Empty Netters Podcast - The Maple Leafs Aren't Afraid Of Anyone In The League | EP.191

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

Toronto punches first against the defending champs and look good doing it. But a goalie injury is making headlines. The guys give their predictions for Caps/Canes, Vegas/Oilers, and Jets/Stars. The beer league hotline is unhinged and the blind ranking will piss people off. NEW EPISODES EVERY TUESDAY & THURSDAY! PRESENTED by BetMGM. Download the BETMGM app and use code “NETTERS” and enjoy up to $1500 in bonus bets if you lose your first wager! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: BAUER. Bauer is the go to destination for all your training needs. Head to http://www.bauer.com/training to explore tools like the Digital Reactor Danger for stickhandling or the Reactor Slide Board to add strength to your stride. DOLLAR SHAVE CLUB. Dollar Shave Club products are now available everywhere, so you can order from their website, Amazon, or get them at your favorite retailer near you. Visit their site right now for 20% off $20 or more, and get your products delivered right to your door. Visit http://www.dollarshaveclub.com/netters and use promo code NETTERS for 20% off $20 or more HALL OF FAME BETS. Get a 7-Day Free Trial + 50% Off your first month with code NETTERS. Just download the HOF app on iOS or Android, enter code NETTERS, and you’re all set. https://hofbets.com/ 00:00 INTRO 00:22 NOT ICE 13:50 LEAFS / CATS 36:07 PREDICTIONS 1:08:56 NHL DRAFT LOTTERY 1:17:40 BEER LEAGUE HOTLINE 1:22:59 BLIND RANKING Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm not even sure the Leafs deserved to win that game. But the best part about playoff hockey is it doesn't matter if you deserve to win. All that matters is the dub. Leaves fans don't give a damn how they win. Make it as greasy as gross and as pathetic as you want. As long as it's a dub in the column, they keep trucking. Ice is ready, and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast, brought to you by BetMGM.

It is round two of the playoffs. I am your host, Dan Powers. sitting right next to me. You're used to me suering him in the intros of this podcast, but I instead will sit here and say, the man defied all the odds, and he is not in fact sick again. Healthy boy, Chris Powers.

And dude, I would say by, as always, wow. Jesus Christ. Almost gotcha. And I would say, um, I was pretty close. It's, it's Monday. And I'm like completely fine. I was, I would say I was pretty spot on with my, uh, my,

obnostication. Yeah. You know, like, I was like, yeah, dude, literally by the weekend. You were pretty locked in. I won't lie. Like, I would argue that I was completely healthy by Saturday. And if you want to get me on a technicality that I wasn't literally 100% back Saturday, fine. But I was, I was not a sick person on Saturday.

And then by Sunday I was literally completely held. Yeah. So suck it. Suck it. Literally everybody. I mean, you win this round. I have nothing to say. I win every round.

Okay. Speaking of people who won every round, there's one thing I need to get into before we're talking about the madness go over our previews and everything. I am a mass murderer. Dude, this is, I don't even don't think Wags knows this story.

And what I, what, dude, have you ever seen the movie, Sines, Wax? Yeah, you are. There's a movie called Sines, which everyone should see, because it's fucking gas and it's M. Knight-Shah Malon. and there's a scene, it's about aliens.

There's a scene where they are showing a clip. It's like the first alien sighting from a kid's birthday party in Brazil. And Dan, you might have to help me here, but the reporter, she's like, what you are about to see. They're like, we're going to play the clip from the birthday. And I'm pretty sure the reporter goes,

be warned, what you are about to see may shock you. I think that's exactly. And, dude, for everyone listening, your car on your commute at your cube for everyone watching on YouTube what you are about to hear may shock you I need you to understand that and I want to give this warning before this story begins dude I nothing in my life could have prepared me for yesterday nothing but I told a story on this podcast several weeks ago that I have a mouse problem. It's been torturing me because I am a clean, I'm a very clean boy. And there is what appeared to be a mouse in the house. He was getting

in the pantry, chewing through bags of food. Now, mice get in anywhere. Oh yeah. It has nothing to do with the cleanliness. Well, sometimes it can, but you can have a clean house on a mouse. We know. We know. You've made that point. I just want that to be heard. That's what they all say. Yeah, exactly. My house is clean as hell. There's fucking mice everywhere. Shut up! Okay?

I'm in... I'm dealing with trauma. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. So, I lay traps everywhere, clean the house, tip to taint,

nothing. But also no evidence of a mouse. Yeah. Now, I would also... I wish... I want to maybe put a pickup. Dan went out of town to New York and was like,

hey, dude, stay on your bullshit for the mouse. And dude, hand to God. Like, I could, I could see that where Dan comes back for the weekend and the mouse is throwing a bachelor party in the pan. He's laying on the couch with the remote in his hand. And I'm like, watching Ratatouille.

I didn't know, dude. So I was like, not on my watch, not this time. And I laid more traps than you've ever seen literally surrounding the only place that we had deduced was the entry point. Yeah. So I was like, we got up, dude. I mean, you, it was out of.

control. Some would say it was too much. It was. The mouse comes out and is like, I mean, okay, dude. Yeah. You're not fooling anybody. But that's kind of a win, I think. Yeah, keep him at bay. I was like, whatever, dude. Leave. Be gone. So this weekend, our parents are in town. Our family friends who are essentially our other parents are in town.

So a lot of the fam is together at the house. We're having a nice, relaxed, cookout on a Sunday evening. We haven't seen this fucker in weeks. Weeks. Getting ready for some playoff hockey. and our buddy Shane's girlfriend, Kelsey, sees the mouse. And we think it's a rat. I think it's a rat.

It's a rat. She goes, I think I just saw him come out of the front hall closet. So I frustrated that this rat prick would show his gnawing, teetting, fucking rat face in the middle of the day in front of all my friends. With the sun up, dude. The sunup. So I go, enough is enough. And I go to the front hall, dude, and I open that door.

And it's a front hall closet. There's jackets in there. There's a broom in there. A mop in there. There's cleaning supplies. There's this. There's that. But the floor of the closet is full of nonsense.

And I go, I got to clean this out. So I grab a couple trash bags. I'm going to throw away some stuff. I'm going to clean this out, see if there's any evidence of a mouse in here. I grab eventually a shout-out, Nashville Predators jersey that is just folded up in there and a piece of mouse poop falls off of it. Yeah. And I go, okay, we're in business, dude.

We got it. There is, I was looking for evidence. I found evidence. Sounds like a Tom and Jerry episode. Yeah, correct. You just wait, wax. You never seen this episode, dude. You never seen this episode.

So I start rifling through and I'm pulling everything out now. Pulling, pulling, pull in, pulling, and eventually I start to see the floor of the closet. I've pulled enough stuff out. And there's a few boxes in the back. There's a router box in the back. And I'm looking in there, and I think I see something move. And then at first I go, is my mind playing tricks on me? I'm in my own head.

But then I kind of reach in, I lift a little bit, and then I just see a little nose of a mouse. And he turns around, and I see his little tail. And I go, okay, we got life. We have a literal life in here. So I look over, and I look over at my dad, and I go, I got him. There's a mouse in here. So he comes over.

Shane comes over. I give Shane a mop, like a swiffer, big flat paddle. And I have a hockey stick on brand. And I go, whatever you do, don't let him out of the closet. So with the hockey stick, I lift the box. This mouse runs straight out at us. Straight out. Shane panics a little bit, but then shows some good mental toughness and just stomps this mouse.

And, dude, I need you to hear that wax. I'm not saying, like, kicks it. I need you to hear that he's... Square on the bottom of his shoe stomps this mouse into the seventh circle of hell. I'm talking blood and guts

squirting everywhere. Like, Shane... Dude, oh yeah. Stomped. Dude. And I'm like, did you fucking stomp that? And I go, I go, holy shit, dude. Then I look up.

There's two more mice in the closet. Two more mice in the closet. Shane, after a curb stomping murder, gets a little queasy and he's like, I don't want to do this anymore. For the next 10 minutes, my father and I proceed to with a stick and a mop handle, move boxes and bags around that closet and just start relentlessly skull bashing mice. because not two, three, four, or five, but six, seven, and eight fucking mice. Eight. Bro.

Mice, dude. Keep in mind, dude, the fucking girls are losing their shit. Shane is, like, about to puke. Like, Shane's, like, getting sick. The girls are screaming. I'm fucking cooking burgers. I'm literally on the deck grilling burgers with a door open, whistling, minding my business.

