Empty Netters Podcast - The Ducks Are In First And The Panthers Are In Last?!

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

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Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all year? Not I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.

Finish tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guineasas is right into you guys. That's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready, even in Mexico. and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers, all the way back in America. We got producer Sean, the Irishman on the sticks. And a man who sounds like an absolute wood chipper whenever he's chewing gum, it is that goofball, that clown, Christopher Powers.

I got deep teeth, as always. That's always your excuse, but you be smacked, brother. I got deep teeth. The dentist, they tell me, they go, you have amazing oral care and you got deep teeth. And I say, thank you. I got to admit, the kid has great oral hygiene. You're flossing all the time. You haven't bled in years.

Literally, dude, I'd be, I'll be waking up flossing. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night, I'm flossing. I don't even know what happened. Oh, man, it's one of your only good qualities. Speaking of people, CP, who are going to be bleeding, we've got crazy hot ice action to get into so many topics. We got to go. We got to go. We're going to try to give you babes all of the info, rapid fire. So we're going to get going. Like I said, speaking of people who might be bleeding, Nikita Zedorov had a wild, wild run with the New York Islanders and particularly their fans. So let's jump right into it, C.P. last night on Tuesday. Tuesday night, the Bruins went down to the island, played the islanders, had a crazy tilt, won an OT. And Nikita Zadorov stole all the. the attention, stole all the show, got in the mixer with the little boy, with the little 18-year-old, the starving man who can't afford to eat dinner, according to you.

Matthew Schaefer and Zedorev tied up from the center ice, go all the way into the D-Zone, into the Boston's D-Zone, they go behind the net, they're slugging at each other, smoking at each other. I mean, Zaddy is the biggest dude in the NHL right now, possibly. Barry Schaefer into the boards, as Schaefer's getting up, he's tugging on his stick. I love it. Getting in the mixer with the big fella. Zadora gives him a shot right to the face as he's getting up holding on to his stick. And then the Islanders players went berserk. They swarmed Zadorov. There was a whole

full on line brawl, just nonsense going on. I want to stop there and talk about that. I love that. Love that response from the Islanders. I, Zedora, first of all, Zadarv is lucky that Schaefer has turned 18 because that could have been assault. Assault of a minor. Salt of a minor. And then you get in real trouble. Now we're talking real trouble. As far as what happened, I think everything by the players happened perfectly and was not a big deal. I think Zadorov's cross check into the glass was in nothing.

It was just like a good play. And Schaefer kind of just lost his balance. He wasn't flopping. He just loses his balance. Yeah. Then Schaefer tugs on his stick, which is fine because he's like, fuck you. And then Zadorov face washes him, which is also fine. That wasn't like a cross check.

Who was that a couple years ago when someone literally cross-checked a dude in the face? Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. I do remember that. I can't think of the player off the top of my head. But it was a I feel like it was a conuck player. Oh, I think it was. It was a dog. Was it? So he's, look it. He's changing his ways. Because this was not that. This was not that, dude. He, this was like a face to the, to the, to the, to the, or a hand to the face. And then the Islanders guys, you know, jump him because that's Shaf Daddy. And I was like, this is all, everything is fine here. Everything is fine. It's what happened. after, which is what is insane. I'll completely agree.

The Islanders fans slide into Z's DMs saying, don't touch Shaper like that. You're a fucking pussy. We're coming after you. You're going to get clipped the next time you come here, all this nonsense. And you got to love it from Zedorov. He threw out a great chirp.

He was like, get out of my DMs and get into your rink and cheer on your team. That place was a library. First of all, library is such a good chirp. Such a good chirp when you're talking about an opposing team's barn. but the point of this discussion of this quick hitter was A, Bruins, Islanders, all the players, specifically Zadora of and Schaefer, A plus is across the board.

That's great. That's good hockey, dude. That's getting in the mixer. And I respect it so much from Schaefer. Schaefer being a young 18-year-old going up against a monster like Zedorov and being like, yeah, whatever, dude, I'm going to get buried probably, but I'm getting in the mix. You love to see that. Our message here to the fans is just kind of.

the shit with that. Like being that type of fan sliding into a player's DMs because they hurt your feelings. They were big, you're a big bad bully to your favorite player on your favorite team. I'm going to send death threats to an NHO player. Which you would never act on. Which you would never act. Like they're like, we're going to find you. I'm like, what if you saw him in the street? Like, what if you in a back alley you walked into Zedorov? Would you kill him? Would you try to kill him? Exactly. Exactly. CP. Not only that, not only would you not say shit. if you did say shit, you probably ask for his autograph. So this is our message to fans.

Don't be those type of people. Don't be those type of fans where you're sliding into a player's DMs with threats and negative speak because they get something so mean. You're just, you are the biggest L7 weenie that exists in the hockey space. Drives me. Dan, we're not going to get into it, but just need to point out, life comes out you fast in pro sports. Life comes out you fast anywhere, but certainly in professional sports. And how crazy is it that Lane Hudson was this darling? Like, oh my God, a defenseman won rookie of the year.

And he's like the few, he's the bright shining star, which he still is. He's second in points in D. But then, but careful because he still is. But literally Matthew Schaefer is now here and is like, I have fucking 11 points in 13 and I'm, I'm the guy. I'm going to win rookie year. And I'm like, holy shit. And CP, 5 and 6, too. Like he's not pulling this like, I've got one.

goal and tennis is like he's just a perfect hockey player. Dude, we said it a couple weeks ago. He is king of the aisle. He is king of the aisle. He is revitalizing and just changing the game. Because Lane has one and 12, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, which is his bag. He's his bag. He's just saying. Yeah, he's a quarterback. Yeah, he's a quarterback. But cold, or I mean, but fucking Shafe, dad, he's insane. Stick taps to Sheaf because he is buzzing. I'm telling you, man, he's changing the culture. You love to see it. Speaking of great culture and things that we don't love to see, the Florida Panthers, at the time of recording here on the 5th of November, are dead last in the Atlantic below the Buffalo Sabres, below the Boston Bruins. I mean, the Boston Bruins are currently in a playoff spot, which is crazy. They are a roller coaster. Let's talk about the Florida Panthers, because listen, the first topic is, is it time to panic? Is it time to worry?

But the reality is they're 6, 6 and 1, but they have a dash 7. They're 5 and 1 at home, CP 1 and 5 on the road. Struggle bus on the road a little bit. Bob is 6 and 4 with an 8-83 save percentage, 2.28 goals against. Goals against, not that bad. I know. Are you panicking in Florida just yet? We knew they were coming to this season with a lot of injuries, especially after Barkov went down.

But they've got Barkov out. They've got Kukukukov out, Nosek out, and Gajivich out. all very important players to this team. They're last in the Atlantic. How are you feeling about the Florida Panthers? And how are you feeling if you're a Florida Panthers fan? They're pretty close to the Oilers for me. I don't need to do your rant again about Edmonton,

but it's like if any other fan base in the league was going to chill out, it was these guys, especially with the injuries. We all said with the injuries they're going to start slow. Before Barkoff went out, we said there's literally no chance they could make playoff or miss playoffs. When he went out, I was like, oh, man, I guess there's a chance, but I still think it's 1%. So I'm not worried at all. The dead last is an exaggeration because of how close the points are still, right?

Like it'll change tomorrow. And like we've talked about a billion times, CP, 13 games. Like it's still early. At 20 games, we can no longer say it's still early, in my opinion. But I am willing to say already that they are now going to be a, we got to grind a bit to make sure we make it. Like I think they're going to be a three seed wild card type situation, which they don't give a fuck about. They will happily go right back to the cup as a wild card if they get healthy. But I do think they're not going to be a one-two seed in the Atlantic at this point.

No doubt about it. For me, I'm not worried. I'm not worried if I'm the Panthers just yet. But you do go, okay, we're not fine, right? There's a big difference between being fine and being worried. They're not fine because 13 games in being last, regardless of the fact that you're 500. Like you're okay. Frankly, I think the surprise here is how good teams like Detroit, teams like Montreal are. And they're kind of like, oh, shit. I mean, like the division's strong. That's why we're in last, in quotes. But you are a little bit, I think seeing a combination of so many injuries that was always going to be an issue. But I do think, and I think this team is so professional. I think they're so strong. I don't think it's the too much hockey thing. But at the same time, even for us, man, being a couple of bums, a couple of bums in our 30s on the road, I feel like I can't believe we're 13 games in the season. It felt like yesterday we were at elbow room with the boys. And it felt like yesterday we had Benny on the show and how he was like, dude, I haven't even skated. It is three straight ears of the cup. You come in, some of your best players are out injured. It is just like it's almost too much too soon. And I think that's why we've seen a bit of a quote unquote slower start from some of their big dogs. So I think it's a bad.

combination of all of that that have them in this space where again they're going they're right now going i mean we're not fine we're okay we're not panicking but you do need to start grinding a little bit more we're good we're good we're going to be good we're going to be we're going to be we're going to be good because yeah you you can't get in too much of a hole here if these other teams in the Atlantic are in fact as good as they seem to be yep bob started so last year, don't forget, he's going to be fine. Speaking of a team that's good in the Atlantic, the habs, Dan, the habs are the real deal. We, we, we, we slept on them. We slept on them in the preview. We slept on them in the preview. They are not fucking around. They are not fucking around, Chris.

I think it was very clear that we, we have been high antennaed, antenna thrown up as high as it goes, about the switch. A switch is going to happen in the Atlantic at some point for a year. For years, We had Toronto, Tampa, Boston, Florida, atop the Atlantic. And then there's just such great youth. There's such great movement in Montreal, in Ottawa, in Detroit, and in a lot of ways in Buffalo. Absolutely. They have some struggles too, but they've got some good young players. We were wondering when will the switch happen.

We weren't sure it was fully going to happen this year. And we both got it wrong. We got it wrong so far. We were like, I think, I mean, I think I had Montreal. making the playoffs but as a wild card. You got them as a fifth, so it was like amazing. Yes. Yes. And I mean, here they are and they're just so

fucking nasty, dude. Tell me where they're good in everything. Dude, exactly, right? 9, 3 and 1 in the season at the time of recording. They're great home and away. You love to see that. Their records home and on the road are really, really strong.

But this is my favorite part about this HAPS team so far. We're through 14, 13 games of the season here, okay? Yep. Suzuki is fourth in the NHL in points. Cole Coughfield is first in the NHL in goals, tied, but still. Lane is second in the NHL in points for a defenseman. Demidov is first in the NHL in points for a rookie. Dobes is second in the NHL in goals against and third in the NHL and save percentage. They have a player fourth or higher in the league in about every metric you can get that are the big, big metric.

tricks. That is remarkable. They're doing all this without line A. Line A's been out for a couple of weeks here. And, you know, he's going to be a big, big goal score. You think about things like the power play, things about goal difference. That was a big thing last year. They have a plus seven gold diff right now. Dude, this team is just like every game, you know, even when they do lose one. And you're like, oh, is a skid going to start? It's like, bang, they win the next one immediately. And they win it emphatically, too. And they've had a lot of great comeback wins. but it's just like all of their top guys seem to be having that, oh, I'm not hot, this is who I am.

