Empty Netters Podcast - Emergency Trade Deadline Day And The NHL Draft

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

The greatest summer of trades continues so make sure you’re refreshing your feed! Byram is about to become the highest paid defenseman in the league. What are the Sharks about to do with those picks? And will McKenna for sure go 1?! Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 02:37 - NHL offseason trades 33:35 - Trade Rumors 59:51 - NHL Draft 1:02:38 - Not Ice/Can Washer Be a Hamper?/Picture Slideshow 1:28:43 - Blind Ranking World Cup Kits PRESENTED by BetMGM. Download the BETMGM app and use code “NETTERS” and enjoy up to $1500 in bonus bets if you lose your first wager! Thanks to our Sponsors! BetMGM: Use bonus code NETTERS when signing up to receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your first bet loses. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US) 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR) 21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. See BetMGM.com for Terms. First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This promotional offer is not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Find LUCY near you at lucy.co/stores, or save 20% on your first online order at lucy.co/NETTERS with promo code NETTERS. Work Hard and Change the Game. For a limited time only, new customers are getting an insane deal. Use code NETTERS to get 40% Off at G- L- D dot com. That’s 40% Off with code NETTERS at GLD.com. After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and tell them our show sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all year? No, no, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.

So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Finish tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guineasas and ran into you guys. That's where this pod came to life. is ready and we're back with another episode of the empty netters podcast brought to you by bet m gm i'm your host dan powers dr wakins is rocking a sick ass denim tuxedo that's right the sticks feeling great feeling groovy and then over here this idiot has food poisoning cp as always that's my food poisoning boys. Can we discuss the funny thing that happened in your food poisoning journey? The accusation.

Oh, because I think it's pretty funny. You could say no. I think no. Okay. I'm just scared of what might have. I get it, dude. I get it. That made me laugh real hard. I'll tell Evan. Let me tell you what, dude, I can relate. I can relate when you're like, really? Really? I actually was really happy that Loop was like, oh yeah, that happens to me all the time. Oh yeah, yeah. Did you get it from eating butt. Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. Dude, Locke shoved his fucking ass crack into this microphone. That was yesterday. And now I'm talking into it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. So I'm about to have food poisoning. You can't get food poisoning from eating butt. That's

crack to table, dude. That's as healthy as it gets. Going right to the source. Listen, it's summertime. And we've talked a lot about how we are so excited to just get a break from the sport that we love. And all we want to do is not talk about hockey in our Thursday episodes. We want to just talk about fun stuff, maybe some World Cup, maybe some goofy things. But the NHL is the horniest league in the world. And it feels ridiculous for me to complain about that because this is everything I've ever asked for. All I've ever wanted was a horny league where teams realize that they should make moves before the draft when the draft picks are as valuable as anything. As valuable as what comes out of locks his ass and is sitting on this

microphone. This is a draft pick right here. Look at this. This come off. Oh, is that a butt pub? Yeah, this is what a first-round draft pick is worth. So we have to just dive right in because there's just crazy shit going on in Lee. We had even more trades than what we talked about last episode, more moves, and that's that. Starting off hot with the Buffalo Sabres. Dude, that's your boy right there. That's my boy. I've long said Bowen Byram has been moved too many times for how good he is.

Yep. But it's because he's just been in. multiple situations where he is so good and there's a cap situation and a talent situation and he's like the odd man out. So he was in Colorado, won a cup, was the

star of the parade, got dealt because Colorado needed to make moves, needed to figure some stuff out. Didn't work for Colorado. Then he goes to Buffalo and now Buffalo has a surplus of left shot studs, horses on their team and he, because of his contract, was the odd man out.

So why? Listen, don't even get me started pal but why was he i think that was the wrong trade but buffalo feels great about the return they trade him to the chicago blackhawks for the number four pick in the 2026 draft this coming draft they also get louis crevier and a second round pick so pretty big deal jordan greenway goes oh oh the other way as well um i wonder so Chicago fans were tweaking being like

yo we gave a fourth for for Byram is that way too rich I think Byram's amazing but that's rich bro but I think even as bad as Chicago is Chicago especially with Bedard like

you got to sign Connor Bedard man yep let's look at the world here brother there are no guarantees in this life. In this life, dude. So, Bedard is like, he's an RFA man. And I imagine he's going to sign, but what's he going to sign? Is he about to sign like a two-year bridge?

Is he about to sign a four-year bridge? Is he about to sign a seven-year deal and be like this? I'm in no matter what. Is he about to go like this? I'm not signing. Trade me. That would be gas. Dude, but he's signing.

He's going to sign a seven-year deal. He's in no matter what. Here we go all aboard the fucking Polar Express. Do you think there's any offer sheet that could be sent Connor Bedard's way that a team wouldn't match? No. That the Hawga wouldn't match? No, but they should receive 31 offer sheets. Oh, I disagree with that.

I mean, let's just think about it rationally. Like, if you are the Aves, if you're the Panthers, you're not offer sheet in Connor Badares. Why? Because what happens if you? so if you offer sheet if you send someone a deal I go this is what I would pay him

and then the team goes we do not match then there's a tier amount of picks you get right so it's like if it's over 10 8 you get four first round picks if the offer sheet is greater than or equal to 11.7 million a year that

equates to four first round picks this is actually a great lesson for some listeners who don't know this If the... Give me the bracket. And by offer sheet, so when a player is an RFA, any team in the league can send an offer sheet to the team that owns that RFA in this instance, the Chicago Blackhawks. So let's say I'm the Boston Bruins and I go, I'd like Connor Bardard.

I send an offer sheet, which is a contract offer to the Chicago Blackhawks. And it will equal to a certain AAB number. The years don't matter. it's just is what it is. If that offer sheet is sent, the team that owns that player's rights, who is the RFA, has the option to either match it or not. Now, also, the player has to sign the contract. Yep. So an offer sheet can come in and the Chicago Blackhawks can go like this.

No. And I believe the player can also go like this. No, I don't, I'm not signing that. So gone. I don't want to play there. Yeah. But usually that doesn't happen. We saw the RFA offer sheet.

Actually, you know what? Hold on, Evan. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. That's typing sounds. Computer. I'm not cutting any of this. This is going to stay in. Yeah, okay.

That can all stay in. They can refuse. Yep. So, in this instance, we're going to go through what your compensation is. So if a team goes like this, I am not matching, and that team that sent the offer sheet goes, boom, we've signed this player, they have to pay compensation to the Blackhawks. And just to be clear, and you said this, but I want them to understand, if the player goes, I'm in, I would play there.

And then this contract comes in, the team that owns that player, the Hawks in this case, now has to pay them that much. Like if they were like, we're going to get Bedsie at 9. Oh, yeah. And then if you want to match it, you literally have to match the exact offer. Yeah. So if we're going to get Bedsy at 9 and then the Bruins go 11. The Hawks go, fuck you, dude, because now we have to pay them 11.

or he's a brewing. So here's where I want. We start at the top. 11.7, greater than or equal to, is four first round picks. The next one, between 9.36 mil and 11.7 mil, which in my opinion is a great number.

Is what he will get. Two first round picks, one second round pick and one third round. Which is essentially less than Brady could chucking. Dude, that is the easiest fucking I will pay that. you have ever seen. So everyone on earth should offer him 11.5 million. So,

11.6. While I don't think that 31 teams should, I do look at like a Boston Bruins, for example, who are desperate for a center. I would fucking send that offer sheet yesterday. It's insane. And listen, if they match it,

they match it. But I would straight up go like this. We are offer sheeting Connor Bardard seven by fucking 10 and a half. And that is two first round picks. Dude, I would give him 11.6 because A, I think he will be plenty worth that. Seven by 11.6, that is easily going to pay for itself. And you put the screws on the hawks as much as as humanly possible. The Boston Bruins, literally, the only people they have to sign are,

are you going to sign Victor Arvinson and Andrew Peake? That is it. And you have $11.5 million in caps base. And the Boston Bruins have been desperate for a center. If you are the Boston Bruins, how do you not offer sheet Connor Bedard? Okay, and then here the reason. Because as we've seen, dude, everyone's fucking making like, it's a new day. Oh yeah. It is a new day. A new dog. And if you are the Boston Bruins, dude, miss me on the, uh, like I obviously fucking love the players that they have. Uh, and like, you know, like, I believe in Higgins and Dean Leterno and all that. But like, dude, Connor Bernard's right there.

Send that offer sheet and make Chicago match. And they will. That's what I'm saying. They will match it. But make them match it. And dude, here is my question. So yes, and not just the Bruins, I think there are fine, maybe not 31, but there are 29 teams that should be sending this offer sheet right now.

And there are 10 teams that should be sending one over 11.7 and really putting it on on Chicago. There are 10 teams that should go, here's 7 by 13. Let's suck me. Let's do it. Okay. Every team, so like Colorado literally can't. They don't even have the cops.

Yeah, I guess Florida can't, Edmonton can't, Dallas probably can't. Hold on, let's do it this way. Do you have a list of cab space? I'm looking at it, right? That's what I'm doing. So do give me, just read me the teams that don't have the space, even though you could create it. Read me the teams that don't have the space. And what's the number we think?

