Empty Netters Podcast - NHL Trade Deadline Rumors and Olympic Gold Medal Stories w/ Taylor Heise and Cayla Barnes

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

All the hottest trade deadline rumors and some are truly insane. Taylor Heise and Cayla Barnes join the show to talk about the iconic run the USA Women’s hockey team had in Milan. The Professors of Puckline are back and there’s a wild game of connective tissue. Chapters:0:00 - Intro04:59 - Trade Predictions57:58 - Taylor Heise interview1:40:53 - Cayla Barnes interview2:09:50 - Professors Puckline2:23:06 - Connective Tissue gamePRESENTED by BetMGM. Download the BETMGM app and use code “NETTERS” and enjoy up to $1500 in bonus bets if you lose your first wager!Thanks to our Sponsors!BetMGM: Use bonus code NETTERS when signing up to receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your first bet loses.Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US)877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY)1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR)21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. See BetMGM.com for Terms. First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This promotional offer is not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico.Find LUCY near you at lucy.co/stores, or save 20% on your first online order at lucy.co/NETTERS with promo code NETTERS.For more information on compliant messaging and to dive deeper into each product for your own education, please refer to LUCY’s in-depth guidelines HERE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all year? Not I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.

So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Finish tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guineasas and ran into you guys. That's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready, and we are back with another episode of the empty netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers over here in a gorgeous, gorgeous penguins, uniform on the sticks. Evan Watkins, talk to the people. Hey.

This is like a child size from the 90s. Yeah, but that's the move. I'm not a jersey guy, but if you're going to wear a jersey, you got to wear small ones so they fit like normal t-shirts. They're too blousey. They're way too blousey now. This is like my stepping out jersey. wear this under a leather jacket. You're doing something with the sleeve roll too. Oh, because they won't go down all the way. I'll look like Frankenstein otherwise. No, no, no, no, keep don't, I don't even want to

see it roll down. Yeah, it's awesome. It looks too good. By the way, you, great turtleneck. Hey, thanks. Listen, this is my truth. I'm a British boy. I just have decided even in Los Angeles, I'm going to start dressing more my truth. And if you don't like it, you can stuff it. And this is a historic week, because over here to my left, again, I normally insult this guy. But earlier this week, he got engaged, and now today, it's his birthday. What?

Chris Bowers. Poo, Poo, Poo, Poo, Poo, Poo, Poo, Poo, Poo, as always. Happy birthday, man. Wow, dude. We're also getting a live look at C.P.'s birthday tradition. Treat myself to a little sausage egg and cheese McGrittle every year on my birthday. First thing that happens when I wake up.

He also gets a maple glazed donut, and watches the original cartoon Disney picture of Peter Pan. And gets a bowl of clam chowder for lunch. Really? Yep. Where are you getting the clam chowder from? Don't know because I feel like we're right here. It must be a good spot.

Must be. I haven't researched yet. There's plenty. There's that one like blue sea free place. Blue plate taco. Blue plate taco. No, no, I'm talking about like if the building is blue. Oh.

It's called like Captain Jack or something. It looks like it's from like the 80s or seven. No, that's way too nice. This is like a, you know, a. Like a plastic bib place. I once went to Connie and Ted's on like a Wednesday to get, I got a good friend named Dan Shore. Shout out Dan Shore.

Shout out Dan Shore. We always do, we do Dan days a lot. And we went and we got some drinks at Connie and Ted's, and it turned into us having like five martinis at Connie and Ted's. We both had to leave our cars there. It was crazy. Great oysters. We got a lot of oysters, too.

Smart move. You know how girl dinner is like, I think it might even be a martini, but it's like a martini and French fries. and like Caesar salad. I think hot boy dinner is like oysters and a martini. Because it can't be a lot of food. That was lunch in the Mad Men days.

Yeah. Yeah, you wonder where they vomit and piss all over each other by the afternoon. Not the best guys back then. Damn, did they have fun. It would go to lunch and have like three martinis and oysters and come back ham. Yeah. And closed deals. When everybody's that drunk, it's easy.

You know, it's like you're all kind of the playing field. Dude, that was the key. You would take out a client, you'd loosen them up, you'd get them a little lubricated, and then you'd close deals. Yeah, we're not closing deals. I love that they had couches. You know what? We've talked about a million times.

Gen Z, all this new generation, no one's drinking anymore, and also it feels like nothing's getting done. It's because we're not drunk. That is when shit got done. It's true. Everyone knows that. It's hard to argue. Listen, we've got a great episode today.

It's a CP birthday episode. we've also got Olympic gold medalist Taylor Heise and Kayla Barnes on the show. Come on. Come on. It's incredible. I couldn't be happier to have them here. Both decked. Well, it was actually funny because Barnesy, you know, Heisey, I think she says in the recording how she's been traveling a lot. Yeah. But at least in this moment of the recording she's home and at peace. And Barnes is just still on the road, you know. In a hotel. I also want to say Taylor is. Taylor's so great and so funny about, you know, she posts a lot of stuff on, on socials and does

funny TikToks and stuff like that. Kayla needs to be infinitely more famous. Yes, agree. Like a decorated Olympian. And also just one of the best people you will literally ever talk to. I absolutely love that human being. She is, I love them both. She's the homie.

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, she is the homie. And I'll save it. We'll let everyone get to it. We got Professor Puckline back. the professors are finally making a return after the Olympic break. We're going to play some games.

We're going to get into it. But for now, we've got to get into the hot ice because baby, it's here. By the time you're listening to this, tomorrow is the trade deadline. A lot of buzz, a lot of stuff going on. I feel like we got edged a little bit yesterday. I'm going to be on X this whole episode, just seeing if anything happens. But it does feel like we got edged yesterday. There was just a lot of stuff going on, a lot of talk.

Buffalo in the news, Robert Thomas in the news. We even got some, we got some Austin Matthews sprinkles. Not by me. Well, by you in private. In private. Not yesterday. This might be your favorite time of year. I love trade deadline.

Your little GM bitch. It is my, my holidays are Christmas, trade deadline. I think we might have Tyler Myers to Dallas buzzing right now. Really? It literally just happened. Tyler Myers. No fucking way. Trade it to Dallas. I wrote this dude. Beow, boom, pew. We need a breaking news noise.

My psycho no stop. Where did I write this shit? Yeah, you know, it should be the Rob Thomas Santana song. Whoa, that would be so when he gets. Yeah. And not even just for Rob Thomas. No, just in general. Just in general. I'll find it. That's a great get, dude. Tyler Myers has been traded to the Dallas Stars. Would they give up? I thought, because I thought he could go ducks. to be honest. Let's see what Darren is saying. God, right shot D. Dragger on the

report. Looks like what are we saying, drag? Show me. Sounds like pending trade call Tyler Myers will land in Dallas. I love it. They do. I literally forgot we were alive for a second. I was like, I was just like, that's how horny I get for trade deadline.

You just zoned out. I zoned out so hard. I was like, I got to fire something off. This is fantastic. Okay. What a great way. Again, this will be old news by the time you listen to this. But Tyler Myers is being traded to Dallas as we record this episode. The details will come out. So we'll be reporting on it.

But let's get into it. Let's get into our hot ice. We're only talking about trade deadline stuff today. We got a list of guys that might be on the move. CPI. I love it when you Sherpa us through all this stuff. Okay. So why don't you take the reins here as our Sherpa and talk to us about a bunch of guys that you've got on your big board?

These are people that I thought, I did a list of people I thought could move, and then I also had some thoughts. Yeah. And predictions and stuff later. Vinnie Trocheck. I'm going to give you age, cap hit and term. Yes. For everybody. Vinie Trocheck, 32, 5.6 mil, three years. He has announced, I say he is certainly getting traded. However, he has made a statement that he will not go to West team. Which just devastates me because I felt as though The Minnesota Wilde made a ton of sense. Reunite with Bill Garen after the gold medal win. Billy G. rode so hard for him, but doesn't want to go west. So let's first get into 32, three years left on his deal, 5.1. That's just fantastic. That's incredible, too. It's fantastic value.

I didn't realize he was on that value. I don't even think this is a question. I've got my answer. I feel like it's obvious. Do the old return. Hmm. Carolina. That's not even that far.

It's not far at all. And it's also just like, can we be real? Carolina always talking about the fact that they need another center. They need like their 2C, bump stank back to the wing. Vinny Trochak goes back to Carolina. He said contender too. And that is a contender.

Absolutely. You hear what his, apparently his kid said, I'm not going anywhere, either one who got traded. Is that, was that Vinny who said that? I think that's right. That is so fun. funny. Trochec was like, he sat down and talked to his family and he was like, hey, like, there's a world where, you know, daddy gets traded. And this kid was like, I mean, that's cool,

dude. Like, I'm in the middle of my season. I'm ripping it up with my friends. I'll, I'll fucking see you when I see you, pal. Yeah. Just get me, leave me the keys. Leave me the keys to the fucking upper west side spot. Yeah, I mean, come on. I absolutely love that. You know what else I love? Tampa. Um, I'm not, I'm not doing anything crazy here. I'm picking the two, I'm picking the top team in the Atlantic top team in the, in the Met. but both could absolutely use solidification down the middle. What if he went to Boston? That would be very cool.

I kind of love that. I think Boston would love him. Are you prepared to call Boston a contender? Yes. Certainly more than the rags. I love that. Now you're in a playoff race. Well, what do he means?

He's really more than the rags. Him staying with the Rangers is not on the table. But he's saying, get me to a contender. So the rags can go, you can go anywhere. And you are now on a contender. Yeah. But, I mean, I'm not, I, I, you look at Carolina's cap, space. I mean, that's like an easy deal for them.

Go to Boston. Boom. First we're in a blender, now we're saving lives. Come on. Now we're saving lives. He doesn't have to move very far. That's what I'm saying. He can just take the train.

He's quick. He can train to his kid's game. These are quick. Boom. But I mean, really? Okay. Vinich Rocheck, on the move. Vinny Trocheck is on the move.

You say, Carolina, Boston. Tampa. Nice, I like it. I hit all three. Next guy had eyes on. Dougie Hamilton,

32, nine-mill two-year term. All right, I'm going to be real here. Dougie, this is a complicated one. Because we're hearing about Kovicevich.

We're hearing about Simone Nemich, which I think is, I think it would be crazy if the devils gave up on him. And we're hearing about Dougie. We knew

that they needed to make a defensive move. I've been saying it for years, man. New Jersey, what are you doing? How did they not do it this summer? They could have gotten better. Yeah, they could have. And they chose not to. And then Jack cut his hand.

Then Jack cut his hand. Are you eliminating the devils from the playoffs? Maybe. I think it's got to be more than a maybe. I just thought they have 62 points and the second wildcar team has 73. I just like Jack would return and then change everything. I just, I think they would literally have to win 20 straight games. But they could. I mean, yeah. I think they're out of playoffs. I am eliminating the New Jersey Devils from playoffs. Okay. Then in which case you move them.

In which case, you've got to move people and Dougie feels like a, why wouldn't you move? And I, I'm sorry, I want to go back to the trade that wasn't. Why not San Jose? Ooh, because I know I did see a report that they were like, I love that, Dan. And I actually think you said this is complicated. I think the world is complicated, but I don't think it is. I think the world is complicating this duggy trade. This nine number is not high at all. And I will give you that that is actually fair. And he's 32 and has two more years. You know, like it's not like this is a, oh yeah, like this is this is a very normal. trade. I think the problem with Dougie in, I'm going to go through his games. Last time he played 82, 2022, 2023. He then played 20, 64 last year and is at 56 this year, which is, I mean, fine, because he might get up, that could turn into 76 and that's just a great season. He's, he's kind of jumped in his spark a little bit. He's got nine goals, 16 assist for 25 points. So it's like, okay, that's not what you want from nine mill. But, he's, he's, he's kind of jumped in his spark a little bit. He's got nine goals,

he's been coming alive a little bit more. He had 74 points in that 82 season when he was only 29 years old. Yeah. Like is he that far removed from that? He's only 32. And I think, I think, what an insane year that was.

Sixth and Norris voting. He does feel like that guy, not a Norris guy, but like sixth than the Norris guy. To me, Dougie should be, he's just such a, God, he's so exciting. Yeah. He's big. He's got hands.

He's got a good shot. I mean, San Jose. It's crazy to me that Dougie has been on four NHL teams. I know. I know. I know. I like San Jose. I kind of like a West move for him.

I'm sure the Devils would like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I like a West move for him. Dallas just made their move for Meyer, so they're out. I don't see Dougie in that cap hit getting to someone like Colorado. I don't see it happening in Minnesota. Vegas got Anderson. Anaheim is we all keep asking like is Anaheim happy with their D or are they going to make a move on D

Anaheim is the only team in the top six in as in first through third in both the Pacific and the central that has a minus goal diff so like they could improve defensively but is Dougie the guy that makes you improve defensively I don't know I don't know either I don't know so maybe we roll them out anaheim er excuse me Edmonton can't afford him what about Utah What about the mammoth? I wanted the mammoth to take... The mammoth are pumping in goals in their goal. I know.

So do they need Dougie? Maybe. Doesn't the mammoth... You want to talk like... Yeah, the mammoth? Interesting. They have an interesting decor. How do you feel about Dougie on the power play?

I like him on the power play. Is Dougie helping a team's power play? You know what I mean? Like, oh, here's a crazy. one? Nah, I don't like it. That's crazy. I was going to bring up the Islanders.

The Islanders playoff team, tough power play. Yeah, need a boost. Need a boost. Washington tough power play. Mammoth, 26th. They've got that great plus gold differential

with their 26 in power play. Ducks 23rd in power play. I don't know. Duggy Hamilton, maybe get him going on the power play a little bit. Interesting. Mammoth's interesting. I think Dougie moves.

I don't. I think he moved. I think Dougie Hamilton, I think... Devils will be done. I'm, in my ranking of Devils moving a defenseman this deadline, I've got Kovicevich first, Nemich, second, Dougie third. I just think it's, it continues to be too complicated for them. So, I don't know.

I don't see it. Okay. Next guy I have. Cadry, 35, 7-mill, 3-year term. I don't hate It's happening You think so I have two

Lead this one I have two This has been a long time Coming Okay I feel like every year We're like Cadry Codry Agree

And I now This is the last year I will ever bring up Codry Because either he's getting traded This year Or he's just going to die On the flames

Because he doesn't care And I don't mean he doesn't care As to be a good hockey player I just mean he's like All good I got my money and I'm happy and I don't want to move again. And I think a man reaches a point

where that reality that I just described sets in and he goes, you know what? I haven't cared, but now I don't want to just, I'm too old. I'm 35, I don't want to just die here. So I am going to move right now before it's too late. And there's one team that I have a prediction for that I actually think is going to happen.

My second prediction, my 1B prediction, is this. this, and this is cliche, but it just does make a lot of sense, which is back to Colorado. I know. But does that make a lot of sense? Yeah. Because Cadry to me is too good to be on your third line. Not he is, but what a luxury. And at this age, asking him to come in and just do that. And just win another cop. Yes. I'm like, hey, dude, you don't, I don't need you to do that much. Don't hate it, Chris. That's fucking juicy. That is, that's a sexy thought. We know you. We, Nate, knows you. Nate does know you and that's important to Nate. Yes, it is. Nate likes familiarity. You got to make, there's, there's some shuffle going on there.