That's exactly. Yeah, I like that. Are they better without lining? I don't ever want to say that about a guy because that's just, that's just a better without lining. Listen, I think it doesn't love. Do you trade line A, do you trade line A and acquire, now we're talking, middle depth. Okay. Do you go, I don't need you.

You are good and we love you. But I don't need you and I would like what you can get me. C.P. Now we're talking. Now you're bringing some juice. Now you're bringing some juice to the campfire here. I think there's a chance that you look at how good this team. And listen, remember when Line A joined, he was just goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals, goals.

And you love that. But we've talked a lot about Line A, he's been on a few different teams. You're not really sure what. you're going to get from him over 82 games. Here he is injured again. And you do wonder with seeing how successful this team is, how great all of their lines are clicking. And you look at his cap hit in a team that is already in a beautiful cap situation.

Do you make your cap situation even better? Do you just move him and go, listen, it's just like maybe it's not a good fit here. That is a super interesting discussion. Now, I think line is a great player. He's a great, great goal score. But yeah, dude, if the Habs, with their elite caps setup are in a place where they can go, I think we're fine without him. Yeah, dude, maybe you move them.

I mean, could you imagine? Could you imagine if they got even more cap space and if they got something valuable back for them? The last thing I wanted to bring up with this team is, you know, like we were talking about, can they keep this up? I think it looks like, yes, it looks like they are. I'm sold. I'm sold. Yep. I think what we're seeing and also Habs fans hit us up in the DMs.

If I'm saying dobs, I don't know if it's Dobbs, but I think it's dobs, but whatever. He's been fantastic. And you've also got great goalie prospects in your system. Like, we talked about they are one of these teams, maybe that you make a move for a goalie, but look at the goalie play they're getting. So I think they can keep it up. The big question I have for you is, do they trade for a second line center? Kirby Doc, friend of the program, absolutely fantastic player.

He's currently slotted in most of the time that's that second line center. He's got five points in 10 games, three goals to assist. The question is, with how much everyone else is buzzing, what would this team look like, dude? If they had a, you know, this, for the time being at least, the dream and the fantasy of Sidney Crosby coming to his home team is probably gone. But like, there are potentially guys out there. There was a rumor that popped up of Nazim Codry being a trade target for Montreal. I don't know exactly how I see that fit working out. but there is an opening possibly

of getting with all their cap space a great second line center to slot in there have Doc move out to the wing, have Doc move to third line center and then you're fucking so deep but I think that that's something to keep an eye on.

You're right, there's luxury to be had and they'll search for it but I still think Herbs is a guy because if you're getting a great... You're on page for you know 40. If you're getting 60 from him though,

if you get 60 from your second line center that's a fucking... That is a luxury and I think he is that guy. Yeah. Great, great transition again, Dan, about some goalie talk. We're going to the Canes. The Cains, everyone, heavy favorite, right?

Heavy Vegas favorite, both Vegas and Carolina preseason. They look gross so far. They're third in the Met. They're eight and four. But do they have a goalie issue? Maybe, man. I mean, we've said it a bunch of times. Yeah, third in the Met.

they've got significant injury for how good they are. I mean, for the first six games, we're like, damn, they're probably the best team in the league right now. They're without Slavin, you know,

I mean, literally Slavin the Allfather. They're the best defensemen in the game. They're without ghost. They're without Keandre, two really important offensive weapons on the blue line, without carrier, without Robinson.

Like, that's a heft. Yeah, I'm like, how are you winning games? And they're like, were that good. Yeah.

It's crazy. Rod the ball. He's like, we're not making playoffs. We stink. And I'm like, dude, what are you talking about? Enough with the mind games, Rod. We talked about Freddie Anderson a lot on this team. He's one of the best people on planet Earth.

Yeah. He's a very good goaltender. I do think people forget how old he is. And I think in the last couple of years, we've seen that maybe there's a chance that Freddie is, he's not this horse that you can ride deep into the playoffs. What were you saying? you don't think he's that old. No, he's 36. I checked. I was thinking it was like 34,

35, but he's 36. So exactly proven my point. Like, people forget. Like, I think Freddie, I mean, he looks so young in the regular season. He's moot. He's, she's spry and you would, you would guess, yeah, he's like 32, 34, but he's 36. Like, that's, I mean, Christ, he's, he's been playing as the number one goalie on, on a couple of teams here for a long time. And right now he's got a 296 goals against 8, 9,4 save percentage. You want to, I wonder if their tandem situation is good enough. If this is the team, you know, we talk about this team has caps base. They've done remarkably well with all of their contracts.

So many people have asked the question is like, what's the piece they need? Do you add this? Do you add that? And I'm sitting here wondering, is goalie what they needed? When Markstrom got traded to the devils, we were saying that Carolina is a one team of like, yeah, Gibson, too, is like this guy or this team is a goalie away from being in the Stanley Cup, in my opinion. It feels like, or go ahead. No, no, I was just, you know, I was harping.

It feels like they, and I love Freddie. I think he's a good, a very good talent in this league. But it just, it's been too many times, I think, banging your head against the wall where he's not stealing you playoff games. He's not losing them for you. It's not, no offense, because Stewart Skinner is my most interesting player in the league. But there's been times where you feel like Stuart Skinner lost me a game, a playoff game, a playoff series. Freddy is rarely, not never, but Freddie's rarely losing them the series.

I don't think they lost to the Panthers last year because of Freddie Anderson. But he's not taking these the way some of these elite goalies are and winning. And you can win without it. I don't think Kemper was stealing games in that avs run. He was good enough. And he's been nasty his career. But like, so you can do it, which is why I think the canes just keep doing it. But you're in a situation here where I'm like, this is too many times. you need to get someone that's going to put you over the hub. Yeah, I'll give, I'm going to give Kemper a couple of steals. I'm always, I'm a d'orse.

Remember they put in Frankie though? Like Kemper missed like the whole second round or something. It was crazy. But he did have. He had some great fucking games where he, I think he did steal a game. But yeah, you're absolutely right. Freddy's a fantastic goalie. The question, though, is like, is he stealing you games that's going to get you to the

cup? Because that's what they need, right? Like they are, they need to get over the hump. Right there every fucking year. Yep. Eelers too. What's your deal, Bail? Score a goal. Score a fucking goal.

He did last night for like that. He absolutely ripped one last night. I think the dam is officially going to break. But there's no doubt about it. I mean, that's my guy. He is the biggest person in the room who is frustrated about this. I mean, I know that this guy wanted to come in and go, you know, I'm finally getting PP time.

I'm finally on a top line here. He wants to be a 40 goal guy. This is not the start that he wanted. Still can be. Still can be. I do think he can get it going. I think the way he celebrated really fired him up. He was like, let's fucking go.

It wasn't that. Remember when Zegra scored last year with the ducks? And it was like the monkey off the back moment. And he was just like, look for, he was just like, fuck me, dude. I think that is is not the headspace you want to be in. And as we talked about last episode, it's so nice to see Z in the better headspace. Eilers, I think is in a good headspace. I think he's in a good group.

I think he loves these boys. They're going to lift him up. He's going to start, start getting. buzz in. But yeah, as he starts get going, these guys come back for injury, all is very, very well in Carolina. But you do wonder, is that goalie thing something that you got to worry about? A goalie that you do not have to worry about Christopher. And frankly, let's say the rest of the team is the Anaheim ducks. I mean, dude, can you believe first in the Pacific for the first time? I know it's not official, but the last time they won the Pacific was 16-17, I think.

It's like almost a decade here. This team is at the top of the Pacific, and God damn, do they look good? Dude, it's so awesome. We both, I'm pretty sure you had them too, but we both had them in the playoffs. And it was kind of like, you know, you plant your flag here, and you're like, I'm loving the ducks, but they actually scared me that they were too hyped. Everybody, that was like everybody's sleeper pick. The ducks look good.

The ducks look good. Then we go to the season opener. They drop their roster in front of, in our eyeball. And I'm like, this is the best team I've ever seen. How could this team not make playoffs? And then they're delivering dead. They look incredible. Kreider has been such a fucking awesome pickup,

both from a veteran presence in the room, teaching those boys, pumping in power play goals like he was fucking born to do. Everybody's firing. And dude, Cutter. Like, Cutter has 10 goals, bro. Like, he's literally only has the most goals in the league right now. Like, that's what you thought you had when you traded for him.

And he'll see him do that? Yeah, man. Holy fuck. Truba! Truba's got eight points. Can we play a sad violin for the New York Rangers? Crider, seven goals and eight games. Truba has eight points.

I mean, good God. That must be like so just salt in the wound in the biggest way. And yeah, Cutter with his first career hat trick last night, they beat the brakes off the Panthers, belt to ass. They're beating teams too, Dan. Like their teams are coming up in here and they're beating them. Yeah. This team's eight, three, and one. favorite thing about the duckies, right? We talk about goal difference a lot and giving up goals.

They've got a plus 11 goal differential. Third in the NHL. They're locking down on D. Hellison's playing so well. The young boys look really, really good. Lacombe is fucking out of control. But talking about the young boys, seventh in the NHL and points right now, Leo Carlson. Remember when Leo Carlson went second overall right behind Connor Bred and people were like, wow, Leo Carlson getting a lot of love. People started comparing him to Anja Kopitar. He is really. Right here, brother. He is right here in his, what is it, third year in the NHL. And my good God almighty, this kid is special. He is really, really just dominating on the ice. He's fully grown into that big body. He looks mature out there. Just like we talked about Beckett. Yeah. And you start to Wonder Man. We talked about Beckett a few or a couple weeks ago and how this kid in his first year in the league just looks so comfortable. And then you look. around the team and I look at guys like Jackson Lecombe who's a young player in the league, Minchikov, Zellweger, and then obviously Leo Carlson, Cutter-Gotier, you've got young players on this

team who are stepping into big important rules that must be contagious. It must be contagious when you have so many young players and you're seeing guys who are your age with such huge roles and responsibilities on this team, it turns into that thing where you're like, all right, well, I've got to fucking step it up too. Like this isn't, we're not sitting. We're not sitting here at fucking summer camp with a bunch of young kids dicking around we're a good team we've got one of the best goalies in the league we've got these unbelievable vets around us and guys like crider and guys like frank and guys like truba and troy terry obviously you know being one of the big vets on the team gudis a leader and as in the captain role it's it's got to be contagious and it is

it is officially to the point now where i'm like this team you know remember last year i think it was the flyers got off to that hot start even the ducks yeah do a year or two or go you know first 10 games they were they're absolutely flying now i know this is this is 13 14 games but it's like they're beating teams like you said they're not giving up a bunch of goals like they were in the past couple of years i think the duckies are are for real and i i think our call of playoffs is looking good same i'm just as sold on the halves as i am on the ducks think about that yeah like i'm actually we're we're good here you're you are a real problem i I'm pumped. Okay, take me to LA, Dan. Got to take you to it. I do really quick want to just give

stick taps to my son, Macklin Celebrini, tied with Leo Carlson and seventh in the NHON points. Like, I mean, can we talk about these guys? And how many points back, Dan, right? Like, I know they're technically seventh, but I think they're both like three points off the league lead. So, correct. Insane. Out of control. Going to stay in in Southern California, like you said, go to our dear friend really, really special moment. Drew Dowdy last night on the 4th of November

scores a goal, an empty netter, no less. How are you? To become the all-time leading goal score as a defenseman in Los Angeles Kings history. Fucking beautiful stuff.