And then I hear Brett comes out. He's like, Shane, just ston. The mouse. And I'm like, oh, yeah, they got one. And he's like, no, no, he's stomped on it. And then, like, Shane's, like, green over here. And so I'm like, what do you mean? And then I kind of peer in, because I don't want to burn the burgers, because the whole

dinner's counting on me. I peer inside. And Dan and Dad, dude, they look, you know those curlers in curling when they're like, trying to get the puck to move? These two motherfuckers, dude, like literally just bad, back, bad, bad, bad. It literally, it literally looked and sounded like two habachi chefs. Just going, bang, chop, chop, chop, chop,

bang, smack, smack, smack, smack, smack, smack. Just smashing in skulls, dude, absolutely bashing generations of mice. Dude, and then, like, that will happen. And then it's quiet, and I'm like, surely, they just killed all of them. And then it'd be like, whack, no, no, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, more, more.

I was like, dude, we didn't get them. I was literally, I was full on Peter Breeder from forgetting Sarah Marshall, just smashing this hockey stick on the ground going, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, just killing a mouse. After mouse, after mouse. It was fucking unbelievable, dude. I, when we finished, I then had to keep cleaning the closet.

Yeah. And sweep up into a dust pan, eight dead mice carcasses, put them in a trash can, and then, like, with gloves and a mask on, Clorox bleach the entire closet, and then eat a fucking family meal. And then as I come in with the food.

I will, I go, yeah, I'll take a burger and a hot dog, please. Yeah, dude. I don't know if I could eat after that. Dude, I had to choke it down, man. I was having nightmares of mice crawling in my bed last night. We're sitting down eating dinner and my mom looks at me and she's like, you're all right, you look a little shell-shell-shocked. And I was like, yeah, I just came back from a shooting range, dude.

What would an exterminator do in that case? Would they awesome kill them? I think they do the same thing. I have no idea. But what I did was horrifying. And listen, I'm an animal guy. We know this. Danny Dogfather.

But like, you can't be in my house, Mouse. Go outside. That's your home. Dude, I think it was fucking horrible. They,

if they, if we had opened that box, seen all eight, and they'd been like this, oh, please no. I think genuinely, we all would have gone,

get a bucket, put it on top of them and just kind of like slide the bucket out of the house. And I know people say like, they'll come back in, whatever, but I'm just like,

I think we would have done that from the human, but dude the second that we revealed them and they went like this it was like it just stuck it with literally no choice but to be like fuck you it's they moved dude they moved first is all i'm gonna say they fucking moved first and i will say the worst part of the story is we did not get the rat the rat is at large dude and potentially their mom like i don't even know how that works but there is a rat at large who is at the very least boys with those mice. Like at the very least, if not familial. He is boys with them. He's

going to come back to the closet and see they gone, dude, and then see fucking blood splatter on the wall. Actually, he's not because Dan clean it, but he's going to smell the fucking Clorox and go, okay, okay, I know what's fucking going down here. Dude, you like those fucking pretzel chips in the pantry? Gone. They're mine. Fuck you. So we got a problem, dude. I slept with an eye open last night. I thought he might wake up on Dan's chest. I'm not kidding. I locked my door last night. Yeah. Yeah. Does that make any sense at all? No. No. But I locked it. Yep. Just got to be sure. Something to think about, dude. But man, it was not fun. It was so traumatizing and it had to happen, I guess. But that was awful. Yeah. That was awful. And I wish it upon no one. But mice, get out of the house.

Yep. Correct. One time we had a mouse or mice in our house and one bit me, my dad took it and threw it like a hundred feet in the air. It's the coolest thing ever as a kid. I was like, wow, thanks, dad. That is sick. Similar story, bro. I was young. And I went into my parents' bedroom and I was like, yo, something is tickling my feet.

I was in bed. And my dad was like, all right, brother. Because I was young. It was probably like five. And he's like, dude, like this kid's just afraid to sleep alone. And he's like, you're okay. You're all right. And I go back in my bed.

and then I come back in and I was like, hey, something is tickling my feet. I don't know what's going on. My dad comes into my bedroom to show me that nothing is going on, and he rips my covers back, and there was just a mouse in my bed. True story. And he did the same thing, dude. He saw it, and he was like, oh! And he just like backhanded it off the bed into the wall.

But I've been being gaslit by my parents about mice. And I think that was my dad making up for what he did. Yeah, okay. I like that. Anyway, let's move on. We're talking about rats. Yeah, nice, nice. Wow, clean.

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So the Leafs have protected home ice through game one. They won, I think, 5, 4. And inexplicably didn't get me an empty-netter, which is fucked to hell. And actually, I guess, because it's not that big of a deal. Let's just talk about it right now. that is one of the I'm not kidding one of the great

empty net gaffes I've ever seen from Austin Matthews I'm not kidding like obviously there's compilations of videos of like that was a bad miss that is a preposterous mess bad miss from Austin Matthews an elite player like that dude can find the net anywhere and I'm like dude

that you almost lost the game or almost went to overtime because of it and you cost me money I legitimately think he should Venmo me money. Is that crazy? Yeah. It's $115. I only think that because when people do this in fantasy football, they're like,

Jamar, Chase, you blew a Venmo me this money. They always, they're like, shut the fuck up, dude. Yeah. I don't want to put in the ether that Austin Matthews could hit us. I don't give a fuck about your bet, bitch. Don't even, I don't want that to happen. Agree, but usually because they're like, Jamar, he didn't have three toddies and he's like, dude, I'm like playing football.

This was a simple, like, shoot it in. the open net. There's no goalie. And this would be a good insurance goal. Yeah. And it's $115. I'm not saying like you owe me a ton of money. I'm just saying like you own. Actually, he doesn't have to pay me the profit. Just pay me back my $100. Send me a beer. Literally send me $100. I'm going to be reaching out to him. So that's the final of the game. We're going to get into it. But Dan, if we both said without knowing what we were going to say, we both said Panthers in six, now having seen game one, If you could redo your prediction, what would you say? Cats and five.

He went the other way. He went the other way. Dude, I thought I had the spicy take because I was going to say... That... Sorry. I was going to say my butt. Sorry. I would keep it Panthers in six, and I would love it even more.

I would love my pick even more because if the Panthers had won this game, you're now flirting with cats in four, cats in five territory. So this actually, I think, really helped. my cats in six. Yeah. No. Which I still think it's going to be. All kidding aside, it was, I think I still think cats and six. That game finished 5'4, and we're going to get into a lot of interesting plays in that game.

But I think my biggest thing is, despite the 0 for 5 on the Piper, and that is something that's important to see. that was about as good of a game as the Leafs could ever hope to play. And I know that there'll be a ton of Leafs fans who are going to go, what? We weren't even that good. You scored three on Babrovsky in the first period. That is about as good as you could ever possibly hope to play.

And you had a great first period. Three on Bobovsky, 12 shots. Florida didn't do dick. Yeah. Like that was crazy. And you barely won the game. So I think I am a little bit like, you know what? I'm not, if I'm a Panthers player, if I'm a Panthers fan, I'm really not worried.

Now, as we keep saying, dude, I pick the Panthers in this, but again, I'm not shitting on the Leafs here. Yeah. You needed to win at home. You want it at home. You need to get the first goal and come out hot. You got the first two and came out hot. Like 30 seconds got a goal. Great, great performance from the Leafs, and I'm proud of you for it.

And if you're a Leafs fan, you're thrilled right now. Did it get a little leaky? Sure, but who cares? I think this Leafs team is definitely in a place where it's like, buddy, I'll do some naughty, freaky shit. Get freaking naughty to get wins. It doesn't matter how you win. Just win. That is all they need to care about.

So I don't think they should care either. But I think the bigger thing is, the fact of the matter is, the odds are still set at the Panthers being the favorites to win the series, and they're down 1-0. That should say something. And I think that they came out so sleepy, tired. Bob was terrible, but then locked it the fuck down, despite that. The break, Maddie Nyes, aka Maddie Ice, breakaway goal.

But yeah, I think Cats and Six is still very much my choice. Now, we'll see if at least win game two, I still think it's Cats and Six. I might have to go Cats and Seven then, but I would still legitimately beyond the Cats. I guess depending on how the game goes. But, dude, love this game from Toronto, man. Love it? Holy fuck. I'm so impressed by them.

I have a pitch that I'm going to get you later. But truly, like the start, riding the crowd, all of it, man. Willie Nealander going. Like he looks so disinterested sometimes, but like he is producing, you're going to need that. This is game, you know, two goals right off the bat. Nyes gets his fourth. Morgan Riley's scoring.

