Empty Netters Podcast - D2 Is The Most Patriotic Movie Of All Time | 128

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

The Mighty Ducks saga continues. This time, Willy D joins the pod to break down D2. This movie is unhinged, but is it better or worse than the first? NEW EPISODES EVERY MONDAY & WEDNESDAY!  SUBSCRI...BE TO OUR YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuf52MHW1O7guPMzsMvv2kA FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/empty.netters/?hl=en FOLLOW US ON TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@empty.netters (0:00) - Intro (1:25) - Breaking Down The Plot (1:12:20) - Awards Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ice is ready and we are back with another episode of the empty netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. Listen, we did The Mighty Ducks episode. Everyone lost their minds. So we are here back for D2, The Mighty Ducks with our good friend Willie D. Will Dennel and joining the pod. Thank you for having me, boys. First time watching D2. It was.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yeah. It was quite the experience. I got a text from Dan and Chris at about, I don't know, 2 o'clock today. Yeah. And they were like, listen, crazy ask, could you go home, watch Mighty Ducks and come back and record a podcast? Could as part of your job go home, watch Mighty Ducks, come back and record. And they said they'd buy me dinner. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I will say, you were so quick to say, yeah. Yeah, I was like, I would. Which we absolutely love you for. Yeah. That was an immediate thing. It was a pretty, pretty easy ask. I love that both of these episodes, we have popped a cherry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah. Unbelievable. Let's waste no time and jump right into this. movie. Redmond, when did this movie come out? 1994? It sounds like 88 or something. Did I make that up? Again, I haven't seen it. It's 90s. I would guess 94. It might be 94 or 95. I'll check. But we begin to the Mighty Ducks.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You haven't seen The Mighty Ducks one in a long time. Yeah. You wouldn't have remembered. But familiar credits, the nice blue, shiny credits. And we open on another classic young Gordon Bombay skating on the pond in Minneapolis, Minnesota scene. We get another shot of his dad, hit us right in the nostalgia loins of, here's a young Gordon, getting all the life lessons right on the pond. And we get a really nice retroactive line from Gordon's dad. No matter how far you go, don't forget your home. Wonder if that's ever going to come up. Yeah, probably not. Yeah. I believe also Gordon quits that year in the canon of the story. Yes. Because his dad dies the year, so Gordon quits hockey.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Oh, oh, oh. His dad's like, no matter how far you make it. And he's like, like, I will only make it a couple more weeks. I will never play again. Wait. In the first one, if you don't remember, he... His dad died and then he got in a D-Y or whatever? No, no, well, his dad dies. You're jumping ahead like 20 years.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Okay. He dies. Then he plays in the championship game and misses in a shooting. Oh, oh, got to, got it. That's right. Presumably quits hockey. 20 years later. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But now we get, folks, we go to, from that scene to see in Gordon playing for the... Is it the Minnesota? waves are the Minneapolis. Oh, is that a, like a novelty shirt from the, okay. You tell me, Willie. You tell me. I thought maybe it was a real team. I bought that shirt for Chris in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:02:44 That's awesome. But here we go. 66. Is that kind of an homage maybe to that? It might be. Yeah. We get Gordon playing for the waves and he's dominated. 29 years old, getting his shot in the H.L.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And the announcer says that he is one short step away from the NHL, which is just They say him, they'll see him there soon. Yeah. He's like, we'll see him in the energy. He's dominant. And he's like 30. Yeah. And he's also, in that game, I hope this isn't jumping head too far, but he pulls off
Starting point is 00:03:13 the triple deke. Oh, yeah. No one's got tape on him, dude. Doesn't look effective at all. No, no. It's not, it's like not even really a, he just kind of like handles the puck a little bit. Actually, we've really kind of figured out.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Triple Deak, there's not much a deke going on. Literally just a side-to-side stick hand. And he hasn't played since he's nine, I guess no one would have tape on him. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. However, there's a lot of talk about, I mean, like, people can't believe what he did one year prior with a pee-wee hockey team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:44 People, they're calling him the Minnesota Miracle Man. Yep. For what he did as a pee-wee coach, which is pretty great. But Gordon's dominating, he scores a goal. Then he gets pinned up against the boards and someone comes in. And you know what? When I was a kid, that, I remember thinking it was the dirtiest check of all time. I'm not sure that was a penalty.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah, it was a pretty clean check. It's a pretty clean shoulder to shoulder check And Gordon goes down Like he was shot with a 12 gauge And grabs his knee That's one of the funnier scenes I actually like He's like, oh, oh
Starting point is 00:04:12 His face is look on his face I never thought I said either Oh my God And dude there's so many easy ways to show Someone's knee getting hurt in a hockey game Yeah And getting hit in the shoulder Isn't one of them
Starting point is 00:04:22 It was crazy Yeah So boom Gordon's professional career over We then see Gordon getting off A shitty old bus A public transportation unit.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We're wearing a gas duck's hat, by the way. It's a Minnesota North Starz. No, is it? Okay, I thought it was a duck's hat. I thought it was his classic North Star's hat because he's wearing it at least. Yeah, yeah, maybe it was that.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Either way, he gets off, he goes straight to the pro shop, dude. Yep. Not to his home, not anywhere like that, but he goes back and then we meet Jan. Wait, who was the old guy that picked him up? Yon. Oh, that was Yon that picks him up in the car.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, yeah. But Yon, Willie, is not the man from the first movie. There's an old man who is also seemingly from somewhere in Eastern Europe whose name is Hans. Oh, what? And what's funny is I remember like being ready to hate this moment. And I'm like, who the fuck is Jan, dude?
Starting point is 00:05:15 And then in possibly the best bit of exposition I've ever heard, in one sentence, Jan is like, Hans, that fool. What does he call him something, a strudelhead? Yeah, yeah. He's like, he went back to the motherland for the holidays or something, so I'm left to run the shop all alone. I was like, well, that's where Hans is. You think that was like a casting thing
Starting point is 00:05:32 That they had like Hans was unavailable They probably wrote the whole thing As it being Hans And then And then last minute The writer was like I don't want to deal with this
Starting point is 00:05:40 So he just changed a H to a J And took out an accident Now it's young They just ADR just Yeah yeah We were watching with our buddy We were watching with Marty And our buddy Jesse Poon
Starting point is 00:05:49 And Poon when Gordon gets off the bus He goes He gave him a cane Oh precious Yeah He's got an old-timey cane Yeah Coming off with a torn ACL
Starting point is 00:05:57 And then Gordon goes And then Gordon goes and sleeps in the back room at the shop. And here's something I want to know. Is Gordon broke already? I think so. I mean, he probably never got, is there a... Well, Willie, in the first one, Gordon's a high-powered attorney.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Oh, yeah, that's true. So I'm like, you're probably making pretty decent money. Then he goes and plays in the HL, which isn't peanuts. Yeah. You're in the A. Yep. And then his career's over and he goes, and now he's sleeping on a couch in a hockey pro shop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I mean, maybe it's just a love of the game thing. He just wants to be around the equipment, smell the breathing the... Yeah. Back. Ast to. Yeah. But Charlie shows up. He's hanging around at the shop.
Starting point is 00:06:33 They both apparently know about Jan's famous breakfast dish, which is like a little. Oh, yeah. What's it called again? Something like something and sausage. I didn't. Heff and something eggs. There's also a very funny scene where he tries to sharpen a skate and gets like launched, takes feet to the side.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Fires into the wall. I was like, oh, I thought he's going to like slice his neck open. Dude, I want one thing there, Dan. Yeah. He goes, he goes, I can't make a living as a pee-wee hockey coach. And I'm like this. Um, Jack Riley does. Jack Riley is the hawks coach from one is rolling in it.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Absolutely. I think maybe you can. So we find out that Charlie's mom's remarried dagger. That was the love interest in the first one. Oh. Then please circle that because I have a point that I want to save for later, but that matters. Got you? Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And then Jan asks if Ducksworth, the partner at the firm he worked at has reached out to him in. He goes, I'm not a lawyer, Jan. I'm a player. And I'm like, Gordon, you quit hockey at 10. Yeah. And then hated hockey Until you, because of a drunk Driving incident, had to coach a bunch of peewees
Starting point is 00:07:34 And then one year later you were in the HL We're not allowed to call you a player yet It's some insane talent Yes, yes You can take 20 years off Insane But then Jan says that his sources say That Team USA does not have a coach yet
Starting point is 00:07:48 For the Junior Goodwill Games And what do you know After one 30 second montage of Gordon Sharpening Skates Don Tibbles of Hendricks Hockey shows up He says the job offers there if he wants him what he did with the Ducks was a miracle
Starting point is 00:08:02 and boom and the tournament starts in three days and we do not have a coach so this is not good they're bringing him in and feels like the stars really long yeah she brought up a great point if you hadn't been heard oh my god
Starting point is 00:08:14 the timeline's real fucked up in this movie but apparently the HL season's in full swing now like the junior goodwill games are happening this is what I wanted to say dude he's playing hockey in the middle of an HL season that's certainly deep enough that he's dominating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Right? And then it cuts to, like, Minnesota and it's raining. And I was already kind of like, wouldn't it be snowing in Minnesota, like the middle of winter. Yeah. But then they're like, it's summer. The junior goodwill games take place in summer. They even say that later.
Starting point is 00:08:41 They're like, it's L.A. in summertime. And the Hawks kids are like, the ducks beat us last year. So it's not like this has been years, like literally. It feels like it's possibly been like six months. Literally in March, in March, the ducks beat the Hawks. and now it's midsummer, but Gordon Bombay has played half an AHL season.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Come home, Charlie's mom is married. She met a guy and married him in two months. Hans left? Hans is gone. And for what holiday? Like, it wasn't Christmas. He was there. Fourth of July is huge in Eastern Europe.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Dude, I was literally like, what month is this, dude? That was fucking nonsense. Almost respect their lack of commitment to the timeline. Yeah, like real, real confusing stuff. But we get a great, one of the great Mighty Ducks movies montage of Gordon shows up with the duck call. Yeah. Charlie rallies all of the team together. Oh, yeah, there's an all-time one where he's like does it when he's about to kiss the girl.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah. Yeah. I have a note on that really. He goes and gets Jesse who is a bucket. Jesse's just good at hockey. And Jesse continues to rollerblade around in the summer wearing his hockey pants. Yep. Which, by the way, looking back.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Those were purple duck pants. That was a bad move by the costume designer. Ooh. You can't have them in those yet. Yep. Then Gie is about to kiss Connie. And I have to just stop and point out, Gie is a all-time wheel.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Yeah, dude. That kid, what Gie Germain is wearing in that scene with the two rings on his finger, like he would look cool right now in 2024. I can't picture it right now. I gotta go watch it. Oh, dude. I'll send you a picture.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Okay. It looks unbelievable and he's back to the chick. unbelievable. Then they get Goldberg, who was apparently about to move back to Philly, but his family owns a deli in the middle of Minnesota. Got it. Feels like a crazy move. We get the moment with the Hawks players who are pissed off.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Holt and Reid bundles them. The team is back together. Great stuff. I will point out, you definitely won't remember this. A lot of ducks noticeably missing. Yeah, sure. Jesse's brother, Terry is not there. Karp's not there.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Peter not there. Timmy and Tammy. Tommy and Tammy. not there. So we've called the herd a bit. It was interesting that there was no mention and not that I needed much explanation in this movie, but there was no mention of why Team USA
Starting point is 00:11:04 is almost entirely the ducks. Is there a reason? No, no. Like I just thought they might have been like, you guys were so insane last year and chemistry so good. We thought it might make sense, you know, like a trouble really lot.