11. We'll call it 11? Yeah. Okay. Teams that literally right now do not have the space. Colorado. I just read them all Okay Colorado

Dallas Edmonton Florida Minnesota Montreal just barely Montreal Islanders

Vegas and that's it okay okay so now read me the teams that have 11 mil Anaheim ducks yes

Send Boston Bruins Send Buffalo Sabers Send Carolina Hurricanes probably don't need it but send

Yeah. Columbus Blue Jacket. Send. Calgary Flames. Send. Chicago Blackhawks, obviously. Detroit Red Wings? 100%.

Send. You just lost Larkin. L.A. Kings. Send. Yep. God damn it, dude. Are you kidding? Nashville Predators.

Send. New Jersey Devils. Send. New York Rangers. Send. Ottawa Senators. Send. Philadelphia Flyers.

Send. Pittsburgh Penguins. Send. Seattle Crackin. Send. San Jose Sharks. Send. St. Louis Blues.

St. Tampa Bay Lightning. Send. Toronto Maple Leafs. Send. Utah Mammoth. Send Vancouver Canucks. Send.

Washington Capitals. Send. Winnipeg Jets. Send. And I'm being dead serious. I am too. Be like this. I'll take Badaard for fucking two first round picks.

I am too. And I genuinely think the Boston Bruins, you would be, look at me, fools to not send that RFA. Do you think, this is the only reason I brought this up in the first place. Sorry for the massive tangent we were talking about bone barn. If the Panthers cleared cap space, for example, and went like this. we are sending Bedsy 7 by 13 and the Hawks go

fuck I can't match that and the Panthers go great you're on our team now is it is it just the next available first rounders because they would go you don't have the next four or is that a loophole dude

you go like this we don't have any fuck you yeah you can take our best pick in the next four years you certainly can't have first rounders because we do not have them.

I think that's, we got to check the fine print in the RFA bylaws, dude, because I think if you maybe don't have any first-round picks, you don't have to send them because they're gone. They don't exist. Dude, this is like, this is amazing, how obvious this is. You should just absolutely let it rip. I'm in, I'm in. What I was going to say is, he is, I think he's,

going to resign. And as bad as they were, I'm glad that Chicago made this move because that fourth overall pick isn't playing for this Blackhawks team for at least three years. So when you are in a situation where your star knew supposed to be franchise player has played his three years of that rookie deal, and you guys are brutal still. He's had some injury trouble. You're in the like, look at the sharks, look at the ducks, who are in the same situation. One of those teams already made the playoffs. One of them just missed the playoffs,

and both of them are infinitely in better situations than you are. So it is time to make moves and get this team better, make Badaard happy, and make your fans happy and start making a push here. So I like the move.

I think there's a ridiculous catch-22 in this move. What does the origin of catch-22, Evan? Is it the- It's a book, wasn't it? a book? And in the book, it's a soldier is trying to get out of the military because he goes, I'm, I'm crazy. Yeah. I'm like, I'm having crazy episodes, but they go, anyone who says you're crazy. It's from Joseph Hellers, 1961 satirical novel of the same name. Yeah, so anyone who says you're crazy can't be crazy

because only, only crazy people don't think they're crazy. Yeah, in the book, it describes a circular military rule regarding World War II pilots trying to get out of dangerous missions. You can be excused from flying if you are deemed insane. However, asking to be excused demonstrates a rash concern for your own safety, which proves you were actually saying. Therefore, it is impossible to even be grounded. Yeah. Catch 22. You got to get your buddy to say, this motherfucker is crazy.

Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And then you'll get out. Yep. So this is a catch 22 for me, because I believe that a fourth overall, was it Byram a fourth overall? Special if he was. Yeah, I think so.

I believe that you, pray a fourth overall becomes bow and by 19 fourth overall right so in that regard like we always say this I'm like bone byram is awesome and fourth overalls are you know you hope they're good and I think you're like oh I pray my fourth overall becomes bowen byram and in that case it's a great deal for the hawks because they're going I'm getting a guaranteed boen byram instead of a hope that it becomes Bowen Byron. Win for the Hawks. But on the other hand, with the way picks are valued, stupidly, but the way picks are valued,

you need to be getting way more than Bowen Byron for the fourth overall pick. So. Shane, like, save that chip for maybe something else. Yeah. So I'm like, that is what I, listen, the Blackhawks are getting flamed for this by some people. And I do think the return was, the issue is, like, I think Bowen is, asking for like 10 and a half million. So it's like in approximately one year, you are now, if you're, I mean, if you just traded a

fourth overall pick for him, you are going like this. We're signing you right now. Oh, yeah. So I think it was rich. I do think that they needed to make a move, but I do, I do want to agree with some of the boo birds in that I think you maybe could have used that bullet on something better. But you have to imagine right now that with this case. you must be discussing extension right now.

Oh, I'm sure. You have to. Yep. To trade a fourth overall for him. I'm kind of surprised he didn't have any no trades, did he? No, I do. Yeah, I'm just kind of surprised, like, it's not up to him, obviously, but if I were him, I don't know.

Chicago has a future, obviously, but I'm kind of bummed if I'm him, where I'm like, we were on Buffalo, we were buzzing, it was fun, and I got. I mean, no doubt, dude, like Chicago has a ton of work. to do. I mean, they have fucking $30 million in cap space, but like, you absolutely have to sign Bardard right now, but that's the crazy thing. Yeah, Badaard's about to be on Boston and now

Byron's here by his fucking self. What I do love about the Hawks is that Spencer Knight is awesome. Yeah, good point. Yeah, good point. Yeah. And they have him locked up until 2029. So, like, you're arguably 1A or 1B, most important position is filled. And that's great.

and I love Frankie Nassar. They've got some great players, but like, I know everyone's so excited about Fondell. I really love Fondell. I think that was a great pick. But they, even Bader,

I don't think Badaard has taken the jump yet because of injury that everyone expected. Yeah. This year was great. This year was the first time I was like, bang, there he is. There you are, Peter.

Yeah, I mean, like, he had 30 tucks and 75 points. That's amazing. I mean, I'm not going to say that's amazing. Me neither. Because, like, look at how far ahead of him, Macklin is. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's tough. Like, leaps and bounds ahead of him.

69. You're 75 and 69, no. No, it's fantastic. He's overpoint per game. Like, he's a very, I mean, he is, I don't want to say everything that people expected of him, but he is, he, I think he's on the, the way there. But... I know why he's staying. Two words.

Lou Malnati. The Chicago beef. Chicago Deep dish. The beat the deep dish and the beef. Stick around for the food. What about the deep dish, dude? What about the beef? I mean, it's a great city. Chicago beef is pretty good. Dude, it's a great city. It's a storied franchise.

It's one of, if not the best jerseys in the league. I think it's... Listen, I think Frondell had nine points in 12 games in his like, hey, that he has 19 year old, like he is awesome. So you talk about Nazar, you talk about him, you talk about Lev Shinov, like, now you've got Byram, and I think Byram is awesome. I think Vlasic is sick.

There is, there are reasons to go, we're obviously staying here and making it work. Yeah. But I do think it is time to start making it work. They're in win soon mode. It was an aggressive mood. Aggressive mood. It was an aggressive mood.

It was an aggressive mood. but one that you had to make I think you overpaid a little bit but you got to make some shit happen. I agree. The question is should you have

like if like a Zach Werensky is potentially on the move here like do you not go for that? Like do you not say hey here's the fourth overall pick here's a first round pick next year

and more and give me Zach Wrenski. Yes. Dan, you do. So, like, that's where I'm like Chicago. I think you blew your load here. Now you've got a bit of a mess on your hands. Grab the Kleenex. This was supposed to be a dry run.

Yeah, dude. And I think you blew your load just a little bit. A little bit. But I like Byron. Now let's talk about Jordan Cairo. Yep. Jordan Cairo traded to the Washington Capitals by the St. Louis Blues. Blues get back.

Connor McMichael prospect. Milton, Gastron, and a first round pick number 16, this draft. Who won this trade? I think that I'm going to say that on paper, in my opinion, the Caps won, because I like McMichael actually a lot, and I thought he was, he's been very solid. Was it two years ago that he was great? McMichael had 46 points in 78 games this year. Last year he had 57 and 82 with 26 tons.

Yeah, like I think last year I was like, yo. So, but I still think he's a very good player. The 16 means less than nothing to me. And Kyru, I think in my mind, I still value so high because of what he has done. But, dude, this is such a, when there's smoke, there's fire thing to me. with that kid, and I don't know him at all. I do not know him personally, and I actually don't even know that many dudes that know him. Usually we're kind of a couple degrees away from a guy. I don't really have any connection to Jordan Kairu, but obviously we know Monty, and the

Kyru thing has just been a problem the whole time. I don't know why. I have no idea. The first hints of like, they might trade Kairu two years ago or whatever that was. We were like, what? He was coming off like 40 goals or something. And I was like, what are you talking about? But it's just been an issue the whole time. Sometimes it's addition by subtraction. Again, I'm not making any commentary on the person or the locker room situation or the player. I do not know. I'm just saying, I felt like the Blues had to get him off the team. He is now off the team. They got a guy back that I like who has some potential. Yeah, he was an all-star in 2022, 22, 21, 22. He had 75 points in 74 games, then 73 and 79, then 67 and 82,

then 70 in 82 and now 46 in 72. The team struggled big time this year, so that kind of makes sense. But he went 27 goals, 37 goals, 31 goals, 36 goals, 18 goals. You'd like to think he's a 30 goal score? He better be. You got, I think the pay, I think Washington paid so much because of how much term he has, he has five years left,

on a pretty reasonable deal. And if he gets back to 80 points, 30-something, goals, then they, then they're thrilled. Yeah. The question is, does he get up to 80? Like, is, does he now play on this team and you're an 80 point guy? Yep. He's going to be playing with Strom, I would imagine.

