Empty Netters Podcast - Firing Season! Vegas Dumps Cassidy And The Leafs Sack Treliving

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

In a shocking move the Golden Knight fire Bruce Cassidy with only 8 games left and replace him with Torts! The leafs fire their GM and it feels like that’s only the beginning. College hockey is giving us an incredible Frozen Four. The boys rank the best casting from the Harry Potter movies. And the beer league hotline was a massive miscommunication. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 02:27 - Cassidy Out Torts In 17:38 - Wildcard Update  33:13 - Frozen Four Update 39:29 - Troy Terry  46:02 - Potter Casting  1:31:41 - Beer League Hotline / Blind Ranking PRESENTED by BetMGM. Download the BETMGM app and use code “NETTERS” and enjoy up to $1500 in bonus bets if you lose your first wager! Thanks to our Sponsors! BetMGM: Use bonus code NETTERS when signing up to receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your first bet loses. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US) 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR) 21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. See BetMGM.com for Terms. First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This promotional offer is not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Stay hydrated for every adventure. Get on-the-go hydration from Liquid I.V. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first purchase with code NETTERS at checkout Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle, or was that all year? No, no, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.

So we are back. We are horned up, and we are going deep. Finish tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guineasasers, ran into you guys. That's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready and we're back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BedMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers. Over here on The Sticks, our favorite Irish traveler, Sean Bafini, welcome to the show.

Thank you very much. You know, in Ireland calling someone a traveler is like calling them a gypsy? Yes, I did know that. And then also, are you aware of, I think it's Irish traveler, what that means here? What does that mean here? It's like, it's what happened with biz. It's like there are people who, it's really awful and derogatory towards the Irish, but it's people who like start fraudulent businesses and rip off clients and steal their money and then

they just travel to a new city and like the general area and just do it all over again. That's just being Irish in America. That's just what we do. Yeah. Just drop the travel right off that, dude. He's just a traveler. And then over here, this guy knows the trick of getting out of jury duty, but he didn't give the trick to me.

Therefore, he is a rat. Didn't give it well enough. Chris Powers. As always. Damn, dude. I know. We don't need to waste any time on the fact that I got pee-p-wacked

and I tried to get out of it. And then we'll get whacked again now. Yeah, I just got rescheduled. They went, we'll see you here in a couple of weeks. Dangerous game, though, friendo, that you have to push it all the way to bust and then go, psych, I can't do it. And then they're like, okay, you're out

and you don't have to reschedule. I know. It's very dangerous game. Maybe I'll just get on a trial. be cool i'll be a foreman you'll sequester me maybe that say some more words maybe i'll do that hung jury

objection erroneous yeah well we've got a great episode today lots of crazy stuff happened the wildcard race continues to surge on shocking firing of bruce cassidy we've got some fun not ice with sean and we've got beer league hotline as always let's jump on into it starting off with cassidy Bush Cassidy fired.

Dead. Dude, there's eight games left. So Bruce Cassidy fired by the Vegas Golden Knights. They're firmly in a playoffs, but maybe not firmly, but they're in a playoff spot. They have been a top team in the abysmal Pacific all season long. But apparently feels like the GM, the team, they have hit their wits end. They are not seeing eye to eye anymore. and Cassidy has been gassed.

John Tortorella, Torts, back in the game, signs a deal to coach for the remaining eight games and through playoffs, and that's it. That doesn't mean he's not going to be the coach next season, but it also doesn't mean he has a contract to be the coach next season. So he is very much a caretaker head coach for the rest of the season into playoffs. It is a shocking move. Shocking move, but I do want to say this.

A little fun tidbit. This is actually insane. A little fun tidbit that your boy Danny found. In 2000, the New Jersey Devils were in first place in the Eastern Conference. Their head coach Robbie Fittorik, friend of dad, shout out Robbie, gassed, fired. After a little slump with how many? Eight games left in the season. Lou Lamarillo makes the call, gasses him.

Larry Robinson gets promoted to be the head coach, and what happens, dude? Cup. They won the cup. You know what? I remember this because this came up. to Scottie Gomez interview. I was like, why do I know this story? And then I was like, oh, yeah, we were talking about it with Gomer.

It is insane that it was eight games left. Yeah. Eight games left. Top team in the east. Obviously, Vegas isn't a top team on the West. But like a playoff team, eight games left. Coach fired. So this is, this is Cup City.

Just saying. Here's what I find interesting. So I had a lot of people hitting me up, like, torts. And I was like, dude, very, very nutty. But here's what I think, Dan. Torts, first of all, there's not a lot of guys, unless you're promoting from within, that would take this job right now. Yeah. Like, DeBore was already in Vegas, so he wouldn't do this.

But like a DeBore type who's sitting in the wings wouldn't take this job, I don't think, because he'd go, why don't I just wait a week? And then I have the whole plethora of options, you know, whatever. So you were kind of like, what did you expect? What were you really going to get? Yeah. Also, very importantly, Torts was an assistant coach at the Olympics. and Eichel said very nice things about him many times. Loved having him there.

Love being a part of it. I think that there's a false narrative amongst the fucking fans of the NHL that Torts is like this hated guy. Agree. Yes, he is a, he's an intense personality and he gets loud. And there are certainly some dudes who are on record being like, I did not get along with him. Sure. But this narrative that he's one of the most hated coaches. in the league is not true.

Dude, remember PLD when he was like, you know, I had my tenure with Blue Jackets, everyone thinks we hate each other. Torts and I speak on the phone every week. And he's my biggest fan. And we're always piping each other up. Like, you are 100% right. That it goes unnoticed.

Yeah. It's a little bit of the Belichick thing where everyone sees him into the media and they say he's a robot and then you talk to any of the players and they say he's actually pretty funny and chill. Totally agree. So I am kind of into it.

I think this, Because Torts basically, maybe you said this, and I thought he said it, but he was basically like, I'm just going to coach Philly or be done. Yeah. And then he was done. And I was like, okay, no worries. And now, now he's back. And I just think this would be fucking electric if he has one cup. I also think people think Torts has a million cups.

He gives one cup a billion years ago. Well, I mean, he has a cup. He has two Jack Adams and he has a gold medal. Yeah. So, like, I've got news for you. He's a great coach. Oh, oh, I didn't mean his own course. No, you're fucking piece of shit, dude.

you're part of the problem here. You're old, you're another one of these idiots jumping on the bandwagon saying, Taurus can't coach. God, can't coach shit! I'm saying, how nuts would it be if he gets his second cup? It'd be incredible.

A billion years later on an eight game left higher with the Vegas golden values. It'd be unbelievable. I don't, I think this is certainly just a caretaker role. I don't think he's going to be the coach of this. I think even if they win the cup, I don't think he's going to be the coach next season. I might be right.

I genuinely think he's like, yeah, no, I'll come in and take care of business to end it out. But if they win the cup, that is to me the only scenario where I could see him being the coach long term in Vegas. I think this is very much a caretaker thing through the playoffs. We'll see what happens. But the, I think the big thing for me is, is this crazy? Yes. Am I shocked by this? Not at all. Okay. I really like, really, really like Bruce Cassidy. I think he's a great dude. Every interaction we've ever had with him is awesome. I think he's a very good coach. He has the numbers to prove it. He has an unbelievable 178, 99, and 43 and four seasons with Golden Knights, winning a Stanley Cup in his first season. That is a great tenure as a Golden

Knights. Never missed the playoffs. Always a very good top team. They had some very upsetting playoff losses. Obviously, two years ago, first round, that was awful. Last year, embarrassed by Edmonton. That was awful. It is not unusual that Cassidy eventually wears Thins. on players. Yep. It's his style. That's not an insult. It's not something people don't know.

It happened in Boston and tons of the guy in Boston, guys in Boston talk about it. And they're like, yeah, he just like, you know, he rubs guys the wrong way. And it doesn't, it's hard for that to last forever. If you're not winning, yeah, it's hard for that to last. And here you are in the shittiest division in the league.

You were at the top of the division, and you have just been slipping and slipping and slipping and you're on a really bad skid here. And you are in this window with, the team that sells the farm to win. And if you're selling the farm to win, you need to win in said window. So if you're headed...

And you just got Marner and you just got Rasmus Anderson and I'm like... And you're terrible. Yeah. So I am not shocked by this. I think... And frankly, I always give Vegas credit for fucking they, man, they just do what they got to do. They are the biggest pull the

trigger team in the league. They should change their name to the Vegas gunslingers because they just let it rip. And I respect it. So, again, is this a wild move? Yeah, for sure, but I don't find it shocking. Do you think the, what do you think the results are going to be? I think I really, really like this Vegas team in that, like, I love, I think Ikel is one of the best players in the league. I think Anderson and Shea Theodore and Hanofin on that backline is unbelievable. I think Scoraph's great. Obviously, Mitch Marner's great. Hurtle,

Stone when he's healthy. Go on, go on, go on. They're a great team. I think their goaltending has been really, really tough all season long, and there does not seem to be a savior coming. And I think Torch is going to fire up the room. Absolutely. I feel like we're already hearing and seeing that that's happening. I think that this is going to be a nice move going into the final eight games of the season and into the playoffs. But I just, I'm sorry, I look at this Pacific Division and this Vegas team. And I'm like, are they going to be, are they even going to beat Edmonton?

Well, yeah, I wouldn't even say I would say that's the trending first round matchup, so it's not like, we'll ease into the playoffs here. I'm like, here you go, here are the Oilers. So I think anything could happen. I mean, at the beginning of the year there were definitely a top team considered to be a top team

by most of us. Yeah. But they're a far cry from Colorado and Dallas, in my opinion. Oh my God. Even Minnesota. So I'm kind of like, if they win a first round under torts, I think they're like, fuck yeah. Yeah.

I think, I don't think I would pick Vegas to, like, win the cup right now. Me neither. I'm also, it's like, it's the University of Denver. I'm never going to count Vegas out, ever, especially when you have a guy like Jack Eichol. Yep. But I, yeah, I don't know. I'm not, I don't think the cavalry is coming. Yeah, I think they play this weekend, which would be a good game,

Vegas, Edmonton, I mean. And right now, I probably wouldn't pick them to get out of that series. I'd probably pick the Oilers. But, yeah, I do think this is, this will be really interesting. This will be the fun part of this. this is just crazy enough to work like torts could come in and just A, be the motivator that he is

But B, just kind of give the team a new He's not that they're really playbook Not that they're really plays, plays in hockey But he could just give them a new enough approach A new enough system That teams haven't had any tape on it That all of a sudden they're just a reinvigorated Vegas Where I'd be like, oh, I haven't seen that forecheck

I haven't seen that breakout and I'm like fuck And then you get you maybe you sneak a few rounds Maybe you ring a few rounds out of this team Get them going a little bit I think this the Vegas's success is 100% what goes on in goaltending. Yeah. If Aiden Hill becomes the Aiden Hill that won a Stanley Cup,

they can go to the Cup. Yep. If not, then they will run into trouble. Can I read you their goalies numbers? Yes. Asokatano, 34 games, Hill 25, Carter Heart 12, Lindbaum 8. Asokatano, 8-93-259. Can you say the fucking real name

so people have a clue what you're talking about? Akir Schmead. Thanks. Aiden Hill, 866-310, Carter Hart, 871, 328. It's not good. And I know Aden Hill's good. I know Akir Shmead is good.

