Empty Netters Podcast - The Leafs Are Geniuses | EP.208

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ice is ready and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM Live from Helsingborg, Sweden. I am your host, Dan Powers on along with me. He is the sickest man to ever live. He is also the greatest roommate in the history of human beings. Chris Bowers. As always. Oh, man. emotional weekend emotional weekend we're drained dude we're drained oh dude can't i mean
Starting point is 00:00:39 the walls are bare you've seen me do zooms from here before with cool pictures behind us i'm not even going to turn the camera around um yeah god dude i will miss it very much yeah it was the best place in the world dude people people followed along the story uh we don't need to spend too much time on it because we'll both get emotional and just start crying again. Correct. But the great, listen, I'll put, I'll put that house and that run up against any house in the history of Los Angeles. And we would absolutely beat the wheels off of them.
Starting point is 00:01:15 There's no question about that, sir. No question on earth. Yep, that's right. And here we go. The, you know, the new journey, the new journey begins. I'm overseas right now while we figure out. how to put a roof over my head. And I'll tell you what, CP.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I pulled a move that I do believe is an original DP. I swear on my future children that I did not get this from anyone else. This is an idea that came to mind. And I will say it came to mind because of the packing. Packing up the house, packing up all my shit. I saw an item and I went, oh, yeah, okay, I'm going to pack that. And then I went, wait a minute. maybe I won't pack that.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Maybe I won't pack that up. Maybe I'll pack that in my carry-on. I had a flight from L.A. to J.F.K. Then JFK to Copenhagen. And that JFK to Copenhagen was a long run. It was going to be a sort of red eye in that eye would land in Copenhagen at 6.30 in the morning. So it's going to be crucial to sleep on that flight. So what did I do, CP?
Starting point is 00:02:26 I used the big brain. I use that giant, giant noggin that you've had since birth. And that's a fact of people don't know that. I was a big-headed child. I packed, sir, a pair of slippers in my carry-on. And when I got on that flight and when it came time to sleep, got on the flight, had a nice meal, had some Chipotle chicken and steamed veggie. had a glass of wine to help the sleeps come towards me.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Mix that wine with some medication. Classic, classic stuff. But I pulled out my blanket. I pulled out my pillow. And I know a lot of people are wishy-washy on their, or you're taking the shoes off from the plane. Our good friend Kevin Fiala is fine with it. He says his feet don't stink.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah, never has. Even if your feet don't stink, I feel like you get some judgmental looks. I feel like people will always be like, ooh, that guy just took his shoes off on the plane. So what I did was I maximized comfort and also made sure to not disrupt anyone around me. I popped off the shoes and I quickly slipped my socked feet into my slippers. And it was incredible. It felt amazing. I looked amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I even got a look from an older gentleman who, went, that is a great move, sir. And I went, I just came up with it. And he goes, I'm going to have to copy that. And I go, you, hey, it's free. Yeah. It's free right now. But I'll tell you what, man, you know, when you pull a move and you go, you immediately go, oh, this is fucking genius. That's what, that's what was going on. You slept like a baby, I bet. Oh, I slept like a baby. It's the best sleep I've ever done on a plane. And it was the confidence, I think. The confidence, gave me those extra Zs for sure. I like that take a lot that it helps up here too, not just down there.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Oh, listen. It helps up here. Sleeping on a plane is a mental game, even if you think it or not. You're always thinking about, you know, am I, I mean, you're a big twitcher. Like, you start throwing arms and pray for the people next to me, dude. They land with black eyes. And then you also wonder if you're doing this thing? Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:52 mouth open looking like an absolute buffoon but i didn't care about that my mouth was probably probably probably throwing snacks in there and i wasn't even noticing because i was sleeping so deeply because of my slippers but i'll tell you pro move i i don't even own slippers because i am not a take the shoes off when you walk in the house guy which most people have slippers for that reason um And I'm such a hobbit with, I'm just barefoot all the time, you know, I like being barefoot. And the bottoms of your feet are black. Yeah. Black as night.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. And, but I could see myself, and dude, I've purchased slippers before to be like, I'll wear them. And I just don't. Like, I just, I can't break the habit. But I could actually see myself, after hearing about this move, I could see myself purchasing specifically plain slippers. Like, I don't use them ever, except for when I need to sleep on a plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 That I could do. Arrow slips. Arrow slips. That would be a solid move. Dude, we could start a business. Like, you know how you go into Hudson News and there's neck pillows everywhere? Right next to them is going to be aeroslips. Arrow slips.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Bang. In fact, I think- No one fucking steal this. Yeah. No one steal it. Delete this. Wags. Wags. Delete this.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I am verbally patenting this. this is patented verbal uh i wonder if you know how sometimes airlines when you're on a nice flight it's like they hand you a bag if you have a red eye they hand you a little baggy and it's like here's an eye mask and like a blanket or whatever um we we should get this in that bag you know we we should get the airlines to buy i mean i guess the airlines are going broke anyway so fuck them but this could bring them back dude uh you you you sparked me on two things during this story one I have been doing this on flights, which you and Red saw a million times during the finals.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I get on planes, and they're either fucking freezing or scorching. And I usually have a hoodie on, and I'll take it off when I go on. You stole this for me. No, dude. You stole this for me. If you're about to say the reverse hoodie move, you saw me do that.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But only arms on. Like, you put the hoodie on backwards. I've done that too I go only arms in hoodie So because that's the only place I get cold It's like right here Like on the plane I'm always like my arms are so cold So I go only arms on
Starting point is 00:07:29 Hoodie just like here Like crunched up in front of me And then hood up over my face No one can see your mouth open Perfect temp Black Dude dude shut up What are they like the storm shades
Starting point is 00:07:46 You know Harkin shut out curtains Blackout curtains Boom. Done, dude. See you later. It's a problem. It's hilarious, though. It's my move.
Starting point is 00:07:54 It's hilarious when you're in aisle, though, because someone needs to get up and they like tap you and I'm like, what? They're like, can I get out, dude? You go like that and you're like hairs everywhere. Your glasses are like fogged up probably and you're like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Can I help you? And then here's the other thing. When you said you had wine and a little medication to get your right, to get you all lined up, split your differential. By the way, I do not recommend that. If there are any kids listening, that's not what we do. We do not mix.
Starting point is 00:08:23 We do not mix wine and medication. Dude, you, I was dying, laughing at myself Sunday day because we had the house send off Saturday. And, you know, you were up all night to get to the flight. And then I was up like, wow, gas. I was up. It's a Swedish beer. I was up. That's so sad.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I might have one right now. I was up truly all night till, you know, till like nine in the morning. Yeah. Go to bed, wake up at like 1 p.m. to, like, move and everything. And I am wrecked from the night before. So, dude, I became a fucking chem. Because, dude, there's no time for me to be hungover. Like, I need to go.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So. Well, are you about to tell me that you created a hangover here? No. But, like, you should have seen me in the lab. I had like, you know, it was like wake up and I was like, oh God. So it's like huge water into two frozen pediolite pops. Ah, nice. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Into two Advil, bang. A gator light electrolyte drink. Good. Into a Bloody Mary bang. Into a Zophran nausea pill. Bang. into like some bread like toast you know wait you had some nausea going that's rare no i was just doing i was just like i literally was like concording whatever could work and like all
Starting point is 00:10:01 these things there was like bubbling and turning green and i was like by two by two 30 i was like okay let's get the you all going and i was like man that was awesome you were in potions class just i was doing all the things like i'll never drink again but also like maybe maybe some bloody Mary, maybe a little gummy, you know, just like I've got to get out of here. That could have helped. Yeah. You could never be sure.
Starting point is 00:10:26 That could have helped. Special stuff. Man, well, I'm telling you, these are some game changing moves that we're talking about here. And speaking of game changing moves, this is our free agency episode, folks. We are dropping this episode immediately so the people can hear what's going on in free agency. It is the 30th of June right now. We are on the eve of free agency. agency. So we're going to give you a crash course rundown and what's gone on, what we think about
Starting point is 00:10:52 those moves, and then all of the players that are coming up that we're keeping our eyes on. We got to just jump right into the CP because we have absolutely no time. No time. There is no time. Starting off, I think the big one, Noah Dobson traded to the Montreal Canadiens for Emil Heineman, a 2025 first-round pick, which was already used. Two, excuse me, two 2025 first-round picks. Dobson immediately signs the McAvoy deal eight years by 9.5 mil. Dobson and Lane Hudson are now going to be on the same PP most likely,
Starting point is 00:11:25 absolutely out of control. How do you feel about this move? What do you think it means for both teams? I love everything the Montreal Canadians did last year. It was so awesome. I had predicted they were going to be way better, but it was too early for them to be, to make playoffs, certainly.