Texted him after the game and I was like on an empty netter and he was like, I know, dude, what a shit way to do it. And I was like, bro, no. No. Come on. This is phenomenal.

That's so funny. But you love to see, icons like this get these really, really cool record-breaking moments. Really awesome to do it. They get a win at home, which is great and much needed. And it just got me thinking about Dewey and about the player that he is. Drew Dowdy is 33rd all time in the NHL for points with 691 as a defenseman. He will pass the 700 mark this year.

A remarkable achievement. He is seventh among active defensemen behind Burns, Carlson. headman, Letang, John Carlson, and Roman Yossi, all Locke Hall of Famers just like Drew Dowdy is. Dude, funny enough, he's also 33rd and seventh all-time in goals for defensemen. Oh, wow, that's crazy. Yeah. Wild. But remarkable, remarkable company that he is in, to be top 50 all-time for D in the league is out of this world and he's 33 and only climbing.

Dewey's going to play at least a couple more years after this. It got me thinking quickly, you know, already for. for defensemen in the NHL, where do you have Drew Dowdy all time? Dude, it's such an incredible career and God, if they could fucking win one more would be amazing. But I would say there's guys that

are over him. He would say this too of the, the Ors, Bork, coffee, Lidstrom. Like, there's an S tier that's over him. But that tier is not that big. And obviously he's like, kale's best player alive right now.

So, like, he, you know, there's, there's people that he think, that are coming that he thinks are better than him. But if you look at the active guys, dude, headman, headman's all-timer. Like, headman's in a, in a very significant conversation. But after that, like Carlson, Burns, Latang, other John Carlson and Roman Yose, those are the other actors ahead of him over headman. And I'm like, I think Dewey's better than those guys. They have more points than him. But I'm like, I think Dewey's better than all them. I think I would agree CP and you know Eric Carlson one of the most interesting players in the world right yeah correct is just one of the most gifted offensive defensemen in the history of the NHL being shipped around to to what is it three different teams now and just like still doing it at every level he's out of this world he has three Norris trophies I think that might be right looked that up for me 100 point one yeah yep I think I think Eric Carlson has three Norris trophies um but no

No cups for Eric Carlson, no cups for Brent Burns, one cup for John Carlson, three cups for Chris LaTang. Three Norris for Carlson, you're right. Yeah, two cups for Headman, no cups for Yossi, two cups for Drew Doughty, a Norris trophy for Drew Doughty. Like, he is, he is an all-timer, an all-timer. And yeah, man, it's, it's, I don't think it's talked about enough. He's so fun. He's so happy, go lucky, one of the most fun-loving guys in the world. but to become an icon, I mean, he's already been an icon.

But, you know, we talk about that we always do the Mount Rushmore of teams. Drew Dowdy is potentially, if not certainly, on the Mount Rushmore of All Times Kings players already. Oh, sure. He's still got gas left in the tank. It's special stuff. Yeah, no, it's amazing. I'm so pumped for him. And it's easy to forget how prolific he's been because he's just, you know, he's always there and he's around and everybody loves him and he's Dewey.

the man. And then you look at these numbers and I'm like, holy shit, dude. Like, you are literally going to retire as like an all-time, all-time great law call of famer. And I'm like, that is fucking sick, dude. Is there anything better than as a franchise when you draft a guy second overall and then he immediately comes in the league? I think he was like second in Calder voting his rookie year. And it's like he comes in the league. He wins two cups, wins a Norris, becomes the all-time leading score for defensemen in your franchise's history. Like, it's just that is the return on investment. Yeah.

Dream about, baby. It's unreal. All right, that's going to wrap up our rapid fire hot ice. And we're going to get into a very, very exciting topic. We are big outdoor boys. Speaking of outdoor boys, dude, do you know that guy, the outdoor boys YouTube channel? He's that dude who wears glasses.

Oh, yeah, you said this to me, dude running around Alaska. He's like the coolest dude in the world. He dropped off, stopped. doing content and then he just announced that he has three unreleased videos that he's he's dropping on us here in November. Holy shit. But speaking of outdoor boys, we love the outdoor games. We love the Winter Classic.

We are, uh, we are so, so excited to head to Miami for the Winter Classic this year. But we got some stadium series news for 20, February 20th, 2027. We're going to Jerry's World, dude. headbound to Dallas. Can you believe it? Dude, one of the coolest things about the outdoor games that the league has put on, which has been amazing, because it's such a great fan experience for the whole weekend, but is seeing some cool venues, right? Like going to Wrigley. We had been there, but like going to Wrigley Field, the Mariners Ballpark.

I'd never been there. That was awesome. And Jerry's world, love or hate the Cowboys, dude. I was like, holy shit. I've obviously never been in there. It would be on pace, I think, to be the third or second biggest attended hockey game ever behind the big house, obviously. And then I want to say like one of the Nashville one, no, Blue Jack, whatever.

It was one, maybe the Columbus one, yeah. But anyway, big, big 90 plus thousand people, biggest Jumbotron that man has ever made, dude. It stretches from like the 20 to the 20, I think. It's going to be nuts. And obviously, sometimes it's like with the non-hockey venues, it's kind of hard to see the ice sometimes, you know? And remember at Fenway, you're kind of like looking up at the Jumbo Trow back there. No issues here, dude. Biggest TV on earth.

Yeah. There is no bad seed in the house. It's going to be incredible. February 20 at 20. I'm looking at that thing. Yeah. It's phenomenal. Who do you want?

Opponent TDD. Who do you want? I want to get into that. I want this to be, I think I have two obvious. obvious ones. I know that we like a lot in these things to do, you know, you got someone in the West, go get someone in the East. I think that this is very simple. This game for me has got to be either we're going to stay right in the Central. This has got to either be the Colorado Avalanche or in my opinion the goat answer is the Minnesota Wild. Oh, bring the fucking wild. The good one. I didn't think about that. The state that the start were stolen from have that matchup at Jerry's world under the fucking stars come on dude oh I mean like okay that's tremendous um I was going to say wrong by the way is Jerry's world is that

a dome do they have a retractable roof what's the deal they must be retractable actually they do because remember CD Lamb couldn't see the fucking ball he was like I dropped the deep pass because that's right right I was going to say oilers because it's that's been like the bad blood the last couple years, that'd be a good game. Fuck Canada for the stadium series, dude. But I also can't have, we've been so close to going to Dallas,

which we've been dying to do for a couple years, and the Oilers always take it from us. So I was like, I can't have the Oilers take that. I guess they can't stop me going. I'm going, period. But I also just can't have them. Yeah, you also, Chris, can't have a Canadian team beat you in Dallas.

Yeah, Jerry's world. Yeah, Jerry's like, give me the fucking flame. Give me the sharks. Jerry wants to win. Yeah, true. Seriously. Also, yeah. Also, Dan, the abs would be epic for the Rantan thing.

And I now think that the stadium series next year at Jerry's World should be a three-team round Robin, Keynes, Stars, Aves for Rantan. And we settle it once and for all in Jerry's world. So here's what I want from this CP. I genuinely could not be more fired up about this. I mean, dude, I got to say. Gary is possibly the goat commissioner of all time. I genuinely mean that. Like this dude, we saw how good Four Nations was. And then I just feel like every year he does something makes better every year. Better every year. Better every year. Like so legit. And everyone's just like,

oh, that's pretty cool. But no one's ready to be like this. Good job, Gary. Like, you know, boo him at the draft all you want. The dude is just like he still got his finger on the pulse and put in a stadium series game at fucking Jerry's world. Like you said, that Jumbotron, 93,000 people, that place is going to be packed. But here's what I want. Here's what I want, okay? We're making this happen. This is a little news break for people.

We're making this happen with Netters College Puck Drop this season. We're going to be going around and we're going to be doing live pods at stadiums. I'm saying this right now to the NHL next year, 27, stadium series at Jerry's World. We need a Netters live pod outside amidst the tailgate. I'm sick of the world. not understanding how sick these games are. Everyone in the NHL does. All these NHL fans knows how sick these games are.

I want to blow this out. Show the vibe. Show the atmosphere. Exactly. We're going to do a Netters Live pod at Jerry's World in the parking lot, dude. Amidst the craziness, amidst the tailgate, and Dallas people and fans of whoever is chosen,

we're going to blow this thing out. I want this tailgate to be bigger than any NFL tailgate all season long. I want musical. performances. I want parties. I want people bringing setups like you've never seen before. And I want to pack the Netters live show. We're going to get a net. We're going to get a whole ordeal to get all of these fans involved, the win-in prizes because I want this blown out. I want videos. I want content showing out at how sick this tailgate is going to be. And there is no better place than to do it

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with our boys at bed at GM. All right, folks, we are back and we are with our guy, Chris Chelyos, coming back for some Chely Tans Tiers. We're about 13, 14, 15 games into the season, checking in again to do our rankings of all the teams in the league. We've got our special Chelly TAN tiers list, CP.

Let's take us away, start from the top to the bottom. bottom. And Chelly, how we, it looks like the sun's out there, man. How we doing? 50 degrees in Chicago, beautiful. People are on the patios. It's but light weather. Yes, sir. And El Bandito weather. Yes, God, more importantly. Yeah. I've got all of you beat though, Chelly. I'm in Mexico right now. It's 90 degrees and I've got my El Bandito in the freezer right now. So the second log off here. I'm going for it. Good for you. Little on the

Rock's action. Okay, boys, we're starting in the Eastern Conference alphabetical. The first team up is the Boston Bruins. A bit of a roller coaster season for the Bruins this year. They win a bunch, they lose a bunch. What do you guys think? Shockingly third in the Atlantic right now. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, I think everybody wasn't expecting much,

but when you got McAvoy and the pasta man, you know, anything's possible. So they're holding their own for now. They got, you know, pretty good, a legitimate goaltender. And yeah, so I would give them golf. 10. Like, I'm going to go right to it and say golf 10. They're middle of the road. Probably a team that's going to be a wildcard team. So, yeah, I like them. I'm okay with golf 10. I think everyone in Boston will be thrilled with wildcard going into

this season, right? I completely agree. I mean, frankly, I think that they should miss playoffs and get in the Bacenna race, but neither here nor there. But I think golf tan's perfect. I think it's exactly where they are. I love it. I guess I like the way they play. Next one up, the Buffalo Sabres. Sabres, a little bit more fight than people thought, I think, to start the air. I don't think they're good, but not horrible, not as bad as everyone thought. They're above 500? No, I'm not going to buy it yet.

