Empty Netters Podcast - Montreal Wants To Clinch At Home And Vegas Gets The Avs

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

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Ice is ready, babes, and we're back with another live episode of the MGNators podcast, brought to you by BetMGM. We're rocking remote. C.P. Are you in Ecuador? Yes. No, I left, dude. I was here. I mean, listen. I figured out I'd bop. I'm hearing all the craziness. There's a chance you get kidnapped. So we just got to be sure. That's true. That's true. And we cannot, that is not something we can afford at this juncture, Dan.

at this juncture. You know what? I'd be fine with it as long as it doesn't happen during the show. Actually, that would be Numbis. If someone busted in here and kidnapped me

live on camera, it would go to the fucking moon. So that would be a viral, viral clip. So if there's any cartel in Ecuador, CP, just go ahead and say that address real quick. Yep.

La Pama, La Poma Polo Club. Come on down. Scoop them up. Scoop him up. All right, well, we got a great show today. We were supposed to be joined by Ross Colton of the Colorado Avalanche, but he's got practice.

So we're going to get him on next week while they're waiting for the Western Conference final to start, which actually probably won't be too much longer because we had another elimination last night. The Anaheim duckies are dead. The Vegas Golden Knights played some duck hunter. Bang. Ducks are out. Vegas through. We're going to get to that.

But the only series in the second round, remaining. Montreal Canadiens, Buffalo Sabres. We had a crazy beginning to the game. You've been to first period. And it's tough because I'd love to get Laz back on here and sewer him because I think two goals on the first three shots. Maybe it might have been three of four or something like that. Yeah.

It was three of four. Doe Bash lets in three of his first four. It was a one goal game. It was three to two. And Laz was like, you have to yank this guy. and I replied to him and I was like it's a one goal game and he was like I don't care three or four and then wouldn't you know it

Dobesh slams the door doesn't let in a single another goal and the Habs beat the shit out of the Sabres six to three to take a three two series lead and I look like a genius Las looks like an idiot and dude you

credit to you and dance on my grave too because I think statistically I completely agreed with Laz and I think statistically that it doesn't go the way it went last night. But that's that that's sports baby. And you get to dance on all of our graves. But that was one of the craziest decisions I've ever seen. Because you could be winning. And I would have yanked him. Because I'm like, dude,

we can't have every shot going in. You've played every minute. This is so fine. This wedge wood has been pulled. Like everybody gets pulled when you're giving up a billion goals. It's actually for the better. So I was like, this is the worst decision I've ever seen. And then you are, you are correct. You and Marty St. Louis are dialed because not only do, did he shut the door, but he made 23rd saves, like made monster saves off the page breakway, which I want to talk about later. But yeah, it's fucking spot on decision, even though I thought that was bat shit crazy in the moment. Yeah. It's truly insane. Like, how crazy is that? Like, you have to pull him. Like, This was the most wild behavior I've ever seen.

And then he was like, just kidding. I will save every shot from now on. And my thoughts on the way that was going were if the habs ever take the lead in this game, it's over because they were like, Buffalo scoring every shot. And Montreal was hanging around, hanging around. And I was like, God, if you're the sabers and the habs get the lead in this game, you are going to blow your head off. And then the second, the haps took the lead, I was like, we're dead.

and then and then that was all that was all she wrote pal and it was it was quick it wasn't painless but it was uh it was it was surgical i'll say that i'm not i don't know if you can hear me CP

but um like i'm not talking because all the sound is looping and I can't hear shit I can hear you perfectly um and I think everyone can hear us perfectly do you have your YouTube volume on

don't have don't don't even have it open. Okay. Well, yeah, I got you loud and clear. I think I fixed it, so we're good. So everything still remains perfect for the stream, and that's all that matters. Tell me what you just said a second ago, because I had Armageddon going on in my ears, and I couldn't hear a thing. Okay.

Basically, I said that I was completely on Laz's side, and I think that you, correctly get to, you and Marty St. Louis get to now dance on graves because of what happened. But yeah, that was, that is under no circumstances, do you leave that goalie in after giving up three goals on four shots? He's played every minute of the playoffs. This is a easy

pull where you can, because it's a one goal game, you can still easily win this game. Once you get a new look in net, statistically that's always the play. It almost never goes the way it did, but congrats to you and the haves because holy fuck, did you pull? You needed a fucking, you know, in D&D when you're like,

I got to roll a fucking 84 on this fucking 1,000-sided die to cast my spell, or whatever the fuck happens in that game. Bang, you guys rolled it 84 and did it. What's so nuts is it was such a flex by St. Louis because the series is tied. Yeah, yeah. It's like he, it's not like they had this big series lead. And he's like, I trust dope. best. He's going to get us out of this. And even if he doesn't, whatever, the series gets tied up.

Like, you go down in the series if you get this wrong. And he was just like, doesn't matter to me. It's a shootout. It's a one goal game. This is a crazy first period. I'm sticking with our guy. I probably would have done the same thing based on what I said, but that's an idiot sitting on his couch watching the game. And the fact that St. Louis did it. And then not only did it win, but Doebusch was a monster for the rest of the game is crazy. Dude, it was nuts, man. Because no joke, I hear your logic about the series. I was thinking to myself, if you're the haves, I kind of want to get into this later,

but if you're the habs, you're thinking we're winning game six, obviously. So you can lose this game, kind of. And I was like, man, I would have pulled them for that reason because I go, well, dude, you're getting lit up. So obviously, we'll just put in the backup. And maybe we can pull this out like we've seen teams do. Like what just happened with Wedgwood last game, where Blackwood gets lit up and they go, dude, put in the backup.

And sometimes the backup slams the door. We see that happen all the time. So I go put in the backup, maybe pull this win out of your ass. And even if you lose with your backup in, who gives a fuck? This was a schedule loss. You win game six in Montreal and then we're laughing. So it was just so crazy to leave him in and just unbelievable credit to Dobesh, dude. Because like, holy fuck, that was insane.

It's, that was insane. It's crazy, man. And I've got to say this. and I'm curious what you think. I am, I'm unfortunately declaring Buffalo dead. And you know why? Because of the goalie pole. Oh, oh, yeah.

Well, yeah, you said that forever ago. Yeah. No, no, no, not because of my general thesis, which is also true. Yeah. But because you go with UPL in game four, you get the win, you go with UPL in this game, and he gets turned into a Christmas tree.

and you have to yank him in this game. Now you're in the like, what do we even do in this game? You probably start Lion and maybe you pray to God that Lion can get a win on the road. But at this point, I just think the Canadians have both goalies figured out.

You know that in your locker room that both goalies are figured out. Tuck hasn't done shit. Tage is still like kind of wishy-washy. I don't know. I feel like if you're Montreal, you have their number in every way. dude correct the this sounds stupid but the fact that that lion gave up one two is insane

or not insane but just like a nightmare you know like he comes in gets three shots and like they score i never would have gone and listen i was not dialed enough on the buffalo goalie situation during the regular season any buffalo fan of the chat can maybe tell me who they felt more confident with because the splits are the splits are right there upl was slightly better numbers but everything really close so maybe they were happy to see you UPL and that, I just don't know. But from my outsider POV being dialed during playoffs,

I never would have put UPL back in the net ever, even after those Montreal losses. So the fact that we're even here is fucked. But you have the worst, you have not the worst, ST, the SE, you have the worst goalies in this series anyway. So like,

you're fucking, you're just up against it, you know, from the beginning. So it was always going to be tough. Yeah. It was always going to be tough. and listen, we don't need to have a post-mortem about Buffalo yet

because they're still in it, absolutely, and we've seen them win on the road. There's no, you know, we picked this series to go seven. I believe it can still go seven. I just think, I think it can. Yeah, I mean, and weirdly enough, after everything I just said, I think Lion, based on what he's done in the past, could come in and just, like, frustrate them for a game.

You know, maybe I'm wrong about that. But this Buffalo team has shown some fight. And you see for Montreal last night, you get another Caulfield goal. You get a Zuck goal. Then you get Demidov's first goal. By the way, did you see the stick tape change? Oh, no, I didn't. That's awesome.

Demidov, black tape. Every game in these playoffs. And then he switched to white and he gets a tuck. He had a great game. He was fucking awesome all night. He was all over the place. And that goal was sick. goal was sick and the one who scored the one that got stuffed in off his like curl and drag that

kind of leaked through and someone was that Anderson's maybe but yeah like that's basically his goal too in my mind you know so he was he he he was fucking man viving that was awesome yeah i mean it's like listen that's a game where you know you get coffield staying hot zook stays hot evans and demidov get there first it's just like everything's going for the habs in that game in buffalo you know that's just that's a nightmare game for buffalo It's a nightmare game. It is. You get three goals on four shots on Dobesh, who has been tough to solve other than that one game.

