Empty Netters Podcast - No Seriously This Years Is The Cane's Year And They Might Never Lose Again 

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Taylor Hall is out of his damn mind and scores an OT winner from his knees to keep the Canes undefeated. And Mitch Marner is really buzzing now, helping Vegas hold off the Ducks in game 1. Huge games ...from both goalies in the West. Jarvy’s boys had Raleigh fired up. And oh yeah, the Leafs make the craziest GM move of all time.  Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 4:35 - Leafs Hire Chayka as New GM 17:43 - Flyers vs Canes, Game 2 44:24 - Golden Knights vs Ducks, Game 1 Join the Empty Netters Bracket Challenge! https://bracketchallenge.nhl.com/en/leagues/31315 PRESENTED by BetMGM. Download the BETMGM app and use code “NETTERS” and enjoy up to $1500 in bonus bets if you lose your first wager! Thanks to our Sponsors! BetMGM: Use bonus code NETTERS when signing up to receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your first bet loses. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US) 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR) 21+ only. Please Gamble Responsibly. See BetMGM.com for Terms. First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This promotional offer is not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. With more than 4 million listings, CarGurus has the biggest selection of cars - so it's easier than ever to find the right car and the right deal. Buy or sell your next car today with CarGurus at https://cargurus.com Work Hard and Change the Game. For a limited time only, new customers are getting an insane deal. Use code NETTERS to get 40% Off at https://gld.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all year? Not I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:00:20 So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Finish tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guineasas and ran into you guys. That's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready, and we're back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers. Dr. Watkins is on the sticks. Hey!
Starting point is 00:00:38 And CP still has a broken hand. As always. We got some great action tonight. Nettors after dark! We had a beautiful overtime game that almost went to double overtime. Yep. We almost had another overtime game. I thought we were going to.
Starting point is 00:01:00 But then. But then. Interesting stuff. And the empty net. Bet, that ate out. We've got Keynes Flyers game two, and we've got Ducks Golden Knights game one, and we've got the most shocking hire in recent memory of the NHL. And that's where we're going to start.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Well, first, dude, also, this is even first before first, somebody on the Cam York video when he threw his stick, somebody was like in the comments was like, do because I guess the crowd gave it to this old guy and it was really cool oh yeah it was a whole cool thing and those those guys were in the comment section on our clip okay they were like it was me i got the stick well one of the someone in the comments was like these fucking guys do two seconds of research before you run your mouths about what will happen to a stick and then somebody was like pretty sure they record it like mid like the game had just ended no one knew and i was like yeah
Starting point is 00:01:57 but yeah the game had literally ended about 30 minutes before we were in the studio until one a. I'm trying to give you content as soon as you wake up over your coffee. And you're mad, I don't already know who has the fucking stick.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I want that rat prick loser. Whoever made that comment to slide into our DMs and apologize, you fucking pig. What a fucking... That is just a classic... I haven't slept in weeks. Classic Instagram fingers,
Starting point is 00:02:20 some fucking dumb bitch sitting at home being like, do some research while he's stuffing his face with Twinkies. Fuck you, pussy. Jesus Christ. Anyway, more importantly, actually first,
Starting point is 00:02:32 you're listening to this on Tuesday, which means today is the last day that you can get in to the bracket challenge empty Netters League's second chances because listen, I posted a video for you yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:46 My bracket is destroyed. We have the, it's our Netters League, but we each made a bracket. My bracket is humiliating. I missed everybody in the East, basically. I missed half the West. I had the Bruins winning it. They're dead.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Minnesota I had going from the West, so at least they're still in it. But they could get really. rinsed by the abs in two seconds. Point being, I am the perfect example. My bracket is boosted. Yeah. So get in on that second chance.
Starting point is 00:03:08 How's yours doing? Pretty good. Okay, so you're fine. I'm being fine, but I lost a few. Yeah. And here's the thing. I want a perfect bracket. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 So now's the time to get back in there. It's unbelievable, dude. We've got the canes. We got the sabers. Oh. We got the habs. We got the flyers. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:27 No. The flyers. No. Let's go. The Canes haven't lost a game. We got Vegas out here, buzz it, winning their first game here. We got Colorado, undefeated, insane. We got the wild looking to get scrappy, and we got the duckies looking to make some noise.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It is time to get back in there and fill out your bracket again, because if it busted, you got another chance to fix it. So get in there, fill out your bracket again in your second chance, and get it cracking. You get some sick prizes. Don't you want prizes? Do the second chances. Come on. Give yourself a break. Everyone deserves a second chance.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Give yourself a break. Everyone deserves a second chance. So go get that bracket filled out again. Have put it up when we post it. Hey, the link's right here. And it's in the description too. Do it again. The link, the link is right here.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's right here. It's right here. It's right here. It's right here. Check the description. Fill out your second chances. Empty Netters League, baby. And don't wait.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It's free. Yeah. Get in there. Get it done today. Hit pause right now in the episode. Fill out your bracket and then come on back and finish. Yeah. Go get it done.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Okay, perfect. Now first. Now, let's talk about the craziest hire of all time. Dude, normally we get right into the games. There's no news other than playoffs. All you guys want is playoffs, whatever. But something happened today that was just, it felt newsworthy enough to bring up. Yes. The leaves, the Toronto Maple Leaves. Why do you always have to do this? Because that's what I always call it. Leaves? The leaves, yeah. Like make like a tree and leave? Yes. Yeah, exactly. It drives me nuts. The Toronto Maple Leafs. It's the Leaps. There's an F in there. The Toronto Maple Leaves. This is classic spin zone.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Chris is trying to make it seem less bad what the Leafs have done here by just doing a little distraction here. But I'm not going to let them. They unveil. Or they didn't unveil. It was already announced, right? But they had the press conference for the two people who are, it was weird because they wouldn't even really say titles. Like, did you watch the whole thing? I actually saw the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah. It was like, what do these two do? and they were like, well, you know, Pellie didn't even explain. I know he was like, they just, they, they're going to work together. Yeah. I was like, they're going to work in tandem.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Who is making decisions? I never like it when that happens. Oh, it's so bad. When it's like the, the GM of operations, right? Fuck it, come on. And it's crazy too, and one of them is Matt Sandine, who's a fucking, like,
Starting point is 00:05:50 franchise legend. So I'm like, is he, are you just not saying he's in charge because if this goes bad, you don't want to chop the head off your franchise legend. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 He can still sell jerseys with his name on. The hire, do you want to talk about the hire itself first, or do you want to talk about the question first? I want to talk about the hire itself. Okay. The news is the Toronto Maple Leafs have named John Chica their new GM. They apparently interviewed 27 people. Yep. And came down to this decision.
