Empty Netters Podcast - 10. The McAview Featuring: Charlie McAvoy

Episode Date: January 6, 2023

(03:42) McAvoy Interview (07:14) Winter Classic experience (18:58) Meeting Boston legends (27:07) World Juniors best memory ever (35:02) McAvoy has the grippiest stick in the league (40:43) Making number 73 cool (45:14) Getting engaged in Italy (50:46) The Wolf and the McAvoy family (56:23) Pass Shoot Score (1:27:36) A Bruins Player Messages Producer Emily (1:29:50) Quack Attack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're all gone for Christmas and then the new year. But we are so happy to be back with you guys. and we're so happy to be joined on the podcast today by Charlie McVoy of the Boston Bruins, absolute stud defense, one of the best players in the league. We went to the Winter Classic. We did, and we missed you guys. On Monday. Thanks so much for letting everyone get their rest.

We had a good time, and we went to the Winter Classic, like Dan said. And wow, Dan, what an environment. On absolutely unbelievable environment, Winter Classic at Fenway Park down in Boston. That's why we got Charlie on the episode today. It was as cool of an experience as you would imagine, going to the, Cathedral of Boston, the greatest ballpark in America. Put the rink out there. We had an unbelievable tilt between the bees and the penguins.

Two one win, two tucks in the third period from Jake Debrusk. I want to give some stick taps to Jake Debrusk, by the way. Just, you know, guy fractures his leg in the second period, stays in the game, scores two goals in the third to give the bees a win on their home winter classic ice. That is hockey guy stuff. Hockey guy. I was just going to say. That is just as hockey guy as it gets.

So the Winter Classic, huge shout out to the Boston Bruins, huge shout out to Fenway Park for putting on an unbelievable show, and shout out to the Pittsburgh Penguins for an unreal game. Beautiful stuff, and we're just so pumped that it led us to this amazing interview with Charlie McAvoy. Yeah, I would say, Dan, it was just such a cool, stepping out onto up the ramp or whatever and seeing it for the first time, truly gasped. Like, that was the coolest part.

Like, literally just seeing the whole production the first time was incredible. Yeah, it's unreal. And the people of Boston showed up. Oh my God, the city was popping. Just in a big, big way. So let's not tease the balls anymore for you guys, and let's just get right into this Charlie McAview interview. Did I just say Charlie McAvoy interview?

Yeah, you did. That Charlie McAvoy interview. Here we go. We were outside doing a classic, right, like doing like Man on the Street interviews. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, quick interview, you know, like hottest brewing, like a lot of that shit. Yeah, you got a few of those.

Yeah, you did? Oh, yeah. Fucking, right. Not bad. One girl goes, she goes, Who's the young hot defenseman? And we were like, Charlie, and she was like, yes. I was like, let's go.

She said some not safe for work stuff before being honest. I'll send you the video. It's really nice. But we're like, we're like, get you guys getting to be people. And we're like, hey, can you guys clap? Like, I just need you to clap before we go. So we get these like four Boston girls who are just like, you know, like bleach blonde. Yeah.

And I'm like, hey, what time you guys want to be on this Friday beers? And they're like, yeah. And we're like, okay, can you clap? And they go like this. They literally start going like this. I was like, oh, no, sorry. We're like, no, no, I need one of you to clap. And then all four of them were like, and I was like, you, this girl right here, clap.

That's so funny. So great. All right. Well, we are thrilled to welcome to the Empty Netters podcast, a absolute stud for the Boston Bruins, 14th overall pick, top five Norris trophy finalist last season, NHL All-Star, and just all-around stud. Charlie McFoy. Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Thanks for having, you folks.

It's unbelievable. I'm excited. Dude, are you bummed that you guys come from? every year and it's pouring rain. I am. I'm a little choked about it, honestly. We had the same thing happen last year, too. We come out here and it's like,

you look at this one, you circle this early on. As soon as you get the schedule and you're like, okay, like middle of January or early January, it's going to be freezing in Boston. We're going to come out here, get some good weather, like sit by the pool, all that. No, rainy. Rainy every day we're here.

I was going to say, I've got bad news. It's rainy the whole time. It's raining everywhere, yeah. So we were just at the Winter Classic, which, by the way, congrats on the huge win and we had that same feeling leaving boston i was like i can't wait to get out of this cold and get back home and then it's just my flight was turbulence like you read about and just dumping rain when we got here i was like god damn it how was your guy's flight by the way did

you get rocked with turbulence or anything no we were fine really on the way here yeah oh ours was awful totally smooth crazy yeah pouring rain everywhere it's brutal we we was fine we had some bad whether the game right before Christmas break, the 22nd we were flying that night to... Devil's game? Devils game. Terrible. Like, frozen and windy, as can be. We came all the way down, so we got the windows open. Like, we're rocking back and forth the whole time.

We're all, like, buckled up. Like, nobody ever buckles up on the plane. We're all, like, strapped in. And we came all the way down, so we got the windows up. We're like, can't you see the runway? We maybe got like 50 feet away. We're rocking all over. And the guy just went right back up.

Took us back up in the air. Oh, shit. Flew around for another like 20 minutes. Damn. Wait for the wind to kind of. Yeah. It was scary. It was probably a scariest flight we've had.

I've never been on a flight that went back up. Oh, we went right back up. I was about saying, oh, this isn't good. You've probably dealt with this being where you're from. I've been on one of those little puddle jumpers that flew to Nantucket. And I'm flying with a friend who she gets. her pilot's license and she's like, it's great, we're going to fly out of Boston, we'll go to Nantucket, and I'm flying us. And you never want to be like, no, I'm not getting in a plane

because she doesn't want to die either. No, of course. But we get in this plane and when we landed, we just, we bounced and took right back off. And I was like, Lauren, I, never again. You cannot be like, yeah, we're all flying in Nantucket and then you pull that shit. Absolutely, absolutely. Obviously, buying tickets for the way home. Leave the plane here. Seriously. Seriously. So let's talk about the Winter Classic. That was, I mean, not your first time skating on Fenway. But, so, yeah, you beat the Penguins in on Monday, 2-1, great. But 2017, when you were tearing it up for the BU Terriers, you were there, beat UMass 5-3.

Yeah. So I got to know which one was more exciting, which one was more fun. So obviously this one was the winner classic, but, like, that's your first time ever seeing the ice of Fenway. You guys were like five in the country that year, absolutely buzzing. Is it hard to beat that first time, or was the winter classic so over the top? Just to, like, totally. different, different groups, right? Like, one was college, and this is

weird classic. Like, this is actually kind of funny. So we won gold in Montreal, World Juniors, like 48 hours before that game. So we were still on our bender after that. We went out that night. We took a bus back from Montreal

to Boston. We drove back, and we kept it going the whole way. And then the next day we played at Fenway, we went. but I remember that. It was like hurting a little bit going into that game. It was the noon game. I think Providence played Boston College. That was like the big one.

And they played at like 7 p.m. So that was like a lot of fans on NASA. I remember we were already back in the door and watching that one. We were the noon game. Not many people there. Freezing cold like sunny. So you had the glare like the high noon air. Yeah.

Coming straight from Montreal. But we still in your system. Yes, exactly. But we did win and it was and it was a lot. lot of fun. This was, this was night and day. Like, this was the coolest. Yeah. Coolest game. Yeah, that I've ever played in, like, by far. Do you think, fans were unbelievable, like, just, I don't know, just everything about it was sick. Like, did a good job with the outfits, all that. Yeah, yeah. Weather was perfect. You weren't too high. You weren't too cold. The ice was good.

Everything about it was just like, it was just really well done. And then to win, come back and win, like in that fashion was, yeah, it was just a ball on time. Um, pump the, Nice was good because that was a huge worry when it was going to be warm. I pumped the rain held off. I feel like it rained completely surrounding the game, but you got a perfect day. That was amazing. The best part about that was it hung on the day before, too, because they were going to cancel the family skate and the outdoor practice, so we didn't have that.

I was hurt when we were in Notre Dame for the Winter Classic. Whatever, four years ago, five years ago. So they canceled the outdoor practice. Everybody practiced at Compton, which is Notre Dame hockey's rink. and then the family skate was there. Like sick. Yeah, exactly. It's like a public skate.

It's just like a public skate. Exactly. And they're all there and they had fun. I still had a picture with my family and everything. But like this was the full, this was the, excuse me, the experience that like everybody thinks of when you,

when you think of the Winter Classic. When you're like a kid and they used to do the, the HBO like 24-7. Yeah, it's the Winter Classic. Yes. You see all that, like everything about it. like this was this was everything you had the family ski you had the outdoor practice you had all of it like in the red sox locker room everything about it it was just it was perfect and there i know you guys

don't get to see this but the environment outside like at the bars around the game yeah for hours like we showed up at like nine a m yeah his lines down the street to get into you know game on casking flag and all those spots right there i was like oh my god dude yeah a couple of those spots used to frequent back yeah yeah exactly we we drove right past jillians we used to go there all the time the bowling alley yeah yeah it's like it's like a dave and busters in there yeah that's it that spot not not saying anything bad about tahoe but this obviously blew taho out of the water blue taho way Tahoe is great don't get me wrong and like it was like the scene the scene there was amazing the backdrop being so cool lake tahoe and everything like that was great um no family

was tough no fans was like it was just like that's right yeah there's nobody yeah there's It was nothing there. They just dropped that in the middle of that golf course there in Lake Tahoe and we played. Yeah. And then, yeah, so it was really hard to kind of compare the two because, like, I don't know, everything about COVID made that weird. Like, didn't even really explore Tahoe at all because it was COVID. So, like, you're just in the hotel and I don't know.

It was just different. Yeah. This fall, yeah. It felt like, so from our perspective, like the fans perspective, the stuff on social media, you see the buzz around Boston leading up to this game was out of control. And you just said it kind of felt like that road to the Winter Classic literally living it. Yeah. You guys obviously between Christmas and this game played Buffalo.

Did that game feel like a blip on the radar for you guys? Because there was so much buildup and planning going towards the Winter Classic or wasn't like? No, because like they've been good this year. Like you can't overlook a team like that. Yeah, for sure. And I mean, you don't overlook any team. You can lose on any given night. So no.

You're not looking past that game. We knew what we were playing for because at home we were like we wanted to get out of the calendar year without losing or in regulation. And that game we should have won that game. I mean, we had it. I tied it up late and then overtime. Real quick, I was literally scared to text you because we were setting this up and I'm like watching the game and you guys come back. And I was like, God, Charlie's going to be so fired up. I can't wait to hit him up after this game.

And it was like bang, tie. I think he lost and I was like, let's hit him up later. I know, I know. I'll catch you later. Yeah, I was like, we'll talk to you after this.

So we knew we were playing for. We had like some good incentive like, hey, let's make it to 23 without losing in regulation. Yeah. That was pretty cool. So I mean, whatever,

we lost, we did. But more so in that game, you're thinking like, okay, just get through and don't get hurt. Because you're like, you know,

you know that the winner classic is next. You're like, please, like nothing stupid, nothing, like, just make it through that game. And then when you do, you know you made it. You know you're healthy. Yeah, I mean, I was freaking out.

