Empty Netters Podcast - Please Hockey Gods Give Us 7 Games Of Wild Avs
Episode Date: May 4, 202614 different goal scorers in game 1, are you kdding me?! The Habs eliminate the Bolts, despite getting smothered all night. The Sabres wagon trail rolls on, ending the Bruins season in Boston. The Mam...moth journey ends at home as well, where Marner has his best playoff game yet. And the Canes look like a force to be reckoned with in their win against the Flyers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ice is ready and we're back with another live episode of the Engineer's podcast,
brought to you by BenM.
May the Ford be with you, everyone.
Happy Star Wars Day and CP, a lot of people just lost a bunch of money with you not wearing sunglasses right now.
Dude, I was ready at all.
I was ready to be dead today because I thought maybe something about happening that night,
but then nothing happened by me.
You never know.
Well, actually, hilariously, I had an event from 3.30 to 9.30 yesterday.
That's too long of an event.
So I taped.
I had all the games for the two games recorded.
And dude, we're going to get into it, but two of the craziest games of all time for different reasons.
So by the time I fucking get out here, I have one billion tax hundred.
Like literally, every thread that exists.
had something to say about those hockey games.
So as you're going back and you click on a text,
it just drops from 1,015 on red to like 1,000-something.
Yeah.
You don't even know how high to scroll on threads.
So I spent the entire night completely sober,
literally reading text messages and then watching the two games,
which were a delight.
Delight.
So I'm so glad that happened.
But holy shit.
Dude, I have to share this with you guys.
I'm pissed at myself.
I didn't take a screenshot.
But for the chat, for everyone watching,
you can see the ticker.
Lots to get into two insane games last night
and then more action over the weekend.
We're going to get into it all.
Zach, I wanted to show this to you.
Someone tweeted at us.
Hold on real quick.
Everyone's saying anything.
Oh.
So maybe we'll talk in the chat.
Yeah, I hear everything.
maybe it was
maybe
now it's better
so
we're going
all right
here we go
all right
well it sounds
like everyone
just heard
we're getting into
all the action
it's going to be
amazing
CP not hungover
unbelievable
but you know
everyone thought
they were going to smash
that
yeah
but they didn't
so I was just saying
over
I think it was over the weekend
it might have been like
on Friday
or something
This is what happens every year
We come with the positivity
We love the Netters community
The network
Everyone is so positive and awesome
And we're always just fucking
Giving a double-rister to every team
Being happy, go lucky about everything
The second a team loses in playoffs
Lunatics show up
And start talking shit
And being really aggressive
And angry and violent
And it's hilarious
At us
In like
Cause some at us, some in general.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I didn't even direct this at anyone.
I posted something on X a little while ago.
That was just a general thought.
And I was like, if you were a fan of a team and you've been steady talking shit online
and then your team gets swept, you got to take your medicine.
That's all I said.
I was like, just take your medicine.
Like if you were, if we were talking shit to Gavin.
Yeah.
For everyone watching, Dr. Locks, Gavin, best guy in the world, Philly fan, Chris and I are Boston fans.
We like the Celtics.
Gavin likes the Sixers.
When it's 3-1, if I were talking shit to Gavin and then the Sixers come back and win in seven, I can't say shit.
Now, I didn't talk shit to Gavin because I know the Celtics are fucking bitches.
And they were going to choke that.
And Gavin, when Sixers won was like, oh, my God, you knew.
And I was like, correct.
Celtics fucking stink.
But if you talk shit and then you get swept, you got to take your medicine.
Yep.
So I posted something like that and a ton of senators fans were like not even talking shit at me.
They were like, fuck that.
I'll talk all the shit I want, blah, blah, blah.
And I was just like, I didn't even direct this at senators.
Like the Kings got swept.
Dude, remember we said this?
Remember when that Kings fan when we were walking out of the sweep?
Unbelievable.
He looks at the ass fan and he's like, you'll be golfing in a week anyway, bitch.
And I was like, whoa, dude.
I don't think they will, but that's okay.
So I hear you
So this fucking clown
On
On Twitter
Posts a
Like a freeze frame of this show
And he goes
He goes
These guys are so broke
That they're still using microphones with cords in them
This show is a joke or something
And I was like
I replied to him
and I go, can you tell me what podcast doesn't have chords in their microphones?
Like, the cord chirp was insane.
And I was like, that is your chirp here.
And he then sends a screenshot of the fucking jankiest shittiest Amazon microphone.
Like he clearly typed in, actually you can see it in the bar.
It was like best cordless podcast microphones.
And sent a screenshot from like an Amazon search.
And I was just like, Jesus Christ, man.
We were getting.
So I just wanted to make clear like this setup is so fucking nice.
And I was like, we've worked so hard to get the live working and everything great.
And then this fucking dip shit online is like, why didn't you buy this Toys R Us microphone?
I was going to say you lose.
Half the lives have crashed.
Like if you want to chirp me, go ahead.
Get us for that.
saying there's so much to chirp us about like lives have crashed the you can't even hear the sound
at the beginning of this guy's like this you have cords i'm like good god almighty yeah get us where
it's supposed to get yeah like if you want to chirp us chirp us about what is worthy of chirping us
for uh do you want to jump right into minnesota colorado first and foremost yeah okay amazing
what what fucking event were you at for six hours though um i was i was i was
It was a whole door to door.
I had to leave at 3.30 to get there at 4.30 to, you know, it was a whole thing.
Hey, people are loving your shirt.
Oh, gas.
It's a great shirt.
Unbelievable.
O. G's.
Well, Schaefer.
I show this thing to Schaefer, dude.
Makes me want to play.
Matthew Schaefer goes like, I guess, what is that?
Because what is, what shirt are you wearing?
And I go, are you fucking insane, dude?
Yeah.
I love that it's on a gray.
Because, like, the OG gray control.
Dude, so they sell it in every color.
Yeah.
But I was like, it's got to be.
You have to get gray.
It's got to be great.
All right.
Minnesota, Colorado.
Let's get into it.
My first thought, I can't believe you didn't watch this live.
I know.
My first thought was we got the, oh, by the way, have we ever seen round two start before round one ended?
I asked this to someone the other day because I was like, don't have to wait because the fire started on Saturday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, don't have to wait.
And somebody was like, somebody said they weren't doing it this year.
and they were pretty sure that that had been happening recently,
and I actually think they're right.
But it used to be you did.
Yeah.
But I'm pretty sure that's kind of a thing now.
I love it. Me too.
What I find weird is I don't think Buffalo is playing until Wednesday.
And Buffalo, Montreal.
And I knew Game 7 was yesterday, but I was like, Wednesday feels a little long.
Yeah, like, why not Tuesday?
Yeah.
It's fine.
But anyway, yeah, now we start whenever we want, Dan.
Start whenever we want.
I'm thinking it was a,
exactly a week since the abs have played.
And it was like, first thought,
you know, are the abs going to be a little rusty?
I guaranteed it.
I guaranteed it.
And you know my take on that.
I'm like, I think it's the dumbest take in the world.
I think they're fine.
That, dude, the abs come out and score three straight goals.
It legitimately looked like, you know,
this is relevant, Kentucky Derby just happened.
Yeah.
When they bring the horses out and they bring Phillies out next to them
to get them all boned up.
Dude, Morsi didn't like that, by the way.
Really?
He was like, we got to get rid of this.
He thought it was too archaic.
Trevor.
What's wrong with that?
He was like, dude, stop.
Yeah, he was like, this is insane.
But yeah, they bring the Phillies out to get them all horned up so they're revved up and ready to go.
That is what the abs team looked like.
Yeah.
It looked like they were a bunch of feral animals who were just fucking ready to rock.
They came out so hot.
It was insane.
Yep.
insane um so actually we'll let's do we'll do the whole game first but i totally agree when they went up
three nothing i was like and dude going back to read the text was funny once i had seen some of the action
when when when when they went up three nothing the tone of all the text threads were like
holy shit the abs were just playing the king's game because that's what the kings wanted now they're
now they're playing a team that can score and they go you want to play this way dude watch this
here's fucking ten yeah and legitimately i was
I was like, I was way off.
They're going to kill them.
And the abs are now terrifying.
Yeah.
But that turned pretty quickly.
It wasn't, like, I didn't live in that, that long.
It was, so it goes three nothing.
Yeah.
And, like, we're talking to Marty.
We're talking to Wyatt.
We're talking to Wyatt.
We're talking to, yeah.
Everyone was like, I'm turning this game off.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, this is a nightmare.
And you know what's funny?
I, uh, it's also relevant, May the 4th.
I was flying this weekend.
Yep.
And I don't know what.
came over me, but I, or we had talked about on the show, I have flown so much that I have
seen every movie that you know it has to offer. So I was like, I got to rewatch some stuff here
and the OG Star Wars movies are on there. And I was like, you know what? I haven't seen those
in a while. And actually, it was funny. It occurred to me last night. I was on Disney Plus and I saw
something for May the 4th and I was like, oh shit, that's tomorrow. Yeah. So like I was
ahead of the game. Nice. I've been watching Star Wars. I've been doing it. So I was watching all
Star Wars movies and I had about 30 minutes left in Return of the Jedi and I was like I want to watch this I want to finish it last night
Oh oh at home and when it got three nothing there was a part of me that was like but on maybe I fucking turn this off
Maybe I get a little dual screen action going on but then
Wild score and I was like I was like still in the fight
Still in the fight still in the fight then they score again and I was like okay and then it was just like bang tied and I was like holy shit
This is unbelievable when the wild took the lead I was like this
He's the greatest game of I could have ever met.
It was also the most perfect start to that series.
Yes.
I don't think we're going to have a drunk shootout like Ducks Anaheim.
Ducks Anaheim, Ducks Oilers.
But that start to this series could not have been better.
I had a question for you as I was rewatching.
I didn't want to reignite the threads.
I was like, I'll just deal with this tomorrow.
Obviously, it was only the second, I think.
Maybe the third, but I think the second.
but it was shades of the mammoths come back against Vegas.
Yes.
Take the lead and then you lose by three.
Yeah.
I was like sitting here going, is that a puke?
Like in your mind, you're like, you came back after getting murdered.
You came all the way back and went like this.
You're my bitch.
I'm now winning.
Yeah.
You can't lose that game.
I disagree because it happened so early.
Like it wasn't like, I mean, the mammoth were winning that game with like four minutes left.
Right.
So I don't think it's a puker.
at all. And then also
there was, they didn't have the lead for more than
30 seconds. I know. Like it was fucking insane.
Like they got the lead and I tweeted I was like,
holy shit, like alert, the wild have the lead. And then
literally two minutes later, I was like, alert,
it's tied again. Yeah, yeah. So I don't think there was a puk.
I also, as they got the lead there,
you knew they weren't going to hold it long. It was like
this game is going to go back and forth.
Spooky stuff with the kale injury.
Spooky stuff. So much, there had been been
so many posts about, you know, Quinn, Kale, here we go.
And that was so, what do you think happened there?
