Empty Netters Podcast - Please Hockey Gods Give Us 7 Games Of Wild Avs

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

14 different goal scorers in game 1, are you kdding me?! The Habs eliminate the Bolts, despite getting smothered all night. The Sabres wagon trail rolls on, ending the Bruins season in Boston. The Mam...moth journey ends at home as well, where Marner has his best playoff game yet. And the Canes look like a force to be reckoned with in their win against the Flyers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ice is ready and we're back with another live episode of the Engineer's podcast, brought to you by BenM. May the Ford be with you, everyone. Happy Star Wars Day and CP, a lot of people just lost a bunch of money with you not wearing sunglasses right now. Dude, I was ready at all. I was ready to be dead today because I thought maybe something about happening that night, but then nothing happened by me. You never know.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Well, actually, hilariously, I had an event from 3.30 to 9.30 yesterday. That's too long of an event. So I taped. I had all the games for the two games recorded. And dude, we're going to get into it, but two of the craziest games of all time for different reasons. So by the time I fucking get out here, I have one billion tax hundred. Like literally, every thread that exists. had something to say about those hockey games.
Starting point is 00:01:02 So as you're going back and you click on a text, it just drops from 1,015 on red to like 1,000-something. Yeah. You don't even know how high to scroll on threads. So I spent the entire night completely sober, literally reading text messages and then watching the two games, which were a delight. Delight.
Starting point is 00:01:22 So I'm so glad that happened. But holy shit. Dude, I have to share this with you guys. I'm pissed at myself. I didn't take a screenshot. But for the chat, for everyone watching, you can see the ticker. Lots to get into two insane games last night
Starting point is 00:01:39 and then more action over the weekend. We're going to get into it all. Zach, I wanted to show this to you. Someone tweeted at us. Hold on real quick. Everyone's saying anything. Oh. So maybe we'll talk in the chat.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah, I hear everything. maybe it was maybe now it's better so we're going all right here we go
Starting point is 00:02:09 all right well it sounds like everyone just heard we're getting into all the action it's going to be amazing
Starting point is 00:02:13 CP not hungover unbelievable but you know everyone thought they were going to smash that yeah but they didn't
Starting point is 00:02:22 so I was just saying over I think it was over the weekend it might have been like on Friday or something This is what happens every year We come with the positivity
Starting point is 00:02:37 We love the Netters community The network Everyone is so positive and awesome And we're always just fucking Giving a double-rister to every team Being happy, go lucky about everything The second a team loses in playoffs Lunatics show up
Starting point is 00:02:52 And start talking shit And being really aggressive And angry and violent And it's hilarious At us In like Cause some at us, some in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:02 But I didn't even direct this at anyone. I posted something on X a little while ago. That was just a general thought. And I was like, if you were a fan of a team and you've been steady talking shit online and then your team gets swept, you got to take your medicine. That's all I said. I was like, just take your medicine. Like if you were, if we were talking shit to Gavin.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah. For everyone watching, Dr. Locks, Gavin, best guy in the world, Philly fan, Chris and I are Boston fans. We like the Celtics. Gavin likes the Sixers. When it's 3-1, if I were talking shit to Gavin and then the Sixers come back and win in seven, I can't say shit. Now, I didn't talk shit to Gavin because I know the Celtics are fucking bitches. And they were going to choke that. And Gavin, when Sixers won was like, oh, my God, you knew.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And I was like, correct. Celtics fucking stink. But if you talk shit and then you get swept, you got to take your medicine. Yep. So I posted something like that and a ton of senators fans were like not even talking shit at me. They were like, fuck that. I'll talk all the shit I want, blah, blah, blah. And I was just like, I didn't even direct this at senators.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Like the Kings got swept. Dude, remember we said this? Remember when that Kings fan when we were walking out of the sweep? Unbelievable. He looks at the ass fan and he's like, you'll be golfing in a week anyway, bitch. And I was like, whoa, dude. I don't think they will, but that's okay. So I hear you
Starting point is 00:04:30 So this fucking clown On On Twitter Posts a Like a freeze frame of this show And he goes He goes These guys are so broke
Starting point is 00:04:50 That they're still using microphones with cords in them This show is a joke or something And I was like I replied to him and I go, can you tell me what podcast doesn't have chords in their microphones? Like, the cord chirp was insane. And I was like, that is your chirp here. And he then sends a screenshot of the fucking jankiest shittiest Amazon microphone.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Like he clearly typed in, actually you can see it in the bar. It was like best cordless podcast microphones. And sent a screenshot from like an Amazon search. And I was just like, Jesus Christ, man. We were getting. So I just wanted to make clear like this setup is so fucking nice. And I was like, we've worked so hard to get the live working and everything great. And then this fucking dip shit online is like, why didn't you buy this Toys R Us microphone?
Starting point is 00:05:48 I was going to say you lose. Half the lives have crashed. Like if you want to chirp me, go ahead. Get us for that. saying there's so much to chirp us about like lives have crashed the you can't even hear the sound at the beginning of this guy's like this you have cords i'm like good god almighty yeah get us where it's supposed to get yeah like if you want to chirp us chirp us about what is worthy of chirping us for uh do you want to jump right into minnesota colorado first and foremost yeah okay amazing
Starting point is 00:06:16 what what fucking event were you at for six hours though um i was i was i was It was a whole door to door. I had to leave at 3.30 to get there at 4.30 to, you know, it was a whole thing. Hey, people are loving your shirt. Oh, gas. It's a great shirt. Unbelievable. O. G's.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Well, Schaefer. I show this thing to Schaefer, dude. Makes me want to play. Matthew Schaefer goes like, I guess, what is that? Because what is, what shirt are you wearing? And I go, are you fucking insane, dude? Yeah. I love that it's on a gray.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Because, like, the OG gray control. Dude, so they sell it in every color. Yeah. But I was like, it's got to be. You have to get gray. It's got to be great. All right. Minnesota, Colorado.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Let's get into it. My first thought, I can't believe you didn't watch this live. I know. My first thought was we got the, oh, by the way, have we ever seen round two start before round one ended? I asked this to someone the other day because I was like, don't have to wait because the fire started on Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, don't have to wait.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And somebody was like, somebody said they weren't doing it this year. and they were pretty sure that that had been happening recently, and I actually think they're right. But it used to be you did. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure that's kind of a thing now. I love it. Me too. What I find weird is I don't think Buffalo is playing until Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And Buffalo, Montreal. And I knew Game 7 was yesterday, but I was like, Wednesday feels a little long. Yeah, like, why not Tuesday? Yeah. It's fine. But anyway, yeah, now we start whenever we want, Dan. Start whenever we want. I'm thinking it was a,
Starting point is 00:07:55 exactly a week since the abs have played. And it was like, first thought, you know, are the abs going to be a little rusty? I guaranteed it. I guaranteed it. And you know my take on that. I'm like, I think it's the dumbest take in the world. I think they're fine.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That, dude, the abs come out and score three straight goals. It legitimately looked like, you know, this is relevant, Kentucky Derby just happened. Yeah. When they bring the horses out and they bring Phillies out next to them to get them all boned up. Dude, Morsi didn't like that, by the way. Really?
Starting point is 00:08:25 He was like, we got to get rid of this. He thought it was too archaic. Trevor. What's wrong with that? He was like, dude, stop. Yeah, he was like, this is insane. But yeah, they bring the Phillies out to get them all horned up so they're revved up and ready to go. That is what the abs team looked like.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. It looked like they were a bunch of feral animals who were just fucking ready to rock. They came out so hot. It was insane. Yep. insane um so actually we'll let's do we'll do the whole game first but i totally agree when they went up three nothing i was like and dude going back to read the text was funny once i had seen some of the action when when when when they went up three nothing the tone of all the text threads were like
Starting point is 00:09:09 holy shit the abs were just playing the king's game because that's what the kings wanted now they're now they're playing a team that can score and they go you want to play this way dude watch this here's fucking ten yeah and legitimately i was I was like, I was way off. They're going to kill them. And the abs are now terrifying. Yeah. But that turned pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:09:31 It wasn't, like, I didn't live in that, that long. It was, so it goes three nothing. Yeah. And, like, we're talking to Marty. We're talking to Wyatt. We're talking to Wyatt. We're talking to, yeah. Everyone was like, I'm turning this game off.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah, yeah. Like, this is a nightmare. And you know what's funny? I, uh, it's also relevant, May the 4th. I was flying this weekend. Yep. And I don't know what. came over me, but I, or we had talked about on the show, I have flown so much that I have
Starting point is 00:09:59 seen every movie that you know it has to offer. So I was like, I got to rewatch some stuff here and the OG Star Wars movies are on there. And I was like, you know what? I haven't seen those in a while. And actually, it was funny. It occurred to me last night. I was on Disney Plus and I saw something for May the 4th and I was like, oh shit, that's tomorrow. Yeah. So like I was ahead of the game. Nice. I've been watching Star Wars. I've been doing it. So I was watching all Star Wars movies and I had about 30 minutes left in Return of the Jedi and I was like I want to watch this I want to finish it last night Oh oh at home and when it got three nothing there was a part of me that was like but on maybe I fucking turn this off Maybe I get a little dual screen action going on but then
Starting point is 00:10:38 Wild score and I was like I was like still in the fight Still in the fight still in the fight then they score again and I was like okay and then it was just like bang tied and I was like holy shit This is unbelievable when the wild took the lead I was like this He's the greatest game of I could have ever met. It was also the most perfect start to that series. Yes. I don't think we're going to have a drunk shootout like Ducks Anaheim. Ducks Anaheim, Ducks Oilers.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But that start to this series could not have been better. I had a question for you as I was rewatching. I didn't want to reignite the threads. I was like, I'll just deal with this tomorrow. Obviously, it was only the second, I think. Maybe the third, but I think the second. but it was shades of the mammoths come back against Vegas. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Take the lead and then you lose by three. Yeah. I was like sitting here going, is that a puke? Like in your mind, you're like, you came back after getting murdered. You came all the way back and went like this. You're my bitch. I'm now winning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You can't lose that game. I disagree because it happened so early. Like it wasn't like, I mean, the mammoth were winning that game with like four minutes left. Right. So I don't think it's a puker. at all. And then also there was, they didn't have the lead for more than 30 seconds. I know. Like it was fucking insane.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Like they got the lead and I tweeted I was like, holy shit, like alert, the wild have the lead. And then literally two minutes later, I was like, alert, it's tied again. Yeah, yeah. So I don't think there was a puk. I also, as they got the lead there, you knew they weren't going to hold it long. It was like this game is going to go back and forth. Spooky stuff with the kale injury.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Spooky stuff. So much, there had been been so many posts about, you know, Quinn, Kale, here we go. And that was so, what do you think happened there? I thought he, like, pulled his groin. His leg kicked up so high. Well, he said, did you see the post game? I kept watching. They asked him.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And, dude, that was actually scary because I'm always like, God, how are people getting hit in the face with skates? And then, like, I'll play like that happens and you're like, holy shit. Like, that could have been horrible. Oh, dude, you see Felino kind of. Yeah. I mean, late, but he was just like, oh, my God, Jesus Christ. So after they asked him, and Kail was like, I'm not going to get this quote exactly,