And then you give up a bunch of goals. Montreal's guys get going. You blow the lead. And you're Dow dead. It's just like it's a tough feeling. What sucks, dude, is you get that first period where you wish you were up more, obviously, when you're pumping in goals like that. But whatever, you have the lead.

And most importantly, you have scored. at an extreme rate against Dobesh, which has been very hard. And now you got the, like, usually you get, if you have a long series, usually you get one game where the goalie has a stinker, unless he's just diabolical, right? So Buffalo's thinking, amazing. Here's our Dobesh game. Maybe even Marty, maybe even St. Louis, dude, fucking, you know how Belichick, like, didn't call a timeout when the Seahawks had the ball on the one and the clock was running

and they malfunctioned and threw it, even though, you know, we can debate that call later. But you know what I'm saying? Maybe Marty legitimately got in the Sabres head by not pulling. Dobesch, you know, like they see three shots go in on four goals and they're going, here comes the yank. And then De Dobish is just still in there. And they're like, wait, what the fuck? So I legitimately think that's possible.

But man, you get that start. You get the, you get the Dobech stinker. So you think that second period as a Buffalo player, as a Buffalo fan is a fucking nightmare, dude, because you just have to keep going. And the fact that the habs come out and ram it down your throat, I think they scored three in the second. Is that right? three goals of their own in the second period.

And in that run, correct me if I'm wrong, Dan, but in that run was also the Tage Thompson breakaway where it was a pretty good move. I know he was looking five-hole. Dobesh didn't give it to him, so he held it. And then he just, I think he still had it if he elevated. It looked like that krill goal from the other night when he kind of from the goal line just gets it top-ched.

I was like, Tage, you have to score here. Like, this is, you're at home. You guys are getting rag-dalled in the second period after you got a Dobesh bomb. And then you're on a breakaway, dude. Like, fuck me. And it's just, those are the moments, dude. You know, it's fucking, it sucks.

But those are the moments. I'm not even saying he's been bad. It's just like, I have to have that goal. I have to have that goal. Yeah. Again, I don't want to, it's not time to dead the sabers and to have a post-mortem about them like we did about Minnesota. When the fuck? Yesterday.

Yesterday's episode. So we're not going to do that. Don't worry, Buffalo fans. You're still in the fight. Little fight. We're not going to do that. So instead, I want to stroke off this HAB's team. I think for the first time in playoffs, and listen, Buffalo could still win this series.

So, you know, keep that in mind. But I think for the first time in these playoffs on the East, the canes are looking at a team that spooks them. Okay. I think Montreal has proven time. Here we go again, dude. they won round one against a Tampa team that most people picked. Most people picked Tampa. And they won in six.

Seven, right? Seven, sorry. Yeah. To your point, kind of humiliated them. Oh my God, I think so strongly. I know Hab fans get mad at me for that,

but I agree. Kind of humiliated Tampa and made people start asking a lot of questions about Tampa. We presented those questions and we were like, it is undeniable that you need to have this conversation now. Now, here we are. A lot of people pick them in this series. We picked them in this series. But if they win in six here, in the ways that they've won, I think this is just like they keep doing this, man.

Like they don't lose two games in a row. Dobech always answers the bell. I think last night's game was such a motherfucker by Dobesh. I mean, again, credit to St. Louis, keeping him in the net, but him staying in the net and then saving 20 shots in the third period as Montreal just rams it down Buffalo's throat with that second period. Three goals, taking a five three lead and being like, you guys suck compared to us, getting another power play for good measure, getting Demidov on the board. That was a game that I think makes teams go. If I'm Carolina, I'm looking at Montreal and going, fuck, they're their field. on themselves right now. They're vibing.

And I think that's kind of spooky. It is. It is 100%. And I think every Habs fan that said, dude, trust me, watch out, watch from we get cooking is proven completely right. And I think it will be, and again, I don't want to do too much of this yet because the series is not over. I stand by that. But the, it is funny that like the canes are coming in undefeated to the point now that it's

like, if they lose any games, it's going to be like, Like the Keynes literally have to win the first two games at home, no matter who they play. Otherwise, it's going to be fucking panic mode. You know, I can't even get into that. But yes, the Habs team looks fucking awesome. I want to say this about Buffalo. This, when I was legitimately pissed at them in the second period because this has been a really fun ride. I said even from the very beginning playing against the team I liked the most, the Boston Bruins.

I was like, whatever, dude. I hope the Bruins win because they're my boys, but the savers are fucking awesome. and if they beat the Bruins, I hope they go on an epic run. I said that before the puck drop of game one. And this has been an awesome ride. I hope it's not over yet, but I hope Savers fans have enjoyed this. For the first time, all fucking playoffs, I was pissed at them in that second period of this game where I was like, dude, you scored three goals on four shots.

You have the lead in a pivotal game five at home. And you came out in the second period and you rolled over and you let the habs rub your belly and in front of your fans. And that cannot happen. But even though they still got rinsed, I give them a lot of credit because you want to talk about fight, you want to talk about having a little fight,

pouring 20 shots on the haves. And none of them were grade A, really, you know, but just pouring 20 shots on the halves in the fucking second or the third period. I really appreciated from that team from their fans. And where I'm going with this rant is the Sabres went three and O in Boston, right? I'm pretty sure. Three and O in Boston.

Boston. And then one in one in Montreal so far, which is a fucking impossible place to play. So really, dude, they're four and one on the road. And how many times have we heard dude say sometimes, even though you love the juice from the fans, sometimes the road playoff games are easier because you're like, whatever. I'm not, like I'm just, I'm alone. We're in the hotel with the boys, singular focus. Let's fucking go.

So you know what I mean? They've been better on the road than at home all playoffs. So your attitude right now. as the Sabres, you go, look what we did in the third. Doebus showed some cracks in the first. We just got to go win in Montreal, which we've already done, where we've been better. And then it's game seven. And game seven in home, like, whatever, dude. It's fucking game seven. Like, anything can happen. The Habs won a game seven in Tampa shooting nine times. So, like, you just, your attitude right now is just win a fucking road game, which we've done

at a 90% clip all playoffs. Yeah, it is, uh, Montreal's won two in Buffalo now, right? so Buffalo is only one and two at home. So what Buffalo is looking at is you've got some of your big dogs who need to play better. A thousand percent. You need to beat this team two games in a row which they have not allowed

to have happen in these playoffs yet. And you need to retilt the ice on your home ice where you have lost more than you have won. So, dude, has Montreal won two in a row? Has it, have they won two in a row either? Uh, not in this series. Or yes, in this series.

Or in this series they did. They won two and they, they, they, they, won two, three. And then Buffalo one and now they've won. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're about to potentially do it again. Yep. Um, so you've got a mountain to climb if you're Buffalo.

And again, the vibes aren't as horny as Montreal's vibes. Montreal is very horny right now. Yes, and that's very exciting. They are bricked up. They're totally bricked up. So a Buffalo, absolutely still in the fight. I did declare them dead. That, again, doesn't mean they're going to lose the next game.

I do just think it's, I think it's too much, and to me it's the goaly stuff. The goalie stuff is frightening. So Montreal, man, is just, they are answering every question. We kind of waxed poetic earlier in this week about how they're so ahead of schedule. and I think they keep doing that. That, dude, that was a J.S. That was about to be way too horny.

Yeah, that was, dude. What the fuck? I take that back. Don't you ever besmirch his name again like that. I was about to compare Dobash to Jaya Shiger and Tim Thomas. But, dude, I don't think that that performance is getting enough spec. I don't. Um,

I mean, how many shots do they actually have? The Sabres? I think 30-something? Yeah. I mean, that's a hell of, I mean, 36 shots, three goals is a very good game, but not like the greatest game ever. It's sick in the context of I gave up three goals on the first four shots. And I think that's what's important because Heleneas scored with about 10 minutes, 15 seconds.