I know Carter Hart was once very good. No, you don't. Yeah, we know Carter Hart was once good. I know Carter Hart was once promising. I think he was once good. I think that's, I think he was once promising, and I think if you're going into these playoffs relying on Carter Hart, yeah, you got bigger promise.

You are dead. You got bigger problems. So I think you're completely relying on. on Aden Hill here. So let's see what happens. But again, wild move. I love the Larry Robinson connection. That would be insane. I love that Torrance is behind the bench. I loved what he had to say. He said he called Butch immediately and thanked him for the position Vegas is in, which is such a class move. And it sounds like the boys are fired up. So let's see what this does to Vegas. It could be very cool. Breaking news as we're recording. Whoa. At Toronto, Brad Tree Living has been relieved of

his duties as GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs. You had to see this coming. Yep. Absolutely insane that Toronto has missed playoffs and it's brutal that it's immediately on the heels of the year where Mitch Marner leaves. But I've been saying from the beginning as they started to struggle, this is going to be good for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Because of the clean house that's going to be coming.

I think this is the first shoe to drop in if they want winning to happen. in Toronto, big changes need to happen, missing playoffs with this group, instigates. Lunacy, yep. Is there anything to you where, and we never have people who lose their jobs, but I think they could use a coaching change. Oh, buddy? Yep. Fucking line them up and knock them down. Tree living's gone, baroubae's gone, and players are about to be gone.

And, and Dan, not to get two fucking tinfoil hat, rumor boys. Do it. Why not do it? The, if I was going to start a new era of Leafs hockey without Austin Matthews. Okay. I certainly wouldn't want my dead man walking GM making that deal. You know, I wouldn't go, hey, let's trade Austin Matthews. It is a little tough.

It is a little tough to bring in a new GM and go, your first order of business, sir. Yep. Trade Austin. But I think you go, if you want to shape the Leafs, get what you can like do it yes and you go okay I agree you're now you're like if there's anyone to have a long enough leash to do it it's someone who got hired yesterday it's done nothing it's like you and and and if you get brought in and ownership and the president and everyone is like this is what you have to do yeah then you're like okay okay

I'll take the job no one can blame me for this so I'll take the bet yeah I've really imagine tree leaving fucking trading Matthews and then getting fired I think that would be awesome and I think it would be and I think it would be awesome too if they told him that it was going to happen. If they went like this, hey, trade Austin, then we're going to fire you the next day. We're going to fire you anyway. Yeah.

But just fucking trade Austin. Just do it. I think that would be sick. I would love that effort. It would be fun as hell. I would be like this. Oh, you're telling me I can fucking let it rip. Yep.

Um, yeah, big change coming. And, uh, you're right. This is for the best, uh, weird. And you know what I love about it? You're starting from the top. Yes, Stan. Because usually it's the, let's roll the head coach.

Coach is so how unceremonious would feel, I mean, it might come within days here. But if they went Brubase fired, you just kind of go like this. Yeah, I mean, I know. Okay. Yeah. But they're like Tree Living's gone. And he has not been there that long. So they're like, tree living gone. When did he get that job? I think

I think Tree Living has had this job for two years, three years. He went right, right? It was the Dubus replacement. Right, right, exactly. God damn. So you go, we're dead in the GM. Coach is up next. Captain's after that. Yeah.

Boom. Assistant captain after that, I think this could be just what they needed. Again, I said the second it became realistic that they would miss playoffs. I said this is good for the Toronto Mapleies. This is going to instigate real change, and we have seen a big change already. They lost in the first round in his first season,

second round last year, which I thought was harsh because they gave the Panthers a good series. And then they missed the playoffs for the first time in a decade in year three. Yeah. Good day. Bang. Yep. That's actually great.

Line them up. That's actually great that they did this. Yes. Line them up. Knock them down. For him. That sucks for him. But this is actually, this is a big, this is a statement. It would have been really cool if they let him trade Austin, though. Yes. It would have been a fucking statement.

You go, Mitch Marner leaves under your watch. You miss playoffs. Then you traded Austin Matthews and then they cut your head off. Oh, incredible. Yeah. All right, let's take an ad break. And we'll be back. The Covinder Twins are facing off in the Court of Legends game.

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I am going to give you, we drops an episode on Thursday, a lot of games, been played, I'm going to read results to you and then you go like this. You react. This is word association. Okay. On Thursday, this was Thursday night games. This is going to be hard. The Habs beat the Blue Jackets. You can give me more than one word. Great for the Haps.

Penns beat the Sends. Tough for the Sends. Spunk beat the bolts. Nothing burner. Spunk are in it. Isles beat the stars. Huge win for the... For the aisles. Flyers beat the hawks.

Nothing burger. Sharks lost to the blues. Sharks are dead. Puk City. Preds lost to the devils. Huge for the Los Angeles Kings. Yes. Jets lost to the aves.

Nothing. You fucking were happy. Mammoth lost to the caps. Careful. No, nothing. Not you, them. Careful. Nothing burgers, though, still.

Kings beat the Canucks. Huge win. Needs a win. Friday. The wings beat the sabers. Monster. Monster. Absolutely monster.

Holy shit. Saturday. The Sends lost to the bolts. Tough. The Isles beat the Panthers. Necessary. Necessary. And I put this down here, but we're going to talk about it right here because you moved it up, which is correct.

Matthew Kichuk goal. Yeah, it was disgusting. Gross. Yeah. Gross. He's playing great. So insane when I'm just like, oh, yeah. You're one of the best players in the league?

Yeah. Oh, my God. You. Bruins beat the wild. Huge win. Huge win. Pen's lost to the stars. Pens, be careful. Be very careful. You're getting very leaky.

And they had, Sid was hurt again. Yeah, 12 shots. Yeah, very, very leaky. Sharks beat the blue jackets. The blue jackets don't fuck around. The spunk lost to the savers. Not shocking. The Preds lost to the habs.

Huge for the Los Angeles Kings. Yes. The Jets beat the abs. go away Jets just go away who do you think you are the flyers

beat the wings so unacceptable gargantuan rain so unacceptable detroit mammoth beat the kings absolute dick stomping I was at the game

it was really bad really bad but the mammoth look fantastic Sunday Pred's lost to the bolts huge for the Los Angeles Kings Preds fucking free fall

If Preds Preds are completely fucking fucking up. Habs beat the Cains. Monumental for the Habs. Bruins beat the Blue Jackets after being down 3-0.

Fat cock. Yeah. Heavy. Heavy. Heavy. Heavy hammer. Bang. Heavy hammer. Blue Jackets. Fucking fucking crazy. And then Flyers beat the stars. What do you think you're doing Philadelphia? Because here's the deal. Is that it? That's it. Now I have... The Philadelphia Flyers are fully in it.

Oh my God. They're fully in it. And what's crazy is like washing Washington's not even out. I know, I put them back in. Washington's not even in. Let me give you this. Here are the vital standings updates. There's also battles.

Like Buffalo and Tampa are battling, but like these are the important battles. No, we're only talking about wild. Exactly. Like Buffalo and Tampa will not be mentioned ever again. The HABs are third in the Atlantic. 73 played 94 points. Yeah. The aisles are second in the Met.

74 played 89 points. Penns are third. 73 played 88. So game in hand could jump. One win. they flop. Yep. And they're playing, those teams are playing right now. What's the score? Has anyone scored yet? Yeah, we're recording late today. So there are games on. Oh my God, it's 3-3 in the second. Holy bejesus. This is fucking madness, Dan. It went two nothing

Islanders that we don't, keep doing what you're doing. You're on a roll. I don't, I don't care about what's going on in the game. Okay, Bruins, wild card one, 74 played 92 points. And keep in mind, HABs 73-94. Yeah. Blue Jackets, Wildcard 2, 7488. Sends out 7386, but one win is tied with the blue jackets. Wings

out, 7386, same. Flyers out, 7386, same. And then caps out 74-83. So caps still on the fringe. But we're going to leave the caps out of this discussion. Yep. We are fully in a war between

the Bruins, Blue Jackets sends wings and flyers. The flyers are 100% in it. They're tied with the blue jackets. It's, I give so much, I think that it's, yeah, it's unacceptable for me to sit here and say that the Philadelphia Flyers have no business being in this conversation and when I'm going to sit here and be like this, but the Detroit Red Wings do. Yeah. The Detroit Red Wings are, they need Larkin back in this lineup so fucking badly. It's unbelievable. And I do believe it should be any day now, but it is, it's an absolute disaster. Yep. How, how bad they are. are in March, three years in a row now, where you're like in a great spot and you just let March

completely dick kick you. Think about the fact that they were comfortably in the Atlantic automatic bids for a long part of this season. And now they're four, five, and one in their last 10 and Philly up their asshole is eight one and one on a three game heater. And I got to believe, Dan, I don't know this for sure, but the way they're listed on NHL.com, I got to believe is incorporating some sort of tiebreakers already. Like they're doing that mass. So they're behind the Sends. You know, in terms of...

Sends have a tie-breakers. Exactly. Yeah. Yes. Which is not good. Right. So it's... It's now or never, you know?

It's nine games. Frankly, Chris, you have to win seven. I'm serious. I know. I know. If Detroit Red Wings have nine games left, if you want to make it into the playoffs, you have to win seven of those nine. You have to go seven and two in some sort of fashion of that

in the next nine games. And it feels like the wings are, this is maybe harsh, but it feels like the wings are slightly out of the Atlantic race. I don't think that that's harsh. I mean, you're six games back from Boston

with a game in hand. And the habs, you know, so now I'm like... But I'm saying, well, like, yeah, definitely the habs. The habs are above Boston. So, yeah. So it's got to be a wild car.

You were a wild car team now. Yep. You are out of the Atlantic race, probably. And do you think, do you think? Because is there, the jackets, yeah, the jackets, pens, and aisles are going to be going nuclear for those two

spots. Yeah. And then, yeah, because then if you want the wings in, then, you know, someone's going to take a bullet here. The fucking aisles or the jackets are dead. Yeah, it's, what's really tough is all these teams are good and they're fun to watch and they deserve it. But when it comes out, and this is a, I'm a Detroit fan, my version of, I'm a bitch, I know. Yeah, yeah. Since the beginning of this podcast, everyone knows that I love Detroit. I, I, we'll have to admit right now they do not deserve it. They probably deserve it the least. The way they're playing they deserve it.

