Empty Netters Podcast - Every Team In The NHL Has A New Goalie and Now Canada Wins A Cup

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle, or was that all year? No, no, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:00:20 So we are back. We are horned up, and we are going deep. Finish tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guineasas and ran into you guys. That's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready and we're back with another episode of the empty narrative's podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I am your host, Dan Powers. We got Dr. Watkins on the sticks. We got CP fresh off of a seven-hour drive back from San Francisco,
Starting point is 00:00:47 watching the U.S. dog walk Bosnia and Herzegovina, but also shout out to all the Bosnians and the Herzegovina for an unbelievable tournament and an unbelievable game. You met some cool people. As always. Yeah. Yeah. And Locke's promised me that there would be no Bosnian or Herzegovina's there because he said this is a USA game in the USA and it's going to be a packed house.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Why would you trust the least traveled man you know? And then he was dead wrong. Yeah, I do. Of course. They're all amazing fans there, I bet. It was actually sick. I think that it's cool that I don't know how this works really or where it's advertised or something. thing, but I think it's cool that when stadiums go, everyone rooting for this team is sitting here.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Yes. And again, I don't know how that happens. Like, aren't they just buying tickets? They go online and go, I would like to buy a ticket. It's similar to that thing that happened recently. It's the, like, when you buy online, it puts in your, like, your credit card information shows your address, if you will. So if you have, like, the Bank of Bosnia, they a little. Truly.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And it does it with, like, out of time. town fans. Like if you're trying to buy tickets to a game at Fenway and like you have a New York zip. And it's like here are the tickets that are available to you. But I think well dude Ted Lassow explains it.
Starting point is 00:02:17 In season one when Rebecca is still anti-richment. Yeah. And anti-Tet. And a little bit anti-Tead. Higgins is like, hey, we haven't sold out all of our tickets for the final game of the year against Man City. She's like, release them to the away fans. And he's like, city fans will scoop those up.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It'll be a sea of sky blue in our sand. She's like, good. And he's like, dude, fuck off. Like, no, we don't need away fans in here. So, like, you can literally, in your systems, release fans to away fans. So there's tickets to away fans. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Because I would like to, I might make this a passion. I think it's so cool. Did you see the overhead shot in the Norway game of the Norway row? And it's, it's, I mean, you're literally, looking at the Norway section and it's a full on wave of red jerseys and they're all doing the road together
Starting point is 00:03:07 and it's you know it's how you when you go to LafC games it's unbelievable that I'm using LAFC as an example for this but there is like the super fan section like you know it's it's I think it's awesome we should definitely too I know this is pretty common take but we should be
Starting point is 00:03:22 singing more oh brother it is if there is one thing that we need to take from international soccer. It is the songs. And it's so cool. When you buy, I mean, you know this.
Starting point is 00:03:38 When you buy new players and you are a fan of a club team, the super fans start writing songs for the new players. And there's like new themes every year and it's just fucking amazing. Because we not only were, or this isn't a not only but also situation.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But I'll say these two things. We, as in the U.S. fans, don't sing at all. at this particular game I was at. There was the occasional smattering of a USA chant. That was it. There was no,
Starting point is 00:04:07 you know, constant hype. I know it's a lot. It's a lot of work. But you got to coordinate, right? Yeah. It's like,
Starting point is 00:04:13 you've got to know what you're going to do. Yeah. And this was a fun wrinkle, or a funny wrinkle more than it was fun. When you go to, when you go to a Premier League game, for example, and even if you despise the other team,
Starting point is 00:04:28 and all their fans are singing songs, funny your guy that's my guy it's still funny and fun because I can understand them I they're singing in English and I'm like that's a cool song that was a clever song yeah going to international World Cup kids is funny because the Bosnia fans were beasts and their section was epic and they were fucking jumping and singing the whole time but they were just singing stuff that I have literally no idea what they were saying obviously because it's in another language and I was like I bet that song's awesome yeah I bet something real
Starting point is 00:04:59 funny's being said for sure but you just have no clue you just said this international game like it sounds sick yeah you just kind of go yeah all right cool this thing one back talking shit about yeah yeah like yeah like yeah it's so cool god i love it i love it i love this tournament so much it's so freaking fun we fucking beat their ass too we did oh my god dude they it was crazy they didn't even touch a ball yeah but they're a great team ed and jekko electric. Dude, did he tears Achilles? I hope not. Because we're, you know, dude, you get zero point zero information at the at soccer. I know. No replays, no, like, here's what happened. Like when, when, uh, Ballot took the red,
Starting point is 00:05:46 the ref was like this. Red card. We were like, what? You guys were texting me, uh, when we go back on hold the phone, I'm going to, uh, sit and pout that I didn't get to go. But you were being like, what happened? And I was just like, oh, yeah, you guys are. seeing anything you're not getting any replays you're not getting any information that is tough but it's also like you're in the fight yep you know you're obviously on the pitch but i just saw him immediately kind of grabbed that his lower leg yeah and then in the 49th minute and be like sub i was like oh no let's let's talk about that red card okay it was a red card uh i disagree it was a red card it's it's and here's the thing that sucks i think my issue my
Starting point is 00:06:29 My larger issue is the rule because there are a couple of ways for a red card. One, if there is momentum and action that has a intent to harm or malicious intent or anything like that, a straight red. Yep. If also, it is a straight red if you do a play regardless of intent that puts a player in danger. That play did do that. I mean, if you look at the freeze frame, it is studs up along the back of his leg, rakes down, and stomps his ankle. Like that, there is a freeze frame where his ankle is fucking, we got a 90-degree ankle. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So it's like that is the situation where you look at that. And I'm like, it's a red car, dude. And the way I kept looking at it is if I were a Bosnian fan, I would be screamed. I'd be like, that is a fucking, you're down one, nothing, you're playing a better opponent. Like, you need that. The one thing I think sucks and is dumb about the. rule and this is like Rebecca Lowe talked about this after the game it's like you you have to be able to implement common sense as the VAR officials and be like dude don't give him a red there
Starting point is 00:07:41 because now he misses next game and that is clearly not an offense that deserves to miss next game that's where the rule needs to change with like I genuinely if they were like this is a red card and he sent off for this match but he's not missing that match I would have gone like this that is a hundred that is totally fair it's exactly the result that should happen because it does suck if you go, I'm putting in common sense here and going, this is not malicious enough for having to have to miss next game. So no red card. It's just a yellow card.
Starting point is 00:08:09 You then have the other side being like this, but that offense should make him remove from this game, which is also true. Yep. It's just a brutal situation. Yeah, I think that the easy solve is the rarely do I think the NBA get something right, but it's flagrant one, flagrant two. Like that is a flagrant one red card.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You are out the rest of this game and that's it. Like in two red card is you're out the rest of this game. I completely agree. That's what it should be. So that's what it should be. I also will slightly push back on this isn't what happened, but I think if I went like this, if I was running backwards to get back in the play and then as I took my next backwards running step,
Starting point is 00:08:46 someone on Bosnia was stepping behind me and I raked down to the back of his leg and then his ankle went to a 90-degree angle, I would go, that is not a red card because I'm like, I don't even see you there. And I think people are like, it is. His ankles in danger.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I said that's not what happened. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. There's a version of that exact injury happens that is not a red card. Can we agree on that? Like, there's a way, there's a horrible red card, and there's a version where exactly that thing happens to someone's leg and it's not a red card. No, no, no, don't laugh at me.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But like, you are saying a play where someone's literally running backwards and you completely... Forget my example. Okay. That act. That we just saw. Nope. A foot going down the back of someone's leg and then snapping his ankle into 90 degrees.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah. There's a sliding scale of how that happened to that player. One of them is someone came flying in like this. Yep. And tried to kill them. Absolutely true. And one of them is it was a literal complete accident. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 This version of the accident isn't a red card in my opinion. I think some people go, yes, it is. It does not matter how or why it happens. No, no, no. I think anyone who would disagree with that is just like totally wrong. So there's a scale in here. And in my opinion, that act was still on the scale of like, there was literally no intent to land it.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And it's like he's falling off balance. His foot is just coming down so he doesn't fall into a split. Sure. It happens to land on someone's leg. Sure. That's what I think happened. Yeah. I think it was a little too.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Flo was facing the play. He made an active, like he was trying to make a tackle on the ball at first. And then I think he just gets knocked out of the way. Now he's just landing. Like he has no idea where that puts coming down. but I think that the rule book would argue that like you've got to be in control of your body. Because he does make a move and then he gets a little out of control. Either way, it sucks.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's awful. He should not be missing the next match. And frankly, I'm going to need government officials to get involved. Agreed. Like, we can't appeal it, but I'm like, maybe we can do. How about this? Maybe we can. Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Maybe we go to every manager of every nation in the World Cup and go, what do you guys think about? this. Should he have to miss next match? And I bet, dude, I bet the Bosnian manager would also go, no, he should not. If it's a unanimous, every manager in the World Cup goes like this, no, he should not mix the next match. And let him back in. What about, would you respect if the Belgian manager went like this, let him play? Dude, and not only would I respect it, I would fucking stand and salute him. I would be like, you're a hero. At then one time, we were, when we were in college, we would go to the beach, you know, all
Starting point is 00:11:28 This is, I, how did I fucking know you were going to tell this story? And we, there was a group of, we were like 20-something, I guess, and there was a group of young kids that were just like us, 10, 15 years ago, you know, that would just rip the same beach. Right. And we would always be there, and they'd be with their parents and we'd be hanging out. And then at some point during the day, like, one of the kids, you always come up to say, you guys want to play football or soccer or whatever, we'd be like, hell yeah. We would just play, and it would be so fun. And their parents always like, thank you so much. And I was like, all pleasure, but.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Like, this is amazing. And they always wanted to do them versus us. So it's like 10, 10, 10, 20 year olds. Right. In 22-year-olds in football. You know? So we would just, like, play to make it fun, you know? You'd beat the shit out of them.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah. And there was one day where they, we would draw lines. And this one kid threw a pass 10, 15 yards out of bounds. And since I knew it was so far out of bounds, I ran over and picked it off. And I pretended to like toe tap. And I was like, that's a pick. I'm in bounds. Just because I wanted to rile them up.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. And the kids are immediately like, you're 20 yards out of bound. Like everyone's screaming. It's great. And I do the quick mental math to count numbers. And I realize there's six of us and seven of them. So I go, okay, fine. We're doing a vote.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Everybody hands up right now if you think that was in balance. And I look at all my boys and we all raise our hand. And one little kid goes, oh. And I was like, oh, no. It's unbelievable. Just swung. Wow. I was like,
Starting point is 00:12:59 I was like, oh dude, that came wanted to be your friend so bad. Yeah, so bad. So bad. He was just, he was a man of honor.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And, but it was like, but you're wrong. Dude, I was like three parking lots out of bounds. You know, he was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:11 I think he was in. That's like, oh, buddy. That's cute. It was amazing. It was absolutely crazy. All right, folks,
Starting point is 00:13:17 we got some fun topics today. As we've told you, Thursday Epps now, especially during the summer, it's going to be a little more free, free flowing, a little more fun, doing some random stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:27 obviously tons has happened in the NHO with trades for agency we're going to speed round through all that hitting on all the major topics don't worry it's going to be plenty of hockey talk we're getting into a new segment on netters called fraud watch and top hits that's going to be an absolute blast we got a blind
Starting point is 00:13:43 ranking some other fun stuff I do have one thing for you guys I want to talk about before we jump into all the crazy signs you've seen the news of this earthquake in Venezuela no I have, yeah. It's sad.
Starting point is 00:14:00 A lot of people passed away. Yeah, horrible earthquake in Venezuela. A lot of people have passed away. A lot of people are missing. Still missing. So everyone remember this is a fun, comedy, lighthearted show. We are not making light of that situation whatsoever. It's tragic.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And we hope everyone who is missing is returned safely. Yeah, it's awful. I did get me thinking this is a topic that is completely separate from the earthquake. Okay? Let's make that clear. But inspired by. Inspired is a thought that it was inspired Let's say something happened
Starting point is 00:14:33 Let's say there was a Like a blackout Like an EMP went off and all the electricity Went dead like all the movies in the 90s Said what happened Let's say you guys were like on a trip And an EMP thing happened There's a blackout
Starting point is 00:14:50 And there was a situation where some people Weren't accounted for And you you saw Like your phone is off Yeah credit cards aren't working but then things come back online and you see Chris Powers, Dr. Evan Watkins, missing. Would you like, would you milk it for a couple days? Stay off grid?
Starting point is 00:15:14 Stay off grid. Absolutely. I mean, think about it. My point being in today's day and age and this, where we live, it's pretty hard to get off grid. Fuller. Extremely hard. And all of a sudden, you had an excuse where you were safe, you knew you were safe. And let's say, let's remove,
Starting point is 00:15:36 I was going to say, let's go with a world where you have a fiancé, you have a lovely wife. We have families that care about us and friends that care about us. So now that I'm thinking about it, it would be awful because all of those people would be missing you. And they'd be so worried. And I was about to institute a, what if you were just a drifter and you had no one who was worried about you? Because then I'm like, well, what's the fucking difference? Your entire life is off the grid already, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:02 So let's keep it. Let's keep that moral conundrum in there. Would you maybe take like a day and just stay off grid? Okay, well, that is, I wish you hadn't brought that up because one of our really good friends, Ev, was doing a study abroad thing or whatever. It was actually like over the winter or maybe summer. I think it was winter. Yeah, in Haiti, in Port-au-Prince when that earthquake hit.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Which was like one of the biggest earthquakes fucking effort. Dude, it was crazy. And we could, no one could get a hold of him. And I was like, yo. And then legitimately like a day went by. And then we got an email. I think it was way longer than that, too. No, because that would be crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I know, but like I think we're probably exaggerating it in my mind. The way I remember it was at least two days. Maybe it was, because it was, I remember checking in constantly, being like, have we heard from him? Have we heard from him? So like two days go by and we get an email from like a rogue email address to, his mom, me, Dan, you know, just a big chunk of people that was like, hey, it's Andrew, I'm okay. Like everything, there's no, everything's down.
