Empty Netters Podcast - Kings Cups, Kessel Stories, and Hating Boston College with Alec Martinez

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

Alec Martinez has to be a regular on the show because this first visit is too good! Plus we’ve got goalie fights, wildcard action, and Ovi being Ovi. The professors are back with more madness. We de...bate Gosling’s top 10 movie roles. And CP gets his fastest connective tissue ever. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 1:38 - Goalie Fight! 05:50 - Wild Card Update 14:09 - Ovechkin is Cookin' 24:00 - Alec Martinez Interview 01:50:03 - Professors Puckline 02:02:21 - Best Gosling Roles and Connective Tissue PRESENTED by BetMGM. Download the BETMGM app and use code “NETTERS” and enjoy up to $1500 in bonus bets if you lose your first wager! Thanks to our Sponsors! BetMGM: Use bonus code NETTERS when signing up to receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your first bet loses. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US) 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR) 21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. See BetMGM.com for Terms. First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This promotional offer is not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Built for athletes, styled for everything else. The Bauer Spring Apparel Collection is live now at Bauer.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all year? Not I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:00:20 So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Finish tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guineasas and ran into you guys. That's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready and we're back with another episode of the empty netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers, on the sticks and cancer-free. Woo! Dr. Evan Watkins!
Starting point is 00:00:41 Thank you. Yes. I have, I beat, well, the team of radiologists at Keck USC beat cancer. I just laid down on a table. And you let them beat them beat you. They beat you off. They beat you off. They beat off my cancer.
Starting point is 00:00:54 You got your cancer beat the fuck off. Thank you. That's pretty sick. For now, I feel pretty good. That's pretty sick. Over here, to my left, a man who can't make a reservation for shit, Chris Powers. I thought you were going to go, who is a cancer? Are you really? What's your sign?
Starting point is 00:01:09 I would have all signed. We're firing. We are snapping it around right now. As always, as always. We are snapping it around right now. This is fantastic. All right, folks, we've got a huge episode for you today. Alec Martinez joins the show. Unbelievable interview. We're getting into the crazy, crazy madness that continues to go on with the wildcard race. Up is down. Left is right.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Everyone's drunk. It's insane. We've got a goalie fight. We've got torts as the new coach. It's all mental. Let's get on into it. Let's start with the goalie fight. Dude, what is everyone doing?
Starting point is 00:01:41 I'm actually now like, calm down. Goleys. Enough. We are one. We can't be fighting all the time, dude. We are one away from getting a calm down. If there's... I wanted them so bad.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Now I can't have. I don't want them. Go away. I got a text from Fuse yesterday. Oh, shut up Fuse. Shut up. Fuse. Fuse texted him.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Fuse texted me and he was like, how often do goalie fights happen? And I was like, they're incredibly rare. And he was at the game. He was like, I'm here and the goalie fights happening. And I was like, yeah, it's the hot trend right now. People are playing Pokemon and they're getting in goalie fights. I have a question. Does it feel like fights are up this season just in general or no?
Starting point is 00:02:17 I would love to get that data. Yeah, I'd love to get that. It just feels like I don't feel that way. It feels like to me, and you guys have been paying more attention than the past few seasons, but it feels like the last time I saw this many fights, it was like 10 or 15 years ago or something. I don't know. Maybe people are more angry.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Climate change is getting hotter out. I would also buy it that people are going, fights are down. I have an idea. You think so? Why don't you Google it right now? I'll look, but I don't know if there's numbers for them. How many, I bet that's on Google.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Could be. How many fights? Yeah, but is it real, though? How many fights have happened so far this NHL season and then do last season too? Yeah. Listen, two teams that are out of the playoffs. It's a tri-state rivalry matchup.
Starting point is 00:02:56 The goalies won at it. That's pretty fun. Dude, listen, I know I was just saying enough, but they are fun. I'll always take a goalie fight. At this point in the year, I've said many times, I am a fair weather fan, and if your team's bad, I don't expect you to be locked in. You don't need to be. You got other things to do. You have a life. Find other hobbies, people. When there is a barn full of Devils and Rangers fans, at this point in the season, with both teams are essentially mathematically eliminated for playoffs, pretty sick to get a goalie fight. You get a goalie fight. Those fans deserve it. What I thought was cool was, actually I thought a lot of things were cool. In the past, have you seen those clips of Chesty when there's kind of a scrum in front of the net? He goes into the goal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Because he's like, don't fucking... He goes into his turtle shit. Yeah, and I'm like, that's amazing. So in this one, Chesterste was kind of taking some shots. Sure. At a devil's player. And then Markstrom's like, I don't fuck with that. He comes all the way down.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Very cool to the fans. Also, the ref tries to stop him. Like, the ref is like literally going, he's like, hey. And Markstrom's like, whoop. And also, he's about to jump Chesty. And Chesterty's like, let me take my. I should have to do it. My helmet's on. And there was a moment where he took his helmet up. I was like, you're going to punch him before I even get set. It was, Marky was horny. Me too. And I love a horny. And that's great. That being said, Chesty, I kind of thought fed him a little bit. I agree. I think Chesty got the better of that fight. Because he was getting the jabs in. And then the big throws that Marky had kind of missed. And then he also got the takedown. It was just a whole, there was a whole ordeal. We saw Sway go against Vassie. We saw, who was it, Mersleikens who went against Bob? Who did Bob fight? Look that up for me.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I think it was Merslikens. But... It was this season, right? Yeah, yeah. And then we got now Markey going up against... Shisterkin. We've got Nadelcovich. Nadelcovich.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I knew it was one of the fun last night. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's 279 fights this season. Okay. And last season there was like 297. Okay. So I think it's actually going to be a little bit of... under last season.
Starting point is 00:04:58 It was going to be right there. This is actually, we're on fight watch. But hey, I didn't realize we're on fight. Way more goalie fights. Yep. And every no one knows that each goalie fight counts as 20. Ah, there we go. So we're above.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Bang. But we've got all the goalie fights have been Russian involvement. Very true, Dan. Very interesting. Shesty said he thought his first fight would be against Sorokin. Good or bad for the Russian movement. Mm. Bad.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Because all they do is war. War, war, war, war, war. War, war, war, war. We're Russians. We love war. We love fighting. War, war. Get a new schstick.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Okay. Calm down. Just relax. Yep. Then again, providing entertainment for the league. Good. Then again. Then again.
Starting point is 00:05:36 There's no fighting in Olympics. So what are you even bringing to the table? Yeah. Time to rethink your strategy, your war strategy. Anyway, shout out Marks from and Chesty. Thanks for doing it. And good job, Chesty. I would say that's a win and decision.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Agree. Wildcard update. Do you want to rip through the games like you did last episode? Yes. And let me react. Yep. Monday. The pens beat the aisles eight to three.
Starting point is 00:06:01 The pens are red hot. And listen, that's a big result. That's a big result. That was a big result. Three three. Remember we were recording? I was like, whoa, it's three three. Yeah, it was, I actually, I'm curious if people who watched the episode saw me
Starting point is 00:06:13 visibly react at one point I looked down, it was seven three pens. And I was like, I was almost like breaking news, by the way. But we were in the middle of something. The Knights beat the Canucks 4-2 in Torts' first game. Nothing Burger for me as far as the wildcard race, but very big for Mo Moe. Big burger in the Pacific race. For sure. And Torts, I thought there was a little transformation from the Knights between period one and two.
Starting point is 00:06:38 In two, he said, go score. And they were like this. Oh. We can do that? Okay. Great. That was big. The ducks lost to the Leafs.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Five, four, and overtime. Nothing Burger in the Pacific. I know it's still close in the Pacific, but I'm not phased by it because they still have that game in hand on Edmonton and Vegas. However, Mondo Berger for the Boston Bruins. Yes. Need the Toronto Maple Leafs to win the games. Dude, I have the safe thought.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Also, I will say this, and I love the ducklings, and I love, and I'm so excited for them, and I want them to win the Pacific. That, I haven't been a Pacific defender by any means, but I have been kind of like, well, leave the ducks out of this. They're fine. Sure. And then it's funny to watch a team who's, like, last place in the East, who's also trying to lose, beat the, I'm like, oh, the Pacific's horrible. Like, you. It's a tough look for the best. The Sharks beat the Blues 5-4.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Legitimately, hang around. Okay, sharks. I declared you dead. Yep. And obviously, I did not like to do that. I love the Sharks. And you're two points out of a spot. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:39 You're alive. Tuesday, the Bruins beat the Star 6'3. Are the Bruins in? Is it over? I think I'm not going to say that. I am. Every declaration I have made, actually, that's not true. Every declaration I've made is currently correct, but not securely direct.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I knocked the caps out of the playoffs. I'm not. and kick him down my door. I'm not going to make a declaration, but it will piggyback on something I tweeted. The way Boston has dropped their nuts on the table in these last 15 games is very impressive to see. I'll say it.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Or for me. You don't have to say anything for you. Bruins have made playoffs. That was a monster win. Bruins have made playoffs. Congratulations. Victor Arvison, one of the great pickups. There were a bunch of Oilers fans who were like this.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Thanks for taking that off our books, Boston, you idiots. And I'm like this, he's fantastic. How's 20 fucking two, three goals up your ass. Yeah. Fuck you. Dude, stick that in your pipe and smoke it and then stick the pipe between your cheeks and then puff it. Wait, out your mouth or out the pipe? Like you smoke it, blowing smoke rings with your butt.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And then you put the pipe in your butt and then you blow smoke rings with your butt out the pipe. Put your head up the butcher's ass. Yeah. And see a steak. Something like that. T-bone, yeah. If I'm going to see a T-bone, put my head up the bull's ass, something like that. Great movie.
Starting point is 00:08:53 The Isles lost to the savers 4-3. Big. Big. Isles struggling. No, but Isles are in third. Yep. The Habs beat the bolts 4-1. Habs are fucking buzzing. Absolutely on fire.
Starting point is 00:09:06 One six straight. They are, they are, they're firing. Yep. At the right time. Sends lost to the Panthers, 6-3. Just can't happen. Inexcusable loss. Also, Matthew, that's your brother.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. Wow, good point. What's wrong with you? Inexcus. He can't have any. anything? What's wrong with you, dude? Like you have the one year off. He can't have anything. Brutal. Pens beat the wings, 5-1. Completely completely unacceptable, but the pens, after getting a little leaky, are kind of surging,
Starting point is 00:09:39 and that was a game Detroit needed. Larkin back in the lineup. On the score sheet, he's been back in the lineup. But like, what I'm trying to say is, they need Larkin back. They need Larkin's playback. Here he was, getting on the score sheet immediately, but it wasn't enough. Caps beat the Flyers 6-4. Really funny. Yeah. Because Caps hanging around. Hanging around.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. And the Flyers, fuck, they battled back so many times in that game. Yeah. I thought they were going to tie it. I want to backtrack.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Detroit needs to win their next three straight games or they are officially on fraud watch permanently. Permanently. For the rest of their franchise existence? No, no, dude,
Starting point is 00:10:16 no, what happens is, and the people of Detroit don't want to hear this, but you drop the watch. Yeah. If you don't win these games, you are fraud.
Starting point is 00:10:22 You're not on fraud watch. You are fraud. The next three straight games need to be wins or you are frauds. Jackets lost to the Cains 5-2, brutal, but tough game. Yep. And the Jets beat the Hawks. Absolutely
Starting point is 00:10:33 insane that the Winnipeg Jets, the Jets of Winnipeg are a point out of a playoff spot. Who? The Jets? The Jets? I thought they folded the France. I thought they moved back to Atlanta. I said they were the worst
Starting point is 00:10:50 jets since 9-11. Now they're in here. They're in a player. They heard. they were very offended. They were incredibly offended. And that didn't even happen to their country. Stolen valor! Now they're just shoving it up my hoop.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Insane what the Jets are doing. That's awesome. Dude, we're going to make them a fucking... Never mind. No, we're not making that t-shirt, Chris. Wait, wait. This is where we're going to put the ad in for the t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Go ahead and you want you, Chris. This is where our ad for United Airlines comes in. And then the Spunk lost to the Oilers, Spunk might be dead. Spunk might be dead, and the Oilers... They're looking. Can you believe this? They won force rate for the first time all year. Songs? The Oilers lose dryside over the best team.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Songs Leon. They're unbelievable. Fucking crazy. Okay, standings, as of recording right now, in the East, the Habs are in third, 74 played 96 points. The Penns are in second in the Met. 75 played 92 points. Isles in third, 76 played 89 points. Penn's looking pretty good with that game in hand and the cushion. Wildcard 1, Bruins, 75. played 94 points. Wildcard two jackets, 75 played 88 points. Sends out
Starting point is 00:11:59 74 86. Wings out 74 86. Flyers out 7486. Caps out 7585. Every single one of these teams is in it. Yep. Every single one. In the West, and dude, the jackets are actually catching so many breaks.
Starting point is 00:12:15 They keep using and then the Sends, wings, and flyers are just like, we also lose. But you can make the argument everyone is. It's happening in the West, too, as you'll get into. Except for the bees. The bees, dropping nuts. aisles. And the haps, habs, habs, haps. Because the aisles, honestly, are third, but 7689, the blue jacket's 7588 with that game in hand. Like, the aisles are jumping on thin ice. In the west, Vegas, third of the Pacific, 7582. Utah, wildcard one, 74, 82. Preds Wildcard 2, 74, 77. Kings out 73, 76. Jets out 74, 76. Sharks out 72, 755. That 72 is awesome. Spunk.
Starting point is 00:12:53 out 73 75. Everyone's in it, including the spunk. Okay. I do want to say this, and this is a message to Kings fans and to the LA Kings team. The fact that the Kings vibes are quite low right now, and I think a lot of Kings players are like fucking, damn it, Christ, we've lost a bunch of games we can't lose, and you still control your own destiny. You win the one game in hand you have.
Starting point is 00:13:18 You are in the playoffs. It's incredible. That is a great feeling. Use that. Use that. Channel it, channel it, channel it, channel it. Spunk's very much in, actually. Sharks very much in. Sharks actually... Everyone's in. Sharks are like in the driver seat. Yeah, I mean, if you consider the fact that the sharks have only played 72 games.
Starting point is 00:13:35 So actually, Dan, the kings don't. I thought the kings control their own destiny. The sharks do. They actually don't. The sharks control your own destiny. It's just so many games. It's three, like, one win is different than three straight wins. But yeah, but it's only two. It's two. Yeah. So it's like, that's actually interesting. I was kind of listening here. One win is less than two. That is true. And two is less than two. and two is less than three. But the sharks right now control their own destiny
Starting point is 00:13:56 for the wild card too. Yeah. That's amazing. So yeah, wow, fucking hell. I was kind of like, man, the boys are in trouble, but they're not.
Starting point is 00:14:02 They're fine. They're not. Well, they're not fine. I don't have time to go through their schedule, but I really want to. Okay. That is the wild card race. Things continue to be drunk as hell,
Starting point is 00:14:11 and then every time we get these two-day breaks, no one really pulls ahead. Yep. It's unbelievable. All right, let's talk OV real quick. 30 goals last night. 20th time in 21 season. Fourth player in NHL history to score 30 goals at the age of 40 or older,
Starting point is 00:14:27 joining Gordy Howe, Johnny Bucick, and T. Mussolani. Unbelievable. Very sick. Gordy Howe 44 is awesome. Or 44 is so dope. Only being in his 40s, tuck in 30 yet again, and then showing up for the team bus with Subway, Sub and Cheetos in hand. Slamin hot Cheetos.
Starting point is 00:14:48 He is just such an embodiment of. good for hockey. Yep. That image. It's up on ice is ready right now. He's good for hockey. Did you just read this Gretzky thing or no? I did not.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I saw that it was like, if you count a 77 playoff goals, Ovi has 1,05 total NHL goals just behind Gretzky, who has 1,016. And if the caps get in, he could break it. I don't think he can break it. I don't think he can break it and will. And if he plays next year, which he will. Likely. I'm declaring right now OV is playing next year.
