Empty Netters Podcast - The Habs Hit Another Level And The Avs Finally Bleed

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

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Back with another episode of the MTV netters podcast live, brought to you by BetMGM. We are here Monday morning after a great weekend of action, and CP is not hung over, but he is tired. As always. So last night, folks, the amazing Anaheim Ducks sent us a great invitation to drive down to Anaheim, come to the game, get to see the ducks, and Vegas Golden Knights play in a wonderful game. great time. On the drive down, CP's telling me how tired he is. Exhaust.

He's like, I'm so wiped. I'm absolutely exhausted. And I walk in here this morning. I ran in here this morning. If you can see me, I'm a little sweaty. Sorry about that. And no offense.

But I take one look at CP. He looks wiped. And then he tells me that, are you just standing right in front of my camera? That camera's on on. Maybe. Then he tells me that he went to sleep at 2 in the morning last night. And let me tell you, we got back.

I drove to my house where Chris's car was. I get out. Actually, Ubered. I did. I wasn't going to correct. It's like 10.45. And I'm like, all right. Go to bed.

Sleepy boy, Dan. Chris is like, I'm headed home. Going to go to sleep as well. I'm wiped. What happened? Two things happened. Two things happen simultaneously. One, my fiancé had been out of town for a week.

Why don't you brag about it, dude? Let them know, dude. Why don't you brag about it? Let them know. Hey, put a fucking ring on it. If you care, fellas. If you fucking like her, you put a ring on it. She had been gone for a week.

And we saw her for lunch very briefly. Yes. You know, you just, it's like, hey, how was it? How was everything? Tell me all about your travels. Yep. So there was a lot of chatting to do. And then two, and this, this fucked me, dude.

This just fucked me. So on Saturday, dude, Saturday, I was like, I'm also gonna chill. Yeah. And then, you know, I run into these guys and I go to here and then I go to there and then I go to there and then I go to there. And then Lox goes,

I want Taco Bell at yours before I leave. So I go, okay, we put on, where we order Taco Bell, it's going to take 80 hours to get here. And Lox goes, have you seen Beast Games season two? That is the ultimate Lox. Like, I could see that in a heartbeat.

Danny is also a big Minecraft Let's Play guy I've watched Minecraft Let's play with Danny at 6 a.m. before. Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? So, Lox goes like this, bro. Lox goes, dude, put on beast games. And he jumps me to like an episode in the middle and he goes, you will not fucking believe this.

I go, have you seen this already? And he goes, yeah. So he puts it on. And I'm like, catch me up. I don't know anything. And he's like, it doesn't matter at all. So he fucking puts it on and then goes like this, bro. see you later and just sleeps till the Taco Bell gets here and I'm now dialed into

B-skips so then we watch till like three Epps left from the finale and then I live my life Sunday I get back and Sandra's like I'm like how was your week and she tells me all these amazing things that she did in back in her hometown and then she goes how was your weekend and I go listen to this and I tell her the plot of Beast Games season two up until where I got that's my only update from the weekend and she goes holy shit do we put it on and I go

no oh yeah you are fucking kidding me we watched the end of Beast game season two till 2 a.m and now here I am in hell she loves you there is no doubt in my mind that she loves you because that is a lot Chris and Sandra

are two of the dumbest people I've ever met in my entire life It's unbelievable how You are both so tired all the time Oh yeah And every day when I see you And you both look like corpses It looks like I'm turning on the mummy four

The resurrection of CP and Sandra Yeah And I go, what happened You guys could have been in bed at nine And Sandra goes, oh, Chris decided to tell me the entire plot of a book he just read, and we went to bed at 4 a.m. Yep.

And I'm like, why don't you just go to bed? I texted Lox earlier in the night last night, and I said, tell me how Beast Game Season 2 ends right now, because you've ruined my life, and I don't have time for this. And he didn't tell you. He just sent back a ton of those cry laughing faces. So then I had to watch myself. And it's his fault, dude.

No. you relying on a brain dead buffoon a chimpanzee to tell you the end of a story and then being shocked that he didn't that man has the worst attention span of anyone you know you think he was going to type out the ending of an entire series to you

remember he doesn't even remember no he doesn't even remember what happened so this is completely your fault this is a hockey show let's start talking about hockey the Montreal Canadians put a fucking beat down on the Sabres. I mean, it's a massive weekend for the Habs. A massive weekend for the Habs. In game

one, that was the 5-1 game, right? Game one they hammered the Sabres. Or game one of the weekend. I was like and they it was just an all-time

bad game. Yeah. For Tage for the Sabres. I mean like we, and that's not even that that of a thing we saw that happen to jackson lecombe in whatever game that was yeah yeah yeah i tighten it up i fell down yeah that was crazy that was crazy that one i was like dude what are you are you are right it's actually funny because we'll get to this later but when quinn hughes scores that goal in game three and he's doing the the mohawk you know he just he looks like he's like figure skating it looks like he's yeah oh yeah oh yeah ballet out on the ice i'm like how's he

moving like that and then it's like bang goal. Yeah. And it was like, it was like, Tage was going into one of those maneuvers and then was like, I am too big for this. Yes.

And my legs do not work. And then fell down. And then it's one of those where you go, as long as they don't score here. We're going to be okay. Everything is fine. And they're like, ping,

you're dead. Yeah. So, yeah, not good. But I wasn't that. Oh, Zach. We're on Buffalo, Montreal. Yeah.

Oh, at the bottom. Update me on the bottom here, I was like, it says habs. The, I was in that phase. Like, I even texted you and a couple guys, but I like this loss for Buffalo. Buffalo needed this loss. You live in game one.

Everyone's fucking flying high. Everyone's buzzing. Sometimes you've got to go, hey, it's playoffs, dude. This is not going to be easy because it isn't going to be easy. So I didn't actually mind the loss that badly. But then you go to game three. in Montreal, and Lindy Ruff said this, dude, you get the exact start. He goes, how do you take the crowd out of it?

How do you take the raucous bell center crowd out? You score, get one in the back of their net immediately. Yeah. Not only did they score 50 seconds in, but also it's tage, which is amazing, literal dream start. So I was like, oh, wow, this is fantastic. Yep. But then they get absolutely popped daddy again. Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that is,

Lindy's right scoring early and first is a good way to rattle the crowd but as we've seen in Edmonton as we've seen in Montreal you're not going to take the crowd out with one goal

and it's great that you got the goal it was kind of a weird bounce like you know whatever it doesn't matter Tage gets a goal gets on the score sheet and you're up one nothing but one goal ain't going to cut it correct certainly not and then Montreal comes

back new hook who is red fucking hot what is he doing he is red hot dude he had two goals last night he had a goal of the game before two two two two two he is back to back two goals games yeah and uh dude i'm i am officially worried if i'm buffalo oh yeah same i'm officially worried because you did keep saying you were like i'm fine with this loss for buffalo i was not fine with that loss for buffalo because i i don't want to say i knew i had a feeling that Montreal would win in the first game in the bell center. It's just you got to give them credit, got to give those Habs fans credit. They go fucking nuclear and so do Buffalo fans.

But we got a second round here in Montreal for the first time in a little bit. Knew they were going to be wild. You also have the stat that Montreal has not lost back-to-back games. Like they always respond with a win so far in these playoffs. So it was a big time, all right, you know, you got to be prepared. to get slapped in the mouth here. They just won in game two. You should steal this one if you can, Buffalo,

but it was always going to be a tough mountain to climb, and they got shalacked. Yes. They got pistol whipped, dude. They did, because I'm with you. I had game three as a loss anyway. And I mean, because, dude, it's so hard being a fan in playoffs.

I get it. Trust me. But this is kind of how it goes, where you go, the habs, it's hard to get two at home to start a series, right, unless you're really superior. It's hard.

Yeah. So you kind of expect to split. And then you expect, or at least for my POV as a fan, I go, I expect to lose game three when it's like this. Yeah. Which means now you have a super high pressure game four. Yeah. But if you just win that, you are more than fine because now you go, we're going to win this. We just won the series because now it's best of three.

I have two at home. Like, yes, game four is so tense. But like if you win that game, you are in the driver seat. and will likely win the series. Yeah. So it's, you know, everything is going exactly how I assumed it was going to go. I assume Buffalo will win game for,

and then now we're in a dog fight. Sounds good. So they should, they still, the literal win and loss isn't that weird to me. I'm like, yep,

this is pretty much how I tracked it to. It's the nature of their two losses. Yeah, five goals on Friday, six goals yesterday. Yep. So it brings us to the big question, does UPL start next game? And we had said this, I guess they hadn't even lost yet,

but I had asked you like, you know, what would even happen? And I was like, you know what? You were proven right, because I was like, I said what would happen if they got pounded in game two? They did. And I was like, would you do anything? And you were like, I absolutely not. I wouldn't.

And they didn't. But then you got pounded again. Man, this is my TED talk. I've been saying since the very beginning of this show. and I always say it if you swap goalies you cannot win a Stanley Cup I've proven this wrong though

like we look this up did we though because I don't think you're right tell me the team oh dude it's like the two teams ever before Tim Thomas Tim Thomas never left the net and then only two cup winners since him had that goalie never leave the net

no no that's not that's not my thesis My thesis is if you start different goalies more than once. Getting yanked in games, that is not the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's fine. Like, you can get yanked because it's like, oh, this game's out of hand. Exactly. I need the right.

But starting a different goalie multiple times. And I mean multiple. I mean like, so right now, if Buffalo starts UPL again, that means you have had three swaps. Yeah. Like if you, and the one outlier, again, I'm not saying I'm right. This is my TED Talk. in my hairbrain schemes and thoughts. But Vegas is the big one.

That was all injury-based. Yeah, I mean, the Panthers started lying. And lost the cup. And then lost the cup, yeah. Edmonton. They went back and forth both years, back-to-back years. Then they lose the cup. You can get there, but you lose the cup.

And then you started Frankie for like that whole Western Conference finals. When they won? Yep. But then they didn't go back and forth, right? Like they had Kemper Kempir Frankie and then Kemper finished And that wasn't an injury It might have been

I feel like that was an injury Someone in the chat Avs fans let me know Was that an injury Because that'll be a big punch In the teeth for me But I do think it is And even if there are

Examples where it has happened It is way less Than the other way Yeah yeah So I'm saying when you're doing this I immediately have doubt sewed into my mind about your team. So, like, if you...

The Buffalo's already dead, because they started just... Unless they stick with Lion. Unless they go, it doesn't fucking matter. We're starting Lion. And then, like, then, if they come back in game four and Lion pitches a shutout or, or, you know, a great game and they win, I'm like, wow, fucking well done Lindy being like,

I'm sticking with the guy. Uh-huh. And well done Lion for bouncing back here. but if you start UPL in this game and you lose, you're dead. And it's just like it's always complicated. It's like I think we'll get to it. But Walsh did going back in the net for Minnesota and having maybe the best performance of his playoff so far was so drastically important for Minnesota. Yep.

So this. Does that mean they're dead? No, because they've only done it once. I mean, or they did go back. That's actually fair. So yeah, they're dead. Minnesota's dead. Yep.

Based on this thesis. Yep. Now I'm not saying that's going to come true. Yeah. But if they lose, that's why. Yes. And I actually,

Dan, think that you should extend it to once. Like, I, I don't totally... Well, No, because, like,

sometimes it's like, if you... No, dude. If you're the guy, if you're are my goalie. But sometimes you don't know. Sometimes there's a situation where it's like,

we've got two goalies. We don't really know who's the guy. And you make one switch and then that second guy is like this, I am dope. I do believe because if, again, I'm not saying that's going to get you a win, but it can get you a win because if that goalie then goes in and they continue winning, that is a goalie showing his defense, showing his team and himself that I'm the guy.

It should have been you. Yeah. But if you suck and then you get yanked too, then I'm like, yes, you guys are dead now. Because both of you, both goalies have now been yanked because they suck. Yep. Okay. And Zach, how's my audio in your mic? Because, oh, God, here we go.

I know. It's so funny because everyone is his mic is up all the way. Chris, you can't hear you. And I'm like, we audio test these over and over. And it's always you. Like, you know, our ear headphones, it is so loud. So I don't know why everyone's like. It's either I am talking so loud or you are a tired bitch and you've lost your voice and you talk so quietly.