Starting point is 00:06:19 For those who are unaware, John Chica, I believe at 26 years old, was hired as the coyote's GM to zero success. It's Ice Town, yeah. He's literally Ben Wyatt in Partridge, Minnesota, being named mayor at 18 years old. He tried to make Ice Town in Arizona. They were like, I think of then he got to quit. He becomes an ice clown. John Chico. Ice clown of Ice Town.
Starting point is 00:06:48 John Chica and Ben Wyatt are the same person, dude. Finkel is Einhorn. Chica is Wyatt. It is so insane that that happened in general. But no success in Arizona, you know, they didn't maybe have the best roster or the best resources, whatever, whatever. But in his time there, he was caught lying to his owner and scheming there. He then got booted by the NHL with years left on his contract because he held an illegal scouting practice for prospects or something like that and was banned from the NHL, has since been reinstated. But then he became a businessman.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. The guy owns like fucking 50 Wendy's and a bunch of Tim Hortons. And he's just like a grifter. He's just like walking around with a bandit mask around. We don't know that he... I don't know that. Allegedly. We don't know that he's drifting in his businesses.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Allegedly. No, Dan, he was certainly grifting as a GM of the coyotes. But he might just be an upstanding Wendy's owner. Legitimately. I don't know. Brother, have you been to a Wendy's lately? Hey, fresh never frozen up in there. I bet every fucking square patty's frozen at John Chica's way.
Starting point is 00:07:56 If you think that John Chica is a... freezing his patties at his wendys. I bet every single square paddies. You're out of your mind. And that's a tragedy. The frosty machine is never working. Dude, the burgers are up in there. That's where the burgers are, dude.
Starting point is 00:08:08 He reaches into the fucking frosty machine and takes out of the burgers. Yeah. It's swamped up. It's true. So he has now been hired by the Leafs. The Leesco, we'll take it. You know what sounds like a perfect second chance for this guy, the GM job in Toronto. No pressure here.
Starting point is 00:08:25 That's what they thought. And what I think is. so fascinated about this. So fascinating. I need to know what member of this ownership group went. This surely won't have a terrible reaction. Nathan Fielder. I have a feeling Nathan Fielder's behind this. Who in that world, in that organization went, you know what? I think it's going to go pretty well. Who thought that? No one, but but clearly somebody,
Starting point is 00:09:02 but I just can't fathom how my only thought, Dan, is maybe it's so not insane because that makes, well, it is insane, but that's not even what I mean. Maybe it's so off the wall that that's, the thinking is that's the only thing that can work in Toronto. We can't hire just another GM that's been kicking around the league. Like we always bitch about by the way.
Starting point is 00:09:25 When we go, oh, this guy didn't do it at this team. team, so let's bring him here, which I guess he has a horrible trackwork in Arizona, but maybe he was just too inexperienced. Now he's learned from his mistakes. And he's the man crazy enough to pull this off. I mean, here we are, man. It's just seeing the way that everyone in the hockey world has responded has been alarming and eye-opening. And I mean, Yans was like, this might go down as the worst hire in the history of the NHL. That's not great to hear. The Leafs fans are losing their shit.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And it's crazy because you bring back a club legend like Sundeen and no one cares. That's how bad. That's how poorly this has been received that no one is being like this. Well, Sundeen's here. In fact, people are being like this. And Sundin has come in here along with this. God knows why. God knows why he's been brought in as the fucking Luigi to this dickhead's Mario to see
Starting point is 00:10:21 if this can work. And it's not even being received in a positive light. It's not, no one's mad about Sundance. but they're not relishing in the return. They're just being like, what is happening? That is terrible. They have someone, someone has pictures of Sundeen fucking a goat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Which is why he's been forced to take this job. Truly. How else could you explain it? And, I mean, listen, this guy's 36 years old. He hasn't worked in hockey since he got kicked out of the fucking league. And now he gets this job. And then the press conference happens. At the press conference, at the press conference,
Starting point is 00:10:55 Steve Simmons asks a question. Dude, it's like question four in a pact room, everyone's all hunky doors. Steve, by the way, who is a notorious shitster. People dislike Steve
Starting point is 00:11:11 and he came in here and threw a fucking hayman. He goes, question for Pelly. I have spoken to 20 big names in the NHL executive circle and he goes on to be like people that we know, everyone whose names we know, and only one them was supportive of this hire. The other 19 thought it was a sham, to be perfectly honest.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Words were used like con artist, liar salesman. Dude, he asked that in front of the man. It'd be one thing to ask the CEO that about the guy, but Chica is sitting right there. It is so insane, so insanely awkward. I barely, no trust. Yeah, liar. Like, he's just like, Dude, I barely blame Pelly for the quick response and dismiss because people were like, what do you said that's it? But I'm like, what do you want him to say with this guy sitting right now? This has so much stink of, did you say what the fuck-ass fuck of a bum-fuck shithole town is this? Did you say that?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Like that is being what is being said about this guy and Sindine is sitting there like this? oh dude you're right like imagine him and and pelly's answer was we talked he's like i did deep due diligence you must have talked to people i didn't i must have talked to different people than you thorough process were really happy where we landed but even if you did damn let's just live in a world for one second where pelly talked to 20 people of his own and every single one of them said he's a legend he's the best hire you could ever get yeah wouldn't it be alarming to you that if we're going to take steve at his word that 19 other people, granted, you didn't talk to them, but 19 other people are like he is a literal snake oil salesman liar. That's what I'm saying, man. It's like, you know, there are people out there who do things to reveal themselves as rat scumbag losers. And we all know who they are. Yeah. And you then talk to anyone. You care about our trust in the world and they go, oh yeah, everyone fucking hates those guys or everyone hates this person because they're fucking rats. Yeah. And losers. And when you ask,
Starting point is 00:13:19 tons of people and they're like this oh yeah i mean you obviously don't hire that person now again i don't know john chag yeah i so i this i'm speaking strictly from hearsay of what is being reported by everyone that so i am like yeah i don't know like maybe go and again they met with him as well as 26 other people and they were like we're hiring this guy so you must have blown their dicks off in this meeting maybe literally because otherwise how did he get out So as someone who does not know this person, I would hope that in said individual meeting, it was the most miraculous meeting you've ever had in your life. Otherwise, I am shocked by this.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Well, have you guys ever seen that movie The Producers? Yes. So, you know, the idea is like you could get more money with a complete bomb of a show than a hit. Maybe the people that own the Maple Leafs were like, we need to really tank. Yeah. Like, GM level tank. Do you think we're seeing a major league slash Ted Lasso? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yes. Okay. Sabotage. Now you're cooking. Now you're cooking. Yeah, this is something interesting. And it's going to bring the team together in a way that it never has before. That's how all those movies and shows.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah. The team comes together. Kelly watched Major League about a month ago. Yeah. This movie's incredible. And he went, wow, this movie's great. And then he was talking to someone about it. And someone was like, did you watch?