Starting point is 00:17:07 There's no sale, no, like, you will not hear from me again for two days, but I am alive. Oh my God. It was, uh, it was a Facebook message or post or something. We were like, Facebook. Yeah. But it was like, yeah, he eventually said. That's a smart way to blast it to everybody that kind of matter. Yeah, he eventually got to some area that had a computer.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And it was like a line. And it was like, you can use this computer to do what you will. And he was like, I think. Facebook. Now I'm thinking like the modern version. Put a couple bets. Yeah. The modern version of that is like, okay, I got to get it on Instagram and do a story real quick.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah, yeah. Just so everybody knows I'm okay. I'm good. Smash that like button. I'm alive. Yeah, just listen, it got me thinking that getting off grid is hard these days. And if all of a sudden I woke up and someone was like, Dan Powers is missing and I knew I was fine. I'll give you, I'll give you a caveat for me.
Starting point is 00:17:53 It's like if I could, if, if nobody in my extended family, like my, Because a lot of my family lives on the other side of the country. So my mom would be worried. But if she wasn't aware of like any kind of disaster, like, let's say there, let's say like she goes to bed and doesn't look at the TV for two days. Yep. And doesn't know that there's like a horrible disaster in California that could be, could worry her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 As long as my wife knew or maybe my, I was with my wife and we were both in the same silo. Yeah. I'd be fine. I'd totally be fine to like take two days and be like, nobody knows where we are. Dude, do you think that what do I have access to while missing, Dan? It's true. Is it boring? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah, well, that's what I was. If I'm just literally hiding, then I would be like, I'm here. Take me back. Yeah. But if you were like, dude, you have your, you have books, you have your laptop, you have internet, maybe some video games. Yeah. I might be missing still. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Can we be missing at home? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's like you see it would be like if your phone works, then you're not up grid. If you lost your phone. Yeah, no, I didn't say phone. Well, no, I'm just thinking out loud.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I just want, I want entertainment. Okay, what if you, what if you go to a cabin? Let's say you go to a cabin like up in Big Bear and it gets completely dumped with snow. Yeah. And the power goes. The power goes out. No cell service. No cell service.
Starting point is 00:19:28 No. internet. But you got a bunch of DVDs. Yeah, you got DVDs and board games. And water, running water? Yeah, you got water. You got food. So, like, you're not going to die, but you might not have all the, you know, amenities
Starting point is 00:19:39 of modern day living. Well, like, what do you do? When we go to the lake house, there's no service there. Yeah, yeah, no, but no power is what's throwing me because then I can't even watch the fucking DVDs. But you got, but let's say we have power. Yeah, you got wood. Wi-Fi goes out.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah. There's full power. We still have DVDs. Still have cable. What if you got a generator? What if you got a generator? and it's good for like four hours a day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 You got enough gas for like a couple. Then dude, forever. Like literally. Loved ones be damned. Yeah, literally. You will show back up in a month. Yeah. And be like this, I was fine.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I was having a blast. I think Chris is going to be a hermit later in life. One of my dreams. I mean, Chris barely responds to Texas anyway. Yeah, great. We don't know if he's living or dead all the time. One of my life's dreams was to get on a milk carton someday. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And that would be so sick. I know that's deranged, but I remember being a little kid being like, I want to be on a milk cart. And you see that and you go like this. I'm fine. I'm right here. It was a crazy story. They don't do that anymore, do that? No, but I worked on a, we didn't end up buying it, but I worked on a dock called the milk carton kids that were a group of people who are adults now, but who were all on milk cartons and saved because of it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. And it was like kind of cool, true crime stories of like. All three of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. How many really were there, I wonder. A great question. How many ever? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Great question. Dude, there's actually some fascinating shit because I also worked on to talk about Amber alerts, which was about a girl actually named Amber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that type of stuff, like getting information out was, it's so funny how little we did that before. You know, like, people go missing and they'd be like, that stuff. You know what fucking creeps the shit out of me when it's like 1130 at night or like late and you're sitting around, you're kind of vibe in?
Starting point is 00:21:25 and then your phone just goes, and it's like a fucking Amber Alert, and you're like, Jesus Christ, you scared the shit out of me. So crazy. Oh, I hate that. Amber alerts are so intense. It's also scary when you're with,
Starting point is 00:21:38 this happens at work a lot, when you're standing next to 20 people, because it all happens to the same time. Yeah, and you're like, it's pretty pretty creepy. It's like the perj siren. Yeah, yeah. So good.
Starting point is 00:21:49 All right, let's jump into some hockey news. I know there's a lot going on. I think we've got to start, With the Florida Panthers. And I think I'd like to do this this way. Okay. I was driving for 15 hours yesterday and at a World Cup game, and everything was happening all around me, and I had no idea what was going on.
Starting point is 00:22:11 So you are going to... I'm going to tell you everything. Break these news to me and then I'm just going to knee-jerk react to everything. That's fantastic. All right, starting with the Florida Panthers. Also, folks, this episode is coming up Friday. I know you're used to episodes coming out on Thursday, but we waited because obviously the big day was Thursday.
Starting point is 00:22:32 So we're going all the way back to Tuesday. You know, there's shit that has happened. Number one, we have a new goaltender in Florida. The Panthers are up to their old tricks, man. They went out and they signed Radco Gudis to a long-term deal. crazy one crazy one for the Panthers Goudis
Starting point is 00:22:56 What was his number? They traded for his rights I think he was playing at six He's under contract Well they traded for his rights from the ducks And They got him back And they signed him to a five year
Starting point is 00:23:08 $1.5 million dollar deal And Go ahead Goethe is 36 So like this is another marshy deal It's like they're going to be paying him Until he's fucking 41 years old But 1.5
Starting point is 00:23:18 Who cares? They also And this one is gone under the radar. They signed a re-signed A2 Luster-Rinan to a five-year or excuse me eight year by
Starting point is 00:23:30 five. That's one of the best contracts in the game. Yes. Like Luster Rinen is so good, he's 27 years old and $5 million cap hit for what he does is fucking unbelievable. And now him and Lundell are together forever and it's just fucking remarkable. But then they make a trade with Jersey.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Make a trade with Jersey. Make a trade with Jersey and they send Evan Rodriguez, Yesper Bobquist, Ben Steves to Jersey, and they get Jacob Markstrom back. Jacob Markstrom, two years left at $6 million. They also get Angus Cruxshank back, which is, I think, pretty sick that Harry Potter characters are in the NHL. Mr. Crookshank. Angus Crookshank. Angus Coochshank. Shout out binge mode on the ringer, Mallory, Rubin, Jason, Deception. Legend. They do these deep dive pods, and they do Potter. And they said early, and I'm sure many people have said this before, but this is the first I've ever heard it.
Starting point is 00:24:31 They would constantly credit J.K. Rowling for being the best namer in fantasy writing. And Potter's my favorite series, and I was like, oh, wow, good call. And now that I have read 8 billion fantasy series, I could not emphasize that fact enough. It's on how good she is at naming. It's amazing how many great fantasy books that I read that every new name I hear I go, can you just please? Just fuck off. Do a little better.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah. These names are horrendous. Oh, Dune, Duncan Idaho? Dude, I gave up on that one. Not going to lie. Duncan Idaho. I kind of love that name. But it doesn't, it's fucking Dune.
Starting point is 00:25:11 It is ridiculous. Idaho. It is ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Are you kidding me? Paul. But At Trades is a great name. Yeah, but why Paul?
Starting point is 00:25:18 I don't know. Yeah, like Leto Atradis as a son named Paul. I'm like, oh, yeah. So, yeah, the names are either boring or unpronounceable and stupid. I almost wanted to do this in this episode, but the more I thought about it with, especially some of the Russian players, there are a lot of Harry Potter names in the NHL. Oh, that's funny. And we're going to do that.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Okay. Probably next week. But Marky goes to the Panthers. So that is a big thing to note. That's all the Panthers moves. I love every single move. But let's talk about the Marksum thing now, which will jump us to the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Okay. Well, can I knee-jerk to everything? Sure. The Panthers, Goudis is great because the Panthers just want to wear you down. They're paying him nothing, and, like, he will be a bottom pairing and he'll wear you down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And he's, we know it works there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. E2, great. The Panthers. and this will perfectly go to the Leafs. I heard some stuff that the numbers that were getting thrown around with Bob and it was just pissing Zito off, and then they countered with a number
Starting point is 00:26:31 that maybe even is what he took in Toronto. I can't remember. Again, I have a lot of information on that. Okay. And he felt suspected. I will tell you this. The Florida Panthers, I think, likely lost themselves the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Interesting. Which was free. Interesting. Like the Stanley Cup was over, and we were jumping ahead to the 28th season. Okay. And then because they were annoyed, or based on pride, they've now lost the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Okay. There would be new information for you. The Panthers also brought in, shout out, Garnie, by the way. Oh, yeah. The Hathaway sign there, but they brought Lars Eller, Sam Lafferty, Johnny Beecher,
Starting point is 00:27:17 that men deals. So, like, they, they loaded up on the depth and all this. And, like, mean depth. It's so funny that they're like, yeah, we're going to beat the fucking wheels off you. And it's just like, it's another one of those things, like, 37-year-old Lars Eller. I look at the team that he will now be playing with. And I'm like, you're probably going to have a great year. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:37 We're going to jump to the Toronto Maple Leafs, and we'll get into all of their other moves, of which I, I've got a couple of these for Toronto. And we'll, we'll get into it. Okay. But the Maple Leaf signed Sergey Bobrovsky to a three-year deal by $7 million. My knee-jerk reaction and something that I posted yesterday was what happened? Because I believe Bob is 37 turning 38 and he signs a 3x7 in Toronto. They traded for Jacob Markstrom, who is 36 turning 37, who's making, we'll call it 2 by 6,
Starting point is 00:28:14 because he's got two years left. And I'm like, one year, $1 million difference, you guys couldn't get over that for Bob to bring Bob back, the goalie who has brought you to three straight Stanley Cups and won two. I don't believe it. But what we have learned, according to sources, the Panthers offered Bob a four-year by $6 million contract as well as a three-by-seven.
Starting point is 00:28:40 So they offered him the exact same deal. Yep. neither was acceptable to Bob's camp, so Zito decided to move on and, again, according to sources, called his block. Yep. What I believe two things. And this is what we always say. When there is a successful team who had a successful player and has the money to keep said player, when they willingly let them go, I am always like, they know something we don't.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Or they just believe something that maybe not everyone else, they're like, we don't need you. I don't believe that happened What my this is not a source This is not this is just my feelings I think That Bob's agents fucked him I think Bob's agents went like they offered that And I think Bob's agents went
Starting point is 00:29:30 Sergey we are going to get Way more than this from other times Way fucking more They are fucking you They're trying to call the bluff They're going to sit and they're going to wait And they're going to realize they have to pay up and they will pay up or we'll get it elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And Bob went, yeah, you're right. And then Zito went like this. I can't wait. We have a Stanley Cup team here and I need a fucking goalie. And he made a trade for Markstrom. And then I think Bob's camp was like, oh, fuck me. They just made a move for a goalie. And then they went and looked around.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And the only offer they got was exactly what they got for Florida. This to me is a, what I assume is right now Bob is going, are you fucking kidding me, dude? Like when that information comes out that this offer was offered by Florida, we said no because you promised me we could get more. And now I can't get more. And now I'm 38 years old going up to Toronto Media. Thanks a lot, dickhead. That is what I believe happen.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Okay. And dude, I will tell you after I don't want to say who on here. And I wish I should have saved a fucking voice member. I just like listen to it and then it disappears. But so what I was told is. minus the agent thing a lot what you're saying but it was basically like
Starting point is 00:30:45 Bob wanted six by six and it was just pinging back and forth and then Florida not low I mean I guess low ball but yes but not in a mean way in my opinion they were just like bro three by seven is I'm like
Starting point is 00:31:01 you know before that okay because I'm like I'm fucking blown away that he's getting offered that and frankly I will get into it but like I'm looking at the fucking Zuccarello deal I'm looking at the Oveckin deal. And I'm like, are you crazy, pal?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yep. So you're in Florida. Just take one. The offer came in that was low. They said, no, they're going back and forth. And then Florida came up to three by seven being like, hey, okay, take this. And then it was, they said Bob. I'm sure it was more like Bob's camp.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yeah. Was quote unquote, disrespected by that offer. So said, it's crazy. Fuck you. And then I kind of buy everything that you just said. And dude, I, I, I, I. I just I guess this is overreaction season
Starting point is 00:31:44 bucket I was going to be like I don't mean to overreaction in July but dude overreact I just cannot fathom this from either party this is your classic lose lose because dude think about how fucking good the Florida Panthers have been
Starting point is 00:31:59 minus last year they do not win either of those cups without incredible Mabroski performance like think about that team. We, in a vet MGM post, we said the 25 Panthers are the best team in the last 20 years. Correct. They lose the cup without Bobrowski. And dude, I'm as guilty of this as anybody,
Starting point is 00:32:21 but the Kemper thing, like in Colorado, he was fucking great in Colorado. So it's not like you can do this. Carter Hart fell apart. And Brandon Bussie was incredible down the stretch. If Freddie Anderson stayed in and who kept being leaky, they probably would have lost. Like these good teams Incredible roster builds lose if you don't have this guy. He's obviously getting older. Who knows what's going to happen? How good he'll stay. But to have the roster that the Panthers have,
Starting point is 00:32:49 and dude, I fucking love Jacob Markstrom, the person, and I thought he was going to win cups in Jersey. That went not well. And I think he's a good goal. And at times has played well enough that I believe he has a proof of concept
Starting point is 00:33:03 that I'm like, if you do this during the playoffs, you could win a cup with this team. But what a dice roll when I'm like, How in fuck could you have not just gone, well, wait, wait, everybody calmed out. Like, why didn't someone walk in between the Bob and the Panthers yelling and got, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop. Stop.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I know you're upset and I'm low boggy, blah, blah, blah, blah. What do you need to you to live in fucking Miami and just win a cup instead of going moving to Toronto in your 40s as a Russian? Like, I literally have no idea what's happening here. This might be the craziest thing, the offseason thing I've ever seen for it. It's like, what cut your nose off despite your face? That's the expression, right? Like, this is fucking mental, dude. Dude, it is, these are the times where I'm like, agents are a problem.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Because I believe if there was just a simple conversation between two human beings, like Sergey Barowski and Bill Zito, they would have figured this out. I have to believe that. And again, this is all speculation, allegedly, but that is very much what I believe happened. And I can't believe they let that happen. Save it. Because I just think it is nonsense. Now, Markstrom is coming off a bad year in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Bob is coming off a really bad year in Florida. But I'm always like, I chalk those up to nothing burgers because Bob, I mean, man, we saw it in week two of the NHL season with Sasha out and Kach out. It was like the Panthers aren't making the playoffs this year. And I think a 37-year-old Bob is probably like this, and I'm shutting it down. Yeah. why gas yourself in that season when you know you're not going anywhere? So your numbers are going to be poor. I look at Markstrom, and I think that is a great goaltender.