Yep. But again, seven mill, not that crazy. Right. Not that crazy. I could see Cadry being like, I got my cup. I like it here in Calgary, the great people of Calgary. Yeah. We're going to stick it out. I'm going to hang. Calgary continues to be such an interesting one for me. Anderson moving was a big push in the direction of they have the vets that I love like Codry, um, backland and at a time, Anderson and weeks. And it was like, could they figure it out with these young guys? But they,

they haven't. Yep. So now it's like, okay, do we fire sale? Yeah. Cadry's obviously going to be at the top of this list. But I, I, I think Dallas makes sense too. For Codry. Yeah. I like that a lot. With Sagan gone. Yep. Like, that's the same role, right? But do you think he moves or do you think he goes, no, I don't ever move. I actually think I could see Cadry moving this year. Me too. Okay. The next one I wanted to flag, Elias Pedersen. I'd like to move on. I don't think he moves. 27 years old, 11.6 mil,

six years of term. I agree he stays, but the rub is, so we can move on, but the rub is the Canucks would give anything to trade him. they they they they would love to trade him right now i don't think so yes they would i don't think so but they can't they literally cannot i by the way i feel bad for not mentioning uh jonathan huberdo in that calgary discussion yep fair um but i bring him up now as to say elias peterson was at a time a 100 point player he currently has 13 goals 22 assists 35 points in 52 games he is his value is so low that trading him now would be catastrophic. So I don't think that they,

I don't think that they would be thrilled to trade him. Okay, fair, yeah. 100% fair, because the value is low. Everyone's, by the way, everyone's talking that it's a buyer's market. I think it was like dredge or maybe it was, I don't know, one of the big J. Journows tweeted out like everyone's calling it a buyer's market.

It feels like fucking groundhog day for me when people go, buyers market, sellers market. It's based off like, one trade. It's like the Panarin trade and they're like this, it's a buyer's market. And I'm like, well, maybe that was just one trade. Because then we've got St. Louis out here being like, give me, yo, first two born children for Rob Thomas. So I'm like this. That feels like a seller's market. Yeah. So I don't know. This trade deadline is going to be a nightmare. I can already tell.

I don't think Elias Pedersen moves. I think it is the worst time possible to try to move. And it is ridiculous for a team and with all respect to Eli Patterson because he was one of my favorite players to watch when he was absolutely buzzing and he's a great dude. Yeah. With all due respect to him, it would be insane for a team to take on that contract with that many years left. I agree. If with the inconsistent way, it's just such a gamble.

Yeah. Okay, next one I had on Possible. Jordan Kairu, 27 years old, 8.1 mil five year term. That's amazing. I think it's a summer trade. Kyru also not playing that well this season. I think he's got like 33 points or something like that. Is that right?

He's 8.1's not nothing, dude. It's not nothing, but it's not, that's not bad for that term. It's not nothing. Like, holy shit. But you're also picking that up, he's 27, you're picking that up for five years into his age 32, and he's playing poorly. And I don't agree with it at all,

but all the language about this guy has not been great. I know. So it's like, what the hell are we doing? Can we start talking positively about our fucking players folks? All these beat writers for teams. I'm like, why are you dissing this guy? Yeah, they're like, let's caro. Let's gas him up. And then even if you do trade him, wouldn't it be better if you were gassing him up? Because then the team you write for gets a good return. They'll start being nicer to people. You know where I think he moves. Really? You know where I like him? Where? You just named him. Dallas? Nope. Little Pee-P help? Oh, little Pee-P help for the Islanders. For the Islanders. man

Kairu wouldn't that be fun I like a Pal Mary replacement boom go to go to the island play PP1 Kairu on the island is interesting

I love it Dan I love it Kairu on the island is very interesting CP I think that would be an amazing trade

I think that there's a massive opening in the top six wings situation there good God this team is doing so well for how injured they are I know

and think about that dude and I know the blues have set their prices, but it just feels like the Rob Thomas price. I mean, you just said it. The blues have soured on Cairo. I know, but I still think they're going to ask for a lot. They're going to make a big ask, but I'm just saying the Rob Thomas price, I think you almost get to get Kyru for less because

of how crazy they're going for Rob Thomas. I, Chris, I think it's the greatest. I don't know if it's birthday juju, but Kyru to the island is sensual. I like that a lot. I think it's the, I think it's the, there's going to be a lot of cap maneuvering going on there. I think it's the great trade of the deadline. Yeah. That's really, really fun. Okay, my next one. Ryan O'Reilly. The fact- Actually, not that much. People are done for the year for the island. They would only have to move like $2 million. That's what I'm saying. Go get hired. I love that. Ryan O'Reilly. 35 years, 4.5 mil one year. Absolutely moving straight to Dallas, baby. I think it's literally one team. One team. Ryan O'Reilly makes so much sense on this Dallas team. They love their old Wiley vets. Why not make it work with Factor? I, I, I, I, I love that idea. I actually do too, but you know where I think he's going, for sure.

And this was my, this was my peace de resistance. Actually, Cairo to the island is my peace de resistance, but this is my second. By the way, Factor is having an insane. I know. I need people to stop what you're doing right now and acknowledge this. 35-year-old Ryan O'Reilly. Everyone's like, oh, yeah, he's like, you know, he's a 60-point guy. He's just a great set.

He's going to win, draws. He's going to keep... He has fucking 59 points in 61 games. Like, he is about to have an 80-point season. This dude, get this dude on a fucking Dallet. And Dallas would be incredible, but I'm telling you, this trade needs to get done.

Talk to me. I think it will, and it will decide this season. Islander. Yes. Boom. Ducks? I said, Cadre, 35 years old, 7 mil. Ryan O'Reilly, 35 years old.

Are you going to send him back to Colorado? Where it started. Boom. Ryan O'Reilly goes back to Colorado, wins a cup. 4.5 mil. Are you shitting me, dude? I can't believe they haven't already done this. Okay.

Okay, but hold on. Do we need to consider the fact that maybe, or not the fact, the idea that maybe he's having the year he's having because he's playing on that top line with Stammer and Evangelista flip in there on power play and stuff like that. And if you send him to Colorado and you're like, you're on the third line, it's not that good of a pickup. Well, we don't need those 80 points. We don't need those 80 points. I just go win some draws. Yeah, I need him to, I need him to be a son of a bitch to play against against him. playoffs, which he's done.

He's won a cup. I'm like, dude, Ryan O'Reilly back to the abs. He's literally wins them a cup and brings him home and they love doing that and I'm like, what are we talking about here? And I love Codry, but I'm like, you're trying to move money around to get Codry. Ryan O'Reilly is staring you in the fucking face and you can have him

for free and you win a cup. Oh, man. I love that idea. I cannot believe he is not already on the aves. Okay. I hear the, their abs are like, we're kicking times on Rob Thomas I'm like, you don't need Rob Thomas. It's like in the rom-com when you have the girl with the brown hair and the glasses.

You always go take the glasses off. He takes his glasses off, lets his hair down. I'm like, holy shit, he prishes up the beard. And you're like, Jesus Christ, he's a handsome motherfucker. Dude, I, listen, Dallas makes so much sense to me, but I really do love this. I'm going to pause real quick because we got the Tyler Myers details. Okay, nice. Tyler Myers, two Dallas for a second round pick in 27 and a fourth round pick in 29,

Vancouver retaining 50% on the remainder of his contract, which makes him simply a $1.5 million player this year and next. It's a great trade. It's a great trade. Draft picks me nothing. Graphics me nothing. Prospects me nothing. That is the official empty netter stance.

Draft picks me nothing, prospects mean nothing. When people lose their mind, they go, you know, Rob Thomas, for example. People are talking about Toronto with Rob Thomas. and they were like, oh yeah, Easton Cowan is one of the asks, and Toronto fans are going, absolutely not, he's untouchable. And I always go, I feel as though you pray to God, Easton Cowan becomes Robert Thomas. So why would you not make that trade? Because it's not a guarantee. Dude, here's a, here's a comp. They mean nothing. I would trade. I'm being dead ass right now. I'm being hyperbolic a lot on this show. I'm being completely serious. If I was a GM and I said,

hey, trade me, how old's but David, 28 or something? 29. I think so. And like McCarr's like 22. seven or something. I would go, if someone goes, or I would go like this, I would happily go, trade me Connor McDavid, and I will trade you my first round pick every year until he retires. Literally, you can have my first until he retires. And I think people would be like, you can't do that. I'd be like, I would happily do that. Who gives a fuck what my like late 20s, early 30s first round pick is going to be while I have Connor McDavid bringing me to the minimum conference finals every year. Yeah. And people are like, there are picks. And I'm like, Nope. Take the talent. Take the proven talent every time.

Next. Yeah. Braden Shen, 34 years old, 6.5 mil two years. I don't think he moves. Me neither. Yeah. I feel like he's just like, I think he's like a culture guy that you need. If you're going to keep Monty, which I believe that they should. I believe Armstrong wants to. I think Shen is an important person to keep around. So I don't think he moves. then this one I just wrote down because I thought it was funny. No offense, but I thought it was funny because it was on the list. Evander King, 34 years old, 5.1 million UFA.

I don't, I can't believe. He's toxic, right? There's just no way. There's just no way that someone right now is picking up Avander Kane to be like, this is the piece. I don't know the man personally.

Yep. But obviously it feels as though everywhere he goes, it comes with some sort of baggage. Something happens. I, and I just don't get, if this dude was like, uh, Pat Maroon, yeah, in that is like the motherfucker, Big Rig just went to teams and they won cups. Like, he's just like the ultimate locker room guy. He is, like, he knows what it takes to win. He'll do whatever it takes to win.

If, if Evander was just a lucky charm. Yeah. Then I'd get it. And we're talking. Maybe it's worth the baggage. But I just, it seems like, I don't get it. Yep. Every time it comes up, and I'm like, why would anyone do that? McKenzie Wigar. Weigs. 32 years old, 6.25 mil. Five years. What a fucking contract. Weigs is, I, Wegg is a friend of the program.

Yes, he is. Weigs is one of the better dudes we've ever met. Yep. And he is just a phenomenal player. He's having a down year. Weigs might win the Masters this year. Yep. I mean, the flames sink because they ask too much of Dustin Wolf.

and they stunk last year and McKenzie Weger. Yes. And they sunk last year and then Dustin Wolf's like rookie phenom year mask, how horrible they were.

Here is what I will say. Yep. This dude is only 32. Five years left on his deal at 6.25. That number means nothing for the next five years.

And I am telling you this, if I were a team that needed a defenseman and there are teams that are going to be looking at rentals and things like that. Dude, I would fucking be frothing

at the mouth to make a trade for McKenzie Uighur right now because he's having a down year for his standards, three goals, 18 assists in 60 games. This dude is a like 60 point defense. Yep. And wants to, is so loyal, wants

to win, so bad. He's a fucking beauty. He's a locker room hero. This is a guy. This is a guy. This is a guy. that you want on your team. And let me tell you right now, dude, I would fucking do anything

to snag him if I were the San Jose sharks. Oh, good one. Dude, this, really good one. All the sharks need is defense. And you're telling me that you could get a vet-like weeks who is going to be good for at least three, four more years at that low of a hit to add some offense and just good veteran leadership to that blue line.

They have all the cap space in the fucking world. I would be all over this if I were the San Jose sharks all over. I love that, you know, and I don't think he moves because... Me too, I think he's just so loyal.

He's like, I don't need it. We'll build it here. We'll build it. And I respect him for that. I actually do. But this, I would... I'm so with you. I think you would have to be a fool

to not get him right now because the getin's good. And like you said, trade every fucking pick who gives a shit. Yeah. Dude, this team that I'm about to name is actively looking for right shot D. They have an incredible run of left shot D.

Like actually they do. They have an amazing back end. They're active looking for right shot D. They threw around Tyler Myers. They've thrown around Ristolin. I would pay money out of my own wallet to put McKenzie Weger on this team right now. The Anaheim Ducks. Chris, I have the Ducks roster right in front of me right now.

Literally, dude, and I go weeks. You want to build something? like we are, we are the new force in the NHL over the next five years. How much, what does I say his term was? He's got fucking six point two. He's got five years left. I'm like, dude, do you have any idea how good the ducks are going to be? It's the exact same situation as the sharks.

Yeah, because if you add him, I love Drew Hellson, but if you add him to that right side and you can move Troops and Goudis to the second third pairing where they are dominant. Yep. They're the best seen at all time. him with Jackson-Laconne-Kone McKenzie Weigar. Dude, are you shitting that? Again, to me, it's the same situation

as the sharks. They both have great cap space and they both have significant need on that right side and it would just be such an addition. Same thing with the sharks, like if you, if you're now playing him with Orlov or Ferraro and he's just like your right, I mean, dude, go get him. I'm getting too horny. Same. I am, I am,

it's the pattern in the pants. I wore pleaded of the pants. No, this is just a quick this is your current fit, right? Yeah, I mean... Where's your gun holster? I love that. Yeah, yeah, what's it called?

I had to check it at the gate, dude. Who are you here to kill? I love it. Okay, next one I had, Bobby McCann, 29 years old, 1.35 mil UFA, rental. I think he... Say, so I'll say again, sorry.

Bobby McMahon, I said McCann. Bobby McMahon. I think he... I mean, are you deading the Leafs? There's a couple of Leafs guys that I think could move if you're deading them. I am deading them then I think he could go

but they're not going to get that much this is going to be like a mid-pick it feels like a key for sheerwood move to me like I love players like this like these are the rich peverleys of the world they make a difference it's an ad that could win you a cup

honestly I don't really know who I see as like the that's the the guy that, or that's the team that needs this? Yep, I have some thoughts, but okay. No, I know. He's having a good year. I know, I know. 30 points,

like 19 goals, like this is a guy, I gotta stop saying that. What? This is a guy, I keep saying it. Too much. But that's an ad that I love in a middle six somewhere. Exactly. I really like in a middle six somewhere. Well, let me roll it right into this.

Yeah, yeah. Blake Coleman. 34, 4.9 mil one year. Blake Coleman won a couple Stanley Cups for a team. Sure. And this is the most Tampa move of all time. Yeah, it is. I was actually about to say Detroit. Bring back a Blake Coleman. I was going to say Detroit, which is similar because Stevie Y was, you know, in the Tampa sphere

when they were making moves like that. Tampa always does this. That's my call this year. Tampa Bay brings back Blake Coleman. super fair offer and then he slots right in and they just bolster up for their cup. Okay, so I like Bobby for Detroit. Okay, that's nice. Next one, Rob Thomas, 26 years old, 8.1 mil. Yes. Do you get breaking moose?

Oh, wait. Don't play it too long. Otherwise we'll get demonetized. There you. Yeah. Rob Thomas, 26 years old, 8.1 mil, five years. It looked like yesterday that Buffalo had them. Yeah, and then I think Buffalo was like your ask is too big.

Which it is. You're getting too big. Yep. Which it is. I would do it now. You would trade him. Yeah. He's another one that...

I mean, dude, if you can get anything near the stuff they've been asking, then yes, you trade it. Yes. Because Rob Thomas went from being the most underrated player in the NHL to this week becoming the most overrated player. He is the most eligible bachelor. But here's the thing. Robbie T. missed some time this year. he's got 35 points in 43 games.

He's a zero plus minus on a tough blues team. So like, that's nice. Yeah. This guy, he's such a good player. And, oh my God, I love him. I love him and I'd love him to go to a team. I really, I would have loved him in Buffalo. I would have loved that.

Still could happen. Still could happen. It is clear that teams, I don't want to say, are undervaluing him, but in this buyer's market, I think teams are going, I'm actually proud of Buffalo for being like, no. Same, dude.

This ask is crazy. They wanted, I think they wanted like a prospect, Owen power, and a first round pick. And I think they were kind of like, no, like, what are you talking about? So I think that's good.

I absolutely love Robert Thomas for the Los Angeles Kings. Yeah. But that will cost them a ton too. It will, but I think it's like, it's almost time for the Kings to be like,

listen, man, I love the Panera. move. Aaron's older, he's a winger. Like, you need centers. Copi's gone. Yep. You need centers.