It's blowing him out. This exact voice is blowing out the headphones. We have his mic as high as it can go. It is all the way up right now. It was an injury. Thank you, chat. Darcy got pulled because of an inch. injury and then he went back in the net so that doesn't count yeah okay shout out chat come

so yeah if you are losing so many games that you're swapping goalies like fucking trading cards then yes you're not going to win the cup because no shit you already blow and you fucking put in three different goalies you you're talking to me like a little bitch as if you're like mad about this thesis and you're being like well no shit dan you're an idiot well i don't think you're an idiot but i do think if any team it makes sense okay but my point is teams like fans like oilish fans the last couple of years this is going on and they're being like this we're still going to win and i'm like no you're not yeah you don't because you don't have the goalie to get it done yep that is my point like i think more people need to be aware of this if this is happening

it is, and again, everything on this show is said with Jess and for the most part. So we're being hyperbolic and having some fun here on a Monday morning. But if I'm a Sabres fan, Chris,

my point being, I am very nervous now. Yeah. Because if I'm a Sabres fan with this knowledge of the past, you've got to look at this because this is not said with Just.

It is super important to players who the goal is, is behind you, especially defense. It is so important to know who's behind you, how they play, what their mental state is, how confident they are, and it changes the way you play as a defenseman. There are, a great example is a two-on-one. If you've got a goalie who's fucking locked in and I'm the defenseman coming back on a two-on-one,

I will so heavily cheat to take away the pass and give my goalie the shot, knowing that he's dialed and locked in. If you're a defenseman in that situation and you have a goalie who just got yanked and you've got a cold goalie in net now, you're thinking about that. No question about it. 100%. So it's like it's huge to know who's who's in the cage behind you. Dude. Or go on.

No, that's, that's, that's all it is. I actually wonder if this will, if this will change soon, or not change, but like there might be examples to, to combat this thesis. because one thing you have also said a lot is people go, like here's my larger point, Dan, the sabers of the world are going, we aren't going to win the cup, or we might not win the cup because, God, we've been questioned, like, who do I, sorry, UPL, Lyon.

And I'm going, you're not, and you're not saying this either, but you're not losing the cup because you're goalie switching. You're losing the cup because neither of these goalies can win a cup. So you can switch all you want, or they could have played one the whole time, and they are not going to do it. Yeah, it's not the switch that's the issue. You don't have the goalie play to win a cup. And you always say, everyone's like, well, that's kind of changing. And you're like, what's the example?

Kemper in Colorado? He's a Vezna finalist. Yes. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Correct. It is literally go down the line. I'll even throw in St. Louis because of what Binner does in big games. Correct.

I'm like, you know, you only win the cup if you have a good goal. There is no example of we don't have a good goalie. So the teams flopping are losing not because of the flop, but because you're debating between Jean-Luc Picard and Stu Skinner. You were dead no matter what. You could have started one the whole time. There's a chance this does change with teams like, I'll put this Minnesota Wild team in right now.

This team can win a cup by starting these goals back and forth. This Colorado Avalanche team, like Bednar said he might start Blackwood in game four. if he does and then they go back to Wedgwood, they can still win a cup. I frankly agree. And I would be fucking shocked and appalled if they start Blackwood after that game. I would be shocked and appalled if they start Blackwood.

We'll get to that. But point being that 2023 Bruins team could have won a cup with Swayman and Allmark trading games. You know, I think this might change moving forward because there are teams that can do it. And the teams that haven't done it couldn't have won anyway. You know what this is, man? This is like a chicken or the egg thing.

Yes. Because right, what you just said, you were like, that Bruins team could have won going back and forth with Sway and Olmark. And I'm sitting here going, no, they couldn't have. Yeah. And we'll never know. Will we, I hope Blackwood starts so badly. Yes.

Because now I'm like, there we'll find out. But you know what's frustrating to me is like if Blackwood starts. And what do you think? Like, because my point is we'll never find out because it is the height of insanity to keep switching goalies if you're winning. Yeah. So the only way we could ever find out if this works is if let's say Colorado goes, we're starting Blackwood. And then Colorado wins the next two games. Then they get to the Western Conference Final against whomever.

Yeah. And they lose the first two games. And they go, we're starting Wedgwood now. Yep. And then they win three. And then they lose one. And then they go, we're starting Blackwood now. And then they win.

And then they go to the cup. You know, like, it's the amount of switching would just be so insane. And it would be so, in my opinion, lucky to still win while you're doing that. So I'm like, I just don't think it would ever happen. And the other side of it is they put in Blackwood and they win two games. You then keep playing Blackwood. Unless you just go, dude, I need to give this guy some rest. But Wedgwood needs a little break.

And yes. And my point is we have literally never seen. that in the history of the Stanley Cup playoffs. Yes. That's why I think it is such a dangerous game for a coach to go, you know what I'm going to do? Something no one's ever done before. But something we have done all year.

But dude, every fucking team does that now. And again, you're right. I'm not arguing with you on if that happens in the regular season. But it never happens in the playoffs. It has never been successful in the playoffs. Part of it is because no one's done it. But my thing is, I've not played in the NHL. I've not played in Stanley Cup playoffs.

I would have to fucking imagine when you are a team in the Stanley Cup playoffs and you're rolling, that goalie is going, I'm fine. And we're winning. Keep playing me. Like, imagine how much of a fucking bitch you would have to be to be in the Stanley Cup playoffs and go, I'm tired, boss. Get me out. Yeah. That's insane. You would never, but it's up to the coach to go, you are tired and you are sitting down.

But, yes, but again, every Stanley Cup winning team before that, not doing that is a tough thing for a co-le coach to be like this. You know what we should do? Yeah. Is fucking throw off all the vibes every two games and pull the goalie. And like you've always said, if anyone's going to do that, you have to do it round one. You have to do it round one to establish it and get your players ready for it. And no one has done it. Yep.

Someone in the chat says, hold on, I lost it. Oh, yeah, here we go. Being Jennifer says according to the internet The last team to win a cup with a goalie tandem Not due to injury was the 1972 Bruins Jerry Chevers and Eddie Johnson split time What is that person's name? Being Jennifer being Jennifer

You're the fucking best That is such an unbelievable find I don't know how you found that But you're fucking incredible And that's nuts 72 It's crazy But Dan here's a great point though

Like if I don't think Or maybe you would only count it this way I don't think they need to go keep going back and forth. I think it is just a rest thing. For example, the wild, if the wild come back and beat Colorado, they are the best team left if that happens. Carolina fans actually have something to say about that.

But point being, the wild could easily win the Stanley Cup if they come back and beat Colorado. Oh, yes. And they will have done this. They'll have gone, oh, we just played Gus again. That's true. And then we went back and I'm like, you were the favorite. This is fine.

It's one, well, are you saying that they will have technically done this if Walsstead stays in? Yeah. Because they went Walshstead, one game of Gus back to Walsstead, Wollstead forever. That would technically be this. No, not technically. I'm not going to do that. That would absolutely be an example of this happening. And this is more what I mean.

I don't think, or we probably will never see a you for four, now you for four? Yeah. I'm more meaning like, we have a guy, but he needs a break. A break. So you are playing one game. You know what's funny, though? I always hate that because I thought the gust start was crazy. Yeah.

I thought it was crazy and I thought it was disrespectful. Because both goalies got plugged. Yep. And you were like, we're going to set ours. And then you lost pretty badly again. And that's why I think, let's save that talk for the next series. I know there's tons of Buffalo and Montreal fans being like, what the fuck? Yeah.

So let's save that talk. All right. Buffalo, Montreal, let's stay on it. We'll stay on goalies for a second then, because I want to say this. I think coming into game one of this Buffalo Montreal series, we both said, if Dobish looks incredible again, oh, my God, the habs are going to fucking, we both picked habs and seven. This could be over in five if he looks incredible again.

And then game one happened and I went, whoa, maybe it was lying the whole time. Holy shit. And now after these last two Doebus performances, I'm like, nope, we are actually in big trouble. Dobish is nasty. 100% and again, I always preface this because I know people are going to go, no shit, Sherlock. Game four is must win for Buffalo, right? Yeah, because you just can't. Game four is must win for Buffalo, dude.

Actually, no. I don't think, and I only, I'm only caveat because, for example, we have said many times, if you lose, if you go down 3-0 to Colorado, you have lost because they literally will not lose four games in a row. And I mean that. Yep. I don't, Buffalo could win three games in a row. So I'm not going to stamp it must win in the same way I had Minnesota game three must win. Minnesota game three was literally must win because this is over.

This game isn't must win, but you are up against it. You are bent over the barrel, my friend, if you lose game four. I think it's must win because of how these two games have gone. That first game was so huge for Buffalo. Montreal responds as they've done all playoffs and they don't lose two in a row, they tie it up. Then they go to the bell center and they beat the fucking wheels off you.

And they beat the wheels off you. And the reason I think game four is an absolute must win for Buffalo is because Dobesh, who was the difference maker in round one, had a 966 save percentage in game two and a 929 in game three. Yep. The two monumental performances. Oh, my God.

Frankly, the Rosmiss-Dalien goal last night was huge. Yes. It was huge for the, you just got to see some go in. Yep. You have to see some go in. And in that game,

dude, fuck me. Dobesh was all over them. And a peeper too, which was nice. All over them. And Montreal scored four unanswered goals against you.

And it was just like, dude, this is brutal. He gets that goal at the end of the second on a power play, also good. It was just good to be like, okay,

like we can score on this. guy. Yep. But again, I know one was an empty net, but Montreal coming out and Doc kind of stays going here. T-scorby Doc is the fucking man, dude. He gets a second of the game, two goals in a row in two games, an empty-netter. It was just like- Incredible. Hey, I think maybe that's, or there was one last year we should have got, but that was to get paid on a awarded, like, you know, because they just like, if you get hooked to an empty net, they just give you the goal. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, yes. That was nice. Dude, that was awesome. Yeah, it's just, if I'm Buffalo, I am absolutely back, is up against it.

I'm feeling a little stressed because this is also, and listen, we've seen it. We just saw Anaheim do it last night, which we'll get to. But that game by Montreal, for me, for my money, and I'm curious what Habs fans in the chat think, I personally thought that was the best game that Montreal Canadiens have played these playoffs. This one that just happened? I thought last night was a master class. by Lane Hudson. Lane Hudson was fucking flying last night.

Everything he wanted to do, he was doing. The shot fake on the Cole goal. Oh my God, that is so gross, dude. That is so gross. And dude, and to get it over to Cole, too, you know, you want to get him going in a big way to have him see one go in off just that disgusting play. It was so awesome.

I also, I'm going to say here, Habs fans are efficient. back online. Yep. I mean, I, it's, we've seen in this show a lot. A lot of different Canadian team fan bases can be a little crazy during playoffs. I don't know what it. I love the Canadians fans.

They're so funny and insane and pretentious, but it's like not an, I don't know why. It doesn't annoy me. I love that, dude. I think they're so funny. They're so arrogant, but it's always done with Jet. Like, they know they're being arrogant. and I just think it's... They're French, too.

I fucking love Canadians fans online. They're nuts. And we're getting a lot... These are the ones that I believe are in jest. The amount of... It's not a debate. Lane Hudson is better than Cal McCarr. Tweets I saw last night were...

And again, they were meant to be shit-stirring. Yep. So I was like, this is hilarious. It's awesome. Dude, the... I give Habs... Well, the Habs team, certainly, but Habs fans a lot of credit

because when we launched the bracket challenge, so many people had the HABs going all the way. And it's all HABs fans. Yeah. And they're like, shout out Las. Las has the HABs in the final. That's great pick. And so many people texting me, tweeting at me, showing me these pictures.

And they were like, keep doubting us. Like, you think Tampa's going to beat us. And I'm like, the whole world thinks Tampa's going to be. And now I'm like, oh, my God, you are actually going to the final. And that is crazy. But I give them credit because they were on it so early. And of course you are, you're a fan. But usually as a fan, you kind of go, well, maybe we'll run around or two.