I thought he, like, pulled his groin.
His leg kicked up so high.
Well, he said, did you see the post game?
I kept watching.
They asked him.
And, dude, that was actually scary because I'm always like, God, how are people getting
hit in the face with skates?
And then, like, I'll play like that happens and you're like, holy shit.
Like, that could have been horrible.
Oh, dude, you see Felino kind of.
Yeah.
I mean, late, but he was just like, oh, my God, Jesus Christ.
So after they asked him, and Kail was like, I'm not going to get this quote exactly,
but he was like, you know, I went to go get the puck.
I knew he wasn't going to be playing the puck, which is fine.
Because, you know, everyone's trying to make a play.
He was going to take the body.
And he was like, dude, I literally just got off balance.
Like, he hit me in a good spot, but I just lost my balance.
Yeah, and I just went flying.
Yeah.
And I think Ace was like, what were you thinking when you were up in the air?
And he was like, I was just thinking like, okay, just don't get hurt on the way down.
Yeah.
What I'm saying is like, I wonder what he hurt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair.
He's like, that's why I mentioned the groin thing.
Like, he fucking can-can kicks.
Yeah.
And then his knee hits the glass, too.
I was like, is it his knee or is it his elbow or something?
But definitely a wonky play.
He comes back, thank goodness.
Two talks.
Fuck you.
Yeah, and you know what was funny?
He got his first after Quinn scored.
Yeah.
And I was sitting there alone watching.
And when Quinn scored at Kail was back by then,
I was like Kales obviously scoring tonight
because it just, that back and forth is going to be so fun.
But, I mean, drunkest game of the playoffs.
For sure.
Genuinely drunker than that one particular,
what was that game four?
It was game for, Anaheim, Edmonton.
Drunkest game of the playoffs.
Did you notice, I think it was seven of the nine goals,
Walshead has a right circle problem.
Yeah, interesting.
And every goal was scored on the right circle.
Yep.
And it's like that so many went that over the pad under the glove that you wonder was Colorado being like, hey, this is a weak spot for him, whether before the game or in the middle of the game, because genuinely almost every single goal was scored right from that spot.
Yep.
That was wild.
There was some wacky bounces.
I kind of feel like more, not kind of, I feel like more, not kind of, I feel like more wacky bounces put goals in college.
Colorado's net, then wacky bounces put goals in Edmonton's net.
Erkie Edmonton, weird.
Now we're all fucked up.
And then in Minnesota's net.
But so I don't mean to excuse Wedgwood, really, because he gave up six goals, but just
like there was some crazy shit.
Yeah.
But it was one when I was watching it, dude.
And I knew the game about crazy because of all the texts.
But when I was watching it, I was thinking to myself, I had asked you about Walsstead
and we, and I, when Eva was on, I was like, holy shit.
What a performance from that.
kid. This was one, Panger was even saying on the broadcast, you have nights like this and I wonder
what the head coach is going to do next game because maybe it was film. Maybe they did see something.
Maybe it was just a bad night. But at the end of the day, I'm like, dude, they are firing Pucks
past you. Like just an onslaught of Pucks are going in this time. I think it was like he had 8, 10,
say, percentage and it was like negative four point something goals saved above expected.
And this is the luxury of having Gus, right? But you know, you don't want to just
cut the kids head off after an incredible round one series literally but i am like whoa dude maybe we
sit down for a second maybe we catch a breather you know what i always find funny whenever
Zach you might not be aware of this but whenever there's a game like this where it's a shootout
yeah neither team pulls the goalie they're like this we're just in a we're in a firing squad here
whatever i i find that so interesting because i'm like pull him and you'll win
Pull him.
You'll win.
Like, why not pull him?
He's, he's leaky as fuck.
Just so crazy.
It is, it's this weird, unwritten rule almost in hockey where it's like if both goalies are getting lit up like Christmas trees, you just leave them in and let him shine.
And I'm like, I don't know.
Yeah.
Maybe we pull him.
I mean, someone else might be seeing it better.
Yep.
I don't get why they do that because, I mean, frankly, if for me, I suppose it was late too because did they get.
two empty net goals or was it just one?
They just got the one. Yeah, it was just
the Nate one, right? They went eight six. Yeah.
After the
Wilde took the lead and then
immediately Colorado tied, I would have
pulled Walsett. Yeah. I would have pulled
him and then like, we're going to start over
and Gus, it's your net. Don't get scored on it.
Yeah, and you guys just keeps going on wedge. If you pull
him, is Bednar then like
pull, pull, pull, punk. Get blackwood.
They have two guys. Get blackwood. They have
two guys that they think are even. That's what I'm saying.
So, I mean, it was just that, that was crazy.
And what was also crazy was this question we had going into this series,
can Wedgwood carry his unbelievable play in the regular season into playoffs?
He did so in that first series.
But then in this one, I mean, Wedgwood was not good in this game.
Correct.
And that's some bad bounces.
Not taking anything against, you know what, I'm so fucking sick of this.
We're going to get into bounce ship.
with fucking Montreal, Tampa, all the fucking idiots being like,
pluck, blah, blah, blah.
I'm not taking anything away from the wild
and how good they are offensively.
They're incredible.
But there was a lot of chatter.
I mean, Jesus Christ, Landisog, straight up, set it on the bench.
I don't know if you caught that one.
You know, what was this?
Yeah.
He was just, they were like, what, you know,
what's going on in this game?
And he was basically like, well, you know,
we just finished a series against a team who can't fucking score goals.
So it's definitely a bit of a different situation.
It was the most not indirect, direct chirp in L.A.
That's not a ricochet.
That's a headshot.
L.A. is a team who all season long didn't have the best offense.
And Colorado goes up against them and handles them in four games.
Now they're playing Minnesota, and you definitely, you win that game and you feel great about it.
But at the same time, if you're Colorado and you're looking at Wedgwood and you're like,
you just played for the first time in these playoffs a team that can score goals and you gave up six.
Yep.
You don't feel awesome about that.
But same time.
Dude, what series was it?
I was trying to think about this when I was watching it.
I'm pretty sure it was Edmonton Calgary.
Like when Cichuk and Johnny were on the flames.
Yeah.
They had a first round series that, or maybe second round,
but they had a series in there that was literally like eight.
The first two games were like eight, six, seven, five.
And everybody was like, holy fucking boat race.
This is insane.
No deal we played here.
Then it settled in.
But, and somebody, if you guys remember in the chat,
look that up because that series was an all-timer to start.
Find out how many goals were scored in, like, the first one or two games in that series.
But I hear, you're right.
Everything you just said is right.
But I also think, weirdly, Colorado can go, dude, we are transformers.
I will do whatever.
I don't give a fuck.
You want to do this, dude?
You think I can't score eight?
Like, yeah, even if Wedgwood is going to give up seven every game,
if I'm Colorado, I go, I can score eight against me.
them and Walsden.
Yeah.
No problem.
That is the funny question.
It's like whenever a game like this happens,
I feel like as a fan, you just get out of it and you're like,
Jesus.
Yeah.
And you're just thrilled about the win.
But you then don't ask questions of shit.
Do we have to worry about Wedgwood now?
It happens all the time.
Every time someone wins a game like that.
I mean, look at Ducks fans in that fucking insane game.
They were just like this fucking all right, dosty, we're fine.
And I'm like, well, dude.
Maybe not.
You know, it was hilarious, man.
I have a note from game six, Tampa, Montreal, too.
Then honestly, it was kind of that one more than game seven,
but I have a note from game six, which was a one-nothing overtime.
Yeah.
And I just, at the very end of my note is like, God, that was such a fun hockey game.
You know, there was a lot of chances, a couple power plays, nothing crazy.
That was so fun.
Yeah.
And then I watched this, and I'm like, oh, actually, this is fun.
That sucks.
It's so awesome.
I was like, never mind.
Every game should be a thousand.
I never know quite how to react because there are those great.
great games we always reference game seven Boston Tampa 2011 one nothing game it was awesome it's
pure hockey right but I'm like fuck that give me nine six yeah I don't give a shit somebody I think it was
there's a lot of emotional swings though in these games oh yeah it's like when he's just it's hard
to manage your emotions on the bench when this is happening when when Minnesota ties that game and
your Colorado you are definitely going oh you've got to be kidding because you're riding so
high in that 3-0 moment.
Especially after sweeping a team,
you come in and you're like,
we are going to fucking fuck this team.
Yeah, yeah, literally.
Oh, Dan, at 3-0 legitimately,
it was like, oh, dude, this is also a sweep.
Yeah.
We now might go, we might go 16 and 0.
Yeah.
And it's hilarious to me that anybody said
this was a good series.
Yeah.
Oh, oh, the wild are coming.
Oh, the wild.
And then it was.
Water's freezing under the Golden Gate Bridge.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly. Exactly right.
It's nonsense.
So do you have any other massive highlights from that game?
No, I mean, there were there were, there's part of me that's like, you know, there were great goals.
Like Quinn's goal was just such a great seeing-eye shot.
Also, I want to give Quinn credit for his bank shot goal because I don't think we got to talk about that.
I did with you did talk about it.
I mean, that was, oh yeah, Ava.
Yeah, she was talking about that.
Like that, I can't believe there are people who don't think that that was intentional.
Well, I will say this, and I said it on the thing,
Krill is backdoor.
Oh, I do have one more things to say about the series.
But Krill is back door.
So I think Quinn is going.
One or the other?
Yeah.
This is either going to hit something good or get through.
Put it in a dangerous area.
Yeah.
Like, don't think he was literally like, I don't even see Krill.
I can hit this off this skiff.
Yeah, sure.
Which maybe some people do think.
Yeah.
But I definitely think the haters who were like, he was just passing it.
I'm like, he knew.
knew that danger. That was danger, stranger, stranger, danger. This is what I wanted to say. The
only question I have, or the two questions I have for the while, because I'm with you, that
was a fucking blast, and you're fine, you can score, you know, you can come back against Colorado.
One, their power play was over three again. And after we said against Dallas, like, oh, they
can't score on the power play, but they look so good. They look great. They're snapping it around.
Eventually it'll go in. I'm like, okay, but eventually it does have to go in. Because Colorado
was one for two, Dallas went fucking 40% or whatever they went.
You, I can't believe you won that series against Dallas getting rinsed in the special
teams battle so badly.
I assure you, you will not beat Colorado if you get rinsed in the special team battle.
So score a fucking power play goal.
You've got to get the power play going.
There's no doubt about it.
And I stand by, I said it in the Dallas series.
I do not understand what the problem is because they look so good on the power.
It looks perfect.
There are tons of power plays that go cold when they can't even set up.
They can't even break it in.
this team gets set up instantly and they're snapping it around like nothing I've ever seen.
It's like PowerPlay film and then they just can't score.
Yeah.
There's a part of me that's like I would all, you know, you wonder what his possession is like,
but you've got, Boldie is on the half wall most of the time.
And I think Krill is low or you're in front.
And I watch Quinn and Faber.