Starting point is 00:12:55 but he was like, you know, I went to go get the puck. I knew he wasn't going to be playing the puck, which is fine. Because, you know, everyone's trying to make a play. He was going to take the body. And he was like, dude, I literally just got off balance. Like, he hit me in a good spot, but I just lost my balance. Yeah, and I just went flying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And I think Ace was like, what were you thinking when you were up in the air? And he was like, I was just thinking like, okay, just don't get hurt on the way down. Yeah. What I'm saying is like, I wonder what he hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair. He's like, that's why I mentioned the groin thing. Like, he fucking can-can kicks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And then his knee hits the glass, too. I was like, is it his knee or is it his elbow or something? But definitely a wonky play. He comes back, thank goodness. Two talks. Fuck you. Yeah, and you know what was funny? He got his first after Quinn scored.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Yeah. And I was sitting there alone watching. And when Quinn scored at Kail was back by then, I was like Kales obviously scoring tonight because it just, that back and forth is going to be so fun. But, I mean, drunkest game of the playoffs. For sure. Genuinely drunker than that one particular,
Starting point is 00:14:02 what was that game four? It was game for, Anaheim, Edmonton. Drunkest game of the playoffs. Did you notice, I think it was seven of the nine goals, Walshead has a right circle problem. Yeah, interesting. And every goal was scored on the right circle. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And it's like that so many went that over the pad under the glove that you wonder was Colorado being like, hey, this is a weak spot for him, whether before the game or in the middle of the game, because genuinely almost every single goal was scored right from that spot. Yep. That was wild. There was some wacky bounces. I kind of feel like more, not kind of, I feel like more, not kind of, I feel like more wacky bounces put goals in college. Colorado's net, then wacky bounces put goals in Edmonton's net. Erkie Edmonton, weird. Now we're all fucked up.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And then in Minnesota's net. But so I don't mean to excuse Wedgwood, really, because he gave up six goals, but just like there was some crazy shit. Yeah. But it was one when I was watching it, dude. And I knew the game about crazy because of all the texts. But when I was watching it, I was thinking to myself, I had asked you about Walsstead and we, and I, when Eva was on, I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:15:18 What a performance from that. kid. This was one, Panger was even saying on the broadcast, you have nights like this and I wonder what the head coach is going to do next game because maybe it was film. Maybe they did see something. Maybe it was just a bad night. But at the end of the day, I'm like, dude, they are firing Pucks past you. Like just an onslaught of Pucks are going in this time. I think it was like he had 8, 10, say, percentage and it was like negative four point something goals saved above expected. And this is the luxury of having Gus, right? But you know, you don't want to just cut the kids head off after an incredible round one series literally but i am like whoa dude maybe we
Starting point is 00:15:56 sit down for a second maybe we catch a breather you know what i always find funny whenever Zach you might not be aware of this but whenever there's a game like this where it's a shootout yeah neither team pulls the goalie they're like this we're just in a we're in a firing squad here whatever i i find that so interesting because i'm like pull him and you'll win Pull him. You'll win. Like, why not pull him? He's, he's leaky as fuck.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Just so crazy. It is, it's this weird, unwritten rule almost in hockey where it's like if both goalies are getting lit up like Christmas trees, you just leave them in and let him shine. And I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. Maybe we pull him. I mean, someone else might be seeing it better. Yep. I don't get why they do that because, I mean, frankly, if for me, I suppose it was late too because did they get.
Starting point is 00:16:45 two empty net goals or was it just one? They just got the one. Yeah, it was just the Nate one, right? They went eight six. Yeah. After the Wilde took the lead and then immediately Colorado tied, I would have pulled Walsett. Yeah. I would have pulled him and then like, we're going to start over
Starting point is 00:17:01 and Gus, it's your net. Don't get scored on it. Yeah, and you guys just keeps going on wedge. If you pull him, is Bednar then like pull, pull, pull, punk. Get blackwood. They have two guys. Get blackwood. They have two guys that they think are even. That's what I'm saying. So, I mean, it was just that, that was crazy. And what was also crazy was this question we had going into this series,
Starting point is 00:17:24 can Wedgwood carry his unbelievable play in the regular season into playoffs? He did so in that first series. But then in this one, I mean, Wedgwood was not good in this game. Correct. And that's some bad bounces. Not taking anything against, you know what, I'm so fucking sick of this. We're going to get into bounce ship. with fucking Montreal, Tampa, all the fucking idiots being like,
Starting point is 00:17:46 pluck, blah, blah, blah. I'm not taking anything away from the wild and how good they are offensively. They're incredible. But there was a lot of chatter. I mean, Jesus Christ, Landisog, straight up, set it on the bench. I don't know if you caught that one. You know, what was this?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. He was just, they were like, what, you know, what's going on in this game? And he was basically like, well, you know, we just finished a series against a team who can't fucking score goals. So it's definitely a bit of a different situation. It was the most not indirect, direct chirp in L.A. That's not a ricochet.
Starting point is 00:18:18 That's a headshot. L.A. is a team who all season long didn't have the best offense. And Colorado goes up against them and handles them in four games. Now they're playing Minnesota, and you definitely, you win that game and you feel great about it. But at the same time, if you're Colorado and you're looking at Wedgwood and you're like, you just played for the first time in these playoffs a team that can score goals and you gave up six. Yep. You don't feel awesome about that.
Starting point is 00:18:43 But same time. Dude, what series was it? I was trying to think about this when I was watching it. I'm pretty sure it was Edmonton Calgary. Like when Cichuk and Johnny were on the flames. Yeah. They had a first round series that, or maybe second round, but they had a series in there that was literally like eight.
Starting point is 00:19:01 The first two games were like eight, six, seven, five. And everybody was like, holy fucking boat race. This is insane. No deal we played here. Then it settled in. But, and somebody, if you guys remember in the chat, look that up because that series was an all-timer to start. Find out how many goals were scored in, like, the first one or two games in that series.
Starting point is 00:19:20 But I hear, you're right. Everything you just said is right. But I also think, weirdly, Colorado can go, dude, we are transformers. I will do whatever. I don't give a fuck. You want to do this, dude? You think I can't score eight? Like, yeah, even if Wedgwood is going to give up seven every game,
Starting point is 00:19:38 if I'm Colorado, I go, I can score eight against me. them and Walsden. Yeah. No problem. That is the funny question. It's like whenever a game like this happens, I feel like as a fan, you just get out of it and you're like, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah. And you're just thrilled about the win. But you then don't ask questions of shit. Do we have to worry about Wedgwood now? It happens all the time. Every time someone wins a game like that. I mean, look at Ducks fans in that fucking insane game. They were just like this fucking all right, dosty, we're fine.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And I'm like, well, dude. Maybe not. You know, it was hilarious, man. I have a note from game six, Tampa, Montreal, too. Then honestly, it was kind of that one more than game seven, but I have a note from game six, which was a one-nothing overtime. Yeah. And I just, at the very end of my note is like, God, that was such a fun hockey game.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You know, there was a lot of chances, a couple power plays, nothing crazy. That was so fun. Yeah. And then I watched this, and I'm like, oh, actually, this is fun. That sucks. It's so awesome. I was like, never mind. Every game should be a thousand.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I never know quite how to react because there are those great. great games we always reference game seven Boston Tampa 2011 one nothing game it was awesome it's pure hockey right but I'm like fuck that give me nine six yeah I don't give a shit somebody I think it was there's a lot of emotional swings though in these games oh yeah it's like when he's just it's hard to manage your emotions on the bench when this is happening when when Minnesota ties that game and your Colorado you are definitely going oh you've got to be kidding because you're riding so high in that 3-0 moment. Especially after sweeping a team,
Starting point is 00:21:15 you come in and you're like, we are going to fucking fuck this team. Yeah, yeah, literally. Oh, Dan, at 3-0 legitimately, it was like, oh, dude, this is also a sweep. Yeah. We now might go, we might go 16 and 0. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And it's hilarious to me that anybody said this was a good series. Yeah. Oh, oh, the wild are coming. Oh, the wild. And then it was. Water's freezing under the Golden Gate Bridge. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Exactly. Exactly. Exactly right. It's nonsense. So do you have any other massive highlights from that game? No, I mean, there were there were, there's part of me that's like, you know, there were great goals. Like Quinn's goal was just such a great seeing-eye shot. Also, I want to give Quinn credit for his bank shot goal because I don't think we got to talk about that. I did with you did talk about it.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I mean, that was, oh yeah, Ava. Yeah, she was talking about that. Like that, I can't believe there are people who don't think that that was intentional. Well, I will say this, and I said it on the thing, Krill is backdoor. Oh, I do have one more things to say about the series. But Krill is back door. So I think Quinn is going.
Starting point is 00:22:22 One or the other? Yeah. This is either going to hit something good or get through. Put it in a dangerous area. Yeah. Like, don't think he was literally like, I don't even see Krill. I can hit this off this skiff. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Which maybe some people do think. Yeah. But I definitely think the haters who were like, he was just passing it. I'm like, he knew. knew that danger. That was danger, stranger, stranger, danger. This is what I wanted to say. The only question I have, or the two questions I have for the while, because I'm with you, that was a fucking blast, and you're fine, you can score, you know, you can come back against Colorado. One, their power play was over three again. And after we said against Dallas, like, oh, they
Starting point is 00:23:00 can't score on the power play, but they look so good. They look great. They're snapping it around. Eventually it'll go in. I'm like, okay, but eventually it does have to go in. Because Colorado was one for two, Dallas went fucking 40% or whatever they went. You, I can't believe you won that series against Dallas getting rinsed in the special teams battle so badly. I assure you, you will not beat Colorado if you get rinsed in the special team battle. So score a fucking power play goal. You've got to get the power play going.
Starting point is 00:23:25 There's no doubt about it. And I stand by, I said it in the Dallas series. I do not understand what the problem is because they look so good on the power. It looks perfect. There are tons of power plays that go cold when they can't even set up. They can't even break it in. this team gets set up instantly and they're snapping it around like nothing I've ever seen. It's like PowerPlay film and then they just can't score.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah. There's a part of me that's like I would all, you know, you wonder what his possession is like, but you've got, Boldie is on the half wall most of the time. And I think Krill is low or you're in front. And I watch Quinn and Faber. Sometimes it's, who else? it was was it Brinker who was up there
Starting point is 00:24:11 with Quinn for a little while Maybe I can't remember Maybe put krill at the top You need to start spraying some shots So that's my big thing With Minnesota's power plate Like I need more shots on net Through dangerous areas
Starting point is 00:24:24 Through traffic Boldie setting up for the one timer Crills sometimes on the one timer That's it But I'm like I don't know Maybe don't play the one timer Maybe play the bumper
Starting point is 00:24:34 Maybe play You know Work it down low get it right into the middle, or maybe let Quinn put some seeing-eye pucks through. Yeah. They need to start shooting the puck on the power play more. Yep. And then my second thing was, and I'm not smashing the panic button yet because I can't
Starting point is 00:24:49 because my hand is broken. But even if it was healthy, I wouldn't. Here it is. I'm not smashing this panic button yet. But you eventually need krill to get going a little bit. One apple, you scored six goals. Bat Boldie's been incredible kind of carrying you. Quinn's doing a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm like, I think absolutely. I need you to score goal. I think hit it. Score goal. Because he, my thing with Krill, we've talked about him so often as this game-breaking player. Absolutely. And even in series like this when you're playing some of the best teams, how noticeable is Quinn Hughes on the ice? How noticeable is Nathan McKinnon on the ice?