Maybe we upset Tampa and then lose. But they saw the vision. They saw the vision the whole way. And again, I said this on this very program, once Marty St. Louis started doing Wolf Wall Street in the locker room, I, dude, get fucking stamp a CH on my forehead. Holy hell, that was incredible. It's incredible. this team is incredible and so fun

and I'm gonna be honest going into this season I think we both had them pretty high in the Atlantic I think I had them you had them wild card or something no yeah I had them having like one of those come back to earth seasons they that the

Canadians dude are way ahead of schedule oh my God way ahead of schedule this the rebuild retool whatever the come up of the Habs team the fact that Zook had 100 points this year. Cole scored 50 goals this year.

That's so sick. It's all so unbelievable. You go and get Dobson, who I thought has been a great addition. Lane Hudson has taken yet another jump. He's one of the best defensemen in the league. The big one for me is who is going to be your goalie with Montembow last year? And it was like Dobesh was there,

but it was like who was going to be the guy? And I'm the biggest foul way in the world. And then you got this fucking kid. You listening to Dobesh's post game last night, talking about the crowd, talking about the vibe in Bell Center, and also just the vibes on this team. You now have two, because I think Fowler is a certified blue chip goalie. Yeah. You now have fucking him and Dovesh. Yep.

And I'm like, this is an embarrassment of riches with this team. It's crazy, dude. It's crazy how ahead of schedule they are. And one billion percent in Buffalo, we're going to, don't worry, we're not counting you out. but every single Haps fan on earth right now should have the confidence of not only can we go to the cup we can play with anyone in the cup. We can play with Colorado, Minnesota, Vegas,

it doesn't matter. I can't believe how much fun every Habs fan must be having right now because this team is so ahead of schedule and they're fucking firing. Yeah. It's amazing. No, it's a...

This is the moment. Look at Marty. Look at Marty. Marty doing a full Leo DeCaptain. Wolf of Wall Street. Look at how much funny he's happened. And the boys are loving it. The boys are absolutely loving it.

God damn, dude. Yeah, they're doing something right now. They're doing something very, very legit. Game four must win for Dan, not must win for me, but it's a serious, serious situation. First back-to-back loss is for the Sabres. First road loss for the Sabres. First road loss for the Sabres, which is wild.

such a tough look for Boston, Jesus Christ. But for the Sabres, yeah. I mean, listen, I think the Sabres have been fantastic. They are fantastic. I think Game 4 is 100% must win for that team. And I know Tage scored in that game, but like, Tage, you have to have a huge game in game 4. Yes. You have to have a huge game in game 4.

I'd love to see Tuck kind of come alive here in game 4, too. But a big, big, big question for Lindy Ruff and the Buffalo Sabres. Are you starting UPL? Are you starting a lion? And how do you steal a game in Montreal, in the raucous bell center? Because you know as well that Montreal Canadiens team and their fans know in their heads if they win game four and they go undefeated. Not undefeated, but if they win both of their games at home, they are like, you are dead now. We have killed you.

Yep. So you have a team who is showing up for a hopeful funeral. Yeah, right. And you are just trying to survive. So they should dress in black. Yeah. Incredible. They should.

That would be sick. Okay. Well, let's go to, or are you good there? I'm good there. Let's move on. Colorado, Minnesota. And Boldie Glazer just said, okay. He says not officially yet, but the Avs beat writer just tweeted out that Blackwoods, Blackwoods between the pipes tonight.

So now, Dan, the winner of that series. to get back to our conversation, the winner of that series is now, who will be the favorite to go to the cup against Vegas or Anaheim will now have done this with their goalies, assuming they ever go back to Wedgwood, which I presume they would.

Yeah, but isn't that crazy? Like, why would you presume that if they keep winning? Yeah, just because I think literally Bednar says he's tired. Like he said out loud, he's like, he just needs a break. He did say that. I'm 90% sure I say. saw him go, he could use a rest. Someone in the chat.

Let us know. If Bednar has straight up in like Wedgwood's tired, he's just like, he's tired, we just got to swap him out here. Because honestly, if I'm Wedgwood and Bednar said that, I'd be pissed. Yeah.

I'd be like, dude, fucking don't say that. I'm not tired. Or even if I am, you're making me look like a baby. Yeah. I wouldn't want my coach saying that about me. It's round two. You got a sweep. round one.

Right, right. You've only played seven games. If my coach is being like this, he's tired. I'd be like, dude, I look like a pussy. And I would use that as bulletin board material if I were the wild. Yeah, I guess he's like, he didn't say it as directly as I thought. He's just going, they do, he said they're better coming in after a break. So I think he's like, yeah, give him a fucking break, dude, and it'll come back in.

Can I what? Oh, the quote? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a great one, but I'll send it to you. but they have full confidence in both. Of course they do. Of course they do. And the abs should.

This is one of those situations, though. We always talk about the regular season versus the postseason. It's a big thing. It came up in the Habs Buffalo series with Cole Cofield. It's like this guy scored 50 goals. He's having a hard time scoring in the playoffs. And I'm like, he's going to be fine. We saw him score last night.

But it's a different game. You've got to adjust to the game. I know the tandem has worked, but you're planning. regular season hockey. Teams are playing very differently. So this is one of those things that I think is Spooksville, USA population Bednar. If you start Blackwood and the Wild beat the shit out of you, which they did in game three.

Yep. So we'll see. Yeah, and then you go, well, fuck, what do I do? I mean, I guess in that case, it's basically exactly what happened to the Wilde, though, because they went, we're going to start Gus. And the abs beat the shit out of them. And they went, sorry, never mind. back to Wallstead.

So then that's what you would do. You go, my bad, back to Wedgwood, it's fine. Yeah, but, yeah. No, it's absolutely correct. But Dan, you know what's interesting that I hadn't really considered because the abs were 2 and 0. But you, the only questions that have ever been called into question about the abs by you, this playoffs was, man, I'll be interested to see Wedgwood in playoffs.

Both of them. Like, whoever they started, they started Wedgwood. So I was like, I'm curious. And then they played presumably great against the Kings. But then even though they're up to one of the series, two games Wedgwood has given up. Six goals and six goals? A ton of goals.

So I am kind of like, oh, true. That's interesting. Because if the wheels came off there, right? Six goals and five goals. If the wheels came off there, then you are all of a sudden, as Colorado, you're going, oh, my God. Yeah. I

I want to stroke off the wild for a second That was such an awesome game from the wild And it starts with Walsted for me You're down to nothing And you've lost pretty badly in both games I know the first game was a shootout But let's call it what it is you gave up eight goals

Yeah that's crazy So you get beat badly in game two After Walstead gets yanked now you're down 2-0 and waltzed gets put back in the net you're at home that's great but when that happens you're basically looking at walson and going get us back in this dude yeah obviously the boys got to play which they did but that is it there's a lot of pressure there on wallstead and he played so well he played so well and the boys were firing that was such a great response for them uh and none more important nothing more important than the fact that they

went two for three in the powerplay. Like, so big. And quite literally might have saved the series. I thought the power play looked good. It always does, though.

Yeah, good point. If that Quinn, if that Quinn, if that Quinn, crab walk through the slot just hits the post and goes out, then I'm like this. Same old wild power play.

It's also, obviously, listen, it's an empty net, which I'm about to get to, but as we say all the time, they all fucking count the same. Yep. You also love in a game like this,

and I'm telling you guys, just optically, this is super important. On the score sheet in that game, Krill Caprisov, Quinn Hughes, Brock Fabor, Matt Boldie. Yeah. That feels phenomenal. Boldie with one of the great empty netters.

It was the greatest empty net. I posted on the story, I was laughing out loud, dude. It was an onslaught. And then you just trebushet the puck, the length of the ice into the net. Dude, do you remember the Vegas one last year at the buzzer? Remember you and I were watching the replay? and it's literally like 0.1 to 0 as the fox going on.

That was also an onslaught that just got iced, that just went in, which was insane. But this looked like that. It was one of the great, one of the great empty netters I've seen all playoffs. And Dan, people in the chat making a good point, Wedgie gave up six and then really just three, because then he got pulled,

Blackwood gave up one and then the empty netter. But it was three quick ones, so it wasn't like he was playing great. but he hasn't given up 11 goals. You know, you only get up three in game. Yeah, yeah, that's true. But again, did not look good, which is why he was taken out. Yeah, when I, I texted you.

When I said that, oh, yeah, yeah, sure. When I said that, I was mostly being like the team. Yeah, yeah, you know, like it was not a good performance. So, great call about the score sheet. The power play finally so, so good. That was really big for me. this one I see this one again

just like Montreal I was like this is like a scheduled win for Minnesota I don't think they're going to get swept by Colorado they're home they got to get this game they came out firing the abs certainly know man we could step on throats here but it's just hard to match that intensity do you think Nate

swimming in flippers in the pool helps the abs let's talk about that or hurts the ass let's get Get that video to Zach because we got to get that up. I have a very, very hot take on this. A video surfaced, Zach, of Nathan McKinnon, arguably best player on the Colorado Avalanche,

swimming in the hotel pool with goggles and flippers. I saw this video, and yet we'll show it here at a second. There's been a lot of chatter online, A lot of chatter online of people being like, this is such a bad look for the abs. They're dead because of this. Just send me a link of that. To that I say this.

Anyone thinking this is a bad look, you are dead wrong. Or you have not swam with goggles and flippers on. Swimming. Swimming in. the ocean, in a pool, in your fucking bathtub with goggles and flippies on is a blast. Dude, flippies absolutely rip. Rip.

It's crazy. You cook! You think you go, you're like, I'll go a little faster probably. Incorrect. You have hit the Noss, my friend. You have rocket fuel pumping through your veins. It's absolutely insane. And dude, I wouldn't be surprised, Dan, if he was doing it.

down and back one breath challenges. I bet he was going, let me see how many times I can get down and back one breath. I bet he was having some of the boys toss rocks in the pool and was saying, let me see how many rocks I can come up with in one breath. You guys, I'll close my eyes, you guys toss some rocks, and then I'll dive in and get them with my goggles. And if you're, you've got to stay loose. You've got to stay light on your feet in playoffs.

Swimming is best exercise. And if you want to relax, if you want to ease the tension, then you're going to stay loose. then you toss some rocks in the pool and then you go down and back all one breath and then you're having the time of your life. The time of your life. Time of your life. I'm passionate about this.

Anyone saying anything negative about this is just you're being a hater, you're trying to sound funny or you've just not done it recently. Goggles and flippers cook. They're gas. I think if I'm Nate if I'm Nate, I go right back in before game four.

Completely agree. Right back in. Oh, God. Do we have it up here? Here he is. Look at Nate Dock. Look at how happy he is. Toss a rock, boys.

Toss a rock in the pool. I love that he's going arms back too. Yep. He's having the time of his life as he should be. Dude, goggles underwater are fucking awesome. Look at the flippies. Dude, I can't, he's just swimming like a torpedo. Yeah.

Arms tight to the side. He is a torpedo. Yeah. That might be his new nickname, dude. the torpedo. Do you think... Who's that guy on the lounge chair? Wait till it refreshes, Dan.

Who are the boys watching? Who's that guy? I think that is Bednar. Well, dude, see, this is what I'm trying to say. Did they walk down and close the pool to the public? Or is this just the pool? I think it's just the pool, man. If it is.

Also, I'm a little surprised that it's warm enough in Minnesota that... I had that thought, too. Oh. Because it's like this is definitely the boys. Yeah. Or staff or something. But that guy in the back, there's a chance that's just a guy. Yeah, if anyone in the chat knows who that is, I want to know.

And dude, I would have been over the moon if I was in Minnesota staying at that hotel. And Nate was swimming. I would have canceled any obligation I had and gone swimming. I think you guys could not be more wrong. I think. I just am. Christ, Sat. I think as if I, and look, I'm just going to say it, like, if I saw my, like, and now I'm

going to put this in football terms, but if I saw my quarterback, like, out there in some flippies looking like that, dude, I don't think I could look at it in the same way. If that was Mahomes before a playoff game, you'd be rattled. What if? I would be rattled. I would be like, dude. I mean, but the same thing, Dan, I could see your point. Because when I first saw this video, my thought was, well, look, on the other hand, if you have the confidence.

Like, it's like wearing like a terrible, ugly shirt. Like, just the ugliest shirt you can buy and you wear it out and people are like, yeah, we're okay with this. Yeah. If you can pull it off, you can pull it off because you're the guy, but that was a lot for me. You know what? Listen, again, I get it, but I'm daring you to think bigger. Because this is another one of those things.