Starting point is 00:15:19 But it's just hilarious that like Wayno, just. can't, he's like, all right, dude. Like, you, you got it. It's a never-ending onslaught of breaking my score. I'm a fucking break. But congrats, Ovi, that's sick because after the start he had this year, I was like, oh, wow, he really was just chasing that record and then doesn't give a fuck. It's true.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And he does give a fuck. He do. He do give a fuck. He gives many fucks. Okay, little trophy chase update. Yeah, talk to me. I, and you, but I have been stroking off Cooch the last month as I'm like, Here comes the Cooch five points a night on slot.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Sure. Every year and then he wins the Art Ross and then it's all over. But he has slowed down a bit and so have the bolts. And McDavid has passed him. McDavid's 125 to 121. Cooch still has seven less games, but Art Ross doesn't care about how many fucking games you played. It's how many points you have.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And now Nate's at 120, four more games than Cooch, three less than Connor. I, two weeks ago was like Cooch is winning this MVP in a landslide. But now I don't feel that's the case. What do you think? I don't think it's the case at all. This has been, it is so weird that stat I showed you that is like the league rankings, Cup winners of the last 10 years, they are always in this and that. And the only team in the league that is in top five and everything is Tampa.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That, including Colorado, the only team is Tampa. That is when I'm like, they are the best team in the East and they are a cup favorite. They probably are going to the Cup. I have never seen a streakier cup favorite type of team. It's insane. And the fact that Cooch is streaky as well. I'm like, what is going on here? So I don't think it's a lock at all.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I think he is insane. And frankly, Christopher, I'm going to sit here and say, let Connor get the Art Ross. And you cool off a little bit here so you can be hot in the playoffs for the first time since you want to come. Oh, okay. That's interesting. How about that? Would you give it to Connor and eight right now? MVP?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. I'll tell you what. I'm going to maintain what I've maintained all season long. If those Sharkies win these two games and they get themselves into playoffs, I'm giving it to Macklin and it's not even a question. Actually, he deserves it. Maclin-Colabrini is only 16 years old. And he deserves it more than Connor and Nate right now with the way, and everyone beaked me there. I was like, the FF stink. And everyone was like, you're an idiot. And I was like, I know the abs don't stink. The fact that there was a single comment on, I think it was on YouTube that was like, yeah, the fact that you could say the, are you fucking kidding me. Do you know what? The abs don't. Hyperbole, sarcasm, and joking is. I'm talking about blowing pipe smoke out of a butt hair. Relax.
Starting point is 00:17:59 With the way the abs have cooled off and with the entire season that the Oilers have had would like playing, they're in the worst division of all time and they're in fucking second. If the sharks make the playoffs, and even if they fucking don't. No, no, they have to make the playoffs. If they make the playoffs. If they make the playoffs, dude, he is the MVP. It's not even a question. Let me ask you a question really quick.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yep. Rapid fire. And then we're going to move on. Have we talked this year about Connor MacDavid? At all? Yes. Just rapid fire. Nikita Kutrov.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yes. Nathan Kavana. Yes. Macon Selabini. Yes. Leon Dysidle. Yes. David Posternak.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yes. Nick Sizuki. Yes. Yes. Jason Robertson. Yes. You know who I haven't talked about? Who?
Starting point is 00:18:34 Marty Nachis. Oh, dude. And Marty Nachis has 92 points tied for seventh in the league. And we don't need to spend a lot of time in it, but we just like to give some double wresters. I gave, you know who has been one of the best players in the league since the Olympic break? Marty Natchez. Nikolai Eilers.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Oh, God. Who last night, his three points matched his career high. He is fucking buzzing. Marty Natchis on the Colorado Avalanche is buzzing. Dude, I was watching those highlights that Scotty sent of the cadre goals against the flames. And that Natchez, it's been a great play by the car too, but the one touch from Natchez across. Like, he is so not out of his depth on that team. Obviously not on that team, but just when he goes out there with these megastars, he's like, I am,
Starting point is 00:19:17 I am right here. I belong out here completely. He is fucking gross. He is capital E. Elite. 35 goals, 57. It says 92 points. That's such a fucking season, dude.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Plus 45. He's got, what? How many games do they play? He's got like eight games to square eight points and get 100 points. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Noddy by Natchez.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yes. I like that a lot. I should put that on a shirt. There you go. That is a fucking shirt, Ed. There you go. That's someone who doesn't have cancer.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Yeah. That's an idea from a cancer-free person. No, the cancer is giving me these ideas. Yeah, yeah, that's the radiation talk. The cancer is actually channeled into his brain and is giving him good ideas. We don't want to talk about what that's going to happen to turn it to later. For now, it's great. That's the radiation dog.
Starting point is 00:19:58 We're having great hallucinations. Norris, we had talked about this earlier. Bushard is up to 86 points, Wrenski at 78, McCarr at 75. The Orwell still have seven games left. Yeah. If Bush pushes that into mid-90s, he is going to win it, just so you know. I know. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever. think Evan Bouchard is having a better season than Zach Wrenski. You give him 150 points, I would still say he's not as good as Werenz. No, I agree. Werenzky should win it. And also, Prongers has something in the day that he was like, Dahlene is getting my vote, which I love. Love that. Also, a lot of people, I said this the other fucking day, dude, Charlie McAvoy is in this
Starting point is 00:20:37 conversation. It's been a best line. I said he is at the top of the list. And again, I'm sorry, are you good at stopping the other team's best players? Yeah. Because that's what you fucking should do. as a defenseman. And some of the guys who get mentioned in this conversation are not good at that. Spare me with your fucking lame-ass saber metrics graphic about like, well, actually, they're one of
Starting point is 00:20:58 the best defensemen. No, they're fucking not. When push comes to shove, when some of these players are turning into spinning dreidels on the ice, I am not going to sit here and go, they're great at defense. I know that can happen to anybody. Yep. Yep. But he is going to win. That matters to me. That matters to me. Yes. And it doesn't matter to the Norris voters. Because clearly, he will win. And frankly, if he gets to 90, what's his career high? I don't want to spend any more time on this. I think it's 92 points. God, if that is right, you are so fucking deranged.
Starting point is 00:21:30 His career high is 82. So maybe you had something in the brain. So he has passed his career high. Yeah, firing did. Good for you. Yep. And he's a phenomenal player. If he gets mid-90s, they are going to give him that trophy.
Starting point is 00:21:43 The Calder is going to Shafe Daddy no matter what. but I will just wanted to say shout out Demidoff from the parking lot he now leads rookies that was very cool Beckett and Schaefer he's at 58 Beckett and Schaefer right there at 57 and the Schaefer's winning literally no matter what if the islanders fall all the way out of the playoffs that will be canon fodder for debate but it doesn't matter he's going to win Oldhead take by me I don't like how people can win the Calder when they have played in the NHL the season prior it doesn't matter how few games I don't like it I kind of agree with that. But what if it was
Starting point is 00:22:17 yes games? The game allowance is wicked high. It's too high. Yeah. Because I agree it sucks that certain players don't even get a chance to win rookie the year when they show up for playoffs. I'm like, they're a rookie. But I don't like it. I just shorten up that game allowance. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. That would be okay.
Starting point is 00:22:34 All right. We are actually, I had this thought, this is so random, but what did we get, it's April Fool's today as we're recording. What did we do last year? An episode came out on April Fool's and we did something. OVy retiring, I believe. Oh, maybe that was it. We got some fuckers.
Starting point is 00:22:47 People were in the comments like, what the fuck? And we were like, April Fools in a fucking bitch. And guess what? You thought you weren't going to get again? Yeah. Alec Martinez is not on this episode. No, I'm just kidding. He totally is.
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Starting point is 00:23:53 10 Gs and bonus bet split. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Sign it for bet MGM right now, make it legendary. Well, well, well, well, we are joined today by a Rochester Hills native, the 95th overall pick in the 2007 draft to the LA Kings, who also played for the Vegas Golden Knights and the Chicago Blackhawks, a world champion. bronze medalist, a three-time Stanley Cup champion, and a man who has to be the only player at NHL history to finish his accounting degree while playing in the league. Alec Martinez, welcome to the Edg.a. Huge nerd. Of all the crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Of all the crazy shit, dudes who have been on the show have done, that might be number one. That might be number one. It was awful, too. What possessed you to do that? I made a promise to my parents. Like I yeah good answer like going into my good answer going into my junior year I was like I was drafted and I was like I just want to have a good enough year where I'm presented with a tough decision yeah and like do I sign or come back I ended up signing and it's like my parents were great they're like we support you either way just you have to promise to finish and like I'm 19 or 20 and it's like I'm staring down the barrel of the NHL contract I'm like oh yeah finish school like no problem mine only got a year left and then I went back like my first couple years pro like in the summer and took classes but it's like man trying to wrap your head around like trying to write a paper
Starting point is 00:25:24 I can't I cannot imagine Marty I was a accounting major so I was in like the business school so like any writing that I did that last two years of school was all like business writing like short and to the point and then I go back and I have to like fill in all these bullshit electives and like I'm taking like family studies and I got to write like an eight-page paper and trying to get my mind after like just coming off a pro season and to like write about the importance of like adolescent development. I'm like, what am I doing here? So anyway, and then we had and then we had, you know, a few runs there that like it was either like,
Starting point is 00:26:01 oh, okay, like play in the Stanley Cup playoffs or sign up for a summer summer course. Obviously like I'm going to go back to school. No, but and so then, so then I ended up, it was like, I realized that I had like misread my like audit report or whatever and I was closer than I thought after just like slowly chipping way. I actually took beginners in advanced ice hockey. No way. A couple good credits together. But I wasn't there. I basically just paid and then they're like they basically gave me like an independent study.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Yeah. And I'm like, do you want me to like take a test? and the guy's like, are you kidding me right now? Like, you're playing in the NHL. Like, I think you're good. And so I was actually in that class with Riley Smith. No way. Without ever being there.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah, without ever being there. Oh, that's so funny. And he said, like, they would say my name and roll call every once in a while and he just start dying. Yeah. And be like, yeah, no, dog. That guy's like. But I also love how he had the same idea.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah. He was like, I'll snatch it. Yeah, nice independent study credit. Yeah, I took beginners in advanced ice skating, too. Funny thing is I actually had to drop it when I was in school because I had a foot problem. Yeah. Failed. He's got can't skate.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I failed on ice skating. No, I had to actually drop it. But yeah, so after like I guess 13 years to the day I walked in my freshman year, I ended up finishing. And I had like my accounting degree. I had one last class who was financial audit. And I did like an independent study where I would talk to the professor and he wrote the book. Actually that they used. So it was great.
Starting point is 00:27:37 But he was great. Shout out Dr. Reffitt. He was great dude, Andrew Ruffett. And so I just talked in like, I don't know, I'd read like two, three chapters and then we'd chat for like an hour and a half. And then I had to take the exam. And I actually, it was like the last game before Christmas break. And we flew up to San Jose.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And all the guys like knew that I was taking the test. But the thing was they were like so strict about proctoring exams. Like anyone walks in the shot. Like no cheat. I had to take my laptop and like turn it around the whole. and like under my desk. So I didn't have like a cheat sheet. Sure.
Starting point is 00:28:13 They took it really serious and the guys knew that. So I'm like, I know these guys are going to try to like get in my room and like sabotage me. So I get just get a goose egg. They get in a window behind holding up all the answers. Yeah, exactly. And so I went up there. I must have checked that deadbolt like 10 times because I was like, I know the boys are going to mess with me. And yeah, so we flew up there.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And before dinner, I signed in and I took the exam. and shut the laptop. And I'm like, all right, I'm done. And so I went down to the hotel lobby and ordered a steak and a glass of wine. And then Dr. Reffick called me. He's like, congrats, man. That day?
Starting point is 00:28:50 You just got your degree. Yeah. Dude. Best do you. Holy shit. That's amazing. So, yeah. So I actually, I think I might have been, like,
Starting point is 00:28:58 sitting at the bar with, like, tie. Because it was just an easy, like, go grab dinner quick. And, yeah. And so then that was, that was it. And they wanted me to, like, walk and stuff and I'm like no I'm good like the guy the 30 year old that's like walking with all the
Starting point is 00:29:16 21 year olds I'm like yeah Van Wilder is a great flick yeah not me yeah also after almost a decade in the national or more than a decade in the national too you're like so I'm gonna just grab my degree get out of here I'm good do they sent it to you you got it oh yeah I got it like frame I actually don't know where it is now might be at my in-laws here after getting traded and moving around Like, I just got, yeah, I got, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You got to send that to the parents. Promise fulfilled. Yeah, it's actually a true, dude. But that was the thing. Okay, so like my parents, I was so, I was so fed. Yeah, I was so fed up with them asking me, like, when are you getting your degree? When you, and I just like, I think one time I just snapped on them and then they stopped asking me. So when I was doing this, I didn't tell them.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And so then at Christmas, actually, because that was right before Christmas, I went on like, Google sheets or Google Docs, and I made this, like, bullshit degree and put the cursive Miami University, and then I put it in a shoebox, and I wrapped it for my parents. They were, like, crying. Dude, they must have lost their minds. Yeah, so they were pretty fired up. But I was like, yeah, see, like, if you just leave me alone about it for once, like, I'll actually get it done. That is awesome. That is awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I'm also picturing Marty at his, at his cup party. His dad's drinking a beer out of the cup. He's like, when are you getting that degree? Yeah, exactly. I'm like, can you please just... Come on, dude. But, yeah, no, I was like, I'm glad I got it done, right? And it's like, now that I have kids, like, I can actually say that I did it and it sucked, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I made a promise I had to keep it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. Well, I mean, it sounds like you had a great time at Miami, Ohio. You had three awesome years. All-first team, 0-7-08 when you were there, game-winning goal against Michigan to snap a 20-game losing streak for Miami. Unbelievable. how did you land on Miami, Ohio?
Starting point is 00:31:09 So I actually, well, like growing up in Michigan, like I always watch like the GLI. Yeah, yeah. Michigan, Michigan State, all that. And you're surrounded by college hockey. Oh, my God, it's amazing. Yeah, yeah. Programs or something like that in Michigan. And I kind of always knew that that was what I wanted to do, like, in terms of, like, junior or that.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Like college, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then Miami was. always like I we had a family friend who went there not for hockey or anything but I was just aware of it and then I got to know Jeff Blaschell at the time now he's like head coach in Chicago and he's basically like if I have three mentors throughout my I'll call it like well I guess throughout my career he's that were like a big reason of why I had the career that I had was he was one of them yeah and so he's a Michigan guy but I actually
Starting point is 00:32:05 I played like Select Festival with him. And that was back when they still did districts. And now it's just like a jumble. So we were on Team Michigan and we ended up winning the whole thing and saying Cloud, which was super fun and playing with a bunch of Michigan guys and your buddies. But our two coaches were Jeff Blashell and John Cooper.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Oh no way. Which is hilarious. So maybe that's why we weren't any good. We just had like sick coaching. Two of the great coaches. Yeah. Yeah. And so I got to know Blash then.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So I've known him since I was like 15 or 16. And then he was at Miami and he recruited me there. And he was kind of just, it always felt like a good fit. And I actually, like my dream school growing up was Michigan. State had already, like now it's normal, but state at the time it committed so many D-Men early. Oh, yeah. Like Brandon Gentile, Ryan Turrick, like names that no one listening or watching would ever remember way back then. because they're just not old enough.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I'm dating myself big time. And no disrespect to those two guys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was a long time ago. But, yeah, and I like, and then Michigan started recruiting me, and then they just, they, like, ghosted me before ghosting was like a thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah. And so, and I even called them because they were like, I don't know, reaching out to me a fair amount. And they wanted me to go on a visit. and I was just like, all right, well, I'm going to make a decision soon. And yeah, just Billy Powers just dusted me. And that's all right. I went to Miami and I kicked their ass anyway. I was going to say, fucking, shubbed it up there.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Yeah, yeah. So then we had some good battles with Michigan. But, yeah, and it just always seemed like the good fit. Like I liked it. It was great. It was like close to home without being too close to home. Yeah, I'd do that so deep. Like four or five hours.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Which such a good factor. Yeah. And then it was just like, it's one. one of those things where you just you end up exactly where you're meant to be and that was it. Like Miami was awesome. My best friend, we had a huge class. I think we had like a nine or ten guys, maybe 11 guys. But there's some of my best friends still.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And we talk all the time. So yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. Miami's like, especially when we were good, like it was a sick place to be. We were a number one sport on campus. Oh, for sure. People camping out like on Monday. for our series against Michigan, you know, obviously starting on Friday.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Like that's so, that's sick. It was sick. Yeah. Like we would stop by, like I'd be walking a practice or like going to class and there's literally students camped out in tents like at at Goggin outside of Goggins. And like, are they saying what's up to you? Like they see you and they're like, oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And we'd stop in and be like, yo, you guys need anything? Like you want me to run into the dining? Unzipped their tent? Yeah, yeah. You need a swipe? Like, you need a swipe in the dining hall? Like what do you need? Do you want a meal?