I watched them last night, and they're doing the same thing defensively. You know, just mental lapses, not physical, not hard to play against. They got Thompson, obviously, leading the way there. He's a pillar, but their defense still irks me. They got the size. They just don't have the jam and the competitiveness that they need, and that's been the issue, you know, for years with them, I think. So I don't, I'm not going to say passed out drunk at the pool,

but pretty damn close, right in between there and T-shirt on beach. I would be okay with T-shirt, Dan. What do you think? Do you want pool? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think for the defensive issues, I hear what Shelley's saying. So T-shirt at the beach makes sense for me. T-shirt at the beach, I like it.

Okay, the next team is the Carolina Hurricanes. And Shelley, you killed them last time. People were mad about it. Are you a believer yet, or are they still got question marks for you? I mean, I believe in Rod, Brenda Moore. I believe he's going to make the playoffs again. He's missing his top three, not top three of his four top four defensemen. Crazy.

And I got a chance to watch him last night. And Martin Duck has interviewed. They don't change anything. They all play the same. And that's a reflection of Brendan Moore. And if a coach leads by example, like what I'm meaning in the gym, he goes in the gym,

works harder than the players do. That's the effect this guy has. He has all the respect in the world from his players. They don't cheat. You know, they got some really skilled players in Ajo. I like their team in a sense that they're a playoff team and a structure team

I don't like that they don't go outside the box they don't create offense that every year and year out they can't find the offense but what they're doing right now up to this point you know without those three guys Slavin

Gassasphere and one other defensemen that's you know Yeah, Keandre's out too right yeah Yeah, Kendra Miller, I'm sorry. Yeah, it just says a lot for his coaching ability and, you know, how he keeps everybody accountable and on the same page. They just basically after the first 12 minutes last night, they manhandling the Rangers,

but the Rangers got their own problems at home. Yeah. It's unbelievable. I can't understand that. I know. I know. Okay, as high as Fourth of July? Fourth of July.

I'm with you. I like that. Okay. All right. I love it. Okay. Okay. Now we have the Columbus.

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I love Orinsky. God say. One of my favorite defensive league, just a classy player and does it all. But they'll be battling. You know, right till the end, I think for a playoff spot, I don't think they have enough to do it. Everything's got to go just right for them healthy-wise.

And I still don't see them passing anybody, quite honestly. Yeah. That's what's hard, right? To me, it's like, I still have issues with the goalie situation. There's a lot of the forwards that I need to start going way more than they are. But I do like golf tan. I think they're better than passed out drunk at the pool because they're doing what they got to do. Like if we've got a golf tan on the Bruins, I like a golf tan on the jackets.

Okay, I'm good with that, Dan. Fair enough. Golf tan there. Okay, now the Detroit Redwinks and guys, they look like a playoff team. They look back. Yeah, what do we think? Oh, my God. It fires me up so much.

Yep, great start, but it all revolves around Dylan Larkin. Yes. Honestly, I just keep thinking back when they lost Larks for that 10, 12 games, they lost, I think, 10, 12 games. Yeah, it was crazy. You know, yeah, he makes them go and he's off to another great start. Regardless, you know, the comments he made, you know, about no transactions during the, you know, before the trade deadline last year.

That's all been resolved with him and Steve Eiserman, but, you know, veteran coach of McClellan or D, got some veteran D's siders back playing, you know, how he needs to be playing. Raymond, I like him to Brinkett's slow start, but he's, you know, Kane's been out for the last two weeks too, which doesn't help their power play.

They lost a tough one last night, won nothing. Yeah. But I like them this year again. They're going to be right there again, and I'm going to give him spray tan. Oh, yes, I love that, dude. Detroit climbing. in the ranks, Dan.

I kind of wanted cookout, but we, I like the, I got to calm down. We'll go slow. Yeah, yeah. You can disagree with me, too. No, no, no. Like, listen, I'm, I'm way too horny for the wings, so I would put them in the cookout, I think. But I'll take that.

I'll take Sprayton. They're climbing, like you said, CP. We're just going to steady climb. Yeah, we're slow climbing. A little bit of you, sir. Yes, God. Good point, Kelly, by the way. Yeah.

Sandy. Great young players. Like, yeah, it's exciting. Yeah. Okay. Now we have the Florida Panthers. And guys, I think we have to punish them a little bit here for their recent performances. Yeah.

We had them really high. We had him like Pam Anderson Baywatch last time, but I think the Pampas going to come down. Yeah. Well, wait a little ringleader gets back. Matthew could check. I don't think he's far off. And then as he goes, so does the rest of the team. A little bit of a hangover, I think, you know, three years in the finals now, back to back to back in the finals.

so it's going to take him a little bit to get going. Losing Barkoff, huge loss, but I got every reason to believe, I know the protocol on ACLs now has changed for, you know, but I got every reason to believe he will be back before the playoffs. And Matthew, I don't think is more than a couple a month off, or I'm not quite sure I spoke with him.

He's doing great. Oh, that's awesome. But again, you put him in the lineup. There's a different team, but they play hard. Right now they got that Marshawn running around. He's at the chicken with his head cut off. How good is he been,

until these guys get back? Because the focus has been on him. But yeah, I still like Florida. Mabrowski had a tough one last night. He was swimming. He looks tired, Jelly. He looks tired. They're playing him too much.

Like, it's already, he's played fucking 10 games already. And I'm like, dude, use a rotation, guys. You got this at goalie. You don't need to drown him so fast. Yeah. And I think a good example was a kid last night for Tampa. He's had a great game because Cooper's, you know, knows he's got to manage him.

Yes. Yeah. So I think that Maurice is not, he's a very smart coach. He knows he's going to have to give him to Broolsky. He's trying to ride him now to get through these injuries possibly, you know, and at least until Kachuk gets back. But you got to get him a rest. Yeah.

Yeah. So where do you have? How low do you want to go, Dan? Like, listen, for me. me, it's ironic because passed out drunk at the pool almost sounds right because it's like they're all smoked as yeah, yeah, I like that. And they've got

five guys injured. But I could hear Chelly that that might be too low because like they are fine. But I think it's that or golf tan. Yeah, spray tan between spray tan and the 4th of July cookout. How's that? Okay, let's go let's go spray. I like spray. Yeah, yeah. I like spray. Okay, I can live with spray. I can live with spray because you were right.

When those, when Chuck comes back, things are so different. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, now we have the first place Montreal Canadiens, and man, they are buzzing. Like, they feel in Pam Anderson territory to me. I agree. I love them. Last year, making the playoffs, you know, I don't think they were disappointed if they showed up in the playoffs, played hard, fast team.

Marty St. Louis just lets them play and allows that skill to come out. They've got toughness, everything. Their goaltender, he's playing well. So, yeah, I like them a lot. and I'll put them with the Pam Anderson for sure. Nice. God, good one for the habs. Okay, New Jersey Devils.

Also looking pretty good without even a great Markstrom yet, but they're in first place as well. Do you guys like the Devils? Put them with the fucking abs, dude. They're sick. Wow. What do you think, Kelly? Yeah, fuck yeah.

Agreed. The skill, the speed, they got it going. So in Hughes, healthy, both use. They're very fun team to watch, that's for sure. Bang, Pam Anderson Devils. I think that this is the grown-up year for Jack Hughes. Like, he's, I think that injury snapped something loose in him. He's not fucking around this year.

Yeah, I love that, Dan. Okay, New York Islanders actually been pretty exciting. Shafers, Chely, you like his game? I like him. I didn't like what the Doroff did do for yesterday. Oh, I loved it. I loved it. It was a baptism.

Yeah, I like, I take him on my team, and he literally, you know, A little punch in the face, but it didn't look good, but credited Islanders, they all jumped in there. But Lee, he's not that kind of guy, but he's got to go after him. I don't care. You got to show up in that case. He's the captain. So then he goes and takes a penalty on top of it, Lee, and cost him a goal. So he got, I love him, but you got go to the game for that for not showing up.

And you don't necessarily fight Zadora up or run him. Yeah, yeah, something. And protect that kid. You got to protect him. We have to protect Schaefer at all costs. I still don't think they're that good. I would say golf tan for them. Okay.

Dan, you happy with that? I like Patrick. I think that's perfect. Yeah. They deserve it. They're going to have a decent amount of teams in this little category, and they deserve it. They deserve it. They deserve it.

They deserve it. They're nurturing Schaefer. And I do think the way that they stepped up for them gets them out of past. It was good. Yeah. Here's a team who doesn't deserve it. The New York Rangers shambles. What do we think?

If this team isn't drunk at the pool, I don't know what we're talking. but they might even have a t-shirt on at the beach like the the rangers can't win at home no one's going what i mean what's going on yeah well i'm going to give them a little bit of a benefit that's only because they're playing better defensively and that's solven obviously more accountability now i've got to find a way to you know play defense and create offense which they haven't done um for the life of me i have no answer why they're struggling at home like they are that's i know you know doesn't score garden, you're the home team, there's no better place to play.

Maybe the visiting team is all playing there too. I don't know, but, you know, they are playing better in front of Shosturkin, which is good to see. But again, like last night, Miller, you know, he's a leader, that team, they need to play harder. Both goals, Carolina got, were a result of just guys competing going to the net. and that's not that you know they didn't battle well in front of shasturkin and they did not battle to get in front of a could check off last night that was a bottle you gotta pay the price and i don't think they're built like that especially the forns um they've got some size up there but none of them you know third period obviously solvin must have said something

to get dirty and and create some havoc in front of the other team's net but you know panarin you know he's not the same for whatever reason he had that breakaway and normally he's going to bury that and just it's frustrating but again they are playing better defensively their goals against it's a noticeable difference hopefully they start finding some offense because that's pathetic i'd go pass out the pool then dan because he's right they play a little bit better d than then t-shirt at the beach they do gavrokov's been a huge help there and honestly i'll i'll pump them up from t-shirt at the beach to pass out the pool just because of shistercun the fact that i think he's one and four at home and his numbers are amazing

He's got like a 9-2-4s-8 percentage. They just like, they can't score. It's insane. So passed out of the pool works for me. Next up, we have the Ottawa senators. And my knee-jerk was going to be golf tank because they feel like in the mixer there. But I almost want to go lower because Brady's hurt right now and they've been disappointing, kind of, based on expectations. They've been confusing.

They've been up and down. Yeah, they had that little four-game run, went on a winning streak, and then now they're not playing as well. And again, that's a team with not a lot of depth. Without Brady, again, he's a one-man show too. Let's face it. He, you know, he's a point of game guy. He's, that's grid. Yeah, they need him bad.