Starting point is 00:25:29 How noticeable is Kail McCar on the ice, right? Yep. In that game, as drunk as, this is where he should thrive. Yep. He's a Russian man. He's a Russian man. A drunk game should be your haven. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I don't think he was that noticeable last night. I thought Matt Boldly was way more noticeable. As he has been all playoffs. And maybe he's battling something, but Krill, I want to let him out. I want him to just start wrestling the bears in the woods. Like be in your element and start buzzing, because I do think I need more of him. Okay, well, because of the, before we move on, because of the schedule starting before it was all done, which I love, we didn't we have to cheat on two of the series but dan
Starting point is 00:26:10 yes i i wrote all of mine down before any game started and i'm being i being dead honest with my picks okay amazing so you start on this one yeah avs wild what do you got avs and seven same so listen and and ladies and gentlemen pray pray this go seven because this is going to be so fun. I went abs because A, they, I thought they would lose game one, but they arrested their fine. Minnesota had a really tough
Starting point is 00:26:41 series. They both teams are powerhouse stacked. I think home ice doesn't matter as much in hockey, but I think it would benefit Colorado if we got to a game seven. Yeah. So I just thought this was going to be and I think this one is going to do kind of what Minnesota Dallas is where it just goes like like I'll have Minnesota winning game
Starting point is 00:26:57 too, you know, it's going to go ding ding ding ding ding ding all the way. But I Feed me seven of these games. Give me seven. I need seven. All right. Ready? Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Dude. Oh, my God. I have so much to say about that. Go, go. The Montreal Canadiens take down the Tampa Bay Lightning in seven in Tampa, in Tampa. And we've got a lot of questions to bring up. I, if it's okay with you, we're going to. to get into the game, then we will get into the questions.
Starting point is 00:27:33 But also, if it's okay with you, I want to do a little game six stuff first because that happened on Friday. Okay, sure. We haven't been able to talk about that. And I stand by, Game Six was one of the most fun games I've ever seen. So I'll kind of rapid fire my thoughts and you can chime in or not. Do it. But Game Six, Bell Center.
Starting point is 00:27:51 God, dude. Yeah. What a venue. Just the place looked fucking bat shit. It did. Legitimately. Like, they have a chance to close out the bolts. They want it so bad.
Starting point is 00:28:00 That first period was the best first period of the series, even through Game 7. And one of the best first periods, I mean, obviously you just get to go, what was the score after this one, the Colorado one, 3-2? Or was it like? After the first 3-2, yeah. So, like, that is so sick and, you know, it was incredible. But that first period in Montreal, Tampa, someone go back and check, but I think the shots were like 12-10, which means both teams are flying. Cole hit the post. Like, there was, De Noe had the save off the goal line.
Starting point is 00:28:27 There was incredible chances, but incredible saves. So many shots, so much action. I was like, this is literally perfect. This is literally perfect playoff hockey. It was unbelievable. Then you get, after chirping Vassie, personally, chirping Vassie for some leaky shit in the playoffs, he gets that glove save. I forget who hit that rebound, but you've seen the highlight where he makes the save.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And somehow, like, in a split still pushes and makes that glove save, which was fucking bad shit. Then, oh yeah, Dan, can I show you this? I know you saw, but you just forget because it was Friday. I pulled this up just to just. just to have this conversation. This play right here is a penalty shot in every other series. Based on that, the penalty shot that was called for Martinook. Martinook.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Even the, even the Arvetson one. It is like the same thing. I'm like, dude, you are clearly behind him from even deeper. I think the call that they're saying they called that one. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. That's a penalty shot. And I'm not even rooting particularly for, I was just like, that is a penalty shot. So the bolts get the power play.
Starting point is 00:29:29 They can't score, but you've got to be thinking, I would have loved Jake Gensel on a fucking penalty shot right there. And then the bolts hit two posts on that power play, but just can't get it done. A couple heroic kills late. Cooch took a trip in OT, a heroic kill. And then Hague makes an incredible play, and then Goncath wins it.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Just that hockey game was... Gonzalves has been so good all playoffs, and then I was shocked that that was his first goal. Oh, was it of the series? Yeah, yeah. Wow, that's insane. Dude, that... That game...
Starting point is 00:30:00 was close to Boston, Tampa, and it was just so great. And in that moment, I was thinking Tampa has a real shot to do this because I didn't think I didn't think I'd get through that game. Yeah. My outtake is I didn't find that game that entertaining. I thought the first period was super entertaining. And then it was the third for me. Like they, I thought they both got a little, like, scared and tight.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And like, no one wanted to take a chance. And I was like, well, what are you fuckers score, dude, please? and just like do something in this game. That doesn't take away from, you're right. Like the first period was super electric and the power plays are always tense, but I was a little bit like, get something going here, guys.
Starting point is 00:30:41 The third period in particular, I was just, I was kind of bored. Okay, okay. So then we go to Game 7. Yeah. And John Cooper, I happened to be watching because I was rewinding everything,
Starting point is 00:30:50 had a interview before the game that ended up being very prophetic where he said, he goes, I've been in a lot of game sevens. And some of them, I can be man. enough to admit we weren't the better team and we lost in that game. But some of them, I feel like we were the better team and we lost and that's game seven.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And I was like, holy hell, dude, this was one of the great beat downs I have ever seen in playoff hockey legitimately. Yeah. I have never seen a team just dominate a playoff game. I was like, oh my God, this is insane. Yeah. And then they lose. It's like, holy shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Nightmare fuel of your tam-a. In my honest to God opinion. the well I was doing hockey talk yeah in the morning and a bunch of people were like what do you call on and I like a coward
Starting point is 00:31:37 I was like I can't call it like I really don't know I had a strange feeling that Montreal was going to take this and it's because before the game yes which is such a bit
Starting point is 00:31:50 bullshit thing for me to say when I literally on the story I couldn't say who was going to win because I felt I was like am I just being an idiot I thought it before the game too that that that's And the reason I felt that was because of Dobesh.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah. Because Vassie stole one, right? Vassi stole one in game six. But I was like, Dobech was so good in that game six. And I was like, I feel like he might come in and be like, fuck you, I'm getting mine now too. Yep. And they come out. Tampa's flying all over them.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Shots are 10 to 2. I changed my vote to Tampa immediately. I was like, oh, this is a bloodbath. And when Zook scored, I look at it. at Gavin and I went, that is game. If you're getting shit pumped like this in a game seven, Tampa's all over you at home and they score that goal, I was like,
Starting point is 00:32:41 that is going to suck the life out of this team. And it didn't necessarily do that. Yeah, I was going to say, but I was like, this is over. Like Montreal is winning this game. Dude, funny, because I, that thought entered my brain.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And then when Tampa came out and literally, the Habs didn't have a shot in the second period, I went like this. Oh, this damn. is going to break. Tampa's going to tie it this period eventually and then probably win 3-1. And then Tampa did tie it and I was like, literally I would have put my mortgage on the both.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah, because I was like, Montreal might not shoot again. Yeah, this is a fucking joke. You did think once the seal was broken, maybe they're going to get a second quick. But yeah, then when it was just a shootout, you know, then when it went. Then when it was just a stalemate and it was just won one forever.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And I was like, baseball bat one in from behind the goal line. You're like, then I was like, dude, the two Montreal goals are a tip that was going 10 feet wide that hit a bolt and a baseball bat in from the back. I am so glad that you brought that up because I would like to talk about this. The, man, I think I might be mean to Tampa Bay fans today. I think you have some stuff that you've talked about to me about Tampa that I want you to say that it's completely correct. I think this take, or I'm guessing, I haven't heard this, I think I'm going to disagree with this take because maybe it is mean to Tampa fans.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Let us be very clear. first and foremost, was that tip going wide? Yes, of course it was going wide. And that was the first period. Yeah. The amount of shit I was seeing online of already boo-hooing
Starting point is 00:34:15 and making excuses from Tampa fans being unbelievable that this game seven is going to get dictated by puck luck like that. It was the first period. And I'll add, that is game, that's why you don't get to a game seven. Tampa has no one to blame with themselves that they're even in game seven.
Starting point is 00:34:32 So you should have been, if you care, you should have won this series already. You went down, you had to force a game seven. When you get to game seven, you can't be upset because pucks go in. Like this is, that's one game. That's how the world works. So my take on this was, listen, it was going wide, yes. My take is that is still a good tip. You agree with that?
Starting point is 00:34:58 Well, it's a great tip because he changed direction on a puck that Vassie was tracking. Like, I'm kind of of the attitude that literally any tip is a good tip. You can get your stick on the puck, it's a good tip. And here's the thing, man, here's a fucking newsflash for people. When you tip a puck, you are trying to tip the puck, change its direction towards the net. Create chaos. And hope anything can happen. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Obviously, I'm not saying Suzuki was like, I'm going to tip this. and then hopefully it hits another guy's shin and goes in. He's trying to tip it on net. But the goal of being a net front person, tipping a puck, is to put it towards the net and hope something happens. That worked. He redirected that puck,
Starting point is 00:35:39 and then it hit someone's shin pad and went in. That is lucky. But it's not lucky that he tipped it towards the net. That is skill. He did his job. Yeah, yeah. And then he got a little bit of an assist. But what bothers me is there were a lot.
Starting point is 00:35:56 lot of fans acting like Suzuki is just bumbling around in front of the net and randomly it hits him then someone else and goes in. No, Suzuki made a hockey play putting the puck towards the net and then there was puck luck off the shit. But I reject anyone discrediting the play by Suzuki. Suzuki made a high talent, high IQ hockey play that then had some puck luck and went into the net. And I would say the same with the second one.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Okay. I disagree. Okay. Anything that puck out of mid-air towards the net is high talent, high-scale. Oh, but New Hook is trying to bank that off of Vasi. 100%. Yeah, I think that's probably right. How many goals have we seen where guys come, if you see the goalie out in their crease
Starting point is 00:36:49 and you're behind the net, how many times have we seen it in the NHL where guys throw it off their back? Yeah, all the time. Like that is a play. If you're in the NHL, you're good at hockey. folks. This isn't fucking Wednesday Beer League. That is a play where Newhook looks
Starting point is 00:37:04 up, sees him, and is like I'm throwing this at the net. He's out of his net. This could hit him and go in. Is there always an element of luck in that? Sure, I imagine. Now, I did see a bunch of people being like, the luck happened before when it bounced around behind the net and then
Starting point is 00:37:20 it came to him. I'm like, is that not hockey? Dude, half the goals this playoffs have gone in off the endboard. Like, literally hits the endboard and something insane happens. Yeah. So listen, I will show sympathy to Tampa fans, no doubt, that those are two unusual goals. Yep. And there's no question, and I'm not denying that. I just don't like chalking it up as, like, such a bullshit game.