Starting point is 00:11:44 wrong, but they are going to be such a fun team, such a bright future. I have been so high on Dobson this whole time. So have I. I know. So I could never understand the Islanders fans' weird displeasure with him recently. So I love the move for Montreal. There were so many things swirling about Dobson wants 11 mil and all this shit. And maybe that's what we're saying.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I don't know. You know, whatever. But I think that stuff's always bullshit. It's like it's the same, same nonsense with sway. It's like some douchebag writer says it to try to villainize them to the fan base or something like that. I don't think there was any world where Dobson thought he was worth the 11 mil. Getting him for 9.5, I think is great. Honestly, well, I guess you're buying the potential.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Like, it's almost like too high for me where I'm like, dude, chill. But like, you're not that good. Not that many guys make over 10 million. But go ahead. he's 73 points or something two years ago. Like the kid is special, man. I don't. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:12:49 We're in an NHL that values offensive defensemen. Yes. For better or worse. And it's ironic because I feel like we have talked about this before. You look at the teams take away Colorado who have won the cup most recently. And they don't have these offensive defensemen. They have dogs. They have great defensive shutdown defensemen.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And yet we still keep paying all these offensive guys. Yep. And the caps going up and you're buying the potential. so I can live with it. When we had originally been talking, and then from the Islander's perspective, I was like, you've been hearing,
Starting point is 00:13:20 oh, they're going to move up into the first round again, which they obviously did, but I thought top 10, maybe they trade Dobson to Boston for seven or whatever. And I was like, I think that's,
Starting point is 00:13:33 I don't know if I like that trade for them, but to get two picks next year, which everybody says is such a bigger, or sorry, sorry, they got two picks this year. Yeah, I was like, no, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 To get two picks. picks this year late, I was like, I didn't know if that was worth it to me. Like I might have just kept Dobson. But he was RFA. That is the thing that you have to remember. And like, you're about to get Schaefer, which obviously they took and they put their eggs in the shafer basket. Basically, I just don't think, I think the Islanders decided that to them, Noah Dobson
Starting point is 00:14:08 was not worth 9.5 mil a year, especially when they had Schaefer coming in. So they went, can we get two first round picks for this? And the answer is yes. So it's like, yeah, they did it. I mean, it's if he had term or something like that, then yeah, you would want more. To me, I thought it was a great trade. I think it's a great trade for both. I think Montreal keeps making moves to continue to be a playoff threat.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Like they want to make it to the second, third round. They want to get to a Stanley Cup sooner rather than later. So I thought it was a big, it was a big ball's move. and I'll also say I love it for the Islanders. I really, for the first time in a long time, I actually think what the Islanders are building is pretty interesting. When you look at the prospects they have, I don't think that they're going to make playoffs.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I'm going to pick them to be the same thing every year, this like bubble team that either makes it or doesn't quite make it. And as of right now, I don't think that they're going to make it. And I actually think that's okay with like, we need Iserman to get in the mix here. We need Schaefer. I mean, the kid is, he's going to turn 18 right, before the first game of the season, like a month before.
Starting point is 00:15:15 So, like, I don't need this kid playing 82 games, possibly. I wouldn't be shocked if we saw Leo Carlson treatment with Matthew Schaefer. Yeah. But I am very excited if I'm an Islanders fan. So I like this move for them. And if I'm the habs, I'm like, fuck yeah, dude. Like, you have one of, if not the most dangerous offensive blue lines in the NHL now. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Dude, my buddy Kyle, who's an Islander's fan, texted me about this. And he was excited. He was like, like you just said, Dan, you know, this is the rebuild we needed. Like, we're retooling with all these guys and let's go. And he was like,
Starting point is 00:15:47 I love that the Islanders will have sent Taze and Dobson to be like the perfect partners for McCar and Lane. You know, like, here you go, dude. And I was like, yeah, wow, that's fucked.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And then also I just wanted to say on Schaefer, dude, uh, that I got, we got so many texts about this. Everybody was like, you know, there's no. prospect that's generational in this draft, blah, blah, blah, and God knows what kind of
Starting point is 00:16:16 player Matthew Schaefer will become. But I have never been like, oh, I'm not that interested in this year's draft, swing 180 into I will literally die for Matthew Schaefer. I know, man. In one 10, 10 minute span, dude. Like, and I think people knew some of his story. There's an amazing YouTube video out for his full story. I'm not going to get into it, but just the emotion on that kid and his family and everything and the way he was like so respectful of everybody. He is like literally I've never rooted for somebody harder that I don't know personally or anything about in my whole life. The emotional journey that that kid has gone through with his mother, with his billet mom and just his family, the way they've rallied around each other is absolutely out of this world.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And our buddy Tommy from home, Texas, and was like, has there ever been a more likable draft pick in the history of the NFL? than this kid. And it's true. We're going to get him on the pod here whenever he's, whenever he's ready. But what a stud, man. Oh, my God. I couldn't be rooting for this kid harder. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, I understand. It's amazing. I know. Let's stick with the Nick Haig is the next one up that we're going to talk about. Big trade that just popped off. He was an RFA in Vegas, traded to Nashville for Jeremy Lozahn at 2 million cap hit. Colton Sizzins at a 2.85 million cap hit. Hague immediately signs a four-year 5.5-a-a-a-a-a-deal, essentially saves Vegas about
Starting point is 00:17:44 $1 million in space. This one felt almost like a, like, I want to say a nothing burger. It feels like a continued cap-space move out. Everyone knows what Vegas is up to. We've talked to this on the podcast before. Vegas is after Marner. They're probably, if not definitely the front runner right now. I know there are many other teams, L.A. being one of them. Carolina is a big sleeper that's making a push for, for Marner. We have not yet said that. And here I am saying it right now in the pod.
Starting point is 00:18:14 But that is like Vegas has all of their eggs in the real world basket, to quote, Ricky Bobby. Yeah. Like they are, they're going all in for Marner. This one feels like to me like they went, yeah, we're going to have to pay Hager probably five and a half mil. And they were like, we can't do that if we want to go get this guy. He's a Stanley Cup winner.
Starting point is 00:18:34 He's a big, big boy. he's gritty. We saw him getting really tough and nasty against Matthew Kachuk, one of the best rats and best guys of getting under your skin when they won the cup against Florida. So it's definitely a loss. And when you look at it as really only saving one mill, we have to assume that Sizzins and Lausanne might just be moved quickly here.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Like this might be a quick stop shop in Vegas. I would not be surprised to see them on the move. I saw a lot of reaction online. that loved this move for Vegas under the assumption that these guys aren't quick stop shops. They're like, oh no, this is a fleece. They're going to fit in that Vegas system
Starting point is 00:19:17 wonderfully for so cheap. And it was time to move on from Hager anyway. Trots is cooked, you know, all that stuff. I do kind of, I thought it was good business. Like, I do kind of like the fit in Vegas. I just, I love Vegas, too. I think that's the problem. I just think they've built
Starting point is 00:19:35 something's good and you can, when you can get guys like this for this cheap that can plug in. Yeah. I'm like, that's a nice play. I wouldn't be surprised
Starting point is 00:19:46 if they are shipped out immediately. Like you said, if that does happen, I won't be in shock. But I'm not, maybe I'm not expecting it as much as you are because I think there's a chance that they're like,
Starting point is 00:19:57 no, dude, these are the type of guys you need and I'm happy with this. Yeah. I think Lozons, he's a solid little player. He, for me, is a guy, like, you know, we teased on the pod. We had heard got a little bit of insight source on Petro.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And that Petro, his season is done. It just broke actually today officially. His season is done and maybe further, which is devastating. You hate to see that. He's going to have multiple surgeries coming up this summer. He is a guy that you need in the lineup, both to eat minutes, but also to mentor players like Lizon, like really kind of set the standard. So you wonder, you know, you wonder, is Lozon going to be as effective on this Vegas team if he stays on this roster without Petro in the lineup?