Yep, who hasn't even been good, but like he just scores in the playoffs. That's what I mean. He just like scores in the playoffs and you're like, oh my God. So yeah, tremendous. You were right, this game was way more important for Toronto. But they got it, dude. Like this team for the billionth time just feels different. we had joked, we'll see what the Barubi effect is

in what we were calling the bullies versus the pussies series. Yeah, right? Where it's like the Panthers are just going to come in here and goon you, not goon in a bad way, they're just going to come here and beat you up and make you earn it, make you feel a fucking playoff series. And the Leafs have notoriously been softer. Is Bruy going to change that? Nothing can be said after one game, but there was an incident

a classic bullies incident that has had a big ripple effect that we have to touch on all of it. But let's just talk about the event itself. Sam Bennett catches Stoli the goalie with an elbow. Stoli the goalie goes down, does not return.

When did that happen? I... End of second? I think so. I want to say. It's crazy this game just ended and I can't remember anything. Let me check.

Time on ice. Yeah, halfway through the second. Stolley played 30 minutes, 12 seconds. So let me say this, unless you're, you're running. Please. We're going to talk about all of this in depth, and we're going to say, first and foremost, we hope Stollars is okay. Yep. That is the most important thing here without a doubt.

Now, there have been a lot of tweets and a lot of reports. Stollars took a fucking missile from something. Sam Reinhart off the face in the first period. Early. Yeah, yeah. I saw that. Five minutes into the game, it knocked his mask off. And there are doctors online who are saying that when the puck knocked his mask off, 25 seconds after the hit, he did a shake. S-H-A-A-A-K-E, a spontaneous head shake after a kinematic event.

Okay. Which predicts? Yes, which predicts concussion 72% of the time. Okay. So there is a chance that. Stolars took that fucking cruise missile off the dome, and that gave him a concussion. And then he took another bit of contact to the head from Bennett, which made the concussion symptoms more severe, and then we believed to have seen him get sick on the bench and throw up.

Very scary. He left the game. There's reports that he left the game on a stretcher. We do not know that. I'm not going to, I don't know if that's confirmed, but there are reports of it. here is the thing about this play. And I went on the IG and I've actually stick taps in a big way to a lot of Toronto fans. We've had probably 50 plus Toronto fans coming to the DMs and be like, I actually kind of agree here. Yep. Sam Bennett is a grimy player. Yep.

Yeah. There's no doubt about it. Sam Bennett would be the first to admit it. And I understand that when you play against the Florida Panthers and you have guys doing shit like what he does and Chuck does, it's frustrating. Now, I am kind of here to say I'm getting a little sick and tired of fans genuinely crying about this team. I'm not a Panthers fan. Yeah, yeah. I'm on the Panthers bandwagon like I have been for the past couple years, I got back on.

But I'm not a Panthers fan. I didn't grow up a fan. I don't have diehard support for this team. So I'm not here blindly defending anything. But I am here to say, dude, it's part of the game. You heard Brad Marchant's comments last year, I believe it was when they lost in six to the Panthers when Bennett gave him the little donkey punch. Marshand, who was the victim of that, was the first, it's ironic that he's on the Panthers

now, was the first to be like, guys, we are trying to hurt each other out here. We're not trying to take our skates off and stab somebody like Happy Gilmore, but we are trying to hurt people. We are trying to win games. It's a physical game. It's part of the game. Everyone wants to say, the team that's playing my team is cheap and dirty and disgusting. Your favorite players do it too.

They cross-checked people in the back in the spleen. They slash, they gouge, they do this. Now, the Panthers know what they are. This is a part of their identity. I understand it's frustrating to play against. That doesn't mean every single play is the most vicious intent to injure thing of all time. So I am here to say, watching that replay, I didn't feel like I saw anything crazy. There's another angle that came out that shows his arm does appear to move a little bit,

maybe in a way that it shouldn't. but I always try to have a little bit of leeway in the, it's a fast game. There's so much going on. I would chalk this up to, I would have been fine with a two-minute interference call here. I don't think that there's intent to elbow him in the head, but I think it's a bit careless of Bennett. I think he's up in the goalie's face around his head and he makes some contact. But I don't think he throw, there are people who are saying, quote, he throws a nasty, dirty elbow into the back of his head. I really don't think he does that.

Dude, this is nothing. This is nothing, dude. I'm watching this, we've been on Loop a thousand times. I've watched it a thousand times. First of all, it's not even his elbow at all. At all. It's his forearm. No, it's like the back of his glove, dude.

Like, watch it right here. Literally, like, the back of his glove hits him. And you definitely see Stolar's go like this when the glove hits. Like, at first I thought he barely touches him at all. The glove side gets him. He gets the pass from Kachuk. He's coming across like this. He's almost like reaching to keep it.

And it hits him. is not the elbow at all. Literally after his glove hits him, his elbow tucks in and it slides by. I love the, like, he was already concussed take, because that would make a lot of sense here. Because I'm not at all saying, Dolores is flopping and whatever. My guess and listeners, I'm saying my guess, I think that's definitely the case. I think he was already concussed from the shot. I really do. This is nothing. I have no issue with this quote, but Barubi, elbow to the head, clearly, clear as day. And I'm like, of course, I get that. Yeah, you're the coach of the team.

You got to stand by your player. it wrong. So, of course, it's Bennett, but anybody losing their shit over this is just too caught up in the emotion because it's playoffs and I get it. And this is literally nothing. This is a nothing burger that I never want to talk about again, other than the fact that maybe they don't have Stolley moving forward, which I do want to talk about. Yes.

So I suppose where I'm at is, and like I said, I'm not defending either side, so I'm going to switch to the Toronto side. it's a shame that it's Bennett because he does have a history of shit like this. So it's really hard to defend it's a really it's really hard to confidently say he didn't do anything. There was zero intent there at all. So I can't say that. But I will say from the video, I think you are too emotional if you were going to say there's a clear elbow there. I just don't think there is. There's not at all. I really don't think there is. So if this leads to a fine or a suspension, I think that's a, I think that's a, I think that's a

bad call. I really do. If they want to throw a fine to just appease people, fine, whatever. I will be appalled if someone is suspended to this. Yeah, yeah. But I'd be fine with that. Because it just be like, now everyone shut up. Yep. I really don't think there is. And also, I do want to get this

out there. The thing that not enough people are talking about when they're losing their shit online, I'm not going to call them out, but a Maple Leafs fan who is incredibly blindly loyal and vocal, you could guess who it is. immediately when I posted that slid into our DMs and was like, brother, what planet are you on?

And I'm like, okay, you're going to have a logic conversation here. And those are the ones where I'm like, I can't talk to you. I refuse, frankly, to have a conversation with you if you're that emotional about it because you are clearly too emotional. I want to say this. People are conveniently forgetting

that these two people just won a Stanley Cup together last year and are good friends. I don't know that I am. am ready to think that Sam Bennett went, I'm going to elbow my buddy in the back of the head and give him a concussion. I know it's in game and emotions are high, but you know who's on the ice. So I just, again, I think it's a little greasy. Sam Bennett is in and around the goalie. He doesn't get pushed into him. He's probably too close. And I bet Sam Bennett in that moment was going, if I hit Stolley here, I hit Stolley here. But I don't think he throws an elbow at his head and

really praying that Stolley is okay. most important thing, as I said, but I'm not, I really am not sure I can say it felt like there was a clear, dirty, violent act that happened here. So yeah, I think we got to move on. Joe Wall comes in. Joe Wall presumed starter to start this season, right? Got more games than Stolley. Put up a 909-273, very solid. And then Stolley put up a 926214 in the regular the season. So they went with Stoli and I give them credit for going with Stoli, who had the better season and I give them credit for not doing the tandem thing at all. This is one of those situations where you go, thank God, we had a two-headed monster. And now I get to just slot Joe Wall in here,

who was great in the playoffs last year, I would add. Immediately gets lit up. And I was like, oh, oh, dude. Not great. Tough game to come in to you. It's awful, dude. But that could be a huge factor. They, of course, say they have confidence in Joe Wall. I have confidence in wall. But if the series turns here, because he's just not playing as well as Stoli, it's tricky to because I would have said

the Panthers were going to beat you with Stoley and net, but like Stollie was on the Panthers. He knows how a lot of the guys shoot. He sees him in practice all the time, a little bit of a mental edge. Who knows? And now you just lose that. And if the Leafs don't get him back, and if they lose, they will always understandably go that this is bullshit.

Bennett hit our goalie, we lost him, and then we lost the series. and I wish it wouldn't go that way. That sucks. A couple things before we close this game out. Maddie Nyes, an absolutely putrid backhand tuck job on the breakaway to regain the two-goal cushion, which they needed badly because Bennett had eventually scored with the goal he pulled. Incredible snipe.

He's the man. Dude, Maddie Nise is a fucking beautician. Oh, so good. He's so fun to watch. And he don't give a damn about. Nothing. Dude, you're right. He doesn't even know he's on the Leafs.