You might have not even clocked this, but I was freaking out those couple days before. There was some tweet from, you know, I think it was like Fluto or something, that Olmark tweaked something in left practice. Yeah, yeah. God damn it. I know.

And I was thinking for him how miserable that must have been, but then like five minutes later he was back on the ice. And I was like, all right, we're good. It was brutal. because last, the one at Notre Dame, when I didn't get to play, like that was so brutal, because it wasn't,

I didn't have any broken bones or anything. What happened? I actually took a Jeff Petrie shot right off the heel. I'm like boxing someone out in front, and this thing just hits me right in the heel. It exploded my foot. It was crazy. So.

Like the skin? Yeah. So I needed like five stitches. Yeah. After the game, I take my sock off. I got Kurt Schilling sock. so I'm all bloody and I'm like what the hell happened?

Like broke the skin There is no skin on the heel So when you're trying to like stitch it up Like you can't like put it back together So it was really weird And then like I played with it All the way up to Christmas So that was like what December 15th

So I played like five more games It was like light a cane Before every game Every time I was put on the skate Practice end game like just to get it into a ski Because it hurts so bad and it ended up getting infected. So I went home back to the law.

Yes. Yes. So I don't even know. It sucked. I should have been taken probably like antibiotics like preemptive ones while while if I knew I was going to play through it. Went home for Christmas. I'm in New York now. Wake up Christmas Day.

This thing looks terrible. I sent a picture of the doc. He's like, you got to get back to Boston. Oh shit. I end up like open presents with the family. I didn't stay for dinner. I like turn right around got a play and left Christmas Day

so that sucked and then I know I'm like okay well I've been playing with it I know I can play with it so is Doc gonna clear me and it ended up being like it's not worth like losing your foot

it's not worth losing it that bad I don't know this thing it was it was infected yeah and it was and they were worried so it was kind of on the fringe of like did I have to stay did I have to go to the hospital to do like the IV antibiotics? Yeah, yeah. Or could I just do oral antibiotics and like just walk around in the boot and

do all that? So had the boot on and everything and I'm like, now we're going to win a classics. I missed the game the 27th, the 29th. We're going there, play on the first. And I'm like, Doc, every day I'm like, look at it. Is it look better? It look better? Like, it looked better, look good enough. And then, you know, we're out there and it was kind of like a split second. Like, can I, can I do it? Can I go? And he wouldn't clear me. He wouldn't clear me. He wouldn't clear me. getting on more. Yeah, you got a fucking trench foot. Charlie blocks a shot and gets gangrene in his foot and it's all over.

So that was even harder though because like if you got a broken foot or whatever, like you can't play. Like you're medically ruled out. So I'm like, Doc, this is kind of wishy-washy though. Like just let me play. Like I know I can play. But it was always, you know, aired on the side of caution. Yeah. So I got my winter class again.

I was going to say that. Undefeated at Fenway in your life pretty sick. I was laughing with Dan. And actually, it's nice to play to go to Fenway this year. And you got Linus Olmark and Net, who's been unconscious all year. And then I was looking up your VU team. And I was like, oh, yeah, you just had some trash freshman Jake Ottinger and awful at the position.

I was like, wow, you had some pretty good backstops at Fenway, but. You were so loaded. We were loaded. That BU team was stacked. Yeah. We had Otter and that. And then me and Fabs on the back end, Chad Chris, who's still playing pro, a lot of guys. Greenway is on that team. Everyone's playing pro. Greener was on that team.

Keller was on that team. Like, yeah, we were pretty good. You guys were a wagon. They were good. I was talking about this on our live when we were at the game, and I had been noticing it just like through photos and stuff. And I'm going to be devastated if truly there was nothing going on. Obviously, both teams, great setups, jerseys, you guys walking into the Red Sox jerseys, all that stuff's amazing. What the fuck was going on with Marshie's gloves?

They were different. He's... Am I... I'm not crazy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he spray painted them. I... Okay, I knew it. There's spray-painted gold,

uh... Like, the shittiest arts and crafts jobs you've ever seen. Yeah, they're spray-painted gold. He's, he's like... He's a freak about, uh, the gear. He loves his gloves, so like, his gloves are beat to shit. Yeah.

And he got the new pair, Warrior sent him a pair of new ones, and he was like, there's not a chance I'm using these. Yeah. Yeah, so he used his... He had a, you know, he's got a pair of a couple pairs of black ones that rotates. He just straight painted one. And they don't care.

They're like, go ahead, do whatever you want? I don't like, I don't know. I'm like, are we going to get fined for that? Exactly. Like, does the league fine for shit like that? I don't even know. It looked, I mean. Because you could tell, eh?

You could tell? Yeah. And what's funny is I'm glad I'm happy to hear that his gloves are beat to shit because it looks like his gloves are always falling off his hands all the time during the game. Yeah. And then looking at pictures, I was like, this dude's gloves are different than the of the team. And what's funny is he didn't even get the right color. I mean, I'm sure he just went out and got gold spray paint and was like, I'm going to do my best here. Whatever spray paint we had

lying around the rink was what went on. Yeah, was what went on there. Yeah. I mean, I imagine Marci's out there on the ice face washing someone. They're getting high from spray paint fumes. He just got spray paint all over his mitts. It's unbelievable. Looking at that game, you know, when we're there and they're doing all the pre stuff and you've got all these Boston Sports Legends there. You know, it's like they got Veritec there and then I think Kike was there before, right? You guys were missing around with him. Yeah. And then obviously, Chiefs there, Bobby Orr, and then Big Z.

Must have been nice to see Big Z again. And then what I need to know, you come into the league and you're immediately playing with Chara, who's like one of the greatest defensemen in history of the NHL, one of the greatest leaders of all time. What was it like becoming so close to him both as a teammate and then also a

D partner with this dude who is twice your age? And then also, let's be real, Z's got to be a bit of a lunatic in terms of his preparation. the way he takes care of his body and all that stuff. Like what was your relationship and is your relationship like with Chara? Well, first, I haven't, those legends were pretty cool, hey? So it was, yeah, yeah, Chief Bobby and Z.

And then I think that was Veritech. Yeah, Wakefield, right? And Wakefield was there, dude. And Wake was out there. Yes. So that was sick. They had Bobby shoot one to Verite. They had Bobby shoot one of Verite.

I wanted Wake to throw a knuckleball to Omar. And be like, try to catch this. Bobby skipped the two hopper. I know. I was actually, at least tech scooped it. I was impressed with tech. Like, he scooped a puck. Yeah, that was really well done.

Then, then right after that, or right after the anthem, they had the fly over. I wish I knew that was coming. I should have known that I was coming. They would do that. Because they come,

they come so fast that by the time I like, you hear that, you hear them coming. Like, you look up and like they're already gone. They're gone. Because they come right over. But that was sick. Yeah.

so that was that was cool that was cool it was really well done that they did that and then and then with z man it was just unbelievable like i remember coming in the first day and i met him and i called him mr charra and he's like oh call me z like you know whatever yeah and our relationship just evolved from there and get to be deep partners with them for you know it's like four years um learned so much uh really got i just i got way better i got way better a defenseman learning from him and, you know, being held accountable by him, so many things. And, you know, on the ice, off the ice, he does take care of himself, like, insane. Works out every day.

I know he was vegan for a while. I don't know if he still is, but everything that he puts into his body, like, it's only if it's going to make him better. Yeah. And everything he does is, like, it's 110. percent and it was pretty like apparent like once you get uh you know spent some time around him that you you like understand you're like okay now i get it how this guy is still playing because he's a machine and what he does like he the way he takes care of himself the way he he recovers everything he does is is in the mindset of like how am i going to get better yeah um

which is something you just have to admire it really and and then as a person, just a human being, like, what an unbelievable guy. Like, he's just such a gentleman and, and, and, just like, a larger than life figure. Literally. Yeah. In every way. Yeah, in every single way. Did he ever tear into you?

Like, do you ever make a bad play when you were young and he just let you have it on the bench? No, man. He's unbelievable. There'd be times when, like, you know, he, like, maybe, like, yell. Like, he would just, like, I don't know. He never snapped on me ever, ever. It's like such a struggle to think of him doing anything negative. Yes, exactly.

Like, so like there's times, you know, yell my name to get my attention, you know, during a play or something like that. Like, but never. And I made a ton of mistakes. And honestly, that like really does a good job of explaining, like, just who he is and, you know, his leadership ability is everything. He was able to get across to me, you know, without. out of having to do that.

And I also was very attentive to everything he said. As soon as he opened his mouth, you just listen. And you respect and the utmost respect for him and everything, you know, because he's earned that. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, he never snapped on me, man.

He was fucking always... Just a true gentle giant. Yeah, I love it. Literally. A gentle giant. And that leads into, I mean, you go from Z to now Berg, who is, I mean, by all accounts, truly the greatest human being who's ever lived. Yeah.

And is it interesting? I mean, it's obviously such a blessing to have two guys like that that you've learned from that you've gotten to play with. But now also at 25, being a leader of the team now, like you're wearing the A in many, many games. Is it weird following in the footsteps of two of arguably the greatest captains in the history of the NHL? Like, what's, how's it feel with that?

I don't know. Like, it's so crazy to think that I've got to play with both of them continue to put a Berge. Like, they are two of the best human beings that I've ever met. Like, just the way that they treat people and, like, take hockey out of the equation because they're Hall of Fame hockey players. Yeah. But just as people.

Like, they are unbelievable people, the way they treat people, the way they care for their teammates, each other. Like, I don't know, man. I just feel really blessed, like, to get to play with those guys. Honestly, like, it's not something that I take for granted. and I would say it about Z, it's not something that I ever took, you know, lightly and,

or, you know, would stop and realize, like, just how lucky I was to get to have him as a partner. Yeah. And then now it's Bergey, and Bergey's picked up, you know, where Z left off and, and really just, like,

I can't think of someone, the two of them, people who embody what it means to be a leader and a captain of a team, like, perfect. Like, just look at them. That's what I'm saying.

Like, they're exactly what I think it means to be a captain everything that they do and how they carry them. Yeah. It's funny just as fans of the game looking at the Bruins organization when Z was retiring,

and it's like, well, this has got to be the easiest handoff. Yeah. There's no like, oh, shit, who's the captain now? It's like, oh, you have another true ridiculous. Oh, you have a guy who also, like, could have been wearing the sea.

Like, they were always co-captains. Yeah. You know, only one of them could wear the C though. But, but Berge was, uh, Berge was always like a very vocal leader where, where Z, um, when he would talk, it was,

it was kind of like few and far between. So it made his words so much more meaningful, like when he would stand up and talk. Um, but Bergey is a different kind of leader. Like the way he brings it is, is he's consistent. He brings it every day the same way. you know, definitely more vocal than Z was,

two different leadership styles, but, like, he was always doing that all along. And he's always been a leader since forever. I think that dude was born a leader. Yes, exactly. I imagine he was leading group projects in preschool. And on that 2011 team, it was when he kind of stepped in.