Yeah, it's the, the, the caps for me with that move are a little bit like what you're, you're taking on so many question marks. Like PL, we love PL. Yeah. But let's call it what it is. He's a question mark. Yeah. And I think in that first year, he was fantastic.

I think last year he was less than what they wanted him. He was hurt the whole time, right? Yeah, sure. It was a combination of both. And now Kyru is like a guy for the last three years, this team that drafted him has been like, we want this guy gone. Yeah. So you have to be like, oh, why? Yeah.

So it's just a lot of question marks. A lot of question marks. Dude, isn't that funny with the world? Like, you, I was looking at homes. I was looking at real estate. Los Angeles, real estate the other day. And it's like, you find a cool house on Zillow. And it's like, days on Zillow, 266, price drop, 300K.

You know, and I'm like, yeah, you're like, why? Who was murdered in here? Termites, baby. Yeah, I'm like, truly. And that is what happens with these players where they're like, the Blues have been trying to trade Kyru for three years. And I'm like this, what's going on here? What do they know?

Yeah. It's always just a like what what what what's happening. Yep. What's happening here? So I listen, it's a good move. I think we have sources saying that the caps are making more moves. Yeah, something big. Something big's coming.

So we think the caps are going to make a big move. And also we assume that OV is going to resign. Yep. So keep eyes on a move. And by the way, we're saying this on Wednesday. You're probably listening on Thursday morning. But yeah. I think something's coming.

Oh, by the time you're listening to this, I imagine. Something's coming today in Washington. Quick, hold coffee cups up to your mouth, and we can just dub over something later. Yeah. Just, there you go. Mm-hmm. Yep. Dan, react, react, big.

Why? We're going to, later, I'll say, my prediction is, my prediction for the big Washington capitals move today is perfect. Okay, great. And now we got it. Perfect. Now we got it, dude. That's incredible.

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Love that. Love best buds getting back together. Sends also receive Casper Haltunan and the rights to forward prospect, Brandon Svoboda, I think. Sorry if I mispronounce that. That's right.

That's for the number nine pick, which was acquired in the Brady Kachuktree. The hall for Ottawa from that deal looks fantastic, in my opinion. Yes, actually, I agree. I think Echie's an unbelievable player. I'm honestly, like, I was actually pretty shocked that the sharks moved him. Me too. But I think it is a clear indicator that they are taking I for Stenberg.

Oh, okay. Because we had said earlier that the two and nine, I mean, listen, I said package 2-9 and a player and go get Zach Wrenzky right now. Yeah. But I just, I don't know, man. Like, I don't think you can move Eki and now pass on. I think there, I think the world we're looking at is that people are looking at Stenberg and being like, this guy's the fucking real deal. Yeah, I guess that is the question.

I'm, I remain really high on Mesa, though. I know you do. And I think a lot of people, there are a lot of people. There are a lot of people who are saying that Mesa would be a lock number one this year. I agree. So I'm like, what do you need? And I am never a guy who's like, we shouldn't pat. We don't take the best guy because we have team needs.

I'm like wrong. If you, like, if I don't even give a shit if they keep both these picks, keep Mesa and take Senderberg. I'm like, good. Now you have a fucking billion dope dudes. Yeah. Figure it out. That's the job for later. Just get the dope guys.

So I'm so fine with that. Um, but if you're like, oh, man, we lost. Eklin, we need Stenberg. We can't package those guys because now we need another impact for it. I'm like, you have Misa, who is everything you would ever want from this draft. So you're fucking completely fine on that front. And yes, I would, I would happily trade two and nine for if you could get, if you could pry off a Werenski type guy. Then I'm like, dude, see ya. And I'm so fine to that. If you can't, then yes, take Stenberg and be happy. It is insane how young this team is. It's unbelievable.

Like, if you look at their top six, and like, let's say they take Stenberg. Yeah. You've got Toff in the mix, as always. But, like, it's like Macklin, Will Smith, Colin Graff, Michael Misa, Igor Ternishov, and then Ivor Stenberg. If you add Stenberg and you bump Mesa out to the wing. And it's like, you have a top six who is the oldest player is like 21 years old. Yeah. 22 years old.

It's insane. Yeah. And like, Graff's fucking good, dude. I love Graf. Me too. I loved him in college so much. Mesa is 8. team bro.

Meese is so good. Yes, meas is a child. But Eklund had a great year, dude. 53 points, 78 games. That's a good pickup for Ottawa. And again, like you're reuniting him with Zetfieland. That's all, dude, people think that might mean enough.

It's always great. Like, you're just making your players happier. Right away from me, I'm like, Ottawa, listen, sucks that Brady wanted out for you. You have done well. Yeah. Got a great haul for him. And now you immediately add a good player back in the mix in Eklund.

and you still have tons of draft picks, a lot of cap space. So, like, Ottawa is, like, licking their wounds pretty well, I think, which is awesome. And sharks now remain and add to, if you will, a very interesting, what are we doing to get better here? Because what's interesting is we kept talking about maybe you trade that two and pieces for a big player.

What they might have just done is gone, well, no, we're using the two, and now we're going to trade the nine end player. for a big piece. Yeah. Because the ninth overall pick is still a great fucking totally, dude.

So there you go. I do think you wonder, no, never mind. That's good. I'm excited for the sharks. I'm excited to see what they do. Got another big draft hall.

Simone Nemex finally traded. Finally, dude. Traded to the Calgary Flames. Devils also sent Maxime Seipakov and they get a conditional first round picks in the 2027 and the 2020.

draft, second round pick in the 2026 draft, this draft, and defenseman prospect H.N. Morin. And both picks are top 10 protected. Listen, I think Nemek is awesome. I don't think he's panned out in Jersey for whatever reason. I, in my opinion, he, like, I think his value was higher at the deadline. Oh. You got to... That's a good haul. Conditional first round picks, and that's great.

But they're protected and presumably the Devils. So hold on the flames. Well, you know what my thing. And listen, this is what teams are doing. You now have two first round picks added to your arsenal. The Devils, if you fucking do not trade those right now. Yeah. I'm talking before the, I know both of them aren't, the first rounders are not this draft.

But either way, if you do not make a trade in the next 30 days, you have failed this move. That's a good take. It's not a take. Being protected is so ass. Because I'm like, these picks suck now, dude. It is so ass. So, so, so ass.

But dude, I am telling you, the devil, if you do not use both of those picks in moves to get better right now, you have failed. Because this devil's team, dude, is not. Like, I don't care how young Jack uses. You need to be trying to be good right now. Yeah. And if they're like, oh, we're going to use those picks.

I'm like, are you fucking crazy, dude? You are crazy? You gotta make, you gotta make plays. Like the Devils, in this move, I was talking to Pasha yesterday, and he was like, we're 100% moving those. And I was like, you better. Like, because there is no, like, there is no build for the future here with the devils. Absolutely not.

You need to be in playoffs next year. No questions asked. I know, dude. Or there's going to be a mutiny on your hands. Or you trade Jack to Minnesota and get more picks back and then start building around Luke Hughes, who is the only Hughes you will ever possess. Yeah.

100%. So they've got to make moves. Let's talk quickly on some of the names that are floating around right now. First up, Alex Tuck. Yep. We're just talking about, we're seeing quotes from Yarmow that he's like, we're going to miss him around here, but we'll be fine. I've never seen a dude more gone in my life than Alex Tuck. Yeah.

And it's crazy because. there was all that talk about during playoffs. He doesn't have a fucking point in that series. And it was like, what do they do? He just lost himself a bunch of money. I was thinking at the time, probably not because he was going to take a hometowner at Buffalo anyway. Incorrect.

Not only does it sound like he doesn't want to take a hometowner at Buffalo, but also they don't want him. Which is, I was so sure both sides were a yes. And then it was going to be sad if one side was yes and one side was a no. turns out they're both a no good riddance good day uh yeah it's like there he's gone i think a sign and trade is still possible um i think the caps are heavy on tuck yeah but i do wonder the number like it's it's you know i i i really love the player you always got a as we always say i want i want these guys to get as much fucking money as possible but i don't think that he is

over 10 and a half. I'm not even sure if he's 10. Right. And yeah, it's like it felt like things were so great in Buffalo, but now he's there's, he's not playing for the Sabres next year. Oh, yeah, it's over. So that's kind of interesting. Where he ends up will be even more interesting

is a sign and trade something that's going to happen. I never really understand those, to be perfectly honest. But it's, with Buffalo, I'm now like, you just made playoffs in the most electric year of all time. and now you've lost Bowen Byron for a great return, and now you're about to lose Alex Tuck,

who was one of your better players all season long, what do you do now? Because you can't regress if you're Buffalo. So this is another situation where it's like, okay, Tuck is gone. If there are fans who are like, yeah, I didn't want to pay him, I'm happy about that. Okay, but you've got to replace him.

So what are you going to replace him with? Because as we always talk about, I'm loving all these trades. If you just look at straight up UFAs, he was one of the top UFAs. So like if you lose him, what is the trade you're making now? Yep. And dude, I hope I'm wrong about this, what I'm about to say.

