Empty Netters Podcast - BONUS: Heated Rivalry Episode 4 Review

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

The kids are back and we have a first name drop. REPEAT. We have a first name drop. But unfortunately, it doesn't last because it they have entered their "lashing out" era. Flaunting curvy girls in each other's face. Please make it stop. Please take notes from "SKIP" and communicate! The guys break down these EXPLOSIVE scenes and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, babes, we are back. We are horned up, and we are going deep. That was a long one into episode four of heated rivalry. I will say right off the bat, a lot of you beauties in the comments, all of the followers and listeners were telling us, if our hearts were broken after episode three, just wait until episode four. And I've got to say, not as heartbreaking for me,

but the drama was through the roof to the stratosphere, The setup and the intensity of what's to come has me bricked to high heaven, folks. You're going to see the table popping up. Yeah, the computer's going to be bouncing. But, Dan, I got to take it a step further or further. And I'm sorry because, Sean, we haven't chaddy. I don't know if you agree. But every heated rivalry fan out there, are you outside of your minds that you said I was going to be more heartbroken after ep 4 than F2?

did we even kiss into the two dudes just like banging whoever they want and like lashing out a little bit? Amazing episode, I have so much to say, but are you outside of your minds that you thought that was more sad than the episode two ending? But they, I will, again, we're going to get into it. We're going to go through the whole episode like we do. I think they mean the, Sean and I were talking a moment ago. We are on a crash course here. Oh, yeah. The fan base knows, like, there is heartbreak in this episode, and we will get into it.

So, without further ado, boys, let's jump right in. We are back on the Shane and Elya storyline train, and we start off with Boston beating down Montreal. Just an absolute beat down. We're seeing these boys in their careers going head to head again, and then we jump to the summer. And in the summer, we get flashes of both of their lives. We've got Elia running and training in the summer. Shane running and training in the summer as well. But Elia, partying in Russia, doing his thing, being promiscuous, not caring,

or not, sorry, not caring, but just being himself, drinking, hanging out. Then we get Shane just knocking out endorsement deals, doing shoots, being a pro. The contrast of these two. Sean, I know you're going to be on my side on this. And please, we need that someone to do the timeline because I was pretty confused. But dude, we left them at awards, right? Like they meet at awards and he's like, going to bang in the bathroom. Just kidding.

Let's bang at the hotel into elevator, into we didn't even kiss. Did he send that text on or did he just type it and not send it? He typed out, we didn't even kiss and he backspaced really, really slowly for dramatic. Okay, so he didn't send that. He didn't send it. Okay. Because we jump right into this, which became a funny recurring, like, have a good summer, or like, don't work too hard or whatever.

Like, that became a funny bit in this episode. Yeah. But I thought the didn't even kiss text was sent and left on red. And the first response was like, have a good summer. And it was like, bro, you need to fucking answer that. Jesus Christ. He hits him, he hits him with a hags. Hits him with a hags after.

Dude, did it, W, D-E-K, and he goes, hags, dude, we didn't even kiss. How about a hags on your head? Fuck you. All right, that makes you feel better because I was shook about that. Okay, yeah, yes, Dan. The friendliness of the text going back and forth, it is, we do need to make a timeline, because I'm trying to figure out on where they did leave off before this in what is chronologically the most recent update.

The game through me. Yeah, because that would imply, because they, we let me. left them at awards season over. The game implied, like, that was the new season, and then we got immediately summer, and I was like, was that one game the whole year? I think it was just, no, I think it was maybe just a flash of, like, the last time they played each other before.

Remember these guys? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just getting us back. Dude, this is what we've learned, right? There needs to be a little prep before we start getting into it. They were warming us up, getting the engines going, getting us ready. These montages are great for the prep.

I mean, first of all, the music in the series so far just keeps getting better and better. Yes, it does. This episode alone has a fantastic soundtrack. But the montage, the editing on the montage, I loved when they're getting slammed into the boards and it's cutting to them just railing. Oh, yeah, that was awesome. Sean.

So right about to say, so we see them training and right off the bat in this episode, what brilliant contrast of the way that these two are different, both in the way they spend their free time in the summer while they're training, the way they kind of hang out, and then, you know, what their priorities are. That's fantastic. And then, yeah, we flashed to the new season. Sean, perfect. Just, like, smash it into the boards into hard fucking guys.

This might have been, that first cut to them hooking up, that might have been the hot most intense, or maybe not most intense, but, like, hardest, hottest sex of the series so far. Like that, we got shower blowies. We've got, like, you know, hard domination going on from behind. This was hot stuff. Getting more comfortable with each other, for sure. And I did want to say too, Dan, I'm still going to call him Rosie.

You sounded like such an analyst. Yeah, they're more comfortable. You can see the chemistry. The chemistry's building between these two. The chemi. The chemi is there. Yeah. Yep.

The Rosie, I'm still going to call him Rosie, even though we now have a rose. But his summers look gas. Dude, I look at Shade Summers, and I'm like, boo. Just like endorsement shoots, training. Dude, Ilya's in his bag. having the all-time summer. Rosie is the definition of work-hard, play-hard.

And I really, really like it. I really, really like it. But guys, we flash forward, and Halsey's winning the cup. We get a Montreal Cup. Unbelievable. And right then and there, I was like, oh, here,

because people told us to get ready for the whiplash of how hard they rip through this series. I was not ready. I was not ready, because we're just getting seasons here. But I love it, because it's like we're getting

fucking credit. to Rachel Reed. We're getting their careers, you know what I mean? Like, not just a flash of a season. So we get Shane winning the cup, Montreal lifting the cup, unbelievable, then bang. Summer 2015 training. Did you have anything there, Dan, though? I thought you might flag this, because I did. And I'm actually, I thought it was a cool character study. I thought it was great acting and cool character study. When Shane, when the first time they show Shane win that cup, it cuts to Rosie on his couch. And he, alone. Yes, but like, the cheekiest little grin. And I was like, God, that's awesome.

He's genuinely pumped for his dog. And I love that from a story standpoint and an acting standpoint, but it was cool that Shane was like upset. You're not upset, but just like Shane, all the emotions when. I, yeah, you know. I disagree. I talked about like that was my biggest thing of like the master class of acting of Shane. I don't think he was upset at all. I think there was an element of competitive jealousy.

Yeah. But I don't think he was upset. And in fact, like he lets out an emotion. emotional smirk when he's watching Rosie lift the cup. This one was just like... And Rosie already had one, so it's easy to be just happy because you already won. Well, no, no. I'm talking about Shane's reaction from episode whatever.

Like, he was like... I was saying you're right, because Rosie got the free pass to be like, I can just smile because I already won. Yeah, I've already won. We have in that same montage, we have Rosie alone smiling watching the TV. He's clearly, you know, he's clearly supporting his boy. And then in the same montage later, we have him with the group of people watching the TV and Spedlana's there and somewhere and he's like that should have been me

you know he's like faking being upset about it but we know from his interaction when he was alone that he's like pretty that was sick dude great call yeah great call 100% so yeah in 2015 we're now training again elia hooking up with a new russian girl here he's hanging out with spetlana as always the number one our ride or die homie but we're now like getting into big time promiscuous rosy here feel like he's kind of all over the place Shane locked in, as always, doing more and more deals. Then we get a new season. They're hooking up again.

And we're now in this pattern here. It's like these guys go back home or, you know, I imagine Shane is maybe in Ottawa in those training scenes. But we get summer, they're training, they're getting ready. Season, when they play, they meet up. The romance is back. They're hooking up. We've got a pattern. And then that leads to back-to-back, baby.

Shane wins the cup again. Did it bother... I have a question for the group about that montage. Did it bother you guys that their relationship didn't... Presumably isn't progressing at all out of that pattern, which it was pre-awards, pre-that-we didn't even kiss text. Like, I just kind of thought where we left them, there might be like a conversation somewhere over the next two years.

