Empty Netters Podcast - Panthers vs Hurricanes / Oilers vs Stars: The NHL Conference Finals Predictions | EP.195

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

The conference finals are here and we have some juicy rematches on our hands. The Rantanen revenge tour is on the table. The panthers could be the first repeat champions since Pittsburgh. The Oilers want their redemption and the Canes want their respect. Plus, the beer league hotline is genius NEW EPISODES EVERY TUESDAY & THURSDAY! PRESENTED by BetMGM. Download the BETMGM app and use code “NETTERS” and enjoy up to $1500 in bonus bets if you lose your first wager! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: DOLLAR SHAVE CLUB. Dollar Shave Club products are now available everywhere, so you can order from their website, Amazon, or get them at your favorite retailer near you. Visit their site right now for 20% off $20 or more, and get your products delivered right to your door. Visit http://www.dollarshaveclub.com/netters and use promo code NETTERS for 20% off $20 or moreZ BIOTICS. Go to https://zbiotics.com/NETTERS and use NETTERS at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics.”00:00 INTRO00:29 NOT ICE24:23 CANES/CATS47:11 OILERS/STARS1:14:19 BEER LEAGUE HOTLINE1:22:18 BLIND RANKING Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A huge factor for this Dallas team, you got to believe. You got to believe you can beat this team that your guys are doing their jobs right and you can get past them. And you want revenge from losing to them in the Western Conference Final last year. But the problem is the Oilers will accept nothing less than the Stanley Cup championship. Connor McDavid is not going to get this close again after what happened last year. They didn't come this far to only get this far. Ice is ready. And we are back with another episode of the MT Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM.

I am your host, Dan Powers, sitting next to me, a man who wears more bracelets than a girl in a Taylor Swift concert, Chris Powers. As always. Look at this one. God, I hate it. Look at that. Can you see this? pathetic. That's a girl's bracelet. That's a girl's bracelet from a Taylor Swift concert.

You are a huge bummer. Can I try that girl again? Yeah. I feel like I don't know how to get it. Actually, I'd prefer if you didn't. Okay. It was creepy. It was weird and I didn't like it.

As always. That sounds like a high school, middle school girl who's going through some change. I almost made a crazy joke. You kind of made it anyway, so we're already dead. I didn't mean it like that, you son of a bitch. We're already dead. Why do you, why are those? I don't want to hear them.

Okay. I just, you've got. Good question, Dan. Good question, Dan. Good question, Dan. Really good question, Dan. The big... I wanted more of a general answer.

I didn't want the rundown of each one, you fucking idiot. That's what I meant. Like, why don't you take the multiple hair ties off your wrist? You don't have long hair enough for hair ties. I don't? No. Yeah, I do.

Take them off. No. You look like a fucking twat. I don't like... I don't know why I'm coming at you so hard. This is so... Shocker. This is, I think literally this is...

When you can't, when there's not a literal line between your arm and your wrist and you can't quite tell when it's no longer arm and it's now hand, I think that is actually like gross. I think I have a phobia about that. That looks so disgusting. You've said this take to me before and I think it's bizarre. I think I look like a hooved animal. Do you think maybe it's the fact that you have little dainty girl wrists and you're a bit embarrassed by it? As always. Do you think that's it?

Maybe. And that's why I wear bracelets. That's why I wear girl bracelets. Why don't you do some more workouts, wrist workouts? Wrist workouts? Yeah. Like what? You grab a dumbbell and you put your arm across the bench,

a light dumbbell, and you go like this. That's forearm. It's wrist, too. That's forearm. Yeah, wrist. That's forearm. It's both. It's grip strength stuff.

That pumps up your wrists. So you think if it went like this, arm, arm, arm, arm, arm, wrist, hand. I'd be like, yes. That's cool. No bracelet needs. That would never happen. You would not all of a sudden have wrist. Wrinkles.

Wrist? No, wrankle. That's an ankle. So it's calf and ankle. So it's forearm into ankle. Wrists, so fists. No, no, it's wrist. So forearm into wrists. So fists. Fists. I have fists. Wait, I have fists. That's what these are. That's what they've been the whole time. Fuck. That's not what would happen. You just get bigger arms. Wrist. It's like the quagmire. Yeah, yeah. You can watch things online. Yes, there you go. That's exactly what it is. You could lose some of them. Yeah, maybe. Maybe not. Why don't you take off the hair ties right now? No. No. You're unbelievable.

The conference finals are set, brother. Yeah, they are. We're going to do some previews this episode. Yeah, we are. Are you psyched? I am psyched. I said the other day, I'm kind of surprised that we have the rematch from last year on the West and the rematch from two years ago in the East.

That was almost the rematch from last year again. Yeah, true. There hasn't been a lot of parody. All these teams, have been sniffing. I would hear the argument that there's not enough change, but I love a rematch. I like one. I like one. I love a rematch. I love

sequels. But I do love a trilogy, too. Yeah, trilogies are great, sequels are great. I like, horrid. I like, sometimes I like movies that have ten. Wow. This is, we didn't even plan this transition. I know. But we did want to talk about Mission Impossible, because I was going to say

I'm excited about this, but I'm also excited that there's a little bit of less hockey on, which means I have time to do more of my other interests. Watch a movie. Watch a movie for once. Improved wrist strength. Excited to go see a movie.

Excited to watch a movie on my laptop. And I'm very, yeah, an independently produced one. With lesser-known actors. But who are stars. In their own right? Yep. Who are shining stars. Yeah.

Glistening. They're so hot. They're so hot and sweaty. I am. pumped to see Final Reckoning. Same. And that

I was supposed to say quickly, not quickly, slowly but surely, has become just one of my favorite, it's Mission Impossible for everyone that doesn't know that, has become one of my favorite movie series ever.

Like, we'll get my butt into a theater. So I love going to the theater anyway, but we'll get my butt into the theater so fast. I could, dude, I could go, Tom Cruise could literally do those forever. That's what I'm saying.

I mean, he could be fucking 90. I'm doing Mission Impossible 23, and I'd be like, dude, I will be there. I shudder to say this. Because I love Tom. Don't care about his extracurricular activities. You need a certain church. I love him.

Dude, you'd be careful. Careful. Because we're treading in dangerous waters. I think he doesn't look the best right now. And it's his hair. He's older. He needs to turn. He appears to be naturally aging very well.

Or did. Yeah, why don't you give it to him? Let's give him a tie. You dingus. When you get older, I don't think the long, kind of messy, sloppy hair looks good. You got to clean it up. And he doesn't look great right now with his current hair. I'm going to try to get some pics.

He needs to clean it up. Try to get some picks. Oh, it is long. But Ethan has long hair. That's the thing. But he doesn't need to. Yeah, you're right. They can just have the character cut his hair.

Do you want to quickly rank the Mission Impossible movies? Yes. Yes, I do. Yeah, if he cut it a little bit. But it's not, I don't want it too short. Get off the hair. Sorry. Let's rank the Mission Impossible movies. Let's have some fun here and not ice. Okay.

How do you want to do this? There are currently seven. Yeah, this is eight, right? Gasth. That's right. This would be the eighth. It better not be the last. It better not be the last.

I think it probably is with Tom. I don't think so. Okay. Okay, seventh. Do you want to go like what you have at seventh and then say the movie? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. I don't think we need to do the same time.

Yeah. We do everything else. Okay, seventh, I bet we have the same. I have Mission Impossible, too. Me too. John Woo directed, kind of corny. Yeah. I believe this came out in 2000, so a few years after Mission Impossible One.

I like barely remember the plot of that one. What happens in two? Two is Thandi Newton. Oh, yeah. It's really good action. I think the action ramps up in this one. But it's just kind of corny. It comes as close to,

I don't like this movie as it can get, but I do, I enjoy it still. When I do marathons, I'll still watch it. You don't skip it is what you're saying. No, God, no. Whereas there are other, there are a series that I really love. I'll drop one on you, dude. Fast and the Furious.

Yeah, I skip some. I mean, I hate to say it, buddy, those movies got bad. No. Yes, they sure did. No, no, no, no. Nope, they sure did. I love them still. But they're not good.

They jumped the shark. They jumped the tank into space or whatever. You couldn't tell me. I don't know what the expression is for them. You couldn't tell me with a gun to your head what the hell happens in the last two of those movies. The one with Jason Momoa and the one. Yeah, I could.

No, you could. Yeah, I could. We're not going to go. Watch this. Hey, you ready for an entire, this podcast is now ruined. Are you ready for an entire play-by-play recap of the Jason Mamoa fast? I'm going to give you a forum to do this next episode. But listen to me.