Starting point is 00:35:03 bring it out to you. Do you guys have class? Yeah, exactly. I'm like, who's in, they would always, like, rotate. You know, like, someone would go, you would have someone there. If you, like, lose your tent.
Starting point is 00:35:12 If there's no one there, they do a check, you like, lose your spot. It's crazy. Well, dude, you, you know, talked about being a good team. You guys made the tournament every year you were there. But you kind of had a BC, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:24 A hundred percent. I mean. Those guys ended, ended every year in my college career. Literally every year. Ended my college career. Yeah. Lost first round year one.
Starting point is 00:35:33 You beat you, H, year two, then lose round two. You beat Air Force New Year 3. Thanks for the reminder. Oh yeah, we're going through it. Yeah, let's go through it. Yeah, cool. We talked about your kids in college being in their future. They're not going to BC. No chance. No Eagles
Starting point is 00:35:48 in this family. What if they're like, we love Boston. It's such a beautiful city. Tough break. Don't give a shit. You better get a scholarship because I am paid. Yeah, study up, you're going to Harvard. Exactly. You're going to anywhere. There's a lot of pro. What is there? 60-7. Yeah, we talked about a lot of colleges.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Boston's got plenty of them. Your junior year, were you like, are you fucking kidding me when you went up against them? Yeah, did you want them? It was, fuck. I wanted them, but it was like, and I guess it's like a hot topic right now with like the seeding and where they should be
Starting point is 00:36:20 and all that. I'm not like super in tune with it, but I've seen a lot of like, you know, kerfuffle about it, but it just sucked because it was like we were the one seed. Like we squeaked in my sophomore year, but like we were the one seed both my my freshman and junior year and it's like we pulled BC in the Boston era in like the New England bracket like Manchester we played them in yeah well we
Starting point is 00:36:49 played them in Manchester the second time but we pulled them in was it in Worcester the other two times and I'm like what like yeah come on like yeah and so at least because I think at that time there was one of the years there might have been a brashire in Dayton. Oh, right. Yeah, and not that we would have like, not that we would have pulled like a huge following, but it's like we meet Boston and Boston as a one seed. Like, come on now. Those first two rounds should be home ice. The frozen floor. Without question. You should have hosted those. It is one of the biggest frustrations with Kalachockey. It's like all of these neutral cities are such a waste. And they do it in basketball. I'm not saying it's. No, but it's because the conversation is you want to grow college hockey. You got to show it to people on TV with mass. insane fandom at the games because it's like you have all these games at yost for example if you don't have big 10 network no one is seeing those crowds so it's like you should be able to show that when it's finally on ESPN you know when it's in fucking where are they this year uh like wuster again who cares who cares it's true i don't know it's just random ass rinks like omaha it's oh my
Starting point is 00:37:55 no disrespect Omaha but it's like it's always oh i love playing that rings awesome yeah what i'm saying like unless yeah it's just what it's just what it's a game of like Michigan versus Bentley, it doesn't need to be in Omaha, you know? What are we doing? Fuck, dude. That's insane. It's insane. But yeah, you're not going to have the kids go to BC in the time soon. No, but I mean, hell, I don't care if they want to, then so be it. But I'll just try to gently steer them elsewhere. Yeah, correct. And that's the thing. Like, I don't give a shit. Yeah. I have no ill will to BC. Great games. It's part of the great experience. Cool logo, I guess. I don't know. Like cool jerseys. good for you guys.
Starting point is 00:38:32 They're not in the tournament this year. Were you, yeah, right. Got it. Were you rattled when the boys went to the natty to next year? No, I was fired up for them. And, like, it was weird because I had just gotten hurt maybe like a game or two before that. And so I wasn't even playing that game. So I was like not, it was the last game of the season in Manch.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And I wasn't, like, I was watching the boys, right? Yeah. Like, I was in the gym and the TV was on. And I'm like, oh my God, they're going to, like, they're going to do it. This is awesome. And but, you know, it's like always jersey off your back night. Yeah. And so I walked out, like hobbled out in my knee brace and like did the jersey off my back thing. And it was like, well, I guess there was like two minutes left and they were up.
Starting point is 00:39:21 And I'm like, they just won the national championship. And then, and then I do the jersey off my back night, sign it, whatever. I come back in. and I'm like, oh my God, they're an O T. Like, what happened? Yeah. What two minutes did I miss? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And then they lose, you know, and it's like, I don't know, me and my, like Jeff Zackoff, he is my best buddy. I've grown up with him. I played with him at legit every level, which is pretty cool. That's awesome. Like youth hockey, we played against each other in junior, but then we roomed together in college, played in the minors, played in the NHL together. and he left with me as well, signed with L.A.
Starting point is 00:40:03 He's actually, I think, the reason why I was drafted by L.A. because he was drafted the year before me. And I think they were just out there to scout him and follow up on their prospect, and then they ended up seeing me. Huge. But, yeah, we left. We left, yeah, shout out Jeff Zach off.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yeah, my boy. But, yeah, it was crazy that they lost. I feel bad. Oh, he's fucking brutal. And, like, yeah, and I just don't, I don't bring it up. to the boys. Yeah, yeah. But I was, I'd like to think that like some of them I've been able to return the favor like because that core group I've had out like I've had buddies at each time I won.
Starting point is 00:40:42 So that's pretty cool. So like that's so awesome. Yeah. To actually well one of them has been to two or two of them have been to two. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. But between the between the cup parties and and stuff like that I'd like to think that they. Three. David. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To be clear, if those BC losses had been national championships, I wouldn't have brought it. Oh, God. No, no, no, no, no. Insane. Well, speaking of winning, let's get into some King stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:10 That 2012 run, you guys come in as the eight seat. And that first round, you get the wagon, Canucks, President's Trophy team that year. And then you dummy them, 4-1, up 3-0. Obviously, we see upsets in hockey more than some of these other sports, and you can beat anyone on a given night. But do you remember what the attitude was going into that series? because they were so heavily favored. Were you guys just like nothing to fucking lose? You know, like what was the vibe going into that series?
Starting point is 00:41:35 I don't know. We kind of like, we hit lightning in a bottle. Like, Quicky was insane. Like, it's one of the most unbelievable runs of all time. I've never seen like a display of goaltending like that ever in my life. And even since. And like he was sick in 14 too. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Or his entire life. Yeah. But like he was like that run, he was making saves that like, no, No human, like not even hockey player, but like no human had any business making, right? Correct. And dude, that fires up the bench so much. Oh yeah. Well, it's like, yeah, you feed off that.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And everyone like, everyone wants to talk about like, oh, do you change your game when you got this guy? And it's like, no, you don't change your game, but it does give you like this air of confidence where you're like, all right, you know, like, we know we're good back there. Like we got to take care of our shit up here. And so, but yeah, it was like, you know, going into that, I also think I was like, I was, was I like 20, 23, 24? And I was like young and dumb.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Like I don't know like, it was like, you're like, I'm not changing my game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like obviously you know how good they are, but yeah, and you know, they lose in game seven the year prior. And it's like they're the perennial powerhouse over those course of, you know, a couple years. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:54 We just like, it was weird. Like we sprinted through that. playoffs like dude it's nuts the the store we went what 16 and four and we didn't lose a game on the road until the final correct yeah i think you went up 3 o in every series in every series yeah it was and so like i remember sitting there after we won and i'm like all right i just want a stanley cup this is incredible but like did i really get the playoff experience because i was up every game three nothing and i'm like man and then you know 14 rolls around and it's pretty much the complete opposite.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah. Yeah, but, but yeah, I don't, with, with Vancouver, it was just, I don't know, we, the other thing, too, it gets played up that we were the eight seed a lot. Yeah. But like, I think it was something, don't quote me on this, but it's like, if we would have won one of the last like two or three games of the year, we would have been in third. Correct. And we're facing Chicago.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yep. When, didn't Phoenix knock them off? Yes, because you played them in the conference final. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, it was a very tight. tight group points wise for sure. And do you know what's funny you're talking about Quickie's performance?
Starting point is 00:44:03 The year before that was Timmy in Boston and it was like we did it two years in a row where it was like we have unconscious goaltending performances going on here. And it almost like that felt like the standard for a second. It was nuts. But dude you just mentioned it round two, you sweep the blues who are the two seed.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Round three play the three seed yotes gentlemen sweep them. And it's like at this point this quickie performance is going on, but you are no stranger to Quickey after rooming with him in the minors. Guys sleeping through his alarm every night. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Oh, yeah. Literally pulling him out of bed. Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Talk about that for a second. If he ever gets like labrum repair surgery or something, it's probably me yanking him so hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So it was funny. This was, we were up in, we flew up to Winnipeg and this was before the Jets had come back. Yeah. And we were playing the moose. And I'm dating myself here, but we pull in, it's also, well, I won't say that. Well, to be clear, you're in good company. We're all the same age. So you're in good company.
Starting point is 00:45:09 No, I know, but I was going to kind of bag on Canada for saying that they were still, you know, doing the wall phone. Yeah. And like the, but. It's one. It's fine. But no, so we get up there and someone calls the room. And it's just like, you see that phone. Like in between the bed, I'm like.
Starting point is 00:45:27 pay me to answer that for me. Yeah, and I'm like, so I answer him like, hello? And he's like, this is Ron Hextall. And I'm thinking like, am I getting called up? He's like, is Quicky there? And I'm like, damn, yeah, but obviously half. You're like, no. Yeah, yeah, no, he's not. But you need a defenseman, you know, like, need a D man right now? And no, and so anyways, we had just gotten into the hotel and so he was getting called up the following morning. And so we were like, you are not, Because you guys know Quiky's history and all that asleep. And we were like, you are not sleeping through this alarm. So we must have, like, when I say I'm dating myself, like, we set probably like three wake-up calls with the hotel.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Like, they were probably like, what's the deal here? Like, you know, and then set every alarm on our phone and all that. And he had like, I think he had to get up at like 5 or 6 a.m. To make like a 7, 8 o'clock flight back to L.A. And then he never came back. Wow. Yeah. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:46:23 And, but yeah, I always. laugh about that. And we have a good laugh about it when we catch up. But yeah, so it was, yeah, I guess I'm basically responsible for Yeah, you did this. No. It did this. Zero cups for the Kings without Martin.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Is he snoozing and then just like not, like what? No, he's just a heavy sleeper. Yeah, so he doesn't wake up to the first. Yeah, he just doesn't, yeah. So it's you wake up and then you have to get up and be like, dickhead, wake up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. Unbelievable. But no, he's such
Starting point is 00:46:55 awesome dude and all the best i mean speaking of like like hockey being poetic like coming back around and then we'll get to that later but yeah i i can't even talk yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he was i mean he was lights out i mean the reason why he won the cons smite yeah nasty so heading into that cup and chris you know you can jump into the cup itself but like i know you were young in in this first one but this was not unfamiliar to you seeing him play like this right like where you kind of like this guy. I mean, obviously it was a nuclear performance, but you must have kind of known, like, that he has this end of it. And where the boys talk, like, you don't want a picture throwing a no head or everyone's just like, don't speak. Where the boys being like, yo,
Starting point is 00:47:37 Quicky, you're fucking out of your mind. I mean, it's kind of like, yeah, you're just going about your business. Like, I know it sounds like so cliche, but like really in that, like, there's so many momentum swings throughout like a series or even just a game or, you know, and it's like, I always like in like playoffs are like such this like emotionally revved up environment, but you don't really realize it until you come down from it. You know, and you're like, holy shit, like, whoa. You know, like, and it's, you know, I've been lucky to, it's over beers after winning, which would be, it's a lot easier to, you know, come down from than being on the wrong side of it.
Starting point is 00:48:16 But, but yeah, it's just, I guess like, I mean, We were all aware of his performance, but it was kind of like, well, we're all trying to do our job. And like, yeah, he's nasty. But everyone just keep, yeah, it's just like, yeah, don't, don't like change anything. Yeah, exactly. Don't mess or else.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Yeah, don't mess with it. And so, but yeah, I mean, it was also like a long time ago. So I was sitting here like trying to rack my brain. Like, oh, man. But that was like, what, 14 years ago? Crazy. Okay, well, when you get to that cup, I kind of have two questions. One, when you go up three oh again, was it nearly impossible?
Starting point is 00:48:51 to not be like, we've won, like we are dominating. And then the follow-up is when they win two, are you like, oh, fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like everyone, you know, always hear like the canned answer, like, you just gotta focus on the next night,
Starting point is 00:49:04 but it's like, we're all human beings. Like, it's human nature to think like, oh, do we, do we have this thing? Like, are we, and I remember, like, thinking, like, wow, this is a real possibility, but you're fighting that the entire time, right? Right, right? Like, mentally. And, and by no means, I mean, Jersey was,
Starting point is 00:49:21 like even though we met and no disrespect a van, but like they obviously were the president's trophy, but like we all said that we thought Jersey was like the best team that we had faced. And, I mean, they were really good.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I mean, especially like you look at that game one, like, it was OT twice, right? Yeah, the first two games. First two games. And it could have gone either way, but, um, but yeah, so like, uh,
Starting point is 00:49:46 I lost my train of thought here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, I really did fuck what were your questions I was saying did you feel like you won you said you were fighting it
Starting point is 00:50:02 and then you were like we thought they're the best team and you look at that roster oh yeah yeah yeah oh okay yeah yeah and so like you really are like thinking about that but you're you're trying to fight it at the same time like we always so like going forward to game five when we end up or six when we ended up winning it's like we're up five to
Starting point is 00:50:22 one was it five to one or five to two or something and i remember mac green scored like this knuckler from the point and it was like the game was already done but like this whole time like well i guess skedary gets hit right yeah yeah and then like we go up on the pot we score two and like we're up but you're fighting that the entire time like in game because you're like all right and and quickie has talked about this where he's like sitting in net he's like all right we're up by three but like if they get a quick one yeah yeah and then they get a quick one after that this is a different getting you know and you're trying to suppress that yeah and so then so then I ended up greener scores that goal and I like sprinted over him and like jumped into him to celebrate and it was like after the
Starting point is 00:51:05 fact I felt like such a dickhead because it was like in front of their bench that was the sixth goal but it gives like an idea of where my head was at because the whole time you're thinking like all right we're up but this is like a zero zero game zero zero game and you're trying to fight that the whole time So kind of the same way with the series, you're trying to fight the human element of it. And it's like, for sure. I can't let my mind get any further than I'm like, am right now. And it's also, if there's ever a time to celebrate a sixth goal, it's the Stanley Cup final. Like you can't be like, oh, no, we're fine.
Starting point is 00:51:41 It's like you're playing presumably the other best team in the league. You've got to keep it rip it. But they were, I mean, they were really, really good. I mean, some of the names on that other side, like Covalchuk and was Socoran on that team? Eliosh was on that team. Some of the Danis Zubris, like Marty Broder. Like, and Colin Frazier breaking open the series
Starting point is 00:52:03 and scoring a five-hole goal on Broder. But yeah, it was just, it was wild. Yeah. Thinking back at it. God, and you were so young, dude. Yeah, just young and dumb. You know, like, I don't know. Was that day with a cup?
Starting point is 00:52:16 Unreal. Yeah, it was a hot. I mean, my three were all awesome in their own way. Like different. Like my cup days were different. Like I was a single guy the first time. So it was just the boys. And then-
Starting point is 00:52:31 Did you go back home? Yeah, I had the second one I had a girlfriend at the time. And some of my buddies had gotten married. So it was like the girls were invited that time. And then nine years after that, like it was kids and like family. So it was like, Cooley is cool, but just, yeah, the chapters of my life. Yeah, yeah, so hopefully I went another one and I'll be in a walker. Yeah, it's funny. And that's actually like a walker's like what a month away. Yeah, I was going to say. A couple more surgeries, dude. Jesus Christ. But yeah, no, it was, it was a wild run, especially like 16 and 4 like, it's crazy. It's so crazy. It's a great comment that you said earlier where it's like, did I even get this playoff experience? Because you did it in a way. You know, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 So I'm like, I'm saying it's fantasy land. I didn't, I didn't, I'm like, I didn't play game seven. I didn't, you know, do all that stuff. And yeah, I don't know. It was, well, in 14. Yeah, yeah, here comes. Yeah. Well, in 14, just a couple of years later, beginning is as opposite as it gets, going up against the sharks.