And he's not, I don't know how close he is to coming back, but he's not back soon. That might be too late for out. Yeah, he could slip away, right? Go back and battle back. God, agree. Let's go pool. Let's go pool on them also. All right.

Pool it is. That works. Okay, Flyers, Chelly. Flyers, as of right now, in a playoff spot, you buying the flyers? Yep. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yes, year one.

Talk. Yeah. Planned simple. He's fair. He's just gassing up his boys right now, Rod, and now talk. This is ridiculous. Well, talk works out hard, too. Yeah, good point.

He's built like a brick, you know what. And he got that look. To talk. You grab a guy in his office and look at him and that. kid's going to do what he tells them to do. So accountability is the one, and they're playing hard the flyers. They play physical. They're playing like talk coaches. Whatever happened in Vancouver, this whole Miller, yeah, Patterson, that was, if he couldn't get these guys that worked together, no one could. So I just think he's a very good coach. And he gets everybody on the same page,

play the same way, treats everybody differently, but holds them all accountable. Yep. How high you want to go with them? I'm going to go golf tan. How's that? Okay, I like it. I got a feeling they're going to be right there for Wild Card also. They deserve it. I like it. Okay.

Pittsburgh Penguins, also super surprising, but having a great start, Crosby on fire. Yeah, well, guys better stop looking at him and then I'm sure they all want his autograph, but they better start playing against him. But he's got a rope, like a string right now, Cindy. everything he touches. And then Malkin, too. Oh, great point.

He's pushing too. He's got some points. So you get those two guys going, anything's possible. But again, they got to play better defensively. Goaltending key for them. But great start. Unexpected start for sure. Been pretty good.

Can we go as high as spray? I'm playing these guys at the cookout. Cookout. No, no, no. They're at the cookout. For, for, Chelly's right. Like, it's at the end of the day when you have your, what, like 38-year-old and 37-year-old.

Crosby and Malkin being your two best players still, you're in a little bit of, you're flirting with father time here. But at the end of the day, they deserve a gas up from the three of us for how good this start has been and how good those two has been. I think they're at the cookout for sure.

I'm in, Dan. I'm in. Okay, Tampa Bay Lightning. Horrible start. Then 1-5 Street kind of brought it back. Have they righted the ship here? Are they okay? If they get their power play going,

they're going to be right there at the end again. Vasilevsky, like I said, he looked great last night, and Cooper with some rest. I think they're capable, you know, Paul, they were without Paul yesterday. I think he's a really important part of their team. And, you know, they battled Colorado pretty good. And Colorado is firing on all cylinders and end up, you know, being a one goal game. So I like them. I got faith in Coup.

I know I keep going back to the coaches, but. No, it's so important. Yeah, Cooch. Yep, yeah, Cooch, dude. He's fucking all time. You know, just when you think Braden point, you think, maybe he lost a step and then he blows around, you know, Taze and roofs at backhander.

It was unreal. So I think there's still right there. I give them, you know, Pam Anderson for sure. Oh, okay, wow. Chelle. All the way up to Bam? Yep, I love them. I love their team.

Wow. Dude, I love it. I love it. Five game eater. And the new defense. And the guy they got with headman, Moes, JJ,

yeah, yeah. He's 11th pick overall, that kid, and that's the first chance I got to see him play that many minutes.

He's going to be, you know, they lost Sergeats having that deal, but this kid's good. He can move and he moves a puck well and a little gritty, so I like their back end.

I love that. How they got him back? I know, what a gift that was. Insane. That's the spicy take so far of the chantiers and I love it.

Me too. Me too. There you go. All right, now we've got the Toronto Maple Leafs. Haven't quite put it together yet, but they're still a threat, I think. But, man, I still think they're suffering from no Marner. Before you say such great things about Barubei, which I'm sure you're going to do, I think we've got a, I think we've got to pee-wack these guys a little bit.

I know they lost Marner. And listen, they're fourth in the Atlantic, but they're just above 500. I think we need better from the Maple Leafs. So maybe spray? They got skill. No question the skill level. Nealanders off to a great star at Matthews. Like Domi, you got an opportunity with the injury there to step up and get a couple

game winners. Yeah. But at the end of the day, I still think they lack that playoff type grit. Yeah. Play hard. You know, Matthews, I'd like to see him run someone over the first game of the playoffs and go after, you know, their top guy. Take on that guy and challenge him, but that's not in them. And same with Neelander.

You can't, you got to be tough. I mean, they've lost a Florida two, two years at least in a row, like learn from them. You got to match that intensity and that competitiveness, and they don't seem to have that. Yeah. Yeah. I look at Matthew's size. Can you imagine? So true, Dan.

In like early days Ovi and just started fucking running guys over, he'd be the best player in the league. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, it's not in them. And like I said, in the playoffs, you've got to turn into that type of guy. I don't care. And then he's going to be up against the best. and he's got to compete.

It's not just about scoring. That's a total game. And he's another year into it with experience. And maybe, you know, sometimes less is more, less points, less goals, but focus on being more physical, being better defensively. And I love Matthews. But hopefully he'll figure it out, you know, that he's, that's what it's going to take. How low rate going on?

Are we putting them at the pool here? I just, again, I see it they're making the playoffs again. But then again, I just don't see them. going deep in the playoffs unless they can fix that. I'll go pool, Dan. Let's go pool. Fuck it. Let's go pool.

Pool? Yeah. They got to step their shit up. Now we got the Washington Capitals. Too many disappoints by that. Yeah, right. And their defense, in their defense, they've lost to Florida the last couple years too, though. Yeah, right.

Good team. And they went on to win the Cup. Yep. Okay. Washington Capitals, Logan Thompson, unconscious in goal, playing so well, leading the league and everything. But OV pretty slow start here. Not a lot of offensive production.

You worried about the caps, Chelly? I think after last year, how much they overachieve last year, early exit playoffs, but he's got to slow down over here. I know, my God. Or maybe it's just that 900th goal that's trying to get that 900th goal that happens so often. Once he gets 900, then he'll start filling the net. I don't, I wish him the best. But right now, you know, it's just a slow start for him and the team.

but they're still right there. Good veteran team. I love Carlson. He just keep going, Carlson. He's such an important part of that team. Chikrin's great too. Good veteran leadership. Who's that?

Chickren. I think Chikrin was such a good pickup for them. He's fucking unbelievable. Yeah, you got 2D like that. So that's, I mean, that's huge. And Chikrin, he's fun to watch too. What a great talent he is. Insane.

Maybe golf tan for these guys? Yeah, let's give him golf tan. I still respect them. Okay, now we're going to the Western Conference. The first place, Anaheim Ducks. We got to show them some love, guys. How high are the Ducks? Dude, I mean, I'm so high on these guys, and it feels like Montreal, honestly,

because when you look down their stat line, so many players are playing well. To me, Chelle, I'm curious what you say, but they've got to be between 4th of July Cookout and Pam Anderson for me. I don't know if we can go as high as Pam already, but they're good. Yeah, it didn't take long for Rebeek to turn things around. there. So, you know, he's got that Detroit, Steve Eiserman, you know, Tampa thing going. And he quicker, I think, surprisingly, you know, the improvement from last year, then carries right over into this season. They play fast. They play tough. They do, they've got it

all. And you can say what you want about Trubis skate and he still manages to get there and he's not used as much and he's still a very important part of their team. But yeah, they're great, great team to watch. And I'd go back to Philly too. Seems like, you know, talk has maybe taken Zegras's phone away. So, that's working out good. So true. I'm cheering for Zegris.

Yeah, me too. Me too. Fourth of July? No, it's up to chill. I make... I like spray tan. I like... No, let's give him Fourth of July.

Fourth of July. How's that? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Okay. Calgary Flames. We got to be Dracula here, right? Like, you were so right about...

Wolf, Chelly, I think we got to go Dracula. Yep. I'm with you there. Yeah. There's nothing,

no light at the end of the tunnel right now for Calgary. Okay, but now the Blackhawks, the Blackhawks, there is some light at the tunnel here.

I'm excited to see what you guys are. And Chell was right. Chell was right last week as well, dude. He gave him a tire pump and look at them. They're a blast. Yep.

Fun to watch. Definitely the back end. Young. Make their young. offense with mistakes, but they all got good size. Renzel's coming around, Vlasic. Crabier's a nice surprise, Kaiser. So they're definitely on their way up, way tighter.

Knight, I think Knight's their guy for a long time. So in fact, that was a great pickup by the Hawks last year. And that's a great start for this, you know, for them to start improving. Connor, whatever he did, he's picked up a step. No question. You can look at him, you know, when you see him playing soccer, in the hallways. Whatever he did, his legs, his ass,

whatever he, you know, skip world championships for it to focus on, obviously paid off. So I like them. You know, Donato, there's some little guys, hustlers. Nazar was a nice pleasant surprise, Mikhail. So they're definitely on their way up. Are they a playoff team? I don't think they're quite there because I just don't,

I don't know who they're going to pass. Yeah. But so far, so good as far as going the right direction. Let's go pass that at the pool because they're not quite in the wild card mixture yet, but that is a great improvement. Yeah. Okay. The Colorado Avalanche.

Do we have a Cheli Malibu here? Cheli Malibu. Wow. Healthy cheliballi. Just leave it at that. Wow. That power play, I mean, I've never seen a power play where the puck's moving or the guy with the puck's moving as quick as they do. And, you know, they get their speed, you know, it's.

second to none, quite honestly, in the size. And they got it all. They got Banson back there running guys. You know, Taze is not underrated. He's earned his stripes. He's such a good player. Just does everything perfect. And then McCar, he had an off game and he was still great last night.

He's still the best player on the ice. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, you're right. The first, first chely Malibald of the season, I completely agree. Well deserved. Dan, next up, Dallas Stars, I know you want to kill them. How low are you putting the stars, Dan? No, I don't want to kill them.

I love the stars. I am. My knee jerk is spray tan. They're still obviously amazing. They're obviously making the playoffs. They're getting to the second round at least in my opinion. But this team is so goddamn frustrating. Like they pulled off that OT win against Edmonton last night. But it's like the fact that they're just, I think they have a one plus one goal difference. No, they're minus two. Like they're just giving up too many goals. Ottinger doesn't look as good as he should. know. So I think spray tan makes sense for them for me. Chely, how do you feel about that? Yeah. I think, again, they're at a moment where it could go

the wrong way or, you know, matchups. But yeah, they're on that bubble now and maybe they're going to have to get some surprise from some young guys. You know, they need something for sure. And I do like their lineup and the way they play. But again, Adinger's got to be, he should shouldn't have to stand on his head every game in and game out. These guys, they need to support him better. So, yeah, I'm going to put them definitely in the playoffs, no question, but I don't, you know, against Colorado's. Yeah, and tough. You know, Edmonton, even, Edmonton, I still don't like them, a whole lot will get to them, but, uh, yeah, I give them golf tan, is that fair? Yeah, sure. I think they, no, we got to go a little higher. I think, I think, I think Sprayer. I think

Spray tan, makes sense. I'm telling you. Okay, spray. I just, okay, this is, like, yeah, I'm just going on the past and the disappointments and the plas for them. Which is so fair. Which is so fair. Well, Kelly, the oilers are next.