Starting point is 00:34:47 It's actually kind of a homecoming for him. He was once with the Panthers. Yeah, very cool. I also think him playing in front of this team, no disrespect to the devils, I foresee him having a much better season playing in front of this team. So it's like, I think it's a little drastic what you were saying of like they had a cup and now they don't because Markstrom is that. I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I think easily Markstrom could be like this. I'm playing in front of this Panthers team now and I'm nasty. We'll see. But to me, the story here is just like, this is crazy town that you have to let this happen. And we don't have to dig this too hard, but I love it for the Leafs. And, dude, the Leafs obviously had a fucking shit show last year. But people forget two years ago, I was really high on them. They win the fucking division.
Starting point is 00:35:38 They take the Panthers to seven in the second round, which was Gaze seven, in my opinion. Still, though. Like, they took the Panthers to seven. They literally did do it. They took the Panthers. That Panthers team played them tougher than any team in the playoffs and were okay. And now you go, you got Gavin McKenna and you have Bob. I'm like, dude, the Leafs could be awesome next year and nothing would make me happier than, because,
Starting point is 00:36:04 Because, man, that goalie situation, I have felt like the Leafs have had pretty good goalies on paper that have just never played that well in playoffs especially. And even that year, don't forget, because it was still ours, right, that was playing, then got hit by Bennett, and then Joe Wall went in. That kind of felt like the swing where the goalie play dropped a little bit and then they lost. And I'm like, dude, if they get playoff-Blofsky, you're telling me the Leafs can't make a legitimate run, they can't. I just told you. I started this by saying I gave the Leafs this. and, you know, I, I, I, it's been a fucking circus this summer with the Luce, with Chica and everything going on. They get the first overall pick.
Starting point is 00:36:45 That's amazing. Yes, dude. For me, Bob is, I mean, it's the best gold tending they've had in, in 10 years. Yeah. But the thing we always forget is Bob wins a couple of Vezna's, goes to Florida, and completely stops. playing. Yeah. Then, in the fucking dark of night, he, no pun intended, swaps places with Spencer
Starting point is 00:37:12 Knight and beats the Boston Bruins and then go straight to the cup. Yeah. And then becomes... Wasn't it lying? I think it was lying. Great call. But Spencer Knight was on the guy. He should have a guy.
Starting point is 00:37:21 He was like, I think that's how he was out. You're right. Good call. Swaps places and then goes to three straight cups. Yeah. Bob is about to be 38. I believe in Bob. I believe in Bob.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You don't know his real age. Yeah, correct. So this is the crazy thing. You could literally say this about any team in preseason, any team. So Leaves fans don't jump down my throat. There are just, there are so many, when I look at the Leaves team on paper, I'm like, this team can go to the cup for sure. But again, it's just, it's the on paper thing. And I do think that there are a lot of question marks.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Like, if we get halfway through the season and Bob has like an 8-8-8-9 save percentage, are you going to be shocked? To be honest. No, but I... Done. That's all I want for me. Because I don't care about regular season with it. Like, I still think he could then have a 9-5 in playoffs. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Okay, fine. To round out the Leafs, they sign Colton Sizzins to a 2x4.25. We're seeing fourth-line players getting, like, bags now. Shout out, Jeff Beale. Dude. And don't you ever fucking call him a fourth-line player. Why, he's the best fourth-line player in the league. He is, he is.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Jeffiel is fucking a legend. They signed Teddy Bluger to a two by two point five. They also make a trade for Nick Paul, which is awesome. The Leafs did a lot. They got Bob and Net, and Leafs fans are going, and here's the other thing that's crazy. The Leafs are still, they are currently over the cap just by a smidge. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:03 But they're still talking about. talking about trading Morgan Riley. They're still talking about trading Matthew Nyes. I don't know what the deal is there, but people look at their top nine, we'll call it. And we see any combination of, oh, also Jack Roslick. Did I say that? They got Jack Roslick as well, which I kind of, the way he's like bounced around when I'm like, this guy can score. Like he did pretty well in Edmonton. They signed him to do a two by four. So the leaps are now over the cap, just barely, and they're looking at a top nine of any combination of Nyes, Austin Matthews, Roselvic, Gavin McKenna,
Starting point is 00:39:36 Tavares, Nielander, Dakota Joshua, Nick Paul, Easton, a lot of people are looking at that going, that competes with any team in the league. That is better than a bunch of teams in the league. I look at the Panthers top nine, and I'm like, no, that does not really compare. I would maybe even look at Carolina's top nine and go, that doesn't compare.
Starting point is 00:39:54 But it is really good if Gavin McKenna has a McElabrini rookie. a Connor Badaard will be here. It also requires Easton Cowan taking a huge jump. Like, I love that player. Yep. But Easton Cowan needs to, like, let's check this out for the purposes of the argument. Easton Cowan last year, 66 games, 29 points, 11 goals. I love that from the bar.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Like, you know, that's like his first really dip into the league. He had, let's call it, 30 points in 66, 70 games. If the Leafs want to be what everyone's talking about, that 30 points needs to jump to 55, 60 points. I believe it can happen. Me too. I really, really do. If this is what, remember when I did this with Edmonton when they brought in fucking, they brought in Roslivik, they brought in Henrique, they brought in all these guys. And I was like, if.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah, yeah. And then the if did not happen. So that is the, in my opinion, that is the only thing holding this Leafs team back. and I gave them two thumbs up on all these moves. I love the Brovsky move. It's like risky, but because now you're paying a goalie $7 million with a no-move clause for three years, who is 38, it's risky, but it's Bob.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah. And if he's Bob, you have won. So it's worth the risk. And to me, all of these moves, if you want to say sums at overpayment, sum is risky, whatever, whatever, it's the moves that you had to make. The biggest thing for me, dude,
Starting point is 00:41:30 and we saw it at the draft, The fact that you managed to convince Austin Matthews to stay, that is the biggest one. I was certain he was gone. Certain. Same. And he's still there. So I'm like, dude, it was risky to bring in Chica. It was risky to sign Bob.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It was risky to sign maybe some of these older guys or some of these fourth line guys to big contracts. But I'm like, every risk is worth it. Toronto. Dude, the Leafs are back. Leafs year. Dude, the Chica redemption arc. is made ice town in Arizona. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:42:05 It's Arizona. And now he's going to get a fucking statue in Toronto when he brings them a couple. Okay. Going to keep sticking and moving here. Bowen Byram was traded to the Blackhawks. Signs a deal. Six years, $12.5 million. Bowen Byram is now the highest paid demon in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Thoughts. Dude. And also, I want to jump in and say, like, I tweeted that and people were like this for what? Like a couple months. And I'm like, it doesn't matter to me. Yeah. We always talk about like that time and shit. Who's about to do it?
Starting point is 00:42:32 take it well we there's rumors of like a three-year extension for Quinn Hughes in Minnesota that will definitely be higher when Kale signs his extension it will be higher but either way it does that does not matter to me the timing does not matter to me the facts of the matter are if you are ever yeah the highest paid defensemen forward in the NHL that automatically means regardless of timing you are now in the top X percentage of defensemen in the league and in this case you are now like you better be at least a top 10 defenseman in the moon. And I, we love Bowen Byron.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yes, dude, he is the fucking man. I more just want to talk about the Blackhawks with this move. Ridiculous, ridiculous contract in my opinion. And dude, I'm happy for him because he's the man and I hope he, I wish they'd paid him $20 million so he can get as rich as humanly possible. Dude, under no circumstances, under no circumstances timing wise, is Bowen Byram ever the highest paid defenseman in the league. Dude, what I love about this is agent of the year.
Starting point is 00:43:31 year. Yeah, correct. Because you know what is sick? Chicago has fucking $30 million in cap space still. What do you? Yes. Like we're looking at the sharks, which we'll get into. Everyone's talking about the floor, the floor, this is why they're doing this. The sharks right now have 14 million cap space. The Blackhawks have double. So it's another one of those situations where I'm like, Chicago, what are we doing here? Like, let's get some fucking deals going out. They need to hit the floor. This is definitely a huge part of that. But that's why I'm like agent of the year to get him traded to Chicago knowing they need to hit the floor knowing that you need to sign a contract and you are a young really talented player you are going to get a fucking bag and what's so
Starting point is 00:44:10 funny about this now too is it's just like these things always reset the bar yes so like so many defensemen that are signing a deal now they're like this will bowen makes 12.5 and you're like yeah and you're like dude obviously like that is ridiculous but they know I don't care I'm as good I'm a 40 point defenseman like yeah What the fuck? Ridiculous contracted. And I'm like, I just cannot believe that.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I fucking absolutely love it. Okay, next up, let's go to quickly for Evan. Yes. Penguins. We had a Caden Corsack and Parker Wotherspoon flip. 50% retained. And there was a period where the Knights had 8.8 million cap space.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And I was like, Dylan Markins' cap is 8.7. Yeah. But then the big. Golden Knights did some things that we'll talk about. You guys signed Kuzmenko, one by five. Sad to see Kuzi Go. Me too. But love that move for the Penguins.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I'm excited as a Penguins fan. Okay. Jumping. I'm also fired up for Parker. I was texting him after and I was like, let's fucking go. Dude. And he was like, man, I'm Vegas. Vegas's spot.
Starting point is 00:45:20 He had an awesome year. You guys were pretty bummed up to lose Parker. Yeah, yeah. He was, we had more depth scoring than we thought we would have when the season started. And he was a big reason for that, him and Mantha. So it's a bummer to see him going. I hope that we can fill that gap. But good for him.
Starting point is 00:45:38 He earned it. All right. Now let's get into the Edmonton Oilers. They bring Babcock in. Crazy shit going on with the Oilers. There's big, big news there that we all say for the last part. But they re-sign capon into a 1 by 2.6. Bring it our boy, Matthew Joseph, one-by-one.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Love that. They grab Ryan Shea, five years by 4 million. And then they signed Freddie Anderson. One by one, which I said. We talked about that. We talked about Freddie to the... He doesn't retire and he always don't get him. That would be lunacy.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And they did it. So now we are definitely looking at a Freddie Anderson and Tristan Jari will tandem, just the way Freddie and Bussie tandem this year. The big, big question, I think I am now fully on your prediction a while ago of they are going to go wire to wire and win the Pacific. Yes. And I 100% think they're going to do that. the massive now question is
Starting point is 00:46:33 a year older Freddy in the playoffs, how far can you take him before you go? We have to go to Jari now. And what will happen? And dude, I will tell you exactly what's going to happen. They will start with Freddie. He will have an incredible first round. If they are not fucking morons, they will pull him, even if he's playing great.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Even if they first round sweep, they will pull him in the second round. They will survive the second round with Jari, maybe into the Western Conference Finals, then go back to Freddie. and then I don't quite know who is winning the cup between the Oilers and the Leafs, but that seven gamer is going to be incredible because those are the two best teams by Miles. Yep.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And Oilers, and dude, strap in the world. I would love to see Matthews versus the game. Strap in hockey world because it is Oilers, Leaves in the Cup, and clip this, and then I can dance on your grave. You want to dance on, you're clipping this to dance on my grave next year. I dance on your grave. Oilers, Leaves, God, does Canada need that? Yep.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I mean, fucking I do. Especially after last year's Olympics. Yep. Or this year's. And they got Devon Levi, too. We believe in Devon Levi. I do.