Starting point is 00:53:36 You go down O3. Yeah. I need to know, having been so recently from the last cup run, when you were down O3 against this great team with, you want to talk about rosters, Jesus Christ. that sharks group. Having just done it and just been an eight seed and just outperforming, winning so many games in a row, did that bleed into the conversations in the locker room in this year and in this particular matchup? Or was it totally new year, totally new day? And you were like, doesn't matter. Let's just go play game four and see what happens. Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I think it's one of
Starting point is 00:54:10 those things where like you can't live in the past, but you have to be able to ride on your experience. Yeah. You know, like we had gone through that. before, or not, we'd gone through the run before. Like we knew, like that core group, we knew what it took. And we had a few different pieces, right? Sure. Because you have to. But shout out that 70s line.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah, I know Ty's been on here a few times. And Pierce. But, but yeah, it's like, it's this weird balance where like, yeah, you just, you can't live in the past, but then you also have to be able to like, hey, we know what we need to do. And obviously starting out down three is. not the way to start a playoff. Especially in San Jose, I mean, they were,
Starting point is 00:54:52 they were nasty and that, like, that building was something else. Like, Shark Tank was rocking the low ceiling. Oh, my God. And, uh, it was a, it was a fun environment to play in. But yeah, like, crazy that, and we just, I remember I,
Starting point is 00:55:08 you guys are familiar, like Manhattan Beach. It was, we, we came back down 03 and we had like the day off and my family was in town. So we went in between games. and we went to Uncle Bill's pancake. Yes, dude. And I, great spot, by the way.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Oh, man. I have an epic story about that. I say, I tell you. Okay, all right, I can't wait. Do you know Uncle Bill? No, I was going to say. But he's our uncle. No, but I see Brownie there because he's there with his family too.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And we just kind of look at each other and we're like, really try to win this one, you know? Like we got to, and it was obviously saying it in Jess. but yeah it's just like we're like hey we just got to get one you know and then just chip away at it so like i don't know i don't know how we did it but like i'm just happy we did yeah yeah yeah well i mean it's just like hockey it is stories like that are so incredible you first round you go down 03 you're dead to rights by all accounts you then win the cup that year unbelievable yeah but it's like i understand statistically it's every time someone goes down 03.
Starting point is 00:56:16 It's so unlikely that you win that series, let alone continue to go on and win. But it's like, we all know you could win any night with so many of these teams. And it's like, I always look at it as, well, that team just won three in a row. Why can't we? And it's like, here you go.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It happens. It's like, look at the cup two years ago. I know. Florida up, 3-0, and next thing you know, we're in a game 7. So it's like, Jesus fucking Christ. This is crazy. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:56:41 It's weird. I mean, momentum, like, all it takes, Like, it's, momentum's such a funny thing in hockey. And like, it takes one little play. Yeah. To just flip an entire series. 100%. And I don't know if there was really like one play in that San Jose series.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But like, it's just a funny, funny thing, especially when you get into a seven game series. You know, like belief and confidence. Yeah, belief and confidence. And then just casting a little bit of doubt in their mind because it's like, I've been on the other side of that. And you're just like, you know, like, oh, for sure. Yeah. Like, all right, they're coming. Well, we were talking, you asked me, I guess I didn't answer, but like when we lost the two against Jersey.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Yeah. And it's like we're flying across going back and forth and you're just like, it sits in the back of your mind. Like we better get this done. Yeah, definitely. Like the pressure mounts. And it's a real thing. Yeah. Do not want to say it. And then after you beat the sharks, I was thinking, oh, maybe they're just going to start rolling now.
Starting point is 00:57:33 But it's like wrong. Absolute slug fast. Well, hold on. I do quickly need to know. Listen, it's been a while. So we're not insulting anyone. When you win that game seven, were you guys like, holy fucking shit.
Starting point is 00:57:45 That had to have been a pretty... I know it's round one. That had to have been a pretty awesome party. Yeah, I was... I mean, yeah, but it's like... You can enjoy it. Like, this is the cliche thing to say, but it's actually true.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It's like, all right, enjoy it tonight. Yeah. That's a thing about Game 7. It's like, there's no time. No, you're playing in like a day. You have like maybe a travel day, maybe two, you know, in between. But yeah, I just...
Starting point is 00:58:10 I remember thinking like, oh, man, I would really hate to be in San Jose's ex and things. You know, like, that's where it's like the human side of it. You're like, ooh, sorry, but you don't, yeah, you don't feel bad, but like, you put yourself in those shoes and I'm like, yeah, you do think about it. And you're like, damn, that's tough. Okay, so anyway, Slugfest against the ducks, which is like an insane back and forth. Then you get the Hawks. You guys go up three one, I'm pretty sure. They win like the double O T, game five, win game six, then you go to game seven. So here you are again. And in that game you guys go down 2-0 3-2 and 4-3 yeah battleback force o t and then you fire arista
Starting point is 00:58:48 yeah what what did that feel like in that moment uh well it was wild like i mean same thing like you're talking about we're up 3-1 on chicago and not to bypass the anaheim series yeah which was that was a slug fat yeah but like going into chicago it's it was like all right well we had a chance to finish this off but also like we just played two of these game sevens on the road like here we go again, you know. But that was the thing. It's like we had this like confidence, even though we are down, like, all right, we're good, we're good.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And I don't know. We just, what was it? Gabby scored that goal to tie it in the third. Yeah. And I remember, yeah, we went down two nothing early in the first and in that building too. I know. And it's just like, ooh, you know. And we, and you think about that, like we had just lost in that building the,
Starting point is 00:59:41 year prior and 13. And lost two in a row to them in the series. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, it's just, I don't know. It's like, and also at that time, like, you don't have time to think about that stuff. So true.
Starting point is 00:59:54 You're just like, all right, I'm just in the moment, you know, like, I'm just worrying about my next shift. Again, such a turd answer, like, cliche. But it's like really the only way to handle it or else it'll get the best of you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so then, yeah, with that goal.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Did you see it going? Because it was kind of like through its screen. I could kind of, I started, I think I saw Stoli start jumping. But the story behind that was Ben Smith forward. He must have blocked like three or four of my shots. That game. And I was just like, I was getting so rattled. And probably Daryl was just giving it to me for not getting them through.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And so I thought like if I ever get a chance against him again, I'm just going to stop and try to go the other way because I'm like, I'm not getting him through on this guy. And so then obviously I do the stop and I come back and I just throw it. And I mean, I got super lucky like off McLeady or whatever. But it was just a good play by Justin Williams. Like just weird, right?
Starting point is 01:00:58 Game 7, that guy does. Yeah, shocker. Yeah. What a stunning event. Yeah. And yeah, and it's just, yeah, I just got lucky and threw it at the net. And I actually just told this story the other day, but I, uh, I told, I called my old man after the game. like after the all the hoopla and all that stuff was done and i i remember i was sitting on the bus
Starting point is 01:01:22 um at united center waiting to like pull out and i called my dad i was like you believe what just happened like i'm like dad i hope you know like this is it like this is the pinnacle it's all downhill from here like i'm never going to do anything like that ever again and then um little that i know that we were going to end up doing it again 10 days later but like um what a world but yeah so it was just like kind of a cool moment with my dad. I was like, but, um, but yeah, I remember it was like me, Thai. Yeah. And, um, maybe it was Daryl in the, in the press conference, but yeah, wild. Insane. And were you like, because that is such a, like you said, it was with the pinnacle in that moment. We're like, did you, we're like, did, I'm, I feel like I would have woke
Starting point is 01:02:04 up in the morning and been like, holy fuck. Yeah. I, yeah, I don't know. It's like, again, you're still like, you're like, all right, on to the next one. Job's not done. Yeah. And it's, I mean, I I'll be honest, like other than settings like this, I don't think about it really ever. Like I believe it. I just, I don't know, people bring it up to me, but I don't, this sounds so cliche and I feel like a turd saying this, but like I genuinely don't care that it was me. Right. Like I just want, I just wanted to win, you know? 100% man.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And I mean, let's call a spate of spade. I got pretty lucky. Like I just threw it at the net and just, you know, but. Got it through though. Got it through. Fucking nice. Hey, well, I almost got it through. I got it at least down there.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah. But yeah, so, yeah, crazy. In that final, which is possibly the craziest five games series of all time, I think it was like game one's OT, game two is double OT, you're up to O, win game three, game four, they win. You're coming back, how much of you is like, holy shit, we've already had two OT or more games in this series. were up sure but say what you will
Starting point is 01:03:15 MSG is a crazy barn to play in you come back to L.A how much in your head were you like fucking end it now like don't do not go back to New York let's take care of this honestly like all of us were just like we don't want another cross country flight so tired dude it's real and it's like two years ago same thing
Starting point is 01:03:36 it was the same airport we were flying in out of Newark and we're like ah deja vu all over again I'm like man I just don't want to get on that bird again. And I remember, like, back to that original series, like, we guys are so dehydrated and, like, for sure. And, like, those cross-country flights, like, I mean, they're grind. Oh, definitely. And then in 23 with Vegas, it's like, we're doing the same thing, Vegas to Florida. I'm like, my goodness, you know. And so that was like, buddy, we were doing it commercial. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. And it's like, I like, we wanted to win,
Starting point is 01:04:09 but we more so just didn't want to hop on a bird again. that flight. So, um, but yeah, it's, I mean, it was, I mean, it would have been obviously cool to win it, but I'm, I'm actually very fortunate to have won the three times at home because it's just, it's awesome, it's awesome. So, so awesome. But, but yeah. Yeah, but you're in double O T in game five.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Obviously, Toff comes in, low shot, squirts out to you. First of all, you're talking about being dehydrated. It's the end of the season. All the trout. You're in double over time for the second time in the fucking series. Do you, did you block out during that or do you remember that play vividly? I, because that puck hits your stick and you must have been like, oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:55 It's like, it happens so quick you don't know. And I almost blacked out afterward. Yeah. I don't. But, um, but, um, but yeah, it's, I don't know. Like I just, I feel weird talking about it. Like, but it's just, it's like, again, I, I don't care that it was me.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Sure. I know it sounds corny. No, no. But I genuinely, like, don't think about it. Like, I'm reminded once a year when people tweet at me on June 13th. Yeah. And then. You hear the Doc Emerit call.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know, but I just, like, I just feel very fortunate to, like, I mean, we've all scored that goal on our driveway as a kid, you know, or mini sticks in the basement or something like that. And to be able to do it in real life is pretty special. but like I don't, there's other things in my career that I'm more proud of. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:47 You know? I heard you say, like, go back to the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we can get into that. Yeah, yeah. We can get into that afterward. But it's like, I don't know, I, I, I'm grateful for it.
Starting point is 01:05:57 And I know how fortunate I am, but I just, like, I genuinely, like, don't talk about it that much. And you can probably tell that I, like, I'm, like, folding up into my shell. It's like, hey, can you talk about some out? But I, I think it's so. awesome because you having done that, like we said, the imaginary dream you do as a kid, it is so clear that after the grind and the journey, it is so much about just doing it with your team. Who gives a shit who scores? Getting the win is the best. And it's like you are the
Starting point is 01:06:27 living embodiment of that being a real feeling that it's like, cool. Yeah, I scored. I'm grateful for it. But I'm more grateful that I got to win with this group of guys. That is so awesome. Right. And it's back to your point about like being the end of the year. I think like if you added up with all the extra overtimes and periods we played, we played almost like 30 games. Isn't that? Yes. And we went to game seven of the first three suit. But, but yeah, like it's a cool feeling to have scored, but like a better feeling is seeing Marion Gabbrick lift the cup for the first time, seeing Robin Regier lift it up for the first time. And like seeing a guy or guys like that that have been around for so long and
Starting point is 01:07:07 we're never, you know, able to do it. And then all of a sudden they, they can. And not that I was like some all-knowing kid. I was 26. Yeah. And I, but I had just, you know, we had won a couple years before. So like that feeling and sharing it with people that you care about is far better than any goal that you get ever school. Yeah. So true.
Starting point is 01:07:26 That's. You know, it's really awesome about your three cups as well. It is, I mean, like I'm not talking about beating people, but beating Broder, Hank and Bob. Yeah, yeah, Drew. Hall of Fame all-time goaltenders is kind of a sick. Good resume. Yeah, it's a good resume. It wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:07:44 But, you know, like, those are, it's pretty cool. Like, those are battles. Like, you had your three cups, you went up against some of the best of all time. That's what? Yeah, but we also had Quickey to. Yeah, right. Helps. The best of all times.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yeah, yeah. And Hilsie was, well, that was a cool thing about 23, is it, like, Brasua and Hill. I mean, they were dynamite. Dynamite, man. And did. And Quickey was on that team. Yeah, which was sick. Okay, well, so Vegas.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I heard Kessel was also being like, don't make me fucking fly back to Florida. Yeah, that's actually a true story. Yeah, he's sitting in his stall, like talking like this. Come on, boy, you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Like, he was, he's an awesome dude, that guy. Like, he's one of my favorites. Yeah. But he's all time. Do you remember anything from that year with him? Oh, just like, I mean, he's just like the butt of so many jokes. Yeah. but it's all like, you know, like we love him, you know, but he's just like such a, like in a
Starting point is 01:08:46 locker room, like he's so, like he gives it back to guys, but like it's always just, you know, like ripping on Phil and then he's just like, ah, yeah, rip on me, eh? You know, like all. And it's just like his demeanor, but, um, yeah, he's, he's such a good dude. And, uh, well, it's like, Ike's came on the show and told us the marshy headbut story. Yeah, yeah. Okay. That shit's just always happening to him. It feels like, so I was, like, fucking Marshy. I was me. It was me. Who else was it? There were only two other people in the room in Ottawa, and I was right there. I saw the whole thing. Really? Oh, my God. But with like the Harry Potter scar and all that. And like the stumble back and like the big old goose egg that they had. I don't even think Phil even like took a shot in warmups. He just skated around with his bucket like angled way up and just didn't do anything. But that was incredible, an incredible moment. But the funny part is that was it Phil? So it was in the locker room, but someone had like, oh, it was actually me because I would always shower after. So I tracked in a little bit of water.
Starting point is 01:09:47 So like one of the two, I can't remember if it was Marchier. I think it was full on. But he slipped time on the water and almost like blew his groin after he's got the goose egg. Did Jack tell that part? No, he didn't know. Yeah. So like, so we were just like, we almost lost two of our top players and some stupid thing that they were like messing around before the game. I remember like I think they came in and they went in and told.
Starting point is 01:10:10 the coaching staff and like they didn't even know what to say it couldn't even be mad yeah yeah like dude you did what yeah but then marchie missed like most of warmups because he was getting zips yeah yeah but marcy's got zips phil's almost blowing his groin yeah also a big old like goose egg right right where his helmet sits you're a post-warmy shower guy uh no sorry that was like post meeting like i would shower before i warmed up okay okay i was like i was like i would like go on the not in the hot tub or, you know, something like that. But yeah, not, those guys are psychos. And I know a couple of those.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Me too. I was, we all know a few of them. And I was about to say. Once my gear is put on, like, I'm not taking it. Like, I'll take my upper stuff off in between periods. But like, unless I have to, you know, like. Completely with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Unless you got to take a dump or something. Yeah. My skates and all that are not coming on. I was a, I was ready to say. And I wore a girdle too. So I never, even if I had to do that, like, I could just. Guys who take their skates off. Like, I understand on loose.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I'm sitting them a bit, but guys who take their boots off. I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Well, because anyone that's played knows that like you, you retie them and they don't feel the six. No, exactly. Yeah, they're like broken in and they're so tight. And it's just like once they, I tie them, like, I don't want to touch it.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yep. You talked about that feeling of like fighting the, like we're winning, but, you know, it's not over yet. Yeah. Did you let it take you when it was fucking nine one? Yeah. Well, I don't know. You're still trying to fight that.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Like maybe once it was nine. Yeah. Like, and there was, when was it nine? Dude, was it, was it for a while? Yeah, because they got too late. Yeah, maybe it was like, maybe it was like eight one and then they scored two. Yeah, and then like one went off Petro's foot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Yeah. Well, a funny story about that is that I had four of my college buddies out and then my whole family and all that stuff. And normally when I would go to the rink, you know, it's like when I get there, my phone's in my stall and I don't check it. Yeah. Well, obviously with the buildup of everything going on, it's Vegas. You guys know that plaza there. Oh, yeah. It's like, it's slammed, right?