That's all I'm saying. The way that they're playing, and what really sucks, Chris, is Columbus is slipping into that territory with the last few games. Yep. Like if you want to get a spot at the table, and that's all we're about.

You just want a spot at the table, you have to win important games down the stretch. And it's like, when I look at Philly being eight one and one in their last time, I'm like, good fucking for you. Yes. You are winning games down the stretch. And what's crazy is, like, in the West, literally no one is.

Yeah. Everyone is bad. Yep. And with the exception of Edmonton. Yeah. Edmonton loses Leon. And they've won three in a row. Like, games that I was like, you maybe shouldn't win this game.

They're winning them. So it's like, that's what you got to fucking do. And that's why they're ahead of Vegas right now. Yep. So if we're being real, we have to be real in the sense of who is deserving of it right now in playing clutch because what does everyone say? These are all playoff games. Every game for the rest of the season for the...

Every team we just named. You could argue that Boston as well, but all of these teams, and that's just in the east, we're going to get to it in the West, you are playing playoff hockey right now. With some important matchups against the teams that you're competing with. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. I think that the... Well, I don't need to make a prediction yet.

I'm going to wait. We'll get a little bit closer. Yeah. Okay, so that's the east, the west. Here are the teams that we are going to be speaking of. Don't even talk about the Central. Just go Pacific and then into the Wildcard. Vegas, third in Pacific, 74 played 80 points.

Mammoth Wild Card 1, 74 played 82 points. Preds Wildcard 2, 74 played 77 points. Kings out, 73 played 76 points. Spunk out, 72 played 75 points. Jets out, 73. played 74 points, sharks out, 71 played 73 points. I mean, like, if you're going to mention the sharks, you have to mention the fucking blues who have the same amount of points in 72 games.

Yeah, but one more game, so I only put the sharks in for the 71 games. Yeah. Which is fair. Because like, that's just two extra, you know. Brutal run for the sharks here. Brutal. Absolutely brutal. The Kings, well, let's go to the Pacific.

I'm not even entirely sure I'm ready to call it for the ducks. because they are three points ahead of Edmonton and they have one game in hand on Edmonton and Vegas so that's good but there is nothing about any of the way these teams are playing that's saying that like yeah they're going to hold it wire to wire my bet is the ducks win the Pacific

but anything could happen no doubt and as we just said Edmonton has won three straight games so keep your eyes on Edmonton and I it'll never happen but it would have been the funniest thing in the world if Edmonton claimed that number one one spot and somehow the Kings go on a heater and claim the number one wild card spot and then play them. Doesn't that feel so possible? I really don't think

it does. I really don't think it's possible. I don't think it's even close to so possible. They are six points behind Utah and you need Edmonton to jump the ducks and you need the Kings to win fucking nine straight games. So yeah, yeah. No, it does not feel like. Well, they're only four if they win. Like they have an extra game. Sure. But I just, no, it does not feel so possible. Especially with the way the Kings were playing. It is literally a possibility, but it surely does not feel so possible. I cannot believe the just do-do battle that this is. I mean, it's like it's crazy, dude.

And I can't get over. If the Kings sneak in, I know we already talked about this, if the Kings sneak in and they play Anaheim in the first round, that isn't anyone can win series, which is hilarious because Anaheim is. has been first in the Pacific for so long, but they still have a minus goal differential. And the Kings have a minus 27 goal differential,

but they could absolutely win. Who on? Right, but per you, they're never going to get, they're never going to catch the manor, so who cares? Like, the only way they could play the ducks is if they pass all the way past the net.

Well, I'm not saying that. I'm saying, I mean, yeah, I know what you're saying, but that is more likely to me than Edmonton also jumping the ducks and the Kings doing that. Anyway, what's wild is whoever, I think the Utah Mampeth are getting in the playoffs.

I think they're going to get this number one wild card seed. Everyone else is right now not a scary hockey. It's not a playoff team. I'm literally like, what are you doing here? I mean, looking, I know I get too obsessed with things like Gold Diff, but like these teams are all, we'll call it 500. You're all 500 hockey teams. And everyone has like a minus 20 or worse or something. slightly better goal differential.

It's like the, the, the, the, the, the, Preds, Kings, Crackin, and Jets, and Sharks, if you want, yeah. Sneaking into the playoffs to get fist-fucked by the Colorado Avalanche would be, is like crazy. But also, like, the abs. The afts steak, dude, who cares? Dude, everyone in, it's, I think it's since the, since the Olympic break, the 10 best teams in the NHL are all Eastern Conference teams. I'm pretty sure.

and it is weird watching the West, which felt like the most treacherous division of all time, or conference of all time. It's weird since Olympics feeling like there's a legitimate shift of like who is scary. Yeah. Because, right? No one in the world. I agree. I mean, I'll give Dallas some credit, but they've been a little leaky. Definitely.

Lost to the Flyers. So it's just this wildcard race is crazy. Yeah. The, I'm so happy. I guess just because of our allegiance, but it's, I'm so, the kings currently control their destiny. Like if you, you, if the king, yeah, which is amazing considering how it was looking a little while ago. I was like, you are so fucked. And now I'm like, oh my God, if you just win the games left, you win. They are three, three and four in their last 10, Chris. And they are somehow, if they.

In control. If they win, yeah, because they have a game in hand. If they win their next game, they are the second wildcard. I'm like, holy shit. So that is so awesome. I feel bad. for the Preds, because like I said one or two episodes ago, this fight back has been iconic because they were deader than dead, whereas the Spunk and the Sharks have been fading for a while, and the Jets, who very much should be a playoff team, it's kind of shame on you for the start you had, for how you've played.

So I do feel bad for the Preds, but it is awesome to see the Kings in control of their own destiny because at least, not at least, you get to rally now. It's fucking, we got to do it. We got to do it. it's what what I find so interesting is I mean there's great players on all these teams the Jim Hiller firing happened so late

and so weird I believe so passionately that this the team that is on the LA Kings roster even with the Kevin Fiala injury you bring in Panarin you get Mojo in here you get Lottie in here unbelievable guys to like up the vibes in the locker room and give you some awesome options in your lines you look at the way some teams like Philly right now is playing, like Buffalo and their surge in the second half of the season.

You wonder if could it be possible that in the last nine games of the year, the Kings just find the team that they always could have been this year. It is possible. Because Darcy Kemper is so good. I know. God. And there are so many great players on this. And it's like, I feel like an idiot for believing in it. But I'm like, I think it's there.

Yeah. I don't know what's going to make it happen. because I think it's coaching for me personally. But if somehow they clicked and all of a sudden they're buzzing, again, even without Kev, that would be a wild like Colorado's been kind of, yeah, coming down the stretch here. Would that be insane? Yes, it would be insane.

But crazier things have happened. It is like you said, the kings do control their own destiny. And of all of, in my opinion, and I might be delusional, of Nashville, LA, Seattle, and Winnipeg. I'm sorry, I'm eliminating the sharks. Okay. Of those teams, L.A. is the team that I believe in the most that could figure it out. Yeah.

We'll see. Yep, I agree. It's scary. Very scary. I'm tense. I'm fucking tense. But the race continues to be insane. All right, let's kick it to college hockey.

Yeah. Just a quick Frozen 4 update for you because there was some wild shit going on over the weekend. ESPN continues to fly. fuck up the coverage so bad. I think it was like there was one of the these games was on and they fucking dumped it for like a I don't even know what it was. It was like a baseball, like a random baseball thing. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Anyway, men's frozen four is ripping and rolling. North Dakota continues to steamroll. They have literally yet to give up a goal. Mike, I love my championship pick. Looks very good. It looks very good. They beat the hockey's champs

Merrimack, 3-0, and then... Credit to Merrimack, because tighter game than I expected. Yeah, but, dude, they just, like, they, I don't really feel like they had any scoring chances. They didn't, but I was like, this could be 10-0-0-0, yeah. Jesus Christ. And then they waxed Quinepiac 5-0.

Unbelievable. We got the Michigan State Wisconsin game. Unbelievable. We were texting, the Wisconsin, something, maybe they're trying to do it. Maybe the boys are going to do it. You've been all over it. Yep.

But just before halfway through the second, state went up 3-1 with a peeper. then in less than 40 seconds Wisconsin, boom, two goals, ties it up, they go into overtime in 24 seconds, boom, win, state dead. Bye-bye. That is a disaster if you're Michigan State, who at long stretches, I was like is better than Michigan and the best team in this country. Yeah. Long stretches? I think, I think.

Yes, because even in times when they were two, I was like, they're better. Okay. For me. I think early on, at most it was ever was three weeks. Yeah. That's probably as long. And it's when they were one. Yeah.

And even in that period where there were two, like after Michigan beat them. Because, dude, it has been three months now of Michigan being the best team in the country. Yeah. So I reject long stretches. I think they're better than Michigan. And now we'll never know. Well, I think we do know. Yeah, yeah, correct.

We do know. I think I'm now certain. Yeah. But I'll just cut to this here because we can do it. The one perk is Porter, a friend of the program, Porter Martone, buy, off to the majors. Instantly has joined the Flyers. Flyers fans are pumped up.

He is debuting. Tomorrow, you're listening to this today. Yeah, you're listening to it today. Debuting against the Caps in Washington. He was led Michigan State in goals this year. He's been phenomenal. He's an amazing fucking kid. And dude, what an ad for the Flyers.

He's like great tangent on the earth synergy here. I mean, this is the shit that gets you in the playoffs. That's what I mean. I'm like, you add Porta Martone. He comes in place fairly. Pumps in goals and I'm like, Hey, Bruins, why don't you grab James Hagan's who just scored a fucking sick peeper on Providence?

Get him up to the major. Get him up. So yeah, I'm sure Porter's actually fucking devastated, but bright, bright future. I'm pumped for him. Tough loss. After a weird year, as we always say,

don't count out Denver. Fucking insane, dude. Five-nothing clapping of Cornell. Thanks for coming out, Ivy. And then a six-two shillacking of Western Michigan. Last year's champs. that is an absolute disaster for me personally. Well,

because guess who's playing Denver? Yeah. The way they've did it, I think we had the same picks, but it was funny watching this go pretty much exactly how we said, where we went, man, Cornell could give pretty much anyone else a game, but Denver will throttle them.

And then Western Michigan, I respect you. You will win one game because people are been chirping you incorrectly all year. Yep. But then you will run into the bus off of Denver and your story ends. And then that just went like, I was like, yeah. All exactly correct.