Starting point is 00:47:39 But it's just great stuff. But the big one is, the Oilers did it, dude. They did it. They did it, and they found a sucker. That's me. It's the truth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They found a sucker.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yep. They found a sucker. Darnel nurse. is a very good hockey player and an exceptional human being. And unfortunately, was just on a contract that was bigger than his output in Edmonton and was the subject to a lot of ridicule from Edmonton fans for way too long. And he needed a change. But the big thing was there is no one that is going to take this full contract for nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Well, it turns out that Mike Greer did that for them. In their own division, a team on the rise against the team trending down. Yeah, who they're going to. As the Oilers players admitted, they're like, we are going backwards. The Mike Greer decided to go, I'll take that full contract. The Oilers got Macama Doolin back, who's an RFA. He'll be signing a deal. But all 9.5 million of that contract is now in San Jose.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And I actually think, I think Nurse is going, or 9.25, sorry. I think Nurse is going to have a great year in San Jose. I think he's going to fit in amazingly with that group. That's never here nor there. What is here is that the Edmonton Oilers, for the first time and forever, now have fucking $7.2 million in cap space. And they have a full loss. Like, they have done it, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:14 It is so exciting for them. They also, or I talked about all those signings that they have. They've got full decor. Let's see what's going on. But, dude, now they have 7.2 mill to play with. at the deadline, like that's so different than what they've had in the past. And we'll see how things go with Babs. But holy shit, man.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Like the fact that fucking Greer did that is insane to me. I will never understand it ever in a million years. I actually said to Marty yesterday, I go, here's my spin zone. Dude, Greer does that because of this. He goes, here's the deal. Bowman. I'm going to take nurse and the full comment. contract, no salary retention, under the handshake agreement that if you guys don't win this
Starting point is 00:50:04 year, you have to trade me, Connor. When Connor's like, I want out, you trade him to me. That is what I think happened to you. That is the only thing that would make this valuable. I'm serious. And, dude, it is actually awesome that the, I guess it's awesome that things can happen this fast. Like the Oilers
Starting point is 00:50:28 were in, man, we've completely fumbled it. We suck this year. We're going to suck even worse next year. And then Conner's gone. And Leon's gone. And it's all over. And now I'm like, you are the cup favorites. And dude,
Starting point is 00:50:44 we say all the time the hardest part about the Oilers issue is the goalie. Because there's just, goleys are not available. Like you do not get a good goalie. by like, oh, hey, sick. I got a goalie that I can win a cup with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And then this year, the Leafs and the Oilers signed Freddie Anderson and Bob. And I'm like, oh, whoa, you both go to the cup now? And what fucking universe are two cup caliber goalies available for free agents for no money? And then they just got them both. And I was like, oh, wow, that was crazy. Yep. And, and dude, good for them. It's going to be a fun fucking year, dude.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It's going to be so fun. Um, I, I, I, like two teams, Toronto and Edmonton had so many question marks in this summer. Four thumbs up. It's like, I'm, I'm blown away, absolutely blown away. Ripping through some quick hitters here and we're not skipping over teams. It's just a lot going on. Uh, I love Philly's moves. Tyson Forrester signs an 8 by 7.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Vladar signs a 5 by 5.5. So fucking fired up for Vladar. Me too. That was a great playoff run for him. He's a great goaltender. And that, to me, is like, they, have Joe Wall. And they have wall. Don't forget. But like, Bladar is like, that's your guy. And I really love that.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Bladar's only 28. Wall's only 27. But Philly, man, Philly has 29 mil as well. They've got Zeggris that they need to sign. He's an RFA. Grabenken is in RFA. They've also got Driesdale, RFA, but like so much money. And they're very quietly starting to look like Montreal, who will get into where they've got TK at 8.7. Kutz is only at 7.7 and what a great year he had. Tippets at 6.2. DeVorex at 5.1.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Kates is at 4. Forrester's now at 7.1. And it's like, I imagine Z will probably be, I would definitely guess under 10. I'm guessing like 8.8.5 to 9 we'll see. But it's just great management. And like all of a sudden when Werenski was being talked about Philly was getting brought. And the fact that Philly's getting brought up now for like Star. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:53 It's like Philly made the playoffs. They want a playoff round. Like, it's a very exciting team all of a sudden. And I think that's fucking awesome for Philly, which is great. Zellweger, who has traded to Buffalo, signs a three by three. We love that for him. Montreal just mentioned them. They signed Demetov 8 by 9.1.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Great number. Nothing to say other than phenomenal number. Dude, what is it up with the 8s? I don't even want to talk about it. Like, literally, I would understand. We were told that no longer. can eight-year deals happen, but they still can for certain situations. I don't understand it,
Starting point is 00:53:26 but whatever. Great number. But that is a great number for Montreal, dude. Like, again, we're stroking off everyone right now. I love a good stroke off. Everyone's just getting stroked off. They have 14 mil in cap space, Chris. And again, you look through that team. Suzuki till 2030
Starting point is 00:53:46 at 7.8. That's fucking insane. Coffield at 7.85 until 2031. Slap, 7.6 until 2033. Now you've got Demidov, 9.15 until 2035. Like, everyone is under 10 on this team. Even Dobsons, 9.5, Hudson's 8.85. Matheson, 6.
Starting point is 00:54:08 It's just unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable work by them. They've got a few RFAs that they need to handle. We've got the lining situation. There's no way he's going back there, I don't think. But, like, 14.2. and cat like they are fucking kent hughes man absolute fucking wet back what they are doing it's fucking amazing uh let's go to the l a king's
Starting point is 00:54:27 la kings made a bunch of moves some classic ken hall and shit um but like the boys the boys are old and i love it i said i'm available yeah i'll bring that number down uh they go out and they bring eric hall in at 2.3.6 i love that move because holla has been like so I mean, dude, he got flipped in Jersey from Boston, did well there. It was great in Nashville. And now here he comes, and he's going to be with Fiala. Yeah, that's cool. Dude, I think that's really great.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Me too. I think Hala is like, we talk about, like, Hala is a Swiss Army knife guy. He can play center. He can play wing. The Kings absolutely need some depth in center. That is huge. So they bring him in.
Starting point is 00:55:10 They bring in Eric Gustafson on a one by one. That's just like more depth on the blue line. We'll see maybe a trade there. Like, I look at that blue line, and I'm like, with guys like Sees and Dumo and now Gustafs, I'm kind of like, what's happening. So maybe a trade's coming. They bring in Matt's Zuccarello on a one-by-one with a big bonus, which we're going to explain in a second. They bring Corey Perry back, one-by-one, fucking pairs back.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And then the one I'm most fired about, lots. Scott Lawton back, three by three point five, also massive for the center situation. The belly roll, the belly-roll state. Listen, a lot of older guys for the Kings, but I am kind of. kind of like, you know what, Kings have 1.8, so you've got to imagine some trades are going on here, but just a lot of good depth on like one-year deals. And I think you could see, like, again, we'll see if we see a trade with the Dumlin or the CC deal. Those guys have modified trade clauses.
Starting point is 00:56:08 But you're kind of like, okay, something might be happening here. Either way, they're good depth moves. Like, and some of those might turn into, you're playing well at the deadline, maybe they're flipped for something, who knows, but some pretty good work, nothing flashy there by the Kings, but a lot of good dudes brought into, which you like to see. Culture, culture survives. I am going to jump to the Washington Capitals. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Because that Zuccarello deal is similar to something going on with the Caps. Big moves for the Caps, Boone Jenner, signs 4 by 5.75. That was a get that they definitely really wanted. Vinnie Day or Ney signs a 4x4.2. Little rich for me, a little rich, but I still like the move. Washington, the big one was, oh, like we, they needed to see if, and also they made that Kyru trade.
Starting point is 00:57:07 We talked about that. And Tuck. They got Tuck, they got Kyru. They make those moves. and then Avechkin signs, comes back on a $1 million base with incentives that gets him to 4.25 for his cap hit. People asking a lot of questions about how this shit works because Zuccarello also has a player incentive bonus, but his cap hit is only $1 million. So here's the explanation.
Starting point is 00:57:37 In the NHL, if you are 35 years or older by June 30, and you sign a one-year deal, you can get massive player incentive bonuses that don't hit your cap hit. Now, the difference is, O signed a $1 million deal with a $3.25 million signing bonus, which makes his salary cap hit the 4.25.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He is also getting incentives, but the signing bonus is why his AAB is that. And what are the incentives? 10 games. He placed it in how much, though? His is only like, I think like 500K. Okay, yeah. Zuccarello has a base of $1 million and zero signing bonus, which is why his Aav-Cap hit is one-mill.
Starting point is 00:58:30 But his player performance bonus is up to $5.5 million, including $5 million for 10 games played. So when Zuccarello plays 10 games for the Kings, he gets $5 million to pay. It's an awesome caps or convention move, and again, it only works for players of this age. But that is the major difference. And I want to bring this up because it was like, Ovechkin gets $1 million in salary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 4.75 million if he plays 10 games, extra 4.75 million. And then 3.25 signing bonus. So I think it's like not 500K more. it's 4.75 more. But I'm a major. There you. I only brought it out because remember last time
Starting point is 00:59:17 I was like, I promise you, I'll actually be taking a one by nine. Yeah. And then like, he did. Just they, they did it perfectly.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yeah, yeah, exactly. They finagled it perfectly. Do they tax the bonuses at a higher rate though? Like, because I know when I used to get
Starting point is 00:59:30 work bonuses at another company, they would like, you get a bonus, but it was like almost 50% taxed. Probably. So it's like still kind of like the salary that's the one that's taxed. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:40 yeah. Who knows? Who knows? It's a lot of money. Either way, he's doing fine. It is a lot of money. So, Caps in a good space. Oh, comes back.
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Starting point is 01:01:30 Let's jump back into the Sharks. The Sharks do the darn-all-n-nurs move. They also signed Jacob Truba to a $4 by $8.25 million deal. I was shocked by that. nothing against I was just like really look at the guys making 8.5
Starting point is 01:01:48 he's 32 I was really impressed that it was that high again sharks have a floor situation Truba is a very good in my opinion a very good
Starting point is 01:01:58 defensive guy has a lot of toughness we know about the Truba train they need D they signed Kessel Ring to 4.5 after that trade obviously they have all these amazing young guys
Starting point is 01:02:11 Stenberg coming in It's fantastic. But they also signed Mason Marchment to a five-year by $6.75 million deal. They got Kiefer Shearwood at, I believe, five years as well, $5.75 million deal. The big thing with the sharks, with all of their young players, they have too many forwards, in my opinion. So I'm curious about a trade here. And then I also am curious about this question. when you have this many draft picks that you've used
Starting point is 01:02:43 and frankly in my opinion you've drafted really really well everyone in the shark tank is so excited when Stenberg and Verhoff were drafted and Lynn were drafted we talked about it last episode people are like holy shit man the future in San Jose is out of control exciting you're also getting Couture's 8 million off the books after this year and like that's interesting yeah yeah yeah but as we've said they have Ascroft that they're going to have to pay after next year
Starting point is 01:03:11 if he continues to progress like we think he will again he's only 24 like that's going to be a fucking eight year deal yeah yeah you are also paying um uh la la la la la la you're paying salabrini and will smith probably this year you'll give them extension but that's going to
Starting point is 01:03:26 so you have all these big payments that you're going to have to make you have 14 million cap space right now that's amazing again you're getting that 8 mil off for couture when you are in the situation and you need to at the floor. Yes, you do need to pay players. You got to get to the cap floor. But I'm always like, you've got to be careful when
Starting point is 01:03:45 you're in this situation. When you have, if you do think these young guys are going to progress the way you're going to progress, you can't pay too much to some of these older guys. You can obviously trade eventually, which you probably will, but like you got Marchmont at 31,
Starting point is 01:04:00 you've got Sherwood at 31, you've got Nurse at 31, Truba at 32 that you now have like nurse has a fucking full no move dude like it's he's probably not going to wave again yeah so it's always just like we are now running into the has greer been fucking killing it or has greer been really lucky because like you got kind of lucky with the second overall pick this year oh my you just missed the playoffs and you get that second pick and you get fucking stenberg so it's like i start to wonder sometimes I'm like, be careful with some of these contracts.
Starting point is 01:04:37 That's nothing against these players. I think they're going to have a really fun roster this year. But you just got to be careful. It's all I'm saying. Dude, especially if you and I don't know what you think because they were so close this last year. I forget who we were. Oh, it was maybe with you have. But somebody was like, Sharks are in Win now.
Starting point is 01:04:52 And you were like, not yet. And I think they should feel like they should make playoffs this coming year. But if they don't, I still don't think they care yet. because I don't think they're winning the cup yet, you know, even if they make it. So I'm with you, dude. If you don't think, and maybe they do think Nurse and Truba are long-term answers, for example, but if you don't, which I don't, then you need to go, Truba. I will give you one year by 12 to get my floor and whatever, but then it's gone.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Like these need to be expiring because so we can actually do something. because I'm with you, dude. Like now all of a sudden I go, oh, all these RFAs are coming up. And now I'm like, fuck, I have two more years of two-bara. Shouldn't have paid him that much. Or whatever. I'm just sitting pulling a name. But I'm just saying, these term needs to be way less.
Starting point is 01:05:48 That was my thought process. I agree. But again, it's like with these players, like Marchments probably not signing a two-year deal. Agree, but that's why I go, he's signing a two-by-12. And he's like, oh. Do you think? I don't know. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:06:04 of them aren't but someone will like I can get someone to go dude I will yeah grossly overpay you for two years if you just take the money and then fuck off I think guys just want term though like it's you know even if you match the overall number I think guys like I'd rather be getting that over five years than two me too but which is what it just it gets sketchy right because if you go here's two by 12 and Marchman gets four by six he's like I'm gonna take that and then you miss out on the player and now you're like well you got to pay someone and now you're like well now you're paying a worst player and now you are on a worse track than you were. Yeah. Yeah, tricky one. It's super tricky. So I'm just saying be careful. Yep. Another team, dude, maybe surprisingly, big thumbs up for me is the New York Rangers.
Starting point is 01:06:50 They make a trocheque trade to the mammoth and they get Dersie. Dersie. I love that pickup for them. Yeah. Love that pickup. They signed Oliver Bjorks, I think,'s going to be good. And then the big one for me was getting Marcus Pedersen. I think Marcus Pedersen is such, such, such a good player. And now, dude, all of a sudden, the Rangers defense, dude, they got Foxy, they got Gabby, they've got Dersey, and they've got Pedersen. And I'm like, that is a great top four. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:22 A great top four. I think Jersey and Patterson playing together, and then you got Foxy and Gabby together, that's a fucking really, really solid top four for the Rangers. I'm like, you go out, you make the big move for Dorofaev, you get Bjork Strand, who's going to be a really good role player, and I'm like, fucking, okay, Rangers, they've got 7.9 in Capspace. We might get a situation where Zabanajad gets moved.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I don't know if they're making the playoffs, but all of those moves, big thumbs up for me. I agree, great moves. I'm with you, I still don't think they're that great, but I'm like, good job. This is how we build. This is how we chip away. Vinny, I thought Vinny would only play East.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I was a little surprised with that too. He was like, I'm not knowing West. And they're like, okay, you're on the math. He's like, okay. But I mean, like, pretty psyched. Oh, yeah, he's, I'm punk for him. You're playing with Kells now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I think that's really cool. And yeah, it's jumping into the mammoth. They obviously make that trade. They also signed Andres Lee three by 5.4. Lee said it was like a brutal decision not to sign with Minnesota. I think Minnesota is a little bummed right now because they miss on or they lose Zuccarello. They miss on Under's lead.