Starting point is 01:12:16 And so, for whatever reason, like, after, like, before I, like, I would warm up, like, my off ice warm up, then I'd go get all my gitch on and all that. And for some reason, I was just like, oh, I'll check my phone. And my wife texted me, and it was like a selfie of her and, like, all my buddies, my family. They're taking, like, shots down in ice luge. Yeah. And I'm just thinking, I'm like, oh. oh, well, at least they're having fun. You know, like, I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:12:42 I'm, like, grind and trying to get, like, I got to work here, you know? And then I remember just feeling this, like, feeling I'm like, well, we better get it done because they're parted already like we have, you know? Yeah. So, but yeah, it was, yeah, I mean, I guess there was a, there's actually a funny story where our assistant coach, Johnny Stevens, I love this guy. I might go through a brick wall for him. but I had him in my LA days.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Of my 17-year pro career, I think I was with Johnny for like 12 of them or some. Yeah, that's awesome. And it was like, I don't know, two minutes left, and we were at that point, it was 9 to 3. And at that point, I'm like, all right. Yeah, like we're going to start like, we don't need to celebrate the 10th goal.
Starting point is 01:13:29 You start getting a little giddy on the bench, you know. And then Johnny is just, if you know him, he's an intense coach and but awesome guy and he's like like i can't remember you saying something about telling us d man to have like tighter gaps or something like that and then finally like i just turned around and it's like i i've had i've known johnny since i was 20 yeah and i'm like johnny like would you relax man like we just won the stanley cup and he just like looks at me and then like just cracks his smile and like hits me with his little like game sheet and it was just it was like but that's like yeah that's like a good example i say that in jess but that's like a good example of the like you're
Starting point is 01:14:13 trying to you're trying to fight that yes he's doing it too and he knows that he's got to do it and he feels that pressure as a coach because he's like i can't let the boys like get see me celebrate yeah or or like i can't let this you know let them let it slip away or like even though it's yeah But yeah, so that was pretty good. That's great. I love that guy and he just kind of cracks a smile. Like all the D-Men were like looking at you and looking back. We saw that, Johnny.
Starting point is 01:14:42 And then you mentioned this earlier, but how special was it to be able to hand the cup to Quicky? Like what a moment for you to. It was honestly like, I mean, I was fortunate to have some pretty cool moments in my career and that was one of the best. It has to be. Like the fact that especially with the way. everything ended up going down for him and everyone being shocked that it's like jonathan quick they just traded him to like Columbus and then Columbus bluejackets legend yeah legend which by the way that like was the funny thing was the fun like it was awesome yeah that like they they couldn't have handled that
Starting point is 01:15:18 any oh no truly and the fact that like it got quickie to crack that smile with that straight for him sitting on the bench you know like that so it was so so good but um yeah and it was just cool because it's like We talked about it earlier. Like Quickey and I go back to playing in the miners and room it on the road. And then all of a sudden, like, what, 15, 16 years later, I'm, like, handing him the cup after all that. And, like, who would have ever thought that Quickey was, like,
Starting point is 01:15:45 a golden knight, right? Like, of all people to send to, like, the rival. I mean, not that they did. Yeah, right. And ended up going that. But, yeah, it was poetic. But, like, speaking to him, too, it's like he and his wife, Jackie are the best.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Dude, Jackie. is a legend. A hall of fame human. And I would not want to be on the wrong side of Jackie. But no, they are just the best. And it was, it was so cool to see him come to Vegas too because like he won a few games for us too, right? Oh my God. Yeah. He was such a good, he was such a good presence in that room. He bought in like whatever I can do. But then like he taught so much to everyone off the ice like he and jack you guys know like are some of the most generous people i have ever and they want to be the host of the party and they're they and they bring anyone who wants to come like they're all inviting like and and that was like such a cool thing that a lot of people learn from them
Starting point is 01:16:44 and just like how to handle that and how to like bring a group together and like make the families love each other and all that and they were just like it was it was really cool for such a short time he was in Vegas, like he, he and Jackie left such a big impact and, and like, that organization loves him. Yeah. I mean, dude, they're just grade A people. It's unbelievable. And that was cool.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And then it's like, if you ever been on a, on a Jackie and Jonathan quit party bus, well then. Oh, dude. That's on bucket list for me. Oh, dude. It's like, yeah, the night's going one way and one way only and you're having a great time. And I don't mean anything bad, but just like, they're just, they're the life of the party. It's super fun, and they just want everyone to have a good time.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Yeah. That's awesome. It's amazing. The best. Well, here you are sitting on this show. After you hung them up, no TV was like rule number one. Yeah. It felt like.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Yeah. Well, no, it was rule number two. No, okay. Okay, fair. Fair. And then two. And then you were like, no TV, won't do it, won't do it. And now here we are, and you're buzzing.
Starting point is 01:17:47 You're doing TV. You're doing podcast. Oh, I'm here to tell you. It suits you well. And now I'm finding out, Danny's been doing it. it through writhing in pain the whole time. Seriously. Some things never change.
Starting point is 01:17:59 He's about to lose a leg. It's unbelievable. No. But you're doing a lot of it. I'll tell you right now, I'm having a great time. You're good at it. Are you having fun? Thanks.
Starting point is 01:18:10 I need to come on this show more often. You live down the road, now. There's a seat right there for you. I've been trying to get you to sit in it for months. Well, that's the thing that I was saying. I'm like, man, I've been trying to come on and I felt bad. But I just, like every time that you guys have asked me, I've been out in Vegas doing a game or Chicago.
Starting point is 01:18:27 But it's, we've been ships fast in the night. Like we've been gone, you've been gone. And hell, I only live 15 miles down the road, which might as well be a different planet in L.A. But no, yeah, I just, yeah, I always said like, and I can still say I'm that I'm never going to coach. Yeah. But I always said I wouldn't be on TV.
Starting point is 01:18:46 And then it just kind of like organically happened that. So when I was out with, when I got sliced in the face, is a whole other podcast. Yeah, yeah. We say we're saving that for us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I actually, Darren Millard, the host in Vegas, and he's been with Sportsnet, like, this guy's the best.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Awesome dude. Awesome dude. And I spent a lot of time with him that year because I was skating a lot by myself, trying to figure out my own problems, and he would always come out with guys to have a goalie to shoot on it. So I got to know him, and we kind of developed a friendship, and then, my last year in Vegas, you know, he's like, well, if this is, in fact, the, your last year, you know, I think that you'd be good at this. And, you know, and I was like, yeah, I pushed back on
Starting point is 01:19:36 it a little bit. I'm like, eh, maybe. And part of that was just like, I don't think I'm ready to wrap my head around, like, what I'm going to do when I'm done because I'm still, like, a player in my myself. And, and then I also, I'm like, TV, like, nah, I don't, I don't want to be, like, one of those guys in the media scrum like asking questions because I like quite frank well I liked a lot of them but some of them I didn't you know and I'll just leave it at that but sure um and I'm like I don't want to be that guy and but then like he kind of convinced me and then I was like yeah you know and in my retirement I just I'm like I'm going to take the first couple years I want to be a dad and I want to get my health back and and and yeah yeah things are going the dad part's going great the health part is
Starting point is 01:20:20 a work in progress. Yeah. Yeah, that's still in the queue. But I'll go into the night a few more times. Check in with me like in five years from now, see if I got it. But yeah, so I'm like, I just want to try stuff. And so I'm trying not to say no to anything within reason. Like I'm not going to head down to Spirman Rhino or become a Chippendale. But like I... That'd have been an awkward running for us. Yeah, that would, yeah. Yeah. Didn't, oh, fancy seeing you. Yeah. Oh, Marty.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Weird. I'm just picking it. They have great wings here. Yeah, yeah, great wings. Yeah, the T-bone steak. Yeah. $9.99. No, but, and so, like, it was easy because I already had, like, a friendship with Darren.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And so he's like, yeah, I think you'd be good at this. And so then we were chatting in the summer. And then I did a few games with them. And then Chicago called and asked. And I don't know. It's a lot of fun. Like, for me, like, if I would, like, quit hockey cold turkey, And I think we talked about this
Starting point is 01:21:22 when we played in the charity game together. Like if I would have quit a cold turkey, like that would have been pretty tough to just all of a sudden give up like the biggest thing in my life, my entire life. You know? Yes. Yeah, two.
Starting point is 01:21:35 And so this is like, gets me out of the house for a few days. I get to see my buddies because I'm buddies with the guys on Chicago. Of course, yeah. In Vegas. And so I'll see him like for dinner or some on an off day.
Starting point is 01:21:49 My sister and brother-in-law, new nephew lived there so I get to see them. Oh, in Chicago? In Vegas. And then I get to talk hockey and get paid a little money and I get out of the house for three or four days so my wife doesn't want to kill me, you know, more so than she already does. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Great gig, you know. And so, like, and they've been, I really appreciative of both organizations allowing me. But like when I initially talked to Vegas, I was like, hey, like, I just want to always reserve the right to say no. Like, because I want to be a dad and I want to get my health back. Like, those are my big end. They're like, yeah, no problem, you know. And so they've been really good to me. And then I've actually done, I've ended up doing more than what we had originally planned. And I like it. Like, it keeps me, it keeps me somewhat involved. Like, I, I follow my buddies, but I've, like, I follow the teams now too. And it kind of forces me to, it like scratches the
Starting point is 01:22:44 itch. Definitely, man. And, um, I don't know. It's, it's fun. Like, am I going to do it forever? I don't know. Like, do they want me to do it forever? I don't know. But, I mean, I think I would do it for another year, and it's kind of, like, grown into other things, and I've had different opportunities. So I'm trying to, like, stay patient in it all, you know, and it's hard sometimes. And then doing, like, the breakdowns on Twitter or on my YouTube channel now, but, which is weird to say, like, I feel like a loser. Hey, pal. Yeah, welcome to the fucking club. Yeah, right guys, dude. Like, all right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:20 you know, please tune in to my YouTube. Yeah, like, like and subscribe. I'm like, I refuse to say that. Yeah, say it. Like and subscribe, no way. But, no, but the, I don't know, I'm just, I'm trying stuff. Like that is an experiment. The TV stuff is, you know, an experiment, but also, you know, fun to do.
Starting point is 01:23:40 So I don't know. I'll see where it goes, but I'm not like in a hurry. Yeah, yeah, perfect. Really, like I just didn't want, like, especially with my two young kids, like, how lucky am I to be able to hang them up. And I just don't want to jump at the first thing and it be the wrong thing. And then all of a sudden I'm like, oh, shit. You know?
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah. So like I can be a dad. I can be around. I don't have to travel as much, even though I kind of travel a little bit for the TV. But it's been, it's been good. Yeah, it's been fun. Hell yeah, man. It's awesome.
Starting point is 01:24:09 It's awesome. Like we said, it's good to have you in this world. Yeah. We need more people like you. Well, hey, I'm just down the road. So whenever you guys want me on. Here we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yeah. Okay, so we're gonna play a game with everybody that comes on. It's called Pass Shoot's Score. We're gonna play with you right now. Okay. Basically, we give you categories of things. Yeah. And then I will give you three things in that category that I know you like.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Okay. You have to rank them pass shoot score. Is this like Mary Fuck Hill? It's exactly like that. Exactly. All right. So pass is your least favorite because passing the puck's fine and whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Your first category. I'm a college grad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I could have put that. These guy's a degree. I could have put that. It's literally an accounting degree. He knows how... He knows how... Yeah, super exciting stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Okay, your first category is Rochester Hills treats. Treats. Yep. Okay. So pass-chute score. Can I guess the three things that you're going to say? Yes. No, no.
Starting point is 01:25:02 No. Okay. Well, I mean, actually, write him down. Because I want to see if he's going to snipe all three. Okay. I probably won't, but... I bet you... I bet he gets a couple of...
Starting point is 01:25:14 I bet he gets two of the three. Because, you know, it's tricky. Like I know I find some that I'm like, he definitely loves this. But then some I'm like, I think, who knows? Yeah, yeah. I think this is a part of his life. We can't let our research be encrypted too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Can I put more than three? Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely. Sure can. Okay. Okay. Your first one, and the first one, I think, is the one he might not have. I agree. I think this is going to be the past.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Me too, but I just think it was from his childhood. It's iconic. It's from his childhood. Okay, so past you score. Hitting Dairy Queen for, ice cream after a hockey game. Hitting, and I'm not sure how you pronounce it, Lipumas, La Puma's Coney Island for a dog,
Starting point is 01:26:04 or hitting Yates cider mill for an apple cider. All right. I thought we were going like treats like sweets. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah. So I have hometown bakery, Naps, donuts, and then I put- We had Naps Donuts. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Okay, those are good. Oh, I grew up on D.K. Yep. So it was DQ, Yates, and Lopuma's. Yeah, yeah, Lepumas. All right, I'm scoring Lopumas every day of the week. That's my go-to spot. God, yes.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Tony Dog, it's the best. You have no idea how much just fires us up because it's going to open a whole new door of conversation in one second. Okay, finish your passion. Lupuma, Tony is like the man. Yeah. Like, people I went to high school with still work there.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Really? It's awesome. Yeah. It's like, that's when I go home, like I don't make it, we live in the summer up in, near Traverse City. Yeah. But I don't make it down.
Starting point is 01:26:59 He went there for a wedding. Yeah. But it's always like it's where my buddies and I, we always meet La Pumas. And it's like, you think like I should go back and like meet at the bar, but it's like, no dog. Like we're going, no pun intended. We're going on La Puma. Like we're sitting out by the river.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Like a little creek there. It's awesome. And like two conies and a Greek salad, dude, and fries to share on the table. Share fries. Because you got to keep it tight. You know, always. But scoring that for sure. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:26 I think I got to, this kills me. This is hard. Yeah. I think I got to pass on Yates. Fuck. Wow. Yeah. Does Yates do the cider donuts and all that too?
Starting point is 01:27:41 They do cider everything. Which is unreal, but there's a reason why I got to go shoot with DQ. So that DQ downtown, that was actually, I'm like, all right. So I'm not one to have any street cred, but I'm blowing it now. But like my wife and I started dating when we were like, I was like 31. Yeah. 32. So we were beyond all the bullshit, right?
Starting point is 01:28:10 Sure. All that stuff. Yeah. No games. And yeah, no games. And it was easy. We both knew like it was easy. And so I went back for my buddy's wedding and I brought her in August.
Starting point is 01:28:23 And so that was at like the Henry Ford Museum downtown. We were staying elsewhere, but I'm like, I got to take you to my hometown. Yeah. And so I take her to Rochester Mills Brewery. And we have dinner. We have Rochester Red. And like that's the go-to thing. Went to hometown bakery and then went to Napsed Donuts, got a donut for like a post, I guess, dessert.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Yeah, yeah. That counts. It's kind of a Nail. But they call it a bang-bang. Like you go to dinner one place and then you just go to another dinner. That's a quickie, Jackie Quick thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:52 A bang, bang, yeah. But we went to desserts. And so then we went to DQ because I'm like, I can't come home and not go to DQ. Well, so we were sitting outside and my now wife was like, you, you like haven't asked me to be your girlfriend yet. Yeah. And I was like, what? Yeah. You're in my hometown at Dairy Queen.
Starting point is 01:29:16 And I brought you back. Yeah. And we've been dating for like, I don't know, four or five months. I'm like, is that a thing? Like, do you need me to go on Facebook to make a Facebook official? Are we, are we, yeah, do I need to do, like, is this, are we in high school all over again? Like, and she's like, well, it would be nice. And I was like, well, I kind of thought it was implied, but like, yeah, I'm like, would you be my girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:29:37 And we both have like a cone. It's so corny and cheesy. Oh my God. Like, that's what I mean. You're literally 13. We might have to cut this out. You're 13 years old in this moment. And I'm like, I.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Do you want to lick a mine? Yeah, we might have to cut this. Yeah. What's yours is mine and what's mine is I, are we wrapped in like, you know, no. But I was like, I can't believe I'm doing this. But yeah, so then we always laugh when we drive by and it's like, well, I guess that's where we made it. Like, dude, that's your official. So that's why I got to pass on Yates.
Starting point is 01:30:02 But I also, when I was out with my face, long story, but they flew me to Ann Arbor to see a neurologist for like a week. So I went to my hometown and it was fall peak cider and donut season. So we went to Yates and it's dynamite. I love a cider too. Yeah. It's so good. And that's a nice thing about like being up north in Michigan now. it's like we're really close to an orchard and that's like everyone that comes to town it's like
Starting point is 01:30:29 the hot donuts and the cider and it's like the best so i feel bad shout out yates i don't mean to pass on it no we got love for all of them i got a legit you shot your shot at dq you had to shoot yeah exactly yeah i will let's be quick on this one because i do want to move to the dog conversation okay yeah what do you get at dq because i there was like at dq yeah like there was a there was one DQ bias in like kiddery main but like we didn't go that often but when I was younger every time people would have the like blizzard the blizzard no dude for me yeah they don't flip it upside down it's true I I used to get fucking horny seeing that like chocolate or like cherry coated twisty cone that shit was insane to me like it looks unbelievable okay that's my go-to is it yeah and what flavor
Starting point is 01:31:15 you get vanilla cone dipped in cherry in cherry every time I mean it looks it's the most appealing looking thing I've ever specifically the It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable and it's probably just full of red 40. Yeah. And I'm just like, give it to me. I'm buzzing out. Yeah, just like inject it straight into my veins.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Yeah, 100% put it right in. All right. I'm glad to hear. But not all dairy queens around the country are the same. So like a lot of them don't have the cherry dip. Yeah. But it must be like a Midwest thing. No, we had it too.