You just opened a fucking can of worms. Listen to you have opened Pandora's. fucking G5 fucking uh give me a sick car I don't know anything about cars you just opened Pandora's Shelby Mustang

hood you went American that's all I can think of yeah what is Dom drive he drives I think like a GT yeah he just opened Pandora's GT hood dude fuck you Knoz Klaus

okay playing for pink slips you can do that other time we're talking to Mission Impossible Okay okay so I don't skip it but yeah it's a little corny not my not my favorite yep now it gets interesting what is number six what is your sixth your second least favorite mission impossible j j abrams's mission impossible three oh great philip seymour hoffman

villain i know uh and let's be honest j j jay brought it back to form to an extent but j j j's a little like he's i feel like he's just more of a tv guy if i'm being totally honest and sometimes There are some moments in this where I'm like, this feels like a TV series. Yeah. But Philip was great. Ethan Hawk was back after like a six-year hiatus. And it was like, we're back. Mission Impossible's back.

Okay. I would have, I'm actually shocked that you had, I thought you would have three a little higher. Yeah, no, it's my second. I have three there as well for a thing I'm going to say in a second, because I'll tell you, I'll roll this right into what I have six. Okay. three is such a great turn and I would say rarely do we see a two be bad and then a three be good some some truly like two is like the best one usually if you lose it at two you're they're all

bad you're off the rails and sometimes they're good still at two and then three's bad like hunger games I would say rarely what about what about Thor goes one and too bad which is extremely rare one's okay two is bad Thor's the closest to that three is phenomenal isn't did that good three's phenomenal yeah so I rarely do I think you see a very good one of very bad two and then three, though, like, we fixed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. I bet some people would argue the new Star Wars trilogy is like that, even though I completely disagree.

I'm starting to think we made at the exact same ranking here. No way. But three is fun, but I still have it here. And I have Mission Impossible one. Next. Okay, I don't have that. And the only reason I have that one, and normally I thought you would be surprised to hear me say that

because even though JJ is such a TV guy, he's such a more of my speed guy than De Palma. De Palma's crazy. De Palma's got the fucking horror push-ins. and all this scary movie going on. Mission Impossible is a borderline scary movie. Yes. So normally I would have that lower

because I am not a horror guy at all. But one is more pure spy. Like he's a spy, you know? Because this was our answer to Bond, dude. Okay. So I have Mission Impossible 4, as in 4th on my list. Mission Impossible 1. And I have it 5.

Yeah. I have it 4 because of that. It's a true espionage. Yeah, yeah, it's an espionage movie. And espionage is sick. And I like those a lot. So this one was like something I really liked, but something I don't like. Yeah.

It's dark. It's intense. And it started it all. So yeah, that's fourth. My fifth. This might blow your mind. My fifth. So I go two, three.

My next one's Dead Reckoning. You have that. The most, the second to most recent installment, you could say. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. It's my four. Is, okay. I'm going off. Yeah.

I was very let down by this movie. Only because the expectations were so high. I don't even think they were. Fallout kind of ended a beautiful story. And I was like, okay, what next? Yeah. I didn't even have that high of expectations. It was more just our form was so quality.

Class. Dude. We were in a class one. Class, class, class. And I think, here's my thing. Gabriel stinks, bad villain. Yeah. They tried to pull the Ethan's greatest adversary.

And we're like, what? Wrong. Who is this guy? Wrong. The entity is too much. They gave it too much power. AI. And no offense to Haley Atwell.

You're lovely. You're lovely. But also, the plot and the writing just did. They were like, and here's this common pickpocket who Ethan's in love with. And I'm like, get, eat my shorts, pal. Get out of here. Dude, if. So that's my, that is my fifth.

If, I thought they so beautiful. beautifully took a character who had a wife who had to give it up like Spider-Man style, you know, and then let him fall in love with someone else, Rebecca Ferguson, who is lovely. Yep. And they did that so beautifully that you're not left thinking Ethan is a dick. I hate Rebecca Ferguson because I'm so obsessed with first love. Like everyone is happy in that. And to maybe kill her, you think maybe not, but maybe kill her and just be like,

anyway, in the next movie and a half, you're going to have to buy that Tom Cruise falls in love with a close-up magician. And she's going like this. See this red ball? See this red ball? Not great. How many red balls are in your hand? He opens it up and 20 pop out and they go and then among the red balls is a ring and she goes, boom, will you marry me? And he goes, yes. And roll credits. And I go, no, pass. The entity, the entity was it for me even more though. That was, we were coming off. She's not good. I'm going to go out on the limb here. and say that R321 is exactly the same. I don't know.

I guarantee one's the same. Yeah, of course. Is it in order of release? Is Rogue Nation number four? No, that's Ghost Proats. Ghost Proats is number four? Then, yes, mine is in order. Yeah, me too.

Okay, so we're going, 321 is Ghost Protocol, Rogue Nation, Fallout. And they are three, my friend? Damn near perfect action movies. The Fallout is... Fallout is a perfect action movie. It's a perfect action movie. Maybe the best action movie ever made. Can we just...

Dude. Ghost Protocol. Brad Bird directed. Yep. And this began an elite run. Yeah. Dude, we got Simon Pegg injected into this. Oh, dude.

We got Paula Patton, being one of the sexiest human beings who's ever lived in this movie. We got Sawyer from Lost up in here for a minute. And we got my girl, Leia Seidoo. Yep. Unbelievable. Also, we got Renner.

Dude, with a sick arc. Sick arc. That was actually... We get Renner injected into these movies. He's like, do we trust him? Do we not trust him? What's his deal? Then it turns out that he's just forever been living his life

trying to make up for his mistake, but it turns out it wasn't a mistake. Sick twist. Then, dude, like double twist there. Double twist. Double twist, like a twisty cone. Then we get Rogue Nation. Introduction of CEMAC.

Chris McCurry. Yes, dude. And one of the great... Also, in Rogue Nation, too, I believe, actually, no, I think, I, yeah, I think Rogue Nation began the, and every single movie, there's some crazy Tom stunt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like this one was the hanging off the side of the plane. Dude, that's Ghost Protocol. No, no, Ghost Protocol is the fucking Dubai building. Yes, but was that, I don't know if that was like a crazy practical stunt.

I think he was on a bill. I think he was running. But this one, he's literally hanging off the side of a plane as it takes off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we get that. We get return of Renner. Renner's now on the team. man now, dude. And, dude, talking about my girl, Laysedu. Let's be honest, my true girl, my ultimate all-time crush. Rebecca Ferguson. Dude. Ilsa Faust.

Amazing. Unbelievable introduction. And we get Solomon Lane. Yes. Is that when you first really interact with him? This is like the real Solomon Lane. Rogue Nation. Yeah. Yeah. And Solomon Lane is a all-time movie villain, in my opinion. Dude, ghost protocol is awesome. I actually kind of forgot Renner, that's where you get that big Renner story. And where does Alec Baldwin become the boy?

Rogue Nation. Rogue Nation. So he's already on our side there. Yes. I think he like starts not on our side. Yeah, well, yeah, he comes around in the end. Oh, oh, sorry. In Rogue Nation, you're saying.

So in six. No, Rogue Nation's five. Five that fallout. Oh, oh, Dead Reckoning, seven. Yeah, yeah. Rogue Nation's five. So in five, it goes protocol in four, Alec Baldwin isn't really on our side. I don't think he's in the movie.

He isn't even in it. No. Okay. In the very beginning, we actually see them in a, like they're like discussing with the CIA about MI or whatever the fuck they call, or call them. And yeah, he comes around in the end. IMF, yeah, Jesus. Sorry, I'm crossing. I'm crossing.

I'm an idiot. IMF is being discussed with the CIA. And yeah, at the end, he comes around. And then, yes, fallout. We get fucking a cabble with the double-com. We're all in on Ilsa Faust in this movie. It's just everything is just fucking fantastic. It's perfect.

Solomon Lane is such a good villain. And we get the return of Bridget Moynihan. Yes, dude. It's the third act. The third act when you have Tom in the helicopter chase, and then you've got Pegg and I think Ilsa fighting Solomon, and then Bridget Moynihan and Vin defusing the bomb, is one of the greatest, not to nerd out for movies,

but one of the greatest third act structures I've ever seen in my whole life where you have three incredible things happening, all with their own ticking clock. We're just amazing. I want to say Rogue Nation, he does that underwater scene where he like jumps through the thing that's like spinning,

and then he's like trying to replace the disc underwater. Awesome. Which one is it, which one does he go to the Kremlin? Rogue Nation. Ghost Protocol. There's, I love that scene when they're pushing the screen

towards the security guys. That was kind of, Rogue Nation started a lot of the really cool gadgets. Yes. We always had the masks. Yep. But we saw some really cool gadgets in the beginning there. And then Fallout.

What's your favorite part of Fallout? I mean, the Skydive stunt is so epic, and that's an incredible scene. Yeah. But I feel like there's another crazy, like, gadget. The Halo Jump is nasty. The bathroom fights. It's one of the great fights scenes of all time. God, dude.