I was also laughing, Dan, you're talking Ivy. Dartmouth either went up 1-0 or tied it 1-1 with Wisconsin. I can't remember. And I was like, and then they were like, and you're dead. Yeah. Fuck. So then the game we all knew would be a Bard-Burner. Michigan goes up 3-0 in the first period against Duluth.

And it was Dunions. Yeah. I was like, this game is over. Then in the third, Duluth scores 36 seconds in. My butthole puckered up a little bit. And then like two minutes later, Michigan scored. and I was like, boom, we're done. But Duluth Claude.

They made it four, two. Then with about three minutes left, they scored again. But the Wolverines held on. So we have our Frozen Four on, I believe, April 9th. Yeah. April 9th, we got our matchups. And it's pretty, this is the, in my opinion, one of the more electric Frozen Fours we've seen in a long time.

Like, I look at this and I'm seeing four Blue Bloods. Yep. And I'm seeing teams that we were kind of like, expecting. As this tournament shook out and we saw the teams in it, I was like this is the four that I want in the final. What was your, my frozen four was Michigan, no-dak, Denver, and then just Michigan

State instead of Wisconsin. Mine was Michigan, Denver, no-dac, and like I, in our purposes of-Dermost of Dartmouth. Well, yeah, and the purposes of what we're doing, I was like, maybe Dartmouth. Yeah, no, that was good. I believe that I had Michigan state. Yeah, so the I think, with all

respect to Wisconsin, who had some incredible wins this year, clearly. the Michigan State, if you drop Michigan State in here instead of Wisconsin, it is one of the great frozen fours of all time. Yes. Because I just go, oh my God. Yeah.

But again, Wisconsin just beat their ass and had some massive wins this year. So they will be just as worthy of a competitor. They could fucking beat no deck. So I'm essentially here with you in that this is a great, if you like college hockey man, obviously upsets are cool, but this is fucking. Mark your calendar. April 9th, we have,

these are all Pacific times. We have a 2 p.m. Wisconsin, North Dakota game, and then a 5.30 p.m. Michigan, Denver game. They're both going to be fucking electric college hockey games. You should all watch them. This is a nightmare matchup for Michigan. You got to the Frozen Four. Yep. Good step one.

But this is just not the team you want to play. And I'm not saying you would rather be playing Wisconsin or North Dakota much more. But Denver is just Denver. They are so well coached. They are so good. been here, it's just scary. That said, I got Michigan, North Dakota final. Same. That was my bracket. Fucking rights. Should be sick. Should be sick. I cannot wait. All right. Speaking of a Denver kid. Speaking of a Denver kid, last bit of hot ice news before we get in here, this is just something

that popped up that we simply cannot skip over. So funny. Simply cannot skip. Troy Terry, one of the most underrated players in the national. 52 games this year, 52 points, just an unbelievable perennial point per game type guy, hilarious dude, great player, great person. He is the first player in NHL history to log 50 games in a season without a single hit. I, we are not, hey, we are not hit shaming Troy here. No, we're not. We would never do that. What I want to know is how did you do that? Yes. I don't know how you can be a top line NHL player, point per game NHL player, and literally avoid contacting other players this often. You can be hit, correct?

Yes. So he's big. He has never doled out of head. He's just never laid the body. See, what I don't get, Dan, not only how, because I can go for a skate with the best of them, where I'm avoiding all contact. You are notoriously a bitch.

I don't know how a coach has not said anything. Can you throw the body? Because he's clearly been in on, Torchicks and been like, hey, dude, defenseman must love him. Opposing defense would just be like, oh, flip it in the corner. Can you imagine? I'm thinking about myself chasing down a puck into the corner and looking over my shoulder and seeing T.T.C. coming at me and I'm like this. Oh, it's amazing. I'll just

snap tape-to-tate breakout pass. Yeah. We're good. I don't need to brace for impact at all. Do you think there's a chance he's pulling a hyman and then come playoff time? He's a fucking wrecking ball? Sure. Because Zach Hyman had like 11 hits or whatever. There is a chance, but I associated this with, remember that kid who got a zero on the SATs? Yeah, it's harder. And his argument was, I in fact have to know all of the correct answers

because when I'm filling out the multiple choice, I need to know to make sure to not accidentally get the right answer to get a zero. Pretty good logic. Pretty good logic. So maybe Troy is the toughest guy in the league. I think there's a chance that Troy is the most controlled and poised skater in the NHH. Yeah.

You have no idea how my education. When you're mixing it up in the corners, the fact that he's like, nope, no, yeah, not hitting you. That's impressive. And who would these scorekeepers? I just, I wonder, like hometown cooking a little bit on that, like, hit. I want Troy to hit us up because I wonder if this stat came out and he's like, come on. I've hit someone. What are you doing to me?

There's definitely a chance that that happened. Yeah, he's either proud of it or he's like, what the fuck? Yeah, like someone clearly showed that to him in the locker room. and there's a world where he's like, yeah, I'm proud. I'm proud of every single one of those units, dude. I have not hit anybody. But there's also a chance that he's like, what? I fucking definitely hit someone.

That is so good, bro. If you're Troy and this comes out, do you go, damn right, dude, I'm going to finish the season without any? Or are you going into the next game being like I'm fucking plowing someone? I think at this point you have an obligation to us as a people to go 80. To go 80, no hits. Well, you've missed some games. Or to go, to go, yes, six. season. To go 60. To go to go second.

And go like this. I like that. I think that record, bitch. I personally think it would be so funny and so tongue-in-cheek if next game he just runs someone and then like claps his stick to the crowd. Are you not entertained? And like Honda Center

would do well to like make a meal out of it. Be like, Troy Terry with his first hit. That's hilarious. Get him a puck. Yeah, yeah. Save the puck, dude. First hit. First hit in the season. God. Good job, Troy. It's just, listen, we love when we get deep into the season. here and some of the craziest stats are revealed.

And I genuinely, credit to him, I don't know how you do that. I don't know how you play 52 NHL games. Again, on a top line. Can you look up right now? How many minutes does he play a game? Like probably 18 minutes a game? And he somehow has just made it through this entire season without laying a check. This year he's at 1816.

Yeah. Like, good goddamn, brother. Hold on. Yeah, how many do you think he had last year in 77 games? In 77 games, I bet Troy Terry had nine hits last year. Seven. Seven, Dan. Yeah.

I mean, listen. But, dude, the year before that, in 76 games, he had 17 hits. He's just preserving the body. So, you know, he's doing it. It's phenomenal. All right, let's take a quick ad break and then get into some fun stuff. The MTVner's podcast is brought to you by Liquid Ivy. If you were trying to hydrate better, I have got the answer for you, and it is liquid IV.

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My favorite things to do. John and I already had a session before we started recording. You weren't even here yet. Did you? Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about it for a while. It's unbelievable.

All the good content's already gone. Yeah, yeah, it was amazing. So we're dead. We should have rolled camera on that. You have nothing to say it. It would have been money. Harry Potter's back in the news. Because HBO and Warner Brothers

dropped the new Harry Potter series trailer. CP, you haven't watched it. For those who don't know, CP doesn't watch trailers. Do not watch things I'm excited about. I'll happily watch a trailer of some dog shit.

We went and saw Project Hail Mary the other day. Yes, I haven't seen it yet. Chris spent the majority of the preview section of the movies with his head in his shirt and his fingers plugging his ears and humming at show tune. And I was like, this is exciting because it means a lot of great stuff is coming. Yeah, yeah. There are this many things that you don't want to see. That's a good sign.

But the Potter trailer has been released and it has sparked a lot of chatter online. But since you haven't watched it, we're not going to get into that. We're going to get into an idea that you had. We were just sitting there talking about some of the casting, which I actually think we did on this pod once, some of the casting of the show. I think we did do that. And then I said to Dan, we were just,

we think we were in Utah. And I said, what do you think the top five casting in the movies are? And you were like, oh, whoa. And then this is what sparked Sean in my conversation earlier, where we were like, there are not a lot of misses at all in the movie cast. I think it is,

I think the Harry Potter films, all eight of them, is some of the greatest achievement in the history of film. Yep. All of, I think all of it gets no credit, by the way. I know. It's crazy. Lord of the Rings, incredible.

Love Lord of the Rings. But those movies were made. They get all of these Oscar nominations. They get all of this love. How, how, how, how did John Williams not win a single Oscar for the Harry Potter scores? It's actually a tragedy. I know Alexandra de Plaa eventually took them over, but John Williams creates maybe the most iconic piece of music in Hegwood's theme. And we didn't give him an Oscar for that?

And Lord of the Rings won. And you know what sucks? Lord of the Rings score is incredible. But Headwings theme is, it's actually impossible to think that Harry Potter as an entity existed before that means. Imagine creating something that perfect. That's how good it is.

It's so integral to the atmosphere and the mood and the identity of Harry Potter. It is kind of weird to think of a time before that existed. I have very vague memories of Harry Potter existing as a book and not existing as a film. yet. Yeah. And it's weird thinking back to that time who I didn't have like a mental image of like Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter yet. But yeah, it's one of those things where like I remember at

the time as well, everyone was like because they're both fantasy, I suppose. Like Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings were kind of like in parallel in the consciousness. But they couldn't be more different as film franchises except for the fact that they both play with fantasy. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So it's weird that they are compared. I will say the Lord of Rings films are fantastic achievements in filmmaking. But in terms of like blockbuster children's movies, Harry Potter has to be like number one. And people forget that they are, they were conceived as children's movies. Yes. Because they were children's books. And now it seems like it's such an integral part to modern culture. It's like, Well, I think it's very impressive how the books and thus the movies aged with the characters and with us.

By book three, we were already going, these aren't really kids books anymore. Yeah. And then certainly not by book four. The third film is the best in the, is my favorite. And I maintain is the best in the entire series. It's my guy right there. I remember when, I remember four reading four when Cedric gets killed. I was like, dude.

Spoilers. just kill that guy? Yeah, that rattled to my core. I was young. I mean, I was about, I was like exactly the age of Harry as these books came out. Yeah. So I was 14, 15. And they fucking deaded, Cedric. And I was like, holy shit.

What? We're killing people in this shit. We were talking earlier by how it starts off with like the, oh yeah. Like the Dersley's being like kind of like, it's very Matilda-esque. Very Matildesk. Where Vernon is very kind of like mistrenchable. And it's like

kind of goofy. It's kind of like Saturday morning cartoon villain. But then by the end of it, you have Voldemort's heads like face skin graft onto the back of Professor Quill's head, and it's like body horror, like actual scary stuff going on. And that's just in the first film. That's in the book we call a kid's book. Burning flesh. Yeah. Disintegrating a man.

I maintain kids like being scared. It's like what Halloween and everything's about. Yeah, yeah. Now they're just wrapped up in bubble wrap so much. You've got to get them back on ghostbusters. You go start scared the shit out of kids. More. I love it. Okay, so we're going to do our top five casting choices in the movie, and the answers that we've come to are a combination of their performance.