Starting point is 00:37:41 We got so unlucky. Guys, the Habs, players are going out there, and they're making fucking plays. If these were things, guys, where every now and then you see someone dumps a puck in, right? And the goalie goes to go behind the net, and then it hits weird off the stanchion and reder X in, that I would be like, yeah, that's bullshit. Yeah. These are both plays made by Canadians players where they're making plays putting the puck towards the net for a goal.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yep. They're unusual goals, no doubt about it. And I have sympathy for you in that regard. But just don't discredit the talent that it takes to make those plays. They are plays to get a shot on net. They're not random, like, oh, I was actually passing it, and it deflected off five skates and went in. Both of those plays where I'm trying to take.
Starting point is 00:38:27 take a shot on net to score a goal. And maybe Dan, Tampa, and I think they had 29 shots. And I was talking to our boy David, actually, and he was like, that's the best Tampa's played in months. And I completely agree. Like, legitimately, it's the best they've played all series and the best they've looked in so long. So then they had, again, 29 shots, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But maybe they go, maybe we should just start getting more to the net. Yeah. Because Dobish has been incredible and deserves all his flowers. And I think the killer, to try to defend Tampa fans a little bit, is I believe that. he goes, in game six, he gets a shutout. And then in game seven, he goes, I'm going to get a shut out again, because I assure you, no normal shot will get past me tonight, I promise you that. And then one tip ricochets off his defenseman, and then one puck gets baseball batted from behind
Starting point is 00:39:12 the net, hits him in the arm, hits him in the leg, and goes in. And he goes, no way we're going to lose. Because of this. Right. And then all of the Tampa forwards go, yep, Kooch goes, I have zero points in seven career game sevens. We are going to lose. And I'm like, holy hell, dude.
Starting point is 00:39:26 It is also so tough, Chris, that the... That is true. He was like, I'm not letting a shot in. It is tough sledding for him that there were fucking nine shots. Yeah, it just looks so shitty. You look like such a bum. Yeah, until you see the highlights, and then I go... Yeah, look, you see the highlights.
Starting point is 00:39:45 There's the Cooch stat. 007, dude. Seven game sevens, zero goals, zero assists. So, yeah, it's a tough look for Vassian. And this is a perfect opportunity. now to let's get into the conversation about Tampa. Yep. I posted last night, I was like, you and I have been some of the biggest
Starting point is 00:40:08 cooch defenders of all times. Yes. And we just glazed, glaze, glaze, we had a full conversation. Was that last year or this year where we said he might be the best Russian player? I think it was this year. And what's funny is regular season, that is way more of a conversation than many of you would like to admit. Regular season, he is.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I don't need to get into this again, but we're a cycle. But I was like, we are massive cooch glazers. We have to have a conversation about Cooch. And I'm positioning this now, and we're going to talk about Cooch, we're going to talk about Cooper, we're going to talk about Vassie, we're going to talk about Tampa in general. Yep. Because this one is no disrespect to the Habs, great fucking team. This one you have zero excuses for. And, dude, I want a little, a little slack on my stance at the start of the series,
Starting point is 00:41:01 because now that it's happened, I feel like this is the narrative. Like I said, if you lose to the fucking habs in the first round, you are fucked. And now everyone's like, God, Tampa is fucked. I think, I know. The reason I push back on you is because you said you were embarrassed. And I was like, I think that's disrespectful to Montreal. But I'm with you 100% in that I'm like, you got some spleen in to do. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:23 So who do you want to start with? Um, Vassie. Okay. Let's start with Vassi. I think based on what you said, I, I am not ready to give him shit. Me neither. He only had nine shots on net, and he gave up two. That sucks, but both were.
Starting point is 00:41:46 We're insane. Both were, the first was not saveable. Correct. The second, I think he made another bad poke check attempt. Okay. And then got himself out of position, and then that went in. But either way, it was still walking. Shudder in game six.
Starting point is 00:42:02 He's been, but he's been leaky in playoffs. Like, you look at his stats since 2023. It's not good. No doubt about it. So that part I will talk about for the last four playoff series, you have not been what everyone hails you to be. The likely Vesna winner. Yes. Everyone is like, you are Mr. Kahn-Smith.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah. You are the guy. last four playoffs sorry not playoff series last four playoffs last four years in playoffs you have not been the guy that everyone talks about us um okay
Starting point is 00:42:35 cooch Nikita kuturov when I posted that it was very interesting I think 50 50 split there were some I actually do have a funny screenshot Zach that I'm going to show with you on this
Starting point is 00:42:55 50-50 split Tampa fans being like I am a Tampa fan I completely agree and then there are the Cooch defenders which I totally get who were like are you fucking kidding me dude
Starting point is 00:43:09 like he's still blah blah blah he's still this he's still bad we are massive Cooch fans we always defend him we think he should have won MVP the last three years yeah there is no denying that
Starting point is 00:43:25 Here's the other thing. Save for two when he was only one point shy, he is point per game or more in his playoff career every single season of playoffs. That is remarkable. Yep. We are talking about the Kooch standard. It's the Christopher Nolan's thing.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dark Night Rises, Tenet, not the best movies for Christopher Nolan movies. For movies in general, they're incredible. But for his standard, they're not the best. Cooch, in these playoffs, having seven points in seven games, that's great. You would kill for that.
Starting point is 00:44:00 But when you're Nikita Kuturov, and the team depends on you like this, and you have one goal in 22, your last 22 playoff games, two goals in like 24 or whatever, that is not good enough per your standards. That is a simple fact. So when I tweet, like, we got to have a conversation about Nikita Kuturov.
Starting point is 00:44:28 R.A., shout out R.A. He was like, so that erases his entire legacy? And I was like, no, dude. And when did I ever say that in, quote, we need to have a conversation about Kuturov? That's me literally just saying, let's have a conversation. And Merles, who we almost brought in on this episode, Merles was like, dude, like 100%.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Like, did he get his cups? And now he's like, fuck it. I don't care. Because that's a question. It's a question. And to just put it in. terms sometimes when you go I mean we say it's about Tuka all the time
Starting point is 00:44:58 who I fucking love and think is one of the greatest goalies to ever to ever lace them up in the HL you go your stats are fucking amazing but sometimes in that position you just need a fucking save you need to you need to bail me out because we sock and we give a breakway and you got to save it
Starting point is 00:45:14 Cooch the Tampa Bay Lightning rely on Cooch to score high leverage heavy dick goals in times when we go oh fuck We are out shooting the haves a billion to five, but we're losing, and we might lose this season. I need you to just go, I got us. Let me just score, and then we'll get to overtime, and we can win, and we'll grind them down, whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Those are the goals that the super, super, superstars are required to score. It is a tough job. Not everyone can do it, but that's why you do it. And I just want to say this, Dan, because, again, we're not having this conversation. but Alex Ovechkin, 147 career points in 161 playoff games. Yeah. So, you know, decently under point per game. Cooch, 177 points in 159 playoff games, decently over.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So I'm like, he has been great, but you look, those cup years, the three years in a row, 34 points led playoffs, 32 points, led playoffs, 27 points since then, and granted first round exits, but it's like six, seven, four, six. And it's like, oh, dude, you used to dominate here. Yeah. Not just hamet point per game with all apples. Yep. Right?
Starting point is 00:46:28 So it's like, oh, man, dude, that, you are missing that. Yeah. And again, it's not easy to dominate in the National Hockey League. But I think you are Nikita fucking Kutrov. Dominate. Okay, completely agree with that. And so I saw a couple of these replies. A bunch of people were going, well, it doesn't help that point is a ghost.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yep. That is true. But we, I kept saying, Point better have a dislocated spine. Bro. Based on how he is playing. I mean. I feel bad for him, but he must be here.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And that's not me chirping point. I'm saying like, I would imagine that Braden Point is insanely injured. Yep. Because Braden Point is a remarkably talented player and he is not playing well at all. He's not doing anything. Cooch.
Starting point is 00:47:20 knows that. Whatever's going on with point, Kooch is aware of. So if you are as good as Nikita Kutrov, it is your responsibility to level up and be like, points hurt, I can't rely on him, I got to do some shit.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And look what he did all the end of the regular season with point just as hurt. Five points a game. And you saw his goal in game two that we were at in the way he celebrated. He was like, fucking, Jesus, getting the monkey off my back. I got to score.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I got to perform. Unfortunately, it's still there. So, yeah. Yeah. So I don't accept the point injury excuse for Cooch here. And there were a couple comments, people being like, dude, like, look at him on the empty knuckle. Like he's, uh, there wasn't an empty knuckle in this game, but like it was like a couple games
Starting point is 00:48:05 ago or whatever. He's just like dog in it. He's like, he's visibly frustrated. His body language is this and that. So I'm like, yeah, man. I'm sorry. We're having a conversation. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And it doesn't take away how fucking. insanely good he is, how good he is in the regular season, how good he's been in the playoffs. But if we're going to talk about these guys as the best in the league, top three player in the world, you cannot do this in the playoffs for as many years in a row as you have. He's 33 years old. He's had two hip surgeries. That's a factor for sure. But at the same time, he's 33 years old.
Starting point is 00:48:42 He still scores 100 fucking 40 points every year. Yeah, exactly. So I'm like, I'm not going to accept that really either. This is, you're, and I'm saying this as not talking shit about Cooch or to Cooch. I think he's fucking insane. I'm saying it from a standpoint of, I bet he's frustrated too. You hear those interviews during the regular season where he's like, I fucking just love hockey, man. I bet he is pissed.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And I bet he would tell you I am not pleased with the way I've performed in the last four playoffs years. So it is what it is. 100%. Cooper, you can't fire. You can't fire. You cannot fire Cooper. There were a couple of people, one of our great internet friends,
Starting point is 00:49:25 he's an Oilers fan. He was like, John Cooper, welcome to Edmonton. Yeah. And I was like, could you fucking imagine leaving Tampa and going to Edmonton? What an awful coaching decision that would be. No, no, not even because of that. Literally because of your lifestyle. Like, I think he's literally, like, built his whole life.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I mean, like, largely said Tampa. I would shed so many tears on behalf of John. John Cooper. If he gets fired and then takes the Edmonton job, I would be like, Jesus Christ, dude. Dude, you can't, good coaches are such a commodity in this league and you can't. I've learned this late in our hockey covering career. You just can't lose them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Like it's literally, unless the team. Can I pause real quick? Yep. Just on Twitter. Another great friend on Twitter. We just tweeted, is Kooch no longer reliable in playoffs? And this person says, this implies he ever was. Those are the comments on the other side where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:50:22 are you guys trolling or are you delusional? Because just do yourself a favor and look at the two Stanley Cups he has and look at his numbers. And you can answer your own comment and question. So that is where I'm like, we are having the conversation. But when I said, no, of course not. We're not talking about his legacy. He's been incredible.