Starting point is 00:20:44 I think it's impossible to say yes. It's not to say he won't be effective or successful. I just don't, I think he would have been even more if Petro was there. So that is absolutely something to keep an eye on. I think I'm paying sharp attention to those guys and if they stay with this team. Yeah. So that's an interesting one. let's move to Boston
Starting point is 00:21:07 a couple of big ones in Boston after you can call it luck you can call it whatever but James Hagen's fell to seven in the draft Don Sweeney made the right pick he didn't hesitate for a second and that deserves a handshake which yes dude I'm so pumped gets James Hagen's Boston people
Starting point is 00:21:23 are absolutely fired up and then right on the heels of that CP RFA Morgan Geeky signed six years at 5.5 aave way lower than people were assuming or projecting A lot of people thought that that season, the finish of last year that Geeks had, was just a perfect model for a classic overpay, a classic Don Sweeney overpay. People were guessing 6.5 up to 7.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Gets him at 5.5. Geeky is 26 years old, had 33 goals and 24 assists last year for 57 points, played the majority of the last half of last season with Pasta and Lindholm. Pasta assisted on 21 of Geeky's 33 goals. Was he a beneficiary of David Posternak's elite? heart level play, no question. But if we keep geeky on that left wing and have whomever between him and pasta, who gives a shit? Like if this is now a 30-goal guy
Starting point is 00:22:16 at 5.5 a year, that's fucking phenomenal. And then right on the heels of that, an important, rare, right-shot D-Man, Henry Yokhiariu signs a 3-by-3 with Boston, 25 years old, 10 points in 60 games like the last year, played for Team Finland at Four Nations. He's had some trouble staying healthy in his career, but I like him. He's a classic third player guy.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And I said to you, we were standing in our living room, RIP, after that pickup, I was like, you know what? I really, I like Yoki Harge. Like, I like this player. I think he's young and he's raw, and I think he could be a really solid, solid guy for the bees. Well said, dude, a summer, what's the like, doesn't George Costanza have like a summer? isn't there a Seinfeld schick
Starting point is 00:23:05 where George has like the summer of hope or something? Summer of George, dude. Yeah, yeah, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. But anyway, this is like, this is the summer, this is a summer in Boston that I haven't been excited about in a while.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You know, Chris, it's the summer of dawn. It's the summer of dawn. It's the summer of dawn. And I'm excited about that. We've shit on dawn plenty, rightfully so, in my opinion. But this is why we are the fucking best, dude.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm going to stroke us off. This is why we are the best podcast around is because we don't sling around bullshit and we are fucking as unbiased as you will ever find right now don't swini is having an amazing summer and he deserves every fucking pat on the back and we've been giving it to him yeah he's he's doing a phenomenal job this summer with what he has he's and don't forget he has two fucking first round picks in the 2026 draft hell yes dude the most important drafts is 2015 i bet on is d on is viving i bet he's like lost 10 pounds dude i bet he's fucking cut up eating right sit in the gym he's no dod
Starting point is 00:24:03 He's got a hammer. Yeah, too. Right now. Yeah, yeah. Swole. Fuck, dude. This is awesome. I really, I loved everything he said.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Remember when it was kind of like, um, uh, crachy, Luchich and like, what? Horton? Yeah, but there was, it was like blank. Like, there was always that just like person over that, you know, it's like, okay, whatever. I'm fine with that just like being geeky. again on this first line. You know, it's like, Lindholm, pasta. And I'm like, okay, like, now it's geeky.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And if he can even sniff this production. Yeah. Like, if he, I don't even know if he's going to get 30 again. But if he can score 25 goals, obviously if he keeps his production, I'm thrilled. But if he can score 25 goals consistently, then you love that number, especially with the cap, which we're going to say like 50 times in this episode, but you love that number. Yeah. I was big on I didn't want him to come back because I feared the overpay.
Starting point is 00:25:03 and I fear the regression. But this number I can live with and I can talk myself into, he's a 25 goal guy. And I love that. Yoki Haru, him, the same, I feel the same,
Starting point is 00:25:16 what I was about to say about Lausanne is the, this, you need guys like this at this number who are pretty good. And that's what you have here. You know, I love the lore ideal. I love this deal. Just continue to build up that blue line with guys.
Starting point is 00:25:33 character guys like this. And I just love his age. I love his age so much. I love Boston's history with Finns. Yeah. I just, I think, you know, we're just such big fans of Charlie McAvoy, big fans of Hamas, Lindholm. Like, I think they're great veterans who are good at teaching young players. When you get a guy like Charlie McAvoy who learn from Zdena Chara, and then I look at a guy
Starting point is 00:25:56 like Mason Luride who's going to learn from Charlie now. And I look at a guy like Henry who can learn from Charlie, who can learn from Hamas, can learn from Zadorov. I think that that's a step in rebuilding the culture here in Boston that we've talked about that needs to be replenished. And Charlie seems up for the task. The leadership he showed with Team USA at Four Nations, you got a new great coach, a European coach in Marco Sturm.
Starting point is 00:26:21 You've got this European player. I'm excited about it. And again, all he needs to be is a third-paring guy. And if he's even better than that, phenomenal. But it looks like the model that we've seen be successful in. Florida with guys like Mikala, you know, with guys like Kulikov. Like it's, it's exciting. So I think it's really good work. And, you know, they're not huge ones, but on top of that, you got guys like who's Nadinoff that you picked up, picked up in the trade with Minnesota, who is extended for
Starting point is 00:26:51 two years. You get Beecher back on another year. So it's just like good stuff out of Boston. Staying in the division, Toronto, also the summer of Brad. This is good work here, dude. This is some of the best work we have seen from the Toronto Maple Leafs in a long time. And if they are little bitches, Elliot Friedman said that there might be some tampering stuff going on where Toronto's bitched about the tampering with Vegas and martyr and it might turn into a sign and trade because of that. That's the case. Toronto, I think you're being fucking babies. Fuck off. Soft tampering happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Every team does it. And to all the fans going, rules are rules. Shut the fuck up. Sorry. I just think you need to shut the fuck up. This is how it goes. how do you think stuff breaks at fucking 7 a.m. on deadline day. Was that a quick call at fucking three in the morning?
Starting point is 00:27:38 No, guys, this is how it works. And when your team benefits from it, you don't say shit. So everyone quiet down. I don't even get tampering, dude. Like, literally, I don't understand. The season's over. I'm like, talk to whoever the fuck you want. What is the point of the rule?
Starting point is 00:27:52 They're like, no, you can only talk to your team. They need to have that extra window. And I'm like, why? I legitimately don't know, Chris. I think it's probably for like the purposes of teams in in the playoffs still. Like, you know, they couldn't get to work, but I'm like, whatever, man. I don't get the point. But Matthew Nyes, who was a massive possible offer sheet contender, we've been talking about
Starting point is 00:28:14 it all season long, fantastic player for them, signs a six year by 7.75 a year. That would have been in the compensation range of a first, second, and third if someone War to have offer sheeted him. Toronto gets to work early on this. He's a massive player for this team. He's got more grit than we've seen from players on this team in a long, long time. He's young. He's huge.
Starting point is 00:28:40 He's just a solid player. Great to get that done. And then John Tavares signs the team friendly. Four years, 4.38 mill a year. What do you have? 38 goals last year? People are like he's washed. He's like...
Starting point is 00:28:54 Is that true? Yeah. I think he had I think he had, I think he had 80, 81 points in 82 games and 38 goals. Is that right? Did I just nail that? He did have 38 goals. 38 goals, 36 assists, 74 points. In 75 games. Okay, it was one, yeah, I knew it was one point less than one game.