Starting point is 01:08:35 People kind of wanted that bring in. And the big one right now is, or the Dersey loss, I'm a little bummed about for them. But Mammoth, those are two good ads for them too. That was so fun last year, them jumping into playoffs. So, good job, you.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Detroit signs Arvinson, two by five. Love it. Love it. Had it. Unbelievable year with Boston. I'm actually shocked how low that number was. Yeah. I hear you.
Starting point is 01:09:09 It was like, yeah. Dude, like I'm looking at what other people are getting and I'm like, excuse me. Yeah. He should have got way more money. Detroit, I just like,
Starting point is 01:09:19 it sounds like Kane's going to sign him with Buffalo. You're, we'll get into the Larkin situation. But like, just brutal days for Detroit. Yeah. Like you, going into this season,
Starting point is 01:09:31 kind of had to, or this offseason, before the Larkin news, you were like, this is it. This is the last year we have to go balls to the fucking wall. And now you're about to lose Larkin, you've lost Kane. You bring in, honestly, I think there's an argument, especially with the past years, like, is there an argument that Arvinson's a step up from Kane. I think yes. Yes, there is. God, you're awesome.
Starting point is 01:09:50 It's just like tough sledding. Okay, last couple bits here. Tampa. I did not really understand the Nick Paul move. getting, I just love Knit Paul Yeah, yeah. But after Carolina does the trade,
Starting point is 01:10:07 UFA trade for John Carlson's rights, they don't land them, John Carlson signs two by 8.5 with Tampa. Makes total sense. Respectfully, you, if you're Tampa, you go, we replaced Darren Radish with John Carlson. I think that's an upgrade.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yep. And is Raddice getting the same thing? I believe eight. He was getting eight, okay. It might be 8.5. believe it was eight though let me just look a little quick it is 8.5 exact same yeah exact same deal um obviously radish is way younger six years younger but as we looked at the numbers last year john carlson is still like top d man just watching him do yeah you want to talk about a fucking power play quarterback
Starting point is 01:10:50 yeah like you have if you thought that radish was as valuable as he was john carlson can do that especially for two years um i love that move for them i'm still a little little I just don't really know what's going on with Tampa. Same, but they must have been really confident about this. And I would love to hear, you know, no one's tampering, but I would love to hear they gave up rat. Now I'm quite sure they gave up Ratt because they were like, we are getting John Carlson because he said he doesn't want to play on the West Coast.
Starting point is 01:11:23 So he's definitely coming back. Makes you think, man. We are getting him. And then Carolina goes, we are trading. And it was only a six-rounder, but we traded up. pick for the rights to talk to you a few days earlier. I wonder if Tampa was like, oh, shit, are we fucked? And Carlson was like, no.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Obviously, it wasn't my choice. Like, congratulations. That's one of those things. Like, I hope no Carolina fans are upset about that. It's like, dude, GMs are starting to understand, no disrespect to anyone who's become a great player. But six-round pick is fucking worthless. So it's like, that is absolutely worth the price of try to convince him.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I would love to hear that conversation, eh? Like, what did they say? They were like, dude, we just won the cup stay here. We're East Coast to. And he was like, no. yeah i mean i i like why why didn't he go to car i bet it i bet it was pretty sick i truly i bet he was like this i'd rather be in tampa bay yeah and that's fine yeah yeah that is fine and and frankly i bet people in raleigh are like i guess yeah that's i get it yep you know go hang on the beach um
Starting point is 01:12:19 and then Vegas uh lausanne signs a six by four and rasmus anderson signs a 7.8.5 i i'm going to be honest i think that Anderson deal, he just didn't play that well after the trade. You literally had to do that after what you traded. You said that during the cup. Like so many people were like, geez, like his numbers dropping.
Starting point is 01:12:45 But we were kind of like, I don't know if it is, dude. Because what are you going to do? You trade all that and you walked. You traded so much for him. You're not getting Petro back. Like, you kind of have to do it. And they love him too. Like, you just hope he bounces back.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Which I think he can. The question is, The Vegas is currently $8.6 million over the cap. Now, we're going to see the Petro, LTIR again, is going to change that. And then we are under the suspicion that Stony might be on preseason LTIR. How much is that? 9.5. Do you think Dylan Larkin is still in the cards?
Starting point is 01:13:20 Do you have to get into, you had these, like, let's talk about it. Yeah, yeah. So our last topic, this is where we go to is the remaining what the fucks is what I call it. Yep. What? Actually, let's quickly talk about Redsky. Oh, well, let's let's end with that one. Okay, fine. Larkin, I am with you, dude, because, and I actually saw, I don't know if you saw this,
Starting point is 01:13:41 there was an article on NHL.com that said, Steve Eisenman goes, dude, I, and you said this, but we just got confirmation. There's no guarantee I'm trading Dylan. I heard his request. I heard his teams, and I'm trying, but I'm not. going to just give Dylan Larkin away for fucking three so there's there was a stretch where I said no matter what he's gone because it is just so awkward and weird it's like the Jlin Brown thing it's so you're like I you can't be here it's gonna fucking
Starting point is 01:14:12 torpedo the walker Dylan's a professional he will play as hard as he fucking possibly can and win to that city if he's there but I don't want to be here you don't want me here anymore let's leave so I was positive he's getting traded I'm still pretty sure they're going to get something done but now I'm I'm only 75%. There's a 25% chance in my brain where he's just a Redwood. Yeah, they might be separated without the divorce. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Which is terrible. Awful. Yeah, it's terrible. And it's like, to me, Florida is off the board. Gone. There's just no chance. They're doing a Florida deal. I think personally, Tampa is off the board if it was ever on.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I just, I don't know what Tampa could give up that they'd be willing to give up, based on what Stevie is saying. Minnesota is still in the mix, as far as I'm concerned, because they haven't done much. You wonder if they are like, we haven't done much because we're going to make that work. I think Minnesota is probably my number one landing spot. It was like my three at first.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Vegas was my lock one. And now, after the Anderson deal, I am really not so sure. There's just a lot that they need to do. They don't have that many picks. To me, it's like Larkin is going to have to way open up his potential spots. I've said before it's never been on the radar at all. I don't get why Boston is there.
Starting point is 01:15:32 I don't get why Boston is there. McAvoy's there. Swamen is there. They love fucking American players in Boston. They have a need at center. And I think Boston has picks. They have Zaka. They have Dean Laterno.
Starting point is 01:15:48 They have, I don't think you give up Hagan's for Larkin, but if it's not that much other than that. Yeah. to me, I think Detroit gets a good return and Dylan Larkin is in a very good spot. I am like, I can't believe that Boston isn't kicking tires
Starting point is 01:16:06 and I'm frankly like all Boston did. They did the JJ Proterka trade. We talked about that. They brought back Connor Cliff and I actually love that move. Yeah, me too. Really love that move. Cliffy had his like old Boston shirt on instantly when he did a quick little hit
Starting point is 01:16:22 which was fucking sick. But I can't believe that's not in there. I look at Anaheim who, I can't believe what Anaheim is doing. Like Anaheim losing everything they've lost, like they trade McTavish, Trubah's gone, Goudas is gone, Carlson is gone, Zell-Eggar is gone, and I'm like, what are you doing? Anaheim and the sharks are. Anaheim not jumping in the mix here. Maybe they are.
Starting point is 01:16:48 But it's like Anaheim, Boston, I still think Carolina. Yeah. But I think Larkin is going to need to give way more options if he wants this done sooner than later. And we are in July, it's July 2nd. And we talk about all the time, dude, if you have formally made this trade request, you want it to happen just as bad as everyone else. Because it's like, dude, this is uncomfortable. Yeah, it sucks. And for me, when you've made this type of request and like now we'll get into the Werenski stuff, it's like you can't.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Werencki didn't really formally make a request. So him doing what he did, which we'll get into, is a little different. Like, this was a formal request. I don't think Dylan can go back. No, it's terrible. So it's like you have to make a trade. So this is the situation. I respect the shit out of Stevie being like this.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Dude, I will try to do something here. But I am not getting fucking fleece. And when all you've done is Detroit is go get Arvetson, it's not like you've bolstered the situation where Dylan's kind of like, Well, maybe I'll stay. People were making jokes, like, should fucking Detroit make a trade for Werenski and be like, stay? Yeah, yeah. You guys are best friends.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Yeah. Fucking stay. So it's also one where I'm like, Dylan put fucking Columbus on your list. Like, go play with Zach there. Like, if Zach's like, I'm staying forever, go stay there. But like, they don't have a goalie. Like, you know, fucking. There's just a lot in this situation.
Starting point is 01:18:16 But I think a big thing is, I, again, I am the world's big. Dylan Market fan. I want him to be happy. I think he is unbelievable, but I do think he needs to open, to grow the list. There's so many great options for you. Grow the list so everyone can be happy. Super, super quick on Hellebuck. I'm just curious there. The list is now dwindling. I think right now for me, it's Buffalo, Carolina, and New Jersey. I think those are the only three teams. Right, right, right, right. Buffalo, Carolina, Jersey, I think Jersey is, there are some Jersey media people who are awesome out there who, I think I, I was like, that I'm hearing that that's getting steam and I am hearing that. Some Jersey awesome people were like this, nope, it's not, there's no steam there, and we'll see.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Yep. I think it would be insane. If that's not something Jersey is trying to pull off right now, because would you agree, the devils are not a team who can afford to miss playoffs again? yes and because it will it will cost you one if not two views better the devils are like they've got everyone everyone signed and currently they have nico dawes and jake allen nicco doz is not your starting golden for next season so for me if the new jersey devils with what they did with moving nemich and getting those picks if you do not make a move for connor hellabuck or for at the very at least Aden Hill.
Starting point is 01:19:47 I have no idea what you're doing this season. So that one is big on the list, but I think Carolina and Buffalo absolutely are too. The Zach Runsky thing is the funniest thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life. Dude, it is so crazy. Did you see what they tweeted? No. Their admin tweeted, it was like, everyone look right here, and it was the men in black
Starting point is 01:20:04 neuralizer thing. That's hilarious. What do you think happened? Well, here's what I had said to you before. he you were like why is it after the draft and I was like agree or you were saying it should be before the graph because you should be like yo use the pick like trade me and picks or something you know like we'll figure this out and I was like well maybe it's after the graph because he's going let's see what happens or I just want to see the plan like what are we taking what's going on now granted
Starting point is 01:20:38 it's not like they were picking top three and now like you can you can't can go look who I'm getting or whatever yeah yeah so it all was kind of stupid uh the whole argument my whole argument was kind of stupid anyway but I can't I don't really have a thought as to what happened but I think it is crazy in a way or put it this way sorry I'm dancing at this I just don't think he was ever saying anything but to get me out of here like that conversation was nothing other than I don't want to play here. So you're right, there was no Elliot Friedman tweet that it was a formal trade request, but it was a formal trade request.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Like, he was going, get me the fuck out of here, and now he's going, I'm here forever. And I have no idea why. I completely disagree. Okay. I think the statement was actually done really well. And so I'll read it. There's a statement from Zach.
Starting point is 01:21:39 said Don and I had a very open and honest dialogue since the season ended. Ideally, this wouldn't have become such a public thing, but that is the world we live in. Jesus Christ. Sorry, this is so small. Are my eyes getting worse? Welcome to age. Don and I have had a very open and honest dialogue since the season ended. Ideally, this wouldn't have become such a public thing, but that is the world we live in now,
Starting point is 01:22:02 and everything got blown out of proportion in my opinion. I want to win, and I want to do that in Columbus. I think that is true. As I've thought about things and discussed everything with my wife and family, we want to be in Columbus. It has always been my home. It has been my home for the past 10 years, and I have always been proud to be a blue jacket.
Starting point is 01:22:20 You know the best fans in the NHL. I love my teammates and coaches, and I'm looking forward to doing everything I can to get us back in the playoffs to compete for Stanley Cup. Don and I are completely aligned on that. I'm excited about what's to come with our team. I think, and tons of, I wanted to shout out some people on Twitter who said some awesome things,
Starting point is 01:22:38 but I can't find them. I think... I'm literally looking through the benches. I just can't find them. This person, shout out Sarah. She said something awesome. I don't think that there was a real demand. I think that with all of these players moving,
Starting point is 01:22:54 Zach just won a World Cup, just won an Olympic gold medal. I think Z was like, is there something else out there? And I think he hit up Don and was like, hey, dude, let's... I would just love to have a conversation. I think that gets out, whether it be his agent, doing fucking agent things.
Starting point is 01:23:12 And all of a sudden, we hear that news they're going to talk after the draft. Then people are like, how do you wait until after the draft? So then it's just people like us, chicklets, everybody are doing the like, okay, where could he possibly go? Yep. And I think he's absolutely right. It just got blown out of proportion. Yep. And when he's like, sadly, that's the world we live in.
Starting point is 01:23:28 I don't think he ever even made close to a formal demand. I think he was like, hey, Don, should we have a conversation? And I bet Don was like, yeah, if you want to do that, let's do it. But then it turns into the, like, all of these offers are getting sent to Don. And he's being like, fuck me, do I have to take one of these before the draft? And I think it did just get blown out of proportion. And they finally talked. And he was like, you know what, dude, fuck this.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Like, I love it here. I want to stay. Yeah. Yeah. It's like when you look in the fridge and you're not really hungry. Yeah. Sort of like, and then your mom's like, do you want a sandwich? No.
Starting point is 01:23:58 No, do you want a sandwich? No, I just want to look at the fridge. No, I just wouldn't look in the fridge. It's important. Yeah. I have two things to say. Perfect. That was perfect.
