Empty Netters Podcast - The Golden Knights Add Marner, Lose Pietrangelo, and Retool to Get Back To The Cup w/ Dave Goucher

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Dave Goucher, the voice of the Vegas Golden Knights, stops by to chat about the Knights adding Mitch Marner and losing Alex Pietrangelo to injury. Plus, his journey from BU, to Wheeling, to Providence, to Boston, to Vegas. This guy wins a championship everywhere he goes! And there might be something magical about a 12 year gap. Plus the guys hand out their movie awards for the new horror movie Weapons! Thank you to our sponsors BetMGM and MUG for making this episode possible! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ice is ready and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I am your host, Dan Powers, and with me is a man who believed in Santa Claus until the sixth grade. And I still think he might have a little bit of belief left in him, Chris Powers. How could you not, Dan? As always. How could you not? How could you not? I wake up their presents out of the tree. Who brought them? Who brought those there? Who brought them?

You're itching for presents. You're itching for Santa. And I'll tell you what, CP. We're itching for hockey talk. We're itching for some hockey talk. It's been a fun summer. We're doing a lot of stuff. We got the movie reviews. We got guests.

We got this and that. But we needed some hockey talks that we brought in a fucking ringer. We brought in the ringer. Dave Gosher. Unbelievable man. The voice of the Boston Bruins for a while. And now the voice and face of the Vegas Golden Knights. And listen, the Vegas Golden Knights have some things cooking.

You say it. I can't remember if you say it in the recording, but it's funny to hear him. It was crazy. Just talking. not being. It's absolutely crazy. I'm like, oh my God, you sound amazing. I'm like, good Lord, his voice is incredible.

So I want to grace you all with, I mean, listen, guys, don't worry. This is just some hockey talk. This is hardly an interview. We talk about Gosch's, I mean, he's got an amazing career, but we're just chopping shit up, talking about hockey, emphasis on Vegas because they got Mitch Marner and they are cooking with gas. God, biggest move of the summer. So let's kick it to Dave Gosher and enjoy this hockey talk. All right.

Well, we are being joined by a Pawtucket native, a BU grad where he also began his broadcasting career calling the beanpot hockey east championship and the 1993 frozen four he was on the providence bruin's radio call when they won the caller cup in 99 on the bruin's play by play when they won the cup in 2011 currently the tv play by play voice for the vegas golden nights who of course won the club in twenty twenty three he is also called m lb playoffs and a super bowl which tom brady won of course he was named the associate press of new england's top radio play by play in o three oh six and oh seven and he won the Associated Press Best Sports Broadcaster award in 2006. Dave Gosher, welcome to the Empty Netters podcast.

Hi, boys. I just, if I hear all that crap, I just think I'm getting old. That's all, you know. Older by the day. That is a humble man right there. Because I hear that shit. And I'm like, put this guy in the Hall of Fame yesterday. Good Lord.

And Dan, we've done, what is this? Like, episode 217. That's one of the longest distinguished intro that we've ever done. I also, like, it's so. funny go i mean you your i still today will just in my head hear your call when the bruin stormed back and beat trano in game seven and hearing the bursar on call just like echoes in my brain consistently and it was then when you went to vegas and they won where i was like this man is a golden ticket dude yeah you need to be signed by a new team every year because you just bring ships we got providence

we got boston we got Vegas this is crazy Well, the funny part is that the bird's around thing, I just think I'm yelling like a banshee, like just a crazy person. Yeah, but I was shocked they won. Of course. Yeah. You know, it's also like, I always love that story. I don't know if you've heard it. It's a Joe Buck story where he was calling the Mark McGuire 70 or whatever was, a 60-second home run, whatever.

And he was planning something, planning it. And then when it happened, McGuire missed first when he rounded first. when he rounded first base. And then he said something like, touch first, Mark, you're the new home run champion. He was like, after that, I never tried to plan something. And I think that is such a great lesson because it's like what you just said.

It's like the genuine reaction are always the best ones. Yeah, you know what? It's funny, guys. I'm not a big fan of kind of overthinking it. And that one, there was no time to, to be honest with it, because they were down four to one with ten minutes left. So nobody thought they were going to do what they did, you know. I heard Doc Emmerich tell us, you know, we all love Doc, right?

And he said to me once that Vince Scully said to him, you know, when it comes to big moments, you know, like a cup or a championship, you probably should give it a little thought, but don't overthink it. Like you can't. And so sure enough, you know, I figured, well, Christ, if it's good enough for Doc Emmerich and Vince Scully, it's good enough for a dope like me. So, you know, but. But the funny part of it. about you ran down the Calder Cup and the two Stanley Cup things. They were exactly, each of them were exactly 12 years apart. So, like, P. Bruins was 99.

Bruins was 11. VGK was 23. So I don't know, 12 years from that, well, I'll be retired by then. No, dude, you're on something here, 2035. We've got to get eyes on, like, there'll be a new, Betman will launch a new team, you know, Houston will get their team or something. 235, you'll get the job. It'll be a new era.

Arizona team. It'll be a perfect retirement home for you, Gosh. Yeah, they'll go to Atlanta again. Yeah, yeah, seriously. You can do the broadcast from the golf course. It'll be perfect. Yeah, there you go. Remotly. That's what we all do now. Yeah, right. Look at us. Look at us now. Amazing. Well, Gosh, to get to talk about, I want to open with some Vegas stuff. This summer, Marner was, you know, the big free agent, big ticket in free agency, right? And that core four in Toronto couldn't get it done for whatever reason. I have my opinion. Everyone's good an opinion of what went wrong there. But you guys won the Cup in 2023. And since then, slightly underperformed, in my opinion, like you've had a cup team, you know, that hasn't been

able to get over the hump. And then you guys go out and I obviously ended up being a trade, but you bring in this guy, Mitch Marner, who hasn't had a ton of playoff success so far in his career. But again, maybe that's a Toronto thing from your POV up in the section 16, right? Section 16, up here. You got it. Yeah. What is a guy, what is bringing in a guy like Marner for a team like Vegas that has thrived with depth and like rolling lines?

What is bringing a guy like him do for that squad in your eyes? Yeah, I think, Chris, well, here, a couple of things. One is they couldn't, I don't think they could just run it back the way they did. You know, they've, the phrase that over, I just kind of keeps popping in my mind is they needed a DNA change. They needed to tweak it a little bit. To your point, Cup in 23, first round and out against Dallas the next year, second round out against Evanston this past year.

In both of those scenarios, the goals dried up. They scored one goal in the final two games of the playoffs each of the last two years. So I think they needed to do something significant. Now, I would say, and I'm with you that the teams that Mariner's been on in Toronto haven't done anything in the playoffs. But I think I was looking at it, he's almost a point of game player in the playoffs. Yeah. He is.

Sneaky, sneaky. Right. Gosh, I say that all the time. I was actually just having a conversation with Johnny Lazz, and when we were saying what players in the league get the most hate that they don't deserve from their fan base, and the discussion started because of Marner and Toronto. And the whole knock on him is playoffs,

but he is a playoff performer. And then look at Four Nations, too. It makes the unbelievable play game winning assists. It's like, I don't think he deserves this flack as much as he gets it. I think he'll benefit a lot, guys from. I can just kind of compare it. Like, Jack Eichel took a ton of heat in Buffalo. Yeah.

And he came to Vegas and he was able to leave all that behind, you know. And he went from a guy that had never made the playoffs to making the playoffs in Vegas and winning it the first year we got in, right? And led the league and scoring in the playoffs. Yeah. So I think, or I guess I hope anyways, that Marner can kind of benefit from the same thing. Like I say this about playing in Toronto, having been in the league for a while now. There's no city in the league. I mean, I guess you could say Montreal.

Because they get it in two languages. But in terms of scrutiny, it's not even. And I think, I haven't talked to Martin or all about this, but playing for your hometown team can be a blessing and a curse. Yes. Great. And I got to believe there's a part of him that's just looking forward to going and just playing hockey. And without all the scrutiny.

You know, Vegas is, you know, there's a lot of attention. Obviously, it's paid to that team for a lot of reasons. But I would tell you this, having, you know, worked in Boston for a long time, and the scrutiny is not nearly, nearly what it is in not even just Toronto. I'd say Boston or Montreal or New York or Philadelphia. There's an ability there to play. You know, I had somebody say to me once that, you know, in Toronto, there's no middle ground, right? Either everything's great or everything sucks.

Yeah. There's no. and you've got 30 people in there every day asking you why everything's great, everything sucks. I think that can get tiring. Now, when it's going great, maybe there's no better place to play. But when it's not going great, I think that can be, you know, that can wear on you. And so I hope for him it's a fresh start at still a young age. And, you know, I ran into Jack Eccle at a golf tournament recently.

And he was saying he doesn't know Monter that well, but, you know, they've had a few chats. And it's pretty intriguing to think about, you know, align with those two guys and figure out who's going to play left wing. Absolutely. I mean, it's, you're so right to you on when things are going well and not going well in Toronto. I also think that that margin for error is so razor thin as well, right? It's like things can be, you could be second in the Atlantic, and there'd still be fans who are like, we suck, and it's all the players' faults.

So it's just brutal. But, you know, I've said it a million times. I think we saw it at Four Nations. I think you see it in the playoffs. I think Jack Eichel is, you know, I think he is truly one of the best players alive. And the just vision he has, the passing he has, you know, I know Marner has been more of a setup man himself. But it's like all of a sudden now you got both of those guys hopefully on a line together who will be setting each other up. And it's like, I think you got the makings of a dry-sidal McDavid type of vibe, seriously.

Well, that's the running joke is somebody's going to have to shoot the puck. And that's true. That's true. But, no, I agree. Look, I think, and, you know, just to pick out more what you're saying about Jack, I, you know, I knew a little bit because I went to be you, as you mentioned, all those years ago. But long before Jack was there, 20 years before Jack was there. But having, you know, I was in Boston at the time and got to see a fair amount of his games. Yeah, of course.

But to see him play, you know, now 80 to 90 to whatever it is, 100 times you hear how far they go in the playoffs. his ability to, you mentioned, you know, playmaking, his skating ability, his ability to hold guys off. He kind of welcomes the contact sometimes. He wants guys to come at him so he can roll off him. And just his competitiveness. You know, pretty special, pretty special. You know, it's, and I think for him now, you know, you go from winning it to a couple of early exits, not just him, but I think the guys that have been here the last, several years in Vegas.

You know, there's a hunger to, the expectation out there, guys, and, you know, you've seen it, is through the roof. But they built that by how good they've been since the beginning. And I think you'd much rather have that than just apathy, right? Like, I think that would be the worst. So hopefully they can take some good steps forward this year. Yeah. I do want to know, Gosh, how fast do you feel the sort of kinship to the team? You know, you're a New England guy, went to a Boston school.

You know, you won a Stanley Cup with the Boston Bruins in 2011. And you moved to this new team. But when you're just in it, you know, you're looking at the guys every day. You're analyzing their gameplay every day. How quickly do you feel a part of that team community franchise, the whole thing? Yeah, it didn't take long, to be honest, for the DP. Like, I, you know, you get out there. Here's the funny part.