Not about, exactly. So after 10 minutes of the game, he pitched a shutout. yeah with with and he did that with all of the people in the arena in that buffalo arena you know that they were like they were sieving him they were being like yank him yank him you got people like las online being like you've got to pull this guy obviously i know dobesh isn't checking fucking twitter after the area actually maybe he maybe maybe not name and names but we know some guys who do that but they i mean like there was a lot kind of stacked against him to make him be like uh, you know, maybe, maybe,

yank him. But he, he, he stood tall. That was great. No, it was awesome, dude. And he like I said, he absolutely battled. And bro, if you're the habs right now, you're going, and this is some fucking CP math over here. But this is a, this is a fact. If you're the habs, you're going, here's my spin zone of this series. We are through five games. We're up three to. Game one was a fucking joke that shouldn't have counted because we were coming off the Tampa game seven chaos and you know rolling into Buffalo and game four at home we would have won if tage's shot hadn't ricocheted off the fucking stanchion you know so i think the habs are going this was a sweep like they're the habs are reverse rod the bodding where he nothing is a

sweep to him the habs are in a three two tilt right now and they're going this should have been a sweep because we should have beat them in game one or she game one was a wash and we should to beat them in game four. So right now, their confidence is coming out their fucking ear holes because they're like, whatever, we're going back home to murder these guys and they don't belong in this series with us. So they feel incredible and none more so inflated than that 50-minute Doe-Besh performance. Correct. Correct. 100%. I mean, I just stand by this team is like there was a huge time. You know what? I got to stop. talking like they've already won.

Because it's disrespectful to Buffalo. They could come back. But it is, I think it's like for Buffalo, a lot of people need to dig deep, heavy deep, and start performing. And listen, like, that's what's up. That's what it takes. You need your big dogs. You need Tuck.

You need Thompson. You need Dahlene to be like, all right, man, like, we got to start getting it going. And I will say this. if game six comes around and Alex Tuck has like three points if you're Montreal you now go uh oh they're a little scary right yeah because you're like they're horny now

we might be in trouble it's a little scary because you go holy shit we just lost game six at home chance to clinch which I think they did in Tampa right like isn't exactly that exactly what happened in Tampa they were up three two coming home and lost yeah so if you lose that game

and Tuck and Tage get going and Alex Lion is great then you're fucking in another game seven where frankly, and all the credit to the habs in the world for getting by Tampa, but frankly, you had no business winning that game seven. Tampa was pummeling you and you won. And that's sick.

But you don't want to, you just don't want to be in that game again, dude. Game sevens are the scariest thing in the world. You don't want to be in that game again. So I hear you, it's not over. And I got a shout out, Dan.

And I'm not, I got a shout out my, my 10th brother-in-law seven times removed in law, Hugh. Hugh sent us a lot of stuff that I refuse, Hugh, I'm talking to you right now, I refuse to talk about this stuff that you just sent me because the series is not over. And this is some negative talk, Hugh. I gotta be honest, dude, I don't like this white flag wake, wait, but dude, that is your M.O. Bro. You are the biggest like, you're right. You're right. Hugh, we are related, dad. We are,

you know, I was going to say like that. I've never seen anything more point. pointing towards the fact that you and Hugh are cousins, that you are both defeatists, because that's how you get through it. Because he's already talking about what a great ride it's been. But Hugh, listen to me loud and clear. Dan is correct. If the stars can get going for one game, then we're in game seven. And you know what, Dan?

I will already even say this. You said this about the wild yesterday, or whenever the fuck that came out. You said this for what should have been a fuck yeah season from the wild went sour just because of how rinsed you got by the aves. I am saying, even in six, if Buffalo goes to Montreal and loses, they have still had a fuck-yes season. I don't want to hear any Sabers fans going, oh, my God, what a joke. 100% agree.

And I do, I think that's good to say, because when you get past Boston, who was a wildcar team, you're like, yeah, we should have got that. And you did it in a great way. Now you go up against Montreal, I think early as the one seed. You know, this is an upset. Right? If they lose to Montreal, this is an upset. But I think there's a reality that Montreal has shown their way better than people gave them credit for. And I think people forgot with the seating how insanely close Buffalo, Tampa and Montreal were at the end there.

They were all kind of won seeds as far as I'm concerned. Dude, they had the same amount of points with like two games left. Yes. And to me, it's like the only questions really about for me, about this Montreal team was how will Dobesh perform in the playoffs and how will this defense perform because they had kind of a lackluster defensive performance last year when they made it up against Washington. Lane Hudson has proven he's a superstar. Matheson has been incredible. By the way, we didn't talk about that Matheson play when Benson got popped and went down. I think it was game three, maybe four. Matheson jumped on top of Benson and like covered

and cradle his head to protect him during the scrum. That was one of the most cool guy moments of all time. Absolute glue. That was a total, total glue guy move. Like, presence of mind in a playoff game, you want to kill your opponent and your opponent is on the ground, potentially about to get killed and you go, let me just save this guy real quick. That's a glue guy move.

That is incredible. He's been great. Dobson back in the lineup has been great. This team has just, again, they've answered every single question. So if you lose to this Montreal team in six, if you lose to them in seven, no matter what, unbelievable season and so much to be psyched about and to build on. So Buffalo is laughing right now. Obviously they want to win, but they're laughing no matter what, which is great. Tough bad, tough hill, but you're not out of it. I can't wait. Can't wait to watch the game six.

Cannot wait. I, before we move on to the next series, I want to do a little, a little in between not ice. Okay. I flew yesterday. Yes. And more or true Netters fans long time listeners will remember my baby on a plane rant. Oh yeah, they didn't like that. Some people were mad at you about that.

Some didn't. And the ones who didn't need to understand that we're just having a family vent session here. Yeah. Come on. I get on the plane yesterday and I sit down, boarding group one, of course. How are you? And this lovely lady walks up, probably my age, maybe a bit younger, and she's got a maybe six-month-old baby strapped to her chest. Yep. And she goes, hey, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,

and then you're a row. And I was like, great. And as she's walking by, she goes, we got one more is coming to. I promise, promise we're going to be great. And I looked at her and I smiled and I went, you're already perfect. You're already perfect because what you've done is acknowledge it and you're trying to be nice. You're trying to be amazing.

And you are amazing. you're fantastic the husband shows up and he's like hey what's going on and he's putting his bags up and he's got a diaper bag he's got all this he's bringing down snacks and bottles and this and that

and he keeps being like I'm sorry I'm sorry and I was like I tapped him on the shoulder I was like buddy you're all good it's like no no worries at all he gets everything up he sits down we're sitting in there

this kid is cute as a button man like I mean this kid is a he's an he's an advertising baby we got to get him in commercials I know a guy. I know an agent. We'll get him set up. But they sit down there,

they're, you know, they're working everything around and doing all this. And immediately, the plane hasn't even boarded. The guy looks at me and he goes, when the flight attendants come by with like the stack boxes

and get whatever you want, get a drink, it's on us. And I was like, and I was like, big mistake, pal. I go, 55 burgers, 55 fries,

55 drinks. I go, I turn to him and I go, buddy, not necessary at all. You guys are the best. He's the best. We're in this together. Don't sweat it. And I, I point to the kid and I go, nothing. That's my guy right there.

I go, nothing about this situation is going to bother me or stress me out. Don't, do not sweat it. And the way both of their shoulders just like dropped and they're like, oh, wow. Like, you know, they came in so nervous. They then told me it was his first flight. They probably recognized you, Dan. They probably were like, this guy was the internet guy that tried to throw a baby off the plane. Correct.

They knew me. If you were flying with an infant, you get an email from United that goes, if you're sitting next to this guy, you better apologize. Just my eye, Dan's on this plate. But they, like, they clearly, they told me it was his first flight. Their first flight is a family. And we were talking, I was like, that's amazing. What are you guys doing?

Blah, blah, blah. But they clearly came into this flight knowing that they were flying the first time with their six-month-old, and they were so nervous. They were like, oh my God, I hope we don't bother anybody. They were so prepared. They had like a little syringe of what I assume is medicine for like maybe the ears, because I've heard that's a thing. Like the ear popping can be tough for newborns.

But they were so prepared. And my guy, did he cry a couple times? Sure. But he was fine. He was great. And I just, I wish I had gotten their names because I would love to, I would love to buy a billboard. I'd like to buy them a snack box. Yes.

And also, they both got a whiskey on the flight, which I loved about them. I was like, hell yeah, both of you. And I would like to put up a billboard and show the nation, show the world. These two people and this baby are incredible. This is America's family. They were just so wonderful and delightful. And I am, I'm sorry for them that they felt so stressed out and worried because I've got a message for them. you've got nothing to worry about.

All three of you are perfect. What would you have done if they ordered the whiskeys and then started making the baby have it? You sat right in a system as they're just pouring the whiskey down the baby's throat. Would you have called the call button? Okay. If they were, if they filled that syringe with the Jack Daniels and busted it down that kid's throat, yes, I would have hit the call button. I know what I'd have been like, whoa. We got an issue.