Starting point is 01:24:05 I have two things to say. One is a request and one is my opinion. My opinion is this. I, or a commentary, I should say. Matthew Kachuk, even before Brady, I'm just trying to think of a good team. Matthew Kachuk isn't going, hey, Bill, can we have a conversation?
Starting point is 01:24:30 Because the Panthers are good, and he is not worried about them sucking and his life. Yeah. That's, so you're right. I shouldn't have said I think Zach was going, get me to fuck out of here. But he was going, can I have a conversation? Because he goes, hey, dude, we blow,
Starting point is 01:24:45 and there's no way path forward for us to not blow, which is correct. So there is, my commentary is there is a situation there where he's going, dude, what's going on here? Because I want to win. And we are not winning, are not going to be winning anytime soon. We don't have a goalie.
Starting point is 01:25:04 We don't have any. I'm playing incredible. No one has conversations unless things aren't good. Well, yeah, but you're absolutely right. But I think it's no secret that things aren't good there. Yeah, yeah. But it's just you, you, fair. But they went on that heater at the end of the season.
Starting point is 01:25:21 I know. I mean, they were like almost. But they did that two years ago, too. You know, it's like they're just. Third times a child. You don't have. The thing that sucks about this is I, I, I, I, I stand with Z.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Ten toes. I stand with Z. I believe everything he said. Me too, but this, can I say my now request? No, because I'm still going. Well, I said I had two things. Fuck, he did say that. Shit!
Starting point is 01:25:45 My request, my genuine request to the NHL public and especially Blue Jacket fans. And you are going to fucking appreciate this because I also stand with Z. In two years. What does he have in this contract? Z? Yeah. Two years left. 9.5.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Well, maybe this is going to be slightly awkward then. But my point is, in whatever amount of time, even if he signs an extension, when the Blue Jackets continue to stink, and then he goes, please trade me, you do not get to go, you said you wanted to win here. You said you loved Columbus. I don't think they will. Which is what's happening to Dylan Larkin. You are allowed to go, this is my team.
Starting point is 01:26:27 I'm proud to be a Blue Jacket. I want to win here. And then when they don't win, you get to go. I would like to leave. So please be kind to him when you still stink and then he wants to leave. That's a great formal request and I second it. I don't think Blue Jackets fans will feel that way at all. I think it's a little different than Dylan.
Starting point is 01:26:48 But you're right, man. The facts of the matter are this. He has two years left. He's 28. Frankly, Chris, I wouldn't even be surprised if this year goes poorly and they miss playoffs. If just next year they go, you know what, dude. Let's get you gone. Let's get something going here.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Because it's similar to Detroit, where I go, you know, I look at this team, we love that Charlie Coil deal. But like 34-year-old Charlie Coil signing a six-year deal, five-year deal, is just another one where I'm like, okay, Charlie's eight, I think Charlie's one of the best third-line centers in the league. You go and get Valne the Shootskin. What's that going to look like? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:29 And then after that, it's like you need fans. Chance needs to take a jump. I think he will. Yep. We love Adam Fantilia. I think he's unbelievable. Cole Cillinger needs to take a jump. Both of those guys need to get signed.
Starting point is 01:27:46 They have 21 million cap space. I bet Fance signs, like probably similar, if not maybe, no, probably similar to like whatever Trevor Zegra signs. They've got good defense. Their goaltending is tough, man. Like, you're going to get an offer to Jet Grieves, but is Jet Grieves your starting goaltender? I don't think so. Mersleikins is not.
Starting point is 01:28:08 He's at 5.4. So it's like, they need to go and get Aiden Hill. They need to go, the way that COSA was traded for, like find one of these great goaltenders. Like, if the Bruins didn't just trade Corpusola, which, by the way, was a great trade by them,
Starting point is 01:28:28 and now seems absolute that Michael D.P.atro is going to be your backup and tandem goaltender with Jeremy Swayman, like that's a guy that you need to go. get but like Columbus you've got this one you've got a new shot with Zach here you've got to do stuff you've got to do stuff
Starting point is 01:28:45 because it's just to me it's like you have one more year yeah correct and and that's I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about like Zee makes that seaman he might be like this yeah dude and next year I'm going to sign another fucking eight year deal and I'm going to die
Starting point is 01:29:00 here yeah hopefully dude it's the heart of everything Evan yeah he's in Ohio why would he leave hard of it all Hard of it all. Hard of it all. Yeah. Maybe he retires there. You know what's funny is that you said, hey, Dylan, Larkin, try going to Columbus.
Starting point is 01:29:13 And I'm like, that's almost the same as Detroit. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like what we were saying when we went on the Brady Kachukramp thing. When Z says this, Don, ownership, it is now your job. It is your part of the bargain to do everything you can to make a life great for these players. And to bring people in and try to win a cup. Nope.
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Starting point is 01:31:11 the fraud watch we've talked about fraud watch on this show oh yeah something that you're like i think this might be on fraud watch and our top hits you're going to be things we're fired up about things that we think are awesome i think we should start with fraud watch right Evan you said you got a lot i do dude so i want you i was salivating for i'm i'm an angry man yelling at clouds um but yeah i'm going to pick one um jeff bridges you're on fraud watch holy shit What the fuck? Sorry, you're on Frog Watch, buddy. Well, you went to a person.
Starting point is 01:31:41 I love Jeff Bridges. I'm going to be going on the record. I love Jeff Bridges. He's a great actor. He's been in a lot of great movies. But he was on Theo Vaughn's podcast, and he's all like, Hey, man, you hear about this thing called Suno? And he's, like, talking about how he's making songs with Suno.
Starting point is 01:31:57 And I'm like, you can't sit here. And this is not just for Jeff Bridges. This is for anybody. I'm like, if you sit here and go, like, I made a song with Suno, it's like, no, you didn't make a song. You literally typed three things, and then the fucking computer made you the song. And it's very ironic coming from a guy who played a fucking country star and crazy heart, music by T-Bone Burnett. If anybody should.
Starting point is 01:32:20 And he's like on there going like, yeah, like the guys in Nashville, like they don't even have to pay money for musicians, man. You can just do it on a computer, man. And I'm like, that's pretty good. Pretty awesome impression of Jeff Richards. Yeah, well, it's easy to do. You just got to make your tongue kind of like big in the back of your throat, man. And again, I love Jeff Bridges. I think he's great, but it's like, dude.
Starting point is 01:32:42 He also won an Oscar for crazy. Yeah, I know. And like your fucking union went on a picket line against AI taking over art. And you're sitting here going like, you got to get on. Are you hip to Suno? And I'm like, dude. So Suno is just AI. I just look this up.
Starting point is 01:32:56 It's AI music. It's AI music. Anybody that's like, I made a painting or I did a song and you did it with completely all with AI. It's like, no, you didn't. And what do you type in to Suna? I think you just type like, I want to make a country song, and I want it to be about dogs and cats getting along, and then it like does every.
Starting point is 01:33:18 And you could be like, I wanted to be kind of fast. Like, it's like this. And then there's people online, they're like, yeah, but there's like you have to use your creativity to have the concept. But like that doesn't matter. Anybody, like imagine if Christopher Nolan just stopped it like, I want to make a movie about the Odyssey and that's where it ended. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:34 20 years ago, that's just called a. lazy dreamer. Yeah. So all these motherfuckers who like just should be lazy dreamers are like now I'm an artist quote unquote. It's like to put it in sports terms, it's like what's the difference between Connor McDavid and you going on an NHL video game and playing as Connor McDavid and be like I'm as good as Connor McDavid. Yeah, look, I'm doing it. No, you're not. Yep. You had a virtual reality version of Connor McDavid that played well. Are we thought to dude? Well, that's what people keep saying. There's like online, it's always like some guy makes a fan made video of like, check out this AI video I made with Suno of like Darth Vader fighting Jason Voorhees.
Starting point is 01:34:13 And he's like the fucking film business is so cooked, bro. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I don't know. Does anybody really want to watch that? I'm not sure. I mean, I'm an old man. No, dude. Well, so this is, I'm probably biased about this.
Starting point is 01:34:23 But I think music is more fucked than film. Oh, yeah. I see that shit. I'm like, I don't care. But music. I mean, there are jokes, dude, that pops. So it's like GCD, congratulations, E minor, congratulations start a band. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:34:37 You know, because it's like, okay, dude, all you have to do is, every song is the same song. Right. You just play the same pop hits. There's the same paint by numbers formula. There's only 12 fucking notes. There's only a certain amount of chord arrangements. Like, I just think that, like, in general, my view on art is it's how people communicate with each other, how we, how we so empathy with each other, how we communicate an idea of how we feel.
Starting point is 01:34:58 And if you remove people from that process, then what's the fucking point? Yeah, yeah, right. I just don't see the point of it. Like, it's fun as, like, a toy to play with. But, like, don't present it as, like, here's a thing that I made. It's like, you didn't fucking make it. Yeah, it's not art. It's, um, but it is entertainment.
Starting point is 01:35:14 It remains entertainment because, like, I can listen to a, you know, and be like, that's fun. That's a pop-and-sock. It is going to suck ass when we hear the first bop that's made by Suno. Dude, I'm sure there are plenty. Do you think there will be, do you think when the, when it's the whole planet is fully robots, Will they have, like, Grammys and Oscars and stuff? Will bots give each other?
Starting point is 01:35:37 Probably. Yeah, because they're learning everything from us. I think they will. I think they'll be, like, best actor. Yeah, it's just, like, we're not making fucking pencils here. It's like, you know, it's like, it's not like toilet paper. You just need to churn out as much because it's going to get, it's like, it's art. Like, it doesn't need to be, like, the only reason to use AI is because you want to do it faster and make more.
Starting point is 01:35:54 And it's like, do we need more? Do we need to make it faster? I just don't see the point. Damn, dude. Anyway, that's my rant. I've got way more. AI is on fraud. watch for Evan but through the lens of Jeff Bridge.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Which is because like, actually no, I like Jeff Ridge is you're on fraud watch. Yeah, because I love them and it's disappointing to me. You can't be an Academy Award winner running around here talking about a song you made, but you just made it with AI. That's fucking brutal. Beau Burnham literally made an entire country, fake country song about basically this without AI. Like it's already so easy to make a country song.
Starting point is 01:36:24 It's so easy. It's like literally like I'm, I'm a moron and I've got a studio in my garage and I can record a song in like a day if I wanted. Yeah. But the real work is thinking about what the, like I sit here for a week and I smoke pot and I think about life and then I go, oh, I can make a song about that. Cool, man. You know, that's what Jeff Bridges should be doing.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Yeah. Yeah, smoke more weed. More weed, Jeff. That's what we learned here. Jeff Bridges needs to smoke way more. Yeah. Correct. You are not, you, you are becoming, you're starting to rely on the clankers
Starting point is 01:36:55 and you need to rely on the wheat, on the, on the, uh, I was that a cool weed termed by the clankers. Yeah. stankers stankers there it is right there we got it so fast yeah yeah mine is similar to music or in the vein of music so i i will go okay uh my fraud watch i think i might have like mentioned this to you before in my frustrations but i've never aired it out on the pod my fraud watch is unexpected live music in bars oh boy so bad dad really hates this i fucking hate it.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Hate it, hate it, hate it. Now, don't get me wrong, all of you musicians who are like, dude, we rely on those gigs, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's why I said unexpected. If I go to a bar and I know they have live music or I'm going for the live music,
Starting point is 01:37:51 I have no problem with that. But when I go to a bar or restaurant and there is unexpectedly a fucking band there playing, it is absolutely horrendous. It's so fucking annoying, because I am going to that bar with the intent to sit, hang out, have some drinks with the fellas and talk about stuff. Or if I'm going to a restaurant, I'm trying to go and eat and like relax and enjoy my meal. And if there's some fucking band clanging and banging, it ruins everything. It's so loud.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Live music is so, like, dominating. You can't do anything. You can't think it's so fucking loud. I'll tell you from experience, like, when I go to a venue and play, like, my amp, I literally has to be on level fucking two out of 10. Yeah. In order to, and like, if I go any louder than that, it's uncomfortably loud in the room. So, like, it is so easy to be the loudest fucking thing in the world in a restaurant.
Starting point is 01:38:53 So I get it. We're not talking Ryan Gosling in La La Land here playing background piano in a nice restaurant. I'm talking a live band fucking. fucking hammering music down my throat while I'm trying to fucking eat my... That's inappropriate. That's inappropriate. That is bullshit, dude.
Starting point is 01:39:11 It drives me insane. I can't do it. When I go to a bar and I see a live band walk in and start setting up, I'm like, I'm out of here. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. I will leave. I'll leave. And you don't even go, you're like, you're saying unexpected, which pisses you off,
Starting point is 01:39:27 but you don't even go to the bars that have... The expected ones you just don't go to. Correct, dude. Because you're like, I don't want this. One of my favorite bars in the city, Hanano. Shout out Hanano in Venice. When there is a live band, it tucked in that corner, I get so upset. Yep.