You don't think the team, it's easy to sit here. now in the summer of 2025, but go back to the summer of 2017. Nobody thought, you know, thought they'd be bad for a few years. Yeah, for sure. You know, I, Shane Idy, my broadcast partner, we tell this story a lot, but, you know, they started 8 and 1 that year and, you know, look, go back to the shootings, October 1, like before they even played a game, they had to deal with all this, right? Yeah.

And the team was unbelievable in the community, trying to make people. people feel just a little bit better. And I think we tried to do that with our broadcast. Look, and I had, you know, I had kind of lived through all the Boston Marathon bombings in 2013. And the Bruins, that was year they lost in Chicago with the final. And I, that was the old David Ortiz. This is RF in the city, right? Incredible.

Teams can help, you know, even if it's for a couple hours a day, right? It's not a cure-all and it's not supposed to be. But you can give people something else to think about, right? And so I think the team in Vegas, well, I know the team in Vegas, they were able to do that right away coming off, you know, just a horrendous tragedy. But they won a lot of games early. And Shane and I used to joke around, not on television, but we'd be like, well, this is great, but where the hell are they going to be at Thanksgiving? Yeah, yeah. There's no way they can keep this crap up and shows you how smart we are.

And they just kept winning. So, yeah, so that's the thing, guys. So it's a long way of saying I, you feel a part of it pretty quick, especially when as a, you're there on the ground floor. That was one of the intriguing things about going there for me was, A, it was television, but B, it was you were going to be part of the first broadcast team, you know? Yeah. You know, one of these days, somebody else will do it. But, you know, we were able to get there first. So we were, we were lucky enough.

So I think you felt pretty involved right away because the team's entrenched in the community. You know, it's, it is a hockey town, Dave. Huge. No, no doubt. It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. They're huge on the Vegas-born stuff, right?

You'll see Vegas-born bumper stickers all over the place. And I, you know, I don't say this with any disrespect to the Raiders or the Oakland A's are coming in a few years. It is different. It is different. It's not a team that relocated. You know, a gold nitre a team that sprung from nothing. And, you know, meeting a lot of people over the last eight years that have lived a long time in Vegas. They would tell you they were waiting for a long time to have the wrong.

own team because I think you get, you know, they get, there's a stereotype. You kind of get pigeonholed. There's a stereotype about it's if you live in Vegas, your day to day is not going down to the strip and playing $5,000 a hand blackjackets. Like, what the hell are we talking about? Yeah. A, I'm too cheap. Yeah. B, I work too hard for it. It's just not your, you know, I was on a duckboat once in Boston. Yeah. One time. Once. Yeah. In June of 2011. I never walked the freedom trail. Yeah. Like I don't, you know what I mean?

So it's, but people wanted their own identity away from the strip. And I think what helps build that is having a sports team. And the fact that this team's been incredibly successful is just, you know, is even icing on a cake. Adobe Acrobat Studio, your new foundation. Use BDF spaces to generate a presentation. Grab your docs, your permits, your moves. AI levels of your pitch gets it in a groove. Choose a template with your timeless cool.

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obviously being in Vegas for a couple of Stanley Cups. It's wild how much they have taken. route in the community. And it's cool because we talk to fans, like, people like, oh, where would a player want to live? Where do you like going? And we say Vegas all the time. And people are like, aren't you exhausted? And I'm like, no, man, if you go to these towns that the guys live in, it's just beautiful. It's quiet. There's golf courses. There's pools. It's fantastic. Are you in Summerlingos? Yeah. Yeah. I tell people there's real people, real jobs, real communities, real families. Like, it's not, you know, it's a big hospitality. I get all that. But like,

Not everybody works on the strip. Like it's, you know, the strip is, I want to say it's four miles long. It's not that big. Like it's, Vegas isn't a big city. Yeah, correct. It's not Boston. It's not, I mean, nothing's New York or L.A., I guess. But you know what I mean?

Like, you're exactly right. I mean, I always say you could, Summerlin's pretty much where all of us live. I say you could drop a net around a six mile radius and hit everybody that, you know, I'm talking about broadcasters, coaches, players. Some in bigger houses and others, but that's, Mark Stone's house is probably a little bigger than more, but that's okay.

A couple of garages look a little different, but that's basically it. And what's in the garage, yeah, exactly. But that's okay. You know, it's the quality of life, right?

I mean, we, have you guys been out there? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know the deal. Like where we practice in Summerlin, there's two practice ring,

and that's where our team offices are. I mean, I drive five minutes from my house. I don't even get on. I go around a couple of rotaries, and I don't know, though, it's just, it's a great quality of life, guys. That, to me, is what it comes down to, right? It's amazing.

You guys, you know, live in L.A., right? Mollah, good char. That's not easy. I'm telling you guys. Oh, yeah. No, it's huge. I mean, it's like, 10 miles turns into three hours and you're ready to lose it. Never, yeah, I'm never leaving my house again.

It's crazy thing. You know, we know, obviously those guys really well, and they love playing there, but it's nuts when these guys, you know, they're driving from the South Bay to downtown L.A. every day for a game. It's mental. But talking about that family, the Vegas family, I wanted to bring up Petrangelo. And, you know, he obviously had this hip injury all year long. We actually remember talking to Ikes during Four Nations and he was just saying pretty plainly, it's just a lot of hockey. Like the guy has played a lot of hockey.

And I do think a lot of people, you know, they look at him. It's 35 years old. It's two-time Stanley Cup champion, one with Vegas. And I think people are like, oh, yeah, Petro is a good player. But I feel like they don't realize how insanely important. important he is to that team and how good, like top tier, S-tier level defensemen he is in the NHL, how brutal do you think that loss is going to be for this team and what can they do possibly to make up for that hole in the lineup? Yeah. And I don't know if you, honestly, DP,

I don't know if you replace that. Like it's, yeah, right? Like, you can't. I think where you'd miss him most is probably in the playoffs, you know, because of his resume. You know, he's kind of won everything you want to win, right? So, you know, there's been a lot of talk about them trying to get Rastner-Sanderson. I don't know. It seems like that's kind of cooled off, I guess. I don't like, he's taken a beating physically. You know, he's the hip thing, I think he was hoping last year with the hip thing at the four,

because he skipped four nations because of it, you know, and did some stuff to try to make it more manageable. And I guess it worked for a little while. But I was saying to somebody recently, when they beat, when the Blues beat the Bruins, in 19. He was dominant. I mean, he was, right? It was awesome. But he was also 29. Yeah. So there's a lot of miles

on those tires. So I don't, I don't know if you. You know, their decor still, look, Hanofin's the guy that when they traded for him a couple of years ago and signed him to a long extension. I mean, he pretty much earmarked as that he was going to be the guy to take him through

the next seven, eight years, whatever's going to be. And there's still in a pretty dynamic decor with, you know, Hem and Shea Theater, especially, and Braden McNabs, you know, fills just a vital role back there for them.

I think they're hoping Caden Corsack. And, you know, he's, Corsax's a guy that's just kind of been waiting in the wings, right? And whenever somebody would hurt, Theodore broke his wrist at four nations, Petrangelo missed time, that throw Corsac in and it'd be fine, right?

Yeah. But he's not Petrangelo. But I guess you could make the argument. Petrangelo isn't Petrangelo from a couple of years ago. Well said. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know.

I think they've probably would be by committee a little bit to try to fill that void. I don't know if they try to. I don't know if they go and pick somebody up before the season. I mean, they've never been shy about adding people to the deadline and they've had a hell of a job of it. They're not passive. They're aggressive. They're not the two. They're the other one.

Yeah. They're the latter in a big way. Yeah. That is true. Yeah. So when I think, you know, having been around it from the beginning, I think they may have, I don't know, they may have redefined how teams do it. You know, they weren't going to sit there.

And because forever, and I get it, it was draft and develop your own players and then sprinkle in some free agents. Bruins did it when they, you know, those in that cup year and then third, I mean, they think about Creachy and Luchich and Marshaun, you go right on, and Bergeron, you go right on down the list. I don't know about it now. I mean, the Golden Knights weren't going to do that. I think initially that was their plan, right?

Yeah. Well, they go to the final in the first year. Like, wait a minute. We can't. We can't. Now what do we do? So, but I think they realized they had to get better. You know, if they, if they looked at it, they zoomed out as great as that first year was.

They needed a Mark Stone. They needed an Alice Petrangelo. They needed the Jack Eichel, you know, Alec-Martinez. So anyway, let me edit my answer. I don't know how they do. I don't know how they fix that with petrol. Yeah. I don't know if they can, you know.

But see, like, I love that answer. because it's it's that is the thing you know that that's the answer from someone who's on the inside that I think people do need to hear and it's that's not to say that they're not going to have a fantastic year or not be a cup contender I think they absolutely will but I I feel that so many people have seen the addition of a martyr and then you know the whispers of a guy like Raspers Anderson and they're forgetting that there is a massive massive hole that is going to need either by committee or or a miracle replacing yeah and and goes we actually I was going to ask you what I'm about to say, but you kind of answered at the top, but I was curious

your POV on what gets this team over the hump with an addition of Marner, with a loss of Petrangelo, and maybe it is just the goals drying up in playoffs from your POV if that was it, because it's been so, like, Dan said at the top. I mean, we think Jack's one of the best players in the league. There's, like, three guys I would take over him if I'm starting a team right now. And we've seen a couple different versions of him. The Vegas just, like, team where Jack has 66 points and leads the team. And then obviously as the career last year, I'm just curious what you think maybe is the best version of Jack for this team.

And then maybe what the like, how do we get over the hump issue is? Yeah. I think they have to find ways to score when it, when it, when it gets tough in the playoffs. Yeah. You know, they used to be a great and they still are a great team that scores off the rush. You don't see a lot of that in the playoffs. Yeah, good call. Right.

You have to grind out goals. Because I remember them saying, too, that Skinner is, is a whole, off the rush specifically. Like that's where his worst stats were, and there was none of that generated at all against Edmonton. That's a good call. So I think that's part of it. You know,

even this past year guys, I mean, guys that scored for a lot for them in the first round, Howden, Barbashev, hurdle, there's others, but let's just for the sake of argument,

those goals to write up for all those guys in the second round. So whether it's creating in the offensive zone, which they have, that is something they've tried to do for the the last couple of years, especially coming off the Dallas series. The funny part is their power play was the best it's ever been this year. Yeah. So, but you can tell me they have the third or fourth best power play in the league, but

when it comes crunch time in the playoffs, can't it come through at key moments? There's times it did and there's times it didn't. So I think it's, you've got to find different ways to score. I do think tweaking, you know, bringing in somebody like Mariner and kind of, you know, and somebody like Colton Sissons is a good fourth-line guy, but I'm talking a high. high-end, you know, you could make an argument, guys. I mean, there's Marner, any list you want to make, one of the top ten players in the league, top ten forwards.

He's a hell of a player. And I know he's the scrutiny in Toronto, but, you know, he's a phenomenal player. And then with Jack, I mean, look, he was on his way to 100 points last year. I think it hurt. Yep. And missed some time, played through it. I think for him, you know, can you get, and you know, we had this with Jonathan the Marsha so.

