Empty Netters Podcast - BONUS: ROBBIE GK made Kip a HEATED RIVALRY star, can beat you at Spike Ball & needs his own Marvel movie

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

Robbie GK joins the guys in studio for an all time hang session. From his original audition for Scott Hunter to the call from Jacob before episode 3 telling him to brace for impact because his world was about to change. We talk Kip’s dad and Heated Rivalry dance offs. Plus, the guys nerd out on Lord of the Rings, video games, and playing spike ball. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are joined today by a Port Credit Ontario native, an incredibly talented singer, actor, dancer, and gymnast. From the Atobico School of Arts, who got his start portraying Kurt Von Trapp. That's right. Has appeared in many projects like The Next Step, Anti-Social, Full Out, Utopia Falls, the community players, Mary Fuckkill, overcompensating, and Sheriff County. And now is the smoothie making, art-loving, hard-bodied kip on the massive series, heated rivalry. Welcome to the Empty Ners podcast Thank you so much I feel like I need a walkout song

I know We should have had that Let's go The robe would have been great Hood up to just like shaking the song too You know you're from your app There was that big song Oh it's uh

I'll believe in anything Yeah we should have been playing I'll believe in anything You guys blew it As he walked out of here actually You do it great to see you We're gonna edit that We're gonna start it over

Actually that's how we get demonetized Do we put in that? You're right no music That's funny Oh man Nice to be here Heard you got a Christmas present for your mom this year.

Wow. Okay. Well, I think you're referencing one thing, which is like, is it the the Kip Grady doll? Oh, I didn't know about the doll. Okay, so what's, okay, I'm curious what you think. I heard you got the socks. I did get the socks, yeah. That's all the time.

That was it. There's a couple of things. So there was the socks that my mom got. And then my stepdad, actually, I might grab my phone. I got to show you this. Yeah, yeah, get it. Get it. I want to Kip Grady.

Grady doll. Saved. I agree. That was my first thought. Well, there's so many third-party, like, merch stuff being made about the show now. Yeah, yeah. Let me see if I can find this doll. Because this, like, the socks were one thing, but my stepdad made this Kip Grady, like,

paper match day. Because he's really big into art and, like, everything like that. So he made this whole Kip Grady action figure in a box. It's like a stop motion animation doll. Yeah, literally. It's incredible. And it's like Kip, the apron, the bow top. The bow tie.

The bow tie there, the smoothie, and then the cupcake that I blow out at the end of the episode. So he made this whole thing and made the box. Let me see. Yeah. And then like on the side, it's like, literally your intro. Yeah, you made the box and everything and put like a bar, big barcode on the back. So that was very cool. That's like the greatest Christmas present I've ever seen in my life.

Yeah, it was very good. Also, you have any idea the value of that thing in a few years? It's one of one. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. One of one. Yeah. And you know, what's tough now is that's going to just be recreated by all these third parties.

Maybe. I did send it to Rachel read the writer. And I was like, my Fred, shout out Fred, my stepdad who made it. And I was like, Fred made this. Like, don't worry, he's not going to distribute. You don't have to sue. There's no copy, right, please. It's just for me.

Rachel ties right up in a lawsuit for years. Yeah. Fred's like this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Oh, that is so good. Holy molly. Dan mentioned sound of music, Grantrop, got your start. And you really got your start in musical theater in general.

But to even go before that, we saw that you had gone to a Circus Soleil show with your dad. I did. And been pulled up on stage and you're playing with the clowns and everything. And that's kind of when you were like, oh, I like this. I like performing and this is really cool. Yeah. And Cassania just came on.

And she has circus training in Russia. I don't know if you do. Yes. I had no idea. I think there's something going on here, dude. Maybe. Like this circus pipeline, I guess, to TV and film. It goes straight to heated rivalry.

Yeah, it does. Yeah. Exactly right. So, and then for someone who loves musical theater so much, you ended up going to school in New York to do that too. Correct. I guess we can say dropped out, but maybe kicked out of school. Yeah, I mean, I was, so I was there in New York, and then I was, I was filming full out the movie for that was in, like, Canada.

I guess, and then it went to Netflix or whatever. Anyways, I was filming that movie, so I was late getting to school, like, maybe like a week late, and they had docked me. They were like, sorry, like, you've missed all these classes. You got to make up for it. You're failing. And then I had to go home for, like, a surgery. And, like, came back with doctor letters and everything like that. And they were like, yeah, we can't accept that.

Like, you're either failing. So you've got to come in every weekend to make up classes or leave. And so, like, they're sitting at the office. I was like, five, five. Yeah. Dude, that is so difficult. Because I heard you say I wasn't going to class. And I was like, oh, yeah, okay.

That's how you get kicked out of school. But this is ridiculous. I mean, that's true, too. Yeah. I also wasn't going to class sometimes. But, yeah, that's crazy. So tell us just a little bit about how much you like musical theater and how that was a cool way for you to cut your teeth before you kind of made the pivot.

Yeah. So, like, musical theater is so different. And, like, you learn so many lessons. And I think you really develop the sense of, like, professionalism because there's not. Like, with TV and film, you know, obviously there's way more money. You can distribute it way farther. And with musical theater, it's like often people are, like, bringing their own costumes and stuff and smaller kind of community stuff. So you really, like, get this sense of character.

character and you really learn from other people who have kind of tried to or who have been doing it their entire lives and like looking for a break or their chance to a bigger stage and they like you know they're extremely talented people who are just it's mind-blowing it's such a weird thing because you're surrounded by this entire cast of like crazy talented people and you're all performing for like maybe 200 people a day and it's just like such a good opportunity to like learn how to work with people learn how to you know under you're just a small part of a bigger ensemble. And so I think bringing that into TV and film is like, I don't know, it's a weird like kind of mix of tides where like I feel like TV and film often, you know, you kind of have these big stars and like, you know, you have this trailer and all that stuff, even in smaller stuff, like you get a trailer and you get your meals paid for and you get like a drive to and from. But like musical theater, like you're paying for your own gym membership. You're paying for all your own makeup, like all this other stuff.

Dude, that was when I didn't know. That's crazy because that feels like such a part of the production to me. Totally. And I think you said it best when you said community. Yeah. I've been in musical theater productions where it's like we were helping build the set. And then what you just said, I loved about, you know, 200 people are coming when you have three days of a show. Yeah.