I don't think he knows he's on the Leafs. And I will say, you said an absolutely disgusting play. And also an absolutely preposterous no-call that led to that goal. That led directly to that goal. And how did he even get on that breakaway? Like, he's a dog. But, like, that was like the worst string of things of all time. That play was nutty.

Oh, my God. A high-flying, technically two-on-one. But Rynard closing on the Far Side Post, comes across and blatantly gets tripped by Maddie Nyes, goes careening into the boards, no call, puck gets wrapped around, Schmidt with the softest pinch you will ever get horrible. How do you not have that punch? Horrible pinch. Somehow gets by him. His D-partner is making a change. Changing. And now Nise gets a breakaway. Nise gets up from that trip, gets down, gets that breakaway, and scores the backbreaker. That was a brutal swing. And it is just so tough that we are

never want to complain about calls or reffing because it's just every fan base does it, you could do it until you're blue in the face. But the Leafs having five power plays in that game and two in the third period and then you not giving that one to the Panthers was wild. Oh yeah. Wild because

it literally led directly to the... A couple crazy kills there. I forgot about that. That was nuts. I am officially dubbing the Leafs, the ERT Leafs this year. This will be calling them for the rest of the playoffs because they are the emergency response team in ways that I've never seen because they're still, you can't un-leaf yourself

in one season, right? You can't be the Leafs and then instantly un-leaf, but they can't respond to the leafiness. So they take these leads and then they blow it and I'm like, oh shit, you're the Leafs. But then they go, we are the emergency response team this year. And they respond, like I haven't seen them doing in decades. So, the ERT Leafs, dude, are a different beast. And I'm excited to see if they can keep it up. 100%. My last thing on this series is we were talking about it earlier, how this is shaping up.

This series is like the bully on the playground messing with the pretty boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said bully's pussies, but that was bad. Bully, bully, pretty boy. But you got Austin and Willie and Mitch with their earrings and their Drew outfits and their baggy pants and their fashion shows, which I love. Oh my God, I love. And then you've got these Florida boys who are just Timberlins, chirping the shit out of them,

slashing them, bullying them, cross-checking them. I don't know if you've seen the clip, but at the end of the game there, Matthew Kachuk is just following Mitch Marner around, trying to slash hook and chop him. And Marner's literally jumping out of the way. It's like you have bullies on the playground chasing them around, and it will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Either we're going to have a David versus Goliath situation here and the Leafs. And I will say in that clip, Marner looks like he's kind of goading him.

He's like, go for it, dude. We're winning. And that works when you're winning, right? So we'll see if next couple of games the Panthers get a lead and if the Leafs crumble a bit. But big game, dude, like we said, every game is must win for the Leafs here. Every single game. And they won that one. And that's huge.

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Do you have your answer? Yes. Okay. Hold on. I knew you didn't. I fucking knew it. Yes. Three, two, one.

Caps and seven. I couldn't decide. I was like right there, dude. Me neither, dude. There is, this is hard for me too. Yeah. Again, our picks do not mean who we are rooting for. or if we're rooting for anyone.

I literally went caps in seven because of LT. Dude, yeah. That is genuinely the only swing I have here. I think these two teams are so good. I think they're so fun. And I want to get into that because, Keynes, I think you're more fun than you're showing. And we need to talk about that.

But I think they're both really fun. They've got great players. I think Aho, I think Aho just had a kid. Oh, fuck, dude. I didn't know that. I think that's true. Jesus Christ. I'm pretty sure that's true. Look that up. I'm pretty sure Ajo just had a kid. We've got a little fishy, dude. A little guppy. Is that what baby fish are called? Minnows. Oh my God. Dude. Like he just had a kid. I think it was today or yesterday. Seven hours ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a little minnow. And now he's got a little minnow. And now he's got to be there and the timing worked out. Mom and Baby are both happy and healthy. She's an amazing job. I'm really proud of her. It's Kain's in four. That's what he said. He said, wouldn't it be sick. First baby. It was unreal. I said Monday. I said, I got to be there. I was happy and baby are both happy and healthy. She's an amazing job. I'm really proud of her. It's Kains and four. That's what he said. He said. He said. It's Keynes in four.

Yeah. That is guess. That's what the kid's name is. Cains in four. Cains in four. It's got to be Minno, dude. Meno Aho. What a name.

Minow, dude. This is fucking crazy. So we got a little minnow. We got a little minnow in the fish tank. Minnow's a great name, dude. Minno's a great name for a girl. We got to get a message him. I know.

So I love the, I think this is going to be such a fun series. He's going to put the baby in the cup, dude. Yeah. It's going to bathe them. They're going to baptize. Because he's going to bathe this girl. baptized minnow in the cup this is fucking bullshit dude i didn't even know this

it only came down to goley for me dan well i'll wrinkle your brain i wrinkle it brother grab it l t is why i even said seven like i agree with you but i was i was even heavier on the canes if if not for l t wow um and and freddie's a huge factor though freddie iceberg he was fresh as lettuce and then and then they they cut him they cut him into a wedge and then and the drizzled blue cheese all over him, dude. And I said, keep him in the fridge. Keep him in the crisper. That's where I wanted him.

Okay, and now you've got bacon bits all up in his fucking mask. He can't see anything. So that's rattling to me. And if he doesn't play, then I reserve the right to change my pick. You do. If Freddie Iceberg is in the net and is still fresh, which I think he actually is, then I think the canes have a tiny bit more firepower than the caps. and the LT advantage,

like the LT advantage is this swings this way and the Cain's little firepower advantage swings this way. And I would even argue, dude, like, even though they never do it, I still think that's experience. Like, they, Thomas Edison came up with a billion ways to not invent a light bulb, you know? Like they've come up,

the Cains have invented a thousand ways to not make the cup. Buddy. So. The Cains have figured out about every way to not make it. Yeah. So this is the way. Process of elimination, we might be on the way. I will say this.

This series is hilarious to me because it is the nobody believes in us bowl. The nobody believes bowl. Which team do people believe in less more? The canes are the kings of this. Like, oh, everybody's hating on us. No one believes in the canes. It's us against everybody. And then the caps are getting picked to lose to that team,

to the team that no one believes in, is being picked to beat the caps. And they're like, no one believes in us, dude. And this caps team just almost won the president's trophy. They're the first in the Met. In the East. In the East, yeah. And they're the only other team that won in five games or less.

And you stink. And people are like, they suck. Cains in five. Dude, it's the, nobody believes on us, bowl. Nobody, nobody believes in you. Nobody believes in you. I think it's like a nobody believes. No, what did I want?

Oh, the Journey, the Journey Cup. Don't stop believing, dude. Because no one believes in them. This is the Journey Cup. It's ridiculous. So here's what I was talking about. We got these two teams, right? I think there's a couple things here.

I want to get into the second one, which is my message to the Keynes. But the first one is we had the Caps get past the Habs in five. And then the Cains get past the Devils in five. So sorry, there were three teams in five. Who else? Florida. Oh, yeah.

Three teams in five. That's crazy. No offense to the Devils. I think the Habs were straight up a tougher customer than the Devils. I think so, too. I think the Habs were a little... But I think we're being harsh on the Devils.

They played some hard games. They did, and they almost won that one. Yeah, they almost won a couple games. So maybe I'm being harsh. But this is going to be a great series. Now, when I look at these two teams, I look at their media presence, I look at their vibes this year.

This is a good point. Caps. Right? Bands a maker dance. Bands a maker dance. Only chickie clapping. Bands a make her dance. That's fun.

Ryan Leonard, yellow laces. That's fun. That's fun as hell. Ovi, chasing down Wano, breaking the record. That's fun. Ovi, breaking his leg, still chasing down Wano, breaking the record. That hurts, but fun. We also got Osh, not playing, but with the team, hanging, being the boy.

Playing bingo. That's fun. That's fun as hell. We've got LT showing up new team signs of contract lights out goaltender

That's fun We've got PL New team No one knows if he's going to be good or not No one knows if he's going to find his game He looks amazing That's fun

We've got Dylan Strom Strom the second coming of Nick Baxter Reawakening Ovi That's fun Protas Seven feet tall Apparently he's a giant That's fun

This team has a lot of fun vibes. Yeah. Osh telling us and everybody, the locker room is as tight as it was, if not tighter than the cup year. Wow. This Kane's team, I know,

we know, for a fact. They got fun boys on that team. This is what I was going to say, dude. Maybe the funnest guy in the leak. Yeah. Shout out Jarvie. But the nonsense of the Rantanin'n trade put a stink on that team.

Put a stink in the city of Raleigh. And it's all people we're talking about. Yep. And I'm here to say, you guys are more fun than people know, and it is your responsibility. Fans, team, Jarvie, Slavo, I'm looking at you. Social media admin.

