Empty Netters Podcast - BONUS: Heated Rivalry Episode 3 Review

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

Holy smokes the Scott Hunter episode!! Did not see that one coming. This was somehow more emotional than episode 2 which we didn’t think was possible. So many GOATS in this one, it was hard to keep track. We need more of Kip’s dad! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Okay, folks, we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Deep into episode three of Heated Rivalry, our new favorite show. I have a few things to say right off the top. Number one, I'm calling this the episode of goats. There are so many goats in this episode. That's actually true. I didn't even know you're going to say that, but that is actually true.

Number two, and Sean, I think you agree, absolutely my favorite episode so far. Absolutely my favorite episode. And finally, Scott Hunter, I fucking knew it. I called it from episode one. Did you say he was gay? I was like, Scott Hunter knows, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's also. Okay, yeah, because I...

Dealing with this. I didn't know that part. But you guys were way on that he knew. Clocking it. He was clocking it. He's a season pro in more ways than one. I will say in the Scott Hunter timeline. Yes.

Because I said to Sean, I had a little chat, Sean, before he got in. And I was like, for a show that has flashed forward at an an alarming rate. I could not believe when we started. Bring us back. It's like a Tarantino movie. We're just jumping around constantly. We are, it's like, this is a combination of Tarantino and Nolan and we're just all over

the place. This is, this is unbelievable. We, but replace the gratuitous violence with gratuitous romantic sex. Right. Now, we have heated rivalry. That's the formula right there. We sure is. We didn't go back far enough.

And I suppose this. still happen. Yeah. But now that I've had this episode, I still can't believe the no, I thought at least in this episode, we'd get the confirmation that it mattered that he was in the hotel room next to them.

And we still don't. You know, like, I was like, is that still a throwaway thing? Maybe eventually when it comes out between Hunter and Hollander, he'll be like,

I was in the room next to you. I fucking know. Yeah. Maybe that still happens. But right now, I'm like, how? Well,

I mean. episode that he definitely does know from a certain comment he makes we'll talk about later. Yes. I also love all of the interactions with Scott looking back on them now. He's making these comments intentionally. And I'd like to think. I'm not gay. And he's like, I'd like to think that he's offering an olive branch to Shane.

By the way, I want to acknowledge and thank all of the people in the YouTube comment section, A, helping us, educating us on all of our questions, B, just being along for this ride and being so wonderful. But people came out, I guess the Rosie was a captions. I don't want to say error. But Rachel Reed apparently has come out and been like, Shane would never call him Rosie. And I'm here to say, I wish he did.

Me too. Because I'll tell you what, my one, I was going to get into this later, in this episode, but I'll just say it now. I think my one complaint with the show is the lack of NHL nicknames. We don't call people their name ever.

Literally ever. Like, it is so rare for a guy to be called by their last name or their first, like, it's always a nickname. And Rosie is such a good nickname. Everyone would call it. The entire team would call it. For Rosenoff.

Like, that is perfect. So I'd like to call him with permission. I'd like to call him Rosie. Consent. Consent king. And also, I really love, like, I think Hollander could be like, I mean, Holly is too easy, but like, Halls is a great one. I was actually laughing, Dan.

I had the same thought, and I was like, oh, why wouldn't they call him Holly? And I was like, oh, you should have put Holly in the phone. That would have been the good girl thing. Would have been great. But I was like, that might be too. Too close people would be like this is that Shane Holler? But like, Holly, those are great ones too? Yeah.

It's fantastic. Yep. So, anyway, we get this great shot. Scott Hunter's reaction. So we're like, we're off to the races. We flashback. Yeah. We've got Scott Hunter running down the streets of New York City,

captain of the New York Admirals. Admirals? I think so. Yeah. Unbelievable moment. I got pissed though. He looks fucking ripped too. Kind of translucent shirt, bro, with only sweaty down the ab line.

I mean, God. That actually was. That actually was. sick I wrote it. I was like, Jesus, God. Good Lord. That actually pissed me off, though, because I got to, I watched late last night, and you two had already chimed it on the thread saying it was your favorite episode. So I was like, no spoiler. So I knew I was going into something good. And I got so pissed right away because they go in the, the radio, or maybe it was man on the crease again.

Yeah. It was man on the crease again. Somebody was like, Scott Hunter has been bad. He hasn't scored in six games or whatever. He has zero points to start the year. And they go, they were like, and he's been named Team USA captain. I did see that you mentioned this, and I think it's important to mention because it was rude. Dude, the thing Sean goes. This is, I'm looking at you, Jacob. I see you.

Little dig. Yeah. Little dig at the Yanks. They go, they go, this year, Scott Hunter has zero points through six games. After coming off last year, his best year ever with 70 points. And he's now captain of Team USA. And 70 points. Dude, I love.

Okay, well, all right. Let's not, let's not, if I had 70 points, in the show, I'd be very happy with myself. Me too, but we will be respected and appreciated. We've got better players than that. We are just as good as Canada now and our best players have a shitload of points. Yes.

And that's, that's all. That is all. That's all. That's all. That's all. Hector did not have 70 points and be captain. He had 140. That is all. Fuck you. Yeah. That's how I feel about that. So I got off to a hot start, dude. So we got Scott running down the streets of New York as the captain of the New York hockey team

and he pops into strawberry. Is it called strawberry? Yeah, I think so. It was a straw plus berry or something? Yeah, like it's like straw something berry or whatever. But he jumps into a smoothie shop. And we see Kip sleeping on the job. Oh yeah, I forgot.

Only to find out, though, because Kip is working his ass off. Now, complete and utter hunk, Kip. Yeah. I mean, we've got just two rockets here. unbelievable. But he comes in and immediately they start flirting.

There's some good chat, chat, chat, chat, good banter. There's a little bit of tension there. And I absolutely love the decision here. No other patrons in the shop. Allow Scott to be like let it fly a little bit. Like he's like, you know, here we go.

I mean, this guy's cute. Does he good banter? Does Scott Hunter think it's appropriate to walk into public stores in that shirt? Well, yeah. I think if more than just Kipp were in there, if more than just Kipp were in there, I don't think he was allowed to go inside. That shirt's not that. It's just an underarmor shirt.

Well, he looks like he was swimming in it. He looks like he was swimming in it. Well, the guy's working hard. He's sweating. I will say, I don't think it's appropriate for anyone else except for people with a Scott Hunter body. Yeah. It was, I mean, if you are a sweaty boy, which I think Scott Hunter clearly is. Yep.

And you're running in that white shirt. you have to be aware. Yeah. Yeah. But I think Sean's right. I think when you're ripped up like that, you're like, yeah. If I was that shredded,

I'd do like a reverse Winnie the Pooh thing where I just, I'm never wearing clothes from the waist up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And hey, I wouldn't blame you. Yeah. I wouldn't blame you. So he goes in there.