Starting point is 00:50:41 We're talking about the what have you done for me lately reality? So yeah, we agree on Cooper. You cannot fire Cooper. I didn't love his post games. I didn't see the post game. Dude, he did a couple of things where he went. He was like, the hockey gods have been in my corner time and time and time again. And they weren't in my corner tonight.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yep. Fine. He then said something like sometimes you win the game, but not the score. Which I know I think that take, but they did. He referenced Milan, too. He goes, it happened to me in February and Milan and it happened tonight. kind of a tough year for Coop honestly
Starting point is 00:51:21 you know Coop is one of the great coaches in our game I'm a little I'm a little tired of this too cool for school shit
Starting point is 00:51:31 these little quotes the like calm demeanor he has dude I there is nothing lamer to me nothing lamer
Starting point is 00:51:42 than we won that game when you lost you fucking lost yep yes Did you outplay them? No doubt, dude. But you lost.
Starting point is 00:51:52 So miss me with your little fucking cheeky quotes about how you were so much better but you lost the game. Because at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is the fucking scoreboard. And ours currently reads, fucked. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So I don't give a shit. Those little quotes, they don't make me feel better as a player. They don't make me feel better as a fan. You fucking lost. You have a silver medal hanger on your neck. quit talking about how you are the better team. You are out of the playoffs. Quit talking about how you lost the score, but you won the game.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Show me some fucking fire. Get up there and go, we every year talk about how we're one of the best teams in the league, how we're one of the best franchises in hockey. We have been fucking bounced in the first round four years in a row. Is it four or is it three? Yeah, yeah, four. Once by the Leafs. Four years in a row.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Talk about that. Talk about how you're pissed. Talk about how every year you've got a heart finalist. You've got a Vesna finalist. And you've lost in the first round four years in a row. And that's fucking unacceptable bullshit. I want to hear that. I don't want to hear this like, hey, I know I'm just, you know, talking you down.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I know it's frustrating. Fuck that, dude. Get fucking fired up for me because this shit is not acceptable. And that leads me, unless you have something more to say about that. just that nothing I've always said to you nothing makes me happier than when an athlete or coach is in the post game saying some shit that they will kind of regret
Starting point is 00:53:25 where they're like I'm gonna fucking kill myself I'm so fucking fuming mad this is the most pissed I've ever been in my fucking light because I know they're just in the moment but I'm like thank you because as a fan if I care this much which is probably unhealthy but if I care this much certainly I want the player
Starting point is 00:53:43 to be feeling it even more than me So I kind of hear you when they come out going and I'm not just saying coop When any of them come out and go you know You live another day and I'm like I know that we'll live another day But can we just be fucking bummed and furious right now? Thank you So I I was talking to my buddy Dave Panthers fan
Starting point is 00:54:05 And obviously he hates Tampa Yeah The last bit I have on this is Tampa Last year clown noses we got caught up in the hype of how good they were in the regular season
Starting point is 00:54:19 and we picked them to beat the cats specifically because we thought the cats were going to be way more injured than they were. Yep. This year we picked them I think we both had them in seven over Montreal.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I think I had six but yeah. We both picked them to win this series because they were so good. I do not let me preface this with the Mickey Mouse Cups take yeah. Dude, I hate it.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I cannot stand when fans try to discredit Tampa Bay's Cup because of the bubble. If you think hockey players gave a shit about COVID and the bubble, you're fucking out of your mind. And also, I don't care about the division breakdown and how Canada had their own conference and Montreal was in that cup final when they maybe shouldn't have been. It's the cup final. It doesn't fucking matter. They're NHL players. They're good teams.
Starting point is 00:55:12 they made playoffs and it happened how it happened. Their cups are legitimate. There is no debating that. And I also don't care about a bunch of people are being like this. You know, I saw a tweet today that was like Tampa when they're not 20 million over the cap and it was a picture of the Leafs.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Yeah. Good chirp. Good chirp. But in years past, the cap rules were the cap rules. Your fucking team could have done it too. Vegas did it. And your team got fucking spanked by the table. Tampa Bay Lightning.
Starting point is 00:55:43 So shut the fuck up with that. Their cups are their cups. That said, the way we talk about this team and then being this Titanic team in the East every single year. And now here we are, four straight first round losses. We need to recalibrate the way we talk about the bolts. And because it is a what have you done for me lately league and world and fucking life. And you can't keep walking around with a 50.
Starting point is 00:56:12 50 pound cock like you are the biggest guy on the playground when you've lost four years in row in the first round. Dude, I was giving those to take the lead. Do you want to talk some hockey? No. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. We do got the flyers next.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Okay, well. The hurricanes are very good. I think we should get him in here. Yeah. Hold on. We're almost done. Okay. Literally the last thing I was going to say is Tampa, how many minutes you think Tampa was
Starting point is 00:56:37 leading game six, which they won? Oh, zero. Zero. Yeah. How many minutes were they leading game seven? Yeah. Zero. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:43 They spent five. of the seven games in the series with zero leads. You want to recalibrate something? I have never recalibrated anything harder than the Montreal Canadiens after I saw Marty St. Louis doing the Wolf of Wall Street. Holy shit. Dude, I was fucking fully torched. I could not be more in on the halves after I saw him doing the we're not fucking leaving
Starting point is 00:57:02 thing. That was amazing. Buffalo Montreal is going to feed families. So I got to start this one. So you have your prediction that you already wrote? Yeah. Buffalo Montreal Buffalo Montreal
Starting point is 00:57:15 I'm starting I'm going Habs in seven strictly because of Doebish I think he's I think he's touching touching something hot right now I have habs in seven as well
Starting point is 00:57:29 and dude and it's funny on the bachelor party I was on I was talking to the bachelor's brother Matt and we were like he was like I think if Tampa wins Tampa will or will beat Buffalo or will lose to Buffalo
Starting point is 00:57:43 but if Montreal wins, Montreal will be Buffalo. And I was like, I actually think you're right. And this is so tough because I have so many good buddies who love the Habs and I love that city and that team. I want Buffalo for the story because it's just like holy shit, but I fear the goalie play. But Lion, I don't know, we'll get into them in a second. I agree. I think game one, I've said this a few times and it's been true. I think game one tells us a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:05 A lot, a lot, a lot. But right now the goalie play is absolutely in the hands of Montreal. And I love that for them. Zach, is this mic work? Yeah, it's all good. Come on in, Lox. Wow. Gavin McHugh, nephew of Liam McHugh, you know, from TNT.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yep. That's my uncle. Look, little Flyers talk, dude, this is awesome. Who else? Who has it better than us right here, right now? No, absolutely no one. The Flyers vanquished Sidney Crosby and the Penguins. Correct.
Starting point is 00:58:37 All-time series. Who felt a little like they were a little overrated going into the playoffs. Yeah, but you got scared, though, when the Penguins Oh, yeah. I mean, it would be. Philly fashion to go up, you know, 3-0, and then all of a sudden you're staring up in a barrel, 3-2. Okay, so then, dude, now you get the Keynes.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Can we talk about the world we're living in right now, Bruins's dead, Celtics, dead. Flyers and Sixers never be more alive. That's why there's a little bit of life where I actually kind of believe in the flies, because there's something going on in Philly. There's something going on in the city of Philly. So, dude, the Keynes had the best record in the East. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Every year they look like a juggernaught entering the playoffs. Every year they blow it at some point. They lose at some point. Yep. After coming into this year, I was like maybe this is where this happens. Maybe they go fuck, we got clipped by the Flyers. Game one, the Keynes looked very good.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Yes. How do you respond? However, when you look at it on paper, like the Flyers actually played a pretty good game. Yeah. And like the shots on goal and obviously they're the more aggressive team. They're actually getting the hits and you know, I feel like they are going to be able to bounce back in this series. Vladie, goalie, he's a dog. He's fucking 20 feet tall.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I mean, dude, I'm talking May the Fourth be with you, Darth Lidar. Oh shit. Darth Lodar. Like this is his mom. Do they go a day? And you know what's so funny? I was so excited to play the hurricanes for the exact reason that you just said. Because every year the hurricanes are buzzing going into the playoff.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And then, you know, a team like in the east, it's been nothing but lightning, panthers. You know, like the fucking kings never do dick. Never do dick, dude. And that's why I was excited now that the flyers buzzing. They have a little bit of momentum. That's the only thing you need in hockey. And I feel like they could bounce back. I mean, the shots on goal.
Starting point is 01:00:11 It's not like they got like fleeced game. one, trust me. I am like, uh, locks is dialed on hockey, yeah. That's incredible. I mean, I'm, I'm pretty, I'm a bot when it comes to hockey, but, dude, you know what I liked? Because the canes went up, um, I think they're up two oh in the first, they go up
Starting point is 01:00:27 3-0. Yeah. After that, because dude, the penguins were, uh, on paper, a more skilled team. They had more goals in the regic, you know, like everything should have, they should have rolled. Yeah. And the flyers mocked it up. Yeah. Yeah. And in this game, they have to do the same. I thought they came out the
Starting point is 01:00:44 started this game and we're trying to play fast-paced and they were getting hemmed in and the canes went up then the third period they went back to the right back to the script it was like there was scrums everybody fucking taylor hall's in a fight everybody's in a fight and i was like 10 to 10 to two shots on goal for the flyers in the third year and i was like you don't want this yeah you don't want but they let themselves do it and i was like if you play this game you will lose you know the well hold on i'll say this because that is how philly beat pit yes made them play a different game they got to stick to the script yes and they did that too late in this case.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yes. Like when you're saying Carolina doesn't want that, when you're up three nothing, I love it when a team is trying to muck because I'm like this, you're a desperate little bitch, right? You're a turtle on your back.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Yeah. game. There'd be the times where Ottawa would tie it and then boom, goal. Yep. Like Carolina was, I think I said they're playing with their food a little bit. I do think this Carolina team is so much better than that pit team in that if it is a muck fest and Philly like squeaks in a goal, they're good enough to get like to get their head out of the mud and tie it or get the lead back. So I think it's going to be a combo.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Philly does need to be Philly. Yep. And they need to muck it up. But you also have guys like Trevor Zegris. You have guys like Owen Tippett. You have guys like TK. They got a score too. Like they need to be, get, like, start, drag them into the mud,
Starting point is 01:02:23 but then let your talent show in the mud too. Because you're, I don't think you're going to be. You've got mud guys and you got goal guys. Yeah, my point is you're not going to beat Carolina one nothing. You're not going to beat them two one. Like you need to score while playing in the mud. Yeah. The Flyers are the St. Johns of the NHL.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Totally. You know, they're St. Johns. You need to be. play your style of game. It's going to have to be gritty. You can't fall far behind because this is not a team that's going to claw back from fucking down 3-0. You know,
Starting point is 01:02:53 once, it's immediate deep waters once the flyers go down two goals, let alone three. Yeah, so like they just need to see one go through the bucket early. And that's when I feel like you give this team a little bit of life in a game and they start to believe a little bit. That's what happened in the Penguin series.