Like, I heard stories when he kind of stepped into that role there, like to really kind of lead that team from a vocal standpoint, like from a, you know, captain standpoint. And at that point, I think he just had nay. Yeah, yeah. If he even had an A. So he's always been doing that.

And, like, that's something that kind of, you know, every team has guys like that. He don't even wear letters who are really instrumental. For sure. I'm actually surprised that Berg is so vocal, you know? Like, when I think of Berg, I picture him, like, the really quiet. Yeah, yeah. When he talks, listen.

Yeah. But Berg never speaks to the point that I wonder if Char is so quiet that it made Berg talk more like, he's like, dude, you are fine. You're not going to say something. Yeah. Say something. That's amazing. Okay, I want to talk world juniors.

2016, you're on the squad. Great run, beat by Russia, redemption against Sweden, bronze medal game, take that home. 2017, you come back. And in Canada, right, you guys win your group, beat Canada, 3-1, win your group, beat the Swiss, epic shootout against Russia, playing Canada in the final, beat them in a shootout. And you had URNA in that tournament, too, six points in seven games, goal and assist in the final, monster goal, too, by the way. You guys are down to nothing. Yeah. That was a big one.

Tie it up. Go down four to, tie it again. I know. Shoot out, Troy Terry on his shootout bullshit after his T.J. O'Shee Rush impression.

Incredible. I would, we're having so much fun watching that tournament, as does everybody, watching Vodard be a true psychopath out there. I think the Czech just beat Sweden right now. You were watching after practice. USA Canada is like on now.

I was going to say. Truly the Bruins are the Czech representative in the end of the Yeah, seriously. Yeah. So an absolute tilt right now in the other semi-final game. And so we would just love to hear what's that tournament like? What were your two experiences there?

And tell us everything about that. Because it seems like the coolest thing that's ever happened. Yeah, I want to know if it is. Man, it's so freaking cool. Like when you grow up as a kid, like I remember, and it was actually kind of funny because speaking of the Winter Classic, like as a family, the New Year's Eve game was always USA Canada. They would always make the exception. And I know now sometimes they don't, like they weren't in the same.

same group this year. But it used to never be like that. It was always USA Canada, no matter what people finished in the year before, like it was always USA Canada in that New Year's game. So we would like make a big thing, you know, around it and growing up like those guys were my absolute idols watching the world juniors and for team USA and it was, it was so freaking cool and so surreal to make it to that. And then to get to play in both of them too. So it kind of had that first year as a freshman at BU and then the second year two two different experiences one was in Finland so we were in Helsinki the first year loaded team yeah oh my god team uh you could honestly argue that that team was better like than the year after when we won the whole thing

because we had a lot of talent on that team that first year uh we didn't get it done we ran into russia and they were they had a really good goalie um i think it might have been uh maybe it was either Samsonov or Georgia I don't even remember but they were good That was a devastating lot Like you were all Devastating

We went up 1-0 too I know So we went up 1-0 early And You know You start feeling all those emotions Of you know Just the hockey game

You're like alright we're up 1-0 Like I don't know We're buzzing We're going to the gold medal game Like like you know And just the ebbs and flows Like they end up And then you know

Scoring and scoring they lose that one. Second year, second year was cool because that was like our group. Because when you play in Ann Arbor, that 97 age group, so we had pretty much like that entire team back for the world juniors. Like it felt like a big family reunion. We had maybe like 13, 14 of the, 20 guys from Ann Arbor on that team, that 97 birth year.

And then he filled it in with the other best guys around college and everybody else in junior. And we were really good. But from our perspective, it felt like another kick at the can for you guys. Exactly. I was going to ask how to get it done. Yes, exactly. And that group's different because the familiarity that we had from that 97 team and how close we were. like we didn't skip a beat so now we're all back together everybody's two years more mature

you know everybody's got college experience now and and everybody's two years better at hockey so we bring that team back together and like that like love family thing that we had from from there just translated immediately and it was like boys like what's what's do this god i have it fellas and we went wire to wire we freaking we won every game in that tournament it'd be and a twice really hard to do in in any tournament, be the team twice. Beat Russia. That shootout was...

How stressful was that, dude? That tournament took years off my life. I can only imagine, dude. Two shootouts, but like five whole Terry, like, are you kidding me? I was still, like, we'll watch that thing. Every time World Juniors comes back, it's this time of year, like, someone will post it and bring it back and like, it'll never die,

and I hope it doesn't. Because that was one of the coolest things that I've ever been a part of. Like, we had to have it, I think, on like, two of those goals. Then the Russia shootout. Yes, correct. To keep it going, I think. Like, the fucking pressure, are you kidding me?

There were two do or die shots on that. Two do or dies, I think. If I were Troy, I would watch that YouTube video before every game. Before every game. I would just be like this. I'm the fucking man. I know. I'll never not be this incredible.

I watch it every single day. Oh, my God. And, like, I just remember, like, the, the, feeling both of those coming off the bench when he won it and everybody's diving into each other and that was just to go to the gold medal game but like the feeling was insane and then to win it that game was insane in itself two nothing come back tied up in the second out's two two and then you know there's 10 minutes left in that game and all of a sudden they score again it's four to two and it's like okay we're not going to be able to do it again right no we score it a

Pretty quick, dude. Passed with Bellows. Came down the wall, got it, passed it to Bellows, through the crease, back in over to him, and he scored 30 seconds later. It's like, this shit's not done.

Yeah. Tied it up. I think they honestly probably had the better looks in overtime, if I remember, 20 minutes, five on five,

and no one was able to score. They had a power play in overtime, I remember. Which was speaking about years off your life, man. That 20 minutes is like, are you shitting me? Like how no one scores, how you get through that.

We had a couple chances, actually, like, a couple of the, in the crease, I think. But they did two. And nobody scored. And then, yeah, and then you just knew. We had Troy Terry. I was going to try to her. I feel pretty confident about it. You go into the shootout in that gold medal game after what had just happened.

Like, you know on their bench, they're like, motherfucker. Their fucking guy, too. He had it, man. He had it. He made a good move on Parsons. and like, I think it was uh, wah on,

uh, Vegas. I think he's on Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. He leg kicked and went forehand, backhand, and he had parsed dead to rights and he just,

and he lost it, lost the puck. And we won. And, oh my God. I, I, javelined my stick.

We're all trying to get off the bench as fast as we can. And I'm like, every time I was trying to lift my leg up, someone was jumping and I, Like couldn't get off the bench. Just pure freaking elation, man. That was for sure the coolest thing. My favorite hockey memory, for sure.

Oh, really? Wow, that's a great stat. Are we as Winter Classic in top three now? For sure, top three. I mean, the finals would have been number one if we'd want it, if we win that game seven. But, yeah, it's got to be the memories where you win. So World Junior.

Yeah, you'll take it. You'll take it. Dude, speaking of your stick. So we're talking about Marshie, that mutant spray painting his gloves. I can't. I'm never going to forget about that. So when we were talking to Dutchie, he's talking about how much he changes his stick. You don't do a damn thing to your stick.

Is that correct? Like you are same curve, same flex. Yeah, I'm using. Grip all over it. I'm just fucking P92. Sackick. Clean Sack. First it's the Sackick.

Then it's, uh, well, no, at first it was the Eizerman. Then it was the Sackerman. Then it was the Sack. And then it was the hall, the Taylor Hall. Yeah, yeah. It was now my teammate. Yeah. And yeah, I'm just the generic stick.

I've always used that sack of curve. And then my flex has changed. So I was like, you know, 85, I think in USHL. And then I went up to like 100. And then now I'm back down. I use 95. Okay. Grip, the whole way down as grippy as you can make it.

I use like, they have like a special grip Bauer makes. Are there regulations on that? Like, does the league allow you or can you... No, you can do whatever you want. Yeah, for your stick. I think it's just... Are there curve rules? I think, like, you maybe you can have too much of a book?

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, right? They used to, like, check people stick. Yeah. I don't know. That old Paul coffee. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

No, they have like this one. It's like there's all these grips and then they have this one just all the way over here. That's literally the grippiest thing. Is it like just for you or is it like anyone could... I don't know. I'm sure there's probably more people. Do you go all up and down?

The whole shop? It's all the way. grip the whole way. I've been using the same knob for for years, yeah. I don't really change many things up. Hold on. You're going grip all the way down to the blade

pretty much. Yeah, I think they cut off like maybe I don't know. How much of that is superstition? Because there's no way you're really using that low on the stick. No, no, no, no, no. But I don't know. It's just preference, I guess. Yeah, I mean, listen, I get it. We've all got it.

Well, like, because Bauer actually sent me these sticks. So they went like, they went all the way. Well, usually goes all the way. So, yeah, pretty much to the blade. Yeah. I have grip. These ones came like, probably like a foot off the blade was where the grip stopped. Yeah.

So no. When are you ever going to have your stick like that? Like maybe you're a face off guy. Yeah. But then I was like, I'm lining up for face offs. And like I got, you know, two hands on it and whatever. I just, I hated the feeling. of not having the grip even when I was down there,

even though you don't play like that. So I, I like sent them back and got new ones with all, with the grip all over down. You're like, put the shit all the way down. All the way. Just fucking grip the shit out of it. Because I hated the feeling of the grip. Like when I was playing,

it was like I wanted to be so smooth. Like no synergy. Oh, no grip. Like were you walking like the yellow synergy? I was going to say I was early on that yellow synergy game. Yeah, the yellow synergy. Good stick. I love the, the silver one that was blue.

at the bottom. Oh yeah. The stealth. That was my favorite. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the Synergy S.L.

I think honestly the best hockey stick ever made is the S-17. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That thing is a weapon. Yeah. Absolutely weapon. I only used Eason as a kid. Same.

100%. And then I don't even, a couple guys were hanging on using them like who would Kessel maybe. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I know La Tang was using them for. a while and like they had been dead and now I don't think anybody uses them anymore.

Yeah, I was gonna say that. It was a travesty by the way. Yeah, they were first to the game. I mean, they were nothing even touched synergies for so long. It was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. And yeah, it's sad to see them. Some gone now. It's brutal, brutal stuff. Okay, super grippy, yeah. Yeah, my last question on the sticker, you

white or black tape guy? Black. Let's go. I can't. Dude, I've tried, like using white. Bums me out. So I've tried using white. There are times I, like, use it in practice or something. something and I feel like I had a foreign object in my hand. I couldn't. Just don't like the look.

I agree. Don't like the look, the feel. I don't know. I'm very like particular, I guess about both of black up top of you. I'm realizing now that I'm particular about some of this shit. I mean,

I feel like we all, I mean, I would imagine. You like what you like. You gotta like what you like. If you fuck up the routine. There are a lot of guys that do change stuff. Like they'll change flex during the year.

Like they'll change, uh, you know, patterns and stuff like that. they'll go black tape white tape like i can't do any of that like i'm so small-minded and like i like i like i just don't change anything about it and that's kind of i don't think that small-minded meaning i think in a world full of variables we need a few constants yeah just like just like give me one stick please that just is the same way what do you have a like a pre-wrap

knob or do you tape your knob no i try that tell me about your knob charlie it's basically well okay i'll hear all about it i tried that the uh the one that like you slide right on Yep. Yeah, yeah. Like buttons, I think they're going. Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, so I, whatever, I use them for a little just because I thought they were easy. Didn't feel like as good as when you just do it yourself.

