Empire City: The Untold Origin Story of the NYPD - Introducing: Law & Crime’s LUIGI

Episode Date: March 19, 2025

When Luigi Mangione allegedly gunned down UnitedHealthcare’s CEO, the media called it a senseless crime. But online, a different story emerged—one of rage, reckoning, and a suspected kill...er turned folk hero. More than just a true crime podcast, LUIGI, hosted by Jesse Weber, dares to look beyond the crime and the accused to explore a cultural tipping point in America, asking you to decide - is the status quo enough, or is it time for a cultural reckoning?Listen to Law&Crime’s LUIGI exclusively on Wondery+ and follow the show page to keep up on all the latest developments. You can join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts. Visit www.wondery.com/links/luigi and start your free trial now!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan. In an instant, one of the most powerful men in the healthcare industry was dead. And the suspect, Luigi Mangione, became one of the most divisive figures in modern criminal history. I'm Jesse Weber, host of Law and Crimes, Luigi, a new podcast that is more than a true crime investigation. We dare to look beyond the crime and the accused and explore a uniquely American moment that could change the country forever. As this case unfolds, we go beyond the crime of the decade headline to explore its
Starting point is 00:00:43 cultural reckoning. This is the story of a growing cultural divide in America. Where mainstream media was quick to condemn the killing, the public reaction, particularly on social media, has been unexpected. In a nation divided by greed, power, and desperation, the killing of a CEO has sparked a long overdue conversation and revealed a nation on the brink. Wherever this case goes, Law & Crime promises to provide you with all angles of the case. With exclusive interviews, courtroom documents, and in-depth coverage,
Starting point is 00:01:15 Law & Crime presents all sides of the case, challenging you to decide, is the status quo enough or is it time for a cultural reckoning? I'm about to play you a clip from the first episode of Law & Crime's Luigi, died. Is the status quo enough or is it time for a cultural reckoning? I'm about to play you a clip from the first episode of Law and Crime's Luigi available exclusively on Wondery Plus on March 24th. A falsified New Jersey driver's license under the name Mark Rosario hinted at an attempt to hide his true identity, the same alias he had used when checking into a New York City hostel before his arrest, a stash of cash totaling $10,000, including $2,000 in foreign currency, as if he had been perhaps preparing for a
Starting point is 00:01:54 swift escape, a box of medical masks, a seemingly mundane detail, yet one that completed the picture of a man on the run and and a US passport that confirmed his real name, Luigi Mangione. As investigators pieced together the evidence, it became clear Mangione wasn't just another anonymous face in a fast food restaurant. He was the prime suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, and the manhunt that had gripped the nation had finally come to an end. And to the authorities, this was definitely the guy they say shot Brian Thompson.
Starting point is 00:02:35 They have him captured on film shooting another human being. Gobs of physical evidence that connect him to the actual crime. We have a weapon, we have ammunition, we have fingerprints, fingerprints on the weapon, we have fingerprints on a water bottle. The NYPD, working in lockstep with the FBI and the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, immediately dispatched detectives to Altoona. And so consequence becomes the biggest issue now for him. And for the American people, the unmasking of Luigi Mangione
Starting point is 00:03:08 slowly began to expose another massive issue. On platforms like X, TikTok and Reddit, initial reactions were a mix of shock, outrage and conspiracy theories. Many were horrified by the apparent cold-blooded murder of a corporate executive in broad daylight while others speculated about Mangione's alleged motives digging through his digital footprint in search of clues. As more details about Mangione's background surfaced including his criticisms of corporate greed and the healthcare industry, a segment of the internet began
Starting point is 00:03:44 to lionize him. Following his arrest in Altoona, Luigi Mangione found himself facing a series of serious charges in Blair County. The fact that he was caught with a weapon, with ammunition, that local jurisdiction is now going to want to file charges. Prosecutors wasted no time charging him with multiple offenses the day of his arrest, including carrying a firearm without a license, forgery, false identification to law enforcement and possession of instruments of crime. Luigi Mangione's first appearance in Blair County court on December 10th, 2024 was anything but quiet. As he was led into the courthouse in Hollidaysburg wearing shackles and an orange jumpsuit, cameras
Starting point is 00:04:31 flashed while reporters shouted questions, but it was Mangione's own voice that cut through the noise. and the insult to the intelligence of the American people and the black experience. He barked at the press, his frustration unmistakable. He carried himself with an air of defiance, but once inside the courtroom, his demeanor shifted. Seated before the judge, Mangione answered in short clipped responses. His defense attorney, Thomas M. Dickey, leaned in often, the two whispering in hushed tones. Behind him, a row of NYPD officers sat like a wall of silent enforcers, their presence a reminder that New York was waiting. You can listen to the full episode and more when Law and Crime's
Starting point is 00:05:21 Luigi releases exclusively on Wondery Plus starting March 24th. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts, and follow the show page for weekly update episodes on the Luigi Mangione case as it unfolds in real time. Wherever this case goes, Law wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes early and ad-free right now by joining Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondry.com slash survey. If you have a tip about a story you think we should investigate, please write to us
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