I hope I'm wrong. But I have receipts that I don't want out there. But I have some text to people that were like, the sabres are not good, even during this heater that they were on. I was like, this team is not good. Their coach is not doing anything to me. make this happen. This isn't a coaching wizardry that's happening here. And what a story. It was awesome. I'm happy for Lindy. I'm happy for the people. But I was like, nothing's happening from the coach. You do not have cup caliber goalies. And your team is playing super well. And they deserve

all the credit in the world because it was way more than a flash in the pan. You don't get to say, the Sabres were a flash in the pan when they were the damn near best team in the league from December, whatever the fuck, 9th through the end of the year. with the avalanche in the league, right? So you did all that. But this Sabres team overperformed. They are not that good, in my opinion. I was expecting a regression anyway.

And then there goes Byron. Here goes Tuck. And I'm like, you guys aren't competitive. Like legitimately, and again, I hope I'm wrong. But I'm like, the Buffalo Sabres are about to miss playoffs and go, God damn it. And I'm going to go, what do you expect? Look at your roster.

This is not a scary roster in any way, shape, or form. especially with these dismissals. Listen, I don't like the way you're talking about the sabers. I'm just trying to be real, but yeah, I can't sit here and puff up my chest and be confident in saying that you are wrong. Because I hope I am. I hope the team is greater than the sum of their parts. I do agree that if they lose Byram and Tuck and do nothing, I'm a little bit like, what is this? That was not it.

And yeah, I do think it's a little weird how definitively Tuck is like, I am not coming back. here. And I mean, we're talking live here on a Wednesday morning. Yarmo was literally on the radio and he was like, he's not coming back. Yeah. Like that's that. They might trade his rights. They might do a sign and trade. But either way, tuck is gone. Yep. So we'll see what happens with that. We're going to bump one up here. Morgan Riley. Morgan Riley has apparently sent in a list of several, I think like four or five teams that he's willing to be traded to, but he's out in Toronto. And what we're hearing right now is the sharks are happening. Yep. So then, then there goes the Rewensky Terrade, you would assume.

What do I think about that? I wish the Sharks, Morgan Riley is a good talent and will have a field day on that power play. I disagree. Completely. You think you don't think he's, or what do you disagree with? Dude, what are you talking about? We've literally, all we have heard, all we have heard over the last five days

from Toronto fans is how they have not had a good defenseman on the power play since 2017. Morgan Riley has been on the team that whole time. Yeah, okay. I was just thinking... Do not, do not you dare try to say that this is an amazing powerplay pickup by the sharks. No, no, I didn't

mean that. I'm saying, I was thinking it was a Bouchard situation where you now get the benefit of being on that power play. He gets the field day, not the sharks are getting a bonus. He is getting a bonus. Wow, I just added so many power points to my stats. I mean, he has been, he has been on the power play with Austin Matthews and Willie Nealander and Mitch Marner.

Are you telling me that you think Maclin Celebrini and Will Smith are so much better than that? Nope. But I think Macklin is just what I think. I think he's going to have an incredible powerplay stat. Okay. Sure. Oh, if he goes to the Sharks. I mean, listen, I like Macklin more than any of those players.

I do. But I don't think that this is like, listen, any defensive ad for the Sharks is a massive win. I am not put it this way. Morgan Riley is very far removed from his 65 point season in my opinion. Morgan Riley had 65 points and 10 goals in 21, 22, where he was, I believe, or I actually don't even think he was an all-star. But he, that is his second best of his career. He had 72 points in 2019 with 20 tucks.

But since that 20 goal season, he had four goals. goals, eight goals, ten goals, four goals, seven goals, seven goals, eleven goals. Like, Morgan Riley is going to get you ten goals. Yeah, I'm going to need more than that. I don't, you're not going to get it. Yeah. He's 31 years old. Yep.

And that's not that old. And I think Morgan Riley will be great. I think Morgan Riley is a great player. But Morgan Riley, I think realistically on this Sharks team, you are hoping that he gets you 45 points. And where I was headed anyway was I would much prefer the Sharks to get someone who is playing D. Like I wish they would get a

I think of a good example because Slavin's too good but I wish they would get a guy like what Morgan, the Morgan Riley percentage disparity between what he gives you on offense and defense, I wish they did the exact opposite. I think Kessel ring is going

what I believe Kessler can be is that guy. Yeah, that's pretty close. Like I keep saying, you're four or five guy and I think he needs to be your PKK one eating fucking pox type of guy. But either way, when you get a one like this is no no disrespect meant but like if you are the Montreal canadians lane hudson is your

one he is not a great defensive player he's getting better and better and that's why he's awesome but you are not going he's also our penalty killer charlie mackovoi is that guy yeah yeah Zach wrenski is that guy kale mccar is that guy um i don't think yeah i don't think riley is way better at defense than people give him credit for, but yeah, he's not a slave in. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, like you said, any, any big D guy is good,

but I would love, I would love a fucking lockdown dude on that shark's team, because that's been a problem. Okay, next name, we've been skirting around it. Let's just quickly discuss Zach Orenski. The news came out that we haven't talked about yet on the pod is that

a statement was released that the Jackets are going to discuss his future after the which I think is absolutely moronic. Can we talk about that? Oh, dude, I'm flabbergasted. Like, what are you doing? Do it now. Absolutely. And also, what do you think? If there's a conversation about his future, that obviously, I would assume, means that he's maybe like, I would like out of here. So you have to have that conversation right now. Dude, not only because you could trade that pick, but also because if who you take is Zach Wrenski is hanging in the balance of who you take, then I would want his opinion immediately.

I would go, Zach, tell me, tell me who you want me to fuck, and I will fuck them, dude. And, and then that's it. Then you can stay. Without question, Chris, like, truly point at something. And I will, and I will fuck it. I will fillate it. Yep.

But these are those weird situations where, like, I don't even know what these conversations are. Yep. It's like, it's like, I always talk about this with relationships. When people are like this, like, we're, yeah, we're having like a really serious conversation we're going to couples there we're couples therapy we're we're doing this we're doing that and i'm like just break up dude yeah now that's a that's a pessimistic take and i'm being i'm i'm joking around but you know what i mean yeah for for warensky it's like if you are sitting here with what does he

have two years left on his deal at nine point five something if you're warrenski and you want this conversation to me i just don't know i don't know what columbus could possibly say that makes me totally change my tune. Yeah, 9.58, two more years. And it sucks, because, like, I think that they're good. I think they've got a solid little squad, but you just look at the competition in the east, even, and it's like, oh, fuck me. Yeah.

Like, I don't know. Like, what are they, what's going to happen that's going to get them up over the edge? I know, dude. They've got to, they've got to give Fance his RFA deal. They've got Boone Jenner, who's a UFA. Sounds like he's on the move. Mason Marshman is UFA. Cole Cylinger's an RFA.

They've got just like, and I'm pretty sure Marchenko is RFA next year, and people are already talking about like, do they move him too? So now I'm like, are you guys in full blowup rebuild mode? So to me, put it this way.

If Zach Wrenski is moved this summer and it happens after the draft, I think that is a massive miss. Me too. So it's like, how do you not fucking talk right? Get on the phone, dude. How do you not get that figured out right now? Let's bump that conversation up. Let's have that future talk maybe on Friday. Maybe you could change his calendar. Like, you know, you trick him. You change his phone settings, make him think it's- Yeah, you hack them. Yeah. And I go, dude, it's July 10th. Let's chat. And he goes, amazing. I slept for three weeks. He goes, what did I do for the fourth? And I go, and we have edited photos. Nate makes a bunch of photos of Varensky partying on the fourth. And we go, dude, you ripped it up.

You have absolutely got to have that conversation. Yeah. Right fucking now. Where do you like for him? The sharks. Really? Like, I know the sharks make sense, but where do you like for him? Like, if I'm him, where am I happy?

Yeah, or, like, as a fan of Zacharanzky, where are you happy? Because I have one that no one's talking about. Um. Who? Boston. Oh, yeah. It's always Boston for you. What have I ever said Boston other than the Connor Badaar-Bard?

When that was a situation where that we just used as a exact. Two today. We also talked about 25 other teams. Two today, Dan. Two today. That was an example. It might as well be a Dunkin' Donuts.

Yeah. Jesus fucking Christ. What's in that? What's in that, dude? It's Duncan Donuts. Yeah. Boston would be good. I think you put him and Charlie McAvoy together.

How special would that look? A little USA vibes. We need more USA vibes. And as we keep talking about, Boston for the first time in a long time has they have prospects and they have picks. Yep. And you look at what Brady Kachuk got. If you go, you know, one of their great prospects, maybe you go Mason Lurai, you go two first round picks, maybe a Zaka, you know, maybe a middle stat, I don't know.

Yeah. But the money works. And there's a lot of talk about not bringing back Andrew Peek because you want to improve the defense. There you go. There's your left shot guy. You allow Hampas to be the second line guy. You allow, like, Lora is not, if he's included in the deal, whatever. Yeah.

I think it's a, I think it's something that Sweeney should absolutely be considering. Yeah. We've given him so much credit over this last year of the re-tool. Yeah. And how fast it's gone. But as I, as we keep saying, like going into that playoff series, I was like, they're not winning this series. Yeah.