And when it's that small and you look into the audience and you see the same people returning for the second and third nights, it's, you're like, this is incredible. It's almost better than the huge thing. 100%. So it's cool when you have a small set and it feels like that. It's like everyone's helping. Everyone's in it together. It's incredible. I love that.

And it's great. And like, you know, live performance is a totally different beast than TV and film or any recorded stuff. Like, I still feel that that is the most, I don't, rewarding, like, sensation as a performer is doing live theater, live musical theater. Because you can see people, like, you know, even if in your, if you're in a 2000 seat or a thousand seat theater, like you can see the first four or five rows or so. And if you're doing a production, I remember I did a production of Jesus Christ Superstar in Sharpton. Charlottetown Festival, which is an island in Canada on the East Coast, just above Maine. Yeah, yeah. And they have a great festival there, and I worked there for like five years or so.

And we did a production of Jesus Christ Superstar. And at the end, like, it's a very dramatic show. It's very moving. And I remember, like, looking at the first through two or three rows, like, in the wings, you know, drenched and sweat for, like, doing a big dance break and, like, scrubbing blood off my body. Because my friend Aaron, who was playing Jesus, and then we had to carry him off and, like, everything. And then you look at the people in the front row and they're just bawling.

Yeah. And you don't really get that sensation the same way that you do and like TV and film and stuff. Like you see videos and you see people's reaction when they watch it. But to see you do something

and then that have the direct impact is like, yeah, I don't know. It's amazing. That's the it moment. It really is. I have to ask, have you seen O the Cirque to Salatia?

Mm-mm. Okay. No. I will literally take you to O. Done. Because it is truly the most most miraculous thing I've ever seen in my entire life. It's a, I don't want to give anything away.

Yeah. But it's a water-based search show at the Bellagio in Vegas. Oh, shit. I've heard about that. It is actually insane. I audibly gasped like an old woman the first time I went. And it's just like, it's truly incredible. So add that to the best.

Absolutely. I've been to Vegas, but I would like to go and deal that stuff. You should definitely go. I got to say as well, with the beard coming in right now, you're giving a lot more Scott Hunter and a lot less kit. You auditioned for Scott Hunter first, though. I did. But when you went, you didn't have a beard.

You had a mullet and a mustache because you thought that's what a hockey player looked like. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I'm bugging this shit for sure. I just need missing teeth. But like you, so how did that go going in looking like a 70s porn star instead of a hockey player? And how did you not know what a hockey player looked like growing up in Canada and being an athlete? Okay. So I think, I think, like, Canadian, like,

beer league hockey players do have much. Correct. I'm going to come to your defense there. That is correct. There's no way that they don't. Because I know, like, everybody, like, in Vancouver, if they play rugby, like, because that's why I play more. And I never played hockey growing up. But everybody, even Ontario, like, bleached hair, mullets, like, you know,

the hair cut. So, yeah, it's, I originally auditioned for Scott, Hunter. And, you know, I kind of read it. like a pretty rowy dude. Like I didn't really understand. And it was kind of like another audition I came in. And I was like, yeah, okay, a hockey show, Canada. Like, I have an idea.

And, you know, Shorzie was, oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry, Letterkenny was popular at the time. And that was Jacob's previous show. And so I was like, okay, maybe this is it. But then obviously when I kind of read through it more and then when I got asked to audition for Kip, I was like, okay, this is very different feel as to what I thought it was originally.

Yeah, I wanted to ask you as well. because I know a lot of Thespians kind of gravitate towards the more tortured roles. And Kip is a very, like, mature, very kind of like regulates his emotions very well kind of character. So when you first read Kip, were you kind of like, oh, this character is boring before he's really read it with the whole script and saw where his role in the whole story was? Or were you just as excited to get Kip as you would have been with like a more tortured Scott maybe?

Yeah, no, definitely. I like so, you know, so excited to even be. It was great that they even saw me as potentially for kid. Yeah, yeah. Right? Like to send in a tape like that, usually I would send something in like that and it would just be like, now this guy like sucks or is not right for the role. And to like have the vision to see me for that was great. And at the time that my haircut had changed.

Yeah. Yeah. It got a little force of dude because I was like, I was a ski bum and Whistler for like in Vancouver for like two months when I originally auditioned for Scott. So then I got back to Toronto and everything. got back to normal. And, no, I think I saw KIP as actually a very exciting character. Because, like, you know, the three other main guys are all, like, top-level hockey players. And Kip is, like, the only normal character, like, with the sense of stakes and, like, the lifestyle and whatever.

Very grounded, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So relatable, too. Yeah. To so many people. For sure. You know, like battling through trying to go to school, working your job, trying to survive an expensive city. So relatable.

And definitely. We said it on the podcast as well. Like it's, it was so nice to see like a dramatic story between people that wasn't just about miscommunication. Yeah. Like between Kip and Scott communicating so well. But like their drama was an external thing. It wasn't just about them not being able to like a Hallmark movie, like not being able to say how they feel.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was really good to see that. Yeah. And, and just going back to one of your points, like I think reading Kipp's stuff and reading the script, like I really was kind of in some ways still am very related to that. character in the sense that like at the time I was working a sales job that I was like you know I'm really just doing this to pay the bills so that I can do things that I'm passionate about and go

acting class and I'd be able to ski and do that type of stuff and so I remember reading the character breakdown of like this is a guy who's just kind of normal and looking to make some money and all this other stuff to pursue these greater aspirations and so it was just kind of natural to read and just yeah yeah that's what that was my life on this show I feel like we've heard so much about how incredible the cast was with each other and even people who didn't necessarily have scenes together and some of the parties and meetups and it's just felt like this big family and this love fest that's been so amazing and then two people with uh francois arno and matt who played scott and your dad yeah show were people you obviously had great scenes with and

you had mentioned that matt was almost sort of like a method actor with how much of a paternal figure he became for you on set. How did he do that? And what were ways that he just made you feel right off the bat? Like, wow, this guy's like taken care of me, like a dad,

and showing me that type of love and affection and support. Yeah, he, like, I think when we first met, you know, I think when you meet anybody on a set, especially like other actors, everyone kind of has their own,