But it seems like, no, we just fuck when we're in each other cities. That's it. Well, they're definitely in a whole... pattern, but I think it did progress in that they're now like more supportive and more kind of, like, you know, friendly with each other. They're less kind of standoffish with each other about their sexuality. But like, there's a point in it when you see when the after Halls wins the cup, everyone's in the locker room, spraying champagne everywhere, and he's just on his phone. So now it's like, it feels like Shane now cares more about the relationship with Rosie than he does about

his career at this point. So it's kind of like the, I think it has progressed. in a way. It can't progress in the way you'd want a relationship to because the fact that they're both closeted. Fucking sharp, yet again, Sean. So, Chris, didn't bother me at all. I completely agree with Sean. To me, the turning

point was, I think there's both progression and both understanding in their relationship. I think when Rosie won the cup and then they're at awards, they hook up and then he doesn't send that we didn't even kiss, the deleting of the we didn't even kiss, for me,

was metaphorically Sean or Shane going this is what this is we we'll hook we have we have an appreciation for each other we have a connection to each other we'll hook up when we can but we're professionals he just want a fucking a cup I got to win a cup we're going to do this when we do this but I can't get too invested I think that was truly a moment of Shane going I cannot get to invested and every time they're together as we see he does get a little connected but like this is almost like a business deal at this point which is why this episode so intense and so emotional. So we get the back-to-back cups.

Now we're summer 2016. More training, more flirty texts. There were some haymaker texts in there. I don't know if you wrote any of those down, but there were a couple good ones. Dude, I think this was that scene. And Dan, you flagged this. There's another funny one later,

which I'll let you get to. But there's a few moments where I'm surprised what they do make real from the hockey world and what they don't. So, for example, they do make Sochi real. But then they, it's the major, is it MLH, Major League Hockey Is that what it's called?

Yeah, yeah, MLH, I believe. Major League hockey. So then in this, they're like, Halsey wins back to back, and they go, first time someone's won back to back since Chicago in the 90s. And Sean Pitt won back to back in the 90s in the NHL. And I was like, why didn't they just say Pitt? You know, like, this funny, like, what's real and what isn't in history.

It's interesting. You bring that up because someone in the comments asked, do we think that Rosie was doping in 2020, 2014? That is an awesome comment. But by accident, you know, like he didn't know. He didn't know what was going on. Like somebody's on, yeah.

He's on the gas. He's on the gas. He's going to do anything you give them. Yeah, exactly. But, Dan, this was the text. She goes like, I'm going to win the cup again. Halsey says that, I think. And Rosie goes, only cup, the only cup is the one I'll take off you with my mouth.

Yep. That one was so good because I was like, what cup are we taught? Like, is he literally talking about his hockey jock? I think so. I think he's literally going to peel it out of his jock strap. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, Daddy's... God, that's fucking hot as shit.

Can you believe that, dude? That had me going on. All right, so some of the listeners who, you know, maybe don't play hockey, have never played hockey. Your cup is inside, like, a spandex jock more often than not. There are some guys who still wear the old short jock or even just the straight-up cup. But either way to take a cup off with your mouth, that is, that's hard work. Also probably smells pretty bad. Oh, yeah.

But, Sean, in that setting, probably smells kind of good. Like you want that funk. Like if you guys are horned up, that's a funk that you want. That's intense. He's like play first. Play first. Then I'll take it off. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's good shit. So we got the training, the flirty text, the haymakers like that. But we also get a little nudge here. It looks like Elya's dad is sick. Ely is helping getting some pills set up for him. He's trying to take care of them. And this is where we see those fractures in the sort of tough guy exterior of Elyer. Of Elya.

There's a heart back there, dude. Like, he wants the love of his dad. He wants the lack of pressure. He wants his family to be a unit. He wants the love of Shane. But clearly there's things going on that make him kind of have to put up this exterior. So he's trying to help. He's doing the best he can.

Meanwhile, Shane, what's Shane doing, guys? Locking down more deals. This guy. Shane Dad screen time. I really like Shane Dad screen time. Yep. Yep. But, like, this guy is a pro.

Like, where, I mean, he's just like, he's constantly doing it. But we kind of get an end to the montage here. And now we get a cool moment. with Hayden. Shane's best butt on the team. I believe he's the goalie. So we're talking with... I think so.

From what I remember, I think this is... And guys, help us in the comments. I'm pretty sure this is the... In the locker room, he's the guy who invites him over for dinner. I'm pretty sure he's the goal of the team. So this is boy Hayden on the team. They're talking.

He's got his fourth kid on the way. And now he's kind of asking, he's like, what are you up to, fucking star? Like, what's going on? They talk about a Jessica, Shane's ex. And then Hayden tries to set him up with a new girl.

These little girls run up to him, ask for a picture. They don't even recognize Hayden, fucking brutal stuff. But we get these moments here of like Shane is still, you know, he's doing the act. He's playing the part that he needs to play to protect himself and what he thinks he needs to do. And we also get to see this great relationship with him and a teammate. And, you know, it's just like another one of these moments where we're like, fuck, man, like this kid is just like he's constantly on guard. on edge, even with his best friend on the team.

Dude, what I liked here is, I have one thing I loved here, and then one thing I cannot wait to bring up to you guys. The thing I loved is this is exactly, maybe not as much the setup, like, oh, you should meet my friend. You know, doesn't he say, like, my wife has a friend or something that you get to meet? I think there's less of that in hockey culture. Like, oh, you should meet my wife's friend, but there is a ton of, like, who are you banging?

You know, like the boys are always swapping stories like that in the locker room. So I was actually really excited to see that dynamic appear in this way in this episode. Because I was like, that would happen, by the way. You can't be Shane Hollander and just be like never seen with a girl and be single. And none of the boys would say anything. They would be like, dude, who are you hooking up with? That would be a common thing. So I was like, I was very into this story beat here.

Dude, like you were a back-to-back cup winning captain star Montreal, you know, just buzzing. You would be a hot commodity in my mom. Montreal. So yeah, absolutely. I thought that was great stuff of like we're finally getting a teammate being like, brother. Are you dipping your wick and who are you dipping it in? Yeah. And how hot is it, dude. So dude, here's the first instance of something that I am, I cannot believe what was happening. Hayden says, like they're talking about happy wife, happy life type combo. They're out and he does the baby hold thing and then they're like walking back and he makes some comment like, I just got to keep my wife happy. And do either of you remember what he says,

like how he ends that conversation? I'm not sure. It's a nothing throwaway line. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not surprised at all. He says something like as long as I keep or he goes, all she has to do to keep me happy is cook dinners and keep the house well stocked with ginger rail. And I was like, that was crazy, dude. Like, I can't believe that he said that. So that, that was a line for Shane because like Shane loves, we've established Shane loves ginger ale. Yeah. Because he doesn't drink alcohol. Okay. Not during the season. I'll leave it. I'll leave it. Correct. I'll leave it there. I'll leave it there. Okay. So that just, we're going to flag that house stocked with ginger ale because Shane doesn't drink during the season. Okay,

continue. Yeah. By the way, just love that he loves ginger ale. It's so awesome. It's insane. An elite drink. So in contrast with that, we then get, we see Elya in Russia, and he's kind of watching a dock on his couch, like some highlight player preview on Shane, and he's talking about his new, his lakehouse home. I think it's, is it in Ottawa?

I think that one, maybe, I'm not sure. But we're seeing real estate mogul Shane, and we've been told by the book readers that, like, Shane's real estate stuff is big, which is cool. It was cool to see a little snippet of that. And he and Svetlan are about to head out to the clubs, and then she starts asking about his dating life.

And, you know, he's very open with her, but kind of brushes it off. But again, now we're just seeing the contrast again of the both of them and, like, how they're responding to those types of questions, what they're up to and what they're doing. So then we cut to... I have a deeply growing obsession with Svetlana. I just putting that out there. Yeah.

