Empty Netters Podcast - The Penguins Smell Blood In The Water

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

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Ice is ready, and we're back with another episode. Live version of the MTVitonters podcast brought to you by BetMGMC is alive. Not hungover at all. I could fucking run a mile today, Dan. One? One mile. Can you imagine, dude?

Yeah, I mean, I can imagine running a mile. Like, if you'd said a marathon or something, maybe I would have been a little bit like, I'm not sure if I could handle that, but a mile one. I could do. I couldn't have run one yesterday. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. This is an improvement.

This is a win. Yesterday was tough stuff. Yesterday was tough stuff. But what brought us back to life was Stanley Cup play out hockey. Dude, it's crazy that the juice it provides. I literally intended to never speak to anyone again post-live yesterday till right now. I thought these people were going to be the first people I saw since I left. But then the call of hockey.

All of a sudden you're back. It brought me back. You know what's really tough for me. is I had two separate dentist appointments yesterday that I just missed. Fuck, I have to, I have one Thursday. I have to cancel. I just, like, slept right through them. Dude, don't let me forget that when we're driving later.

I actually literally have to cancel my dentist on Thursday. I forgot about that. Otherwise, I'm going to get charged. I actually, I called one of the guys. He was a guy. A dentist that I went to for the first time I was tested out dentists. Oh, yeah, you went to Wong. He was a lovely man.

Lovely, lovely guy, but just not for me. And I called him and I was like, hey, I'm so sorry. I missed that appointment. And he goes like, oh, it's okay, I'm going to have to charge you $50 for a missed appointment fee. And I go, if you can fucking find me, pal. What are you going to do? Send me a $50 invoice, dude. In your bra, I'm paying.

Yeah, wait, what will happen? Wong will never see me again. I think he thinks I'm going to reschedule and come in and he's going to tack on $50. So hold on. You had had an appointment with him. Yeah, he gave me a cleaning. And I'd give it a B. Did you use your credit card?

Is it on file? I don't think it's on file. use Apple Pay. Interesting. He can't charge me shit. Dude, because I actually, this was ridiculous. I've bitched to you about this already,

but when I got my hand x-rays, they go, hey, you need to see a hand orthopedic to make sure you don't need surgery or a hard cast. I go, no problem. What do I do? And they go, go to your insurance, look up hand orthopedics, call them

set an appointment. Just look at your x-ray. I go, okay. And then they go, Dude, this was, you know, weeks ago, right? They go, yeah, no problem, we can see you in May. And I'm like, well, it would already be destroyed by then. Yeah.

If I was healing this incorrectly. So anyway, I had one that I had scheduled for this morning. And I forgot. Because it was so far out. I was like, sure. And then I got a text that was like, yo. Are you coming? Yeah.

So I was, I've been calling. I called and I called and I called yesterday. I called today. And no one would answer. And I was like, fuck, dude. They're going to get pissed at me. But then I was like, they don't even know who I am. They've never seen me.

They have nothing on file. I literally made the appointment over the phone. You know, so I was like, I think I just a no-show. I did call them one more time on the way in. They did pick up and I did cancel. But I'm just saying, good man.

I could have vanished into thin air. I feel bad about no-show appointments. I felt bad for my dentist. Yeah, it sucks. I was like, I'm sorry. But if you could only see me and how miserable I am, you would understand.

How bad my life is. But it was right after that that these games came on. Pit Philly. Bang. On first. And it was truly, it was, I, I just kind of sat up on the couch and I was like, I kind of feel like a human again. Okay. And wouldn't you know it, it was right in time for pop drop.

It's incredible. It's unbelievable. I give Pitt credit because last episode, I was saying stuff like, what other series was it that I must have been talking about? Sabres maybe even, but I had been talking about the 3-1 lead as the home. seed and just you know like the breakdown of where where the pressure shifts in games and i was saying oh maybe it was maybe it was um ducks whatever but i was saying like the way pressure shifts and dude honestly we didn't i didn't even bring it up for pit just because the way game four went even with the win i was like you you don't feel like you you don't feel like the flyers are in

trouble no even going to pit and and after the game maybe i should have but um right away right away, Pittsburgh, I was like, oh, oh, they actually might be back in a little bit of ways. I actually feel like, Dan, the flyers were not that great till Olympics and then had a great push. Yeah. Like their big push came after Olympics. Yeah. And the penguins kind of did this a couple times. I was like, oh, penguins.

And I was like, ah, penguins. Yeah. And I was like, oh, penguins. And then they were kind of doing that. To just start the playoffs, they were in all penguins. the flyers were in post-Olympics flyers. And now I'm worried. I'm not saying it's for sure.