Starting point is 00:11:17 They want Gordon because he's a miracle worker, so he gets to bring his team. He's like, yeah, he's big enough. He gets his baggage. Yeah. He comes with this package. That's good. So then we get Don Tittles, Tibbles, who gives Gordon a fat daddy contract with Hendricks hockey.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Unbelievable. And then we see kind of what you're talking about in the news and a newspaper that there will be some new ducks joining the flock. And then we get a great montage. First we see Luis Mendoza of Miami, Florida. Classic hockey town in the mid-90s. North Miami. Luis Mendoza flying around on the ice, one problem. The kid can't stop.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And yet he is one of the best in the country to represent Team USC and the Junior Goodwill Games. Thoughts, gentlemen. Inexcusable in terms of the oversight in terms of his training and preparation. I don't even understand how you make a one shift. There's no, it makes no sense. Dude, Willie, I've said. Disney movie or not, this is one of the moments for me where I'm like, you got to be kidding me. Maybe he's bad at stopping.
Starting point is 00:12:21 There's so many things that we could have done. Like maybe he can't, maybe he like, turn left. Yeah. Yeah, maybe even that, like, he has like, yeah. That would be better. There's no workaround for not being able. This is deep in hockey, but like most people, do you ski at all? I scouting snowboard.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Like, most people can, when you're learning to skate, can stop one way. Yeah. Like, you can stop this way. And like, a lot of camps is like, I still can just stop one way. Yeah, there you go, dude. So it would have been sick to be like, oh, Louise can't stop this way. Yeah. And then, you know, you still get your, like, he stops that way.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, put it in. But, dude, I have said many times, Luis Mendoza being on Team USA, this is essentially the Olympics, dude. This is like the world juniors. Yeah. And Luis Mendoza, not being able to stop
Starting point is 00:13:02 and being on to the USA is the most unrealistic thing in a sports movie, including movies where a golden retriever is playing. That is more realistic to me than him making Team USA. An airbud is literally a more realistic plot point than Luis Mendoza being on this team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Like, you go to me. Yeah, it's insane. Dude, you can't stop. Absolutely insane. I also can't get over, and hopefully this isn't jumping ahead, but I feel like it wouldn't come up in any other context. But the can thing that they end up training him to stop looks like such a bitch to set up. Really? Like, think about the time it would take... And it's not serving any different...
Starting point is 00:13:37 It's just a wall, but the V, I guess. Put anything there. Like, I don't know what... Like, what person involved in this? Like, the director was like, you know, it looks sick. And it doesn't even look cool. It doesn't look cool. It doesn't look cool.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's not like it explodes or anything. What my favorite part about that is Yon. Yon like rolls his eyes. at one point. I have to set that up again. And my favorite part is, there is a PA who actually had to set that up again. It just went to do his way. That PA's watching the actor rolling his eyes and he's like, I have to
Starting point is 00:14:02 do that. Or he read the script. He's like, what the fuck is that? I'm going to set up 50 cans on top of another. It's fucking unbelievable. So then we meet Dwayne Robinson. Austin, Texas. Apparently the best hands Don Tibbles has ever seen including NHL play. He says to Gordon. Then we meet Julie the Kat Gaffney
Starting point is 00:14:20 from Bangor, Maine. Shout out Maine. Shut up, Maine. Not up Bangor. We're just going to not talk about the fact that we're not playing co-ed hockey in World Juniors. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's one you got to overlook just for the sake of like, they were definitely just like, this would be cool for like a little girl to watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 You know? So I'm going to give them that one. Me too. In the context of everything else. Yeah. I'm okay with that. Connie and Tammy were already on the team in movie one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 We couldn't get Tammy back, but Connie came back. Not like the goal. Not like the goal. got any plank time. Dude, seriously. I think a tragedy. Then we meet Kenny Wu. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yep. Who is a figure skating champion. They always have a figure. They love a figure skating in the box movies. And then we get Dean Portman, who's literally wearing a walkman and cut off sleeves at the practice and beating up his own team. Yep. That guy's ultimate badass.
Starting point is 00:15:11 So just like really beautiful stuff. We've got a scrimmage to start with all the new players. And this scrimmage is full on mayhem. Of which there are four, by the way. Like there are four new players. Yeah. So Blumbe's like scrimm, and Julie, who puts she's in goal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Oh, yeah, yeah. Scrimmage. And I'm like, well, they have four people. They don't have numbers. And there's like seven ducks. I don't, I'm gonna be honest. There's like, I feel like half the team, like I, I don't, I couldn't really put my finger on. Like they could have swapped them out mid-movie and I wouldn't have noticed.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And we know with the little amount of people they had, there must have been different jersey wearing at moments. Yeah. Yeah. But in the scrimmage, we've got full on mayhem. Yep. There's literally a point where Fulton shoots and Gordon screams lookout, which is just really hilarious. Fulton's shot is that crazy, that it's dangerous to everyone on the ice.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Tibbles gets a concussion. Taking the Fulton shot off the post. That's a buddy. That's right, the ducks. We meet Michelle. She goes, duck. Yeah. He goes, that's right, the ducks.
Starting point is 00:16:11 That's pretty clean, actually. Really great line. We meet Michelle McKay, the team tutor. The kids try to butter her up to not go. to school but no, no, we're not getting. Doesn't fly. Something about that. One's kind of harsh.
Starting point is 00:16:25 One, I stand by. She is like, you're going to miss so much schooling, you know? And these tournaments, Willie, are like six days. It's also still the summer. And my second point, it is the middle of the summer. They are missing no school. They wouldn't have been in school. Why are you doing this?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Truly insane. Truly insane. It's also like such a minor. They have like one's kind of school scene later, but The schooling, I guess it's just to have her there. But in a moment where Gordon and Don Tibbles, God, I love that name, are trying to convince Michelle McKay that these are good kids.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Jesse, Fulton, and Gee literally drive the Zamboni through the glass and boards and crash it onto the ice, which is just one of the great throwaway scenes of pure anarchy that these kids are doing. There's no resolution of that. I actually liked when Jesse goes, they go, sorry, sorry. And then Jesse goes, we're okay. Yeah, that is a good line. I was like, that was actually a good line.
Starting point is 00:17:24 That's fun. Yeah. So we have this big scrimmage scene where it looks like, like these kids are fighting. Yep. And then immediately we get a montage of this group of guys skating together to a song literally called Work Together. Yeah. And they start doing a like four square. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Under the tutelage of Dwayne Robinson. And then boom, one minute later, teams good. We are best. Yeah. Like chemistry out the ass. To your point, Willie, we then get a shot of a nice classroom in the park where Fulton gets dummied by Michelle McKay and the rest of the team when he asks if America always dominated in the ancient Greek games, which is felt like such an unnecessary Fulton's a moron moment. Yeah. It's only crazy he went because it goes, I actually get the point of it, but he goes, she's like, oh, that wasn't a country yet.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And then like you see a hand come in, they go, it's okay. Dude, I didn't have to kill him like that. Yeah. Absolutely brutal. But then we head to the games. our first game against classic hockey titan, Trinidad and Tobago. Dude, there's like a cutaway in that game to like their fan section that feels like racist. And I don't know anything about their culture, so maybe it's accurate.
Starting point is 00:18:31 But they're all just wearing like crazy colors and like... They have drums, dude. Yeah, they're like... Steel drums. That's crazy, right? There's a group of people with steel drums. And you know what? If I'm being honest, if Trinidad and Tobago had a hockey team, I wouldn't be shocked if the fan section
Starting point is 00:18:44 had steel drums because that would be gas. That would be cool. But it just did feel like a wild choice of the first team that we see playing against USA in the World Junior hockey game. Sick jerseys though. One of those tie-dye. Some of the coolest. Very, very popular beer league jerseys. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah, a lot of teams get the Trinidad and Tobago jerseys for beer league and think they're being really unique and creative. But they are sick, though. You're not, but they are sick. They are undoubtedly sick. in this game we see we get our first glimpse of Russ Tyler yeah pointed out yeah that that shocks me yeah that was that fun for you yeah it was very fun we get a text from Willie was that fun for you yeah it was very fun we get a text from really because I know he's
Starting point is 00:19:26 watching live and I just the Texas reads because I didn't even know you had started you whatever like I wasn't aware you were in yet and I just got a text says is that Cain and Thompson I was like oh yeah he well he looks the same yeah yes he's not he has aged like a fine fine fine it's yeah I mean 30 40 years later he looks identical What's great is we've got multiple decades of Keenan Thompson's career, and yes, he looks exactly the same. It's crazy. Yeah. It's like we've got that Keenan Thompson.
Starting point is 00:19:51 We got Kenan and Kel, Kenan Thompson. We got S&L, Kenan Thompson. Which is two decades. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's, and then, uh, what did I say? Did I say all that second? No, you didn't say all that. Because I say Good Burger.
Starting point is 00:20:05 You said Keenan and Kel. But yeah, like, good burgers in there, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, he's, unbelievable. He just has this, like, such, yeah, such a, like, unique to say. distinct look that like yeah it's unbelievable it was great i was excited to see him taking a quick break to tell you guys about our presenting sponsor bet m gm i don't know how many times i have to tell you about
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Starting point is 00:23:24 chemical. After this game, USA dominates. It's, you know, great stuff. We get a press conference where Gordon's talking, he's being very humble. And in this press conference, a reporter asks him how they're going to handle the undefeated Vikings from ICE. Heavy favorite. Heavy favorite. Heavy favorite, undefeated. USA is also undefeated. They've all played one game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:45 They played exactly one game. Let's calm down. But then we get our first glimpse of one of the great sports movie villains ever in Wolf the dentist Stanson. Yep. I thought you were going to say to Hendricks Bear. There's something. Oh, well that.
Starting point is 00:23:58 He's going to come up later. Yes, agree. Okay. Yes, he is. I have something to say. The Hendricks Bear is all time. But we get Wolf Stanson, who in the middle of a press conference says, Team USA is going down.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Like, just like a crazy church. And then later we overhear him saying, what happened to freedom of speech? I thought this was America. She's like, fair. Kind of a great line. Kind of a great line. And I'm like not mad at him for that.
Starting point is 00:24:25 But we get Wolf and we're like, okay, holy shit. Find out that he played in the NHL, but only one season. And Charlie Conway informs us that he collected more teeth than points. They call him the dentist. So they call him the dentist. And he got kicked out of the league for punching out his own coach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So this guy. Archie Griffin do that? Yeah. No, no, it was the Ohio State coach punch a player. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm thinking of. That's right. Yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So I'm going to carry away. So all time stuff with Wolf. Yeah. And then we move on and we see that Gordon gets his new digs in Malibu. Yeah. I flag that. Where the fuck is all this money in pee wee hockey?
Starting point is 00:25:02 Dude, in Hendricks. In Hendricks hockey, apparently. Like, I don't think Bauer could afford float. I mean, the war. way that this junior goodwill coach is getting floated. Like, I think even Bauer or CCM would be like, that's just too much money. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:25:17 Crazy. I'll say again, though, usually these tournaments are like six days, so like I could see the people we rented a place for a week. But, but, but, but, and I know they aim at this, but Gordon's like, shouldn't I be close to the team? And then he's like, there's so many of those jokes. Like, I can't do, I'm not going to sign with Hendricks. Oh, where's the pen?