They're letting it fly a little bit. He gets the blueberry smoothie with extra banana because that's how Kip likes it. We love to see it. And I love Scott flexing the NHL money. Yeah, yeah. Big fat tip. Yeah. Yeah.

I was like, whoa, can't accept this. And he's like, yeah, you can, dude. Yep. I got you. Now we've got the coworker drops the girl. Girl. She's like, girl. God damn.

So I love- That was sick when the kid came in after too. That was really awesome because we needed it for Kip to know who it was. But I also loved that comment acknowledging like that was, there was tension there. But also, we've got a, we've got a friend. Kind of like Svetty. Did you guys know ahead of? of time or I guess you maybe guess but it like because clearly in that combo with Kip I was like oh shit

Scott's gay I wrote in my name is Scott gay well that's what that's why I wrote at the very top with his look I was like Scott is we are about to get Scott's gay storyline because I was like Scott is gay I was I was clocking it episode one dude yeah I was like Scott's gay too I thought it might have been like a red herring thing like that was going to be the drama of this episode is that Scott was giving gay vibes but wasn't gay yeah but and that was going to be like the heart wrench of it all. But it didn't go that direction. I'm very glad that it didn't go that direction. I was stunned and I also said to Sean before you got in, we both love how this show takes every opportunity to do the gayest version of the story beat. So like in the smoothie, it could be any

ingredient. But it's got to be extra banana. But he's like a extra banana. Hell yeah. Yeah, right. Like I really appreciate that for the show. You know, it could have been like, oh, I add blueberry to this smoothie and it's like, boom. Yeah. Genius. Add some raspberries. No. Yeah, no. Pass. Well, raspberries are kind of cute.

Give people raspberries up and down in the belly. At a fucking frozen banana. Yeah. Come on. That's great. I think I mentioned this in episode one, but this was a cool moment for me with these two here. Again, kind of being Scott the only patron there in the store. Here, another question to the listeners.

We talked about gay d'art and gay guys. They're acknowledging each other. I want to know, like, is that a thing? Like, even if you're a closeted, like, is it? is banter moments like that prevalent because like I was I thought it was awesome the tension I was like oh fuck like

like I said again being the only guy in there you could feel that Scott was like I got an opportunity here this guy's fucking a babe I gotta make it I gotta make a play I something to say about that later okay so we get the reveal from the other person comes in he's like holy shit was that Scott Hunter

then we see uh Kipper reading the newspaper yeah I get that's 2014, but there was something I loved about it. I was like, I don't think I was reading the newspaper in 2014, but I think it works for Kip. Because Kip's kind of a classic man. Yeah, he's a finer things club. Yeah, he is.

And I was like, this is, I loved the newspaper, so good. We get him and his friends in this gay bar, gay sports bar. Yeah. Awesome. And what did he say it was called? I've got the name written down later, but it was a great, it's a great name. I can't remember. I'll get to it. I'll get to it. But something I wanted to know, I'll see if you guys clock this. Kipps with Elena in the bar. And they are, they order Chinese food.

Yeah. From a different place, go to their favorite bar where their friend is a bartender at and eat the Chinese food in their favorite booth. If there's anything on planet Earth that I need in my life, it's my local watering hole that lets me bring Chinese food in because I, I'm homies with the boss. Yeah, that was the dream. That was like, I was like, fucking holy hell. And that was awesome. Let me put on whatever I want on TV.

They're like, here's the remote. That was awesome. But I don't know if you guys felt this or clocked this. We have Kip and Scott with a nice flirtatious moment. Kipp's reading the newspaper, seeing that he had hat trick. Then we see him watching in the bar. I felt like Kip was the representation of

so many people in this community watching and loving heated rivalry and now watching and loving the NHL. Yeah. Like that, I was like, this is incredible. Like, Kip, Kip is representing so many right now. And it was just great. That's such a good call. That's exactly what was happening.

Right? It was just so cool. It was so well done. Suttled, but also, like, made total sense that Kipp's like, just, I watch hockey? This guy's fucking hot. Like, we had a vibe. I'm going to watch and play.

This is great. So Scott comes back in. He and Kip are flirting again. We have Scott being like, do you mind if I answer some emails here? They have their little serial killer banter. Yep. I learned something there. Spree killer.

Yes. Really, really bold move for like one of your first flirtatious encounters to bring up like serial murders. That's special. That's my fastball. Yeah. I get it out of the way. I got to, I've got to rip that bandaid off, dude. It's important.

I love that he was a reader though. I was into, I was into like Scott. I wrote it. I was like, I got to get Scott and Book Club, dude. That's that he's my time to play NHL guy. They, um, they, they, they, I feel like we established like a lot of shared interests early here with the two of them. But so as they're chatting, you know, Kip's kind of cleaning up. We get the, we're talking about the superstitions.

They bring up playoff beards. Kip says you guys look like hot lumberjacks. We get a brief moment, a brief pause. Oh, Kip's like, fuck. I went too far. But then. he invites him to the game. Moment of vulnerability that was just awesome.

Like felt like a miss. He was like, fuck. We were viving. I took a swing. It didn't work. But then you, buddy, you hit it out of the park. Here's my question. Here's the first issue of,

first instance of my questions to the comments in this episode. I have always heard that the gay dar is a thing. So I completely. buy it when I'm watching these shows and they're just like immediately flirting because I'm like, how? But it's, because I would never do that to a girl at the smoothie place. You know, like, we're in one now. It's like, you know.

But I so I completely buy that gay d'ar is a thing and they are going. But I've always wondered, eventually, though, you have to take a shot, raise the flag, right? Like, I know you think, and you're like, trust me, I know. I can tell he's gay. I can tell we're vibing. But surely at some point, you have to go. say a thing that you're like, I'm gay. Whether it's that or this.

So I always wonder how to navigate that moment. Is this accurate? Because I love this, where he's like, plus you look like hot lumberjacks. And I'm like, okay, so you're gay. Like, that's the moment where he goes, I'm gay, 100%. And then it's up to Scott to answer. No, dude. Yeah, that, yeah, I was going to say maybe not 100%,

but yeah, you're probably right. If you're vibing with this dude and then you go, I like how the hockey place is like hot lumberjacks. That is him going, I'm attractive. I would lean in to kiss that guy. if I was straight. And if he went like, whoa,

I'd be like, what, dude? Are you insane? No, yeah, I think you got to, I think you got to take a shot. Right.