Like, she's unbelievable. It is becoming a real problem for me moving forward. I'm not even, like, we're in deep, deep-seated celebrity crush situation, Hall Pass situation. It's, yeah, I don't know what to do about it. The character is just... That cocktail dress or whatever she's wearing. That's what I'm saying.

Or before she goes out and, yeah. It's like, the fuck is going on right now. If you write this episode, there's a lot of good Spetlana. Yes. Yes. A lot of great Spetlana fits, but also on top of that, man, just like she is so right or die. Like it's, you know, it's unbelievable. Dude, nose ball.

She's unbelievable. She's unbelievable. So then we jump to we've got Montreal on the road. And they're in Boston. And Shane and Hayden are in a hotel room together. Which, first of all, Montreal Metros. We can't get a single hotel room for your back-to-back captain. Two-time. Two-time. Two-time. Tadley Cup champ. Multiple MVP students, he's got a roommate.

Like, it looked like there might have been a conjoining situation there, but either way. Like, I need this guy in his own room. They're all so worried about getting outed and not being a scandal, yet they're sharing hotel rooms. So true, dude. Eight years into their career. I'd be like, I need my own room. Trust me. Anything could happen tonight.

So we also get Hayden there. He's been like, you're going to go meet Lily. So, like, he's like, I've seen your text, dude. You know, and like, we get that same contrast with Elia as well. So Shane, you know, gets like a little defensive here. He's like, dude, it's fine, man. Like, go fucking have sex or don't. I don't care.

Also, goat, hate it. Like, just a good fucking friend. You love that. But just another moment here. Hotel room jerk, so authentic, by the way. Yeah. For the non-hockey fans in the chat. Yeah.

The hotel room jerk on the road for the boys is. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, that's correct. Shane's like, go fuck yourself. And he's like, I probably will. I sure will. Also, I don't know if you guys have noticed. Go fuck yourself is Shane's Expelliarmus.

Like, that is his goat. to whenever he's flustered and insulted, he just goes, go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself, Rosenoff. Fuck yourself. Hayden, it's great. I love it. It's like, it's just building his personality.

It's so good. So he bounces and, of course, goes to Elia's place. We got to get this out of the way. I need to know where this fucking house is. Because I assure you it's not in Boston. But that's fine. A lot of the boys in Boston live outside in the suburb. but this is the most beautiful house and beautiful, like, tucked away in the woods suburb I've ever seen.

In the forest. I need to know where it is because I need to tell everyone who lives in and around Boston that this is the place to be because that house was gas. And it has to be really secluded because Shane doesn't make any qualms about it being made out of glass. Completely glass house. Completely glass house. He's like, oh, not here on the rooftop of this metropolis city, but he's like, yeah, sure. So I'm guessing you're like a good 20 minute drive from your neighbor. Dude, there better have been a big gate outside, Sean.

Sean, we're not always watching together, and Dan and I were watching this up together. And I wrote down, where the fuck is Rosie's house? And then after like two minutes, Dan looks up and he goes, where is this house supposed to be? And I was like, dude, I said the same thing. I need, I need a pin drop because that place is unbelievable. But yeah, at this point, Sean, I feel like Jacob Tierney is fucking with us with the amount of windows in all of these amazing places after it was brought up as an issue. It's constant

It's constant But so he gets to Ilya's house And we get guys We get some Tight sex here Like that That was to me Shane

On top of Elia Riding him But presumably being the bottom In that situation Dude dude Yes Which Power bottom

That was That was some power bottom stuff Dude So I had asked about missionary to the chat. And then they were like, yeah, of course you can do missionary. So when this cut to it, initially I saw Shane on top and I was like, oh, hell yes, dude, Shane doing missionary. And then closer examination, I was like, I think he actually is. I think that's cowgirl or cowboy.

I think that's cowboy. Yeah, that was cowboy. It was frontal cowboy. Frontal cowboy into missionary. The role that was executed so nicely. That was so fun. I've made that transition, but never that smoothly. Like the cowboy into missionary, boom, like 180.

That was expert level, dude. I got to do some reps at that. Boys, boys, there are a couple of professional athletes. Like, do we expect anything else? Give me a break. So true. Their hip, their hip flexibility and their core strength out of control. But yeah, really, really hot, tight sex.

Little afternoon delight for the fellas. You love to see it. Yeah, it's like the first time. I think we've seen it in daylight, right? Yeah, I think so. I think that was a first time daytime sex, which was pretty awesome. But then, and shout out to our gay community in the comments, after the Skip episode, when we talked about Scott asking Kip to stay over, and we were like, hell yet, Chris, you were like, I'd have my mail forwarded that, you know what? Apparently, this is a big deal in the gay community.

After a hookup, it's usually like, all right, peace, I'll see you later. Elia asks him to stay over. Beautiful. That was incredible. That was just like a cool, fucking big deal moment. And I fucking liked that a lot. You know what made me laugh? I never thought about this, and maybe this is something else I'll learn.

But the, you know the cliche narrative of like a dude has sex? Like a dude comes and then immediately falls asleep because it's like, oh, I had sex and bye. and in gay relationships, just the idea of both of them passing out. Like, they both have sex and then it's just like, a couple of the fellas just knocking out. Yeah, God. Like those who just like snuggled in bed together, I was like, oh yeah, I guess both dudes would pass out.

That's really funny. There were a couple of really awesome cuddling moments in this episode that I was like, we talked about, we're so worried about Shane's heart. I'm like worried about my own here watching them like when, well, I will get to it. Sorry, I'm jumping ahead. So now we get to a scene, boys, where I am personally in trouble here because I realize that I, Dan Powers, am in love with Elia Rosenoff. Yeah. These two wake up.

Because he is the man. He is the man. And he's going to break my heart. These two wake up. Elya goes, I'm hungry. I believe Shane says for what, which was like, that's fucking. Okay, Shane. Cheapy stuff.

Yeah. Ely goes for food first, and he goes, I'm going to go make a fucking tuna melt. Do you want? Could you believe that, dude? Dude, for those who don't know. He had grillo pickles out, Dan. Will you stop jumping the gun and let me express my love here, you over-eager son of a bitch? I'm trying to open up here.

I'm not even giving tuna melt enough love yet, and you already got to the pickles? Fuck you. God. Premature ejaculator over here. Jesus He goes I'm making a tuna melt Which like the way to my heart

A fucking tune him out Are you kidding me So he's making a tune him out And then they bring out The Grillo's pickles on top of it Like first of all product placement Ding Grillows Well done

But also the best pickle in the game With a tune of melt I was like If this is what this fucking guy is doing In the summer While he's training And having sex with the love of his life He's making a tune him out

With Grillo's pickles Sign me up, pal. Mary me. Dude. Holy hit. This might also be the first depiction of a tuna melt as a romantic meal because I think typically it's a pretty stinky dish.

Yeah. Yeah. So. But, but Sean, it's like the plain conversation we had. At that point, you're having that hot,

steamy sex. There's a lot of smells going on. They're acclimated. Tuna melt's probably going to freshen the place up a little bit for being honest. Nice change. You're right. You're right. Also, Shane has his ginger ale again.

Thank you. It's nice. Rosie has that in stock for him. Yeah. Dude, it's cold enough. Yep. That was going to flag my second instance of ginger ale.

Very good. And Dan, to your point, like you said earlier, very touching. Like, the comfortable, the chemi is there now. Like, even that comment, dude, with, for hungry for what? Rookie or Shane doesn't say that. Agree. Totally agree. Your five, Shane says that.

Kemi is there now. Yeah, it's really, really nice. Then onto something not so nice. just in the way the boys are chatting, probably the most unnecessary and unprompted and disrespectful ricochet shot at Buffalo I've ever heard in my entire life, dude.