Starting point is 01:31:43 We had it in Maine. Like it's all like, Dairy Queen is more for food. And I'm like, wait, they actually serve food at Dairy Queen. Everyone's like, you have the burger? Yeah. What are you fucking talking? No, I have never once eaten at Dairy Queen, like ever. I did not realize they were hot options here.
Starting point is 01:31:57 What are you talking about? But I will say like on National Blizzard Day or whatever, like you got to go Blizzard. You got it. Yeah, yeah. Change it up. But I would say more often than not, I'm cherry dip. Yeah, yeah. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:32:09 All right, so at La Puma's. And you get the cony. What is your go-to? Two conies and a Greek salad and then fries to share. They have some epic ones. I saw I looked at the menu. Yeah. The New York dog looks pretty gas.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I mean, like you put a crowd. mustard, onion. Texas is a barbecue, coleslaw, like, come on. You guys did your research. Yeah, brother. I love that. We also don't fuck around
Starting point is 01:32:30 when it comes to hot dogs. So this is what, here's the thing. Do we need to fly to Rochester? Okay. You know what we're going to do? Seriously? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:39 If it's the last thing we do, we will go to Rochester and go to this place and then we have to go to Maine because there's a dog shop in our hometown called Floes. Head-to-head comparison? Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Because it's also famous. Blind taste test? Yes. How, though? They're so different, which fires me up because, like, a lot of bells and whistles going on here at La Puma's, which I love. Yeah. Flows is like, it's a small dog. It's a steamed bun and steamed dog. And they make this thing called Flo's Relish that is, like, the craziest, delicious, like, sweet and sour type relish you've ever had. And it's just like, they're going to be so different.
Starting point is 01:33:14 It's going to be incredible. Yeah. Well, it's like, I'm fine with the head-to-head comparison, but we need to figure out logistics. Yeah. Because conies do not travel well. If there's one thing that's why we've got to go. Like we got to sit there and eat. Then we got to get on the bird and go to Maine and sit there and eat.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Are we doing bang bang? Yeah. I'll tell you one thing. I feel bad for the rest of the people on that flight back for me. We're just like this. We've just been flying around the country eating hot dogs. People are like this. You guys sit in a row together, please.
Starting point is 01:33:43 We need a lot like Chavez City summer. Like it's the same vibe. It's just so pretty, so nice. It's amazing. Yeah, it's the best. But with the Kony, though, it's just the chili or whatever, you know, and then mustard and onion. You're not going crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Like you're not like Chicago style. Which is very good, by the way. Yeah. But, yeah. No, it's great. All right, we're going to stay on food. Your next one is road trip dinners. Like NHL road trip.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Okay. Pasture score. Bottle in Hermosa. Sorentinos in Edmonton. Yeah. Good bread there. Uh-huh. And then Italian kitchen in Vancouver.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Getting the truffle spaghetti and meatballs. Yeah, truffle spaghetti meatballs. And this is hard because, like, part of me wants to go score with the truffle spaghetti meatballs. That was, like, me and Dustin Brown's spot. Like, I didn't, I mean, we could have had a team dinner. It's like, sorry, boys. No, it would never do that.
Starting point is 01:34:41 But, like, that was our spot. Have fun, guys. That's when you do a bang, bang. You go to Italian kitchen first. See later, yeah. Yeah. but I can't like I live right next to bottling and that's like my go-to spot that can I be honest I I almost hesitate saying it because I don't want people to know about bottling yeah like it's like I feel
Starting point is 01:35:01 like it's one of those things that I'm like I don't need people hearing about bottling I love that spot I mean my wife and I were always like Martha's Cross Street and bottle-in like all the time it's a green store for a sandwich but um and we only live like a couple blocks from there but um I guess I got to go with my hometown and Okay, and score with bottle. Hell yeah. I'm going to shoot with Italian Kitchen. And then what was the third one? We're going to pass Sorrentino.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Oh, Sorrentinos is like, yeah, I mean, that's obviously an iconic spot. Yeah. We actually, yeah, we had the, we had quite a few team dinners there, actually. Yeah, the night before the Edmonton series in Vegas. Oh, yeah, nice. Yeah. Yeah. They pulled out all the stops, so tip of the cap to them.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Yeah. Especially for the, and they didn't poison our food. Yeah, right. Which they could have. At least not that I know of. We either have iron stomachs or they just didn't poison our food. Yeah, they're like, what the fuck? We got to kill this guy. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:35:57 That's so good. That's so good. Okay. Your next category is books. Ooh. Nonfiction books. All right, good. Because if it were fiction, I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Yeah, you wouldn't know shit about that. You don't even watch TV, bro. Yeah, no. It's crazy. Okay. In the Garden of Beasts. Yeah. Fearless.
Starting point is 01:36:12 A history of the world in six glasses. Ooh. All right. I got to go. fearless. That's one of the best stories I have ever read in my entire life. Dude, holy shit. I would undoubtedly recommend that to anyone. Yep. It's an incredible, Adam Brown. That is undoubtedly score. In the Garden of Beast, I'm like, I like history and stuff. So I got a, I got to shoot on that one and then pass on the six glasses. I mean,
Starting point is 01:36:41 it looked cool actually. Yeah, like the six glasses is cool, but like I'm on blood thinners right now. like I can't drink, so I'm going to have to... For right now? We just need to get that out of mind, out of mind for now. That's true. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 01:36:54 I suppose that people listening has zero context, but we'll just leave it at that. Just temporary. Just temporary. Just temporary. Three months. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Three months. Okay. I love it. Fiorose, I got to check it out. I agree. I mean, also, if you're into history books, I got a whole... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:10 I like you're a nonfiction book. I got a couple ones you'll date. Well, it's like I... Save fiction for the movie. Exactly. Yeah. Like, I don't know. fiction like if i'm gonna sit down and actually read like i want to kind of learn something that
Starting point is 01:37:21 actually yeah that's fair it's a very fair take if i want to turn my brain off like how am i going do that reading yeah you know like i i don't know i saw someone maybe someone much smarter that works for them but like me no like yeah i'll save that for what would you say for movies i only found two so i didn't include it i was going to do forest gump and dumb and dumber forrest gump it's hands down my number yeah i couldn't find it's one of three movies you've seen yeah yeah i haven't i literally haven't seen anything else. Yeah, dumb and dumber. I really like Charlie Wilson's War.
Starting point is 01:37:54 I think that's like undercover funny. Yeah, it is. Like, not a funny, like, not a funny event. Yeah, or like, subject matter. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah. Yeah, but like, Phil C. Moore Hoffman is like hilarious in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:10 But yeah, Forrest Gump is like, it's incredible. It's perfect movie. Like, it's the, it's the, It's the best movie ever. Yeah. Because it's like, it's hilarious in so many ways. Like, it's like a good drama in so many ways. Like, yeah, it's the best.
Starting point is 01:38:23 And then dumb and dumber is just like, like, that's how I knew I was getting old in a locker room where I would throw dumb and dumber quotes and guys would be like, what? Yeah. You know? It's a bad feeling. We interviewed some of the young kids and I will reference these movies and they're like, what?
Starting point is 01:38:37 I've never seen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We mentioned N64 to Schaefer the other day and he was like, what's that? He literally asked me what Nintendo 64 is. Christ. I was like, it's a bad. Gold Nye?
Starting point is 01:38:45 Yeah. Come on, man. Marty, I shit you not. Last week, I was like working, doing research on something, and I was on Twitter and just scrolling. I scrolled past, it was like a 4-U post, and it was like nostalgic video games. And it was a 13-minute video of just a level from Goldnigh. I watched the whole thing. Watched all 13 minutes, baby.
Starting point is 01:39:07 And I was like, if there was an N-64 in this office, I would fire it up right now. I'll never forget it. You start out in the ventilation shaft and facility. Correct. And then you have to snipe that. dude that's on the shitter. Correct. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Every time. Every time. Yeah. And then you like, etched into my brain. You do like the free base jump through that big fucking vent. Yeah. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:39:25 We got to play some gold night. All right. Let's round things out. We're going to do best lions of your lifetime. Ooh. Pass shoot score. Megatron. And Dama Kinsu.
Starting point is 01:39:38 And Frat Stafford. Oh. I feel like Barry was a little too early. Yeah. Barry was a little early. Yeah. I mean, I guess I got to go Megatron. That guy was like for score. He was incredible. Like I remember that like what did they do like that sports science thing? Remember that? Remember that? That was cool. And it was like if you put this like 14 foot dome around him, he could technically come down with the ball. Like that's insane. Like what? Like what? He was so fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:40:13 It's so crazy. I think looking back that he like retired when he was 30. It's insane. I know, that's like the depressing thing about the lions. It's like the two guys that are arguably the best to ever do it, like quit before they. Yeah, they're not getting off of this. Yeah, it's a tough look. Don't say it out loud. Hey, cut me open.
Starting point is 01:40:32 I bleed hot on Lulu Blue. Yes, correct, baby. Hell yeah. All right through and through. Yeah. Like, yeah, it's, and it's a pretty well-known fact. But yeah, and so then I obviously will go Stafford. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:45 shoot and then Were you brought joy when he won in LA or were you just sad? No, I was happy because my whole thing with him is that like that guy hear me out but I think he was one of the big reasons why they were like so below average
Starting point is 01:41:04 for so long but not at the bottom of the barrel because he was so good that like he made up for so many inefficiencies that they never got that like top pick to help him. Like they didn't really. realize how bad they were. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:17 We're close. And I mean that in like the most positive way possible. For sure. And then he like, he never bitched. Yes. God. Ever. I mean, dude, that shoulder is one of my favorite clips ever.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Yeah. And he dislocates a shoulder. He goes back in, throws the game later. Yeah, which is unreal. And he was like, he's, he's a warrior. Like he's the what he battled through. So yeah, I was pulling for him. For sure.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Like Sue won in Tampa too, right? Was he on that Brady team? Ooh, I think so, actually. I think he was. too. Yeah. Which is sick. Yeah, we got to get Megatron back.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Yeah. Come back. I know. It'd be fine. Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. But yeah, no, it's, it's been fun.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Dan Campbell, dude. I'm feeling good. Dude, I don't, I don't even know the guy, but I go through a brickback. Correct. Like, say, I listen to one speech from him and I'm like this. Am I a football guy? Like, I am so, like, I'm so. I'm running routes in the backyard.
Starting point is 01:42:12 That's what I actually said that my dream job in retirement was, I was just going to be like a Walmart greeter but like at Ford Field. Yeah. Like that's what everyone said. Like, I'm just going to go there and like, I need to learn the stadium inside and now and be like, yeah, you take the stairs up there, the elevator up to the third floor, you know. Like that was, that's my dream job. Yeah. Probably with the Lions. Like, I don't know what I would do other than that. Yep. I mean, I don't know enough about. That's pretty good. They would take that. Detroit, Martin. How did you get into football so big, you know, playing so much hockey growing up, you know. It was always just like an outlet for me. Like, I mean, I just, like, I remember, I, I,
Starting point is 01:42:45 I would have, like, when I rented here, my landlord's, it would be like, do you want the NHL package in this? And I'm like, absolutely not. Yeah, NFL Network, baby. Yeah, no chance. They're like, really? You don't want to watch hockey? I'm like, all right, do you think a plumber wants to come home and fix his own toilet? Like, no. Like, I get enough hockey at the rank. Like, I'm good. Like, I'm good. Like, I used to have that conversation with my dad, like, in the summertime, and he wanted to talk hockey about, like, what's going on in the league. And I'm just like, I'm like, I can't, I don't want to, I need a break. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:17 So football was always like, it's probably my favorite sport other than hockey. And there's some days where I liked it more than hockey. Yeah. But yeah, it was always just like my outlet. I always love watching, I mean, I don't even care who's playing. Yeah. But like watching it on Sundays. I was, and we would get a fair amount of Sundays off.
Starting point is 01:43:38 So that was like just decompress and hang. It's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a great off day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but...
Starting point is 01:43:46 Amazing. Amazing. All right, well, Marty, this has been a fucking blast. I think we can all agree that this is the first of many. Yes. When you'll be popping on here. Before we cut you loose, do you want to tell everyone to like and subscribe to your YouTube channel or... Yeah, uh, no.
Starting point is 01:44:00 But, yes. Tell them where to find you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I started this YouTube channel. Can I go into my little mini-sheel? Yes, do the whole... I want the whole spiel. Some people have referred to it as my manifest.
Starting point is 01:44:14 still. Like, I didn't tweet for 10 years. And then all of a sudden, it's like, wham, you know, and then people, I had, like, a lot of people reach out to me and they're like, hey, did your account get hot, you know, I'm like, no, that's actually me. You're like, this is my job. That's all that year. But I started, like, I started brewing on this idea because I was doing it sort of in the broadcast. Yeah. And my thing is that there's so much talent in the NHL that doesn't end up on a score sheet and or doesn't end up shown through traditional avenues of skills. like skating, shooting, past shoot, school. Yeah, skating, shooting, stick handling, for sure.
Starting point is 01:44:50 You know, blah, blah, blah. So, and it's like, I go through and it's like, say there's three superstars in every 10th. There's 700 guys in the league. Yeah. Three superstars, so call that 100. Well, there's 600 guys in the league that are there for a reason. And, and, well, what are they doing?
Starting point is 01:45:06 Because they must be doing something, right? You know? And so I'm like, if I can show, if I can showcase some of that talent and it's like, all right, well, this is a highlight real goal, and deservedly so, like, it's awesome. Like, well, what happened before that to allow that space to be there and all that? And so if I can showcase the talent in the league,
Starting point is 01:45:26 but then also educate, like, the average fans so they can appreciate the game a little bit more, well, then that's awesome. Like, that's a win-win. So it's still very primitive, as you can probably tell. I'm figuring it out. It's very much an experiment. I'm playing with lengths.
Starting point is 01:45:43 I'm playing with how I talk on it. I'm playing with what I do, like goal breakdowns versus I've done a couple player profiles. I'm sitting on a couple more. Nice. Just waiting for the right time to do it. I've got a few other ideas. But yeah, it's on YouTube. It's called the AM Rewind.
Starting point is 01:46:01 The truth of the, well, I don't know if I should say this, but I'll tell you guys after. Yeah, but the AM rewind meeting like the morning after. Yeah, yeah. But also my initials. It's like, hey, we got degrees, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't have to explain. I'm going to be honest with you, phenomenal name. It's a phenomenal name.