I'm just saying I'm worried that we might be, oh, penguins. And flyers might be pre-Olympics. And then that would be a problem. Listen, there's a couple of things. In game four, I mentioned how many times Philly kind of battled back after Pitt would take a lead. Yep. And I was like that, I love that sign from Philly because while the penguins are getting hot,

they're not totally cooling down. That's going to be a good sign for Philly. Yep. Well, that happened again in this game. Pitt goes up to nothing. Good point. Philly ties it to two, too, and then Pitt gets the lead back. So now I'm starting to flip to the other side again, and I'm being like, well, pit,

even with Philly battling back, they don't care because they just keep holding on. So now I'm like, well, well, well. Yeah. Maybe it actually isn't a great Flyers thing. Maybe it's a great Pitt thing. Here's a question. Did you ever think about that? No, I haven't even thought about that.

That's actually, even though I have recovered, that is too much for me to think about. Yeah. you know, I can only really think about one theory at a time. Sure. I get it. You're throwing a lot of theories at me. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure. Too many theories next thing you know, it's the theory of everything. Oh, shit. And now we've solved the meaning of the universe. Yes.

We were first, we were in a blender. But also first we were in a blender, dude, now we're what is he saying? Now are curing cancer. But unfortunately, you also have Lou Gehrig's disease now in this scenario. Damn, that was Lou Gehrig's disease? Yeah. Why isn't it called fucking Stephen Hawkins Because Lou got it first. Fuck.

Maybe you should take it, though. I'm more important. Stephen Hawking's disease or Lou Gehrig's disease. I think Lou Gehrig's disease sounds better. It does. Unfortunately, it does. It does. Here's a concern I had to.

Also, by the way, shout out bump, getting in the lineup, getting a playoff goal. Dude, key bump. Fifth round pick, I think. Little key bump for the playoffs is always going to get you. Because, dude, Mitchcoff, scratch. I was actually, sometimes I don't know why I care about this, but when I put on ESPN, for 30 minutes before the game, I want it to be

the pregame shit. Like, I want it to be, we're at the rink and we're cut into people on ice level and all this shit. And ESPN was just running Sports Center, or at least on the West Coast, was just running Sports Center

right up right up until 4. So it was like, anyway, this is a sports center and then it was like, boom, the game. And I was like, loop me up a little bit, please. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. But anyway, they finally cut the thing and they're like, Mitchcoff scratched. And I was like, whoa.

And I think Flyers said, I think I just saw somebody say, oh, but just Mitchikov, healthy scratch. I don't know if they're Flyers fans in the chat that wanted that or liked that. I guess I haven't been watching Mitchikov closely enough to have an opinion on if I think he should have been scratched. He's been brutal.

But it's just like, dude, that's a... You don't want that because that is a full stop. That is a very talented guy on your team who produces. So him not in the lineup is only a bad thing because... Can the chat... Chat? Help us out here. Like, what is happening there? Is Mitch Koff just like a fat fuck?

Or is he terrible? What is happening to him? I think he's so good. Watching the games, he has not been playing well. I can see that with my two eyes. I think playoffs scare him. But I'm not dialed into the inner workings of Philadelphia Flyer Hockey. So what are they saying at practice?

What are they saying in the local, the local rags? Like what is his deal? Like 20 tucks, 51 points, 20 tucks. He had the sophomore slump, which pretty much everybody has. So don't even freak about that. 51 points, though? But 51 points and 20 tucks. Like, that's, you need that guy.

I'm not kicking you out of the playoffs. Yeah, I'm not kicking you out of the lineup for that. Bro, dude, you got to get in there, score a fucking goal. Especially, I know he gets power play time. And like the power play has been fucking brutes, magutes. So I don't know where he's at, but that would be, that would be great. Second thing, Dan, the, when, when Gabe Landisog shoots one off the end boards and it hits Forsi and goes in, I go, damn, that sucks.

Which it does. Especially we said, especially when you're the kings and they're the abs. But just point, larger point kind of being, shit happens in playoffs, dude. We always say this. Pucks just get thrown on net in playoffs through the way they do not in the regular season. Sure. Shit happens. We have seen Pucks bounce in off fucking pretty much every goalie so far.

When two games in a row, when Bladar kind of mishandles one behind, and then Tanger shoots one over the head and hits him, I just now, now here comes theory number three. Now it's a problem. because I can't be having goals just fucking bouncing in off you from behind the net every game. It's happening to this team a lot. Yeah.

So I'm going to need that. You've got to clean it up. Cleaned up in a big way. To the point, dude, that I'm almost going, dude, stay in the fucking net. I'd rather, as a defenseman, retrieve my own rim jobs than you trying to get out and stop everything

and whatever. Just fucking stop the puck. Please. Okay. Here's my take on this. God, I wish we're. we had Wyatt for this discussion. As a defenseman,

I fucking hate it when my goalie touches the puck. I would scream at them. Unless it is such a clean dump that they can get back behind the net to stop it and then get out of my way before I even get there, if there is a world where we are close to each other, I would hate it. I would always be like, just leave it, dude. Fucking stop touching it. Does that include when we were playing at a higher level?