like, way of that they approach things and whatever. But I think, if my memory serves me correctly, I went for a handshake and then he, like, I think he, dabs and went for a big hug. immediately and I was like oh okay like I get your vibe and and Matt has kids of his own as well and

he just really is like the cool dad yeah like the whole time you know he and I started talking about sports and we started talking about other stuff like that and and yeah in between takes like even in the stuff that we weren't like I know at the end of episode three there we have like an emotional scene where I come in and we're crying we embrace but like the other stuff too where he's kind of cheering me on and stuff when when we were switching this the cameras around I'd be like how'd that feel for you like is there anything I can do and he's like no you're doing great buddy like keep going you're doing a great job good job son yeah literally literally and it was like between him and Jacob like they both were such kind of like

like I guess paternal forces of being like you're doing a great job dude like keep it up like can I get you anything like whatever and and so it was just so natural like I didn't I like I remember smiling when we were doing some scenes together like chatting with him because I was like you're kind of our being like a dad to me on this set. And so it was so easy. It's amazing how far that goes. Yeah, for sure.

Building that comfortability, it's amazing. And obviously, no one could have ever guessed the reception of this show. I mean, it is just exploded in so many ways. But with that relationship specifically, were there any scenes or moments where you could kind of tell that he was going to be a character, this sort of father figure character that a lot of people would love? Because we always get obsessed with shows and movies that have awesome TV movie dads and moms. and he's in there now.

Everyone was like, fuck, I want him to be my dad too. Yeah, I mean, I just kind of since day one, the second I met him and the second I met Matt and we kind of hugged and started talking about sports and stuff and then when we did our first take, I remember like I think our first take of being like father-son stuff, I was like, fuck this guy's good. Like, I'm going to break hair.

I'm supposed to be stressed and like getting shit around the house and stuff and he's cheering me on and I'm like, shut up, dude. Why are you being so? endearing. This is so like anyway so I think just like from the second I you know obviously you film everything and you hope that editing is a whole other part but you'll see what makes it in and so

all of those scenes that he and I did together and like the little snippets and like you know I'm thinking back to episode three there's a moment where I'm getting dressed and stuff and I run upstairs and he's like you're going to do great buddy and whatever and like those little moments that he's kind of talking to himself after and like I was like God I really

hope they keep that in because that really is what sells it right? That's what makes it feel genuine because he was just being genuine. Yeah, he's gonna be your dad forever. Yeah. Imagine disappointing him. I know. I'm disappointed. Damn.

Text, dude. That would hit hard. Yeah, that would crush. But speaking of being so good, we mentioned Francois as well, and you had said also that he brought a real intense and great expertise to set, which helped you a lot. Yeah. And obviously, one of people, I mean, for us three, when we were watching the show, we got to episode three, and we sat down doing these reviews and we were like easily favorite episodes so far like it just blew us away truly blew us

away and i think there was so much to be said about the way you two created this whole story arc and this whole romance and relationship that we all invested in in just under an hour that's hard so what were some of the ways that you two work together and and we're able to communicate to make all of those moments like the chemistry the intimacy scenes the sex scenes really work and sell that you guys were comfortable with each other and made it feel so great for all of us. And I would add, did you even, did you know, like when you did those chemistry tests early,

where you're like, okay, we've got something cooking here, or did it grow? For sure. It's a bit of both. So when we did the chemistry reads, I read with some people in person and then I read with a couple of people over Zoom. And I remember when we did it with Francois,

we read, and I texted Jacob right after saying that was our last one. Nice. I know for sure. And I know Jacob was a fan of Francois and like really wanted him for this. Yeah. And so in combination of that as well as like the chemistry just working out, it was just like one of those, this is a no brainer decision. So that was great.

And then as far as developing the relationship, it actually kind of worked to our favor that this was all so compacted. Because and most for the most part, our scenes were shot in order. Oh, great point. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. We had, our first scene was the scene at the art gallery when he kind of tells me to sh, and then storms off. That was our first. Yeah, yeah. But it's a good one because we're both nervous, right? Yeah, like, totally. We're both nervous to be out in public. We're both nervous. Like, and so it worked out so

well because then we kind of went back to the beginning and had like the flirty scenes in the, in the smoothie shop and all that other stuff. But it really was a natural way of kind of like figuring each other out on screen as well as off screen because like we would say cut and then we would go sit down and it'd be like, so like, where are your parents from? Yeah, right? And then we're talking about that kind of in the scene as well. So it worked out really well. And by the time that we got to like, you know, the banquet stuff where we're all

the suits and stuff and we know each other better and the intimacy scenes, it was like, it was like, yeah, it was perfect design by Jacob and the team of like, this is how we're going to do this. I was about to say just another example of Jacob and the team's mastery of like that's, that's a calculated decision. A hundred percent. will just help it grow both personally and character-wise. Yeah.

That's just really, really well done. I love that. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah. And so let's stay on episode three for a second because I want to give you RPO, but I also saw something you said that I think is sick. Okay. That you hadn't read the book before.

Mm-hmm. And then you were like, oh, well, since we're telling an entire book in one episode, right? I almost don't want to know all that backstory because then I'll know my performance will be, like, winking at stuff. Yeah. That's like no one knows. Like the people that hadn't watched the book, or hadn't read the book, won't even know this.

Yeah, totally. So I actually thought that was awesome because I'm like, oh, now it makes this character. Kind of like what you said to Cassania about, like, she was basing it off the writing in the script. Yeah. Just her parts as well. Yeah, right. I wasn't even reading the entire script. She was like, I just want to know my character and what my character is doing in this world.

Right. So I thought that was so awesome. And we obviously went in blind too. And we, like Deanne just said, episode three, because we would come in here in the mornings to do them. And we usually weren't watching together. And we'd all come in like, dude, what did you think? And three blew our hair back. We were like, oh, my God, this entire series has leveled up in a way of storytelling that was so intense.