And as fun as this season was for Boston, getting into the playoffs and as even keeled as they were all season. They are not competing for a cup right now with the current roster. And if you are a Boston fan and if you are the Boston Brass and you hear David Posternack being like, I'm 30, dude. What's going on? Like, let's go. Charlie McBoys getting older. Sway is playing phenomenally capitalized on that.

Make a trade. Like you're looking at all these teams doing it. Sweeney, you can't have been gotten back into the good graces here and then sit back. Like, I think Boston needs to make a big trade too. And I think that's one I would look at. I love that. You got anyone? You're just going to sit there?

I don't have anyone. Okay. You like the sharks? I like the sharks. The problem is I was just thinking of teams that I want to get D, but then they stink. So then I don't want him to go there. Like everyone that comes behind, I'm like, oh, that wouldn't be fun for him. Vegas.

Vegas would be cool. Because here's the thing, like, Wrenski's 28. I know. He's like, his next deal is his last deal. And I imagine if he gets moved, he's like, I want to move to the team. that I retire with. Yeah. He goes to Vegas.

He has a great life. He plays with Jack, Team USA, plays with Hanofin, team USA. Patrangelo's not coming back. Yeah. Probably wins a cup in Vegas.

Vegas is a very good one. I like that. Yeah. I love that. I love L.A. I love Tampa. Ooh, L.A. would be fun. I love Lamp.

I love Lamp. I love Lamp. There's so many moves that L.A. needs to make, and I genuinely, I just don't know what they have to. I know. That's the problem. It's brutal.

Okay. Last one, two seconds. Hellebuck. If we do think that that move is happening, do you think Florida is out? Yeah. Yeah. Because they've already their cap makes no sense. Oh, I don't think I agree with that.

The amount of players that they have under the cap is the cap was built to make sure the Florida Panthers, as currently constructed, couldn't possibly exist. That is the entire reason for the NHL salary cap. and then they have done it anyway. And then if they also get Hellebuck, then they should get rid of the cap and make it European. Well, they'll have to trade a player, but they've got 7 mil.

They do have some guys to sign, though. Yeah, I don't think the Panthers can do it. Do you think Vegas can do it? How much space do they have? Like you trade Aiden Hill. Dude, this is the other thing. I think people forget. Hellebuck is on 7.5, I think.

That's insane. saying 8.5. But like, that's not that much. It's great. It's great. Hellebuck is on 8.5 for several more years. And Vegas currently only has 4.6. But we talked about they're probably going to bury Stone.

How much is you get? But Aiden Hill's on 6.2. Like, you can trade Aiden Hill and. Now you have enough for Hellibon. Like maybe Dorofiev. Right. Yeah. Right.

because you've got to get him. Yeah. You got to pay to get him. Oh, that's tricky, though, because then you go, like, Hellebuck. Vegas wins the cup this year if they have Hellebuck. But then you go, fuck, we now lose stone.

We don't have stone next year, theoretically. And you've lost. And you've lost Dorfeev, and I'm like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. So, yeah, that one's tricky. I think they're in the running, though. They are, they are, for sure.

They are. I also think Carolina is. Me too. I love, that would be, if Carolina, drops their nuts and also goes and gets hellabox? I'd feel bad for Bussy, honestly, but it'd still be sick. I know, me too.

You'd be like, oh, dude. But I think Carolina is definitely in the running for that, which would be very exciting. Yeah, that would be nasty. Fucking A, dude. As we said, something's about to happen with Washington Capital is percolating. I know. It's percolating. Okay.

Let's talk about Babcock and then get to an ad break. Officially hired. Officially hired. Do you have anything more to say other than what we've already said? No, I just wanted a prediction from you guys. My prediction is this. The Oilers this year come out like, you know, the last few years they've been so bad to start. The Oilers are going to start this season 14 and 2 and be on a record-breaking pace absolutely on fire.

That will cool off a little bit, but they will go wire to wire and win the Pacific. and then and it will be no literally zero speed bumps with Babcock there'll be no like oh he did this thing and it was bad the team will go he's perfect he's everything we asked for we're being held accountable McDavid will still have all the points as will Leon it's not like they're going to start sacrificing points to play more

D everything's going to be completely fine wire to wire Pacific win I think they're going to go super deep in the playoffs either make the cup or the Western Conference finals at minimum and I think they're going to lose in, and I hope for their sake it's Western Commerce Finals because another cup loss would be such a dagger. They're going to lose in the Western Commerce Finals. And then Connor is going to go, I'm definitely staying because this guy has been awesome and now we're really improving him right there. And then in year two, a nuclear bomb goes off and like they stink, they hate him. He's

fired midseason. And now Connor is sitting in January in a wild card spot in Edmonton, knowing he's a UFA at the end of this year. And he's like, oh, shit. Because now I have fucked myself where I told Edmonton, I would never fuck them over. But now I need to either be dealt at the deadline for less than I would have got two summers ago or walk for free. Or sign here and ruin the rest of my life and career. Wow, you did a two season. You did two season prediction on Babcock.

Yeah. I think in your scenario, you're insane. if they make the cup and lose, if you don't think Connor immediately signs a seven-year deal, you're out of your mind. Sines the extension then, yeah. Like, I don't even think that's debatable. So, them being good this year

and falling short is the worst thing that could ever happen to Connor McDavid. Because it will make him go like this. We did it. We solved it. And he signs, and then they are dead. And he dies with them. Yep.

I don't know, dude. I don't know. I don't have much to say about this that we already didn't say, I cannot, I cannot believe when we talk about like the old boys club in the coaching staff of the NHL, how it keeps happening. Yep.

We got to get Mike Commodore on the show to talk about Babcock and how outspoken he is. Babcock getting another shot in this league and somehow being the guy that certain members of the Oilers think is the key, is the answer is surprising to me. But then again, I don't personally know Mike Babcock. All I know is what I hear. And the overwhelming response from everyone that we have spoken to in the hockey world, players, coaches, GMs, media is bad.

How is that a good thing? When is that ever worked? When is the last time a coach or someone was hired where 99% of what you hear is, this is insane. that's a bad move. Yeah. So I, I, that's what just confuses me. And I think that that's what makes this leak so goddamn fun and so entertaining. Maybe they know something we don't. But it is so deliciously insane that this is what's happening. So I'm just going to sit back and enjoy it. I don't see this going well. I, but I don't see it. I think it's going to. I think Babcock is,

he, he's Mike Babcock, you know, like he, as a fan of the Detroit Redwood, wings when I was younger, he got me a Stanley Cup. And that's a ridiculous thing to say. I'm not a diehard, but I loved that team and I got to watch them win a Stanley Cup. And thank you, Mike Babcock. But I think when he went to Toronto, everyone thought what you were saying right now, and it didn't work at all. Yeah. And then he went to Columbus, and it was hilarious disaster. So I just don't know why people think that regardless of having Connor McDavid and Leon Drysidal, he is just like this brilliant mind that's going to change everything

so I just I assume that they will have a very similar year to this year yeah I'm I think I think that the reason I think not is because everyone thinks that like every single person is like this will end badly and this is not going to go out I'm like this is going to go so well I think it has to go well I just feel like by some sheer force of will yeah he's he's a changed man dude

he's been humbled yeah Now he knows. Yeah, I wouldn't bring my phone to the rink. No, God, no. That locker room is bugged. Or my wallet. That locker room is bugged. I promise you that.

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It is this Friday in Buffalo. And people are buzzing. I actually didn't think about this. Because this was actually, I don't know if I've said this. to you yet. I shouldn't tell story in the pod. But I didn't. Sick, Chris. I maybe could, but I was just like, I don't know. But the, I didn't realize that the, it's so close to Toronto, Buffalo is, and the Leafs have the first pick. That's why it's become such a ticket ordeal. Normally I'm like, who goes to that? But now it's like, oh,

all the Leafs fans are pouring into Buffalo to watch them pick first. Yeah. Which is, that is actually cool because I don't really see the huge poll to go to a draft with your boys but if you had the first pick I guess that would be pretty fun yeah um the here are our thoughts on the draft it's happening

and Gavin McKenna's going first Stenberg is going second Malhotra's going third read is going fourth Carols is probably going fifth yeah and we got to be in Albert Smith's he's probably going six or seven or right in there he's up there and it's going to

So dead chalk, enjoy the draft picks being traded. That's where the fun is. There's no fun to be had on Friday. Unless you're a fan of this player or the team and you're psyched to see your team take this guy. But I'll just newsflash if you're late to the draft. Remember that RunPee movie app that was like, there was this app, Evan, called RunPee. Oh, yeah, I know what RunP is. Gas.

I don't need it, though. Yeah, because you have a fucking camel blatter. No. because I know the exact moment when there's a scene that I'm like, I don't need to see this scene. Okay, you're a pro. Yeah. So Run P. If you were five minutes late, you would go, here's the first five minutes. If you're five minutes, dude, it's probably going to be 30 minutes. If you're 30 minutes late to the draft and miss the first five picks, don't worry. It was Gavin McKenna to the Leafs. Gavin McKenna to the Lees. Ivers Denbark to the Sharks, Caleb Mahaltrow to the Canucks, Chase Reed to the Sabres. There's your D-Van for Byram and Carson Carroll's to the Rangers. Congratulations.