Then him and Stone, seeing both, you know, him and Stone and Barboshev had some great chemistry. They did so much scoring early last year. You know, can he develop some chemistry with Marner? And then, yeah, my thought is you'd have Barboshev on that left wing,

but what the hell do I know? Yeah. But, you know, they have guys that are phenomenal players, world-class players. And if you look at, if you think teams are built by strength down the middle, and it's Eichel, Hurdle,

Carlson, and now Sissons, that's pretty good, but you're still going to find ways to score. Find those playoff goals. Yeah. In the playoffs. Because, yeah, if you don't, you're done and, you know, you're done early than you want to be done. Yeah, yeah. If we get into broadcasting, Gosh, something that I feel like you always thought might have been cool from the days when you were announcing wiffleball games between you and your cousin back at your house, you then get to B.U.

That's deep knowledge that you would know that. Yeah. You're at BU, you're done playing hockey, and you start calling games from the radio for the student section. How do you go from that to Wheeling West Virginia? Nobody else would hire me. Easy, easy choice. Was it? No, it's, well, to your point, I was at BU.

My last two years I did student radio, nobody cared. Nobody listened. It wasn't very good. They weren't missing much of anything. Must have been fun, though, eh? Like that must have been cool, yeah. Yeah, like, and this was, before you guys were on the earth, there was a thing called the old Boston Garden.

Yeah. No, we remember. Yeah. So we had, you know, I did some, a couple of bean pots there and some hockey's playoffs and hockey's championships there. And it was awesome. But, I mean, I did enough games. You know, I say, I still have in my garage in Vegas.

The tapes are probably ruined now because of the heat in the summer. But on cassette tape. most of the games I did at BU. Wow. No way. That's awesome. That is awesome. Yeah.

I don't know how awesome they sounded, but it's nice to have them. And, but I, you know, I say, but it was good enough, I guess, right? You know, in my business, you make a little tape and I send it to Wheeling. So how do you get to Wheeling? They were looking for a radio guy, and I have a good friend of mine, Bernie Corbett, who's been the voice of BU hockey on a station you could actually hear forever. And he said to me,

he said, I hear Wheeling, you know, I graduated BU. Yeah. And he said, it was in May or whatever, 93. And he said, you know, we went and had a beverage at the Elliott Lounge in Boston. And he said, what do you want to do? I said, Bernie, I know the NHL and Hockey East. I don't know anything else. I don't know the HL, the old IHL, the East Coast.

He said, well, Wheeling, West Virginia is. looking for a broadcaster. I said, where the hell's Wheeling West? What are you talking about? Where is that? Is that on Mars? Like, is it? Yeah, yeah.

You know? So, well, the answer is, it's about an hour southwest of Pittsburgh. So it's right near, the Penguins had just won their two cups in the 90s, early 90s, those back-to-backs. Yeah, yeah. So it's a very rich. Rosie's chiming in. Good job, Rosie. Rosie.

There's a big Penguins fan. That's a big wheeling, Thunderbird fan, Dan. Also loves the trash truck. Yeah. So, if trash trucks, UPS, UPS, Amazon, any delivery, it's like an axe murder trying to break it around. I appreciate that Rosie is a traditional dog in the absence. Like really. Nobody is sneaking up on this house.

Right, Rosie? So, so anyway, that's how it was a very rich hockey environment, wheeling back then, because the penguins is just one, two in a row. Rosie. And so I remember driving down for my interview. They called me. Larry Kish was the GM, which sadly passed not too long ago. And he's one of the few people that in my life they called me Davy. He goes, Davey, if you could make your way down here, we'd love to talk to you about the position.

Make your way down here. It didn't sound like they were flying me to Wheeling, West Virginia. So I called, again, this is before you guys were around. I called AAA, and they used to do a thing called triptychs. There were none of these frigging GPS phones. Oh, yeah. And I said, I've got to go from, I was still living in Brighton, Austin, Brighton. Yeah.

I said, I've got to go to Wheeling, West Virginia. And the woman said, where's that again, sir? I said, Wheeling, West Virginia. Yeah, Mars. And so she did the trip tick, and I drove 12 hours down, had dinner with him that night, interviewed the next day, drove 12 hours back. And I don't know, fooled them enough. I got the job two or three weeks later.

And it's funny, guys. But I will tell you this. I was 23 or 4, whatever I was. I told this story. They offered me 20 grand. And I was like, God, someone's going to pay me $20,000 to do this. Now, 20 grand divided by 52 weeks minus taxes, Social Security. I'm like, that's not a lot of money.

Oh, yeah. It wasn't really, I was just floored. Someone was actually going to pay me to do it. So that's how I ended up there. Was it a good time? Like, do you look, I mean, it's? Okay, there you go. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, because you know what's funny, though, DP? Like, the teams were good. My first year, they lost in the semifinals. My second year, they had the best record in the league, and they got upset in the first round. But whatever, it was, we had a 5,400 seat building and wheeling that we averaged 5,000 fans a night. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's fantastic.

It was fantastic. Yeah, we did a dozen. We simulcasted a dozen games a year on the local NBC station there. And back then did all our games on FM radio, which in the mid-90s was a really thing long before, you know, the sports hub or whatever. For sure. So, yeah, so I had a, you know, I always joke around. Like if two years turned into seven years, yeah. Maybe I don't like wheeling so much.

Yeah. Yeah, I might be working at the mall, which is not the wrong with that. But, you know, like. But no, I had, it was great. I mean, terrific people that love that team. And it, you know, more than anything else, it gave me the opportunity to do, I think back then we played 68 games a year or something in the East Coast League. And it gave me an opportunity to do a lot of games, which is certainly as a young guy is what I need. Yeah.

So when the Providence job opened up, was that something that you had kind of had your eyes on of maybe a cool homecoming or did it pop up out of nowhere and you just thought, I have to go for this? It was more out of nowhere. It's kind of a funny story. My dad was still with us at the time. So I grew up in Patucket, as you mentioned. The Bucket. And no more paw socks, which hurts my soul. I know, dude.

God, those were like the best times ever. Oh, my God. But I was coming home on vacation just to see my dad for a week. You know, season was over and Wheeling. And I was calling this girl I used to date at BU. She was from Rhode Island. but we weren't, we hadn't, you know, we were just friends at the time. And I was calling her to say, hey, let's grab dinner when I'm home.

And we talked for probably 15 minutes. And then she said to me, she knew somebody that worked for the Peabre Province rooms. And she said, by the way, I think they're looking for a radio guy. And I'm like, talk about very in the lead. Like, let's, can we? We get to the important stuff. Right, Rosie? Rosie.

And, uh, okay, go on. Sorry, go on. No. So anyway, that's how it, so I remember calling them and trying to play my, you know, hey, I'm, this is Dave Gosher. I'm from Pawtucket, blah, blah, blah. And they were like, yeah, that's great. Whatever.

And they said, the guy then ended up hiring me, this guy, Randy Scott, who's a very good friend of mine to this day. He said, why don't just call us when you're in town? Yeah. So I did. And I remember going in, as we taped this today in Rhode Island, it feels like temperatures like 104. And I swear that day back then, it was one of those 100-degree, like stifling hot. And I had one of my two sports coats, my khaki pants, and one of my two ties I had, and went in for the interview. And again, I'm not great at knowing how do these things go.

I don't know. Like, I didn't think I said anything stupid, but I probably did. And then, I don't know, three weeks later had the job. So it was great for me, guys, just because it was two-fold, right? was a chance to take another step up and B, come home. So, and C, you know, kind of be closer to Boston, although like Providence to Boston isn't, I don't know, 45 miles, 50 miles, but it is a long way. Oh, for sure. In the broadcast world sometimes.

Yeah. So, but anyway, that was how I, that was how I ended up getting back, you know, kind of getting back home, but also been able to take a step up at the same time. Is the girl you went on the date with who told you about it in your life? still? Not really. No. I thought that that story was going to book end.

And now that's my wife. And I was going to lose my mind. No, she was smart. She married somebody else. Yeah. But at least, at the very least, she gave me a heads up. It took her a while.

Did she looks great, solid. Yeah. Dude, I love that. It's like dessert. You know, she's like, by the way, your dream job's open. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely insane.

Well, speaking of dream job, Gosh, in April 2000, B's job, B's radio job opens up, which must have literally felt like, you know, a dream come true for you at this moment. Is it true that you auditioned in an empty room with a... Oh, absolutely true. Yeah, absolutely true. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what happened, guys. You guys remember Bob Neumeier? Yeah.

God rest him. He's been gone, sadly, a few years. And he was doing the... He was doing... So I did the Bruins games for five years, Peebberones, rather. Yep. 95 to 2000. He did the Bruins on, at the time, WBZ radio before the sports help was even a thought.

Same five years. And I don't think NUME. Yeah, Dan. That is a blast from the past. Easy, right? 50,000 watt powerhouse, 38 states, seven Canadian provinces, all that stuff. Jesus. So, but Numi was, you know, he was, but he was also a hell of a anchor on Channel 4 in Boston, WBZE,

TV, right? And I don't think he was the type that was going to, he wasn't going to be a lifer at doing play-by-play. He wasn't going to be like somebody like me, you know, and do it for until they tell you you can't do it anymore. Yeah. Yeah. So he was, you know, he kind of wanted to do other things. And the funny part of the story is I was doing the Pete Bruins games. And we were going to Quebec City to La Colise in Quebec City to start a playoff series back when the Montreal, Canadian's affiliate was in, Quebec City. And I was, we were going to get on an eight-hour bus trip. And I opened up the Boston Herald. You guys are too young.

You remember Jim Baker used to run the, write the sports media column for the Herald. And there was an article in the paper, Newmire to leave Bruins post. Chuck Caten, who was the voice of the Carolina Hurricanes, is frontrunner to get position. And I'm like, what are we talking about? Yeah. Like, Rosie, I wasn't happy about it either. It's fine. Yeah, yeah, it sucked, Rosie.

I know. She wasn't even alive. Yeah. And I was thinking, how can the game be over before I get in the game? Yeah, seriously. So I don't know. I called WBZ Radio. Just call for yourself.

I called information and said, what the hell is the number, you know, like back then? There was no Googles. Danny called AAA. He said, listen, I need to figure out to the garden. These are big. Yeah. Rosie, lock it up. So I called there and for whatever region got put through to the GM.

And I don't know. He said, well, when can you come in here to talk about the job? And I said, I don't know, I'm getting on a bus for eight hours to go to Quebec City. I'm going, you know, and I could hear him flipping through his calendar. And he said, what about Friday at two? I said, okay, sure. So I was up in Quebec City for a few days. Then I went and interviewed.

but then the audition came later. Bob Bielers, who still does the games on radio, color animals. He was there before me. And they, once Chuck Caten, Chuck Caten was the voice of the Hartford Whalers, went to Carolina when they moved.

Yeah. The thought was he might want to come back to New England. And then once that kind of, I guess it wasn't going to happen, they kind of expanded their search. And I was part of that. So they ended up having probably five guys going in audition with Bob. Bob at WBZ Radio, calling it off. I mean, to monitor it would be as big as my laptop screen in a conference room with like Walkman headsets and a stick mic. And I'm like, is this how we're going to decide this?