And Robert Thomas is a young, young, proven center in the NHL. Like, this guy is 26 years old with five years left on his deal at 8.1. That is the-8.1 is awesome. That is the steal of a lifetime if you can get 80-point, what feels like perennially 80-point Robert Thomas on your team. But ceiling, though, right? Would you agree?

Kind of? Like, I'm not going, oh, and Rob, you know, he's only 26. He's going to become a hundred point guy. I'm like, no. This dude since 2021-22 has had 77 points and 72 games, 65 and 73, 86 and 82, 81 and 70. And right now he's 35 and 40. Like, he's going to get you 80 points every year. You're telling me the Kings couldn't fucking use that?

You're telling me any team can use that at 8.1? Sometimes we get too bogged down with like, you just said ceiling. Why would it be a ceiling? He's 26. Well, that's what I was asking. I'm saying, yes. I don't think it's his ceiling. Okay.

I think he could get 90 points with the right team. I mean, he did 86. Yeah, so that's, I guess. The only problem with him is he doesn't score that often. That's all right. He's a center, dude. And I do think it's all right. If you have this movement with the Kings, I'm talking too much about the Kings with Robert Thomas,

but if it is the Kings, I'm a big believer, as I've said, in the wings on this team, in Fiala, in Kempi, in Trevor Moore, in Panarin. I mean, Panarin's not really a score either, but he did score a lot last year. Those guys can get you the goals. Have laugh, go get you the goals. and get a guy like Robert Thomas to do that. Yep. So I love that move.

It would take a lot. It would be like the big move with the Kings that everyone's talked about for years being like, are you actually going to do this or that? But I think it would be if they want to make a move that makes people go, holy fuck, they're going for it. That is one to do. I think that I love what the Blues are doing because they're going, sometimes like Panarin had to leave, right? They were like, we need to trade Panerans. Let's figure it out.

I love that the Blues are going. we actually are so fine keeping Robert Thomas for the next five years because he's great. So where if you want him, you have to weigh overpay. And if someone does, by all means, take him. But if no one does, this isn't a bridge burn. We are so happy to keep you. I was just trying to help because we're in last. Yeah. So it's actually amazing. Yeah. Next one. Tyler Myers, traded. Amazing. Next one. I think Dallas. Yeah. Michael Bunting, 304.5 mil UFA. And then I'm also going to say Scott Law and 31, 3 mil UFA. Lottie to me feels like the same Blake Coleman thing. Yep.

Like a team like Detroit. I don't actually, I don't like, because I think what I like about McCann to Detroit is there is the spark. There's the goal scoring spark there. Lottie's obviously an amazing player. But like Lottie, I think is more the guy that's going to solidify a team. Right. On their third line or something like that. So Tampa is interesting there.

Tampa is going to kick on all those guys. Even Edmonton maybe, you know. Pitt. Pitt would be kind of interesting actually. I don't hate that, Dan. That's an interesting call. Justin Falk, 33, 6.5 mil one year. I love Detroit. I said this the other day.

I don't like the one year there. Yeah, same. The Falk feels more like a rental to me. And the 33-year-old age thing is a, not a concern. I think he's got three more years for sure. but that feels more like a I mean very underrated player in the league

32 points 11 goals 60 games he feels to me like a Dallas just made their move but more of a team like that yep all right next one

Zach White Cloud 29 2.75 two years I would jump all over Whitey me too dude and this is one of those things where if Calgary's just going to blow it up, I'm like, pill for these guys. And no offense to Calgary, but I'm like, this is a right shot D at a great number who won a cup, who's a stick on the golf course, by the way. But you just got him for Rass.

It's just such a bad look. Agreed. But that's what I'm saying. Just go fleece Calgary. Again, I don't think Calgary moves him because I think it's a terrible look. Because I believe in Whitey. Me too. That's Stanley Cup winner.

He's youngish. It's a great number for two years. Like, you don't move that guy. Jake Debrusk, 29, 5.5 mil, five years, he has publicly said, I really don't want to be on this team because we stink. In so many words, not in so many words. I actually can't believe that. It feels like it is so, I mean, it was the homecoming, right? Him going there felt like it was, everyone knew it.

It felt like the obvious move Jake DeBrusk is going to go back and play where he grew up. been, it's been two years, and he's already, like, get me the fook out of here. Well, because they suck. And I will say, you know, you never want to get burned when you lose a high pick like that. I'm speaking as a Boston fan. He goes to Vancouver. His first year plays 82 games, 28 goals, career high, 20 assists, 48 points, two off his career high. Yeah. Which isn't like he lit the world on fire, but you were like, damn it. And then I think this is officially his ceiling. Okay. I think Jake DeBrusk is a 45. to 55 point player, he's always going to score more goals than he has assists and he's going

to be the streakiest forward you've ever seen. He'll score 10 goals in 10 games and then he won't score 10, he won't score goals for 15 games. But I will say at 5.5 isn't bad when he's not, like, the bees too often were like, you're our first line left wing. And I was like, you are not that, sir. But he could be valuable. And I don't blame him. I actually love one players. So like, dude, I am not, I don't give a fuck about my homecoming. We suck. And I would rather play somewhere who doesn't suck. But, I mean, if Jake DeBrusk is your third line winger and he's getting you 30, 25 goals, you know, especially on a team, I'm not saying he's going here.

That's fantastic. But on a team like Dallas, who goes, I'm just checking the lines, who often sport third lines of like fucking Jamie Ben and Wyatt. You know, they have incredible Sam Steele guys on like the third line. I'm like, if you just slot a Jake DeBrusk on a third line there, I'm like, he's dangerous now. Absolutely. And to me, it's like you, I look at teams in the standings and their goals for, and it's like the Kings are 30th. Yeah. And they're in the playoff hunt still.

Yep. I mean, it's not looking great, but they're in the playoff hunt. I'm not saying that I would do that, but that is the type of team, Seattle 25th in the league. Islanders, 21. Island, you know what? New York Islanders. New York Islanders. That is my pick for Jake DeBrusk.

He's also a good power play guy. Yeah. So you can add 25 goals a season. for what is it, five point, what? He's 5.5 for five more years. I mean, that's an interesting option. If you can't get Cairo, you go DeBrus. Detroit Red Wings, 20th in the league for goals scored.

It's Debrusk, Debrusk should be the target for a team that's not going, you're going to be on our first or even necessarily second line, but it's a playoff team or a playoff bubble team that needs goals and needs power play help. That right there is the New York Islanders. That's interesting. That's interesting.

And again, I don't think that they're going to demand a lot for that. Yes. That's like a, maybe a player in a second round, third round pick. Yeah. Here's one that came up that I didn't, I don't think is going to move, but I just wrote it down because I thought it was so interesting. Absolutely not. Shane Wright, 22 years. No way.

866K, one more year. We got to believe in him. I believe in him big time, but I thought it was interesting because if you could wiggle him out of Seattle, I would definitely do it. And maybe I'm the fool. Yeah. But I do believe in him. and not in a way that I'm, then the rangers fans believe in laugh. Just wait.

Just wait. And he's going to be a hundred point guy. Shane Wright is never going to be a hundred point guy. But I actually do think he could be laugh. And if you can, I think he'd be better. You think so? I do.

I really do. I mean, he's, the Shane Wright redemption arc has been so fun to watch. And obviously, like this year, it's, you know, it's not great. Yeah. But I think there's a player in there. Me too, but again. Maybe it is laugh. Yeah.

But that's fine. what I mean, and I think you could get him, if you could, if you could knock him loose from Seattle and get him on a super cheap deal, like a seven year, but like, you know, a couple million dollars and he becomes laugh. I'm like, boom, what a win. I mean, like, he's a third line setter. Kick tires, kick tires. And then Razman's first aligned in 31, 5.1 mil one year. He will, he will go. Absolutely has to go. One of these teams that are looking for the right shot D that we've named, he'll shake out. And I've said it a number of times.

I mean, I like Detroit. I don't know how many more times I need to say Detroit needs to get a big defenseman, but I don't know if he is the one. I mean, like, McKenzie Liger. This is what I wrote down. I was like, I swear I wrote a Dallas thing. So Tyler just went to Dallas. Yeah.

I wrote that Rasmus would go to Dallas instead because they were looking for that mid-Money, right shot D, and they have the finished mafia thing. And I was like, they're just going to take him and it's going to be perfect. So that kicks. out. And I think the ducks will kick tires on Rasmus big time if they don't do Wiggs, which I want them to do more than anything. Mackenzie Wigar to the sharks or the ducks. Would be insane. God, I want that so bad. Just a couple rogue ones that I haven't already said. I love Connor Garland to the Islanders. That came up yesterday. I've always loved Conor Garland,

and he's not the punch that a Cairo is obviously, or even a Dubrusk, maybe. Did something just happen? gentlemen Bebeep beep Beep beep Beep There you go The Florida Panthers Have just signed

Goaltender Louis Domingue To a one year Two-way contract For the remainder Of the season Bob gone Where's he going

Wait is your Did your prediction come true About moving Bob? I did post that Maybe they saw it And quickly Made a trade

Because of you I think he's going to the Oilers Dude I would die I think he's going to I would Have to get rid

of Jari in Edmont And they are a team that's like, we have a massive... Let me tell you what. If Sergey Bobrovsky, after what he has done to the Oilers the last two years, got traded to the Oilers and then won them a cup, they need to build a Sergey Bobrovsky statue on top of the Wayne Gretzky statue in Edmonton. I'm dead serious.

Because that would be the greatest, like, I am coming and begging at your feet to save us. You can't feed him joining. From the purgatory that we've been stuck in. That would be so fucking cool. Bob gone. So where do you think it is? Because let me read you the current playoff teams, okay? Wait, is it official that Bob's gone?

No, no, no, that's the indication. They just signed a goal. Right. And to me, that goes, why would you fucking do that unless you were trading a goal? Tampa. Here, I'm just going to read you the playoffs teams. Tampa, obviously not. Buffalo.

Oh, dude. Bob to Buffalo. I would not all over this studio. So hopefully that doesn't. I'm going to get an umbrella. Yeah. Buffalo. Okay.

Detroit. Probably not. even though I do think he would help. I just think they can't be like, well, we got Gibson and all the shit. Giver is so good right now, no. Carolina, I think would be amazing, but probably not. They have so many goals.

We have too many goals, bussy. Penguins. Could. We have a prospect, though, who would. Yeah, but he's not going to play this year. Yeah. Because Bob's a U.S.A. This is for the rest of the season.

You're a couple of time. I don't know that they're going to do that. For Sid, dude. I know, I'd love it. I just don't know that they are good enough for Bob. I feel like if anyone's going to trade for Bob, you're like, we're going to win. Yes, okay.

And I don't think Pittsburgh can win with Bob. And Sid back. That's a big if. Right. Again, I don't think Dubus. I don't think Dubus wants to. So Buffalo Pit on the table. Islanders, obviously not.

No. Habs. I think it's a maybe. I think Fowler and Dobesh are so good. Yeah. But again, the habs are like, they are a wild card. team, though. Like, are the HABs are going to give up their great

prospects and stuff? I don't know. I'll put it on a list. Boston, obviously not. Colorado? No. They love the woods. Oh, yeah, right. Dallas, nope. Minnesota, nope. Vegas, like. Yes. Definitely yes. Definitely yes. Bob's Vegas would be

fucking numbers. I legitimately think that the NHL world might implode. If the Vegas Golden Knights somehow swung a trade for fucking Bobrovsky, people would be like this. Like, it is the epitome of the Jesse Pinkman Giff. Like, they can't keep getting away. Right. Right. Right. What's that

meme of that chick? Who's like No. Oh, yeah. It's that. Like, it's true. It's that. It's, I mean, it would be, but like definitely, yes. Ducks. No. No. Oilers. Yes. Mammoth. I guess. But to your point, like, I don't know that they're like, we're going to win the cup right now. Yeah.

I know. Yeah. I, I, I, I agree with that. And also, like, they love, I mean, like... So really, it's Oilers' Knights. I mean, Vamelka's great. Oilers' Nights Buffalo Pit Haps. He's going to one of those teams tomorrow. Who did you think it is?

Oilers, Knights, Pittsburgh, Montreal, Buffalo. Legitimately, I think it's... I think it's... Oh my God. Okay. Hold on. Sorry, sorry, sorry. It is most realistic...

It's got to be Edmonton. It's Vegas or Edmonton. Yeah. Correct. I look at those teams and I'm like, what do you possibly have to give up? Because if I'm Florida, I am looking at you like such a piece of shit.

I'm like, I know how desperate you are. Yeah, but you're signing him back at the end of the year. I know, but still, like if you, dude, if you are Bowman and Florida and fucking Zito picks up the phone and goes, do you want Bob? I don't give a shit if Bowman goes, you're obviously just going to re-sign him. I go like this, correct, but I am literally handing you a Stanley Cup on a platter.

Do you want it? And you will say yes. So, like, I would ask for insane things back. Yep. Because for Florida, there is no, there's, they don't need to do this. Yep. There's, frankly, like, this is the biggest win-win of all time for them. Like, either someone gives them a king's ransom or they give them nothing.

and it's fine and they re-sign him for like no money. Yeah, right. So it's, it's, and, and then he gets rest too. Like, Florida has, yes, yes, goody-D-D. Florida has the entire NHL and all of these contenders bent over a barrel and looking at the 50 states. Yeah. It is insane. I actually think, I think Buffalo would be unbelievable. Me too. That would be, that's my favorite, that's my pick for how awesome it would be. And what's, what's sad is like Buffalo is playing so well and UPL is great.

Yeah, but I mean, dude. It's a little tough to be like this. Sorry, dude. You're fucking dead now. I would shoot him myself if I was Tage Thompson. With your one-timer. Yeah. I saw, this one is just I wrote down because I laughed.

I saw Elias Pedersen to the Cains. And I just, there is so little chance of that happening. And I'll happily eat crow on this clip when it does. But the way they spend properly to risk that on a team that's been inconsistent on that. And consistency is insane. I saw Nick Folino back. to the blue jackets. I actually loved that. He loves it there and has said that many times.

I just think, I'm like, okay, that'd be a great deal. It would also be kind of like a nothing burger. Yep, yep. You know, it would just be great for both. Why not? Shockingly, after all the shit I talked about this finally being the year, it's starting to feel like the wings are going to do nothing of that, of significance again. After I was like, this year, they clearly will. And I'm like, nope. Okay, I'm going to continue my my positive fraud watch warnings for the wings.

Every time I put the wings on fraud watch this year, they ripped off like 10 straight wins. They're in a great spot right now, so there's no need for fraud watch for the team. I, this is crazy for me. I am officially putting Stevie Y and the Eiser plan on fraud watch if they don't do something. I agree.

I've said so many times this year, it is now or never big dog. like drop, drop that hog on the table and do something. How long has he been running the show? He's been there since 19, I think. Is that right? I'll check. Maybe 2020.

And they have never done a major thing in that time. And yes, they, I mean, like, since 2019. But not even attempted. They got Patrick Kane. Yeah. But that wasn't, you know, I don't know. I think it is, um, elder millennial.

AI, AI overview says, Steve Y hired April 19th, 2019, role, executive vice president and general manager. Context. He is currently working on rebuilding the franchise into a contender. And I'm like, is he? Has he been doing that for a while, eh? Yeah. The, I agree with you, dude.

And I fear they're going to do nothing. And the last thing I had of, of, they, they can't. Watch me. Watch them. Watch this. No, I'm serious. I'm telling you. I know Steve Y.

watches this show. Yeah. I'm telling you right now, dude. Make a trade. You can't do nothing. They're doing nothing. You can't do nothing. They're doing nothing.

That would be insane if the Detroit Red Wings do nothing. And I am, I'm weeping right now for my fellow Red Wings fans. Because this is the year that's like absolutely not. You can't do nothing. You can't stand Pat. Who would they, if the playoffs started right now, who would they play? Would it be a buffalo? They would play the Buffalo Sabres on the road.