Thank you. And how they look compared to what you expected after reading the book. If you read the book, characters described, how does this actor look, and then also their performance? Before people freak out, that is important. It's, and if you weren't a book reader, you cannot participate in this conversation. Yeah. That's not true. Yes, you can.

But you can't yell at us because you didn't read the books. Yep. So how do we want to do this? Do we want to like snake draft or just? Yeah, man. Can we can have overlap? Oh, for sure. For sure.

And I want to say I feel as though this might be a cop out, but I mean it. This is my top five today. And I, my, like tomorrow I might be like, actually this guy. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, like this is how I'm feeling right in this. As we're doing this right now. Yep. This is your idea.

Why don't you start? Okay. Man, I have a short let. Well, God, it's so good. a shore list, but I'm going to go. I thought we were doing five. I know, I'm saying I have a, I didn't even pick a five. Like I, I'm looking at 10.

I'm looking at 10. This might be a, this might be the upset of the tournament. In five, I'm going Rupert Grink, Ron Wiesel. We're going five to one? Five to one, yeah. Okay, shit. My number five is Ron Wiesley. I didn't think, or I don't know, I don't what you guys have, I don't think any of the kids

will get on here for various reasons. But I just thought that, actually the whole Weasley family is quite good. But I just thought Ron, I thought he does a great job. It's obviously an easier role to play maybe because it's lighter and you're the comic relief. But in those heavier when he's being a brat in seven moments, I thought he does a great job. And he just looks so much like Ron. So does the new kid, by the way. But he just like he's like this little freckly dirty.

The new Ron is probably, in my opinion, the best. best casting. It's crazy. Yeah. He looks just like Ruper Grint. Yeah. But this is, remind myself what he looks like.

But this is a great Ronald Weasley, best friend of our hero. Yeah. And I loved it. Yeah. Very good. Sean, please. My number five is Amelda as Doris Ombridge. Very good.

Performance is a plus, plus. It's like the perfect. Like everyone, not many people go through their lives with a Voldemort style villain in real life, but everyone can relate to that person at school, as a teacher, or at work, as a boss, or somebody who has power over you and exercises that in the worst way. And Umbrage is like that dialed up to 11. Yeah. And she knows, like, the actress knows that and plays into that.

And it's like just the perfect amount. Like, that's why she's more hated than any other villain in the series is because she's like, grounded, but like in a hyper realistic way. Dude, the cast said many times that she was one of their favorite people on set. She was so lovely on set and that's such a nightmare character. And Stephen King said that that's the most evil person in the series. He was like, I've rarely written a villain so evil. And I love famously, she is described over and over in the book as Toad Like.

And I'm always like, ah, it's tough for an actor or actress. Like become Toad Like. And of course, she doesn't look like a Toad. But somehow she, like the way they have her up here is, it works for me. And that I'm like, yeah, look at this. She is the devil. And it's hard to like convey so much of that character is in like the sound inflections of her voice. Yeah.

Yeah. Like all that. Those are the, those are unbelievable. You're absolutely right. And it's like, it's hard to, uh, like you can tell even when no matter what she's saying how much rage she has inside of her that she's like, she hates. people, but rarely lets it come out in words, but it's just how she says those words. You get the true meaning of what she's saying.

She's fantastic acting. Yeah. I, okay, I just made an adjustment to my list. Okay. For purposes of I know there is one that will be on one of, if not both of your list. Okay. I'm going to leave it off for the purposes of my point on it. Okay.

So my number five, I'm going Emma Thompson, Sybil Trilani. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Looks exactly. And credit to the costume design. And the way Emma Thompson played Civil Trilani is out of this world. Yep. Exactly what I saw while reading the books. I was like, this is unreal.

That's a good one too because like you were saying, it's kind of hard to picture the, what did I picture, you know, before you see these people. Yeah. But that one is hilarious to me because I'm like, if I didn't picture exactly this, I should have been. Correct. every time I watch the movies and she first shows up I'm like dear God yes this is good good point though costume costume makeup big factor big factor big fat huge shout out to the costume and makeup design okay

you want to do your four with snake uh sure my four actually no keep going okay um four my picks are fucking rogue but good uh four well maybe i might want to leave this one for you you talked about this earlier. Actually, I'll do it because there's going to be overlap. For, I'm going Uncle Vernon. Great one.

Richard Griffith. He is fucking perfect, dude. There's an argument to me where he could be one. It's just he's in the movie so little, which shouldn't hurt him because I'm just talking casting, but dude, he is fucking perfect. Like the description of Uncle Vernon in the book.

20 out of 10. He's arguably the greatest actor in all of the movies. I know. He steals every scene. He's at justice. When he's eating ice cream and the funny, for me, the funniest is two, two? No. Three, when he blows up Aunt Marge.

Yeah. And Ripper is biting his leg and he's going, oh, Ripper. He's so fucking funny. Fine day Sunday. In my opinion, the best day of the week. Dude, his performance is incredible because he's so good and just the image, dude. The physicality of his performance as well. He is Uncle Vernon, remarkable.

We were talking about it, which isn't a thing with the character, at least I don't think it was, but the fact that Richard Griffiths has the, like, lazy eye. Yes. And he leans into that so much in the character. Because his uncle Vernon, his eyes are always the size of dinner plates. And it just, so it just like always makes him seem even more. kind of cartoonish when he's doing horrible villainous things to Harry. So it just makes it, it makes it fantastic.

Yeah. Yep, amazing. Okay, Sean. Um, I, so this should be higher. And I know this is probably on your guys's list too. It should be higher except for something that you said earlier, which made me think about it. But Alan Rickman as Severus Snape.

Yes. He's got, I mean, if I'm remembering correctly, it's like hook nose, pale skin, greasy long hair, which is exactly that. You mentioned the facial. Dan, Dan said this to me. Yeah. Yeah.

If I may have the floor. Yes. I believe I've left Alan Rickman off my list because of that. I think Alan Rickman is the best performance in these movies. I think he, if I, it is snake. If I am giving an award to who,

who did the best in all these movies of becoming and creating said character, it goes to Alan Rickman for me. But in the first movie, it's it's for me you know what it was it's in the illustrations too yeah in the if you go back and read the books there are you know how there's always a picture at the beginning of the chapter there's a there are several with snape and he has that Jafar almost Jafar like wiry goatee so when I was uh I think it's early books I think they adjusted after see that one right there where he's got the mustache oh yeah yeah I think I just

that was so in my head. So the first time I saw the movie, I was like, oh, Snape, no facial hair. Yeah. And it just, it kind of... You know what I realized recently as well is that the U.S. book covers are different to the... Oh, yes.

Also, UK ones. Yeah, yeah. The U.K. ones are cooler. But it's like, we were talking about physicality earlier, and, like, Alan Rickman's, like, the sharpness of his movements is so threatening. The... Dude, his intro.

I don't think it's his intro, but his intro to potions classes in the first book, or first movie, rather. There will be no frivolous wand-waving or silly incantations in this classroom. Incredible. And like that voice carries nothing but contempt. Yep. Which is fantastic as well. How disappointing.

He's so good. Yeah. That's probably best performance. It's got to be. Probably best performance. I wish it was higher, but if we're going, if accuracy to the book is part of it, then it's got to be lower. But I felt like it needed to be mentioned on the other.

Yeah, I'm actually glad because I was like, I might not put him on mine, but he has to be mentioned. He has to be said. So that was good. That was good. I think I'm going to get into some heavy hitters here because they deserve to be mentioned. My four is Raif Fines. Oh, good one. Yeah.

I feel like we always skip over him. He does get to go over it. He's not even on my short list. That's an interesting. Ray Fines as Lord Voldemort is, again, credit to the makeup team. How easily could they have made that look so silly and stupid? Yeah. And he's terrifying.

I don't know what I picture. before seeing philosopher stone or sorcerer stone in the US. Yeah, yeah. Say philosophers. Because that is the proper name. It's the, because he's supposed to be way more snake-like. But I don't know if I pick up snake.

If you were to show me a picture of the, what they landed on. Yes. By Gobble to Fire. Like that Voldemort design, I don't know if I would have picked up snake from that. Whereas when you read the books, I'm constantly thinking snake man.

Oh my God. So I don't know how accurate is, but the makeup, as you said, they make it scary without making it look silly, which is kind of the balancing point that they're trying to do. And Ray finds it's just so good at playing villains and everything. So good. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I don't think I see him and I immediately think snake, but the nose slits, the eyes.

And I'm pretty sure there's even a shot where you see his tongue. And I think his tongue might even be split in one of the other. Yeah. But either way. it could have been so dumb and it was a grown-ass man i was like that he does not look fun to look at yeah and uh the performance is just unbelievable the way he talks he definitely adds a bit of a with with certain lines yeah just great yeah god okay i am going to go number three belatrix lestrash my favorite character my number one uh that hbc delivers that

Because, dude, another character where you're just, you just fucking hate. And more evil in the normal sense than Umbridge. But you are like, she is almost more menacing and evil than Voldemort. She enjoys being me more than any other character. Yeah, definitely. And Voldemort's like so up here that she is so like, Jesus Christ, dude. Like, she could actually hurt us at any moment. and the performance is,

the look is perfect or the performance is perfect. I got to, we can't even get into it. It's criminal that these movies didn't get more award recognition. You could nominate

four people for Oscars every single movie and they just never did it for any of them. And I'm like, what are we talking about? You're telling me Alan Rickman wasn't getting

Oscar nominations for that fucking shit for half-blood Prince, you're telling me he's not getting an Oscar-on? What are we talking about? It's insane. And HBC, is HBC your one? No, not my one. Okay.

On your list, though? Well, it's already been mentioned now, but I was considering her. Okay. So I'll just go. She's your one, yeah. Helen and Bottom Carter, as Belich's Strange is my number one. Looks, I don't even need to say it all. It's absolutely perfect.

It's so perfect, dude, the fucking hair. The performance is the perfect. The way she looks is perfect. The teeth? The teeth. The teeth. Her, oh, my God. Everything.

The way she interacts. with Voldemort, ugh. Are they fucking, maybe? You know that what really kind of bothers me about Curse Child is the concept of Voldemort conceiving a child with it. I mean, surely, not canon.

He should have just hit her with the old fetus delete us or something. Yes. Yes, he should have. Yes, he should have. And, yeah, I mean, it's not canon. Curse Child is not canon. But, yeah, HBC's mine to one.

So what's your? three. What's your three? I had them in order, but I've kind of rearranging as we go through them. I think maybe Joey Walters as Molly Weasley. Oh, really good pick. Yeah. I think like, really good pick. Again, everyone, when you read that book, you envision, like, I think everyone going to school had like a friend's mom who was like that. And like she is exactly, like, I know a friend of mine when I was in primary school whose mom was exactly like that. And it's just so funny the way like that.