Starting point is 00:29:18 So, yeah, 74 and 75 and 38 goals. That is so fucking dope. People are like, he's washed, dude. He's not the same player. And I'm like, well, sure, he's not the same player, but you're an idiot. If that's washed up, then whoever is saying, that from their fucking couch in their living room, you should be buried six feet underground, you fucking plug.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You pig. You fat pig. He is such a good player. And dude, to get him on that low term, to get Nyes under eight, which, you know, I don't think anyone expected to be over eight, but to get him under eight, six years, like, this is just great shit from tree. Toronto, Toronto's laughing. I was salivating for a Maddie Nye's offer sheet.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I think we all were. And I was salivating for, because I wanted him to leave, because I think he's incredible. And Toronto's scary. And I think, or I wanted them to overpay for him, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:15 and then nothing. They got him. And remember when we had Kiprios on and he was like, they've been dying for that wing. They haven't had that wing position locked up in a while. Yeah. And he's great, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:27 He's just so great. That's such a good number. I'm thrilled for him and the Leafs. And I fucking love John Tavares. I always have. And the slander he's taken is insane. And I just give him a ton of credit, dude, because that is not a lot of money in today's NHL.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And especially for the production that he's consistently giving you. And that's the kid who went to bed in Maple Leafs P.Js and Maple Leafs, and Maple Leafs bet sheets, you know, taking that deal right there. And yeah, it'll be 38 when it's over and whatever. But, like, that is a fucking, he's the myth. And he lost the sea, and he's doing that still. And I said it to you, man, like, it makes leaving the Islanders look even better. Like, him taking this hometown discount and staying there through all the bullshit.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yep. It's just like, it's clear he really does love this team. He loves living in Toronto. So I'm like, yep, okay, this makes sense. It's amazing, dude. Moving on, Charlie Coyle and Miles Wood. Wood traded to Columbus for Gavin Brindley, a 2025 third, and a conditional 2027 second round pick. A lot of people were going nuts saying that the abs got this one in a slam dunk.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Now, I think this is a rare win-win. I love Charlie Coil and Columbus. Yeah, he's so perfect for a guy like Adam Fantilli. He is just a really great consummate pro, a locker room favorite. He's a perfect third-line center. I think he'll fit in great there. and Woody is just a solid, gritty, nasty player who will add to that team. I think about what they could have used to help them make playoffs.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Both those guys fit that bill. Gavin Brindley, going the other way. He's an amazing player. I love Gavin Brindley. I think he's a Michigan boy. Of course I love him. And then you get some picks, which Colorado desperately needs. They need more prospects.
Starting point is 00:32:17 They need more pieces like that. This to me is a cool win-win, and I do think I'm going to continue to say that feels like a big, very clear cap, clap. Yep. Yep. Yep. Cap clear out for Colorado that I'm like, okay, what are we doing with that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Looks like you've got just over 8.7 mill available, Colorado. Do it. Do it. God damn it, dude. Yeah, dude, I am happy. I think, I mean, it was crazy when Colorado went out and got coil. and Brock and all this stuff, and it just, you couldn't keep them all likely. Coil has, at this point, has been moved a lot.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Similar to, though, to what you were saying about Toff the other day, where it's like, he's been moved a lot, and it's like, it's not that crazy though, right? Like, oh, shit, breaking news, dude. Yes, what is it? The Toronto Maybleaves have just acquired Matthias Machetele from Utah. Conditional third is the return. That is an, that's an interesting move. Brad, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Come on. Is this you tweeting? Is this you tweeting in real time? Yep. Get it up. Get it up. That's great. Maple Leafs are not fucking around.
Starting point is 00:33:41 They're not fucking around. I like that. I don't have much to add on this one, Dan. I love it for both teams because I think Colorado wants to do something. I think they are extremely frustrated with their lack of success. recently. And they tried, they made some big moves. We had, there were no excuses last year.
Starting point is 00:34:04 You made some massive moves. Miko Raton and gone. And you lose to Dallas in the first round. And it's like, are you fucking kidding me? So they're creating space to do something else, to pivot again, to try to win a fucking cup in this window. So that I now have the room to do that. And I really do love coil on Columbus.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I think Columbus was so fucking fun this year. And he's a, he's a good player. Great. Okay, and then the final trade we'll discuss before we get into some free agents, JJ Peturca, that was one of the big first ones of all this madness, traded to Utah Mammoth for Michael Kesselring and Josh Dohn. Peturka immediately signs a five-year by 7.7 mil AAV deal. Buffalo fans were losing their minds, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:45 They were like, we are an absolute disaster, we suck, and our boy, J.D. was like, this is a rare Buffalo win. He loves Kesselring. He loves the ceiling of Done. and it's it's this is a confusing one um and i'm like shit okay i just think but turka is good and young and like you just want shiny toys like that when you're the sabers and now they especially do when you just be you appear to be just a fucking feeder team remember like that happens in pro soccer in like European soccer a lot where like these young small clubs just get pilfered by the rich big
Starting point is 00:35:29 clubs and you're like great we're just a feeding ground and when you look at Eichel and Reiner and Montor and blah blah blah Buffalo's like what is this dude we just ship out all our young good players so I think it's PTSD from that um but they got some cool young players back so you know it's okay It's going to be okay. That's what I'm saying, man. I don't think that that one is something that. There's a lot of things that Buffalo needs to be losing their mind about, but this one isn't that.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It was clear that Petrka wasn't trying to stay in Buffalo, and, you know, here we go. So you had to make a move. I think you got two good pieces back, Buffalo fans. Again, I understand being frustrated, but I don't think that's one to lose your mind about. One more piece of breaking news. Vlad Tarasenko, heading to the Minnesota Wild for future considerations from Detroit.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Dude, I love this. Check his, what is his stats last year? But dude, I was so high on him getting to Ottawa. Remember two years ago, Ottawa? I was like, they did it. This is the big push. Otto was back in the playoffs. And then it all went to fucking hell and everyone got shipped out of town.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And I was like, man, that was a nightmare. I think this guy has game still. And I need you to tell me what he did last year. But I think the wild feel as though they were health bugged away from making a real run last year. Right? Like they had so much. They were dominating to start the season in first place, Krill going to win MVP.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Then everybody gets hurt. They finish as a wild card. And then give Vegas a fucking fight. But don't do it. This, I don't know, dude, this guy playing with, not literally with Krill, but just like in the room with Krill,
Starting point is 00:37:36 I think this dude could give you depth scoring that A will help people get hurt and B is just going to be awesome to fill out that roster. And for nothing, for literally nothing. Yeah. I mean, like, I like the move by Detroit because it clearly wasn't working anymore. Yeah. And, yeah, I just, I do think they need that.
Starting point is 00:38:05 We're going to get into it in a second with Minnesota and like every team's needs. But like, yeah, like they need more wing scoring. Like I look at Mojo being on your top two lines and I'm like, come on, that can't be it. But like, is old Vlad that, I don't know. 11 goals, 22 assists, 33 points in 80 games last year. Yeah, like that ain't it. But dude, he did 14 points in 19 games when he got shipped to Florida for like, you remember when Ottawa sent him out?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah. So I'm like, dude, it's, it's, there's something in there and he had 41 and 57 for Ottawa before they traded him. Like there's, there's a little magic in there, dude. I love that for the wild. Yeah. All right, let's move on to some free agents, starting with, obviously. Mitch Marner.
Starting point is 00:38:48 To me, Mitch Marner, I mean, let's go down the list here. We're going to quick hit a lot of these players. 28 years old, 102 points last year,
Starting point is 00:38:56 career high. Vegas seems to be the front runner. As we said, L.A.'s in the mix. Cains are in the mix. We're hearing reports that it's going to be
Starting point is 00:39:09 a two-year deal in Vegas, which is so strange to me. I don't understand it in the slightest. There's also reports Friedman has been saying it is going to be an eight-year deal. We also have the reports that there might be a sign-in-trade with Toronto. Either way, Vegas does seem to be the odds-on favorite.
Starting point is 00:39:24 We've been talking about that. We were one of the first a couple weeks ago to say, Marner to Vegas is an inevitability. I believe it still is. However, the mess around this has become very interesting to watch. Oh, yeah, no, it's insane, Dan. I will be you did you talked about the tampering shit before I need to say it again because I feel the same way I still think it'll be Vegas uh but I want some fireworks you know like we we always say we never get
Starting point is 00:39:58 UFAs like this yeah and we have one and I just I hope it's like Carolina from the clouds or something insane or it's not they don't get forced to do a sign and trade so I'm like okay then fuck that we didn't even get the cool UFA thing. So give me some madness here. I want the madness as well. Next up, one that's been talked about with trades, with everything, Brock Besser. 50 points last year, 25 goals and 75 games, 40 goals the year before, 20 years old. We're here in Boston.