Starting point is 01:03:08 All of a sudden it was 3-0. So I feel like, I feel like that first game, they kind of go back to the drawing board they understand that they didn't necessarily play their style they're trying to play a little bit up obviously nerves game one new series young kids I feel like now game two you reset
Starting point is 01:03:23 go back to the drawing board you fucking beat you fucking beat those cowards down in Carolina and locks fuck fuck the her chickens dude locks the canes haven't lost yet in playoffs like they shut up dude you you want to see them bleed like when they lose how are they going to respond to their first loss in playoffs you know plus the flyers are coming off a very
Starting point is 01:03:42 high, high emotion win. Yeah. So true. Not only did they just make the playoffs, they just won a series against their biggest rival. Like, yeah, it was a little bit of a letdown spot then having to pack the bags, travel,
Starting point is 01:03:56 go on the road and play Carolina. I mean, now game two, like I said, you reset, you reset and you get things leveled out. Flyers and seven. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Flyers and seven. That's incredible, dude. Incredible. All right. All right. Fliars, go Flyers. Go six.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I love it. Fuck the next. Fuck everyone. Have a good one. Thank you. Fuck. Fuck the next. Dan,
Starting point is 01:04:19 let me read you this. Absolutely. Because I think this is incredible. We've been talking about this a lot on this pot. Because now we should, now that Lox is left, we should say the Cains are incredible. I was about to say,
Starting point is 01:04:30 and Lox has gone. Cains in five. Dude, two things for me. That Kianre Miller play on, on Garnett's Breaker. away? Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Was one of the great Superman dives just getting the puck. I'm bitching about penalty shots and the Gensel play. I was like incoming, this was the
Starting point is 01:04:51 most clear incoming penalty shot I've ever seen. That is one of the great one of the greatest plays of ever seen. The only play better was Hegel's saved on Slavkovsky.
Starting point is 01:04:59 That was the most miraculous thing I've ever seen in my life. But that Keandre play was insane, dude. So that was nuts. Stank scores 97-Hod.
Starting point is 01:05:10 The Canes have played five games in the playoffs. Stank has opened the scoring in four of them, not for his team for the game. And let me give you this fucking awesome stat that you were unaware of. And I would like your brain to become aware of it because, and I would like everybody in the chat's brain to become aware of it before you run your mouth and make a fool of yourself six times a fool before you can acquire this information.
Starting point is 01:05:35 This is also from our boy Dennis. Okay. Marty Natchez, 59 postseason games with the Keynes. 59 postseason games with the Cains, 11 goals. Miko Rant. It is... I was going on. What?
Starting point is 01:05:51 I was going to say, it is funny how, like... Sometimes I forget that Natchez played for the Cains. Yeah. Which is ridiculous. Marty Natchez, 59 postseason games with the Cain's 11 goals. Miko Rantan, 24 postseason games with Dallas. 10 goals.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Stank Man. 20 postseason games of the Cain's 11 goals. Yeah? And people being like, oh my God. People bringing up the trade a lot, man. Like who won the trade? 11 goals in 20 playoff games. We're talking about cooch.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Where's got a score, got to score. All this guy does is score. All he's done is score at every level he's ever played. And the bigger the moment gets, the bigger he gets, which is hilarious because he's five foot, nothing. Yeah. But he's got 11 goals in 20 playoff games. It's unbelievable. If he's going to continue to do that, the canes look fucking money.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Yeah, they sure do. Listen, we said the flyers are playing with house money. getting into the playoffs, beaten pit, this is just such a win and an exciting time for them. Someone asked on Hockey Talk yesterday, is Carolina actually really good
Starting point is 01:06:53 or are they just playing bad teams? And I was like, that's a great question. Because senators aren't bad. Senators are not a bad team. They are not bad, but they were a wild card team. I think they would have given other teams
Starting point is 01:07:05 way more trouble than they gave the canes. I agree. But again, I said it's a great question because, you currently look at the fact that they are 5 and 0 in the playoffs. Yeah, right. And the Flyers, while a
Starting point is 01:07:17 three-seed, were felt like a wild card. Totally, totally. So, I think it's a great question. I think this win was so impressive and so important for Carolina because they took care of Ottawa,
Starting point is 01:07:33 but as I, well, I've said so many times now, it was a weird, they were just like letting Ottawa hang around and then they would just be them. Coming out here, not getting dragged into the mud fight. Freddie pitching a fucking shutout.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Dude. It was, that was just Freddy! And I mean, dude, a 3-0-0-0 win in round two is so much more impressive than a 9-6 win in round two. And that's not me comparing Carolina and the Colorado of what I'm talking about what a tale of two games, right?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Two games, you're looking at that 9-6 game, and when you're Colorado, you come into that locker room, you go, Jesus Christ, boys. Yeah. You come in after a 3-0 winning in round two, and you're like, oh, we are fucking, we are a wagon. Yep. We are a wagon. And Carolina is
Starting point is 01:08:23 a wagon. Stank, being red-hot, is huge. Jarvie needs to get going. I know. He's got some shoulder shit going on, but like he's still making plays. He's such a good player. Great play on Stank. Second one. He doesn't need to be all over the score sheet to be an impact player. They do need it.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Whereas a guy, like Cooch does need to be all over the score sheet to be an impact player. Jarvie kills penalties. He's great five on five. He's blocking shots. He does everything. He is blocking shots. So he does need to get going here. And I believe he is going to get.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Like, this is what I said yesterday. Not the player you need to worry about. Yeah. Like, but can we just fucking stroke off Taylor Hall for a second? Well, dude. He was part of all that too. my my Taylor Hall
Starting point is 01:09:13 stance is I think Taylor Hall has made the conscious decision at this point in his career to go I've won a heart trophy I was the first overall pick I am a talented player
Starting point is 01:09:28 even though he's what 34 yeah probably 34 yeah I think 34 he is a talented player he knows on this team with guys like Ah-ho, Jarvie, Eelers, Stank.
Starting point is 01:09:44 He doesn't need to be a 70-80-point guy. He's happy being a 50-60-point guy. But then he goes, I'm going to do that because I'm going to save it, and in playoffs I'm going to elevate. He is elevated in playoffs the last three years. It's been awesome. And it's amazing. I get eyes on the first period in this game just because I want to see the Flyers.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Did the Flyers unlock something? Or were the canes just on the brakes? because they were like, whatever, it's 3-0. You guys are fucking little, little baby boys. Little baby boys. Okay, you're first on this one. Cains, Flyers. What do you got?
Starting point is 01:10:16 Cains in five. Give me Cains in six. I think Flyers, I think the Flyers can muck it up enough, but I am going Cains in six. Okay, Bruins Sabers. Brewing Sabers. Game six. Masterclass again if the Bruins are going to win we need a sway shutout. It's got to be this way And then which is tough because it's like it just feels like he's always going to do that
Starting point is 01:10:47 You know there's no there's no wiggle room and then bang Great play by Dahlia but Alex Tuck scores Fucking four minutes into the game and we were all like on all of our threads are like well Yeah goodbye that's that's probably night night which is insane four minutes into a hockey game But it literally just felt like you would have to keep Buffalo to one goal the entire game to somehow win and if they're gonna score that fast, we in big trouble. So then, oh yeah, after that, or there was the disallowed goal, which I forget who batted that in, but there was the disallowed goal, so you're already a little leaky or a little shaky,
Starting point is 01:11:20 a little nervous, but then middle stat gets a breakaway. And at this point in the game, I think it was the Bruin's second shot. The game was 4-1, by the way, I said fine. Okay. It was the Bruin's second shot on goal, that middle-stap breakaway. And you're going, oh, wow, Buffalo's controlling play, they're already winning. this is a nightmare. That is the type of goal that if that ties the game there, Boston, the crowd gets back into it. Boston goes, wow, we're getting so outplayed and it's one-one.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Who cares? Changes the entire combustion of the game. So this is my first opportunity of many to just absolutely bow down to Alex Lyon and the plays he's made. And I was just talking about this earlier, you just need a save sometimes. You just need a huge save. When you go, whoops, sorry, we fucked up. Please just give us this one save. This guy has been doing that since he went in. He's making the saves in those pivotal moments that can change the course of the game. No doubt. He gives it to you every time. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I'm going to stroke off the sabers real quick because really the only things I have to say in this game or in this series are all about the Bruins. Okay. Sabers are incredible. I pick them in six. I'm happy to have gotten that right. Yep. You did two? No, I have B's in seven.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Oh, yeah. Like, Tuck is going. Tage could be going a little bit more, but he's still just. He's contributing, though. Everyone has answered the bell of, like, how are playoffs going to be for you guys? Because this Bruins team is great. And they're tough out. And you knock them down, you're dealing with a red-hot sway.
Starting point is 01:12:52 And, like, even in this game, man, like, he only gave up three goals. And this felt very similar to game four for me. Yeah. The boys just, you get out shot 12-6 in the first period on home ice. In an elimination game. The boys have just hung out, sway out to drive. multiple times in this series, which is tough. But then again, we also hear they are so fucking hurt.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Like, everyone was dead for the Bruins. And I know everyone is, but like some significant injuries for the Bruins. But the Sabres have just answered every question. And I absolutely love it. And I'm so excited for this series. I know I picked Montreal and seven. But I said I was like, I want Buffalo to win. Me too.
Starting point is 01:13:30 And it's like, it can so go both ways on that one. Like, I think that's going to get to game seven. And it's going to be like Montreal Tampa, I'm like, this is a quaint book. Both these teams are amazing. The big thing for them is goal tending. And Lyons stepping in and being as good as he has been in these last several games is remarkable. So I want to get to the Bruins.
Starting point is 01:13:49 First and foremost, because most of what I have to say is, like, them, their team as moving forward, we got to discuss Chuckie Wirecross. That was incredibly insane. I said this yesterday on the story. Can't do that. Yep. Not okay. Wires cross moment for sure. And I'm going to get Charlie is, Charlie can be a rat.
Starting point is 01:14:15 And I've said this. Yeah, in a good way. I love this about it. Yep. I love rats. I think rats are so important in hockey. And Charlie is definitely a rat when he wants to be. This fucking guy has been through so much this season.
Starting point is 01:14:29 One of the most dramatic seasons I've ever seen for a player in my entire life. I mean, the injuries, the pucks to the face, the jaw breaking, the teeth loss. All of this shit is insane. What he did was so unacceptable. He will get at least five game suspension, as he should. You cannot come in and tomahawk someone. That said, Zach Benson's slewfoot was a piece of shit move. You know how I feel about slew footing.