So, yeah. I go take a roll of white tape and I do this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I got like the, you know, the really, like, thin. I don't even know how to explain it. And then I'll do a couple laps around the top of the knob.

with that and then I keep it going down just as far as my hand can go yeah so nothing nothing crazy and then I always use the like the sticky yellow sticky tape on the top oh yeah oh fuck it it's the rippiest stick in the league yeah so even more good the howie's tape yeah yeah that's yeah it's the best I love that incredible okay another thing we talked about with duchy is number and I have a number question for you so you are seven at BU yeah um Is that your favorite number? Why seven? Did you wear that growing up too? No, 25 was my favorite number.

Oh, okay. You wore that for USA. I wore 25 in Ann Arbor. I wore it every time I could. 25 was always my favorite number. Did you go 7 to BU because it adds to 25 adds to 7? No, I just went 7 because I had a couple to choose from, and I just landed on 7.

College is different. So Brandon Fortunato wore it at BU, so I didn't have a chance. and then... Fucking Carlo. Brandon's are just fucking... Brando... Yeah, the Brando... Yeah, wow, that's crazy.

He beat me by a year. He made it in a year early, a year before me, and he was 25. Don't lie, when you saw him get to the bees and he took 25... Were you pissed? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

You don't know if you're... Offer him some money, dude. Until you make it, like, I'm not like, oh my God, no, no. My mind was never like, hey, he took my number that I'm going to be wearing here one day. It's a good answer. Dude.

No, until you make it, you don't know. Well, one thing, I loved was I'm like, okay, you have seven, you know, because like, I'm watching you in college and everything. I'm like, okay, he's wearing seven at BU. Yeah. Playing World Juniors, you're wearing 25. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's the seven. Then you go to Providence, wear 43. And I'm like, yes, yes, yes, that's a seven. I was like, dude, I was like, dude, I was like, dude, dude, I was like, dude, I was like,

I was like, oh, shit. Like, I was like waiting for you to grab 61. Yeah. It always has that out of the seven. Right. But then I saw that you were like, because obviously, dude, like, 25 numbers are already taken on the big squad. Yeah. Retired numbers when you get called up. have a lot to choose from, right? So I saw you said it was like 58, 78, 76. Yeah, there were some good ones actually.

Like, there were, you know, like, so you got like, I think of like, let's hang with 58, a couple, couple guys wear that. And then like, uh, 76 was there. So like, like, like, Sue BK. Yeah. Yeah. Like a couple like numbers that guys had had worn that were, that were cool. So I knew I, I didn't know I didn't want to do 58.

I knew I wanted to involve a seven because I had grown to love seven. when I was in school. So then it was either like 74, 76, or 73. And I don't know. I just, I thought 73 was cool. It's a sick number. Yeah, I thought it was cool. I don't know.

I just went for it. And I was like, I didn't want to wear 76. I didn't want to wear 58 because I wanted to do my own thing. So I didn't want to be like a repeat of that. Yeah. Didn't really know anybody who ever wore 73. And like it happened to be Michael Ryder. Yeah.

Like the older Bruins. but I wasn't a Bruins fan when I was growing up so I didn't even know. I'm like, I'm funny. I'm just going to Trailblaze 7-3 here and see what happened. I loved it. I'm, and I see kids like youth hockey kids.

How sick is that, dude? How sick is that, dude? So many kids wearing 73. Definitely. Yeah, it's really cool. It's really cool.

I'm a big numbers guy. And when you were picking your number, I was like, the bees were in this weird run of every defenseman was wearing a number in the 40s or the 50s. Yeah. And I was like, please God,

don't wear 43. Nothing with 43. It was like, Bartowski had 43. And then he bounced and that when you, did they have it when you came up? When you got called up with someone already in 43? I don't know. When I, no, I never played with Bart.

Well, when I went to Prove, they just gave it to me. I didn't pick a number. I didn't pick a number in Prove. They're like, hey, you're on 43. I'm like, okay. Jersey put it on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sounds good.

Wear this. And then in the league, I don't know. So 43 is maybe available. Maybe, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. love that once you got it, then you get the chance to change it, and you were like, no, this is,

this is my thing. Yeah, I was like, I'll stay. I'll stay. Like, I love that. Yeah, I've seen a couple of McAvoy jerseys in the stands and just feel bad. Yeah, yeah. Feel bad. I don't want to change now. I get to get a custom Maccoy 25, I think. Yeah. That'd be pretty cool. What could have been? Yeah, yeah, just in a parallel universe. Just rubbing in Carlos face. Oh, yeah, you and Carlo jersey swap, maybe. I know. There were some numbers after that year, too, like, that opened up, and I had warden 44 in juniors. I love that number, like pronger. So that was there.

25 was taken, but like more stuff came available. Like when you go to training camp the next year, and it's like, you know, they were like, you don't have to wear. Charlie, seriously, you can take seven years off for the love of God. You can pick a different one. Like, you can get your first choice. And I'm like, no, like, things went pretty well.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll leave it, yeah. Dude, so we owe you a congratulations. you get engaged this summer to hire. Stick tap. Long-time college girlfriend.

Beautiful stuff. Did it in Italy. Not a big deal. Not a big flex. Did you know when you plan that Italy trip you were going to do it? Yeah. And were you nervous?

Completely nervous, terrified. Which is a good thing. Yes. Which is a good thing. Don't get comfortable. Yes. No, I knew. So I knew that this summer,

or I guess, last summer was was like I knew I wanted to do it over the summer. I had it planned. I had already gotten the ring like I knew I just needed something cool. Yeah. I had him like trying to figure out like a good place to do it. Something like that. Some local in Boston. And then we get invited to Tuka's wedding, which is in Italy. And I'm like, okay. Like yeah, I have to do it there, have to do it there. So tried to be like super respectful like, you know, steal the shine. You can't do it. No, so we went to Capri first.

And Brad and Katrina Marchand were over there. So us four were in Capri together. They had gotten there a day before. So they did a boat tour. And I'm like, Marsh, I got this ring. Like, I got to do it here before we go to Lake Como. Because I'm not doing it. Once we get to Como, like that was too good.

Yasmin. I'm like, I got to do it here. Tewks like reading his mouth Just one second So I'm like trying to figure out I'm like where am I gonna do it He's like bro we went on the boat yesterday So Marci gets a big assist for this

He's like on the boat yesterday There's this rock It's called forever rock It's like he's supposed to kiss underneath it All this stuff like whatever yeah So Marci's romance side He gets the assist on that one And he set it up and then I am so we went on the boat

Were you at all worried about dropping the ring in the water Yeah That's ripe for losing the ring territory Oh my God Like there were so many like little things. I look back on now like Kylie being like, yeah, I'm not even really bringing anything.

Like we can just share a bag, right? And I'm like, no. I'm like, get your own bag. Like it's just like, why can't we just share a bag? Like all I have is this. And I'm like, just get your own bag. Wear those shorts without the pockets. I like those shorts.

You're like, no, no, no, I really need these. Yeah, these things, man, all those little stuff. And she had the waterworks right away. She said she has no idea. She had no idea. Okay, that was my question. She was surprised. She was surprised and it went perfect, man.

Well done. Beautiful. So the elephant in the room, for those who don't know, Kylie's dad is the coach of the penguins. How often, if ever, does she weaponize that against you? Like you guys have a game against the penguins coming up. You start acting like an asshole and she's like, I'm going to tell my dad that you've got a knee problem going on right now.

Let's have a whole team target. No, no, no. Does that come up ever? I mean, obviously it comes up in certain ways, but how's that like? I mean, you're navigating a life with a fiancé whose dad is a coach of a another NHL team. Yeah,

I know. That's an interesting circumstance. It's pretty crazy. So when we met in college freshman year, so it was Halloween was when we first met. What were you dressed as? Steve the Pirate. I was Steve the Pirate and she was a mermaid. Yeah.

Beautiful. Wow. We'll get to that. Yeah, it was fun. But so he was in Wilkesbury at the time and they ended up firing. I think it was Mike Johnson. Yeah. right around like New Year's or something.

So I go to World Juniors, that was the years in Finland, come back and like, I think it was right when I got back. So it was right around New Year's, I think he got hired. So he now he's the coach of the Penguins, so he's in Wilkesbury, and then he was with Pittsburgh, wins the Stanley Cup that year. Yeah. And then like, you know, ever since he's obviously had unbelievable success there, but they're amazing family, like, you know,

so I've been together seven years, being Kai and like, for sure. Yeah, I've gotten so close with them, and they're incredible. people and it makes for some fun you know hockey roweries but uh but no it's it's nothing but just mutual respect of course yeah i bet the lead up it's tough it's tough for her because like yeah she's like i hope you have a hat trick but the only way for my dad to like have a good game is if they win yeah so if you get three goals but they win like then you know everybody's happy yeah she's always rooting for the penguins to win and you to play well you to play really well damn so

you guys started dating freshman you year, eh? Yeah, freshman year. That's Halloween, do pretty quick, too, by the way. Early in the semester. Yeah. You got to college, went to your first major party and you were like, I'll probably marry this girl. Yeah, dude, I was 17 too. I went in early when I went to college. She was 17, or I was 17, she was

18. Yeah, man, it was we mad at it. It was so, like, everybody gets like their group of friends, so the hers was like a couple girls that lived on the same floor as her. One of the guys on the team started hooking up with one of her friends. So they all met and they're together at this point.

Like I have no idea who she is or any of those girls. And he was like, hey, like there's this girl. I think like she's kind of into you. Like you guys should meet. And so I shot my shot. Yeah. threw it out there. Like I have a gold medal, by the way.

Shot my shot. And we were like, yeah, like, you know, Halloween's next week. Like we're going to this party after the game. It was really cool. We played Denver that night and beat him in overtime at a game. Yeah. And then we went out right after and we ended up, yeah, we ended up meeting at that party. The rest of his history.

Unbelievable. Okay. Now, I want to get into your family a little bit. Your dad, Charlie McAvoy, Sr., nicknamed the wolf, by the way. Unbelievable, Nick. How do you know about the wolf? Dude, just let's not get into that. Let's talk about this.

Why is Chuck Sr. the wolf? The wolf? I'm pretty sure. I think it was Bruce Fox. So Adam Fox's dad who called him the wolf. And I don't know. Like, we were all kids. We played on the same team, the Long Island Goals, when we were growing up, me and Foxy.

And, like, my dad was, he was an animated hockey dad. Yeah. You know, those early years, like, he's good now. He's good now. Yeah. Yeah, he figured it out, but he was definitely an animated. He was still banging on the glass in NHL games. He was an animated hockey dad.