I couldn't believe that. Like, they just talk about how shitty Buffalo is, and then Shane goes, it's not just the team, the city sucks, too. Like, I was like, did we need to bring the city into this? Like, you're already sewering a kind of fictional Buffalo team, but we're clearly talking about the Sabres, but then he has to go double down and say,

The city sucks. Brutal. This is my, another example, because, Sean, this is when they're seeing Rosie's buddy on TV. You know, like, he's like, oh, like, you know, like, do you know this guy? And Shane's like, yeah, I played him once or whatever. And, dude, like, what they choose to make real is hilarious. Buffalo sucks in real life, but they could have easily picked a different city or been like, Buffalo's good. You know, but they were like, oh, Buffalo?

Horrible. Trash team, trash city. Just brutal. Like, oh, my God. Brutal. So at the top, fellas, we talked about how, like, the, the, you know, the, you know, the drama of this episode felt so rich to us. This is where it begins for me.

Now, Elia starts telling Shane about Svetlana. He's like, she's an old friend. We fucked every now and then, but like we're cool. And Shane is handling this like a pro. He's not getting too emotional.

You can tell it's kind of affecting him. But he's just being like, yeah, yeah, like that's cool. You know, like, you, yeah, I know you like a lot of girls and this and that. Elias, like, he's talking about that. He says he might find another woman in Boston. and Shane rolls with that too. He's like, yeah, I'm sure you can find someone. Like, there's probably girls like that in Boston, whatever.

And then Ely asks Shane if he likes girls, to which Shane says yes. Did you guys feel like this was Shane with, like, learning to protect himself a little bit better and saying yes because he feels the need to say that to Elya. Sean, I have a lot of takes on this scene. So, Sean, what do you think about that? Yeah, I kind of get the impression that Shane is so nervous about his image. that he's even trying to protect the idea that he is just gay, straight up gay, even to Rosie. So, like, he's like, oh, you, it's almost like, like, kids, like, oh, you do that.

Oh, I like that too or whatever, like to try and fit in with Rose. Because he doesn't want to make himself feel even more out of place by being the only totally gay person and not why like Rosie is. That's exactly how I felt. Like, as we heard from their first hookup, like, Shane was like, I've, dude, I've never done this before. Like, I don't know what's going on here. And we've heard from the fans and the comments and book readers. Shane has had, or I don't know if it has had sex, but has hooked up with women before. But we believe from the fan base that Shane's gay.

And this totally, Sean, to me, felt like he's like, well, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I'm just gay. And I only have a thing for guys. And I only have a thing for you. I think Shane's doing what he needs to do to protect himself here. yeah to match like the level like you said earlier dan about the deleting matex the level of commitment right he's because rosy's going yeah i've been girls so Shane's like same because he's not about to be like actually i'm completely in love with you um all right few bullet points here for me on this scene svetlana when rosy brings her up he says that her dad was a goalie used to be a goalie on my

yeah yeah yeah which by the way i thought her dad was the fucking minister no dude well i think maybe he might be both that's what i'm saying i'm like Dude, is the minister of magic of Moscow the fucking trechiak too? Dude, like, holy shit. Does that not make perfect sense to you, dude? Putin's playing hockey out here? I think it makes total sense. And it made me obsessed with her even more, dude.

She's the daughter of a fucking goalie. Her dad's the way she knows so much hockey. Exactly. She's a hockey girl, he, dude. She comes from a hockey family. This guy is such a legend in the country for what he's done in the game that now he is the minister or whatever. Goaded.

That man is goaded in Russia. So then, and don't forget, remember she, I think it was that earlier scene, you were talking about, Dan. She says Shane's hot. Like when Rosie's like watching on TV, she's like, she's hot. Elya mentions that too. He brings that up. And I typed in all caps, bro, if they have a threesome, I will literally pass out. Oh, my God.

Because I was like, are they teeing up a svet, Rosie Halsey threesome? Dan, I will literally, I will give this show every Emmy that has ever been made. I will track down old Emmys, take them from pass. winners and give them to heated rivalry if I get a Svet Rosie Halsey threesome. And I will also say this, man, by the little bit of a breaking news for the listeners here, we are going to live stream the finale at like getting our reactions as we watch. I might not be able to watch that with anybody. Correct.

If we get a Rosie Halsey, Svety three-way, you better believe that my pants are going to be off because that is the craziest thing. That is as hot as it gets. Talk about not getting monetized, Sean. It's all over for us now. But that, I mean, holy shit, Chris, that would be fucking out of control. I literally, I was like shaking while I was typing that because that thought entered my brain. I was losing my mind.

And then to the main point of your question, I wrote, I was like, man, Shane didn't even blink when he said that. Yeah. I'm with you guys on Shane's answer was because he was trying to fit in. But my question to the chat, to the community, is do, do, would you care? Like, let's say, because the way Ely is talking about it, it's almost like he thinks Shane knows that he bangs girls all the time. That was kind of my read on it.

That wasn't like breaking news to Shane. Dude, to me, can I jump in? Please. I think, I agree with you. But I also think Ely is doing that play dumb thing. I think he's talking so openly and casually as to try to make it not a big deal. Like, he's like, this is me. I think Ilya has been for many years living,

I don't want to say a lie, but living like this persona he's built up of himself. And I think in this moment, he's acting a little bit because he'd rather say this than say how much he cares about Shane. Yeah. And so to finish the thought,

my question for the chat is, in the gay community, would you be upset if you heard that news and you didn't know? Like if you were hooking up with a guy and you were like, this is going good or whatever. Oh, that you also hook up with girls.

And then he was like, I hook up with girls, you know, occasionally. Is that like, what the fuck? Both on a cheating level, like do you feel like you're being cheated on and on a, by comfortable with that level?

Because I have no idea. I'm sure this is a, the answer to that question is probably a person to person thing. It's like whatever your preference is, right? It's like, if you're cool with open stuff, you're cool with open stuff.

If you're cool with, you know, hooking up with anyone, you're cool with hooking up with anyone. So, yeah, I bet that's just going to be like a what's your vibe type of situation. Yep, yep.

But so here, really intense moment in the episode, Elyle gets a concerning phone call from his dad. As we said, looks like his dad is sick. And Elya keeps asking where Alexi is? He's like, where the fuck is Alexi? And he's not getting an answer. So he calls Alexi, his brother, leaves a message and he's like, I'm fucking paying you to be there to watch him.

Where the fuck are you? As we said from episode one, Sean, you pegged, you were like, I'm into the what is going on in Russia. That storyline is percolating in such an interesting way. And cooler way than Shane's family. Shane's mom freaks me out. I don't like Shane's mom. You know what? I liked her a lot more in this episode.

Okay. I liked her a lot more. But we'll get to that. But yeah, in this moment, that felt like we're going to, we're on a crash course there, too, of what's going on. Elya comes back and Shane is like everything good with your dad or like, how's your dad? And Elia snaps with like, oh, you speak Russian now. Not really a snap, but like kind of gives them like a snarky. tort and I was worried here

of like fuck dude like that was a big moment for Shane being like hey like that's a personal moment and he's asking because he's invested and instead of being like shutting down and being like fuck you whatever they stay close Shane's head goes in Ilya's lap and he's like

playing with his hair while they're like watching TV and I was like oh my fucking god dude my fucking god and I read that actually a little sweeter than you Dan I don't know what you think Sean so I'll let you say too I just said it was like the sweetest thing in the world. No, no, no, the, the, the Russian comment. Oh, like, I thought, I, because I, I even typed, damn, I want Shane to learn Russian as like a romantic gesture,

as like a love actually. Love actually, we're learning Portuguese. Yeah, like, I was like, I need shade in Russian class. And then when he comes back and he goes, is everything okay with your dad? I was like, did Shane learn Russian? Oh, my God. I had the same reaction. I thought he might have learned Russian. Holy shit. Oh, boy. But then Rosie was like, oh, you learn Russian now? I thought he was kind of like flirting, not flirting, but, you know, I thought he was being cute there. What did you think, Sean? Yeah, I thought it was like a little bit. I mean, their whole relationship is, you know, cute.