Like, yeah. But I think they were just looking to see if there was any sort of chemistry on the air as much as you could have from sitting in a neck. Yeah. Holding a stick. Yeah. And so I don't know. I, you know, they, I think my recollection is all those years ago. They narrowed it down from five to three. And then the guy that ran Bezzi radio called me. And I always think it's funny. He said to me, hey, Dave, if you're agreeable, I'm like, if I'm agreeable, you want me to walk up in 93 backwards? That's fine. Yeah, yeah. Would like to make an offer to be the next radio announcement for the Boston Bruins. I'm like, yeah, that would be fine. That's agreeable. It is agreeable to me. Yeah. So anyway, that's how it, yeah, but it was,

it was probably a, I got to think, probably a two-month process. Yeah, I bet. Oh, my God. You know, because every time the phone rings, you're thinking, uh, this is probably they're telling me hit the bricks, right? Sure. And then when they called and actually offered you the job, you like, you almost couldn't believe what was coming out of the other end of the phone. So that was that was pretty cool.

And then what was it like working with Fred Cusick and Bob Wilson? Like, you know, two guys you listen to it. Like, you have this job and now you're in, now you're there with them. That's insane. Yeah. Yeah. What was awesome. I, you know, I got to know Bob fairly well.

He lived in New Hampshire because he was retired, obviously. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, we got together a few times for dinner. And I remember the first time I met him, he says, Dave, how do you feel about nicknames? And I said, Mr. Wilson, he goes, call me Bob. I said, okay, Bob. He goes, he goes, he goes, me neither. And I think that was a way of him saying, don't do that.

Yeah, yeah. You know, and to this day, like I never, I always say this guy. you're friendly with the guys. You're not friends with them. Like, I'm not. Yeah, I know, I hear you. Yeah. I'm not going out for dinner on the road with Mark Stone.

I mean, great guy. But like, you know what I mean? There is a separation there, right? So, but Bob was unbelievable. Sadd, he's been gone a long time. But we, Jack Edwards and I, because they had named the radio booth for Fred Cuson. I'm sorry, the TV booth for Fred Cusick. Yeah.

And Jack Edwards and I, we said, well, But my recollection is they did it after Fred had passed away. And Jack and I were like, we should try to get this radio booth name for Bob Wilson while he can still enjoy it while he's still here, you know? So we were on the road somewhere. And Cam Neely was on the road trip. And we happened, Jack and I and Cam got to the same elevator. And you know how they say you should have your elevator speech? You know, like you got five floors here.

Say what you got to say? And I don't know. We said something to Cam about. basically what I just said, like, Bob's a legend that it would be great if maybe we could dedicate it to him. And I guess he listened because the next thing, you know, they dedicated it to Bob. So to be able to have him come in and, you know, be able to sit down. Oh, it was awesome. You know, and then the Fred Cusick part of it, when I was still, when the games, the Bruins were on BZ still, and it's probably 2008, they did a Cape Cod League game of the week baseball.

Yeah. And they asked me, Fred Cusick lived in Barnstable. Oh, yeah, yeah. And the previous summer, he had done the game of the week. And it was just like every Monday. You'd do a game in Yarmouth, do a game in Hyannis, do a game in Orleans, whatever. And he didn't want to do it the next summer. So BZ thought it was going to be a cool idea if the current radio guy for the Bruins would do it.

So I said, sure, that was fun. It kind of was 10 games in the summer. So one game in Hyannis, my partner, John Garner, who's the director of communications for the Cape League, couldn't do it? And they said, wouldn't it be cool if we could get Fred to do it? And I'm like, absolutely. Yeah.

So Fred and I did, it was like Hyannis played. You guys did a Cape League game together. We did a Cape League game together. That is insane. Someone needs to get that tape. I know. So I've got picture, Rosie, I know. It's a big deal.

So I've got a picture of Fred. and I framed from and I think somewhere I had him sign my scorecard yeah yeah um just because like you know that was like an oh eight I think he passed the next year I was like the chances of this ever happening again yeah yeah we're pretty slim and turned out they it never did it but again but it was it was almost like the game was secondary yeah like oh are you kidding I just picked his brain for two and a half hours yeah the event what do you remember about war's goal in 70s you Like, yeah, just stuff like that, you know, when they won the cup in 72 at Madison Square Garden, you know, like, so anyway, he was, but he was great. Fred was, but he was very, um, he was low key, like, yeah, on the air, he'd be yelling like a maniac, you know, he's great, like some of those goal calls, right?

Oh, yeah. But then, I swear, like, 10 minutes after the game was over, people would tell me, like, if they were, it was a road game for the sake of argument, he'd get on the bus to go to the airport. or go back to the hotel and he would just, he'd be reading his book. Yeah. He was just like, so anyway, I guess you can't, you know, that personality, it was different, but no, they were both. And to your point, Chris, those are the two guys.

Yeah, sure. They were kind of the soundtrack to my winter on radio and TV with those two guys, you know, doing the Bruins camps. So epic, man. You love having those guys, you know, in your mind. Was there a specific, you know, before we depart the Bruins era, because it was, you know, an insane run. Was there a moment that really sticks out for you?

That was just maybe one of the more electrifying times you had doing Bruins games? Yeah, I mean, there was a few, right? I mean, you know, them winning it, obviously. Yeah, sure, yeah. Winning in Vancouver. I mean, that's, you know, I say this to people, guys. You know, those people that have done this two or three times longer than I have, and their teams have never won anything, you know?

Well, they've never been close, or they've, haven't been to the final or, you know, so I think just being lucky enough to do that and be there in Vancouver to call it. I think that would be, I mean, anytime you get a chance to call your team winning a championship, it's got to be at the top of the list. You know, the other, you know, we joked at the beginning of this, the Bergeron thing. I mean, I tell the story. So he scores that goal to, well, sometimes it gets lost in the mix. He score the goal to tie the game. I know, dude.

You know, like. So ridiculous. So. And then do you remember, we always joke in that, that fucking game, Peverely almost scored with like two seconds left. Like that was insane. Yeah, bounced over a stick. Yeah, I remember that.

Well, the other thing I remember is, Claude Julian said about that team, they were a Jekyll and Hyde team. That ruined team is that was the lockout short in year, right? Yeah, yes, that's right. And so that's, that first round of the playoffs was like in the second week of May because they didn't start until January.

They played the shortened season, right? Yeah. So anyway, that team was very, you know, they were up three to one in that series, too. I know. So I remember Claude used to say that. And I remember saying something about, fortunate enough, Dr. Jekyll showed up just at time. You know, the other thing I remember is, because I remember thinking before the overtime that it would have been just like that team to lose. They could have certainly lost. And about five minutes into overtime, remember Jaffrey Lupel played for the Leafs?

Yeah. He had an unbelievable chance from 20 feet out that Tuka Rasch made a great stick save. Yes. And I was like, oh, my God. The other thing I remember was even though the Bruins got it to four to two in the third period, I'm going to going back a little bit. Matt Fratton. Oh, had a breakaway. Had a breakaway.

Had a breakaway. You're right. I forgot about that. All these little, you know. But anyway, I just remember when they were down four to one. And my phone, my buddies were texting me because they were going to be massive changes. They were probably going to fire the coach. So my buddies were texting me, this sucks.

Do you want to play golf tomorrow? And I was getting annoyed at reading the text. Yeah. So I put my phone out of reach. Then they come back in the time again. And I picked up, you know, between the third period and the overtime and the tone of those text changed a lot. Hell yeah. So whatever, Bergeron.

scores, they win the game. So the next, for about a year, there's still a lot of anonymity when you're on the radio, but in Boston there's not quite as much because it's just it's a big market and sports up's a huge station. So for a year, I would have people every once in a while yell at me out of the blue, Bergeron, Bergeron, Berger on, Berger on, Berger on, and I'm like, hell's going on here, right? So the next year they lose to Montreal and the first year, they lose to Montreal in the first round they get upset and seven

they lost game seven in Boston. So I never had said anything when Lucci said again That was the handshake line when Luchich threatened Dale Wace's life. Right, that's exactly right. Exactly right. So I had never said anything to Bergeron

just because, like, the hell do you say? But I figured after a year of hearing this come back to me, I said, I don't know. So I said to him, hey, look, Bergey, I think I kind of said, I don't know how to say this to you, but thanks for scoring that overtime goal in gave seven against the Leifes. I said for the last year, I basically, you know, a couple times a month,

whatever, had people yelling your name at me. You know what he said to me? Yeah, me too. God. He goes, if you think you hear it. Yeah, yeah. I'm the actual guy that scored. Oh, my God.

It is such a good point. I'm sure people come up to them all the time. They're just doing the burglars, burning. Yep. He goes, yeah, me too. I said, well, okay. Yeah, good deal. I'm glad to share that with you, you know.

That is awesome. But no, I think guys, you know, look, they were, you know, it's funny when I think about it now, the first six, seven years I was doing the games, they weren't very good. You know, they were, they had a good team, Mike Sullivan's 0304. They were really good. They got upset by Montreal in the first round. Brought in Dave Lewis for a year. That wasn't good.

But once they brought in Clode, right? Yeah, yeah, it shifted. Yep. They had a decade there of, you know, I always thought that team should have won more, but you know what? It's not that easy. Chicago had that run. The Kings won two.

Oh, for sure. It's not that easy to, you know, to just to do that, you know. And, you know, and then they got a little bit older and missed the play. You know, but you kind of know the whole rest of the story. Yeah. To be there when they kind of went from not being real relevant, relevant to being very relevant was great to. see because those other teams, the Patriots won their first three, right?

The Red Sox finally broke through and won a couple then. The Celtics won it in 08, you know? By the time the Bruins won in 11, they were the team that hadn't won it in 39 years. Yeah, like they were the finisher. That's true. Yeah. So it was good to be able to see that breakthrough and finally, you know,

win one of their own. Yeah. And goes real quick just because I think you mentioned this recently, you're staying in Vegas going to do the thing. I know the Bruins were calling a little bit, but I just wanted to hear before we get to a game with you, what's the biggest difference between when you made that big switch? Because obviously that was a huge decision for you, leaving Boston,

but it was like this new frontier and go to television. So like what was the impetus of that decision? And what's the biggest difference doing TV than radio? Yeah, good question, Chris. I mean, I just felt like I was kind of ready to, you know, like you get that little like, what's next? Right? What's the next challenge? Absolutely.

You know, if you do all the math, I mean, I was seven years in the minor leagues and 17 doing the Bruins dress, 24 years of radio. And, you know, Bob Wilson did it this whole career. And I mean, it was the best there ever was doing radio. It's phenomenal. But I felt like I had done some TV. I did a package of games where NBCSN used to do a college hockey package. I guess this was in 2013 and 14, I guess.

So I did a package of games for them. You know, I, B.C. Maine, UMass, UNH, whatever, BU. And after I did that first game on TV, I did the games with Ken Hodg Jr., former Bruin, Kenny Hodges's son. After I did that first game on TV, this is like in 2013, I thought this is something I'd like to try to do sometime. Okay. Yeah. That's kind of the next challenge for me. Now, here's the problem.

Nobody else was thinking that. So they weren't kicking the doors. Yeah, right. I was the only one. So. But by the time, Vegas got a team, you know, when I used to have to weigh guys,

Radio and Boston, which is, if you were going to list the best radio jobs in the NHL, the Bruins would be in the top five, easily, you know. Radio and Boston or TV and City, XYZ, it's not comparable sometimes.