Starting point is 00:25:33 Like, I can't live here. Oh, I don't need to be that close. You know, I don't need to be with them all the time. Yeah, but dude. Yeah. Imagine making that rip from Malibu to the USC dorms. That's where it was, right? And like, you know, for the non-ALA listener, sorry, but that is an unpleasant.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah, it's like an hour. Every day. Every day. Brutal. Like, you would probably be like, what about Beverly Hills? It's right there. Dude, my God. So we then see the kids in the dorms.
Starting point is 00:26:00 We get a classic shaving cream in the hand prank on Dwayne Robinson. Yep. We also get Dean and Fulton being best friends of me. And they chug a glass of milk, literally chug it, and then go, little music to fall asleep to, and then they hit some rock music. Awesome. Which then cuts back 30 seconds later, and they're playing air guitar with their hockey sticks. Yeah. If that isn't the most ideal, you know, you're 14 years old hanging with your buddy, you're in these dormant plant.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Like, that was pure. I was going to say that's one of the most realistic scenes in the movie. Yes. Yeah, I actually really, I enjoyed it too. It was like, yeah, took me back. Yeah. Absolutely hang with your boys. vibes very high. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:39 We get our next game. We're playing Team Italy, another classic hockey power. Yeah. I would like some explanation on why they pick those teams. I'll never get it. Hey, because it gets worse. I know. I jot it down something later. Yeah, I know. There's something that I'm like, what is going on here? So playing Team Italy, we see Gordon, he's a little cocky. He's like, we're going to win, but he still keeping himself humble, but we can see that something's changing in him a little bit. And then he runs into Maria, the Iceland team trainer. Oh, yeah. literally runs into her, yeah. Baddy.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Literally comes into her. She's hot. Baddy. I like. Here's the thing. She is hot. I'll just say it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And as Gordon's wheeling, Wolf comes in and interrupts. And again, Wolf is such a good bad guy. He is. Like Gordon's trying to make jokes and Wolf's not having any of it. And he's like, come on, man, hockey's supposed to be fun. And he's like, he interrupts him. He's like, supposed to be fun.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah, trust me, when we beat the shit out of you, we'll have fun. And I'm like, dude, this guy. Here's the all say about Wolf, though, is like, I feel like they should have have a couple kids that were always with him that were also mean tough guys because to me it was just kind of like pathetic Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:44 Like the fact that he's just like that old and cares that much Yeah It didn't seem like his team really gave Nearly as much of a kid Right and it'd be one thing if he was coaching Like pro certainly But like a college team or whatever But like these are like young
Starting point is 00:27:58 These are 10 year old children I think the only way you make that like more like intimidating is if you have like two kids That are like his like henchmen And also like bad guys Yeah yeah Because I didn't even really hate the players. I just hated him.
Starting point is 00:28:08 The person kind of does that. Like Riley always has like his heart. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you're like, yeah, I like that take, dude. Even after getting rattled by Wolf, Gordon goes out, USA, very confident 6-0-0-1 over Italy. Yep. They're buzzing. Goldberg's talking shit to one of the Italians, borderline racist.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yep. Yeah, what does he say? He's like, too many meatballs before the game. I don't even think I clocked that. And then he's like, how do you say an Italiano wussy? And I'm like, Jesus. Dude, that's the second time. By the way, Rusty, after the first one,
Starting point is 00:28:40 he goes, dude, someone calls someone else in Ducks one Wuss Breath. And Rusty was like, dude, Wuss Breath is way too close to Puss Breath. I don't know what's breath is. So like, that's crazy. And then in this one, Goldberg's like, what's the beginning of that line, whatever? He says, like, how do you say
Starting point is 00:28:55 Italian for a woozy? And I'm like, they are really flirting with like, I'm trying to call someone pussy in these movies, but I'm going to use the way. All right, there's a line. I have to. This is out of context, but I got, I got, out of getting said there was a line where where Bombay says that's the name right yeah yeah yeah says I wanted to quote I wanted to cream that jerk that busted my knee in the minors yeah he's a cream jerk busted in minors in the same set the only other movie since the fucking R Kelly doc to say those
Starting point is 00:29:26 four I couldn't believe it yeah that's not an accident like that feels like they snuck one in there Yeah, I mean, that is fucking good, including the minors is just. Yeah, ending on minors. Yeah, he's crazy. Holy shit. That is good. That is really good. So after the beatdown of Italy, we get a classic L.A. scene, like a lot of montage stuff. Gordon is doing a photo shoot with a bunch of Hendrix models because, of course, a hockey company has a bunch of models. He's then introduced to Cam Neely, Chris Chilios, and Luke Robatai casually at this party in Malibu.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Those are sick. I might not have clocked all those. Those are sick polls for the movie. Okay. Love to see it. Then he's talking to Kreme Abdul-Jabbar, and I really like how with Kareem he mentions, why don't we make an Air Bombay shoe
Starting point is 00:30:09 for all the kids who want to be coaches? Yeah. I like that Kareem is like, you think there's a lot of kids that want to be coaches. Why are we talking about an air shoe to Korea? That's what I was wondering. I was like, is that? I thought that was Kareem, and then he said that,
Starting point is 00:30:21 and I was like. Is this another Hans-Yahn situation where they wanted Jordan and didn't get him, and then they forgot to change the shoe line? I like, I like, oh, damn. I immediately flag that, too. I was like, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Air Bomb Bay. What air anything has nothing to do with Dude my favorite part This is a skip but it's relevant That should have been just like a funny montage line He pitched an air bomb bink low for to Kareem Yeah The scene or two later when Julie walks into his office
Starting point is 00:30:45 To ask to play which we'll discuss it out Oh I've written this down Okay yeah so wait for that You get so horny dude It's about this exact thing Yeah I know but it's so funny later Because it's so absurd Okay
Starting point is 00:30:56 So in this scene Great stuff Fun stuff then we see the kids popping around Rodeo Drive. They try to get into some stores. It doesn't work because they look like a bunch of rag tag kids. Crazy like depiction of L.A. Like they lean into like,
Starting point is 00:31:12 like they lean on a car and it's like whart, marrm, marr. And then like they can't get into a building because they're kids. Yeah, yeah. We don't allow kids to come into stores on Rodeo drive. The robotic step away from the vehicle really got me. Like the Rodeo drive thing is also preposterous but I'm like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Like maybe they're just being like, don't come in here. The door's locked. But dude, what? The car cars don't do that now. Yeah, they were like, this is an alarm warning. And they get recognized. Yes, we do. So they try to just do another store.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah. And Goldberg gets them in by saying that he is the nephew of Aaron Spelling. Had to Google. Yeah, yeah. I didn't. Who the fuck is Aaron Spelling? Oh, I...
Starting point is 00:31:52 Dude, Torrey Spelling's dad. And is Torrey Spelling on Beverly Hills 902 and up? Yes. Apparently Aaron Spelling is a legendary filmmaker and actor, but like old-ass guy. So... Dead, probably. right? They then get into the store
Starting point is 00:32:04 I won't speak ill. Here's my question for you guys. Sorry, Aaron. Why in God's name are these kids so obsessed with getting into department stuff? Yeah, and they wanted to buy a shirt. He said Goldberg says, I got my mom's shirt. I'm in Beverly Hills. But that's part of the line. Died in 2006. Died in 2006. Because like is when he says
Starting point is 00:32:22 all right, so this is what confused me. Yeah, because they don't actually want a shirt then. You're right. Right? And I was also confused, now knowing that Tori spelling is the daughter why does the person say I'm going to get something for your mom because he says Uncle Aaron
Starting point is 00:32:37 yeah but that wouldn't so he's like Uncle he didn't be his mom's brother but then I think he went in and said I want something for my mom yeah he just was he just was just pulling the cloud related to tort but that then we then we enter one of the
Starting point is 00:32:50 most bizarre scenes in the movie we get a bunch of Beverly Hills fashion store models modeling for these 14 girls and the camera it's like the music oh yeah and they're showing like their legs and stuff. One of them winks at them, the kids. Yeah, and they're cutting back to like
Starting point is 00:33:05 11-year-old, yeah. I mean, that's... After they do this full fashion show, Goldberg says his mom's looking for a bikini and then they get kicked out for being... Great line, but also crazy line. Really, we'll never get mad at Goldberg for taking a shot. I love how the woman at this
Starting point is 00:33:22 store is so appalled. What you just did was already insane. Do most Beverly Hills... I don't really go into those shops. Do they have models on retainer to model their clothing for people? Do they have three models on return? I think only for little kids. And orange juice
Starting point is 00:33:38 on ice. Yeah, that was I was wondering because she's like, she'll grab drinks for her. I was like, what are they going to be? And I was like, perfect. What's funny is I've known some places, especially with a wedding dress shopping, they'll bring you champagne. So maybe that was like that. Perhaps there is orange juice for the memo. Maybe you wanted a memo, but the kids just get the OJ.
Starting point is 00:33:55 There we go. Okay. All right. So. We'll give them that one. They don't get much. But another. The other Ducks movie where adults are being very creepy with kids. Is that happening in the first one too? That exact scene does not happen. There are creepy moments, for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So our next scene, CP, we get Julie coming into Talk to Gordon about playing time. And the scene does begin with Gordon on the phone with someone again talking about the air bombings. Oh, I don't know if I clocked that either. And he's like, it's a shoe, it's not a street shoe. No, he goes, it's not a skate, it's a street shoe. Like he's like really digging in. And then there's a pause and he goes, if you want a pump, we can put a pump on it. If you want a pump, we'll put a pump on it.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I can't believe, again, writers, maybe it was Emilio who really, but like doubling down on the Air Bombay joke. Yeah, crazy. Stunning. Stunning stuff that we needed more air bombay. If MJ was in it, then I'm okay with it. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So then Julie comes in, she asks about playing time. She's like, dude, I left my team. I want a shot here. Yep. And Gordon's like, you'll get a super fair request, by the way.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yes, because she is objectively better than Glebone. Yeah. Well, that's, yeah, I mean, I don't want to, one of my okay save it but I will say this then super fair request by her saying I want to play unfair request by her saying
Starting point is 00:35:10 I left my team in Maine because again it is July yeah yeah and they are not playing so you have yeah yeah yeah that is fair also you're in L.A. you're like I wish I was still
Starting point is 00:35:21 in Bangor Maine give me a break I think you're doing okay you're also on team USA just being on the team is good for your career yes she said although if I was behind Goldberg
Starting point is 00:35:29 I'd be getting this yeah I think I would be more just like out of pure logic. I'd be like what's happening. Yeah. This guy is awful. Yep. So we then see Dean and Fulton's missing curfew. Yeah, they don't get a fuck. And they find Gordon eating ice cream with the enemy. Eaton with Maria, the Iceland trainer, brutal stuff. The next day, we're at our game against Iceland. We're going to cruise through this game because it's an absolute. Can I say one funny thing about Maria? Or I guess two, really. Or is that, is that seen in any of your awards later? I don't want to
Starting point is 00:36:02 I don't want to bring it up. No. Okay. That scene, I actually, this is a commonly joked about scene, eating ice cream with the enemy for fans of these movies growing up. And it's like the kids rag on them and everyone's like, it's insane that they rag on them for that. I actually don't think he should have been having ice cream with the Iceland trainer the night before they were playing Iceland.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Like, I know she's hot and cool, but like, get her digits, dude. I agree. Here's my thing, though. He, his response disaster management when he gets confronted with the issue is really, All he has to say is like, dude, I was getting Intel about the team. Yeah. And then instantly they're like, oh, and then he's the hero. Nice, too.