It's not even like how the character necessarily like looks or talks or acts, but it's like the feeling of that character. Yes. She brings it to life so well and just seems incredibly relatable. Dude, the, like I said at the top, the entire, we were talking earlier, the entire Weasley's except for Ginny, no offense, because I think she's a great actress. I just didn't like pan out the way I think,

the, with the, per the book. Yeah. The entire Weasley casting is like fucking top. Yeah. I'm like, oh yeah, that's pretty much how I pictured all that. Absolutely brilliant. Every single minute of the, when you have the entire ensemble together on the screen, it's always fantastic.

Every minute is golden of the Weasley family interacting with one of their. That's cool. What do you all like that? What would you pay to have breakfast or brunch at the borough with the Weasley family? Right. Oh, my God. Fuck. Everything.

Yeah, correct. Everything I have. Everything I have. Everything I've got. I'm going to go another obvious one, but it's obvious because it's perfect. Keeper of Keys and Grounds at Hogwarts, Ruby's Hagrid, Robby Coltrane. Okay, that's my two. Okay, Robbie, perfect, perfect transition.

Robbie Coltrane voice look, again, costume and makeup, but I think we all felt so warm and fuzzy during the whatever anniversary, 25-year anniversary. was it 20, maybe 20 year anniversary, that special that came out on HBO every time he was on screen, obviously he had passed, but it was so emotional because I feel like we all loved Hagrid.

Hagrid was like all of our godfathers. You're a wizard, Harry, dude, that's the moment. And he's just so perfect in the book, and Robbie Coltrane did that so perfectly well. And sorry, but Nick Frost, who I am obsessed with. Yeah. It speaks to how good Robbie Coltrane was

because in the trailer, Nick Frost won line and scene I was like, ugh, that's not my Hagrid. Have you watched, you've watched the trailer? I've watched the trailer, yeah, okay. I'm very hopeful for Nick Frost because he's going to crush it. He's going to crush it.

But it is, it feels like, like you're in an alternate reality. Yeah. It's like when you, it's just, you're so familiar to that actor playing that character. Yes. That's the challenge all these new actors are going to have is they're fighting an uphill battle. And I think they're all probably going to kill it.

But, like, that's the problem that they're going to have is that they're playing some of the most iconic film characters ever. And so they do have an uphill battle trying to convince you to get onto their side. You said this, which is a great call, the voice. The voice, man. Was really good because obviously there's a lot of costume that goes into that character. But the voice is great in that. I almost would have cast it that way, being like, do you sound?

Hagrid. Yeah. You know, and I really think he did. And I just want to add on top, and this has nothing to do with this voting, but it was still cool. The, um, credit to the set design as well, because everything Hagrid, I thought, the entire suit movie was perfect. Like, not just the way he looked, but like, yeah, the hippogriff looked, the way his cottage looked, the way, like the fucking screwed, like everything that happens. I'm like, yeah, that's amazing. Perfect. Thank you. So good. It's, I do appreciate how the series has, like, so many different accents. It's right.

Like, they didn't just keep it as just like, I mean, Hogwarts is in Scotland. Yeah. I understand. And like, you have a lot of like British, like, well-to-do London area accents as well. But I love that. There's like Scottish, Irish.

Like don't, a lot of people don't twig that Dumbledore's accent has a great Irish tinge to it as well because the original actor had it. And so when the replacement actor who's also Irish came in, he kept that there as well. and then like Cho Chang has like kind of a scouse accent as well she totally does which is I love that yeah although I mean we can cut this out as well how insane is it that Cho Chang's name

is just a combination of two different types of Asian surnames from two different nations yes and jk was just like Cho Chang stick them together and I will say to she we should leave this she jk well we read a ton of fantasy books as most of listeners know she is the goat nameer goat name her goat name her Think about all the names. Like Kingsley Shacklebolt. She's one of the great I've never seen a better nameer in fantasy books.

And she's like, let's just do Cho Chang. But even that sounds cool. I kind of agree. I was going to say that. Cho Chang is a cool name. I'm like, damn, dude. Isn't Shacklebolt in itself controversial? Haven't people complained about that? I think so.

Like shackle sounds like slave. And he's like one of the only black characters. Stop it, people. It's just a cool sounding name. I don't think there is any. God damn it. I would. will say there are some fantastic, fantastic names. So when you have a universe with silly names like

Hermione mixed in with very classic names like Harry and it seems like a cohesive universe, like that's a hallmark of like a well-themed. It's amazing. Even Albus Dumbledore. The dolless digger. Yeah. Which is like a B. A Dumbledore is like a B, isn't it? I believe that's right. Yeah. Dumbledore is like a gene. Oh, that's a species of something. Yeah. That's amazing. Are you asking for my next person? Yeah. Sorry, I've been ranting on. Let me see. I think my number two is probably going to be, I was going to do, Vernon, you've already still on that. I know, I knew that you're going to say that.

It can still be your two. I might do, I'm going to move my number one down to my number two, and I'm going to consider a new number one. Okay. Oh, okay. Harry Melling as Dudley-Durseley. Dude, he says to you earlier. What an awesome comment.

You can continue. Are you aware of what he looks like now? No, he's probably really... He looks phenomenal. I know, it's incredible. Let me look up now. That's a great pick. Okay, so this is...

Yeah, yeah, like, he looks great. So, out of all the child actors, it is incredibly hard to cast child actors. Very. Especially when you're going to create a series that's going to go on for like a decade. You're kind of gambling on a lot there. But Harry Melling is the...

best child actor, I think, across the entire series. And as he grew up, he was like a insanely strong actor as he became an adult through that series. You've to, it's very easy to just be the comic relief. It's very easy to just be the serious straight man that Harry is. It's very easy to just be like these things. But having someone who's like convincingly a little ass wipe, but also hilarious on screen, he is so much charisma that you like, you, you, you hate Dudley. but you also love when he's on screen and all the goofiness that he does and how like the physicality of the actor running down a stairs jumping up and down on top of the thing.

I mean, we've talked about the physicality like three times now because they just get that right every time. But he has to do that more than than any of the other child actor roles, I think. And he is he is strong enough that you don't want him, you don't want him off screen, but you don't miss him when he is off screen. and then as he evolves as a character and he plays all those different phases of Dudley's lives like we get a little snippet of like where he is in life every once in a while and like when he's you know now like dressed like an American

and he's like bullying Harry at the swing set like he kills that role as well and so I think he's an incredibly strong actor and I think he is the unsung hero of the child actors of the series isn't that an insanely good take it's a great take and I love that you mentioned I think about movie one when he gets trapped behind the glass

in the snake terrarium. Yeah. And he's pounding on the glass. He's like, Mom, hey, ma. I don't think in the moment we acknowledge how good that 11-year-old is acting.

He is genuinely. And he's crushing it. And just the scene prior, he's like, move out of the way. Like, he's such a, like, a bully. And, like, he has to go through in such a short span of time convincingly hit all these different emotional, like, points.

Whereas. It's very verruful. assault. Yeah, Draco has an entire film where he just has to be mean. Yeah. And like, you know, maybe has to, you know, get hurt or something. But then totally has to do such range in the first five minutes of every film. Yeah. It was no time. Great point. Did you ever see the deleted scene where it's the, it's the beginning of seven book when Harry's like, oh, they Dudley planted like a teacup to booby trap me. And Dudley's like, dude, that wasn't a boobie trap. I was just trying to get you tea. And then, like, you got to go. He's like, why isn't Harry coming? You know, that whole really nice

That scene is, it upsets me so much that it did, that it did make it to the final cut. I know. I know. I know. I think it's such an important part of the book. Same do. It's really cool. My two and my last one, because we know Helena was my first.

Oh, yeah. Nice. Is, I think rivals that, Sean, what you just said. Yeah. I'm going Ivana Lynch, Luna Lovegood. Nice. Another good, strong Irish actress. I mean.

Amazing, Dan. I love interviews with. Ivana Lynch because she's like, when I read the books, I was like, I have to play Luna Lovegood. I am Luna Love Good. And she is. She is credit to the writing, I would say, because it gets, you know, her lines are amazing. And she does such a good job. Perfect. She's perfect in every scene. Yeah. And God, she has the look. Like she looks so good. It's, it's, I would love to go back and read, you know, you guys read the Snape description earlier. I'd love to go back and read the first Luna description, because I can't pull it off the top of my dome.

But it cannot be far off. If memory serves, it's pretty spot on to how she's introduced in the book. It's like she's wearing like weird. Her glasses or something. Yeah, there's craziness going on. It's great. She's so good. That's amazing.

That's such a good pick. Okay, my. Both of your ones, yeah. My one. And this is, I can't believe this hasn't been said. Well, because this one I told you, my one is so rogue. And I only went with it. It's a smaller character, but I only went with it

because similar to my Uncle Vernon one, this, I don't think I've ever pictured, I've never seen the character look exactly how I pictured more. Okay. And for the short time he's on screen, the performance is great. Actually, so yeah, I think it's both. Is

Filch. Oh, wow. David Bradley is literally fucking perfect. Me. Like, when I, when Filch came on screen, I was like, oh my God. Student out of bed. Damn.

How he's like running through the halls and stuff. He's so good. It's like a marionette puppet. He's fucking so pissed about everything. Not, hey, not rogue at all. That's a great pick. Filch. Like that is,

Filch is, if that isn't exactly what J.K. was picturing that I don't know who she was because that is fucking perfect. That is great. It's funny that he is Walter Frey. Yeah. He plays a real greasy asshole pretty well.

Really well, dude. Oh, man. Filch was just nailed it. Absolutely nailed it. Chris, fantastic. It's a really good pick. Okay, Sean. What do you got?

Round us out, Sean. I don't know if she does beat Dudley for me, but I'm going to go with Maggie Smith as Professor McGonigal. Oh, dude, I love this one. I love this one. I love. Yep. Similar to the Alan Rickman thing for me. I, what, you see, my problem is that I can't unpicture her.

I think I pictured her. a little bit younger. Younger. Well, this is, okay, I will say, we were talking about how good the casting is across the entire, um, the entire thing. There are some hiccups.

And one of the biggest ones for me is that so many of the characters in the films are so much older than what the characters should be in real life. Yeah. Like, Snape should only be like 30 something. Oh, dude. I know. It's, it's, because he's exactly the same age as James and Lily, right?