And then I was shocked in the comments to see a lot of the book readers didn't like that it was this, the whole skip story was this bottle episode. And I was like, what? Well, I think they just wanted more. Of course, yeah. Yeah. So obviously that was Jacob's decision, right, to be like, okay, this is how we're telling this part of story. But my first question is, did that decision kind of come up at all? Was he like, hey, we're telling an entire book in one F,

and this is the way we're doing it, but people might be rattled, or were you guys just like, whatever, we're going. I think, like, you know, obviously, this is the actors, we don't get any to say as well as included. You'll read your lines. Yeah, read your lines and do your job. But, no, I think, like, just from seeing in the conversations

with everyone else in the cast as well as reading, like, I did go through and read, kind of skim the other episodes, but I also didn't really want all the outside world that was going on in the show. to affect my performance with Scott. Like, I didn't want the context of Ilya and Shane. So smart. I didn't want any of that. I just wanted to be kind of rocked by our storyline

and by, you know, Scott Hunter's coming into my world. And at the end of the day, like, I trusted Jacob and read through the, through the episode. I remember I was up at my dad's, like, cottage. I feel like the word cottage now is so loaded. It's so true. So loaded. Every time I say college now, I'm like, I'm just saying cottage.

Yeah. I was remote on our show yesterday because I was skiing with my girlfriend's dad and her and I was like Dan was like where are you and I was like I'm in the cabin yeah yeah yeah totally I bought some cottage cheese this woman was like yeah I know what you did there yeah but I was I was okay this would be more of a cabin like I was up and my dad's in the in the winter time where it's like we're boring a hole in the ice to like take the bucket out to boil it sick to shower into a pale to the reshour yeah so we were like up north and I was on my phone and I was reading through the episode and you know I like I would say like not a lot of stuff moves me and and but I remember reading through this and I got to the scene where yeah they embrace with with Matt and everything and I was crying yeah I was like and then my dad came in the room and he's like what's wrong with you yeah and I was like you want to understand that's like the shower too cold yeah no no yeah you're like it's my TV dad and we're abracing and he loves me and he loves me and he's like to watch me and he loves me and he's my TV dad and we're embracing and he loves me and So just like, you wouldn't get it. Yeah, you wouldn't get it. Yeah, you wouldn't get it. Exactly.

No, but I, you know, I trusted it. And when I read through it, I was like, this is great. Like, this is great. And if you are not a book reader, like, I'm sure the book readers out there who have read Game Changers or Game Changer has, they probably were like, oh, there's all this stuff in there that I want to. And, you know, my fingers are crossed. I know nothing about season two, but my fingers are crossed that there's maybe a world in which we either go back or whatever, do a spin-off or something like that for those readers to, to, to get what they've got. Yeah, dude, that's amazing

because you answered my follow-up, which was going to be, were you surprised how much emotion you guys were able to pack in whatever, 52 minutes. But I guess it sounds like even from reading it, you could already tell, even before you got to see the final product.

Yeah, I mean, I just viewed it as a standalone movie. Yeah. Like, it's an hour-long episode. A good rom-com is like, what, an hour 30 or so? Did you watch The Last of Us? Yes. It's like that episode. That's exactly what I said.

When that episode came out, I was like, how the hell did they do this? And you guys managed to do it as well. It was like it was a movie, really, is what it was. It was incredible. Yeah. So it's just, it was its own standalone story. But obviously the tie, like at the beginning of the episode where they used like the same

shot that they ended on the last episode, but then they go in on Scott Hunter instead of Shane. Yeah. Like, it's just like those decisions. That was awesome. As soon as that happened, I'm like, oh, I'm going to fucking love this episode. Yeah, totally. And then it was just like just every single scene was just a winner after winter after winter. I'm really hoping we get more skip in season two.

Yeah. I obviously hope so too. I think you said too that the end of F3, you only see, or you only acted your part, like having a party. And so then you watch it. You get to see like Scott looking through like the raining with you. Yeah, and you're like, oh my God. It's like, right.

Right. Yeah. Devastating parts of the entire series. Yeah. No, it was fun. You had a very kind of different launch into stardom than a lot of your other castmates, though, because you weren't at the premiere. Mm-hmm.

And I think you were playing rugby when you got the, news and Jacob had contacted you and gave you a heads up saying hey this is it's going to get crazy for you yeah but did it were you a little bit more like managed with that warning or where is it still like a shock to see just how much you had blown up i think the shock is coming now yeah the shock is hitting now come onto the empty netter podcast yeah yeah i'm like i am florida here guys yeah no but truly it is like that is definitely a part of it and and and there was like scheduling i'm this other show called Sheriff Country where I play a recurring character in and and just like the timing of that I didn't want to fly back then come back and fly back and then all this other stuff so

I wasn't able to make the premiere which was too bad but yeah and then you know I kind of thought that when Jacob called me being like brace for impact because this is happening with Connor and Hudson like I've they were keeping Kip a secret for until episode three like you know they had all that episode name as asterix or whatever trying to keep it low key until the drop. So I was like, I don't think. I can't imagine people are going to get off this train to jump on this train in the same way that everyone's kind of rallying behind these two guys. But it's kind of been a slow ramp. And like I said, being here and seeing everyone like I was at the Pitt premiere last night for season two.

And there were people there, like HBO people who were like coming up to me and being like, we're such fans of the show and like whatever. And I was like, this is crazy. Like, yeah, anyway. It's funny, man. It's like we, you know, you and I had been talking already about coming on. Yeah. And then you posted something the other day.

You were like, I'm coming to L.A. Anyone have any recommendations or something like that? The amount of people who DM'd us your story post. Yeah, really. Being like, he's in your hood. Get him on the show immediately. That's funny. I had a moment for you of being like,

oh, he's getting slammed with people right now for sure. It's like everyone's watching your every move now. It's crazy. You were telling us earlier about getting spotted on a plane. Can you tell that again? Yeah, that was on the way down here. That was on my flight yesterday where it was like I checked in and they did the, you know, sometimes you get called up and they do the passport verification or whatever, which I'm like,

I don't really know what that's for, but I was like, I got pulled back and then they did the passport verification. The lady who was doing it, she like smiled and gave it to me and she held the smile like a little longer. And I was like, but I was wearing this exact outfit. So I was like, you're not good. It might have just been because you're a sexy lumberjacket. Yeah, right now. Thanks, man.

I appreciate it. True, that's true. But I was just like, yeah, whatever, whatever. And then she was the one when they said you got moved to this because she's a big fan. She was the one, like, waving there. And I was still trying to like figure out what was going on if I was getting booted or whatever. She's like actually like, no, get off the plane. You're off the plane.