That would. That could go either way. Would literally kill me. Yep. I cannot have that happen. It's almost certainly happening. If the Detroit Red Wings and Buffalo Sabers play in the playoffs, my soul will leave my body. Really?

Those are my two favorite teams that are not my favorite team. And I would die. I would literally die. Another one of those first round might be better than the rest. Yeah. Someone's got to win that, though. That's the good news. That means Detroit or Buffalo is getting to the second round.

We are on a crash course for that, aren't we? Yeah, we are. Yeah. Hey, there's a lot of hockey left this month. I need, no, no, no, no, no. We just need someone, Montreal or Boston to just jump Detroit or Buffalo and just swap that out. Yep. I can't have that.

The last thing I had, because everything else we've already said on the way, is I think, and I don't want this, but I think that the kings do absolutely nothing. But that's okay. They already got Panarin. I know, but they, very unluckily. were dead, got Panarin, lost Kev, have had a couple other injuries, and I'm like, Oh, Cozmancoe, just had a surgery.

Now I'm like, you're still dead. If you believed you were dead before, you're still dead now. And the fans with Kopi's last year and all this stuff are being like, oh my God, Rob Thomas, do something huge. And I fear that Ken Holland is looking at this team and going, we are too dead to justify giving up so much. Which, frankly, I think is smart. Okay.

And I understand if fans will riot because they're going to go, did you seriously miss playoffs in Cope's last year? And if I'm Ken Holland, I go, I'm the general manager of this team, dude, do I want us to get in playoffs? Yes. But I am not about to make a rash trade mortgaging our future, which is the most important thing in the world now with how, with Dewey's age and Cope retiring. Like, you can't be like this. We're selling it all for one more year. It's like, that is not the move. So that's my last thing.

All right. Stay tuned. We might get more breaking news this episode. We might get more breaking news this episode in which we will jump in and discuss it. And also we might go live on Friday. Yeah, yeah. There's going to be some kind of, there's going to be something on Friday. There'll be coverage on trade deadline day.

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and we made you go grab the metal. You just flash the metal real quick. Let me just get it out of the case. Here it is. Were you as shocked as we were how fucking heavy that thing is? No, it's heavy. And the thing is, is Meg Keller actually just went on SNL, and they had to backstage sew this because it's so heavy.

And like this part, like it broke. It just broke off. And they had to sew it backstage. I believe it. I mean, the thing's, it's thick. I can't believe it. It gives you. like a forward lean, you know?

Like, you put that thing on your neck too long. Like we, some of my teammates and I talked about it. We're like, God, we need massages. Like, the front of our necks are so sore. God, at all time flex. What a problem to have. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Hey, where are you? I know it's in the case, but like, where is it in the house as of right now? This is the case. I have a memorabilia box. So it has like twins first pitch and my first PWHL jersey and like all this fun stuff. Is it like a box that's hidden away? Like, I feel like you need a shrine. Yeah, you know, Costco has these big, like, buckets.

And I just put everything in there. It's like a time capsule. Yeah, it is. And it's huge. It's got like this yellow top on it. At least that's like the house fire box, right? You know, like you've got to grab one thing and you're like, okay, at least I know it's in the fucking Costco box. Yeah.

And I make sure to label it because like, say shit, where to go down. I needed to grab that one. Oh, God. That's a funny thing to explain to the family. Like, did you get any of like the childhood or family memorabilia? No, but I do have my... My memorabilia box. I do need to buy a safe.

That's on my list of things I need to figure out. Yeah, that's probably smart. Probably smart. Well, listen, it's been a bit, a little bit, about a week or so since everything went down. Has the high worn off at all, or are you still just buzzing? You know, we took a tough L to Montreal the other day. I literally feel like I haven't been home.

I was telling Parker this. I'm like, my body just... feel like I don't really know where I'm at. And and when we go to like Eastern time, like, you got to be taking the melatonin because my body's thoroughly thrown off. I was in like five different time zones. And, um, but yeah, it's, it's amazing. Obviously, like, there's been a a lot of outreach and people reaching out and, you know, I'm still kind of sifting through certain things. But like, it's just the experience in the lifetime. And it's, everyone, everyone talks about it, the like post-Olympic, like sadness, regardless of you win or lose. Like, it's real.

Like, that group that was there with me, like, was dynamic. And I was texting Hillary this morning and she's like, this group is like so special. And to only have that amount of time together, it's so hard. And you go back and you play against them and it's like, shoot. Like it just, it's hard. Well, you know something I think is so fascinating about your group is, you know, everyone goes and plays in these games. It's absolute best on best.

It's the most electric thing of all time. And you're so right. Obviously, it's way different for us. But like, I'm waking up at 5 a.m. every morning. My internal clock is so fucked up. I can imagine you. But it's so cool about your group that you don't just go back to one league together. It's like we've got, you know, KK and Laylor are going back to college.

You're back to Minnesota. You're playing Montreal like two days later. There are so many different spots where you're all going. I feel like that adds to the craziness of this experience. It does because I saw scams. She's the only one on Montreal from the U.S. and she was the first, we were both first ones in line after we had lost, but I gave her a hug and I'm like, good to see you, buddy. Like, it feels like it's been a while. But yeah, we all text together and I think Game Threads is a brand that is sending me like 25 shirts.

And it's the Megan Keller shirt. And I'm so excited because I'm, well, I literally feel like I'm going to see everyone like once every five days because we're going somewhere. We're never home a weekend in March. So I'm gone the next three weekends. but I'm going to bring those to everyone and we're going to hopefully wear them. But yeah, it's an honor and it's definitely a weird situation, especially the ones in college. Like I can't imagine going from the Olympics back to college. Honestly, highs, imagine going to class. Like, I would be like, are you fucking kidding me? No chance.

No, no. The good thing is a lot of them are like not fifth year, but either fifth year or like school is not necessarily they're thankful to me. They're taking basket weaving and ballroom. Yeah. Their major's hockey. I don't know if you know, but Abby Murphy put that on her room, her dorm room door when she was in freshman year and grace loves to tell the story. Like, it says Abby Murphy major hockey.

Yeah. And that's kind of how I see it. Yeah, that's good for her. Is it weird? Obviously, you were all friends before and you've played in tournaments before. But is it weirder just a tiny bit playing against each other now after this experience together? Yes, I would agree.

I even think it was more weird prior to us leaving because the last thing I'm doing is making a play that's not going to end up good for either one of us if it's a U.S. teammate. And you never want to talk about that publicly. But like, if I see Hillary, God forbid, I'm putting a bubble around her. Like, I'm going to do what I need to do to get the puck back, but I'm not going to do anything weird. I honestly think it was weird or prior because now it's like, I'm not going to go out there and hurt someone. That's never my game. but like you can play now more free knowing that your buddies got to live out their dream with you and you didn't no one took that away.

God, that was the anxiety. Right before, yeah. The anxiety of that playing in the PWHL, college is college. Like, you know, there's some physicality there, but the PWHL, like, the rules are skewed sometimes and they're not always going to be in your favor. And we had, I think one of our check players on our team, like, just took a nasty hit in our last game and, like, didn't come back. And all of us were like, whoa.

Yeah. that could happen to anyone. And I remember like praying every night, like, please keep me safe. Like, I need to be there. So it's crazy. No, that's such a real thing. We always think about that because it's, you know, everyone always tells you when you're an elite athlete. It's like, don't change the way you play for fear of getting injured. That's how you get injured. Correct. But it's, it must be so hard not to do that because it's like, sorry, this is the most important thing in the the world to me right now. Yeah. 100%. And it's like, you've got to figure out, like, be where your feet are. And like, I was with the frost. I want to be with the frost in playing at my best. But also it's,

I would say it's kind of the IQ of maybe don't go 500 miles an hour into the corner if someone's on your back, or maybe don't try to put yourself in a bad situation or, you know, don't try to get near the goalie. Like, someone's going to push you, like, just things like that where it's not me not putting my best foot forward for the frost. It's me putting my best foot forward for the group. And, you know, you're going to have people out there. They're going to back you up regardless, but it's just being smart. And that's what my parents said. They're like, don't try to like not be you out there, but like be smart. Like put your brain to work and do what you need to do. Yeah, for sure. But listen, before we get into the ins and outs of the tournament, because it was so unbelievable,

I know you don't love gassing yourself up. That's what we're for. So, you know, throughout your career, obviously, so many things. You win the Patty Kaz. You go in, you're back-to-back Walter Cup champs. But this moment, I know, has been on your mind for years. Years and years and year. Forever. Yeah. Yeah. How monumental did it feel, even before winning and then, of course, after winning, did it really feel bigger than everything, as you know, you kind of always expected?

Yeah, I think my number one goal for the Olympics was to come in with no expectations. I didn't expect there to be single beds. That's okay. We figured our way through that. I didn't know what to expect dining hall-wise. I came in with no expectations and no complaints. I just wanted to live through the experience. I have a journal.

I'm still like on my last day, I took little Polaroids, and I'm, like, writing down my experience. And just so I can have it and obviously not forget. I'm like a picture and a video girl forever. I just feel like that's how I learn best. And, you know, the experience it was is an experience of a lifetime. And to say that I wouldn't get another game that crazily important in the Olympic gold medal final for four more years is, like, crazy. And to think I was where it was four years ago, I think that's the most of, important part to point out is where I was four years ago and where I am now.

Without the gold medal or anything, like just the experiences that I've had and me being able to like pick myself up out of the gutter in 2022 and find a way to figure out to get here in 26 is pretty incredible. And obviously I don't tend to give myself props too much when it comes to media stuff. But just proud of like the way that I was able to kind of like lift myself up and figure out a way because at the end of the day, not everything's going to go your way. And you just have to figure out a way to keep digging. And my support system's huge. Like, I, without the frost, and without my teammates on the frost, like pushing me every day, like a seven-month season when you're getting hit every three seconds of the game is really hard. And there's injuries and there's

different things. But like the Olympic experience, like, I would be remiss to not talk about, like, the frost and how they've helped push me forward because I wouldn't, like, not having a league would not have led me to where I'm at. Like, like, yeah. I just don't think that training by yourself and doing those things would have benefited me at all or going overseas. Like, this is where I needed to be. And God obviously made it a preference for me to be able to join the league essentially right out of college. But the Olympic experience was so good. And I think just trying to reminisce on my past four years, like it feels like 10 years, honestly.

It's felt like a long time. It's been like I think about, you know, the first time you came on the show and just the way you talked about that 2022 experience. And just to see you here. It's like, you know, as people who love you. It's like very emotional for us. I can't imagine. Like that four years. Genuine.

Crazy. I just feel like a lifetime. Holy shit. There was just so much like winning, I think two world championships, losing two, winning an MVP, winning Patty Kaz, you know, thinking we were going to be completely out of the playoffs, both years with the frost, coming back, like, figuring it out, having people hate our team for God knows what reason. Like, just having all these.

crazy things, buying a house, getting engaged. Like, it, I feel like I was 15 last time I talked to you guys. And I remember where I was, because I remember the videos in a apartment I had downtown, like, which feels like forever ago. Yeah. But it's so cool to reminisce on like what brought me here. And only my people can understand, like, what I did, it had nothing to do with what I did in public.

It had all to do with what I did in private and all the skills sessions. And, you know, Grace and I getting up at 6 a.m. and going to the two skates a day that people think we're crazy for if we're doing, but it makes us, like, who we are. And it doesn't, it helps you to become, like, a better person, too. Like, I, I didn't just, you know, show up to the Olympics and hope for the best. I had already prepared to be there. And at the end of the day, I remember thinking when we were down zero to one, I'm like, someone's going to do it. I just, like, hope someone does it soon. Like, I hope someone does it really soon. And I'm okay with it being me, and I'm totally okay with it being someone else. Like, couldn't care less.

And I think that's another mentality change is 2020. It was. It was me against the world because I felt like people didn't believe in me and all that. And now I just feel like we had the country on her back and I didn't care who did it. And that's the coolest thing about the whole thing is like the U.S. was just like so behind us and everything. Yes. It was Taylor. The, the, um, after you want, because you're so right. Like I'm jumping ahead, but you're so right because the journey for you was so awesome.

I was taking so many like 15 X zoom in pictures of you after that someone behind us goes, are you family? And I was like, oh, no. I just, just really happy. for. They were like, Jesus Christ, dude. It was such a lovely, like, the person came up, like, put her hands on both of our shoulders and was like, that's, that must

be your sister. And you're like, yep, that is my sister. Am I right. It's a real problem. When I do need to know, what was the best thing in the dining hall? The lava cakes. Like, no good. No doubt. They were so good. And like, I had mentioned on

a TikTok, I'm like, these are just like chilies. And I grew up on a Chili's Lava cake. Like, we would go to Rochester as a family. And I'd be like, God, can we go to Chili's or like Red Lobster? Like the worst stuff now. Like you think about it and you're like, yuck. Yeah. But I remember when we had won and then the men won and we came back after closing

ceremonies. And it's just Connor Hellibuck in his chair with his arms up with 25 lava cakes, maybe 30. Like just sitting on the table waiting for his buddies to show up. And I remember, I think it was like Murph goes, hey, are those all for you? And he goes, no. Take them. take as many as you want. Yeah, yeah.

And he goes, you guys deserve it too. So we sat there and we were like, hanging out with them. But yeah, I remember. What an epic behind the scenes moment that is. I know. Two gold medal winners. I asked them.

I remember I asked like Brady. I think I was like, dude, like, where are you guys getting these? Like, we, I traded a pin for one. This is bogus. You guys just have 50 on the table. And he goes, yeah, we paid some guy. Like, he's on her back now.

And I go, okay, that makes me feel better. I love two things. The fact that in the, in the calf at the Olympics. There's like prison trading systems going on for food. Also, I love the idea of you going up to this like Italian pastry chef and being like, man, these are just like chilies. We got to figure it out.

Yeah. And I remember his name was Simone and he brought us like me and Gwen Phillips. Gwen Phillips does this, one of our goalies does this like food review. And she knows, Simone, I really need one of these. And I'm like, okay, Gwen, tell him, if we win, we can get as many as we want. So he promised us if we won, he would fill the table full if we wanted to. And we were never all in the calf together. Like we were all on different schedules.

But he finally brought it over. And she goes, that's good. Just slams the table with their fist. There's no better review. That's incredible. Yeah. That's five stars. And he was like, yes.

I love how all the goalies have their food. Like Aaron's got her chicken cheese salad wraps. Gwen's doing food reviews too. This is a thing. Yeah. We want to start a show for these gals. I know. And they're so unique in it too.

And people didn't know about the Caesar salad, obviously. but like everyone on our team knows and we'd get one and when they're catered in they're obviously not as good they're not as fresh and everyone goes up to Aaron Aaron how was it like what was your rating and she's probably like oh my gosh like I do this every day yeah she's like I open this can't believe this is my life now correct she's the sweetest and so is Gwen we love them both and Ava too Ava's just more into she's a very very studious student and is like so incredibly smart you would see her in the Coca-Cola lounge like Every day for about five hours, typing away, doing her notes, doing all that stuff.

Like, every day, like, it was crazy. That is so awesome. They are incredible. At the Olympics could still be dialed in. Murph goes, guess how many times I've opened my computer? I go, five. And she goes, once. Yeah, good for her.