Open the back shoot right now. Now, however, if they had gone full 1920s, family and poured that whiskey in a cup and stuck their finger in it and rubbed it on the kid's gums to help with his teething. I would have gone like this. That's old school parenting right there. Yeah, that's how, that's how great generations were born. I would have looked at the kid and I would have given him a fist pump and out of gone, you and me both, brother. Dude, 100%. Um, that is fucking awesome. It was awesome. It was awesome. It was a great full circle moment for me. Uh, yes, it was. Uh, this killed me in the chat, Dan.

JD goes, why does CP have to be in Ecuador for the live to work? But everyone's saying, don't jinks it, though. Don't jinks it. Don't jinks it. But also it's like, I'm sorry, dude. We might have to be Netters International and now the live is perfect. And Jose, I'm in Quito. So if you have any wrecks, fucking fire him in there, buddy. That would be awesome. I'm going to go horseback riding later, I think. That'd be sick. Oh, God, that will be sick. I'm trying to get to a gallop, Dan. Do you want to, you've never galloped? you've galloped

you have maybe trotted buddy are you out of your mind I used to go to Andrew Lone's house every day after school and we would ride Shadow around those back I was on a full on fucking prance pal Shat dope that's fucking horseshit

Shadow would kick you the fuck off so fast Nah nah Shadow was my guy We used to tear through those woods That's insane Uh Vegas Anaheim Shall we get into it

Yeah only if you promise We can talk about Mitch Marner For 30 straight minutes Yeah I want to talk about Marner for 30 straight minutes, and I want to talk about torch for 30 straight minutes. Which would you like to start with? Mitch Marner.

Okay. Let's start and talk about Mitch Marner. Also, can you hear the bustling New York City streets behind me? No, not really. I don't think so. The mics are good, dude. Because I got fucking blowing the grass. I got horses.

Actually, there was a guy band sawing sheet metal out here. And Sandra had to go out and be like, dude, you got to give me one hour. You know what I really love is every now and then we can see Sandra's reflection in the door behind you and every down and then we can see Alice's head bobbing behind this lamp right here. So we've got, this is a star-studded episode. It's fantastic.

Okay, Mitch, Mitch Marner. Mitchell, is his name Mitchell? Yeah. So he could be just a Mitch. I don't know what his legal name is. I'll find it while you watch. It's poetic. Look that up.

Mitchell Marner. Having, what is it, 18 points in the playoffs, three more than anybody else. And after I, early in playoffs. His name's Mitchell Daniel Marner. He's named after me. Are you shitting me?

That's unbelievable. MDM. That's pretty sick, actually. Yeah, that is sick. He's a doctor. He's a doctor. Dr. Marner. M.D. Marnard.

How have we not called him doc? Oh my God. What are we doing here? We've got a new nickname. This is unreal. Doc Marner? This is huge news. I'm about to blast this out.

This is fantastic. Dude, how is Doc Marner? Holy shit, dude, hold on. I got to make sure this isn't up on anywhere else because if we have just invented Doc Marner... If the chat breaks this news to me, I'm going to die. Hold on. I'm on hockey reference. Nope, dude.

It says Marns, Bruno Marns, Mitchie, Magic Mitch, Mouse, Mickey Mouse, the magician are his known, legally documented known nicknames, and now he's fucking Doc Marner. You're welcome, Mitch. And Dan, get on the T-shirt machine right fucking now. Right now, dude. This is so amazing that we are creating this.

And Ev, Zabs. Everyone, a clip needs to be made of this. The second this episode is over because we've got to get ahead of the story. And this is unbelievable. Start trademarking shit, dude. Zach, get a trademarked. Right now. Yep, right now.

We need this fucking handled immediately. This is insane. We might have to delete. We might have to crash this chat. We don't have to crash this live, We might have to intentionally crash. Truly. I'm struggling to get this on Twitter right now.

Doc Barta, dude. It was, and wow, holy comment that says, I think it's an I or an L 31. It says, Dan, the chat says that goal was surgical because of course it was. I'm the fucking doctor. Chat, that's some Friday vibes. That's, we're all buzzing on a Friday. This is huge. Holy shit.

So, Dan, that play, you know, we always talk about you. I'm a broken record with this. Starting a road game, starting a road game with a goal, getting the crowd out of it is so, so huge. And that play, first of all,

the pass from Shea is ridiculous. Like, I can't even believe he can fucking hits him there. And then Marner gets in, and it's Lacombe, right? Lecombe's all over him. And then Marner's fucking starred.

Hits the brakes. He looked like Luis Mendoza Dan. Use the brakes, baby. He was on an all-time breakway, and he hits the brakes. He did hit the brakes. He falls top and then goes between the legs.

And I was like, you did. I literally was like, what is happening? I'm trying to watch it in fucking Ecuador. I got it on my phone. I don't know what's going on. I thought it was a glitch. And I was like, there's no way that that just happened. I think something looked wrong, but I didn't see what I think I saw.

And then they showed me the replay. And he went full doc, full surgical, full Luis Mendoza, one nothing game over, series over. I am way too excited. Marty just texted us about this. I'm way too excited about what we have just discovered. Like Doc Marner is the funniest nickname of all time. And the fact that it works is like it's M.D. Marner,

D. Marner, dude, Marner, Doc Marner. This is, hey, the random stuff that tickles you is fantastic. And he is, we've got the,

someone just on X just said, the doctor put on a playoff clinic. It's like, it's all perfect. It's all there, dude. It's all there for the taking. MD,

he's an M. has been his whole fucking life. I don't know how I didn't see it. It's, it's, it's remarkable how well this guy is playing.

And it is so good to see him so happy. And I, that's, I'm not taking shots at Toronto, uh, at least not shots. You know,

syringe shots like a doctor would give. I'm taking shots at, yes, I think this guy is having fun in the playoffs for the first time in his career. And I think obviously, it helps that they're winning. But when they lose, he doesn't have media being like this. And it's your fault, right? When he was quote unquote cold earlier in the playoffs, people weren't up his ass. So it allowed him to start buzzing. He's now the best player in playoffs. He's pulling out

highlight real goals. Like that is probably the sexiest Vegas Golden Knights goal of their history. That is the sexiest goal of these playoffs. Like this is unbelievable to see. Shout out Bouch. We love Buccagras. He's unbelievable. If you're not following Boucci yet, go make sure you do it. He's the best. He's on the broadcast. He crushes it. He tweeted an awesome video of his assist on Howden's goal. And Booch was like, the way this kid is in like flow state, the way he sees the ice one step ahead. He's like, Neil in the Matrix. He's seeing the numbers. When you watch his zone entry and the way he appeals back and opens up his hips and delays, pulls the puck back. to protect it, wait for that pass lane to open up, and then slides a perfect, feathered pass

that Howden can just one T in the back of the net. It's, he is genuinely, he's flying. It's that scene from F1, where it's like, everything is going right. You're hitting all the turns right. You're hitting the straight. You're using DRS and you are flying. Mitch Marner is currently flying. It's unbelievable. Dude, he used, it was like he was moving the, you know, how coy, they talk about quarterbacks moving safeties and linebacks with their eyes. that goal was actually someone on the call had an amazing line it was like that's hockey baby or something like that but it was like literally he he it was a two on two that like was developing into a three on two short handed which is insane and we can talk about the duck's power play in a second but he

literally like floated and then moved ducks defenders where he wanted them to go and it was as if they is as if he put an invisibility cloak on howden but with his eyes because he was like I'm not possibly passing there so then they all the ducks defenders just started like looking everywhere else of who else they should cover since Howden was invisible. And then he went, pulled the cloak off him, hit him backdoor, Howden Tuck, which is a dagger goal and a goal, Dan, that I will say made zero sense because New Hook didn't score earlier. So I don't know how Howden thinks he can fucking score if New Hook hasn't scored. So that's bullshit.