You put a group of guys in a room. Yep. And you implement or introduce a ball to that room. you know everyone starts going like this. Let me get that. Yeah, yeah, let me hit that. If you were at a pool and you're in the pool

and you're swimming, and there is a pair of goggles, you are high off your ass. If you're telling me you're not going to go like this. Let me get those goggles. Yep. If they're just sitting there.

Dude, seeing underwater, that's unbelievable. It is. Who is not taking the opportunity to do that? It is. Now, if Nate packed his goggles and flippies I think he did. Then maybe we can have a different conversation,

but I still stand by what I said. It's fun as hell. I'm not going to get on him about it. I think he did pack his own. Also, Dan, somebody said that it's empty because it's fucking, like you're right, it's 50 degrees outside. Yeah. And Nate, what, I mean, Zach, what do you think about this, though?

If it's, if it's freezing out, does that make him tougher? Like now I'm actually like, wait, Nate's a dog. I mean, it's like a cold plunge, but still, man, the flippies, it's just the flippies. Some guys have to go in the cold punch for 90 seconds and just sit there. Nate gets in the cold pluggies. He flippies up and down a cold tub. Torpedo Nate should terrify wild fans. I mean, I guess they lost immediately.

That's true. But I just say it. I mean, look, lost immediately. He was probably looking at the tweets. He was probably like KD. Just like looking back at it. He scored. I think, okay, this is what it is.

I think everyone else on the team needs to get in that pool with goggles and flippies. That might be right. Then they'll score. But, and somebody says, what if they, what if he's flippies again and the abs lose again? Then we can never flippie again. And also, Dan, I just want to say this. If I am a Minnesota wild fan tonight, tonight. If I'm a Minnesota wild fan tonight, they're playing tonight, right?

Yeah. I am showing up to that game in goggles. If I'm sitting on the glass, I'm showing up in goggles like this. Pussy, go swim, go put your flippies on. If the whole crowd doesn't have goggles on tonight, then they are, they have fucked up. Listen to me. Listen to me. after everything I just said.

Yep. It feels insane for me to say this. Wild fans, if you do not show up to the game tonight in goggles, you're out of your mind. If they don't show up in goggles tonight, they have fucked up so badly. That is like, holy hell. It says, oh, somebody says, Minnie was chirping Nate asking if he forgot his floaties. Yeah, like, you, dude, you need to get your goggles out there at the arena tonight.

That is necessary, necessary work. And dude, that'll affect Nate. Nate is a psycho. Don't get me wrong. But I'm telling you, he's that kind of psycho. Because he sees everything. He hears everything. If you're sitting on the glass, you need goggles.

It's such a good call. Bye. All right. Minnesota, great performance, great bounce back. For Colorado, this is the last thing I'll say about this series. For Minnesota, that's insane. I just said for Colorado. And then I went, for Minnesota.

For Colorado, I don't think you feel faced. You don't at all. That is the worst game that you've played since like January. And you outshot them 36 to 26. You were ramming it down their throat for the last two periods of the game. Walstead, great bounce back, getting back in net with a little bit of rest. Like, I don't think you let it phase you. And I also think if you lose game four, you're still not phased.

Hold on. For one other than for one reason. If you lose game four, you go like this. It's tied up. dude. We want two at home. They want two at home. We have home ice advantage. Let's go back home. Let's reset. Let's take care of business. It would

depend on how Blackwood plays. If you lose Game 4 and Blackwood gets fucking punished. Then you go, okay, we got to go back to Wedgie. And now Blackwood's not really an option. Yes. Which is a scary

feeling. If you get shellacked with Blackwood and Nett, tonight. You go back to Wedgwood and you go, let's reset, which you feel fine about because Wedgwood has been great all year. Should have, should have been a Vesna finalist, whatever, but you go back to him kind of knowing that he's the guy, like we just, we can't go to Blackwood again. Yeah. I'm sorry. So that is a factor. Depending on, if you lose, depending on how Blackwood plays will be a factor. Minnesota, here's a crazy one for you. If they lose this game, I don't think it's night night for them.

Yep. I think they put in six in game one, they put in five in game three. I think that they can go, if they lose this game, I think that they can go, listen, it's going to be tough, but we can still fight. I'll say exactly what I said about Buffalo. It's not must win because I think the Avs could. Buffalo is must win. Could lose three in a row. Very unlikely, but they could.

They literally cannot lose four. They could lose three. I think you're playing. the only team left in these playoffs who could beat Colorado three games in a row. Yes, I agree. Montreal, Carolina, Buffalo, you can't.

I completely agree. This is the only team that could beat them three games in a row. I completely agree. Yeah. Okay, let's move on. Vegas, Anaheim. Last night, Anaheim

storms back ties up the series. We were in the building. Oh, God. Chats crack in CPO. Leo Carlson, Glazer, says, we got a Leo Carlson Glazer? And a Boldie Glazer. I need to, Leo Carlson Glazer, tell us right now.

Did you make your account Leo Carlson Glazer because of how much we referenced Matt Boldie Glazer? Or was that a completely separate thought that you did? Be honest. There's no way. He says, I would have the woods race in the hotel pool with goggles and flippies in the winter gets the start the rest of the way. Leo Carlson Glazer gets it. Yes.

That's correct. That is the absolute correct take. That is the absolute correct take of who gets the start, especially if Blackwood starts and loses. And they go, okay, well, everybody gets your flippies on and we'll see what happens. Okay, Ducks, Vegas. Someone said this earlier. This series is the most slept-on series of the second round because it's awesome and no one's talking about it and no one's paying attention. And also because it's on late.

So no one's, it's literally being slept on. People asleep. people asleep during it. This is a great series, just like Vegas, Utah was actually. But this is a great series. Game three, we saw Friday return to the Ponda,

and we had the Mitch Marner game. Holy Mitch Marner game. Yep. The way Mitch Marner is shoving it up people's hoop with the whole, Mitch Marner, knocking in playoffs, which we talked about last week, even before his last three or four games

Mitch Marner's playoff performances have been great He's like just under a point per game in his time in Toronto And people are like, he's terrible here And I'm like, what are you talking about? And I loved how Torch got asked about that and he was like, it's a bunch of bullshit. Yep. Torts will just swear in press conferences It makes me so happy.

He doesn't care about anything. It's crazy, dude. It's unbelievable. And I love him on the bench. and I want to know more about his psyche. And someday I'm going to ask him, because I think you were right where he was like, this is whatever, this is temp.

And then he started to be like, wait, this is serious. Yeah. And I'm like, stay temp. Yeah. Stay temp. But yes, Mitch Martin. Dude, he leads the playoff in points.

Leads the playoffs and points. Yeah, he's playing incredibly. Toronto people in shambles. Yeah. It's unbelievable. I feel as though that that game in game, three, because when was that Friday? I think so.

Yeah. Game three was the best game Vegas has played all playoffs. Remember after game two, we said we haven't seen Game 6, Utah, Vegas at all. That they hear now. Oh, yeah. That game was unbelievable. Marner was unbelievable. So going into this game, I picked Ducks to win.

Yep. I was like, I just think Ducks are great. I think Dostall will have a good bounce back, and I think that they understand. stand like hey you know like come on don't don't let that game affect you they came out hot they got the first goal that was huge we went peeper peeper that that was also great but um the duck showed me something dude to respond to Vegas's best game with a needed win and a first goal performance you then let it get tied up on an also paper fucking jack ikel on that power play holy Dude.

And then you get a nice, another quick goal. It's just like the ducks. Man, this isn't a, this isn't a house money situation. Like it was with Philly, right? Philly beat Pitt and we were kind of like, no matter what happens, Philly's just kind of laughing. There was a world where it was like the ducks beat Edmonton. That was fucking sick.

Yeah. Maybe they come in against Vegas and it's like, oh, we kind of emptied the clip there. But the ducks are showing. us that they're like wrong. We are, we were a top three, say we will about the Pacific, but we were a top three team in the division all year long. We are fucking good.

We're going to try to go to the cup here. And they were winning the division for most of the year. They just went through two insane. Bad skits. We lost eight games in a row situations. Yeah, this one was awesome for me because Dostol, dude, was not good against the Oilers.

No, he was not. They won that series. Objectively, no, he was not. They won that series because the Oilers goalies also suck. and the Ducks Power Play went 50%. Yeah, that's how they won. So then, and I thought Dostal's been great through two games in this series,

and then he gets pinballed, and then gets yanked. Yeah. And I'm like, uh-oh, because if you fall back into that, you're going to lose to Vegas. Yeah. Period.

Because Carter Hart's been really good in this series. So then he has a great game. That's massive. Ducks Power Play was over 15 or something. It may have not been that high, but I think it maybe was. but they were on a horrific power play run against this team. Bang, two goals.

Kind of felt like a must win for them. I'm not sure I would stand. I know because they could have done it. But just a massive game to get those pickups. And in a game where Vegas fought. Because sometimes you get these games where you go, we have to win. Like Minnesota, you go, we have to win. And then you roll.

Colorado. I'm not saying Colorado didn't play well. They outshowed them 36.26. Yeah. But that game never got close. Minnesota comfortably won in a game they had to have. Yeah. The ducks came into this game going, we had to have this.

They took two leads. Three leads? Two, I think. Three leads. Because it went up four to. Like one nothing, two one and then three, two, four, two. That's a different lead in your mind? Yeah, could tie twice.

Oh, yeah. No, sorry. I thought you were saying three, two, four, two is a different lead. No, no. That took three leads. So in a game you have to have when the other team is not letting you have it. And it's how it's how it again. And it's another ricochet, you know, all this shit.

You go, fuck, they won't go away. That is a fucking gutsy playoff win. Absolutely. And you saw it, dude, the killer power play goal. Like, we, that was like right in front of us. Yeah. And he was like, great. But that's how you know where he's like, dude, don't stop, boys.

Like, we have to stay on. on the fucking gas here. They're going to keep coming. They're going to keep coming. We have to get this. That was sick. And I just want to say for Vegas fans, because we, I,

and a lot of Ducks fans did a lot of bitching about the refs in the icing call on whatever game that was, game one, I guess. That power play, someone who added at the point, Beckett, Beckett passed it down the wall to Cutter,

and it just jumped over his stick and would have been, either a clear or at the, very least like mucked up behind the net and it just hit the refs skate and kicked right to killer and then he walked right in front so yeah i got to say i just got to give Vegas fans a little credit here let's call it even yeah blown ice in call in game one great call very crazy ricocheting game two because i don't think a lot of people i haven't seen a lot of people on the internet talking about that yet but that 100% kicked off the ref skate and and literally that goal does not happen

if that doesn't hit the it wasn't the one you said it live and then i was looking up at the jumbo tron to replay it's not like it's a crazy ricochet and it's a crazy ricochet and that then he stops in. It was like it bounced and gave him the opportunity to get the puck where he then had to make a play. So it wasn't that egregious, but it, without question, gave him an opportunity to get possession back.

Yes. And, you know, that's a thing. So, yeah, we even. Yeah, we even. I like that. You're so right. It was a great response game by the Ducks. There were a few things with, you know,

you have the lead, ties up, you get the lead back, ties up, you get the lead back. you get an insurance goal, that's huge. Love to see those moments. I also love to see some fight from Beckett. That was a big Beckett game. Beckett is 19.

Yeah, probably hold on. Their end of the second period, Beckett has a great game. He obviously scores that first goal. He was all over the ice. And Dowd was all over Beckett that game. There was a bunch. He's 20 years old.

Yeah. there was a he's only 14 years old yeah there were a bunch of plays in that game where becket was getting held behind the play face wash behind the play he was hacking slash and he was getting in the mixer but there are times where that can go oh you're frustrated and you know like you're it's it's throwing you off your game but again he already had a goal he was playing really well he had a couple nasty fucking plays throughout that game but at the end of the second dowd comes up to him and gives him one after the whistle and Beckett stands up and this was a bit of frustration but I thought it was good frustration

Beckett cross-checked the fuck out of Dowd like right on top of the crack and crumpled him down onto the ground and Dowd is a nasty motherfucker that's a tough customer yeah and 20 year old Beckett was like fuck you bitch I don't give a shit yeah and took a penalty which the ducks then killed me yeah I loved it I love even with taking the penalty I loved that because it was a young player going bring it on buddy like you're a fucking fourth line grinder plug that's what he that's I'm not saying that's what doubt is I'm saying that's

what you say as Beckett when you're mad in that situation and you go I am a fucking rookie of the year candidate's future superstar I don't give a shit that I'm only 20 I don't give a shit that you're a vet I don't give a shit that you're tough as nails I'm going to fight back I I thought that was a metaphor for the fight back in this game

by the ducks dude it was we said it on the video where And we shot a great video. We'll get it out maybe tomorrow or maybe Wednesday. I'm not sure. But that was the biggest takeaway throughout the game was Beckett was in the mixer. And he got a sick goal cell. He got the first one.