Starting point is 00:14:49 Ted Lassow because the beginning of Ted Lassos is very similar and he was like, really? And then he binged Ted Lassow. And he went, oh my God. Wow. Maybe the one thing that could really rally the troops together is this. So he went out and he hired John. Yep. And he believes that now Baroube, who apparently they're keeping because he has $6 million left on his deal.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And the team are all going to rally together. Yeah. And they're going to fight. They're going to fight. I don't fight. Despite John, in my opinion, this is, the Toronto Maple Leafs are pulling a Major League. Major League and Ted Lasso.
Starting point is 00:15:29 In my opinion, officially. Or producers, if you're a theater kid. Yeah. Literally only two scenarios. Scenario one is this. It's a producer's Major League situation, Ted Lasso situation. Option two is in the meeting, he went like, he basically just had magic beans and went, um, I'm, I'm keeping Matthews and I'm, uh, getting McDavid and, uh, I'm bringing in,
Starting point is 00:16:00 Brady. Like, you know, he just, he sold them this bill of goods and they were like, that sounds incredible. Can you do that? And he was like, of course I can. And then they went how, and everyone else, when they asked in the interview, they said, can we keep Matthews and get McDavid? Everyone else the interview went, no. And then they went, surely not. You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. This guy can get us everybody. Yeah, he promised him everything. Yep. And then now we'll see. We'll see what he can deliver on. Yeah. Again, it is, this is the only thing that makes sense to me. So pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Quick ad break. Yeah, let's take an ad break. And then we'll get into the games. NHL playoffs are here. It's happening right now. And every single
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Starting point is 00:17:47 but the canes are still undefeated. And that was fun because the Flyers, the Flyers haven't scored. I saw it, and I knew this, I think I just forgot. And maybe, I don't even know if you guys did either have, but the Flyers hadn't scored in the first period all playoffs, which is so funny. I did notice that.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yeah, right? And it gave me hope. I feel like every game was fucking zero, zero. Pretty much, but like there might have been one or two. Yeah. So the Flyers hadn't scored in the first period all playoffs. amazing. Canes hadn't trailed. Yes. Yes. Which is amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So this was really exciting. But you know why I was fired up, and you know, you know why. But before they even, before they, the game, the puck even dropped. And I actually love playoff coverage because they, they send you to the rink a little early. Regular season, it's kind of like, boom, go. But playoffs, they let you watch the anthem and they let you watch the antics and whatever celebrities or friends, then friends of the program they got there. And what do you know it, dude?
Starting point is 00:18:46 doing the fucking Parmesan cheese grater, storm surred, whew, weo, woo, boom, the good old Canadian boys up in the building. Losing their fucking shit. And I actually loved it because with, you know, we dealt with this when we took flight, Dan, when we were flying V.
Starting point is 00:19:04 True. There's only one take flight button. And with two of us, we were able to hit it together. But we did have to plan. We have to make a strategy. We sure does. It's not easy. We sure did. You could jam a finger. You could jam a finger trying to take flight. That's true. teamer. The good old Canadian boys, they got five, five, six of them, six of them,
Starting point is 00:19:21 right? So you can't six man a fucking cheese grater. No, that is too difficult. And it's too, the thing, you know how it goes, it warms up, it gets louder. It's like an assault bike. Like it gets louder as it goes. So you couldn't have passed it. You couldn't have been like, you take a spin, you take a spin.
Starting point is 00:19:36 All set, that's enough cheese. So they just, you know, someone took the reins and then the other was on the other boys to just be going apesh and they went apeshit. And that's exactly how you get a playoff crowd going. Jarvie's boys. I mean, I was ready to run through a brick wall. Tried and true. Every time I see the boys, I get fired up because I'm like, yes.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Look at the fellas. I thought it was super important. By the way, how many breakaways were there in this game? It was crazy. I thought it was super important that the Keynes got that one goal in the first. Yes, it was. It was a sick goal, too. Which one was it again?
Starting point is 00:20:16 Eelers. Oh, yeah, yeah. And we were told by a friend to make sure to talk about one Jackson Blake in this game. Yeah. And like that pass by Jackson Blake was putrid. Was excellent. And he's just that fucking kid is such a honey badger. Yes, it's, I said, I talk about Dennis all the time. We're talking about Keynes because he's my Keynes guy. But I said to Dennis last year, because he, remember, he loved Jack Dury. And I'm sure he still does. He loved Jack Dorey on the Canes. And I said to him, I go, who is filling the Jack Drury sized hole in your heart these days
Starting point is 00:20:54 and tell me why it's Jackson Blake? And he was like, no, I love Jackson Blake, but, and I forget who else he said? There was someone else he really liked. But I'm telling you, dude, it's Jackson Blake. It's always been Jackson Blake. It always will be Jackson Blake. He does everything. Two goals, six assists, eight points, plus six in six games in these playoffs so far.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And he does everything. I mean, that line is fucking numb. He's all, over the place. The kid's a fucking weapon. I didn't like, well, actually, well, I'll slow it down. Eler's goal,
Starting point is 00:21:23 great because I wrote down in my notes. Dare I say, dare I say, dare, I go out on a limb. Maybe. And say that Eelers, literally,
Starting point is 00:21:35 Nikolai Eelers, is the difference maker between past Cain's failures and Cain's success. You may dare. I'll allow it. They don't have a superstar. And listen, Nick, I love you.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I'm not saying, sitting here going, Eelers is a super superstar in this league. And he's the guy that splashes across your headlines and you go, oh my God, the Keynes are winning the cup now. But I think he might be enough of a star that this was a piece that they didn't have. And now they have them.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And now they have them, Dan. And now they're the derelict campaign. He booked it. And then now here we go. Dare I. Again, I just said, I'll allow it. Allow it. So that was huge.