Fallout was so fucking good. Yeah. That movie's so sick. I heard Final Reckoning's pretty sick. I have two. We're going to see it this week. Yep. It's going to be fantastic.

Before we move on to hot ice, I do want to just quickly Diddy Trial update because I promise weekly Did he trial update? There's not that much to report.

Honestly, we have waived bye-bye to Cassie Ventura. She's finished. All I'm going to say is this. I really have three things to say here. Okay, I'll kind of let you take the lead then. I don't like where we are, guys.

I really don't. I don't think the evidence against Diddy that has been presented is compelling enough. I want the meat. We are barely getting appetizers here. I want shit to pop off in a big way soon, and the fact that we're a week through, and really, I have not been moved. Dude, so I will say that... But let me be very clear

the fact that there is video evidence of him being an absolute piece of shit and beating people. That is enough for me to put him away, but you know what I'm saying. From what we've heard, paying Cassie $20 million and the fact that victim three is literally missing is enough to put him away. You're going to jail. The trial is over. These are the three things I have. One person who has been called so far is David James, who was a former personal assistant to Diddy. And again, a lot of these people aren't victims that are going to be called. So it's going to be like security guards and people that were in the orbit that are ready to talk. And this killed me, dude. When David James began his testimony, crying, I might add, he said, describing his hiring

process to become Diddy's personal assistant. An executive at Bad Boy Entertainment told him, quote, this is Mr. Combs' kingdom and we are all here to serve in it. Dude. Like, what are we doing here? What, dude? Like that is, what are we actually doing here? That is so bat shit movies.

Like, that's movie shit, dude. What is happening? The other thing I'm devastated about, and shout out Cat Tafoli, because I know she was extremely excited about this. because another woman that testified so far was Don Richard, who was part of that. Danity Kane. Danity Kane. And another person who was going to testify was Aubrey O'Day, who was also in Danity Kane.

And she's very outspoken on the show, on the reality show. And there's been so many fights. She actually comes back to the group, gets kicked out of the group again. It's horrible. And she posted that she was in New York, and she's made many comments about this trial's bittersweet because she's been speaking the truth about Diddy's abuse for 20 years. and she was so vocal on the show that I was like, oh my God, if Aubrey O'Day is one of the victims that's coming forward,

then she's going to be on stand for five weeks, and we're going to get everything. And then now she's like, oh, I'm actually not testifying. I'm just here in New York. I'm actually, I'm not one of the witnesses, which leads me, which is devastating, and leads me into my third and final point, which is exactly your point, Dan.

So far, this is a disaster, in my opinion, because they said that Cassie was their, star, star witness and, and hopefully, because literally victim three is missing, that's not a joke, hopefully two more victims are coming, but none of this, this sounds so horrible, but none of this like,

a victim speaks and then a bunch of her friends speak and go, I saw him hit her, I think he's going to do the trick. It's awful, but it's not going to do the trick. Because the other lawyers are good, dude, and they're just fucking saying shit, they're making you look dumb, and they're making you say, like,

oh, I was just jealous, and everybody was a victim here, everybody was hitting everybody, and blah, blah, blah, he said, she said. And I'm like, fuck. We need it to turn way up. Yep. And now we are going to turn up into our playoff previews after a quick break.

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it's available on our YouTube, Spotify right now. You can get the breakdowns of those games. We're not going to waste any time on those. We're going to get right into this fucking series. We've got the defending champs. Cats just took down the Leafs in seven in humiliating fashion. Yes. Playing the canes who have lost two games.

Christ, is that true? They've only lost two games in these players. That's crazy. I can't even think about that. Yeah. Okay. We're going to count three. And then is that the one?

wide camera, wags, that's the wide camera, right? So, Dan, on three, we're going to... Someone said,

hold up a bore, we can't just throw up. I know, but I am going to throw up fingers about what it is. And then we will say it separately, so everyone watching on YouTube, you'll get to see that we're not cheating.

And then, well, for the Spotify app, listeners, you'll find out in two seconds later. And to be very clear, yeah, these predictions are not necessarily who either of us are rooting for.

It's just, what we think might happen. Yeah, this has nothing to do with allegiance. And I'll say as well, we talked about the Stars Jet series being brutal. Oh, to Brutal to pick. We just love both these teams and the fan bases. I feel the same way here. Yep.

I love both these teams. We've got friends on both teams. Also, the Keynes fans, the Canes community. Oh, but. I feel like we went into, I think it was round two. it was round two and I was like you guys are fun I know you're fun let's see the fun come out also sick cane shirts that we just launched so canes fans make sure to check those out hit the link in our bio we got merch we got merch coming out of our ass you'll see it yeah yeah yeah get this sweatshirt

bang get the rink rats but god I love all these these I love everyone involved so this is brutal for me so yeah this is just we we have to make a pick so here we go um I don't even know what the fuck I'm gonna say dude okay uh okay I'm ready I guess it's going to be weird because we're still going to overlap on the team. Actually. Come on, we got to go. We got to go. We got to go.

Ready? Ready? Yep. All right. One, two, three. Cats and seven. Cains and seven. It was always going to be seven.

I love both these teams. I love both these teams. I'm going to just pray to God. We get seven games because I just want to watch both these teams play the whole time. But I made my bed. I'm on the cats bandwagon And I can't in good conscious Pick Cains in 7 here

Even if that maybe is what I want I'm not saying it's what I want I'm just saying no matter what I'm in bed But I'm also in bed with the Cains I love them I know and they've been so nice I feel like I'm in every fucking hype video

That they post Yeah And I am actually rattled now I should have said If I was gonna go Cains I feel like I almost should have said Cains in 6 Because I feel so strongly about Matthew Cichuk's comments

Where it's like if it goes 7 We will grind you down Yeah So, and since that game six would be in Carolina, I'm almost, er, would it? No, it wouldn't. Yes, it would. I believe so. Not game six, right?

Panthers were the three seed. I think Carolina has homies. That's what I'm saying. Oh, I'm sorry, sorry. Game six would be in Carolina. Yeah, so that would be in Florida a tough place to play. But the, but yeah, I almost, I'm actually scared of it going seven. Sorry, if you're, if you're a game seven would be in Carolina.

If you're a cane's better, you're scared of it going seven, I think. You want to get this done and not give them a chance to just stay all over you. I mean, it's going to be such an interesting matchup to see here. I mean, dude, Matthew. Yeah, go ahead. I know. I like it. Let me do this.

Here's, and I want you to participate. Okay, because we both just predicted a seven game series. Here's how the Cains, here's how the Carolina Hurricanes win this series. Yep. If, and I actually mean this, most importantly, the crisp white, whitish green. head of lettuce that is Freddie Anderson. Mr. Anderson. Mr. Anderson.

Mr. Anderson. He's an agent. He's an agent sent to protect the Matrix, which is the Raleigh Triangle of hockey. Well, no, he's not an agent. No, he hates the Matrix. No, he's protecting the agent. The agent speak to Mr. Anderson.

He is the one. Oh, yeah, Mr. Anderson. Yeah, yeah. He's the one. He's Neo. And the agents of Florida. Okay. Hey.

Okay. Good job. You're back on you. The agents of Florida are here to kill him and push him back into the Matrix. But dude, he's now seen the numbers. He's seeing in zeros and ones and twos because that's the only amount of goals he'll ever let up in a single game. Ever. He doesn't see threes, Dan.

He doesn't see fours anymore. He's the one. If he can stay fresh and keep these games low scoring, trust the D in front of him, trust the Allfather who plays defense for the Carolina Hurricanes. And don't let the Panthers go on these flurries that the least. Leafs were susceptible to, bang, you close your eyes, you wake up, it's three goals and you're living in a nightmare. If the, if the Canes back end can do that, I think that that's how they get past this Florida team, not trying to outscore them, not trying to boat race them, just play,

I mean, I guess I have to say it, play your boring hockey and just get the job done. Because that's how these games have gone pretty much every game they've played in the playoffs, where you go, well, it was a two, they barely beat the devils. They barely beat the caps. Another two one game. And I'm like this, but dude, check the letter of the alphabet next to every single one of those games. It's a W.

Every fucking time. So that's exactly what I think I need from them. And it really does for me, Dan Hinge, on Iceberg, at least leveling up or leveling out Bob. Right? I'm not even saying he has to violently outplay Bob. I'm just saying if Bob is like, I'm the man again and Freddie's like,

pockets around three. Yeah. And the lettuce is going a little brown on the tips. And I go, get it in the crisper. Get it in the crisper, dude, right now. Spin it. Spin it. Spin it. Swin that salad. Wash it, dude. Spin that salad. Bring it right back. Yeah. I think that's maybe it. That's your key to victory. I think that's the key. And then, you know, you need a little bit. You guys got to go, obviously, but I think there's not even a guy, credit to Florida, I was spread out there, but it's not even like you go, just slow down a rain. You know, like, well, let me get into something for you. Yeah. Number one, if Frederick Anderson, I don't know if he's a listener of the pot, if not Jarvie, tell him to.

