Empty Netters Podcast - The Leafs Are Giving Their Fans Hope and It’s Not Fair

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

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Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite, so he gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that all year? Not I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice.

Finish tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guineasas is ran into you guys. That's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host, Dan Powers on the sticks, a man who I just saw trying on skates. Nothing could ever pump me up more. Sean Bafini.

How are we? Great. You gonna get skating? Uh, are you gonna teach me? Nothing would make me app here. Let's do it. Fucking, come on. Dude, if you recall,

that is Alex Winter's greatest passion on earth is teaching Violet how to skate. That's the bonus epilogue of Pucked. I would say that teaching people, teaching new people to skate must be what it feels like in the wizarding world to tell someone that they are a witch or wizard. I bet it is that awesome of feeling. And the person you just heard over to my left, a man who is sick yet again. Chris Powers. Oh, as always, but I actually, no, I'm not sick.

You don't think you're sick? No, I'm not. I'm actually not sick. I just, I feel tired. Well, I can't talk shit because I feel tired too. I thought I was sick last week because everyone was sick. I need someone in the comments to tell me why I feel more tired sometimes when I get great sleep. I got great sleep last night.

I didn't drink yesterday or anything. I had a very relaxing day and I feel more tired. Why does that happen? It's because you didn't have a relaxing day two days ago. It's the 48-hour rule. But, yeah, maybe that's right. The most important sleep is two sleeps ago. That's that I've heard that.

That might be true. What is true is we've got a great episode today. Got a lot of hot ice to get into. College hockey is back. So Nettors College puck drop is back. We've got to rip all this stuff up. It's going to be fantastic. And we're going to start with a team who has been fantastic in hot ice.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are good again. Scorching. Am I touching something? Am I touching something? The Leifes are seven, one, and two in their last ten games. They've won three straight. They are surging up the standings. They are one point out of a wild card spot.

What in the world is going on in Toronto? The Lees, the cornballer is a good nickname for the Leaves. I think they are the cornballers. Explain yourself. They are hot. They are hot. Okay, well, is that, it's just a good nickname? name because they're hot but they are they don't make sense i'm like what is this why is this thing why is

it so hot what is it do well what does it make does it ever succeed does it ever make a finished product so we've got a lot of a lot of leif's fans were up in the dms last night during hockey talk supporting their boys i think a lot of people would credit brandon carlo okay brandon carlo's been injured. He is back in the lineup and he is really tightening up that defense. And then also don't forget that Chris Tenev is hurt. He's been out for a long time. That's kind of a thing with Chris Tanna. He is such an intense player. I feel like he's always on IR because he's just like putting his body on the line. He's got. Oh my God. The guy just puts his body on the line. He is that guy who is, what's that YouTube video, that popular YouTube video, that guy he's playing volleyball. And

And they keep spiking it into his face. Oh, yeah. They have another video where he's playing goalie. And it's like, fuck, dude. We got to figure out that guy's name because that's Chris Tanev, because he just puts his body on the line all the time. But with Brandon Carlo back in, the boys are looking much, much better. Willie Nealander's been fantastic all year.

And then I'm seeing a lot of lunch pail talk. A lot of lunch pail talk from Toronto Maple Leafs fans. They're citing guys like Max Domi. They're citing guys like Scott Lawton and Brandon Carlo being like, we've got, we finally have a lot of blue collar lunch pail guys who are making shit happen. But the thing is, the Leafs are good right now. Like we just mentioned, seven wins, one loss, two O tier shootout losses in their last 10. They are very, very close to a playoff spot for the first time in months.

My question is, and I said this yesterday, at what cost? Because do we believe that this Maple Leafs team is going to do anything but what they always do? Very fair point, but I think, ah, man, because there are some teams that I think you get into playoffs knowing you're dead, but it's still worth it. Yeah. Because I go, just get in, dude, that's fun. You haven't been in in a long time. Like San Jose Sharks, big playoffs. That would be cool.

Would you probably lose in the first round? Yes, probably. But get in. That'd be awesome. Seattle Cracket, get in. That'd be awesome. It would be awesome. The Leifes don't have that luxury of just get in.

It's fun. This is fun. Hey, do you want to lose it in the first round again? Are we having fun yet? This is what I couldn't believe from some of the chats I was having with Leafs fans last night. The amount of them that were like, we're a playoff team, dude. We're a playoff team. And I'm like, yeah, no shit.

This isn't This isn't the New York Islanders here And that's not a shot at the islanders That's saying a team who's kind of been Bubble status in the past And you'd be fired up to get in the playoffs Leaves fans No no no

You are not satisfied with just playoffs We can't This is crazy Yep But so you're right about that But I think also Because you're the Leafs You can't miss

like missing is a fucking disaster unless you're going about to say at least that will make them blow it up and trade everyone that's exactly what I'm saying hey Chris that's exactly what I was about to say because at least that would enact change they didn't they enacted

they enacted change last year and they made it past where they normally make what change did they make they traded Mitch Marner wrong no they it was a trade wrong it was a trade Look up the record books. Look up history.

If you try to, well, technically, Brian, just shut up. Just shut up. That is ridiculous. We are not going to sit here and say that the Leafs made the decision to trade Mitch Martyr. They did absolutely the opposite of that. Yes. This is the conundrum this team is in in that you, if you were the Toronto Maple Leafs and you have this roster and you have Austin Matthews and your

paying Austin Matthews what you're paying him. You're paying William Nealander what you're paying him. You have the expectations of we need to go to the Stanley Cup every single year. Yep. Now, do you ever come close to that? No. No, no, no, no, at least that is the vibe. That is the mindset. I cannot have the good people of Toronto right now being like, just get in, baby. Come on. Although, but damn, maybe that's making them more accepting people. Maybe they're just no longer are players like Mitch Martin are getting death threats sent to the house. Maybe they're just now like, we support our boys no matter what. Maybe that is the change.

And maybe that attitude adjustment will rocket fuel them into playoffs. Okay, so here's... Because it's okay. It's okay. Here's what I wanted to say, after all the shit that you can talk about they need real change, they need this, they need that. Let's talk about the East. Yep.

Because the Atlantic has been very concerned. confusing this year. The Met has even been slightly confusing because of how hurt the Carolina hurricanes have been. But Slavin is back in the lineup. He got a nice goal. Four straight wins for the Canes. I'm going to read you the top three teams in each division of the East. And let's say Toronto only makes a wild card spot. Yep. Regardless of how poop they've been this year. Do you think the Toronto Maple Leafs in a first round matchup could beat? And I know

currently this wouldn't happen. I'm just reading the top six teams. The Philadelphia Flyers. Yes. The New York Islanders. Yes. The Carolina Hurricanes. No. The Montreal Canadiens. Yes. The Tampa Bay Lightning. No. The Detroit Redwigs. Yes. Boom. You're in the second round. It's kind of interesting.

Boom. You're in the second round. So maybe maybe the Leafs are playing money ball. Yep. Maybe they realize we don't need to empty at all in the regular season like we normally do.

Maybe the East is so weak that it doesn't matter where they finish and there's a much clearer path. I think the maple leafs are they're only one point and we pulled wildcard standing up. Only one point back, right? One point back. Yeah.

I mean, dude, if you were asking me right now And this is changing every day because also the devils and Panthers are down here too. But if you're saying, who makes it? The Leafs or the Sabres? I go the Leafs. Oh, you're an idiot. Nope.

Because things have changed in Buffalo. Yeah, okay. Things have changed in Buffalo, Chris. The Buffalo Sabres are nine and one in their last 10 with three straight wins. They're a different team. Yarmel came in and he changed. Actually, we said that we need to change our,

The are, this is the speak. Hey, positive linguistic programming. Positive linguistic programming. We changed the linguistic programming in Buffalo. Yarmo came in and now the Buffalo Sabres. I'm not going to say the W word, but the Buffalo Sabres are a different team.

There are different vibes. And they are, they are currently a playoff team. First wild school. Go bills. Come on. Go bills. Go Bills.

Go Sabers. The city of Buffalo. What if Josh Allen wins a bowl? this year. Oh, my God. Does it help the Sabres? Yes. Or does it hurt the Sabres because they put too much into Allen?

If Josh Allen wins a bowl this year and then the birth of their child, the prince or princess who has promised enters this world, the Buffalo Sabres will use that as... Because he'll go to Sabres playoff games. And... Correct. Josh won't. Yeah, yeah. He'll be there.

If Josh and Haley are out of Sabres game, they will never lose again. That could actually... This team... That could actually ripple effects. We'll never lose again. And I'll tell you what. I need Tage to be walking into a game soon

with a Josh Allen jersey on. Yeah, I need that too. No dress code. Where whatever you want? Pop a Josh Allen jersey on walk into a game. Yes. Really unified the clients. Yes. Rising Tide.