Yeah. And, Snape should be 32. They died at 21. Yeah, he should be 30 years old. Yeah. So there's a lot of problems. like that. There's also like some issues like Emma Watson

was a cute kid and she grew up to be a beautiful woman and at no point was she like awkward looking pushy hair and buck teeth which is what she was supposed to be so that's seen like in Gobel of Fire when they go to like the dance where she comes inside and everyone's like wow it's like well she was already

very attractive. Can I give you a fun tidbit there is I believe one or two scenes in the philosopher's stone where she has prosthetic teeth in to make them look bigger. But they were so big and uncomfortable that Chris Columbus was like, just ditch them. And then an awesome thing in the books in two. When do they take Pauli Juice potion? Yes, that's two. That's Chamber of Secrets.

When Hermione accidentally turns herself into a cat by taking hair off of Millison Bullstrobe's robes. when she is getting fixed, Madame Pompfrey is shrinking her teeth, and Hermione lets her keep going. Because she was like, she was fixing my teeth. Right. Yeah.

Tell me when it's normal. She's like, yo, go, go. Like she comes out of that, and Harry and Ron are like, you look different. She's like, I let her fix my teeth. And then the, that's a cool moment. That is a cool moment, which you'd imagine, like, all that,

all of the students in Hogwarts must have, like, tricks up their sleeves. It's crazy that we're not doing plastic surgery all the time. We're over here bitching about filler and BBLs. You've got to imagine the wizarding world is doing some shit. 100%. But then the other thing was Harry

should be, we're talking about this earlier, should be a lot more like sort of lanky. Yeah, way tall. I stand for Daniel Radcliffe all the time because I think Daniel Radcliffe in the first movie is exactly what I pictured. I think it's some of them. And they talk

it, right? They, they, Chris Columbus in that special is like, when Dan walked in, we were like, holy shit, there's our Harry. It is incredibly unfortunate that he just didn't grow. Yeah. Well, I mean, how could the casting directors in 2000, one or whatever, like, guess the, uh, I do remember when the, when, uh, Chamber of Secrets was coming out, uh, there was like a tabloid newspaper and a newsagents. And I remember as a kid looking at this, uh, the scale that they had of Daniel, they had an image of Daniel Radcliffe and the same image scaled up to show his height growth between the two movies. Oh, really?

Is he getting too tall? And I remember even as a kid being like, this is the stupidest article you could have written for this newspaper. Like, calm down. But the, but yeah, like there's a couple of things, a couple of like misses that work for the film very strongly, but are not technically accurate to the book. And I don't think that films. based on books need to be like slaves to watch writing on the page.

But I mean, it'll be interesting to see. Yeah. Jesus, yeah. It'll be interesting to see what happens because I know there's a big like kind of dumb controversy online about like Snape being like race swapped. Oh yeah, yeah. The actress who plays Hermione is a little bit more racially ambiguous, I think. I don't really care as long as it doesn't affect a story.

I mean, can you imagine now the, the scene where, James Potter is hanging Snape upside-end underneath a tree? Are they going to make that like a thing where like James is a little bit racist? It's not great. Yeah. It does not look good for the marauders. Hermione's going to be mudblood, right? Yeah, all so bad.

Is that like the N-word of the wizarding world? Yes. It's not great. I always wondered after, because didn't Beltrick's LaStrange like carve it into? She literally carves mud blood into her arm. Do you think she like reclaims that in later life? She's like, what's good mudblood? Yeah, yeah.

They're like, yes, dude. I can say it. You and Hermione. That is so good. Yeah. It actually is funny, Sean, that the, I've seen the whole cast list, I don't think, but like the two prominent roles they chose to race swap are the ones, the two people that get bullied the most in the whole show or in the whole book.

Yeah. Well, Neville Long Bottom doesn't get. I always think Neville is like, the unfortunate. No, but they get bullied for who they have. are. Well, for the term that is meant to mirror, you know, it's not great. Yeah. I don't know why those decisions are. I mean, listen, can't wait. I think both actors are going to do a phenomenal job. Yeah, yeah. But it's just those are going to be tough scenes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll navigate. Yeah. I've got made. Snape is at least closer in age to what he should be in the books.

Yes, which I love. He is like, yeah, I'm trying to think. I like that they went with the dreads as opposed to just trying to do like the the Alan Rickman hair. Yes. Like literally wearing a Alan Rickman wig. Yeah. I'm like, okay. Because he would have, yeah, I think that they just like make the character your own. Yeah. So I'm happy with that. Uh, be interested to see how it plays I right. As long as it doesn't change the themes, like I said, with James Potter hanging him upside down underneath the tree is going to have a horrendous undertone if they decided to shoot that like scene for scene as they did in the, in the movie. Dude, uh, you almost have to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Made your bed. In The Rings of Power, Lord of the Rings show, they are a bunch of the actors that are playing the dwarfs in the mountain are black and of color and everything. And in the movies, like, that was one of the big knocks. Like, literally everyone is white in this movie. And but the Rings of Power is a prequel. And someone tweeted that was like putting a bunch of black dwarfs in the Rings of Power implies a horrible event to place in the Dwar.

A very horrific. a genocidal atrocity happened in this Middle Earth story. Oh, yeah, good point. We got to think about these things. Yeah. It's it, too, like with the Valerians, you know. 100%. It's like, stop doing it in the prequels.

Yeah, exactly. It just makes the, yeah, it's really bad. So good. Well, that rounds it out. That rounds out our unbelievable casting. Unbelievable casting. We need to do a Harry Potter spin-off podcast. Yes.

We really do. When we recap the show. I don't have so much fun. I mean, if they keep canceling the fucking. right, we're going to have to. So we're just going to start talking about Potter. Actually, we should do, well, we should do the Potter show when it comes out. We should do. We will do that. Yeah. Oh, we'll definitely do that. Yeah. Okay. I was, I went north of the border this weekend. I went north of the border, went up to Whistler for the first time, had a great time. Incredible mountain. Incredible. Vancouver, which I've never actually been to, and I just doesn't really count because I was just kind of driving in and out, but gorgeous. Absolutely as advertised. It was insane.

A couple highlights here. One, Canadian bus drivers at Whistler. Very mean. It was crazy. You interacted with multiple. Well, we were taking a bus to and from the mountain. It was like it was two bucks, but like, you know, you just, and they were, they were great. So these were mountain bus drivers?

Well, you'd think they'd be even nicer. No. Canadians are so nice. Everyone on a ski mountain is nice. Disagreesome. agree with that. Now you've got a ski mount in bus track. Do you think people on ski mountains are nice? Yeah. I leave my shit everywhere. I leave everything out. Are you talking about employees or people who are there skiing? Either way I disagree with you. Both. I think you run into really dushy

lifties all the time. Lifties? Is that the term for people on ski? People who work on the chairlift. See, I'm too poor for this conversation. That's the problem. That's why no one steals stuff on the mansion. You got to stop saying stuff like that because people are starting to think. that we don't pay you. And I'm like, this is, stop blaming me. $8 an hour is more than enough to survive in L.A. Will you fucking say thank you for once? I think Lifties can be really chill bras.

Sometimes they're kind of like, you yuppie fucks. Yeah. Skiing all day while I'm working. I'm like, you ski all day. What? I think it's very hit or miss on the mountain. I also think sometimes you run into a lot of those

like douchey skiers too. Yeah. So we had, I had a couple mean bus drivers. That was kind of surprising to me. And maybe I'll have to analyze more bus drivers on ski mountains. But in Canada, I think my expectations were just so high. I thought he was going to give me banana brett when I board it. You know? Instead, he was like, don't stand so close to the fucking sidewalk when I pull up.

And I was like, oh. Do you say? Do you say fucking? No, they didn't say fucking. Oh, my God. That is actually hostile. But they did say that and it was like scolding a bunch of people. And we were like, we were standing at the bus stop. Like, where would you like me to stand? That's the bus stop. Your company placed the bus stops, sir. My God. So that was crazy. Dan, you always say this, but so do I. More signage on ski mountains on the runs. It seems so insane to not just to have forks and then be like this. And I'm like, where are we going? And they're like, I'm like, is this the way to that chair? Not a sign. No, nothing. This doesn't hurt the visuals at all. If there's a sign that's like,

this way to this chair, this way to this chair. We took this epic. So at Whistler, there's two mountains, Blackcomb and Whistler, and there's famously a peak to peak gondola, which is nuts because you're like, it's like a 13-minute gondola ride where you're fucking half mile in the air. And that's wild. I don't think I like that. A lot of people don't.

Like, Keenan was like, I'm not riding that. Because he was like sketched out by it? Yeah, he's like, dude. I think my bigger issue is, why would I do all of the work to get all the way up to a peak just to go across. Well, because you're skiing blackcomb from 10 to one. And then you're like, we should ski Whistler. Instead of having to ski all the way down and then back up, you go, and there's also a Gandhi with a, um, every like fifth Gandhi has a glass bottom. So you can wait for that one if you want. So it's even crazier. So we took, we were also idiots. We were,

we were, we were like, we're skiing Blackcombe, but we really wanted to ski this one run on Whistler, which is called Peak to Creek where it's like the whole, it's like the longest run. Phenomenal name. Yep. So we are skiing blackcomb, skiing black home. We, we get in line for the peak to peak gondola, take it so we can get to Whistler to ski peak to creek. As we take it, we get off and realize we were on Whistler the whole time. And we've now peaked to peeked to Black Oak. Fuck. So that's genuinely actually super embarrassed.

It was unbelievable, Dan. So then we're like, oh, shit. So we ski some Blackhole, go all the way down, Gandhi back up, and then we get to peak to creep. And we ski it. And dude, there was actually great snow, but it was. You know, it's like it was a warm day, whatever. The bottom, not that much, but the bottom quarter of peak to creek was literally all dirt melted snow.

Yeah. So like a bunch of us, my group, but also other people were skiing it. And then we all like, everyone hammered the brakes. And I just looked down and it is literally just a bare mountain. So we all had to unclick and walk down the rest of the run. And I was like, how is there no sign that's like there's no snow on peak to creek? Don't take peak to creek. Holy shit.

That was insane. More signage. More sideage. Need more signage. And then just to, this is the final thought real quick. We went to Longhorn, which is like their big operation pot that was sick. We had a table reserve. There's fucking champagne spraying.

All kinds of madness. Great food. Great drinks. Great vibe. Everybody go there. And it was cool being in Canada because hockey's just on everywhere. Yeah. I kind of forgot about that.