Starting point is 01:39:46 And I'm always like, I'm going outside. We're sitting outside on the patio because I cannot, especially in that little bar, those bands will make your ears bleed with how loud it is. I just don't, I don't understand why you would have a band playing during a dinner service or in front of like dinner. Like to me it makes sense if there's a bar and there's a section that is just for you to sit and watch and drink. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:09 But if it's a band playing in front of a bunch of people eating at like 6 p.m. That makes no sense to me. Hey, so you're on my team. I take that. Well, no. Yeah. I mean, I'm on your side in the sense of like there's an appropriate time and place to do it. And I think that like if you're not good at programming your restaurant, then you're
Starting point is 01:40:26 fucking annoying people because I also don't want to listen to loud ass music when I'm trying to have dinner in a conversation. Yeah. To me, it's like, if you're a bar that has seats, people are sitting down, they're eating, and they're drinking. Why do you ever have a live band there? Ever. Unless it's like after 10.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Yeah. And then it's like dinner's done being served. If you're a bar that has a lot of dancing, then I kind of get it. If you're going to a bar with the intent to dance, a live DJ or a live band, like, it should be loud. It should be crazy. Yeah. But it's like if you're a bar that's more of a lounge and people are eating and just
Starting point is 01:41:00 chilling. Live music is the devil. Yeah. The devil. I want to take this one step further in that we love I feel like oftentimes in the show we find distinctions. Like when do what fries come with? Yeah, yeah. It's like if you order
Starting point is 01:41:16 at the counter, no. Yes. If you sit down, yes. You know, there's things we've defined on this show. If there isn't space for dancing. you can't have live music.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Yes. And that might be a hot take, but I'm telling you, dude, if I'm at a bar where it's just the bar, and I don't mean, like, an honor where you can make it work. Yep. Or even, like, the break where we used to, like,
Starting point is 01:41:43 you know, there's no dance. If there's not a space where I can then dance in front of that band, get your fucking band out of the bar. Man, I will go even further. It's like, shout out Jamos down the road. Yep. If you go to Jamos in the afternoon,
Starting point is 01:41:59 I, like, I went there, two days ago for the Sweden game at 2 p.m. It was glorious. There are high top tables everywhere, people sitting, eating, drinking, enjoying the game. And then after they start clearing out those high top tables because they're like, we got to make room for the dance floor,
Starting point is 01:42:22 for the live music. And I'm like, do you think that you're making more money by having some fucking, you're paying some live band that's probably not great? They're not getting paid much. Yeah. For me. There's not a lot of money in there.
Starting point is 01:42:35 But now we have a zoo of people sardined in there who aren't even dancing. They're just like standing there kind of nodding to the music. And I'm like, if you had those tables, they'd probably be spending more money. Yep. Because you'd have a server. They'd be able to get drinks more easily. I just, I don't know. Again, this is why it has to be after people are done eating.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Yeah. But even without the eating, dude. Again, this is my take. This is my fraud watch. Live music at bars fucking sucks And frankly, even if it's I am done eating, it is 10 p.m. The second that band starts rolling in, I go,
Starting point is 01:43:09 time to leave, dude. Ducees. Because you have now ruined the night. Now I'm not going to be able to hear you when you're sitting right across from me because this fucking person is jamming Wonderwall as loud as they possibly can. And now I can hear the conversation I'm having, I'm leaving.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Live music and bars, fraud watch. Great, great. Mine's kind of fucking random. and insane, but to be fair, you texted me this at like 1230 at night, and I was on like an hour 12. Don't add the caveat, dude. And I was like, man, what is bummed me out? And I thought,
Starting point is 01:43:41 actually, I kind of reverse engineered it and what made me so happy is it was so awesome that that game I was at last night ended at 7 or whatever, and then it wasn't until like not in the drive. Then the it got dark. Like I switched my headlights on it like 8.45. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:43:59 It's just I love that like it stays light. Yeah. And then I was thinking, so I was thinking about daylight savings and how much it sucks that in the winter it gets dark. And I know one hour, it like fucks with our rhythm anyway. But I was like, I actually think now, I don't know what is exactly on Broadway here, maybe the sun, maybe daylight savings in general. But I actually think we should have the sun set at 8.30 no matter what. Like, we should adjust our clocks so that the sun goes down at 8.30. Just react to that first before I give you some logistics.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Wait, so you'd have to, in the winter you have. Hold on it. You'd have to wake up in the dark. Yep, this is awesome. Which we do anyway. This is a terrible idea. Which we do anyway. This is one of the worst ideas you've ever had.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Well, here's the thing, Dan. Okay, you guys reacted. Right now, right now we wake up and it's dark in the morning in the winter, too. But then eventually it's like an hour. And then, yeah, for an hour. So it's dark for an hour when we wake up, and then the sun sets at fucking 4.30. And it's pitch black, and you want to blow your brains out. It's, okay.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Oh, it's awful. Well, no. It's in the winter when the sun goes down at 4.30 here in L.A. And I wake up at 7, it's not dark. If you wake up at 6, it's dark. But if I wake up 7, 8, it's not dark. So what should happen is the sun should come up at 1.2. 12.31 p.m. Like we should live our whole mornings in the pitch black while we're just stuffed in at work anyway.
Starting point is 01:45:33 And then right as we all step out for our lunch, God, the beautiful day is here. And we live our day and we have dinner and then the sun goes down. You would love Sweden. And the sun goes down and then we settle in for our TV. I get what you're saying. It would be lovely. I, I, I, when I used to have to drive from Savannah to Maryland for like back forth from college, it was a 10-hour drive, right? This like psychological hack that I had was that if I left at 4 a.m. And the sun didn't come up to like 6.30. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Then those like two and a half hours of darkness almost didn't count. And like when the sun came up, I was like, oh, now my day started. Yeah. And then it was a, it was a seven hour drive instead of a 10. I love that. And so like I see there's a psychological element that I understand. The morning hours are literally irrelevant. Like all we are doing is like waking up.
Starting point is 01:46:22 And the people who are up wicked early to gym, it's dark anyway. Yeah. Like literally just wake up. It's dark. go into your office and just sit there for three hours while it's dark and just do your job. And then be like, okay, now that you would, the first time you would ever step out ever is noon anyway. And now I'm like, great, the sun's up. Enjoy your, you enjoy your seven to eight hours of daylight.
Starting point is 01:46:40 And then the sun will go down and you have dinner and go to bed. And I'm like, we did it. We fucking did it. And then in the summer, it's just daylight longer and it's amazing. Like we have now. So what exactly are you putting on the frog. I'm not sure. I'm just telling you what's happening to me.
Starting point is 01:46:52 The rotation of the earth and the accident. You were given one directive and you don't have anything to. put on fraud watch. The fraud watch is us. We are on fraud watch for not correctly moving daylight savings to the appropriate time. He wants to have wildly moving. It would move so much this. This is such a brutal take for, yeah, it'd be every month. Like, yeah, no. There's not two daylight savings. You're like, okay. You move your hour back. This is such a brutal take for any morning person, which I, like, because no, no, person are mutants anyway, and they do everything in the dark. No, no, dude. You, like,
Starting point is 01:47:20 this is so wrong. And, and let me also say this. I also love it when the sun goes down later. It's amazing. Walking out of this offset 8 and it's still light makes me so happy. It fills me with so much joy. As it does everyone on earth. But that, yes, agree. But the implication is that nothing that happens in the morning is worth it. Like I, yes, I love the morning. I get so much done in the morning. And you can do it in the dark. No, no. Yes, you can do. Yes, you can. Everything you get, tell me every single thing you get done in the morning right now. Tell me. I walk outside and I bask in the sunlight on my face. Okay, you couldn't do that. That's the one thing you can't do.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Dude, you can get a UV light. I'm so mad at you for, for, we're trying to do fraud watch and you have nothing to put on fraud watch. You are on fraud watch, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:02 You were on fraud watch for not accepting that this is the way for, this is the truth. When the fucking Earth burns up, I still don't even get what you're saying, like you're saying that we should just change, we should change our clocks accordingly all year long so that an 8.30 p.m.
Starting point is 01:48:18 We anchor off 8.30 sunset. We don't have, so you're putting clocks on fraud watch. Yes. Because now clocks don't matter. Yeah, Every month there's a new, and actually, maybe they matter more than ever because it's like every day at 8.30 p.m. The sun needs to go down.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah. Well, you know that the scientists have said, like, the earth is, is it spinning faster or slower or something's happening to the rotation over the past few years? I think you would be shocked how miserable your life would become if every single morning until noon it was dark. Well, no, it would only be in the dog days of December. And I would go, who gives a fuck that it's dark in December? I think a lot of people. people in Sweden are like, it is brutal in the winter when it's dark all morning. It would make walking the dog in the morning a little harder.
Starting point is 01:48:59 And to be clear, we're not, there's no, we're not losing any daylight. I understand what you're saying. You're shifting your activity hours. You're just shifting light. Like, because now, now everyone's sleep until noon. No, no, no. That would happen, Chris. Well, good.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Then that would be amazing. Sleep is good. Well, yes, it is, but this is going to fuck up a lot of stuff. God, it would be so perfect. He wants everybody to be like a stoner. Yeah, yeah. Again, like mine, more pot, please. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:49:26 All right, now let's go to top hits. Why don't you start it as a little snake? My top hits, again, I was just riffed on it. Here we go. I was thinking about Fourth of July, which is awesome. I'm going to interrupt you because it's mine. There's no universe. You guys are brothers.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Okay, all right, all right, all right. Same time. Okay. That's your top hits. And if you do, do it. This is the last FD Adders episode ever And we are quitting
Starting point is 01:49:55 Okay I would like more If you fuck up the directive of this as well No this is this one You just said awesome stuff I'm waiting Are you cheating? Are you cheating up in Dan?
Starting point is 01:50:10 What is on your top hit? What is your top hit of the week? I want more grass volleyball Okay So grass volleyball Is your... Okay, sweet.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Because we were always playing beach, which is fun as hell. And then there's indoor volleyball, obviously. But when I swear when I was younger, I would go to Fourth of July barbecues, which are goaded. And there'd be a volleyball net up in the yard. And I was like, this is awesome. And then I never played that again for the rest of my life until Luke's Bachelor party when we played it in the yard. And I was like, God, that's so sad. And I was like, dude, I think we're just old.
Starting point is 01:50:45 So no one wants to play. No one wants to get dirty and sweaty at the Fourth of July barbecue, but I do. And I want more grass volleyball. and I'm going to try to play this year. Let me tell you something. You nailed it. Top hits is grass volleyball. I just,
Starting point is 01:50:58 I wish you would just said grass volleyball. I thought you, I thought you, the idea that you also had grass volleyball. Well, you did both play grass volleyball, didn't you? Drew,
Starting point is 01:51:07 is that, you know, I played badminton in the grass recently. Yeah, also, almost the same thing, right? It's just the net's bigger.
Starting point is 01:51:14 And a little less dirty, probably. Yeah, because you're not. For you, you know, because I'm flying all over the place in volleyball,
Starting point is 01:51:19 but badminton, you can, you can get down. You can get down. badminton but a little bit less shuttle cock that's like the greatest fucking thing incredible and i'd be okay with that by the way i'd be okay with a uh badminton sub grass volleyball is electric chris that's an amazing hit list i love it or uh top hit yep top hit Evan that's your top hit we're we're snaking well i'm gonna go last because i believe mine's going to transition perfectly so you're the snake
Starting point is 01:51:45 oh got it yes um this is a do you remember when um the internet just had like cool free things that Not everything was trying to sell you On shit Like when we were growing up It was like E-BOM's world And like sites where you would just like You too bro YouTube And we love YouTube
Starting point is 01:52:01 Yeah we do But like but back when it was just like Here's a thing that somebody made And whatever well there is one thing that I really love And it's this app called Radio Garden And literally it's a fucking globe And you can go around the United States You might even be able to go
Starting point is 01:52:17 To other countries And you go to a city And it shows you all the radio stations you can pick up like terrestrial radio so like for example if i want to hear local pittsburgh penguins like uh sports radio i can zoom into pittsburg and find all the stations and you listen for free are you getting paid for this no i'm not i swear to god i'm not i just think it's a cool like it's it's uh one of those things like man what a what a nice fucking service those were the fucking days bro yeah and it's still here i mean it's an app i don't know how old it is but yeah so
Starting point is 01:52:48 that that's something that i think is should people people should know radio radio is the last frontier. Radio is like, we, they will die. So your top hit is this app that allows you to check out different. I just think if you're, yeah, if you're home, if you're home, if you're home sick like me and you want to listen to like, I mean, it's radio. So it's like,
Starting point is 01:53:06 come on, it's not that interesting. But if you want to listen to weird stations and other places, Radio Garden is like a fun, free thing. I mean, there's ads on it that you have to like click through sometimes. Like, fuck. I'm like, damn it. But you just listen to whatever station you want, and it's so comprehensive. It's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:22 and it's cool that it's a globe that you can sort of like rip around that i love that dude i think this is cooler than i initially thought like i'm starting to wonder if there was something crazy going on in some part of the country yeah i mean you could like you'd be able to like if there's a crazy tornado in uh kansas yeah i could go to kansas radio like that's cool i do um i think i don't know why you would want to do that i'm very nostalgic about radio and i feel as though the new generation newer generations are not at all. And I both mean from a
Starting point is 01:53:58 driving, from a music standpoint where I'm just in the car and you put on, what was the bop and name, like 107.1? Yeah, I think, yeah, in New England. So you're like, okay, 107.1 and there's the guy who's going to play the hits, the pop hits, and I'm like, great. And then also big time for me is sports,
Starting point is 01:54:18 like listening to Red Sox games on the radio. Yeah. And I just think kids now are not listening to, you can get the TV feed on everything, on your phone. Like, you know, you can listen to your sports team TV feed and they listen to Spotify, you know. Which is fine. The world changed. That's all good. But I just, I am, we, I think we are probably one of the last generations that are nostalgic about the radio.
Starting point is 01:54:39 That's true. I, Evan, I was not expecting this. And I like it. There you go. Radio Garden. All right, my top hit of the week, I actually had one that I'll probably save. because I'm going to switch it up for a clear and obvious reason. My top hit of the week is the 4th of July in general.
Starting point is 01:54:59 I'm sitting up for this. Not only is it the 250th anniversary, but I am so fired up for the 4th of July. It's going to be my top hit because of the World Cup. Yes. I'm so excited for this 4th of July because I believe there is more love and excitement going on in this country right now than there has been in a long time. And I think you can't properly love something unless you love yourself.
Starting point is 01:55:36 It's the truth, dude. You've got to work on yourself first. And right now there's a lot of love going on. And I am so fucking fired up, dude, for an opportunity where we, along with Canada and Mexico are hosting this World Cup, there's millions of international folks who are here enjoying the U.S., enjoying things about the culture, enjoying the people, and having so much fun, and we now get to share that with them. So, like, I'm saying right now, if you are an international person and you're in L.A.