See you next Tuesday. We'll talk about it. See you next Tuesday. Listen, I'm just like, we'll talk on Tuesday about the results of the draft. I just, you know, we're not a prospect show. If you are the Leafs, Sharks, Canucks, Sabers, Rangers, and Flames, be excited. This is an exciting thing. My prospect is wondering how the Maple Leafs are going to ruin this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope they don't, but... I'm excited to see the draft, and I'm excited to talk about it on Tuesday.

That's basically how I. Great. Okay. Yeah, that's great. Okay, well, an interesting debate came up in the annex, in the sports annex yesterday. Loop said, Evan, he goes, I was carrying my dirty clothes into my hamper in my bedroom.

And on the way there, I had to walk by. my washing machine. And it occurred to me, why don't I just use my empty washing machine as my hamper? The hamper is literally just a middleman, and I should just start filling, every time I have dirty clothes, just put it in the washing machine, and then once it's full, put detergent in it and run it.

And his roommate, his former roommate, he now lives with his wife, his former roommate. Right, he's married. Yeah, used to do such a thing. He was like, that's what my guy did. That was his hamper. And everyone said it might be the best. idea they'd ever heard. But then Dan

was like, you guys are all fucking peasant idiots. I, it makes me so sad that you guys are the age that you are and you still think the way that you think. It's a time-saving maneuver. Listen, I get it, but, and

there are situations where some people live in a really small apartment. Like, I think that this is the case in New York City a lot. It was the case in Alice's London. apartment where you have one of those dual machines where it's like it's a washing machine and a dryer oh you don't have that much room in your bedroom for a hamper and like you know it is what it is there is water residue and moisture in your washing machine it is also a dark dank environment so putting

your clothes in there, you're inviting the increase of mold and like bad smells to your clothing. It is bad for your clothing to do that. So that is why I think it is insane. Also, invest in a nice hamper. Like I have a lidded hamper and I also have a dual-sided hamper where I put all of my workout clothes in one side and all of my regular clothes in the other. So my regular clothes aren't sitting in sweat with my other workout clothes. And it costs maybe $5 more. Yep. So I do not agree with this idea.

I understand the efficiencies take that you're doing, but I'm like, you're wrong. The dual side is great because I was right about to say, I, half of my clothes are soaked in sweat and I throw them in the hamper. So all the clothes in my hamper are sitting in a moisture-rich environment. It's a very good point. and when when loop said this or Dan brought up the water in the washing machine which I actually think is right even though my clothes are also soaked anyway but I do think that's right I was like put them okay use the dryer as your hamper which is very dry and then when when that's full

you just take it out boom drop it in the washing machine boom wash and then wash and then loop wouldn't that leave some smells then loop was like the dryer would smell bad but I was like I don't know that the dryer would smell back. How often are you washing your clothes? That's the question. Because I think if you leave it in for like a day or two, it's probably okay. I do a full, full load of laundry once a week. I'm one,

I'm kind of two weeks, maybe one and a half weeks. Here's the thing though, I am, I've got something to say to you because I lived with you for a long time and I, you do something that I think is a big mistake. Which is what? You overload. Oh, no, I don't. Yes, you do, dude. You absolutely, this is what,

this, let me fucking educate you again on your peasant behavior. Number one, you definitely know this, Ev, but a lot of the guys in there did not know this. Right. You also have to clean your washing machine. Yeah. There's a self-clean feature where you put in a different type of cleaning material that cleans the washing machine to make sure it gets out mold and bad smell and all that. And I don't think a lot of you guys knew that. So that's something that people should know. Well, these are things that people need to learn that they don't learn. So like, you know, it's like replace the air filter on your fucking car. Replace, flush out your hot water heater.

Yes. Like, this is stuff that they don't teach you. This is also a thing that you have to do with your dishwasher, folks. You have to self-clean your dishwasher. Yeah, it's a bummer. And then here's another one. When your dishwasher and your washing machine says, don't overload, it's not a challenge. They're not, like, people see that and they go like this.

Try me, dude. Watch me. Stuff clothes in here. They're not saying that like, elevator where it's like this is not going to work if you put too much in it they're saying because it won't clean your clothes if you have too many clothes in there and you try to wash it all clothes get stuck in the middle and they're not getting properly washed and that's why you then pull your clothes out of the dryer and it still smells like shit oh yeah i'm i'm well aware and i there was a time in my life

where i didn't know that and i would overload and then i remember pulling clothes out and being like oh this reeks and then now so you have learned oh my god dude i this was in college and I went like this, why is this happening? And somebody was like, because you have stuffed that to the brim. And then the second I get a washing machine where a second I moved to a new house and I get the washing machine, I fill it up to what I think is the line. And if ever anything comes up that I'm like, oh, that kind of smell still, I now lower the line permanently moving forward. Yeah. Um, I have major issues that I think washing machine, a non-overload washing machine. Like I put clothes in, this is a completely acceptable amount of clothes to be in this washing

machine. And then I move that exact amount of clothes and put it in the dryer and it won't dry in the normal dry cycle because they're like, oh, there's too many clothes in here. I'm like, you too need to get on the same page because this is a completely appropriate amount of clothes to be in this washing machine. Why aren't you drying? Yeah, that does, I don't know what it is because that happens to you more than anyone. Our Francis dryer. Remember it would just like you'd look, it'd be like two minutes and it'd be like 15 minutes. Yes. And I'm like, how are you, why are you adding time?

How have you not dried the clothes that fit in the washing machine? I know, but that's- Some dryers lose their, they lose their heat energy, right? Like they get like, maybe that's weaker over time. Because it was crazy because I'm like, there's not even a lot of clothes in here.

These clothes fit in the washing machine. The washing machine is the limiting factor. I've gotten to a point now where I, I wash my clothes longer on lower heat because I don't want my clothes to get baked. Yes. Like shrink some and it makes them all fucked up. You lose the color.

You lose the color. Is there softness? It's a disaster. It's a disaster. I hang dry most stuff. Yeah, that's actually, that actually is what sucks is that nothing can be dried. In fact, that's what I've learned. It does ruin clothing.

Yeah, so now I'm like, okay, I can't dry anything. So basically what happens to me is I do the wash, but it's like, I wait too long, so now I have enough dirty clothes in the hamper that it doesn't fit because I would be overloading the washing machine. So I can only put half my hamper in the machine. Then that washes, I take that out. I have to hang dry 90% of it, which takes five days. then I'm like, well, I'll get around to folding that at some point. So then five more days go by.

And then I put the other half of my hamper in. Then those hang dry, but I have nowhere to hang dry those. So then I start hanging them on shit outside. Yeah, that's what, yeah. Yeah, so then they dry quicker, but now there's like tree debris on them. And like the sun, nothing will suck color out of something like the sun. Right. So then they're getting ruined anyway.

And then I come back inside and nothing is folded or put away. and then I can't get dressed for work because I have no clothes because they're all in some mildewy form hanging somewhere on my property. We're going to get you a drying one of those drying racks. I have one. Oh, you go. They don't do anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You mean they don't do anything. I'm like, dry the clothes. You're a drying rack. Yeah, and they do. No, they just sit there and let the air dry them. Well, that dry. That's what it is. Dry the clothes.

Are you an idiot? Here you go, drying rack. You know what? I think it's an air issue. Make them dry. Yeah. They air dry. It's an air drying rack.

It takes a long time. It is called that. Also, I live too close to the beach, so everything is soaked in my house. Yeah, you are in a very, like, moldy, milady house. That's insane. Like, literally, I hang shit up, and it's more wet than when I took it out of the washing. Do you guys have a dehumidifier? We have 12.

There's one. I'm not kidding. There's one in every room. And, Dan, they stop working on purpose when the tray fills with water. You know, it's like, it's like whirring to work and then it goes, the lights are flashing and it goes, you need to empty the water tray.

I have to empty the water tray every day, every several hours. It's just sucking all the moisture out of the air, filling up immediately and then nothing works. Everything is still soaked in my house and the demitifiers don't work. And I think I need to get like an industrial

grade dehumidifier that they sell to homes after you've had water damage and your basement is under four feet of water. I'm going to call all dry. Well, now we know why, your hair's so good because you've got all that humidity. It's incredible. No dry hair.

Ever, dude. It's insane. You think I shower before work? You just wake up. Just walk through the house like this. Oh, Jesus. So anyway, I will be using my washing machine as a hamper. That's what I've learned.

Because all that matters to me in this life is saving time. I absolutely hate that move by you. You want to do your pictures? Yeah. So we had some people asking us to, or you know what was happening was I ran out of storage on my phone. Yes, this is sad. I hate when this happens.

I ran out of storage on my phone, and I hate fucking when that happens. God damn you, Apple. It's such bullshit. And I was going through photos and videos and deleting some. And it just got me looking at old photos of all of us, but a bunch that came up of you that just absolutely fucking cracked me up. And I was like, God, people would love to know these stories.

So I wanted to, and I'm going to let you do this. the same, but I wanted, Chris and I sent photos to Dr. Watkins that he's going to pull up on a screen that we're going to also show you on the screen here. And we have not seen these. And basically, it's a, what was going on here? Yep. And it's, we're going to give each other the opportunity to explain to the people and to Evan what was going on in these photos. I love it. So we're starting with yours? It's a photo of Dan or it's a photo Dan submitted? Hold on. Dan submitted. Okay, ready? Yeah. Don't look. Let's start with me, submitter. submitted photos. All right, here we go. We're going to start with your first submitted photo here.