I mean, Scott coming back, you could play it. Like he says, he's like, you know, if something goes well in my game, I obsess over it and blah,

blah, blah. So it's like, sure. But then him being like, I'm going to stay and answer emails. Like Scott's throwing vibe to. Yes,

for sure. So yeah, I think you got it, yeah, you take a swing. I assume, right? Because I suppose you could not.

I suppose you could be like, no, I trust my instincts. But I think that's person to person. Yeah. You know, it's like, I don't think that's necessarily, you know, that's just person to person. But I love that both of these guys, they went for it. Now, we get Kipp and Elena at the game. I was blown away with this. At the game, we're doing warmies.

Scott's buzzing around out there, gives him a nod. And Elena's like, whoa. Yo. Kip looks behind him. Then, buzzing around, gives him a wave. And Elena's like,

fucking wave back. And Kip's like, oh my God, waves back. And Scott does another route. Waves again. Love this moment. It's just like,

you can see how happy Scott is. He's starting to play well now after meeting Kip. It's great. The one thing I wanted to point out, could you imagine how hard the hockey girlies of 2025 would be all

over this. Elena. No, no, no, no. I'm talking all, like we've,

we've become so close with the San Jose shark's girlies and like the Kings girlies. Like, these like young female fans of hockey, they're capturing everything. Yeah. Like they are videotaping everything.

They're noticing every little thing. I don't know if you notice after Quinn got traded, someone posted his first game in Minnesota. They were like, Hey, Quinn Hughes fans, I'm new here. Is this normal? And it was when Quinn just goes ghost on the bench.

And he's like, like they capture everything. Yeah. And I'm saying like in 2025 that this were happening, they'd be like, who is the fucking hot dude that Scott Hunter is waving at? Like it would be crazy. Yeah.

So that's what I'm saying. And I also think they'd be like jealous of Elena. They'd be like, yeah. And they'd be like, is it Elena? Yeah. It was just, but like the tension. God, the tension. I loved that moment, but I also thought it was a little,

based on what I would come to learn about Scott. I was surprised looking back that he would do a double pass wave. Well, I think, yep, we'll get into that. I think I loved it for a couple things. One, I love that Elena was there because I feel like that's a safety point. Yes. Anyone could be like, he's waving at Elena, dude. You can wave a friend.

You can wave at your friends. I'm just saying based on what I know bucks got, I was like, you cannot and wave at your boys. That was my next point. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, that's his boy, dude. He's just waving at his, like, his homie. Like, if we went to a game to see sway and he's,

sauce in the stands. Like he might be like this. What up? Yep. It's just questions. Safety. But I, but I, but I, the safety blanket was there. Loved it. So we then get, you know, a little bit of a montage of games going on and we have a moment where New York is playing Montreal. Hollander, what I believe Shane, certainly as he's established a nice

relationship with Scott gives him a little maybe next time we play you can show up. Yeah, I loved how gasped Scott was at the whistle. Yeah, he was taught. I mean, dude, it's 5-1. But that's why Scott's the best, dude. He's busting his ass even when the game is over.

He was gassed. I was like, dude, this game is long over. Yeah. You're fine. He was gassed. But right off of a little bit of a quick snippet of Rosie giving him shit.

I love the Rosie when the boys are coming off. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. That's the Rosie I want, dude. Like,

his pre-game cup speech, I was like, chill, dude. But this one, and also that's act. Like, we would do that. Yeah. I'd say, I'd love you to my teammates.

That was awesome. Incredible. So, Shane gives, I, again, what I believe is a friendly nudge because Shane is like, Scott and I have a good relationship at this point. And Scott says, you're starting to sound like him. Yeah. And you were talking about, right? Yeah. Oh, boy.

Shane does not like that. Shane did not like that. And a fight ensues. Well, that's the problem. A fight doesn't insist. suit. The players, the teammates are holding them back. Yeah. I was like, I kind of want to see what happens when Shane and Scott dropped the gloves. Yeah. I don't know if they would ever drop the gloves after a game. You're right. Like, that would have been a crazy fight. But yeah, like after the game, I think they're just like kind of scrumming it up. But that was intense. That was very intense. And I was kind of like, Shane, God, I mean, poor Shane, dude. I know so I feel like I know Shane so well now. But it's crazy because this, this is a one.

year, right? It only went back four months. Yeah. Like, this is the Olympic year. It must be so frustrating for Shane to hear that because Shane's like, I even heard from this motherfucker in sick, you know, he's like, I'm barely talking to him, dude. Fuck you. Yeah, well, that's, I think that's why he gets fired up. But also, like, I, you know, I can't fucking wait for episode four and beyond because, like, I think that was a great scene to include because there have been so many comments here and there where Shane is almost certainly like Scott is on to me.

So that's a rattling thing here. You're like, what the fuck? Yeah. I didn't even think about it from what, as Chris said, like he hasn't been like spending a lot of time with him because it's been in that. Yeah, yeah, true. There's been nothing. We need to make a timeline.

Yeah, I know. We do get to make like a Charlie Kelly with red string timeline of what's going on, while all the relationships and how they connect. We then see Kip watching this game and watching Matt dust up at home with his dad. Remember guys, episode of goats, Kip's dad. Goat. Goat. What a beauty.

Just loving, amazing dad, supportive dad, love to see that. Makes a lot of sense why Kip is so. So that was great. He wakes up in the morning at his dad's house. He's freaking out. He's looking for his tucks. Kip's dad is like, I've got it dry cleaned. It's hanging in the closet for you.

Amazing. He goes to this event. We get the sense here. We've learned that. Kip is applying to school. Yep. He's incredibly intelligent, artistic, trying to get into school, working all these crazy jobs like the smoothie shop and now like this catering job because he needs the money for

school, etc. Goes to this catering job, shows up late, he's a little flustered, gets his first tray, apologizes to his boy. He's like, I'm fucking so sorry, immediately crashes into some strapping handsome man. Bang. Bang. Unbelievable. Well, how about that bitch in the scene?

What about that fuck was that? Just an ass. New York used to have real waiters. Now they just buy models. Which is like the nicest burn. Like if I fucked up and I was worried about my job and I heard that, I'd be like, well. Thank you. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Appreciate that. Sean, the friend, also a beauty. Another goat. Oh, oh, oh, the guy who hired. Yeah. Like he comes that, comes in and apologizes.

And not only is Sean like, he's like, I can't get fired. He's like, dude, you're not fired. Yeah. I know you need the money. Also, you're my friend. Deep breath in, deep breath out. Here's a kish. They're dry.

Yeah. You're going to be fine. Just another goat. What a great circle that Kip has surrounded himself. Yeah, it's so true. So he comes back out. Scott gives him a wink, dude. Gives him a killer wink.