You know? Yeah, yeah. But when Vegas got a team, that was a little different. You know, now you're talking Vegas. Yeah. First ever major league team. And being the first ones, you know, that Shane I and I, that was different. You weren't following anybody. You know, it's easy, as we said earlier, like, it's turned into all it's turned into. None of us knew, ever thought that would happen, especially so quick. But that was kind of the, that was my thought process was professionally it made, all the sense of the world.

Personally, it was a challenge just because 95% of my family and friends are still in Rhode Island, and Rhode Island, Massachusetts, like, but I'll tell you this, they all come to Vegas. Yeah. They all come out. Yeah. So, like, and I get, you know, I'm very blessed. Like, I get to come back, you know, to the Rhode Island coast in the summer. And so, you know, in a way, I kind of get the best of both worlds.

So that was some of the thought process going into it. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah, that's so awesome. Okay. Dave, we're going to play two super fast games to you, and then we'll get you out of here. Okay.

The first one, we play with everybody. It's called pass, shoot, score. So we give you three things in a category. You have to rank them pass, shoot, score. Pass being your least favorite because passing puck is cool, but whatever. Shooting is your next favorite because puck's on net. Scoring, of course, is your favorite. So for you, Dave, we are doing a pass shoot score, a music category, a guitar category, in fact,

because you play guitar and sing in a music. a band called double minor, which is just literally chef's kiss fucking perfect. Like I cannot believe it. So we can get into that in a second, but here's your pass shoot score, okay? Your category, your category is guitars. Pass shoot score, your Martin acoustic, your Paul Reed Smith electric, or your first fender electric that you took lessons on in 2005. I would pass on my first fender. I would score on my.

I would shoot with my Martin and I would score with the PRs. You're going electric. Okay. I play at every show. Yep. Every show. Wow. I love it.

But I will tell you this. But at home in the music room, are you on the Martin or what? I'm on the Martin. Yeah, okay. There we go. And I'll tell you why. Because it's, I love it, but it's a little, it's a little harder on your fingers. That makes sense?

Yeah, the action, of course. Yeah. The action. The action's heavy there, yeah. My little, I don't know if it's a tradition or just a superstition. Like, we have a game. on Saturday night or whatever, I'll run through all our songs that afternoon on my Martin. Because I just think it makes it easier for the show.

There's a tough and you up. But I think it does. There you go. Hey, tell everyone which songs, which songs are you soloing on? Which songs are you singing on? You lead singer on. Oh, God. Blister in the sun.

I hope that song. Yep. Yeah. Psycho killer. Yep. Oh, wow. I sing most, I've seen kind of co-lead on you, maybe right, Billy Joel. Yeah, yeah.

Roadhouse Blues by the doors. I do a little... That's the one you riffed the... I riff the Golden Knights winning the cup. I've had to change it just because... Well, two things. I riff it because I don't think anyone knows what the hell Jim Morrison says. Agree.

Yeah, yeah. Say whatever you want. Adump, a jacca, gink, chunk. I have no idea what he's saying. Yeah. And I've tried to find the lyrics. I can't remember whatever the words he's making up. Yeah.

So I said to the guy, screw that. I'll just do my own version of it. So you literally say like the knights have won the cup, like during the show? Right after they won it, so I would, if we had shows, maybe in the first year, I would, in that middle section of the song, I would start off by saying we get a real pressure cooker going here, which is from Paradise by the Dashboard Light, just to see if anyone's paying attention. And then I would riff Mark Stone's three goals, the hat trick, and game fire. That's what I would do. That's so sick. So, yeah, I sing the lead on that.

What was I sing the lead on? there's more. Oh, we just added another door song. Break on through. Oh, wow. Great. Here we go. Should I stay or should I go about a clash?

Great song. Wow. Holy show. There's probably, I sing guys on pretty much every, you know, some. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. But lead, I would say about eight, I guess, for two reasons. One is, I don't think I'm good enough to be the lead singer.

Two is, I can't blow my. voice out. I'm going to say, dude. The Golden Knights are going to want to hear. Hey, I can't do the game tomorrow because I blew my voice out at Frankie's Bar singing. I was singing Roxanne too loud. Singing Psycho Killer. Yeah, in Henderson. So anyway, yeah, about, I would say six to eight.

So awesome. Just started down under by men at work. That's a tough one because that's up there. Colin Hayes up there. What else? But yeah, there's more. Those are the ones that come. So cool.

I love it, dude. It's so awesome. It's a great release. Our last game for you, go, is we call it Career Hattie. So your career hat trick. So when we do this with the players, we ask them to pick their three favorite goals they've scored in their career. Any level. You know, college junior, whatever.

I want to give you an option. I want to hear, and you can think about it for a second before you answer, but I want to hear either your three favorite goals that you've called or your three favorite games. Oh, cool then. You get to pick. Oh. I'll go three favorite games. How's that sound? Great. Perfect.

Is this still the past shoot score situation? No, no, no. This is just your three favorite. This is going to be your career hat trick of three favorite games. A lot of games for me to keep track up here. Too many. I would say the three games that come to my number one would be the Bruins winning the Stanley Cup. Number two would be, it's hard to limit it to three.

I would say number two would be game seven. Bruins Tampa, 2011. The one-n- Oh, the perfect game. It was the perfect hockey game. And I would say probably game three, just because it was the first year of the Golden Knights, they beat the Kings in double overtime. I still think it's their longest game they've ever played. Eric Hollis scored in double overtime.

So I would think those are, and there's a lot more than that. I was blessed, especially the Bruins days to call a lot of big playoff games. But I would say those three would be, you know, the Bergeron. game was a hell of an ending, but it looked like the game was going to be total crap until it worked out. Yeah, it's a good point. In terms of a whole game, those three would, those three would be at the top of the list. Those are fantastic. I love it.

This has also been fantastic. Dave Gosher, thank you so much for popping on. Before we let you go, is there anything you want to shout out, anything you want to plug? What's going on in your life? No, double miners got a bunch of gigs coming up in Vegas in September. There we go. Dude, I want to come to it for real. Yeah, that would be sick.

Yeah. going to come. We will get you. If we had a mailing list, I would put you on the mailing list. Hey, well, we're a quick flight away. We're there a lot. Listen, I got to keep my United status up, so that's an easy flight. As you know, we'll come to a show. 45 minutes. We promote them on the gram. You know, the ground. What's the band's IG? What's the band's Ben Vegas. But mine, I put mine, just David, I think it's David C. Gosher or David Gosser, David Dot Gosher or something like on the Instagrams. But yeah, I promote them. We should do a better job of promoting them. So I'm promoting it right now. Yeah. Hey, well, we're going to pump it. I love it.

There's five shows in September. I miss a lot of them because of my hockey. Not a lot, but a few. And again, the team's not going to want to hear. I can't go to St. Louis because. But anyway, No, that's been great, guys. Thanks for, thanks for having me. Rosie's always appreciate you joining you as well. Yes. Rosie is the real guest here. She's the real star.

Yeah. Massive, gargantuan, ginormous. Thank you to Gosch. What an absolute pleasure. We say this a lot, but sometimes I'm like, oh, I could have gone for five hours. You know, the stories he has, dude. Just the journey. I love here on that side of the hockey world.

Genuinely. I think it's so, I mean, I love interviewing the boys. obviously. I know. That is just such a cool path that he's had the things he's seen, the people he's met. It's special. It's so special. And I just love getting to do hockey talk like that and then getting the tidbits.

Yeah. Because you're getting the normal pod with an extra voice, but then you get tidbits of cool info like that. So cool, man. Great, dude. I got to go, us and him on the deck at the mist one of these summer days, we got to make that happen. We got to make that happen. We got to make that. Absolutely.

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my cock is off my body. I tweeted out. Compass pointing north. Compass not pointing at all. Compass gone. I tweeted out on Monday. I said, I'm going to see weapons later, and I'm prepared to have my cock blown off.

And so many people hit me up, and they were like this, oh, dude, prepare that cock. Get that cock ready to be blasted off your body. Score it. To smithereens. You can score it so it's an easier tear. When you're chopping down a tree, you do the notch on the other side. Score it.

So you know which way it's going to fall. I didn't even need to do that. It blew up like a stick of dynamite. Oh, hey, sorry. Spoilers. We are about to talk about weapons. Spoiler alert. If you haven't seen it yet, skip to the game at the end of this episode.

I'm back and listen to it. We're talking weapons. If you want to see it. And you haven't seen it, skip. There's your spoiler. Done. I, I freaking love this movie.

I thought it was fantastic. I was not prepared for how funny it was going to be. Oh my God, dude. Our boy Tom texted me, and he was like, he told me that. He goes, it's not a spoiler, but it's funnier than the trailer would make you think. Because the trailer looked horrific. You thought the trailer looked horrific? In a scary way.

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It did. The trailer, I actually played the trailer for Alice when we were in New York and I was like, let's go see a movie. What did we go see? We saw Naked Gun. Yeah.

Incredible. I played this weapons trailer for her and she was like, uh, I don't think I have that in me. And I was like, yeah, it looks spooky as shit. Turned out it was a fucking, it was an absolute riot. It's a horror comedy. It's a horror comedy. But it's, the horror is Spook City.

Yes. And then the comedy's lots of laughs. Lots of laughs. Dude, unbelievable. I fucking died a few times. Me too, me too, me too. The barbarian, for those of you that saw Barbarian, is also kind of funny.

Barbarian is definitely also kind of fun. Barbarian is freaky-diki, though. Well, Barbarian is bonkers by the end. Yeah. You know, it's like completely, I was talking to Armand. It's like, I want to say this too. I'm not a huge horror movie guy normally. Yeah, yeah.

I think I've always said that. but I've lately in life, I think I actually do like them more than I think, the good plot ones. Yeah. Because I'm just not a huge body horror guy. I don't mind the occasional rip this person to shreds, but when the whole movie's about that, I'm like, okay. Yeah. And I think there are a lot of horror movies with bad plots, unfortunately. But the ones with good plots, I'm like, I'm actually okay with this.

I get scared. That's why I didn't like them. But now I'm okay getting scared. You get spooked? Yeah, if the plot is good, though. I'm like, okay. Are you a in the theater? You're uncomfortable.

You're like covering your eyes. I'm literally like, oh, fuck. Palm sweating. Fuck, fuck. And then do you get nightmares? Yeah. And I also go like this. I look at the top corner of the movie screen.

You, you, bitch. Do you really? I just go like this. And then the whole theater goes, ah! And then I'd look down and I go, oh. And then. Wait, like a fake? Like you're trying to fit in?

No, no. It's still scaring me. I just didn't. At least I'm now. What if it's a jump scare and you missed it? I miss him on purpose, but it's still what I'm seeing is scary. Even if it's like a quick flash, like you didn't even see it. I guess I've missed a few really quick ones.

That is, you know, have you ever rewatched a horror movie in your life? Wow, great question. Probably. I don't know. What would you call a horror movie? Like not get out? Yeah, I wouldn't call get out horror. I'd call that a psychological thriller.

Zodiac. psychological thriller. Yeah, so maybe no. Yeah, like, have you ever rewatched The Conjuring? Maybe. I think I saw the ring more than once. Sinister. Because everyone was doing that.