Starting point is 00:36:40 As long as you spend as that, you're fine. You know what's funny for me is I genuinely have no problem with it. Okay. Because she's a trainer. Yeah. Not a coach. Yep. And I hear it, but part of me is like if I found out that the coach of Team USA was getting frisky with an Icelandic trainer.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah. I just more thought that there's like a day off mixed in there probably though Instead of the night before they're getting ice cream. Yeah They're not getting yeah if they're boozing yeah if they're boozing at the bar I'd be like all right That would be kind of time also like how she goes it's also probably 730 p.m. Yeah She goes I thought you know the landscape would be like Minnesota where you're from and he goes How do you know I'm from Minnesota? Yeah your nickname is the Minnesota Yeah
Starting point is 00:37:25 Also that scene I'm sure yeah that's a story is how millions of people from the United States learned that Iceland is green and green. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was wondering, because I feel like that's such like a cliche thing. I was like, is that where that came from? Yeah, I feel like truly that that is like a formative moment in geography for a lot of people. Yeah. It's remarkable stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:46 So that happens. We get to the Iceland game. Dean gets tossed three seconds into the game. He's clearly pissed off about that. Iceland comes out and just body bags us. Also, first time we really see the team, they are easily 25 years old. Yeah, 100%. Every single one of those actors, I'm like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:38:04 We get Russ Tyler in the stands talking shit again, really seating in there that he feels like he can compete here. Gordon says they're in trouble, and then he asks what Kenny Wu can do. And Kenny Wu says he's going to do some triple axle thing. It says he's going to do a figure skating routine. And he's like, great, get out there. Does not go well at all. So we also have Gordon shows up at this game. he's got a suit on his slicked back hair.
Starting point is 00:38:32 He is now full. He's wolf. Yeah, he's wolf. Like, he is lost in the socks. Oh, is that intentional where he's like trying to look like the guy? And that's why they're always like ragging on him for his hair all of a sudden? Yeah, like he says nice hair. I didn't think it looks that different.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Is that a crazy? Like, I was like, I feel like he's had this hair. It's not as slicked back. Like, that's the worst. But it is not that far off at all times. Okay. I give you. I'll give you that.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I like, don't think I really picked up on. Yeah, it was like, yeah. It's really just like, it's moved from like right here to here. Yeah, got it. But, like, he's got the suit on. Yeah. So, like, he's looking like an asshole. And he's just, he's completely lost himself.
Starting point is 00:39:07 He's like, you guys blow this game or one loss away from elimination. The team doesn't like it at all. Like, it's just brutal stuff. Then Julie gets tossed. Yep. But I do want to say this. Those Iceland boys, way too horny midgame. I flagged that too.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Way too horny midgame. Agreed. Like, they come over and they're like, oh, like, don't break a nail. Yeah. He's like, I'm sorry, boys, could you help me with my pads? And they literally go like this. Yeah. Like, they're like so thirsty.
Starting point is 00:39:34 But another, like, who's writing these movies where like kids are getting horny? Like that's the second scene where kids are getting horny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like two guys, what? Two on one. These two guys are like, I really want to help this. I have a legitimate question. Also, how do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 No, go, go. Well, how do you let Goldberg give? I mean, this is going to be a recurring theme in my complaints, but the guy gives up 12 goals. Yeah, it's not good. You pull him after, I mean, on the high end, like, five. Yes, yes, correct.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah. Like, there's no way. Tough stuff. It's a nightmare. Just bad coaching. The legitimate question I have about this scene is, at the very beginning of that game, who's taking the face of Averman and Gunner, I think, Gunner Stahl says something in Icelandic to Averman, and Averman goes, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:40:16 And Gunner goes, you'll find out. And then I'm pretty sure we never do. It means you'll find out. Oh, so he just walked to the center of his face up and said, you'll find out. Yeah. What is that? Is that like a chirp that's just so over my head It's classic mind games, dude.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Also, if you think that I'm being serious and that I know what that means in Icelandic, I'm just saying, but that could be the answer. He might literally just say, you'll find out. That would be a funny kind of, that'd be hilarious. Yeah, because otherwise I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:46 I was like, oh, I've never noticed this. Don't you think he probably says, like, we're going to beat the shit out of you? And he's like, you will, like, that's what he means by you'll find out. Yeah, I just felt like in the movie like this, they might have closed it. that loop for the for the for the uh uninform see i i disagree i felt it was appropriately ominous
Starting point is 00:41:02 like i was like oh we are about to find okay i like it's like something along the lines of like you're about to get shit pumped i will say though the the dentist's big speech at the end in english yeah right and i don't know if that happens i couldn't remember but i there's some inconsistencies there icelandic in english yeah who knows but you said to end that game we've got you know Julie gets tossed for that. Fulton gets a shot at the point. We see the worst block attempt of all time. Yeah, he goes.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Goley saves it. Puck mark in his hand after the announcer says he's going to have the print of a puck in his hand. Team loses 12 to 1. We get one Adam Banks goal. And then a psychopath literally cuts his arm in half. Two minutes. Yep. Julie gets tossed.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yep. Intent to injury. And the rest of Julie goes, that was intent to injure. And I'm like, what did you think that was when he broke Banks's his wrist? Yeah, just crazy. Ridiculous. After the loss, it was unintentional.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Gordon goes full Herb Brooks. Fuller Brooks keeps the team on the ice to skate more. He's going nuts with practices. And then Michelle calls one of the practices because the kids need to rest. Kind of the first moment where Gordon gets some sense enough. Yeah. She is pulling the Hans of last movie.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I was dying again here because I was like, they've been here six days. They're not that time. Yeah. And it's because they're too tired in school which is also, yeah, I mean... Which they shouldn't be. They shouldn't be in school.
Starting point is 00:42:27 But then, guys, we get Russ Tyler coming to their team practice because they're like, we need to like stretch and do some lawn work, which is what they're doing. Russ challenges them to a game and they go to an L.A. roller rink and get schooled in real hockey.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Schoolyard puck. Again, this is one... Some L.A. school yard puck. One of the moments where I am just truly blown away by these movies. That they go, you know who's really going to teach these kids who are, predominantly from Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:42:55 How to play real hockey is playing roller hockey in South Central Los Angeles. Dude, it was sick. I kind of love it. I kind of love it. But we play for real pride. Russ's brother, who is the Mr. Miyagi of this movie. Everything he's doing is about teaching these kids
Starting point is 00:43:13 have to be tougher and play real hockey, which is like just remarkable. We get a great little scene of them, you know, doing that. Then we get Gordon's records. I just want to say the knuckle puck is actually like an awesome invention from the movie writers. That wasn't a thing that people ever said in hockey. That's right. I was like, oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:43:32 The camera angles of it? Like they just like dangle the puck in front of a camera and then went like this is awesome. It's funny. You're right. We do get the knuckle puck in that scene. I actually really loved in that. Fulton goes up to Russ and Russ says it's hard to be accurate, but it drives goalies crazy. And I looked at Chris and I was like, I don't think he's ever shot on a goalie before.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah. He plays street hockey and he's shooting into a barrel. Yeah, yeah. I would he know. I don't know what goalie. face to it. Yeah. But really remarkable stuff. So then Jan comes to visit Gordon at his beautiful home. It breaks into
Starting point is 00:43:59 the mansion. Yeah. Basically tells them to get a grip. The USA people, they wanted Gordon because Gordon could teach them to fly. Not because he was some hard ass. So we get another great montage of Gordon rollerblading on the beach. Looks like it was right out there. Yeah, it looks like it was right out there.
Starting point is 00:44:15 They had the lifeguard tower. I will say epic shot there of the sunset. Yeah. Yes, Dan. And Gordon just like watching with his stick on his shoulders. Like that was chills. Yeah. It was like true, true chills. So then we get the next game against Germany and Gordon no shows. He's late.
Starting point is 00:44:30 That I don't get. Insane move. He's already had his like, like in the classic like movie like plot line. He's had the reckoning. And now it's lesson. Yeah. And then he's late. That's insanity.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Just no shows. So then they grab Michelle McKay to be their coach. And this is one of my great like what is going on in this movie in this game as they're they're skating around. Michelle says they look tired. And she's like, we need to like change places. And Averman and Charlie are like, huh? And they're then like, oh, scream change it up.
Starting point is 00:45:05 And she does. And then they change it up. And I just like, another one. If you care at all about the game of hockey, that is just such a fucking preposterous plot. Yeah. Because you're like, has one line been out the whole game? Yeah. And the game. And the fact that they didn't change it up. So yeah, they're like not question. Questioning it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:24 They know she doesn't know shit about hockey. She really must want us out here. We need different players. Like, what? Dude, I like great before that when the ref's like, no coach,
Starting point is 00:45:32 no game. And she goes, what are you waiting for? The ice to freeze, let's play. The refus, okay. So true.
Starting point is 00:45:39 That's a coach. I do wonder, do you feel a little bit, like off the cuff, decent line? Pretty sick. I was impressed with that line. I was like,
Starting point is 00:45:46 shit. Like, pressure was on and she dropped that line. You're right. That's pretty good. Yeah. So then Gordon shows up mid-game. It's like the third
Starting point is 00:45:53 period. It's like crunch time. Gordon shows up with the duck call again, gives a big speech, begs for one more chance. Also lays a fat kiss on Michelle's cheek. What the hell is that? Not the time or place, do you? But I couldn't even tell if it was like
Starting point is 00:46:09 a romantic thing? And was Michelle like that we've been building to this? Or is she like, what the fuck? Yeah, whoa. And do they ever dress that again? Not really. And I got to say this. Gordon Bombay also, reckless. horny guy.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Dog. Like in the first movie, he's banging Charlie's mom. Now in this movie, now he's banging their teacher. Yeah, now he's banging their teacher. Kissing her on the back. And the other teams train? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Like, this guy. But I think there's a lot of, like, neither of those plot lines are at all really resolved or addressed. We do not water that at all. Yeah, like you would think, like, the romance would have like a nod at the end, too, with one of them. No, Gordon is just like truly, whatever woman is closest to him in this hockey setting,
Starting point is 00:46:50 he is gunning for him, which is just, really impressive stuff. Yeah. But they give him one more shot. You know, great stuff. They win that game. Still alive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Jesse calls out the flying V. Why don't they do that every time they get the puck? You would think it would be valuable, but we see it doesn't always work. Only against Iceland. Oh, oh, you're right. Yeah, right. But they win that game, great stuff. So this is where I would like to...
Starting point is 00:47:17 That was Germany, right? Yeah, that's Germany. So then we see the team. bonding again. We get another montage of like... We've got to bring them back together. Learning to play. Gordon says,
Starting point is 00:47:28 going back to basics. We get our Luis stopping in front of a pyramid of cans. Yep. Then we get a young... Yon is capable of teaching Louis something that coaches has been able to teach him for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:47:38 No one had set up cans in a new formation. Stop. Just stop, dude. And we also get the team crawling around on the ice. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that's training. But in the midst of this montage, we see that Banks has taped up his wrist
Starting point is 00:47:54 and he's been hiding it from the team. Your point, presumably playing this whole time. Your best player has just been playing with a hurt wrist and Gordon's, and he's like, I shouldn't have missed it. And I'm like, is Banks the best player from the first movie? So I didn't really know that he was the best player.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah, they don't really like... He's the one goal score against Iceland, but that's not... Yeah, I mean, that didn't really... If you're blind going into the... I actually didn't know that until just now that he was supposed to be like the best player. So...