Sometimes it's, who else?
it was
was it Brinker who was up there
with Quinn for a little while
Maybe I can't remember
Maybe put krill at the top
You need to start spraying some shots
So that's my big thing
With Minnesota's power plate
Like I need more shots on net
Through dangerous areas
Through traffic
Boldie setting up for the one timer
Crills sometimes on the one timer
That's it
But I'm like
I don't know
Maybe don't play the one timer
Maybe play the bumper
Maybe play
You know
Work it down low
get it right into the middle, or maybe let Quinn put some seeing-eye pucks through.
Yeah.
They need to start shooting the puck on the power play more.
Yep.
And then my second thing was, and I'm not smashing the panic button yet because I can't
because my hand is broken.
But even if it was healthy, I wouldn't.
Here it is.
I'm not smashing this panic button yet.
But you eventually need krill to get going a little bit.
One apple, you scored six goals.
Bat Boldie's been incredible kind of carrying you.
Quinn's doing a lot.
I'm like, I think absolutely.
I need you to score goal.
I think hit it.
Score goal.
Because he, my thing with Krill, we've talked about him so often as this game-breaking player.
Absolutely.
And even in series like this when you're playing some of the best teams, how noticeable is Quinn Hughes on the ice?
How noticeable is Nathan McKinnon on the ice?
How noticeable is Kail McCar on the ice, right?
Yep.
In that game, as drunk as, this is where he should thrive.
Yep.
He's a Russian man.
He's a Russian man.
A drunk game should be your haven.
Yeah.
I don't think he was that noticeable last night.
I thought Matt Boldly was way more noticeable.
As he has been all playoffs.
And maybe he's battling something, but Krill, I want to let him out.
I want him to just start wrestling the bears in the woods.
Like be in your element and start buzzing, because I do think I need more of him.
Okay, well, because of the, before we move on, because of the schedule starting before it was all done, which I love,
we didn't we have to cheat on two of the series but dan
yes i i wrote all of mine down before any game started and i'm being i being dead honest with
my picks okay amazing so you start on this one yeah avs wild what do you got avs and seven
same so listen and and ladies and gentlemen pray pray this go seven because this is going to be so
fun. I went
abs because
A, they, I thought
they would lose game one, but they arrested
their fine. Minnesota had a really tough
series. They both teams are
powerhouse stacked. I think
home ice doesn't matter as much in hockey,
but I think it would benefit Colorado if we got to a game
seven. Yeah. So I just thought this was going to be
and I think this one is going to do
kind of what Minnesota Dallas is where it just goes like
like I'll have Minnesota winning game
too, you know, it's going to go ding ding ding ding ding ding
all the way. But I
Feed me seven of these games.
Give me seven.
I need seven.
All right.
Ready?
Yep.
Dude.
Oh, my God.
I have so much to say about that.
Go, go.
The Montreal Canadiens take down the Tampa Bay Lightning in seven in Tampa, in Tampa.
And we've got a lot of questions to bring up.
I, if it's okay with you, we're going to.
to get into the game, then we will get into the questions.
But also, if it's okay with you, I want to do a little game six stuff first because
that happened on Friday.
Okay, sure.
We haven't been able to talk about that.
And I stand by, Game Six was one of the most fun games I've ever seen.
So I'll kind of rapid fire my thoughts and you can chime in or not.
Do it.
But Game Six, Bell Center.
God, dude.
Yeah.
What a venue.
Just the place looked fucking bat shit.
It did.
Legitimately.
Like, they have a chance to close out the bolts.
They want it so bad.
That first period was the best first period of the series, even through Game 7.
And one of the best first periods, I mean, obviously you just get to go, what was the score after this one, the Colorado one, 3-2?
Or was it like?
After the first 3-2, yeah.
So, like, that is so sick and, you know, it was incredible.
But that first period in Montreal, Tampa, someone go back and check, but I think the shots were like 12-10, which means both teams are flying.
Cole hit the post.
Like, there was, De Noe had the save off the goal line.
There was incredible chances, but incredible saves.
So many shots, so much action.
I was like, this is literally perfect.
This is literally perfect playoff hockey.
It was unbelievable.
Then you get, after chirping Vassie, personally, chirping Vassie for some leaky shit in the playoffs,
he gets that glove save.
I forget who hit that rebound, but you've seen the highlight where he makes the save.
And somehow, like, in a split still pushes and makes that glove save, which was fucking bad shit.
Then, oh yeah, Dan, can I show you this?
I know you saw, but you just forget because it was Friday.
I pulled this up just to just.
just to have this conversation.
This play right here is a penalty shot in every other series.
Based on that, the penalty shot that was called for Martinook.
Martinook.
Even the, even the Arvetson one.
It is like the same thing.
I'm like, dude, you are clearly behind him from even deeper.
I think the call that they're saying they called that one.
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
That's a penalty shot.
And I'm not even rooting particularly for, I was just like, that is a penalty shot.
So the bolts get the power play.
They can't score, but you've got to be thinking,
I would have loved Jake Gensel on a fucking penalty shot right there.
And then the bolts hit two posts on that power play,
but just can't get it done.
A couple heroic kills late.
Cooch took a trip in OT, a heroic kill.
And then Hague makes an incredible play,
and then Goncath wins it.
Just that hockey game was...
Gonzalves has been so good all playoffs,
and then I was shocked that that was his first goal.
Oh, was it of the series?
Yeah, yeah.
Wow, that's insane.
Dude, that...
That game...
was close to Boston, Tampa, and it was just so great.
And in that moment, I was thinking Tampa has a real shot to do this
because I didn't think I didn't think I'd get through that game.
Yeah.
My outtake is I didn't find that game that entertaining.
I thought the first period was super entertaining.
And then it was the third for me.
Like they, I thought they both got a little, like, scared and tight.
And like, no one wanted to take a chance.
And I was like, well, what are you fuckers score, dude, please?
and just like do something in this game.
That doesn't take away from, you're right.
Like the first period was super electric
and the power plays are always tense,
but I was a little bit like,
get something going here, guys.
The third period in particular,
I was just, I was kind of bored.
Okay, okay.
So then we go to Game 7.
Yeah.
And John Cooper,
I happened to be watching
because I was rewinding everything,
had a interview before the game
that ended up being very prophetic
where he said,
he goes, I've been in a lot of game sevens.
And some of them,
I can be man.
enough to admit we weren't the better team and we lost in that game.
But some of them, I feel like we were the better team and we lost and that's game seven.
And I was like, holy hell, dude, this was one of the great beat downs I have ever seen in
playoff hockey legitimately.
Yeah.
I have never seen a team just dominate a playoff game.
I was like, oh my God, this is insane.
Yeah.
And then they lose.
It's like, holy shit, dude.
Nightmare fuel of your tam-a.
In my honest to God opinion.
the
well I was doing hockey talk
yeah in the morning
and a bunch of people were like
what do you call on
and I like a coward
I was like I can't call it
like I really don't know
I had a strange
feeling
that Montreal was going to take this
and it's because
before the game
yes which is such a bit
bullshit thing for me to say
when I literally on the story
I couldn't say who was going to win
because I felt I was like
am I just being an idiot
I thought it before the game too
that that that's
And the reason I felt that was because of Dobesh.
Yeah.
Because Vassie stole one, right?
Vassi stole one in game six.
But I was like, Dobech was so good in that game six.
And I was like, I feel like he might come in and be like, fuck you, I'm getting mine now too.
Yep.
And they come out.
Tampa's flying all over them.
Shots are 10 to 2.
I changed my vote to Tampa immediately.
I was like, oh, this is a bloodbath.
And when Zook scored, I look at it.
at Gavin and I went, that is game.
If you're getting shit pumped like this in a game seven,
Tampa's all over you at home and they score that goal,
I was like,
that is going to suck the life out of this team.
And it didn't necessarily do that.
Yeah, I was going to say,
but I was like,
this is over.
Like Montreal is winning this game.
Dude, funny, because I,
that thought entered my brain.
And then when Tampa came out and literally,
the Habs didn't have a shot in the second period,
I went like this.
Oh, this damn.
is going to break. Tampa's going to tie it this period eventually
and then probably win 3-1.
And then Tampa did tie it and I was like, literally
I would have put my mortgage on the both.
Yeah, because I was like, Montreal might not shoot again.
Yeah, this is a fucking joke.
You did think once the seal was broken,
maybe they're going to get a second quick.
But yeah, then when it was just a shootout,
you know, then when it went.
Then when it was just a stalemate
and it was just won one forever.
And I was like, baseball bat one in from behind the goal line.
You're like, then I was like, dude,
the two Montreal goals are a tip that was going
10 feet wide that hit a bolt and a baseball bat in from the back.
I am so glad that you brought that up because I would like to talk about this.
The, man, I think I might be mean to Tampa Bay fans today.
I think you have some stuff that you've talked about to me about Tampa that I want you to say that it's completely correct.
I think this take, or I'm guessing, I haven't heard this, I think I'm going to disagree with this take because maybe it is mean to Tampa fans.
Let us be very clear.
first and foremost,
was that tip going wide?
Yes, of course it was going wide.
And that was the first period.
Yeah.
The amount of shit I was seeing online
of already boo-hooing
and making excuses from Tampa fans
being unbelievable that this game seven
is going to get dictated by puck luck like that.
It was the first period.
And I'll add,
that is game,
that's why you don't get
to a game seven. Tampa has no one to blame with themselves that they're even in game seven.
So you should have been, if you care, you should have won this series already.
You went down, you had to force a game seven.
When you get to game seven, you can't be upset because pucks go in.
Like this is, that's one game.
That's how the world works.
So my take on this was, listen, it was going wide, yes.
My take is that is still a good tip.
You agree with that?
Well, it's a great tip because he changed direction on a puck that Vassie was tracking.
Like, I'm kind of of the attitude that literally any tip is a good tip.
You can get your stick on the puck, it's a good tip.
And here's the thing, man, here's a fucking newsflash for people.
When you tip a puck, you are trying to tip the puck, change its direction towards the net.
Create chaos.
And hope anything can happen.
Yep.
Obviously, I'm not saying Suzuki was like, I'm going to tip this.
and then hopefully it hits another guy's shin and goes in.
He's trying to tip it on net.
But the goal of being a net front person,
tipping a puck, is to put it towards the net
and hope something happens.
That worked.
He redirected that puck,
and then it hit someone's shin pad and went in.
That is lucky.
But it's not lucky that he tipped it towards the net.
That is skill.
He did his job.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he got a little bit of an assist.
But what bothers me is there were a lot.
lot of fans acting like Suzuki is just bumbling around in front of the net and randomly it hits
him then someone else and goes in.
No, Suzuki made a hockey play putting the puck towards the net and then there was puck luck
off the shit.
But I reject anyone discrediting the play by Suzuki.
Suzuki made a high talent, high IQ hockey play that then had some puck luck and went into
the net.
And I would say the same with the second one.
Okay.
I disagree.
Okay.
Anything that puck out of mid-air towards the net is high talent, high-scale.