Okay, this is... What was going on here? This is during COVID, Dan and our roommate Marty and myself were making videos, Evan. We would recreate scenes from movies we really liked and just filmed them in the backyard. Nice. And it was really fun. And we were doing grease. I always got the girl. I always had to play the girl because all the women in movies back then had blonde hair. I mean, kind of still, but it was like the girl was always a blonde hair girl. And so I was playing, I think that's me as Sandy from Greece. Right. And even funnier fact about this picture, this picture is we continued up until Thanksgiving 2020, I believe, or no, is that the one we stopped that or did we stop at Thanksgiving? Yeah, must have been. Thanksgiving 2020.

Did we even go that far? Yeah, because it was like, we were leaving for Thanksgiving. That was the last one. Oh, yeah. Wait. Wait. Yeah. Yes. Sorry. So we only shot, um, like three after Halloween. Halloween hits. Then we shot three more and then we were done forever. And this was one of the post-Hallinois ones. And that Halloween 2020 is when I met my now fiancee. And, This picture is one of the first pictures I ever texted her because she was like, what are you up to after I had met her? And I was like, I'm dressed as Sandy from Greece. And she tells the story being like, why? What the fuck? Who is this person? So this picture means- Do you have makeup on in this photo? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I also think from what I'm looking at here, I think you're in your underwear. Yeah, under armor. Because I see your under armor label. Yeah, yeah. Because, dude, she was in spandex. She's in like tight, tight spandex. Yeah. We were always going to try to get the collar. costumes as best we could from whatever we had around house.

Where can we find these videos? Oh, did I'll send it to you. Do they live online somewhere? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You'll love it. We got to make a link to this. Yeah, it's amazing. So that picture, Dan, has even more meaning to me.

There you go. Very good. All right, what's next? You tell me, whatever one Chris submitted. Oh, Chris. You do whatever you want, yeah. We'll start here. What's going on in that one?

I have literally no idea. I believe that's in Tahoe. Is that in Tahoe? Yes, great memory. Yeah, that's in Tahoe year after COVID. We're at this like tiny bar in in Tahoe. And is that the bar where everyone has to do a shot when you walk in? And it's also mere, mere hours before we all.

We all got COVID in the first time. You all got COVID? Am I hammered in this photo? just posing like an idiot. I think both. I thought this was Halloween and you were going as like a gang member or something. No, dude. I got my ski boots over the shoulder.

It's the tobogging. This is peak ski dan, yeah. Yeah. I've got the flannel on. I've got a fucking tukon with the hair pulled back. Yeah, the hair pulled back is what made me think you were a gangster. And yeah, this bar dude was, like you walked in this bar

and I'm pretty sure like the bar tax was taking a shot. Yeah. And yeah, It was pretty, everything went downhill from there. Literally. We all then got COVID. Do you remember the name of the bar? No. We can get it.

I feel like I should remember it though, because it was such a big deal. This bar was such a big deal. You drank it out of your memory. Yeah. Correct. He was, him and Brett were spitting alcohol back into each of his mouth. This looks like a whiskey face to me. Mm.

No, never. Never with me. Tequila for sure. All right. Okay. Now Chris is, or mine. Next one. Ready?

Oh, dude. Okay, this is awesome. This was at, God, I lost my tucks this night. This was at my buddy, our buddy, Kevin Brooks' wedding. And we were in Dan and I, it was in Dallas? Austin, Austin. We're in our hotel room in Austin.

And the reception was right downstairs. So we had gone upstairs to change out of our tuxedo. And I was like trying to spear Dan off the side of the base. You had lost your jacket. Yeah, yeah, because I was... Yeah, and party was like, I have it. And part he was like, I have it. And like, no one had it.

And, dude, you were, you were polluted. Yeah, correct. It was unbelievable. So I'm like, Dad, get me that jacket. And not like, I'm fighting Dan. I'm, like, laughing trying to spear him on hit to his bed. We have a double queen bed situation. And I go to tackle Dan and he goes like this, boom, swim move.

And I go, I like miss him, slip off his bed. land on my butt on the ground but then you know your like head swings back and my head in the back of my head drills my queen bed and I was like fuck and Dan's like you okay and I'm like yeah because I'm just like no dude you hit the

the bedside table in between the table okay yeah because you hit it so hard and I started dying laughing like it was so loud and you were just so drunk and limp like you hit it and you're like oh and dude you know when you're just like you know when you get

a bang and you just, you kind of like rub it because, like, God. Dude, I was just going like this because I was like, fuck, that hurts so bad. And he's like, all right. And I was like, yeah, fucking whatever. And then I just go like this and my hand is bloody. And I was like, fuck. And it honestly was like a nothing cut, but it just looked so funny. It looks pretty bad in the picture.

Well, because I rubbed it, you know, it was like rubbing the blood in because I was trying to rub the numb off my head. Yeah, you look like Terry Funk and then I went back down. I think I popped a hat on, popped a hat on, went back down and had a great after part. You got to be careful. This is how Bob Sagot died. Fuck, really?

What? Yeah, I remember he bumped his head in a hotel room, and then he just was like, I'm going to bed, and then he died. Well, he was probably on a lot of shit and bleeding out. Bob Saggett? No. Never. America's dad.

Never. Now, I'm just saying, but it's a good thing you were with each other because if you had, like, gone to sleep. Yeah, oh, yeah. I didn't go to sleep for like three more hours. Kept potty. There you go. All right. Crazy.

Here we go. Next one is. Next one for me. Oh, the next one. No, well, it should be, let's just do this one. Yeah. Oh, yeah, there you go. Look how long your hair is.

Look at how great my hair is. This was a Disneyland day. Yes, Stan. Another one. Shout out Marty again. Yep. Our boy Marty worked for a Disney show, so we had great Disneyland passes. Yeah.

And we went to Disney and it was one of these times. It was like so hot. Yeah. And we were like, let's go to Disney and let's drink everywhere we possibly can. And it was like a rusty Willie D. Yeah, I was going to say, but you guys did it before. And I think there was like a some like, two for one. deal at this like frozen margarita stand.

Uh-huh. And let me tell you what, dude, drinking at Disney is not fun because everything is so sugary and it's so hot there. Yeah. So by like 2 p.m., I was the drunkest I've ever been and also just like sweaty and sticky. And you're going on 3D Star Wars rides and you're in the absolute vortex and it's just insane. Did you do the Star Wars canina, the bar there? Oh yeah. I think we did. Yeah, yeah. Sure did. Blue milk, whatever it is. God, Star Wars, Star Wars World was. I had my Paddington tea on there.

Yeah, look at it. There was actually another, or maybe it's in this, so I'll save it. Okay. Okay. What's the night? All right, we'll go, we'll go. I expected you to go a little harder on these pictures. Yeah, now, I'm just like, nice memories. We'll do this one, too. Okay, I'm also wearing the Paddington. That's what it was. I was like, there was so many pictures that I found that were also in that shirt, and I was like, this is Lay. This guy loves Paddington. I have no, the picture's not big enough for me to see what's happening here. Here, let me zoom in. You're making food.

There's wings involved. I have no idea. So Chris has. There's a bunch of paper plates and beers. No, it's, that's hot sauce. Oh, sick. I see, I see Wally in there somewhere. No, this was awesome.

This was for my birthday. Chris knows that I am a massive fan of, Hot Ones. And Chris got me the Hot Ones kit and then put me through the Hot Ones experience. Oh, nice. If people came over, I asked him 10 interview questions. Taking a step towards my dream of being a guest on Hot Ones one day. You will.

Sean Evans, I'm waiting, brother. Yeah. And it was awesome. I crushed it. Yeah, you did. I really crushed it. It was so sick. But this was before or after?

This was pre. Yeah, because it looks like you're doing like some of a joke. I had to put gloves on to get the wings all sauced up. Hot under the collar. That was great. What is it? No admittance except on party business. Yeah.

Yeah, dude. Bill Bill Bowgan's house. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Fucking, what a time. What a time to be allowed. All right. And then, I think that's it, but we have one video. I have one video for you, Chris.

Okay. All right, I'm going to load it up here. Don't look. Look away. You ready? Yeah. Is the volume on? Yeah.

Ready? Okay, ready? That is our Culver City House. together. Jackass 5. That is Pierce. Shut out Pierce. What's happening there, dude?

We got home from a night out. Pierce and Dre and Dan were attacking me, but Dan is filming in this instance. And that is Pierce. What is that? It's a shoe. Pierce takes his shoe. I think it's your shoe because your shoes are all. Yeah.

Pierce takes his shoe and whips me as hard as he possibly can in the butt. Oh. And that's what it feels like. See, people think that's all fun in game. That's what it feels like. Just so you know, if you ever have been spanked by a shoe after a night out while you're lying on the ground, that's what it feels.

That is like 12 years ago. The noise. Pierce can swing it too. The noise of the shoe hitting you and then your scream is so good. Pierce laughing. Peirce laughing is so funny. Oh my God. Pierce laughing is so funny.

You just like, you get so crippled. It's unbelievable. That is very normal drunk. That is Pierce. That I would react exactly that. But why are you on the ground, shoeless? Because they've already been whipping me. I'd been whipped several times that night.

I was in a, I was a beaten down man. Dre and Pierce, dude, getting you back. God, dude, that was good. Oh, my God. You want to do blind rankings? Do you want to do fireworks? Sure. This is just a discussion, really.