Yeah, the ring was crazy. I think I saw the Babaduke twice. Will you rewatch this? I would rewatch this, yeah. I think I might as well. I guess, but yeah, maybe. But I loved it. I'm not saying I didn't like it.

Yeah, this was, let's get into it. What were your favorite parts? Okay, so yeah, we're going to. Hey, I got us. Hey, buddy, take the wheel. Drive me through this book. So for people that have, seen what we do with movies, we kind of

do some awards. And Baker, I want you in on this because you've also seen it. Yeah, it's going to say, we got producer Brian again, and he has seen the movie. So what we like to do is MVP of the movie, the Heart Trophy, LVP of the movie, Healthy Scratch. We're giving this the hockey award treatment. I love it. Best part, Shill's

moment, worst part, sent to the Mises moment. And then I've added, well, we keep our song, Keith the Endo Biggest laugh, because this actually was funny. And then I'm adding biggest scare, which I don't know what we should call that award yet. Um, overtime breakaway. Overtime breakaway.

I don't know why. I'm thinking like if it's the other team. You know, and I was actually thinking like a player, so I'm glad you did that. I was about to sewer somebody. Someone ugly. Someone scary.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. LVP. Of the movie. Yeah. Do you want to start with MVP? No, I like LVP. LVP of the movie,

The Healthy Scratch. Anyone come to mind, Baker? Oh, yeah. I've got an absolute lock. Okay. Do you guys want me to go? Yeah, go ahead. Let me get the character's name.

Actually, fuck, I have so much to say. Actually, we can't start with LEP. We can't? No. Okay, all right. I want to start actually with MVP. Okay, MVP of the film for me is... And it can be like fair character because you just thought he was cool.

It can be like, I thought he did the most in the movie. I'm going to go, my heart trophy winner, I'm going Alex Lilly. This fucking kid single-handedly keeping 17 students alive, feeding them Campbell's chicken noodle, keeping his parents alive, doing whatever he can to keep his parents alive and save them. Some would say he could have put a stop to that. Okay, that's where I was headed.

But he's a child. But and I really did appreciate the scene, the fork scene when she's like, I'll kill them if you tell anybody. If I'm in that kid, I go, okay, I won't tell anybody. Like I actually thought that was a completely fair reaction. Yeah, I had people being like, oh, why not just go tell the police, like, right away?

but as a kid like you have no you just this lady's a witch yeah she's a little a witch you think like if you tell someone she'll know somehow correct so hondo p yep all right who do you like MVP? I was honestly gonna say Alex too

because just when they were splitting it up between like chapters and like characters right when it showed like Alex's chapter I was like here we fucking go same dude I got fired up because I was like when it cut to him I was like this motherfucker about to be the most problematic bitch in this movie.

He's just a good... First of all, he's getting bullied in school and he comes home and he's still a homie with his dad. He's just like a good kid. He loves his family. Loves his family. Dude, you know what I laughed out loud at

in the theater when he's going through it? When he is souping people. It then cuts to him in class and he's just still doing his schoolwork. Like, he's staying dialed. He's not raising any alarm bells. The kid is fucking so committed to keeping his mom and dad alive.

Kick the grades up, dude. Yeah, he's keeping the grades up. It's unbelievable. He's making sure no one is looking at him. It's unbelievable, bro. He's got, he is resolute. It's unbelievable. Okay, dude, my MVP, and I flagged this early, and he doesn't come back.

So I was like, oh, well, maybe I got to rethink. But my MVP is, his name is Ed, and he is the chief of police. Dude, I thought Ed was. Can you believe this? So good, dude. When Brolin sat down and was losing his shit And Ed gives him his speech back And he was like, listen, we are pursuing everything

God forbid it was my child I'd be doing the same thing His answer to Brolin was so perfect From a chief of police in a horrific town situation Then his behavior with Paul When Paul has punched the kid When he's like, listen to me, dude We are going to bury this for a month

And then once Paul's a motherfucker And Ed glares out through the window I was like, Ed is the man dude And granted, I wrote this like a third of the way into the movie because that's when we were... Okay. But I was like, Ed is the best, dude. I've never seen a character handle every situation, which were all bad perfectly than Ed. In a movie where people were handling shit wrong, Ed was dialed, dude.

I love him. All right, are we moving on to LVP? Yes, because my LVP unfortunately might also be Ed. Okay. I was about to jump in and say, you're an idiot because the LVP... of this movie, dude. These so clear, obvious. What the fuck is the LVP called?

It's not the healthy scratch. Healthy Scratch. Healthy Scratch Captain Ed, dude. He's the worst captain in the world. Oh, my God, bro. We talked about it. Again, I loved this movie. But, brother, we talk about this.

He sits there. He has the audacity to tell Josh Brolin that shit. And then also, it's like, the fucking cop, Alden-Earon-Rick, Paul. He's like, dude, leave the fucking invixt. investigating to the investigators. Captain Ed's the head of that.

Captain Ed is heading that shit up, dude. And let me tell you what, bro. This shit goes down. Once we have seen what happens in this movie, I was talking about this. Juliet, is that her name? Justine. Justine.

Julia Garner's character. She's getting fucking witch hunted, literally, by this town. Why aren't people looking at fucking Alex Lilly, dude? Alex Lilly and his family Like they are suspects numeral Uno dude and what we find out Is that the mom's just gone

Yeah save for the worst part Fucking yeah like Judith comes through Or not Judith Jesus Christ Just deed no no no The crazy uh the crazy uh the Gladys Gladys comes through And I immediately Brian was like

Once this happens I'm like How the fuck like You're this shit's going on Are you not questioning Alex Lily's parents And then we see it Gladys is like, yeah, the husband had a stroke, so I'm here. And I'm like, where's the mom, dude? And the fact that Captain Ed isn't like, oh, the mom's just gone. The mom's gone all of a sudden. And we're just going to go, nope, this family's all good. Everything's fine here. And then like a day later,

all of the windows of the house are covered up with newspaper and the cops are like this. They're fine, dude. Don't look at that. Captain Ed is fire. You're the worst. You're terrible. I'm with you there because I don't know if we want to talk about plot holes, but like, that's the biggest one. like, bro, the only person you'd be investigating is Alex Lilly and his family. Dude, okay. Hold on. And Baker. Like, let's talk about the fact that there are 17, or 18 kids.

And this is a small town. So, like, everyone knows where Alex Lilly lived. People would be, like, what, there are houses next to you. We got to get into that. But that's my favorite part of this conversation. Give me your LVPs first. If you have any. I would probably just go on the same, the police station.

Yeah. The, whatever the fucking their town is called, PD. I also had, um, I thought Paul sucked. Yeah, he sucks. Not the performance, but Paul did so much bad stuff.

He only did bad stuff. He's supposed to be going to AA meetings. He gets, fucking cheats on his, like, fiance. His wife, I think. Obulate, no, but like they're trying to get pregnant. Yeah.

Fucking stabs himself. Like, handles the, he's, he's an adultering. He's, he's an adulterer. He is fucking on the sauce when he shouldn't be.

He is potentially has AIDS. Like, this guy stinks. And he's like punching. And he's turning off his fucking body cam and his car. Like, this guy's a shitty ass guy. Lying to everybody. Dude, Paul did so poorly. I kept being like, well, Paul will come around in one of these later ones. So Paul is big LVP for me. What'd you think about that? Well, I was going to say, like, when he gets murked at the end, like, I didn't give a shit. Because I'm like, you're the worst guy ever. And but then Justine's like standing over his, like, corpse, like, kind of like sad. And I'm like, why did you give a shit? Like, this dude's a scumbag. He just tried to kill you.

This guy stinks. And then this one's harsh, but Alex's mom I wrote down LVP. Oh, I don't think that's harsh at all. I love this take by you. Dude, because she goes, they're like, the husband is like, why don't we get to fucking have Gladys here? And she's like, well, you know, my mom

did this for her. So I'm already like, wait, was Gladys up in this bitch? Like, witching your mom this whole time? Yeah. And you, you invited her into this house, dude. You've done this. Let me tell you this, too. Gladys isn't fooling anyone Take one look at Gladys

and I'm like this You're suspect When they met with her and the dad And the dad just like glazed out Because he had a stroke I'm like this lady's a witch Clearly Put a pointy hat and give her a broom

This lady is clearly a witch She blew in here Yeah Yeah She just came in on our Nimbus 2001 So yeah That lady is clearly Up to no good

LVP's Paul the Bomb, Ed. Okay, best, best part of the movie. Like, it can be plot point or just shot or whatever. Like, this is the chills moment in our hockey stuff. Yeah. Best part of the movie. Best, well, what's in a movie like this, the best could mean a lot of things. Don't forget, we have biggest scare, so don't use it for that.

I'll go first while you guys think. Yeah, go first. I had two. One, when James the drug addict, continued robbing the house after he saw the comatose parents. Like when he sees them and he's like, oh, fuck. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah.

And then he goes, he walks up and he goes, you good? Yeah. You good. And then they don't react. And he goes like a silverware. Just like, he keeps going. Bro, do you know how fast I'd be out of that house? And he keeps going.

Yeah. He's robbing the house. That fucking killed me. And then to the, um, the kid, the end, the kids chasing Gladys, just how long it was and how funny like going through neighbor's houses and then crashing through walls and windows and like glass doors. That was just such a cool

scene. I feel like that scene will get talked about so much. I was like that was fucking awesome. No doubt. Including ripping her to shreds, which is amazing. Especially that kid chase scene was fucking hilarious. When the druggie kid is like weaponized and he's chasing after Josh Brullen in the house and Josh Brullen just keeps like tossing him

and then it goes like silent and then he gets back up screaming and he tosses him again. The two pigeon tosses are so funny. He, like, throws him over the kitchen island on one. Yeah. And it is funny because you're like, that kid probably weighs 120 pounds soaking wet.

And Josh Brolin's a brick shit house. So I'm like, that's what happened. It's so funny, dude. So, ah. Oh, my God. Uh, shit. I think, so best moment,

I, I loved piggybacking off of yours. The second Alex snaps that twig and Gladys goes, oh no. And then the race, the chase goes on. But then, and there is,

no way the director of this film did not have this in mind. Gladys going full Ferris Bueller through that town. And the fact that it was broad daylight made it funnier. Like that was a true fair, that had to have been a Ferris Bueller reference. Dude, it was fucking hysterical.

You say Craigger, right? Yeah, Craigger. Craigar said there's a lot of references where it's like, so I bet that was one. Or maybe not, but like, you know, it looks like it so much. Edd was telling us about the Vietnam girl. Yeah, yeah. about the run. And there's so many things of,

like the POV staircase shot is like Friday the 13th, I think, or one of those like OG. He pulls a lot from like really cool OG horror stuff that I thought was awesome. We, we, I think you were over there, Baker. We were talking about when Donna falls her into the liquor store and the camera's like

whipping every time they turn down in the aisle. And we can see Donna and like Donna looks crazy. Yeah, and you think she's like a mad parent or whatever. Those, I would also put in best part just like some of the shots were really, really cool in this to build it up. Definitely. It was a well-shot movie.