Oh, but New Hook is trying to bank that off of Vasi.
100%.
Yeah, I think that's probably right.
How many goals have we seen where guys come, if you see the goalie out in their crease
and you're behind the net, how many times have we seen it in the NHL where guys throw it off
their back?
Yeah, all the time.
Like that is a play.
If you're in the NHL, you're good at hockey.
folks. This isn't fucking Wednesday
Beer League. That
is a play where Newhook looks
up, sees him, and is like
I'm throwing this at the net. He's out of his
net. This could hit him and go in.
Is there always an element
of luck in that? Sure, I
imagine. Now, I did see a bunch of people being
like, the luck happened before
when it bounced around behind the net and then
it came to him. I'm like, is that
not hockey? Dude, half the goals
this playoffs have gone in off the endboard. Like, literally
hits the endboard and something insane happens. Yeah.
So listen, I will show sympathy to Tampa fans, no doubt, that those are two unusual goals.
Yep.
And there's no question, and I'm not denying that.
I just don't like chalking it up as, like, such a bullshit game.
We got so unlucky.
Guys, the Habs, players are going out there, and they're making fucking plays.
If these were things, guys, where every now and then you see someone dumps a puck in, right?
And the goalie goes to go behind the net, and then it hits weird off the stanchion and reder
X in, that I would be like, yeah, that's bullshit.
Yeah.
These are both plays made by Canadians players where they're making plays putting the puck
towards the net for a goal.
Yep.
They're unusual goals, no doubt about it.
And I have sympathy for you in that regard.
But just don't discredit the talent that it takes to make those plays.
They are plays to get a shot on net.
They're not random, like, oh, I was actually passing it, and it deflected off five skates
and went in.
Both of those plays where I'm trying to take.
take a shot on net to score a goal.
And maybe Dan, Tampa, and I think they had 29 shots.
And I was talking to our boy David, actually, and he was like, that's the best Tampa's
played in months.
And I completely agree.
Like, legitimately, it's the best they've played all series and the best they've looked
in so long.
So then they had, again, 29 shots, I don't know.
But maybe they go, maybe we should just start getting more to the net.
Yeah.
Because Dobish has been incredible and deserves all his flowers.
And I think the killer, to try to defend Tampa fans a little bit, is I believe that.
he goes, in game six, he gets a shutout.
And then in game seven, he goes, I'm going to get a shut out again, because I assure you,
no normal shot will get past me tonight, I promise you that.
And then one tip ricochets off his defenseman, and then one puck gets baseball batted from behind
the net, hits him in the arm, hits him in the leg, and goes in.
And he goes, no way we're going to lose.
Because of this.
Right.
And then all of the Tampa forwards go, yep, Kooch goes, I have zero points in seven
career game sevens.
We are going to lose.
And I'm like, holy hell, dude.
It is also so tough, Chris, that the...
That is true.
He was like, I'm not letting a shot in.
It is tough sledding for him that there were fucking nine shots.
Yeah, it just looks so shitty.
You look like such a bum.
Yeah, until you see the highlights, and then I go...
Yeah, look, you see the highlights.
There's the Cooch stat.
007, dude.
Seven game sevens, zero goals, zero assists.
So, yeah, it's a tough look for Vassian.
And this is a perfect opportunity.
now to let's get into the conversation about Tampa.
Yep.
I posted last night, I was like, you and I have been some of the biggest
cooch defenders of all times.
Yes.
And we just glazed, glaze, glaze, we had a full conversation.
Was that last year or this year where we said he might be the best Russian player?
I think it was this year.
And what's funny is regular season, that is way more of a conversation than many of you
would like to admit.
Regular season, he is.
I don't need to get into this again, but we're a cycle.
But I was like, we are massive cooch glazers.
We have to have a conversation about Cooch.
And I'm positioning this now, and we're going to talk about Cooch, we're going to talk about Cooper, we're going to talk about Vassie, we're going to talk about Tampa in general.
Yep.
Because this one is no disrespect to the Habs, great fucking team.
This one you have zero excuses for.
And, dude, I want a little, a little slack on my stance at the start of the series,
because now that it's happened, I feel like this is the narrative.
Like I said, if you lose to the fucking habs in the first round, you are fucked.
And now everyone's like, God, Tampa is fucked.
I think, I know.
The reason I push back on you is because you said you were embarrassed.
And I was like, I think that's disrespectful to Montreal.
But I'm with you 100% in that I'm like, you got some spleen in to do.
Yes.
So who do you want to start with?
Um, Vassie.
Okay.
Let's start with Vassi.
I think based on what you said, I, I am not ready to give him shit.
Me neither.
He only had nine shots on net, and he gave up two.
That sucks, but both were.
We're insane.
Both were, the first was not saveable.
Correct.
The second, I think he made another bad poke check attempt.
Okay.
And then got himself out of position, and then that went in.
But either way, it was still walking.
Shudder in game six.
He's been, but he's been leaky in playoffs.
Like, you look at his stats since 2023.
It's not good.
No doubt about it.
So that part I will talk about for the last four playoff series, you have not been what everyone hails you to be.
The likely Vesna winner.
Yes.
Everyone is like, you are Mr. Kahn-Smith.
Yeah.
You are the guy.
last four playoffs
sorry not playoff series
last four playoffs last four years in playoffs
you have not been the guy that everyone
talks about us
um okay
cooch
Nikita kuturov
when I posted that
it was very interesting
I think 50 50
split there were some
I actually do have a funny screenshot
Zach that I'm going to show with you on this
50-50 split
Tampa fans being like
I am a Tampa fan
I completely agree
and then there are the Cooch
defenders which I totally get
who were like
are you fucking kidding me dude
like he's still blah blah blah
he's still this he's still bad
we are massive Cooch fans
we always defend him
we think he should have won MVP the last three years
yeah
there is no denying
that
Here's the other thing.
Save for two when he was only one point shy,
he is point per game or more in his playoff career
every single season of playoffs.
That is remarkable.
Yep.
We are talking about the Kooch standard.
It's the Christopher Nolan's thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dark Night Rises, Tenet,
not the best movies for Christopher Nolan movies.
For movies in general, they're incredible.
But for his standard, they're not the best.
Cooch, in these playoffs,
having seven points in seven games, that's great.
You would kill for that.
But when you're Nikita Kuturov,
and the team depends on you like this,
and you have one goal in 22, your last 22 playoff games,
two goals in like 24 or whatever,
that is not good enough per your standards.
That is a simple fact.
So when I tweet, like,
we got to have a conversation about Nikita Kuturov.
R.A., shout out R.A.
He was like, so that erases his entire legacy?
And I was like, no, dude.
And when did I ever say that in, quote,
we need to have a conversation about Kuturov?
That's me literally just saying, let's have a conversation.
And Merles, who we almost brought in on this episode,
Merles was like, dude, like 100%.
Like, did he get his cups?
And now he's like, fuck it.
I don't care.
Because that's a question.
It's a question.
And to just put it in.
terms sometimes when you go
I mean we say it's about Tuka all the time
who I fucking love and think is one of the greatest
goalies to ever to ever lace them up in the HL
you go your stats
are fucking amazing but sometimes
in that position you just need
a fucking save you need to
you need to bail me out because we sock
and we give a breakway and you got to save it
Cooch the Tampa Bay Lightning
rely on Cooch to
score high leverage
heavy dick goals
in times when we go oh fuck
We are out shooting the haves a billion to five, but we're losing, and we might lose this season.
I need you to just go, I got us.
Let me just score, and then we'll get to overtime, and we can win, and we'll grind them down, whatever.
Those are the goals that the super, super, superstars are required to score.
It is a tough job.
Not everyone can do it, but that's why you do it.
And I just want to say this, Dan, because, again, we're not having this conversation.
but Alex Ovechkin, 147 career points in 161 playoff games.
Yeah.
So, you know, decently under point per game.
Cooch, 177 points in 159 playoff games, decently over.
So I'm like, he has been great, but you look, those cup years, the three years in a row,
34 points led playoffs, 32 points, led playoffs, 27 points since then, and granted first round exits,
but it's like six, seven, four, six.
And it's like, oh, dude, you used to dominate here.
Yeah.
Not just hamet point per game with all apples.
Yep.
Right?
So it's like, oh, man, dude, that, you are missing that.
Yeah.
And again, it's not easy to dominate in the National Hockey League.
But I think you are Nikita fucking Kutrov.
Dominate.
Okay, completely agree with that.
And so I saw a couple of these replies.
A bunch of people were going, well, it doesn't help that point is a ghost.
Yep.
That is true.
But we, I kept saying,
Point better have a dislocated spine.
Bro.
Based on how he is playing.
I mean.
I feel bad for him, but he must be here.
And that's not me chirping point.
I'm saying like, I would imagine
that Braden Point is insanely injured.
Yep.
Because Braden Point is a remarkably talented player
and he is not playing well at all.
He's not doing anything.
Cooch.
knows that.
Whatever's going on with point,
Kooch is aware of.
So if you are as good as Nikita Kutrov,
it is your responsibility
to level up and be like,
points hurt, I can't rely on him,
I got to do some shit.
And look what he did all the end of the regular season
with point just as hurt.
Five points a game.
And you saw his goal in game two
that we were at in the way he celebrated.
He was like, fucking, Jesus,
getting the monkey off my back.
I got to score.
I got to perform.
Unfortunately, it's still there.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
So I don't accept the point injury excuse for Cooch here.
And there were a couple comments, people being like, dude, like, look at him on the empty
knuckle.
Like he's, uh, there wasn't an empty knuckle in this game, but like it was like a couple games
ago or whatever.
He's just like dog in it.
He's like, he's visibly frustrated.
His body language is this and that.
So I'm like, yeah, man.
I'm sorry.
We're having a conversation.
Yep.
And it doesn't take away how fucking.
insanely good he is, how good he is in the regular season, how good he's been in the playoffs.
But if we're going to talk about these guys as the best in the league, top three player
in the world, you cannot do this in the playoffs for as many years in a row as you have.
He's 33 years old.
He's had two hip surgeries.
That's a factor for sure.
But at the same time, he's 33 years old.
He still scores 100 fucking 40 points every year.
Yeah, exactly.
So I'm like, I'm not going to accept that really either.
This is, you're, and I'm saying this as not talking shit about Cooch or to Cooch.
I think he's fucking insane.
I'm saying it from a standpoint of, I bet he's frustrated too.
You hear those interviews during the regular season where he's like, I fucking just love hockey, man.
I bet he is pissed.
And I bet he would tell you I am not pleased with the way I've performed in the last four
playoffs years.
So it is what it is.
100%.
Cooper, you can't fire.
You can't fire.
You cannot fire Cooper.
There were a couple of people, one of our great internet friends,
he's an Oilers fan.
He was like, John Cooper, welcome to Edmonton.
Yeah.
And I was like, could you fucking imagine leaving Tampa and going to Edmonton?
What an awful coaching decision that would be.
No, no, not even because of that.
Literally because of your lifestyle.
Like, I think he's literally, like, built his whole life.