Starting point is 01:56:14 and you see me on the 4th of July, come up and party with me. Oh, hell yeah. Because, dude, the 4th of July is so fun. It's one of our best holidays in the U.S. And the fact that we've had this awesome month of the World Cup of so many people being like, wow, there's so many cool things about the U.S. This party is about to be so fun. And it's an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:56:40 This is what the U.S. is built on, dude. Sharing cultures, welcoming people in, melting pot vibes, the land of opportunity. So to be able to have had this awesome month of sharing the U.S. with all of these amazing people from around the world and now we're about to get to share the Fourth of July with them is so awesome. This is going to be the best Fourth of July of all time. Like all of these people from all over the world
Starting point is 01:57:07 are going to be in all of these U.S. cities and they're going to get to watch us do Fourth of July celebrations. Guess what? You're in it now. Dude, that's such a great point. You're involved now. that the World Cup, one of the host countries, their Independence Day fell during the World Cup window. And everyone like that, does that ever happen?
Starting point is 01:57:28 Dude, it fell during the World Cup. We're still in it. Canada's still in it. Mexico is still in it. All the host nations are still in the World Cup. Fourth of July on the 250th anniversary is happening. Like, this is so fun. So cool.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Yep. And I just think it is such an amazing opportunity that right now we're seeing more national pride than we have in too long. And we're fucking shutting down the media. We're shutting down the politicians. We're shutting down the negativity. We're shutting down the bad narratives. And people are for the first time in a long time just being so happy to be from the U.S., to be able to proudly celebrate that.
Starting point is 01:58:09 And more importantly than anything, to share that. That's what it's all about, dude. This Fourth of July is now about not just a celebration, but it's about sharing. And I'm like, I am so looking forward to Saturday to be able to wear some U.S. gear and to find someone who's not from the U.S. and put my arm around their shoulder and go, I'm so excited to fucking celebrate the Fourth of July. Because you know what's fucking awesome, dude? I have actually been out of the country the last two years. I know.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Two years in a row. I was in Sweden. and I was in England. And you know what? I had a fucking amazing Fourth of July because everyone there who knew I was from the U.S. was like, dude, it's Fourth of July
Starting point is 01:58:54 and you're here. Let's do some Fourth of July shit. That's what it's all about, dude. That's the fucking love and kindness that makes the world great. We are now hosting the biggest tournament in sports in this country on the Fourth of July
Starting point is 01:59:08 on the 250th anniversary. And we have all these international people here It's time to fucking make the Fourth of July an international day. And we'll get to go like this. Hey, we're not celebrating, we're not just celebrating the U.S. We are sharing the U.S. with all of you and everything that's great about it. And that fucking fires me. Dude, this, the, I got to go to the game.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Yes. And Gavin and Loup were like, this is, I've never been to an international thing. Yeah. Like, whatever. And I was like, oh, you know what? I am completely spoiled because of the Olympics that we just went to where I, because I don't think I had really until then, but, and full nations, you know. But now I was like, oh, I've been really feeling this pride.
Starting point is 01:59:59 And the women won two, and that was fucking awesome. But I just always go back to that Jack Hughes post game when he was like, you know, he's like tweaking on adrenaline. Yeah. He doesn't even know where he is. But he was like, I'm just so fucking proud to be American. I was like, it's amazing. And that is exactly how I feel too.
Starting point is 02:00:19 And I want to share that also. That's what I'm saying. Because, like, I think that emotion from him in that moment is, it's not like pride in the sin way. Yeah. It's in, I think it's got to be about in the sharing way. Like the way, I've just felt so awesome this month. Yeah. It's like seeing so many people have their mind changed about the U.S.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Is, again, it's what we're getting back. to what it was all supposed to be about, dude. So let's keep that fucking going and have the best party this weekend. So this is my message to all of you in the U.S. Have the best Fourth of July weekend ever and share it, dude. Share it, because that's what this is fucking all about. Fires me up. With that, let's close this episode with a blind ranking.
Starting point is 02:01:01 We've got Fourth of July barbecues coming up, and I hope everyone has the best time ever, and I hope you get to spread that love and joy and happiness to everybody you're around. but we're doing blind ranking 4th of July barbecue foods. Hell yes, dude. I want to add a wrinkle. Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Can we do barbecue sides? Or have we done that before? No, I don't know. 100%. I just feel like the mains we all know. That's going to be too easy. Yeah. You know what, Ed?
Starting point is 02:01:27 You can do whatever you want. You can throw anything here. I love it. Well, it's got to be, it's going to be Fourth of July barbecue side. Here we go. Bake beans. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:01:38 I love that. Me too. And I love them with yellow mustard, specifically yellow. Oh, really I'm a... Dude, have you ever done that? No, I've never... I... We're learning quickly on this podcast that mustard goes with a lot more than we think initially.
Starting point is 02:01:52 But I don't deny it. I'm going to stand with Chris on this, specifically yellow mustard. Because yellow mustard gets a bad red. Correct. People are like, yellow mustard is children's mustard. I think I've got love for all mustard. Yellow mustard on baked beans is distinctly better than like a spicy brown, a ground mustard or something like that.
Starting point is 02:02:09 So I love that move. I'm a pretty hands eater on Fourth of July barbecue. I like eating with my hands, not so much a fork. Now, obviously, there's great things. Probably even going to low here. Also, you know what? Talking about International. Also, great on baked beans is HP sauce.
Starting point is 02:02:31 What's HP sauce? It's a very British. You put it on, like, stuff on a roast or an English breakfast. It's similar to A1, isn't it? It's very similar to A1. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. piece sauce and bake beans.
Starting point is 02:02:42 Oh, man. I want to go high. I actually love beans. I love, actually, I love making beans, too. I feel like I'm in the, I'm in the wet. You just heat them up?
Starting point is 02:02:51 Yeah, I love heating up. You love heating up beans. You're pouring a can out and putting it in? No, no, no, he doesn't even do it. I just opens it and puts it over fire and put the can on the fire. Sticks it in a wedge of its two sticks. And then you eat out of the can. And then I go, dude, you, you're a hobo.
Starting point is 02:03:06 You're a fucking 1930s hobo. You watch Dennis the men. one time and then you were yeah yeah you're Christopher Lloyd from Dennis the eating beans out where they give someone the can of beans and they eat it so mud mud dude gives them beanie weeny and I'm like he's just finger fun and I'm like dude you need to eat those beads more costly but I mean for a long in front of children too it's like it's okay you make it last to make it last um one you put this on one holy shit I want to go
Starting point is 02:03:40 four but I'll go three the classic lame three but I mean baked beans are great I'm never to be mad about big bean three okay three all right we're locking in three I'm baked beans uh specifically grilled corn on the cob oh four because it's grilled I love corn on the cob man and like
Starting point is 02:04:03 I think a lot of people don't know this corn on the cob is often accompanied with seafood like a lobster egg and we grew up with that in name I love corn on the cob. Put as much fucking butter and salt on that shit as is possible. Also, you come out here, you put some like Cotilla on there, some tahin. Yeah, it's also fucking incredible.
Starting point is 02:04:21 But corn on the cob for me is just like gets in your teeth so bad. Your hands get messier, eating that. You just said you are a hands guy. I know, but your hands get like I can eat a burger with my hands and not necessarily get messy. I eat corn on the cob.
Starting point is 02:04:37 It's messier than fucking ribs. And we know how I feel about ribs. Yeah. I love corn on the cob, but I think I'm four here, dude. Like, that's not a one or two spot for me. Fuck, dude, I love corn on the cod. My corn on the cod, sometimes I feel like I am actually, this is the equivalent of my corn on the cod. Imagine a plate of loose corn kernels, cooked corn kernels,
Starting point is 02:05:00 and then I take a stick of salted butter, and I roll that in the corn. That is essentially what I'm eating, when I eat. Yeah, and that's incredible. What you just said sounds so. so good. When you literally see the indentation of a corn on the cub in the stick of butter, that's when you know you're fucking cooking. I know, but you
Starting point is 02:05:16 think you're misunderstanding me. You're implying that I take my corn and roll it in butter. I'm telling you, I take a stick of butter and roll it in loose corn kernels until it comes up surrounded with corn and then I eat that. I also love that. I also like that. What are you? Chris Farley? Yeah. I will go
Starting point is 02:05:31 four, because I think maybe there are hammers coming, but I like it. No, you're going four because it's right. No. Grilled corn on the cub four. potato salad now we're talking yeah now we're talking big time
Starting point is 02:05:44 now we're talking I love potato salad and this I'm also going to say this underrated I think I think it's such a staple that a lot of people dismiss it and they're like oh potato
Starting point is 02:05:55 I don't need some of the potato salad potato salad is so good and you gotta like make it well and there's so many variations that's why I love it don't buy shitty store-bought potato salad there's really good store-bought potato salad
Starting point is 02:06:08 but like you can make a great potato Potato salad is unbelievable. It's incredible. I want to go two, and it's a fork one. Because, you know, I like it. Yeah, there's something that I really want at one. Yeah, I wouldn't go one here. Okay, let's go.
Starting point is 02:06:18 But it's definitely above baked beans and corn for me. Oh, yeah. Potato salad, too. Potato salad fucking rocks. I'm going to say chips and dip of any variety. Damn. Now you put me in a... You put me in a potato.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Bind here. Now I'm in a bind. Okay, actually, great point. Chips and dip of any variety. I love that. Fourth of July barbecue. is when French onion dip comes to shine. Like, we're not, I mean, listen,
Starting point is 02:06:44 chips and salsa will be there. Yep. But Fourth of July barbecue, we're doing more creamy dips. We're doing French onion dip. We're doing like a dill dip with ruffles. Classic ruffles are the best. You can do like a buffalo chicken dip
Starting point is 02:07:00 on Fourth of July. Oh, yeah. That's fucked. I mean, we're doing all varieties. This might be one because of the variety. The variety is the spice of life. Yeah, because this. now if buff chick dip is in, then it is one.
Starting point is 02:07:11 I think it's, I mean, dude, Fourth of July sides, and I have the entire pantheon of chip dips, that's got to be one. But now my favorite fucking side is going to be said next and it's going to be five. You don't know that. You don't know that. It might not be said.
Starting point is 02:07:28 You're not in his head. Yes, I am. He's in my head. We have the entire field of chip dips. French onion, dill dip, Buffalo chicken dip. Chips and salsa. Sour cream.
Starting point is 02:07:44 Okay. I mean, I just, what is going to beat every dip on the planet? Guacamole. I'm forgetting some great dips here. Please, speak up, guys. What's the one with spinach artichoke?
Starting point is 02:07:59 I didn't say spinach artichoke. That's a great one. It's incredible. Trifle, three layer bean dip. Oh, three layer bean dip. Jesus. Okay. One. It's gotta be one dude. We have the entire field of dips. Yep, yeah. You guys are gonna love this. So five that number five is veggie skewers. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 02:08:21 Woo! God, that's awesome. Woo! We did it, dude. Oh, dude. Pimento cheese dip. Thank God, dude. Thank God. Thank God. Veggie skewers suck it. Oh, if you're eating a fucking vegetable on the fourth drive barbecue. No, come on. No, hold on like a pepper, onion, mushroom on a skewer. That's good. That's good. Yeah, sure. That's good. Suck it. Boo.
Starting point is 02:08:43 Suck it. All of our international friends, we ain't eating fucking veggies on 4th of July barbecue unless it's grilled corn on the cob. Now, I will say every now and then when I go to like a barbecue like that and someone has those fucking absolutely delectable skewers of a cherry tomato with a ball of mozzarella with a balsamic glaze on there. And some basil? Oh, amazing.
Starting point is 02:09:05 Yeah. But it is a five. I thought it was going to be pasta salad. and pasta salad. You're sitting here and you think you're in his head. The second he said potato salad, I breathed a sigh of relief because I knew he wouldn't do two salads. Because pasta salad is the most Fourth of July thing.
Starting point is 02:09:20 I love pasta salad too. I don't eat it ever except at Fourth of July. Also, I'm going to go, I'm going to take a step above here. Okay. Pasta salad, in my opinion, is distinctly different from macaroni salad. And I love them both. I love them both. I love them both, but pasta salad is way better. And, dude, I'll hold you.
Starting point is 02:09:38 Actually, hey, all of our listeners, I am begging you, begging you, DM me or us, your best pasta salad recipes because, dude, I can't tell you the amount of parties I've gone to where someone has brought a homemade pasta salad and it knocks my dick, clean off my body. And I'm like, what the fuck was that? It was unbelievable. Some people's homemade pasta salad recipes are some of the, The best shit I've ever fucking had. I agree, Dan, and I love them.
Starting point is 02:10:11 And I love, some of it even, like, the store ones are good, too. Unreal. It's usually the deli section where it's, like, the maid in the counter. Yep. But those are fucking awesome. So goddamn good, dude. So goddamn good. That is one of the best blind rankings we've ever done.
Starting point is 02:10:27 We nailed that. I genuinely think that that was perfect. I'm so proud of us. We are perfect. Yeah. Chips and dip, potato, salad, baked beans, corn on the cob, veggie skewers. That's the order. nailed, come on. Nailed it.
Starting point is 02:10:41 That's it for today's episode, folks. Beautiful stuff. We're going to keep ripping all the World Cup contents of tune in for that. More NHL stuff to come. We're going to have great guests coming in the coming weeks. A lot of exciting stuff. Beautiful, beautiful action going on here. Have the
Starting point is 02:10:56 best Fourth of July weekend ever. Such a special thing, Fourth of July landed on a Saturday. That is unbelievable. Share it, share it, share it. That is my message to you. Share this amazing holiday, this amazing country, all of the amazing people with all of the other amazing people who are here, show them the best time ever. Stay safe, stay happy, stay loving, enjoy it. We'll see you next week. Until then, skate hard.

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