Starting point is 00:22:14 after the second Philly goal. Yeah. And shout to Keturier too, because he's having a hell of a fucking laugh. Talking about being everywhere. He's having a hell of a playoff. And just doing everything, which is sick. It's why you're the captain? Good for him, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Why you're the captain? Because he's fucking seen some shit, Dan. You know, when there's somebody, I actually, I always felt horrific for Marcus Smart because he went through hell. He went through hell. And then he got booted in the Celtics won the title, even though they're frauds and they should never have even won that title. but anyway, I digress.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Couture has seen some shit. He knows where the bodies are. He knows where the bodies are buried in the Flyers organization. And for him to just still be here putting in playoff goals gets me going. Gets me going in a big way. After that goal through, I would say the halfway point of the game, not, you know, just like 10 minutes left in the second period, the shots were already up to 218, Carolina. And I thought to myself, damn.
Starting point is 00:23:13 this is not good. Flyers got a hot start, great bounce, power play goal. But then it just felt like Carolina, Carolina, Carolina, here we go again. They are a wagon. Yep. Game one, I thought the Flyers were better in the third. Now, maybe you go that Carolina wasn't trying that hard, whatever,
Starting point is 00:23:33 but I just thought the Philadelphia Flyers made Carolina play more their game in the third period of game one. Maybe irrelevant, but whatever. As this game went too, I thought the Flyers did the same thing, never more so than in overtime. They were shit-kicking Carolina in overtime, legitimately. That is the only time in this game when they were playing. I include when they scored two goals in the first period,
Starting point is 00:23:55 Carolina beat the shit out of them in the first period. They beat the shit out of them in the second period. They beat the shit out of them in the third period. The only time the Flyers were controlling play in this game was periods of overtime. And they had strong periods where they had flurries of shots, which is why they hammered them in shot total. Yeah. And Freddie came up big.
Starting point is 00:24:13 But again, didn't think there was a ton. Actually, there was one clear breakaway, maybe two. Dude, TK had a penalty shot. I think there was two clear breakways then. But other than that, I felt that there weren't very many, like, scoring, scoring chances, but the Flyers completely controlled play in overtime and flurries. And I will slightly disagree only in that I think there were. There was a few, like, Mitchkoff had one that broke Keander Miller's stick.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Someone else had one. That's right. That I was like, these need to go in, like, score. Holy fuck. Yeah. And credit to Key and to Freddie and to everybody. But there were legitimate chances. Even some of these, Dan, which maybe is you don't call a chance, which I accept why.
Starting point is 00:24:54 But there were a few, like, Porter had one. He's on the left side because he's a right shot that he snapped back door that just kind of went between two flyers. But if either of them had got their stick on it, and it's a wide open net. So it probably doesn't even register as a scoring chance in whoever's keeping that book because it's just a misstance. pass but to me those are scoring chances because oh my god if that puck just lands on a stick it's in the net and and the flies had two of those probably too and over time so they are going to be they are pissed they are feeling shitty right now with with not being able to pull that one out yeah 100% agree um i think i want to talk about jarv eagle yep me too because i got it feels so good to be
Starting point is 00:25:40 fucking right. Got asked about Jarvie. I think I mentioned it this morning. Got asked about Jarvie on the hockey talk. And I was like, this is not the guy you have to worry about. He's a little banged up, but Jarvie will get going. Boom. Great play.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Great dish to Jarvie. Great shot and goal. And you could see it in Jarvie Selly. Obviously great cutting up to the boys. But like he wanted it. He was like fucking there we go. Finally. But then also.
Starting point is 00:26:10 It's like, it didn't feel like, I don't want to say a monkey off the back moment, but it was like, he was just like that. Yeah, I knew it was coming. And that's why I say, that's not a guy you worry about. Yeah. So, you know, that was awesome and sick to do it when his boys are there. Sorry, boy. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Sick to do it when his boys are in the building. Always, always sick to do it. And also jumping ahead, but sick, because we've experienced this in Utah and nearly in Tampa. It sucks so much when you're the, you're the guest of honor. and then the team loses. You know, the good old Canadian boys are here. Let's go. We haven't lost in the playoffs yet.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Now the Canadian boys are doing the cheese grater. And it's like this, boom, flyers, two nothing. You're going to get rinsed by five. And you're like, and Seth didn't score. And you're like, fuck. So to have them pull that out and Seth score, it's like, oh, we're invited back, boys. I feel like we stroked off Halsey so much this morning. So I don't know how much more we need to do it.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I don't need to repeat all the stuff that we said. Uh, love a grimy goal like that. From his knees. From his knees, just digging it in, making sure it goes. Uh, I more so want to talk about, do you think, is that gutting for Philly? Okay. Um, so first on the goal itself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Uh, watch the slow-mo. And Ray Farrow said this. If you're watching the broadcast, you heard it. But on the slow-mo replay, it's actually amazing because Halsey rips that shot, falls to his knees and is sliding across the crease. And Lidar, who legitimately I wanted to win today just for the Star Wars thing. I just thought that would be so funny. I would have been great.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I know. Vladar is going to cover it, and a Carolina stick gets one eighth of an inch of the puck and just knocks it out of the mousetrap. I know. And it's Jackson Blake, which is why the friend who brought it up said not only does he have sick myths, but he has that jam. That's the play where he's just fucking cause chaos, dude. So that was unreal.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Watch the slow-mo of that goal again if you haven't seen it. Amazing. For me, Dan, maybe I am too much of a fucking sucker. I'm realizing this through these playoffs. I'm a sucker. But the, I can find a win in anything. Dude, I'm going to steal Bugsys quote. Everybody's fine until you're fucking out, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Everyone's going to be okay till you're literally on the golf course. So if I'm Philly, we're not out, which by Bugsy's definition means we're fine. Yeah. And I, obviously there's the like, no one, a playoff series hasn't even started until the home team loses, right? Which I kind of adhere to. But my point is, Philly got, got. kind of dog walked in game one, right, where he was only three nothing, but you were like, man, they were, they were a bit all over us. Damn, Carolina's good. Halsie even said it in one of his,
Starting point is 00:28:50 those like mid-game interviews they do now, but he was like, they're way quicker today. They're quicker on puck battles, whatever. I think Philly in game one went, holy shit, Carolina's fast, which they are. Yeah. And then in this game went, we're ready now. Yes, and they, it's, it's kind of what I said to Lox today, right? It's like, I don't think Philly is going to win this by griming it up. I think they're going to, to show their skill and match speed, and they definitely did do that today, especially in, like, you said, look at O.T. They weren't like, we're going to beat you physically in O.T. We're going to try to skate with you,
Starting point is 00:29:24 and they did. And that was great. So you're gutted because you go, how in fuck did we lose that game, considering we're the only team that touched the puck all of overtime? Yeah. And then Taylor Hall puts one in his fucking niece. Yeah. That sucks, because if we leave Carolina at 1-1, we are fucking yucking it up on the plane on the way home. Yeah, they definitely are. But I think Carolina would be too. Same, same. I maintain, listen, do I think Philly is as good as Montreal or Buffalo? No, I do not.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Philly is not a bad team at all, though. But this is even with the, I mean, look, Carolina beat Ottawa and O.T. Yeah. I just don't think Carolina is phased. And when Rod said, we haven't played our best hockey yet, and you're like, that's such a raw thing to say, he's still saying that. Yeah, and he's right. Yeah, and this game was definitely not their best. and they find a way to win.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Too quick, you could call, like, I don't want to say weird goals. It certainly wasn't like Tampa's goal or, excuse me, Montreal's goals. Yeah, no, those are, I like those goals. Those are goals. They were weird plays from Carolina, kind of sleepy on it, and especially when you give up a goal within a fucking minute, you're asleep. And then they just locked down, Freddie locked down, and then they up their play. The Euler's goal came on a power play, but it was a goal that felt like it was coming.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Yeah. They got scored on twice and then they just started pouring it on. Then they are all over them in the second, all over them in the third, and the Jarvie goal was like, yep, there. I was like, I was like, this was come. Yeah, I did think Philly need, and I was eventually proven wrong by this, by how well they played in overtime. But in the moment, I did think Philly needed to hold on 2-1 or they'd be dead. So when Jarvie scored, I was like, see ya. And then they were fucking shot out of a cannon in overtime.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So I take that back. But I hear you, but I don't, I think Philly goes, dude, we're okay. Just go home and let's get, let's win game three. I mean, that is obviously the only focus, but I think there's a lot of belief in that room, and there should be that they can win game three. One thing I thought was insane in this game was the penalties. Flyers one for seven. Sorry, getting it.