I mean, like, largely said Tampa.
I would shed so many tears on behalf of John.
John Cooper.
If he gets fired and then takes the Edmonton job, I would be like, Jesus Christ, dude.
Dude, you can't, good coaches are such a commodity in this league and you can't.
I've learned this late in our hockey covering career.
You just can't lose them.
Yeah.
Like it's literally, unless the team.
Can I pause real quick?
Yep.
Just on Twitter.
Another great friend on Twitter.
We just tweeted, is Kooch no longer reliable in playoffs?
And this person says, this implies he ever was.
Those are the comments on the other side where I'm like,
are you guys trolling or are you delusional?
Because just do yourself a favor and look at the two Stanley Cups he has
and look at his numbers.
And you can answer your own comment and question.
So that is where I'm like, we are having the conversation.
But when I said, no, of course not.
We're not talking about his legacy.
He's been incredible.
We're talking about the what have you done for me lately reality?
So yeah, we agree on Cooper.
You cannot fire Cooper.
I didn't love his post games.
I didn't see the post game.
Dude, he did a couple of things where he went.
He was like, the hockey gods have been in my corner time and time and time again.
And they weren't in my corner tonight.
Yep.
Fine.
He then said something like sometimes you win the game, but not the score.
Which I know I think that take, but they did.
He referenced Milan, too.
He goes, it happened to me in February and Milan and it happened tonight.
kind of a tough year for Coop
honestly
you know
Coop is one of
the great coaches
in our game
I'm a little
I'm a little tired
of this too cool
for school shit
these little quotes
the like calm
demeanor he has
dude
I
there is nothing
lamer to me
nothing lamer
than we won that game
when you lost
you fucking lost
yep
yes
Did you outplay them?
No doubt, dude.
But you lost.
So miss me with your little fucking cheeky quotes
about how you were so much better
but you lost the game.
Because at the end of the day,
the only thing that matters is the fucking scoreboard.
And ours currently reads,
fucked.
Exactly.
So I don't give a shit.
Those little quotes, they don't make me feel better as a player.
They don't make me feel better as a fan.
You fucking lost.
You have a silver medal hanger on your neck.
quit talking about how you are the better team.
You are out of the playoffs.
Quit talking about how you lost the score, but you won the game.
Show me some fucking fire.
Get up there and go, we every year talk about how we're one of the best teams in the league,
how we're one of the best franchises in hockey.
We have been fucking bounced in the first round four years in a row.
Is it four or is it three?
Yeah, yeah, four.
Once by the Leafs.
Four years in a row.
Talk about that.
Talk about how you're pissed.
Talk about how every year you've got a heart finalist.
You've got a Vesna finalist.
And you've lost in the first round four years in a row.
And that's fucking unacceptable bullshit.
I want to hear that.
I don't want to hear this like, hey, I know I'm just, you know, talking you down.
I know it's frustrating.
Fuck that, dude.
Get fucking fired up for me because this shit is not acceptable.
And that leads me, unless you have something more to say about that.
just that nothing I've always said to you
nothing makes me happier than when an athlete or coach
is in the post game
saying some shit that they will kind of regret
where they're like I'm gonna fucking kill myself
I'm so fucking fuming mad
this is the most pissed I've ever been in my fucking light
because I know they're just in the moment
but I'm like thank you because as a fan
if I care this much which is probably unhealthy
but if I care this much
certainly I want the player
to be feeling it even more than me
So I kind of hear you when they come out going and I'm not just saying coop
When any of them come out and go you know
You live another day and I'm like I know that we'll live another day
But can we just be fucking bummed and furious right now?
Thank you
So I
I was talking to my buddy Dave Panthers fan
And obviously he hates Tampa
Yeah
The last bit I have on this is
Tampa
Last year
clown noses
we got caught up in the hype
of how good they were in the regular season
and we picked them to beat the cats
specifically because
we thought the cats were going to be way more injured
than they were.
Yep.
This year we picked them
I think we both had them in seven
over Montreal.
I think I had six but yeah.
We both picked them to win this series
because they were so good.
I do not
let me preface this with
the Mickey Mouse Cups take
yeah.
Dude, I hate it.
I cannot stand when fans try to discredit Tampa Bay's Cup because of the bubble.
If you think hockey players gave a shit about COVID and the bubble, you're fucking out of your mind.
And also, I don't care about the division breakdown and how Canada had their own conference
and Montreal was in that cup final when they maybe shouldn't have been.
It's the cup final.
It doesn't fucking matter.
They're NHL players.
They're good teams.
they made playoffs and it happened how it happened.
Their cups are legitimate.
There is no debating that.
And I also don't care about a bunch of people
are being like this.
You know, I saw a tweet today that was like Tampa
when they're not 20 million over the cap
and it was a picture of the Leafs.
Yeah.
Good chirp.
Good chirp.
But in years past, the cap rules were the cap rules.
Your fucking team could have done it too.
Vegas did it.
And your team got fucking spanked by the table.
Tampa Bay Lightning.
So shut the fuck up with that.
Their cups are their cups.
That said, the way we talk about this team and then being this Titanic team in the
East every single year.
And now here we are, four straight first round losses.
We need to recalibrate the way we talk about the bolts.
And because it is a what have you done for me lately league and world and fucking life.
And you can't keep walking around with a 50.
50 pound cock like you are the biggest guy on the playground when you've lost four years in
row in the first round.
Dude, I was giving those to take the lead.
Do you want to talk some hockey?
No.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, okay.
We do got the flyers next.
Okay, well.
The hurricanes are very good.
I think we should get him in here.
Yeah.
Hold on.
We're almost done.
Okay.
Literally the last thing I was going to say is Tampa, how many minutes you think Tampa was
leading game six, which they won?
Oh, zero.
Zero.
Yeah.
How many minutes were they leading game seven?
Yeah.
Zero.
Yeah.
They spent five.
of the seven games in the series with zero leads.
You want to recalibrate something?
I have never recalibrated anything harder than the Montreal Canadiens after I saw Marty
St. Louis doing the Wolf of Wall Street.
Holy shit.
Dude, I was fucking fully torched.
I could not be more in on the halves after I saw him doing the we're not fucking leaving
thing.
That was amazing.
Buffalo Montreal is going to feed families.
So I got to start this one.
So you have your prediction that you already wrote?
Yeah.
Buffalo Montreal
Buffalo Montreal
I'm starting
I'm going
Habs in seven
strictly because of Doebish
I think he's
I think he's touching
touching something hot right now
I have habs in seven as well
and dude and it's funny
on the bachelor party I was on
I was talking to the
bachelor's brother Matt
and we were like
he was like I think if Tampa wins
Tampa will or will beat Buffalo
or will lose to Buffalo
but if Montreal wins, Montreal will be Buffalo.
And I was like, I actually think you're right.
And this is so tough because I have so many good buddies who love the Habs and I love that city and that team.
I want Buffalo for the story because it's just like holy shit, but I fear the goalie play.
But Lion, I don't know, we'll get into them in a second.
I agree.
I think game one, I've said this a few times and it's been true.
I think game one tells us a lot.
A lot, a lot, a lot.
But right now the goalie play is absolutely in the hands of Montreal.
And I love that for them.
Zach, is this mic work?
Yeah, it's all good.
Come on in, Lox.
Wow.
Gavin McHugh, nephew of Liam McHugh, you know, from TNT.
Yep.
That's my uncle.
Look, little Flyers talk, dude, this is awesome.
Who else?
Who has it better than us right here, right now?
No, absolutely no one.
The Flyers vanquished Sidney Crosby and the Penguins.
Correct.
All-time series.
Who felt a little like they were a little overrated going into the playoffs.
Yeah, but you got scared, though, when the Penguins
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it would be.
Philly fashion to go up, you know, 3-0,
and then all of a sudden you're staring up in a barrel, 3-2.
Okay, so then, dude, now you get the Keynes.
Can we talk about the world we're living in right now,
Bruins's dead, Celtics, dead.
Flyers and Sixers never be more alive.
That's why there's a little bit of life where I actually kind of believe in the flies,
because there's something going on in Philly.
There's something going on in the city of Philly.
So, dude, the Keynes had the best record in the East.
Yep.
Every year they look like a juggernaught entering the playoffs.
Every year they blow it at some point.
They lose at some point.
Yep.
After coming into this year,
I was like maybe this is where this happens.
Maybe they go fuck, we got clipped by the Flyers.
Game one, the Keynes looked very good.
Yes.
How do you respond?
However, when you look at it on paper, like the Flyers actually played a pretty good game.
Yeah.
And like the shots on goal and obviously they're the more aggressive team.
They're actually getting the hits and you know, I feel like they are going to be able to bounce back in this series.
Vladie, goalie, he's a dog.
He's fucking 20 feet tall.
I mean, dude, I'm talking May the Fourth be with you, Darth Lidar.
Oh shit.
Darth Lodar.
Like this is his mom.
Do they go a day?
And you know what's so funny?
I was so excited to play the hurricanes for the exact reason that you just said.
Because every year the hurricanes are buzzing going into the playoff.
And then, you know, a team like in the east, it's been nothing but lightning, panthers.
You know, like the fucking kings never do dick.
Never do dick, dude.
And that's why I was excited now that the flyers buzzing.
They have a little bit of momentum.
That's the only thing you need in hockey.
And I feel like they could bounce back.
I mean, the shots on goal.
It's not like they got like fleeced game.
one, trust me. I am like, uh,
locks is dialed on hockey, yeah. That's incredible.
I mean, I'm, I'm pretty,
I'm a bot when it comes
to hockey, but, dude, you know what I liked?
Because the canes went up,
um, I think they're up two oh in the first, they go up
3-0. Yeah. After that, because dude,
the penguins were, uh,
on paper, a more skilled team.
They had more goals in the regic, you know,
like everything should have, they should have rolled.
Yeah. And the flyers mocked it up.
Yeah. Yeah. And in this game,
they have to do the same. I thought they came out the
started this game and we're trying to play fast-paced and they were getting hemmed in and the
canes went up then the third period they went back to the right back to the script it was like there was
scrums everybody fucking taylor hall's in a fight everybody's in a fight and i was like 10 to 10 to two shots
on goal for the flyers in the third year and i was like you don't want this yeah you don't want
but they let themselves do it and i was like if you play this game you will lose you know
the well hold on i'll say this because that is how philly beat pit yes made them play a different
game they got to stick to the script yes and they did
that too late in this case.
Yes.
Like when you're saying Carolina doesn't want that,
when you're up three nothing,
I love it when a team is trying to muck
because I'm like this,
you're a desperate little bitch,
right?
You're a turtle on your back.
Yeah.
game. There'd be the times where Ottawa would tie it and then boom, goal.
Yep.
Like Carolina was, I think I said they're playing with their food a little bit.
I do think this Carolina team is so much better than that pit team in that if it is a muck
fest and Philly like squeaks in a goal, they're good enough to get like to get their head
out of the mud and tie it or get the lead back.
So I think it's going to be a combo.