Do you have the oilers below Dallas? I got it right there. Okay. I just feel the same McDavid, dry sidel. Got to play a different way, too. You're not going to outscore. You have to play defense. You have to, you know, you got to be gritty.

I don't it's not about running guys through the boards or or fighting it's just they got it he's matched up against the other team's top line you got to show some jam more jam yep so right there like also spray I think I think I'm good with that Dan are you yeah it's tough like these next three I think we're going to the Kings next like all the Kings are next teams are kind of like in the same category for me you know Edmonton is lower than the Kings and the standings and and I'm with Chella I'm think both these teams have like a lot of frustrations where I just I don't see what's working for them is not sustainable. That's what's scary for me. But I think I think spray or golf is good for Edmonton. And then and then same for Kings, Chelly? Yeah. I mean, the Kings play more routine game.

Okay. They're like, they're more built for playoffs. They should have beat Edmonton last year. I know. You know, Edmond found a way. They had them where they wanted them. and they let it slip away, but I dislike the way they play the Kings. They're built more for the playoffs.

Yes, I actually agree with that. I actually agree. Let's go spray there, too. Unless they play. I don't know to play the oilers. Yeah, that's been a problem too, yeah. Okay, now we have the Minnesota Wild, and they've been bad, guys. They've been bad.

I didn't want this for them. I did guess, but they've been bad. How low? Queen Elizabeth. Queen Elizabeth. Yep. Queen Elizabeth. Completely agree.

Completely agree. Again, another team where I don't see them doing much. Yeah, and then what about this one, too, Shell, the predators? I kind of, I'm worried about them. They might be in the same boat, right? The same. I mean, I think it's a matter of time for Stamcoast wants out. I know.

I agree. To his stomach. Dude, he only had a second goal last night. I was like, oh, God. I don't know what else needs to happen before. It's like, okay, this is not a fit. Like, this doesn't work. Yeah.

Yeah, it feels like it's, where we might be done here. Do we want to go Queen Elizabeth? Or T-shirt at the beach? Let's give them T-shirt out of respect because they got Yossi and the goalie. Okay, next one is the San Jose Sharks. Not good still.

Not horrible, but not good. Yeah, I think the Hawks are a little bit ahead of them. Me too, me too. Honestly. But not a playoff team. for sure they're going to be getting better. Yeah, celebrating. Yeah, he's a stud.

But not even close yet to the, yeah, Queen Elizabeth Dan or too low? I'd give them T-shirt. I give it a, listen, they started off brutal. Yeah, they did. And like we said, like they beat, who did they just beat Chris, the fucking, the Jets?

Did they just beat the, or was it? Oh, the Aves. They beat the Aves. They beat the Aves. They beat the Aves. beating good teams. They beat Colorado. It's like...

I'll give them T-shirt. Yeah, I'll give them T-shirt just because, yeah, not experienced team, but they have shows, to show signs. Yeah, I like that. How they can play.

Okay, the Seattle Cracking, been very exciting. Slowed down a little bit, but man, they're right in the mixer. Yeah, they're back to where they were a couple years ago.

Yeah. A lot of energy, fast team, playing the same way, just tenacious, somewhat like Utah, like very similar. in that sense.

Not Utah's got Keller, but yeah, they work hard. And, you know, I like them. It's a hard place to pay over there. In Seattle, I think they have a good thing going at home. They'll be right there again, let's say, golf tan. Delftan. I like it. That's what I was going to say, too. I love that.

Okay, the St. Louis Blues, boys, fuck. This might be Queen Elizabeth for me. You want Dracula? Oh, my God. Get the teeth out. To me, it's because, like, we're making statements with these tears. Like, the blues have no business being this bad. I think the boys are so soft. I have no idea what they're doing out there.

I think it has to be Dracula. Like, they're crazy. Yeah. I haven't seen them enough after last year what happened to them. I know. It looks like that's affected them. Agreed. Losing like they did.

But, yeah, but I still, Montgomery, like, again, I go back to the coaches. He's such a good coach. So good. I don't understand what's going on there. I still see them. Look what they did last year, though. They went on that run towards the end again, too.

So I see no reason why they can't get back on track and get back to where they were, you know, towards the end of the season last year. Yeah, we'll remain hopeful. Next one, Utah Man. Passed out. Is that okay? Oh, okay. Passed out? Or no, Dan, you don't want to go that high in the blues.

I mean, listen, these are Chelly's tears. I think we could meet in the middle because I want Count Dracula but maybe I'm being too harsh so Queen Elizabeth could work for that. Yeah, it's too early to give up on them just yet. They've got a good group of players there.

Okay, now the Utah mammoth who looked fucking incredible. Are they Pam Anderson or are they 4th of July? I think 4th of July for me. I like what Chelly was saying about Seattle. And what do we give Seattle? Golf tan? Yeah, yeah. Because I could go even higher for Seattle there.

So, like, Fourth of July, spray tan sounds right for Utah. I mean, this team's good. This seems really good. I think their offense is electric. So I like pretty high for them. What do you think, Joe? Yeah, I love watching them play. I love watching Keller and that big goal yesterday.

Yeah, that was sick. So sick. And he's not afraid either. He goes to, he's not a big kid, but he goes to the hard spots and plays hard. And so does their whole team. They're just fun to watch. Okay, Vancouver. Is it trochecked?

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he's having a great year. Not Trochev. Who's the other? Yeah. Dylan Gildler. No, no. Right-handed guy.

A banner here. He's a free. Cooley? No, keep going right hand. Maybe a Michigan kid. I'll get over. It'll come to me. Go ahead.

Move on. The Vancouver Canucks is next, and I'm going to check who you mean. Vancouver Canucks not a good. Paturca or Schmaltz maybe? I don't know. I'm stuck on me. Schmaltz. Oh, Schmaltz.

Yeah. Schmaltz. Yeah. He's out of control. Yeah. He's been unreal. Yeah. Always.

Tim and he's having a great start. Vancouver Canucks. Bottom half? I'm giving him Count Dracula just because I hate everything about Vancouver. How's that? That's too personal. I won't love I won't do that. No, we're doing it. We're doing it.

We're doing it. I love it. I love it. There's no love loss for me and the Vancouver people. But yeah, I mean, what happened with Todd, the fact he couldn't get Patterson and Miller to get along. and the falling out there.

Yeah, I mean, I love Hughes, obviously. Yeah, God, so good. Yeah. T-shirt at the beach could be good, though, because I'm with you, Chell. Like, they're 500, and they're just like, even the games they win, I'm a little bit like, what are we even doing here?

Yeah. I don't think they belong in playoffs, so I could put a t-shirt on them at the beach, for sure. Yeah, it's just the kind of running gun, and, you know, no defense or no physicality. So, yeah, I don't, I'm not a fan of them. I give them a t-shirt. Okay, t-shirt at the beach.

And then two good ones left. Vegas Golden Knights first. I just wish Stone would stay healthy because he's the, he makes the difference. Jesus. I know. And he just can't stay healthy, the poor guy. But I'm going to give them the Pam Anderson for sure. Okay, I thought you might.

They're right there. They're right there. For the West for sure. Yeah. I like that. And then last one. Winnipeg Jets. Oh, Ico's been incredible, dude.

Oh, my God. Yeah. What a start he's had. You know, I'd love to see that after what he went through in Buffalo and then, you know, just sticking it to everybody in Vegas. God, good for him. So that's good to see a story like that. And Winnipeg, I'm cheering for him because of Tays and Tays alone.

Me too. The fact that they're doing so well and he's just, you know, he's playing 15, 16 minutes. There's been an injury, I think, to love. Lowry, so he's got a little more opportunity, but yeah, from goaltending to their forwards, they got a really good team. Yes, well-rounded, well-rounded team. Yeah, they're a playoff team. You're right, Chelle.

It's like, hella bucks great. Again, Morrissey's been amazing on the blue line, and Shifley is one of the best players in the league, like he's at the top of the league leaders and points. Like, they look fantastic. Yeah, they're a great team. to watch. Are they Pam? I love them.

Yeah. Are they as good as Pam or are they Fourth of July? You got to, I got to go. I'm going Pam Anderson. Wow, let's go. That's right. It could be either one of those, Pam Anderson or Fourth of July Cookout.

It could be either one of those. They're solid team. To see who they match up against in the playoffs, that's all. Yep, exactly right. And to see how Hellie performs in the playoffs too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is another issue of the tan,

tears with our friend Chris Jellio's epic list boys. I'm fired up about this one. Yeah, really well done. Really well done. I can't wait to see people's reaction to Tampa getting that boost. But I think they'll be on to something. They just find a way to get these guys like Paul, getting Yanni Gord back who are, you know,

every bit as important as their top guys. Like, they just find that depth and guys to fill in those roles. And, you know, I love Hegel, Sorrelli. Like, they just play the game. And when it, you know, when it gets physical, playoff, you saw what happened in the exhibition games with Florida and Tampa, you know, they're ready to, they stand up to everybody physically. Exactly right. I love it. Amazing stuff.

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How will you see anything? It will be challenging to see the lines, to see the future. as we make our bets here on the show on Professor Bucklein. Sir Christopher, please, take us through last week and our Mega Palais Recap. How did we do? I believe young Sean did quite well. You will not believe what has transpired here at the Academy. Last Saturday 13 games, the Mega Parlay recap is as follows.

Bruins, yes. Penn's no Penns no Shames Preds Preds yes Preds yes Sharks

Sharks Sharks over avs yes Sharks Sharks Over a choice Lot of people

in the carvets Very upset about that pick Very upset indeed Sharks over avs yes Panthers yes Caps No sends

No Flyers No Tough stretch there Jackets, yes, wild, yes. Kings, surprising. No. Oilers, yes, rags on the road.

Yes, like always. Eight and five. Eight in five for the young lads. All things considered gentlemen not bad at all. Going eight and five is an improvement from the week before. And as we say, we can always do worse. We can always do worse. And the real takeaway from last Saturday,

mega parlay. The man from Ireland went four and one. Only missing sends losing four three to the habs in O.T. Where the habs tied it with two minutes left.

Our young Irish fellow... Boyd one shocks over abs is iconic. Our young Irish fellow just might have the gift of foresight when it comes to hockey lines truly, truly brilliant stuff. You love to see it.