You're the most ridiculous, obnoxious person on the internet. Show how fun this team is because the Keynes, everyone's going, oh, the Keynes Devil Series. Boring. Boring! don't let that be the narrative. You've got to pump up the fun vibes because we know they're there.

So that is your responsibility and your duty as well as winning this series, Keynes. Show up. You're not going to win if you don't pump up the fun vibes. Right now you're losing the fun battle. And do that, because I said, LT advantage, firepower advantage, that brings you level.

Last factor, fun. You're currently losing. So chill out. Chill out. that's going to be a good series. It's weird, Dan. It's like my least... Fate.

Yeah, I think it's like my least favorite series to watch. I'm looking at these other ones. I'm like, I'm so excited about this Florida-Torna series. I'm so excited about Vegas Oilers. And I'm pretty excited about JetStars, especially now that I'm a rocket man.

So I'm kind of like caps, Cains, okay. I mean, once you're at this level, they're all fun, but I'm like, whatever, if you made me rank them. If you made me rank them, it'd be fourth. And I think most hockey fans say that, if you're neutral still in the playoffs.

But I think it's going to be possibly the most competitive series. Tight games. Tight games up and down. Okay, next series is Jets Stars. I'm a newly appointed Rocket Man, but man, I love this Stars team. Do I have my prediction? Yes, I do.

Ready? Yep. Okay. Actually, you know what? No, we're going to keep doing it. I remember once someone in the DMs asked us to stop saying our picks at the exact same time because they can't hear what we say. And I wonder if we should do that. I think, okay, that's interesting. You go first, I'll go right after you. Okay, ready? Yes. Three, two, one, stars and six. Stars and six. I didn't like how that went That went That was gross I hate that

But now we know what we've been All right We're both on the stars and six It kills me to say it Because if this Jets team wins I'll be fucking So happy for them And me

I'll be happy for me But dude Dallas is very good It's fucked dude Because the Jets did this all year I said this all year Like the Jets aren't that good And the stars

And the Avs are going to catch them And be better than them and then they just never did. So right now it's like fucking bananas to be like, and the stars are better all of a sudden. But it felt like the stars played a tougher team in the first round and had a ton of adversity and rose up to it. And the Jets played a team.

They were much better than. And nearly shit it. And I don't know that you can ride that. I know. With the current shakiness of Helley, we said maybe in the live, we said maybe he unlocked something in overtime. And if he did, it's a whole new conversation.

But right now, that's a huge question mark. I have, I feel like we're naming all of these series different cups. Yep. We've got the, we've got the Bullies and the Pretty Boys Cup. We've got the Nobody Believes in this cup, the Journey Cup. This is my, I think I am declaring this my Sophie's Choice Cup. Oh, okay. I have, um...

As we have gone through this season, we've gone through growing relationship with fan bases, with teams with players. I have realized that I just, I love these two teams so much. Okay? I love everything about them. Dude, yeah. The journey I went on on Twitter with Stars fans this year, they're so cool. I love Stars fans.

I got to get down to the airplane hangar. Yeah, I know. And then, dude, us acknowledging, as we said on the live this morning. I almost said yesterday. Yeah. if there is a Canadian, if there is a smaller market Canadian team that the world is going to rally around

and what world is it not the Jets? And dude, their fans, how happy they were last night. Yeah, dude. How happy they've been. The Beer League video. The Beer League video.

I think it's on BR Open Ice if you haven't seen it. We got to talk about the Beer League video. There is a late night Sunday beer league game going on in Winnipeg, and there is a group of, a boy's on the bench huddled around a phone watching this game. The goal goes in, they go berserk, and the ref comes over going berserk. Their teammates. He's also watching it, by the way. Oh yeah, the ref's on the ice with his phone. That's how much this team meets to people in the peg. Could I start to think about that really quickly? Please. The fact that that game,

dude, the Jets got within one with the goal with the goal we pulled, right? It was 3-1 and they scored with like two minutes left. Yeah. The fact that that entire beer beer league didn't go let's just watch the rest of this yeah like they kept playing you know it was like dude boys it is two minutes left everybody just stopped even run the time i don't care yeah like everybody just watched the fact that there were 10 guys at there who missed that goal because they were playing breaks my heart that was insane incredible uh we have dubbed them winterfell they play up at the wall everything about him i love just like dallas so i i'm picking dallas because I think Hayskinnan and Robertson

are closer to coming back than Shifley and Morrissey. I think given current form, I like Otter more than I like Hellie. But this series is going to kill me. It's going to kill me because one of these teams is going to lose, and I don't want that to happen. I think, I mean, no one wants to lose at this. No one wants to lose ever.

The Jets fans will find peace. If they lose and they got at least got to this far, they'll find some peace. The Stars fans, if they lose here again, it will be a nightmare. This, Dan, I'll raise you, bro. For me, this one is the Milan Cup because Connor Hellebuck, dude, he plays Binner in four nations, loses in the gold medal game.

Plays great. Then wakes up in the first round of the playoffs, it's Binner again. Well, don't forget, plays Binner in Montreal in the first matchup between them. Wins. Then the final, loses. Dude, I almost wish that happened in reverse because I would have the road thing. You know, like he can only win on the road. But actually he's playing in Canada.

Like he plays in a Canadian team. True. So that actually was a home game for him. And Binner plays on an American team. So you see what I'm saying here? I get it. So now Halebuck was on the road and he lost. So now Halebuck, he can't escape Binner.

And then he beats him in the playoffs. Boom, fuck you. Game 7. Gotcha. Even though that wasn't really. Binner's fault in Helluck didn't play that well. But you know what I'm saying? Boom, gotcha. Play great in O.T. Then moves on to the next time of the playoffs. Who does he get?

Four nations. His own backup. A2, Brutee. dude, the traitor in the midst. He's playing otter. And I'm telling you, dude, we need to declare this. The Milan Cup, the winner of this series gets the start in the Winter Olympics. Nuts on the table.

Put your chips down. Money where your mouth is. Winner of this series is starting in the Olympics. I need stakes, dude. You want to get to the third round? You think that's stakes? I'm talking gold medals, dude. I'm talking medals.

That's what I need on the line here. This is the Milan Cup Olympics. How do you feel about that? I love it. And I don't frankly see how you could argue against it. Who would disagree with that? If they both went to Center Rice and said, dude, winter starts in the Olympics.

I think they would agree to this. I think they would handshake on this. Whoever wins this series is the starter at the Olympics. Dude, also, I thought for a second that we were dealing with a voodoo doll situation where it was like, ooh, my best goal score is hurt on Dallas. and then also our best defense was hurt. And then that was happening to the Jets. I was like, oh, shit, Dallas is a Jets voodoo doll.

I didn't realize that. But it wasn't happening as quickly that to make voodoo doll sense. I was looking at Voodoo doll lore, and it wasn't really happening there. So I was like, okay, maybe that's not a voodoo doll. And then, Dan, I think I realized that the Jets are literally just men of honor and are intentionally getting injured to level the playing field. They don't want the bullshit that all the narrative in the Colorado series was who's back and who's heard and what's going on. The Jets went like this.

Okay, let me see your champion. And Dallas said, here are our champions. Our team's on the floor. And the Jets said, I can't help but notice you're missing two of your top three guys. We will do the same. And let's play fair because we're Canadian. And if you can't respect that, dude, if you can't respect that, then I can't respect to you. Because the Jets are out here intentionally hurting themselves.

in the playoffs just to play an even game against the Dallas stars. Who could argue with that? That's fucking, that's respect. I mean, I'm into it, dude. Olympics on the line. Olympics are on the line. I don't think I can, I don't think I'm prepared for the emotional roller coaster that this series is going to be for me.

And I kind of feel like you're in the same boat. It's going to suck. I just became a rocket man. Like, I don't want to be. Yeah, you are a rocket man. I don't want to be not a rocket man this quickly. I've been playing the song on repeat today. Is it a little rattling to you that there's maybe

and even more of an argument that Stars fans are Rocket Men because they're up in the Stars. Oh my God. I guess maybe I could... You could use that to your benefit. Yeah, yeah. You're playing both sides.

I get both. Could work. I get both. Maybe they make one team and move on. Dude, what... How about that? What if you could go? Let's just not play.

Coinflit. we're going to wear the jerseys of whoever the coin flip wins, but we're going to combine our best players of both teams and move on. Boom. That would be interesting. Yeah, I'm like, I don't even know how I feel about that series starting. I don't even want to watch. Last series, the Vegas Golden Knights versus the Edmonton Oilers.

Okay, I think I'm ready for this one too. Yeah, I am. This is about to be crazy, dude. It's about to be crazy. Okay. You ready? You can do it first. Do you want to say it the same time?