It's a rivalry still. So their whole relationship is kind of like teasing each other while being kind of cute. And I kind of read this, the interaction is that. It's very much like, I love you, fuck you. So it's like, I read it as just one of those lines like, oh, why, you speak Russian now? And I think part of it was, Ilya was kind of just like almost more confused. I love how we keep renaming this show. Like we change it from heated rivalry to.

soulmates and now it's too. Fuck you. I love you. It's like that is actually the name of the show. Dude, you know what I loved, Dan? Was Eulia going, taking that phone call and being so pissed and then off view of Shane going like,

like shaking off the shit that is his home life and then coming in. And I forget what he says right away, but he's like, was the tuna milk go? He says like something lovely. Yeah, he's like, do you need any more food or something? Yeah, I was like, that was awesome.

Watching him be like, put that away and now go be with Shane. I was like, God damn, dude. Which is the. Big, I mean, last time he was under pressure, he kind of took it out on shit. Snap that, him, dude. So true. Sean. Like, these guys, like, there's genuine love here.

And, like, you can tell that when they're together, they, all they want to do is be present and be in the moment and be together. And that is fucking special. Can I ask you guys a question to lead into the next scene, Dan? Because I know where you're going. Okay. Did you guys care? The next scene is so electric, obviously. So we're going to get to it.

But I, you could feel it getting electric. You know, I was like, oh, here we go. But I was like, I almost wanted Shane just to keep it nice there. Like, it was just like such a precious moment that they were snuggling. I was like, don't, don't, don't. Oh, no, dude. And then it just, I was like, dude, just hold him. Just hold him.

You know, you know what's tough here is doing these episodes and you're starting to see it in some of the comments. You have unintentionally revealed to us that you have a terrible sex life, dude. You have a loveless and terrible... Yeah, dude, you just like to keep it nice and simple, apparently. I just like to be held, dude. I just like to be held. The emotional cuddle into emotional sex is fucking all time, and that is exactly where we go.

Tales oldest time, Dan. Also, Sean, these two love afternoon delight now. Like, they got one taste of daytime sex and then boom right into it again. Unbelievable. Yeah, it... This is like an hour later, right? It's going to be a new pattern, I think. Yeah. This is like an hour later, right?

I got the impression, what do you mean? Like they hooked up in the day, then he stayed over. They woke up, had tuna melts, and now they're, this is the next day. Oh, yeah, this is the next day and it's game day. Yeah, they have a game today. Wow, dude, that's freaky diki, dude. You got morning skate. Jesus Christ, do they have a game this day?

He gets up and he says he has to go to like training or something. He's like, I got a team meeting. But, yeah, well, hold on. Because we got to say they do this hookup, and this hookup was fucking hot. This was a romantic, romantic sex scene. We get the spit in the hand, boys. We get the first spit in the hand to get things nice and lubed up. And then on top of that, of course, too hot, too passionate.

We get first names. We get both of them dropping the first names. and the way Shane says E. Sean, hit me like a sledgehammer. Oh, my God, dude. I didn't, it didn't even register when I watched it. Oh, yeah, Sean. Only now you're saying it, I'm realizing it.

Oh, yeah, Sean. It hit me like a sledgehammer, dude. And it was Rosie first. Rosie says Shane. And then in that moment, Shane says Eilia. And I was like, oh, shit. I first can. All caps first names.

But then, Shane freaks out. He gets up. He makes up this team meeting. He apologizes profusely. Again, Shane's heart is so pure and so beautiful. And he just says, I can't do this. And this moment, I think, is maybe where all of the fans were like, this is heartbreaking because that was heartbreaking.

Like, this moment for me was we talked about it turned transactional almost. This was a business relationship. And in that moment, the first name's drop. And I think in that moment, Shane went, I am fully in love with this man. And he was like, fuck, I got to get out of here. I thought it might have been a case of like extreme postnut clarity. Oh shit. Because he's in, I mean, as Chet says, if you're not in a state of postnut clarity, you're

in a state of pre-nut delusion. And I think that Shane was deluding himself maybe after staying overnight, having like the lunch with the tuna melts and everything else was going so well. I think Shane was deluding himself that this could be like a life for him. and I think that he hit that post nut and I just thought wait I can't let myself I can't let my guard down and you know think that this is a possibility anymore and but I also don't know if it was postnut clarity because I don't think we really know for certain where they were in their encounter yeah right the the the um I was this was the saddest part for me like everybody was like episode four sad this part hit me way in the sad feels way harder than the end of the episode. Absolutely. I was crushed in this moment.

I was like, what are you doing? You're the don't, you're the we didn't even kiss guy. Like you have been begging for exactly this. And to run away from it was crushing, dude. Yeah. And someone in the chat, please just go back, because I am curious about this. I want a tally of how many times Rosie has come and how many times Halsey has come in this season. Because I don't think it's fair.

And that's all I'm going to say, I know I've been standing for Shane. We got a lot of montage. Add it up. We got a lot of monies. The montages, don't forget. No, but all of the montages don't show the climax, so that's not fair. I'm asking about you. I'm already making a timeline.

Please don't make me make a tally for this, too. A cum tally? Yeah, get to come tally, dude. Come on, Sean. You know what, you know, Chris, you can make a cum tally. That's fair. Fair, fair, okay, I'll be on that. I'll be on that.

So, Shane leaves. We now get lunch with Mom and Dad. Great to see Shane's dad. We hadn't seen him a little bit. And just another scene here where, you know, we've got mom kind of acting like the agent. And like I said, I had a lot more love for her here because, like, she, it's just always in his best interest. She's never pressuring him to do stuff. She's just, like, always looking out for him.

And I'm like, fucking hockey mom, dude. Hockey mom of the year award for sure. But I do want to say she's talking about Wimbledon. Rolex wants him at Wimbledon. Perfect connection. Makes sense. And Shane's like, I'm going to skip. Brother, you got to be kidding me.

we cannot be skipping Wimbledon. Also, he mentions, like, the season there, like that is during the season, but he's just like, I can't quit training. It's the summer, pal. You can. You can go to fucking Wimbledon. Like, I just want. I have so many questions there, did? I want, I want Shane to hear this from me.

Like, it's okay. You got to go have some fun every now and then. Go to fucking Wimbledon. You're going to skip Wimbledon, but then you get another ginger ale moment for your ginger ale, telling. So my favorite, and was that the, did he leave Rosie's to do that or is that a different day? I don't, I think it's a little ambiguous. Because I was dying because I'm like, he just had the most awkward, uncomfortable convo with Rosie. That Rosie had to have there, by the way, sitting on his couch with a belly button full of jizz.

Just sitting there trying, as Shane's like this, I'm leaving. And I'm like, dude, like, we've got to go. You're like, Jesus Christ, Chris. And then he goes home, then he goes to lunch. I get another gingerail drop. I started to feel like in signs, Dan, you know, when the signs bookstore guy thinks the aliens are there just to sell soda pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a tired of, dude. Oh, 15, 15 soda commercials. This episode was brought to you by Big Ginger. That is for sure. I was like, what is happening? And then he's like, I was skipping Wimbledon. And if the timeline is right, I think this is 2016, which is Andy Murray. I'm like, you missed the first British Wimbledon winner ever.

Yeah. You didn't feel like it, dude. Insane. Jesus Christ. We also get, in this conversation, we get a little bit more attention brought to Shane's race again. Oh, yes. Because she says, oh, they're concerned that the box looks too Tennessee. Yeah.

And then Shane says, does that mean too white? Yeah. Love that by Shane. That was very interesting. That was very interesting. Dude, you know, we found so much in this show that Jacob, the creator and, you know, everyone involved is so into like little in-you-we. and little hidden messages. I almost have to believe with the Grillo's placement,

I have to believe that they were like talking to Canada Dry, and they were like, hey, do you want to strike a deal? And Canada Dry said no. So they were just like, we're just going to fucking hammer Gingerill in this episode just to know what you missed out on. Like some Canada Dry exec right now is ripping their hair out, being like this show is huge.