So I think it was just born out of that because he was a yellow. Yeah, he was hallowing at the moon. Yeah, you got to sometimes. Yeah, I love it. So he turned into the world. I love it. I was about to say. It's unreal that you and Foxy knew each other growing up,

but I need a TV show of The Wolf and the Fox. Bruce Fox and your dad just shredding waves. Well, they're amazing people too. The Foxes are a great family. Bruce was funny. Bruce would always sit in the corner by himself and all those games. And whenever Adam would do something bad or like,

you know, we weren't playing well. It was just always two hands. Then he would just throw them. He'd be like, that's garbage. Garbage. You knew. You see him. He was an animated with the hands.

Hands, you always throw them. Oh, shit. There's always hands in the pockets in the corner of them. Okay, so your dad and your uncle have family business, McAvoy plumbing and heating and Long Beach. I think like their grandparents started. Grandfather started in like 1929. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so it's fourth generation now. Yeah. Okay, so, and also he was your coach growing up, your dad. Yeah, and I saw an awesome thing that you were saying, you know, obviously you want to be a forward and go and bar down in front of the ladies and everything, don't we all? But then your dad was like, listen, I don't need the other parents bitching at me. why my kids up on first time. Yeah.

You go to play D. You're playing D. Yeah. You're like, okay. Nobody wants to play D. Right. He was like, whatever. I'm the coach and you don't have a choice.

He put me back there. Worked out pretty nicely. Yeah, you know, we'll take it. I've played a little forward and then D and then I went back to forward and I was like to forward and I was like 12 and then I played forward that whole year. And then someone got hurt and they're like, we need another defenseman. So I went back on D.

Yeah. Played like two shifts on D and I'm like, that's it. I'm never going back to forward. Like this is way more. Yeah. I touched the puck way more back here. I get more ice time. I get more ice time. I got everything.

Like, I just felt like I came back home. Yeah. So we were wondering, you know, just talk about how your dad, your whole family, your mom, three sisters and just Long Beach itself growing up there helped shape you into, you know, the person you are, the player you are, all that, just like that whole childhood scene. Because it seems like, not to interrupt, but it seems like with everything you do with the way you handle yourself with teammates, with the way you handle yourself in your personal relationships. Like you are a family guy. and so are we and it just seems like such a cool and awesome and

an experience you're very grateful for to be able to have such an unreal support system yeah it's tight-knit community and you know small town values I think like you just you know I grew up with you know dad worked incredibly hard my mom was just full-time mom

and just really under the mindset of like you have to work for everything My dad worked his ass off to give us everything and like to give me a chance to play hockey. My sisters played hockey. They played other sports. Like he, so he did everything for us. So I definitely learned a lot through that.

And then the perspective you have once you kind of grow up and mature a little bit. And then you kind of realize like, okay, like, you know, what actually, like how hard he was working and all the sacrifices and stuff like that. And then I think that sort of helped me kind of become who I was going to be as an adult, you know, and their support really. And then everybody from Long Beach, all the people I grew up with, I think, you know, sort of that blue collar work for everything vibe. It definitely defines a lot of who I am for sure. In honor of the family business, McAfoy Plumbing and Heating,

would you describe your game more as plumbing or heating? Think about this now. This is like, yeah. This is hard hitting. The beauty is there's no wrong answer. Yeah, there's no wrong answer. I feel like in my head, like I'm thinking like a plumber as like a grinder. Yeah.

Maybe like a heater as like a skill guy. I don't know if that's completely stupid. I kind of like that. It makes sense why you're such a two-way guy. Right the middle. Like your whole family legacy is built on a two-way player. It's unbelievable. I know.

Well, yeah, so it's fourth generation though. my my my so was my dad's grandfather so i guess my great great my great grandfather yeah would have been the start then grandpa my dad and now my cousins do it and my dad when i was growing up he'd always say like you know because family business like what else am i'm going to do hey i'm going to be a plumber like i'm just going to take i'm going to take it over my dad would always just say you like i want more for you there's more in this world than plumbing. And like, if you keep working hard,

like, I want you to have a life where you don't have to do this. Unbelievable. It's like your sisters can do that. Yeah, exactly. You got plenty of cousins, dude. I'm like, who's going to take it over? And sure enough, my cousins.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, my cousin's, yeah. Yeah, my cousin's, yeah. That's beautiful. Coming up on 100 years at McAvoy plumbing, heeding pretty sick, dude. Pretty wild, eh. I know.

All right, so we play a game on this show that we're going to put you through right now. It's called Passchute Score. Okay, I love it. What we're going to do is going to give you three options and you have to rank them essentially in the ranking of what you like or what you need the most to need the least. So like pass, it's good to dish the puck around, but it's not our favorite.

Shoot, puck's on net is amazing. That's kind of be your middle one. Score is obviously the ultimate goal, so that's the one you like the most. Yeah, okay. So you growing up, you have a lot of players that you emulated, Bobby Orr being one of them because he's obviously the greatest defense move of all time. Now there's a connection with the Bruins. Big Rangers fan growing up.

Brian Leach was a stud when you were young, so a big guy that you kind of emulated your game off of. And then as you get to that next level and you're looking at guys in the league immediately, Drew Dowdy is someone that came up that you were like, this guy has a great game that I play. Yeah, for sure. So if you have to pass shoot score, Douder, Leach, and Bob Yore, what's the ranking? Okay, well.

And you can take this however you want in terms of like the ones you play like the most, the ones that you looked up to the most, or however. Okay. Okay, so I'll go pass first, I guess. So I'll go pass with Doughty. um, outstanding defenseman. Growing up, definitely, I, like, maybe not growing up. So I think it was more like once I'm, you know, 13, 14, 15, like,

you're getting to an age where, you know, you're starting to know, like, you know, what your game looks like, you know, what you wanted to look like, um, you know, what you bring to like a team playing junior hockey at that point. So you're like climbing the ladder. And he was for sure the guy. I'm like, I want to be just like, um, you know, what you bring to, like, a team playing junior hockey at that point. like him or play just like him he was winning norse trophies stanley cups like and he was awesome so he was that guy for me uh you know sort of when i was a little bit older when i was younger so i'll

go score with brian leach he was my hero when i was a kid uh growing up he definitely had everything to do with who i wanted to be as a player i grew up watching that 94 road to the stanley cup uh the year the rangers won yeah so my mom tells it like I would just every single day I would ask her to put it back in the VHS in

every day Rangers every day Rangers I watch Rangers watch this shit every single day and he he won the consmite that year

like so many big plays he was he was absolutely my hero and I'm like I'm gonna be just like him so that was by like playing defense like when I went back on D I'm like it's fine

because I'm going to be Reach. Yeah. Yeah. So it didn't matter because he was my favorite player anyway and he's a defenseman. And funny about that is, so in Long Beach where I grew up, Caitlin Pyle, who is a girl like our families grew up together. We grew up together, went to school together. Her mom's sister, or I think it's her mom's sister, married Brian Leach.

Oh, shit. So who other than Brian Leach who spends like, you know, a few weeks a year in Long Beach? Yeah. And I met him a bunch of times. Wow. And I'm like, I'm growing up. And I'm like, this is insane. Like, this guy is my hero.

And I'd see him all the time. And then now I know him, you know, I knew him then. But then I make it to the NHL. Now I'm in Boston. He lives in Boston. His wife, Mary Beth, great people. And I see him all the time. I'm like, it's just crazy how small, like, small the world is literally.

That's a wild. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he's in Long Beach all the time. I'd see him as a kid. So leach is your score?

So leach is my score and then, or no, sorry, leach is my shoot. Yeah. Okay, dude, I was going to say. I was like, wow. So you're putting Bobby as the number one.

Bobby's number one. So it's so, wow. To make things simple, it's Bobby one, Leach two, Dowdy three. Yeah.

Bobby or is like, I don't even know how to explain this guy. Obviously, best offense would never play this game. So I'm, I'm a client with the order group. so I met him for the first time back in 2015. It was at the draft in Fort Lauderdale.

So I was already like an or group client. At that point you have an advisor. You don't have an agent because whatever rules. Rules. Yes. Legal stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have an advisor, you know, within the OR group.

And I went there and met him for the first time, large in the life, this guy. He is, well, I don't even know how to explain it. So obviously how much of a gentleman, you know, Bergey and Ziar, that is that is Bobby. He is one of the best human beings I've ever met. He, like, the fact that I have a relationship with him is, like, blows my mind. I spoke to him on the phone the other day, something was a winter classic. Like, we talk all the time, called me a bit over the summer.

He'll always drop me, you know, text throughout the season. And sometimes I still pinch myself and I'm like, okay, this is the best defenseman to ever play the game of hockey. one of the best players to ever play hockey in general. And then the thing that sets him apart from everybody is I don't know if I've ever met anybody who is as good a person as Bobby Orr. Get out of town, dude. He is unbelievable. Like they say don't meet your heroes.

Like he puts that to shame. You can meet him? Yes. I was about the fact, can we talk about the fact that two of your personal heroes, you have personal. How crazy. I know. You're just like this.

Oh my God. Brian Leach, Bobby Or, two guys. I would love to have any sort of a career like and just what unbelievable people to live by. Yeah. Oh, I'm friends with them.

And I'm friends with them. You should hang out with Dowdy. He's the man, too, by. Yeah, I've heard good things about him. Dude, Bobby Orr, once he stopped playing, used to get his haircut at the same place as our grandmother, who was, you know, like, 90. Yeah. And he was so nice to her.

And then we'd be, like, going to these games. And if he was there, like, around the city, like, in fours across the street or whatever, we'd see him. And he'd be like, hey, Fran, like, my grandmother. And I was like, dude, what are you doing? Yeah. Like, unbelievable. Like, unbelievable.

Like, larger than life, man. He has time for everyone. And for someone of his stature and like pedigree, right, like who he is to the game of hockey, he carries himself in such a way that it really is mind-blowing. Like how he's able to do that. Because I'm sure distress is, you know, life of being as famous as he is. It could probably cause anybody to, you know, to. Maybe be starky or mean or anything.

Like you're just, you know, you're tired of all that. Never seen him. I've never seen him ever in that light. Like he's just always on and who he. And like that doesn't mean you're on. That just is who you are. Right. If you, if you treat people like that every day, like that's, that's just who you are now.

So Bobby, he's a truly amazing person. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Okay. We know you're a big movie guy. Right. I see your Instagram com.

You know, quote in the town. and Goodwill hunting and everything. Love movies. Love movies. So do we do. And everyone's asking you, like, you know, what actor would play you? I know your movie guy. Also, now know you're a Halloween guy.

Okay. Yeah. So we go hard on Halloween. Pass shoot, score. Your Hagrid costume. Okay. Your Joker costume. Your Chas Michael Michael's costume.

Okay. Joker, pass. It was good. I like doing the Joker, but it was a lot of fucking makeup. A ton of makeup. It was hard. It was hard. And I also-

End of the night, too, that gets up. Yeah, end of the night. And, like, oh, it was hard. It was hard. It was a lot. And I wanted to get, like, a professional makeup person to come do it. Instead, I had Kylie do it. And she did a great job.

She did great. Thanks, babe. She crushed it. They did great. But it was more so just the makeup. So I'm putting that in pass. My shoot is going to be Hagrid. Damn.