I think we do the same time. I didn't like how that worked. Maybe we said him slower. Like I think I'm like, stars and six. And it's just like such a thing. And then yours is a, and everyone's like, I didn't hear what you guys said. But if I went like this, stars in six,

while you were saying you were slower. I think we'd say it's same time. I know I'm saying when you say it, say it's slower. Okay. And I think it'll be easier to hear. Ready? Three, two, one. Vegas and five.

Do you hear that shit, dude? Do you hear that shit? I love it. Watch me double down on the fucking Knights pick, dude. I took the Knights to sweep the wild. They lose games two and three. People call me insane. Everyone says nice pick.

Everyone says Vegas in four. CP's a dummy. Someone said that. Someone said, what a dummy. And I was like this. Whatever, dude. Vegas is winning in six because they're way better. and sorry I didn't count on them shitting on themselves and turning the puck over 50 times in games 2 and 3.

They should have swept and they're going to win in 6 now. And then they did because that's the team they are. And then Jack woke up. And then Stoner woke up. And then Hill's playing good. Okay. And then the Edmonton Oilers, quite frankly, should have been swept by the Los Angeles Kings. Quite frankly.

And you said the series is going to change when they get to Rogers, which obviously it did. They didn't lose again. But they didn't play. better. Like when they got there and I was like, oh yeah, you're right. They're probably going to do the blues thing and win 7-1 at home. And Kemper's going to get pulled. None of that happened. They got to Rogers and the Kings were just beating them again in both of those games. You want to know, you want a little refresher. You want a little news flash action news item. You want to know who was better than the Kings all year and the Oilers? The Vegas Golden Knights.

playing them all the time in their division. You've been big on that. Dude, they are the best team in the Pacific. They are designed, engineered for this moment, dude, in this series, in these playoffs to make it to the cup. And I think they dicked around in the first round and nearly got clapped, nearly got clipped. We were talking to the boys.

We said this. They were like, dude, actually, that series is way harder than we thought. There's no going into this series going like this. This series won't be that hard. everyone is locked in. They're ready to go. We're dialed in. Let's play some hockey. I'm playing against the two most dangerous men on Earth. The two most dangerous men on skates. You've got Jack Eichel, though, and you've got that defense. You played this team in the place before. You've seen it. You've seen them at their most dangerous. This isn't anything new. And I just think the time for

fuckery is over. And they're like, I'm ready to go. And we're not going to chase this here. I don't want to get behind. I'm not sure where the loss comes. Because knowing, this Vegas team, they could literally lose game one at home and then just rip off the fucking reverse. It's not a reverse sweep. You know what I'm saying? Yep. I'm ready to get burned again, dude. I'm ready to go, wow, I doubled down on my Vegas dominance and now I'm in like a seven-game bloodbath where they have to beat McDavid and dry-sidal with their season on the line. But I think this team is that good.

I love everything you just said. I love the confidence and I love the intensity. I would be lying if I said that I wasn't getting spooked. Yeah, you're scared. You're a little terrified boy. You go to bed. You go to bed and Connor and Leon are literally skating circles. Lapsed, dude. Literally, I don't mean like in your head.

I mean around, like literally little, little guys. I am a cartoon with a concussion. Yeah, little guys are literally skating around your head. They are, I just feel like. I'm going to double down. That King's team is better than this Oilers team. Yes, they are. Keep going.

Keep going. And this Vegas team is better than this. In mathematics, we call that transitive property. By the transit of property, the Vegas Golden Knights are better than the Oilers. They are better than the Oilers. Now, by that logic, the Vegas Golden Knights should win. But how many times in the last two years have I seen a team that should absolutely be? absolutely beat this Oilers team, and then they don't. Many times.

Many times. I've got four of them in the last two years. Yeah, yeah. And then the other one was they were down 3-0 and took it to game seven. Dude, I was just about to say, the thing that scares me about my pick is I don't think you can beat a Conner-McDavid team in five. Like, I literally don't think it's possible. I wonder if he's ever lost in five. Actually, he gets swept by the F, so obviously you can. But like this version of them, like you just said, they were down three-o. Like that was Shatch, should have been over. And they took that to seven. So it's very tough to get these two out in five games. Dude, I think my big thing, and a lot of the Kings guys said this, losing to that team because of depth scoring is utterly unforgivable. Like that is not acceptable. Not where you can

lose. But the fact that the Oilers did have these guys going and getting goals past the goalie, you don't really even have Connor and Leon going that hard yet. I just think it's this fucking team somehow sneaks by against better teams. And I am done betting against them. And again, I can respect that.

I'm scared. I'm a scared boy. You're terrified. And again, I'm not rooting here or there. I'm just like trying to think logically. And to me, just the way this. team is the way they figure it out even when Connor and Leon aren't leading the charge they just somehow grease by and everyone's like what the fuck i i'm just i'm done i'd rather i'd rather go oh i was wrong their luck ran out and who knows maybe i just mushed you oilers sorry yeah but

i just i i i cannot in good conscious bet against them again so i'm like fucking christ dude these boogey men are just in my fucking dome and i just think they're going to to get in other teams domes. So here we are. Dude, I just think it's the, you're not saying anything wrong. I just think that the whole Eichael McDavid narrative is just that. It's a made-up narrative that literally neither of them care about. You know, like I don't think Jack is waking up going, I should have gone first over Connor McDavid. But I do know that you get fired up to play him. Everybody does. Everybody gets fired up to play McDavid, but certainly the dude who went right behind him. The dude who knocked him out of the playoffs two years ago on his way to his mug.

Yeah. Right? So if you can get that twice, like that, that feels good. You know, if you go, oh, yeah, yeah, we actually, we actually clip the oil list two times on my way to my second cup. And he's having the best year of his fucking life, dude. And the fucking, it dries in a heart finalist, and there's a big crowd that's like, he's got to win it, which is so insane to me. But those guys will always have incredible years, but they're not having the best. years of their life. And this Vegas team, dude, is just the, we've said it a bunch. It's like, this is the healthiest version I ever see them. Like, usually they're so banged up and

everything's fucked and someone's heard and they're in their third string goalie. I'm like, no, this is actually the team that they brought here to do this. And it's why they're the one seed. And this oil team is the team they brought here too. I just didn't think they brought a very good team. I don't think they brought a cup team. A cup team. A cup team. You're relying heavy on those guys. In Vegas, I do think, has maybe some of the layers of defense to slow those guys down. But I am so juiced for this one. Like, obviously, I just said Vegas in five.

And I believe in Vegas big time. But if this, the hockey gods, feed me a seven-game barn burner in this. Oh, my God, dude. Get the popcorn out. Get the rib-eye, dude. Nice little marinade on the rib-eye. Maybe some air-fried sweet potatoes. Some pan-seared broccoli.

This is a little peppercorn sauce, some wine, but I don't even like red. So I'm talking like a chilled rosé game seven. McDavid Eichol. I'll take that all day, dude. I do love the McDavid Eichol narrative. It's awesome, dude. The one, two. I think there might be need to be another bet, damn.

The Brady Manning. They might need to be. Because, dude, that's what it turns into, by the way. Yeah. Like, if Iicle wins this series and then wins the cup, it starts to turn into, like, enjoy all your regular season awards. I don't care. I like that, but I just win championships. And again, no one is being like, Ikel's better than McDavid.

But I am saying Ikel owns McDavid. You motherfucker, dude. You just lost everyone. You just lost everyone. But no, that's going to be a sick one, dude. I'm really excited. And also, by the way, it was pretty tight last time. Like, it was Vegas and Six, but it went, I wrote it down.

It was Vegas, Edmonton, Vegas, Edmonton, and then Vegas, Vegas, and they cinched it. But, you know, this wasn't like, oh, it went 3-1, and it was a comfortable win. Like that was a bloodbath series. So even if, even if I'm right in its five, I guarantee you these are fucking tilts every one of them. And I, yeah, and that's fucking so dope. Yeah. And like I, I said it.

I think Vegas is better. And I think if Vegas loses the series, they're going to go, we are fucking assholes, just like the Kings. Like we lost to a worst team. They have maybe two better players, certainly.

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What was the first one? Cains. Oh, Caps in seven, Cains in seven. Dallas in six, Dallas and six. Vegas in five. How are you? Edmonton in seven. And we, on the live earlier, we both picked Cats in six.

I think you just said that. I can't remember. So we had the draft lottery. Now, we've had a lot of people talking about rigged lotteries in the NHL in recent years. A lot of people saying that. Yep. So, Bettman and our guy, Steve Mayer, at the NHL, said, fucking do it live. Fuck it.

We'll do it live. So they did the draft lottery live. We saw the balls getting blown up. What? Yeah. It just feels like there's a euphemism. Yeah. And wouldn't you know it, the New York Islanders, seemingly out of nowhere.