We fucking blew it. I genuinely have to believe that. So good. So two big things in this. this scene. So, like, they're talking about Wimbledon. Shane's a little snarky, and they're kind of like, you're all right, dude. And he's like, yeah, I'm sorry.

I'm tired. Shane's the best. He could never be mean to his parents. But there were two major moments here. Number one, Shane goes, you guys go. I'll say I'm going. We'll say something came up. They're not going to kick you out.

You can go. And Shane's mom says, I don't want you to lie. That's not who you are. Oof. Like, oof. Big pause on Shane in that season. Obviously, a line pointing to, like, he's living a lie. Brutal.

But then also, his mom mentions that there might be a Swedish princess in the box next to him. They're great seats. Shane gets up and leaves, and Shane's dad turns to her and goes, Swedish princess with so much, like, are you kidding me, hon? And in this moment, I was like, yo, do they know? Like, it's his parents. Because those lines felt contradictory to me, Dan. Like, the first one goes, they don't know. And it's sad that they just said, you would never live a lie, even though he is.

And then the second one made it seem like they did know. Well, I don't think the you would never live a lie was like a snarky line by her being like, I know you are. I thought that was more for the audience. That was not like, I don't think she was sending him a message. That's too mean for her to say. I think that was just like, she's talking about like, you don't lie, dude. She means it in serious. I thought that was a line for the audience.

This one, to me, was like, who knows Shane better than those two? Probably no one on earth. And I think that was for us then being like, They know. And he's being like, dude, what are you doing? And she's being like, if he's not out, I want to let him think that we're, we don't know. They fucking love him, you know. But that was a moment for me.

And I will get into another scene later. How well this show does little subtle cues of like characters. I watch this show and I assume everyone is gay and everyone knows everyone is gay. Like every new character is introduced and I'm like, fuck they know. Like that's how good they do this. suspense of like things are said and we're everything's a little ambiguous everything's a little suspect and I'm just like I'm on edge the whole time because I'm like oh my god oh my god oh my god does this person know does that person know but that that part blew me away you think you think Shane's parents

know I do yep I really I really didn't get that vibe maybe I have to go back and watch it again I really think I don't I didn't think they did either it was that one line they think their son is the the golden child that they've crafted him into being and like you does all the sponsorships that they ask him to do and he's living the life because he's a bit of a mama's boy. Yep. Yep. And I thought that this was just indicative of like Shane has this whole other, you know, he is living a lie like you said. And obviously that's a big point of contention for him and his internal dialogue when he's trying to justify his relationship with his parents and his life of who he really is outside of that. That nobody really knows him. I think you're spot on

with everything right there. The only reason I think, or I suspect they know is because of that last line. Like everything about them up to that point, I am 100% in agreement with you, but I can't fathom why his dad would look at the mom and go, Swedish princess. Like he says it with clear, like he does. He says it with stank.

Yeah, he does. Like there's stank on that line. And to me, that could mean only one thing it is, what are you doing? Like, why are you bringing that out? This is going to be the same as the Scott Hunter being gay thing where you call it out and then we're going to find out in like four,

Or how many episodes are left? Two more episodes left? Only two more episodes left. We're going to find out. Hey, I'm going to be right about it. I'm going to wonder how you did that. I would ask questions to Shane's mom, though, when the sponsorship she's getting him, have him like sprayed down in a white t-shirt for three hours on set.

I'd be like, hey, babe. Yeah. I can't let people think that I'm gay, but also here's me in my underwear, soaking wet. But that's, we're selling sex. The ladies love that, too. Yeah. What was the drink that they did for the stuff? sponsorship. Was that also ginger ale? What was that? I hope so. Oh, I think it was like I really hope so. Yeah, could you imagine? I think it was like an energy drink or something, but it was like a made-up. What if he's like sponsored by ginger ale? He gets paid every time he drinks one. Indeed, ginger. I'm telling you guys, someone at Canada dry is absolutely dead right now. I think yeah, I think you're right. Okay, so after this scene, great scene, Shane gets a call from a French Canadian teammate and he's like, we're at a bar. The cast of X Squad is here. Rosel, Lanswood is.

Awesome. Rose Landry is here. Now, I don't know about you guys, I got a big time vibe that X- Squad is Marvel. It's the Avengers. Oh, yeah. So who do we think Roselandri is? Good question.

Do you even think about that? Scarlet Johansson? Scarjo. Scarjo. She Scargo-Jansson. Could be Bree Larson. Could be Elizabeth Olson. But that was great.

Yeah, but has any, well, yeah, no, that's two in the weeds. Okay, but that was awesome. Yeah, this was a big moment. So, yeah, Rose Landry, big female actor. Big Star, X- Squad, huge movie. So Shane goes to the bar, orders a beer. He's clearly, like, he is dealing with a lot of stuff.

Because it's in season. He just said, I don't drink during the season. He goes there and he immediately orders a beer. He's clearly just like, dude, I'm fucking stressed. Then he happens. Which was insane to me. After all these, like, I don't drink lines. He's like, oh.

What do you mean? You're stressed. Of anyone, of anyone breaking down to pressure and drinking, you can understand that, Chris Powers. And I think, doesn't he order a gingerail first, by the way? Yeah, I think he does. I think he tries to order ginger ale in the bar offender's life. I think that was at the restaurant with his parents.

He orders ginger ale and they're like, no, we can do like a club soda or something. Isn't that right? I think he goes, I have it written at both. He goes, ginger ale. The guy goes, no, and he goes beer. And I'm like, so you're a liar, dude. All right, but yeah, go on. God, you're too harsh, brother.

He's living so many lies. Too many lies, guys. He's stuck in a web of lies, dude. He lives. He's sitting on a throne of lies. So imagine if the parents are like, well, we knew you were gay, but you drink beer now? You scumbag. Never come back home.

So Shane happens into a booth and wouldn't you know it, Rose Landry is sitting there. And boom. That was crazy. Well, I mean, I would prefer that than Shane walking up to a fucking roped off booth and being like, hey, can I talk to you? That was way better. Yeah. It just felt so funny that he was like, I just got to take a load off and be alone for second and she's like, whoa, I'm Scarlett Johansson and I'm sitting at this booth.

I could not imagine if I'm like, I need a minute alone for a moment. I sit down somewhere and beside me Sidney, I'm like, this is the worst possible timing. Especially, Sean, if you were like flustered in that moment, you're like, oh my God, I'm going to, this is going to be a disaster. I was like, oh, she's in the booth over. I see. And then it just like panned and she's in that. She is like, okay. She was taking a load off too, dude. That is a meat cute. That is a fucking perfect meat cute. So we find out that Rose is a hockey girl. She's from Michigan.

She's got three brothers who played. They start chatting. She's like talking about, oh, I love that. Dude, we find out, guys, she gets kidnapped in the next X-Squod movie. Don't tell. No one fucking tell. Shane's spoiler. Shane can keep a secret, babe.

If anybody can keep a secret, it's Shane. Don't you fucking worry about it. Don't you worry. But they have a great little conversation. I did, as you mentioned, I clocked here that she talks about it. One of her brothers made it to the H. And I was like, interesting that they say AHL. but not NHL.

Then it goes AHL into MLH. Yeah. But that was a fun little Easter egg. I also have to bring up the fact that for someone who's, I think the term we see in the comments is neurodivergent coded, he is so smooth being caught off guard with a movie star. Dude, if I was in that situation, I'd sit down. I'd be like, I like ginger ale.

Like, I don't know how, he's so smooth for someone who just had this, like, situation trusted upon him out of nowhere. John, neurodivergent and gay, theoretically. Like, I can't believe that he's just got, like, absolute bars in front of Citi. So much, so much game. How about this take, though? Maybe he is dealing with so much about keeping his sexuality a secret, dealing with how, you know, maybe, like, neurodivergent he is with hockey,

that his neurosis is so focused on those other things that he's a fucking cool customer here. When it comes to... When it comes to flirting with a movie start, he's like, I have no stress in this area. I'm gonna fucking wheel. Guys, an absolute wheel. It's unbelievable. But they do a great job, and I love this.