And you also love to see... Yes, this is true. He is being educated by the greatest professors in all of the Buckline. It's really, really special. What is also special is the Friday fade. Two weeks in a row. Last week, we had our ducklings of Anaheim, surprising everyone in a victory over the Detroit Red Wings,

the scorching hot Detroit Red Wings. Five-two to the Quackers. And the Friday Fayeux. It has hit two weeks in a row. It's becoming automatic. And now, Christopher, read us our Friday evening games that we will pick our fade for. Daniel, there are four games this coming Friday, and we will sniff out the one that is so positive that it must go the other way. This Friday, rags at wings, wild at islanders, hawks at flames, hawks at flames, Jets at Sharks, there, there appears to be one very clear.

Well, Daniel, very, very clear. Do you recall the first Friday fade? I'm genuinely asking, I cannot remember. I haven't looked. I believe it was the very matchup between the Sharks on Jets. That was my theory as well. And when on paper, on paper, of course, the Jets could never lose at the Sharks. They could never lose that game.

But because they did, or because they didn't the last time, it makes me less sure that it's a Friday fade this time. I might be too in the weeds here, but since it happened already, I didn't know how to react. I do fear that for the sake of variety, which is the spice of life, we can't do a Friday fade on the same matchup. And I do believe there are too many facts. in choosing those two teams yet again. So I will say, for me, I think the first two matchups look very juicy for a Friday fade.

I like taking the New York Rangers over the Red Wings, although we did fade the wings last week. And I would say, Rangers on the road is quite positive. and the point of the fade is when you are sure, when you are positive, you go the other way. And the Rangers on the road is positive. So going the other way, going to the fade to the ranges would be counterintuitive to the fade itself. So, Christopher, I love that you're getting worked up. And I also love your process of elimination. I think that this all leads to one choice.

The Friday fade shall be fading the islanders at home and taking the struggling Minnesota. to Wild to defeat them on Long Island. We will be taking the Wild. Because the Wild, as we have proven here on this very program, are 6-7. And they will remain 6-7, so they will lose. And the Islanders, the Islanders at home with Schaefer must win. So, of course, we go the other way and we fail and we take the wild money line. Well done, sir. Now we will move on to our Saturday Selly where we pick an anytime goal scorer we just missed last week. The Devils had an emphatic win for one over the kings of Los Angeles, but our young man Jack, Jack Hughes, was held pointless for the first time.

Pointless! Unbelievable! We need to get back on the Saturday Selly train, yet again selecting correctly in our anytime goal score. Christopher, who do you like? Professor, I will add that you topped me into a road. player last Saturday. We insist on home players for Saturdaysellies, and you talked me into a road player, and he went

pointless. So, my friend, I will say poo-poo to you and the finger-pointing. You are constantly finger-pointing in this segment, and I would ask you to be more certain and emphatic in your choices if you feel so strongly about them that you're then going to blame me for your shortcomings. How dare you, sir? How dare you? How dare you? Right. So, players, I had my spectacles on. Seth Jarvis, friend of the program, at home versus the sabers. We love that one. Dorothea at home versus the ducks. Some of us are financially invested in Dorofiev winning the rocket.

And it would help any time he scores helps. many people are beginning to call him scoraphiaf. That's how much he is lighting the lamp. How did I not get there? Scoraphiav. Scoraphiav at home versus the ducklings, though. The ducklings, they are quite good.

They're quite good. But what a Pacific matchup we have there, Daniel. And then what a central matchup we have here. I also like the Lion of Drysytle to score home versus the aves. Because I do believe in a game of that magnitude, he must show up, possibly on the power play. For the sake of putting an end to your insufferable winging, I'm only going to share my one that is a home game. We will choose an anytime goal scorer or someone who is at home. That for me was also in Vegas.

Our dear friend, Mr. Jack Eichl, to score at home against the ducks. So we have Seth Jarvis against the Sabres, score of fear against the ducks, Leon Drysidal against the avalanche, and Jack Eichel against the ducks. There are a lot of young men who are scoring at will, it seems. Does any jump immediately to your mind, sir? The double Vegas scares me, to be honest with you.

I don't know. I wish we had been, since we went two Vegas directions, I fear we will not meet in the net in that game. So I almost want to rule them out. and then focus on Leon or Jarvis. Then I think we have no choice but to go with a friend of the program, Mr. Seth Jarvis. Have we taken Seth before?

We have not. We flirted with him and he scored every time we didn't take him. So we will fuck him up. Then I believe on Saturday. But we must try. We must try. Sir, you are forward indeed. I was going to say we were put on lipstick and give him a big wet,

kiss but you went right to uh you went right to the intercourse my friend uh you love to see it we will take set javas anytime goal scorer at home against the sabers for our saturday sally now it is time to bring in another man with a degree as always seducta locks shall join us for the sunday hat-trick parley once again we are joined by sir doctor locks last week he came tantalox classingly close. Yet again, he had the Flyers money line under six and a half and Bobby Brink two plus shots. He only got the money line wrong. Bobby shot it twice. The game finished two ones, so the underachieved. But it was the flames who were victorious. We are trying to finish that third leg. Doctor. What? And I will add, I will add, he predicted the score again. He said it would be two one and he just got the order wrong. So we are right there. It's crazy. We're going to. We're getting all the tough parts right and all the wrong like the easiest part which would be the money line or at least should be the easiest part of the parlay wrong so back to back times we got fucked by the who's the new team again who did we get fucked by the the mammoth the mammoth

yeah yeah gosh i sound like a bot uh we got fucked by the mammoth two weeks ago and then last week We got fucked in Philadelphia against the flames. And now the easiest part. This is now the third week in a row. Let's just get the team right. Let's just get the team right. And even though this is kind of frisky, it's kind of sketchy. So we're going to Pittsburgh.

We're going to Pittsburgh. We have a three leg, same game parlay, once more. You know, it's a hell of a slate. I was looking at the Stars game because I was like, oh, the Stars should win, but every time that we've thought that, so we had to do a little bit more deep diving. We're not beating around the bush anymore. We're not beating around the bush.

So we're going to Pittsburgh, Kings, penguins. For leg number one, let's get the money line out of the way. This might fuck us, but the penguins just beat the Kings in L.A. 4 to 2. Yes. So now I think we get evened up on the series. leg number one, let's go Kings money line.

I know you guys should be a fan of that one. I love a season split, Dan. Kings have been wonderful on the road. Fantastic pick. So leg number one, King's Money Line to bounce back against the penguins but we're in Pittsburgh. A little sketchy there,

but I do like that. And then are we doing our typical under? So we've gone under the last two weeks. gosh, it's so hard for me to take an over in any sport. I never like taking it over. If I'm going to take anything on the total, it's always under. However, I think we roll over. Let's roll over.

I could see this game being a little 3-3-O-T. Delightful. I could see this game being 3-3-O-T, and then the king's getting the job done in overtime to make it a four three ball game, Kings win four three in O.T. There's going to be a little barn burner of a match. I could see some late third period antics to send it. Fireworks, yes.

To send it to O.T. We already saw a really good game between these two ball clubs. So let's go over five and a half goals for leg number two. Okay. Do we want six and a half because four three would cover that? No, no, no, no, no. trust just in case we get four two like we did in LA but it's flipped reverse Kings. Over five and a half third leg, we must be going Kings shots.

We're going to go Sidney Crosby for a point. So whether that be a goal or an assist, that should definitely juice up the odds of this parlay. Leg number three said the kid to record one point on the stat sheet out of those three. penguin goals that we are predicting. So, at home, penguins at home, will lose to the Kings to even the season series. We will go over five and a half and Sydney Crosby Point completes the Sunday Hattrick Palais. Daniel, how do you feel? I say bully for the doctor, my friend.

And I also say bully, bully, bully, bully, believe, believe, believe, believe. Incredible work, Dr. Locke's, thank you so much. So, so to recap, Kings, Money Line, over five and a half goals, Sidney Crosby for a point Put that in your pipe A little Sunday magic For a little hat trick Parlay

And see you on the other side Yep, come on That's right Brilliant Thank you, thank you Good Doctor We will We have been so close on those

So close with the doctor And this one This one feels ripe Ripe for the picking Now we will close out With the Saturday Mega Parley For this week

Gentlemen We have 13 more games this could be the one. Doesn't it feel so? This could be the one. I feel quite confident. So, we start. I think, Daniel, normally you're here,

so it would be starting with you. Are you ready? I am indeed. Penns at Devils. Christopher, sends at flyers. Sends. Sean, stars at Preds. Pritz.

Daniel, Bruins at Leifes. Bruins, I believe that the curse shall continue. I love that. Christopher Mammoth at Habs? What a battle that is. I will go Mammoth. Sean, Caps at Borts. Capitals.

Capitals. Daniel, Isles at Rags, New York Battle. I will take the Islanders. Yes, Daniel, yes. Christopher Sabers. At Cains, we are going Cains and a Java's multiple goal performance. We cannot wait to see that. Sean Spunk at Blues.

Spunk. Yes, I knew he would go spunk this week. I knew he asked about it. He asked about it last week. I knew he would go spunk. Daniel, abs at oil. I will take the Mountain Men in Colorado, please. Yes, sir. Christopher Jackets at Canucks.

We will go Jackets. Sean Ducks at Knights. Ah, got to go knights Got to go knights And Daniel finish us off Panthers at Sharks I will take the Sharks The Panthers struggling on the road this season

Sharkis are finding their way We love that pick Daniel Did Daniel did you start with pens I in fact selected the devils Devils devils Devils Sends Preads Bruins

Mammoth Caps Isles Cains Spunk Avs jackets, nights, shocks. Riches to all. Absolutely. Absolutely brilliant.

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we're calling Surfside tipsy takes brought to you by Surfside the best ready to drink cocktail in the game. CPs decked out in all the gear. Maybe you get a little tipsy, maybe you get a little comfortable and you start sharing some takes. That is what I want to do with the boys right now. I've got a list of takes of opinions that I have that I think might be wrong. And I'm going to start maybe a little mild here. But I want to be clear. This is not for content. This is a real take. of things, this is a list of things that I genuinely and passionately believe in. And this is the first one out the gate. Okay, this is a two-for to start us. Okay. This is a two-fer, but they're related. You're going to see they're related. This is my take. We're going to discuss amongst the boys. My take is this. I think scratchy towels are infinitely better than soft, fluffy towels. And frankly, I don't think it's close. Your thoughts, boys.

Sean, what do I do with this? It's like a masochism thing. That's the only explanation I can think of. Hold on. Hear me out. Hear me out. I know when you get to, you know, when you buy a new towel and it's like nice and soft and fluffy, like, when your hands, it feels so good and this and that. But when you go to dry off, which is what the towel is for, I feel like these soft.

soft fluffy towels don't even dry you off. They just spread the water around your body. Like, it never fully absorbs the water. I want a scratchy towel because I feel like it's actually drying my body off. I think you're, you're like, you're describing exfoliating in a way. A soft towel, I feel like, is a sponge. A soft towel becomes so waterlogged that I'm like, I can barely lift a thing, it's taken so much water off me, where a hard towel is spreading the water around. And you're getting exfoliation, but you're insane.