It did feel like that was a miscommunication. I was pretty upset about that. What are you doing? I was like, dude, buddy, we have a thing happening. There's a clear thing. I was like, new hook didn't score howd and you can't be scoring here, but that just means that new hook's going to get two tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, correct. Fuck game six is over. Hey, hey, Chris, this is a message to all our listeners. If you do not absolutely shithammer a new hook

anytime goal score tomorrow night, you are out of your mind. You have lost your mind. You have lost your damn mind. Yeah, correct. That is so funny. Yeah, there is no doubt about it. Mitch Marner and dude, you just touched on this when he was cold. I was part of the problem there going, Mitch Marner is not quite giving you what you want if you're Vegas. And all the Vegas fans were saying, dude, he has seven points in seven games or whatever it was. It's like six points in six games. Like, what the fuck do you want from him? And I was like, dude, I want him to score. And I know points are points, obviously. But in Marner is a pass first guy. I'm not even saying that that's wrong. That's like how he, that's the way he wants to play. But I just think if you look back at

Toronto runs, which is pretty consistently close to point per game. It's almost always one goal, 11 assists in 12 games, leaves loose. One goal, six assists in seven games, leaves loose. And in earlier runs, he was scoring more. And he's obviously capable of scoring. And I know I'm being greedy, but you are a superstar. Vegas went out and said, Mitch Marner is available. We are stopping at nothing to get him because he is a superstar. And they bring him in to score goals in the playoffs. And obviously the points are awesome but when you are getting this Mitch Marner then you are dangerous.

When you were getting one goal, a million assists Mitch Marner, you are beatable in my opinion. So this Mitch Marner did like since those after five games or whatever he kind of broke through, he has been fucking unbelievable, unbelievable, everything you could have ever wanted in more if you're Vegas.

Without question, man. And we kept talking about him and Eichel and being like one of you guys has to score. Seven goals, 11 assists. Like he is scoring. And I, I know we had Hattie, but it doesn't matter. Like, you're seeing the puck going, that's incredible.

This is, God, does this feel good? And this is why we always stroke off Vegas. I will never understand the anti, and are we actually, Chris, you're monitoring the chat really well. Chat, do us a favor. Tell me this. Any one of you that's in the chat that is a fan of a team on the East Coast, do we see more of the Vegas hate because we're on the West Coast? and it's a lot of kings, ducks, oilers, fans that hate Vegas?

Or is this like a national thing? Because there is... Everyone hates Vegas, dude. We made the keep hate in shirts because like it feels like everyone hates Vegas and I genuinely don't get it. We've talked so many times about the... If you had problems with the LTIR stuff,

I just, I don't think it's... I don't think it's legitimate complaint because every good team was doing it. They were following the rules. Like, it is what it is. I don't get the Vegas hate and I love... as you said, how every time a significant player becomes available, Vegas goes out and gets them

because they want to win. How do you not love that? You wish your team did that. Yes. That's why they hate them, dude. It's like, I've got, I think Vegas is awesome. I think they're good for the league. I think that they are, I think they're so fun to watch. And yeah, if you are a Vegas fan and if you're this organization, you are looking at Mitch Marna right now and you are just laughing, sitting back, drinking your wine so thrilled with how well this played out. Dude, there's a few people, first of all, two for roughing said earlier, said something that was great. Let me see if I can find it. He said Doc Marner with a tetanus shot. That's great. God, that's good. But he goes, he goes, he also said anyone counting his Vegas team out is in for a rude awakening, which I agree with.

Obviously, the abs are going to be heavily favored, but I agree with that. We were talking about that with Marty earlier. And then we've got a few things here. Some people say they don't hate Vegas. John, no, Jonah Wright says, I don't like Vegas because my girlfriend is a Vegas fan, which is fucking hilarious. Like, dude. That should be mutual love, Jonah. Fuck. Yeah.

Get in there. Then Jennifer says it's a national thing. And I think it is, my take is it's a national thing because they had no hardship again. Like they just, they literally started the league, made the cup and have always been good. It's not their fault. But I just think people are like, fuck that. And then we're getting a bunch of Carter Hart didn't help their cause, which is true.

Like I think a lot of people are just. just like mad about that and we'll never recover from that. Absolutely. And that's final. Yeah, there are tons of people who have made their mind up about that. But I would tell everyone that's saying that right now, the Vegas hate was fully on display before this season. Like everyone hated Vegas before the season. So I don't, I don't think that helped them moving forward. But I'm telling you, all this Vegas hate with, yeah, someone, Nightroom just said they were hated way before that. And I totally agree.

Correct. This is not new. Oh, dude. Vegas was persona non grata. They were the number one hated team in the NHL. before Carter Hart, and then for some people that Carter Hart dumped a bucket of gasoline on the Vig. Yeah, exactly. For sure. For sure. But I mean, I think what's going on there, and you know what, CP, obviously when you win a second round and you make it to the Western Conference final, there is momentum there, but would you agree that that win, the way Martyr's playing, the way Hart is playing, for a lot of reasons, those included, this is the best, we've ever felt about Vegas.

Like now, going into this, I feel like before this game, I was kind of sitting here being like, man, Colorado is going to steam roll whoever they play. Now I'm like, this Vegas team looks really good. They look as good as they did when they won the cup. And you're without Petro still, but at the same time, like, shit, man, they look good.

So this could be a really good series here. To win this game without McNabb, without Stone, the way they want it, dominant fashion is insane. I stand by, again, again, what is going on with Mark Stone? So if he is just needed some time and wow, glad you got this done, did they not start the conference finals till both are ready? Or would they start this early? I guess I don't know the answer to that.

I bet if, actually, let me check. I think they wait. I think they wait because they try to do that every other night thing. I would imagine. I would imagine they're going to wait because, yeah, so we've got Saturday scheduled game, Sabres, Canadiens, and Monday, we have a scheduled Canadian Sabres if game is needed. So Wednesday is going to be Golden Knights Avalanche scheduled. So they will wait until there is a winner. So you've got until Wednesday. That's a good little break. So yeah. Yeah, the, um, Zach just said they wait. So the, uh, that's huge for the stone of it. Right. Like you, you're praying Buffalo gets that win. Forces game seven. Just give me as much time as humanly possible to get Mark Stone back. Yeah. But if he is back, then yes, I'm with you.

This was going to be a hard series for the abs who have been rolling and haven't faced a lot of hardship, right? Like, obviously that's the Minnesota thing was tighter than it looks. But same deal with the Keynes, right? Like, they are also rolling. Both of those teams are going to be either a true juggernaut or they're going to be in one here. But I do think Vegas needs Mark Stone. I think if he's like actually hurt him something fucked up. happen. I think the abs will still kill them, even with how good Marner and Igole, who also has

15 fucking points and Carter Hardness has been playing. They need Mark Stone. Yeah, I agree. All right, let's talk about torts. Not sure if you saw, but courts, um, he declined to speak with the media after advancing to the Western Conference final. And they also didn't open the dressing room after the game. Um, they brought one player into a side room to speak along with two. spoke at the podium, including Mitch Marner. And Big J. Journows are losing their minds about this.

And another thing is that Torts did not do the handshake. Who was it last year that didn't go through the handshake? Paul Maurice. Paul was it, Maurice. Or maybe it was I think it was him, though.

I think it was Pomo, yeah. And I think it was him going, this is about the players, it's not about us. We had a long talk about this last year and our stance last year was discussing the whole thing but I was like who gives a shit as far as are you going to get mad about it I think we talk a lot about on this show and in this life I think people need to be outraged less in general just yeah everyone everyone just calm down I mean it's like there's so many other things in life that you can put

your attention and care into getting fired up about this makes no sense to me I believe I said last year and I stand by this. As a player, I want the opposing coach in there because sometimes I think it's really lovely to get some nice words. I mentioned Maurice intentionally, or particularly when they beat Boston

in 24, I believe. Maurice went up to sway and was like, I've seen some pretty good performances in the playoffs and that was right there amongst the top. That feels amazing for Sway to hear. To hear it. Stanley Cup winning coach say that to you. You're like, oh, wow, thank you.

Like, that's awesome. So as a player, I would be like, I want the coach in there. Like, it's nice to hear something nice sometime. Yeah. I think it's a, you know, if that's how Torz, I believe Torz never does the handshake line. He's like, that's for the players, man. Oh, okay.

Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, he's never done it. That's different. Either he's never done it or many times in the past, he has not done it. So I'm like, dude, this is his thing. He's done it before.

It's not a big deal at all. all. And I'm going to be honest, man. I think trying to turn that into a story yet again, here we go. I think it's just a waste of time. But I'm going to go a step further and say, closing the locker room door and not talking to media, I fucking love it, dude. I love it. Dude, so a lot of people, and I wonder if Marty's still on, he can text us. But a lot of people are saying that Marner and some people were saying they had to go. Like, they were literally in a rush for a plane thing. And I will say, I don't know if that's true, but I will say you, people would be shocked

how strict the flight shit is. Like remember after Milan, even, Dan, when they were like, we have to leave at 1 a.m. And I was like, what do you mean? Like, push it or tell them to wait. And they were like, we can't. Like, we have to go. And, you know, so it's like there are actually weird restrictions. So maybe, and if people were paying more attention to me, they can continue to chime in in the chat.