Starting point is 00:40:27 We're hearing Minnesota that feels to be like one of the favorites. Obviously, the hometown return makes a ton of sense. How do you feel about Brock Besser? Love the player. I've got to be Minnesota. I feel like I was saying that all. last year. I was like, oh, so excited for Bester to be a wild player next year. My money's on that one. We'd love him in Boston, no doubt, but my money's on Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, I think so, too. I would like to see someone make a push on him. I think Besser with the right guys is a... Yeah, it's a weapon, dude. He can score. It's not easy to score 40. Yeah. Next up, Nikolai Eelers. Nikolai Eelers, just with the Jets, 29 years old. Eelers, as first reported by us, earlier this week, or end of last week. Eelers going to be signing with the Carolina Hurricanes, five years, 8.5 mil, unless something crazy happens in the last minute. Know that there are a lot of teams making a push.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Seattle, Anaheim, Toronto, Winnipeg still in the mix, and the Sends all heavy on Eilers as well as the New York Rangers. New York Rangers were definitely one that Eilers considered for sure, playing in New York, very appealing. He's 29 years old. he had, he has had 20 plus goals in eight of his 10 seasons, 63 points and 69 games last year. I think he's phenomenal. Great player.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And I think the idea of him playing with Aho and Seth Jarvis is just like we talk about, like the Keynes kind of need more stars. I think Eilers is a star. And I think a full, healthy season playing with a playmaking center like Ajo and a guy, a guy who's going to do all the gritty work like Jarvie could be unreal. for that Keynes team. Same. No, it's, it's, uh, I'm really excited. And that this is going to be a big offseason for them too, obviously.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Um, they have all the criticism in the world of, you know, can't get it done. And they got a retool again, kind of. Um, so I'm excited to see what they do. And this is a good first step. Yeah. Uh, Mikhail Granland up next. He's going to be a big one. 66 points in 82 games last year with the Sharks and the Ducks.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Had an amazing four nations. He was really great in the playoffs. He's played for five teams in his career, 33 years old. I feel like he is going to sort of be like tough last year in that he's looking for a four or five-year deal with a no-move clause, get some stability. And I think he's earned it. We know that right now he's meeting with Dallas again. They're eager to get something done. But there are other teams who could use Granny for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Oh, my God, dude. Everybody could use Granny. The blues are heavy on Granny. I know that. Yeah, that would be a fun one. And he's got to be, I'm sure he's looking for contention too. I know he wants the no move and shit, but it's like, I bet he wants to be in the mix again. I agree.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Like, I think seeing him play Four Nations, him leaving the Sharks going to Dallas and performing as well as he did in the playoffs. I think he was just like, I think he had like eight points and ten games or something in the playoffs. I do see him preferring a contender. I'd like to see him stay in Dallas. Yeah, yeah. The Finnish Mafia was really fun to see. I think he'd be successful there.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Dallas obviously has some cap stuff to figure out. But I would like to see him stay there. But no matter who gets him, I do think we're going to see something like a, you know, four years, I would guess, you know, like eight, seven to eight mill. And I do think we're going to get that no move for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Patrick Kane up next. He had 59 points in 72 games, 21 goals last year with Detroit. Sources are telling us that he has a two-year, $3 million a year. year offer on the table from Detroit and it is coming down to Detroit or back to the Rangers and it's all about Patty's preference. Who he sees the upward trajectory with and what's crazy dude is like they are a very interesting situation of like which team do you believe in. I look at the roster
Starting point is 00:44:26 of Detroit. I think it's a better roster but goalie is just so important. The Gibson trade which, oh, I think we skipped over the Gibson trade, but that was a big one. Oh yeah, we did miss that. We did. We did. We did. John Gibson getting traded to Detroit for Peter Marzic, a 2027 second and a 2026 fourth is great. Detroit is now better than... Dude, I can't believe... Thank you for going back to this. I can't believe the reaction here. I was like, I saw that trade and I was like, wow, they finally moved him and wow. Detroit has an elite goalie. This is a game changer. And then everybody in Detroit was fucking furious. And I was like, what? dude. It's so bizarre to me. I've been begging them to do this for years.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah, I really can't process it. That one is great. But yeah, what the fuck were you talking about? Kane, dude. I can't believe this is even a conversation either. The Rangers are awful. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? I think Patrick Kane just legitimately loves New York. He wanted to go there in the first place.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I think he has fun playing there. I think he likes the city. So I could see him going there. to just be like, well, whatever, I want to just play a couple more years in New York. And that will be the reason. If he signed to the Rangers, it's not because he's like, we have a chance to do something. He just wants to live in New York, which is fine. But if he wants to try to maybe make a playoff round, he should stay in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah. Two forwards left that we are, UFA is left that we want to quickly touch on. Andrei Kuzmenko, 37 points of 56 games. He had 17 in his 22 games with L.A. It was insane. Great with Kempi and Kopey, 29 years old. It feels like a great fit with the Kings, and frankly, I don't think the King's can afford to let this guy leave. I agree.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Just with the way that they've moved out prospects, this absolutely bizarre trade of Jordan Spence to Ottawa for nothing. Outrageous. If the Kings lose him when they need scoring and he came in with such a spark plug, that's a fucking massive flop. So, L.A. has to do everything they can to keep him around. And then the big one, Brad Marchand. Where does he end up? Resumey speaks for itself. 20 points in 23 playoff games for the Panthers was crucial in them winning back-to-back Cups.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He's looking for a four-year deal in the range of 7 to 8 mil, 37 years old. I think it makes sense for Florida. They can afford him, especially if Eckblatt doesn't come back. Boston and Toronto are heavily in the mix. Where do you want to see, Brad? Florida, isn't that crazy? When I left, when I left, he left, I wanted him back so bad. And now I'm like, dude, go have fun, man.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And, you know, they will be competitive, again, obviously. it's extremely hard to go to four straight cups. Like I don't, not saying they're going to win again. I made the joke that he was like Brady in that one of my favorite Patriots, my favorite Patriot ever left to go to a Florida team and then won the title that first year at home because that's what was in Tampa. And then Brad leaves,
Starting point is 00:47:25 goes to a Florida team and wins the cup at home. And I fear for Brad that it will probably be the Brady saga, which was like Brady won the bowl and then just kind of like didn't quite get back to it and then retired. And that could happen. Like if Brad says in Florida, there's a good chance that happens. Like they just don't win the cup again, but he's like competitive for a couple years and then he retires. But that's still cool for me because I just, I think he loves it and I love seeing him in the mix. Me too. Me too. It's bizarre, but it's what I want. Okay, few RFAs then we're going to get into defense to wrap up. Three that I'm just going to quick hit and you can mention a CP. I just don't
Starting point is 00:48:00 think there's any world they're moving. Mason McTavish in Anaheim, 52 points in 76 games. He's 22 years old. The ducks are deep down the middle, but at the same time, like, Mason is a center, and they just move Zegris, and I believe because they're like, Mason is the guy. Yeah, he was great, dude. I think he's getting a new contract with Anaheim. I don't think they're letting him go. Gabe Valardi, 61 points in 71 games, 27 goals with the Jets. Still couldn't quite get 82 games, which has been his big issue. I don't. He was 25 years old. he had a breakout year with the Jets. I think that they, especially if Eelers moves on,
Starting point is 00:48:34 he's another one that they're like, no chance you can let him go. It was everything they needed in that trade for the most part. Got hurt at the end there, but was everything they needed, he's staying. And then Will Cooley, 45 points in 82 games and 20 goals for the Rangers. He had a breakout year.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Was really one of the only players showing life towards the end of the season. He is won every trade that we're hearing with New York, every this, every that, they're like, Cooley is, like, he is cannot touch material. Agree. I think he's literally untouchable for them right now. So I think he stays.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Now here's the interesting one. Restricted free agent. We've heard a lot about trades. We talked about it with Cam. Marco Rossi, Minnesota Wilde. 60 points, 82 games, 24 goals. He has 101 points and 185 NHL games. But he seems like he's on the way out.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And he is a young center, in my opinion, a 60 points. He is like a 2C in this league. I think it is so strange. Everyone says the size. No problem. But part of me is like, fucking bump him to the wing. If you need to, who gives a shit? Like, why are you letting this kid walk for free? It won't be for free. He's RFA, so you'd make a trade. But that one's interesting for me. It's nuts, Dan. He falls into the, I had a better example in mind, but he falls into the Dobson category where I'm like, why do you not like him? Why do you, why do your fans not like him? I think he'd be a tremendous ad for several competitive.