Okay, let's go to worst part plot holes. And by the way, all three of us loved this movie. Yes, yes. This shit talk segment is about to be It's just funny. Dude, okay, so Baker, here's my first one, which is minor, compared to the bigger one we're going to get to. My first

minor one is I loved how Brolin is mapping. Actually, really like that scene and he's like doing the cameras and he's mapping the houses and he draws lines and he's like I don't know he says this big circle and he goes to justine and he goes is anything in here you know important and she's like Alex's house like the literal only surviving she goes oh my god Alex Lily lives right here now to be fair she points kind of towards the edge of the circle okay that actually makes you but i'm still like like rolling so dialed with everything

and if I come on down those lines and I'm I'm like, oh, the kid, the living kids' house is here. That's my first stop, dude. I love how he's like, I don't actually know what is over here. That rattled me. That was bonkers. I'm going off of what we were talking about before. The way the Lilly family got off Scott Free is crazy town to me.

Once we got Alex's POV, I'm with you. I was like, fuck yeah, here we go. But then as things started developing, I was like, wait a minute. Are his parents full-on fucking veggie Tuesdays? weekend at Bernies before the cops come and talk to them and I thought for a minute maybe she was going to snap them out of it

and have them and then she was just like nope he is a full on vegetable and has fork holes in his fucking mug what kind of stroke is that guy looks like a cabbage patch doll with freckles all over his face

and the mom's just gone and the cops go like this everything checks out of the lily house that was crazy to me because I was like all right how are they going to do this then she makes all the kids run out of the basement was that night at least she made the kids run out at night no it was the middle of the day I feel like

I was night maybe and you're where could they have gone where did they go one on earth saw 17 kids like running around like psychopaths that part was nuts to me also to dial back to best parts one thing that we all forgot when the fucking kid breaks in the drug addict breaks in the house

when he goes into the basement and sees all the kids, that was a holy shit. Yeah, someone in my theater goes, no fucking way. I was like, dude, Sandra,

actually, the first time we saw that Alex's house, Sandra was like, I guarantee the kids are in that basement. Dude, I thought that too. Yeah. Just good,

well, when you see the, it's all boarded up in newspapers, I'm like, oh, they're in there. Yeah, really. That's another thing of what I'm saying.

The second, the second that house gets newspapered up on the windows, how the fuck, Captain Ed? How is no one like, we've got to look into this house? It's the one kid who didn't disappear and his house all of a sudden turns into Penny Wise's crib.

Go in there. What did you think? Is this still the worst part? Yeah, yeah. In the same vein, Alex Lilly is now like walking to school every day alone and getting 25 cans of soup a day. Dude, Baker. Brian.

No one at the grocery store is like, uh, Alex. What are you doing, pal? I said to Chris, this kid's going full on Kevin McAllister doing grocery shopping by himself, buying Campbell. He's cleaning the grocery store out of Campbell's products. No one is like this. Something weird is going on here. We should check into this kid.

I wrote that down too big. I go, The town has failed Alex, the elite, because he walks in and literally buys 19 cans of soup every day. And I'm like, somebody has to see that or works there or something. And they're like,

Alex is being weird as fuck. Weird as fuck. I don't know what's going on, but like we have to go there. And then to your guy's point, I'll even buy the like, I hid the kids and I hid the parents and we cleaned up. Like, it's already insane that the principal and the cops and everyone in town knows that Alex has two completely good and loving parents.

And all of a sudden, one has a stroke and one's gone and there's a freak clear witch here. Yeah. But I'll even. This woman, brother, when that, when that, when that woman, when Gladys walks into Benedict Wong's, Marcus's office. Yeah. Dude. You have to be like this. So let me get this straight.

Call the cops right away. Yeah, call. I found. Get them on speed dial, brother. This guy sits in that meeting and goes, so I asked for a meeting with the one surviving child's legal guardian and his parents don't show up, but this witch walks into my office. What are we talking?

I loved it. He goes, we haven't met before, right? I think you would remember, sir. Do you think you're going to forget that face? But yeah, so even ignoring the cops, like, that insane insanity is described, the next day. Like, you have Alex alone, never gets picked up, no Gladys, no nothing. And the next day, the cops literally never go back to the house ever. They went that first day and they were like, we're good.

They'd check out. Like, they got fucking, they're up Justine's ass. Ass. And they never checked on it. Like, even the speech that Marcus gives where he's like, we need to think about Alex. Let's all leave him alone. I'm like, no, let's take care of Alex. Can we talk about, too, the plot hole?

We haven't even mentioned this. You got parents like Josh Brolin, who's out here going full Hugh Jackman and prisoners, just wanting answers. He never thought to go talk to Alex Lilly's parents? Yeah, dude. You're telling me that Josh Brolin, with what he's up to, didn't go, well, I'm obviously going to go talk to the kid who's alive.

Like, what? What? Alex did was going through it, too. Like, he. That's why he's MVP. That's my heart, dude. Don't come in here. Don't come in here.

Don't follow me. This kid. This kid is made of tungsten steel. Dude, he's tough. Glad is fucking, yeah, she gave it to him. Dude, what, I'm actually just thinking this right now. What, how did the mythology work in your guy's mind? Like, if she, because I thought the first time we see her do it is with Marcus.

That was a gnarly scene, by the way, when he head butts his husband to death. Oh, my God. Gross sound effects right there. Brutal. But she gets his ribbon. Oh, his ribbon. She takes Marcus's ribbon. There's a scene when she's in his office.

I saw that. She looks over and there's a bunch of ribbons. And when she's doing her thing. She wraps his ribbon to the stick and then the husband's hair. Yes, she walks over and snips his hair. So it's like, kill, ribbon, kill hair. You need a possession of the person who you want to activate. Control.

And the hair of the person you want to. kill. So then she, then she does Justine's hair, so he's trying to kill her. Yes. And then later Alex goes, gets a snippet of her hair. Oh, and then activates all the kids. Because all the kids are activated, but already with that tree. Boom. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I buy that. Okay. Um, okay, let's do, uh, biggest laugh. Biggest lock. Easy, easy for me. I truly almost had to leave the theater. I was laughing so hard. And keep in mind, I had a jumper.

I had a Mexican jumping bean sitting next to me. This guy, every single jump scare. And we were in those recliners, like, feet up. This guy was jumping, like, kicking his legs. He was, like, firing elbows back. And I was like, relax, pal. And I was just, I was, I was locked. Didn't move a muscle.

And then when Josh Brolin is sleeping in his son's bed, in Matthew's bed, and he has it. you too this is mine me too dude dude me too when he oh it's everyone all the thing laugh when Josh Bolin has that nightmare sees the clown face

and he wakes up and he's like and then he's like scoches back into the corner of the bed and it cuts to a wide shot and he just goes what the fuck that was the funniest thing because Brian

I was so unprepared for that and I let out like a squeal laugh and then just couldn't stop. Because in scary movies, they never do that. Or like, if, if I'm, dude, if I have a nightmare and I see like a crazy clown-looking lady,

like, I'll wake up and be like, what the fuck was that? Yeah, I get mad at my brain. Yeah, I'd be like, what the fuck's going on?

But in scary movies, they never show, they just show them being like, like, flustered or whatever. I thought that was so funny. And it was like the first kind of like, hint of like,

a humor that we had. Dude, I died. I was like, that was fucking iconic. Um, there were more, though.

I mean, I had a bunch with James. Yeah, James. James was a bucket. Everything that kid said and did was real. I'm trying to remember one. I thought I wrote down one, but there's one. All of his excuses, the first time, like, Paul detains him.

He's like, I worked there. He's like, I work. Dude, he's on the phone with, like, a family member. He's like, I got the job. I need money to get clothes, and then I can pay mom back. Dude, did either of you think that James was Alex's brother the first time he broke into the house? Alex's brother.

Because he's on the phone and he's talking to, like, a family member. And then he just walks up to that house. Oh, I didn't think. I thought he saw the newspapers and was like, this house is abandoned. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, shit. Like, he's the brother maybe. And then once he saw them, it was like, sorry, sorry.

I was like, wait, he's in living. Yeah. And there was one where he goes, uh, he's calling him the kids. And he's like, I know where they are. And he's like, how do I get the cash, though? I was like, I just do need to. Because I don't want to come in. I don't, I don't trust police stations.

I'm phobic. I'm phobic. He was such a bucket. He was good. I also, um, fuck, man. there was one part that just killed. I died laughing too when he stabbed Paul in the face. What the fuck out of him?

Dude, okay, actually here's the question. Do you have AIDS? Yeah, this is kind of plot hole. Or then he was like, what about hepatitis? And he goes, shit, man, not that I know of him. Yeah, yeah. This is kind of plot wholly. Only because I thought it was going to matter more.

Yeah. When she first has the clown dream. Yeah. I was like, okay. Like, we're into something here. And I was like, and then Brolin starts to have the clown dream. I was like, yep, like everyone involved is going to have clown dreams. She's a witch.

Like, she's giving you these dreams. And then no one else has a clown dream ever. And I was kind of like, ah, that feels like you just put those in because those were easy jump scares. Yeah, I was a clown kid. I looked at that as, for me with a horror movie, I'm like, we need some spook. For sure. But I was like, I didn't know. I didn't like that they each had it.

I almost wish like just she had it, whatever. But then when you, when James sees Gladys in the woods, I was like, oh, fuck. But then I was like, was that her? was she out of the house, like fucking hunting him in the woods? In which case, I'm like, I don't know why. Like, that was kind of odd to me. You know, I thought it was all going to be mystical. I think every either vision or nightmare of Gladys was just spook factor.

Yeah, I think so, too. And I have no problem with that. And I will say, though, that did build because when they were like, Alex's parents are here. Because we hadn't met them yet. No, no. I assumed they were who Justine saw through the thing. But I was like, I don't know. So then to Marcus, they're like, hey, you're 230 here.

and he's like, send him in. And she's like, and he's like, oh, yes, send them in. And I was like, oh, nice, Alex's parents. And then through the fogged glass, you see a clown. And I was like, oh, dude. Yeah. That was gnarly. Sick, gnarly.

Good transition, good segue into give me your favorite. It doesn't have your favorite. Give me a couple of your favorite scares. For me, not even a, not even a jump scare. The Justine asleep in the car scene. Diabal wickle. Baker had a nightmare about it. Yeah. What was your nightmare? I just couldn't stop thinking about that scene.

And I woke up and then I tried to like, it's like don't think about elephants type of thing. Now it's all I'm thinking about is the demented like her walking and like standing over the car door just for a second. Then like you hear the back door click. Dude. Beautiful framing of that shot. Like her exiting the frame and then just hearing the door.

And then I, the walk up was so. So spooky. Even that door just being all black. Like you'd open that door and you just like can't see shit. That, by the way, was so well done. I'm getting chills right now. Yeah, yeah. Every time that door opened, it was kind of witchy.

Yes, dude. And it was just black behind it. So yeah, you're sitting there and then she walks out and you're like, oh, God. But dude, she stands by the window, leaves frame. Everyone in the theater is waiting for a window smash. Yeah, yeah. And then just hearing that noise of like the door opening. I, my theater was like, oh, I wanted to fucking unzip my skin.