But maybe legitimately it was like, hey, dude, the fucking plane is taking off. We have time for two people. Go talk. See you later. We got to go. That might be completely made up or not. Hold on. Shout out Marty.

He just texted this. He says he thinks it was a John Wayne curfewish. Yeah. So like there you go. Like. Legitimately, it's like we don't have time. It's not trying to be dicks. They're like, we actually have to get on this plane.

We have to go or we have to sleep here. Yeah. And like, that, that's, that is fine. And it's like, to me, man, it's a, uh, let's get into the closing the locker door thing. Wait, Dan, this is so good in the chat. I forgot about this. Thug Nug 87 says, I wanted him to see, I wanted to see him shake Cutter's hand. Other than that, I didn't care.

And I was like, oh, that is funny. That would have been. You bitch, toys. You bitch. Yeah. You have to go shake Cutter's hand. Maybe he texted him after. We actually have a lot of people.

that torts hits them up on the side being so nice. So I actually bet I wouldn't be surprised at all if he reached out to Qatar on the side. Yeah, dude, it's, again, it's just not a story. The one thing that I, or not the one thing, I've got a lot to say. The one thing that keeps coming up is people are going, towards shutting the locker room door,

Torts not speaking to media, it's disrespectful to media because they have a job to do and this and that and the other. what I hate about that is, dude, grow up. How many times... Write an article, write your article. You're fine. I mean, like someone, I mentioned on X, I was like, journals are the worst, dude.

Like, all they do is, not all they do. There are some great journalists. But for the most part, these people come in there. They ask stupid questions. And we talked about it with Rob Gucci and Schmaltzy on Homeby 3. There are people who deserve to be pee-p-wacked in the, the journal world. When you ask a dumb question, you should get suspended from the locker and for a couple of games. And there are people in our, you know, who try to be in the podcasting

space who used to be journals and they suck as well. And they ask dumb questions and have asked dumb questions. There are people who are journals who still suck. And I'm like, dude, if you're a good journalist, you aren't one of these assholes who players have hated in the past or still hate. How many times have we seen torts players and people being like, I don't want to answer your question. You suck. All you do is so division in our locker rooms. You spin dumb stories. You're a nerd who no one likes. That happens often. And those people deserve it if they've done bad shit to players and coaches. And my thing is, you've got a job to do? Do your job. Right, right, right, right, right about how or why torts doesn't go through the handshake line, right about how you don't think it's a big deal. And two players did come

and speak. One player was pulled into a side room. Go get that story. It's like, to me, it's, it is such a boo-hoo crybaby take to try to villainize torts and the team because they did this when A, there's the airport issue. B, it's like a, who cares man? It's one game. Like, come up with your own story. Write about the game. That's what people want to read about. Yeah, is it nice to get a player quote? Sure. But there were player quotes at the podium. And there are other games and quotes that you can draw from. Do your job. Do your job, dude. It's not hard. It's not hard. I want to talk about the ducks a little bit real quick, Dan, because I think the exact thing that we just said about the sabers, if they lose, applies to the ducks here.

Fuck yeah, season, boys. Fuck yeah. Vegas was the one seed. They have a ton of experience. You guys beat the Oilers. You guys beat the defending two back-to-back Western Conference finals, Oilers, and then you took Vegas to six. And I think if they, when they look back on this series, they'll post-mortem. I think they'll say the power play kind of killed them, right? Like through three games, I think the ducks were old for 15 or something, one for five tonight. And in the games, they were winning in the middle that the power play got cooking again. So that's probably the difference in, or maybe not the difference in the series, Vegas still could have won, but that's certainly how you went out. But other than that, man, incredible experience for these guys.

Players stepped up future fucking superstars. I think they go, it always a loss hurts, dude. A loss hurts and you got pumped at home and it sucks. But I think they, once they take their blows, they had a few pops last night together. They wake up today with their heads held high going hell of a fucking season and Pacific Division lookout. No question about it, CP. Perfectly said, I think this Ducks team is so happy. They are so thrilled with everything that's going on.

So let's do a little postmortem with the Ducks. I think a big thing here is Doasty. And for me, I think that there are some people, you just, you signed Doasty till 20, 30 at a $6.5 million contract. Perfect. He's 25 years old. This is his first lick at playoffs. I think he had some great games. I think he had some tough games.

Do not panic. None of, none of the Ducks fan base, I think should be worried about Dostal. I think he's a phenomenal goaltender. People also need to remember you're without Goudis. I think they desperately needed Gouda. in this series and on the blue line. So deep breaths, dostall's your guy. Do not worry about goal attending.

I like that. We've talked about, I don't think we had a big deep dive with Marty the other night, but I don't know that we did it on the pod. Next year, they have about 40.4 mil in cap space. But they've got some work to do. You've got Cutter Gautier and Leo Carlson.

Excuse me. Cutter Goethe, Leo Carlson, yeah, no, and that's it for big time forwards, that are RFAs that you need to give contracts to. Are we thinking half of that 40 mil is going there? Oh, yeah. Like, unless they want to take a smaller bridge, which they could, because maybe they're going, dude, look what we're building here, just to help us, like, get through this. I can't blow it all on you both right now. We want to bring some more guys in. Maybe. Because if I'm them, I kind of go, okay, what are they, Leo's 20, right? Like, what's Cutter 21 or something? You've got 22 and 21. Cutter is 22, Leo is 21.

So like if they offered me a number I was pretty happy with that was two to four years knowing that then I'm 26 or younger and getting my bag, I'm kind of like, okay, if it helps the team, maybe, maybe. Also, if they go give me seven by 10 right now, I go, okay. Yeah. So honestly, CP, I think both these, Cutter just scored 41 goals. Leo is, oh, Leo is obviously a, eight. I think he's a franchise player.

I think he is, they found their, they found their Kopitar, their Getslav, their Barkov in this team. You just had Lecombe signed a $9 million deal until 2034.

You've got Terry signed till 2030. You've got McAvish sign till 2013, both at 7 mil. You've got Granny till 2028 at 7 mil. You've got Criads

and Killer for another year at a great number. You got Vitrano at Sp. 4.5 until 2028. This team is very well constructed and very well built. If I'm the PVB, I am looking at these two guys, and my pitch is cane taves.

I would go, guys, we've got Lacombe, our horse on the... And Quenville. You go, we have Crenville did. You are literally there. Like, there you go. I go, we've got Lecombe, our horse signed at nine until 2034. And like that nine number is so unbelievable, dude. It's, it's, it's less than McAvoy. It's less than, uh, obviously less than Bouchard. It's, it's just like

such a good number. And you've got those boys at seven. And when you have Seneca, who has had an unbelievable season, third in Calder voting, he has got next year and the year after on his entry level. But that's another thing that you've got to remember. If I am PVB, I am looking at Leo and Cutter and I'm going, guys, here's the exact same deal, seven years for both of you, let's fucking run this thing till the wheels come off. Let's win a few cups and let's build the dynasty. And you're not even really asking anyone to take less. It's like you could make the argument, let's call it between eight and a half and ten. I think it's going to be more than eight and a half because yeah if you've got lecombe making nine i think it probably has to start at nine

for both of them but let's even say it's nine i think i think pvb has an argument to look at them and go sign the same thing as jackson did seven by nine let's get you all fucking ripped and on the books together i i would pitch the dynasty to them i would pitch dostall locked up all these other guys locked up and and specifically jackson lecombe and i would say get on the books for seven years both the same exact contract because if they do that, even if they go seven by 10, in two years, Beckett Seneca is going to do the same thing. Yep. Don't you think?

You're living in Southern California. You set the precedent. You set the precedent. You're living in the O.C. You just made the playoffs way earlier than people thought. You've got so many unbelievable guys locked up for so long. Like it is, it's unbelievable. And if you can get those two signed at that, at that 10, not, let's.

again, let's call it 10. And then you've still got 20 mil. You've got the work to be done of John Carlson, Truba, and Goudis are all gone. They make 8, 8, and 4. All of them will be taking less than what they currently make. So it's like that 8, 8, and 4 is,

that's the other 20. It's going to be less. So like, you've got work to do. There's a Darren Radish that we talked about. That's a right shot D that you could pair with Jackson Lecombe for the next four or five years. Like, you could bring Carlson,

Carlson was like, John Carlson was, I think, like, the seventh or something leading defensive point score in the league at 36 years old. Like, you could get him back and play him with the comb for two more years. Like, there's just such good makeup to this team. And if I were Pat for Beak, I would do everything to get Leo and Cutter bought into the dynasty future, maybe taking less. Again, I don't even think it's less, but I would give them the exact same contract and be like this, we are fucking building something here.