Starting point is 01:14:55 It is the biggest pussy thing you can do in hockey, in my opinion. And Zach Benson was a rat this series. And the fact that he scored in that game too was so awesome. And I just said I love it about Charlie being a rat. I love it about Benson being a rat. Benson being the size that he is, the player that he is, and leaning into a rat role is, like that's Brad Marchand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Like that's bull-benson could be Brad Marchand for the Buffalo Sabres. That's exciting. I love him being a rat. Keep doing it. Don't fucking slew-foot people. And when you're winning a game, I think it was four, it might have been four-one at that point. Going in and slew-footing Charlie, that was fucking trash behavior.
Starting point is 01:15:33 So I say that to say, I get why Charlie was so pissed. Me too. You're about to get eliminated. You've had the season that you've had. And then this fucking guy slew-foot's you. My wires would have crossed you. You just can't Tomahawks.
Starting point is 01:15:47 So I think Benson should get suspended. One game. I think, but if he doesn't, whatever, Charlie absolutely will get suspended and should get suspended. But, yeah, understandable wires cross, but you just can't do that. Yes. So some things for me.
Starting point is 01:16:03 me on the Bruins big picture. They're, first of all, they go 0 and 3 at home, right, in the playoffs. And from nine minutes left in the game, when it's 2-1 Buffalo, till the empty net goal goes in, which went in with like three-something, the Bruins didn't have a shot. Shot attempt. I know. So bad.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And I'm like, you're down one. And if you lose, you're eliminated. And you're at home. And it's the third period. This is the end of the game. This is the last nine minutes of the game. And they didn't shoot the puck. that is so unacceptable.
Starting point is 01:16:34 It's hard for me to even wrap my head around that stat. What do you think about this, too? This is nothing, and this is me being a boomer a bit. But I, the power plays were, the sabres were 0 for four. Bruins did not get one. And that also happened to the Edmonton elimination game. They did not get one. And the ducks got three or two.
Starting point is 01:16:54 In my opinion, infractions are committed all the time. Yeah, of course. It's not like there's no team has ever literally played a clean hockey game. And I'm not saying they need to be dead even, but I am just like you got to even that up a little bit, in my opinion. That is my take. And remember that ref got sued for the hot mic that was like, I got to call it.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Yeah, yeah. But I was like, yeah, you do. I can't have a team in an elimination playoff game, kill four penalties and have no power place. I hear that. I definitely hear that. But I don't know, man, when the ice is tilted this significantly, there are times where I'm like, there aren't infractions.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Like, if you're getting beat down and you're just chrots, you're just chrots. chasing the whole game, why is the other team taken penalties? So I actually think it is sometimes likely that Buffalo is not really doing anything there.
Starting point is 01:17:41 But you were right, they happen all the time, and it, four to nothing feels unfair. And I'm like, dude, like, just call a fucking penalty. But as a ref, like, you can't be sitting out there
Starting point is 01:17:51 looking for like, I gotta call Buffalo and something here. Yeah, I'm kind of like, yes, you are, but I hear you. I'm certainly not being like, well, it's one for one.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I'm just saying like, dude, be aware of the fucking situation. here. This is ridiculous. And then I just did want to shout out Pasta because he, he scored the one goal, but it was the play in the neutral zone that I'm shouting out. Like he stepped up, a Buffalo breakout, Pasta made a big hit, freed the puck up, then jumped in the two-on-one, great passover.
Starting point is 01:18:21 A dude who's been, has to carry so much weight. I thought that was a nice play. But the Bruins, man, they just, they shot themselves in the foot with that face-off play to Pasta that Linda. You know, like, that one actually kind of... I think pasta is like, I mean, he's frustrated. He should be a heart finalist for this year. Yeah, yeah, what he does.
Starting point is 01:18:41 It's unbelievable. So he is, unless you have anything more on this game, I want to get into the Bruins. Oh, the Bruins. Yes. Okay, sure. The Bruins, I actually, before this series, I have been preaching how bright the future is for Boston. there's so much shit to be talked about Don Sweeney in the past. I've done it, and this is now probably the third live in a row where I've been like,
Starting point is 01:19:10 I give him so much credit for this year, for the retool, the restructure, this, that, and the other. What David Posternak said in his exit interview was eye-opening for me. Did you see this? You said it to me. I didn't see it. You texted it to me. It was a clear call-out to management of pasta going, Get Me Help. Yep. So this guy has had three hundred-point seasons in a row.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I can't do it before. Is it four? 400-point seasons in a row. I've said this many times. David Posternak is the most skilled, talented player in the history of the Boston Brux. I include Ray Bork. I include Bobby Orr, I include Esposito. To have the player in today's game
Starting point is 01:20:04 scoring 100 points four years in a row and especially when you look at this year and last year who he's playing with and doing it, you have a generational, generational talent. And in his post game, he was like, I'm about to be 30. Yeah. I want to win. He was like, I've sniffed a cup once.
Starting point is 01:20:22 I had one shot at the cup. Yep. And I'm about to be 30, and I want help. Like, I want to go and get one here. This guy signed an eight-year deal. He is committed to this franchise. Morgan Geeky has been a breath of fresh air. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:20:38 You kind of lucked into that. When you signed Morgan Geeky, you didn't think he was going to be a 40-goal guy. And I got news for you. He's a 40-goal guy. He didn't literally score 40, but you know what I mean? 39, yeah. Because of David Posternack. Victor Arbotson was a fucking delight this year.
Starting point is 01:20:54 What a fucking miracle. Bye. Yeah. he's gone. I don't think Boston is signing him because he's about to get a five-year fucking deal for something. Yeah, damn right.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Bye, he's gone. You have the exciting kid line of Fraser Minton, who's Nadinov, and Higgins. Hagen's got fucking scratched, got health bombed, and it's his first... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:15 First jump into the NHL. I'm not giving Hagan shit. On the other hand, you look at Porter Martone, exact same situation. Yep. And look at what he's done for this Philly group. Power Play 1
Starting point is 01:21:29 pumping in goals. Hagen's couldn't do that. So while the future is bright for Boston, they've got Hagen's, they've got Minton, who is great this year. Didn't do much in the playoffs. You've got Laterno on BC. You've got Zellers. Pasta being 30 next year. McAvoy being 29 next year. You've got Sway who's locked up. You do, when you've made the playoffs this year
Starting point is 01:21:55 and you've accelerated the rebuild, you do have to look at a guy like pasta and a guy like Chucky and be like, we should try to compete right now. Yeah. So the Bruins, while I am like the future is bright, you have to look at the fact that in 2011 they won a Stanley Cup that no one expected them to win. They then lost in 13. They then lost in 19.
Starting point is 01:22:20 They have two president's trophies. For sure second round, choke jobs. You wasted the president. the prime core of Bergeron, Kreachy, Marchand, and Chara. Yeah. And Rask. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:36 You wasted that. Oh, dude. I say this all the time. It's a trashy. The Boston Bruins won a Stanley Cup in 1972. Then they won in 2011, and they have, in my opinion, choked in 2019, lost in 13. And now you have another generational player like Poshnak, like McAvoy, like Sway. What are you going to do with it?
Starting point is 01:22:55 What are you going to do with it? a time where the East feels pretty open. You've got Toronto trending down, Tampa, trending down. I'm sorry. Like, Hedman is so hurt he's not playing. Cooch is 33. Points, a broken man. Like, these teams are trending down.
Starting point is 01:23:13 You have the opportunity to trend up. What does Boston do now? And I think that pasta call out was a like, hey, Don, great job with guys like getting, bringing geeky and getting mintin in that trade, a great little player, drafting Hagen's, Laterno, Zellers. That's five years out.
Starting point is 01:23:33 What are we doing now? I think it's a very interesting question. Yeah, especially because you just look at you're behind Montreal, for sure. You're behind Buffalo, as it seems right now. I know Buffalo's been so, like, they had a great year, and then they were awful. You're behind Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:23:53 So now you're in this race with Detroit, and Ottawa and, you know, a Tampa retool maybe, right? Like, that's your situation right now. Yes. So figure it out because it's go time. Yep. And again, you have a guy like David Posternak who is just straight up like, go get me help. We, you want to talk about, and this is my last thing, you want to talk about is Austin Matthews going to get traded?
Starting point is 01:24:20 Is Brady Kachuk going to get traded? Yep. Is Connor McDavid? Is Leon Drysiddle going to get traded? if you're not making phone calls on all four of those guys as Don Sweeney, you are... You're not a serious franchise.
Starting point is 01:24:35 You are not a serious GM. You're not a serious franchise. And I'm dead ass all four of those guys. I would put a package together and call those teams and go, I'm being aggressive here. I'm prepared to give you this. You've got the fucking HL goalie of the year in DPA-HRO. Yep.
Starting point is 01:24:53 You got Higgins. You got Laterna. You got Zellar. You have great pieces for the first time in a long time. Make a move. Potentially, when we see the lottery, if it's six or lower, you got that Toronto first round pick. Pray to God, it's six or lower.
Starting point is 01:25:09 You got to make a fucking move. Yep. You have to. Just to put a bow on it for Buffalo. What a moment for the Buffalo savers, dude. Into the second round, it's fucking incredible. If I do not get to Buffalo for round two, agree.
Starting point is 01:25:26 What they have accomplished this year, especially after the start they had, right, until December 9th or whatever it was, I mean, my God, the fact that they sat here and said, we're going through this again, it will never end in this city, we'll never make playoffs, life is unfair, get me a bowl of cereal. But instead, dude, lather up a new plate of wings because you're playing hockey in fucking May. How sick is that, Buffalo? It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:25:53 The calendar says five. month five and you're playing hockey. It's incredible. I'm thrilled for them. I'm thrilled, honestly. I'm thrilled they did that before game seven. They didn't need that shit. I'm glad they handled it in six.