I was fired up. But then he was pirouetting in the zone, slashing people, throwing the body. Remember it was like in that one shift in the neutral zone, Dan, where I felt like he stayed between the blue lens all the time. He was just banging everybody that he saw. It was ridiculous. I've said a million times. I look up and down this roster.

I can't believe how many good people are on the Ducks, how many good young players on the Ducks team? You said even the second PowerPly unit comes out, and you're like, this is the first Powerful Unit on many teams. And it is so great to see these guys getting this experience, even if they fucking lose this series. Yeah. It is this, these are the things that you learn from

and make you great moving forward as a team. No question. Because they are going to be in the mixer. I thought it was a great game from the Ducks. Obviously, great job to tie that up. You head back to Vegas now. really, really nice for Vegas to see Tamash Hurtle score that goal at the end. I was about to say, that's your takeaway at the end.

You know what's funny, man? We make all these fucking empty net videos. Yeah. And people laugh when we're losing our minds, when, like, guys get close and they don't score. I sometimes think, because of how much of a joke we make it, the show is called empty netters. Yeah. I sometimes think fans don't understand how important empty net goals are. They're massive.

Dude, it is unbelievable how often the pulled goalie works. Yeah. And we saw it last night. Yes, thank God you're up to. But you're up to and Cutter Gautier is flying down the right side of the board's puck on his backhand. And he's trying to shield off the defender and he doesn't get a shot on net. He doesn't get the puck in the net. And then what do you know, Vegas comes down, beautiful play.

Tomas Schurtle, who has not fucking scored in like three months. Yeah. scores a goal. Seas one goes in, and now with a minute left, it's a one goal game. Yep. And every butthole in the Ponda

Oh, dude, that got tense. Tightens up. And you were like, oh my God. And there was a part for me, the sleepy boy, Dan, who was like, please let me drive home

and go to bed. I was like, is this about to fucking go into overtime? And instantly, they got like a breakaway off the face-off. Still made an insane save at the end of there.

It was crazy. Yeah, it was ridiculous. So, Entenets are fucking drastically important, folks, drastically important. And I'm telling you that you cling to everything you can in the playoffs, any bit of momentum, any sign of good. And for Vegas, being down two, you pull the goalie, you get a goal, and one of your best players who has not scored in a while, scores, you go, that's great.

That's very good for us. So yes, this is I was going to say, and, dude, oh, yeah. So just to more stroke the ducks, I want to say the atmosphere there was awesome. I was, we were coming in, and a lot of, you know, we were in the L.A. area. A lot of people there are from L.A. have been to Kings games. People had said to us, fans were coming up to us being like, you will not believe how much rowdier it is in here than at crypto.

And I found that to be very true. I will say I chirped the King's atmosphere after game three of the Aves series. I thought they were way, way, way better, way better for game four. Cope's last game. Yeah. Yeah. But this Ducks vibe was fantastic. It was fantastic.

I'm going to stick up for the Kings and for Kings fans. Obviously, after you have won a playoff series beating the former Western Conference champs and you are now in the second round, your vibes are going to be better than when you're fucking playing the president's trophy winning wagon avalanche and down to O. It's tough. The bigger thing is the Honda Center is, I think there's a lot of people, Chris, who went to the Honda Center 15 years ago. Okay, I like this. I think when you had a fucking diaper full of poop and you went to Disneyland ages ago,

you also went to a Ducks game and you think that that gives you ground to talk shit about the Honda Center. Every Ducks fan, every season ticket holder will tell you how different the Honda Center is even from five years ago. Yeah. It is a totally different vibe. And we always stand up for Southern hockey. Yep. Because it is just, it is a hockey purist lame take, in my opinion. to blindly shit on different arenas

just because they're in the cell. Yeah. That was a great playoff environment. That was a standing room only sellout. That was a loud fucking arena with a brass band. Dude, doing laps. That was sick.

That was so sick. And man, there's not a bad seat in the house. Yeah. Like, I was talking, people sitting all over the place. Yeah. The views are perfect. The in-game entertainment is awesome. Yes.

The outside, we went by the violent gentleman. Violent gentleman had a whole booth up. And I hate to do this to wit. Yeah. Sorry, Witt. But they have a shirt. Can you read it? Yeah, it says,

might as well not even watch. This is what Witt said before the Ducks Oilers. Putting a photo of Witt getting bundled is not. I love Witt. I'm going to stand up for Witt. Sabre's killing him. Hammer? That's rude.

Savers killing them. It's a violation. Ducks killing them. And they had the other one where you got that was like the puck was fully. Yeah, I love that one. Yeah. That shirt is awesome. So good.

The Valan gentlemen's got the tent outside. They had the puck drop patio with the music and his food and the snacks. Great. Too, it smelled fucking so bad. Unbelievable. Obviously, we were down in the Impact Club too, which is just,

if anybody who has a chance to do that. Yeah, I think my take is, if you haven't been to a Ducks game this year, you don't have grounds to talk shit about the vibe in the arena.

Yeah. And I'm just like, let's show a little love here, man. Like, so many of these, this is how hockey grows. All these awesome fan bases making it a great time at games. It makes people who are visiting places

want to go to a game. Yep. It's like, you know, we're so, whenever these amazing teams are like, hey, you want to come to, I'm like, fuck yeah, dude. Yes. Like, I'm desperate to have a business trip that takes me to Winnipeg so I can have an excuse to go to a Jets game because I hear and know that it's a great environment. I want that to be the case at every arena.

Yes, dude. Just getting you experience the culture, your team's culture, your fan base's culture is so sick. So massive, massive thank you to everyone of the ducks because that was an all-timer last night. Sure was. But to talk about Vegas, like you said, hurdle. huge. Carter Hart has been good. I would say you were kind of critical on his on the fourth one.

It just looked like he couldn't see it to me. Yeah, it was a screen. Yeah. It was a screen. The killer one, he probably wants back a little bit, but then at the end again, killers in alone, like jamming you just kind of push through. When those ones like kind of bounce in weird, I'm like, well, dude, he's right on top of them. Those are always going to kind of bounce in weird. Yeah. So I think that was just

a good goal. So I think if you're Vegas, you go, Hurtle scored, and then Marner had an assist on that, he still looks great. And then Carter Hart's still pretty good. The big question is Mark Stone. And the one spin zone is, well, we nearly won that game or we nearly forced that game to overtime without Mark Stone. That feels good. The downside, the negative spin zone is what is wrong and how long is he out? And my question to you, Dan, is Mark Stone quite literally the most injury prone player to ever live? Yes. I mean, like literally yes.

I don't know. Other than players who have ended their career because they're like, I'm literally just too injured, I have to stop playing. For someone who continuously comes back and plays and plays as much hockey as they do, Markstone is the most injury prone player to everybody. I know everyone else to LTIR joke.

They're all real. Markstone is not faking injuries. He had a lacerated spleen last year. It's ridiculous that what happens to him. But my God, dude, it must be painful. being a Vegas Golden Knights coach, GM, teammate, or fan. Correct. And you're like, I need you, dude.

Like, you are Mark Stone. You are fucking nasty. Yeah. Please, please. He is literally the most injury prone player to ever live. It's unbelievable. Yeah. And, yeah, I mean, it sucks.

Like, if he doesn't come back in game five and they lose, and maybe he doesn't come back in this series. But, like, it's just, it's yet another. We talk about it with the abs all the time. The abs, being as good as they are with landyback and Val healthy. back. Yep. You feel, if you're an abs fan, you feel like you could have, should have won three cups

in the last four years. Yeah, correct. And you're like, we got fucking so robbed by injury. Vegas has ground to stand on with that with Mark Stone, too. Yeah. Like, every time Mark Stone goes out and they lose, I would be like, fuck. Because it's another one, dude, ask anyone in the league who has played with Mark Stone, you will hear how valuable he is and how good he is.

There's a reason he's on Team Canada every year and no one cares about his injury because he's that good. Yep. it's bad when he's out. So, I mean, if they could have stolen that game, it would have been huge. So now there's a big question for game five. Does he play? And if he doesn't, what does it mean for this team?

Yeah. God damn. All right, let's kick it finally to the sweep. Carolina is about to have two weeks off. Okay, so first of all, and we put this up last step, but first of all, just huge shout out to the Keynes. Because a double sweep is no joke. It was the first time since 1985.

the Edmonton Oilers double sweep in the first two rounds and just checking my notes, what did the 85 Oilers do? Oh yeah, they won the fucking cup. So unbelievable stuff from the Carolina Hurricanes. I want to jump in and say, because I know there's a lot of Keynes fans in the chat, this is about to be a stroke-off session because I think I have emerged as the biggest Keynes supporter

on the Internet. Well, I would say that we have always, we have always shown up to the Keynes. And, dude, I went to school there. Like, I've been to so many Keynesians. You're a Carolina boy, you know. I cannot wait. You're a big P.D. Pablo guy.

I hope we can go in the Eastern Conference finals. You're a big cookout guy. Cookout. You're a big shooters guy. Shoots, scoots. You're a big Durham Bulls guy. Yep. God, dude, you just got me so far.

Are you the most Carolina guy I know? Yes, I am. I'm over here being like, I'm the Keynes guy. I like the Canes guy. I am the Canes, pal. I am the fucking canes. But I picked sweep and then I picked five. Yeah, that's really good.

I picked five and six. So I'm always just, I know, it's double sweep. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so it's unbelievable. I have a lot to say about them. So before we do all of that, and you kind of do this already. But just a hell of a season from Philly.

Hey, can we go like this real quick for Philly? Hey, Philly, you had both your teams get swept out of the playoffs in the same day. Oh, dude. Or same day or same weekend? Same weekend. I actually wanted to do. There was so many. It's funny you said.

Hey, Lox, if you're watching this, Get your bitch ass in here An answer for Joel M. Bede's legacy performance. Dude, there was so much when the Bruins and Celtics lost, there was so much like, tough weekend to be a Boston fan. Like the whole world rejoices. And I was like, the fucking... CEO Jack was like, I've been waiting my entire life for this Boston downfall.

The Boston downfall lasted two seconds because I then got to see the Philly Downfall. Fucking insane. But that said, we saw Boston sucks. We suck. We're a loser town. So the Flyers had an incredible season. There was, the Keynes looked better the whole time. Yeah.

But there was fight still, right? Like we got two games overtime. JP said to me in a parallel universe, it's 2-2, which is true, right? Like OT hockey, anything can happen. And in a parallel universe, the series is 2-2, and you're going, holy shit, who knows. True. The Canes got the bounces. And they earned the bounces.

It wasn't luck. Yeah. You know, they earned the bounces. But the Flyers, JP himself said, If the flyers get hummed in four, I don't care. This has been incredible. It has been, and I'm actually really excited for that team. The only things I want to say about them for the cane stroke is, I think Lidar is great.

Yeah, I think he showed that they don't have goalie questions now. I would go and get him help. I would get him a good tandem. And it might be Ayrson, but if you don't feel confident about that, I would consider finding him help because through the regular season, the tandem is the move. Yeah. But I think Ladar is like, I'm a fucking starting goalie in the NHL. That's awesome. He cares, dude.

He does. He doesn't even that bad of a goal, but he just like, he wanted that. But he was pissed, and I love that. I agree. And then my question to Philly fans, and we don't need to answer us now, but my fear, my wonder, is, Mitch Koff looked so good last year. This year, it was not bad. He had over 20 goals, 50 points, I think, something like that.