My shoot's going to be Haggard. I love Harry Potter. But this is actually kind of crazy. Kylie got me into Harry Potter. I'd never seen any of them until I met her. And she's like, are you kidding me? Like you don't. Did she read them?

Did she read them? I read them all and I'm like, I've never seen those. Never heard of him. Harry who? Yeah. I have that same reaction right now. Dude, never watched any of them. And she's like, oh, we're watching these movies.

And now I'm like, well, they're always on like sci-fi channel. If you turn on a TV, there's a Harry Potter on. Yeah. And I will always still, like, to this day I'll just put it on. And it's like background noise. but I love that. RIP Hagrid. Yeah.

Yeah, that was fun. We did a good job this year. But Chas Michael Michaels is like, I love, not only do I love that movie and Will Farrell, but like that character is, that character fucking kills me. It's so funny. It is one of the most underrated like that. And we did the thing from, we did the, like, I threw Kylie like on my, on my waist. Oh, really?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. picture that pick that's like like they did it when they were skating around so like we yeah we did it like the look up we almost said shit yes yes yes yes yes oh good it was funny damn the haggard was so yeah and like we we i mean we're huge potter guys so like that that you guys smashed that did did yeah okay i still need to watch the reunion special not and you've obviously seen all the movies now so it is you know you won't believe how impact yeah it's good and that robbie culture dude i'm gonna say yeah yeah yeah yeah because it's right before so it's

going to hit even harder, dude. So we are going to have to go head to head on some old Halloween costumes. Because me and you do the exact same thing. I do a different movie character every single year. And I've got some decent ones in the back, for sure. We have a lot of fun. The guys go pretty hard. So, yeah, it's good.

We always have our team party, team Halloween party. I think you guys win every year. We do well. It's across the NHL. It's becoming more and more popular. But as a team, as a collective, I feel like you got everyone shows up. We blow it away. Everybody does a good job.

It's really impressive. Yeah. Really, really impressive. Follow up movie question, because I know you love Adam Sandler and so do we, New England guy. Would you rather be as an actor in the next great Adam Sandler movie or the next great Boston movie?

I'll probably be in the next great Sandler movie. Maybe it's both. Maybe it's in Boston. Yeah, there we go. I mean, with what he's doing nowadays with uncut gems and shit like that, like he might be in a Martin Scorsese. Yeah, he's in a Boston movies. Yeah.

I love Sandler. Old movies are like the same shit as Harry Potter. They're always on. Yeah, they are. They are. And I will put them on every single time I see them. They're just as iconic. Like Waterboy, Longest Yard, like Gilmore,

all of them. Cannot change the champion. Billy Madison, Big Daddy. The list goes on and on. Oh, Mr. Deeds. I mean, he's like, he's just, yeah, the list goes on. He was the goat, dude. For like 10 years, like every Sandler movie was so God.

He just didn't miss. They're all unbelievable. It's unreal. I know. to your hometown. You're a big surfer. So is your dad. To the point where we see the wolf hawk in boards on his Instagram, like the guy

just lives and breath surfing. So, your past should score, you're back in your hometown, you finish surfing. You need a snack after you get out of the water in Long Beach. Are you going slice at Gino's pizza, Ralph's famous Italian ice, or one of these preposterous milkshakes at Diner

by the Sea? Okay, past Diner by the Sea, because I've never even there. I go to Laurel Lunch, and that was my girl, too. Nice. So it's interesting because I hear a lot of locals. I think Diner by the Sea is just like a... People love it. Get out of my face. But they're famous now for these milkshairs. Yeah, they're the crazy ones. Holly, I've seen them, like my sister.

Sisters have gone there. I've never been. But I've seen them on their like Instagrams in the summer and everything and they just go to Diner by Sea. You get these milkshakes. Yeah. Shout out all small businesses in Long Beach. Correct. I'll be in there soon to try one. So I'll put past because I have never had one there. Ralph's, I'm going to shoot. I fucking love Ralphs. We used to go there all the time.

I'll get Rouse Cake batter ice cream. Ralph's is a New Jersey thing too. Yeah. They're all over. Yeah. What do you call it, though? You guys don't call it shaved ice. What do you call it?

Water ice. Yeah. No, no, no, no. You have, Ralph has like cream ice. Yeah, but you guys in Jersey call Italian ice. And you say water too. I don't say that. Say water right now.

Water. Okay. All right. Fine. You pass. You pass, Emily. But do you know what? I feel like you kind of, I for a second, thought you're Canadian, and not just because you're like a hockey player, but you kind of like have a little bit of a Canadian.

They like rub off on you. Yeah, there's too many of them. When you guys said Long Beach, I was like, wait, what? I definitely don't have a New York accent, but at least I don't know, a Boston. Yeah, yeah, you keep the Canadian one. Maybe one day. I've been living there long enough. Love Ralph's Italian Ice's

shout out to them. We used to go there in the summer all the time we'd walk there like there's nothing better than the summer night and like you walk to house it's throwing me down in memory lane right now but gino's pizza is the best pizza i've ever had in my life wow and i like there's there's something about the pizza place that you grew up going to oh for sure like that even if it's the crappiest pizza in the world like if you grew up on it like you will always have that spot in your heart for it so that's gino's with me and when i'm back home i always go there yeah what's your go-to order of ginos Oh, dude, they make like a, well, just the Gino's cheese slices, straight up, like, keep it simple.

You're a cheese guy? Yeah. Like, if you're getting a slice of pizza, you just go plain cheese. Oh, no, no, no. I like pepperoni if I'm doing the standard, like, I'll get a pepperoni slice. But they make this, they do a buffalo chicken, like Sicilian pie. Yeah. Wow, Buckchick Sicilian.

I've never even seen that before. A lot of dough, a lot of shit. Trust me. Is that good. I read a lot about this. I was like, shit, I need to try this. Oh, and they do a vodka. pie there. Yeah. I'll get down with a vodka. Oh yeah. Okay, yeah. Well, so now that you're here,

oh my God. When do you guys leave? Oh, dude. Gino's pizza right now. I'm getting hungry. I love this. I'm glad I've done this to you. Um, now that you're here. We leave, uh, tomorrow night. Okay. After the game. There's a place called Prince Street pizza. Okay. Makes a mean, vodka, Sicilian. That vodka Sicilian, that's, I mean, you could get it. It's mostly where you guys are staying. Is it really? Yeah, yeah. We're right next to crypto. Yeah, it's right up, right up the hill. You can get that, and they deliver all hours of the night. But I could use the twice a day.

Best, best vodka Australian in the city by a mile. Prince Street pizza. You're a little hungover, dude. You might need some greasy pizza to soak up. You need a little bit of grease today. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, Prince Street might be the key for you tonight. Now you're speaking my language.

There you go. Okay, here's a guilty pleasure one. Ready? Okay. Passhoot score, playing Xbox, watching below deck, reality show. Oh, I like below deck. Yeah. Watching Rocket Power, the cartoon.

Oh, man. Man, you know what? Okay, so it's below deck, rocket power, and what was it? Playing Xbox. Playing Xbox. Ooh. Okay, watching Below Deck, I'm going to put pass on. I do watch that with Kylie, and I love the drama.

Oh, nice show. Great show. I love the end. It's the same shit. Every episode, it's the same thing. Like, you get a charter, you get obnoxious guests, and then by it, and then the end, they all go out. Everybody gets blacked out, and it's a huge fight.

It's the same. And then there's rinse repeat. Yeah. Kind of a cool life, too, by the way, to do that. God. Yeah. I'm like, all right.

Shit, man. I love going to bowl like that way. Okay, but I'm going to pass that. I'm going to shoot playing Xbox. I used to play a lot more Xbox. Like back in college,

and you're in the dorms. I don't play as much anymore. But when I do play, I love it. Yeah. What's your game? I'll go. Bring that a little closer to you.

I play Call of Duty with a couple of the boys. I swore off Oh dude he's the best Xbox player ever He's unbelievable Across the board like every game Oh yeah every game Jesus Jake so like a couple years ago Like we did like a Madden tournament

Everybody got Madden We put money in a pot and played Madden Like Clowning guys in Madden And he's like I don't know Never played Madden I just got the game Like he's one of those guys Yeah

Who just is better than everyone at Xbox Yeah He's unreal at Call Duty those guys play Fortnite Pasta, Smitty, Halsey, JD, they still play Fortnite. I deleted that game a long time ago.

I hate that game. Yeah, so do I. Because I just wasn't good and I couldn't build and I'm not. And I'm not good at Xbox anyway. I'm not a good video game player, but I don't know, whatever. I do like playing.

You know what I have is I still have an Xbox 360 and I play NCAA 14, the college football game. One of the best games ever. That's because you have so upsetting. Dude, so I'm not just like, Like as long ago as like last week came home from Jersey after that game. Just went into my room and played 360.

My favorite college football team is... Played an eight-year-old game. Dude, my favorite college football team is Oklahoma State. Like, I got... Dude, I'm a kid from a lot. Like, we don't have any college football near us. So my favorite color is orange. And that's just when you're a kid, right?

So I'm going through all the teams. and I'm like, I got like, it was NCAA, like, 08 on the Wii or something for Christmas. Just saw an orange team with an orange logo. Boom. Boom. That's it. The rest of history. Dude, that is unbelievable.

So I just to play that shit all the time. I have a dynasty with that. It's so fun. It's so fun. Those were the best games ever. And when that got. Well, they're making a new one. Yes.

But it was supposed to be like 23. Yeah. It's going to be 24. Yeah. Dude, I would get like, I'm going to play a lot of Xbox. Oh, yeah. You're going to get back in the game. Oh, big time.

Sure. Dude, Charlie, I would get so addicted to my dynasty that the new game would come out and they'd be like, yo, get the new game. And I'd be like, I just have to see Mike Holt's career. I got to see you through. This guy that I made up was like, this recruiting class I got coming in is really good. Dude, I would customize their jersey. Everything they wear, tint advisor on every single player. That's so funny.

Then there was that there was that feature where you could transfer your college player to Madden. To Madden. And that personal connection, I was like, I never did it. Yeah, me neither. But I was always like this guy and I recruited him. I brought him up. I got to draft him. I got to get this guy into the show.

That's freaking funny. Okay. So that's so funny. I'm glad you guys liked that game. Oh, it's the best game. And then I'm going to score Rocket Power. That is the best show ever made my sister, Shadow Kayla. She got me.

It was on Amazon Prime maybe, like watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she bought me. Like the whole thing? The whole thing. Bobby, all of it. So, yes, for Christmas, like, four years ago or something. And she's like, here's the login, like, whatever, all the rock.

So I went and watched, like, we watched them all together as like a family. And it was so freaking throwback, man, the nostalgia. And then I haven't watched them in a long time. But they're there. There's somewhere. Did it hold up on that family rewatch? Were you like, the show still awesome? Dude, it's still awesome.