Again. Scott, what I know about you now, these are crazy moves. I think. Questions. Questions? It's because we know. but at this point

they're throwing and catching vibes that Scott is like Kip knows I'm hitting on. I know people see their eyeballs everywhere. But do you know not because we're watching a show we're not onto them. No one's onto them yet.

Questions. Gotta be careful. Got to be careful, dude. So they chat. Scott invites him to grab a bike, grab some Mexican with him. Also, love Kip's response to that. He was like, would you do like Mexican?

He was like, yeah, I'm not a serial killer. Serial killer callback. Also, appreciation for Mexican cuisine. Pimp callback. That was a move by one of those pips. Dude, I couldn't believe that callback. Yeah, that was awesome. Incredible. But to your point, Balzy, this was, this, I mean, more so than inviting him to the game. Do you want to grab a bite with me after this? At this point, that is Scots. Kip? Yeah, we're doing this. Now, guys, Kip comes out after he's done with the shift. They check out the line at the Mexican joint. The line is around the corner.

Here's my question for you both. Was that his plan all along? I got the sense. It was he knew about the spot and he knew that it was going to be a line and this is going to be his move. Interesting. I think it was his plan all along. Was Scott going to go sit down? Why did you just ask?

I think this is, this is cheeky as well. It's, it's, it's, it's, a, you're not being a dog and going, come back to my place right away. Yeah, I offered, I offered restaurant first. Yep. But that was, I think that was a, I think that was a cheeky. I thought the scene was going to be to let Scott do a flex of like cut the line. You know, he's like, oh, the lines up the door. And he's like, hold on, bro.

I'm Scott Hunter. Yeah. And then he was like, do you want to go upstairs? And I was like, oh, shit. So they go, let's order in. They go to Scott's place. They get in. Kip can't believe how nice the place is.

He's walking around, looking around. In the background of the shot, we see Scott removing his shirt. We get to see those abs for the first time. Thank God. Good God. The man is, like, if I were on Scott's team, I'd be like, are you, fucking kidding me, dude. Relax. Favorite line of the episode.

Bro. From both of them. Again, Scott is so balzy. Drops that shirt and he goes, do you want the full tour now or? And Kip goes, or. I choose or. Yeah. Incredible. That is, guys, that's like, that's all time. That's how you write dialogue. That's just all time, fun, cheek, romantic, hot dialogue.

There was a joke during COVID that was going around Instagram where it'd be like, it was a dude listening to a choice. And it was like, pick one of the following two options. A, you spend the next, you know, the rest of COVID quarantined with your wife and kid. And he goes, B, B. B. This is, yeah. Scott goes, Kip, would you like to. B, B, B, whatever B is.

I want that B. Give me D. D. D. I'll take D. D. D. Skip over me and C. That was fucking awesome. That's an incredible moment. So we get our hookup. Again, consent king. Scott asking if stuff's okay. Frankly, tame hookup as far as episodes one and two, I think. I couldn't tell if it was tamer or if I've just gotten used to it because we're like. fair point. Other hookup scenes were so crazy. Yeah. I was like, have I just been desensitized to how like how spicy these hookup scenes are? Yeah, it's possible. It's possible. It is possible. Also,

for fuck sake, just a couple of hard bodies rolling around. A couple, I'll tell you what, dude, dude, Kip could play hockey. He's got a, he's got a rump on him as well. How is Kip so shredded? Why is everyone in this universe shredded? They're hot dudes. That is gay culture though, too. Yes, it is. Like they, from my experience. experience. In my gay circle, like, guys stay fit. We're in L.A. There's a funny, that's a big thing, too. But he sees Scott with a shirt off, and it's supposed to be like,

wow, like this guy's so shredded. But he's just a shredded. Kip's like, just wait until I pop this puppy off. But we saw it when he was getting ready for the catering event. When he's running around, I was like, God dang. And if I'm Kip's dad, I'm like, God, damn it, relax, son. Making me look like an asshole. You're right, dear. I don't know how they don't start a fire when they're together. It's like two. Two pieces of flint.

Yeah. Just chipping off of each other. The whole apartment building is going to go up. There's a funny, what I was going to try to find is there's a funny picture of like male bodies. And it's like in gay culture. And it's like the dude who you can only see four of his abs. It's like obese. And you're like, correct.

Unbelievable. So, wait, my takeaway from that hookup was it was actually awesome and a great choice by everyone involved in the project. because I legitimately felt the difference in two dudes getting down that it wasn't their first rodeo. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like watching the two kids hook up was genuinely different than watching these two dudes hook up as it would be.

And I was like, that was wonderful. All of the dynamics were totally different. I mean, first of all, I think Kip is our first openly gay character. Oh, true. Yeah, that's correct. That's right. So he's probably a little bit more versed. He's clearly not a, he has like a circle around him

where he's able to, like, communicate things with. Yeah, which was so important to this episode. Oh, my God. So I want to say, too, this fucking episode, as we were talking about, being our favorite episode so far, few times have I seen an episode of television

introduce, more or less, with Scott, to brand new characters, and I know everything about them. Yeah. Like, we're not even halfway through this episode, and I feel like I know both of these human beings like I've known them my entire life. Just brilliant stuff.

So they hook up. Scott wakes up to Kip getting dressed. He's like, I was going to sneak out. You play. Insane. Why? You would leave? Dude, if you banged.

You're out of your mind. Austin Matthews. You're out of your mind. You got Team USA, captain of Team USA just asked me upstairs. And I have the night of my life. And I'm going like this, I got to get out of. I would have my mail forwarded there by. morning, dude.

I would be fucking living there. Are you insane? No, if that's your personality, okay. But I don't think that that, I think it's, again, Kip is just such a gentleman. Like, he's like, this was such an incredible night. Gentlemen, don't leave in the middle of the night, Dan. Unless you are trying to protect your man, dude. Unless you're trying to be respectful and understanding of his situation, which is exactly

what he was doing. He literally says that. He goes, you play later. I don't want to mess up your routine. I was just trying to sneak out and let you sleep. He's a gentleman. And then Scott is like, will you please stay? Lovely.

So fucking lovely. So he stays, they sleep the night, and Scott wakes up and comes out to finding Kip making the blueberry banana smoothie. The roller coaster of emotions this episode is. So like first, fourth, we're riddled with tension, just like heated,

passionate tension. Now this, we are in the honeymoon phase of like just adorable romance. But then the whiplash I got here, he makes it, Scott comes around, picks up Kip, legs wrap around his waist. And Scott then says, can I fuck you? Horny moment, bro.

Horny moment, but I'm gonna say that can I fuck you was so fucking romantic. but also not as horny as the pickup. The pickup made me audibly gasp. I was like sweating with that pickup. Again, these two hard bodies, one of the most just adorably romantic gestures of all time making that smoothie.