Starting point is 01:46:20 But I toyed with a lot of different things, and I'll tell you the Genesis story of it once we're done. But, and I'll probably just have to tell it later. But, yeah, the AM rewind on YouTube, and actually, DeFi's wife, Kat, like I've been on her podcast, and she was the one that encouraged me. She was like, you've got to get this on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:46:41 And I'm like, I started on the Twitter thing and then like I someone was like you got to get on TikTok and just like a piece of me just died on the inside when I signed up for it. But I'm on it. Yes. Yes. So and then like the YouTube I just it's like it's longer form. Right. Like if you want highlights like there's a million places you can go. Yeah for sure. You know like go to NHL.com. But if you want to learn a little bit and watch a little bit like longer form like what we're doing right now. It's not that long. Thank God. But no one wants. wants to listen to me, break down a goal for an hour, you know? And neither do I. Like, I don't want to do that for an hour. But yeah, so it's just, it's been a cool experiment. So, yeah, tune in YouTube channel, the AM rewind. Hell yeah. Incredible. God. Yeah. The shared personal disgust we all have ourselves for getting on TikTok and YouTube is really special. Yep. Not being said, we should co-post some shit because then we'll help everybody. Yeah, yeah, the internet can be a horrible, horrible place. It sure can. But it can be the best place ever too. Yeah. And hopefully you all felt
Starting point is 01:47:46 that way about this. Yeah. Nice, Dan. Amazing. Dude. What a sign off. Great job. That was awesome. Huge, huge thank you to Alec Martinez. Such a fucking good homie. So good on the show. And confirmed, going to be back way more off. Dude, playoffs. We'll get him dialed in for playoffs. Hopefully he's not coming out of his 20th surgery. Marty? We got to get the bang bang going too. That's not the first time. I've heard of that. I have a friend who lives in Rochester, and he told me about that years ago, and I'm like, wow. Okay. It's a regional thing. Double dinner. Double dinner is a huge move. We should do that. We should do some playoff recording and then double. Actually, we should, since the playoff games are so late,
Starting point is 01:48:21 we should bang, bang, wow, watching playoff games with him and then come record. It is my buddy. It is my n-h-l guy, who is an NHL guy, and jumping on the show, and here he is making my dreams come true. Can't believe it. It's awesome. What a dude. Thank you so much. Let's take a quick ad break and and jump on back. Everyone knows that Bauer is the best in the game when it comes to hockey gear. I wear it head to toe, but now I get to cross my loves of hockey in fashion and talk about Bauer's new spring apparel collection. Yes, we know that all of these athletic brands make a lot of these cool, more casual
Starting point is 01:48:56 spring collections, but they never quite get it right. Well, let me tell you what Bauer has. You know me if you watch the show. I'm a fancy boy. I wear tweed pants. I love designer clothing. and sometimes I just want to be comfy and I want to be able to combine
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Starting point is 01:49:25 in the spring collection, it's unbelievable. You've seen me always rocking the Bauer athletic wear in the gym. Their shorts, their tops. It's all amazing. But when it comes to hoodies, t-shirts, crew necks, whatever you want, where you can take that athletic lifestyle from the gym or the rink
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Starting point is 01:49:57 From the rink to the street, Bauer has you covered. Shop the new spring apparel collection at bower.com. We are back at the university. We were on a nice little sabbatical. Nice little vacation. We went to Utah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Went to the States. I was sitting in a nice robe. You were? I was. And it's time for Professor Puttline to be back for us to go through our picks for the weekend of how you should make some money on BetMGM. And we're dabbling again in a situation where the Friday fate continues to be the hottest thing since Mother's Biscuits.
Starting point is 01:50:36 Absolutely brilliant. Fresh out the oven. But first, the Mega Parlay recap. Sends, no, aisles, yes. I hate when you lose the first game. Whether you just keep reading, you fucking twat. Ducklings, no, wild, no. Stars, yes, canes, yes.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Jackets, no. Sabers, yes, always yes. Blues, yes. Preads, no. Avs, no. Wings, no. Jesus, wings. Mammoth, yes. Flames, yes. Nice finished, gentleman. and seven. Just above 500. Just how we like it. Just how we like it. We're not terrible. We're not great, but we're better than bad. It's fine. Everything's fine. And that's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:51:14 What is not fantastic and we are not striving for 500 is the life on the line palais, which is supposed to win. The life on the line parley is supposed to win. And it is not won. And it was aisles, yes, caps yes, peds, no, jackets. I think I went oh and two. Daniel, you did. First time in my life. Yes. And I didn't want us to bring it up. But you. After you have to hold me accountable. But I will say you have gone oh and two. Several times.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Several times. Welcome. Welcome, Daniel. It feels terrible down there. Welcome, Daniel. Radio Watford. It's terrible. Now, what is not terrible is the Friday fade.
Starting point is 01:51:53 As I said, we gave you the rags over the hocks and the rags won six one. Last place team does not win unless you Friday fade them and then they do win. Truly brilliant. This week, another two gamer on Friday makes our job both more difficult and easy. That's very true. Flyers at Islanders, Blues at Ducks. Because the Flyers have surged so significantly and are back in a wildcard race, I don't think how there's any world where we don't say the blues over the first place in the Pacific Ducks is not our Friday fade.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Therefore, we shall take the Friday fade to Anaheim right after a trip to Disneyland. And take the St. Louis Blues. On a West Coast swing, the Blues, on a West Coast swing, no universe. Do they win this game? Possibly win. No universe. Couldn't possibly. Do the Blues win this game?
Starting point is 01:52:48 So we will select them with the Friday fade. Saturday Selly, we gave you Sir Tage Thompson. The Sabers won three, two in a shootout on Saturday. Tade's had the shootout winner. That does not count, unfortunately. Which is bullshit. Frankly, I think that's fine. fucking rubbish.
Starting point is 01:53:06 That's rubbish. Tage Thompson used his stick and put a puck in the back of the net. And then celebrated. And he then, he then celebrated the goal, which is the entire point of the Saturday cell. Absolute rubbish. Who do we have?
Starting point is 01:53:20 What are our options for this Saturday? Some people to keep an eye on this Saturday. Goal Carfield at the Devils because he is on Rocket Watch officially. Wow. Dylan Gunther at the Canucks, the lowly Canucks. juice versus the Leafs at home. I just feel like the Kings need to win and Juice must score for the Kings to beat the Leafs
Starting point is 01:53:40 who are terrible. McDavid versus Vegas, he always. He loves a game. He loves a game and he's been on fire. And then Cutter, Cutter is nearing 40. Does it? Is he very close to 40? Which he will get.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Cutter versus the flames. If I may. Please. Choosing Cole Coffield for the Saturday. He is Mr. Saturday. Yes. and he paid us this on it not two weeks ago. Saturday games, 26 goals.
Starting point is 01:54:08 He has that bet bears fruit nearly every time. It feels like playing with fire. We've started calling him Mr. Saturday and now we're going to do it again. I love the peck though. Yes, of course. It was worthy of a discussion. I love it. I do love the vibes cheering on our mate.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Adrian Kempi versus the Leafs and a must win game. Surely he'll score. I do also love friend of the program, Cotagotier, Chasing 40. Those would be my picks. Between juice and cutter. Coal juice. Oh, I... I...
Starting point is 01:54:42 Listen to Saturday. Does it feel like we're testing fate? Yes. Or does it feel... You fucking... You're listening to Fitt. You absolute morons. Listen to Fee. It's yelling at you.
Starting point is 01:54:53 He scores every Saturday. He's chasing 50. Pick Cole Corfield. Yes, because chasing 40 is cool, but you know, it's cooler. Chasing 50. A billion. A billion. Billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Billion dollars. I don't know. I feel, oh, fucking hell. I fucking, let's let's just let it fucking ride. The Saturday Selly will be Mr. Saturday himself. Cole Cawfield to score and potentially get his 50th against the New Jersey Devils. We will take Cole Cawfield as our Saturday Selling, Mr. Saturday himself. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:55:33 But we're rooting for our mate. Adrian Campi, goal against, and must win. We must win, must win, must win. The Sunday hat-trick parley. We gave you the Keynes money line. We gave you under 6.5 and we gave you a Seth Jarvis point. Because we needed to burn and learn. Remember, we needed to burn and learn. It was under 6.5. Javi had an assist. And the Habs 1 3-1. We were only burnt. We were double-burned. It was a second-degree. We were double-burned. We need to fucking get back on track with this. Second degree. This is awesome. This Sunday. Wild at wings, Panthers at pens, Bruids at flyers, canes at sands, devils at habs, caps at rags, blues at avs. It seemed to me that the scorching caps would vanquish the rubbish rags.
Starting point is 01:56:20 I feel the same way. Caps money line, however, no, I feel the same. Caps money line. Under 6.5, Strompoint. do we I like it I like it
Starting point is 01:56:37 I like the Strohm point if Ovi scores it'll be on the Strom point is a great point So I love it But we are taking the under
Starting point is 01:56:45 It's up to you I think we take the under Me too LT LT Chesty Caps money line under Dillon Stone Point
Starting point is 01:56:52 Take it to the bank Put it in your pipe Smoke it by a fire Now For this week's Mega Parley Live on a Beach 15 games
Starting point is 01:57:01 Let us begin Come home one time. Dr. Watkins. Yes. Are you ready? Yeah. Wings at Rags. Oh.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Wings. Yes. Daniel. Wild at Sends. Give me the wild. Ooh, a little bounce back. Yeah. Christopher.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Avs at Stars. What to game. What to game. Stars been terrible at home. Feels like almost the game they get right on. Give me the Stars. Give me the Stars in that one. Dr. Watkins.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Bruins, Bruins, at Bolts. Bolts. Daniel, cats at pens. I think the pens stay red hot. Yes, yes, sir. Yes, yes, yes, pens. Christopher, habs at devil. Surely the habs cannot lose this game.
Starting point is 01:57:43 I will take the haps. Dr. Watkins, sabers at caps. Ooh. Sabers. Yes. Chalky. That's crape. Then it's a bounceback win for the caps.
Starting point is 01:57:53 They burn alone. Doctor, I like where your head's out. It's brilliant. Daniel, Isles at Cates. I believe this is a must-win game for the aisles. I think they can do it. I'm taking the aisles. Maybe they burn and learn. Maybe they burn and learn. Surely. The Christopher Jets at
Starting point is 01:58:08 Jackets. Oh. Give me the jackets. It just feels like they need one. They need one so badly. Get in! Get in! Watkins, mammoth at Canucks. Mammoth. Mammoth? Daniel Leif's at Kings. We already know. Not even thinking about it. They need it. They're getting it. Christopher Knights at Oilers. I just
Starting point is 01:58:26 the knights need it, but they're not going to have it. They will not have it. Give me the oilers. Not even with torts. Wow. Give me the oilers. Watkins, flames at ducks. The flames, the do. Yes, yes. Fucking hell. Daniel Preds at Sharks.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Sharks. I declared them dead. They got it. They are not. They control their destiny. And this is the team they must control it against. Christopher Hawks at Spunk. Give me the Spunk.
Starting point is 01:58:49 They need it as well. I feel like every time the spunk play in your picking, you pick it's hard not to do it. Same with him roughly 95% of the time. Professor Feedy is a big spunker. He's a big spunker. He spunks every time. He spunks every time. Pervert.
Starting point is 01:59:02 He is a pervert. As am I. The sky are pervents. You two are an educated gentleman of Oxford. We are pervents. Live on a beach. Wings, wild, stars, bolts, pens, habs, sabers, aisles, jackets, mammoth, kings, oilers, flames, sharks, spunk.
Starting point is 01:59:18 Surely. Life on the line. Get your act together. Four games, four money lines. Get your act together. Do you want to go first? Yes. As penance.
Starting point is 01:59:29 As penance for the losses? I feel as though. it needs to happen. My first, their goalie is fighting. Perhaps it's good lighting, but the Rangers now don't look so shit. Lafie's got 50 points. He's the star of this joint.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Unfortunate, the rest of the team has quit. But it's no longer march. A playoff thirst could be parched. Detroit needs to pick it up just a smidge. But if the drought gets to year 10 and the wings miss again, these fans will jump off a fucking bridge. Red Wings Money Lide.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Come on, Detroit. Come on. Please, get it. Come on, wheeze. Come on, weez. Christ. Christ. Next leg, next leg.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Wearing only one sweater and delivering playoff hype, you only think of Mr. Crosby. He's simply not to wear multiple sweaters type. That would be Mr. Cosby. Paglia's money line Pagland, like number two Oh God Oh no, it's me
Starting point is 02:00:51 Dear me Our third money line Jobs on the line But don't worry, everything's fine The Kings need to win every game Good news, it's the Leafs Isn't that a relief? For this team is an absolute
Starting point is 02:01:11 shame Monner is gone Soon poppy before long The fan base must truly be torn They're so good at being bad Perhaps a new profession could be had Time to dabble in humiliation porn Kings money line
Starting point is 02:01:31 Come on kings Just think about it Come on wings, come on kings A leafs, you could do something different You're used to the humiliation Final leg Final leg. The mammoth say playoffs are basically in full swing.
Starting point is 02:01:47 While championship teams say you must be joking. But Utah knows how to simulate the real thing. This is the land that invented Soki. Saw it from a mile away. Just a mile away. Yeah. Well, surely that is your four-leg parley winner. Life on the line.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Brilliant. Mammoth, Penn's, Kings, wins. Take it to the bank. Take it. Step your game up. Step your game up. We're supposed to win. Class dismissed. And let's get back to the regular program.
Starting point is 02:02:20 And, wow. Thank you to the professors. Thanks, professors. As always, those are, take those right to the bank. I love those guys. I always were.
Starting point is 02:02:28 I love those guys. All right. Nod ice. Let's get in some nod ice. We, I think we said on one of the pause recently that we saw Hail Mary. Have you seen Hail Mary? Yeah, I saw it.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Thursday that I did like the old school like the night before it releases. Remember when that used to be a thing? It was like midnight. Oh dude. Midnight release was now it's like there's like oh yeah four o'clock on a Thursday. I saw it's a Tuesday. I saw Tuesday at four. I saw every single Lord of the Rings at midnight. Did you? Wow. It was sick. I'm getting too old for it honestly. I am pretty fucking sick. Yeah. I was getting with all the chicks. I bet. Yeah. I'd walk into school and be like a cell lower the rings last night, midnight. It was up till 3.30 in the morning. I call my, you're like I call my penis. And they're like, that doesn't sound advice.
Starting point is 02:03:12 That sounds horrible. And I'm like this, no, no, it glows when dangers are around. And they're like, well, okay, I'm back. Yeah, yeah, that's actually a weapon, dude. Who's radioactive now? I went to return to the king at midnight with Dan, presumably, I can remember if you were with us. And at school the next morning, I fell asleep in like first or second block because we were reading. It was in English class and they were like, just read a little bit.
Starting point is 02:03:36 So I fell asleep. And then someone tried to wake me up and shout out Mrs. Rosenberg. She was like, she knew I had seen Lord of Rings at midnight, and she was like, let him sleep. Nice. Did she do that? Cinema fan. The Rosenberg's rock. Shout out.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Shout out your eyes. Okay. So we've seen, if you haven't seen Hail Mary by now, are you listening to this on fucking Thursday? Yeah. I think I said it right after. Spoilers incoming, right? No, no, no. No, no.
Starting point is 02:03:58 No, no. No, no. No, no. I think I said it. I was really sharp on my assessment of that movie. I was like, I think it's getting a little bit overhyped as far as the reaction because people are desperate for a fucking blockbuster that knocked our tits off and here we are titless because it did exactly that is it the greatest movie of all time no but it didn't have to be because it's a
Starting point is 02:04:19 fucking blast and it's worth every second dude i saw dan a uh stat of that was like this is the second movie along with oppenheimer or it said only two movies hail mary and oppenheimer have grossed whatever 80 million domestically opening weekend in the last decade that aren't sequel reboot spin off whatever like Only two original ideas that in the last decade, I was like, what? Devastating. Anyway, the movie, I love the book, but the movie is made perfectly funny by the writer of the directors, but one Ryan Gosling, who is perfect.
Starting point is 02:04:55 What a dream. Perfect for this role. And Dan had said to me recently that Gosling kind of found his lane here in his old, in his later path of his career, you know. And he was joking like, God, his, Gossing's agent earlier must have just been like, You are fucking killing me, dude. Well, man, it's like this, if we're going to go through, we're going to pull a Bill Simmons here.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Shout up Bill Simmons. He recently made one of his great acting comp videos where he compared Russell Crow to Shaq. Where he was like, truly in the early- Was Russell Crow and Kazam or whatever? Oh, that would be hilarious. That would have been unbelievable. Yeah, Shazam.
Starting point is 02:05:32 That would have been unbelievable. All right. There was a, in the early 2000s, absolute height of their game, truly dominant run. Best in the game, Shack was undeniable, could not be beat. Russell Crow had Gladiator, a beautiful mind, master commander. Like he was... L.A. Confidential. LA Confidential. It was unstoppable. Then they kind of stopped training a little bit, maybe packed on a few pounds, let the game slip a little bit. But then he was like, but then, and like,
Starting point is 02:06:00 I forget what it was with Russell Crow. I was like, the nice guys comes out. There's like Shack's Miami Heat Days. It was like, it couldn't really move as well, but he was fucking putting on an unbelievable shift, shift got a fucking championship, you know, and I was like, wow, this is unbelievable. I need to come up with
Starting point is 02:06:13 like the hockey player comp for gossip. Of Gosling. Yeah. Because in my opinion, it's Gosling early days. We had, Remember the Titans.
Starting point is 02:06:26 And we had half Nelson, Lars and the Real Girl, a couple of my favorite movies. Half Nelson's a little intense in what I'm saying. Let's go to the notebook. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:36 Where he showed, He shows heart, he shows compassion and the emotions, but he's always so funny and charming. He is the comedic relief. In there we had Blue Valentine, I'm gonna put half Nesslin is a tough movie. And we had murder by numbers if you've seen that. Sandra Bullock, unbelievable film. These were the movies that were like, is Gosling Fracture? Brow in there too.