I need I need Josh Allen jerseys and I need Gwen Stacy Spider girl? Yeah. Or is it woman? John?

Gwen Stacy? Is she spider woman or spider girl? Spider woman, I'm pretty sure. Gwen Stacy, because it's not spider boy. Spider man. Shut the fuck up, Sean. Get out of here with that logic. Is it super girl, though?

Yeah. But I think, but I think... But I isn't supergirl, she's like a teen... Well, I guess Gwen's a teenager too. Well, no, Gwen is like dinner 20s now. In that universe. basically I need a Gwen Spider-Woman shirt and a

oh shit we could do a Hawkeye outfit too but I don't know what a Hawkeye outfit looks like God Haley Steinfield is fucking incredible Oh wow I forgot about that show What a catalog Hawkeye is the greatest Marvel show That was the best Marvel show Christmas. Absolutely fantastic

It's a Christmas show Did that come back? Wasn't that? I think we're getting it That felt like it was more to tell There was more story to get more meat on that bone There's way more meat on that bone Listen, the Buffalo Sabres are back, but I think the Toronto Maple Leafs might be back too.

The question is, do we think that this is going to continue? Do you believe in the run? They've got a West Coast road trip starting tonight. Avs, mammoth, Vegas Jets. Good news is the Jets are terrible. Stoink. But Avs Vegas will be tough games. What record in those four games do you need to see from the least for you to believe what's happening?

You believe that things have changed and this isn't just a win streak? Four or no. Stop it. I think if the Leafs go two and two. Straight up, I think if they beat the aves. Like one. One and done. Yeah, one and three, but you beat the abs.

Yeah, if they beat the abs and they go one and three, I believe. I think if the Leafs go two and two, I still think, dude, the Leafs are good. What they have put on display for half the year is appalling. And insult to the game. Unless they're playing money puck. Yeah. No, they've been smart. They've been figuring it out.

There's a chance. Everybody's back. They're fine. I like this. I like the new Leafs. Yeah. Okay. It's very, very interesting.

Yep. Something to not love is the New Jersey Devils. Now, we've talked a lot about the Devils in their recent struggles, but we're going to give them a break today because we want them to recover. We're going to give them peace and privacy at this trying time. But we do need to talk about Dougie Hamilton. Dougie Hamilton was healthy scratched over the weekend against the Jets. And in a conversation Pierre LeBron had with his agent, with Dougie's agent,

it was leaked, announced, whatever you want to call it, that the devil's tried to trade Dougie Hamilton this summer to the San Jose sharks. And Dougie blocked it. As is his right. He said no, no, no. Since last year, we've been talking about Dougie as a very, very possible trade candidate for this team because he has a large cap hit. He's getting a little older in age.

and the devils have more defensive prospects than you have illnesses in your body. Pathogens. Pathogens galore. Defenseman galore. Kovicevich comes back into the lineup. Fitz said Kovicevich, there was their best defensive defenseman last year. We got to get him back in the lineup. Nemek was one of their best defensemen, if not the best defenseman on the team so far this year.

That's his words. And he has been great. Pesci's play states speaks for itself. His words. So, Dougie was just the odd man out. Now, if you're Dougie Hamilton and you hear the words odd man out when referring to you, you're like, what the fuck? Like, come on. Like, you think that you were a top two star player.

And he has a 10 team, no trade list. He shut down the sharks trade. Now, how ironic is it? When you look at the sharks and the devils. I know, dude. Look at the vibes with the sharkies. the fact that they are sitting in a playoff spot. And could use D, he'd be the guy.

He would be the guy. So you wonder very, very significantly, is this a trade that gets revisited? Like, if there was a trade on the table that they were going to accept the sharks and the devils, we're going to accept and Dougie shut it down, you wonder if right now, you look at Dougie Hamilton,

you look at the San Jose sharks and the sharks would absolutely love Dougie Hamilton. And I also think that's the type of situation where I'm like, Dougie, it feels like Seth Jones going to Florida. Dougie Hamilton and San Jose, I'm like, oh, great fit. Yeah. Minimal pressure. Great vibes with the team.

The boys would love him there. I think they would love Dougie. You wonder if that trade gets revisited. Do you think the sharks are calling? Are they going, dude? I ab like depending on the price I think the sharks would be over the moon because they were happy with the price before

but you wonder does the price change now because they're better or because they don't think he's good well I think they think he's good but I don't think Dougie's lighting the world on fire this season he's played 40 games he has five goals and five assists yeah like I don't think that's the Dougie that you thought you were getting this summer so they shark go price now 50 million

price now $50 Yeah. You're certainly not giving up what you were going to give up this summer. We in playoffs now. So we can't be giving anything up. I think right now is there egg on the devil's face? There has been egg on the devil's face, Dan. Don't careful. All year. No. Yes, there has. No, they were great at the beginning of the year. Actually, I guess for like 10 games. I'd get 20. There was no egg. Before the jack. And. But there. There has been egg on their face since Jack sliced his hand open. Yes, correct.

Because how are we doing this, dude? How are we... Hey, careful. We're not chitting on the devils today. Dude. I said, and Pasha has been getting killed. Yeah. Being a deranged devil's fan.

But I had his back so fully where I said, The Devils, after that Granger's year, I was like, the Devils are going to win three cups in the next decade. I know. And not in a row or anything, but just like they are going to be that good. And I can't believe the egg. I cannot believe we're egging. Yeah, they're covered in egg.

Why, why, dude? Why, why are we here? How did we get here? I, you do wonder, fits makes sense. You're the devils. You're in hell. Fitz is on the hot seat. Yep.

Because with, it does feel like, I understand that Dougie shut it down. But if you're actively shopping Dougie this summer and you get a trade with the sharks and then he shuts it down, I just don't think you can go, well, that was our one shot. Yep. I think you go, well, what's next? And I, and Dougie's agent who ironically, because I just think it's slightly awkward, he is the agent of Luke Hughes, Jack Hughes, Dawson Mercer as well. Like, if you were that agent and he said, he said, he. He was like, listen, if we can talk to the team and find a good partner and a trade where everyone's happy, we'll do it. I'm like, dude, you have to, you had to have traded him this summer then.

And you could do it now, dude. Well, now you've let his value drop. Yep. So this is a bad look for the devils. But it's still got to happen. You would ask me a while ago if there was going to be a trade, and I didn't think so. But now, now, because it was the be patient crew, dude. The be patient crew, that's the devil's fans.

The devil's and their fans. We're fine. Now I'm like, dude. Bye. See you later. What are the 10 teams? Fine. You're going to one of these. Good day. And we need to shake something up, figure it out, because we're embarrassing. I think we absolutely need to see a trade going here. And we will. We will. Strap in. You will. And I do, man, I love, but again, it's the price. But I do love the shark situation. We're going to stick on trades here. We're going to move to a team who is at the top of the Atlantic, the Detroit Red Wings. currently sit in first place of the Atlantic by one point over the red, red hot Tampa Bay Lightning. Yep.

Detroit Red Wings are seven, two, and one in their last 10 with three straight wins. And I am ready to declare that the Detroit Red Wings are officially real. Oh, yeah, dude. They're playing playoffs, they're making playoffs. Barring an insane trash patch situation, they're making. Barring another insane sponsor. that tanks the team. I feel good about Detroit.

They are making playoffs. I said, I said they were making playoffs all year. I knew it. I never doubted it for a second. Correct. They, however, are not a threat. I don't think. Which is fine.

I didn't ask them to me. All I asked to do is make playoffs. Not a threat. Hold on. Not a threat yet. And if they... And you can back. bet that Stevie Y will get quickly come up with a player whose name rhymes with E.T.

You blew it. It was your turn. It was your line. It was your line. It was my line. Shit! I can't get it. I, I, listen, you always say we're 40, plus 40 games in.

These are trends. Detroit has been. good all year. And they've had a little fight. Yeah. We put them on fraud watch twice when they started slipping and they've reeled it in. Right now they're on a great, great run. Now, what is a little nerve-wracking is it does feel like with the Detroit Red Wings, this happens. Like they go on great runs and then all of a sudden they lose five straight and you're like, ah. So Detroit, you absolutely cannot let that happen. But things that I love, Patrick Kane really started heating up. He's got eight goals 19 assists, 27 points in 31 games. He's close to a point per game.

We are obviously Dylan Larkin has been fantastic all year long. You love to see that. He's, that's my guy. I think he is one of the best leaders in the league and he's playing great. Lucas Raymond looks great. Cat, perfect hockey player looks great. Mo Sider, 32 points from the blue line and playing unbelievable lockdown D. I am here to declare that Mo Sider and Simon Edvinson are one of the best pairs in the National Hockey League right now. I think the two of them look absolutely fantastic. And is it because of Mo? I think Mo is carrying most of it, but Edvinson, who is very, very good defensively,

he's 16 points. Yeah, right. He'll take that. He's pulling his weight. He's 10th on the team in points. He is pulling his weight in a lot, a lot of ways. And you just love to see it. Now, this team, we always talk about the Eiser planet.