But, and I anticipate a sophomore slump, I always anticipate a sophomore slum. But I worry a little bit about Mitch Koff and talk, because talk doesn't seem to be the coach that is like, just do your thing, bro. Like, I, and which is kind of interesting because Zegris, that was like the big Zegris problem, right? Like Zegris wants to Michigan and whatever. How is he going to work with talk? And he had a great year. But I am just slightly scared that talk won't let Mitch Koff fly. and Mitch Koff is a player you need to let fly.

That's right. He could be a hell of a guy. I've got a hell of a guy. Hell of a guy. I've got a couple things on that. And then I have another big topic. Mitch Koff, he's definitely that type of guy. We actually, ricochet shot at Boston,

we were talking with our pal Mason last night at the game. Yep. And we were talking about Seneca. And it's a 20-year-old Seneca. the way Quenville lets Seneca roll. You need that, dude. I know the ducks are a young team. I know there's not competition in the lineup.

That's wrong. Look at how many get the... Frank Petrono is health bombed on this team. You bet your ass there's competition. The way Quenville lets these young guys run, you have to do it. When you pick a guy that high, you have to do it. And the ricochet shot at Boston is,

I like the kid line, Minton, who's Nadinoff and Hagen's. Hagan's is your seventh overall pick. He is like the future offensive star of this team. You, and maybe it's next year, whatever, you've got to play him top two lines. Yes. You cannot Tyler Sagan this kid.

You cannot Jake DeBrusk this kid. You can't pick these kids this high and then go, you're a third line grinder. That's how you're going to get your way into the NHL. You're going to be responsible. Place you're going to learn some lessons here. Wrong. You've let them play this.

fucking game. So you're absolutely right about that. Oh, the one thing I will say that I don't know, if Mitchcoff is showing up out of shape. Yeah, yeah. If he's not working on, that shit. Yeah, what was that clip? That was like. Mitchcoff's camp? Yeah. Fuck, cut that shit out too. Yeah. Dude, drink

some light. You should be drinking light. Yeah. Have some light beers. Try it. Maybe take the bun off the burger. I don't care what it. And I'm not, I'm not suggesting because I don't know. But if we've heard a lot of the reports, if you are showing up out of shape, if you aren't taking practice seriously. You also got to fix that.

Because this is a fun Philly team. It's an exciting group and you are an exciting player. Be a part of it. Don't be an issue. Now, my other thing on Talk It, I don't know if you saw this. Video surfaced of talk at Philly Barstool after the game. After the loss. Yeah, I haven't seen it.

He's just drink. He's at the bar. I have his beers after the game. There were some fans who were mad about that. No, no, no, no. Grow up. Do they just lost. It's, it's, and this isn't I'm not going to talk shit to those fans. Please. Hell yeah, you can.

Come on, Zach. Look at that transition. Dude. This was locks right after the game. This is locks right after the game. This is what a sad Philly fan looks like. Look at this, dude. And nothing makes me happen.

Look at that custom Klojuru captain, Jersey. that's incredible nothing makes me happier than that dude you know what dude i'll watch beast games till 5 a.m. because of this another year same always next year look at how many signs he has the tissues are unbelievable yeah Zach that's fantastic thank you so much i'm so glad you captured that um yeah so this is not me talking shit to any fans who were who were uh complaining about that it's more of a the season is so long guys

when you lose, you got to have pops with the boys. Yes. I don't care. And I mean immediately. I don't care if you get swept. I don't care if you lose an overtime of game seven of the Stanley Cup final. You got to have pops with the boys. In fact, if anything, Philly fans, I think you should be thrilled that talk gets in the mixer like that.

Yeah, true. Because that's a guy that you go to war with. That's like the players are like, I want talk here having some pops while we're commiserating. That's fantastic. Let's getting it together. Also, let's stop filming people. Agree. You know, like, let people live.

Stop filming people and putting it on the air. Just chill out. Like, what are you doing? Carolina. Carolina, and, I mean, my God, the Hall Jackson Blake's Stank line is out of fucking control. Stank cannot stop scoring.

Jackson Blake cannot stop scoring. Freddie Anderson cannot stop being a sick fuck. who will never, who, who is personally offended by goals going in the net. I bet he doesn't even like it when his team scores because he doesn't even like seeing it. I mean, can we talk about this, Chris? This game, Forrester gets a goal. Great. Yep.

Good job. Yeah, hell yeah, I feel like. A little fight. A little fight. Jackson Blake assisted by Taylor Hall and Keandre Miller. Yep. Jackson Blake, Taylor Hall. Then, Stankovan, Red Hot.

Yeah. assisted by Taylor Hall and Jackson Blake. Bump scores, ties it up. And real quick on that, bump is who didn't follow his check to let Stankevin get loose and take the lead there. For him to come back and score, like a minute later, it was fucking awesome. Then in O.T. Jackson Blake goal, assisted by Jacob Slavin and Taylor Hall.

Taylor Hall and Jackson Blake had themselves a fucking knight. They've had themselves a playoff. They've had themselves a series. It is insane, dude. It is absolutely insane what they're doing. insane. You mentioned first time a team has won their first eight games of the playoffs back-to-back sweep since

1985 Edmonton Oilers. You can guess who was on that team. I will not hear any more the canes have played no one. Okay, why? Because I don't give a shit who you're playing. Me neither.

Sweeping a team in playoffs is hard. Multiple overtime games, multiple overtime wins. Sweeping two teams. is hard. Yes, their competition has not been as tough as other teams. No question. But dude, back-to-back sweeps, can we please put some respect on the Kane's name?

You don't need to glaze them like we're doing. Right. You don't need to do that, but put some fucking respect on their names. They have not lost a game in these playoffs. They have not lost. And every time. And played every type of way. Yes.

They've come back. They've won overtime games. They've won blowouts. They're doing it all. I kept going on and on about how they play with their food. They let these teams look like they're in it, and then they still find a way to win. They've done that time and time again.

Next round is going to be a way bigger test. Way bigger test, no matter what. But if you want to talk shit about the canes, and if you want to go, look what happens every year in the third round. Go for it, sure. But I am not going to sit here and be another boo-bird when all they've done these playoffs is, show that they were the best team in the East all year.

Yeah. They were the best team in the East regular season all year. They've been the best team in the East these playoffs because they have not fucking lost a game. So I am going to continue to believe in them and I'm going to continue to pick them. And if they lose in the third round, let that shit talk up. Bring it at me. Yeah. I'll take that shit.

Fine. But I am so sick of just the, you know, oh yeah, I'm not impressed. Why? Yeah, I guess it's got to be both because someone just said, right, It's, yeah, oh, David, he goes, so they, if you went by one through eight, which we don't do. If you went by one through eight, they played, they've played seven and eight. Yes. So that's a fact.

And yeah, and you know what? Another fact is we handled our shit. Yeah. Which I think you also have to respect. Without question. Because I go, what do you want them to do? What would be better? Would it be cooler for the canes to go, oh man, they've played two, six gamers?

And like, here's the thing. And I know they play tougher competition guys, but. Dallas was number two in the West. Yeah. They're out. Yep. They were out in six. Bye. So it's like, here's a team who's been number one.

They've earned number one all season long. And I know we don't do one through eight, but the fact that they played seven and eight, I'm like, they fucking earned that by being the best team. Yeah, correct. Certainly eight. They earned playing eight because they were the best team. And they swept the shit out of them.

And then sometimes teams upset other teams. And then you play them. And by the way, Dan... Also, they would have swept Pittsburgh. by the way there's no we don't know anything yet about the next round because I think and I mean not to buzz

kill again but I said yes the Cain season is obviously going to be defined by what happens in the Eastern Conference Finals right like no one no one is saying yeah dude if we lose in these conference finals doesn't matter anymore because we had a double sweep no one saying that no one in Raleigh is saying that they're going no shit we need to fucking

have a better performance in this next round but if what happens if they what happens if they go up three up against Buffalo or Montreal. Oh, dude. Yeah, it doesn't matter who they play. It is going to be that the way the fucking beatdown, the Keynes admin put on Philly fans

and the beat down stormy put on Gritty. Yeah. It was assault. Yeah, it's assault, brother. And if you don't think the Keynes admin is going to have a field day with whoever they play next round if the Keynes are up and winning, it is going to be biblical.

Yes, all the canes shit talkers, I'm just saying, be careful. Be careful. Because if the canes are different, and I know it's like, how many times you're going to get called the horse before you get fitted for a fucking saddle. But if the canes are different this year,

then you better be careful with all the shit you talked about. Wake me up in the third round. And you've got nothing to say. I talked about round one. I was like, if you get swept, you've got to take your medicine. If you are a professional hater, shit talking the canes online,

and the Cains win anyway. Yeah. In the Eastern Conference final, you have to sit down, put on a bib, and take your medicine and not speak. Yeah. You have nothing to say.

But again, I will take the shit if they lose as well. Yep. So that's that. I, only thing left, I mean, listen, sweet, another sweet. All right, then go.

And I know you don't even want to hear this, but this one is significant. This break is going to be crazy. I love it. Really? I don't know how you can love it. Dude, I'll tell you exactly how. I love this break.

You've all heard me say this. I think the break fear, I think it's dumb. I don't get it. They're going to have an extra week here, which is nuts. If Buffalo Montreal go seven, they have 12 days off. Yeah. Crazy. They are going to have a lot of time, and I hope that series goes seven,

for if there's any team I need this for, it is them because two people key, Freddie Anderson Jacob Slavin Yep Just take Get all the treatment

Yeah Get all the treatment Stay healthy, stay buzzing Got some inside Sources inside that locker room They are fucking fired up They are so in it They are so locked in

They're so focused They're fucking buzzing they are a wagon. I think this time off will do nothing. And frankly, Chris, if it goes seven, as we've seen, this is going to be a Buffalo and Montreal are beating the shit out of each other. And just like we saw with Nick Sixers,

just like we saw with Buffalo taking care of Montreal in game one after that crazy Tampa series, I think these teams are going to be the fucking night in Monty Python Holy Grail with a flesh wound hobbling on one leg and no arm coming in game one against the canes going we're ready yeah and the canes are going to win 10 nothing yeah they're gonna go we are fucking fresh as lettuce yep i love it i don't think it's going to affect them at all i was obviously look at that there's storm that's not stormy at all but i like stormy called in a toilet paper tornado but i like that guy i like that guy and kill gritty that look on gritty's face

is terrified. That's awesome. How are you cooking these up so fast? We're working. Dude, I was obviously wrong about the abs break, meaning I guarantee the abs would lose game one after the break. And they did not. But I will say they certainly did not look.

That was not a normal hockey game, you know? I'm a little rattled if this does go that long. And honestly, good point about Slavin. For me, it's just the goalies. Freddy's been so awesome. And I know he loves, he needs his health and his rest. He's dialed. But it's just seeing game action pucks.

You literally cannot simulate it. We've heard from Sway. We've heard from a million guys about this. Practice. No matter what, even if your NHL team is scrimaging. It's just not the same picking up the puck. And so that's my concern. I'm not saying you can't do it.

My concern is Freddie Anderson has been fucking a gem. Yeah. And in the playoffs. And if he comes out and he's like, oh shit, I kind of threw me off having fucking eight months off. Yeah. It's 20, 28. It is possibly going to be 12 days, which would be insane. But I think they're going to be fine.

I think they've just shown everyone everything they possibly can, and I love to see it. I think this team is so fun and awesome. And, yeah, I mean, listen, all the shit talkers, be careful. Kane's shit talkers, too, though. Be careful. Oh, oh, Kane's fans. Cains fans. Actually, good point, because the Kane's chat is very confident right now. That's what I'm saying.

The chat is very confident. X has been very confident. And again, I'm a Keyneser. I'm a Kane's supporter. But I'm not talking shit. Yeah. I'm just boost. I'm talking about,

I'm like the Keynes are playing phenomenal. They're real this year. I do think that they are different. But the biggest test awaits. Yeah. So it's honestly bigger than the Cup. I know. Dude.