Starting point is 02:07:01 Great movie. Anthony Hopkins, Roseman Pike. These are the movies where, His agent, and I'm sure Ryan were like, are you, are you like Leo? Are you a drama guy? Like, what are we doing here? And that's where I always reference when his agent must have been like, will this motherfucker do a blockbuster film for the love of fucking God and get us paid? Because he was just ripping indies. Like getting Oscar Noms, but he was ripping Indies for a decade. And it was like, what the fuck are we doing here? Then crazy stupid love came out, made him an international star. And that, to me, was. international star making because it was his wheelhouse. And like I said, remember the Titans, the notebook, Lars and the Real Girl, his wheelhouse, heart with comedy. Crazy Stupid Love was heart with comedy. That made him a star. But then they not made the mistake because he can do it all. but they were like, all right, you are a superstar, A-list movie star. We're going to put you in these
Starting point is 02:08:00 serious, gritty, dramatic roles. We got Drive. We got Blade Runner 2049, one of my favorite movies. We got first man. But it was like, is this where you shine? And then he blew our tits off again with the nice guys, with Barbie, with Fall Guy. And now with this. This is Gosling's fucking fastball. Yes, it is, dude. I will say, though, that Fall Guy, it did not do as well at the box office.
Starting point is 02:08:32 But I saw the movie. I like the movie. I think that people were a little over exposed to him at that point. Post-Barby, he should have taken a break. You know what? I think that's a great and astute take. I think it is a shame because that movie not doing better at the box office is one of the great tragedies of the last 10 years in film.
Starting point is 02:08:52 Fall Guy is fucking incredible. It's great. And the chemistry he and Emily Blunt have is some of the best I've seen in forever. And also, I have watched that movie. I'm not kidding. planes are included in this. Okay. I have watched Fall Guy at least 10 times.
Starting point is 02:09:09 Holy shit. That movie is so fucking funny and it is so worthy of the watch. It's a blast, dude. But you know that is a, it's a reboot of an old series, too, weirdly. But it's original enough because I feel like nobody really. No one knew that. Yeah. His physical comedy in that, that might be his best physical comedy.
Starting point is 02:09:29 I mean, this one's pretty close. But the physical comedy he delivers in the Fall Guy. is fucking out of this world. Okay, so the three of us are... I'm going to come up with the perfect NHL player comp to what happened here. The three of us are right now going to decide on... In order, Gostling's top ten roles, and we have to agree.
Starting point is 02:09:49 We don't have to do them in order, but we're going to get one through ten, and we have to agree, and it's like a blind ranking, except we... It's not blind. Okay, amazing. You got it. Okay, what do you... I'm not going to list all these, but you guys can see them. What do you think is definitely...
Starting point is 02:10:00 And these aren't all of his movies. Like, we've left out a place beyond the pines here. I just don't think that's... I mean, I haven't seen every single one of these films. That's okay, me neither. Yeah. So, which ones do you think are for sure in his best roles? I got to put...
Starting point is 02:10:12 I got a ride for drive. Okay, we've got a drive mention... Doesn't even speak in drive. We've got to drive mention... He's mute. Movies are about visual. Visual then. We're talking about Ryan Gosling performances.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Okay, well, we just have a vote for drive, yeah. No, okay. Project Hail Mary. Project Hail Mary. Okay, we've got to vote for Hail Mary. We've got, I'm going to put the notebook in there. Okay. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:10:37 We also didn't mention La La Land, La Land. I'm looking at the list that you've typed up. How is La La Land not on this list? It is on the list. Oh, I just, I skipped over it. Sorry. It's on the, La La Land was, in that, in my rant there, was in the same category as where I put the nice guys in the, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Okay. The Big Short, you love that performance. I'm putting in the big short. Okay. 100%. Um, what about crazy stupid love? Uh, I'm not, I'm too much of an ensemble for me. Okay, I'm also not going to put that in.
Starting point is 02:11:09 I am going to put in Blade Runner 2049. Okay. Even though it's, even though it's not his fastball, his, his, where I believe is his best wheelhouse, I am going to put that performance. All right, I'm putting in fallout. I mean, he took a punch to the face from Harrison Ford on that film, like for real. Yeah, he sure did. So, like, he gets it for me. Um, I'm going to put in the nice guys, okay?
Starting point is 02:11:26 Great movie. Great movie. And everybody's pissed they have not made a sequel yet. I would love a... They're like it would be a slam dunk. God damn. Okay? What about Barbie?
Starting point is 02:11:35 What about La La Land? Dude. I am going to say... I am going to say both of those. I also some of the... I'm going to go back to the early days. Lars and the Real Girl for me. We didn't even mention the aides of March.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Oh, fuck I'm about that movie. The Cooney one. Yep. He is fantastic in the Ides of March. Okay. Are we putting that in? I like that more than a fracture. And I love that.
Starting point is 02:12:01 fraction. Yep. And I, dude, half Nelson and Blue Valentine's so good, but I need to stick to my guns where his best performances are his wheelhouse and those movies are not. Okay, so what, so we, do you want to put, we've named 10, do you want to put in La La Land and Crazy Stupid Love? They have to be in here, okay. All right, so. Actually, not Crazy Stupid Love for me.
Starting point is 02:12:19 No, me neither. I adore crazy stupid love, but I don't think it's one of his best. And he's not in enough, right? Even though it's, it's on it. The thing I remember crazy stupid love was, uh, he takes his shirt off. Yeah. But didn't they like digitally enhance the abs a little bit? No, Oh, don't tell me that. That's what I heard.
Starting point is 02:12:33 Was like, no, he worked really hard on that. I'm sure. But I think they just like did the... Probably just good lighting. Guys, good lights. This is, I don't want to talk out of school. And I won't mention who the actress is, but I was drinking at a bar. Shout out, rest in peace, the den.
Starting point is 02:12:47 And there was a buddy of mine who was a digital effects artist. And his entire job for like two months was digitally removing the acne scars from a certain famous actress's face. That's awesome. And I was like, wow, really? is like, yeah, that's what I do. And I'm like, that kind of shit happens all over the, all over the business. And then we're like, she's perfect. Yeah. I will go on record to say, I don't feel that it's necessary. I like when I see human people on camera. I think it's nervous executives, but anyway. Okay. Eliminate one of these performances. Ides of March, Hail Mary, Blade Runner, Lars and the Real
Starting point is 02:13:22 Girl, Fall Guy, Drive the Nice Guys, Barbie, the notebook, the big short, La La Land. The Notebook. Oh. No. Wait, wait, wait. Can I say that if we're going to... What's going on with this fucking hairbrained list? What are the ones that are indented, the ones that are in? This is disord.
Starting point is 02:13:49 These are possible top tens. That's why I flagged those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we have 11. We flagged 11. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11. Got it.
Starting point is 02:14:03 I mean, man, for me, it's probably the notebook. Like, he's so good in the notebook. He's great in all of these. But is the notebook one of, is the notebook a movie that we all absolutely adore and we're boosting his performance or is it one of his best performances? I think it's the former. My only case against Big Short is that similar to crazy stupid love, it's a little too much of an ensemble cast for me.
Starting point is 02:14:27 I hear that. I also will say, we just watched that recently. He is the star of that movie. And I always forget about it. Yeah. Like you, I, really? Is it Christian Bail in that film? Yeah, no, but dude, like he narrates the entire movie.
Starting point is 02:14:38 Like, you kind of forget that he is the main character. I know, I know, I know. But Bail's performance. Bail's performance is probably the- I guess I could lose Iads of March. I love that movie. I'm down, let's lose Iads of March. I'm glad it got mentioned.
Starting point is 02:14:49 Let's remove it. That's fine. Okay. This is going to take way too long. Well, no, watch this. Number 10, you want the notebook because... My pick would be the notebook. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Okay, so for again, those listening, we've in here, we've got La La Land, the Big Short, The Notebook, Barbie, The Nice Guys, Drive, Fall Guy, Lars and the Real Girl, and Blade Runner 2049, Project Tell Mary, and that's it. Again, my problem with Big Short, and it's a great movie, is that it's, it's almost like a, like, it was so topical when it came out. Yeah. It feels like it's almost like a dot. You know when, like, movies, they talk about something historical that just happened, and then it feels like it's kind of like dusted? Can I give you some homework? When was the last time you watched that movie?
Starting point is 02:15:34 When it came out? Dude, I'm begging you. Watch it again and you're going to text me immediately and go, holy shit, I forgot how fucking got this is. You know what? I'm actually kind of upset because I went to this movie. I used to work at the Arklight, rest in peace. Hell yeah. Which one, like the Dome?
Starting point is 02:15:49 Well, so I worked at the Dome. Then I transferred to the one in Pasadena because I lived closer. Then I ghosted and quit the job because I got another job, but I kept my badge. So I would go to the Arklight in Hollywood, show my badge. and get into free movies and like you for four years I did this you killed the dome single-handed why did you stop what happened what do you mean well I'll explain I went to see the big short I left the theater and I left my fucking badge there somewhere are you so that yeah that movie destroyed my free god damn it maybe that maybe that's why I don't like the big
Starting point is 02:16:23 short dude daddy's an unacceptable unacceptable sorry arc light de couriering corporation I I I'm gonna to stand by my pick is the notebook. Are you guys saying that the big short is next? Or do you think La La Land maybe? La Land maybe? Why did you say it? Lala Land? Only because of the not talking.
Starting point is 02:16:41 I mean, I'm with you. I love Drive. Do you think Drive's like one though? Do you have Drive like... No, I don't think Drive is one, but I would put Drive top three. Okay, okay. His performances? This movie, let me tell you...
Starting point is 02:16:52 I think you love the movie. I do love the movie, but I will tell you this. Before Drive, I always kind of side-eyed Gosling and I was... Because I wasn't that aware. Sure. But I was a young man and I was also, you know, he was a Disney kid. And I was always kind of like, he's a little bitch, you know. Kind of like, this guy might be a little bitch.
Starting point is 02:17:08 Yeah. But then I saw Drive and I'm like, he's not a little bitch. He's awesome. I think he might be my favorite guy. Okay, so we're going notebook 10. In general. I'm not talking actor. I think this guy.
Starting point is 02:17:17 He might be my favorite guy. And then La La La Land 8 or maybe La La Land 9. I put La La Land is 8. Big Short 9. Lala Land 8. And then maybe Lars. Do we all? have to agree?
Starting point is 02:17:31 Yeah. How are we ever going to agree when Drive is three? Well, because we're going to meet in the middle somewhere. Let's put Drive at 5. I'm going to give you a handshake and slit your wrist with a straight razor. That's fair. Drive is 5. Boom.
Starting point is 02:17:44 Okay. Drive 5. I'll live with Drive is 5. So we need 7 and 6. Yep. I would say maybe Lars. Lard. Maybe Blade Runner, too.
Starting point is 02:17:53 I actually don't think his performance is like, I think the other ones are more Gossil. I'd put six on, I'd put seven Blade Runner. Me too. Me too. Seven Blade Runner, six Lars and the Real Girl. Five drive. And now we have Barbie, the nice guys, Hail Mary, and Fall Guy.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I'm going to go Fall Guy next. Ev? Actually, I would probably, personally, I would go Barbie next. Oh, okay. No. No, I'm sorry. Barbie is one or two, guys. Okay, so let's go.
Starting point is 02:18:21 He revolutionized. Fall Guy four. It's tough to be the white guy when you say that Ken was the best part of Barbie. It is. He wasn't the best. But it's, he's close. It's pretty close. Look, I completely agree with what you just said.
Starting point is 02:18:34 But it is undeniable how good he was. Oh, dude, he is literally showstopping. It's unbelievable. This is a common thing with movies. Usually the lead character is not always the most enjoyable person. It's the side characters to get the most fun. So that just happened to be the way it broke down. Okay, let's go.
Starting point is 02:18:47 Top three is Barbie, nice guys, Hail Mary. What order do you want? Is nice guys or fall guy better? Ooh, I like, oh, man, tough one. Both awesome. He's so... I'm gonna say, I like where we're at. Fall Guy 4.
Starting point is 02:19:03 This is what I would do. I would personally go Fall Guy 4. I would go Barbie 3, the nice guys two, Hail Mary 1. But we can only go 2. We've got to meet at 2 in the middle on Barbie. And I'm happy to go Barbie 2. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:20 So let's go, the nice guys 3. Is Hail Mary 1? Unbelievable showing by the nice guys. I agree. I thought we were going to go nice guys 1. It's really good. I could go nice guys 1. No, I genuinely, and it's smell.
Starting point is 02:19:32 100% recency of ice, and I just went on this whole diatribe about how I think people are over. I think that this is objectively Ryan Gosling's best rule. Can you live with Hail Mary one? I will say with the caveat that this is very much happening today. Yeah. Like you said, I think time will tell whether this, Hell Mary becomes like a seminal part of his auvoir. I do think that it is a great return to form because, as I said, I think Fall Guy didn't do well because we were a little bit like we've had enough.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Like Ken was great. We need a break. Yep. Okay. And so, yeah. I'm with you. I actually agree with that. So we go, but Ryan Gossing's 10 best rolls of all time according to us and what we agree on. The notebook 10, the big short nine, La La Land 8, Blade Runner 2049, 7, Lars and the Real Girl, 6, drive 5, fall guy 4, the nice guys 3, Barbie 2, Hail Mary 1.
Starting point is 02:20:24 All of this to say, I know there's going to be a lot of people who love movies like half Nelson and Blue Valentine and so do I. This is all in the context of us saying this type of role is his wheelhouse. Yeah, which I can't believe crazy too and Blade Runner for sneaking in the top 10
Starting point is 02:20:43 because they're so good. And I'll say I'll make an appeal, Ryan, if you're watching. We'd love to have you on the show. He's a Canadian boy. We know you're Canadian, you probably like hockey, I guess. He just went on fucking the New Heights, which I'll love,
Starting point is 02:20:57 love those boys, love your show. Love you guys, love your show. Um, but we're the hockey show. Yep. We're the hockey show in Hollywood. Yep. We have mutual interests. Absolutely. Ryan, get your ass on here. It'll be great. Why not? Okay, let's close this shit out with a nice game of connective tissue. I have the game. For those who don't know, this is a game where we connect two players' names. We once did Brandon, Carl Logan, Cachor. You can see other names connect. I'm going to give the bio of two players and see if Chris can get it. Christopher, are you ready? Yes. Here is our, I literally forget who I have, but hopefully I'll get it with the, I didn't write it down.
Starting point is 02:21:30 But I think I'm going to know it. No, I know it. Ready? Yeah. Our connective tissue. A Massachusetts, let me try that again, a Massachusetts native who stayed local and became an all-hockey East player with the BCE Eagles and then rolled to success into his professional career winning a gold medal. He would then, that's the ship. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:52 Thank you. He would then go on to be traded from the flames to the Toronto, Maple Leafs, where he would be named the 18th captain in team history just before marrying a lovely Hollywood actress. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. So again, while Chris thinks, here's our connected tissue. A Massachusetts, I'm having trouble with Massachusetts. Yeah, you are.
Starting point is 02:22:16 A Massachusetts native who stayed local and became all hockey east with the BC Eagles and then rolled his success in his professional career, winning a gold medal. He then would go on to be traded from the flames to the Toronto Maple Leafs, where he would be named the 18th captain in team history just before marrying a lovely Hollywood actress. Okay, I'm trying to think who played on BC that won a gold medal. And did you say Olympic gold medal or that's up for me to decide? It is an Olympic gold medal. Okay.
Starting point is 02:22:46 So who went to BC on that team? Okay. I'm just trying to think of the lines. This was a really easy one, but a really fun one. Oh, I think I got it. Well, I think the second one is Dionne Funf. Okay.
Starting point is 02:23:16 And who was the BC kid on that team? This is embarrassing for you. I think of all the BU boys. That's what's rattling. Oh, Boldie. Well, he's not the only one. but but that's right right matt bull dion finuff yeah good job Matt bull deon finuff that's great that's a great one dad that is good stuff well done
Starting point is 02:23:38 one of your quickest ones yeah well only because I got dion and then you give me good hits yeah you know because I was like I once I was shrunk to the USA team pool I was like okay beautiful stuff beautiful episode huge thank you to Alec Martinez he will be on very very soon folks we love you let's tuck into a long weekend of hockey where a lot of things are balance. Make sure to give us five stars, Spotify, Apple, subscribe to the YouTube, even though we know we hate saying it. It's terrible, but we need your help. We love you guys. Go buy some merch. Have a great, safe, fun weekend. Stay horny. Love some hockey. Watch some hockey. And skate hard.

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