Always. We, it is do or die. Win or cry. Go, baby, go. It is time for Steve Eiserman to do something. A trade simply must happen. And I think you look at this team, you love so much of this team, but you can absolutely improve the middle six, absolutely.

And that's not a knock on anyone I'm saying improve. Anything can get improved, Dan. You can improve anything, Dan. Pretty much. Don't you worry about that. But I think there's a great opportunity to improve that middle six

and then defense. Even with what I just said with that top pairing, I think they're fantastic. But I think if you got solid, solid defensemen to add to that second pair, you are looking at a team that can make some noise here. Gibson's coming around. Gibson.

Gibson's been fantastic. Been coming around. and coming around. Yeah. Rounding into form. Yeah. I guess that, if he got really hot, that could be a threat. But I'm, I'm, we did it, dude.

Hey, Detroit, we did it. I think we did it. We made playoffs. We've been rocking with Motown. We made playoffs. And that's exciting. We should go to a playoff game. I'm desperate to go back to Detroit, hang with those people and go to a game.

The Lions failed us. Failed us this year. I just think, like, I truly mean this. It is now or never. Yes. For this Detroit team. As far as the Steve Eisenman, like, this is the time to make a fucking big trade at the deadline and really pump up this team. And if you were to miss playoffs now based on what's happened.

I can't even talk about that. Dude, you would see some, there would be, there would be consequences. Yeah. There would be secret service. Consequences. there would be significant consequences. And we can't have that. We cannot.

I don't wish that up for anybody. We truly can't even talk about it. So it's congratulations Detroit. We made playoffs. But talk to me about quickly, I'm looking at, I've been saying Rasmus Anderson for this team for a long time. Yep. But whenever this happens, we always look at teams in the bottom of the league. Those are teams that make trades.

And it is crazy that if I'm in the West, the Canucks, the Winnipeg Jets, the St. Louis Blues, the Calgary Flames. Those are all teams that are at the bottom, and I am, I'm currently like, those teams are out. Yeah. I don't see, I don't see any of them pulling it together. You've eliminated. And, and making playoffs. So I'm like, you would not think this, but I think about the Canucks and you, you lost Quinn already, obviously. Do you, Chris, look at, we had that Quinn and Phil Hironick combination. Is Phil Hronick available? Yeah. Why not? Because he's a great, Is big boy Tyler Myers available? Is P.O. Joseph available?

Like, there are guys that I'm like, okay, interesting. And then even more interesting, you look at the Jets, and I can't believe we're talking about this, but like, is a Neil Pionk available? Is a Demelo available? Dude, that would be a fucking disaster. But maybe. But I don't think so.

I don't think the Jets are doing what the cults did when crazy transition when Peyton got hurt and they finished last and then they got Andrew Lowe like hold no one is available on the Jets because they're just like literally we are going to finish last just add Gavin McKenna to our already good roster

and then yes we're going to win the president we're going to go President's trophy Gavin McKenna President's trophy like is that what's happened yes that is exactly what's happening okay okay okay interesting is there anyone else that you in your mind you're like I would love to see this person Not at the top of my head, but I will say this.

I'm 100% positive. Steve Iserman is going to do something. So it will be exciting because as much as we are a bunch of stooges running our mouths. Iserman hears not us, but he hears the critics about how it's gone the last couple of years and how he's like, hold, be patient, it's fine. You are correct. It's go time, baby. so something's going to happen and I'm actually really pumped to see what it is. It is go time.

I feel like we hear Nazim Kodry's name get brought up with trades all the time. That'd be sick. You add that center to the middle six of this Detroit Red Wings team. Come on. God, look at that. That'd be really sick. Exciting. We're talking about centers.

You wanted to bring up a McDavid conversation. Yeah, Connor McDavid extended his point street to 18 games, career high, which is insane. He has 19 goals and 23 assists for 42. points in 18 games across those 18 games 18 games 18 games 18 games 19 goals what I feel like that meme what it gets it gets boring sometimes for him I imagine the slapshot account I believe did a post the other day that was like best center per country at the Olympics and it was and it was ranking them you know and and and it was

So, you know, Leon's in there and blah, blah, blah. And they put McKinnon. And a lot of the comments were like, are you outside of your fucking mind? But they were like, McKinnon slotted in at one C right now for this team. Like he's going to play in the first line. And I think Nate is incredible. And a good friend of ours, Ross Colton, was like, it's insane when you get to see Nate play. Like, he's the best guy in the league.

So I don't even think it's, all the people getting that mad are also dumb, trying to be like, oh, it's a joke. It's not even close. You know, it is funny. Connor, you just talked about those crazy stats. Connor has 78 points. Nate has 78 points. Yep.

Connor has 30 goals and 40 assists. Nate has 36 goals and 42 assists. In games? Who would you rather have? They both have played. No, Connor. Yes, sorry. I was about to go, no, Connor has one more.

Yeah. Oh. That's the same thing. So, yeah, they do different. things you know like or they're they're different players yeah and and and both are fucking incredible i will say this Nate or excuse me Connor is a plus two on the season Nate would you like to guess dude i think i saw it so but i think it's like i literally think it's like 30 uh no not quite uh it's plus 48 does he lead the league so yeah when people see that they're like

Nate is the number one center and people are like, are you out of your mind? I'm like, no. In fact, if you are a stats whore, it is definitely. Of course he is. And one thing I will say, I really can't stand when we have this debate. And in fact, I have been in the MVP debate, like our clip from last week came out where I was like, Macklin is MVP. The amount of people who go, Nathan McKinn would like a word, Connor McDavid would like a word. And when you say that, I'm sorry I just gave you guys that voice, because they're great players. When you say that, I assume your only defense is points. These two guys have eight more points than Macklin.

Yep. So to that, I'm like, are we actually going to act like you care about those eight points that much? There's another trophy for that. And this is no disrespect to the San Jose Sharks players. But the Edmonton Oilers and the Colorado Avalanche are 1,000. X better than the San Jose sharks. If you take Macklin off the sharks, the sharks are in

literally last place. Like they might have 10 wins. And if you take Connor and McKinnon off those teams, those teams are way worse. The Oilers are probably not in playoffs. I would say that the abs are maybe in playoffs still. The abs are so good.

But what I can't handle is when people talk about Connor and they and rave about how bad the Oilers are. And I'm like, the Oilers are not bad. Yeah. They have gone to the Stanley Cup two straight fucking years.

Like, what are we talking about with saying this team is bad when they have the guys they have on that team? They are bad, but they have top end talent. Yes, they have very good players. So Connor is an absolute mutant, and I hope he... Also, they're not bad. What are you talking about? I think the Oilers have a... I think the Oilers have glaring holes in their roster.

Yes, but they are not. the exact reason. They are second in their division. Like, they're not bad. Right, but they are always second in their division or third in their division. Yeah, because they're good. Well, I disagree. Well, you're saying different things.

You're not allowed to say they are a bad team. Like, you would say they have holes, but that doesn't make them bad. Yeah. I guess my point is more, like, if you lost, I guess if any team would lose a Conner and David. Yeah, of course. So that's stupid. Anyway, I hope he runs this thing to 30 fucking games.

Like, what's the record? What's the NHL record? That's a great, yeah, we should know that off the top of it. That's a good thing to know. Longest point streaks. Because he is truly out of control right now. They lost the Kings in a shootout. But he just has a point every single game.

Okay. So McDavid just hit 18, career high, and it's active. Here are the active players who have higher ones. Okay. Corey Perry has a 19 gamer. a pair's in which he had 26 points. Taylor Hall had a 19 gamer. He also had 26 points.

Halsey is such an interesting NHL player. McKinnon had a 19 gamer. That's also so funny that you're like 19 games or pairs 19 games 26 points. McDavid is 1842. God, he's good. McKinnon had a 19 gamer 36 points. McKinnon had another 19 gamer 38 points. Patrick Kane had a 20 gamer.

Yeah, 43 points. Mitch Marner had a 23 gamer. I remember that. I remember that. Sidney Crosby had a 25 gamer, 50 points. Oh. Patrick Cain had a 26 gamer. 40 points.

That's the highest among still active players. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Number one. Oh, we're going all the way to time. I'm just going to tell you who was the record. Wayne? Wayne. 82 games.

So Kane or 26th gamer, Wayne just ahead of him, most all time. 51 gamer, 153 points. That is utterly preposterous, yeah. A 51 game points streak averaging three points per game. 51 games. I swear to God, it couldn't have been fun for him. There's no way that Wayne Gretzky had fun in his NHL career. 51 games, 61 goals, 92 assists.