Starting point is 00:49:59 playoff teams. And I'll be curious to see what happens with him because if they keep him, I wonder if he's pissed. You know, like I hate when that relationship fractures a little bit. And it almost feels that way there too. Like I'm not, I'm not in the Minnesota area.
Starting point is 00:50:17 So I'm not listening to talk radio and hearing all the shit. But it just feels like everybody's like he's gone. And that's a shitty feeling if you're a player. So, you know, I don't even know how they move forward with him. But that's a big grab for someone in the playoffs. That's a big grab. I agree. I'm super interested in his career.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I think he's a really solid player. So we'll see. All right. Let's jump into D to wrap up here, CP. UFAD, starting off Dimitri Orlov, 33 years old. Last season, he had a cap at of 7.75. He has said that he's 100% not going to do the KHL. Obviously, he needs a team to sign him.
Starting point is 00:50:56 They will, though. Yeah. He's got plenty of game left. uh he had a less than stellar year with the canes and uh i think he's going to be like a day two day three guy i think we're going to see guys like at combe or eccombe uh ecblad gaverkov provovovo and then someone will snag orlov but he's a really you know he's a he's a very typical two-way defenseman he's going to get to some offense he's pretty good on d i think we saw him struggle a bit uh definitely against the panther
Starting point is 00:51:29 there's, and, you know, they're strong offense. But I just think he's a good second pairing guy for a team. And, yeah, I think we'll see a pay cut for sure. I don't think he's making 775 or more. But I could see him getting a two-year deal with a team and adding some veteran depth for sure. Me too. I loved him in Boston.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I think he's a good player. And he, it's unfair, in my opinion, for people to be like, and he had some bad games, don't get me wrong. But for people to be like, you were exposed by Florida. and I'm like, no shit, dude. The heaviest force I've ever seen one of the faster teams in the league, it's just a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And it was a playoff series at the end of the year when you're gassed and hurt and all that shit. So I'm not holding that against him at all. He's a great ad, too. He is. Okay, Aaron Eckblad, big one,
Starting point is 00:52:15 33 points, 56 games after serving a 20-game sussie for PEDs. Sick. Yep. He's the second longest serving Panther on that team. He's only 29 years old. It's felt like there's been multiple moments, his speech at some of the parade stuff, you know, he's listed his house.
Starting point is 00:52:34 There was this woman, I forget, she's like a wait, it's like a coffee shop person that he sees all the time. He tipped her like, hey, thanks for everything. Yeah. And she tweeted that and people are like, hey, do with all this what you will. It feels like there's a chance he thinks he's on the way out. The question is, do you think he's going to get a fat payday from someone? I feel like Ekblad, people think he's like 35. He's literally 29 years. Yeah, I think he is, Dan, and I think if he does, Florida was smart to let him go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And I'm not saying he doesn't deserve the payday because, like you said, his, look at his career, dude. He's done so much. And every Panthers fan should be thrilled with that pick. But he's got some, he plays a hard game. He plays some tough miles on him. I don't think I'd be giving him eight more years at a high number if I'm Florida. If I'm a team that is happy to have that contract be not great by the end of it. But I just, it's okay because I need him now and I want to make a push to become a
Starting point is 00:53:42 playoff team and to mentor some guys. Then do it. Then overpay. If you have some space, go ahead. And I'll be happy for him. I'll be really happy for him. But I just think Florida doesn't need it. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It's interesting. It's a tough one. Like, there's part of me that's like, I could see a Detroit giving him a seven by 8.5. Yeah. And, like, answering a lot of questions. But he does have a lot of miles on the tires. And I just think he and Marchand should sit down with Florida and go, let's just split it. Take what's left and split it down the middle.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Like, I think they should both go back. All right. Next up, just mentioned him. Ivan Provrov, 33 points in 82 games. I think he's a super interesting player. He had a 6.75 cap hit last year. He's only 28. But he's one of these guys, even though he's only 28, I'm like, does he deserve a raise?
Starting point is 00:54:29 I don't think so. Like, I think like 6.5 is his number. I know. 30, 40 point guy. He is two-way. I like that. He's obviously got, he's had controversy shit in the past, which, you know, say what you will about it.
Starting point is 00:54:44 But, like, Provee's an NHL player. I just don't know that he is like a six, seven-year deal guy. to me he feels like a classic number four D man I think he's your second pairing guy but teams need that I know and he wants a race so he will ask for one and he's gonna I think he's a day one guy
Starting point is 00:55:03 like you look at the D available frankly like I think it's like Eckblad and I think it's at Gavrikov Eckblad and Provee yeah for sure it's crazy Gavikov just mentioned him he had 30 points last year
Starting point is 00:55:19 plus 26 with L.A. He was fantastic. This podcast hears that sources are telling us that is a done deal with the New York Rangers. He's going to be signing with them. I believe that that's what's going to be happening. Makes a lot of sense for New York. Feels like a kind of a typical New York signing. Yeah, true. But he was everything you wanted. I know L.A. is really upset, but I do think he's going to get a race, like a good payday. And I think there's a world where L.A. is okay to let New York pay that. Oh, same. And that's a good spot for him, honestly.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I think that team, I just said, they don't have a super bright future. Playoff why, in the immediate future, I don't think, unless a lot changes. But he's going to get time there. You know, it's a cool fucking place to play. And he can really show what he's worth there. So that'll be awesome. Yeah. And then, guys, like we said, we're doing a live show tomorrow during Free Agency Day.
Starting point is 00:56:15 So we'll touch on these. But just quick, Ryan Lindgren, Cody C.C., Brian Dumlin, David Savard, all UFAs. Those are all kind of like third pairing guys that are going to fill out, I think, day two, day three guys that will fill out people's rosters who are all super reliable and great locker room guys. So we'll have eyes on those. To finish us off, CP, four RFA's defensemen. I think two are, I know, two are locks to stay with their teams. Two are very interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Two locks, Evan Bouchard. Oh, yeah. Back to back 65 plus point years on the blue line. crucial on the P.P. for this team. He's a fan favorite. He is also a locker room favorite of Connor McDavid and Leon Drysiddle. He ain't going nowhere. We are hearing that his camp wants eight years at 10 million per season, and we're also hearing that that could come today. I am interested in this because by all accounts, it sounds like that, that deal is going to break today. So by the time this episode is out, maybe it will have already happened. Maybe it will be
Starting point is 00:57:14 about to happen, but he ain't going nowhere. He is staying there. We're hearing that Edmonton is working on trades today as well to move out Victor Arvinson in a trade as well as Adam Henrique to free up some space. But it looks like the 8 by 10 is going to be what Evan Bouchard gets. Does he deserve more than all of these guys? Like, does he deserve close to this kale money? I don't know. To me, I think you're, If you signed Evan Bouchard at that number and then you got Conner's extension coming down the pipeline, we're just, even with the cap going up, we are looking at like, oh, fuck me. Like, this is, this is tough stuff here.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Agree. But at the same time, like I said, if Connor and Leon don't take less, I ain't taking less either. Yep. Like, Evan, go get your fucking bag. Hell yes, dude. And he deserves it. He deserves to get his bag. I think he, I don't think he should get kale money.
Starting point is 00:58:20 You know, I think he's so, I mean, 65 points and 65 points. He's so valid. He's got that fucking heavy shot. I heard Bushbaum 1,000 times during the playoffs this year. But there's criticism on his defensive game at times too. So that's a lot of money. But you're right. Like if you have the two high, if you have like, is Leon,
Starting point is 00:58:44 the second or the first highest right now or second behind Matthews? Leon's higher. Okay, so if you have the... I think Leon's 1325 is Austin. Check right now. But if you have, once Conner Science Extension, if you have the highest paid player in the league and either the second or third highest paid player in the league, and then you also have the high, like the second highest
Starting point is 00:59:08 paid defenseman in the... Leon's 14. And I think it's Austin. That's 1325. Okay. So you have the top. top two highest paid players in the league and like the second highest paid defenseman in the league. And I'm like, dude, that's tricky.