Starting point is 00:48:21 Gordon is like, I gotta bench you. And I'm a bit like, no, you don't. You don't think. He's been getting away with it. He's been playing. Yeah. You've been playing. He's your best player.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I don't think we need to bench this guy. Yep. But we bench Adam Banks. We go back to the montage. But I do got to say, I think it's really hilarious. Gordon catches Adam taping up his wrist. Gordon sees it and he's like, all right, if you think you're okay, here you go. And he hands him a stick.
Starting point is 00:48:46 And Adam tries to grab it with the other hand. Yeah. Oh, does he? Yeah. And Gordon goes, the other hand. And I'm like, Banks is like awful. You didn't see what won.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Had to give a shot. Really had to give it a shot, but just hilarious move by Adam to do that. So after our montage, we then cut to a newspaper article, and this I think is one of the most preposterous moments in the movie to what you were talking about earlier. In this newspaper article, we see that USA beats Canada, and Iceland gets upset by Russia. So now they're tied in the stakes.
Starting point is 00:49:16 It's double elimination tournament, so Iceland has to lose once. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's also the moment, the moment. earlier in the movie where they say, it will be a double elimination tournament. I go, okay, they're going to lose to Iceland once and then play with the chain. I mean, it's the most telegraph. Dude, the two nations that have any sort of success in the game of hockey that are named, other than USA,
Starting point is 00:49:39 Russia and Canada, are the games that happen off camera. Crazy. Not showing USA Canada, but showing USA Trinidad Tobago is fucking insane. Is there like a part, it's like they want this, they want Canadians, like this too so they don't want to alienate the team that's supposed to be the very interesting hero no one's pissed off in Trinidad and Tobago yeah exactly and they probably sold a million
Starting point is 00:50:00 DVDs in Canada yeah yeah right and you know like they're they're just glad to be involved Trinidad and Tobago so that's great but what's crazy is like Wolf the dentist Stanson has a very serious Russian vibe yep in the 90s every other movie
Starting point is 00:50:18 Russia was the villain they definitely could have done Russia why didn't we just do Russia. Yeah, agree. Like, no offense, Russia, but that's your role. And do. Why we decided to make Iceland these like fucking bastard villains. I mean, the guys who did Miracle on Ice decided to make Russia the bad guys. Yeah, dude. And Dan, that made up story. Yeah. Since, since Iceland, but now Russia, since Russia would have to lose once off camera, it could have said, um, Russia upset by Canada. Yeah, just like separate. And then they're like, oh, sick. All the Canadian fans watching are like, like, that's huge. Russia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Yeah, throw him a bone. I just made my ducks another $100 million. Dude, one simple rewrite. Yeah. So Charlie says that, hey, you know how I've always said that I'd make a better coach than a player. I don't remember ever hearing. But he brings in Russ Tyler to take Adam's place because Adam is now hurt and scratched. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:11 So Russ Tyler comes in. The knuckle puck immediately beats Russia. Amazing stuff. We get a glimpse of Wayne Gretzky. Wayne O. Comes in, meets the team, unbelievable. Kind of random. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Extreme. It was like they found out, like, after having filmed three quarters of the movie that they could get Wayne for a scene. Because they would have him at the party before. That's what I'm saying. There was such a logical scene to have him. Yeah. Totally. Like, all right, throw him in there.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And, dude, he's Canadian. Like, they were like, he's here to congratulate you? And I was like, what the fuck is he came? He's probably pissed. They just beat Canada. So then, guys, teams buzzin. They're beating teams. Last practice.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Last practice. They go on. Don't need to work on any of the fundamentals. don't need to game plan for Iceland. They need to kick around a beach ball. Yes. Like, truly one of the great moments ever. They're kicking around a beach ball.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Averman picks it up. They're all facing this way. Picks it up, bats it, and they all look down to see they have not noticed the entire Iceland team with their gear on standing on the ice. In like a crazy, like formation too. Yeah, yeah. I was like when they blocked the scene,
Starting point is 00:52:17 they didn't even try to make it look like a way normal people would stand. It was like a school photo. Yeah. And also, before we get to, the outfit that Bombay has on in that scene, he looks like Rob Deerdeck. It's insane. I took a picture of it. The backwards hat, gray sweatpants and purple hoodie? Yeah, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah, yeah. This fit is crazy. Crazy fit. Ears tucked into the hat is one of the annoying things in the world. I just like, he looks like I've never seen this look out of him before. He's a beatneck dude. Yeah. He's a beatnik dude.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Then, after a good motherful. fucking from Wolf, we get, I think, the greatest scene in the movie. Three Post game. That game of three bar. Is that a real game? Oh, yeah. Okay. That game is electric. And it's actually, like, looks like decent hockey at times. Like, they're kind of wheeling around against each other. Yeah, that scene.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Carving. Really good stuff. Wolf beats up on Gordon. He's clearly making it physical. They're going prison rules out here. He gets up one-nothing, but then Gordon says, all right, dude, you want to play? I'll play. Starts tooling him. Gets him with what looks like the Triple Deak, but it's not the Triple Deak.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Then he gets him, strips the puck from him. Scores again. And yeah, that's when he's like, that wasn't even my triple D. He is beaking. Gordon's feeling himself. He goes right by Wolf, and then Wolf comes up, slash to the D.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Now, controversy. It looks like in the game he gets hurt, he grabs his right knee. Oh, it's the other? Now that is the knee that Wolf slashes. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure. We might have to go back and check the tape.
Starting point is 00:53:45 In the rollerblading montage, where Gordon's refining his love for the game. Yeah. He's got a wrap on his left knee, I'm pretty sure. We've got to go back and check. Before we make any accusations, we've got to go back and check. But I'm pretty certain. I mean, either way, he's fucked after he gets slashed.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Oh, yeah. And, dude, that is a just psychotic move from the dentist's dancing. Yeah. Like, what are we doing, dude? Relax. Somebody said, I would have been, if you're one of the players, that would have been sick to watch before the injury. Like, you'd have been like, holy shit, dude. Our coaches are going.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Oh, yeah, I know, exactly. Yeah, yeah, that would have been a lecture. Well, also, like, it was respectful how Gordon was, like, rolling with the punches. Like, he wasn't complaining at all. Which was kind of a consistent theme throughout the movie that I had a bit of an issue with. It's, they were getting, like, literally beat up on the ice pretty consistently. And they kept just being like, oh, they would have, like, one cutaway per game. And they were like, oh, come on, ref.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Yep. And they would just get away with everything. Yeah. So funny. Yeah. Okay. Morning of the big game. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Adam Banks shows up. Woke up. Pain was gone. Boom. But we've got a roster issue. Charlie Conway, actually, they all look at Russ, and Russ immediately starts to take off his respect.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Like, that's a all-time team guy. He's like, yep, I was the last guy in, but Charlie's like, nope, Russ can have my spot. Gordon says you'll be on the bench with me as a coach. Like, let's be honest, kind of chills. Yep, that was just good. Yeah, Charlie, from what I remember
Starting point is 00:55:09 was like his kind of right-hand man in the first one, right? And it sucks in the first one. They call him Spaz-Way instead of Conway because he's such a spaz out there. And he scores the penalty. shot to win, but he's not good. Got it. He's like not good according to D1. Everything you would think,
Starting point is 00:55:23 which is crazy. Game starts rough. Iceland gets out to a 1-0 lead after a wraparound. My God, do the creators of the Mighty Ducks love Rasty said that? Like there are wraparound goals everywhere. Is that the one where the goal gets tripped? Yeah, like they say Goldberg gets tripped.
Starting point is 00:55:39 After a six save from goal, like a good kick save, like actually good acting by whichever stand in. Yeah. But wrap around goal, crazy stuff. Russ goes out there, tries the knuckle puck, but he's getting ripped up. He gets stripped. Iceland scores on a fast break stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Then we get a crazy slash on Adam Banks and the best, best delivery of all time by Gordon Bombay. Do you remember that? I mean, I remember the slash. It cuts to the bench and like in such a high pitch. It sounds like it's fast forward. Gordon Baum's like Bay is like, come on, Ralph calls him for Christ's sake. I almost took his arm all.
Starting point is 00:56:13 And it's the greatest fucking live delivery of all time. So then Dwayne gets murdered from behind after being a puck hog. Iceland breakway, 3-0. Then they try the flying V. Blown up. Yep. Enter the zone, blown up, and then we get maybe the first ever five on O in organized hockey history for nothing. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Then the bash bros go out there. They hit some people. We're in the second period. Kenny Wu gets out, splits the D with a triple axle. This is a great goal. Yeah. Fulton hits him back door up for one. It was weird to me that that just worked this time, though.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Yeah, yeah. And the last time he got... Yeah. Can he this time? Try this. Do a fake act or whatever. Yeah. But he was just like...
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah. Anyway. And I like... And that was against Iceland, too. Yeah, that's what I mean. It was the same exact... Yeah. I like that he got the puck back to get the...
Starting point is 00:57:03 Me too. When you make the move and get the goal, it's always satisfying. Pretty sweet line by Fulton, too. Yeah, he's pretty cool. He's like pretty cool, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah. So then after Kenny scores, he jersey pulls the goalie and starts punching him he gets tossed in Iceland really mean team cheap shot and all over the place their goalie's getting dummy they do nothing yeah unbelievable
Starting point is 00:57:29 so he goes in there then the bash bros they start hyping up Kenny they take their helmets off on the ice pumping up the crowd go up and down the bench helmet tapping all of team Iceland they get misconduct bonguing Iceland
Starting point is 00:57:44 So now they're in the box. Me too. But I will say, Dan, it wasn't misconducts. Like, their refs keeps saying two minutes. But he says, the announcer says, they'll both get misconducts. Oh, yes. But then the refox's up and goes two minutes, two minutes. Well, it's all minors. Well, dude, they in the game against Iceland before, Dean gets tossed. No, I was just doing like a play on words. Oh, God. You're such a jerk. Yeah. I'm making cream over here. But dude, I can't believe that people are getting tossed. For shit.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Also bust and bust. I'm going to bust and burn on mining. And here, everyone's two minutes. I guess at the championship game, you got to swallow the whistle a little bit. I mean, yeah, there is an element of that. It's like, respect, really swallowing the weather. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:28 So we've got three ducks in the bucks for jackassery already. Yeah. And the three, don't they say something? The three batch brothers. It was Kenny Wu. Yeah. Yeah. Then Connie Moreau goes out on the ice.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And Charlie says, be careful Connie, they're gunning for you. I don't know why. We've not seen Connie be a star. There's no evidence of that. Apparently, the Iceland team really hates women. Yeah. And they're like, yep, just watch out. There's no evidence of that at all. There's no evidence
Starting point is 00:58:57 that Connie is being gunned for. But Connie goes into the boards, is digging for a puck. Horribly. Duane Robinson on the bench has enough time to see that Connie's in a bad situation. So he grabs his lasso that he has brought onto the bench, goes out there and ropes this guy. Yeah, that is one of the worst scenes in the whole movie
Starting point is 00:59:17 That is one of the most Obviously it's all ridiculous But that's where it crossed into like I fuck It was just starting to care that they won And now I'm just like what are we watching? It's just really I can't believe the rope was on the bench
Starting point is 00:59:31 Yeah, yeah I mean he's from Texas It's really interesting That like that is became a, it's like two minutes for roping I mean like that's like a famous moment But I just don't think for a good thing No Yeah, yeah It's bad.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Dog shit. Also, it's like, I feel like consistently with the girl characters. Like you're saying, like, well, why do they include girls? Oh, maybe it's kind of cool. But then it's like, the one girl gets out there and then she has to get, like, saved dramatically because she can get her shit rocked. And then the other girl gets immediately, like, hit on. And hit on.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah, exactly. It's kind of a... It's a real tough stuff. Yeah. Tough stuff. So we get into the locker room after that nonsense. The ducks are all fired up. But Gordon's like, would you enjoy that?