Yeah, you're just scraping the water off and your dead skin. You're not actually, like, I agree. It's like more of a sponge when it's soft. You have like more fibers to like soak up the water. I think you're scientifically wrong on this. Okay, listen, that might be true, but that, erroneous, whether I'm scientifically incorrect.

But you, I think, Chris, you just defended my point because if you get a sponge, think about a sponge. There's a big mess and you start wiping it up with that sponge. That sponge is then soaked. And if you wipe that sponge on something, there will be a streak of water. That's my issue.

It's like, I want to be dry. I want to be dry out of the shower. Dude, dad, I just realized how fucking much of a pig person you are. Literally, sponges have a soft side and a hard side and a scrappy side. And you only use the scrape side to clean when there's active fucking gunk

and shit on a dish. Like, you, I'd have to rub. Like, I think you get out of the shower with fucking shit all over you still. There's, like, dirt and grass stains, and you need a hard towel to, like, chip away the grime on your body. Instead of just using a fucking soft sponge and cleaning yourself with soap. Dan is so dirty that he has to use... I'm, like, a brillo pad at this point? Would a brilopad be better than a towel at all?

Like, we just lean into that. I can't... I am devastated right now by the... the rough side of the sponge analogy because that that is kind of what i'm realizing is that's what you're pitching but dude i i stand by it i these soft fluffy towels they just don't do the trick for me but here here's the two for and i based on your response on the towel thing i think this is going to get a lot worse for me i feel the same way to an extent let me clarify about toilet paper i think oh my god dude.

I think toilet. Are you a one-ply guy? Are you a one-ply guy? No, no, no. Are you a fucking, are you a one-ply poor person, dude? That's why I said, I'm clarifying. Wait, you're wiping your ass with the scratchy towels, too? Is that what you're saying?

I am saying, Sean. I prefer a little tougher, a little tougher. Like this. Definitely a masochist. Definitely a masochist. You prefer a little tougher. Maybe try, Brillopad for that too.

This is going poorly for me. But I'm telling you, this like the, the Charmin crazy, like, you know, what is it? They're like 20 times the sheets. And then it's literally like wiping your butt with a handful of cotton balls. And I'm just like, that's another one where I'm like, it's just smearing the poop around. It's just, it's not, it's too soft. There is such a thing as too soft toilet paper. I'm telling you.

You don't like the bear. You don't like the Charbon soft bear. Wiping his bum. He's getting T.P. all over his bum. Yeah. And I feel like they've got it backwards. In all those commercials, when it's not soft enough, it's like leaving flakes of the toilet paper in his butt hole.

But the reality is when you've got these fucking cotton ball toilet papers, you're just, you're leaving cotton dust in your crap. You're actually right there. More chances to leave. More chances to leave flakes the softer you go. You're actually right there. That is true. It's like you take a woman's like powder brush and you, explain. loaded in your butthole. It's insanity.

Which I'm sure you know what that's like, but the, do you fold or crumple your toilet paper? I think technique might be a big, big part of this. That's a great, great question, Sean. And I'm going to blow your mind here. I do both. I do a crump, I do a crumple in the hand as like a little handle.

Like imagine, imagine a handle on a, uh, brillo brush. You're an in a woman. makeup thing. So I do a crumple in the hand as like a handle and then I kind of delicately fold so I have a nice even surface to wipe the butt with.

How much time do you have when you put? He's in there, yeah, John, never enough. Never enough. I have to admit that I was always a crumple guy and then people were like, you don't fold? And I was like, oh, I didn't even realize that was a thing. And I think by creature of habit, I still crumple more off. I fold when

I think about it now. But I, but I, but my instincts, my primal instincts are crumple. So I kind of do both, but not simultaneously. You do both simultaneously. I do both varying shits. What do you do, Sean? Yeah. I know, I'm a, I'm an agent of order. I got cold. I can't. It's too much chaos and a crumple. So, like, that's how you end up with people who prefer like Brillopad toilet paper is that they don't know how to do the technique properly. Do you wrap it around once or twice? Good to go. Smart.

Do you guys sit or stand? I'm a leaner. I lean. Yeah, yeah. Because I didn't even know standing was a thing. And then I took to people and they were like, I stand up. And I was like, that is fucking. Yeah, I stand up, walk around, check my emails.

You know, I don't have all the time that Dan has. I got things to do. Yeah, yeah. Gotta move, got to move. Get a little air flow. going in there. God, that's great.

I'm telling you that too soft is a thing. Too soft is a thing in both towels and toilet paper. And I stand by it. Stand by everywhere. So you like it hard on your bum. And I think that speaks volumes about a lot of your character. Yeah, I think what we've learned here is I like it rough in the crack.

And, you know, that's me. I've got to embrace it. Dude, this is, what a scorcher out the gate here, because this is insane. And Dan, correct me if I'm wrong, but you like a wet wipe, and do you want that to be scratchy too? Scratchy and wet is not a good combo, no.

Like, what the fuck? So soft there and then... Do you dry after the wet wipe or do you go around with swamp, but afterwards? You got to do one final dry pass. And that's another one, guys, where if you use a wet wipe and then a too soft piece of toilet paper,

you've got powder. you've got powder flakes in your butt. You need it to be a little scratchy. I think you might be on something with this, actually. I think maybe like newspaper might be like the perfect material for it. And it's like economically better too. Now we're saving money. Now we're saving money.

Dad, you guys business you could start dead. Like sandpaper TP and then and then you and all the freaks like you buy it. Yeah. Very niche. And I'll be very like real about it too. Like you know, like I'm not pulling any punches with the branding. It's going to be like rough stuff toilet paper is. it's going to be called. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That was a, that's an all-time surfside tipsy take, Dan. Thank you so much.

That was a belter. Belter of a surfside tipsy take. Let's roll that right into wrapping up the episode with our nice game here. We're going to head to a trivia factorial. That's right, Chris, right? Yeah, sure is. Good job, Dan. All right. So folks, I always struggle with the names. What we do here is I've got a player in mind and I'm going to be giving CP clues. First one, is going to be harder and then they get progressively easier, but then the point totals go down. It's going to start at 10 points, go to 8, 6, 4, and 2. And Chris, someone DMed us the other day that was like, dude, these games are so fun, but you guys have no stakes. You need to start keeping a tally of what points that you guys have. And there's like a bet at the end of the season. I think that person is absolutely right. Thank you for the tip.

So we're officially going to start logging points here. You are getting your first one. I have a player in mind. Are you ready for your first question worth 10 points? Yes, and I suck at this game, so I can't believe we're starting now after I actually did pretty good last time. Go. You did do well. First question. In his first three years in the NHL, this player won the Calder, came second in the Art Ross and Hart, only then to win the Art Ross and the Stanley Cup and Con Smyth. Jesus Christ. In his first three years, won the Calder second in Art Ross and Heart. and then won the Art Ross, the cup, and Consmite. And Con Smyth. Holy hell.

Last time I did this to you, you accused me of tricking you, even though I wasn't tricking you at all. And now I feel as though in retaliation you were trying to trick me. And that is uncalled for because I didn't do anything to you. I can neither confirm nor deny. And you are fucking me. Because there's someone that I'm like, oh, that could be this person. But getting it on 10 is

unprecedented and should be impossible, unless you're literally best friends with the person and you know deep, dark secrets about them. So I refuse to guess because of your tricksy hobbit nature. Continue. Sounds to me like you don't know the answer. I'm going to be pissed if I was right, but there's no way. Clue number two, worth eight points. In his consmite winning season,

his 36 points were the most points in a single playoff run since Wayne Gretzky scored 40 in 1993. And the only active player to have more points in a single playoff run is Connor McDavid with 42 in the 23-24 season. Yeah, because that broke the record, right? And that's when he, did that say that when he won Konsmite as a loser? I think it is. Correct. So this dude basically had the most points since Gretzky. That's the new clue

That is correct 36 First three years One rookie of the year He's since won in Art Ross And a cup And a consmithe Second in Art Ross

All right hold on Hold on hold on Hold the phone Hold the phone as they say Okay so I don't know the answer So we're moving on Yep we're moving on We're moving on to clue number three worth six points, and I am going to say to you, Christopher, if you don't get it on this one, you are a plug.

I always go down to like two, dude. Like, I'm so bad at it. You're going to get it on this one. Clue number three, after a dispute with Russia that led to his passport being seized by his former team, having to invoke a law allowing him to cancel his contract with his former team and dealing with an antitrust lawsuit filed against the NHL. This player was finally allowed to make his debut in the NHL where he set a modern day record scoring in each of his first six career games, including his first career goal against Martan Brodor. That is sick. He's Russian.

How do I not know the passport thing? This player has like, you know, like, you know, you know, know it, but then you forget it. That this happened. How do I not know this? And most impressive careers in NHL history. It's unbelievable. He has an Art Ross, a cup.

Does that mean he has one cup or you're saying he could have more? You don't have to answer how many, but you just, I don't know if that clue means he's won the cup once. So I do have to answer if he's won the cup once or one more. That feels like an extra clue. Oh, I see. In his first three years, he won the cup once. I get it. Never mind.

Anything could have happened after that, but that first clue was just about his first three years. Potentially, it is. 36 points. Fuck. I'm giving you 10 seconds to answer or move on to. Okay, move on. I think I know it, but move on. You are so bad at this game.

You're such a bum, dude. I can get zero when we start. Yes, you can. You can. You can have some honor. You absolutely bomb. Okay, okay, okay, okay, fair enough. No one's ever gotten a zero.

It's about time, but it's fucking me. You're going to go for it. Yeah, fuck it. My guess is... I can't remember if he wanted to cons my... My guess is... Evgeny Malkin. Clue number four?

This player is number three amongst active players on the all-time scoring list in NHL history and is also number three on the all-time scoring list of his respective team, the only team he's ever played for.

And clue number five, only once have two Russian players gone first and second overall in the NHL draft. This happened in 2004 when this player was drafted second right after Alexander. Alex Olmachkin. Evgeny Malkin. Wow, dude. How do I forget that passport story? That's crazy.

It showed true, true heroism in going forward on six. And I'm proud to say you were awarded six points. Congratulations. And may God have mercy on your soul. He had 36 points. Gino right there. Bang. You love to see it.

Dude. Dude. Do you start to his career? I forgot all that. That's actually wild. He legitimately might. And I include Sid in this because people forget in that second year of Gino. Sid got really hurt and missed a lot of time.

Gino might have one of the best starts to a career in NHL history. Like his first three years, he was just out of control. One of Calder was second in Art Ross. and Hart voting just behind a hedgekin. And then the next year he won Art Ross and the cup and Consmite. And went to the cup the year before that. You know, and they lost in the tilt to the wicks. Holy hell, dude.

That's fucking awesome. Unbelievable, unbelievable run from McGennymole. He might be better than Cooch, Dan. He might be better than Cooch. If I may say so myself, unbelievable episode. That was a blast covering all the goods. producer Sean in his fucking bag today. Just you love to see it.

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