92 assist yet. We were, we talked about trying to get 100 assists seasons. Yeah. Dude, he did it in it

during a point street. Dude, he made a comment when he was talking about Ovi. Um, I think I was watching a fate, an old face-off episode on Amazon

when Ovi breaks the record and Wayne's there. And he made a comment where his dad when Wayne was retiring, he was like, don't retire. Like play one more year. And Wayne goes,

dad, I have nine goals this year. And also not to dig into this bullshit again, but that, is, like, no one took care of themselves back then, which is why they fall off cliffs so hard, which is why people are even able to break Wayne's records, because, like, you know, no one is even ever close to Wayne's peak. Yeah.

People just have more longevity of still playing incredibly well, like, was what Alex is doing right now. And he goes, dad, I had nine goals this year. I'm retiring. And he said to his dad, nine goals used to be a good weekend. Yeah. That's what he said. And I was like, you're right.

Like Wayne would play two games on the weekend and be like, I had five on this one, at four, the second game, a great weekend for me. Insane. Not in a fucking season. Utterly insane. 51 point game point streak. Outrageous.

Oh yeah, but I want to say this. McDavid and QB got into it a little bit. Oh, yeah. And a great game. Kings shootout, fucking tilt. Let's see what the standings are right now. Oilers in second. Kings are a second wild card.

Wild card currently. And Oilers could never be first in the West, because Colorado is obviously going to do that. And this will all change a bunch. But just can you, what happens, genuinely, what happens in the world if the Kings and the Oilers play in the first round? At current standing, I think that Oilers would sweep the Kings. But I'm saying what happens to the fabric of the universe?

Nothing. I think people laugh. go here we go again because at current standing it's not interesting yeah if the kings make some changes and get back into good form like i i very strongly believe they can then it's interesting and if it's like if it's like oh shit this is going to be a good series i'm like oh my god and in copi's last year with everything that's going on it would be like you have to fucking beat this team because if if copi loses the o's in the first round five years in the last five years of his career in a row I would hate that very much.

Me too. I would hate that very, very much. Me too. Another cool thing, Alex Govechkin, scored his 20th of the season last night, two nights ago. And it became his 21st season, 21 straight seasons.

I'm scoring 20 or more. He's never scored less than 24 goals, and even that was in a shortened season than 56 games. It is so funny how he has two now seasons that got shortened for dumb reasons, including there was also like a lockout season. Just the year.

And these guys still have all these fucking stats and records. It's insane. He was tied with Ron Francis, who also had 20 straight. Alex stands alone in second place at 21 straight. Gordy Howe 20 or more goals in 22 straight seasons, NHL record. Does he come back? 100%.

O has 20 goals and 20 assists. Yeah, he's a perfect way. For 40 points and 46 games. I feel like people think, I've heard from a lot of Caps fans who are like, oh, you can notice he's slowing down. And I'm like, well, of course. I mean, what are we talking about? The guy is, he's 40 years old.

He's literally 40. I thought, like Alex of Etchkin guys is 4-0 years old in the National Hockey League, and he's scoring 20 goals and 20 assists at the halfway mark. I mean, if, I mean, to quote Osh, when he, we were talking about, talking to him, and we were talking about how long he's going to play, and he said, O is going to do whatever O wants to do. Yep. I think this display shows clearly that he

easily can still do it if he wants to. And I do believe that O will be Yager. I think he... Interesting. I think O loves this game so much, and when he retires, I think he's just going to go back to Russia. I think he's going to take the family, go back to Russia, and we'll never see him again. He'll play there. He'll play something. He'll buy a team. He'll own a team, play... He will be Yager.

Yep. But I think he loves this team. I think he loves that city, and I think he loves playing hockey in the National Hockey League, and he clearly can do it. Yeah. So, yeah, I think we're getting two more years ago. That would be sick, because I was definitely in the camp of he was retiring this year,

even if he was playing well. I expected him to play well, but I was like, I think he's just going to be done because he did it. He did it all, and now he can go back and, like, you know, live. Yeah. Live to the fullest. There is a part of me that wonders. if he wants a thousand goals. Yeah, because that's actually getable.

He has what, 917 right now? Yeah. Let's say generously he finishes with 937 this year because I think 40 would be like he's over halfway. Yeah. He just hit 20. Yeah. Actually, he started a little slow.

So let's call it 40. Let's say 937. So. I think that's three more years. I mean, maybe only two more. Maybe only two. Because if he stays on a 40 clip. Yeah.

But like that's, it's crazy to be like he's 42 years old. That's what I'm saying. But if he played to like 44 and just did the Yager thing, like maybe he, you know, gets popped around. He's like, dude, make me a power play merchant on a couple teams here. And he just like scores 25 for like three years. Because I don't think he cares if he was like, I score nine goals a year. Yeah.

You know, I think he was like, whatever. I'll tell you this. If he scores 40 this year and finishes with 937 and then plays next year and scores 40, he will play until he gets a thousand. Because at that point, he's at like 977. Yeah, 977. And I'm like, come on, bro. You've got to do it.

I would file a lawsuit against every NHL team if people didn't sign him. Like, if he retires fine, but if he's like trying to play and people are like, no, I'd be like, are you kidding me? Dude. Then we have a guy who's potentially going to score a thousand NHL goals. I would want him to retire upon scoring the thousandth goal. You know how you did the seal slide? No, no.

You know when Matthew can check and OT hit the gate and left. Dude, score your 1000's goal and walk off the ice. Literally walk off the ice and hang up your jersey. God, dude. I actually didn't realize how badly I need Obie to score 1,000. And now it's like my life's dream. It is absolutely crazy. I said it'll get in a fucking golden stick for a thousand points.

A thousand tucks. What are you insane? Oh, my God. All right, before we hit a quick ad break, just wanted to shout out. A shout out. Cool moment. Our boy, Hudson Williams, from Heated Rivalry, went on Jimmy Fallon last week

and gave the fellas a nice shout out. Holy shit, dude. Shouted us out on the show. Very unexpected. I got a DM. I was on my way to Beer League. You were skiing, I think. Yeah, well, I wasn't literally, but I was, I think I was driving.

I was like driving back. I was at hockey, and I got a message from someone who was at the taping and was like, hey, watch Fallon. Hudson shouts you guys out. And I was like, no way. and then I got out of hockey and had a billion text messages. How did you get that, by the way? How did I find that?

Yeah. Oh, you, you like, how did you get it? I was, I was pooping. Nice.

And someone DM me on Instagram and said, hey, you just got a shout out on Fallon. And I was like, no way. So I started trying to search it. And then they sent me a link to it. And they said,

go to five minutes. Yeah. So someone else did all the work for me. Incredible. I was before I even wiped my butt. I already knew the video. I had that upload on my story. I was just about to fold the TP.

I was about to fold it. Yeah. Not crumple. Fold, not crumple. That was sick. And I was, so you had said, you know, like, hey, there's a, that might happen. We should try to watch. And I was so expecting it to just kind of be in the middle of a sentence as we just plowed

through whatever Hudson was, what story he was telling. You know, I got watched the last, Epsteinner's live stream, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, no pause. And then when he was like, there's this cool podcast. podcast, empty debtors? And there was like a legitimate cheer from the crowd. Yeah. Big crowd pop. I was like, oh my God, dude. Yeah. That was, it was unexpected, but really welcomed. That was the best part. That was so cool. And then, and then, uh, it was class, I was that was actually a pretty good Chris impression, to be honest. It was fantastic. He actually did

an incredible Chris impression. It was fantastic. I really enjoyed that. And then we were also, because obviously we got to work and everybody was pumped up for us here. And we were all laughing how Fallon didn't totally get it. Right. He's like, yeah. those guys didn't want to have feelings. And I was like, oh, no, we did. Jimmy. We did want all the feelings. We live for feelings.

It's the whole thing. I was like, oh, dude. But it was awesome. Huddy is just the best in the entire world. And also, shout out to the boys for presenting at the Golden Gloom. Yeah, that was incredible. They looked fantastic. They looked incredible.

Good bit, too. I like that bit. Great bit. They both looked fantastic. They both had such unique fits on, which was just, I mean, it felt very on brand for the two of them. They're just the best. fucking stars. Okay, let's take a quick ad break and then get into some college hockey. Winter classic is come and gone, which means the NHL is in full swing. It is hockey season.

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get in on the fun and make it legendary. It is time to head to campus and get into Netters' College Puck Drop. We had a wild weekend of college hockey lots to discuss. Starting off with our game of the week, we had Western Michigan going into Denver, and they won 4-1 on Friday and 6-2 on Saturday. CP, you've been all over this. Western Michigan, I feel like, had a maybe slow start to the year,

but they are 14 and 6 now. they are number six in the country and I think any questions about this team are long gone. The Broncos are fucking back. Dude, it's awesome to see because that was such a fun story last year. And it was like, is the pressure too much? You have a target on your back? What's going to happen? And early, they were winning, dude.