Starting point is 01:00:09 Well, so did they. Because they're about to kill us. We're still losing four to one. Yep. Then we get a truly great Gordon Bombay speech. And this is the first time in my life of watching this movie that I noticed this moment. You guys remember the little throwaway line that Gordon's dad said to him in the first scene in the movie. No matter how far you get, don't forget where you come from.
Starting point is 01:00:32 And then Gordon makes them all say where they're from. Where they're from. I was like, holy shit, dude. I thought it was funny because I was thinking about it in the context of like the miracle on ice scene. I was like, this is the opposite of the point. that Herb Brooks was trying to make. It was like, let's all divide ourselves up by different factions.
Starting point is 01:00:48 We're not from the same place. Yeah, exactly. That's literally, I was like... Dude, Dean Portman goes, Dean Portman, United States of America. And one's like, no. Yeah, it's like, no. Where are...
Starting point is 01:00:57 Be more specific if you're actually from, dude. You're ruining this. It's the exact opposite. That is fucking hilarious. I've never even clocked. I was obviously like, this is the miracle scene, but I never actually figured out that it's the exact opposite.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah. Is that on purpose, you think? Well, I think it's because of the dad line, 100% which I never thought about either but you are that is killing me dude I'm like no you I couldn't believe it I was like yeah I thought maybe it was gonna go that way at the end and they it's like it's like miracle came out almost 10 years later and they're like do everything opposite yeah oh I guess miracle was after well but yeah not the actual thing but did the real did that speech happen in real life too well we don't know that it was they've said that they've said that yeah but like
Starting point is 01:01:36 there's no like tape of that speech like that but do you think they maybe knew about that was that like a documented thing. After everything we've seen and talked about in these they did research. There was no fucking chance the research was done by the producers and writers of this movie about what happened in that game. True. No fucking case. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. So after the speech
Starting point is 01:01:55 great stuff, Jan comes out and he's like, it's time for ducks to fly under a new banner. He gives out the jerseys and we pointed out the jerseys, gloves, pants, everything. He's already informed the scoreboard operator. The fans, no, the chance. It's insane. They start
Starting point is 01:02:11 chanting we will we will quack you but I love we just get the announcers go like this we've just gotten word that there is no rule for changing uniforms midgame I really love that of all of the things that we could question in this movie yeah they were like we got to throw in half the audience
Starting point is 01:02:27 the audience will riot no one's gonna ask questions about this really stuff yeah after like two minutes earlier like I got lassoed on the ice I got a two minute minor so game goes on Connie gets actually you know what I want to point out quickly Charlie early in the movie,
Starting point is 01:02:42 I forgot to mention this earlier, when they get their Hendricks hockey USA jerseys. Yeah. Charlie goes like this, we're ducks. This is Hendricks all over it. And he then even suggests that they change their name to the USA Ducks
Starting point is 01:02:55 or at least use their own colors. And I'm like, hey, dickhead. Yeah. You're playing for team. This is like the greatest honor in the world in sports to play for your country. And he's like saying that shit.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And then they come out here in this movie. and literally throw away their USA jerseys and come out playing for the day. It's a pretty unpatriotic batch of kids. They don't seem to give a shit that they're playing for the country. God no. At any point. God holds up that jersey like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Why doesn't this say ducks? Awful. Because it's the West End. Yeah. On the Olympic team. So, it's crazy. Connie gets on the board quick.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yep. Brutal turnover by Averman, down 5'2. Then Charlie draws up an alley-oop from Santa Rice. Which he learned. In the hood? Which he learned in the hood. Because remember the dude from the car. Oh.
Starting point is 01:03:40 toss that back and the guy goes, no problem, kid. Alleyoop. throws it to him. Great stuff. But a little bit like, oh, they went to South Central L.A. and learned to Allie Oop. As you do. Using the hockey game.
Starting point is 01:03:51 There's some weird stuff going on there, is all I'm saying. Then Luis gets a breakaway and is shocked that he stops and snows the shit out of the goalie. Yep. He scores. We've got five-four game. Put it in, Luis. Yeah, I like that too. I like that when he finally stops, it has like a consequence that leads to a goal.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Totally. By the way, do you notice that? that Luis Mendoza is Benny the Jet from the Sandlock? Dude, I didn't know. Oh, no, I did not clock that at all. Yeah. The Keenan Thompson was the only one I read. These movies must come, like, he looks pretty similar. These movies must come out like one or two years apart. Like, good run for that.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Like I was on a, yeah. That's a heater. I have a question. You guys play hockey. Is there any scenario in which you could actually like smoke screen the goalie with your... That is not allowed, sir. Oh, oh, it's like expressly... Oh, you could do it. You could do it. The snow. Like, it would be effective. Oh, if you... If it was legal? That's what I'm wondering.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Hard enough. You can get the snow. that high up in that. I suppose, I suppose, honestly. If it happened that fast. And in games, usually after the whistle, because he'll be down really like covering a lot. And you come up and you spray him and they're like penalty, dude. Got it.
Starting point is 01:04:50 But if you were like on a breakway midgame and stopped so hard for the net that it got in his face and then you just shot it in, I think they'd be like, oh. Yeah, but after whistle, that's not allowed. But that, yeah, probably fine. It's kind of crazy that no one on Iceland is back checking hard enough that after he came to a full stop. He was completely bamboozled that he stopped,
Starting point is 01:05:07 that he would maybe get the play broken up. He built up too much. He's Lewis. He's Lewis Hamilton. He's not Luis Mendoza. He's Lewis Hamilton. So then after Russ tries to get out there again for knucklepuck and gets stifled, Gordon calls a timeout where apparently, unbeknownst to anyone, the goalie gets fully out of his equipment and changes with Russ. I legitimately rewinded the movie the moment.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I was like, I spaced out what happened. They don't explain. No, dude, they do a full gear change during the timeout. But they cut to Iceland. getting his speech in English. Yeah. Yeah. Because Bombay goes,
Starting point is 01:05:44 here's Goldberg, I've got an idea. Cuts to I'm. And they're not looking to it because they're huddled up. Yeah. They didn't notice. It was quick.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yep. The crowd would have been like, I mean, the crowd would have been like, no. How long is that thing? Dude. Like, how long?
Starting point is 01:05:58 20 minutes? No, but like 10. No, no, no. No. But like, it would take a good, that kid all the way out and put the other kid all the way in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 So, anyway, they do that. then they go back out on the ice, pass the puck back to Goldberg, and it's actually Russ. Wolf sees it, it's too late. I was actually impressed, so as a goalie, you cannot cross the red line.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I made a note of this, I was curious. So that, what he did was legal? Yes, but... How do you score for it? He's so far back. He stops at his own blue line. He's in his slot, Dan.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yeah. But then when it cuts to him, like, when he's shot, he's clearly in the office. offensive. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. And I was just like, oh, this is like, it's, it's been too long of a camera journey. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just fucking shoot it from there. Scores with no time left. At the buzzer was crazy. Yeah. Is that, if the bucks in the air? No, unlike basketball, has to be in. It has to be over the goal
Starting point is 01:06:57 line. So scoring with no time left is virtually impossible. They kind of tried to do it like, it was at the buzzer situation. They do it at the buzzer in D1, too. Yes. This is crazy. So yeah, do you know, I'm just, Sorry, I remember there was a Crosby, like, he did that against the Bruins, like, a few years ago. I don't know why. You fucking would remember. It was like a tenth of a second, I remember.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Oh, I do remember this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was crazy. Yep. Fucking sick. Go to the shootout. Jesse scores immediately. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Jesse is dope. By the way, it doesn't get talked about enough. Then Iceland goes after a terrible poke check attempt by Goldberg. Wait, Jesse is... Jesse Hall. Black Kid. Number nine. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:07:38 What's the name of the number number nine? backup goalie. Julie the cat Gaffney. Julie. They got it, got to, got it. So then Gie goes, sick move and shot, scores. Then Goldberg bates the guy, leaves half the net open,
Starting point is 01:07:50 great glove saved. So we're up here. Then Dwayne gets stoned. Eichelin scores a clapper. Then Fulton goes out full stops. Illegal. Yeah. Oh yeah. What was that all about? Illegal. That's like the one like
Starting point is 01:08:05 Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. It's like the one thing you can. Stop and go backwards. It'd be funny if you like went around the net, maybe on the next one. They love wraparound so much. They love rap around. They can't do that. Iceland then scores.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Adam Banks goals, and this is my favorite part about the Adam Banks attempt. The music changes to like sad music and then it goes across the bench and the stands and everyone's like nodded. Like this kid's come back from like cancer. Yeah. But also the, wait, is this the last shot? Yeah, the last duck shot. The last duck shot.
Starting point is 01:08:38 They build that up. They, the whole time, there's so much build up. I'm like, I miss, I thought they went, I was so sure that that was going to be like, it goes in and it's over.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Just based on the music. Good point. Good point. Really good point. I'm into that. The entire buildup, every shot of that is so bad. It's great.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Like, Adam's like stick handling like this and then it cuts to like, he's stick handling it. He's literally just crossing the blue line after he's been skating for a full 10 seconds. Yeah. And then his like move,
Starting point is 01:09:07 he like fumbles the stuff. stick hand and then shoots it off the pad and in it's just it's all off. There's also, I think he starts it. It's either him or one of the other guys. I'm going to skate. Can you do that? Oh yeah. Okay, that's what I didn't. But if you miss it, do you nick it? That's your shot. It's over.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Because you've now like skated past the puck. Oh, yeah, yeah. No circumstances would you ever do that? It's just, yeah. But it looks cool. It did look cool when he did it, yeah. And then, and then, dude, you get the most ballsy coaching sub of all time in the history of the universe. Well, it, except for
Starting point is 01:09:38 the fact that from day one she's established as far better. Yeah. Fastest club. So it's like... Fastest glove in the West. Yeah, it's like, okay, you've finally made the right call. But yeah, Balzy. I don't even... I'm not going to give him Balsey. Cold goalie? Yeah, but... I mean, this has been...