Philly does need to be Philly.
Yep.
And they need to muck it up.
But you also have guys like Trevor Zegris.
You have guys like Owen Tippett.
You have guys like TK.
They got a score too.
Like they need to be, get, like, start, drag them into the mud,
but then let your talent show in the mud too.
Because you're, I don't think you're going to be.
You've got mud guys and you got goal guys.
Yeah, my point is you're not going to beat Carolina one nothing.
You're not going to beat them two one.
Like you need to score while playing in the mud.
Yeah.
The Flyers are the St. Johns of the NHL.
Totally.
You know, they're St. Johns.
You need to be.
play your style of game.
It's going to have to be gritty.
You can't fall far behind because this is not a team that's going to claw back from
fucking down 3-0.
You know,
once,
it's immediate deep waters once the flyers go down two goals,
let alone three.
Yeah,
so like they just need to see one go through the bucket early.
And that's when I feel like you give this team a little bit of life in a game and
they start to believe a little bit.
That's what happened in the Penguin series.
All of a sudden it was 3-0.
So I feel like,
I feel like that first game,
they kind of go back to the drawing board
they understand that they didn't necessarily play
their style they're trying to play a little bit up
obviously nerves game one new series young kids
I feel like now game two you reset
go back to the drawing board
you fucking beat
you fucking beat those cowards down in Carolina
and locks fuck fuck the her chickens
dude locks the canes haven't lost yet in playoffs
like they shut up dude you you want to see them bleed
like when they lose how are they going to respond to their first loss
in playoffs you know plus the flyers are coming off a very
high, high emotion win.
Yeah.
So true.
Not only did they just make the playoffs,
they just won a series against their biggest rival.
Like, yeah,
it was a little bit of a letdown spot then having to pack the bags,
travel,
go on the road and play Carolina.
I mean,
now game two,
like I said,
you reset,
you reset and you get things leveled out.
Flyers and seven.
Wow.
Flyers and seven.
That's incredible,
dude.
Incredible.
All right.
All right.
Fliars, go Flyers.
Go six.
I love it.
Fuck the next.
Fuck everyone.
Have a good one.
Thank you.
Fuck.
Fuck the next.
Dan,
let me read you this.
Absolutely.
Because I think this is incredible.
We've been talking about this a lot on this pot.
Because now we should,
now that Lox is left,
we should say the Cains are incredible.
I was about to say,
and Lox has gone.
Cains in five.
Dude,
two things for me.
That Kianre Miller play on,
on Garnett's Breaker.
away?
Yes.
Was one of the great
Superman dives
just getting the puck.
I'm bitching
about penalty shots
and the Gensel play.
I was like
incoming, this was the
most clear incoming
penalty shot I've ever seen.
That is one of the great
one of the greatest
plays of ever seen.
The only play better
was Hegel's saved
on Slavkovsky.
That was the most
miraculous thing I've ever seen
in my life.
But that Keandre play
was insane, dude.
So that was nuts.
Stank scores
97-Hod.
The Canes have played
five games
in the playoffs.
Stank has opened the scoring in four of them, not for his team for the game.
And let me give you this fucking awesome stat that you were unaware of.
And I would like your brain to become aware of it because, and I would like everybody in
the chat's brain to become aware of it before you run your mouth and make a fool of yourself
six times a fool before you can acquire this information.
This is also from our boy Dennis.
Okay.
Marty Natchez, 59 postseason games with the Keynes.
59 postseason games with the Cains, 11 goals.
Miko Rant.
It is...
I was going on.
What?
I was going to say,
it is funny how, like...
Sometimes I forget that Natchez played for the Cains.
Yeah.
Which is ridiculous.
Marty Natchez, 59 postseason games with the Cain's 11 goals.
Miko Rantan, 24 postseason games with Dallas.
10 goals.
Stank Man.
20 postseason games of the Cain's 11 goals.
Yeah?
And people being like, oh my God.
People bringing up the trade a lot, man.
Like who won the trade?
11 goals in 20 playoff games.
We're talking about cooch.
Where's got a score, got to score.
All this guy does is score.
All he's done is score at every level he's ever played.
And the bigger the moment gets, the bigger he gets, which is hilarious because he's five foot, nothing.
Yeah.
But he's got 11 goals in 20 playoff games.
It's unbelievable.
If he's going to continue to do that, the canes look fucking money.
Yeah, they sure do.
Listen, we said the flyers are playing with house money.
getting into the playoffs,
beaten pit,
this is just such a win
and an exciting time for them.
Someone asked on Hockey Talk yesterday,
is Carolina actually really good
or are they just playing bad teams?
And I was like,
that's a great question.
Because senators aren't bad.
Senators are not a bad team.
They are not bad,
but they were a wild card team.
I think they would have given other teams
way more trouble than they gave the canes.
I agree.
But again,
I said it's a great question
because,
you currently look at the fact that they are
5 and 0 in the playoffs. Yeah, right.
And the Flyers, while a
three-seed, were felt like a
wild card. Totally, totally.
So, I think it's a great question.
I think
this win was
so impressive and so
important for Carolina because
they took care of Ottawa,
but as I, well, I've said so many times now,
it was a weird,
they were just like letting
Ottawa hang around and then they would just be
them.
Coming out here, not getting dragged
into the mud fight.
Freddie pitching a fucking shutout.
Dude. It was, that was just
Freddy! And I mean, dude,
a 3-0-0-0 win in round two
is so much more
impressive than a 9-6 win
in round two. And that's not me comparing
Carolina and the Colorado of what I'm talking about
what a tale of two games, right?
Two games, you're looking at that
9-6 game, and when you're Colorado, you come into that
locker room, you go, Jesus Christ, boys.
Yeah. You come in after a 3-0
winning in round two, and you're like, oh, we are
fucking, we are a wagon.
Yep. We are a wagon.
And Carolina is
a wagon. Stank, being red-hot, is
huge. Jarvie
needs to get going. I know. He's got some
shoulder shit going on, but like he's still
making plays. He's such a good player.
Great play on Stank. Second one. He doesn't need
to be all over the score sheet to be
an impact player. They do need it.
Whereas a guy, like Cooch does need to be all over the score sheet to be an impact player.
Jarvie kills penalties.
He's great five on five.
He's blocking shots.
He does everything.
He is blocking shots.
So he does need to get going here.
And I believe he is going to get.
Like, this is what I said yesterday.
Not the player you need to worry about.
Yeah.
Like, but can we just fucking stroke off Taylor Hall for a second?
Well, dude.
He was part of all that too.
my
my Taylor Hall
stance is
I think Taylor Hall
has made the conscious decision
at this point in his career
to go
I've won a heart trophy
I was the first overall pick
I am a talented player
even though he's what
34 yeah probably
34 yeah I think 34
he is a talented
player
he knows on this team
with guys like
Ah-ho, Jarvie, Eelers, Stank.
He doesn't need to be a 70-80-point guy.
He's happy being a 50-60-point guy.
But then he goes, I'm going to do that because I'm going to save it,
and in playoffs I'm going to elevate.
He is elevated in playoffs the last three years.
It's been awesome.
And it's amazing.
I get eyes on the first period in this game just because I want to see the Flyers.
Did the Flyers unlock something?
Or were the canes just on the brakes?
because they were like, whatever, it's 3-0.
You guys are fucking little, little baby boys.
Little baby boys.
Okay, you're first on this one.
Cains, Flyers.
What do you got?
Cains in five.
Give me Cains in six.
I think Flyers, I think the Flyers can muck it up enough, but I am going Cains in six.
Okay, Bruins Sabers.
Brewing Sabers.
Game six.
Masterclass again if the Bruins are going to win we need a sway shutout. It's got to be this way
And then which is tough because it's like it just feels like he's always going to do that
You know there's no there's no wiggle room and then bang
Great play by Dahlia but Alex Tuck scores
Fucking four minutes into the game and we were all like on all of our threads are like well
Yeah goodbye that's that's probably night night which is insane four minutes into a hockey game
But it literally just felt like you would have to keep Buffalo to one goal the entire game to somehow win and if they're gonna
score that fast, we in big trouble.
So then, oh yeah, after that, or there was the disallowed goal, which I forget who batted
that in, but there was the disallowed goal, so you're already a little leaky or a little shaky,
a little nervous, but then middle stat gets a breakaway.
And at this point in the game, I think it was the Bruin's second shot.
The game was 4-1, by the way, I said fine.
Okay.
It was the Bruin's second shot on goal, that middle-stap breakaway.
And you're going, oh, wow, Buffalo's controlling play, they're already winning.
this is a nightmare. That is the type of goal that if that ties the game there, Boston,
the crowd gets back into it. Boston goes, wow, we're getting so outplayed and it's one-one.
Who cares? Changes the entire combustion of the game. So this is my first opportunity of many
to just absolutely bow down to Alex Lyon and the plays he's made. And I was just talking about this
earlier, you just need a save sometimes. You just need a huge save. When you go, whoops, sorry,
we fucked up. Please just give us this one save. This guy has been doing that since he went in.
He's making the saves in those pivotal moments that can change the course of the game.
No doubt.
He gives it to you every time.
It's incredible.
I'm going to stroke off the sabers real quick because really the only things I have to say in this game or in this series are all about the Bruins.
Okay.
Sabers are incredible.
I pick them in six.
I'm happy to have gotten that right.
Yep.
You did two?
No, I have B's in seven.
Oh, yeah.
Like, Tuck is going.
Tage could be going a little bit more, but he's still just.
He's contributing, though.
Everyone has answered the bell of, like, how are playoffs going to be for you guys?
Because this Bruins team is great.
And they're tough out.
And you knock them down, you're dealing with a red-hot sway.
And, like, even in this game, man, like, he only gave up three goals.
And this felt very similar to game four for me.
Yeah.
The boys just, you get out shot 12-6 in the first period on home ice.
In an elimination game.
The boys have just hung out, sway out to drive.
multiple times in this series, which is tough.
But then again, we also hear they are so fucking hurt.
Like, everyone was dead for the Bruins.
And I know everyone is, but like some significant injuries for the Bruins.
But the Sabres have just answered every question.
And I absolutely love it.
And I'm so excited for this series.
I know I picked Montreal and seven.
But I said I was like, I want Buffalo to win.
Me too.
And it's like, it can so go both ways on that one.
Like, I think that's going to get to game seven.
And it's going to be like Montreal Tampa,
I'm like, this is a quaint book.
Both these teams are amazing.
The big thing for them is goal tending.
And Lyons stepping in and being as good as he has been in these last several games is remarkable.
So I want to get to the Bruins.
First and foremost, because most of what I have to say is, like, them, their team as moving forward, we got to discuss Chuckie Wirecross.
That was incredibly insane.
I said this yesterday on the story.
Can't do that.
Yep.
Not okay.
Wires cross moment for sure.
And I'm going to get Charlie is, Charlie can be a rat.
And I've said this.
Yeah, in a good way.
I love this about it.
Yep.
I love rats.
I think rats are so important in hockey.