And then that pick, I literally went, oh, Scott! Like, I was like, oh my God, damn. I really liked how Kip was like apologizing for all of the things that Scott might have been offended by, like going through his fridge and everything else. I'm like, Kip's such a thoughtful, but also like worrisome character. Yes.

That's kind of nice to see. Like, he worries when he's at the waiter job. He's worried about like everything else. But it's nice to see like everything's kind of coming up Kip. Yes. Everything's kind of working out for him. Sean, agree. I also want to say, sorry, and I know you have thought, I do want to say, and this is a question

for the listeners, I felt that it was a really nice touch. again, I feel like a lot of shared interest with these two. But when he was apologizing, being like, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to snoop, but like, you're very organized. Yeah. I thought that was a nice touch because, again, a lot of my gay friends, very organized and like very meticulous with their setup and all that. And I was like, that was a really nice touch.

And I want to know if that is like, what was a good clock or it's like, no, not all the time. But that was great. That was awesome. My thought watching that scene was that was one of the great moves I've ever seen. Kip. Oh, well, the baking this movie was amazing, but Scott, no, I'm talking about the Scott swoop into Can I Fuck? I was like this, that's the one of the greatest, most dominant plays I've ever seen. I need to add this. Yeah. And then I was like, is this, is that just a guy

thing? No, dude. Like, do you think if I got to break down after, if I scooped a girl up. Think about, and said, can I fuck you? I think she go like this. Holy shit. Or, I think so. Okay, because I want to add it. Think about everything that's happened. Yep. If all of those amazing moments, lovely things and gestures happened absolutely i think but do i need them all did she have to try to sneak out in the middle of the night i've asked her to stay yeah okay well then that's never i think she's got to make the smoothie too many things that's the need up to me scooping that allow the possibility of romance into your life yeah i just want to be able to scoop the scoop and can i fuck you i think that that could totally happen god dude that was hot as hell that was all time i could not believe that

now we have a great conversation at the kitchen island here i think is the most important scene of the show. Ooh. So yeah, it probably is actually. I thought this scene was amazing. So here we get Scott's big request. He's like, hey, I, I love, I, I want you to be here when I get home from practice. I want you to be here when I get home from my game. I've never done this, but I want you to be a part of my life. I'm more excited about you than I have been anything in a long time. But he then gets, Kip gets the explanation from Scott about why he's not out and how, Coming out would be too complicated for so many people that he cares about, people that he takes care of, his family. And I just thought the show needed this moment because it makes so much sense coming from a vet.

Like this guy's a captain of a team. He's been in the league, captain of Team USA. And this show is shining a light on the fact that they're very possibly, if not certainly, gay guys in the NHL and being like, this is why people aren't out. It's too complicated. And the way Scott explains it was beautiful. And again, episode of goats, the way Kip says he'd love to be there when he gets back was fucking chills. Just like the understanding was beautiful. That's why I love Kip and I love these two relationships. So as I talked about the roller coasters of emotions in this episode, we're now in the like, I feel like we're all completely in love with

these two as they are in love with each other. Yeah. I, like, I finished the second episode. It ends on a cliffhanger. Yep. And I wanted to know what was going to happen with our two protagonists. When I realized that this was going to be an episode that wasn't going to include them at all, I was like, oh, I kind of wanted to know what happens. But after going through episode three, I don't really care about our two main protagonists.

Now, I want to see more Kip and Scott. I know. And if, like, if this show doesn't spin off into the Kip and Scott show, I'm going to be devastated. And it's nice to see, I think, like, going through so much drama in the first two episodes, it's nice to see two characters who are, like, actually able to communicate. I know. So, like, actually able to communicate their problems, their feelings, and, like, understand it.

Because I hate when drama derives just from miscommunication. Yeah. It's like, I love it when it's like the communication is there, but the drama is an external factor. Sharp from Sean. Yes. Sharp, sharp analysis there. Like going from the two episodes of just not being able to say what you feel, constant miscommunications to these two just putting their fucking hearts on the table,

putting it in the blender, hitting fray and drinking a blueberry banana smoothie is just incredible. Absolutely incredible. But guys, the direction of that conversation going, I'd love to be here when you get back, cutting to Kip on the couch reading with glasses was the best, like the costume designer hit it out of the part. Like, I've never seen someone look.

more at home. Yeah, I live here now. Yeah. I was like, God, this is incredible. There was one too many serial killer joke callbacks in Kipp's response to Scott's speech. We had the incredible one already. And I was like, well done. And then we went another one here.

And I was like, okay, we didn't need that one. And then he said it again in the same speech. And I was like, we've exhausted the serial killer callbacks. I loved it. I loved the first one. We're done here. Thank you so much. Yeah.

Everything else was perfect. Then we get a nice little montage of the boys just living. Living, hooking up, loving each other, amazing stuff. The extra banana in the shop

was nails. And in this moment, Kip tries to say that Scott is straight and she gives him the girl line again. But just like, we're now in it

of these two just like being together, living together. Then this was my first, ooh, interesting moment. We get a little discussion about art.

Kip wants some art. Scott's like, maybe I should buy some art. Could you use some stuff for the apartment. And Kipp's like, all right, here we go. So they go to this gallery, you suppose. And this part kind of confused me a little bit because they go to this art gallery. They've been out and about.

They've done some stuff. And Scott's like glasses on, cap on. And Kipp's being very understanding. He's like, are you good? Like what's, you know, like how we do in here? And they go in, they look at something. Someone working at the gallery comes up and is like, can I help you out? Are you two looking?

And that was a good line. It was like, are you two looking for something for your home or this or that? And Scott's like, I got to bounce. So he pieces out. Kip goes out really like how, you know, Scott apologizes. He's like, I'm so sorry. I wanted to be able to do that. And Kip, amazing, amazing Kip.

He shows him, gives him the grace to understand and forgive him was just like so lovely. Why do you guys think that the gallery was such a trigger? I was saying that too. It wouldn't be weird to, like, go to an art gallery with your friend. I don't think that that would be an indication that you're a couple. And so it's weird that Scott was like, this is what's going to out me. Like, after, like, the waves and like all the stuff, it felt, I was surprised. So my, asking the listeners, I wonder if in the book, maybe there's something more intense about that, maybe something that we missed.