Starting point is 01:09:54 Like, I just can't believe he hadn't already done it. Yeah. They would have won 5-0. She's the fastest glove in the east. Yeah, right. She should have been in for the entire shootout. Yeah. That actually would have been... I guess they would have to have too many ducks miss to, like, make it close if Julian was just saving everything. But it would have been maybe cooler to Well, there's why arbitrarily, like, that means you knew she was better.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yeah. Or I think he says something like... He's got a fast shot. He always goes high gloves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Triple D high glove.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So anyway, as you guys have said, Gunner goes, Julie saves it. Apparently the person working the goal horn, none of the fans in the stand noticed that she clearly caught the puck in her glove. Not even Gunner. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was wondering about that. I was like, what the fuck happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And then she drops the puck and her, everyone's like, oh! Yeah. He saved it. Went that fast, I guess? Yeah. Team USA wins, and then we get some great moments, great lines. Yep. Wolf Stanton goes up to Gunner and says, you lost it for me.
Starting point is 01:10:49 For me? Yeah. Not even a team. Gunner says you lost it for yourself. He then drops the let's go shake their hands. Yep. Great line. Like that move.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Then the good work, Captain Duck to Charlie. Yep. I don't know if Charlie deserved that. I don't know why we're calling him captain. I don't know what he did. He should have made the goalie change. Yeah. There's a rewrite.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Definitely. That's interesting. That's interesting. Then we get a good game coach from Wolf. Don't like that. We got to pick a lane on Wolf. Yeah. We don't need any full circle moments from him.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Jack Riley never said good. Yeah, he's just a piece of shit, dude. Like, we're not saying, and he's like, thanks, coach, see you next year. And I'm like, tick this man out of the league, dude. Yeah. He's like slashing you in the knee. This guy's insane. Yeah, that's like a crime, what he did.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Yeah. So go to jail. Like he could actually, yeah. So our movie ends, guys, with a. all right ducks let's go home and then a weird slow-mo shot of a American Airlines plane that then turns into geese
Starting point is 01:11:45 flying in a V not ducks geese this I'm going to be honest at this point it was like 725 and I was like I gotta get to the studio so I didn't really watch this part you didn't have to okay that happens it then goes to a campfire where they sing
Starting point is 01:11:58 we are the champions that's what I was like I heard in the background as I was getting also like does queen have a stake in this movie because they're singing we will we will rock you well not actually we will quack you. True. That's how you avoid those.
Starting point is 01:12:11 It's actually only one queen song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I agree. Yeah, it's a lot of queen. Gentlemen, that is our movie D2, The Mighty Ducks. Let's get into some awards here. Yeah, absolutely. Our heart trophy,
Starting point is 01:12:25 going to our MVP of the movie, can be any character. Okay. Oh. Who you got? Oh, my heart trophy? All right, one second. You put them in a different order than this.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Oh, did it? school. That's right. I got it. Heart Trophy, Banks. Yeah, okay. I'm going with Banks. I didn't know until this conversation how integral he was to the team in the first movie. So I kind of picked him as more of like a glue guy in the context of this movie where he gets
Starting point is 01:12:50 the wrist thing. He doesn't want the coach to know. He just wants to play. And then when he comes back, I feel like he's pretty like he understands that he was hurt a little bit. But then he's willing to take the job and he gets it done when it matters. Yeah. He scores in the shootout.
Starting point is 01:13:06 He stands up for Connie. At one point, Dean makes like a really sexist comment to Connie. And Adam's like, don't fucking talk to her. I think it's Julie, actually. He's a new friend. Oh, it's Julie, not Babe. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I don't know how I call those sexist comment.
Starting point is 01:13:19 All he said was Babe. He connects with Bombay about their dads. You know, he's like, my decimal pressure with my dad. He's like, dude, just go have fun. I just like that guy was always the good guy doing the right. You know, he won it for him and was, you know, getting the, what, did he have the one goal in the? He had the winner.
Starting point is 01:13:36 goal in the shootout. No, no, in the 12 or in the 12 one too, yeah. Yeah, which is also kind of a... That's when he got his arms. Yeah, that's kind of a, you know, a gluey move to get the one goal when you're down 12. Adam meets gets Jamie Lannistered and then he comes back and scores in the shootout. Yeah, I mean, there's not... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my guy.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Heart Trophy, potentially controversial pick, but Gunner Stahl. Bad pick. Led the tournament. Crazy pick. Yeah. The tournament in goals while also playing a super physical game. He's not just a goal scoring. And a pretty cleanly physical game.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I watched every hit he threw, and just about all of them are like, a guy on the puck, clean hit. Okay? Also had a nasty fake shot pass on the five on O. True. Sets up his teammate for another goal. And then tells the dentist to fuck off, shakes their hands, something nice to Charlie.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Literally, the only reason he didn't win or tie to shootout was because of great coaching. Yeah. You know, like, he's got to be the best loser there's ever been. Yeah. Such a humble, you know. Best player in the tournament. it by a mile and was a really nice guy who has a bad coach. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:40 I have a question. That was the sixth shot of the penalty thing, right? Fifth. I believe the fifth. Oh, was it the fifth? Yeah. Because we got Jesse Gold. I thought they had gone into like golden goal.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Oh, well, you're going by NHL. It's three people that shoot now. Oh, maybe that's what I was. Five. Maybe that's what I thought that they were already in the. Yeah, got, I got, yeah. For my heart trophy, I'm going Russ Tyler's brother. Oh, oh, good one.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Okay, yeah, yeah. This guy is just pure heart and soul. Like, he comes in, all he seems like he's an asshole, and all he says is, I'm here to teach you guys how to play some real hockey. Like, he's literally, he's introduced being like, I'm going to teach you. We think it's a chirp. Like, we think he's going, we're going to school you. And he's like, no, I'm going to teach you.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And then they say, yeah, your brother's got a big mouth. And he goes, he does, doesn't he? That's funny. and then yeah he just has lessons dude teaches charlie a lesson teaches kenny a lesson he's just great and then he's just there rooting for them rooting for them all the way
Starting point is 01:15:45 he's such a supportive brother when russ is out there dude what about dan when he uh love his fits when they leave well hold on okay oh i left it out intentional okay horny horny you jumped through it you got literally and skipped the one thing for a reason but you're too horny
Starting point is 01:16:02 go to our healthy scratches I had a tough time with this. Healthy Scratch are LVP. I think you're going to hate this, but I'm going with Goldberg. Don't hate it at all. Guy lets up a million goals a game, faces no discipline.
Starting point is 01:16:19 I mean, he has no awareness of it. I mean, more that's on the coach, obviously. But at some point, as the, like, he acts like he's all cool. They go to Beverly Hills. He's the prankster doing all this hot shit. The guy is a liability. He's the most glaring,
Starting point is 01:16:35 hole in their starting lineup. I don't understand how he keeps getting out there. And I think he's, I mean, I don't think they, I think the first game against Iceland, maybe he's even competitive if you have a competent goal. Yeah. Yeah, Julie just started. Yeah, like, I mean, I feel for Julie. She got shafted.
Starting point is 01:16:50 I guess she got her moment at the end, but. No, she gets shafted. She gets shafted. She gets shafted throughout the whole movie. And Goldberg, maybe, yeah, it's hard to say it's his fault because he's a kid, but a little bit, I'm like every, I don't, I don't want him out there. Yeah. So, LVP.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Good pick. In terms of actual. This is kind of a bullshit. pick but I'm going with it because I especially because I really want to save something for later. It's the dentist. No, my LVP is the unnamed Team USA trainer. Who, because like everyone, Iceland has a trainer. Team USA has a trainer who has blatantly missed Banks's clear injury.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Oh. And then x-rays him finally when Gordon's like, go get that x-ray. He says, go to the trainer and get that x-ray. And then it comes out in a sling. And then the next day, said trainer has pumped Banks so full of fucking painkillers. that he's a fucking 10 year old and he's like this woke up pain was gone yeah and i'm like this trainer is fucking tapped and on top of that boys the decision to just not make michel the trainer is so insane to me because yeah at least like and then he can cut all the school shit at all it's
Starting point is 01:17:50 summer there's an iceland trainer we should have a trainer like like thanks could have been dealing with her with the injury would have been a better romantic love trying if gordon's fucking both trainers yeah come on that's just good that's true yeah so that reminds me though banks was my trophy, I meant to include as part of that. He clearly got like, he took like steroids or like morphine. That's kind of an awesome move as like a kid. Like he went and figured shit out.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Like, yeah, yeah. He was a pumped full of Russian gas. Yeah, which is awesome. Fucking psychopath. That's a fan. But I agree with that. Like, that's really good. Who is that?
Starting point is 01:18:23 I am surprisingly going to disagree with you on the glaring hole. My, my healthy scratch is Dean Portman, dude. Whoa. Dean Portman. He's one of those guys. One of the Bash brothers.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Oh, oh, the huge, the big one. For me. Portman comes in easily the most polarizing of the new guys. Yep. He's singing his music. He's such a hardo with his sleeves cut off. And don't get me wrong. I love the Bash Bros.
Starting point is 01:18:49 I love the dynamic. Dean's fun. He's cool. I like how close he gets with Fulton. But he comes in, he's an asshole. He's like fighting his own teammates. He's farting when they're all tied up together. Brutal move.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Also a weird scene we didn't talk about. Yeah. Brutal move. That seems dangerous with all the skates. Yeah. Yeah. And then he gets tossed from the first Iceland game. Yep.
Starting point is 01:19:13 And then. That's true. While showboating gets another misconduct in the next Iceland game. And I'm like, dude, where is your value on the ice here? So it's a controversial pick. Like I said, I struggled with this one. I don't remember that. Part of me wanted to say Don Tibbles, but he's so funny.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Yeah, he is kind of a weirdo, though. He's a slimy prick, dude. He's a businessman. He tries to get some bad habits back in Gorton. When he's like, pundrumbs is no good to you unless you win. And like, Gordon's the whole thing in one is like win at all costs. And I was like, oh, dude, this is relapsing.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Yeah, yeah. But at the end of the day, he's there. He's there rooting them on every step of the way. He's getting on the ice. He's trying to skate. Like, you know, so he, I spared him. But it's for me, it's got to be Dean. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I mean, I think, you know, going up against the team like Iceland, he kind of need that presence. But I feel like he was, he couldn't keep his head in the game. Yeah. I feel you. Yeah. Let's go to our game seven moment, our moment of true chills in the movie. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Game seven moment. I'm going duck call from the top of the stands when he's a changed man. Yeah. Yeah. Because it, I mean, like we said, like he had the moment of realization, but then once he doesn't show up, I'm like, all right. Yeah. He's still a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:20:25 But then when he comes in, you hear that noise and you haven't heard it in like 30 minutes at that point. And you kind of forget. Come on. Yeah. It's taking you back. Like, it immediately as the viewer takes you back. for that first scene where they're all, you know.
Starting point is 01:20:36 That's coach. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought that was chills. We might have the same one, but I'm being dead ass right here. I'm not just being like, this was my favorite chills moment. I actually think this is just a fucking incredible moment in this movie. It's in his speech before the third period of the Iceland game, of the championship game,
Starting point is 01:20:56 and they're doing the whole thing. And where are you from? Where you from? And then they get up there and it's ducks fly together, ducks lie together, ducks lie together, the ducks lie together. And there's even some humor in that with chaos. But then when it comes back to Gordon and it gets really quiet and the music starts swelling and he goes, when everyone says it can't be done, ducks fly together.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And like that part genuinely fires me. Like I hear that and I'm like, that is so sick, dude. When everyone says it can't be done. Like that is an actual chills moment, not just a funny, we're having a fun, good time, chills moment. Fantastic. I agree. So the reason I stopped you and said you were getting too horny again.