And Charlie is definitely a rat when he wants to be.
This fucking guy has been through so much this season.
One of the most dramatic seasons I've ever seen for a player in my entire life.
I mean, the injuries, the pucks to the face, the jaw breaking, the teeth loss.
All of this shit is insane.
What he did was so unacceptable.
He will get at least five game suspension, as he should.
You cannot come in and tomahawk someone.
That said, Zach Benson's slewfoot was a piece of shit move.
You know how I feel about slew footing.
It is the biggest pussy thing you can do in hockey, in my opinion.
And Zach Benson was a rat this series.
And the fact that he scored in that game too was so awesome.
And I just said I love it about Charlie being a rat.
I love it about Benson being a rat.
Benson being the size that he is, the player that he is,
and leaning into a rat role is, like that's Brad Marchand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like that's bull-benson could be Brad Marchand for the Buffalo Sabres.
That's exciting.
I love him being a rat.
Keep doing it.
Don't fucking slew-foot people.
And when you're winning a game, I think it was four, it might have been four-one at that
point.
Going in and slew-footing Charlie, that was fucking trash behavior.
So I say that to say,
I get why Charlie was so pissed.
Me too.
You're about to get eliminated.
You've had the season that you've had.
And then this fucking guy slew-foot's you.
My wires would have crossed you.
You just can't Tomahawks.
So I think Benson should get suspended.
One game.
I think, but if he doesn't, whatever,
Charlie absolutely will get suspended and should get suspended.
But, yeah, understandable wires cross,
but you just can't do that.
Yes.
So some things for me.
me on the Bruins big picture.
They're, first of all, they go 0 and 3 at home, right, in the playoffs.
And from nine minutes left in the game, when it's 2-1 Buffalo,
till the empty net goal goes in, which went in with like three-something,
the Bruins didn't have a shot.
Shot attempt.
I know.
So bad.
And I'm like, you're down one.
And if you lose, you're eliminated.
And you're at home.
And it's the third period.
This is the end of the game.
This is the last nine minutes of the game.
And they didn't shoot the puck.
that is so unacceptable.
It's hard for me to even wrap my head around that stat.
What do you think about this, too?
This is nothing, and this is me being a boomer a bit.
But I, the power plays were, the sabres were 0 for four.
Bruins did not get one.
And that also happened to the Edmonton elimination game.
They did not get one.
And the ducks got three or two.
In my opinion, infractions are committed all the time.
Yeah, of course.
It's not like there's no team has ever literally
played a clean hockey game.
And I'm not saying they need to be dead even, but I am just like you got to even that up
a little bit, in my opinion.
That is my take.
And remember that ref got sued for the hot mic that was like, I got to call it.
Yeah, yeah.
But I was like, yeah, you do.
I can't have a team in an elimination playoff game, kill four penalties and have no power
place.
I hear that.
I definitely hear that.
But I don't know, man, when the ice is tilted this significantly, there are times where I'm
like, there aren't infractions.
Like, if you're getting beat down and you're just chrots, you're just chrots.
chasing the whole game,
why is the other team
taken penalties?
So I actually think it is
sometimes likely
that Buffalo is not really doing
anything there.
But you were right,
they happen all the time,
and it,
four to nothing feels unfair.
And I'm like, dude,
like, just call a fucking penalty.
But as a ref,
like, you can't be sitting out there
looking for like,
I gotta call Buffalo
and something here.
Yeah, I'm kind of like,
yes, you are,
but I hear you.
I'm certainly not being like,
well, it's one for one.
I'm just saying like,
dude,
be aware of the fucking situation.
here. This is ridiculous.
And then I just did want to shout out Pasta because he, he scored the one goal,
but it was the play in the neutral zone that I'm shouting out.
Like he stepped up, a Buffalo breakout, Pasta made a big hit, freed the puck up,
then jumped in the two-on-one, great passover.
A dude who's been, has to carry so much weight.
I thought that was a nice play.
But the Bruins, man, they just, they shot themselves in the foot with that face-off play
to Pasta that Linda.
You know, like, that one actually kind of...
I think pasta is like, I mean, he's frustrated.
He should be a heart finalist for this year.
Yeah, yeah, what he does.
It's unbelievable.
So he is, unless you have anything more on this game, I want to get into the Bruins.
Oh, the Bruins.
Yes.
Okay, sure.
The Bruins, I actually, before this series, I have been preaching how bright the future is for Boston.
there's so much shit to be talked about Don Sweeney in the past.
I've done it, and this is now probably the third live in a row where I've been like,
I give him so much credit for this year, for the retool, the restructure, this, that, and the other.
What David Posternak said in his exit interview was eye-opening for me.
Did you see this?
You said it to me. I didn't see it. You texted it to me.
It was a clear call-out to management of pasta going,
Get Me Help.
Yep.
So this guy has had three hundred-point seasons in a row.
I can't do it before.
Is it four?
400-point seasons in a row.
I've said this many times.
David Posternak is the most skilled, talented player in the history of the Boston Brux.
I include Ray Bork.
I include Bobby Orr, I include Esposito.
To have the player in today's game
scoring 100 points four years in a row
and especially when you look at this year and last year
who he's playing with and doing it,
you have a generational, generational talent.
And in his post game, he was like, I'm about to be 30.
Yeah.
I want to win.
He was like, I've sniffed a cup once.
I had one shot at the cup.
Yep.
And I'm about to be 30, and I want help.
Like, I want to go and get one here.
This guy signed an eight-year deal.
He is committed to this franchise.
Morgan Geeky has been a breath of fresh air.
That's amazing.
You kind of lucked into that.
When you signed Morgan Geeky, you didn't think he was going to be a 40-goal guy.
And I got news for you.
He's a 40-goal guy.
He didn't literally score 40, but you know what I mean?
39, yeah.
Because of David Posternack.
Victor Arbotson was a fucking delight this year.
What a fucking miracle.
Bye.
Yeah.
he's gone.
I don't think Boston is signing him
because he's about to get a five-year
fucking deal for something.
Yeah, damn right.
Bye, he's gone.
You have the exciting kid line
of Fraser Minton,
who's Nadinov, and Higgins.
Hagen's got fucking scratched,
got health bombed,
and it's his first...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
First jump into the NHL.
I'm not giving Hagan shit.
On the other hand,
you look at Porter Martone,
exact same situation.
Yep.
And look at what he's done
for this Philly group. Power Play 1
pumping in goals. Hagen's couldn't do that.
So while the future is bright for Boston, they've got
Hagen's, they've got Minton, who is great this year.
Didn't do much in the playoffs. You've got Laterno on BC.
You've got Zellers. Pasta being 30 next year.
McAvoy being 29 next year.
You've got Sway who's locked up.
You do, when you've made the playoffs this year
and you've accelerated the rebuild,
you do have to look at a guy
like pasta and a guy like Chucky and be like, we should try to compete right now.
Yeah.
So the Bruins, while I am like the future is bright, you have to look at the fact that
in 2011 they won a Stanley Cup that no one expected them to win.
They then lost in 13.
They then lost in 19.
They have two president's trophies.
For sure second round, choke jobs.
You wasted the president.
the prime core of Bergeron, Kreachy, Marchand,
and Chara.
Yeah.
And Rask.
Yeah.
You wasted that.
Oh, dude.
I say this all the time.
It's a trashy.
The Boston Bruins won a Stanley Cup in 1972.
Then they won in 2011, and they have, in my opinion, choked in 2019, lost in 13.
And now you have another generational player like Poshnak, like McAvoy, like Sway.
What are you going to do with it?
What are you going to do with it?
a time where the East feels pretty open.
You've got Toronto trending down, Tampa, trending down.
I'm sorry.
Like, Hedman is so hurt he's not playing.
Cooch is 33.
Points, a broken man.
Like, these teams are trending down.
You have the opportunity to trend up.
What does Boston do now?
And I think that pasta call out was a like,
hey, Don, great job with guys like getting, bringing geeky
and getting mintin in that trade,
a great little player, drafting Hagen's,
Laterno, Zellers.
That's five years out.
What are we doing now?
I think it's a very interesting question.
Yeah, especially because you just look at
you're behind Montreal, for sure.
You're behind Buffalo, as it seems right now.
I know Buffalo's been so, like,
they had a great year, and then they were awful.
You're behind Buffalo.
So now you're in this race with Detroit,
and Ottawa and, you know, a Tampa retool maybe, right?
Like, that's your situation right now.
Yes.
So figure it out because it's go time.
Yep.
And again, you have a guy like David Posternak who is just straight up like, go get me help.
We, you want to talk about, and this is my last thing, you want to talk about is Austin Matthews going to get traded?
Is Brady Kachuk going to get traded?
Yep.
Is Connor McDavid?
Is Leon Drysiddle going to get traded?
if you're not making phone calls on all four of those guys
as Don Sweeney,
you are...
You're not a serious franchise.
You are not a serious GM.
You're not a serious franchise.
And I'm dead ass all four of those guys.
I would put a package together and call those teams and go,
I'm being aggressive here.
I'm prepared to give you this.
You've got the fucking HL goalie of the year in DPA-HRO.
Yep.
You got Higgins.
You got Laterna.
You got Zellar.
You have great pieces for the first time in a long time.
Make a move.
Potentially, when we see the lottery, if it's six or lower,
you got that Toronto first round pick.
Pray to God, it's six or lower.
You got to make a fucking move.
Yep.
You have to.
Just to put a bow on it for Buffalo.
What a moment for the Buffalo savers, dude.
Into the second round, it's fucking incredible.
If I do not get to Buffalo for round two,
agree.
What they have accomplished this year, especially after the start they had, right, until
December 9th or whatever it was, I mean, my God, the fact that they sat here and said,
we're going through this again, it will never end in this city, we'll never make playoffs,
life is unfair, get me a bowl of cereal.
But instead, dude, lather up a new plate of wings because you're playing hockey in
fucking May.
How sick is that, Buffalo?
It's incredible.
The calendar says five.
month five and you're playing hockey.
It's incredible.
I'm thrilled for them.
I'm thrilled, honestly.
I'm thrilled they did that before game seven.
They didn't need that shit.
I'm glad they handled it in six.
I'm glad that Lion has been so massive
because God, that's kind of how you do it in playoffs.
What a swing.
And then it's just like you said,
Tage isn't even really going yet.
Their potential,
and they haven't even reached their potential.
I saw a quote from the Keynes that said,
we're still searching for our perfect game,
which is hilarious because they haven't lost in the playoffs.
It's very raw.
thing to say. I think Buffalo is still searching for their perfect game. Think about that.
You're into the second round and you haven't even played the best you guys can play yet. No question
about that. That's a great fucking point by you. So I'm like, man, dude. And, and finally,
actually last thing, they're doing everything that you need to do in playoffs that I was concerned
that they couldn't. They are smothering teams with the forecheck, clogging up the neutral zone.
Boston doesn't have a shot for six minutes at a time in an elimination game. Buffalo everywhere.