Oh, man. Yeah. So do you think now with the men of eyeballs that are on you and on the, this role that if uh you know in future roles is that going to be something that's like like playing in your mind acting or is that going to be something when you're playing kip again in the future if you are playing kip again in the future is that going to be something knowing how much of a fan favorite kip is i you know i think i truly i'm speculating because i obviously we're not there yet and i don't even know if i oh have a chance to to put some new breath into kip but i think that the vibe that

Jacob created on set for season one was just so chill and so fun. And I can't imagine that changing if we were going to go and do more stuff in season two with these characters. Like, again, like I probably sound like a broken record here, but like really Jacob, Brendan and all the creative team created such a chill environment. And I've been on enough sets now where I've, I know when that's not the case. Yeah. Wow. And it's like, it's the same way that you guys probably run stuff around here where it's like they're playing music when they're changing the cameras over and like people are shooting the shit and like people are laughing and they're like okay we got it like we got to get our shit together and go here so I don't think that would change anything um you know

it would be interesting to kind of have a reunion and have a chance to see everyone after like Hudson's press tour and Connor and Francois and everything like that to be back in the same room that would be kind of cool yeah but I think with other characters no I don't think so like I don't think it's going to affect me. Again, like, I've kind of been five feet from, like, the laser beam of attention that the show has gotten. And especially with, like, Connor and Hudson doing Seth Myers and Fallon and now presenting at the Globes on Sunday, which is insane. Crazy. Right? So, you know, I'd like to think that it would all stay normal. And I'm, I'm feeling pretty good that that will be the case. But I guess we'll see. And I just want to, I do the note story, too. Do, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So on that, I can remember which pocket. on that flight after the flight attendant and moved me up and everything. And then a different flight attendant came over during the flight and was like, sorry to do this. But I love the show, whatever.

Can we get a photo? I said, absolutely. And then I was off the flight in L.A. and worked my way through the airport. And I felt the tap on my shoulder. And this guy came up and I could tell he was like really, really nervous. And almost like couldn't speak. But he said, like, thank you so much.

I love this show. And like, it's very meaningful to me. and then handed me this note and he said, this is for you. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. And then we took the photo and whatever. And then later in the Uber, I was reading it. And it's just like the sweetest message. I don't know if you want me to read it out loud.

But I took a photo of it and sent it to my mom and my sister. And they were both, like, crying or said they were crying via text. But, yeah, it's just like a lovely letter just talking about how meaningful the show is. And, you know, my portrayal of Kip is great. and just like wishing me kind of in all the best in my career and everything. It's so lovely. Like, you know, I think in this day and age

of social media is so accessible and I do get a lot of lovely messages from people, it's like for someone to see me in person, take the time to write it and then give it to me. Yeah, I just, how awesome is that? It's so cool. It's totally. You know, we always joke it's whenever we have meetings

about writing or acting or any of these projects and things get too intense and people start losing our minds. Every now and then we have a check-in moment of being like, we're making up stories. Exactly. Everyone calm down. Yeah.

But then when something like that happens, or even something as silly as us reviewing the amazing show that you all made and people telling us how much it meant to them. Sure. Those are the moments where you're like, you know what, this is a pretty sweet world and cool thing that we all get to do. Totally. So it's just the best feeling.

Yeah. And staying on your roles, because I'm obsessed with this topic. Yeah. And from what I can tell, you and I have very similar taste. Yeah. So I'm thrilled to chat with you about this stuff. I always love talking about what's next because, you know, as an actor, as a writer, you always do kind of want to think, okay, this is great, but I want to keep going.

I want to keep expanding and trying new things. So I want to talk about, you know, the things that you want to do in your career moving forward. And I know that you're a fan of cop procedurals. So Sheriff Country is obviously scratching that itch, which is amazing. But I also have seen that you really want to use your physicality as you should. and you're a big superhero fan and Marvel stuff was always in the realm of possibility for you and we're kind of thinking like, here's your chance, baby.

Yeah, let's go. Totally. But, you know, just in general, what are the types of roles that call to you, things that you'd be like, wow, I'd love to do something like that moving forward. Yeah. I mean, I think a charcutory board approach would be ideal.

Like I love doing something different every single day. And so I think that, you know, if there was days, that I'm able to do something dark and kind of moody. And there are some projects right now that my fingers are crossed that I'm kind of pretty close to getting would be ticking that box. Nice. So that would be sweet. But like ever since I was like probably 15 or 14, like it's going to be weird shit.

But it's like planet of the apes, something like that. I was like, I want to fucking do that. I want to work with Andy Circus. I want to like be there. I want to train as a gorilla. Like put me in. I know there there's more now. Most underrated trilogy of all time.

I agree. It's unbelievable. I love when people bring those movies up because I'm like, yep, it's truly one of the all-day. It's so good. It's so good. Those three movies are out of this one. I mean, they're all out of this one. Even was the most recent one, rise of plenty of people?

That was awesome too. They're all incredible. And the work that they do, like it's just like, I feel like performance capture or motion capture work, specifically Andy Circus's work is like. I just don't understand how people are not mind blown by it. It's like stunts in Hollywood. Okay. How are we not all like screaming from the rooftops and be like,

this is so fucking sick that we're able to do this? Couldn't agree more. Yeah. Have you ever seen the behind the scenes footage of Benedict Cumberbatch as Smog? Yeah, where he's lying on the pad. He's doing the... We were once skiing up in Mammoth with a huge crew and we were absolutely buckled at like three in the morning.

Yeah. And we were crawling around the ground, recreating that. And then one of our boys who is sleeping, like ready for a, you know, a bell to bell day the next morning seeing, woke up and came out of his room and he was like, can you guys shut the fuck up?

As we're just doing smog impressions. You're probably like, no, no, it's definitely close to this. I was like, you don't get it. Four time. Four people doing that. You don't understand what goes into this. But you are so right, man. I think that stuff is fascinating. When Andy has brought out the, the, the bipedal things when he's doing,

it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I think it's such a cool, different element of acting. Yeah. And if we can go through the last 10 years of the MCU, what is a role that you would have loved to play? Who did you want to be? Bucky Barnes. Oh, yeah, good one, Sean.