It's still awesome. And even, like, if it's not. like for what it was back then and what it like meant when we were kids I mean it's like it's still so there's some life lessons in that show I'll tell you that oh yeah I mean Uncle Tito is a legend he's oh dude Uncle Tito he's brilliant and I'm so I'm a big surfer as well yeah and like growing up having a show on Nickelodeon with like surfer kids I was like this is awesome my cousin my cousin was over the house uh for winter classic they were in town so a few days ago and he's the first time he met Otto so

Otto is obviously my dog is named after Otto Rocket and he was like did you name Otto after Rocket Power? So my cousin this is my uncle Bobby

he was in the Air Force so he was in Hawaii for a while so he goes you're not going to believe this but Tito so Uncle Tito the guy who voiced him came and like spoke at his school

when he was growing up in Hawaii I kid you not oh my God everyone in the auditorium and you got Uncle Tito and they're like And he come as like, and now the voice of Uncle Tito on Rocket Power. That's probably how they introduced him. No one would have known. It was him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I was wondering like maybe he did something else. This blew my mind. He's like, bro, Tito was in the auditorium with us and we're not joking when he was in school. He came and talked to us. Best guess ever. I'm like, that's amazing. What type of inspirational stuff? Yeah, could he have said? Yeah, he needs to script. Well, I mean, with the sage wisdom that Uncle Tito had on the show, I'm sure he just brought some of that school. So, I, yeah. So, I, I mean, I, Now that we've brought up Otto the Rocket Dog, I have a bit of a gripe that Darla, Forberts Dog, is like the team dog. Like, is Otto pissed about this? Like, I feel like we need to get Otto in the mix.

We need Otto more love. Oh, I mean, it's a healthy, it's a good fuel for him to get his cloud back up. Yeah, be better. No, he's, I freaking love my dog, man. I was Kylie wanted to get a dog. She had family dogs. growing up I had a dog when I was really young so like earliest memories I kind of remember our dog and then the rest of my childhood

we didn't have one so I was kind of on like the no I don't want a dog and then you know she kind of convinced me we got him during COVID like I didn't realize how much like you just fall in love

with your dog like I like I freaking do you come home every single day that thing is so happy to see me and he's an awesome dog too like we got really lucky like he's really well tempered and everything he's a beauty too oh he's great and he's you can be a dash 5 and he's like I love you

dude doesn't care I'm home out of the worst day of my life and he's like is gonna lick my face and he's so excited to see you like you are the greatest person I've ever met yes yes dude the emotional support you get from a dog I'm freaking I get I miss him when I leave I'm like I can't wait head back home yeah have you ever brought him on a road trip no no we brought him He had a sleep over at the hotel for the Winter Classic because Kylie was checking her family.

Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. Because everybody was in town and my family was staying at our place and she's like, I'm going to bring him to the hotel. So he had a little sleep over at the Ritz. Yeah, yeah. Ritz dog. We haven't really taken him anywhere far. I don't know. We haven't even tried to fly with him.

I don't even know if he's right on that like 30 pound threshold or I don't know if you can. Oh, if he can come back dog him. I mean, oh, that's a good point. Below the plane stuff just like rattles. Oh, I know, I know. I was on my flight back yesterday. Yeah. I was walking through JetBlue Mint,

and there's this woman sitting there in first class with a full, like a monster Labradoodle in her lap. Really? Jesus Christ. But that might have been... That might have been... I got it before you, dude.

They've all got the vests on now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I was on that... There was like five dogs on that plane. There's this one dude who brought... He had a little Frenchie, actually. Did he? But this thing was maybe two months old.

Okay, yeah. And this... Baby, baby. Yeah, total baby. Like, he still had the rolls on his face. And he brought him back in his little. in his little bag and this poor guy had just like shit everywhere in the bag

because he's like a puppy. Yeah, of course, yeah. This dog is just struggling on the way. Well, that's a long flight for a little baby. Long, long, long flight. All right, we got two more for you. Okay. Two more past shoot scores.

This one is one that you, from what I understand, things you do not like. Okay. So, past shoot score. And, yeah, like the order of this is going to be same order, but think about the ones, like score will be your worst. Like, pass you can tolerate.

Score is like, no. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Every day for a year, you have to eat avocado toast for breakfast. Next one, you get home, and there's a guarantee that Otto doesn't get eaten. But Kylie has bought a pet snake. And this thing has to live out of a cage just slithering around your house. Okay. So it's just like, you have a live snake in the house.

I don't want a live snake. I wouldn't either. And then the last one is you have to become TikTok famous and post TikTok dance videos every day. As your side hustle. Damn. How could I put that one over the snake? I know. But I might. I might put up with a fucking snake so I don't have to be TikTok.

I don't even have TikTok. It's a nightmare. These are things that you hate. Okay, I like avocado toast. I don't know who gave you that intel. Oh, interesting. Okay. I love a good avocado.

I learned one somewhere that you found avocado overrated. Avocado, it is overrated. Like charge an extra for guas. and shit. Yeah. But but avocado toast we're down with. Yeah. I'll be an R2. I do hate, because I like avocado toast, but I do hate how I'm like, oh hell yeah. If I'm like, hey, can I have some toast? Like, yeah, it's free. And I'm like, can you just spread some avocado on? And they're like this, yeah, 20 bucks. Yeah. I'm like, what? Dude, it was free toast one second ago. It's an avocado. All right. Well, then that's an easy pass. Yeah, that's easy pass.

Yeah. I like avocado toast. Um, I, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to shoot this i'm gonna shoot a living with a snake yep so i don't have to become tick tock famous wow just you didn't say it was like a cobra or anything though like nope maybe i'm just thinking like fair oh no it nice well i did say there's no fear that auto gets eaten implying it is a large snake it's a large snake like we're talking about like snakes on a plane snake yeah yeah oh yeah like there's like a boa in your house oh no and it's like shedding and shit oh yeah fuck i still don't want to be ticot famous so i love this answer so this is not as expect expecting it all, but I love to love this.

I would rather... The snake is eating Otto, too. No, no, no. I'm telling you, there's a caveat of this scenario. It's not eating on. There's a world where you actually become TikTok famous because Otto and the snake are such a good thing. Yeah, like that's the loophole here.

Unlikely animal duos. Okay. All right, here we go. Favorite win of these three, and we're not counting, the world junior gold is not in this because I know that would win. Okay. Pass you'd score these three wins in your career. Okay.

Game 1, 2019, Stanley Cup Finals. Your first Cup game ever, you score a sick goal to hide on the power play. Yeah, unbelievable. That was sick. That was sick. That was sick. Second one. Beanpot freshman year, first game.

You score the game, your first ever bean pot, you score the game winner against Northeastern at the Garden, place going insane. Number three, the Bell Capital Cup final when the goals beat the Syracuse stars 9-1 and you had a tuck. Yeah. Holy cow. through the Bell Capital Cup. That was such a fun. Redemption. That would be like this time of year.

So it was always right after Christmas. I'm going to pass. I'll pass the Bell Capital Cup. Really? Yeah. So that was a blast. It was always this time of year. So right after Christmas, like, we'd hit the road.

You go to Ottawa. And all the games were whatever at your local youth rank in Ottawa. But if you made it to the final, like, so that Sunday, all the finals games were played at Scotia Bank, which is now Canadian tire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it used to be Scotia Bank. So that was the first time I ever

played on NHL ice and like it was sick. And you lost it in the year before. You absolutely blew them out. We blew them out. We lost in the semifinals to we lost to them. Yeah, I think or yeah, maybe it was.

I think so. So we didn't make it to the final that year. And then, yeah, we. Because you had the NHL ice ripped from you, dude. And then you come back against the stars and pummel them, dude. Pumped them. I know. That was really cool. What a good memory that was. Thanks for taking me down memory. Of course. You got it. And then I'll do the Northeastern. That was great. That was my first time playing at the garden. And that was really cool. The bean pot, like, I didn't understand it because I didn't, like, grow up with college hockey. Just how important it is and how cool it is there. Like, it's unbelievable. And, like, everyone's there. The student sections are crazy. Like, it embodies what the coolest part of college hockey is.

That's one of our favorite things about college hockey because growing up near there, that was like an easy ticket for our parents. So it was like, we went to be hot every year. Yeah. And it was like, dude, that was like in my dream as a kid. I was like, I will like, this is the coolest thing I've ever. And Charlie, I mean, we grew up in a little beach town in southern Maine.

So like we had U Maine, UNH, then all the Boston schools. Like we were surrounded by college hockey. So it was just like the bean pot is huge. Dude, fucking bean pot. I lost the finals that thing twice. I know, dude. Oh, God. Overtime, one nothing.

against BC Alex Tuck scored. Yep. And then the next year was, Harvard, right? Harvard beat is pretty good. They were good. They went to the Frozen Four that year. Yeah, they were a wagon that year.

They were good. So were you, though. Yeah, so I didn't get it bean pot. And then I'll score the Stanley Cup. Stanley Cup. Yeah. Yeah. That was really cool, man.

Those memories are so bittersweet because it's like you're enjoying the ride and like I obviously still remember everything so vividly like that roller coaster. You win a game and you're like, I'm where am I taking the Stanley Cup when we win like you lose a game and it's just over and you're like well I can't believe we did all this for nothing like that's that's like the roller coaster of emotions and like maybe it's because I was younger so like I have a little bit more experience now

different like perspective on it but I remember like just how crazy every single moment was like and that change of emotions it was really cool it was really neat um obviously hope I get a chance again. Hell yeah. And that's sports, right? Like one team gets out of here. That's it. That's it. That's it. Holy shit. One team went all that way for nothing. Yeah. Been on that side. So maybe you got to learn how to lose to. Exactly. Well, listen to, work the world juniors. I feel pretty good. Yeah, it did. Guys this year. It did work. Yeah. All right, dude, we're going to wrap it up with you because we've taken up enough of your time. But before we go, is there anything that you want to

say to the listeners or things that you want to give a shout out to? Oh, shout out Long Beach. Shout out all the small businesses. That was cool. That was a really cool segment you guys did that brought me down memory lane i'm excited for the summer i'm going back i'm going to get a slice of pizza from genos i was would say then i'll go to ralce and then maybe try one of the same down yeah you gotta get one i was gonna say i need to go to long beach and surf and try genos now yeah you should oh dude you got me fires up about pizza i got and i'll look up and i'll look at that prince we're gonna get prince free pizza today now because of this i love it i love it thank you guys i'm thanks a much i'm glad to be one of the best guys i've ever met and what an absolute

champion. They had their rookie party last night in L.A. They hit Boa, eating apps on apps on apps on apps. Rib eyes. Caesar salads. Drink in etcho tequila sodas. Yeah. And then Bootsie Bellows, by the way, just going to town. Which, by the way,

is no joke. Bootsy Bellows does not they have one speed and you are going full throttle the whole time. They had a party bus. So, yeah. Max said he might have been the drunkest girl to party too. Yeah, which I love. And AJ Greer, the only rookie on the team really. So people had to step up,

do some skits with him. Well, speaking of sorry to interrupt. No, you're a part of this. Speaking of rookie party, I think I'm I think one of his teammates messaged me on Hinge. Oh, who? This is hot ice. I don't know. He's like a

It could be. Well, it's up right now. First of all, is hot. Yeah, he's a hot dude. Hot dude, tall, unbelievable. And Great America Let it be known. He is, yeah. This would be. Yeah, his name. So last night he just, like,

like said what up? He said, yesterday. He said, where are you at? I am so mad. Today I saw it and I responded. How did you not bring that up to Charlie? I'm so mad. They're in town tonight still. They don't leave till tomorrow morning. Hit him up. Wait, where are you?