Take it off like a wetsuit and hang it in the closet. I was so uncomfortable in that scene. I, it was that, you know, the rip in her gladys apart will be a horror scene talked about forever. I think so will this. Dude, that was some of the best decision making by a horror film director I've ever seen. That was awful. Correct. And you know me, like I said about the beginning.

I'm a melt in these movies. So do you see Barbarian? No, I got to watch now. You should see it. But there's a, you know when she finds the door? Yes. And she's like, I'm going to go down here. I was like, fuck, fuck.

In the theater, I'm literally like, fuck, fuck, fuck. So when that fucking chick is walking out, I was like, I'm doing like my leg crawl. I'm like, fuck, Christ, dude. Like, I don't want anything. My eyes. Yeah, literally. I want nothing to do with this. And then, dude, he got me, dude, because I was like, you know, side eyeing it.

And then she kept going. And I was like, okay, I'm, I'm, ready for the window smash, but I was kind of looking away because I just didn't want to see the window break. And then you just hear, which I can't hide from. And I was like, oh, no, dude, no. Horrible. Horrible.

I hated it. I should have seen this one coming, but Gladys being in the basement when Roland was looking for Matthew. Yeah. That fucked me. That was, that was Pennywise. Yeah, I thought he wasn't going to be there. I was like, oh, she took Matthew.

So I was like, I was waiting for, I thought he was just going to be. like he's not here. Yeah. So I just, I wasn't on edge. And then she was like, I saw that one coming. Like,

oh shit. The, you know what one didn't get? Again, I didn't physically jump. I, but I told CPI got the like adrenaline shot was the, um,

Gladys on the ceiling. Yeah, that's with Brolin, right? And, no, that's, I think that was Justine.

Oh, that is Justine. Oh, yeah, Justine. Oh, yeah, and then she's like, and then she, like,

lies down. She's like, yeah, because it was a second one coming too. because like, I feel like I've seen enough horror movies where I'm like, it's a misdirection where she's like, she looks ahead and then like, and then all of a sudden it's up. Yeah. Like, oh, fuck.

It wasn't a jump scare, but I thought Alex's parents being activated to chase Alex was like so like, just like creepy. That was disturbing. Yeah, I'm like, imagine your parents attacking you as like a child. And like they're trying. And they're trying to like kill you. Yeah, literally. And they're yelling. They're like screaming.

Yeah. Alex is goaded, dude. Well, it was, he was goaded in that scene. It was funny how many doors there was. Like it kept being like, oh, lock. And I was like, go get out of here, dude. God, damn. Goaded for his solution.

I will say, though, one knock on your two, your boy's boy, Alex. What was his last name, Lily? Lily. Alex Lilly. I keep saying Lily. I don't know if that's right. Baffling decision to step over the salt. Yeah, too.

Baffling decision. Yeah, true. Like, all hell is breaking loose downstairs. And he's like, what's the worst is going to happen? I don't know why he did that. Me neither. I think he was like, yeah, that was crazy. I wanted it to be like, I don't know.

I don't know what I wanted. I wanted him to be doing something like, mom, like, come on. Like trying to get them or something. You know, I don't know. I wanted it to be more accidental than him literally going, ting. And I'm like, dude.

It didn't even feel like an accident. No, he literally was like, I'm going to activate that. I was like, why, dude? He's at a loss. He was at a top time. I think genuinely he can hear the mayhem going. That was another, that was just a sound thing. There was so much calamity going on in that house.

And every time we were watching a scene with one person, you couldn't hear the calamity going on elsewhere. And I was like, this is a flaw. Yeah, yeah. There was, Alex's parents were trying to eat him like a Thanksgiving turkey upstairs. And Justine can't hear anything going on upstairs. At the end, she's like, Alex? I'm like, you didn't hear all that?

Dude, great ending of each POV, I thought. Like, every time they ended some, a character that we were looking at, it was right when I wanted to be like, I was like, oh, no, what the fuck? Yeah. I want to need more of that. You know, it was like smashed a black new name. And you're like, fuck. Yeah.

That was really sick. And also savage that they don't come back. Dude, can you believe that? Like at the end, they're like, yeah. The end, they're like, okay, Gladys is dead. And then they're like, Alex's parents are fucking Vegemite. Yeah, they get served soup by someone else. And when the line which you go, some of them even started to talk again about the kids.

I was like, some of them. I know. It's so creepy the way it ends so abruptly, but it's almost makes it like scary. Like, oh shit. Who was narrating, do you think? I was hoping we were going to find that out. I'm looking at the cast list, and it's just to, you know, they call her the narrator. And I don't think that she was any of the kids in the class.

I saw someone theorizing it was a kid on TikTok, but I didn't quite buy it. What do you say? It was just like. Oh, saying that like the narration is like a girl made a TikTok about this town or something. Someone on TikTok said that the girl narrator was one of the kids that was. Yeah, yeah. Like in the class. It was sick.

When she's like, some of them start talking again, she's being like me. Yeah, maybe. Dude, you know what I thought was going to happen? Or not like exactly was going to happen. But as that was going down, Alex activates the kids to get Gladys.

Yeah. And I was like, but Justine's still getting choked out and someone else is in trouble. I can't remember who. Or maybe not. Alex? Oh, yeah.

The parents are coming. And I was like, oh, I see. The kids are ripping her apart. And I was like, as soon as she dies, those are going to undo. Yeah. And which is what did happen. But in that moment, I was like, oh, this is going to be sick because Alex is now controlling the kids. You know, like, I thought the power had shifted there.

And I was like, oh, fuck, what are they going to have to do to Alex? Because then I'm not going to kill Alex, Lily, to get the kids back. But I was like, this is about to be sick. And then it just ends. And they're like, they don't come back. I was like, oh, damn. Damn. Damn.

Heavy. Heavy. Heavy. we also got to give a shout out to the first girl in the class who fucking form tackles Gladys because she gets there first is they're saying she's moving like Prime Ray Lewis

out there tracking like Brian Dawkins to get there too Oh yeah yeah yeah When you saw her getting ahead of the pack I was like this girl's also one where Gladys went left

and she was about to go left then she went through the window and I was like damn even though she's like weaponized she was like aware enough to like find her the same thought I was finding the right route

I was like dude that's bullshit she's like a heat seeking missile she would have gone that that's what I'm telling you bro and then she cut the corner and I was like she's an angle she's an athlete dude she's taking the right angle you know you don't you don't straight line I gotta watch that again to see who was last what fucking punk ass came up last dude

probably Matthew yeah yeah about that fucking clown ain't talking dude I love that by the way they kind of like we feel for brolin and we want him to get his kid back but Matthew's such a prick yeah and I'm like dude do we gonna address this I you know what I thought thought there was that in the Brolin scene when he's like trying to talk he he I think he's having his dream he's has that line where he's talking to me he's like I should have said it more times and you're clearly like oh this is the dad who can't say I love you to the son and then not saying

I love you there at the end still I was like brolin oh interesting yeah guy speak up dog get it together speak up might never get another chance yeah um sick movie sick fucking and couldn't be uh edge is not just a TikTok I'm pumped or I guess I should say I'm more pumped that he has Resident Evil. I'm more pumped about Resident Evil than I would have been based on his track record now. I know. Me too, I think.

And listen, I'm going to watch it. I just love original shit. Give me more original shit. He said he was pulling all original shit for it, though. Like, he was like, I'm going to tell my own story. And also like kind of funny Resident Evil. Yeah. Be cool.

Huge shout out Justin Long, too. Hey, 2025. Dude, he got like a standing ovation when he popped up on the screen. He was so pumped. I forget what he says, but he goes like, he has one line to start. And it was so funny, because it's something simple. He's like, hi.

Yeah, I think he's a little upfront. That was funny too because Brolin approached his wife first, and she's like, no way I'm letting to the camera. Yeah. And then like, Brian, when she's just in the living room watching the footage too, I was like, you know she's staring daggers into Brolin's back. Like, you fuck it. That was hilarious.

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First question is pretty tough, and if he gets it right, he gets 10 points. Next one's a little easier. If he gets ready, he gets 8, 6, 4, 2. I don't do one because you don't deserve it. Are you ready, sir? Yes, I am. We're starting with question. number one for 10 points.

This former first overall pick won O-HL and CHL rookie of the year when he posted 76 points with the... Excuse me. With the Sioux-St. Marie Greyhounds. 76 points in one season? Points? Bro acting like that's going to give him it. Points? Yeah.

That's not even that many. Are you fucking high? It's an OHL season. There's like 38 games. I feel like Gab McHenna had like 168 fucking won. Who was his rookie year? Gabbynna? Is that your guess?

No. Bro, I haven't even been drafted. First overall picks, and he won rookie. He won O-HL and CHL rookie of the year. Rookie of the year. When he posted 76 points with the Sioux-Saint-Marie Greyhans. Okay, I don't know. For eight points.

After winning the Art Ross, this player was the cover athlete of NHL 2K 2000? No NHL 2K was a different game. Oh oh oh oh yeah fucking dumbass I was like what Okay so cover athlete of NHL 2K he's a Canadian kid He went first overall and he won Art Ross First overall Canadian

To win Art Ross I'm gonna try to go through some Art Rosses in my mind really quickly I got one that I can think of I got two but I don't think he was on Sue St. Marie. I got... He's Russian, so not him. He's also Russian.

He's also Russian. I got him. He's Canadian. I think the hint here is that after the season he won the Art Ross. He was then on the cover of NHL 2K. That guy went first. That guy went first. That guy went first. Okay. I don't have a guess yet, but I...

Okay. Yep. I think you could get this one here. for six points. He is the only player in NHL history to win the Hart Memorial Trophy or the Art Ross in a single season while playing for more than one team.

Ooh, sick. Okay, so he won the heart, you can win the heart or the Art Ross, but you played for more than one team during that season. Only player to ever do it. Okay, that's incredible. I know a person, this wasn't who I just had.

I can think of a person who is Canadian who went first overall. I can't remember if he played for Sue St. Marie, so I don't know if he hit that. And I definitely don't know if he was on the cover of 2K. But I'm pretty sure he won the heart in a year he got traded. So this could be the first zero, but I want to guess.

Okay. My guess is Jumbo Joe Thornton. Correct. Yes, God. Well done. And question four was sitting 14th all time with 1,539 points. This eight-time All-Star and 2010 Olympic gold medalist somehow does not have a cup in his career playing for the Bruins, Sharks, Maple Leafs, and Panthers. Okay, I would have got that for sure.

And then question two, he's known around the league and the hockey world as jumbo. Dude, he won the heart and Art Ross in that same season. Really? Yeah. Can you imagine? If that is not a sank moment for the Boston Bruins. Of which they have had many. Many. It's like there was literally one guy to have ever done this. He's having a heart

Memorial Trophy season and you trade him. And you got not a lot of great stuff for him. Oh my God. Shout out Marco Stern. Now the head coach of the Boston Bruins. Yeah. So we got that. That's kind of funny. Great job. Great episode. Great movie and weapons. Go see it. Beautiful stuff from Dave Gosher. Thank you so much. Guys, we've got great interviews coming up. We've got more fun stuff. You know what to do. Follow us on all social. Subscribe to the YouTube, you sons of bitches. I know not all of you are subscribed. Send this stuff around to friends. Go buy some merch. Bang. You're not wearing any merch. No. You got a good fit on today, though. Thanks.

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