Dude, and not to mention, and we talked about this, but Zach just texted us, but not to mention if you save a few bucks on those guys, there's a few big chips out there in the league right now. A couple huge brand name centers that could become available for the right package. And the ducks are a team with enough chips and enough money to make a bit

on that, especially if you get these boys signed, your superstars that you need signed on reasonable deals. If you currill them, and obviously they're not even close to that yet, but if you currill them, quote unquote, then it becomes really hard to maneuver. But if you get them on good deals, then I go, and fellas, now maybe I can bring in a fucking whale.

So we'll see. Do you want to have that conversation right now? Do you want to have the whale conversation? No, because I think it's too complicated right now. But, but I mean, I guess on a, on a micros sense, we can say they are one of the teams. When we were doing our brain trusts, our war room brain trust, they're one of the few teams. they're one of the few teams that were like they could make a move. It's a good, it's a good

opportunity in terms of like living situation, team build situation, all that shit. I mean, it's Matthews and McDaviders who we're talking about and it's like it's a great landing spot for someone and a team where the knock would have been yeah, but I really want to win right now.

They're a little far out and right now I go, are they? Do they feel far out right now? Exactly. I mean, listen, man, I think if you look at it And I need people to understand. If you don't think Orange County is a very exciting opportunity for hockey players, you're out of your mind. That is a place that tons of people would love to live and love to move to. PVB is an incredible GM.

Quinville's an incredible coach. They have an amazing facility. They have a great rank in Honda. It's all those boxes that you want to check as a player. Zach just said Ducks to me seem like the best free agency trade destination open right now and I completely

they are top three without question so if you are potentially one of these big fish that's like you know what I do want to trade you look at the makeup of this Ducks team and you are like yeah send me there I mean right no question

dude you know what I'll add by the way and A Marty if you're still on dude door score of feet Fiev with two more last night has made your your dream even like you what a chip. I it's almost a one for one now the way this dude is playing and and you've never been more right. Like I've never done.

I've never been more on Marty's side in my whole life than watching that dude get that tuck the fourth one. And then he obviously just scores the goal scores goal fifth. But holy shit buddy. I like it now I can see it all clearly now Marty. It makes perfect sense. It's like here you go. Give it back.

The team that goes out, the team that goes out and gets whoever they want, if there's potentially these two huge fish available, RFA Scorafiev is a wonderful piece that you could try to deal if you were Vegas. And that is. Good God, dude. Yeah. And you're right, CP. It's like almost one for one.

It's incredible. I'm like, what are you doing with this guy? Dan, we got a couple people, Leo Carlson Glazer, Richie works saying, what does a trade package look like for one of those guys? Can we discuss Austin Matthews how you think it'll shake out? So if you want, Dan, this is your platform. These guys, these guys want it. As far as the ducks are concerned?

Yeah, yeah, let's do ducks for Leo's sake, for Leo Carlson-Glazer's sake. Like, what are you trading if you're the ducks? All right. If we're talking ducks, you got to remember duckies don't have a first-round pick this year, but they've got three second-round picks in 2027. And the other interesting thing about the duckies

is that they're not a low first-round pick anymore. more. So like, you know, that, but, but it's still a first round pick. But if the ducks wanted to make a move for an Austin Matthews, I mean, you don't really want to give up a guy like this, but at the same time, it's like, how do you not look at Mason McTavish's $7 million as an unbelievable trade pick? He's 23 years old. That's a center. He's a tough, gritty guy. Also left shot. You could package a Mason McTavish with a couple of first round picks, maybe one of those. second round picks and maybe throw in a Zelweger, who is an RFA defenseman. And bang, you've got your, you've got your, or a Minchikov. I was going to say, I think to me it costs a Minchikov,

which hurts, but I think you go, okay. Yeah. Like we have Jackson Lecombe. You've got Zellweger and Mitchikov as RFA defensemen, who are a team controlled. You could do a McTavish, one of those two and two first round picks, maybe one first round pick and a second round pick, and that deal gets done. And I, you know, you're taking on the 13 mil that is Austin's deal, but you also then don't have the seven mill of Mason and you don't have to resign one of those RFA defensemen.

Now all of a sudden you're looking at something interesting there. And you have, you have 110 combined goals between Matthews and Cutter. Congratulations. There's half your team sheet for the fucking year. And I'm going to be honest, man. if, and Maple Leafs fans, like if we were to post that trade proposal, I'm certain that there are some Maple Leafs fans who would be like this absolutely out of your mind. That's not enough. And to that, I would say, you have to look at it as a situation of if Austin Matthews is getting traded. It's because Austin Matthews wants to get traded. Correct. That's what everyone doesn't realize with these guys. Correct. They're, the other option is walk for free. They have you fucked. So figure it out, get some value back. You're never going to say it's good value ever because you're trading Austin Matthews, which I get. But you just, you just. You just, have to get, you have to get pieces back that are legitimately good to build around. Do, do your job. Do that. Correct. Absolutely correct. So, yeah, I mean, the trade option is there.

But it's, this is us just kind of stroking off the ducks for a second here. I think that they are in just such a good position, man. I mean, it's like, it is exciting times for him. Filled. Thrill. The only thing I had on this game, Dan, and I forgot to say earlier, is I love so much how Mitch Marner, how Doc Marner, isn't afraid of a below the dots clapper. Like, he will come down and go, fuck you. Just hammer a clapper with accuracy, dude. Like he hits that thing. We saw him score on one against Utah.

We saw him go off the pipe last night, little pipe dreams. But dude, Mitch, Doc Marner coming down, taking out the scalpel and going, bang, clapper under the dots, how you've been. It's just a sight to behold. it every time. It's truly beautiful, man. It's like, it's truly remarkable. Um, I do want to just, I, I, I, I hate to say this. I want to go back. I mean, listen, it's Friday. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm chilling. It's a beautiful day here. I know you're in Ecuador and you've got shit to do, but I was just thinking of myself, I just posted as we're, we're going on and on about the ducks here.

I thought to myself, is there any team with a brighter future than the ducks in the west? let's have a discussion Sharks v. Ducks Oh, yeah, yeah, good one. Because if I'm the Sharks, you've got your amazing v. Offens on offense, like Toff, like Uncle Taff, who's going to be on the show here soon,

you're going to be seeing more Toff this summer, which is exciting. But you've got Toth, you got Wenberg, you've got Barclay, like, you've got your great vets, and then you obviously have. Mac, you have Will, you have Mesa, and now you have this second overall pick. You've also got, I love Colin Graff. I thought that pickup was amazing. He's an awful thing this summer that they're figuring out. I think people forget that Eki is fucking 23 years old. They're exciting.

Their big thing is defense. They literally have no one on defense. And the ducies have, they've got three UFAs and two RFAs on D as well. So they're in a similar situation. but other than Orlov and Sam Dickinson who is 19 and Cagnoni actually who is 21 the sharks don't have like anyone signed on D

the question is do you like Mac Will Smith, Mesa and that second overall pick and I'm not discrediting Eki and I'm just talking about let's put an Ekey in there actually Mac

Smithy Misa Graff and Eki and their second overall pick or Leo, Cutter, Seneca with Granny

with Criads like it's a very interesting because I obviously have the high water work in San Jose like Mac is the best. Yep.

And I think so I think you could make the argument as far as like young talent I give sharks to the edge on offense. Yes. Uh,

Yeah, I think so. I think so. I'm going to include that second overall because that is either Gavin. That's either Gavin McKenna or Iversenberg. Yeah, or a massive trade. Or a massive trade. Yeah. Which keep eyes on that.

I'm given the ducks the absolute edge on deep. Like, not even close. Not even close. Yep. And I'm given the ducks the edge on goaltending. Because I think Ascroft is very good, but I don't think we've seen what Dostal has shown us from Ascarov yet. So, dude.

like Vegas this, Edmonton, that, the Pacific goes through Anaheim and San Jose in about a year and a half. As sick as sick as it David said earlier. Especially when the Oilers realize they have to blow it completely up

and trade Connor McDavid and Leon Dryside all this summer. This is what I was going to say, David said earlier that the sharks are 1.5 years behind the ducks and I agree, but I would shave off the 0.5 just because of back. I would say Mac is that good. Correct. And as sick as a, as sick as a all California Pacific Western Conference final would be for the next 10 years, the, you, you're forgetting that Vegas will just do whatever they have to do to ruin your life. Like, no matter what, they will go, oh, dude, Mac will probably be on Vegas in two years.