In this moment, he goes, asks if she's gonna be in town for a little while. So we're like, oh, okay, Shane, making a move here. Next thing you know, they're holding hands playing drinking games. And it's like, oh, my God. We cut to article of Shane and Rose are all over the internet. Articles all over the internet. crazy stuff,

Elia sees it. With the teammates, they're like, holy shit, they're like, oh my God, how did he pull her? And we,

for the first time, see a bit of cracks of jealousy in Elia. Like, he's like, dude, what the fuck is going on here? Jump to Roses now at games in a suite

wearing Shane's jersey. Dude, we're getting... Whoa, and kisses. Oh, yeah. We're getting cuts to, like, TMZ. They're on TV. Twitter reactions to this.

This is... like to the extreme we got riled up about jack hughes and tate mccray potentially being on a date this is like sean you just said it this is as if you know Sydney crosby circa 2016 was dating dude scurdy chrisby sydney shirlochohans shit yeah like sydney's the sydney's dude you imagine sydney chrisby sydney swine like this this would be monstrous so electric so electric um eelia is in the training room on the bike he's getting pissed out he turns the TV off, he gets off. And Sean, did you notice, did he kick the bike, or did he genuinely stub his toe?

I think he was so flustered, he genuinely stubbed his toe. I think so, too. I think so, too. So, Elyat now is, like, officially fucking rambled. He's like, dude, and maybe, like us, he's like, I didn't really believe Shane when he was saying he likes girls. Now here he is dating the biggest movie star on the fucking planet. He's flustered.

Now we get a game, Boston, Montreal. all. Shane's texting Rose before the game. Also, really nice that we got Rosie and Rose. Yeah. Really nice. Dude, say your text, Snipe, Dan. This is a great call by you. Also, we've got Shane call on Rose, babe. Like, we're fucking dating, dude. We're, like, we are in it. How long was this, by the way?

Doesn't matter, dude. Chris. Chris. Hey, one month in celebrity relationships is like four years, dude. Everyone knows that. You're right. You've got to go hard and fast. in more ways than one. And they are doing exactly that. They're dating. He's calling her, babe.

She's like, I can't come to the game. I'm stuck on set. And he's like, it's all good, babe. And she's like, come out with me later. I want to dance. And she's like, I won't make you dance. And he's like, liar. Hearts that.

By the way, don't think you could react to text back then. But you can't, dude, you can't heart texts back in fucking 2017. Whatever. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But we then get the game. Montreal beats Boston one nothing. Terrible game.

Like, Elia gets called out for sucking at the end of the end of the They're like, Elia Rosenoff's going to want that one back. Dude, to say that about it. Yeah, they're like, ooh, brutal stuff. So games over, we've got Boston still in Montreal. They've got a go night. They've got a green light night. And Elia gets up, goes to his teammate in the hotel, and he goes, get up.

Like, let's, I want to go out. I want to fuck. I want to get laid. I want to get laid. Like, jealousy is through the roof here. But we had to call out. You've got an NHL team in Montreal on a green light night. and we've got this guy laying in bed reading the room service menu.

I'm like, boys. Sean, get up and get moving. Because usually you've got to fly to this next city. You have a few a year, a handful of a year, a handful of a year where you're in a city. Especially in a city like that. In a city like that, you're going out. You are going out. Dude, he's staying in.

He's like, we're looking. Let's chill tonight, boys. Oh my God. That was so good. So we are now in the finale of this episode, guys. And this was the most intense sexually. charged, dramatically charged scene of the show for me. We get

to the club and we are in full opening scene of bad boys to strobe lights, music, thumping bass, just like craze, craze going on in the club. Shane is in there with Rose and some friends. Ely is in there is the same club with some people.

And we meet Miles. We meet Miles. Rose's gay friend. He goes out, he's like, I'm going to go get a drink. He goes to the bar and makes fuck me eyes at Elia. Like, big time, fuck me eyes. And Elia is such a promiscuous fucking stud. He does not, like, he does not give it like a what, dude.

Like, he kind of gives him his Russian, like, chin up. He's like, yeah, I see you looking at me. And I'm like, oh, my God, dude. Then that scared me. I literally thought, like, Miles was going to bang him in the hallway and come back and be like, this is what happened. I genuinely thought that was going to cut to them hooking up in the bathroom. I was like, oh, no.

but then boys mayhem going on in this club Shane starts dancing with Rose everyone's drinking everything's going crazy and Miles comes up from the bar and starts

dancing at first a little bit close to Shane next thing you know we've got Rose and Miles sandwiching Shane Miles is like grinding with Shane

and then he goes in and starts kissing Shane's neck. I was, my heart was fucking thumping out of my chest in this moment, dude. Rosie is making out with a random chick on the dance floor, grabbing her boobs from behind. They're grinding. That chick was hot, by the way. Oh, yeah, she will.

I mean, the two of them together. That's a nice wheel. They had matching moles. Like that was a match made in having a couple blondes, dude. Unbelievable. Mayhem in this club. And the whole time, Shane. and Elia are fucking just like staring at each other.

Like they're in these crazy, high tense sexual situations just staring at each other. And Shane is like, dude, I gotta go. I'm, I need to go to the bathroom. And as he's going to the bathroom, he gets a head turn and they lock eyes and I'm like, oh my God, dude. Oh, dude.

But it then cuts to Shane gets home with Rose. Shane drops the dress, or Rose drops the dress going up the stairs. We get a thong butt shot. unbelievable. That's the biggest movie star on the planet. Meanwhile, they go up, they start having sex. So we get full, Shane, having sex with Rose. Yep.

Gold Star No More. And the whole time we see Rosie crack and stick in the shower. Like intense jerk off and the, the just like overwhelming, intense vibes here of clearly Elya is thinking of Shane while he's jerking off, and clearly, Shane is thinking of Elia while he's having sex with Rose, was the most palpable feeling this show has ever had. Well, they were both looking into the camera,

so I like to think that they were both thinking about me. But it's a choose-your-own adventure, for sure. It's a choose-your-own-adventure, yeah. That's canon for me. You are so right, Sean, in that moment, both of them locking eyes with the camera. I was sweating. And also, did you guys notice?

Did you notice Rosie grabbing his own ass while jerking off? Yeah. They didn't. Oh, dude. It was awesome. Might have to throw that one in the rotation. I thought he was going to slip. I thought he was going to slip a digit.

I thought he was. I was like, here comes. Here comes the claw, dude. Here comes the claw. And then it didn't go in. But I was like, that's the day it's going to happen. The dad, the way Miles danced on Shane, if you know Shane is gay, if Shane was an out gay man.

Or if Shane was like a by man, but like his circle knew, that would actually be a completely fine and sexy dance. Who he's presumed to be, which is like the hometown team's mega star, dancing with his mega movie star girlfriend. You cannot be kissing on him like that, even if you're gay with Miles. You sure can, but it's a risky move. Yeah, yeah. Like that was, that was intense. That was intense as hell, but let's crazy. the most obvious metaphor of the entire show when it happened for me i was like oh i i understand

what this visually signifies but i was kind of taken out of it by the fact that like everyone in this nightclub knows who they are they've been on television for weeks everyone's going to be like why is why is that person grinding up behind Shane and why is Shane a clearly very straight man in the public eye. Why is he just like chill with it to a degree? Like if I was with my girlfriend somewhere and then a strange, even like another girl who I am, you know, compatible with in terms of sexuality comes up and starts kissing me while I'm kissing my girlfriend.