They were winning, but just they hadn't played anyone really. So they were like, everybody was like, they stink. And I was like, no, they don't. A lot of hockey left to be played this year, but that was a sick. weekend. Denver, I can talk about that too, where they've just been so Jekyll and Hyde. But this maybe isn't even a, I never remember which one is bad. Hyde is bad? Yes. Yeah. Dr. Jekyll is the good guy. This is less of a hide because Western Michigan is good. It's completely fine to lose to a really

good team. It sucks that it was at home, but they did dump both and you would have liked won. But Western Michigan, real deal. Absolutely. The real deal. Colorado College. Dan, you've been all over this one because they beat number four, North Dakota at home three two and overtime on Friday. Now, they did lose to North Dakota five to one Saturday, which was expected. But dude, CC is nine and ten on the year. And I swear that every one of those nine is like a monster win against a fucking high-ranked program. Colorado College for me is just, they're not an easy out.

Yeah. I don't think we're going to see them winning any championships this season. But they are, they're a tough-ass team to play against. And it's like, whenever a good team goes up against them, I'm like, this is not an easy win. Clearly it's just on display every single time they play. It's fucking unbelievable. So stick taps to them. Five Duluth.

Great team. They've been coming on strong. They've got the plant pros. We always talk about some of the best players in the country. They beat Lyndon Wood 6.3 on Friday and 8.4 on Saturday. A couple of good home wins. But yeah, like we talked about, Max Plant is just a top of the league, 36 points, top of the nation. He's been utterly fantastic.

And Zams have been great, too. Shaga Bay's been great. That team is dangerous. Yep. Dangerous. Penn State beat the gofers. Three nothing Friday, five two on Saturday. Penn State, I think, is going to be in the mixer by the end. And this was a sad one for me because I really wanted the gophers to completely save their season.

And it's not over, but this would have been a nice feather in the cap, another notch on the old belt, if they could have taken some from here. But Penn State got the job done. Gavin McKenna had an assist. Welcome back. Welcome back from World Juniors. I hope he has a great second half. Let's talk about Gavin McKenna first.

Yeah, please. Is Gavin McKenna your number one overall pick still? Somebody brought this up recently and they said the answer is absolutely yes. The, I think he probably is because of potential and because of what we have heard some scouts say to us where it's like, oh, he actually is good. not taking over these games. But again, I was expecting more at World Juniors. He made that comment. Like, I'm ready to showcase my talents here because, yeah, this game, the NCA

is a little different, but don't forget, I lit juniors the fuck up last year. So watch me go to World Juniors, and then Canada leaves with a bronze medal, and he wasn't dominating. Yeah. So it concerns me, especially, dude, because the hype around this kid was literally, literally, literally more than Maclin or Bedsie. Like they were like this, you think my guard's good. Way do you see this kid.

I know. I've said this to you before. I can't remember I said it on the show. I think that if he doesn't go one, it is a massive win for whoever picks two. Oh my God, yes. But also for the CHL, all the Canadian Junior Leaks. Because they have gone through this identity crisis recently of,

God, we're going to lose all our best players to college now. This is allowed. There goes Gavin McKenna. There goes Port-a-Martone. But if you go, look what happens. You think you were the lock number one, and I promise you if Gavin McKenna had stayed in juniors, he would have another 150-point season and would be easily the first pick. Sure.

And he went, I'm going to go test myself in the NDA, and they went like this. He's actually not that good. He's now going third. I think that I'm, if I'm a Canadian junior kid, I'm like, I'm not going to fucking college now. you shitting me. Yeah. Fuck that.

I'd rather stay lighting up juniors with my boys and then I'll go one. So I actually think it's a, it's... You could look at the other side, though, and look at it as this is the best league. For sure. Which I think everyone thought it was already. Yeah. You know, I guess no, I guess I'm probably some people are like, no, juniors is better. But the NCAA, you're a fool.

The NCAA is the best league for sure. It is. It's just like you're just, you add in the fact that you're playing such. Like how many points does he have? You're playing men. Gavin McKenna, I got it right here. In 18 games, he has 15 goals, 19 assists. He's got 1.06, or excuse me, he has four goals.

I think he has four goals, 15 assists for 19 points in 18 games. He's averaging 1.06 points per game. Interesting. Interesting. He is not having a good year. Yeah, especially because. I think we can say right now, Gavin McKenna, has been a disappointment at Penn State.

Yeah, paid a lot of money. He's been a disappointment for this team. They are not at the top of the rankings. They are, you know. He's going to be nowhere near Hobie Baker. They're nowhere near. They're barely a top 10 team. And you look at the way, you know, guys like Will Smith,

guys like Macklin-Cellibrini, they get into college and they fucking light it up. Gavin is not doing that. Yeah. It's very interesting. And you got guys like, I'm not entirely sure how to say this kid's first name, but I think it's Tyne and Lawrence.

He just left the USHL joined BU. He's only played two games, but he's a massive prospect. People really like him. You've got Ivers Stenberg from Furlunda in Sweden. You've got Keaton Verhof, who is at North Dakota. There are good players in this draft, and you do wonder if this season continues for Gavin,

I don't think it's a lock that he is the number one. Which is fucking crazy. It's just something worth talking about. Number two, Michigan State went to Ohio State. We've won 6-2 on Friday and lost 2-1 on Saturday. Huge win for Ohio State, who is a great team. We talk about it a lot. But as we talk about, you can't lose when you're one of the big dogs

and Michigan State is one of the big dogs. You cannot lose games. I don't care for their rivalry games, whatever, whatever. But they were on the road. Ohio State is good. but they want that one back. Yep. Quinnipiac hosted Union and won 7-2 on Friday and then hosted RPI and 1-4-3 and O-T on Saturday.

Quinnipak's good. They've had a few bumps, of course. Everybody does. No one goes undefeated in this league. Quinnipak's good. They get the job done. Great team. Another team with a lot of hype beginning of the year.

We're into the ivies. Cornell plays Alaska Fairbanks. They won 7-1 on Friday and 5-2 on Saturday. Easy work. And dude, look at Cornell was 14 coming in, Dartmouth 11 coming in, Princeton 20 coming in. So these Ivy teams are getting in. in the mixer here.

Dartmouth was 11, beat Harvard 5-4 on Friday. Great win. Princeton, number 20, beat RPI 5-2 on Friday, lost to Union 4-2 on Saturday. They did the old switcheroo with Quinnipiac. Princeton's good, tough loss, but Union's competitive. You know, whatever. You're fine.

You're fine. My boys, Michigan played Notre Dame, beat them 5-2 on Friday and 7-4 on Saturday. I don't love the four goals, but when it's a point night like that, 7-4, it's fine. Michigan stays number one in the country, obviously. Yep. And then some funny, like home and home stuff started happening.

Yukon, number 10, Yukon played Lowell at home Friday and lost 5-3, but then went to Lowell on Saturday and 1-5-1. So you hate the home loss, but good bounce back because you avoided the fucking disaster weekend. Absolutely correct. Who are we at now? We got BU. Number 19, BU at UMass Friday.

They won 1-0, but then hosted UMass on Saturday, lost 2-0. Same deal. I'm like, what are you doing? Also, low scoring games. We always talked about the over-in college hockey hits. Yep. Very interesting stuff. Northeastern went to Vermont for the weekend.

They lost 3-2 on Friday and 5-3 on Saturday. Number 16 ranked Northeastern. That was bad. That is a tough, tough skid for the Huskies. Do not like to see that. Yep. Number three, Wisconsin, hosted Anchorage, won 5-0 Friday, 3-2 on Saturday. You know, wins a win, tight one.

Who gives a fuck? Very true. Thanks for the dub. BC, beat Stonehill, 8-2 on Friday. BC number 13 of the country and then a big smackdown. Stonehill. Good program but not really a threat. This is continuing

a good run for BC. I feel like BC Hagen's, Laterno playing really well. All of a sudden it looks like BC hockey is going to make some waves this year, which is exciting. Yes, it is. Number 17, Augustana beat Northern Michigan 3-0 and 2-0

on the road over the weekend. You love a road sweep. You love a road sweep in the biggest way possible. This is very true. number 15 Minnesota State lost at home to St. Thomas 4-2 on Saturday. Tough. Tough. Tough. And then a great tilt over the weekend.

18 Providence had number 12 Maine in town. And Providence won 6-1 on Friday and 3-0 on Saturday. Those are fucking monster. Monster Ws for the Friars. Black Bear's been a little streaky. They're good. They're good. And they're going to be in the mix of it.