Like, they will just go, I don't care what you think. Just give me your players. And then all of a sudden, they will have them all. Like, Vegas will have Leo and Mac. and then we'll be laughing that the ducks and the sharks have never made playoffs. And now Vegas has won seven straight cups. And I'm like, oh, I can't believe we thought this was changing. Vegas is going to somehow figure out how to become the Dodgers of the NHM.

They're going to offer sheet. They're going to offer sheet Leo, dude. And then get them. Like, this is fucking, what are we talking about? Dude, if Vegas offersheets Leo and Macklin, that would be the funniest thing we've ever seen. Like, Jesus Christ. Unbelievable. It's never ending, dude.

It's relentless. Yeah. How this is going to be an unbelievable ricochet shot. But if you're a Blackhawks fan and you look at the state of the ducks and sharks, you must be so depressed. Yeah, but I think you, it's not as bad as it was two years ago. You know, like two years ago, I was like, oh, yeah, it's way better. This is not good. And listen, I'm not panicking if I'm the Blackhawks.

Like, I think you're fine. I think, I think Bard's fantastic. and I think you're going to be great and I think there's some really low-key, cheeky, great pieces and players in that team. But the fact that you have, I mean, remember like 20 games through, there were Blackhawks fans being like,

we are better than the ducks and the sharks, and Badaard is better than Macklin and Leo. And now I'm like, how do you feel now? And like, I reject any, like, injury comments because I'm like, no, that's not why. Like, it's like, these teams are where they are for a reason. So it's interesting. Um, but yeah, man, I, I, I just think this the, I think genuinely, dude, maybe as soon as next year, the Pacific goes through Anaheim and San Jose.

Could be cool, dude, it could be extremely cool. It could be very, very cool. It's crazy to think about, but it might be true. I'm through, dude, it's been actually so awesome. You always kind of wait for the jumps. We've been saying in the Atlantic forever, like, oh my God, it's Boston, in Toronto, Tampa, over and over and over. And it's hard when you're the fans of those teams finally falling, but it's sick just to see the young teams who built it right, dude, who drafted right, who built it right. And to have the ducks and the sharks come up now.

And it, dude, it already happened in the Atlantic. The Atlantic runs through Montreal and Buffalo now. Yeah. Like, by, by, bye, bye, bye, Tampa. Like, you know, it's, it's undeniable. Toronto dead. Tampa's dead. Boston's still fighting.

but Atlantic belongs to Montreal and Buffalo. The Pacific soon belongs to Anaheim and San Jose. Wow. And the central belongs to Utah. Wow. Colorado's like, what? Yeah. Yeah, Nate. And frankly, and Minnesota.

Yeah, like, what the fuck is going on? Fuck off. Yeah, dude, it's fucking crazy. But it's like exciting times. Exciting times for the ducks. But I just think I am so impressed with Vegas. So many people. Oh, dude.

They're amazing. I don't want to say counted them out, but like all the question marks at goal tending, is the Marner thing going to work? I think anyone who didn't think it was going to work was out of their mind. We both stoned in. Like, what did we say with Marty? It was like game three was their best game of playoffs. Yeah.

Maybe. I can't remember exactly. Yeah. I would say this one is right there. It's like game three of this series, but then it's game six, Utah, game six ducks, where Vegas seems to get better as the series goes on, right? Like they kind of learn your playing style. they can adapt because they've done this before in playoffs.

They get better as it goes. And again, I said this earlier, but to do this without Mark Stone, to get the wins that they've gotten in the last couple of games without Mark Stone, I mean, that is why you were a championship contender flat out. 100% correct. 100% correct. So we'll see if he, I mean, if Stoner is suiting up on Wednesday, they got to be laughing. I mean, right?

Yeah. They feel unbelievable that they got through this good, scrappy ducks team. team in six and they get this nice little time off and all of a sudden Stone is healthy for game one you feel great

you're not maybe you're not laughing because you're playing the fucking Colorado avalanche but this this all of a sudden what we thought might have been we were looking at Colorado Minnesota

and being like that's kind of the final that's the Western final now I'm like Vegas goes not so fast yeah maybe it was this maybe maybe maybe maybe they got it right.

Fucking Bettman. He's everyone's question in the playoff format. And now here we are with an unbelievable matchup. That's the guy Gary. Someone said this earlier in the chat, but if Buffalo wins,

it's all the one seeds, which is crazy. Because in my mind, I'm like, oh, it's been chaos, but it's like, no, actually it hasn't been at all. It's just chalk.

Yeah. Like, what the fuck? But it feels, it feels exciting the whole way. And it's cool that Buffalo is as close as they are to even make that a possibility.

And Dan, I would say not to jump the gun. But actually, it doesn't matter. Buffalo or Montreal, so I'm not jumping the gun at all. I am really, really excited to see how the conference finals go because I legitimately just can't tell. But what I'm getting at is what is sick is you have two teams in the canes and the abs who have been juggernauts. 8-0, 8-1 have just absolutely rolled. And then the other teams have battled six-game series, seven-game series, really going for it. So I'm, I'm, I'm, it's going to be sick because it's like,

we're going to find out soon. Are the abs and canes just going to sweep into the cup? And then we'll get those two, two Titans meeting. Or are they going to be in a dog fight for the first time these playoffs? And that'll be sick to watch too. Both are awesome options.

Either you go, wow, we're watching like generational teams or we're like, oh shit, dude, they got hit in the mouth. Everyone's got a plan until you get hit in the mouth. So, you know, those are going to be money. Yeah, it's going to be money. Well, for the first time in a long time, we don't have a hockey game tonight. Yeah, which is actually extremely sad.

I don't enjoy that. I love it. I'm going to watch a movie. I'm going to finally watch a movie for the first time and forever. Good for you, Dan. It's incredible. I'm so excited. What do you got going on?

I mean, we can end the show, but we can also just hang out. It's Friday, you know? It's Friday. It's a Friday. Fuck around. Oh, I do want to say one more time. Hey, shout out to all of you in the chat. Shout out to the network.

We've got the Godro family 5K. Over a thousand. We did it. Yes, I was going to post on the story right after this, but we fucking did it, dude. That was awesome. Unbelievable. We did it. All the signups are there. That doesn't mean you have to stop signing up because obviously being a part of this and donating to an unbelievable cause honoring the memory and the legacy of John and Maddie Goddrault is incredible. And we thank you so much for everyone who did that or still wants to do it. It's still open to donate. And a reminder, I'm going to post a story about this as well. I'm doing a walk tomorrow in New York City. If you want to come and walk with me, it's going to be a fun little walk. We're going to wind up at Blue Haven Tavern for some food, maybe a drink if you like. And it's going to be fun. It's going to be amazing. But huge, huge shout out and love and thank you to all of you who donated and signed up because we reached and surpassed our goal. It's amazing. So awesome, dude.

That was really, really cool. So yeah, get that walk going. Enjoy your weekend, Dan. I'm going to be, I got to work. I got to do a little work. And then I'm going to try to ride a horse, dude. I want, if you don't get a video of you riding a horse and post it, then you don't believe in empty netters, you don't believe in growing our content, and you don't believe in growing this business. Shane says he's going to ride one shirtless.

That, you know what? Shane shirtless with his disgusting hair and mustache on a horse is actually perfect that needs to happen. Correct. They're like that. I also want that. filmed and posted. Yes, I'm going to make sure I'm going to make sure I figure it out. Do you think you're going to get a gallop or do you think they won't let you gallop? I don't think they'll let us probably. Maybe though, I'm in Ecuador. Like maybe they go,

what do you mean? There are no rules. Do you think they have waivers in Ecuador? Yeah. Fuck no. Kill or be killed, dude. The cartel is right across the border. Dude, there's a polo game here tomorrow. Like literally right here. And I'm going to be watching the shit out of that. And if I ride well enough today, I might try to get into this sub. Yeah, dude. Be an End of the bench. End of the bench sub, dude. Just like, you know, let me laugh. Come on.

Dude, you'll be a polo ebug. It's incredible. It's incredible. All right. That's going to do it. Great live app, folks. Beautiful stuff. Have an amazing.

No crash. No crash. No crash. Looks like it's Netters International, folks. This is the only way the live works. But shout out Zach. Shout out Hurls.

Amazing job getting the live cooking. We will see you on Monday morning. We're going to have some fun guests, fun shit going on. Have an amazing weekend. Be safe. Have fun. And shout out Doc Marner. Shout out Doc Marner. Greatest nickname in the league. Amazing.