Starting point is 01:21:32 My chills moment is after the game of street hockey. And they have all bonded, learned some lessons, and they go off while grabbing the chain link fence when Russ's brother looks at them and goes, go USA. Go get it. I was like, yes. It made me believe in this country. Yeah, totally. I was like, whoa, they're going to win. They might win.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Unbelievable stuff. Okay, the opposite. Our scent to the miners mom. Sent to the mines. Either just like a terrible thing or like lodging. a bad moment in the movie. What do we got? Yeah, well, I think it's both of those.
Starting point is 01:22:06 I think it's just, I hate seeing someone just completely misrepresent what they're supposed to be. The mascot talking. The Hendricks pair. What the hell? Name one mascot that is ever talked. And all of a sudden they have a talking mascot?
Starting point is 01:22:23 This is, this is the greatest sent to the miners moment ever. Like, that is so true. It breaks all the rules. But who, what? he goes hey you do you want a bear hug yeah and also I was so certain I don't know because of the talking I was like oh we're gonna find out that it's whoever's in the was gonna be like a reveal that the mascot was like I don't know his dad or something or like something crazy but no just a fucking talking bear is crazy and he crashes a team photo yeah and then he like says a weird thing to at the end ever comes back like the bear is never like needed or in the movie again or whatever. And he talks,
Starting point is 01:23:02 and he's a mascot. Insane. Crazy. It's absolutely absurd. I am, we have already addressed this, so I'll be quick, but I am sending to the Minesies
Starting point is 01:23:12 Bombay no-showing that game because, dude, this is a double elimination tournament. If you lose that game, you're out, and if your coach, which we now learn,
Starting point is 01:23:24 if your coach doesn't show, you forfeit. So like literally, dude, he's out there rollerblading the fucking Santa Monica boardwalking, boardwalk knowing my team is now out. Yeah, yeah. He's like, God, I do love this game.
Starting point is 01:23:37 The boys are out. The boys and a couple girls are out, unfortunately, because I have not come. Yeah. Dude, that is like, you brought up a great point to you about how like just logically movie it wasn't smart either. But just from a character, you have ruined their tournament. They are out, dude. Yeah, I'll give him one benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Have you ever driven. Malbo traffic, too. Yeah. Malibu. Yeah. Malibu. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:24:02 you probably was stuck on the 10. Yeah. I'm going to give him that. He was married. You know what? I take it back, actually. Imagine if he said that. Team, sorry.
Starting point is 01:24:11 4.05 is bricked. We spent a lot of time on it, but sent to the minors for me of all of the things that a group of 13-year-old kids could be doing, going to a clothing store in Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 01:24:28 How do they get? was just, is like, it was truly, it's like, I've never really thought about it. It's just the craziest scene ever. Yeah. And like, the writers deciding, what should these group of kids be doing? I know. Having a bunch of grown women modeling clothing for them. Yeah. And not thinking that this is wildly creepy is like insane. Agreed. It's just insane. Like, like, even if you wanted to keep them in Beverly Hills, so you could show up Beverly Hills for the movie, have them go to a nice restaurant and lie about who they are and see a movie star or something. Get a free meal
Starting point is 01:25:03 or something. Yeah, yeah. Like there were so many decisions. It's just like the craziest decision ever. I agree. To have it followed up with a woman waking. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Then finally our Keith Yandel song moment. A moment in the movie that made you genuinely laugh. Oh,
Starting point is 01:25:19 wait. What did I write for this one? Oh, shit. I don't think I wrote this one. You guys go first. Okay. I'm going to brainstorm. This is my last one. I missed it. I'll go. you just mentioned mine and while I know it upset you, dude, being caught off guard by it but the Hendricks polar bear walking by
Starting point is 01:25:37 Michelle McKay, hey, there, Missy, how about a bear hug? Like, what's just? Fucking. And like, McKay's like, what the fuck? It was just so unexpected. Totally forgot about it. Yeah. And it made me audibly laugh. I was like, wow. Another horny
Starting point is 01:25:53 another inappropriately horny character in these mighty duck fucking movies. I couldn't even show his face. This guy's just. Just horny shit. I got mine, actually. I think I said it earlier. I gave it up.
Starting point is 01:26:05 But right at the beginning, when he's sharpening the skate, against launch, like, actually an unbelievable distance. Yes, really. Like a katana. Yeah. Fired into the wall.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Dude, this is a real laugh. Iceland game one, Dean Portman gets tossed immediately. Three seconds in, it's chaos. He goes in the locker and he's pissed. He's like, I should be out there. He's, like, watching on TV. And it cuts to him a couple times,
Starting point is 01:26:28 like still being really pissed. And then Julie gets put in, immediately sack taps those boys, and she is tossed. And she comes into the locker room, and Dean is wailing on the training board still. Julie is tossed in the third period. And he has tossed three seconds in.
Starting point is 01:26:48 So presumably he has literally just been like rage fucking the locker room. And dude, that covers two intermissions. Like, did the whole team come in there? Yes. he was smashing shit they go back up to plane I should be out there like when Gwalk in and he was still
Starting point is 01:27:04 punching that table I was like yeah you gotta clean it up no take a shower spin zone could be like he's been goofing off and every time people walk in he has to act mad so he heard Julie coming
Starting point is 01:27:15 and it's like oh there is I'm pretty sure he picks up a stool in that moment and like knees it into a thousand pieces like there are two of the greatest moments of strength displayed in movies I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 01:27:28 One is when Captain America splits a log in half with his bare hands. Two is Dean Portman obliterate that. It's fucking insane, dude. Okay. Losing like thousands of dollars of damage over two periods.
Starting point is 01:27:39 All right. To close us out, we have just watched D2, The Mighty Ducks. I want to give one out of ten, decimals included, rating of this movie on two scales. One,
Starting point is 01:27:49 the genuine quality movie scale. Okay. And then our enjoyment scale. I'll go first. CP, go first. Give us quality movie. movie. I can't quite remember, but I think I gave D1 as like a 7-7 quality.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Yes, believe so. This one, begrudgingly, I do think I have to go to like a 6, 8 because there's just a few too many crazy holes. Yeah. And there's like
Starting point is 01:28:16 dumb stuff. I didn't even say this, but like in Trinidad and Tobago they're like, it's 6-0 and the scoreboard says 7-0. You know, I'm just like, come on. Like there's just so many stupid misses. So unfortunately, I don't think the quality of this movie is as good as D1. Yeah, especially with the story arc and shit. But I had, and I love these movies, admittedly. I know they're not really, you didn't even,
Starting point is 01:28:32 I haven't seen this one, but like, you know, I watched this movie a million times. Yeah. So I love these movies, and because of that, I will always love them. And I think I gave D1, maybe a 9-1 even for this. Wait, what's the- For enjoyment?
Starting point is 01:28:43 Like, I don't really enjoy it. And D-2, while admittedly being a almost full point worst-quality movie, is like a 9-4 for me. Because it was just like, it was like Miracle. I was like Miracle, but like, me. Yeah. if I was in Miracle.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Yeah. And it's just like enough, like they just ramp up shit. You know, and there's a fucking shootout. And I'm like, oh my God. And there's sick characters and craziness happening. So even more enjoyable for me than D1 while admittedly being worse quality movie. Yeah. For me, I'm very aligned.
Starting point is 01:29:15 This movie, with my take that has been cycling the internets with empty netters is that I don't like these movies. Okay. My real take is I don't like how. fucking stupid these movies are sometimes. Yep. Because, yes, while they, we grew up with hockey, for a huge portion of our lives in the 90s, in like early 2000s, there were people
Starting point is 01:29:36 who were like, I don't play hockey, but like, I've seen the Mighty Ducks, and I'm like, do you think hockey is like that that it bothered me? Yeah. That's why I've always said this. There are a lot more of these bad moments. So for me, like quality movie, I'm going like a 6.2. Like this movie
Starting point is 01:29:51 is just, it's utter nonsense for a lot of it. Enjoyment. Totally agree. Like this movie has... The word for word lines that I remembered in this movie. Again, I haven't seen these movie in a long time as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:07 The word for word lines that I remembered, just the, like, the kids hanging out in the dorm room with the shaving cream stuff. That was, I was like, yes, that would be sick. The street hockey, the stuff in California, it doesn't make sense, but it was a blast. And yeah, it's Team USA beating our bitter, long... time rivals. How can you not get fired up?
Starting point is 01:30:29 I'm going nine for as well. Like just that it was awesome. Damn. All right. Well, I want to say, don't let us weigh you. No,
Starting point is 01:30:35 I'm not going to, but I want to say one thing while I have the floor before I forget. I also wanted to bring up insane scene burning trash on the USC quad. Oh yeah. You know what? He's like,
Starting point is 01:30:47 see, this is a barrel fire. We're doing a barrel fire. I was like, what? She was like clearly like on the campus of USC and people are walking around behind them. Yeah, truly.
Starting point is 01:30:56 What the hell? We have a drought problem here, yeah, yeah, he's just like burning the cutouts of himself. It's like a weird, anyway. Crazy. I'm going to go in terms, so I, there is clearly a nostalgic element to this movie that I don't relate with at all. Of course.
Starting point is 01:31:12 He was way lower than us. I've only seen it for work. And, uh, no, I'm going to go in terms of actual quality movie. I mean, it wasn't, there's worst movies. Because it's not trying too hard either. There are some movies that people Yeah That I like less
Starting point is 01:31:30 That are probably more widely regarded But I would go Yeah like a 5-4 or something In terms of like actual movie quality And transparently I don't think my Enjoyment scale is that much higher I think it's probably like a Like a 6-8 or something
Starting point is 01:31:47 Maybe I'll take that 6-8 It's a great junk Yeah like it was because the like the lassoing thing I was like that is so fucking dumb And then I was just cracking up I was like why do I care Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Yeah. Well, D2 the Mighty Ducks. We're getting crazier. Yeah. And I've got a feeling D3 is going to be on that same trajectory. Who do you got in coming in for D3? We've got Liam. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:08 For D3. He was also never seen these movies. Got a bunch of guys from New England that have never seen. Yeah. But D2 the Mighty Ducks, classic stuff. Unbelievable. Willie, thank you so much for joining us. Before we leave, tell the people where to find you, what you got going on.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Thanks for having me. I got podcasts. We film right in this same killer studio, Playdate A Pod. Check us out on wherever you get podcasts, Instagram, TikTok, and... You got a YouTube show.
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Starting point is 01:32:50 which definitely won't apply because I'm assuming this isn't coming out in the next eight hours. Came out yesterday. day yeah yeah yeah so check it out look up friday beers on youtube i've spent a lot of time thinking about what i would eat if i want to that show well hopefully if this takes off then we can book you dude i really want to come on because i'm a bottomless pit and i have no doubt yeah like i'll finish in 20 minutes yeah yeah i think i might do davis clark dude was the what if we did like
Starting point is 01:33:17 seconds how many seconds is in 60 minutes give me that um 3600 do it give me that much money at a fast food place. 3,600. I think I nailed that. I think you smashed that. Yeah. Really good stuff. All right, deal.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Yeah, sick. 3,600 and 3600. Yeah. Well, that is it for us this episode of the Empty Netters podcast. Unbelievable stuff breaking it down with Willie D on D2, the Mighty Ducks. We will see you guys next time. And until then, quack hard. Quack on.

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