Fiting for a playoff spot. Fighting for a playoff spot. The Islanders get the first overall pick. And it conveniently comes off the heels of the news of possibly the 26 NHL All-Star game not happening at UBS Arena because of a new international event. Hmm. How could you pay someone back for such a thing? Hmm.

Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Just saying, hmm, so the Islanders get the first overall pick, the Sharkies get the second, Utah jumps to fall. Also, massive jump. I think it was all chalk last year. Massive jump. Yeah, I think so. That was like two huge swings. Massive jumps. Bees get plugged, obviously. I was filming a video in case something sick happened, and it kind of wasn't. Actually, that was pretty wild, but it was Islanders, but I was filming something, and then it cut to all the G-Ebs and I just saw Dawn sitting there. And I was like, don't even give it to him, dude.

I don't even want to know how this is going to get blown. Fucking seriously. Dude. Can you read us the results? Read us the top 10. Yeah, I sure can. I sure can. Because I want to think about when you look at odds, I'll get up as you do that.

Hold on. As you do that, I want to get up the, we'll get the standings here. And we'll see who. kind of seemingly got the got jobbed the most first pick new york islanders second pick san jose sharks third pick chicago black ox fourth pick utah hockey club fifth pick nashville predators sixth pick Philadelphia Flyers 7th pick Boston Bruins

8th pick Seattle Crackin 9th pick Buffalo Sabers 10th pick Anaheim Ducks That's good It feels like

Where were the Flyers again? Six Yeah The Flyers and Bruins Got a raw deal here They both dropped like two Right? Yeah

Raw deal here And Preds maybe And oh the Preds were third Yeah And what did they end up with Five But like three to five

almost feels worse. That's a huge bummer. That's a huge bummer. I think there's realistically probably only two guys in this draft that could play right away. And I'm not even sure that they will. But a couple teams are bummed here, for sure. But the Islanders to jump from where they were to the one feels insane. Absolutely incredible, Dan.

Insane. I'm glad some action happened. I do want to talk about the production really quickly, because for the first time ever, it was like, we're doing this live. Usually they do what we saw live. Or excuse me, sorry, usually they do what we saw tonight behind closed doors, get the answer,

and then they reveal it to us live. They're just like, and then the next pick. They already know the answers, and they're just revealing it to us, which is why I like the TV glitches sometimes and everybody's like, you rigged that. So this time they were like, fuck it, we'll show it to you. Actually, it was our boy, Steve Mayer,

who runs a ton of NHL operation stuff, content king. He was like, this is a super. dramatic thing that we have in our sport. Let's fucking show it to them. I don't know about you, dude, but I was like, it's to me, I just thought there was weight to, like, if you have a better chance than me, you have 10 ping pong balls in there and I have one. It's like the Hunger Games. It's like the Hunger Games lottery. So then they just go like this with the 15th pick and they pull one out or with the first pick and then they pull one out and it's probably you because you have 10 balls. Yeah. And then they go with the second pick. But instead they're like, actually, we

We pull fucking random ass balls with random numbers. And if you can see the code in there, then that's who this team's. And I was like, what's going on? I said on Twitter, I feel like I work in macro data refinement, trying to fucking analyze these numbers. Literally. I was like, what is happening right now, dude? Here's a fucking idea. Make them fucking Easter eggs with the team's logo inside and literally just have it pop up and crack it open and go Bruins.

Yeah. Because like, it's mental to me that we can't, we can't. I love the idea of doing it live. But there's like these three fucking guys here, they're like, Hey, you turn your background. Hey, hey, you close your eyes. This guy's got his fucking hand over his eyes, put touching buttons.

And he's going like this, pointing at the countdown that the whole fucking world can see. It's the biggest board I've ever seen. And he goes, and time. And I'm like, I knew that. There fucking clocks up there. Also, how could you see that with your eyes closed? And then the dudes writing it down.

They got to make it. It was just like such an ordeal. That I was like, I feel like this could be visually cooler than it currently is. That was my problem. It was just so fucking lame looking. And then the delays, dude, like, Bucci's tossing it to Wixie, and Wixie's like, thanks, Booch, like, are we ready?

What's going on here? And then the fucking bubbles go, like, I think it was when Utah jumped, it was like the second one. Yeah. Booch was like, wow! And everyone's sitting there going, we don't know what happened. Like, what the fuck is, what's the result? And then the guy goes, with the fourth pick, and you're like, what? And it's because you can only jump 10.

And they were 14, so they jumped to four, which slotted the sharks in it, too. But you're like, did you just say fourth pick? I thought we were drawing for the second pick. So we got a few kinks to work out, but I do think I love the idea. I love the idea of doing it live. Let's just dumb it down. I think it's almost too smart, Dan. That's the answer.

It's too smart right now. There's all this crazy math going on. And I'm like, dude, I need a fucking balloon to pop gender reveal shit and little baby sharks come out. And I go, hooray, dude. Correct. That's amazing. For those wondering, Matthew Schaefer is still the projected one will be like a top, top

pair, D man. and the islanders, I think they would welcome that big time. They're in a rebuild, and that would be really exciting. He does everything, dude. He does P.K., power play, can do everything. He actually had a bad collarbone break at World Junior. But I would be at this stage, things can change, by the way, as we get closer. But at this stage, I'd be shocked if his name isn't called first in L.A.

I know you're not, dude, but I'm still high on Higgins. He looked like he's the BC kid for those wondering. He slowed down towards the end of that season. Like he still put up good numbers, but it just like, he looked, like, weak is so aggressive in the wrong word, but I was like, you need to get bigger and stronger. But the good news is he will. Like he possesses all the hard stuff to possess. He just has to get a little bit bigger and stronger.

And then when you get on an NHL team and that training and that nutrition, you will. That's why I'm still high on him because I'm like, every issue he had in college, I feel like in three years, people go, when he's like fucking 18, when he's 22 or whatever the fuck, when he's 24, people might be like, damn, how did he not go higher if he slips to like four or five? And I'm like, yeah, I agree. I think that was a big miss. And then Frondell and Mesa are the other ones that look like they might go high. Yeah.

But it'll be an exciting draft. It's not the deepest draft we've seen in a while. For sure not. But I think those top three picks are interesting. And listen, I won't lie. I'm very excited about the idea of Hagan's joining Mac and Wack and. Will in San Jose. Dude, did they go two?

Sharks got two? Yeah. Wow, that would actually be fucking sick. If we get the BC BU boys just growing even further there. Like, don't forget Graff from Kuinipiac's there. Yeah. This could be fun shit. That's really cool.

Actually, I didn't even think about that. So if you're an Islanders fan, you're pumped up right now. If you're a Sharks fan, the future just continues to get brighter and brighter. Hell yeah. If you're a beast fan, go fuck your mother. Put a bullet in your head and make sure I'm standing behind you. Let's pop into a beer league hotline. wags? What do we got? This one is honestly, might be the craziest one I've ever seen.

A goalie on my team was getting new gear, so he sold some of his old gear on sideline swap. The other night, he told us a guy with the username Hawk Tua spelled H-O-C-K, asked him if he had any old jock straps for sale. Our buddy did and sold it to this guy. Then Hocktua asked him if he could buy the jockstrap of our goalie that he's currently using under the condition that our goalie doesn't wash it. Our buddy said for $200, it's a deal, and the guy bought it. Do we need to call the authorities? Dude, this.

That's actually insane. You weren't lying. That got weirder and weird. I won't lie. He had me at Hawk toa. Hawk toa is special. It's so special for a couple of reasons, Chris. It's like you're A, hockey.

Yeah. But you're B, you're hawking stuff. You're hawking stuff online. You're secondhand traded. Very good. I love this guy. I will add, by the way, because sometimes I can't fit everything in the message. Can I disclaimer real quick?

We do not kink shame on this podcast. We do not kink shame at all, Dan. We do not. Nor would I ever. I have a man who I'm not going to dox him, but there is a man on Instagram who religiously, religiously DMs me asking to pay me for my used socks. I've not done it yet. Do it.