Good for her. And Eva's like, I've opened my computer three times today. That's incredible. Okay, so I have so many questions about the gold medal game, but I do want to go back at first. and I kind of have a two for one, which is you mentioned earlier that Hillary said it was such a special group. Obviously, you guys had the most dominant run

ever in Olympics. So I'm curious if you knew right away how special the group was and maybe that happened as you were moving through the group stage. And then the second part my question is certainly you must have felt that way after the first Canada prelim game. So kind of talking to the emotions

there. Yeah. Yeah. So we started training with, we have this whole quad. We called the the past four years, we've been, you know, dealing with, you know, finding the right puzzle pieces and who's going to fit that spot and, you know, who I'm going to play with and who Hillary's going to play with. Like, there was just a lot of question marks and, you know, you never know who's going to be healthy. You never know who your coach is going to pick because obviously you're not the one making the team. And we started this process, like, really narrowing it down in August.

We did two weeks on in August. Then we went September a week, November a week, and played Canada, like, a few times. And, like, you could just tell from those games how special the group was. Like we had so much fun and winning is fun. Don't get me wrong. If we would have lost, we still would have came out on top and figured it out. But like, we were dominating. And I just think like you got to give props to our coach, Robo. Like he integrated those youth. Like, and me included, and I've said it to him 50 times. Like, I'm just grateful to be here because I didn't get that opportunity last time. And he goes, Taylor, I'm sick of hearing it. Like, you've done enough now.

Like, you're good. But like our youth and not to, I think there was not even enough put on youth, but there wasn't enough put on the vets. Like, we don't win games without them. Like, with us, we're like, we get down by two and we're like, ooh, we haven't felt this before. Like, how do you get past that? And, you know, August and November and December comes around and I remember, I keep track of all the PWHL games. I keep track of all the college games. I want to make sure my girls are doing well. And, you know, Murph getting the goal record now. Like, I'm texting everyone just to make sure everyone's good. And obviously, our captains and everyone's doing the same as well. And you could have everyone was having really good years. Like the PDA was good.

you know, my team felt really good. Like our girls were all like top points and, you know, feeling good. And then we get into those first games. And I remember the first like five minutes, I was like, whoa, of the first game. I think we played a check. And Robo comes in after the first period and goes, who was nervous out there? Every young player raises their hand. And he goes, you, you, you, you guys just killed it out there.

Put your hands down. Like, counted every single person and said, put your hand down. Like, we've been here before. We've done it. the confidence he had in our group and the confidence we had, I remember we were just steamrolling, like, certain groups and certain, like, periods of the games. And once we got to that Canada game and, like, things got really serious, like, we were just like, there's no one that can stop us if we're at this,

we're at this, like, pinnacle that we're at right now. And then, of course, our coach comes in and it's like, okay, you think you're at the pinnacle, but how lonely is it up there? Like, you know how many people die on Mount Everest? What's the highest percentage? And Gwyneth is a hiker. She goes, I feel like at the top. And he goes, no, on the way down.

So then we talk about Mount Everest and how, you know, on the way down, it doesn't mean you're getting less good. It just means you're getting smarter on the way down so you can understand, like, things in that sort. And I remember he's like, you know, we're at the top. It's lonely up there. And it sucks sometimes. But this is the time where it's awesome.

Like, this is where you like find that moment and just freaking roll right through it. And after that Canada game, I think we had that, like, thought as in, I don't care who we play. it doesn't matter. Like, if we go out and play that way, like, there's just not a chance. There's not a chance. Yeah.

What was the five goal rule with the team? I don't know. Every time on the bench, like someone misses a wide open net. Someone misses this. And we're like, do people want to keep it at five? Like, are we just trying to be like the rule of fives? Yeah.

But I don't know. Like, it was just, it was like a stopper. And then we got past it. I think maybe it was six one check or something. One of the games was six. And we were all like, man. if we can keep this five thing up like this is going to be pretty cool the goals against two i'm like oh my gosh this percentage is crazy truly insane but so we we talked about this a lot with with you know

anytime people are in the playoffs in a tournament like this you guys seemed like such a focused and dialed in group even with all the youth the youth that you just mentioned but is there a part of you and i want to even just go to the semis because the sweden team was so good yeah when you you're just rolling through your competition, is there a part of you that's thinking like, shit, I wish we had had a little bit more adversity at some point in here because you never know when one of these games is going to punch us in the mouth. Or were you just focused being like, nope, just, you know, every game's a new game. Don't think about the past. Goldfish memory. Let's just go into the next one. Yeah, it's a great question. I think I got asked probably 57 times from other

news sources from other countries. Like, wouldn't you want a better game? And I'm like, you know what? asked me 365 days of every single other year that I've ever had. And sure, I'll say, yeah, this is the Olympics. And this is what I've worked for for four years. I don't care if we blow people out 100 zero. Like, this is what we want to win. We want to do that. And I get, yes, I agree with your question, but I think we did find those adversity points in every single game. I don't know if it was, you know, in check, we were like, oh, like, that was the first goal that went in and we were like, oh, shoot, like, we want to do this for Aaron. We want to do it for Gwen. We want to do it for but there's just so many points in those games where we had to get together and be like, guys,

we got to figure this out. Like, start using the yellow, you know, Ardini to get shots through. But I also think that group, like, all of us have been through adversity. And if it were to hit, no, everyone's not going to crumble. You can have a few people that, you know, are teetering on the nervous end of the spectrum, but we have so many rock, solid foundation blocks that, like, aren't going to care. Hillary's had five Olympics. Like, she's lost enough to know what you have to do to win. Yeah. Carpe's the same. Meg's the same. Kelly, Lee, Kendall, like, they're unbreakable. Like, we get in the locker room in overtime. Hillary walks in, sits down and she goes, guys, this is our time. I don't care

who does it. I don't care when. It can be an hour from now. It can be five minutes from now. Someone's got to do it. Like, you have, someone has to. And of course, she had just done it for us to get there. And it's not her saying, like, I can't keep doing it. It's, it's, you can't put it all on me. That's her saying, everyone in this room is capable, and we've seen it 10 million times. Like, hell yeah. She's like, you've scored on her here. You've scored on her here.

Like, this is how we're going to do it. But someone has to have the courage to jump out of a block just like Meg did. And I think that that sentence from Hillary, not to say Meg wouldn't do that, but like, the confidence you have in your group is so crazy to say that a D is going to end up on the blue line. And I'm ending up on the goal line. Yeah, yeah. Like there's, it's just, it's a weird scenario. But we had so much confidence in the group.

It was, it was crazy. because I've never had a team that's special and I don't want that to come off as bad or me not being grateful for the groups I've had but it's just so crazy it's the best of the best and it's so crazy to be there

because I wish I could relive that and play every game like that speaking of Hillary holy shit what a badass did you know she was hurt like that oh my God yeah we have a few people I don't know if you've seen the LTIR reports or anything from the PDAB

but we definitely had a few injuries God, man. And one of the hardest things is we wanted her to be opening ceremony flag bearer. And when she didn't, we're like, okay, closing. Like, that's what we're doing. And we were like, Hillary, you got to keep doing rehab so you're not out there limping around. Like, we really need you to lead our group with that flag proudly and not be limping around.

And she was dying because she ended up proposing too. And she goes, guys, not only did I propose over a grate, but I couldn't kneel on the ground. Like, I was halfway. I was stuck. I was stuck. So she's a badass and we love her. And I think everyone that played through an injury, it's such a hard thing. And to not be scared to make it worse, people just went out there and sold their soul pretty much to like help our team went.

And like that's just what you would do for everyone. Well, you talk adversity points high. That first period of the final, I thought they came out flying. Oh, for sure. We had seen the prelim game and we'd get to the final and I was like, holy fuck. So I'm curious what the. chatter was in that first intermission even because it was still zero zero out of line yeah yeah what was the chatter like in that first intermission like holy shit they're they're not rolling over like they did

earlier yeah like robo for example came in and he's like guys we know exactly what's going to happen they're going to give us 20 really good minutes and they're going to lay it all on the out all on the line for those 20 minutes because they know that if they can get up yeah they can try to figure out a way to stay there and for us we're like we got to weather those 20 minutes and understandably, they're going to give their best, and we didn't. Like, in those 20 minutes, we didn't, and they did. And usually that ends up with a lopsided score come the end of the 20 minutes. But thank God, we have fantastic goaltending, and Aaron stood on our head.

But, you know, we got it after the first period, and I remember thinking, like, oh, shit. Like, this is real. Like, this isn't some throwaway game in Rochester. Like, this is, this is, like, the pinnacle of what I've always wanted. And in my head, I'm like, okay, you can see. sit here and think, oh, no, we might not do this. Or you can think, like, what am I going to figure out? What am I going to do better to help my teammates roll? And, you know, that's me talking to Bilk and that's me talking to Murf. That's me saying, like, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, like,

when we play well, like, our team plays well. Like, when our line is rolling and we're out there, like, steamrolling people and doing all that stuff, like, I think the second period was a major turn for us. And our coach came in, and everyone in the locker room was like, guys, calm down. Like, I remember Layla and KK were, like, looking a little bit like this. And Hillary went over and put her hands on their shoulders and was like, guys, like, we're okay. Like, this is not anything different. You guys have won national titles and done all this. And just try to, like, take what that felt like when you were there and just, like, exemplify it out there.

And I think our leaders were just so great. And obviously, on the bench, Hillary's like, all right, guys, like, it's time to go. Like, it's not time to sit back and wait for someone to do it. It's like your time. So someone needs to figure it out. And it wasn't like a yelling. It was more of just like, all right, let's make a statement. put a period on the end of the sentence out there that we are the best team here

because us being the best team in the tournament doesn't matter unless we win this game Yeah So the shorty it sounds like because I do agree the second period halfway through the ice tilted And I was like okay the girls are all over them They score the shorty sounds like no real panic though Even though it was the first time you've been down or was there a little bit like Jesus fucking Christ Yeah I you know obviously like it's a play that we weren't proud of and like that's just getting scored on the power play is like one of the worst things that you can do.

And, you know, in the P-Dub, I think of like the jailbreak rule where, you know, you get that person not only gets to come out of the box. But you just got scored on. And, you know, in that moment, we're like, all right, like, it's 1-0. It's not 2-0. It's not 3-0. It's not 4-0. Aaron does not let in more than that.

Like, that's just how it is with us. And if we can come back and find a way, and we're like, someone has to score a goal to win the game. Like, it's going to be 1-0 or it's going to be 2-1 or whatever. it ends up being like someone has to score to win so like let's go out there and just figure it out and it just kind of gave us that like kick in the butt like oh okay time to go like this isn't funny anymore right yes correct okay so that was kind of my next question where as confident as you are and how the messaging is perfect like stay the course we're playing great we're playing great yeah man that clock starts to go fast in the third you know as as good as you're playing you're

like a holy shit so as what was the kind of thought like as we got to pull the goalie time where you're like, okay, now we're fucking never. So this is the craziest thing I've ever heard, and I learned this after the game. I'm dialed in the fact that the goalies pulled. Yeah. Our center, carpey, and our wang tessa had no idea. Are you shitting me? Swear to God.

Swear to God. Like, I, and I'm not throwing them under the bus, because still they still played, and like carp wins that face off. That's huge. Tessa doesn't throw the puck away in the corner. And I think they ended up grasping that, like, when we were, like, more in, like, a box situation. But like off the draw, there wasn't enough time. Like we didn't have a time. Like we didn't spend enough time. I go to Rovoy. That was after the air and injury, right? Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Because I kind of

missed it too for a second because she was down so long. Yeah, yeah. Okay, go on. That was crazy. And then like, I remember I asked Robo, I'm like, where am I going to be? Like, you had me written over here, but like, where? And he goes, just find a spot. And I'm like, okay. That's like a type person's like nightmare. Yeah. And we win the drawback. And I remember like Hillary and and Lela like those are just two people you want out there and I was just happy to be out there and I was like if the puck's in the corner I'm getting it and I remember it wins back with whatever it goes to

whatever me Keller around to Tessa and back up and I remember there's a picture of me like staring at the net and I like I see Layla shooting and I'm just waiting I'm like if this comes off like I'm getting it like I know it and then it didn't have to because it already went in and I remember there's a picture of like Bilka and me and like we're just flying high

like I remember I jumped so high and at that point I knew it. I'm like, I believe, like, that we, at that point, everyone knew we were going to win. But, like, you look at, like, a back check that Murph had or, like, a really good save that Aaron had. Like, those things, if those don't happen, we lose. For sure. I mean, I'm so glad you mentioned that back check. That was the most insane. And she's the fastest, like, we're on the, I think we were in the locker room. And Robo goes, who's going to beat you, KK? Like, who's going to be, who's faster than you?

And she's not going to say no one. She goes, Murph. And he goes, No, but close. She's right behind you. No one else is beating you to that puck. Skate and go. And then he goes to Murph, who's beating you? And Murph goes, well, KK. And he goes, not when you're at your fastest.

When you're at your fastest, no one's beating you. And I remember after the overtime, like, I went up to turn. I'm like, dude, like, that's why you do what you do. Like, it's putting two forwards out there. It's hard sometimes because you want people to score and it's really hard to, like, I got stuck out there one time and I got picked and had like fallen down a little bit. I remember on that back check in your head, you're just like, you're the McDavid and McCars. You're just hoping it doesn't end up like that for you and that you're not in the background

of this drone shot where you're not even moving your feet and the puck's already in the net. Like it's a nightmare for like hockey players. Like that's a nightmare. 100%. Listen, we just talked about Captain America, Hillary getting that goal. But then I have to ask about overtime because obviously three on three overtime was a shift for all of you. Yeah. And I know you practiced it a ton.

But all of a sudden when you're. in it in the gold medal game, was there a part of you that was like, this is fucking crazy? Like, we haven't played this enough. This is, we are all over the place because it was for us, most entertaining thing in the entire world. Because it was truly, I feel like there wasn't the regrouping that we see in the NHL. Yeah. It was just like this.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I think in the moment, that's how I knew it was going to be. You don't run out of energy in a game like that. Like, you just don't. And when coach was saying the pairings, um, So special Tessa looks at me.

And she goes, are we going to do it again? And I'm like, why not? Yeah, let's do it. It was us out there again. And I'm like, why would we not? And like that confidence that she had, like, you can just tell, like, someone saying that to me and be like, okay, she believes in the fact that I can go out there and do it or that I can make a play and do something like that.

And like the pairings, I was just so confident in everything that we had. And anyone that wasn't in a pairing, like they were so pumped. It's like Brady Kachuk talking about. He's like, all right, we knew we weren't going to go. And I was just gassing the boys up. Like, we're going to do this. We're putting money on who's scoring. I didn't ask if anyone did that.

But, yeah, like, three-on-three is so hard, and it's made for the fans. It really is. But in 2018, there was a shootout. And I think that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. And thank God that's out of it, because that's the dumbest. That's so dumb. Ever. I can't believe it.

And anyone that played in that game, I actually would have, like, not been okay. Like, that's not. That's not anyone's dream. No one wants to end that way. And as a goalie, that's also nightmare fuel. Like, that's like, not good. But yeah, we got in that overtime and we were going back and forth. And everyone on the bench is like, man on man.

Like, that's all you need to know. You stick with your one person. As long as you don't get beat, you keep them in front of you. Like, you're going to be okay. But the second they get behind you, you better hintill back there and find them. Yeah. So true. Talk us through the stretch pass.

Yeah. Did you see her, Meg? Or was she screaming? Or yeah, what happened? I remember, like, I'm never going to just throw the puck away, and I feel like in 3-on-3, that's the goal. Like, you want to possess. And that's just what our coach has always said. And in the PWHL, I love doing it too.