Starting point is 00:31:31 One for seven on the power play. Carolina, one for six. Both teams pissed about that, right? I was actually texting Mason because he was up watching the game. And I go, I said, I was like, I think Philly deserved to win after that overtime. And he goes, does any team deserve to win if you're one for seven on the power play? And he's not a hockey guy, but I was like, good point, Mason. Very well said.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And you could see, dude, the, both coaches, they were talking about intermission. Both coaches were pissed how sloppy that game was. You're getting no five-on-five play when there were 13 fucking penalties called. That's ridiculous. Nobody wants that. Can I, you guys haven't talked about my favorite moment of the game. Which was? It's when Vladar paddled stank.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Evan on the ass. Oh my God. Can you see this way? Dude, that was such a Is it on screen right now? Yep. Look at that. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Spank. He's like BDSM paddling him on the bum. That is so funny. It's so funny to me. So dude, you don't like that call? A proper spank on the ass. I don't like either. I don't like either call.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I don't like the call on Stankovan and I certainly don't like the call on Vlodar. Let me see. You don't think you don't think you should call it goalie for paddling some on the ass? The call on stank is consistent though. in my opinion. I hate where we're at with goal interference. But the call on stank is consistent. It's to me just a funny visual to use your goalie paddle,
Starting point is 00:32:52 literally to paddle someone on the ass. Oh, dude, that's insane. Like he's in fucking like the frat house. I'm actually kind of surprised they called him because... Yeah, that's kind of soft. You're obviously swinging your stick a lot, which, you know, like any other player doing that would get called. But usually they just give the goalie a break, especially because he's just been steamrolled.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah. It just looks so funny. It's so funny. at Stank. He's like, Stank's not really, I guess he does kind of linger, but in my mind at first he's kind of stuck
Starting point is 00:33:15 on Vlad's leg. So he's like, dude, where do you want me to go? He's literally like arching his back like a stripper, like waiting for it. God,
Starting point is 00:33:21 it's great. Dude, I also, OSH at intermission, shout out Osh, he's doing such a good job. O'S at intermission goes, um, they were talking about the penalties
Starting point is 00:33:31 and they were like, there's been, I forget what Steve Levy said, but it was X amount of delay of game calls. and it's essentially the same number of playoff games that have happened in the NHL, so essentially every game is a delaying game call.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And Osh was like, I think that's so lazy. Know where the puck is going. Be responsible, put it off the glass. And then him and Subon, we're talking about going off the glass and stuff. But I couldn't agree more, and I've always said that.
Starting point is 00:33:59 But I feel like everyone else goes, no, dude, you don't understand. These puck's rolling edge, the NHL guys, they're just trying to get it. They know they have to get it high and out, so it's whatever. In my mind, that is a fucking, penalty, dude. Under no circumstances, am I shooting the puck over the glass? There are insane ones.
Starting point is 00:34:15 One, this earlier this year, hit cutter stick in midair. He's swinging his stick to get it out and hits in midair and goes out, okay. But when you have the puck, who did it? You're off. Like, if you have the puck and I'm like, what the fuck are you doing, dude? It doesn't have to be that high, you know? Everyone's glassing out. I'm like, dude, the boards are right here. Yeah. The glass is way up there, dude. Shoot it at the rim. A little rim. RIMs. job never heard anybody no dude people love fucking crazy so that was nuts um last thing i got to say about this i don't know if you guys saw this but the carolina hurricanes uh put uh put for sale at the rink what does that ring called lenovo uh the the canes ring yeah uh uh
Starting point is 00:35:01 do you know yes yeah Lenovo center yeah formerly formerly PNC yeah that's i was it put it's Lenovo now. Lenovo put on sale beer skates. Did you guys see these? Yeah, I did see that. People freaking out about that. Oh, you don't like them. No, no. I didn't I love it. I think they're cool. But people I felt as though some of the reactions were like, this is the greatest invention in the history of hockey. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:34 oh, I didn't think they were that cool. They haven't seen the beer saber yet. Well, dude, Unfortunately, I think they have, and they went, no one can fucking drink out of this. Because you can't put it down. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, guys, you're in Buffalo. Who's putting down their drink? Dude, a bunch of butt. I got some buddies, dude. One sip. I got some buddies from up there. Yeah. Go, if they're ever at an event where the drinks are served in a stemmed glass. Yeah. Right? They snap the base off the stemmed glass. So now you can't put it down. It's just the
Starting point is 00:36:09 stem and they go yeah now you finish finish it now pal jesus what a waste of stemware incredible so anyway the beer skates dude go on sale and they literally sell out in immediately they are gone and now the someone the president of the canes has essentially said uh we're not getting anymore and people are like oh no mean all everybody wants them so badly and he said that they can't they just wildly underestimated that people would like them. And now the people that they worked with to make them can't turn them around fast enough to get any more back for playoffs. Damn.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And dude, I, one of our great buddies, walked into a fucking jeweler and then walked out with an engagement ring to propose that morning. And they said, sir, this is a month-long process. And he said, not today, it isn't, pal. Give me the fucking ring. Things can get done. I just don't understand. I refuse to believe. Somebody step up. Some manufacturer can make the beer skate. This is mind-blowing to me that they're just going to let
Starting point is 00:37:12 this opportunity die. I want one. You, dude, you are a greedy piece of shit. I've ever seen the movie Blackberry? Yes. Great movie. You are the person who goes, make the phones with the shitty parts from China that buzz and
Starting point is 00:37:29 suck and you lose quality. That's what you want to have happen. No, dude. You're literally saying, figure it out no matter what. Damn, damn the quality. Dude, I'm giving it's dripping all over you. I don't care if that thing ain't sharp. No, Dan, I've actually learned in life that all the lead time to get anything done, to make this T-shirt, to make this product, to get this shipped is literally all bullshit.