They've been a little, they've had some tough weekends. You know, it's on the road, but just like you're, you're fucking 12 in the country. You want that one. Yeah. Great, great weekend for Providence. Before we get into our new rankings, I did want to give some stick taps to the women's game. Abby Murphy, dude. On the gophers, Minnesota, scored the goal of the year in both the NHL and college hockey over this weekend. She passed it, though, right?

It was, yeah, yes. Well, Abby comes in, juggles the puck. knocks it down through the legs of the defender, collects it with her backhand, and then one-handed, passes it over to Frankl, I believe, who tucks it in. But good Lord Almighty, this play was,

it was something from Chelle. I was like, and was she, was that the plan? I think, absolutely. I think so, too. I think she's like, I'm gonna flip this fuck up in the air. The plan, the move and the dangle was the plan.

I'm wondering if the pass was the plan the whole time too, but it just looks like it totally was. When she taps it down, she corrals that, and the pass was the move the whole time. Yeah, yeah. She collects it, one-hand dish, tucked in. Goal of the year, it will not be beat. Absolutely insane. Check out the women's hockey and check out the women's gopher.

That was fucking unbelievable. Getting into our rankings, run it down for me. Michigan, one, for sure. I want to go Western Michigan, too. I don't hate that. Did they do enough to jump Duluth for you? Yes. Yes, they did.

Because Duluth and Wisconsin, I feel bad punishing, because they didn't do anything wrong. They won hockey games. Yeah, like, yeah. But they didn't beat anyone that is blowing your hair back, and Michigan State did lose, and Western Michigan went to Denver. If that was home, it would be different story.

No, that's big. Because, like, Denver was, you know, I mean, Denver's a top 10 ranked team. Yeah. I'm not sure I can have them jump Wiscoe. I'll go Michigan. And you're killing Michigan State now, too. They lost. They did lose. They did lose.

They lost. I feel bad about North Dakota, but they lost. Like, I think North Dakota is nasty, but, like, Michigan State lost. North Dakota lost. I'm going to go Michigan one, obviously. Wisconsin 2. Then I'll go Western Michigan. Okay.

Then Michigan State. They probably deserve that respect. Yeah. But I would hear Duluth. I would hear Duluth too. Michigan State is just so good. Yeah, but what have you done for me, Lake? They won a game.

Yeah, but win two. Win two? Yeah, that's why they go from two down to four. Give me Duluth there. No. Michigan, Wisconsin, Western Michigan, Michigan State Duluth. No DAC.

No DAC. Then. Quinnipeak? Nope. Dartmouth? BC. Too high. What?

Too high. Okay. Quinnipeak. Okay. BC. Why is BC over Dartmouth? I'm right about BC. I'm right about this.

I like it, but why are they over Dartmouth? Because they are that good. But so is Dartmouth. They rinsed Stonehill by a billion gold. Yeah, but come on. Well, Dartmouth almost lost to Harvard, but they didn't. BC is next. What are we at?

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Yeah, so BC's eight. And then are you putting Penn State and Denver in? It would feel harsh to punt Denver, but Denver had a brutal weekend. Yeah. Maybe you get punted. Maybe you go BC8, Penn State 9. Dartmouth 10.

Okay. Deal. BC8, Penn State 9, Dartmouth 10, Denver, get fucked. Yukon get fucked. Unbelievable. Okay, so our games of the week, we got Denver at North Dakota, Friday, Saturday. It's going to be a great tilt, but there is no question about it. We've got Michigan State and Wisconsin.

Thursday, Friday. We're starting the weekend early. We love when we start the weekend early. Number two and three ranked teams in the country. Unbelievable talent on both of these teams, both these programs. That is going to be a no-brainer. We're dial into those games, the Big Ten Network, Friday and Thursday, Michigan State at Wisconsin. Unbelievable stuff.

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But it also opens a discussion. So last night, the Golden Globes were, on. Shout out Timmy. Shout out Timmy. The New England Patriots game was on. Shout at Drake May.

And I wanted to watch both. And Chris has two TVs in his living room at his house, which is fantastic. It's incredible. So we were able to watch both. I do have a critique. You and Sandra could have done a better job with the volume. There were a couple times where I just dialed. There were just a couple of times where I felt like I wanted to see what was going on with

the Golden Globes and nothing interesting. was going on in the Patriots game and I could have had volume. Dude, I actually, I'm surprised by, I thought I was going to basically watch the entire Patriots game on mute. Yeah. Because Sandra really, and I was interested in the Globes too. And frankly, you need to hear that more than you need to hear the football game, right? Like I can, there are moments when you're like, oh, what happened in this whistle? But it's like, whatever.

So I was like, yeah, all good. So I just had, I was really only going, my plan was to only go to the football game when the Golden Globes were on commercial. And then Lily, of all people. Our friend Brett's girlfriend was there, and she had made a bet on the pads. So she kept being like, yo, when they were both on, she'd be like, give me that football volume.

And I was like, oh, okay. And she was the only one being vocal about it. So I would just do what she said. You were servicing the crowd. Yeah, no one said anything. So I was like, oh, okay. Know that I was sitting there silently being like, put the golden gloves.

Yeah, dude. I'm also such a fucking bad sports fan. I'm being like, I want the golden globes on. You know what happened to me, though, dude? But like, I can watch sports. Yep. I need to hear what is being said at the Golden Globes. I don't understand how you could watch the Golden Globes without volumes, though. You can't. You can't.

You're just watching people in suits, picking up trophies and crying. You can't, but it was like, sometimes they would go, here are the nominees. And I'd be like this. Because, like, I know what they are, and they're just going to show me, like, these, like, blurbs from the movies that I am. Like, I don't give a fuck. I know who the nominees are.

and I will come back on I don't even need to hear them say the winner I'll just they'll say the winner and then I'll come back to them for their winner's speech we're getting off topic here but acting award show speeches are such a funny hot button issue I know it's

I feel like people critique them so much that if you were ever lucky enough to win I feel like the only move is to just go up there and be like this I love everyone thank you so much I'm out of here it's like otherwise you just get dissected and it's craziness. I do think as well, it's like whenever you see

some sort of like heartfelt speech from an actor, in my mind, I'm always thinking, are they acting right now? Yeah. Isn't that rude? It's, I worry that too. And sometimes I'm like, oh, these poor people, they can just never no one never knows or trust when they're being genuine. Can they be like trusted in court?

Yeah. No. Yeah, that's actually not. Dude, that's so funny. Or on a jury? That's so funny. At a jury, you should be like, are you an actor? And they're like, okay, you're out. Yeah. It's like, you that'd be insane. I felt bad because I went over to Chris's and as I was on the way, Chris was like, we're ordering dinner. Do you want anything?

And I said politely, no thank you. Because I left your house to then go eat alone at a restaurant. Yes. And I do this often on Sundays. And I went to one of my favorite establishments. I brought my iPad and I read. and I ate. Now, I am team meal alone is great.

I go to the movies alone a lot. Sometimes doing things alone is lovely. Yeah. However, I did sit at a table, and I think a lot of people have called me out for this and said, if you eat alone, you have to eat at the bar. You simply must. What if there is in a bar?

Discuss. Then you can't eat there. You can't sit with us, dude. You cannot eat there. I went like this. Oh, I'm just going to sit by the bar. bar and I'm alone and they say oh we don't have a bar I guess I will say I don't think there's anything wrong with going to the movie theater alone you need I love it I don't think that there's

anything wrong with eating alone but there is in my brain like a budgetary limit to like what is too fancy of a meal to not share with somebody so in my brain I'm like there are like you reference the place with a bar which if I go to a place and it has a bar it's probably within the price range where I can acceptably eat alone but if I'm I'm going to like an actual like nice steakhouse or something. I'm like, I don't want to, you know, enjoy this alone. I want to enjoy this experience with somebody. And they probably don't have a bar because it's like a fancy steakhouse.

But I bet they do have a bar show. I love the logic. I love the line of budget. But I bet the really nice steakhouses do have a bar. I agree. I can't even think I still wouldn't do it because of the price. When I think about my favorite nice restaurants, they all have bars. Yeah.

What does that say about you? No, I'm saying like... Yeah, no, I don't know what I've... I retract the comment then. I retracted it. No, but it was a good thought, but now I'm thinking about it. I'm like, every place has a bar. Dude, wait.

Is there a restaurant without a bar? Cheesecake Factory. Are you sure? I might actually have a bar. Because I'm pretty sure in Stepbrothers... Yeah, he goes to have a... Mr. Doback goes and gets drunk at the bar. All right, cheesecake factory.

You reek of what? Of cheese and booze. Yeah, is it booze? You reek of booze and cheesecake. This is genuinely kind of blowing my mind now. I can't think of a place now. I can't think of a restaurant. But now we're back to your thought from the other day.