Starting point is 00:59:20 You're just, you're, you're making it tricky on yourself when the criticism has been your top heavy. And then this is kind of why. That's what I'd be worried about. Completely agree. It's, it's a weird balance where, like, someone is going to pay him that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:40 In this, in this today, in today's NHL, the way they, the way they value offensive of D, like, that's what he's worth. And I stand by, like, go get your fucking money, dude. Like, if you had a Crosby and everyone was taken the last night, I'd be like, fucking pull the sled, dude, pull it in the same direction as everyone else. But they aren't doing that. So, like, go get your fucking money. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:59 The other one that is a lock, Luke Hughes, 44.71 games for the devils. I think he is going to, all right, signs would point to him getting an eight-year deal. Yeah. 100%. But what's interesting is Jack has set the standard on that team at 8-mill A-A-V. So, like, you can't pay him more than Jack, right? Can you imagine? That makes me wonder. I actually bet he's going to sign a four-year deal, like a four-by-seven or something, and, you know, let
Starting point is 01:00:24 Jack catch up and sign his new deal, and then you can sign one, too. I actually think we're going to see a bridge here because of that, because I'd be surprised if he's like, yeah, give me, like, sign exactly the same as Jack, because even that would be like, Jack would be like, really, dude? Like, yeah. But maybe not, because he's like, I don't give fuck to my brother. Get your fucking money. And also, like, yeah. like times have changed. But that one is super interesting to me. He's obviously staying there.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I'm curious what it's going to be. Me too. And I honestly think a bridge might work out for him. Because then he can get, like once Jack goes up, he can get a fat one too. So yeah, that would be good.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I'm completely agree. Sorry, I'm just hawking Twitter because shit's popping off right now. Good. And then the other ones that are interesting, and I want you to run with these. The two that are not locks,
Starting point is 01:01:06 Keandre Miller, 27 points in 74 games. He's definitely declined from the hype around him a couple years ago. I was so high on him. I still kind of am. I heard a lot of trade candidate situations with him. And then Bowen Byron, 38 points in 82 games with Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Sounds like he's going to be on the move. I think he wants a move. Buffalo sees it. He was clutch for Colorado in their cup winning year. I think a big deal is coming his way. So what do you see with those two? Kjondre Miller, I think, man, if the Rangers could get someone who was still believed in the way you do, and I would even say I do, if they still believed in that potential and the Rangers could get a legitimate return for him,
Starting point is 01:01:47 I would be interested in them making that move. But if the market isn't there for the Rangers, I'm crossing my fingers. I don't even mean to make it sound like that much of a hell Mary. I'm crossing my fingers on him and just going, he'll pan out or he'll be closer to that guy we saw two years ago, and I'm willing to let it ride because I doubt he's going to need a ton of money. And you're kind of like, you're in a weird spot with the Rangers right now where you need to find some people who you can actually build around that you believe in. Because it's like, Christ, dude. Like Fox didn't have the best year, especially at Four Nations and like Laffey, the Laffey experiment.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Jesus Christ. So I would be okay being like, let's try to make Keanu. Let's try to give one more look at Keondre to see. Don't sign them to fucking eight years. but if you can get him on a reasonable deal, then I'd be interested in keeping him around. Bowen Byram, I think that's a good, that's a great guy to have in the,
Starting point is 01:02:52 who are we talking about earlier? I can't remember, but just in that mid-tier D-range where I'm like, these are the guys that make a difference in the playoff runs and the depth of a long season. Yeah. It's another one that Buffalo, I'm like, buddy, you want, these are the players you want to.
Starting point is 01:03:10 They always just leave. Everybody leaves all the time. A way to make him stay. Yeah, it's like, Jesus Christ. But that one, I'd have big eyes on him if I was a team in contention looking for some depth on the blue line. Because if you could get him, that would be. Can you look up right now, just Google a picture of him? I think Bowen is a left shot.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Is that right? Yeah, fuck. I was going to say, if he's a right shot, Boston should be all over him because they got a right shot behind Maccaboy. Yeah, that would be great. But every defenseman in the league is a left shot, unfortunately, so you must have forgotten that. But dude, he's going to be awesome. Like, how much was he getting from Buffalo? He signed a two-year 3.85 Aav.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Dude, you know what he feels like ripe for to me is the goose contract, like 8.5.8. God, he's like 24. That's awesome. But yeah, he's a... I think he's a great player. You're right. I think he's like a perfect, like, if he's in your second pair, you're like, damn. You're laughing, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:12 So, so sick. You're absolutely laughing. So we'll keep an eye on that trade. But, yeah, listen, so much fun stuff coming up here. We're already seeing some of it break right now. We're seeing trades. We're going to get stuff popping off. We're getting this episode out for you today, Monday.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Hopefully you're listening to it this afternoon if you want some content. But we're going to be going live tomorrow morning. CP, you're going to get up early for it? Well, you know, we were going to go nine, right? Well, nine Pacific. That's pretty late, dog. Yeah, well, what the fuck, dude? What do you want for me?
Starting point is 01:04:48 I want you up at 9 a.m. Sweden. No, we'll go live tomorrow. We're going to get you guys just some straight-up reactions as everything breaks during deadline day. It's going to be fucking electric. We'll see how much of this comes to fruition. And also, as we do that, we're going to run through all the teams, all of their needs, things that those guys are going to be shopping for.
Starting point is 01:05:08 what we expect from them on free agency, both day one to day two and beyond. So every team you're going to get serviced by us tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Keep doing that. Nah, I got to stop. I've got to save it for tomorrow. All right, let's take a quick break
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Starting point is 01:06:56 All right, now let's get into a beer league hotline wags. What do we got? I ran a team in a major city where most people don't own cars, including our goalie, who we have had for multiple years. He brought us a ship and helped make a perennial finalist. However, he typically has to be given a ride to the rink every week. He couldn't play this past season, so we brought in a guy that's probably better than the original goalie and nobody has to pick him up. The new season is starting.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Am I a scumbag for riding with the guy who can drive himself over our original tenty? No. It's got to be New York, right? They've got to be in New York. I'm in a major city where no one has a car. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It has to be New York. I mean, like, I don't see the issue here at all.
Starting point is 01:07:41 He's better and he has a car. But, dude, if he was your goalie for 10 years and is good. And it's not like he's bet, you know what I mean? Like, you've won a title. You're always in deep in the playoffs. And he had to miss last season. They don't say why, but he had to miss last season for whatever. I had a baby.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Sorry, I can't play this session. I'm traveling, whatever. And then he comes back. And he's like, hey, I'm back. And you go, fuck you. got a new goalie. Yeah, sorry. The new goalie's better.
Starting point is 01:08:11 This is a situation where literally everything is better. You are benefiting in every way. The goalie's better, and he can get himself to the rink. But such bad karma, dude. I don't think it's bad karma. It's like shitty. I feel bad. I'm not a monster.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I feel bad about this. But this guy doesn't have much of a leg to stand on, pal. He's like, I get it that he was your OG tendy, but he's also an OG nuisance. And then this guy comes in, he's got his own car, he's got a full tank of gas, both on the ice and in his automobile, and he's getting himself to the rink.
Starting point is 01:08:46 I don't know what you say. You know what you do? You go like this. Hey, sounds good, man. If you can get to the rink, you can play. And every day he's going to go like this. Oh, I can't. And you go, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Dude, I was going to say that. Let us know when you can get there. Get a car. Buy a car. Buy a car right now. Dude, you buy a car and you can get, I think that's, even though the other guy's better, the new guy's better.
Starting point is 01:09:06 If OG guy buys a car, then he's back in. He's back on the team. I don't care. And I would also like to know if they won the ship this past year with the better guy. You know, like, my loyalties go as far as your ability to get to the ice dude. Yeah. That is truly how I feel. Like, if this guy, I would straight up every, I would tell the new goalie,
Starting point is 01:09:28 listen, we're going to tell this old guy that you guys are splitting games so long as he can get to the rank. And literally every week, I'd be. like this. Can you get to the rink? And he's going to go like this. Can I get a ride? And we're going to, we're going to go, no, you can't. If you can get yourself there. Yeah. If you Uber, you can come. And whenever this guy's like, I'm making it, then he can play. But yeah. He can't be bumming rides anymore. Like, but buddy, you've, you've got to, you've got to bring something to the table here. This new guy, he brought something to the table. And it's got four wheels. So what if he goes? What if, what if old guy goes? I can't, I can't afford a car and I still need rides. But
Starting point is 01:10:05 but I'll bring beer every week or something like that. Someone in want a smaller gesture. Now we're talking. Start bringing stuff to the table. You know, if he starts providing things, like maybe this is a league where goalies don't pay. If all of a sudden he's like this, I'll pay the full freight. Now we're talking.