I'm going to be like, who are you? Get away from me. Correct. Like it would be so it's, it's kind of like such an unusual thing for the character to be okay with given the fact that he's so paranoid. So private too. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, you know, he was. drinking like that I he's a liar he's fucked up I meant to say bring this up again all he does is drink now so the only thing that matters to me the only thing that matters to me is protecting Shane's heart and I will not accept this slander dude you if you call him a liar one more

time he's a liar if you call him a liar with disdain one more time we're going to have a problem okay we see him drink one more time though in at 5 then you have to rescind this he's coping all right protect protect Shane all right God all right listen boys Now, well, I think about before we move on, we have to rewind a little bit and talk about

before the game, before Boston Montreal play, he was texting, he was texting Scarjo, and then sends the message and scrolls back down through his text messages to see to see Rosie's thread on his phone. Do you guys remember that? I do remember that. Anything new coming through. And it's just, I thought that was a really powerful scene to show how he's still, this whole thing is still performative for Shane. It's a farce. Still on his mind, still on his mind is Rosie. A hundred percent.

And I thought it was a great choice. I think in real life Rosie smashes that rubber burner that he was with at the bar. But I actually thought it was a great choice to have him go home and jerk because it was like, man. Dude, of course. It was all a peacock. You know, he was just putting the feathers up. He didn't actually want any of that. And here's the thing, dude.

Like, this is the first time as far as the sexual element goes where Shane's getting someone, Rosie's not. And I think at that point, I like the fact that he didn't hook up with someone because nothing's scratching that itch. Nothing is scratching that itch the way. Did you care, Dan? Because you said, and I agree with you, I think you're right, that Shane even said to Rosie in the first place, oh yeah, I hook up with girls, just to placate him to be like, yeah, we're on level footing. Yes.

This is a beer. relationship. Yeah, this whole relationship felt so far. You know, in the other guys, when, like, Mark Wahlberg's character, they're like, yeah, you learned ballet just to, like, make fun of that kid. I was like, Shane, we are taking this way too far. Like, he's going to marry Scarjo. Just to be like, see, see, Rosie? Like, I can be with girls. I'm like, dude, enough. Jesus Christ. How much of it do you think is him trying to convince himself that he can be with girls? That if Rosie can do it, he can do it, too. I don't know if it's convince himself. I think it's more of a teach himself. He's like, dude, this is going to be easier for my life if I just do something like this. I don't think it's convincing. I think it's like just calculated. He's like, Shane's just trying to stay focused.

But listen, boys, we're over an hour. We can't go on too long even though we could go on forever. Let's quickly rip through our awards as we wrap up episode for the two horned up award of the episode. Where are you guys at? Spitting on the hand. Spitting in the hand was. Out of pocket. Insane.

That takes the cake from me. I don't think I need to explain any further. Yeah. That was fucking awesome. And I even wrote down, I don't want to take the words out of your mouth then, but I wrote down that if we all don't have the same horniest moment in this episode, we are watching this show incorrectly because that was it.

And I will even tell you this right before that. It says, he goes, Shane goes, are you going to come from me, Rosenoff? And Rosie goes, fucking make me. And then it's Rosie spit. Like, it's not even like, Shane spit into his own. Rosie spits into Shane's hand. Barbecue my baby backs, dude.

I was like, Dan, I literally out loud to you at, oh my God. I out loud. I was like, I've never been more uncomfortable in my entire life than watching that scene with my brother. Because it was fucking intense. That had me screaming. Dude, that was fucking incredible. The big takeaway for me was the nonverbal communication. He does, like, does no hesitation know what are you doing with your hand?

It was just like, oh, yeah, of course. Yep. Yeah. Oh, God, dude. That was the best scene. That was the best scene in the fucking show. What's yours, Dan? Unless you want to just say safe.

No, it's absolutely that. There is no question. I did love the on top-bottom flip. That was just a hot-ass move. But then it was immediately trumped a couple scenes later with the spit in the hand. Fucking incredible. Absolutely incredible. All right.

Or what the fuck moment. Chris, take us away. I'm not allowed to say mine because Dan is going to have a problem with me. We've just established a rule that I'm not allowed to say this anymore. No, it's okay because you're revisiting. You're revisiting callouts. That's fine. And honestly, dude, it's not even that he is the L word.

It's that I don't think Shane is a don't drink during the season guy. I didn't buy that. Like, I think Shane is like, yeah, dude, I have beers with the boys. Like, I'm not, I'm not a rosy level, like, party animal, but, like, I have the occasional pop on goal nights, go nights with the boys. So I didn't buy, I don't even buy that Shane Hollander doesn't. and drink during season. And I certainly don't buy it when he becomes a liar. Careful, dude.

Fucking careful. Mine is the hotel room. Montreal, step your fucking shit up and get your star player his own hotel room. Unacceptable. Oh, and, yeah. And the no Boston go night. That was another good one. Yeah, yeah.

That you called out. Got to let the book. What did you have, Sean? It's tough because I think that the, I don't know, everything that you said makes total sense for the worst but or not the worst but the uh what fuck were we doing here but i think for me the Shane sitting in the booth to be surprised by a celebrity and being so insanely smooth is kind of like so surreal i won't say it's unrealistic because Shane is clearly very charismatic but he doesn't come across as like super charismatic

to everyone he meets except for this one instance which is when you'd be the most like flabbergasted the most flustered. So that kind of was unrealistic for me, but I kind of liked that it happened, so I don't want to complain about it. Yeah, I'm with you on that scene too. Even him sitting in that booth had me a little like, what? But it all worked out.

And bring it back around, Sean, your do I love this moment, which is funny now because we all love this now, but you're absolutely loved this moment. I, for me, from start to finish, soundtracks unreal, all the things she said at the club and it turns into like the EDM version of the tattoo song. Very good. Unbelievable.

And so now my Spotify is just a whole bunch of playlists of heated rivalry compilation. Sick. Yeah, I think. And then obviously the drama is at an all-time peak, especially for this arc. Some people were, we're dogging on us a little bit for like in episode three so much. Dude, book people hated episode three. I didn't realize that. The fucking comment is like on fire about that shit.

I was like, I am shocked. Yeah. Let us, hey, let us love what we love, guys. If we've learned anything,

come on. We love Skip. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm enjoying the show wrong. But I liked, I think I liked episode three so much because it was completed arc. But this episode of the Shane Rosie arc is the heighten,

the best episode of that arc, I think. Got us into our lash out. Yeah. Like I said, we are on, we are on a locomotive headed for a brick wall of drama here. with the end of this episode, and I love it.

My, oh my God, I love this moment was the first names. First name drop. Oh, yeah. I was just like, oh, my God, the emotions through the roof. And then also what that led, that led us on this, that was the catalyst of this, like, self-destructive behavior for the two of them of just, like, living lie even deeper. And I was like, oh, my God, incredible. Mine, and I'm so glad this hasn't been mentioned yet in our breakdown.

it was right before that, actually, Dan, after the initial afternoon delight and before they make fun of Buffalo, when Rosie and Halsey are two, at your very core friends, right? Like we care about each other as human beings. Star NHL players, sitting on the couch, eating a snack,

talking about their favorite road cities. That was so sick. Because that is exactly what happens. We are with guys in league all time. That is the number one point of conversation. Like, oh, what city do you like? Oh, that city's sneaky fun. Oh, that rink is awesome.

The ice is so good. Hearing two NHL superstars talk about their favorite places to play on the road. And it was so accurate. How many times have I busted this show's balls being like, that's not what would happen in real hockey? Like, that's not realistic. Him being like, oh, everyone hates me in that city. Like, oh, fuck New York.

New Yorkers hate me. I play for Boston. And he's like, what about Florida? He's like, there's a ton of Boston people in Florida. They like me. I was like, this is all perfect. Like, everything was accurate and cool. And that was like my favorite scene in the show because I was like,

damn, dude, this is a fucking real moment. That was sick. Yeah. Well, unbelievable stuff, boys, unbelievable stuff from this show. Sorry we went a little long, folks, but as you can tell, we are just, we are so in it. This episode, you guys are watching this on a Monday. Fear Not. Tuesday, episode five will be out, so we will be all watching the finale together at the end of the week. So make sure to tune in tomorrow for episode five review.

We've been told to brace for an impact. So we can't wait. We love you all, and we'll see you next time. Thank you.