That's a good one. That's a great one. That's a great character. And yeah, it doesn't need to be your favorite character. Yeah, yeah. Character that you would have loved to play. Well, when I was younger, I was like, Tom Holland, I swear to God, I'll kill you for taking, for, like, Spider-Man. Because I was like, this is the moment and I was, you know, but I, like, he absolutely hit it out of the park.

So he nailed it. It's true. Yeah, he nailed it. Who else would I want to do in Marvel Universe, man? See, like, I have always been a Hulk fan, but I also think, like, filming that would be weird because you're kind of mostly in a green screen, like, environment. So, yeah, I feel like Bucky's a good one.

That's great. I mean, you've already played him spiritually as, you know, the heated rivalry fan fiction started as a Captain America. Yeah, true. Oh, is that true? Yeah, yeah. Well, Scott. Well, Scott, okay, yeah, of course.

That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't just think that you just looked like a good Bucky Barnes. It's because you've somehow played Bucky Barnes while not playing Bucky Barnes. Yeah, well, hopefully more officially. I mean, I'm getting a bit of Wolverine from you right now. That's what people are saying, like, I've seen some Instagram posts where they're trying to take photos of me as Kip and, like, edit it to look like Wolverine. And I'm like, these are not even close, man.

But, like, just find a photo. Like, I look closer to it now, of course, but like, well, I'll tell you have the body for. That could work. I'm interested. I'm interested. I'm interested. I do need to ask. Yeah.

What's the routine? Literally no routine. I will say that. No, I, no, no, no. Is it just smoothies? Act of, yeah, it's just smoothies all day. No, it's, you know, I've still, like, right now I'm not doing as much, but, like, over the last couple of months, I'm, like, going to rugby practice two days a week and then playing games on Saturdays. And I don't know if you guys have ever done, like, that'll do it.

But it's fucking hard work. Yeah. And it's great. And when you show up, it doesn't matter who you are. they're like, if you're not here to do like 27 burpees in a row in the mud, in the cold, like, get out. Yeah. I don't care who you are. Like, we're doing this as a team.

I love that. Yeah, that was, that's a, I mean, great exercise. And then, you know, going to the gym and whatever. But really, like, living in Vancouver, it's such an active lifestyle. So really, that's it. Honestly. And then shout out to my parents for genetics because that's. Okay.

That's the heavy lifting for sure. Wait, hang on. So it's genetics. It's sports. It's hard work. These are all the answers I didn't want. Yeah, okay. Crushing beers on a Friday.

Cushing beers on a Tuesday. So they're, like, I was kind of hoping it would be like a smoothie situation, but, you know, I can dream. Yeah. Do you know the recipe for, what's it called, Chris? Blue Moon over Brooklyn, right? Blue Moon over Brooklyn. Do you know the recipe for that? People do want the recipe.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know it because we used like pre. And that's one thing that I was like, so many people are chirping me on the show being like, you make a shitty smoothie because the smoothie is watering. And I'm like, as if I'm the person that's like in control of this. Newsflash, guys, this has been sitting out here for two hours because we're doing so many takes. It's actually blue paint. Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

But I, like, in an interview recently, they were like, do you make any smoothies? And at my house, we recently got a blender, which is like super cool to me because I didn't have a blender growing up in my parents' house. And so I found myself now making blueberry smoothies. And I was like, this sucks. Like, why am I doing? This is such a loser thing to do. Wait, what's your recipe for a blueberry smoothie? Frozen blueberries, frozen whatever, fruit, bananas,

like, way protein, yogurt, milk, water. That's it. And then I make a bunch extra and I go up to my, like, my roommate's, my one roommate, Chad, he works at a bank and my roommate in Mear, he's like a software engineer. And so, like, I'm the only one who doesn't have like a nine to five right now. And so I'm like making food for everyone. Exactly.

Exactly. I'm like I made extra, like, dine-a-thing. What a flex it must be to have a kip making you smoothies while you're working home. Yeah, those boys need to be more grateful. Hey, I heard you had to return the blender. Everything all right there? Everything's all right, yeah. We got a second blender. There might be some blender fraud going on right now, but I don't want to air that out.

Yeah, we don't need to sewer any blender companies right now. Well, you just said you're playing rugby now, which I think is so awesome. Yeah. Because we are still like beer league hot. Three times a week. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Good for you guys. But it's like you said. I mean, it is infinitely better than going to the gym. Playing a sport still. It's like, I'll do it until I'm 50. Yeah, totally. But you were quite an athlete growing up, baseball, football, all kinds of stuff too.

Was it always rugby was your favorite or did that come later? Yeah, so I played like soccer and then baseball stuff at a very young age and then did gymnastics as well. And kind of, and all those sports got to the point where like, I'm either going to go competitive or like, you know, pretty much stop playing. And musical theater and dance and stuff like that started to kind of take off more. So I did put more eggs in that basket.

But I come from like a football family. My dad's side of the family. My dad played provincial rugby and like probably could have played national if you wanted to. And my mom's side of the family, I'm actually wearing the great cup ring, which is like... He's going to ask about that. Yeah. So my dad, my mom's grand father, my mom's side is like a two-time Great Cup championship winner. And so I come from like a football family.

and played football growing up as a kid and played contact, but was so small that my mom was like, okay, we got to go to like Flag. Which I was like, Mom, you can't downgrade me to play. You still have me in the car seat at the age of 13. And now I'm playing flag football. And this was before flag football was kind of cool. Yeah, it's kind of sick.

So I did that. And then my dad in high school, my dad was like, you should try rugby. And our arts high school was like, let's start a rugby team because we don't have the equipment for football and all this stuff. So my dad coached the team, and then I was like the captain of our rugby team all four years

and then kept playing after that. Yeah. Yeah. And well, dude, you mentioned the dance because the heat of rivalry, TikTok put up a thing about like, who's the best dancer? Yeah.