Yes, he's a hot-ass dude. They don't even, they leave, they leave tomorrow late. They're here all day tomorrow. Love that move. I'm cutting that part. Why? I don't want it to know who it is. I'll cut after it when I say is. Just beep it out. You can beep it out.

Anyway, yeah, just the best guy ever. You would never notice that Charlie was hungover as fuck, but he was. And he battled and he was unbelievable. So it's just huge, huge thanks to Charlie. That was just so much fun. You're the man. Dude, any guy that can win a gold in Montreal get tuned up for like 48 hours and then drive straight to Fenway to play an outdoor game for BU

and win that game too can handle the pod. Yeah, what a legend. All right, let's wrap up the episode as we always do with some of our favorite segments. We're going to do some quack attack. Okay, we're doing quack attack. Welcome back to the quack attack, everybody. And for the new listeners, every week, Dan and I rate the three hottest teams in the league based on the three mighty ducks movies. The third best team is the Eden Hall. J.V. The second best team is the Ducks one, District 5 team, and the first team is the Goodwill Games Ducks. This week, since we've been gone, we're going to break a little bit about our own rules and kind of look at a wider stretch here. It's not just the last couple days because we just felt like some teams were so hot that they deserved some credit for us being away. We didn't want to over it. overlook them. We're getting back into it, so we're going to stretch it out. Our third hottest team of the week is going to be the Tampa Bay Lightning. They're 10 and 3 in December, 11 and 3, if you count their win last night. Only losses are to the Leafs and the Red Wings twice. And the Red Wings,

don't sleep on them not being in the playoffs right now because they're a wagon and they have, they're the most injured team in the league right now. So they are very good. They've ripped off five in a row. They're up Toronto's ass for that second place in the Atlantic. They're down four points, but they have two games in hand. So, you know, the sleeping giant is back. The bolts started slow and they are hot. Don't sleep on Tampa. Do not.

The number two team in the quack attack, the District 5, Mighty Ducks, is your Carolina Hurricanes. Nine and one in their last ten, Dan. Head won ten in a row before losing to the rags five three last night, actually. And honestly, man, they could be, and possibly should be the number one team this

quack attack session, but I just really wanted to save something for you particularly. But they're the hottest team going, man, they have caught and passed the Devils after that super hot start from New Jersey and everyone was going nuts about the Devils. They beat the Devils twice in this stretch they've been on. They have the second most points in the league and this team was a preseason favor and they have it all the way figured out right now. Yeah, they sure do. And our number one hottest team in the league right now is my Buffalo Sabre. Would you look at that? Everyone counted them out after I called them a certified wagon.

And ho-hum, after a tough double loss to the Penguins, they've won seven straight, including a massive OT win against the Boston Bruins. By the way, first straight-up OT loss for the Bruins all season. They've lost in the shoot-up, but I've not lost in OT, but they did. They're getting monster production from our boys, Alex Tuck, and my prince, Tage Thompson,

who's fucking around and maybe going to win MVP right now. But these guys are surging. sniffing sniffing that wild card playoff spot they are unbelievable right now

they are the highest scoring team in the league over the bees not gold dip but highest scoring team they're starting to

figure it out they're coming into their own the Buffalo Sabres are the hottest team in the league incredible Emily please put

that sniffing on your only fans yeah oh yeah yeah my ASMR only fan yeah unbelievable

all right let's get into some Ico watch Chris Okay, here we're with Ika watch. Dan, I have a running bet. We're trying to see. I said Jack Iko over 72 points was easy money this year.

Dan disagreed. And then we're also on 90 point watch because Dan might have to eat 90s from cocktail. And I got to say for everybody, it's sad. Well, there's pros and cons here. So last time we checked in, he had 29 points in 27 games. He still has 29 points in 27 games

because he was placed on injured reserve. Here's the thing. The one nice thing, well, Jack has done so many nice. things for me this year, my good friend, Jack. Another nice thing he did was go on IR while we were on break. Like, I never actually had to come on the pod. You didn't really have to answer for this. He was being hurt, which was always the fear, right? It's almost like he knew. It is. It's almost like he was aware. So here's the thing. He missed two games. He came back, played a game, went pointless, and then they put him on IR and he missed 11 straight. So, Dan, it is Wednesday

today, yesterday, Tuesday. He was removed from IR and is projected to play tomorrow against Pitt, which is great news. So he is back and I'm so happy. And we're rooting for him. Here's the interesting thing. With those 13 missed games, he's now assuming perfect health will only play 69 games this season. Yeah. Which means through a 69 game season, he is currently on pace for 74 points. So he's still hit, I'm still safe in terms of my bet. Yes. Now like kind of in the middle there of like the nothing. And I will say this, in the name of content, the 72 point bet stands. In the name of content, I would be willing to do some sort of number crunch.

Compromise punishment. Yeah. Like if he finishes the season with an amount of points that is comparable to a 90 point pace. So he's on a 90 point pace per games played. Yes. You will still do it.

I will still do it. Okay, I respect you. In the name of content. Thank you very much. Because I do love Jack, like I said. Yep. But the 72 point, there's no loophole because injuries was a part of it

and I need him to hit it and he's still on pace. So we're rooting for you, Jack. Yes. And if people remember, the only reason I said 72 wasn't a lock is because of injury. I was like, I'm not sure he's going to go 82 games. And looks like that was... All right, our next segment, where in the world is Austin Matthews?

We've kind of taken a break on this a little bit because the Leafs are firing. They're looking as good as ever. They're second in the Atlantic. Just a really solid squad getting a lot of production from their top guys. Austin being one of them, he's got 19 goals and 25 assists for 44 points and 38 games. He has become officially the fastest Maple Leaf ever to hit 500 career points. Which is sick. The fact that he already has 500 career points is laugh out loud stuff.

It just speaks to how unbelievable he is. Like we said, the Leafs are in second place. However, those bolts, you know, they got two games in hand. So it's not that pretty. It's not looking that good. And then the bigger one that I'd like to point out is, yet again, the Toronto Maple Leafs lost to a little old team in the desert, the dirty dogs, the coyotes. They got shit pumped, in fact. Yeah, as they always do.

And it begs the question, I don't know. coyotes sitting down there in last place. There's a little boy named Connor Bedard who's lighting the world on fire looking like he's got a ticket, a one-way ticket on a bullet train right to Arizona. It's going to be chilling in Tempe. Maybe Austin's saying it might be fun to play with him.

So while the Maple Leafs are doing well, Austin's doing well, I don't know. I just think he's searching right now. I'm going to put him in Montana. We're going to put Austin in Big Sky right now. He's doing some skiing. He's enjoying life in God's country. And, you know, if you kind of look straight down the country from Montana,

there's a little state called Arizona that's right, right there. So don't get too comfortable leaves fans. The bolts are sniffing up your ass and you still can't get past those dirty dogs. They just continue to get your goat. So Austin doing very well, just like his team, but he's still searching. Still searching. That's all I'm saying. I'm happy about it.

That takes us right to the playoff trail, Dan. and listen, we already talked about Buffalo and the quack attack so we don't have to go too deep, but I just did want to ask you, you know, Tage is obviously doing his thing, but Tuck is firing, Skinner is firing, Dahlene is firing, you've seen the Gold Diff, up to plus 21, so they're taking care of the puck in the D zone. They could be

real trouble here at this point. Like, they are, they are very, very much in the mix for wild card contention for the rest of the season. And I know you're all over the stories and everything, but you've just got to be feeling really validated. I feel fantastic, dude. I mean, it's just, I never gave up. I never wavered. I've stuck by my guys.

And listen, there might be some rough pumpkins coming up here for the latter half of the season, and I'm going to stand right by them the whole time. They're in one of those right now where you stop the Oregon Trail wagon to hunt and this fucking buffalo everywhere. You know, like the family is fed for the next month. But dysentery is around the corner, dude. Yes, it always is. That's the thing. Take care of that meat.

This is, what has happened in years past with the Buffalo Savers is they start hot. and we rest on our laurels, dude. And the next thing you know, we have dysentery. And we're dying. We're dying in the streets. We're getting dumped in trenches. We're cruising along.

That's not happening this time. We're staying sharp. We know that we're not perfect, so we're going to just keep rolling here. Amazing stuff. Like I said, the wagon rolls on, dude. Not too fast. Not grueling speed.

No, no. We're a slow, steady tempo to the playoffs. Okay, let's give people some games to watch as we get out of here. Okay, my two games to watch, I'm going two Saturday tilts. Number one, Rangers Devils. Always love me a Rangers Devils game. Just two great teams.

I think they're both, you know, in a similar spot in the playoffs, but battling. Really looking good right now. That's going to be a fun one. And then my other one, I always love this matchup for whatever reason, Kings Knights. I think Kings Knights have a sort of unofficial rivalry here. It's always an electric game. That's Saturday? Two beautiful Saturday games for you guys.

I believe, let me see, that King's Night's game, I believe, is in... Because I would go to that if that's here. No, Vegas. Okay, well, we'll get you on the next one. We will. Okay, great stuff. Hopefully this pod comes out Friday. If it does and you're listening Friday...

No, oh, well, producer Emily, that's on you. This pot is coming out Friday. If it comes out on Friday and you're listening... It's coming out Friday. If you're listening Friday morning, Yotes at Hawks, Baddard! After watching the World Juniors, this has never been more important. These suck hard for Bardard games have become appointment television. Then you got a good one right there, the last place Hawks and like the third to last place, Yotes.

Saturday, I got a good one for you, too, Dan, Avs at Oilers. Two of the best guys in the business going head to head. You always love to watch that game. And then last one, I thought you'd like this one, Dan. Monday next week Seattle at Montreal Bowie the Metal Shane Wright v. Slav

Wow dude Bowie v. Metal Canadian's in a bad way right now I think they've lost five in a row They could use the win But I'm gonna love You know I think metal actually Only comes out during reverse retro

Is Shane Wright going to be back with the crack in here? I think he's back up right Well he's playing on the world junior team watching Connor Bardard dance all over his grave Yeah true But that semifinal is right now And then got to be the final probably be bad.

Monday? Yeah. So anyway, we'll see. It's going to be a good one. All right. Well, that is it for us this week at the MT Netters podcast. Guys, we really hope you enjoyed that Charlie McAview. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God, damn. Yes. Why do I keep saying that?

I don't know. We really hope you enjoyed that Charlie McAvoy interview. It's actually embarrassing. But I actually think this episode should be called the Maccabee. The Mac of you, yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's preemptive. No, we really, we really, really hope you guys enjoyed that Charlie McAvoy interview. He's just truly one of the best. guys in the league. It's shocking how he's 25. Dude, he's just like the most level-headed,

mature, well-put-together kid in the league and is already a certified stud. Love everything about him. So we hope you guys love that. And until then, we will catch you next week.