If he doesn't have a white rabbit on his helmet somewhere, that's a huge mistake. Fuck, dude. Or a spoon. Bent. He should have a spoon with the phrase, there is no spoon on his helmet, because he is Mr. Anderson. He is the one. I got to pull up his mask right now. Now, let me ask you another question.

You talk about there, there's no guy that you need to shut. down, right? I think that's their game. I think the Carolina Hurricanes don't need one man. They need a team. They are a pack of wolves. Name three forwards on that team that you would say, if the Carolina Hurricanes are going to be successful, I need these guys to get going. Name three forwards. Three guys on the Carolina Hurricanes? You would be like, if I said, you need three guys, or just name three that come to mind that would need to be buzzing in order for this team to be successful in the playoffs. You need Svetnikov to be scoring, literally goals, not even points. I don't need you to go into, just give me three names. Setschnikov, Jarvie, and Ahio. They're three leading point

scores in these playoffs. Sebastian Ahho, three goals, seven assists, ten points in ten games. Seth Jarvis, four goals, six, assess, ten points, and ten games. Andre Svetichikov, eight goals, one assist, nine points in ten games. They're doing it. Yep. What they need, To be successful, is Freddie Iceberg being fresh as a head of lettuce? He is. And they need their guys to do their job. Not necessarily overperform, not underperform, do their job. Those are the three names I would have at the top of my list.

They're going. And you got ghost buzzing. You got playoff Halsey buzzing, six and ten. Martinuk is going. Stankovin's got three goals. They are a pack of wolves. They're a team that works as a unit. and when they work as a unit together, apes together.

Strong, strong. And Dan, think about this. I do feel as though they are a storm in a way, right? Like the storm, the storm swirls all around. And they don't discriminate where the destruction comes from. This side of the storm, this side of the storm, this side of the storm, this side of the storm, that side of the storm. The storm moves as a unit everywhere it goes. It doesn't shoot out.

And that's exactly how they've been rolling through this playoffs, like a unit, like a storm. So I think they keep that up and they're going to be in a moment. really, really, really good shape. And I'll give you one more thing. The Keynes win this series if they get, I want to say the bounces, the brakes in the really tight games. Because as much fun as we make of Rod for that quote two years ago, they just didn't get breaks in wicked close games.

That's why he made that funny lie. And dude, to circle it back to Mission Impossible and what we were just talking about, you are right, this team is a unit. and they are moving together, swirling together like a storm. And to quote, fallout, there is the code word where that delivery man approaches Ethan Hunt. Yeah, the very beginning, right? And he says, fate whispers to the warrior, you cannot withstand the storm. To which Ethan says, I am the storm.

That's the hurricanes. Dude, the hurricanes are Ethan Hunt. The Hurricanes are Ethan Hunt and this is the final reckoning, dude. You cannot get back to the Eastern Conference Finals with an 0-8 record and not make the next step. This is the final reckoning.

Yeah. It's, this is what they need. You ask, what does this team need to do to win? I think they're doing it. And if they keep it up, they've got a shot. Now, I ask to you, what do the Panthers need to do to win

because there's a chance that they're doing it too. Right. These are going to be absolute tilts. For me, the Panthers I would argue slightly that they could get a

few more guys going. There are little oilers to me in that and this is a strength, so hear me out. But the oilers every time I look up, Henrique's scoring, and Yanmark's scoring and Connor Brown scoring. And every time I look up in the Panthers,

it's like they had five D men score today. And then the third line is the best line in hockey. All things vital to win a Stanley Cup. Congratulations. I do think to make it all the way, though, at some point, your big guys got to eat. The big cats got a feast on the raw meat. And I would love, if I'm a Panthers fan,

a few more Carter-Hagie goals, a few more Matthew Cichukhulls. How did the Panthers win this series? those two get hot. Even Reiner, how many goals does Reiner have? He only has four, right? Yeah, Rhino has, uh, actually, wait on, I got it right here. I think he's got four.

Yeah, four and seven for a one. So how do the Panthers win the series? Those three guys? Because you just listed Svecci, Ah, Jarvi. It's right where you expect to see him. Uh, third in points for Rhino, but like, Rhino third could chuck, uh, sixth, Verhegey, eight in points for the boys. And I'm like, if I can get those two hot, three, sorry, those three hot,

you're looking fantastic. If Bob plays, I thought Bob's been great since period three of game three against the Leafs, I think he's been great. I wish I had his stat breakdown. If you get that Bob, if that Bob here to say, we waved bye-bye to Bob a while ago. Bob came back. He said, here's a postcard from Cancun, bitch. It was fine.

I was there for two days. And now I'm back. And I'm a little hungover. He had to replenish the fluids. You know how much weight he loses every game. he had to go eat some tacos and have a couple marks sugar marks yeah put on some pounds i actually think the reality was he was losing his tan yep because he was playing in florida and tampa he was fine yeah he was sunda than every day then he had to go up to fucking he sent him to toronto he was

losing the tan and he said bob you're russian and he said when's the last time do you think i was in russia give me a break some some numbers to throw at you here yeah you are right the big boys aren't necessarily going but we want to talk about teams that work as a union unit, this one as well. You've got five guys with 10 or more points through 12 games on this team. But they're big dogs. Guess who is leading this team in points in the playoffs, pal? On the Panthers? God, I don't bet it. 37-year-old Brad Marshand. Is he really? Yep. In points? He is leading this team in points in the playoffs. Through 12 games, he has three goals and nine assists for 12 points.

You know who's second? His liney. Luster Rainin. Yeah, fuck. Three goals, nine. assist 12 points through 12 games and guess what the two of them both plus 11 yeah yeah wow they're there they're they're centermen they'll uh four goals six assists 10 points in 12 games plus nine that line is killing teams yep killing teams we said it this morning on the live they they won that series so you talk about matchups Carolina matches up really well Jordan Stahl gets brought up all the time You're putting Jordan Stahl Against anyone that Dick Carolina wants

But often against a second or a third line Maybe that's going to be your kind of gritty scoring line And you're like, wait, I'm going against this fucking guy This vacuum cleaner? Fuck. You kidding me? Change his name to fucking Jordan Dyson. And all of a sudden

You've got a really tough task And now you're getting your Barkov line Going against maybe a more favorable matchup You're getting your Bennett-Kechuk for Hagee line going up against a more favorable matchup. This team has a lot of performers. I mean, you've got Erod, who's missed a couple of games here. He's coming back in, but I mean, I'm going all the way down.

Down to Verhege, four and four, eight points. Cichuk has nine. Bennett has nine. Lundell has ten. Like I said, Barkoff has ten. Reinhard has 11. They're still going. They're not asleep, but they're not awake.

Yep. They're in limbo. And you know what's it? They're sleep. They're day walking. This is such a good call by you, Dan. Here's something that could really be a factor for the Panthers. Barkoff. I know in Lundell did a ton of this, but either way, however you want to look at it,

those guys are often tasked with shutting down, not often. They're always tasked with shutting down the best line. And that usually is someone nasty. They're like, hey, go get McDavid, go get Kuthorov, go get Matthews, Marner, Willie, you know, whatever.

You know, the canes, dude, and we just credited them for this and their unitness, Sebastian Aho leads the team with 74 points in the regular season.

Jarvie 67, second. Do you know who's third on their team in points this year? The Canes, third on their team and points. No, NACCHUS in 49 games. Oh, my God.

Then Svetchnikov. And I'm like, so think about how maybe, think about how maybe unleashed a barcoff might be like when you're not when you're not seeing that much production from a barcoff yeah and you go well don't forget he's been chasing kutroff around all night now and no offense to these kane's guys because i love half of them and they're they're good players but they're not like oh my god it's connor mc david coming and so now maybe you're getting a little bit more out

of a barcoff yeah and that whole line because he's a little bit more freed up that's interesting and here's another one for you dan the canes pk uh number one pk in the regular season currently number one in the playoffs, 93.3% kill, kill rate. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot, power plays mean nothing. Fuck you. Panthers, very bad power play so far in the playoffs. 10th in the league of all the playoff teams, down to 20.5%. So worst power play versus best penalty kill. If the Panthers power play is irrelevant, which happened to teams in the conference finals last year, that is a way that the, if the status quo holds, that is a way that the canes will win. If the Panthers power play can crack that weapon of the canes, that is a way that

the cats can win. Absolutely. What do you think of the two questions we asked, what do they need to do? What do they need to do? What's harder? Who has the harder? No, it's not not, I mean, I think we broke that down. I think my question is going to be, what do you think is the number one thing that the canes need to do differently of all the things we said? Maybe not differently. What's the emphasis point for each team? Good question. Like, what's the uncomfortable thing that has to happen, right? Okay, yeah, for me, the uncomfortable thing that has to happen is the canes need to score more. They need to be able to be like, okay, we can win a four or three game.