It's like, you, you simply have to win this next series. Otherwise, the shit talk will never stop. dude because it's and dude god forbid they get run like if they lose a back and forth

I am telling you right now that will literally never happen I think that's probably correct I'm willing to stamp that I reserve the right to take that back depending on who wins because I don't want to get fucking clipped here but god I do not think that they will get swept god forbid they get run in the ECF too

oh my god I don't know what would happen dude you gotta be kidding me all right that's gonna wrap up this live nice long one wait I have an important thing to say because we get 416 people in the YouTube right now. Everybody, please. I'm going to, well, let me put it in the chat. Everybody, please, if you haven't,

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Goddrow 5K Family and Fun Day coming up this weekend, because I think this is going to drop Monday. Yep, yep. So coming up this weekend, we're so pumped to have you too. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having us. Absolutely. So we've had the pleasure of talking with Jillian

all about this, and obviously we've talked to so many of the guys who have participated and donated jerseys and all of this amazing stuff. How how fun has this been for you, seeing how great it went last year and then getting amped up for this year and seeing all the virtual walks that go on as well? Is this just a special time for you both leading up to this and seeing more people participate and how much it's grown already in just two years?

Yes, I think it's for for Guy and I especially, it means so much to us to see how many people really loved John and Maddie and our family. that how they want to support the boys and just be there for all of us. And it just, just the testament to what wonderful people they were. Like, we always knew that they were great guys, but it's nice to see that the rest of the hockey community and even outside the hockey community also recognizes how supportive they were and how helpful.

And it just says, for parents, I mean, it's great. You know, we, we always loved all the sports. We love that they were athletes. It was so much fun watching them, but seeing them grow up as good people, that's what every parent really wants. You want to raise your children to be good people and people to respect. And I feel like, you know, that's, you know, John, Maddie, Kristen and Katie, are two daughters. You know, they're all like that. And we're very fortunate for that.

So this 5K has just been a way for people to come around and show us. us how much the boys meant to them like they'll come they'll tell us stories people will write letters it was just so so nice to just hear other people say so many nice things about them yeah absolutely and i heard you say uh last year right after the event i heard you say that um one thing that's so special about it is it honoring these boys or doing things to honor your boys is a way that can make them proud in your eyes and it made you so happy so i'm curious now we're on the second one, but how did the idea for the first one even come about? How did you get the ideas going to start this last year?

Really, we have a lot of, we've made a lot of friends through hockey that are, you know, and them, their kids and our two boys are all good friends, and they're going through the same, probably not as big agreement process we're going through, but they felt that they really wanted to do something to honor the boys. So they came with an idea of a 5K, and then to, get build this special needs playground for kids that uh where my wife works and my daughter works but uh but the first year was pretty much them doing everything we really weren't much help not that were a lot of help this year either but uh they're so good like they're really

amazing yeah really into this and um again we we still have a lot of a long ways to go to be somewhat normal anymore so um it's nice though when last year we went to the 5k we pulled in it was like around 630 and i'm looking all these people i'm like i really didn't think i could face all those people you know so but it was kind of it was nice they were all very genuine and uh just there to support us and make us feel good about a bad situation that um yeah and and and a lot of goods come from it and uh all because John and Matt were tremendous young men, and they were well loved by a lot of people. Jane and I, you know, we have a lot of really, really good friends

that took it upon themselves to do this for the boys. And so, and this year we're a little more involved, but we still have a long ways to go, Jane and I and our daughters. But, yeah, it is really, really special, because we have a lot of people like you guys are helping us promote it, which is really special. And probably it'll be bigger this year than it was last year and hopefully it'll grow every year.

Yeah, absolutely. And, Guy, you talk about the hockey community and it's such a real thing and it's why a big reason why we leapt at the opportunity to talk to you and help spread the word about this because we love it so much, we believe in it so much, and have so many of those mutual connections because we always joke that the hockey community is so big,

but so small at the same time. And there's just so much love there. But it's also so cool to see how this has come about and working with the Damiano school that obviously, Jane, you work at, Kristen's worked at, the boys volunteered at. How special has it been for the two of you in this time when you're trying to heal and trying to grow having so many different communities that you're so close with and have been a part of for such a long time, rally together and try to lift you up and try to grow this thing and spread the word. and just really inject a lot of love and strength into this moment.

That must feel pretty amazing to see. It does. I've said from the very beginning that I felt like the hockey community and others outside of that, but especially the hockey community, whether it was from Calgary to Philly to Columbus, where the boys played their USHL in Omaha and Debutte, Boston College, where they went to college. So many people just reached out to us. And I felt like it was like a one big hug.

I felt like they were kind of just taking our whole entire family and just, you know, giving us that warmth and hug and that, you know, just made us feel, you know, at a really, really difficult time and really hard time. It just, they were there to kind of rally around us and help us. And throughout, you know, the months, we've gotten. so many people that through either messages or in social media or even in the mail that have reached out to us and thanked us for helping them, which I couldn't understand at all for a while, but they were saying to see you be so strong and to take your grief and try to make it something

positive so that your boys will be proud of you. It just gave so many other people that were experiencing this hope. Where Guy and I did not see that because at home, we think we are not doing well because, you know, it's just, it's just such a hard, terrible thing to go through and you're so sad. And I feel like, but when we're doing things for the boys and we're thinking about them and trying to, you know, grow the game of hockey and donate to special needs or the, you know, we've done a lot with, we're going to do a lot with USA hockey and their, you know, six disciplines and just, it just makes us feel good that we're doing something to keep John and Maggie, John and, excuse me, John and Maddie's legacy alive and

keep them going. And I feel like that is also helping us. Never did I think that we would be in turn helping other people who are also grieving think that, you know, well, maybe we can, you know, maybe we can get through it too, because if you were to see us at home, sometimes it's, It definitely doesn't look like that. I'm sure to our daughters who have, who see us through this every day and, you know, have been such a tremendous support because, you know, I don't think there's enough ever said

for sibling loss. I think, you know, you hear so much about, you know, parents or spouses, but there's not enough that for a sibling because I see what our girls are going through and, you know, other people, you know, like have lost I lost two people that meant the world to us, but our daughters really have lost four because they lost their two brothers. And then they also lost the parents that they had because we will never be the same again. Even though we try, it was Katie's wedding. And we went. We had, you know, and we did have a nice time. Katie incorporated so much about the boys into her entire wedding. It was amazing. And we just felt like they were there. But it still wasn't like it would have been. when, you know, if it had happened, you know, a year ago when we had all been together. So I think, and to answer to your question, it's just so many people coming together and

really helping us. And, you know, in turn, we want to give back and help other people. Yeah. Oh, my God. Absolutely. And one thing you said, Gie, a while ago, just not even expecting to be able to think you could face that many people was so eye-opening to me, hearing that and it's so cool because like you said last year 2,500 total participants 550K raised and now getting even bigger but it is so nice that it's getting bigger because you survive on community right you survive on people being there for each other and meeting each other and sharing stories sharing memories I think that is so awesome and one thing that we got excited about looking up the event was it's not just the 5K right people can come volunteer participate watch

all that stuff but there's other cool events like you can walk and then you've got some kids stuff. And I really want to hear about the diaper dash because that sounds so exciting to me. Can you tell us a little bit about all the other stuff you have going for the kids and families that come? Sure. Last year it was mainly the, we had two 5Ks run.

Is that correct? Well, we had, yeah. Competitive and a non-competitive? The non-competitive one was mostly walkers. So this year we did, instead of two 5Ks, we did the 5K competitive 5K, and then we did the two-mile walk. and strollers and you know wheelchair chairs and whatever and then we uh we have a company that's called

the dreams dream come true yeah it's all like um face painting face painting little art all kinds of things for the kids she's bringing bluey which you know if you nice that's good it definitely be a highlight um and then then we have the diaper dash then we have the kish dash uh we also have a cornhole tournament, which John and Matt love doing. So we have a lot of people participating in that. You know, we have competitive dancers from my daughter's dance studio that are going to be dancing. We have Lauren Hart, who sings the national anthem for the Flyers. She does an anthem, national anthem. We have Gritty. Yeah, we got Gritty. Who else do we have Gritty? Philly Fanatic. Philly Fanatic.

Oh, my God. This is unbelievable. Your mascot's coming. Of course, the. The kids high school, their mascot, which is the ram. He's coming. It's just a lot of it. And our chairperson of our 5K, which is one of our good friends. And it also happens to be John and Maddie's, one of their best friends, mom and dad. They're the ones that the mother, she's the one that kind of, you know, she's the chairperson.

She does everything. She's also the chairperson of our foundation. I mean, she just does everything. And then we are so fortunate to have other people help. But she said we were trying to, everything we did we wanted to do based on what we thought the boys would like. Or if they were here, what they would do. And so many of, you know, their friends along with, you know, both of my boys and my oldest daughter. And then my daughter is the youngest one is expecting, but not ready for the diaper dash yet.

But she shouldn't be here until July or hey, we're not sure. They keep in it a surprise. they didn't want to find out. But Debbie, our chairperson, said, let's do a diaper dash because so many of the boys friends have babies now. So let's try to diaper dash. So that's going to be new. We're not sure how that's going to go.

You know, you never know with, you know, toddlers hoping that someone crosses the finish line, you know, but it's nice. The diaper dash, everyone's a winner. So everyone gets like a little baby gift, like who can pick one, you know. We'll just be happy if one of them, you know, I mean, I can see, you know, like them all just sitting around in the same area, but whatever. It'll just bring, I feel like, so much joy and love to, you know, what could have been, you know, the basis is such a sad time. But, you know, we're just trying to uplift everyone

and just do the best we can to get on with, you know, making the boys as proud of us as we possibly can. Yeah. Jane, I love those, you know the diaper dash videos when a baby gets like one inch away from the finish line? Yeah, and then they turn around. And they go back. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to need to get some side action going on on the diaper dash for sure.

Yeah. But I mean, Jane, I love what you said about the emphasis on building things around this event and all of these different things going on around what the boys loved. And, you know, the way that they showed love to other people and their community. And it is just so uplifting. seeing everything that the both of you are doing and the both of you are participating in. And, you know, it resonates so intensely how, you know, you're both just trying to take it a day at a time. And trust us, we get that. And I need you both to know from our perspective and from everyone in this community, you are both so otherworldly inspiring, doing all of these things,

being out in the community. Seeing you two in Milan was remarkable for us. And it's just, I know it feels impossible some days, but I love to hear that there are people coming up to the two of you saying how much you're inspiring them, how much strength that you're giving them, because you are really doing that. For the two of us, every time we see you guys out doing things like this and making sure that the spirit of your two boys who are two of the greatest people ever live on and we all get to learn more about them through things like this, it's unbelievable. And I just, I can't tell you how much we love to see it and why we were so excited to be a part of this in any small way that we can, because it is the actions of the two of you that are just giving us all so much strength and positivity and love and joy. And I hope that you both see that in the way everyone is reacting to this because it is, it's so important to, you know, keep the two of them alive. and their love continuing to shine and the way that you're both stepping up every day, it's unbelievable.

And, you know, I really hope that you can see that. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah, absolutely. And last year, it was, because I think the playground went up in October, if I remember correctly. Yeah. And it must have been so cool to see a tangible thing

come from the proceeds and everything. That's so awesome. And this year, can you talk about where the proceeds will go? This year, I know you're the presenting Spartan is the Holiday. ice arena and there's a youth hockey movement. Can you talk a little bit about what's happening with all the fundraising this year? Yeah, we kind of like geared ourselves towards when the kids were little, what they liked, and they loved hockey.

So with the grassroots of hockey, we're going to be involved in learning to skate, learn to play. And then we really got getting involved with the Atlantic District, which is our district for USA hockey with their sled hockey special needs blind hockey we're going to donate a large amount of the portions to them um so sorry sorry but anyway yeah so a lot of a big part of approaches will go to special needs hockey um we've been communicating with them and that they put a budget together and we hopefully we can give them a large amount of money so they can try to get kids that do need that want to play hockey that can't play hockey because they can't afford a sled or can't afford ice time can't afford USA hockey insurance so as you well know if you played hockey and your parents

obviously dedicated their lives to what if you're a hockey player you really don't have a life if you're a parent right you're from yeah right to rink and every penny you have goes to go towards hockey sticks and whatever. Same thing goes for special needs. You know, they can't afford a sled or can't afford ice time. Can't even afford the USA hockey insurance. So that's where we're going to put a lot of our money, but we're still going to get involved in trying to help kids that need help to get into hockey.