Starting point is 00:37:51 It's just people don't want to do it. They don't want to work hard. But if you're like, hey, dude, I need it right now and I will pay. Then anything can happen. Yeah. So get the beer skates. This isn't a hard equation. Get them.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And somebody else should make them. If someone else is listened to this and can make a beer skate, a good quality one, then make them, dude. because you'll make a fucking $1 million. As long as you don't mind drinking little particles of glass so you're going to be fine. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah, no big deal. They are cool. It's just glass. I have a question. Can someone, can every team make those now? Now that every team sees. Well, are we getting to that, like, you know how in movie theaters now one of the big draws is like,
Starting point is 00:38:27 fucking custom popcorn buckets and custom drink? Are we getting to that level now with NHL games? Yes, you have to do. Gimmicks are everything. Gimmicks are everything. Do you think I want to drink out of a fucking cup, dude? I mean, dude, if you don't, Look at how much of a talking point the beer saber has been.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. You need gimmicks. Well, until I can fuck the beer skate like I could fuck the Dune's popcorn bucket, butthole. I think this is a huge failure because... You could fuck the saver, I'll tell you that. Get your fucking drinking items jokes out. Sorry. No, do we have any more?
Starting point is 00:39:05 No, that's it. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. How about will you fuck a duck? Okay. Let's get a rubber docking. Let's go. There we go.
Starting point is 00:39:12 How about that? Yeah, I like that. I think you have a massive missed opportunity here to, you know, those like hurricane simulators. Yeah. Yeah, you step in the wind blows everywhere and then you grab the money. Put people in that and just pump beer into it. See how much you can drink.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah. Oh, that. Now that is something that's an idea. We're talking. A bunch of beer. Shout up my phone. That's an idea. Now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah. That is really good. All right. And I'm going to now think up a drinking vessel for every team. I love it. And I'm going to, someone owes me money. Yeah, yeah. I love it.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Cains are sitting pretty. Flyers, great fight. And now we come back, now you go back to Philly. Yes, just win game three, Dan. Just go back to Philly. Win game three. But Keynes, keep buzzing. All right, another quick ad break.
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Starting point is 00:44:37 but Vegas just can't, they couldn't reach their full, I guess we said this this morning on the lie, but you can't, they can't reach their full potential if Mitch Marner isn't, not like carrying them, because you have Jack and you have guys,
Starting point is 00:44:52 but if Mitch Marner isn't special, isn't giving you a special playoff performance, then Vegas is just the Vegas that has existed. And that won a cup in whatever, 2019, no, yeah, yeah, no, 2023. Yeah. Yeah. That won a cup, not that long ago, but just in the last few years, I go, I need, this is why we got you, dude. I need you to be a guy. And if you are, now all of a sudden those preseason predictions don't look that crazy. But if you're not, if you're this Mitch
Starting point is 00:45:22 Marner who's a point per game in playoffs, but he's like, I have one goal and I have a lot of assists, then I just don't think they can do anything. I don't think they can make a run. I don't think they can get past the ducks. I don't think they can be they can, uh, hang with a Colorado or a Minnesota. Yeah. But if he's this guy, if this is Mitch, they're pretty scared. I mean, this is the investment you made. Yeah. Right. When you make an investment in a player like that, cue Jack Eichael. And then they go to the cup and Jack performs the way he performs. You're like, and that was exactly why we did it. Thank you. And now the way Mitch is playing, they're going, and this is exactly why we did it. So Mitch coming alive big time these last three games is
Starting point is 00:46:00 absolutely huge and that pass was disgusting. Oh my god, Dan. It was the extra push. He kind of had a lane. He had a shooting lane and then he just takes that extra step to change his angle and seize the thread and just snaps it. And it was just easy work. And how didn't, speaking to hot. How didn't this is, and dude, it's a lot of his goals are right in the, right around the blue paint. Yeah. But so was Zach Hyman's. You know what I mean? You just, If you have a guy who can get on the end of your superstars plays, do you have any fucking idea how valuable that is in playoffs? You just need guys.