But I was like, oh, it's weird that this is the one where he's like, shit. Dude, funny you two reacted that way, because I am so one of. with you where I was like, I cannot believe he was down to wave. I cannot believe he was down to wink. And this scene was the scene I'd been waiting for all episode where I'm like, no way would you go to this. Okay. So you did feel. I was like, are you insane? You can't go to this. And then when he went there with his hood on, I was like, you need a bigger disguise. Like you need to have the, the mustache glasses combo thing. You know, you're the guy. Right. Roachal Marks. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, what are you talking to? And I love the.

show for, you had said something like this earlier, Sean, but this was so clearly, here comes the scene where Scott says something so mean about Kip in public to look not gay. And they didn't do that. And then he says the most lovely apology I've ever heard where he's like, that was not, like, Kip's like it's okay. And he's like, it's not okay. And I know it's not okay. I was like, oh my God. King, dude. Absolutely. My heart was melting. But I actually thought it was completely expected. and I and this is like such a testament to the culture so I hate that I'm even saying this but I thought Kip should have gone should have done something like oh I'm his art

cons when she goes are you two looking for something I was like Kipps fucking help your boy out here dude be like oh I'm uh he's obviously famous hockey player I'm just as art consultant and then I wanted Scott to later go you don't have to do that or whatever but I was like that needed to be the trajectory because I completely get why Scott left because she's asking questions like is this for your two joint home? And Kip goes, yeah, we're just browsing. Yeah. Which implies like, yes, this is for my home.

So then Scott runs out and I was like, I'm sorry that this is the way of the world, but that is what would happen. Yeah. And so yeah, I was kind of ready for that. Does the, I suppose you call her an art seller? Does she say for your joint or does she ask? Like, are you buying or are you browsing? I think the key was she says like, are you two?

That was a good line. And he replies with we specifically. I just remember Kip says, saying the word we. Yeah. And I was like, oh, fuck. Scott's about to leave. And then he did.

But yeah. No, like the way they both reacted, incredible. So we then get Kip. He's mailing what we presume is his application to college. He then sees in a bodega something that he wants to get for Scott, grabs him the banana socks. Amazing. Just like so freaking cute, amazing. And then we also get the callback.

Can I fuck you this time, Kip? Dude. And another kind of callback, big windows. Big windows, but they're high. Shade didn't care or Shane did care. Yeah. Scott, don't care, big windows. All good.

Also, wonderful comment section last episode review, where I was like, is you always at top? And people were like, some are both. I think it's a verse. Verse. Verse. Some are verse. Some are sides.

We're learning. I think these guys are verse. Because Scott said, can I fuck you? And then Kip was like, can I fuck you? I think we got verse going. Hell yeah, dude. Which is just fucking beautiful. I like verse.

Me too. Because I'm like, dude. No, I think verse is the way to go. Yeah. Mix it up, baby. I think it'd be fun to be too, like deciding who. Well, also, it would be cool. Like you go into the bedroom every night.

It's almost like a coin flip. I was going to say you should have one. Oh, that'd be cool. You know? Like literally there's just a coin next to the bed. And you're like, boom. You get a custom coin. You get a custom coin with two, your faces.

So now. Maybe your butts. As cute. It's just each of your butts. Yeah. And you're like, who's fun is that? But you'd know by that. You'd be like, that's God.

I can pick that butt out of a lineup of a thousand, dude. Again, if we're Rosie's butt, we need a big coin. Yeah. We need one of those novelty comedy coin. So even as cute as the banana socks are, this is the new loop in the roller coaster of this episode. We're now in kind of the like, okay, things are getting complicated. And we get that with Elena has a conversation where she calls Kip out for being in love.

And he's like, I'm in love. They're watching the game. He's like, I've never been happier. I know it's complicated. We see him talking to his dad. there's so much love there he's waiting for the college application he's like I haven't seen you in a while

but you know like yeah I miss you and we're starting to feel the tension of like Kips being like damn like this is intense so he talks to or he gets a text from Scott and Scott's like there's something waiting in the closet for you he goes home opens the closet there's a tucks there waiting for him I was certain he was going to open the closet

and it was going to be just space cleared out being like that's lovely like move in that's way sooner Dude, I thought that that was about, I was genuinely, guys, like I was, my knuckles were clenched because I was like, that is going to be a haymaker because you could kind of feel where this train was going of like, they're going to have to have this car. And I was like, if this fucking comes on the heels of scopping, like, move in with me, I was about to die. But although, like, they're kind of like living together already. The implication is that he's like, he'll be living there. His dad hasn't seen him.

But like, I'm not sure if all of his stuff is there. So I thought that was going to be like this haymaker gesture. but it's the it's the tuxedo. I have something to say about that. Okay. He took a long time to look in the closet. He took, I wrote that down too, Chris. I can't believe he waited this long to go in the closet.

Dude, he got a text. I was like, there's a surprise in the closet I would go there immediately, especially after all the serial killer talk, it could be someone's skin. Yeah. He got a text leaving the store, I think. Yeah. I was surprised for you in the closet. And then he cut to him like on the couch, like looking at the text again or something.

I'm like, you, the first thing you did was he walked to the house. Maybe we can assume he was talking to his dad when he got up. I was like, holy shit. And then empty space is amazing. I thought it was going to be the art piece. Oh, that would have been nice too. And I was going to be like, oh. I was actually kind of bummed when it was the tux, honestly.

I was like, a tux. Well, you have a million tuxes. This is bullshit. But they're at this gala event. Scott and Elena meet. But Scott is cool about Elena knowing. Kipps like she found out and like, I had to tell something. He's like, yeah, that's cool.

They dance and Elena gives Scott a speech about keeping Kip a secret. And she's like, dude, Kip is amazing. He's brilliant and he deserves all the love in the world. And at first, I was like, overstepping here a little bit, Elena. Like, Kit literally just told you that he's in love and the happiest he's ever been. This could blow everything up. But then she hit Scott with the, and so do you. And I was like, episode of goats.

Dude, I was so ready to be like, Elena, chill. No, I didn't like that. I didn't like that. Which I get. She's like, she's like, Kip is miserable. Oh, dude, I didn't like that line either. That's a specific line. I was like, no, he isn't.

That's why, like, at the beginning, I was like, Carolina, come on. I'm like, it's been two months. Yeah. You're asking somebody to come out after they've been closeted for so long. And I know that it's like tough for Kip, obviously. But I'm like, Kip also got the golden ticket here. Yeah, yeah.

He's in the penthouse, everything he could ever want with this absolute stud. I'm like, I think... But Kips is stud too. Kips is stud too. I'm like, I just don't think that when you're being like protective of somebody that you necessarily need to antagonize the other person. Yeah. I think that there's a way of doing it that I didn't appreciate how Elena was doing it. And you know what, Sean?

I hear that. Like, for me, she landed the plane a little bit or a lot of bit for me personally with the and so do you. Because it was like that, that so do you meant a lot. Like a lot of different things. I wasn't even expecting it. It almost surprised me because the rest of her speech was so hard.