And I remember, like, I had brought the puck out, I think. And I remember seeing poo. And I'm like, okay, she's just got fresh off the bench. She's going to end me on this side of the net. And I remember they had already changed. And Meg was, Meg said one, I remember she, like, yelled a little bit. But I can see her in my peripheral. So I'm, like, looking at it.

okay, this pass has to be hard enough, so it doesn't get picked if someone comes off the bench. And two, I want to give her an angle to be able to go. So I ended up putting it on her tape where she could just turn and go. But I remember thinking, like, I'm going to turn this puck over and Poo's going to take it. And I can't, I can't have that happen. So I go, I'm just going to send it up the wall. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I remember watching it back, like, I didn't quite see how close Poo was. Like, Poo's stick was like this far away from the puck. Like, if I didn't like really send it, it could have been bad. But like I'm proud of those moments for everyone because like Meg looks like if anyone hadn't watched hockey before, they're like, yeah, she's a forward.

She's a wing. Like she's, she plays forward. Yep. And she doesn't. It's so insane that you said earlier that you two are roll reversed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But I'm so proud of her because like that, you don't make that play. You don't make that play in a game like that. Like she and even if she misses that, like it doesn't matter. Like you already have them on the ropes and you're going to find a way to. to get something else, but that's the confidence that our team instilled in in everyone. And I think that just says it. Like when it went, did you see it go in? Nope.

I didn't see it until after the game. And I'm like looking at the coaches on the bench. I'm like, does someone have the replay? Like, I need to see the goal. Like I don't know. I'm like, did I even make a good pass? Did she like have to transition? Like, I don't know.

Because you know what you know in that is if you're tired, you just high tail it to the bench. Yes. And you maybe look around once or twice, but you just have your head down and you just skate as fast as you can. And I remember Murph was changing for me and I skated so hard to the bench and all of a sudden I see this from people on the bench and I turn my head and Meg's like ripping around the corner

and already has their gloves off. Holy shit. And I'm like guys and I remember sitting in the line waiting for our medals and like guys what happened? I'm like Kendall what happened? Like did she just snip? Like what happened? They're like well she went forehand and backhand and then like I don't like I don't know. Yeah. And I'm like what had to been good? Like

scored. And then I see it and I remember talking to the media, I'm like, it was 15 times better than I could have thought. Like I didn't dream that up. It was, I mean, we've talked about so many times as, as Americans and as fans, getting double gold from the women's and men's both in overtime is insane. And Meg's scoring a goal that way, that's street hockey shit. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Verbaly announcing to yourself these made up hypotheticals to gas yourself up, that literally happened in that game. It was unbelievable. 100%. It's weird. Like it, you probably ask her now and she would never talk like this about herself, but like she is such a skilled player. I've seen her due coming across five whole.

Like even on Frankel, like she, she has those forward skills. She's shifty. She's playing 30 minutes a game in the PWHL and still making a huge impact. You can have people out there playing 30 minutes and you're just like, all right, they're just defensive. Like she is up in the play. I hate playing against her like against Boston I'm like guys wings just peanut bar and jelly like find her and stay there like I don't care we will find everything else down low like you just can't leave her alone yeah and then you had haley win into it it's like well now it's a three on three down low you just need to stay with them but she's unbelievable and I'm so happy for her because I think she deserves the world and like a moment like this she was made for that and and I think she deserved it yes

absolutely uh was there was there uh we were talking earlier was there anything um the coaching staff may have done superstition-wise that could have added to the win there tonight. Yeah, 100%. Hold on, hold on. So I do have to say, we talked about this and let us make it clear at the top that you would never do something like this. No, I would never. But we saw you after the win go to one of your coaches and say something about a blowout. And we were like, did Taylor just say that she thought this was going to be a blowout?

We couldn't have been more wrong. No. Tell everyone what was going on with the blowout. the bench. No. So Milan fashion capital of the world, you can get a blowout in the corner of Milan on your hair for like 20 bucks. And Ellen Hughes, Jack and Quinn's mom, somehow found one on the side of the street that she really loved. She came to practice and of course I'm the one that notices. I'm, I give myself blowouts here and there. And I go, Ellen, I'm gassing her up in the locker. I'm like, Ellen, girl, like, what are you doing with your hair? It looks so good. And she's like, guys, I got a $20 blowout

on the street. And I'm like, hmm, okay. And then some of our other coaches are like starting to get into it. She's done it three times now. And now, Katie Miller and our GM, Ali Altman, our goalie Coleman, our forward coach, and Ellen all go before the gold medal game. And I'm like, okay, this is great vibes. And I turn

back to them on the bench and like they got their hair looks fresh and whatever. And this is in a top knot. It looks terrible. And I look and I go to Ali, I go, must have been the blowouts. Must have been. Must have been. Must have been. And Ellen goes, oh, gosh, I need to go get another one before I leave. Yeah.

I mean, like there are things that you need. You're going through duty-free in the airport. You've got to get some olive oil, got to get some wine. You got to get a blowout too. You got to get a blow out. And two, I'm like a dicing girl through and through. I always use mine. Can't bring it to Europe.

So you can't. So there's nothing. I can't fucking believe you just said that. Alice came to Milan for a few days. And like the first thing she was saying to me was, I can't bring my dice in. So like, yeah. She went on a walk to find a store to find the next best thing. She could.

It's unbelievable. And Grace didn't have her Starbucks. And I said, Grace, this is equivalent to me not having my Dyson for 26 days. I didn't even care if I went to bed with what hair anymore. I was like, it doesn't matter. I don't even have my favorite tool here to do what I need to do. God, that is so awesome. Okay, just give us your favorite memory from the post game, either on the ice or after.

Because I remember talking to you a few days after because that game was, what, Thursday? I remember being like, hey, let's link up, you know, Friday or Saturday. we'll chop it up and you got you kept being like we're we're still hammered like we're still yeah there's too much going on so yeah what was some of your favorite moments i was not well for a bit but definitely my favorite moment one of them was i had the flag on on the ice and i remember looking at my 40 people that were in the stands and i could just see my mom zooming in she's got she's bawling my dad's got his camera the galaxy just zooming in you know it's bad quality like he's got it and like everyone there, my fiance Parker, his mom, like, all my mom's best friends, like, they're all

like crying, balling and I'm like, I did it. Like, we, like, that was one of my favorite moments. And then the other one after is we got to go to the Starbucks Winterhouse. And I remember Xfinity, um, was there. They're one of my Olympic sponsors. And, uh, they had like these little, like, signs. They were cardboard cutouts of me. And to this day, Ali Altman snuck one back home in her suitcase. She's been sending me pictures of me and different. Yeah. different areas and she did uh my shooting coach guy that i work with in the summer goes sent me a video when it was him opening his Tesla trunk and it's just me like a yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like a flat Stanley yeah super fun too it was flat Stanley like I've been getting pictures and

um got to drink some apparel sprits with my family and um the girls obviously we had a lot of fun like we found uh we were at a club with snoop dog performing french montana um amber glen alicealoo like we're all in the same section it was like ridiculous and i remember at three am Grace and I look at each other and we're like, I think it's time to go. And this is one of those clubs where they put like the sticker over your camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the real deal. And Hillary had gotten us in and of course we're like, holy cow, like, this is legit.

And I remember, I was like, I haven't, I don't remember the last time I was at a club. And like Hillary, Hillary's not a club person. Like, that's not who she is. And you can see her. She was just like excited. Everyone was having a good time. And that was definitely one of my favorite ones because then we get back at like three. And I remember I took.

a video of Murph running through the village. And I'm like, who would have thought we'd be running through the village at 3.30 in the morning with a corona in hand, sprinting around, like, jumping through the Olympic rings and just fun stuff like that. That is so sick. It's the best. Yeah. Well, Hise, we'll let you jump.

We've got to get you back on here again as the season unfolds. Absolutely. Can't tell you how proud we are of you and how psyched we are for you. This was just truly one of the greatest moments of all times. And we're just so pumped that you got to live through it. But like I said, we'll be dialing in for the rest of your season. Can't wait to chat with you more. But thanks so much for coming on.

You're the best. Thank you. I love being on here. So thanks for having me. Oh, yeah. That's awesome. Huge shout out to Taylor. Such a star, such an amazing person.

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That was four nations. Yep. And you're back in Canada now anyway. So we only do this when you're in Canada. But for the second time back and for the first time, an Olympic fucking gold medalist. Here, Barnes, welcome back to the Epitonautil podcast. I love so much that this is our, our California. California gal. That's the best part about it. Like a true Southern California native. That's what we need more of. Born and raised. Born and raised, baby. On the roller rinks, which is unbelievable. Yeah, so epic. We just asked Heisey this and we got to know, I mean, the fact that you're in Ottawa after a game, which we'll talk about in a second, because that was a monumental game in Seattle, has the high of the gold worn off at all yet, or are you just still out of your mind? Oh, I don't think it'll ever wear off.

I think it's, it's just always, like, I still wake up and I still see posts about it and, you know, new followers and this and that. And it's, it's crazy. Just the momentum we've gotten and how exciting it's been since we've gotten back. And like it feels like we've been back for a long time, but we really only been back for like five, six days. So it's crazy. Are you, have you, has your internal clock reset at all? Or are you like all over the place with sleep? Um, kind of all over the place. We, Seattle is nine-hour difference, so that was really hard to adjust to. And I finally start to kind of feel normal and then boom on the road again. So now we're time-changing again. And so a little bit off, but we're hanging in there. We do have to say, Chris, when you were gone for a second, we were chatting about it. It is unreal that this happens. Gold medal is won.

Kayla comes back, has to be on the ice immediately for a game. And sold-out barn breaks the attendance record for the, the P-dub and we're saying how awesome that is, but also like it's just going to get broken again because the momentum is through the roof right now. It's unreal. How crazy was that barn? No, it was insane. Like, I've never, I don't know, our fans are so awesome and they're so passionate and, um, you know, it looked, you looked out into the crowd and didn't seem like there was an empty seat, which was amazing for the P-dub, for, um, women's sports in general for women's hockey. And like I said, there's a couple big games coming up that for sure will probably

rival that record. And that's exciting. We want that record to keep getting broken. Yeah, it's a good thing. Of course. Yeah. Barnsey, what did you think of the, um, the two rinks in Milan? Like, because that was a unique experience too, just the vibe and the setting in there. What did you think of those? Yeah. I mean, it was kind of crazy like switching back and forth. And the first rink replayed out was literally a warehouse. which was a really, really unique experience with the lockroom set up and the walk to the rink. Oh, right. I didn't think about that. Yeah. Yeah. Like the loft rooms were kind of like these trailer looking things, which was really interesting. They did a good job with it.

I think like the best that they could do. And our equipment managers are awesome making it feel like home and stuff. But it was, it was definitely interesting. I definitely liked playing at the the bigger rink better. It just kind of felt more like real. But, you know, it was a good setup. at both and we got through it. It did feel like they, I mean, there was so much chatter about those rinks before the games. And at the end of the day, I'm like, all right, they pulled it together pretty well. And you're so right. The big rink did.

It had a uniquely Italian feel, though. You know, like it was an official rink, but I was like, this is an Olympic rink. You know, like this has clearly been whipped together. But it was cool. It had a vibe. I liked it. Yeah, it was, the atmosphere was great there. And I mean, especially at our, like, final game, at all our games really.

but our final game was the push and pull from the fans and, you know, is half Canadian, half American. It was just like such a fun atmosphere. And it felt like it was a big rink, but it felt pretty like intimate, which was really cool. So I really, it really enjoyed it. Yeah. Talk to us about the buildup to the games because obviously it's similar with the men's with the NHL and all of you with the P-dub.

There is that element of you're playing now with a bunch of people who you're playing against during the season. But there's the added element of you have the college gals coming and joining the team. Did you have a group chat going weeks and weeks before? How were you bonding and kind of getting ready for the trip before the games? Yeah. I mean, we really started our process in August. We had camps every month. We met every month as a team for camps and rivalry series and stuff like that. So we had a touch point every month, which was really good for our team. But also what I've explained to a lot of people is like this isn't just like one year. We've been building this team for four years and we've spent four years together and, um, you know, obviously some different pieces are in and out,

but for the most part, the core is the same. So we've been building this team for four years. And I think this year, you know, those touch points, um, were great and really helped, you know, solidify our team. But everybody went back to their markets. And the PDAO is so great for us. This is the first time we've had a professional league with, um, the Olympics. And, you know, we get to play night in and night out against best players in the world, which ultimately helps us, helps the Olympics, helps growth everywhere in other countries as well. And then obviously our college girls are awesome. They're all on high-level teams and breaking records and doing all these crazy things. So, you know, they had a good setup when they left as well. So I think we all had a good setup. And when we met,

it was, you know, all about Team USA. And it was we were really excited to be with each other. Yeah. It's so true. And you could feel it, right? Like, we could see the chemistry with your group from the first game. And obviously we were joking around with Taylor. It's like the five goal thing. I don't know what the hell was going on with you all. But it was like, you hit five goals and you were like, we're done. Save it for the next game. But obviously, I mean, I love to hear that. And I love the fans get to hear this, that this has been a really serious and significant building process for all of you. But when you're there and you're actually in the execution of it, wearing that jersey going out in the ice, knowing that you're in Italy, was it, you know,

a practice or was it that first game against Chequia that you were like, oh shit, this group is special? I think, I think right when we got there, like, you could just feel the vibe within our group. Everyone was so excited to be there. And we have a really special group in the fact that, like, everyone has specific roles and everyone embraces that role. And our leadership is so good that, you know, every person felt important and needed. And you could just really feel that in the group. And we were all so excited to be there and compete.

And we all had one goal in mind. And I think we were so hungry to win gold, especially. There's a handful of us that were there in 22 that obviously fell on the short end of the stick. And then, you know, throughout the quad, the world championships, you know, we've had wins and losses. So I think we were just really hungry to prove to the world, like who we are. We're here. We're here to stay. Yeah.

Damn right. Yeah. Barzzi, did you get greedy? And you got to be honest. Did you get greedy at all after the first Canada game when you were like, oh, okay, we're going to fucking roll? No. No, not for a second. Not for a second.

And I think that's a huge testament to our leadership. Honestly, you know, Hillary Knight, goat, absolute goat. Just like, like, Gary used of all time, been around the block five times at the L. And, you know, she knows a thing or two. And she does a really good job of keeping the pulse of the room and just like never too high, never too low, just as long as we stick to our game plan. Honestly, we really focused on us. We tried not to focus on other teams as much.

Like, as long as we stick to our game plan, the rest will do the work. And that was kind of our vision, our game plan going throughout the tournament. And always the next game was the most important one, you know, not just Canada or not just, you know, this game or that game is it was every. single game. So how much do you lean on people like Hillary and and Carpe and Megan in those moments? Like we talked about that that gold medal game was the only time you trailed in a game. The whole turn, how fucking crazy is that? But in those moments, when you are such a tight group, you've all played together, you've been building this. How important is that veteran leadership in those moments when

you need someone to step up in the locker room? Because it sounds like Hillary was just dialed and locked in that moment, keeping everyone focused. Yeah. I mean, And it's huge. You need people that have been in those situations. And at the end of the day, Hillary really believed in this group. And I think we all really believed in this group. But you could feel that in her approach and the way she spoke to us. And she just knows how to command a room.

And, you know, never for a second. Was there any doubt in her voice? You know, she was like, we got this. We're fine. Keep pressing. You know, we kind of knew, like, if we got one, like, we'd be all right. And it took us a bit longer than expected and, you know, longer than we probably wanted it to. But it all worked out in the end. So we lean on them a lot. And like I said, our leadership is so good. And those voices are so important to our group.