Starting point is 01:10:23 You're bringing something to the table. You need intangibles. But the old deal is dead. He can't come back on the old deal. That's done. The old deal has been terminated. You need to start stepping up to the plate. or
Starting point is 01:10:35 your toast, pal Yep, you're toast Okay, we can agree We can agree on that I love it It's harsh but this is Goalie in beer league is a harsh game
Starting point is 01:10:45 Yeah, sure it is buddy All right now on to Bauer hockey blind ranking Bauer gives us so much good stuff including the Twitch Which is my favorite stick of all time And now they're giving us another blind ranking Which I can't appreciate more
Starting point is 01:10:56 God, D.P. Coakin already Okay It's fucking 7 p.m. here, dude give me a break. Last week we bought When is the wedding by the way. It's
Starting point is 01:11:05 the fourth. Okay. It's my, it's my future father-in-law's birthday, dude. You think I'm not going to have a sandwich beer?
Starting point is 01:11:13 Get fucked. That's sick. It was yesterday. It was the 29th. Oh, well, still sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Okay. Last week we brought, we were blind-ranking sandwiches. This week, we are blind-ranking summer foods. God, love us.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Wags, hit us. Chicken south. Oh, fuck, dude. Here's the problem for you, Dan. This is nearly my Cubano. I love chicken salad. Yeah? Yeah, you're a chicken salad.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I love chicken salad. I have my own recipe. I got, I like it in a sandwich. I like it in a sub. I like it plain. Put a little hot peppers on there. On the sandwich, put a little hot. Put a little Franks on there in a bowl.
Starting point is 01:11:56 You ever seen that girl. I want to give her a shout out. She works at Barstool. I think her name's like, it begins with an name. them but she's a chicken salad fan and every time i see her videos it makes me laugh because i'm like i love chicken salad too yeah here's the only problem though i'm not sure it's um i don't associate with summer as much like i'll eat it all year i'll eat it all year baby yeah but dude oh my god
Starting point is 01:12:23 chicken salad salad scream summer to me chicken salad sandwich that is a that is a that is a you eat that on the beach i had i probably had a chicken salad sandwich from longs dance general store on the beach probably like, try to be realistic here, like 500 times. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chicken salad is so summer to me. You make some delicious chicken salad. You eat it with crackers right out of the bowl. Okay, so maybe one.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Maybe one. No. Maybe one. I don't know if I can go one. I will definitely go high here, though. Like chicken salad is summer, man. It is summer. Yeah, let's go one.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Put a little paprika in. that recipe. That's what I'm saying, dude. That's what I'm saying. Maybe slice up some grapes, put it in there. Jesus, dude, I'm going to make some of that right now. I'm, I'm a big, this is a huge thing we need to determine here. I'm a big shredded chicken salad. Yeah. Like, I don't cube chicken. I'll still eat it. Let me say. I want, I want, like, shredded chicken. Me too. Prefer it. Same with my steak and cheese, by the way. Shred that. Shred that shit. Otherwise, it's not a steak and cheese. It's a steak tips up. But I'll eat the cube anyway. Give me one, dude.
Starting point is 01:13:33 You want to go one? Chicken salad one? You didn't give me Cubano one. Fuck. You're right. Two. Two. Two.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Watermelon. Fuck. That's one, dude. That's one. That's got to be one. That's got to be one. That's got to be one. Watermelon is the OG.
Starting point is 01:13:59 People been eating watermelon in summer since the rib was turned into a woman. Yep. And I'll tell you what, brother. Nothing is better than watermelon. You want to spruce it up a little bit, put a little tahin on there. You want to put some feta and mint in there. Do your thing. Get fucking nuts, dude.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Go crazy with your watermelon. Just make sure you're eating it in the summer. You want to grow a watermelon in your own belly? You eat a black seed. Boom. There you go. Chuck your fintzer shit. Watermelon for free.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Free watermelon rest of your life. Eat a few black seeds. Free watermelon rest of your life. That's unreal. Give me one. Watermelon one. We got a great list going on here. Ice cream cone.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Okay. Okay. Specific with the cone, too. I know. Is there any dessert that is that that screams summer other than ice cream? Because I don't know. By the way, I don't think I've ever really understood that. Like, it's a hot day and you want like a belly full of dairy. But I do.
Starting point is 01:15:00 But you do. And it's also weird when it's freezing out to get ice cream. I do it too. But I get people being like, did you just get ice cream in the winter? And I'm like, uh-huh. And dude, it just melts on you in the summer. You know, it's like immediate, immediate melt job. But it's still so awesome.
Starting point is 01:15:16 The lines, dude. The lines in the ice cream store. Maybe low here. Maybe four or five. You don't think ice cream is a good summer food? No, I do. I think it's great. But I'm like, now that you're talking about it, melting all over my hand, I'm also thinking
Starting point is 01:15:31 of some other stuff. I could go forward here. But, yeah, I guess. some kind of torn because it's, it does, I love, it's a nostalgic, like having ice cream in the summer. I'm like, yeah, it's perfect. So I kind of want to go high for that. But I agree, it's, it's not functional at all.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Tell me, when you think about that, like, ice cream cone emoji. Yeah. You don't think of summer. You're lying. Yeah. Well, I don't know. But I do, but I think you're right cone here because I became a dish guy. I became like a cone in the dish guy.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Yeah. Because it's like it's fucking everywhere. I'll go four. I'll go four here. Four? Okay, I like four. All right, Wags four. Capraise Island.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I feel like we've been killing Capraisei. Two weeks in a row. Are we going to dead Caprize again and go five? I think I will. Oh. It is a great summer on the deck. I love Capraise salad. Yeah, dude, you make it fresh.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Maybe if you're like me, you're growing your tomatoes yourself in the summer. You pull it right off the vine, slice it nice and thin, put a little piece of mozzarella on there, drizzle of balsom. Glaze, some basil on top. Fuck me, I'm getting horny. Five. Five. Dead.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Is that your go-to salad every day in the office, the one that you make or no? No, that's my cucumber salad, dude. My cucumber salad is gas. That's pretty summary, too. That is. I hate that we're going to kill Capraise two blind rankings in a row, but I just feel like we've got to leave that three spot, that three-hitter. There must be something coming.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yep. So we're going to go five. Cabob scures. Great. Great. This is an immaculate. This is an immaculate ranking. Great.
Starting point is 01:17:18 And that would have been, that would have been a tough one to sort of dude. If cobbbs were five, that would have been tough. Now, I know what you're thinking. Cabobs are definitely an all-year-round food, but tell me that you don't love a kebab right on the grill during summer. Yep. Hot summer night. chicken kebabs, steak kebabs, put some white onion and some bell peppers on there. People are going to be mad about kebabs over ice cream.
Starting point is 01:17:44 I already know it. But just think about the drip. Think about the drip. Think about the drip. Dude, I was up in my rooftop grill making some burgers and stuff this weekend, and I thought I was the hot shit making all this stuff for my girlfriend, and this guy comes up with this friend, and they have all these like kebabs skewers and all this other food. I'm like, wow, really, man.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's fuck, dude. He should have fucking checks first before he brought that up in your face. You should text to us in the apartment chat and be like, heads up. Heads up. I'm bringing in some big guns. That's so funny. That's the dangerous game about a communal grill, dude.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Someone could come in and just fucking big time you so hard. Beautiful stuff here on Deadline Eve. Hope you'll listen to this episode as we get into all this good stuff. And we will see you tomorrow on the live as we break down everything going on on Deadline Day. I'm going to be fucking tweet. I got to find a stand because I got to be hands-free tweeting while we're doing this and breaking stuff, reacting to stuff. It's going to be fantastic. Beautiful stuff again.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Love you guys. Enjoy deadline day tomorrow. Enjoy this as we get prepped for it. And until we see you tomorrow morning. Skate hard.

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