I agree. I have something about this, but I'll save it for a discussion at the end. Yeah, we're wrapping up here. But in that scene, I couldn't believe when she goes, you know, she goes, I'll go get drinks and.

Yeah. Kipp. Oh, his name's Chris, by the way. Yeah. She goes to speak. We might start calling you Kip. I cannot believe that they, Kip and Scott were spy talking in that scene.

I was like, talk normally. Dude, why are you two spy talking? talking you look weird as fuck right that too yeah literally just speak you're like at the you're like hello this is a person at the gala i'm talking to i thought it was more because it was such an intense conversation they couldn't if they had looked eye to eye it would have been too intense i'll buy that they would have started crying yes but i think if i saw two people spot talking at the gal i'd be like something something's a drug deal going on over here what that is going on and this is scott's event like who the fuck uh so here kip invites

Scott to come to his birthday's coming up. He wants him to come to King Fisher. King Fisher is the name of the game. Yep. And he's like, you can just come, stop by, say hi as my friend. It would mean a lot. And Scott's like, I can't do that. I'm so sorry. And then he also gives him, he's like, hey, like, I'm in this with you. In a few years, I can come out and we can have a normal life. But like, it's going to take a while. And Kip, again, the goat is like, dude, this is back at the place. And he's like, I totally get it and I get when you made your speech you're protecting your family

but I have a family too I miss my dad to literally tears very good communication on both sides incredible too they just say and this is how every relationship should be just say how you fucking feel

both these guys have been so reasonable and respectful yes like it's actually and Chris this is such a great example of in TV and film you can do this

and everything can be great still you don't need all of this oh I don't know how to communicate I don't know how to speak speak, there's just as good of drama and just as good of emotions if you just say how you fucking feel. Because Scott planned surf and turf. It's not like, I'm not doing anything for your birthday.

He's like, I wanted to do something to do. It's unbelievable. So Kip is like, dude, I love you. They both say I love you, which I was like, oh, me too. That was a great one. That was a great L bomb. So smooth. But he says he misses his family, misses his dad, and he heads home.

We then cut back to hearing Scott's story of how when he was 12, his parents died, got hit by a drunk driver. He was taken in by this presumably church or charity and he has gotten involved to this charity because they gave him hockey and they gave him a family. Amazing. The end of the episode, two, two moments, three moments actually. Kip gets home. His dad has mail for him and he's like, he feels pretty big implication that he's gotten into school. And great subtle acting by Kip's dad

there of he's being a little like not as lovey because he's Like, fucking A man, where you been? Yeah. Then he sees Kip is sad. They forget about the male. All he's worried about is taking care of his son. His boy. Incredible.

Truly incredible. We then see Scott watching Kip at the Kingfisher. Like, catch me if you can, Vance. Like, he's just like, he showed up in his own way. In the groucho, in the TV. In his art gallery. Yeah, he's like, there's a creepy guy. But then we flashed to Sochi.

We're now now back to the. timeline of the show, Scott's still wearing his banana socks. Gold medal game. Cute as hell. End of episode three. Did Canada win? I can't remember if they said that. I don't know.

I don't remember, actually. He says he's like, hey, it's a gold medal game. So USA's in the gold medal game. Yeah. That'd be cool if we got a retroactive gold medal. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, because we came fourth in 2014, wasn't it? Yeah.

Yeah. I'm not good. So we'll get into our awards and final thoughts, but I think you had one thing to say first. Yes. the because I said Sean I was like I left that up you guys had primed me that was so sick and I left that episode kind of reeling in a lot of ways where I loved the ep but it was there was so much depth so much more depth than that episode than the other two by my miles yeah but I was also missing like the boys like my lighthearted boys yeah it was like so fun watching them navigate and like be funny and mean to each other whatever um and I like Christ there like there was almost sadder no the God the God The ending of this one was so sad, too. Dude. I was not prepared for how much this show is going to break. And I don't know if you guys have been seeing the comments on the YouTube.

People are like, wait for episode four boys. You think your hearts are broken now. And I was like, fuck me. Dude. The fuck. But to go back to the Elena speech and just in general, and I think obviously I skew towards, like I'm biased towards the hockey player in this story, right? It's like we're navigating this story.

And a ton of fans are watching the show, not as a straight hockey player, right? Sure. It is hard. I think, take right now, this is 2014, right? But take right now, the waves, the ripple effects, if an NHL player right now, a star was like this. I'm openly gay, by the way, this is my boyfriend, would be insane. Oh, it would be wild. How it would ripple through the league, the world, the community, everything.

And I just, sometimes I'm like, man, that. is a massive thing that you are asking of Scott, like in this point. Like, not only is it just a person who's closeted. And she's like, please, like, do this for him. He wants to be shown off and you deserve it too. I'm like, this is an outrageous act. You would be jeopardizing his career, like his entire life. Yeah.

And I sometimes think that's not appreciated enough in this. Where, like, in this drama, they're like, come on, Scott. And I'm like, no, dude. I actually watch a show being like, he literally can't. You're asking him something he literally cannot do. you're stealing one of my awards here. Okay, sorry, we can go right into awards then. Let's get into two horned up.

Chris, why don't you start? Okay, I had a few in this episode. It was crazy. I guess I have to, since I'm going first, I'll just do the carrying, the pickup, can I fuck you? Like, I literally was like, oh, my God, dude. That was incredible moment. That's incredible game.

I'll go, Sean, because that was mine. The first pickup after the banana blueberry banana smoothie. Holy shit. I'm not kidding you guys. I audibly shouted. Yeah. I was like, oh, Scott. I was like, yeah.

That was hot. Actually, you go because I don't want to say this in case it's yours, but I thought you're going to say something else. What's yours? Maybe not what you're expecting, but I really liked the or the or I choose or. Dude, that line was so spicy. I thought you were going to say that. That was horny. That whole interaction.

Yeah, yeah. You want the full tour? Yeah, with the shirt off again. Oh, my God. I choose or. I choose or was really horny. I also flagged the shirt in the first seat. Like him just walking in with this shirt.

I was like, he's a sweaty guy, dude. He's in a lead outfit. I loved that, dude. My, I don't even know what to do here. My, what are we doing here? I have one that you were going to love. Oh, really? Yeah.

My, what are we doing here? They're so minimal because I thought this episode was just fantastic. I mentioned it. I did love the newspaper. I felt that the newspaper was just like, it's 2014 like we were already on our phones and shit my okay and I might have forgotten something so I need to ask

and maybe you guys remember when he goes hey I come to perfect my game so I have the same smoothie yeah Kip goes are you crazy superstitious or there's one scene where he's asking about crazy superstitions Scott starts listing his do you remember what they are

I don't quite remember all of them okay me neither and I should have I was watching it was like two in the morning I was trying to I should have gone back. Because something happens at the very end of the episode that is either the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen or a listed superstition. The socks over the banana socks? He puts socks over, yeah, but it's beyond that. Oh.