Yeah. I have a thought because we're getting up on Fourth of July. I think you shouldn't be lighten off fireworks unless it's the Fourth of July. Oh, Evan. You are talking to the right guy, now. I know it's old man yellow clouds, but it's just... I think fireworks are fucking stupid. I don't think they're cool.

all. And when they go off on 4th of July, okay, cool. But whenever people do fireworks at like a concert or at a baseball game, I'm always like, why do people like fireworks so much? I don't get him. Really? Not a big fireworks. Yeah, I don't, I do agree with the people. I don't love the people that are like taking pictures of fireworks. I do. I don't know. That's so pointless. Never understand people who film fireworks. Because I'm like, sit there and fucking watch them. I actually, this is pre. What if they never see him again? Well, this is like pre-i-phone. I don't even know what. Maybe it's like a, some phone that had a screen of some kind, maybe a razor or something, I used to take pictures of fire.

I would sit at fireworks and try to take the pictures just until I got a sick one and then I would make it my wallpaper. Right. So like, I was doing it because I was like, I just want a cool firework shot wallpaper from the fourth or whatever. So I was like, everyone would cheer at me, but I'd be like, I'm doing it for one thing. And then I stop, you know. But the people that film the whole thing or take pictures, I'm like, you will never use

this again. Yeah, what's the point? Crazy. I disagree with Dan. I think they are cool. and I kind of, I think they're overused. That's why I agree, that part I agree with you. The part I disagree with you is I have enjoyed times where I'm at a sick concert or something,

like at Coachella and like Zed ends and like fireworks explode. Right. The last thing goes off and I go like this, that was sick. I'm not like, wow, what a waste of, no, that you're saying that, but I'm never like this. I'm not saying that either. Yeah. I just don't, I don't find them that amazing. On the 4th of July, there's like cool nostalgia feelings I feel like being.

back in Maine and Sandlot and New England. And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, this is cool. Yeah. Any other times, I'm not like, boo, fuck this. But I am not like, oh my God. I just like, to me I'm like, you've seen one set firework, you've seen them all. Yeah. My personal policy, and this is just because in my neighborhood, it'll be like a full month before 4th of July.

And fuckers are lighten out fireworks. I went to Chris's house for dinner on Sunday. And it was fucking 10 p.m. And motherfuckers were just blast. Fireworks. Yeah. And like, I like fireworks if they're administered by a professional.

Like, for example, we're going to go see Jurassic Park on the Fourth of July. Sick. And afterwards they're going to do fireworks. Yep. My wife said she did this years ago, and they all went off at once.

So it was just a giant. Amazing. Yeah. That's so funny. But, like, I don't mind people doing an amateur deal. It's just like, just do it on the day.

Yeah. Just do it on the day. That's fine. But, like, random fucking Tuesday night, come on. Dude, and I actually,

I actually kind of don't like, the amateur deals where I'm like bro or a production is fine I don't like if you're going to the movie and they're doing it but I kind of don't like even on the fourth when people are just letting them rip and I'm like dude no right but that's like that's fine if it's on the four they really doesn't I mean I don't care I don't want to see it really but it also my dog fucking it just goes so badly so often too I'm like get a fucking spark or sign your name in the sky and shut the fuck up oh dude especially in this state I mean wildfire problem are you kidding like yeah Jesus Christ dude anyway

Okay. That's the old man yell at clouds. No, I like it. I will say this one year. I flew back to L.A. because we would usually go home for the fourth when we were younger when we lived here because it was such a rip. And one year, the way it broke, you know,

let's say the fourth was like a Tuesday. So most offices were like, you have Monday off, Tuesday off, but you're in office Wednesday. So it was like we had the whole weekend. Then I had to fly Tuesday. Yeah. So I stayed as late as possible on the East Coast and my flight back was late. And the fireworks in L.A.

were going off as I was landing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was kind of sick because it was literally like, I know it wasn't this close, but it felt like they were exploding, like, right outside the plane window. Yeah. And I was like, yo. Similar experience to like we left a party on 4th of July before the fireworks went off. We were on the 101.

Yeah. Or, you know, on any freeware, you can just start seeing them going everywhere. So sick. It's kind of fun. Let's close things out with the blind ranking. Blind ranking. The World Cup kits from various countries. Whoa.

This year? Yep, this year specifically. Yeah, this is all pulled from an article. 26 uniform jersey kids. Here we go, ready? Yep. Japan. Then, see, this is tough because I don't know what Dr. Watkins is going to do to us.

Because Japan, I could go fucking last, but I could also go if he mixes in, there's a lot of bad ones. There's a ton. There's so many. it's hard to get down to five I want to go I believe it's on the screen too you're seeing oh yeah yeah yeah we're doing the

we're doing the Japan whites because every team has two kits right um I I do not love these I love the old Adidas logo um

I just don't I think Japan's flag is so fucking sick and I'm just looking at the colors of the rainbow here and I don't really get it. Me neither. I would go five but I'll save that basement

and go four. Yeah, I'll go four. Four. Four. All right. France which I'm assuming is the home kit but I'm not 100%. Um their whites

are so bad. The whites are awful. It's like I love the fucking rooster so much in the France game. You're always going to get extra points when you got a World Cup star on there and they got a couple. When it comes to soccer kits, I am a purist and I love a collar. Oh, okay. Especially in international play.

I love how France goes heavy on the blue. And that said, the design, the zigzag design on this one, I don't think there's enough red in this kit. and I just it feels like they're doing too much agree and I'm not a collar guy so I don't like this one at all I can't quite go worse than Japan so I will go three this is a three but I love that rooster

Canada away I like this believe it or not God there are so many sick fucking jerseys and these just these ones are just not that dude okay well I actually here's why I fuck with this

the you got to have fun with the away, right? Yeah. And especially if you don't have, sometimes we talk about this. Also, you go black with the way I'm always loving it. We do. And this is completely, I highly doubt this is real. I think this is a Chris creation. But when a pond is perfectly frozen, it's like black. And then you skate on it and it looks just like this. I swear to God, Canada, this is a literal frozen pond skated on Jersey. And it's Canada. And it's the maple leaf. Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, I actually fucking love this one. Yeah. But I'm in a tough spot because I cannot go one because of the haymakers. Their home kid is so sick. But I'm a, I'm a thrilled two here. Like, I love this jersey and I'm so happy at two.

All these kids, like, sometimes they do too much with like an artistic expression. And this is bordering on that. But it does have a pond vibe and I love the maple leafs in there. And I don't think they were going for it. It could also be a blow on a mirror. I'm okay with two. But yeah, yeah. I was, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you know, to. To be perfectly honest. It looks like blow on a mirror. Yeah. If you squint, it looks like like a black marble countertop with a ton of cocaine. Yeah.

That one right in the middle has a pretty straight credit carded line up there. Yeah. I got to tell you, because I didn't, when I first looked at it, I didn't realize that there was like an outline of a maple leaf on there anywhere. Yeah. So to me, it just looked like somebody's cum rag. Jesus Christ. You're not wrong. Not to disrespect Canada.

But now I'm looking at it closer, it's better. So that's good. We're good too. Democratic Republic of Congo. It's going to be hard not to be one for me. Dude, what sucks is that is a good jersey. That is a really good jersey. And it's fucking feels cool.

It looks cool. It's a fucking umbrose, which is insanely sick. I mean, that is an unbelievable kit. There's just stuff that if it comes, I'll be fucking devastating. I know, but dude,

first of all, umbrose. because it would be mean to put this at five. That is an awesome kit. Fuck. You're either going to sacrifice DR Congo and hope something cool is coming or you're going to go, that is the coolest kit of all the four.

And maybe something bad's coming. You know what? Bird in hand. One. One. All right, we're going one. You pitch. USA.

I almost said just please don't do the USA. Fuck, dude. USA5. Where does this rank on your U.S. USA kits, though. It's not my favorite USA kit of all time, but I absolutely love this kit. And actually, my friend, uh, my Aussie friend, um, was talking shit when we were playing the other day. And she was like, this looks like some where's Waldo bullshit. And listen, that's a good shirt. That's a good

chirp. But at the end of the day, the stars and stripes are, is where's Waldo. Yes. Red and white stripes. And the fact that they went, the waving flag, I just think it's so fucking cool. I'm I love this kit. This would have been way higher. But honestly, I think the DR Congo one is really sick. Me too. Probably over this. Oh, yeah, me too.

This is definitely not five. Oh, no, but it's a very unworthy five. Like, Evan, why would you, you're American too. Why would you set us up for failing? He thought we were going to save one. I thought, honestly, you were going to put that Canada one way lower. Yeah. But the only thing that bugs me about this is the waving kind of makes it look like

whoever's wearing it has like a weird bulge in their like torso. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's just a little oblong. That's funny. That is funny. A strange gut. Not great on camera.

I love our away kits too, by the way. Yeah. I also, just for fun, was like, what's going on with Paraguay? This is like MS. That is so fucking funny, dude. Literally MS paint. Yeah. That's like they did the USA kit, but with MS paint.

That is so good. Spray paint. All right. Great blind ranking. Great episode, long episode, but a lot of stuff going on. Folks, like we said, the draft is this Friday. Also, we've got some amazing new merch we're going to be posted about. Make sure you snack some of these awesome hoodies.

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