Like the cats are hard to stop, dude. And if the canes are like, fuck, we're down. I mean, bro, do the canes, have they scored, not counting empty netters? I don't want to go back and look at every game. But I'd be curious to see how many games they've scored more than three goals if they have done that. They have, they beat the caps 5-2 in one game, right? Or was that the other way around? but I'm fairly certain.

Let me look at it right now. But I'm pretty sure that they have, they've got a couple of fivers. And, you know, that's good for me. It's like, I don't necessarily need you going above that. No, but I need the canes. The comfortable thing the canes are going to have to do is be like, yo, I will win a track meet against you,

even though Chris just said, don't do that. Can you win that game? Can you go do that? And then they were so nasty on the road, or sorry, so nasty at home this year, not as good on the road. go go and actually they've been fine in the playoffs so fuck that whatever they've been good um they had a 5-2 they won 4-0 uh against them as well uh against Washington but then a two um let's keep going here

back to round one because i bet it's pretty low in devils the devil's one wasn't that crazy um 5-4 that was the double o t oh that's a good win um but again it's five i think five is their number they beat the devils five two as well um And we've said they've been playing some... We want to talk about Dallas's path. The Kane's been playing some good goalies, that. They had a run of Markstrom-L-T. Ball.

And I'm like, are you shitting me? And then maybe, like, and if you catch an otter, I'm like, dude, those are some of the best goals. But I mean, five is like, I don't expect the team to score more than five goals. That's actually more than I thought. I think they did it. They've done it three or four times. Yep.

Can you win that game against the Panthers? To your point, other than Svetch, who has eight, the highest is Jarvie with four. So I think that might be the answer. It's like, can Halsey get going a little bit more? Can Stank get going a little bit more? Can Blakey get going a little bit more? I think two of Jarvis are empty-datters.

They've only played 10 games, right? Yeah, true. Also true. So, yeah, I do think you need an Aho three. It's like, yeah, I think that might be the answer. Maybe their guys need to get the score and pace a little bit higher to feel more comfortable. And Florida, yeah, I think it's the big boys. Now, depth wins.

it does. Yep. And ultimately, if you're Florida and maybe your top line isn't buzzing, but this third line, I mean, let's be real. Lundell, Lusto, and Marci is like a first line on another team. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, fucking, hey, whatever. If they're doing the scoring, who gives a shit? I think what we're saying is maybe not to win, but to feel more comfortable.

Because at the end of the day, neither of these teams are doing much wrong. Yeah. That's why this is going to be such a fucking crazy series. Florida needs to have better power play. That's the thing they got to figure out. They got to figure out the power play. I will say my eyeballs are focused mostly here on without a doubt. No disrespect to Washington or Jersey.

This is Carolina's first big boy test. We thought it was going to be Washington. Yep. But there's a chance. Carolina just comes in. And what have we said? They frustrate teams. the quote that I had that got clipped was they find what your team does well,

they isolate it and they eviscerate it. We'll see. Is there a world where all of a sudden they shock us and they just beat up on Florida? Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. I think this is going to be a really hard-fought series where both teams learn a lot about themselves. Yeah, you know what's funny, man. The cats have said over and over, they grind you down. They grind you down.

And I definitely think they do over the course of a series. And I would argue they do over the game, but I definitely think they do over the course of a series. But I would say that the canes grind you down in their own way, which in my opinion is, and sorry to go back to the boring well. But the way the canes grind you down is they lull you to sleep. They just play this game that's so like you go, I think I'm in this, I think I'm in this, but they're just relentlessly pushing the bolder closer. It's like a tug-of-war game.

They're just slowly pulling it closer and closer and closer. And you're like, are we dead? And I'm like, yes. I think it's a tennis player. It's a tennis player who returns everything. Yep. He's never hitting you that, I don't know, what's a crazy serve in tennis? Like 150 miles per hour, 160.

He's not the tennis player that's ripping these insane shots in the corners, painting the lines. They're just returning everything. Waiting for your unforced errors. Until you break down. You will make a mistake. We will not. Have you seen our coach?

And we'll see that. And then the big one is, I know it's game sevens, but Maurice now. six and no in game sevens and rod brindamore is oh and eight in the third round and dude not for nothing but you got a we've got to win you got to win a game like that first game is going to be actually like it's party time then right yeah yeah carolina they're at home first yeah one of those two games you gotta win one i mean game one you win baby party time you you shake off everything yep truly i don't care if you then go yeah game two one and 12 but you've won one yeah so it's like Shake it off.

Yep. So it's going to be fucking electric to see. That's a night, technically, when they're listening. Yeah, yeah, it'll be the night that you're listening. It's actually such a massive game for Carolina. Jesus Christ. Let's move on to the West. Yep.

Fucking craziness. Oilers, stars. Okay. Here we go. Same caveat as last time. Okay. Not necessarily who we're rooting for, who we're pulling for, but this is just what we are seeing in the stars. Okay.

Yeah. No punta. I am actually ready. and I don't think I'm ready. I am ready. And I, this one I am, I'll say after I make the pick. Then I'll say, you're dance flip-flop. Dance flip-flop.

It's so hard. Yeah, I don't. I can see the gears. I don't even know what to do here. I don't know if I want to pick what my heart says, what I genuinely believe, or what I'm like, well, no, it's just, this is what it's going to be. Yeah. And this sucks, and I hate every bit of it. I hate every second of it.

Um, I, I know what I have to do. Okay. Okay, ready? Do we do this live or do we want to talk about this? No, I want to just do it. All right. Ah. I want to just do it.

Okay. Okay. Three? Wait. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a mental pretzel. Yep. I'm at Auntie Ann's counter in the mall being dipped in cinnamon sugar. Yeah.

Um, yeah. Okay. Three, two, one. Stars in seven. Oilers in seven. Yeah, I knew it. And dude, let me tell you what, pal. We had locks in here a while ago. Remember, he goes, I'm taking the caps, but I know that the canes are going to win. That is exactly how I feel right now, because I just felt as though I couldn't sit here in this fucking seat. over and over and pick the Kings and pick Vegas in fucking five like I know I know dude give me the dunce hat give me fucking clown nose coming out my ears but it just felt too it felt too

inauthentic pathetic to just be like this okay it's the oilers I give in because my take well thanks a lot for fucking insulting me pal you you switched already you know what I mean like you were like oh shit like you had oilers over the kid you knew that you knew the oilers were have been inevitable since game three of the King series.

Yeah. You knew. I'm the buffoon. No, but you're not. You know why? Because you have a soul. And it's what I'm, I'm kind of doing a version of what you just said. And that's, to me, it's a matter of respect.

I mean, fuck me, dude. The Oilers, you picked Vegas in five. They lost in five. No, they lost, bro. And they should have been swept. They only fucking won that game because Drysaddle shot a puck into his only. net at the buzzer. Yeah. Did you see that stat that technically the last goal score for the Vegas? The last person to score for Vegas was

dry-sighted. Fucking brutal. Dallas Stars, you know where my heart is. I don't need to explain myself. You know where my heart is. I am desperate to get down to Dallas. But I just, I've learned my lesson of doubt. Again, it's not doubt. I've learned my lesson of thinking that people can overcome a, the Titan. The Madman from Titan. And say the whole team, though, dude. Like, I want to actually shout the whole Oilers fucking team because every single one of them gives the same interview where they're like, there's just endless belief.

And I don't even mean to chirp the Leafs there. They're just endless belief in that locker room. And sure, fine, maybe it comes from, we have McDavid and Drysidal. And they have their moments of brilliance in overtimes throughout their careers and in these playoffs. But it's not just them doing it. It's not like there's, here comes another. Leafs Sherp. It's not just a ton of passengers sitting around watching Connor and Leon dance around the other team is doing it. Everyone is doing it on that team. No lead is safe. No series lead is safe.

I'm not sure any team in the league is even really close to them on that front right now. No, I agree. You know, you saw KK get the game winner to send them on. Of 22 guys who have dressed in these playoffs, 19 of them have points in this series. And, you know, and In these playoffs, you mean? What I say seriously. Sorry, I meant in these playoffs, which is remarkable. I know I'm sure a lot of teams are similar, but it's just like the depth was a big thing that people talked about.

Is it that good? And frankly, it is, or at least it's performing that well. Klingberg looks like he's 10 years younger playing on this team. Is Echholm back? I haven't heard anything yet, but there's a chance fucking Matias Echholm is coming back. your best defensive defenseman. And you want to talk about them being quiet. Connor only...

His first full team practice today. Yeah, there you go. Boom. Sorry, he's been ruled out of the first two games of the Western Conference Finals against Dallas, but Knoblock said he was optimistic this week could return at some point during the series. Yeah, Connor only has three goals.