And then, you know, so we're going to be involved in trying to get more kids into hockey in South Jersey. Yeah, that's the best. Well, as Guy, I was going to say, I mean, I, first of all, as every hockey player can say, thank you both so much for being some of the best hockey parents in the world, because we do know how much you sacrifice for everything. But I love that you've stayed so involved. I mean, Guy, you are such a hockey guy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but were you on the ice last night or the night before playing in a pickup game?

Yeah, yeah. Last night. Last night. I still skate. Well, if you call it skating, I call it moving really, really, slow on skates. But, you know, these last two years are 20 months. My brain hasn't worked very well.

So I did do last winter. I worked with one of the rinks of their AAA teams and the Skills Clinic on Monday nights. It went fairly well. But, you know, I'm trying to get my brain back into it because before this all happened, that boys out mad found out he was having a little boy. And they both cornered me and said, well dad you're going to have to come out of retirement you have to coach our kids right you have to teach them out of play hockey and you taught it just the way you taught us and i'm like uh all right i'll do it for you guys

but uh so then we went through what we went through we're still going through and uh you know i know i made a promise to them the kids are getting a little older now so john's oldest one noah and johnny are close enough to the age where they can be on the ice and uh and then matthews little boy trip and uh john's younger and carter they're only about four or five months away from being on the ice. So I got to get these guys going. So again, I'm sure I'm not going to be the same coach I was before, but I'll try, do the best I can.

I think he'll be a little nicer choice for your children. Then he was just a son. Yeah, we've heard the stories about how you, you know, kind of a dictator out there with John and Maddie. But yeah, I'm sure. It wasn't just them. I was pretty hard on most. Yeah, that was the most kids.

that I worked with. I expected a lot out of them. Yeah, it was equal child abuse. Honestly, my favorite coaches. Yeah, exactly. That's how you learn. Exactly. I mean, it fires us up.

It was so funny. The summer of 2024, it was right before, you know, it was going to be the Four Nations and the Olympics. And John was really, you know, he's getting a little bit older. So now he's realizing, wow, like, it's not as easy just to, you know, pop out of bed and just play. like your best. So he decided that prior to this summer, Gie would say, I'm going to train you this summer to John and Maddie when they were playing. And they were like, yeah, no, no thank you.

You know, I'm done that. You're crazy, bad. So it was funny the summer of 2024, John decided that he really wanted to make, you know, he's always wanted to play in the Olympics. And he said, I want to win a Stanley Cup. I want to help my team. So he went to Guy and he said, dad, I really need you to train me this summer. Like, we're going to work together. And I want to be in the best shape. I possibly can. And he was like right on that. He was like, okay, that's great. And I was at work. I'm at my desk. And I get a and it's John a call. And I forget what he was calling me for. I think it was something like what time we were going to do something for dinner. I'm not sure. And I said, I said, where are you? You're in your car? And he said, he was talking on the Bluetooth. And I said, he goes, yeah. And I said, are you by yourself? He said,

why are you by yourself? And he goes, oh, I'm on my way to the rink. It's a skate. And I said, oh, really? I said, dad didn't say that when I left for work. I said, does he know, is he supposed to meet you? And he goes, shh, mom, don't tell him. Whatever you do, don't tell him. I have to go to the rank several times before that crazy man gets me on the ice and says that I'm out of shape. I can't, I'm not very fast. I can't do this. He said, I have to precondition to go to dad to get conditioned, you know? And it was just like so funny. And I was just like, that's exactly. what, you know, what Ghee would have said, you know, like, what have you been doing? You took off two weeks, you know, and John would be like, I just got done playing, Dad. Like, you know, people get vacation. And he goes,

but I, you know, took about three weeks and he goes, and I knew that I'm going to go on the ice like three or four times before I even tell Dad, so don't tell him. And I never told him. It was just, I think, just recently when someone had asked something about the Olympics and how important it was and that I told the story that he had heard because, you know, he didn't, he didn't know that, you know, that John was preconditioning before that became his coach again. But he, the boys of both said that. They said, he's probably the hardest coach we've ever had ever. Oh, yeah. The training before the training is even harder. I was going to say, smart guy, the preconditioning. That's how you survive. It's genius. That's so great. And then, and bringing up the Olympics, what, um,

Because, you know, we were there too, like Dan was just saying, and what an incredible experience that was and journey for those boys. And what was it like? Because I don't, because we, Dylan Larkin came on right after and was talking about a lot of it. And from everything he said, it was totally spontaneous. But what a moment bringing the kids out on the ice? What was that like for you guys to just watch that happen as the boys were winning a gold medal? Yeah, it was pretty cool.

Like we were just sitting in the stands and all the once I made eye contact with Dylan. and he was looking for us. And obviously, and then Matt Kachuk had called up Meredith and said, hey, we're going to bring the kids on the ice. So they came out and grabbed the kids and put them on the ice. What a great experience for the two kids, you know, and that's something they'll know or see. I don't know if they'll remember,

but they'll see pictures of it the rest of their life, right? Yeah. But, you know, I know most of those guys, and maybe you guys know most of them too, but they are great, great young men. I'm so proud of them to win the gold medal. They worked hard. They played as a team.

And it was really quite an honor to see and win the gold medal, you know. But, you know, on the flip side, there's part of me that was like, you know, hurting really bad because of John's... I could imagine my son being out there winning a gold medal for his country, which is a what he really wanted to do. And that was taken away from him. So, yeah. But, yeah, I was really proud of the boys doing for what they did. It was really quite an honor.

It just shows what special guys or men that they were to. At that point of time, they just won the Olympics in, you know, that the men's team had not done that in, you know, years and years and years. And where it should have been time for them thinking of. like, you know, what, you know, what it was all about them, that they took the time to think about, you know, one of their good friends, you know, and throughout the whole Olympics with John and Maddie and having their numbers in the locker room. It just means so much to our family that they would do that. And then, you know, on top of everything, you know, you're talking spontaneous.

Like, you know, you win, you know, goes into overtime. It's not like you were winning, you know, by three or four goals. It was, you know, it's down to the best. You know, it's down to the the wire and when they won to just do that and think about you know taking john's jersey and for the guys to be looking up in the stands for us it was just um it's just it just tells you what kind of people hockey players really are they're just you know i feel like they're just so you know so down to earth and just um just great people to do something like that you know for us like we of course expect that and then to see our grandchildren on the ice and then have the picture of them on the ice it was just um it was really you know amazing it was it was remarkable and it's also it's a testament

to the two amazing boys that you raised and it's a testament to you two and how incredible of parents you are of mentors you are coaches you are you know you don't get john and mattie without two amazing people like yourselves and that that shone through through that to the team, to all the fans, to all of the friends. And yeah, it's an amazing, it's an amazing thing, the family bond that you two created through your boys. And how much they want to carry them forward. Absolutely.

Olympic boys, Cole Coffield, you know, so many people making gestures. You know, it's really awesome. Yeah. And it's just so special. It's just so special to be even the smallest part of it and just to see it all. And it takes us back to why we're so thrilled and so impressed with the two of you to be, you know, help. and create this amazing moment, this amazing event that we've got coming up, that we can

continue to try to extend to so many people. So it's just so wonderful. And, you know, to see keep growing is going to be very fun. And the 5K, so if we're ever and listening, the 5K is just one piece of the Godreau family foundation. Yeah, yeah. So, so anything you can tell us about the foundation in general, more of more of what you've got going on there besides just the 5K? Well, right now with the 5K, the in-person at the park is closed. So now we're at the virtual. where virtual is, as much as I love the park and everything, the virtual is just equally as important to us because there's people running from all over the country

and we always ask them, wherever you're running, just please send us a picture. Show us what you're doing. We would love to see it. We just want to be involved because obviously we can't be everywhere, but it just makes us so happy. And, you know, we were hoping to get the virtual over 1,000. I think it's up, you know, I'm not sure exactly where it's.

at now. I know it was, excuse me, 800, 800, I think. But it was just, you know, it just means so much for people that are running in Canada and, you know, of course, the U.S., but, you know, in other countries. And as for the foundation, last year, because I work at a school for special needs, we already had a 501C, so we were able to use theirs. And we just raised all the money and just gave them all the money. We didn't have to have anything. And so many people came up to the at the 5K and said, I can't wait for next year. What are you going to do next year? And we were like, oh, wow. We didn't, we didn't really think about that. Like, you know, but, you know, so many people said, you know, it was great. We would love to come back. And we thought, well, you know, this is, you know, it's kind of twofold.

It's helping Gie and I, because when we get out and we're talking to different people at hockey, it's kind of like a little bit of a grief therapy for us because we're hearing all these wonderful stories and we get to talk about, you know, and I think, you know, for grieving parents, the most important thing you want to do is talk about, you know, the people that you've lost and just have everyone realize how special they are,

which we really didn't have to do because people were telling us. But so with the foundation, we realized that, excuse me, with the 5K, we realized that we wouldn't be able to do it this year we had to do something else. So we had to go into a foundation and the wives had a foundation and we certainly didn't want to, you know, infringe on them or compete with them at all. So we went and had a little bit of counsel, you know, talked to, you know, a couple attorneys.

And, you know, like they said, there's so much good that can be done in the world that you could have a half a dozen foundations and still not cover everything that, you know, John and Maddie probably would have wanted to do. So they encourage us to do the foundation, but we went back and we talked to our two daughters, and we went back and thought about, you know, if the wives are doing, you know, what was important to the, you know, their lives and to their husbands, we should go back to when our children were young.

So we asked our daughters, what was the most important thing? What do you remember about, you know, being little with our family and John and Maddie? And they said, well, hockey and dance of all things. Of course, it has to be the two that are the biggest, but hockey and dance and then the boys loved children they've always loved children when my oldest daughter had her children they couldn't wait to come the first was born they couldn't wait to come home from hockey they were like we want to get to playoffs but soon as playoffs are done we're we're we're home so they've always

had that very strong family connection where all four of my children are best friends they did everything together we went on vacation together then when they all got married their husbands and They became, you know, we just, it was just one big happy family, which was great. But we went back to our daughters and they said, you know, hockey, dance, children, and pets, animals. The boys both loved animals. They both had golden doodles. So it was just, you know, just going back to the very, very beginning, what was important to them as children. And that's kind of how we base the foundation on.

We did take off the dance because we thought, you know, like, you know, I mean, the boys were not dancers. Trust me. So we went with hockey, children and pets or animals. So that's kind of, you know, that's what we're going to base us all around. I love it. It's so good. It's so perfect. Well, listen, we're going to make, we're going to put a clip up.

Everything is going to be on the episode in our description, the link to sign up for the virtual. But we're going to make a clip. We're going to get it on socials. and we're going to get over 1,000 by the end of this weekend. Yeah, 100%. And get everybody's going to be running. Everybody's going to be running. That would be great.

Thank, yes. That's what our goal is. Over a thousand for the virtual. Trust us. We're going to make it happen. We're going to get over 100. We've been talking to Jillian about getting an L.A. A virtual walk here.

You know, tons of people here are excited to do it. But, yeah, we're going to get all the links, everything set up, all these clips going. There's ways to donate. And the merch store, dude. The merch store is incredible, by the way. Oh, my. God, I was cruising through that today. I'm going to buy 10 things off that site.

It's amazing. But we're going to push this as it deserves to be. Yeah. The logo's incredible. I was seriously. I was fired up. But I mean, Jane, Guy, we can't thank you enough for popping on and chatting with us. It's truly such a pleasure for us.

And, you know, we're going to let you go. I know you got plenty to do. Before we cut you loose, anything about the 5K, anything going on that you, you know, you want to shout out or talk about or make sure people know. about? We just want to thank everyone for everything they've done for us. Not only the 5K. The 5K is, of course, a small part of it, but just for helping us to keep John and Maddie's legacy going and just to, you know, helping our family feel better. And also, any pictures, anyone, if they can send us, tag us in there. Like, we just, Jillian is amazing with keeping everything up to date.

And it's just like, at night, that's what they do. Sometimes I'm, I'm, for like hours just looking at like the different pictures and and the things that you know people have done so you know anyone that you know does the virtual please make sure they just send it perfect yeah we're on it we're gonna blow it we'll be snap we'll get that up on our page as well so the put the photos are going to be flooding in we're going to have a day of it it's going to be you know it all right well to the both of you we again we can't thank you enough for sending you all of our love and strength and we're we're looking forward to this it's going to be fantastic thanks guys we really much guys we really really appreciate it.

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