They're scoring goals. They're getting goalie play. They're not getting hemmed in their own zone.
breaking out cleanly.
Like everything, I was like, oh, man, it's a different game in playoffs.
The Buffalo Sabres said, asked and answered you, fucking bitch.
And I said, thank you, good day.
Enjoy the second round.
I cannot wait for that series.
Me too.
Let's wrap things up in this episode talking about the Golden Knights, Utah Mammoth series.
Golden Knights taking care of the Mammoth.
Five to one.
Dan, unfortunately, the Mammoth have only won 33% of their playoff games at Delta.
Which is such a crazy swing because if people forget, they were undefeated.
There was a long stretch in Mammoth history where they were
undefeited. They were undefeated for us. And now, unfortunately, they are not. This game for me,
C.P. This game was over before it started. Yes, it was, which I was very surprised by. I said the
mammoth would win. I was like, boom. It was a good little battle. I think Howden scored like
15 minutes into the first period. But it just, it felt like to me, like, I think, or let me
see, yeah, 10, 6 and shots. Like, Vegas was all over them. And when Howden scored,
I was like
I think you did.
Dude, it was crazy, Dan.
It was the best Vegas
looked by a country mile.
Yeah.
And I, for me,
this game was the first time
in this series
where I went,
ooh, do we have to be worried
about Vegas?
Yes.
Like they are, truly,
all the games before,
their comebacks,
like, you know,
they had unbelievable comeback wins.
This was the,
first game where I was like, oh boy. And also, credit to him, Carter Hart's best game. Yep.
I thought Utah, they didn't have that many shots, but I thought Utah had some pretty good
chances that Carter made like big saves on. And you wonder if he is now like, you win this series
in six games, you played every second of every game. And you wonder if Carter Hart is finally like,
because people forget, like, he didn't play a full season. Yep, right. You wonder if this was him being
like, oh, I'm in my, I'm in my fucking bag now.
I'm in my duffy.
Well, dude, the only thing I'll say, though, is the one goal they did score, the Yamamoto
shot, heart has to have.
Like, it literally just hits him right here and goes in.
And I'm like, if I'm Vegas, the only thing that scares me is as good as he has looked,
he's still giving up a goal like that every now and then.
And, dude, it's the playoffs.
Like, there are, you know, goals sneak in here and there.
I'm not saying every goal he has to be perfect.
But it's just his, his, he has the ability or the, the, it's not, I don't know what
to call it ability, but he has the,
possibility to give up goals like that occasionally.
And that scares me as a team where you're like,
please, because dude, that one, I almost made this joke.
This makes it sound harsh.
But in Beer League, when you can't hit,
all we can really do on D is just force a guy wide outside the dot of the circle.
And then if the shot goes in, I look at my goalie and I go,
are you insane?
Yeah.
What do you want me to do?
Yamamoto gets taken wide and just fires a wrist shot from the near far hash of the circle.
And it goes in.
And I'm like, that can never go in, literally ever.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
an NHL goalie in the playoffs.
You cannot be letting that end.
He did shut the door otherwise.
Yes, yes.
But you're right.
Someone said on our page yesterday, someone was like,
oh, like Utah choke job, but the future is bright.
And I was like, I don't even think of it that way, man.
Agreed.
I don't think that there's any, even though I was on here on the fucking live show last week
being like they fucking blew that game, they did.
But I don't think this is a choke job.
Vegas is a very good team.
Vegas is, they've been in the playoffs every fucking year
except for one of their entire existence.
They've won a Stanley Cup, they've been to another.
This team is no joke.
You always say they are the team that goes and fucking makes
the most drastic moves in the world.
Martyr becomes available, they go get them.
Rasmus Anderson becomes available, they go get them.
Jack Eichel becomes available, they go get them.
Carter Hart becomes available, they go get them.
Vegas wants to win.
That is a dangerous team to play, and you took them to six.
That's great.
Oh, dude, be incredibly proud.
I'm so sad we didn't get to go back that we were trying to our schedule
got jammed.
I'm so sad we didn't get to experience that again.
But this mammoth team sucks losing the playoffs.
You should be on cloud nine.
And I will do a little gas up for the mammoth year.
I mean, you make the playoffs in your second year of existence.
You take Vegas, a great team who won the Pacific, say what you will about the Pacific,
to six games.
That's fantastic.
But the bigger thing for me is that you, you take.
You are officially a playoff team now.
And you were officially a destination.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Because while it happens with trades,
you get guys like Mikhail Cirgachev,
you get guys like Sean Dersey,
you get guys like Mackenzie Weigar,
you have these players who get there and they go,
oh, fucking rights.
You have Clayton Keller who commits to the team.
You have Nick Schmaltz who commits to the team.
You have Logan Cooley.
You are a team that players are,
not happy to be at, but desperate to be at.
You have your new facility.
You have an amazing arena that's only going to get better.
You have an amazing fan base that's only growing and going to get better.
Utah is, without question, a destination now.
This is a team that players want to play for and you're a playoff team.
Yep.
That's fantastic.
Vegas.
This is a big time opportunity to go right back to the Western Conference final.
Uh-huh.
We love the duckies.
Can't wait to go to a game this round.
But what do we do last week, talking about Mitch Marner, being like, you got to wake up to, during the show.
Yeah.
Mitch wakes up, makes a great play, gets an assist on the game winning goal.
He comes into this game, two tucks.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, welcome to the party, pal.
Dude, genuinely welcome to the party, pal.
Dude, that was, because, dude, that was, howding gets the goal, which, by the way, was also off of Mitch shot.
Like Mitch fired that, dude, and I said this on the Friday live,
we've got to be shooting off the end boards more.
I literally do not understand how no, in every goal in playoffs is just a ricochet off
the end boards that bounces back out in front and someone scores.
It is insane, and people need to be actively doing this on purpose.
But Mitch Marner fires one off the end boards, bounces out to how it and goal,
you know, after a dominant first period.
Yeah.
We are 40 seconds left in the second, still won nothing.
So this is one of those of the mammoth are hanging on and you go,
fuck, put them away, put them away, one,
bad bounce and we're fucking tied, then Marner hammers that slap shot in.
Huge Selly.
And I was like, oh shit.
And that, and then obviously gets another one too, which made it even better.
But this was a, okay, dude, thank you, buddy, because I paid good American dollars to get
your ass out of Toronto to bring you here where you said the only reason I'm not winning,
going deeper in playoffs and winning cups is because of the Toronto media and the pressure and all
the bullshit.
Yeah.
You're here, you're here now.
You're home now.
No one needs, no one cares.
You can just participate, but you got to participate.
And he kind of wasn't.
Like I saw this headline that was like, Marner, Clutch Marner's, the reason Vegas is doing well.
And I was like, nobody doesn't.
But now, but now I'm like, two goals, five assists, seven points and six games.
Yep.
Jack Eichael, one goal, eight assists, nine point six games.
Like your two best players are going.
And, you know, like if Mitch is away, also Mitch, Mitch, the amount of shit that Toronto players got for their playoff collapses,
is Mitch has 70 points in 77 playoff games.
Yeah.
Like Mitch and, you know, unbelievable game winning assist in four nations.
Like Mitch can play in a big game.
And you get out of the first round in six games.
Both of those guys are over point per game.
I want Jack scoring more, definitely.
But you're going up against the ducks now.
And you've got to be, if you're Vegas, you've got to be like,
we are winning this series.
We have to win this series.
So, well, I don't want to do the prediction yet.
I'll save that stat for there.
Yeah, I think I go, if you're Vegas.
But Dan, I just think, though, Mitch needs to, Mitch and Jack need to score like this.
I think all the assists aren't going to be enough to carry them through because they have some.
I've been concerned all year with their defense, and I know they have some studs back there.
Shea Theodore's incredible hand.
is incredible.
Yeah.
But you're missing that Petrangelo guy, which we'll say for the millionth time,
where I'm like, this matters in playoffs.
And you either need a guy like that or an incredible goalie,
and you're not getting incredible from heart, you're getting good.
And you don't have this minute-eating motherfucker on the blue line, you know.
So I've still been afraid it's going to catch up to Vegas if they don't get an incredible
offensive performance.
They have guys that can do it, but I need them to actually do it.
Yeah.
This was a step in the right direction for Mitch.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like right now going into the series, you have Mitch and Jack in a very great headspace.
Yes.
And that's huge.
Yep.
Okay.
Do you want to do the prediction?
Yeah.
Okay.
I think you start this one.
Or no, I start there.
I can't remember.
You start.
All right.
I'm going to start.
And what I'm about to say is going to blow your mind, but I'll tell you why.
Yeah.
I'm going.
I'm having sick thoughts over here.
I'm ready.
Ducks in five.
and I'll explain.
I'll explain.
Ducks in four.
Oh, I was like, holy shit.
Ducks in seven.
Wow, I can't believe you're on ducks.
Yeah.
Okay, here's why.
Let me read this to you.
Last year, Vegas versus the Wild, round one.
Game one, I'm speaking from the Vegas POV here.
Game one, win.
Game two, loss.
Game three, loss.
Game four, win, overtime.
Game five win overtime, game six win.
The exact same thing happened this year against the manna.
Like literally with the overtimes.
Like that verbatim, Vegas did the same thing in the first time.
So they're going to win game one against the ducks and then lose four straight.
So I have no choice but to assume that the exact narrative in round two is going to happen.
I don't think the ducks are going to win in five.
The universe is exerting that upon me.
Sure.
So I am not one to to poo-poo the universe.
So I don't think this is going to happen,
but I have to say Dux in Five
because something magical is happening,
and I love magic.
If Quenville can shore up the defense even a little bit for the ducks,
and if Dostol can lock in a little bit,
which, let's be honest, has been hard for them all year long.
Yes.
They will win this series.
Because I do think there are guys banged up on Vegas.
I don't think Vegas's D is that threatening.
and the fucking duckies,
they've got so many guys who can score.
Yep.
So I think they can pull it off.
My fear for the ducks, though, is this.
The Aves, for example,
just played two such different teams, right?
They played a team that can't score,
and then they played a team that can't score.
Yeah, you fear is they're playing the exact same team.
The Vegas just played the young, dumbful-of-come team.
Yeah.
Who's like, we're pumped to be here.
Yeah.
And they kind of took a second to get the die.
You're terrible.
Go away.
And now they're like, are you just the mammoth again?
They're like, yeah, hell yeah, we are.
And I'm like, oh, four.
Vegas and four.
That's a good point.
So we'll see, but this might make us eat crow here.
This is going to be fun.
Yeah, this is going to be fun.
This was fun.
Amazing, amazing, amazing live show.
What do we got for games tonight, CP?
Tonight we have Keynes versus the Flyers, Vladar on May 4th.
That's interesting.
Interesting.
That's extremely interesting.
And then I believe we have Vegas Ducks game one at 930 Eastern.
So yeah, we're going to find out real quick how high.
flying the ducks are how the power play looks and if if which one of these goalies can stop the
puck um but yeah two great ones too a game two a game one i'm fired up fired up as well that's
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