But he has 17 points, and he's leading the team. Yep. And he's a plus seven. Leon has 16 points. He's a plus eight. Second place. and then ho-hum, Evan Bouchard, five goals, plus eight. No, no, four, right?

Or, excuse me, four goals, plus four. He's in third in the team. So it's like, the three guys are their three leading points scores, and by all accounts, maybe not Bouchard, but the first two people think are being, are quiet. Quiet, yeah. So Edmonton, I'm not going to do my schick again. Joe Walman, plus 13 leads the playoffs.

Buddy. What a pickup. Someone said some shit to me online that was like, you're going to talk about Walman and I said, do you want me to stuff you in a locker right now? Because if you remember when I was doing my trade deadline coverage, I called that out,

I posted a story and posted on Twitter. I said, this might be the undercover best pickup of the deadline. Yep. And they got them for peanuts. I know, dude. Oh, peanuts.

So I'm not going to do my dance. I'm not going to do my inevitable thing, even though Oilers fans, we might have a sick shirt for you coming out here. I just, yeah, I've learned my lesson. All right, how did the Oilers win? Stuart Skinner. Yep.

Or Jean-Luc Picard. But I do think we, they lost the first two games in Skinner looked like shit. Yeah, he was, he was, they did not lose again. They then did not lose again for a while until Pickard finally lost one, but got hurt. hurt during the game and then dry setup but put one in their own net to lose. Yep. And then Skinner came in and pitched two shoutouts. Back to back shoutouts. So

they're getting miraculous goaltending from after the reset, dude, hit the reset button. Now a combination of both of these guys, but it's Skinner's net. That'd be genius. Skinner's going to start game one. Oh, for sure. And yeah, it's Stewart Skinner. Because

these boys have that belief. Yep. Nothing's changing. that. And I don't think anything is going to change how they play. I think this Dallas D is very good. I think Dallas depth is very good. And it's frankly better. It's better on paper. It doesn't mean, calm down, Oilers fans. It doesn't mean it's going to perform better in the game. But if you can admit that it's objectively better on paper, then you do not understand hockey. I'm sorry. But the fact of the matter is they have not maybe matched up in a favorable fashion on paper in the last

two series and they outperformed. That is all that matters in the playoffs. So, yes, if these boys keep doing that, the only thing that could make them lose here is goaltending. If you're right, but in terms of a positive for Edmonton, they win truly by being exactly this relentless. I was searching for that word. The relentless nature of them, because I feel as though watching Dallas in these playoffs, You pulled up that crazy fucking stat that was like scoring chances or whatever. Oh, dude, you want me to get it? Yes, it's not great.

That's fucking insane. And Dallas, for a team that is got to be eight and five in the playoffs, right? One in seven, one and seven, yeah, two, three, two. Eight and five. Dallas, to me, didn't they win the first year's in six, I thought? Wasn't that seven, game seven against the abs? It was seven? Yeah, and they were down to nothing.

Yeah. And then, like, Miko Ranton was like, get fucked, bitch ass. Dallas, eight and five in the playoffs, congrats. You're into the Western Conference Finals again. But they have been playing dangerously. They like to live dangerously. So here it is.

Now, keep in mind, this was four days ago. So there's been a game that changed this. But to four days ago, the remaining teams in the second, This was through the playoffs. Playoff scoring chance differential so far. So this is going to include some teams from round one. Number one in the league was the Keynes at plus 89. Two was Florida at plus 70.

Three was the Oilers at plus 57. Third to last, the Dallas Stars is minus 48. Minus 48 scoring. So that means like in every game the Stars have played these playoffs, their opponent has had 48 more scoring chances than they have had. They, dude, Austin, danger powers. That's the Delinky. The population of Delinky is seven people,

and they're all the middle name Danger. That's the way they've been playing. And if there is literally, literally one team in the playoffs that I would say, I recommend you wouldn't, you shouldn't get outchanced and play. loosely and dangerously against. It is the Oilers. I just made a joke about the Panthers

scoring in bunches against the Leafs. Bro, how many times do we talk about the Oilers need one minute of good hockey? One mistake, and it's in the back of your net. So the Oilers, just, if they, to win this series, I barely even think they need good goaltending. They would love it, of course. If Stuart Skinner decides to not give up a goal

for the rest of the playoffs, Connor McDavid would go, thank you very much, and I'll name my first kids to. He doesn't have a kid yet, right? I don't think so. I named my first kid, Stu. But assuming that doesn't happen, I don't even think they give a fuck because they just have to go, just pounce.

Just pounce on the fucking mistakes because Dallas has been sloppy and they've been outchance and you know we're going to get our chances. Yeah. If we are cutthroat and finish, pun intended, I guess, we will finish Delinky. Yeah, I mean, to gain citizenship of Delinkey, you need to change your middle name to danger, which is a dangerous game. Yeah, it's scary. And you are so right, this is just not the team to do it against.

Now, I think the stars, without question, have had the hardest road to the conference finals of all four teams. Two years in a row. They had to beat, which we considered the Western Conference final in their matchup against the abs. Then they had to beat the President's Trophy-winning Jets with a Vezna goalie and some of the best goal, or, you know, one of the best goals scores in the NHL, just a phenomenal, phenomenal lineup. And they did it. you're now going up against, in my opinion, probably the most dangerous team in the playoffs. Scariest team.

For sure. Most unpredictable team and confusing team. Someone said that. One of the oldest fans was like, we're unpredictable in a good way. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know what we're going to get. Dude, they're a changeling.

It's insane. You genuinely, they discombobulate you. You have no idea what's going on. That's a hard fucking team to play against. So with that, how do the stars win? Okay. So the stars win like this. And here is a, in my opinion,

in the first round is harsh. But the second round is unfortunately just true. Unfortunately, if you're a fan of the Vegas Golden Knights. And I'm beating a fucking dead horse on this one. But you cannot be Jake Ottinger and stare down your USA counterpart, which we all said mattered and with an Olympic spot on the line and outplay him. Okay? And then go get outplayed by whoever's in goal for the Ointers. I don't care who it is.

I don't care how hot Stuart's. Skinner is in that moment or Jean-Luc is in that moment who has been great at times in the playoffs. If you are Jake Onger and you are who you think you are or who you say you are, that has to be an advantage for your team. Everybody said that about Vegas. They have 8-0. They have got the advantage in net. They did not. They lost. Darcy Kemper. Vesna finalist, probably runner-up. And maybe Vassi. But like, Vesna finalist. The Kings finally have the advantage in goal. They did not. And again, that one's a little hard. It wasn't totally on him.

But that is an area you have to win if you're Dallas. So if Otter can put that on himself, because by the way, bro, maybe I can find this quickly, I thought he was not good in this exact series last year. Like they were losing games. I was like, dude, this cannot happen. And Skinner was playing out of his mind. But that's a big one. Here's the other one.

The Dallas stars for as deep as they are. We just talked about their lines. They were always lacking, in my opinion, a just complete and utter by himself gamebreaker in the playoffs, which kind of costs you in some series like the one we just saw them lose to the Oilers. Yep. They traded for one. They went and traded for a guy through like craziness, dude.

Because I don't think the abs were literally ever going to trade him to Dallas. And then they saw him, Miko Rantin to get shipped to Carolina and then be disgruntled. And Carolina, smartly, being like, fine, fuck off, leave. And then the stars were like this, yo, this should never have happened. But we will take him. And we will give up shit for him. That was a serious haul that went back to Carolina for Dan, literally this exact reason. I would even venture to say that they brought in a rant in more to beat the Oilers than they did to beat the abs.

You never know who you're going to play. But it certainly looked like they were going to get the abs. And I bet this move had more the Oilers in mind because they went, we already beat the apps. And we're deep enough to beat the abs. and we have the goalie to beat the aps. We lost to the oilers because we didn't have a guy that could just fucking be the man.

Yeah. And they went and got a guy. Go beast mode, dude. Which we've seen him do in Colorado and in Dallas during these playoffs. And it is shocking to say he has more points than both Leon and Connor. Granted, I believe in, or not believe,

in less games. Yep. Excuse me, in more games. So he has more games played. But not by much. I think it's six, two more games. Yep. That's huge. Let me just add on him, though.

Game one, obviously, Hattie, Rantan against the Jets. Game two, they got pumped, no points. Game three, goal to assist, three points. Game four, one assist, game five, nothing dash two, game six, nothing even. But been a little quiet, a little quiet, the last few. Yeah, I mean, you get points in a playoff game, so it's two games, and one of them was a shutout. So I'm kind of like, I wouldn't, there are people who are like, Miko goes cold.

He doesn't. No, I'm not saying he's cold. I'm just saying you go, okay. Yeah. Need you now. Here we go, pal. Yeah, this is it. You've got home ice, right?