Yeah. Yeah. I meant to ask Taylor this. But I was curious if there was, because we're in New England guys, right? So Tom Brady NFL fans. And I remember hearing a story about like he's such a decorated NFL player. But when would you feel the most? most stress, the Super Bowl's, whatever. And he was like, no, it was that undefeated season because there was just so much added pressure of like, you've got to win now because you were fucking undefeated. And I was curious if you all felt that a little bit because of how dominant you were up until the final, you know, because it was almost like it would, you, Canada game should always be a toss-up essentially, but it, and that it got so crazy that it felt like if you didn't win now, it would be a disaster. Even us walking into the rink, the Canadian fans we were talking do we'll be like, oh, you know, the U.S. team, though, so good. It just felt like the whole

rank was like, oh, the U.S. girls are going to win. And I was like, this is going to be a fucking brutal game. And I was wondering if you felt any of that extra pressure just because how good you were. I mean, I think a little bit, yeah. I think we really start to take off in the rivalry series when we won those games by a pretty big margin. And then, you know, we beat them in the preliminary round pretty good at the Olympics. And, but I think our group does a really good job of never underestimating Canada. We have a lot of respect for the team in that room. And I'm not just saying this. Like, this is true. It's true. Like, we were like, you know, that team will come out and they'll give you everything they have. And it can be a toss-up.

You know, we could we could beat them, whatever it was, 10, 3 in the rivalry season. And they could come out and beat us the next night. It doesn't really matter. And I think that stems a lot from our leadership. They did a really good job of keeping us kind of grounded and, you know, understanding that like as much pressure as there there is like we just had to go out and play the way we can and like I said the rest will fall into place but I think definitely going into that game it was like kind of it was a little bit more stressful than the games leading up to that one so yeah yeah on that yeah I think it was actually funny uh was talking to domi and actually some of the other talking to Aaron Ambrose on team Canada about the rivalry between all of you and she actually mentioned how the P dub has has softened that rivalry a little bit in a sense. But you'd mentioned the rivalry series and I got to go to a couple games last year in L.A. And I was blown away how intense. I mean, these are exhibition games. And you ladies are trying to kill each other in those games. And it's so, so fun to watch and it's

electrifying. And in those moments, you get thinking as a fan, you're like, holy shit, I can't wait for Olympics. So in these games, with that respect that you said you have and with this rivalry, I was super curious watching them. The Sweden team was so good this year. And there was a part of me with the semi that was like, I hate, I kind of want this to be the final. It felt like you and Sweden were really the top teams. And obviously I know you have nothing but the utmost respect for that Sweden group. But because of how intense the rivalry and because of how much of a competitor I know you are, Is there a huge part of you that was like, no, we need U.S. Canada in the final? Oh, 100%.

I think 100%, 100% because, you know, because the rivalry is so big and it's so, like, it's so deep-rooted. Like, I feel like if it wasn't U.S. Canada, in some way, I don't want to say like it wouldn't feel like we, like, fully earned it. Like, it would just, like, I don't know. Like, it just, that's what we've all imagined. and, you know, I just think that to make it right in the world, it had to be U.S. Canada. Yeah. No, that makes sense. That makes sense.

I love it. Yeah. So you said earlier that the time goal might have taken a little bit longer than everyone had hoped to land on. Tell me a little bit just about the honest emotions of as that clock starts to tick down and now we're pulling the fucking goalie. And, you know, so talk me through that and then also into what you remember from when it went in. Yeah. So, I mean, six minutes left, we go on the kill. So that's kind of where...

Yeah, six minutes left, we go on the kill. We're down one-nothing and we're like, shit, shit. And we're like, you know, like, not like panic, but we're like, this kill will make the game. You either kill it and you survive or you get scored on and now you're down two nothing with under five to go. And, you know, that's a bigger hole. So we went out there and we just knew we had to get a job done and we killed it and that gave us some momentum. And we just kept pushing and, you know, everyone on the bench was like, we're good, we're good, we're fine. Like keep pushing, keep pushing. It'll come. And the energy was honestly great on the bench. And, you know, I'm not going to sit here and lie to you. Like during that TV time out, I sat down and closed my eyes and I prayed to God.

Hell yeah. And I said, and I said, you know, I know I probably don't come here as. often as I should, but just just give us something. Give us something like we've earned it. Like give us, give us something. And then we'll go from there. That honesty is why they're answered. When with the check in to be like, listen, I know it's been a while. I'm sorry. I love I'm sorry. And, you know, and then we pull the goalie honestly pretty early. But, you know, no doubt in our PP groups. Like, they're insane. I mean, you look at the people on those grouped and then like, oh, they got it. They're fine. Yeah, it was going. Yeah. Huge, you know,

like huge shout out to Carpe for when in the face off. I think Tessa got in there and wanted back. And then, you know, you get the puck in the hands of like Leila Edwards, Megan Keller and good things are going to happen. And honestly, when, you know, that shot, it was like slow motion that shot went through and then tip to Hillary, like, if everyone could just bottle up the emotion that was on the bench and I could just give it to everyone, it would bring so much joy in the world, I think. Like, we were screaming and we were like, yeah, fuck yeah, like, hugging each other. Like, and then it was really in that moment where we were like, we're going to win.

Like, I think that was the turning point when we said, okay, we're going to win. We got this. Whether this goes to overtime, whether this goes for the next four hours, we're going to win. And obviously, no one better than Hillary to score that goal. Like I said, such a goat always shows up when it matters. and just super happy for her in that moment. And then obviously, you know, the rest of the story, you know how it goes. So awesome.

One of my favorite parts about that replay I've watched it a bunch of times is I try to watch a different person each time, whether it's the bench or Layla or whatever. Because there, you leave your feet. Like people are literally jumping on skates into the air when it goes in. It is such an awesome reaction. It fired me out. It must have been incredible to live through that. Yeah. It was insane.

the bench was crazy. Like, I think that was probably, but it was probably like my highest vertical jump ever. I wish I would have gotten it, like recorded for my strength coaches to take that. We were right on. We were right behind you,

like truly, that's where our seats were. Your, your knees were well over the boards. Yeah. Like you were going nuts. I was like, Jesus Christ,

Kayla's going for it here. But, listen, you keep talking about this veteran group. And I know it probably doesn't feel that way for you. And we've, we've talked so much right after you on gold in our recap.

this group is so young it's nuts when you're looking at 2030 it's a pretty similar group which is unbelievable but you and i you know i know you wouldn't say this about yourself but here i am saying it you're a decorated olympian at this point i mean like holy shit man like you're you're sinking to the bottom of the ocean with these metals around your neck and i got to know i mean you when you think about the call up in your first one being a teenager youngest player on the team and now here you are, it's, it's crazy to think about. And I can't, I can't imagine how unreal it must feel for you, but how does this one compare to, you know, you're, you kind of had like a COVID Olympics, it feels like, and you know, you win the ultimate prize, then you don't win it. And now you win it

again. Like, is it, is it a mishmash in your mind or do any of them stand out over others? I mean, I think this one is by far the, the best one. I think like, obviously, winning. in gold in 2018 was an amazing experience. But I think, like, that team was amazing and I learned so much from that team. But I think I was like almost too young and too new into my process to, like, really, really appreciate the experience and the team and like what that team went through. Because I wasn't with them the whole quad. Like, I was so young that I just like joined them like three months before the Olympics. And I was like, I'm here. Like, hey. And like, I'm on the team. Like, yeah. And so like, and then obviously COVID also had a really great team.

Just obviously didn't swing our way. So that one's always going to fall a little bit deeper. And then, I mean, this one, this group is just like, I keep saying it, but this group is so special. And I think there's just something special. Like, you know when you have a special team, it's just something about it. You can't really pinpoint it. But that team, whatever it is, we had it. And I think it makes it so special. We just have so much fun together. and the amount of trust that we have in each other and, you know, everyone just doing their jobs. And when we play together, it feels, it's like beautiful, honestly. Like, there's nothing like it and even being, like, participating in it.

It's just, it's so fun to play with that group. And I think what, you know, winning and what it did for, you know, fans and the viewership and what the impact it's having is just going to leave a lasting impact. So I think this one is definitely super special. and on top of that the men's did it too and we we swept which is an amazing amazing thing and so fun and um you know always like to to stick it to Canada when we can so well so i'm curious this is you know as you mentioned this is the first time that it's been this way for you or any of any of the players i always wonder i think one of like the big fan questions that happen and i'm sure you've thought of this before you were on any of these teams when there is

the Olympic best on best tournaments, the feeling of how strange it must be going from this family and then back to your pro league and playing against each other immediately. Have you felt that being weird yet? Well, we haven't played against anyone yet. We played Toronto, so no U.S. girls in Toronto,

but we have a couple here in Ottawa that we're playing against. I think it'll start to feel a little bit weird. But, you know, like, we also recognize that this is just, this is our job now and this is, you know, kind of the name of the game and love seeing them in all these different cities. And we, you know, we go out to dinner and hang out and still see each other. And it will be really fun to start to see people after because we all just kind of dispersed so quickly, which is hard. That was shocking to me, Barney, how fast the turnaround is. Like, you know, you get a week vacation to celebrate this, but instead they're like, no, go back to life immediately.

That was crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, we were lucky we had, we had like three days there post our game. Yeah, you don't remember those that well, though, eh? That's a secret I will never tell. No. No, we had some fun, that's for sure. And we made some memories, which I think we all will cherish for a while.

So until we can meet again all together, you know, it'll be fun to see people in different markets and stuff like that. No question. No question. It's the best. Do you have any, you know, outside the rink. And, you know, we talked, we've been loving the stories from the calf and, you know, where you're sleeping in single beds. Did you have a moment in like the brief moments you had just being able to enjoy Milan that stuck out that you were like, oh, that was awesome? I mean, we were there for so long. So there's so many moments. I think for me, something that was really special with Milan was, this was the first time, like, my family got to be there. Awesome.

And I've had, like, obviously, so many great moments with the girls. And we did so many things. And that was great. But I think just, like, the little moments in between with my family. And this is the first time my dad's gotten to see me playing the Olympics. And my brothers were there. I have four older brothers. Like, they were there.

And their family. And so just being able to kind of see them and, you know, just enjoy the Olympic experience with them was really, like, special for me. And I think that's something that really sticks out in my Olympic experience this time was just having them there and, you know, feeling their support. And it was just really special. Yeah. No, that's, I mean, I can't imagine. That's all the time. Yeah.

Right, Chris? Like, that is such a cool feeling in general. But for you to have two Olympic experiences prior without them, I mean, that makes this all the more. incredible. How fast did you find them in the crowd during the celebration? That's what about to ask. It honestly took a while and I'm like, it got to a point where I was like, where are they? Like, I don't know where they are. And then I finally kind of found them. And my brothers were kind of scattered a bit and they all finally got to one place. And they got over the railing. And there's actually like a really cool picture of me like reaching up and my brothers are leaning over like yelling and

just just so cool. Like, uh, just such like so fun to have them there. And you know, they're like, They're my biggest fans. And, you know, we had some tough times growing up. But, you know, I think now, you know, we are best friends. And it was just, it was awesome. So once I found them, it was kind of like tears in my eyes. My mom was crying. My dad was crying.

Like, you know, my brothers were going crazy with beers in their hands. Like, they're just like, you know. Mini Caronnas. Yeah. The mini ones. Yeah. So it was just just so cool. Such a cool experience.

That is amazing. And then did you get to, obviously, you're with the girls for most of the, for the party and after, but did you get to have a moment with your family out of your gear off after the game to celebrate? Yeah, we all went to like the USA House that was there in Milan. Yeah, the Winter House and everyone's families were there. So got to see our families for a bit and before we went back to the village. But that was a really fun and everyone's family. So you got to kind of mingle around and see different people. So that was great. Yeah. God, it's unbelievable. So it took us. It took us. It took us. It took us. It took us.

a while to get there though i'm not gonna lie like with the with the locker room and then the goggles and that's not the funny thing it's like you you know you've got all your family and and people that you want to see but it's like the locker room is the best vibe in the world it's like you gotta no like you know hillary kept saying got to bottle this up we got a bottle this up because we just like we didn't want to leave and then at some point we're like all right we got we got we got to go like we got i think at that point we'd probably run out of booze or something. We were like, okay, now it's time to go. That's why we have.

You had done irreparable damage to the locker room and it's time to leave. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's true because you do want to live there forever because it's just that's the crew you went with. You know, that's the crew you fought with. And it's just, yeah. That's what a feeling. What a feeling.

Yeah. Well, I don't want to make you unlive all that stuff. But, you know, now it's like you said, it's what an amazing opportunity to be able to come back to your professional league. get a season that you're in the middle of. What are some things that are, you know, at the top of the list, maybe some matchups or some trips that you're looking forward to most here for Seattle? Yeah, I mean, we're in Ottawa now and then we go home for about a week and we have a home game, which will be fun.

Hopefully, you know, we get another sold-out crowd. Always fun to play at home in Seattle. And then we go on a big two-week road trip. And we get to go play in like five different markets, which will be really cool. And then we play in Chicago, which takeover games. So that will be really fun. Hopefully, you know, that game does well. And then one game I'm really looking forward to, I played for Montreal last year.

And we haven't been there yet. So I'm really excited to go back to Montreal and experience that atmosphere because obviously I played for them. And it's super fun rink. Their fans are awesome. So excited to go there and play against them in Montreal. Yeah, that'll be a blast. Are you a good two-week, Rodey Packer, or do you struggle? No, I'm pretty good, I would say. I've kind of got it. I mean, I've gone on enough road trips in my life now to, I got it down to a T. I used to be a severe overpacker and like it was a problem. And I'd be like, well, what if I do this random thing and I need this? And I'm like, that will never happen. I don't know why I'm thinking this will happen.

Like it's never happened. It never will. It's never happened before. It's not going to happen now. I don't know why I'm thinking this. But I've gotten a lot. better. So I think now I've, I've gotten it down to a science, which is, there you go, which is good. Yeah. Kayla, I used to do the same thing. I think I still am an overpacker, but I would have that same thought of like, well, what if we do this? And someone once said to me, it was like, well, if you do that, just buy the thing you need. And I was like, fuck, that's such a good piece of advice. Changed my life. It was unbelievable. I've also, yeah, I've gotten to the point to where I'm like, I have my passport and I'm my hockey here. Anything else is replaceable. It's fun.

So that's really all that really matters. Barnesy, we have a friend out here who says, as long as you pack a speaker and a bathing suit, you're good. Like, make sure whatever trip you go on, just bring a speaker in a bathing suit and then all things will go well for you. That's my favorite expression. Every time I'm packing, I just think everything will be all right. Yeah.

Maybe add the passport in there, but otherwise. Maybe. Yeah. All right. Well, Kayla, you're the best. I know we had some technical difficulties at the beginning of this, but thank you so much for popping on. with us, given some of your time. We know you're on the road here. You need to get some rest.

But we can't tell you how much we appreciate it. And also just we're so, so damn proud of you and impressed by everything. It's just, again, as fans and supporters watching you almost jump over the bench in joy and celebration, I hope you know, it just fills our hearts so much. We're so blown away with the tournament by all of you gals. It was unreal. Oh, thank you. And we felt the support from everyone. It was insane. So we appreciate it and thank you so much for having me. This was fun. I mean, listen, it had been too long and we're not going to let it go this long again.

We've got to start making this more of a regular thing. Absolutely. Sounds good to me. Oh, yeah. Massive thank you to Barnsie. She is also a legend. God, what a rip the women's team had. Man, look at the stats of that.

It's insane. We talked about it with both of them, like the five-goal run thing, the just dominance of Aaron Frankl. And I loved how Kayla was like the vibes will never wear off. Yeah. Yeah. That was a great answer. This is a person who already has a gold medal. Yeah. Has a silver medal. Like this, it's just so cool to hear. And I also loved that Kayla wasn't afraid to be like, this one was so sick. Yeah. And it was just being in Milan, the way they played. It was fucking unreal. So thank you again to Barnsey. And now let's kick it to the professors. Yes, we shall. We are back from holiday. The professors are back in session. Welcome to class. It's been a while. It's a Limbic holiday.

It was. We took a holiday to Milan. We took the channel. You channel across. I'm sorry. Is that correct? Are you saying channel? Is that correct?