They're ordering standing up. Right. If you're obviously like small restaurants that don't have bars. Yeah, yeah. Like if I were to go to a... Like an Italian place. They have bars. Do they?

Danis has a bar. Olive Garden. Bar. Olive Garden has a bar. Do they? Hell, yeah. Yeah, they do. Yeah, that's the hack at Olive Garden is you go in, you go to the bar.

You don't go wait for a table, just go straight to the bar and they have like high talks. Notariously having super long lines. Oh, yeah, buddy. Unlimited breadsticks and salad. Are you fucking nuts? And dude, the bar is just a trough of salad. Like, so you get to go to the bar and it's just, you're just eating. You're talking about a salad bar.

No, no. That's not a bar. That is the bar at a log garden. It is a literal salad bar. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean, Dan. It's not like, oh,

scoo, put it in your bowl, like the bar is a tossed salad if you just eat from it. I think, especially when I'm reading, this is such performative male shit that I do now that I think about it. When I'm eating alone and I'm reading. Yeah. When I'm eating alone and I'm reading, I think it's better to be at the table than at the bar because if you eat alone instead of the bar, you've got to talk to the bartender. But when I'm bringing my book, I just want to read. I don't want to be bothered. And the few times I have eaten alone, I brought a book every time because I'm like.

It's great. I'm like, I can't wait to read this. It's wonderful. And, yeah, I think you got to just, I think you need to set a table because then you have privacy. Yeah. I think I want a booth. You know, I think I think the best solo dining experiences happen in like diners. Yeah.

Like boots in a diner. Because then you can sit, you can slide all the way back to the boot. Yeah. Maybe put your leg up. Yeah. Really get comfortable. So much space. Nobody bothers you.

You can be there forever. And it has like every type of food for any time of day that you want to go be alone. Yeah. Also, breakfast places don't have bars. You're right. like diners. They don't have bars. Yeah.

Which is sad. I would actually like that. But like I've never stepped put in a diner. A diner doesn't have a bar. Except for like men. Shut up bar. Yeah, but that's more of like an ice cream bar. Yeah, it's like an ice cream bar.

Yeah. I'm like another root beer float. You're getting a crap. So yeah, I'm team sit at the table. I need to do a survey for the next year of all the places I eat at and how many have bars and how many don't. And how many you order standing up at and how many order sitting down. Dude, we have some friends that actually should hit them up because I didn't get the final results.

On January 1st, 2025, it's a group of like eight of them. They tracked every single time they sneezed to see how many sneezes you have in a year. Sometimes I think Chris forgets that we're on a live podcast when you do shit like that. I think people are fascinated. When you go like this, oh, dude, I was actually thinking about this. I immediately am like, is this going to be a completely ridiculous

statement that is nothing to do with what we're talking about on the phone. Like, I genuinely think sometimes you just sit here and you think you're talking to two of your buddies and you forget that we're recording the show. That's exactly what I'm doing. Absolutely. I think people will be fascinated to hear this. Okay. Your friends tracked their sneezes.

Yeah. And they did it for the whole year about how many sneezes. And one of them, how many times you think you would sneeze in a year? Three hundred sixty-five days. Three hundred sixty-five days, I'd say sneezing 78 times. Are you out of your mind? mind? Are you out of your mind? Are you like, what the fuck are you talking about?

78? Oh my gosh. What are you saying to me? Do you think I'm way too low or way too high? Insanely low. Okay. I know, keep in mind, I am a machine gun sneezer, but I would if I would, yeah, well, we can't all compete with you. I know, but I'm saying my number is probably in the 10,000. 10,000, 365, I would not be surprised.

When I sneeze, I sneeze like 10 times, and I probably sneeze two or three times a day. If I walk out in the sun, I sneeze. Yeah, same. You're sneezing more than 78 times in a year. What number are we at? What's the... Wait, wait, wait, before we go, what's your actual guess? For me?

Yeah. Honest to God, I would say I probably sneeze... In a year, I would guess that I sneeze... between 3,000 and 4,000 times. That's such a wide rate. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. All right.

So you're between 3,000 and 4,000. I'm at 78. I bet my... My alter ego is named Dean Sneezy for a reason. I'm a two-pop guy. Like, I'm a bang, bang, you know? Yeah. Double barrel.

You got machine gun and double barrel. Yeah, I'm double barrel. Dan's a machine. Dan's a Tommy gun. And he is, dude, it's actually fucking crazy. When he's driving and I'm in the passenger seat, and he's like, and I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going? Actually, I've joke before.

When I'm driving and I sneeze, I have to try, I'm like, I'm like, too, to try to keep my eyes. Dude, we got to get you a self-driver. Did your friends tell you a number? I just texted him. I hope he answered right now. I just, because I texted him for the high and the low so we can get the range. Who did this?

Or it doesn't matter. Stu. It doesn't. Of course. There's no chance that they accurately kept that. Bro. You would just forget. No, Stu, this is so obvious.

Stu, or not obvious, it's so typical. Stu created a independent, non-company-dependent Slack channel, and they all added to it, and he wrote a Slack code that all you had to do was hit the number one and hit Enter, and it knew your name, and it would add it to your thing. All this work could have been used for something like, Great. During cancer. So anytime you sneeze, all I like to do is just go out of the thing and go do.

I'm saying you would just forget times. Like, there's times like in the morning you're brushing your teeth or hopefully not. You're spraying toothache. But there just had to be times when they sneeze and they didn't remember it a lot. I think they were pretty dialed. And one guy was coming in so low and then he got a cold. And then he was fucking sneezing out his ass. Like that's what I'm saying, Sean.

Like you get sick once a year, I bet. I never get sick. I'm actually sick right now. I never get sick. I am perfect. 78. 78. I bet I would be,

my guess for myself would be like, 900. You, you're like price is writing us a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right, correct. But like, I sneeze, I don't have to be sick to sneeze.

Oh, me neither. All the time. But do you sneeze every day? Absolutely. You know, I sneezed a lot yesterday. I was, in the new apartment, I was, like,

dusting off some stuff that I took down from the attic, and I think that dust was making me sneeze a lot. So I think I might have already gone over my 70s. this year is like January 12th. 78 is incredible. You come across one dusty room. I may have been wrong about this. I'm starting to think

I'm incorrect. Oh my God. I did Google it right now in case your friend doesn't get back to you if you want to know what Google says. Yeah, I do. Oh yeah, I do. This is the Google like AI thing which is like Gemina. I find to be like 40% accurate so we'll take it with a grain of salt. But it says around 450

times a year. Low. Low. Low. I'll get the data. I can't. I'm jealous thinking about there, there are people out there who apparently don't sneeze. They go an entire day without sneezing. There's people like there that sneeze only 78 times a year. Bullshit. This has been the most unhinged, not ice of all time, and I absolutely love it.

I hope everyone else did too. Let's jump into Beer League Hotline and try to get this thing back on the rails. You guys ready? Yes, sir. A guy on our team has been dating our captain's sister. He had the captain's. blessing, all was well, then she cheated on him. And they broke up.

She was 100% in the wrong, it was pretty fucked up, but it's put the captain in a tough spot since it's his sister at the end of the day. The guy has been sounding off about her in the room post-game because he's understandably pissed, but he called her a whore and the captain put hands on him, who is in the wrong? We all need to meet new people. That is a Schmit from New Girl quote, and it is so applicable. You can't dip the pen in company ink, as they say, and I feel like it's hard to avoid these days. It's, you know.

Dude, I was like, where is that going? Oh, this is an incredible new expression. Stricken, stricken from the record. That's an incredible new expression. Is all of your friends' sisters now just out of balance now? I just, I think when it comes to a team, I said you can't dip the pen in Company, you can't dip the pen in family member of Companies Inc. either. Okay. It's not, I think friends, family members is a dangerous game.

Teammates family members is a really dangerous game. But you don't expect, you can't live life expecting a cheat. Something to go wrong. Because I think if they broke up from the sounds of this, I don't know these people, obviously, from the sounds of it, it's like the captain, they're friends, and the captain's like, yeah, dude, that's completely cool. We are completely, completely passing by the fact that we can't have beer league team captains. I think they, I hope they mean GM.

Yeah, just like the guy who organized the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope. If this dude is wearing a sea on his jersey in beer league, that is another beer league outline. I don't trust his sister. Yeah, I don't trust anyone in their family. I don't trust the sister of a man wearing a sea. So we're going to ignore that. So I think you can live with the world where the GM goes, that's cool.

We're friends and that's great. And then if you break up, it's okay because humans break up and, like, all will be well. Yeah. Yeah. I think they were living in that world. So you can't live expecting her to cheat. Yes. I, okay, let's take this a step at a time.

I'm completely okay with this relationship. I think that's lovely, actually. When I had the blessing. Let's say that they had gotten married and people ask their origin story and you go, I was on a beer league and she was actually, she's the sister of our team GM. A lot more interesting than to be met online. I think that's a lovely story. So I'm in full support of this relationship.