Very good. And then some people came out to me being like, dude, I love the pod. And I was like, oh, wow, that's awesome. Because that doesn't usually happen at like random skis. mountains, but in Canada, it sure it does. The third guy who saw me, I think his name was Andrew. He was incredibly nice, but I was pretty buckled by then, and I kind of forget. So if your name isn't Andrew, I'm really sorry, but I think it was. The first person who saw me was his girl named Nicky, who was incredibly nice, gave us some epic runs to go on. Huge shout-out and thank you, Nikki. The second

person that came up to me was a guy named Mark. And he walks up and he goes, yo, and I can, I can tell if he's trying to, like, get my attention as a person who's like, I need up something. And then I was on, I got, I was like on a table. So I stayed. get down. I'm like, what's up? And he's like, you know, love the pod. And I was like, oh, thank you, dude, so much. And he goes, bought you a Julio Rojo Toro. Oh my God. And he had one for himself, Daddy. He had one for himself to. Yeah, he was like, I only drink these. When I heard you guys talk about it on the pot, I tried one. And now it's the one thing I drink. And every time I odor, people are like, dude, are you on blow? And he's like, no, I just, I drink

Julio Rojo Toros. Yeah, I was like, I think, Sean, so, where the fuck did I first half this. We were on a trip somewhere and I we were just starved for energy and I ordered a I was like get a vodka I ordered yeah and I ordered a Don Julio Red Bull and you know tequila's an

upper yeah so I ordered an upper liquor with an energy drink and you didn't sleep for three days yeah but I was like on the pod I was just riffing and I was like it was a Julio Rojo Toro and we just laughed our asses off and now so many fans in the pond will come up to us and be like, we're drinking Julio Rojotoros. And I'm like, they'll get you going.

They'll get you going. They'll get the heart beat fast. So massive thanks to, I think Andrew, Nikki, and Mark, and thank you for the Julio Rojutor because that is exactly what I needed in that moment. That's good stuff. Cool. Okay, Sean, wrap us up here with a beer league hotline and then a blind ranking. Let's start with the beer league hotline.

Last night, we were playing in a real chippy game. One of the refs told one of our players, he was an awesome. R word. When he was being a shitter, we thought it was funny. Penalties were lopsided in the other team's favor, and in the last five minutes, the guy that called,

the guy that was called an R word, gets another penalty. On the way to the box, he says to the ref, you've been playing fucking tummy sticks with these guys all night. For that gets a two-game sussie for gross misconduct. The ref

is claiming he said, you've had come in your ass all night. So now he's being punished for something he didn't even say. Do we call the league? Will they believe us? Oh, my God.

Oh my God. Tommy sticks to come in your ass. Hold on, let me do it. Let me do it. You've been playing tummy sticks. sticks. You've been playing tummy sticks. I don't know how you get there. I don't hear it. I don't hear it. I can hear tummy. I can hear tummy to cummy. I could hear tummy to cummy. Stummy dicks. Maybe cummy dicks. Let's stop. Let's stop. I hate it when refs take it upon themselves to do shit like this. Yep. I don't know why you're chirping this guy so heavily. And then when he gets mad, you give him a two-game sussie. But I'll also tell you that is a wild leap to go to, friend. Is there a chance?

Is there a chance that the ref gave him the sussie and then was like, well, I overreacted. I need to say he said something else. Like, is the ref making this lineup? Or do you think the ref really believed he heard this? I think it would be so easy to retroactively remove it. I mean, he could just go to the league and be like, it's not a two-game suspect. Okay, all right, he's sticking to his guns here. Yeah, which means I think he thinks he heard what he said. Is there? Is there, Is there a world where our pal here did say you- Oh, I didn't even think about this. I didn't even fucking think about this.

He did say you have coming here. Well, no, no, no, no. He might have. But the reason I think he didn't is because, one, the way this reads, it feels like the guy who typed this out heard the chirp. Oh, okay. And two, not a good chirp. To say you have come in your ass.

I don't, that's not a good chirp. So I don't believe. Weird thing to say. Weird. How did the ref even get there? I don't know. I don't know. And also, he called you, I think if you're the ref, and I'm not even, well, I'm not going to get into this.

But if you are the ref who called this same man. Yeah. An R word earlier, I think you've lost the high ground. I think you've lost the high ground to sussie him for a chirp back. Yeah. This is, okay. To answer the question, you have to fight this. I don't think you can.

You'll never win. Yeah, because they go, the ref says what you said. If the ref goes, he said it. He's toast. I think maybe you could go to the ref. Dude, he did not say that. I swear to God. Like, yeah, we were going out of that night,

and I apologize, but he did not fucking say that. Remove the suspension. This ref, given this entire story, feels like a guy who's not going to hear that. He's not going to remove that suspension. He might go, want three weeks? Boom, you got it. Three right there.

Dude, four. Say something else. I can go all night. I think you got to wear this one. Then what do you say to him the next time you're back and he's on the ice? Not a damn thing. Really? Are you out of your mind? This guy's unhinged. You're a scumbag. And you say that. He's going to say, I heard that I've got come in my face now. So you're dead. It's two more games. You just can't talk to this, ref. Dude, I like, though, that he lets the guy in wet hot American summer who, like, hears...

Gene. He hears the wrong thing. Gene. Yeah, Gene hears a wrong thing. This ref... No, Gene doesn't hear... Gene says stuff. Yeah, yeah.

And then they go, did you say you're going to go fondle your sweaters? Yeah. Because, no, I said, I'm going to do fondue with cheddar. This ref is the inverse of Gene where you could say anything to him. And he hears awful stuff. And he hears, you're going to come in my face. He said, I said, have a nice day. You got to be careful with this day.

The ref's mind is in the goder. Yeah. Definitely. This guy needs a sussing. You got to be careful with this guy. This guy needs a sussing. He doesn't even know his own thoughts, so you certainly can't be talking to him.

Don't even look at him. God. All right, let's round things out with a Bauer hockey blind ranking. Bauer's the greatest company in the world, the greatest hockey gear in the world. We've got a new coach, so we're going to celebrate a fun blind ranking here.

Jobs that John Tortorella could do if he wasn't a hockey coach. And one is like our, we're like, that should be his job. One is the one where we're like this, absolutely. Yeah, okay, okay. All right. DMV agent.

Wow. The reason I like it a lot, Dan, is because it's old school. There's nothing has changed in the DMV office in fucking 80 years. And Torts, Torts doesn't like new age shit at all. I want to go five here.

Five? I want to go one. I want to go five here because I don't think DMV, clerks are motherfucking you. Oh, they are. No. I think they're very dismissive. They, they don't have a lot to say. They barely

make eye contact with you. Torts will give it to you. They go like, I go like this. Here's my proof of address and they go, this does not count. Fuck you. Go back in line. But no, they don't. They, they... Mine do. No, they don't. And you know that I'm right. They do go, this doesn't work. But they never make

eye contact. They're very dismissive. That's not torts. He gets right in it with you. I won't go higher than four. I need a three. Absolutely not. There's going to be so many good ones. Okay. Four.

This is a tragedy. Four? Wow. Airport TSA. Five. Really? What do you mean really? What do you get?

You must get the nicest DMV and TSA agents. No, no. Again, first of all, the DMV is worse than the people who work at the DMV. The DMV is a nightmare. patrons at the DMV are... Are worse than the employees. Yeah, but the employees are such dicks. But because of the environment they're in.

And TSA agents, who's mean as a TSA, they're just also very... Here's the thing, man. I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm going to bat for TSA and DMV. The amount of idiots that are going through the airport every day and going through security, how many times do you have to see a TSA agent go like this? please empty your pockets. Do not have a full beverage in your bag.

And then 50,000 times a day, they watch people walk through the metal detector with their phone in their pocket. And they go, is your phone in your fucking pocket? And that person goes, yes, it is, in fact. And they go, well, why don't you fucking take it out like the 50 times I told you to before? You would get mad too.

I know, but that's what I'm saying. I'm so frustrated when I see people in front of me be surprised that they have to take their belt off or something. They've been just told like a million times. It's a crazy town. But the one thing that gets me every time I go through TSA is airport to airport. Some airports, you take your laptop out, other airports you put your laptop in. And when you just ask, because I always have to ask if they haven't said it in their spiel that they're shouting out, and I go, laptop in or out.

And would I fail, they'll always look at me like I'm an idiot being like, obviously laptop in. It's been that way for 10 years. And I'm like, no, it's not. The airport has flew from to get here. How'd me take it out? I'm with you very much there. All I'd add, though, Dan, is because I'm on your side, I think torts, it could be, because they are vocal and they're giving it to you. And torts could fix it.

Like, if it's torts, he's like this, take your fucking water bottle out. And people go, you've swayed me. I'm, I'm into three. Okay. I'm into three. I think he's, he's the TSA agent we need. Yeah, okay. Three, three.

Park Ranger. Five, I think five. Park Rangers are chill. I love Park Rangers. Me too. Me too. Park Rangers are by and large very chill. Do you think Torch could chill?

If he became a park ranger, could he be like... No, I think Torch is the type of guy who tries to chill. He buys a cabin in the woods and sits on his deck. And then the second something bad happens, he's like, you're fucking can't be. Yeah. There's a fucking beaver dragging a tree across my yard. He tries to enjoy nature.

But I like how nature is the old ways, though. Like there's nothing new here. You know, that's good. No Michigan's in nature. Yeah. Five. Okay, five. Motivational speaker.

Pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. Toritz gives a good speech. He's got the Vegas boys fired up already. He wants to go a metal. He gives a good speech. I would be willing to go one here for safety because we don't know.

He's given a Jordan Belfort style speech too. Like he's not being sweet and kind to you. He's not, uh, what's his name? Tony Robbins. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's motherfucking. Yep.

But he gets you fired up. Right. Which is what I want from my motivational speaker. I think there's got to be something awesome coming. Really? Yeah. I want, okay, I'll risk it for the biscuit. Two, two.

Number one job that Torch should have. Wedding planner. Hey, dude, I don't hate that. I don't hate that at all. Dude, do you think a single fucking speech would go long, or do you think a single thing would fall out of line? Actually, so true. There'd be no lollygagging when it comes to picking cake flavors.

No lollygaggan when it comes to what flowers you want. He would keep you on time on schedule. You're so right about the speech. Keep it moving. Torts would come out with a broom and sweep you off the stage off the dance floor if your speech was going on. Yep Torts I actually fucking love this now the more than thinking about it. This is a perfect one. Yeah, wedding planner. I'm surprised you didn't have on my list of options to pick from. I'm surprised you didn't have like drill sergeant drill sergeant drill sergeant. Drill sergeant honestly felt too obvious there was a couple like Couchachypte gave that list. Right. And there was like drill sergeant or like trainer, like CrossFit coach.

There are, I'm just looking at this, there are some unbelievable options here. Unbelievable, like head chef, golf course Marshall. Garf course Marshall's hilarious. Movie director's hilarious. But listen, wedding planner, I like it. John Tortorella wedding plan.

Get married, fuck stick. Do you know if he laugh as a warehouse manager? Just the guy, you know, there's like, there's so much shit going on. house and he's like fucking leg in to everybody all right pretty good blind ranking there but a really good episode that's going to wrap us up as always go uh give us five-star review spotify apple whatever you can subscribe to the youtube follow us everywhere we got some really great interviews coming out some more fun content coming all over the youtube channel make sure you see

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