Starting point is 01:26:04 I'm glad that Lion has been so massive because God, that's kind of how you do it in playoffs. What a swing. And then it's just like you said, Tage isn't even really going yet. Their potential, and they haven't even reached their potential. I saw a quote from the Keynes that said,
Starting point is 01:26:19 we're still searching for our perfect game, which is hilarious because they haven't lost in the playoffs. It's very raw. thing to say. I think Buffalo is still searching for their perfect game. Think about that. You're into the second round and you haven't even played the best you guys can play yet. No question about that. That's a great fucking point by you. So I'm like, man, dude. And, and finally, actually last thing, they're doing everything that you need to do in playoffs that I was concerned that they couldn't. They are smothering teams with the forecheck, clogging up the neutral zone.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Boston doesn't have a shot for six minutes at a time in an elimination game. Buffalo everywhere. They're scoring goals. They're getting goalie play. They're not getting hemmed in their own zone. breaking out cleanly. Like everything, I was like, oh, man, it's a different game in playoffs. The Buffalo Sabres said, asked and answered you, fucking bitch. And I said, thank you, good day. Enjoy the second round. I cannot wait for that series.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Me too. Let's wrap things up in this episode talking about the Golden Knights, Utah Mammoth series. Golden Knights taking care of the Mammoth. Five to one. Dan, unfortunately, the Mammoth have only won 33% of their playoff games at Delta. Which is such a crazy swing because if people forget, they were undefeated. There was a long stretch in Mammoth history where they were undefeited. They were undefeated for us. And now, unfortunately, they are not. This game for me,
Starting point is 01:27:31 C.P. This game was over before it started. Yes, it was, which I was very surprised by. I said the mammoth would win. I was like, boom. It was a good little battle. I think Howden scored like 15 minutes into the first period. But it just, it felt like to me, like, I think, or let me see, yeah, 10, 6 and shots. Like, Vegas was all over them. And when Howden scored, I was like I think you did. Dude, it was crazy, Dan. It was the best Vegas
Starting point is 01:27:58 looked by a country mile. Yeah. And I, for me, this game was the first time in this series where I went, ooh, do we have to be worried about Vegas?
Starting point is 01:28:16 Yes. Like they are, truly, all the games before, their comebacks, like, you know, they had unbelievable comeback wins. This was the, first game where I was like, oh boy. And also, credit to him, Carter Hart's best game. Yep.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I thought Utah, they didn't have that many shots, but I thought Utah had some pretty good chances that Carter made like big saves on. And you wonder if he is now like, you win this series in six games, you played every second of every game. And you wonder if Carter Hart is finally like, because people forget, like, he didn't play a full season. Yep, right. You wonder if this was him being like, oh, I'm in my, I'm in my fucking bag now. I'm in my duffy. Well, dude, the only thing I'll say, though, is the one goal they did score, the Yamamoto shot, heart has to have.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Like, it literally just hits him right here and goes in. And I'm like, if I'm Vegas, the only thing that scares me is as good as he has looked, he's still giving up a goal like that every now and then. And, dude, it's the playoffs. Like, there are, you know, goals sneak in here and there. I'm not saying every goal he has to be perfect. But it's just his, his, he has the ability or the, the, it's not, I don't know what to call it ability, but he has the,
Starting point is 01:29:24 possibility to give up goals like that occasionally. And that scares me as a team where you're like, please, because dude, that one, I almost made this joke. This makes it sound harsh. But in Beer League, when you can't hit, all we can really do on D is just force a guy wide outside the dot of the circle. And then if the shot goes in, I look at my goalie and I go, are you insane?
Starting point is 01:29:42 Yeah. What do you want me to do? Yamamoto gets taken wide and just fires a wrist shot from the near far hash of the circle. And it goes in. And I'm like, that can never go in, literally ever. Yeah, that's absolutely true. an NHL goalie in the playoffs. You cannot be letting that end.
Starting point is 01:29:57 He did shut the door otherwise. Yes, yes. But you're right. Someone said on our page yesterday, someone was like, oh, like Utah choke job, but the future is bright. And I was like, I don't even think of it that way, man. Agreed. I don't think that there's any, even though I was on here on the fucking live show last week
Starting point is 01:30:18 being like they fucking blew that game, they did. But I don't think this is a choke job. Vegas is a very good team. Vegas is, they've been in the playoffs every fucking year except for one of their entire existence. They've won a Stanley Cup, they've been to another. This team is no joke. You always say they are the team that goes and fucking makes
Starting point is 01:30:38 the most drastic moves in the world. Martyr becomes available, they go get them. Rasmus Anderson becomes available, they go get them. Jack Eichel becomes available, they go get them. Carter Hart becomes available, they go get them. Vegas wants to win. That is a dangerous team to play, and you took them to six. That's great.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Oh, dude, be incredibly proud. I'm so sad we didn't get to go back that we were trying to our schedule got jammed. I'm so sad we didn't get to experience that again. But this mammoth team sucks losing the playoffs. You should be on cloud nine. And I will do a little gas up for the mammoth year. I mean, you make the playoffs in your second year of existence.
Starting point is 01:31:14 You take Vegas, a great team who won the Pacific, say what you will about the Pacific, to six games. That's fantastic. But the bigger thing for me is that you, you take. You are officially a playoff team now. And you were officially a destination. Yeah, yeah, sure. Because while it happens with trades,
Starting point is 01:31:32 you get guys like Mikhail Cirgachev, you get guys like Sean Dersey, you get guys like Mackenzie Weigar, you have these players who get there and they go, oh, fucking rights. You have Clayton Keller who commits to the team. You have Nick Schmaltz who commits to the team. You have Logan Cooley.
Starting point is 01:31:50 You are a team that players are, not happy to be at, but desperate to be at. You have your new facility. You have an amazing arena that's only going to get better. You have an amazing fan base that's only growing and going to get better. Utah is, without question, a destination now. This is a team that players want to play for and you're a playoff team. Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:12 That's fantastic. Vegas. This is a big time opportunity to go right back to the Western Conference final. Uh-huh. We love the duckies. Can't wait to go to a game this round. But what do we do last week, talking about Mitch Marner, being like, you got to wake up to, during the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Mitch wakes up, makes a great play, gets an assist on the game winning goal. He comes into this game, two tucks. Hey, hey, hey, hey, welcome to the party, pal. Dude, genuinely welcome to the party, pal. Dude, that was, because, dude, that was, howding gets the goal, which, by the way, was also off of Mitch shot. Like Mitch fired that, dude, and I said this on the Friday live, we've got to be shooting off the end boards more. I literally do not understand how no, in every goal in playoffs is just a ricochet off
Starting point is 01:33:04 the end boards that bounces back out in front and someone scores. It is insane, and people need to be actively doing this on purpose. But Mitch Marner fires one off the end boards, bounces out to how it and goal, you know, after a dominant first period. Yeah. We are 40 seconds left in the second, still won nothing. So this is one of those of the mammoth are hanging on and you go, fuck, put them away, put them away, one,
Starting point is 01:33:23 bad bounce and we're fucking tied, then Marner hammers that slap shot in. Huge Selly. And I was like, oh shit. And that, and then obviously gets another one too, which made it even better. But this was a, okay, dude, thank you, buddy, because I paid good American dollars to get your ass out of Toronto to bring you here where you said the only reason I'm not winning, going deeper in playoffs and winning cups is because of the Toronto media and the pressure and all the bullshit.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Yeah. You're here, you're here now. You're home now. No one needs, no one cares. You can just participate, but you got to participate. And he kind of wasn't. Like I saw this headline that was like, Marner, Clutch Marner's, the reason Vegas is doing well. And I was like, nobody doesn't.
Starting point is 01:34:04 But now, but now I'm like, two goals, five assists, seven points and six games. Yep. Jack Eichael, one goal, eight assists, nine point six games. Like your two best players are going. And, you know, like if Mitch is away, also Mitch, Mitch, the amount of shit that Toronto players got for their playoff collapses, is Mitch has 70 points in 77 playoff games. Yeah. Like Mitch and, you know, unbelievable game winning assist in four nations.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Like Mitch can play in a big game. And you get out of the first round in six games. Both of those guys are over point per game. I want Jack scoring more, definitely. But you're going up against the ducks now. And you've got to be, if you're Vegas, you've got to be like, we are winning this series. We have to win this series.
Starting point is 01:34:48 So, well, I don't want to do the prediction yet. I'll save that stat for there. Yeah, I think I go, if you're Vegas. But Dan, I just think, though, Mitch needs to, Mitch and Jack need to score like this. I think all the assists aren't going to be enough to carry them through because they have some. I've been concerned all year with their defense, and I know they have some studs back there. Shea Theodore's incredible hand. is incredible.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Yeah. But you're missing that Petrangelo guy, which we'll say for the millionth time, where I'm like, this matters in playoffs. And you either need a guy like that or an incredible goalie, and you're not getting incredible from heart, you're getting good. And you don't have this minute-eating motherfucker on the blue line, you know. So I've still been afraid it's going to catch up to Vegas if they don't get an incredible offensive performance.
Starting point is 01:35:40 They have guys that can do it, but I need them to actually do it. Yeah. This was a step in the right direction for Mitch. Yeah. I mean, it's like right now going into the series, you have Mitch and Jack in a very great headspace. Yes. And that's huge. Yep.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Okay. Do you want to do the prediction? Yeah. Okay. I think you start this one. Or no, I start there. I can't remember. You start.
Starting point is 01:36:04 All right. I'm going to start. And what I'm about to say is going to blow your mind, but I'll tell you why. Yeah. I'm going. I'm having sick thoughts over here. I'm ready. Ducks in five.
Starting point is 01:36:19 and I'll explain. I'll explain. Ducks in four. Oh, I was like, holy shit. Ducks in seven. Wow, I can't believe you're on ducks. Yeah. Okay, here's why.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Let me read this to you. Last year, Vegas versus the Wild, round one. Game one, I'm speaking from the Vegas POV here. Game one, win. Game two, loss. Game three, loss. Game four, win, overtime. Game five win overtime, game six win.
Starting point is 01:36:55 The exact same thing happened this year against the manna. Like literally with the overtimes. Like that verbatim, Vegas did the same thing in the first time. So they're going to win game one against the ducks and then lose four straight. So I have no choice but to assume that the exact narrative in round two is going to happen. I don't think the ducks are going to win in five. The universe is exerting that upon me. Sure.
Starting point is 01:37:19 So I am not one to to poo-poo the universe. So I don't think this is going to happen, but I have to say Dux in Five because something magical is happening, and I love magic. If Quenville can shore up the defense even a little bit for the ducks, and if Dostol can lock in a little bit, which, let's be honest, has been hard for them all year long.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Yes. They will win this series. Because I do think there are guys banged up on Vegas. I don't think Vegas's D is that threatening. and the fucking duckies, they've got so many guys who can score. Yep. So I think they can pull it off.
Starting point is 01:37:55 My fear for the ducks, though, is this. The Aves, for example, just played two such different teams, right? They played a team that can't score, and then they played a team that can't score. Yeah, you fear is they're playing the exact same team. The Vegas just played the young, dumbful-of-come team. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Who's like, we're pumped to be here. Yeah. And they kind of took a second to get the die. You're terrible. Go away. And now they're like, are you just the mammoth again? They're like, yeah, hell yeah, we are. And I'm like, oh, four.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Vegas and four. That's a good point. So we'll see, but this might make us eat crow here. This is going to be fun. Yeah, this is going to be fun. This was fun. Amazing, amazing, amazing live show. What do we got for games tonight, CP?
Starting point is 01:38:31 Tonight we have Keynes versus the Flyers, Vladar on May 4th. That's interesting. Interesting. That's extremely interesting. And then I believe we have Vegas Ducks game one at 930 Eastern. So yeah, we're going to find out real quick how high. flying the ducks are how the power play looks and if if which one of these goalies can stop the puck um but yeah two great ones too a game two a game one i'm fired up fired up as well that's
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