The Dallas Dyer's they must. Yeah. Which is huge. I feel strongly. I'm going to hit you with a well-known fact. A little reminder for all the fans out there. No player. And this will change.

This will change very soon. It might change. year. If not, it will almost certainly change next year. No player with an AAV over $10 million has ever won a Stanley Cup. That's not true. Yes, it is. Over. Oh, oh. Jack, makes 10 on the dot. Bob makes 10 on the dot. Barcoff makes 10 on the dot. Wow, that's a fucking, that's funny. Only one team remaining has someone making over 10, and that is Connor McDavid at 12.5. Yep. Depth wins.

Yep. As we have stated, the Oilers have their depth performing, which is all that matters. You said the quotes from the Oilers guys is a big difference maker here, and it is. I think the key for Dallas is belief. I think they need to believe that they can beat them. I don't know if they do, by the way. Dude. I'm dead ass.

Me neither. Yep. And I'm telling you right now, after the bullshit in game three, the Kings started to not believe. They were like, oh, my God. And you literally saw it in Hiller going, I don't believe. Yeah. Like they just tied the game. I don't believe.

Like, we need this goal called back. You are now dead. Vegas, I don't think you believed. They certainly didn't after they went up to nothing in game one. And then the stat comes up. Like, they've never lost a playoff game. with a two-goal lead, and then they always go, I will eviscerate you in this game, which they did.

Dallas, you need to believe that your guys are good enough now. You need to believe that guys like Harley and Hayskinan and Lundell, they can handle how good this offense is. You need to believe that your roster structure

going out and getting Miko, Otter's form is enough to beat this team. You need to believe that you're better. I think that's genuinely the most important thing. Yeah. But on top of that, as we've seen in all these fucking matchups, you got two games without

Acombe. Let's see how good Echome is when he comes back, but you got two games without him confirmed. In Dallas. If you do not throw the entire fucking home at this team and on that net, you are assholes. Yeah, Dallas finishes with 10 shots. We talked about it on the live this morning. If you're Dallas, you need to score more goals.

Miko has nine, but after that, it's like Rupa, Wyatt, Granny, you know, Granny's four is like, that's a good pickup, but 13 games, guys. Yeah, dude, no, no, that's not it. And Dushain with zero, Sagan with two, Marchment with one, Ben with one, and then the big one in Robo with zero. I'll be at six games. You fuckers need to start. start scoring goals.

And it is not a shootout. As you pointed out, you ain't gonna be... You don't want a track race with the fucking Oilers. You do not want to get in a track race with the Oilers. But you,

motherfuckers, need to start scoring some goals. Dude, Dallas, game six, shots against the Jets, 20, game 5, 22, game four, 24, game three,

26, game two, 21 Game 1 And like keep in mind They won the series in 6 Game 1 24 Not a single game over

20, they didn't touch 25 once in six games against the Jets When you're playing the VESDA with it Didn't you say 26 in one of them No 24 I think was that Or maybe there was a 26 Yeah yeah But not not over 28

Like you didn't talk We always say 30 is the benchmark You have to dude And and dude We saw it with Vegas I was like what would you say You're doing Vegas When you're not shooting

On this fucking team So watch the Panthers Watch one panthers game. You just got to shoot. You've got to get pucks on net. You've got to test them. You've got to get leaky ones. You got to get sketchy ones.

Otherwise, you're fucking dead. And yeah, you're not going to beat this team two to one. You're not. Agree. Otter's amazing. This defense is amazing. You are not going to beat the Edmonton Oilers with two, maybe even three fucking goals. The Oilers come, dude, and I give them so much credit.

They, like, they only, it feels like they only, it feels like they only, have a few minutes of great hockey, right? Like we keep making that joke where it's like you need to play 60 minutes of great hockey against to beat the Oilers, but but they only need five great minutes to win. I would actually argue though, that means they play sick, whatever the difference is, but they play a full game of being in striking distance. It's like the Oilers are always there, dude. They're always there.

And I think that's such a credit to that team. So yes, you just can't rely on, well, two will beat them. Because I'm like, no, dude, they're lurking. They're lurking for 60 minutes, which a lot of teams don't do. A lot of teams go so cold. Long stretch of those shots. The Oilers are always coming. So, yeah, I need more shots.

I need more from Robo, and I need auditor to play incredibly well. But, dude, the Oilers are just, they, I wanted to counter your Dallas belief with the Oilers need the, dude, the knowledge that this is their destiny. Dallas needs to believe they can beat the Oilers. The Oilers need to know that it is already written that they are winning the cup this year and just know that. They already know that we're just, all we did done the season was press play, we are winning the cup and carry on. It needs to be Matthew Kuchuk's mentality last year, right?

Yes. 100%. That clip of him on the bench looking up at the camera going, told you we'd be back. Yep. That, you, as we've said throughout the regular season, they didn't give a fuck. Nothing matters until the playoffs. You're now in take care of business, but nothing matters. until the cup.

You are so focused, not overlooking, but you are like, that's our goal, dude. I'm not looking past this team, but that is the goal. And anything less, we're fucking failures. Dude, yes. And it's one game at a time, obviously, but these are just games that we get the privilege to play on the way to our Stanley Cup and know that. Don't think it, don't believe it. Literally know it to be true.

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Start with a beer league hotline, Wags. What do you got for us? One guy and our team always hangs for beers in the locker room after the game, but literally every week he also brings a packed late-night meal and Tupperware that his wife made him. And it's never like pizza or chicken tenders. It's like chicken piccata with a side of broccoli, pork chops and sweet potatoes.

Keep in mind sometimes our games start at 10.45 p.m. We ask him if he never eats before the game, but he said he always has dinner with his wife before two. He just gets hunger again after, so she makes him a second serving to take with him. Is she the goat? Should we start paying extra team dues to her so we could all get late night meals? Or is this ridiculous?

And he doesn't need those calories so close to bedtime. Wow, there's a lot going on here. Dude, what do you think it smells like? Incredible. Really? My first question was like opening up broccoli in lock and are you like, bro? That one might be a little tough. But we're already in a hockey locker.

Good point, dude. So it doesn't even matter. Probably actually smells solidly. Probably improves. And I actually am usually hungry in that moment. Definitely. So it probably smells even better. There are many things to get into here, but there is one universal truth.

She is the goat. Yeah, dude, double serving dinner? Double serving dinner. Incredible. She's cooking for three every night. She's cooking for three every night and then you get another one. She is the goat. So let's break this down.

I don't blame this guy for being hungry after the game at all. We're all hungry after the game. I would hope so. Otherwise, your dog. out there, you piece of shit. Most of us are drinking our calories after the game. So, and he is, he is too. He's doing both.

No, no, that would be insane, but I wouldn't put it past this guy to bring one. Yeah, he brings a, what's that thing, the pizzo on? Pazazazazazazzoz. Pazazze, he brings a pizzazz, dude. Can you imagine if the pizzazz? He puts all the food on actually before they go out on the ice, so it's perfectly slow-cooked by the time it comes in. Oh, dude, that would be sick. So I don't blame them for this.

Not everyone, as you've pointed out, CP, has a beautiful situation like we do at our rink. Shout out Toyota Sports Center. Where we have a bar with a kitchen where we can get bites, as we call it. Yes. So let's live in a world where you don't have a nice bar where you can get bites.

I think it's a little crazy to not just go home. You're already... But he wants to hang. No, no. Hang. Have your beers. go home and eat standing up at the fridge like a fucking adult. Dude, in the pitch black with only the light of the fridge to illuminate how to get the fork to your fat fucking mouth, dude.

That is, you idiot. You are, like, who do you think you are? Dude, you think you're better than me? No. Yes, he does. Go home and- He does. Go home and quietly eat in front of the fridge.

He's better than you and his wife is better than you. And he's, that is for sure. He'd rather eat it there because it's better to eat it. The sooner you can eat it, the better. For sure. So he's like, dude, why don't I eat it here sitting down in the full light of the locker? with a nice bevy in hand, instead of eating it by my fucking self

in front of it right before I brush my teeth. Soaking up some of the booze too, making it safer to drive home. Dude, this is actually genius. It's maybe genius. Do you think he's putting a hot meal hot in the Tupperware? Yeah, so it's wet.

It's a wet meal now? Tupperware's dripping, dude. He opens the Tupperware up. It's leaking. Because he's not, it doesn't have time to cool in the fridge. The pecanas watery now. Yeah, it's probably a little wet.

But maybe he leaves it out. Maybe he goes, eats the hot chicken piccata. And while he's doing that, the other one is on the counter cooling. Then he leaves your beer league. The ups and downs I've gone through with this guy. Initially, as Wags was reading, I was about to be like, you're a dickhead, dude.

Eat with your wife. But he does eat with him. He goes, I have dinner with her every night. So I go, okay, Jesus. We share a meal and talk about our day every night. And then I'm like, you're a crazy man, dude. You're bringing beautiful meals like pork chops and sweet potatoes. He's eating healthy.