But this message is making me think there might be some cold hard cash in this business. I didn't include this in the message because sometimes there's no room, but this on sideline swap, apparently you can see when users have joined and how many transactions they have. And this Hoctua fella

has only been on sideline swap for a couple months and has like over 50 transactions. Of which you've got to assume are mostly this. I thought you were going to say all and I was like well I don't know but honestly it might be all I don't think he's like also grabbing like a baseball mitt for his son yeah and then some dudes used beer league jock so he bought an old jock like an old one that's like I haven't used that in years for for market value like maybe legitimately and this at this point you're thinking

why are you even listed wait did this guy yeah he asked for a jock he's like do you have I'm putting together some gear do you have an old joe to. So maybe in that moment you go, sure. Do you want that? So he buys it for like, you know, 10 bucks. Yeah. And then he goes, what about the one you have on right now? And then he goes, don't wash it. Because he goes, I got a game tonight. And he goes, even better, dude. Sweat, sweat that out and then sell it to me. Why did he want the goalie specifically? Because they're huge, dude. They've got the huge jock. You've seen a goalie

fucking cup thing? Yeah, there's more, there's more material getting soaked in nuts sweat. You want to get your fucking, dude, you have. Get your face in there, bro? He wears that. You get mine, it's a clown nose. You get my cup. It's right here, dude, but the goalie cup. Now you're laughing.

Like a Texas chainsaw mask or mask. It's fully covering his face. He's suffocating in that nuts way. Dude, the, what, how much does a goalie jock cost? Like a new one? Good question. Jock strap. My question is, did our, did our, did our, 60 bucks?

Dan, you could be swinging these. You could get these. Dude, you should get the 200. and then use a new one, use it, and then sell it to him the next day. Look, I think every week you should sell him a new one for $200. You don't think Hawk to his budgets eventually running out because my next question was going to be, is there a chance our boy left some money on the table here? There is, there is.

If you're buying weird shit like this, and let's get even more specific here, pal, we're talking hockey goalie jock straps. There is not a big market for this. So you found supply and demand. You've got to ask for more than $200 here. I'm going easily, I'm going easily five figures. And if he goes, you're out of your mind, I go, well, then tell me what's in the realm of possibility. Yeah.

Because I know you're not finding a lot of options here. Counter, dude. I said 10 grand. You counter. You left money on the table. Okay. You left money on the table. Because of that, I think you could keep buying jocks and keep selling him to him until he dries up.

Till he no longer hawks to a once he's no hawking. I think you put your goalie mask on with a. ski mask on under it so you can't see your face and I think you film yourself doing squats in a sauna wearing nothing but your goalie jock wearing this and go only this got fresh yeah got fresh product for you yeah yeah dude yes if you think if you send that video he's not shelling out five figures you're out of your mind you've found yourself a gold mine bleed this pervert dry not kinkshaming not kingshame but bleed him dry he's got money to spend I'll take it make him spend it on you I'm actually get my I might get this guy's info

To be honest with you, I might get this guy. I don't play goalie, but I can put on a goalie jock. I think if this guy's in. He won't know. And I'm a sweater. God. Jesus Christ. Wow, take a breath.

And now we're going to go into our blind ranking brought to you by our good friends at Bauer. Can you believe the people at Bauer bring you a Twitch and blind rankings? It's unbelievable. They're the best people. What a combo. I fucking love Bauer so much. This one again came from our live show.

This is two in a row, two weeks in a row. People on the live show recommending the next blind ranking. And this one said, can you guys please blind rank the best beers to have after a beer league game. Oh, so are we doing like a brand of beer? Yep. Oh, wow. And we are not going to, we've already told Waxie can't say Labat blue because that's the goat and it would be one automatically. So we're not going to not even going to include Labat in this, but shouts to a cold Labat after a beer league game, you shouldn't be.

Yeah, Labat is eliminated because it's too good. Yeah, it would obviously be more. So blind ranking beers to have after a beer league game, Wagg. hit us. We're going heavy off the bat with a Guinness. So it's Dan, this is why this is really interesting to me. Again, Labat eliminated. This is my favorite beer. I know. But what's interesting to me is I, we have the luxury. I know not all ranks have this, but we have luxury having a really cool bar right above the rank too. So usually it's kind

of like beers in the locker room into beers up top. Sometimes if someone forgets the beer, douche, we go right up top. If there are guests there, We go right up top because they're waiting. And if we got up top and she cracks, she pours me a draft, Guinness, this is damn near one. But in the locker room, in the can, while I'm still sweaty, while I'm still wearing half my gear. Yeah. Yeah. I might have to go actually really low.

I'm going to go low. But again, this is my favorite beer. I know. It's just not the setting for it. Fuck. So maybe four. Maybe four. I think so.

Damn. If you had told me I had a Guinness and a four. I'm okay with this because it's the situation. Right. Holy shit. Okay, four. Budweiser. Heavy?

Or go heavy. Yeah, Budweiser is heavy. Bud heavy. Three. Fucking drinking reds after a game or you're out of your mind. Like, is there a chance that's five? Is there a chance that's five? No, because there's a chance that some horrible shit could come.

fucking garbos. This is a difficult prying rank for me because I do not fuck with beer at all. There's a horror, dude, some horrible shit could come to the point that this might even be too.

I also, I'm sure there are a lot of people listening right now, punching their steering wheel at what I just said, I don't know how many more fucking times I need to tell you guys. I am a bitch boy.

I am a little boozy twat. We might need, we might need to go Guinness higher. Well, well, we can't, but I'm just saying, we might need it to go to

or I thought you were about to break the great cardinal sin of blind ranking. I think I would drink a bud heavy over a Guinness in the locker room, though. Because it's still ice cold coming out of the cooler. God, bud heavy. And I just have one. Just have one.

Okay. So yeah, dude. So now, so now like it tastes. It feels like you're drinking a thick syrup. Actually, no. It's a two. Or sorry, it's a three. It's a three.

It's a three. It's a three. But no, I think there was an argument for two. But I just thought of some more good ones. So we're going three. Three. A bush light. I think I just fucking sucks.

No, it's due to T. What are you doing to us, Wags? It's an interesting. Bush light. Two, for sure or two. And maybe one, based on how this is going.

I put it this way. I like what Wags is doing to us right now. He's keeping us on our toes. He's changing things up. I'm telling you this. If I'm in this locker room and someone opens up a magic cooler and those are the three first beers pulled out,

I'm like, this is the worst locker I've ever been in. But is the order, is the order you drink them in Bushlight, Bud Heavy Guinness? Yes. So then I do we might have to go one.

No. Relax. You relax, dude. No, you're out of control. Two. A Modello. Fuck. Dude.

This is the most fucking bat-sheet, unhinged. No, dude. Unhinged list I've ever seen. Beer leaguers were already rioting at your butt heavy take because there's like,

that is such a popular. I know it's a staple. And so is Modelo. Like half the guys on our team are like, when it's their night, they want Modelo so badly. Mano's like a celebratory. Dude, everybody loves Modelo. Everybody. People are going to lose their shit when they say this, but I really don't like Mexican beer.

I really don't. It's one of my least favorite beers, and Modello isn't the worst of them. But it's, I would, every time they do the, which one, Chris, we've got a Mexican beer or the other one. I take the other one every time. Here's. So I might even, but dude. Also, garbage. Garbage beer.

Trash. Disgusting. But here's the problem. It might be one. Because there is a fucking chance that some absolute insanity comes. And I'm 120 minute IPA. That can't be it.

But there's also the chance that an absolute goat shows up. We need to figure out. We need to figure out which risk. Yeah, dude. So our life's on the line right here, Dan. Do we go trash Modelo 1 because there's a fucking cement block coming that I'm supposed to ingest after the game? Or do we go Modelo 5 where it likely belongs because a pure, like the most pure crisp logger is coming. Don't look at him.

Don't look at him because he's going to give it away. But I just don't look at what? Don't look at wax. Oh. What do you think he's up his sleeve? I think he's going to be a son of a bitch, dude. This has been an insane list. Okay.

So then you want to go Modello 1. to prepare, to prepare for the wreckage. I do not want to be the one to make this decision. I fucked us last time, remember? I know what I want to do in my head. I fucked us with the brunch cocktails. I put sangria four, and then we lost because of me. So you have to do this.

A lot of people think that you did the great thing. A lot of people love Irish whiskey. Well, maybe people will love what you do here. And I'm excited to see what that is. Five. Oh my God. Okay, Modella five wags. What's one?

And don't you dare, I didn't, do you hear what he said? No. Don't you dare change what you were going to say. But I have a bit. Be an honorable man. A good old Mickey Ultra. Big! Yes!

God, dude. That's a good one. That is a good... I'll drink 15 of those in the locker room. That is a great... That is a great fucking post-game beer. Holy shit. I'll drink a little thin can, tall thin can.

99. My tall thin me? 99. I might have one right now. I'll drink 15 of those in the locker room. Dude, that is fucking huge. That saved the day. Wow, Wags.

Well played, sir. That saved the day. Wow. I think that that is just fine. That's what we need. A lot of people are going to be upset about the Modelo take, but I'm sorry you have bad taste. It's a shitty beer. Yep. I love it. Oh, me too. That is it for us this episode of the Empty Netters podcast. Those are all of our series previews.

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