I don't know what this is called. You can take a train or perhaps. Not from the island. Not from the UK. I assure you you can. It goes right till across, eh? Why are you saying channel? Is it that what it's called?

There's a channel between England and. In France. Channel. No, the channel. The channel. This is the theme day. Underground. It's called the channel.

Under the air, sorry. Channel linking folk stone, UK. Forgive me, sir. France. It's beneath the English channel. It's called the channel. Because it is the tunnel under the channel. That's terrible that I did not know.

I agree. Well done, sir. Well, we did take a brief holiday and we are back discussing the professor's picks for this weekend. We have nothing to discuss. of our last run or do we? No, no, no, no, no. So we go right to the Friday fade. Our favorite bet from the first half of the season,

it shall return. We'll see if it shall stay hot. And it's an interesting slate this Friday, because for those unfamiliar to the Friday fade, we find the game that is the clearest winner in the world, and then we go the other way. We fade it because, of course, whatever we think must be wrong,

and then it becomes right every time. For my money, I believe there's only two games that could possibly be the option for the Friday fate. So we're looking at cats at wings, avs at stars, Canucks at hawks, canes at oilers, habs at ducks, wild at nights, blues at sharks. And it simply must be either the blues at sharks or or the cats at wings. Interesting. And you mean to imply the cats are the fools. The cats have run through all nine lives.

They are dead. Interesting. Unfortunately, they're dead. Interesting, Daniel. So it's the cats, yes. So is it clear that the wings at home would beat the floundering dead cats? Or is it more clear that the sharks at home would beat the hapless blues who have traded away that entire team? I think it has foregone conclusion that both the red wings and the sharks win those games.

Yes. So we need to decide which is the more obvious. Is the more obvious win and then fade that. Yes, yes, Ted. We work so hard to make this pick. So we must get it right. I wonder if the wings are better than the sharks. I believe they are, sir.

The larger question is, are the cats worse? Or the blues more abysmal? Yes. The blues are surely more abysmal. The blues are surely more abysmal. than the cats, but is the Delta because the blues are here, but the sharks are here and the cats are here and the wings are here.

Which goes to greater delta? I think... The Panthers play on Thursday. The Panthers play on Thursday. Interesting, sir. So the wings surely will beat the Panthers at home of the Panthers back to back. I believe that might be the case.

Their wings will surely win. So it is absolutely certain that the Detroit Red Wings will beat the Florida Panthers while at home in Detroit, therefore we will fade the Red Wings and take the Florida Panthers to win on Friday for the Friday Fade. Delightful. Friday Fade is back

and we're on the back of the dead cats. Brilliant. Now we go to the Saturday Selly for those new to the program. This is the first Saturday Selly of the second half of the season. It's an anytime goal scorer on Saturday. One of the game Saturday will have a goal scorer

Shirley. We won't have all zero zero shootouts so someone will score. We will identify them. We will find it. Sherlock Holmes. here's who I have found as potential suspects. Tage Thompson, home versus the Predators, coming off his Olympics, firing in one-time.

The man is on an absolute heater right now. Kucheroff, on the road at the Leafs. I don't love that, but Kooch is currently doing that, I should be MVP, stat pad, that he always does right around now. He's got 31 goals this year. Did you know that?

All of a sudden, he scores a billion goals. I like Kutra. I think he has something like 79. points in his last 35 games. Oh, okay. Oh, you're the best player. Absolutely. Oh, it's you.

Mental performance. Geeky or Pastor at home versus the Caps was interesting, but Pastor's not even scoring much this year. I absolutely. We've not done him yet. Yes. I love Morgan Geeky.

Yes, 30. Morgan Geeky at home versus the guy. I don't love because it's probably going to be Logan Thompson in that. But geeky. Cap's struggling. Geeky. Anytime. goal scorer. We've not done it this year. I love that pick. Delightful. I absolutely

love that pick. Morgan Geeky. Saturday, Selly. Get your scoring boots warmed up. You shall be the Saturday Selly against the caps. Sunday hat trick. Brilliant. Pallet is a hat trit. It's a three-leg parlay. We do every Sunday. And here's the spread. I shan't, I almost hesitate to even read it because there's such an obvious. one, but I will give the listeners their picks. But the spread is wild at Avs, Bruins at pens, bolts at Sabers, hawks at stars, wings at devils,

blues at ducklings, oilers at nights. Obviously, on Sunday, after the Blues have traded away everyone on their roster, possibly including their goaltender, they travel to Anaheim, who had been dominant since two professors arrived to take flight

at their facility. The ducks will destroy in the blues. But you'd like the under as well. I couldn't tell. I just think the blues will score zero. You basically said they'd be playing an HL team. Well, there's six nothing.

Oh, that's not a bad point. Six nothing. Five one. Under? But what do you think? A blues money, excuse me, Ducks Money Line.

Ducks money line, absolutely. You want the under. Under six points. So we shall take the under. Give me a point. Give me a point score. Oh, dear me. Who shall we take?

We're thinking a potential shut out here, so we're taking a duck point. We will be taking the ducks. Let me see, let me see. I would like, my mind goes to Mr. Categoteer. But the heart, which is the heart truly live. Give me Beckett, Seneca. That's my boy. The rookie phenom to have one point.

Ducks money line under 6.5, Beckett, Senna. got point, anytime point. Sunday hat truck parlay. Brilliant. Now, what was Professor Watkins's name again? Dr. No, Dr. Watkins. Dr. Watkins. Dr. Watkins.

Yeah. We move now to the Saturday Mega Palais live on a beach. If we bet every money line on Saturday, put it into a punchball, turn it into a parley, and if it wins, you win a billion dollars. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Good, brilliant. Saturday Mega Palais. Daniel, we'll start with you. Just pick us a winner.

Caps at Bruins. I will take the Bruins, please. Christopher, rags at Devils. I will go devils. Dr. Watkins, preads at Sabers. Savers. Fantastic. Daniel, Daniel, flyers at Penns.

I will take the pens. We're going all home teams, which is always dangerous. Yes, we always hate that. Christopher, boats at Leafs. I will go boats. Watkins. Mammoth at Jackets. Oh Mammoth

Yes Yes sir Daniel Canucks at Jets Oh crikey I know I know Absolutely disgusting Matchup Uh

The Jets The Jets Yes sir Christopher Habs at Kings New Coach Bomb I would like the Kings there

I would like the Kings in that one Dr Watkins Cains at Flames Cains That's the correct That's the correct Pick Doctor Daniel Isles at Sharks

I will take the Islanders Yes you shall And then Christopher Sends at Spunk I don't go Sends in fact there I will go Sends An interesting pick That will be the cherry For those at home when we are one win away

And we get to that game And the Spunk Get a 2-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-ss, Isles and Sends. Fantastic. Enjoy. Now, take us to the Life on the Line parley for games. Our lives are on the line that we shall make a parley for. And I will say, we won.

The final life on the line before the Olympic holiday. We won. It was absolutely fantastic. And I highly recommend we continue to win. Because that was fond. Quite a lot of money on it too. I feel like it was a desperation, a life on the line. A he.

Life on the line. So now this week, who would you like to? Remember, Daniel, what would you say? Well, you pick. Oh, Dr. Watkins. Tell us which, who should lead? Wait, who are we talking about again? Well, we're about to do our nice little sonnets.

Who should go first? Oh, hmm, hmm. Let's go. Christopher. Well done. Christopher. Leg number one, life on the line, parlay. Playing the flames is far from laborious.

Playing the flames is far from laborious. The canes are better than them by miles. Surely Carolina will be victorious. It's not like it's the Eastern Conference. Oh, that's cheeky, sir. Well done. Cain's body lied in leg to the one. That laborious, victorious rhyme was just brilliant.

Brilliant. All right, would you like me to go? Yes. All right. My first. A city that sings and one that eats wings. Both are sure to deliver a good time. One team kind of sucks.

The other one fucks. Missing playoffs would now be a crime. Bad vibes start to fade. They might make a big trade. Things are looking up in Buffalo. So, Preds go away, I'm sorry to say. It's time for the Sabres to stuff a ho. Respectfully, of course.

Respectfully, of course. Sabers, money line. The next leg, the next leg, the next leg. Stuff a ho. I felt terrible doing it. The next leg, gentlemen, the next leg. The bullshit levels in New York have been ruthless. The bullshit levels in New York have been ruthless while they're grinding every day.

The alternate captain in Jersey is gold and toothless while he's grinding on Miss McCraig. Wonderful. Jersey money. Devil, devil body line. He's grinding on her. All right. Oh, yes, sir. You don't even understand.

You don't understand. Do you don't ask. Oh, cricky, fuck. And my final. One team is the most fun, and one has my son. Sharks and Islanders is my own Sophie's choice. Both in a playoff hunt, but one must be a runt, and the people on the island shall rejoice.

Misa is coming alive, and Mac and Will always thrive, but when it comes to Schaefer, I cannot be coy. So I hate to say, call me Daniel Day because I've abandoned my boy! Isles Money Line. Incredible. Incredible. Cains, Devils, Sabers, Islanders, Life on the Line, boys. Get it done.

Get on Bet MGM. Get your picks in. The professors have spoken and we have returned. Brilliant. Cheerio. Always a blast with the professors, but now it is time to close out with a little game of connective tissue.

You know this game? It is when I give you the bio of two hockey players and their names meet in the middle to form one hockey player. One time Dan gave me Brandon Carlo and Logan Couture. So it was Brandon Carlogan Couture.

Have you played this with us yet? I have not. No. It's okay. Do you get it? Wow. So it's like we did one time we did. He gets it.

Don't insult his advantage. Scott Stevens Stamco. Right, so it's the middle, yeah. Yeah. So the names will meet in the middle. Here is your player. You can play too, Ev. Now, actually, that's actually be fun.

I'll give it a shot. Because you guys can work together. We've never had a producer. Conner something. So many Conner's in the show. Hockey has a Conner problem. We have a real Connor. Okay, and the hints start hard, and then I can give you more as you don't know it yet.

Okay. I have a gold and a silver in international play, but I wouldn't trade either of them for my one Stanley Cup. and I've won a major trophy at the NHL awards four times. Oh my God. Despite only being 27 years old. Oh my God. Then, which means, now you're on to the next bio.

I was drafted in the third round of the 2013 draft, but I've become a clutch player in the league with a nickname to prove how good I make it look. I have been the property of four NHL teams, but the first two I was only in the minors, and I have three cups. Okay, so we got a gold and a silver. Yep. Four-time major trophy winner.

And a cup for that first guy. And it's only 26, 7. 27. Then, hold on. That's some bullshit. Are you just looking it up? No, I'm typing it out. I'm just typing it out so I can see it.

I know, I know, yeah. Hold on. All right, let's lock in on the first time. Dude, I am lost here. That's okay. That's fine. I don't know very many details about players lives. I'm going to talk it out.

I'm going to talk it out. I'm going to talk it out. A gold and a silver and is 27 feels like some bullshit because are, well, actually, are we doing women's players in the year? This is not, we could, we could always do a women's player, but this is not a one. Yeah, yeah. Well, then I'm saying this is some bullshit because I'm like, what, dude? Who was playing in the Olympics?

Who got silver? Are these Olympic medals? No. I said a world I said a gold and a silver in international play You were implying No I was not

I would have said Olympics No no no that's all right I would have said Olympics Rat pig Four time major trophy winner 27 years old I'm thinking I know this person

I think he's a very good defenseman but I'm not entirely sure Now the next one is a 2013 draft pick with three cups that is fucking wild. What were the other accolades of that person? There's a big hint in this one. I almost made it too easy, but it says,

I've been the property of four NHL teams. Yeah. But the first two, I was only in the minors. Okay. Interesting. And if you can read more into that hint, then you can get it. Like, which means he owns, he's only, if he's put in the property of four,

but in the minors on two, that means he's only been on two. Two NHL squads. Yes. And has three cups. Yep. Okay. I'm not making a guess, but I feel like Kale McCar might be the first one.

We know he has a silver in the Olympics. Currently, yes. And I believe I know he has a gold in some form of juniors. And this is the one cup, right? I'm trying to think he has one cup. Right. And he has, I believe, two Norris is, a rookie of the year, a Calder, and maybe he has three Norrises. Maybe a lady Bing?

That might be four. So I think it might be kale. Can I have a hint on the second? Yes. The second, or this hint might not be as helpful, which you think, but here's the first hint. I have two. Okay. The first hint is, I'll read the whole thing.

I was drafted in the third round of the 2013 draft. I've become a clutch player in the league, and I have a nickname to prove how good I make it. look. I have been the property of four NHL teams, but in the minors for two. I have three cups, and I was the first player to win a cup on two teams from this particular state. First player to win a cup. From this particular state. On two teams from this state. Damn. First player ever. So that might be Florida. Yeah. And it might be Vegas. Could be Vegas. Yeah, I was going to say Vegas. Do I have the first

What do you mean? Well, wait, two from... I'm the first player to win a cup on two teams from this state. Oh, they're both in the same state. Oh. You were saying two different states.

No, no. I'm the first player ever to win a cup. Yeah, I fucking heard you. No, it sounds like you didn't. It sounds like you didn't know what I'm talking about. Well, because you were like, I'm sure I've heard of styling, gel. Wait, wait, so does that mean that they played on

two teams that were in the same state? Yes. want a cup on both and he's the first. So now you've got to narrow down to which states have more than one team. So Florida, New York. That definitely didn't happen in New York. It can't be Florida because Florida won the Bolts won in like 2004. Yeah, but then they won again in 2020, didn't they?

But yeah, I know they won it again, but that wouldn't have been their first cup. Am I missing? You were having, yeah, you were having a brain aneurysm. I think you gave a shitty hit. I'm just confused. I'm a chaos agent. I'm confusing everybody. I was the first player to win a cup on two teams.

Are you saying he's the first player to have won a cup both on the lightning and the Panthers? Yes. Okay. That was a weird way of saying that. Yeah. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. I'm the first player to win a cup on two teams from this state.

And the sentence in the bio is, I'm the first player to win a cup on two teams from Florida. You're a fucking rat. I think you forgot Tampa won two cups. No, I absolutely did not. I thought you were saying I'm the first player to win a cup. Like. Ever. I'm

for this team's first cup is what I was saying I got it right right I misunderstood you gave a shitty hint so if it's as you usually do can the first person

be the second half of the joined names uh no no I give always give it an order okay I I believe I believe that my first guy is right okay

so I am going to that would mean I believe it's Cal McCar which means that the second person's name is Karsun or Kartur. And I'm thinking of players on, are there other names? Carl, Carl, Carl, could be a Carl. Yeah. Carl Hagelin was not on those teams.

No. You have said, you have said the name. Now, you've now said it. Yeah. Who is named? You said Carl. it's not. Oh, I got it.

Well, or Carter. I have no idea if this second person, well, I know that this person has three cups based on the two Florida team hint. Okay. If that person was, well,

no, I know that person was on 10. Okay, I got it. The answer is, Kale McCarter-Verhagie. Ping! Nice.

That is a great. Carter Verhagie. That's a great comment. Three cups. Really good. I feel as though people forget Carter Verhege. I completely forgot that. When I was looking it up, I was like, oh, I'll do Cal McCarter Verhagie. And I was going to give his bio. And then I was like, I won two cups, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I should just make sure I'm not missing anything from him. And it was like this. Yeah. Carter Hage won the 2020 Cup for the Lightning. And is the first person ever to win a cup on both Florida teams. And I was like, really? Yeah. No shit. I totally forgot that. Yeah. A true Florida man. Yeah. True Florida. And the best way. Yeah, he is a real. Florida man. That's fantastic. All right. That's it. That's a fantastic episode. That was a fantastic connective tissue. Well done, CP. That's going to do it for us. Hope you enjoyed those amazing

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