He's eating healthy. He doesn't need fucking buffalo wings again. And then I'm like, you're nuts. dude, go home, eat in front of the fridge. But he's like, I'm soaking up the booze. I want to hang with the boys. For every knock on the man. He's fucking ten steps ahead of you, dude.

For every knock on the man, it turns out he's ten steps ahead of me. I think this guy might be a genius. And I think we should all be doing this. I think at the end of beer league games, the first thing should happen is like, everybody comes in, you're like, oh, boy, who needs one? And then, dude, dude, and then we have signs dinner. Yeah. Because everyone's bringing dinner. It's a potluck.

You can start sharing. It's a potluck. It's a beer league potluck. You go, it's like, dude, it's like lunch. It's like lunch, dude. What do you got in the lunchbox? Dude, what did your mom pack you? What did the wife pack?

Trade you a sweet potato. Sade you a side of sweet potatoes for some of that rice pilaf. What do you think about what he said about paying the wife to make it for the whole team? Like a mom of the team. I love the thought. I think you're asking too much of this gap. Well, how much we paying her though. True?

Make it worth her time. She quits her job. She quits her job. next thing you know she quits her job she gets to stay home but she's already making it so it's just I don't want to say it's extra work it's just put a few more in there maybe

this could be a business here dude she quits her job team mom we're all the league wags all of a sudden they're quitting their jobs and the wags are paying for their lives with a little extra team do so they can just make meals for the boys it's like putting fucking orange slices in a zip lock bag and send it to your kid's soccer game

next thing you know you're just putting a bunch of chicken picata and a bunch of tappoombering at 1045 p.m. Can you imagine the excitement when you get back after the game and homeboys opening up his huge industrial cooler and you're like what is it what is it tonight yeah is it this week oh you got imagine the cooler that you're bringing into that locker room because there's there's there's there's dude he goes he goes fucking happy killman yeah who's who steals 20 bag lunches too like who's coming into the beer league locker room with 20 Tupperware dinners dude he goes homemade he goes uh salmon terriaki glazed asparagus asparagus and I go holy shit

Dude, this is one of the most special things that I've ever heard and got better every second of the way. Every second. This is how you troubleshoot stuff. We tried to poke holes and it turns out you can't do it. So, dude, this is, this is the most ridiculous thing of all time. And in fact, I might start making my own dinners. Because if we don't do the team mom, if we do the potlock thing, it does kind of blow when you are single. Look, everyone's like, everyone's mom, my wife, man.

And you're like this, yeah, made another grilled cheese. But maybe it's a little fun. It's a soggy grilled cheese. Maybe it inspires you to start cooking some nice stuff. Yeah, hang. I can't get over the school lunch moment because it is, yeah, like maybe the side for dinner, this one particular night was cauliflower or something. You're not a huge fan of, but you're like, oh, whatever.

Someone will like it. My wife's amazing. She made this delicious meal. I'm going to eat it. And you get in there and you're sitting next to Smitty. He loves cauliflower. He's got Brussels sprouts. Doesn't love him.

Fuck, Brussels. And you go, oh, dude. You want to swap? And he goes literally done right now. Can you imagine the image of 10 beer league hockey players at 1158 p.m. Sitting half undressed in hockey equipment, drinking ice cold Coors lights, ice cold LaBats. Yeah. Drinking ice cold LaBats while all holding a Tupperware.

Pass the sweet potatoes. Leftover dinner. It's amazing. Eating a meal in the locker room. I need this to happen. Brings the team together in a way that I didn't think possible. Holy shit. Incredible.

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we are going the best players still playing in the conference finals. Skaters, no goleys. No goalies. The best skaters left. And I don't mean they're skating ability. The best players in the conference finals, still in it, no goalies. How they're playing right now. Up for debate.

Come on. That gets crazy. Well, I don't want it to just feel like a point thing. Like, oh, well, he's got more points than this guy. Well, yeah, but it's like, you know. Who do you want? Who would you want? Well, I'm just saying, like, do I think Miko Rantin's better than Leon Driesel or Cona McDavid?

No, but do I think he's playing a little bit better? Yeah, I do. Yep. But I think a factor of that is like, well, who do I want coming into this conference finals? Yeah, true. And maybe you want David more than, more than Rantan, but you're like, well, Rantin's playing better. You know, it's a, it's all part of the equation. All right.

All right. Wax. Let it rip. Jarvie. Jarvie doing everything right now, Dan. He really is. Literally killing penalties, 93%. Power play.

Running. running point QB on the power play, scoring empty net goals, being the last guy out on the ice. He's been all over the line up. Yeah. He's playing Selky level, defensive offense.

Let me just think about that. Because all that being said, it could be really low. Because I think he would even say there's like a guy on his team that you would want more. It could be really low, but it could be really high.

Yeah, and I do think that the empty nets, as much as we love them, are a factor, honest stats, but I'm like in three here. Yeah. I mean...

And now I'm actually maybe back up to it too. I just think that there's some dogs. But we might not get it. But yeah, but think about it. There's a lot of players. There are a lot of players. There's a ton of players. Don't be crazy. We're going three, I think. I hate a three. But actually maybe it is a three. I know, but everyone's always so afraid of a three and they're around around. This might actually be a three. Sometimes this might actually be a three. Jarvie three. Slaving. Okay, so now, now, dude. Aren't you glad what we did? And that's the guy I was saying. he actually might, he might say there was a guy on his team he would put over him.

And he would definitely say that because Jarvie is a man of class. Is Jarvie doing with Slavin though? No. Jarby out on the power play. Jacob Slavin is the best defensive player in these playoffs. Jarvie out on the power play. Jarvie scoring goals. Why do I do this with you?

Why do you play games just to be an idiot? Just think about things like this. We're in a good spot. Wags threw us a curveball early, gave us two Keynes players right off the bat. How much time on ice do you think Jarvie's averaging and how much much time when I actually think Slavin's out. Oh my God. I bet Slavin is averaging 20 in playoffs. Yeah, I would argue, or I would argue, I would guess probably like, I would say Jarvie's at like 19 minutes, 19 to 20 minutes, and I would say Slavin is probably 24 minutes. Slavin 2333 leads the team,

then Burns 2213, Orloff 2212. Ojo, 2058, Jarvie, 2034. God, he's over 20. 20, 34. Yeah, he's a beast. Are we sure Jarvie's not doing more? Are you out of your mind? It's the All-Father.

He might be one. Oh, shit. I didn't even think about that. Wait, is he one? He might be. Maybe he is one. I think we go two. Just leave it open.

Okay, dude. Okay, fine. Two. Two, two, two, two, two. Right, man. Fuck. I've never felt worse about anything than this current list. We are fucked.

We're going to go one, and we're feeling perfect. Are we, though? Yeah, for right now. Slaven. I wish we could end the list right now at three. We're going to go one. It's a top three flagragging, and we crushed it. We're going to go one, and we're going to hope that Wags goes in deep into his bag and picks

two random names. Maybe names Wags has never heard before. And we're going to pick one because that is the correct choice with what is on the table. Bird in hand. Bird in hand. Okay. Moose. Moose is one.

Spence the club. I actually love him at four. We just dodged a bullet, Dan. We just dodged a massive bullet. I love him at four. He got eight goals. He's been incredible. He's got eight goals. He's been incredible. But Jarvie, a little bit more points.

I like what he's doing deep. Jarvie doing more. Jarvie, you've been saying, Jarvie's doing a lot. everywhere, dude. Jarvie everywhere. He everywhere. Svech wags, three Cains players. Is such a lot of your fucking mind, dude. Like, Jesus Christ. But I actually

Dan, I think we dodged the bullet perfectly. Do we put Svech 5? I don't hate it. Because you just do. Because, like, I think there's a chance that we just dodged a bullet, and am I trying to dodge another bullet? We're playing the long game. Like, I think maybe you go, oh, dude, we put switch 5, and then if it's like a one bad one, it's okay.

But like... Svecchnikov. Five. Five. Okay, who's four? Sam Bennett. This is pretty legit There is a chance, Dad. There is a significant chance. This is pretty legit.

There's a significant chance that this list was perfect. Dude, I was dead. We were dead in the water. There was no hope on the horizon. I would hear some Keynes fans being like, Svetch is higher than Sam Bennett, but I don't know. Sam Bennett everywhere. Sam Bennett's got more points.

He's doing a lot. He's punching people in that? I think Sam Bennett at four. we might be pretty, pretty fantastic here, fella. That might have been money. There is a chance. I can't wait to see the comments on this. That might have been money.

Let me just say that this might be a perfect list. Wow. That was awesome. All right, folks, you know the rundown. Those are our conference final previews. We've got the week of Netters every week here. You're listening to this episode on a Tuesday. We've got bingo later today.

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