And everybody was saying Connor. And then Cassania came on and said, that was bullshit that it's her. Yeah. And now I'm hearing that it's actually, that it's actually you. Yeah. So yeah,

we need the record set straight here. There's only one way to settle this. We need to have a call. That's what I'm saying, guys. Trust me. If you're going to bet on any sports betting, it's that. off. It's that. I'm telling you. This is where you get the inside scoop. We're hammering,

hammering Robbie to win this dance. It's incredible. So I'm glad we know now. I'm glad we know now. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. We're going to wrap you up with a game we call pass shoot score. Okay. It's basically just a ranking system. We're going to give you three things that we know you love and you got to rank them pass shoot score. Pass is going to be third. Okay. Shoot. It's going to be second, a little bit better. Score is the ultimate goal. And there's a guy who was in a movie called Mary Fuck Kill. This should be easy for you. This is, I'm seeing that. You get it.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, your first category is outdoor athletics. Pass shoot score, rock climbing, skiing, playing spike ball with the boys. Oh. I know, bro. Yeah.

Same one best for laughs. Pass, rock climbing, because I'm trash at it. Shoot. Wait, no. Shoot second. Skiing. And then obviously, spike ball with the boys.

I love. I know that you're a skier, so I was wondering if that was going to be a tough choice. Man, a good spike ball with the boy sex. Unbeatable. Is unbeatable. Are you a beach in the sand or a grass guy? Grass guy, cleats. Turf cleats.

Rattie. I don't fuck around, guys. I'm not, yeah. Oh, my God. I was so awesome. Okay, we got to play. But now I'm like, oh, shit, I was going to rinse you. I'm that loser.

Like, I have my cleats. This is just by chance. But my cleats in my spike ball bag are yellow and black. Come on. That, you know. know what? I don't think that makes you a loser. In fact, I love that. The passion is high. If I'm playing spike ball with somebody and they show up with cleats for spike ball, I'm going home. I'm not playing. That's what everyone thinks. And then the next time I play with those people, they come with cleats. And they're like, okay, I'm ready.

And are you, I mean, this is a stupid question. You're competitive. Very. Yeah. Very competitive. God. You're one of us. Robby's one of us. If you guys ever want to run a spike ball match, I will fly down just to be here for it. I'm so in. I love. Spikeball. Done. I also, I clarified it's better on grass. Yeah, because you can, we grew up, because you can get there. Yes. We started playing on the beach in this, I mean, we first found out about Spikeball. I think I was in college. And it's like, I brought it back and we were, we're on the beach in our little hometown in Maine all the time. Yeah. But you're right. It's like the soft sand. It's like, it's almost an excuse to be like, ah, I couldn't get that one. Yeah. When you're on grass, I'm like, I am diving and I am getting every single ball. I leave injured.

Yeah. I live injured every single time. This is my athletic. activity for the week. I actually hear about tennis elbow, spike ball elbow. Yeah, that'll get you. I took myself in spike ball timeout at a point in my life where I was like, I'm like losing friendships over this.

Like I'm going fucking, I'm gonna calm down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you a big skier though? Yeah, like relatively. I think it's a big scale. I would say I'm probably in the middle to higher end. But yeah, I grew up skiing with my dad in Whistler.

We're gonna try to hit Whistler this year. We're going to go to us. Let me know when you guys are there. 100% so I can go every weekend. There you go. Yeah, I love it. Easy. Absolutely.

I'm going actually on Saturday. I fly back in from this and I'm going to an aprey and Longhorn on Saturday, unless I got a Globes invite. But we're waiting here. Goves, globes. All right. Next category. Yeah.

I want to move on topics because I can't ski and I can't go with you guys. So I'm very, I'm massive fomo right now. Yeah. But musical theater. Okay. All right. We got Sound of Music, Jesus Christ Superstar, and West Side Story. Oh, okay.

I'm going to, I love sound of music, but I got to pass sound of music. Pulling out for Kurt Montrapp. I know, I know. I'm with him, though. I'm going Jesus Christ Superstar as the shoot, and then West Side Story is the score. I was hoping Jesus Christ Superstar would be the score.

I love Jesus Christ Superstar. I do too. I really do. But I think West Side Story is just like, just so, like having the women ensemble and the men ensemble and like having those dance breaks. It's perfect.

It's like, it's like perfect production. Yeah. It's also, it's just a classic as well. Everybody knows it. Everybody's seen it. It's phenomenal. You haven't done that one yet, right? I haven't done a production of West Side Story.

I've always wanted to do it. That's next. Yeah. We'll produce one. Yeah. We can all be the cat. Yeah, dude. Jesus, don't tell me with a good time, boys.

Okay, I almost hate doing this one to you. I know. That's okay. Your next one is Lord of the Rings. Okay. Pass shoot score. Okay. Aragorn, Legalis, Gimley.

Oh, fuck. I know, bro. I genuinely... I genuinely... I genuinely hate doing this to you. And it's tough, too, because at different stages of my life, I'm like, oh, I really fuck with Gilly. And, like, other stages, I'm like...

It's obviously, like, the clear pick. Imagine if we threw Gandalf in here. I know. Yeah, that would be a tough one. Okay. Pass is Aragon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm blown away by the bravery to pass on it. I know. shoot legless and I'm rolling with my short king game way all the way into a score easy yeah easy pick god he's got your ass sure I played him in the video game I can't remember what the video game is dude but there's like PlayStation 2 yes Robbie that was the open world kind of yep oh my god and playing his game and you could throw the axe of people unbelievable that was one of the great video games

of all that is one of the best class I'm so surprised they haven't done a remake I know Yeah. It's, it's, that game was truly incredible. Dude, they have made, like, more recent Lord of the Rings games that have also been very, very good, but nothing has really kind of captured the magic of that PS2 era. Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. There's a scene in the OC where the boys are playing that game. Really? And I remember clocking it so intense because I was like, that's how good the game. That game rocks. Yeah, that's so true. That was sick. That was good. Okay, your follow up, you were in New Zealand recently.

I was. Did you do any Lord of the Rings stuff? We kind of just by chance, like we're passing through areas. We didn't do any of Lord of the Rings tour. That was primarily, like, my mom and my sister's trip, and usually how that goes. I travel with them often, and, like, my sister does all the booking. My mom, shout out, mom, like, does a lot of the pain aspect. And I do all the driving and all the carry of the luggage. It's a good deal.

Good deal. It's a good deal. Great deal. But I don't, yeah. I'm not like an executive producer, like, on these trips where I can really. You don't have itinerary. Exactly. Yeah.