Starting point is 00:46:39 You need guys putting pucks in nets. If I can get eight from Houdon, if I get 10 from Houdin in this playoff run, you're laughing. That's insane. I want to talk about the Ducks real quick at the beginning of this game. Frankly, the whole game. But the Ducks, I have been banging the drum all playoffs
Starting point is 00:46:58 about the road team managing the beginning of games better. Yeah. Not coming out and getting the doors blown off you. And I guess I should have said that's too about Philly. Credit to Philly for stepping on Carolina throats in the first few minutes of that game. But first game of the series, you're in the big bad fortress, the Stanley Cup champ, Vegas, Golden Knights. You're the little ducks.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Yeah. Vegas won the Pacific. And the first, I mean, it was a scoreless first, but the ducks were flying in the first period. Yeah. And that is how you play a fucking first period road game, dude. Yes. No doubt. I don't even know how they're doing this, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:31 They don't know where they are. They, dude, they're just flying. Flying V. You know, they're just doing their thing. I thought this was a great game for both Dostall and Hart. Me too. An important game. More important game for Dostall than Hart.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yes. But an important game for both. Very, very important for Dostall. Like it was a how you feel it. Yeah. How would you say you feel on a scale from 1 to 10? And he was like, pretty good. And but yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:59 duckies were all over them. I think they won the shots battle in every period. I think so. And early, it was, it was sturdy. I mean, shots were 3422. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all over. You're frustrated. You didn't do better on the score sheet,
Starting point is 00:48:11 but for a team that scored goals all series against Edmonton, who has a poor defense, sure, you feel like today was a blip. And then obviously, Leo Carlson makes one of the most highlight real plays you will ever see. And then just puts it so cleanly on Lecombe's stick
Starting point is 00:48:27 I legitimately think it's one of those plays where it happened. It was so beautiful that Lacombe was like, Jesus Christ, dude, and just went to pass it across. He's a pass first guy. You got to fucking rip that. He knows it. Everyone on the Ducks bench was so great about it. They were just like, dude, shake it off, whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:43 It reminds me that Crosby mocking clip, you know? Yeah, absolutely. He knows, dude. Tell him who's going to get the next one. They all handled that well. But I think the Ducks look at that play, and they're like, dude, that's a goal. Yep. You know, the goals were there.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yep. and you know heart feels great though heart heart feels great about that game because they they did get peppered with great chances especially down the stretch there dude this looked like heart more in those early games of the Utah series when I went yo dude yeah the fuck how in the hell because dude it was a surprise when they even got him and we were we said many times when that happened can you imagine if Carter Hart just pulls off a cons my performance in
Starting point is 00:49:21 Vegas wins the cup because they got Carter Hart yeah after everything And then in his run of the regular season, he just didn't look like, I'm not saying he's a bad goalie, I'm not saying he'll be out of the league, I'm not saying he won't get better. I'm just saying he didn't look like this absolute playoff game changer. Early Utah, I thought, holy shit, maybe he is. And then that tapered, super early, Ducks won game, but that was a hell of a playoff game that he just gave you.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Yeah. Because he made some big staves. Ducks were getting chances. Like they were firing pucks at him. And that was awesome. I also think the ducks must think, we've been talking a lot about, oh, the abs weren't playing a goal scoring team and now they are. We've been talking about it in that direction a lot. The ducks must think this is fucking incredible to not have to play the Oilers in terms of goal scoring against.
Starting point is 00:50:10 You know, like the Oilers, every mistake you make is bang in the back of your net. And you're going to have to score five to win. They must have been like, hold up. Do they only score two? And I'm like, yeah, buddy, it's okay. Yeah. We got a whole new way to play, dude. You don't have to freak out anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:27 McDavid's gone. Drys title's gone. You don't have to score seven fucking goals a night. So, yeah, they wanted more than one, but look at it in the other direction. They must be like, oh, sick. We're fine. Yeah, I think both teams, I mean, Vegas, that's a fucking great win. I feel like the ducks feel.
Starting point is 00:50:50 fine, like you just said. But that's not to say they're like, dude, we're not, we're not fuss with Vegas. I think they're like, this is a great team. Yep. But we're in it. And that's great. And if you lose game one away, that's a great feeling to have. Yes. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I love starting on the road. Dude, I love starting on the road. I think, I don't know if you guys saw this, but in that midgame interview that they've been doing, Hanifin got brought in, and they kind of let him there, so I don't want to take too much credit. But I don't know if you guys heard, but he literally goes, yeah, we actually feel good about this series because we basically just played this team. Like Utah was the young team with no play of experience that's exciting.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And I was like, that's exactly what I said in the live this morning. I was like, credit to me, absolute snipe job. The Vegas Golden Knights go sick. We just played this exact team where, you know, the aves are pivoting. And other teams are like, oh, shit, it's a new vibe. And I'm like, do what you just did. Which could, could be scary because it. it felt like Vegas found the game by game six against Utah,
Starting point is 00:51:52 and now you're just going right into the Ducks where you go, we got this. Yeah. But man, the Ducks gave them everything tonight. The Ducks, the Ducks, I was what they deserved to win. That feels harsh. But they absolutely could have, probably should have won that game. Are you going to John Cooper it?
Starting point is 00:52:10 No. I will never. They won the game, they just lost the score. We won the game, not the score. We should get that on a welcome map. Yeah. I won the game, not the score. Here's my issue.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Well, this is my deep-seated issue, dude. I took, I was texting Max, and I said I was going to sprinkle some first goal score. I've been loving that. Okay. And I go, I feel like it's Leo or Granny. And I didn't know which one he took, or if he even took him. But then when it was zero, zero, Leo rang one.
Starting point is 00:52:45 And I was like, oh, my God, because I had Granny. and I was like, you imagine if I had Leo had Matt I'd be right now. And then, obviously, Vegas scores, but then Granny scores. And I was like, God damn. Dude, I get a Leo post and a Granny second goal. You've got to be fucking kidding me. But that was big. And then Vegas comes right back.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And Dan, I mean, this is honestly, other than the dostel, the play of dostel and heart. This is probably the biggest takeaway from this game for me. I think that is icing. And Quenville on the bench went crazy. showed a bunch of replays after where Jack, and Jack's a beast, but Jack is making an effort and he does have a bit of a position. I would say at best they get even, but the interesting thing is Lecombe is there first. Yeah, it's not debatable. I'm sorry, and I'm about to read the rule. Okay, thank you. I was just supposed to bring this up. I don't know what it did, but read this.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Here's the thing. Lecombe is there first. Lecombe slows up and like boxes out, Jack, which part of me is like, why did you do that? Just go get the puck. But then you all. also got to remember, this is a fast fucking game. He doesn't know that's going to get blown. And you also don't want to go firing in there and then get fucking ass rammed by Jack. And I think he was afraid of catching the puck a little bit. I need this to be icing. So, listen, what Dave Jackson said, and I love Dave. Yeah, me too. Dave. Dave, because it's his job, tends to agree with the refs. It is his job to do that to try to make fans lose their mind less. But also, it's his job to just explain the rules. he said, what people don't realize is that it's not a race to the dot. It's not the first player to get to the dot. The linesman must make a decision at the dot as to who he thinks can get to the puck first, said ESPN rules analyst Dave Jackson. At that angle, the Vegas player seems to have a step on the Anaheim player, disagree passionately.
Starting point is 00:54:35 His judgment right there is that the Anaheim player stops skating, puts his arm out, and the Vegas player would win the race to the puck. That's why he waives it off, in my opinion. Well said by Dave. Yep. I disagree. I think Jackson was there first. and then at the end of the play, Jackson is certainly in position and there first.
Starting point is 00:54:50 His stick is outstretched. It is what it is. I do not give a fuck about this play. I am not sitting here going, that is why they won. It's bullshit. I have been all playoffs. I think complaining about the refs is the most bitch-made behavior in the world. Every single game has plays like this.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Some of them result in goals. Some do not. Bitching about it is soft as shit. We do sometimes have to talk about it. We're talking about it right now. I think that was icing. I think that was icing. It's whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:23 It doesn't matter. And I'm not sitting here being like, the ducks got robbed. Yeah. Because they fucking lost. Whatever. You didn't have to give up a goal right after that, but you did.