Now, the fact that this gal cheated on you. Horrible. horrible, we hate a cheater, that sucks. And it sounds like she was in the wrong, it sounds like it was pretty fucked up. Yeah, like probably like repeat cheating. Probably rampant cheating. And I'd be lying to you if I said

that I wasn't a little bit interested in what happened. Because it sounds like this is like a juicy betrayal. Well, I mean, we know she's into hockey players. Do we think it was another player? Is this a, this is a pucked situation? There's no way it was on the team, because they would have said that. Yeah. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was if this guy laced them,

himself. Yeah. If his mystery man also liked to lace him up. Yeah. Okay, so that sucks. You've got to be the bigger man.

You've got to control yourself. Because your team captain and friend didn't do anything wrong to you. Except allowing you to date his cheating. Stop it. He knew the whole time.

Stop it. But she's cheating on her last four boyfriends. He didn't warn you. This guy didn't do anything wrong to you. Yeah. And at the end of the day, this is his family member. So you can't go into that locker room. and air out your dirty laundry with him in there.

I think that is, you've got to be the bigger man. You've got to control yourself and you've got to find a different place to vent. And if you are going to vent, and this guy's been cool about it, he's been like, listen, I get it, that sucks. You can't be calling her a whore. That's ridiculous.

So that's where I... It's ridiculous behavior. I think you're actually right about the whole thing, but I was going to give him a little slack on... You can come in the locker and be like, yeah, it fucking sucks. she she shouldn't have done that to me and I'm pissed at her

because she fucked this really she fucked up a good thing if he was doing that in the locker room I think I would have been like easy but okay this is your right you've been you've been trounced upon clearly the team is more than just

the team that he plays with and he has another social circle because if that was the case he just wouldn't bring it up yeah right he would be venting with other people but the fact that he's bringing it up with teammates

means that this is kind of his space to vent this kind of And it's where he usually vents all of his like, you know, it gets his social fulfillment from. So it does leave you in kind of a weird situation where it is hard to vent about that thing while still being totally respectful. Like, it's cool, I guess. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine.

I think that the brother needs to understand that, you know, he's going to have ill feelings towards it. Yep. But also the particular choice of language is what's said it off. Exactly. Because, Sean, to your point, I bet the boys were even, the other boys were being like, hey, dude, sorry, I heard, that sucks. I bet they were even bringing it up.

For sure. I know it's fucking brutal. I can't believe she fucking did that. I hate her now. All justified. Yeah. But you just, I will not sit here and tolerate a whore in front of her brother. The question, who's in the wrong?

I don't think the cap would put hands on him. I don't, but that could have been a stern grabbing. Okay. I don't. Hey, watch it. I have no problem with that. I think a stern grabbing is still, like, If someone sternly grabs you like that, like you're in a 90s, like, you're getting bullied in a 90s movie.

Like, you're entitled to punch at that point. So it's kind of inviting physical violence, even if it is just like at that point. I don't think, and it sounds like he didn't hit him back. So he kind of was the bigger man in that moment. Listen, I think the cuckholds is in the wrong. It's an extremely tough day for that gentleman. It's a brutal day. You're a cuckold who's also in the wrong.

Listen, I'm really, really sorry for what happened to you, and I want you to continue leaning on your pals for support in this trying time, but you can't be flying off the handle like that. And you were right in that he got the blessing, so it's cool that they dated, and you are also right in that you can't go into a relationship expecting things to go wrong, but when you do something like date your friend's sister,

you sign a contract, a social contract, that if something goes wrong, you need to be careful about how you see. speak about her to sad family in front of him. Yeah. Call her whatever you please in the dark silence and quiet of your own room. You know. Yeah.

Try to be the bigger man. You were wronged. You've done nothing wrong here. You've been wronged. Be the bigger person and move on. Yep. Because that makes her look even worse. Yeah.

Because you go like this. I was wrong. I'm not going to speak poorly of you because I hope you deal with whatever issues you have that are making you act like this. That's so right then. Yeah. You lose moral. currency when you start

Yeah, right Which by the way is all you want In this situation Like now that it's blown up you're like At least look fondly upon me Yeah And now you've blown that Yeah you blew that

He messed up when he called her a whore And then I also think that the captain Should have probably just been like Hey like made a thing like That's like Go outside and talk about it Yeah yeah yeah Not just like immediately

Yeah okay both in the wrong No no no Well guy more in the wrong It sounds yeah I don't think you should put a hand on anyone ever, but it does sound like this guy was doing it a lot. Yeah, fair. And he was just sitting there, taking it.

Yeah, if he's repeatedly doing it, yeah, maybe. Then he's going around throwing out the W word, and he was like, all right, buddy, stop. So you know what? I'm team captain here. Well, no one's team captain. That would be uncool. I am not a team captain. I'm on team captain.

Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. All right, let's wrap things up with a Bauer, blind ranking Bauer, given us the best gear in the world, the Bower Pulse, the best stick in the game, probably used by a lot of guys on Team Canada. Hell yeah. And we are going to do a blind ranking of Team Canada's Olympic roster snubs. Actually, Team Canada, every team, is allowed to add 15 players to a reserve list.

Oh, yeah, okay. Of, I will add these people if something happens to my guys. And Canada has officially named the first six of their 15. And these guys are tight. These guys are dudes who have been snubbed in, I think, by definition. Yeah, so they're snubs, but they are on the reserve list. So the first six named, should we name? We're not going to name them.

Six have been named. Sean? Or actually, yeah, fuck it. Because not everyone will have looked at this. Okay. The six they've named. This is an interesting blind ranking. Are Connor Bardard, Sam Bennett, Wyatt Johnston, Mark Sheifley, Seth Jarvis, and Travis Kinepney.

So Sean is going to give us five of these six. So we do know who's coming in a way. Yeah. But there's going to be one left out. Yeah. So it'll be tight depending on what he gives us. Sean? I'm really just picking who I leave out.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, truly. Take it away. All right. Seth Jarvis. One. Ooh, really. Okay.

Actually, maybe you're right. I, for the, for the chemistry, for the chemistry alone. I think every one of these guys deserves to be on this team. Of course. At the point. times. And there's another gentleman here. I mean, there's all of them. But I just, as we've said, Jarvie was on the Four Nations team. He was a valuable member of said team. And he is having a career year this year. He's done everything right. The only thing that happened was he got injured.

And then he came back from injury already and scored in his first game back. I'm like, what did he do wrong? Yeah, truly. So I think he's my one. I'll do it. I'll do it. You don't have to. No, no, no. I like it. I like it. I love Jarvie. He's the fucking man. One. Connor Bedard.

Now that's where it's tricky. This is where it's tricky. I know. Because he deserved it, Dan. Oh, he is so good. He deserved it. He, he, where is he in points still? He's way up there.

Like, I actually think it's hilarious how easily we were like Max in. Well, that remains true. I know. But then, Badard, I think he just deserved, he deserved some credit. 46 points in 33 games You know and like That's not that crazy I'd go

I'd go God could you go for Would that be fucking insane? It would be tough but you certainly could Because there's just If it breaks right for me then I'd be happy Yeah If it breaks right for me I'd be happy

Sure That's tarsh but four again it's situational situational play the game you gotta play the game you gotta play the game Wyatt Johnston okay so I'm going five here me too and I'm gonna gamble and if and I want to say this about why when when even in the even before they picked the team

his name was coming up so much and I saw a lot of snub snub snubbed I just want people to know this about Wyatt Johnson he's an incredible player he leads the league or did I'm not sure if he still does in power play goals he is an absolute weapon mutant on the powerplay and Dallas's power play is great, you aren't getting power play time on this team. Correct. Which is why his skill set felt redundant on this team in this era right now.

That's why he didn't make it, in my opinion, and that's why I'm going five right here. Yep. Okay. Mark Sheifley. I feel fantastic about this list in terms of you could go two or... Well, depends on who comes next, but he could be a two or three for me. Damn it. I know.

I know. I know. And I think he was in my opinion probably the biggest snub because it just felt insane to not take him with what he has put on display this year. Yeah. But Jarvie and Bennett, this is kind of your argument, had more like do more in the roles that they should have gotten. Right? and Bennett the way he's been a big game player. Yeah.

So I think then I, even though I said Sharpe was my biggest snub, I think I would go three here. Okay, three. And play the game. So now. Three? So now only two is open. Sam Bennett. Oh, dude, you did us.

You did us. You did us very solid, Sean. And no offense to Travis Connected to he was a top seven player in the league. He's fantastic. No, but yeah, I think with, again, situationally, I think that is exactly right, and I think that's how I feel. Yep. And this was quite literally a perfect list, which almost was a very upsetting list, but it was perfect.

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