I'm not that clearance yet. And then, I mean, we're on movies, so just real quick, I saw recently that you rewatched the holiday over Christmas. Of course. Do you have a top three Christmas movies? I think we're still in the rum more we can talk about. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes, we are. I don't even know what the order would be, but home alone, obviously, without a doubt. Ooh. Holiday takes the cake still for me. That's my score year after year. And shout out to elf, I would say. Nice.

You know, like, I know their generic picks. I wish I was more of, like, a cinephile to be like, oh, have you heard of this? There's no such thing for a corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, there are Christmas movies for a reason. We watch them every year for a reason. You're supposed to feel cozy.

I wouldn't be me if I didn't do this. Have you seen Klaus? Clouse, no. Okay, I'm putting you on Klaus. Done. Netflix movie. Easy. Don't need, doesn't need to be Christmas to watch it. Right.

It's going to blow your mind. My mind. Absolutely incredible. It's absolutely incredible. It's a new release? It came out, I think, in 2018. It is true. It's my number one Christmas movie.

Wow. And that is hard to trump everything else. And it did. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay.

Your last one. Yeah. And God, because I know there's going to be, I wish I could give you 20 of these, but I'm going to give you three. Your last category is video games. Oh, you motherfucker. All right. Call of Duty.

Arc Raiders, Rocket League. Which Call of Duty? Oh, fuck. The whole franchise? No, you're right. I got to pick one. You got to pick one. You got to pick one.

and pick carefully. Can I pick which Cal of Duty? Yes, please. All right. Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, 2019. Yeah. That totally changes where I've seen before. Could have said black ops and it would have been easy.

I know you. I see you. I know. I mean, okay. I'm going to go. That's a good one. Rocket League would be the past. That's like a game I'll play,

but I don't have any friends who play it. And so it's just like, you'll connect. I got a whole career. What rank are you? I don't even know. I don't even know. All right, you're out.

You had to say a high rank in our business. At 3,000. Nice try, Sean. Three thousand. Sean's Pistee, can't ski. He sucks a rocket. Yeah. How quick that what ranker you came was awesome.

I'll never get any Robbie time. No, no, we'll still link up. I can show you a few things. Yeah, we'll figure it. Rocket League pass. I'm going to go. I mean, Arc Raiders is great, but I'm going to shoot Arc Raiders.

And then Mono Warfare 2019, I would say is... Might be the good. Between that and Black Ops 2 is the best call of duty, in my opinion. Yeah. And that's all I played over COVID. Yeah. Like all my friends got online. It was like, oh, it was such a dream those first two weeks.

As far as the gaming standpoint, not the worldwide pandemic, of course. But the opportunity to play with my friends who were all online, nobody had to work. We had like 40 guys in Discord, like doing... stringing it old-fashioned. Are you a headset? Duh. So I asked that because we just figured out why Scott and Kipp are so good at communicating

because there's no better communication than a bunch of guys playing hell of duty. Yeah, totally. Truly breaking down a warfare scene. The communicating in the show was a lot less aggressive. Yeah, true, a lot less yelling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm actually starting up my Twitch stream when I get back to Vancouver. I saw you had one, yeah, yeah, but it hadn't been active in a while, but he were coming back. Yeah, he's breaking news, dude. Yeah, Twitch stream back. I'm stoked for it.

I'm pumped. I had L.A. 100 Thieves, which is like a gaming corporation here. One of their, like, streamers reached out to me, so we're going to do a co-stream

and they're sending me merch and whatever, and like my, like, video game nerd is back. It's just, yeah, exploding.

God. Dude, well, so what... Streaming? Yeah, great transition to a question. Yeah, what are these... I saw a compilation of you doing these horror video games.

Yeah. Bro, that looks like... The hell's the matter of you. I'm a scary movie. Like, I'll watch them, but I do. I jump. and scream and you were torturing yourself yeah I can't believe that what are those and they're just

like it's like yeah they're like first person horror games that are out there and there's like a million of them there's some really good ones um that are like kind of story base and like you're like you're solving a puzzle or something like that but as a viewer like i started streaming those over covid and i notice that like people love to watch it because it's like that second hand it's easier to watch something scary when you have friends around of course and like it's kind of like that way and so i actually hate playing them but I know that the engagement is high because I know that I watch other people like this like when they're playing games. So yeah, but it's a lot of fun because like people are chatting with you and all this other

stuff and yeah, it's a lot. You're going to send me one of your favorites, send me a good one. Okay. And I'll take it for a spousy. I always tell late at night when I'm scrolling IG or something and those videos pop up. I'm like, I can't watch this. It's going to scare the shit out of me. But it's like dark in your bedroom.

Yeah. That's how I feel about spike ball. If I see Spikeball videos, no, but in a different way because my heart starts racing. And I'm like, oh, you've got me in there. Agree completely. So what horror game are you playing now at the moment? I don't have one teed up. I got to do some more research and see which ones are out there now

because it's been a little bit since I've been back in the game. Do you know what you're going to play to return your Twitch? I don't know. Okay, sick. Wow, that's a big decision. Yeah, I know. I'm not fired up. We're deep in the video game lore here.

Yeah, I know. Seriously. People are logging off. I'm stoked. Yeah. They're like, this guy doesn't play. Oh, my God. All right.

Well, Robbie, we've taken up enough of your time. This was so, so fun. for us. Thank you so much for coming on. Before we let you go, is there anything you want to plug, anything you want to shout out? Anyone you want to say hi to? Hi to my friend Dan, who listens to your podcast and has for a long time. Hell yeah, Dan. I told him I was coming here and he was like,

oh my God, so sick. And I guess like, you know, shout out to Jacob, Brendan, and everyone for giving me this opportunity. I wouldn't be here without them and Rachel, of course. So just stoked to be here. Hell yeah, man. I love it.

Sick. Now, it's getting me to the globe, dude. Give me that globe stick. Apparently, HBO still maybe trying to pull some strings, so we'll see. If you see me there, I'll wave to you guys. Yeah, that'll be correct. Yeah. Oh, perfect.

Sweet. Awesome. Yeah. Thanks so much, guys. Oh, you're kidding. This is amazing. Incredible.