And I thought you were going to fucking lose your shit. I couldn't believe I didn't have a text from you. Do you know what I'm going to say? No, what is it? Dude, he puts his, he has the banana socks on and he's like, goal middle game dude. And I was like, oh, cool. And he puts his right sock on and then he pulls his left sock on. And that's the last shot of the thing, I think, or one of them.

and he is wearing a sock with an R right on his left foot, which you fucking hate. Oh my gosh, I didn't clock that. And I was like, did you just put the right sock on your left foot? And I can't remember before the comments kill me. Fuck.

I can't remember if at the beginning he goes, I'm not that bad. I wear opposite sock. If he does, incredible, incredible shot and intention to detail. If he doesn't say that at the beginning, then you need to be shot into the sun.

Disagree. Disagree. Because what if? And he says, When something goes well for him, he needs to do it. What if one game he accidentally put them on the wrong foot and he played great? But I would like to know that before I zoom in on the R. Sure.

There was a... And what they might have. They might have. I just can't remember. I can't remember. It's specifically zoomed in on the R or just like on the shot. It's on the sock. He's like pulling his sock over and you can see the R on his left foot.

And I was like, oh no. Yeah. Comments. Guys, let us know if that's mentioned because I don't, I didn't clock that. My other one in case that was a great moment. Well, wait, let John go. Well, this, oh, yeah, yeah, fair. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it wasn't a lot of hockey. Yeah, there wasn't a lot to be upset about it. There wasn't a lot to be upset about it all, except for Scott being so out of breath while everyone else looks like they just came back from lunch. It looked like that was a scene implying that Scott can't hang anymore. Yeah, it was so out of breath in a 5-1 loss. I was like, getting a little bit too old.

But he's only like 20. Yeah, I think he's young. Yeah, you're right. He's young. He's young. I know it's Kip's 26th birthday. Yeah. And he doesn't look too much older.

No, no. Scott is young. Like, he's a vet, but he's not. He ain't old. Yeah. Him being so bad on the road was, like, you know, I was joke about it. They make people too good just to show they're good. He hasn't scored two goals in the road.

They were trying to show that, like, Scott kept so much away from New York. Scott is horrible. I was like, all right. He's fine. He's fucking at all. He's a team captain. Okay. And then my, do I love this?

Yep. Was what you were alluding to and what I made a point to mention was my favorite part, was Scott's ex of why he can't come out. Again, I thought it was so important to the show, so important to this whole story and world, and it was so beautifully done. The piece of intense conversation in this episode was perfect. Magnificent. Yep. The way everything Scott said and the way Kip took it in and the way he responded, just incredible.

I, well, I really liked Kip's dad. Oh, Sean. He might be my favorite character in the show. I want to see more. Sean's dad. I'm fearful that we won't see more, but I want to see a lot more. Utterly brilliant. But yeah, I think that, again, it's like two episodes in a row.

The endings just hit so hard. Haymakers, man. Yeah. Fucking heartbreaking haymakers at the end of these fucking episodes. Mine was, this is very esoteric one, but it was in that moment. And I've just made my speech about how I feel like what they're asking of Scott is very hard. In that scene post-gala with the old fashions, both dudes stood firm on what they believed they need in this moment in their lives. And I'm not, like, I wish they didn't need some of those things.

I wish Scott could just come out. But Scott was like, I can't, dude, but I love you and like, I will do things for you. And I, and I'm presenting a plan. I'm not just going like, it'll work out. Like, he's like, dude, this is what I need. please be with me. And then Kip also going, I need more than that to feel,

you know, vindicated and validated in my life. So I'm going to go, I'm going to leave and see my family. You know, I was like, oh, man, no one caved.

No one, no one caved and no one reacted meanly. Yeah. It was just like, we both love each other and this is what we need and they're not aligned right now. I know.

And I was like, oh my God. What do you guys think is going to happen? Do you think that they're going to have to break up because the timeline's too long for Kip? Or do you think that it's going, it's going to force Scott to come out and deal with whatever ramifications. Dude, I wrote...

I think both, but I think down the line. I think we're going to see Kipp in school. Again, I don't even want to say this, because I will also say this guys in the comments. Try not to spoil us. No, spoilers. There have been a couple spoilers in the comments, and I love you and I love your passion. But we're, again, we didn't read the books and we're watching these as we review. So, don't spoilers.

But I think that... they're going to have to separate for a bit. I think Kip's going to go to school. Yeah, because I bet it's far. Like they brought up Boston. Remember he's like, I know we hate Boston? And I was like, oh, fuck. I bet he's like, I go to school in Boston.

And then maybe Scott's on the road and sees him wherever he is on the, oh my God. Because he's playing Rosenoff in Boston. Fuck. Anyway. Is this a cautionary tale for for Shane and Rosie? Where even if they are super, super communicative and super, super healthy, they still need to be honest with themselves in the public eye for them to be truly happy. I think so, especially Shane.

I think he's going to be like, this cannot be, dude. You know, can you fucking relax this episode? This guy's emotional compasses is point in north. I also hadn't even thought of this. If this flashes, like when we go, I was also dying, thinking about us going, like, is this, was this written in 2009? And I'm like, did she predict the Sochi Olympics? It never occurred to us that I'm like, we're so fucking dumb. We're like, I think they wrote this in 2008.

She's like, yeah, they're like, I'm so cheap. Black mold, black mold. Like, whoa, dude, that's amazing. But it occurred to me where I was like, oh, if she started it in 08 written in 2019, she probably brings it to 2019. Like, I bet it goes all the way that far. So I was like, holy fuck, dude. Now, like, we're going to have like full on adult Shane and Rosie.

And that's going to be a fascinating. Well, you know, I'm so excited to see that. Maybe Kip and. And Scott, after Scott comes out of the MLH. Yeah. And they become out that will change. What a sick prediction. That would be awesome.

Scott retired. We get far enough in the timeline that Scott retires, even though I think he is probably too young. But if we got far enough in the timeline that Scott retired and came out. Yeah. Yeah. And then it gave them the confidence to do it. That'd be actually a sick ending.

Because some of these books, I know Ice Breakers like flashes way forward. I think Puckt goes super far. So some of these books from my experience. have like very big jump endings to get to put a bow on it. So I'm fucking fired up, dude. It's unbelievable. That folks is our review of episode three of heated rivalry. If you haven't figured out now, our hearts are so invested in this show. It's unbelievable. You can catch episode four review. Top of next week. We're going to keep riding this train with you, babes. It's unbelievable.