Starting point is 00:55:34 So fucking suck it up. Sick pass. Sick pass by Dorothea. So you gave up a goal. Frankly, Trubo was asleep at the wheel on the cover there. It's whatever. I thought it was icing.
Starting point is 00:55:46 It doesn't fucking matter if it. was icing or not. But that's that. Dem's the brakes, folks. I actually, what I thought you were going to say about the rule, because this is true, is it's not like a race to the flat line. Like, if a puck is in the corner and I'm the defenseman going this way, if you, you don't get to just skate, like, straight to the goal and try to, like, lacrosse beat me. It's like, I'm going to get the puck. What I didn't, what I've never heard is it's a decision at the dot to see who would then win. And I'm sure that is literally what the rule says, but I don't even think it gets called that way. Doesn't, Chris.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Because if a forward is catching an defenseman, if the defenseman beats him, they go boom. Yeah. That is why I think it's bullshit because we have seen all year. I think they call icing sometimes in a way to like protect players too. Yeah, agree. It is so often that the four checking team, in my opinion, is their first or going to get their first. And they're like, icing. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Because they're just like, whatever. And players are always like, are you fucking kidding me, dude? I was getting that. this was one where I was like the defensive player has position and you call it that favorably every time and then this one they don't
Starting point is 00:56:54 and it results in a goal. So I was like, that feels insane that you're, this is the reasoning that they give when it feels like it has gone the other way every single time. And what's annoying about that is blind Vegas fans will go
Starting point is 00:57:09 well it doesn't matter because that's the fucking rule and I'm like this yeah but even with the rule I think it's wrong. I think Lecombe was there first So fucking you're dumb and this rule is dumb And then we're all dumb. I'm dumb fucking A. So that's why I'm saying It doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:57:24 Because here's the thing. I think it was icing. What the fuck do I know? Vegas fans are all going to say It was an icing because you're a biased dipshit. And Ducks fans are going to say it was because they're biased dipships. These things don't matter. It's like the pasta O T.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Yeah. These things do not fucking. Well, that one is crazy because if you think that that was offside, you are actually blind. this one is you know I think this way you think that way who fucking cares the play went on
Starting point is 00:57:52 everyone on the ice knew the play was going on and Vegas made a better play than Anahe so they fucking scored and they won the game that's that there's no point in complaining about I think this could be just what they needed and I'm dead ass I like that because dude sometimes in playoffs you're always dude unless you're rolling
Starting point is 00:58:10 the playoffs are a grind even even a five gamer can feel like an absolute I mean look at King's Rangers Cup. A five gamer can feel like a grind game of inches. Don't even get me started on six, seven. But when you lose a playoff game, I actually love when you can get pissed about something, where you feel like you got jobbed a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I know some people react poorly to that and it maybe messes their future game up. But for me, it was always easier to go, instead of going, man, they just fucking waxed us. It's so easier for you. me to go, those fuckers, like, that should have been fucking icing. We'd be in overtime.
Starting point is 00:58:49 We would have won that game. They're fucking jokes. Yeah, we would have won if it wasn't for the bullshit scenario. It somehow fires me up more because I'm like, we will beat them now. Like they stink. They owe us one. Fuck you, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:01 So I think the ducks go into that being like, that's horseshit. That was a clear icing. And we should be in overtime where we've won games already in overtime this season and this playoff and we would have been fine. So that's my mentality. in that locker room. Speaking of mentality in the locker room,
Starting point is 00:59:17 he's too good a player to let this matter. But I feel for Jackson Lecombe right now because it was essentially him on the open net, him on the icing, him letting it go over his stick at the blue. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, God. Like, I'm sure he's,
Starting point is 00:59:32 no one's more mad at himself than him, but that sucks. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely like, motherfucker, didn't have one tonight. But then again, at the same time, he's like top three in points in the playoffs. And he is, for the first time in what feels like, his career, the entire hockey world is going, wait a minute, is this guy one of the best players in the league?
Starting point is 00:59:49 And the answer is yes. So he's going to be fine. Yep. Yeah, yeah, he's golden. And like you said, after the empty net miss, as his whole team told him, you know, they're like, we're good, we're good. So yeah, man, that was a great game. I didn't think the ducks were at a blowout Vegas. That wasn't a scenario in my mind coming into this game.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I was worried Vegas would blow out the ducks. Yeah. And I couldn't be happier that we got such a great one. And with the ducks throwing haymakers, truly, the ducks were not afraid at all of the moment of the team of anything. And in many scenarios, they win that exact game. Yeah. Will you just look at this clip of the icing and tell me it doesn't look like the most blatant
Starting point is 01:00:32 icing of all time? Yeah, you know what's even crazier about it? Just watch the clip in real time. He's miles ahead of him. His stick is miles ahead of him. I don't get it. And all the freeze frames that people are trying to use in defense of Vegas, I don't get either. Well, then, here's my favorite part.
Starting point is 01:00:48 They say, and again, I love Dave, but Dave and presumably the refs are saying Jack would beat him. He literally doesn't. I know. It's not even a, we don't have to have a hypothetical here. They didn't call it icing. So who beat, who got to the puck first? It's very strange. They go, Lecombe did.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And I'm like, okay, so that is icing. It is very, very strange. But again, in addition to the like, oh, man, this is so brutal. it's like Lecombe turns the puck And I think the argument would be When Lecombe touches it You can see he doesn't really put anything on I think he's just like and that's ice
Starting point is 01:01:21 And it's not But instead he just passes it straight to a Vegas player And I think he's then like what the fuck What are you doing? And even the Truba asleep I think a lot of that is him going like this Anyway that's icing Oh no no no by then they're fully playing
Starting point is 01:01:32 Like Truba even In this clip right here He pivots positions in front of the net And he's scanning Yeah yeah okay Sorry Trubes I tried to help you up there I don't know why I just sewer You're right. No, he thought it was over.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Jesus Christ. All right. Well, huge game from Vegas. Love to see it. Love to see a win on home ice always. Yes. What do we got tonight? Okay, so this will be Tuesday. Yep. Tuesday night when you're listening to this. I feel like I always catch you off guard with this.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Instead, I'll just go, I will tell you. One game. We have one game. And it's the drunkenest game of all time. Wild Avalanche in Colorado. Best series. We hope. Round two, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Keep coming. Keep them coming. Best series of round two. So we'll be dialed into that and then we'll be live Wednesday morning. Talking about the madness. Unbelievable stuff. All right, folks, that's going to do it for us. We love you.
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