Because in beer league, I agree with you. I'm like, Oh, no, I mean the higher level. I would, and like, my goalies knew that about me.

I was like, if I was like, if I'm on the ice, don't fucking touch the puck. Oh, I was like, go get that baby. I mean,

I was never back there. I hated it because there's always the like, again, if they go back and just stop it and then they come out and they're like, it's there. That's great. But it's when they would touch it

and then like look up and try to pass. Yeah. I'd be like, just fucking leave it alone. Because the best case scenario is you snap one tape to tape to me in a five foot

box and we don't need that. No one needs that. We're not saving time. Dude, when I was there was one game where we had a power play and I'm at the very top. Puck like probably

my fault like puck bounces over my stick whatever and now it's trickling towards our goal and I'm like oh fuck someone's going to get a short-handed breakway so I take off after it and I think I'm going to get there but my goalie decides to come out and get it too because he's like well I can win that race. So I peel off to the side because I'm like just clear that shit dude like people are coming and he fires

him and goleys can fire him pretty good sometimes and he fires one directly off my shin pads and back into our own net and that game was getting streamed on tv and i remember being like this sucks what have you done you've just humiliated me this wasn't my fucking fault goalie stay in the fucking net lard stay in the fucking net figure it out however dan is there anything to this the pens third goal, even though it was the Vladar chaos. Yeah. Was a little lucky. And I'm wondering, I mean, the Sauterboom goal was great.

Actually, so is the bartender. Doers. So is that. Crosby, great fucking play. Yeah, you know what, I take it back? I was going to say, I'm just worried that if I'm Pittsburgh, and if I rolled on Philly in this game, like it looked like it might go. Yeah.

I go, we are so fucking fine. I go into Philly, beat them again where I've already beaten, and then we go home game seven is ours. And I do think Pittsburgh at least thinks that. If we can get this to Game 7, we're going to win. But I think if I'm Philly, I go, dude, we're so fine. Like, they went up to nothing again.

We fucking tied the game, and then they bounced one off the end wall and win it. Like, we're going home, we're going to win. It's all good. Yeah. I don't think you're panicked, but I think that this is now a series. Zach, can you pull up that pick that I sent you? I want everyone to see this picture if they haven't seen it yet. but we had the Crosby embellishment play, right?

Yeah. And then the reaction he had to the fan in the... Was awesome. Was awesome because it was very much like he is like, yeah, whatever, dude. Yeah. So I actually thought that was a fun sign of him being like, whatever, dude. I'm not phased by that. We also got all the guys in Pitt going.

Crosby's on the score sheet, tangers on the score sheet with the game winning goal tonight. Carlson's on the score sheet. you've got some vibes now here in Pitt and I think that they are their plan so this shirt that Carlson is wearing says 50 years no cups with like a flyer's logo on it and that shit to wear that in the game like in the locker

I'm like this like that's shithousery man yes it is you're down three two but that is proper shithousery like look at that that is so funny and yeah go on and this is the type of shit Shidhousery that I think rallies a team. That's the type of shithousery that gets the people going. So I love this.

I love this shirt. I love that it exists. It's so fucking funny that he would wear it. This feels like one of those shirts that, frankly, like a company like us would make. And then once they won the series, or maybe even once they won the final they would have it on, like when the Panthers boys have all those teasers on at the parade and all that shit,

to wear it right now, down 3-2, is fucking epic. here's a question though is here's the big question is the photo real do we even care is the photo real i don't know where did you get so so here's the here's the tease for everybody

the hat is why it's definitely not real what is the hat say Zach if you can pull the photo down this is why I love this is why I wanted to put the photo yeah because I see that I'm like oh my god look at the hat

liquor yeah if she'll let me. Correct. It's not real. Or at least it certainly can't be real. But, dude, I wanted to throw that up because I want it. I want that juice.

I want people to feel the juice. How do we make that shirt? We need to make that shirt immediately. How do we make that shirt? Dude. You already have that hat. You got that hat from me, dude. So, sorry, sorry for the, sorry for the dupe folks.

But I just, I need, I need to insert the juice into Penguins fans because that is the energy that we need. We do need that shirt being. sold outside the rink. Here's a question, though, Dan, about shithousery. Is there a, and this is a fine line because

players, great players do this all the time. Marshy, Matthew Kachuk to a degree. I mean, frankly, that whole fucking Panthers team last year. You want to be that instigator. You want to be getting under people's skin, but sometimes it does

wake up the team. Like, you're kind to try to be like, I'm a pest, whatever, whatever. And I think there's a version where the Flyers shithousery has now awoken these guys. You just were naming all the guys that are getting on the score sheet. Before I was kind of like, dude, let them be. Like you're winning, you're doing everything right. Like, they don't need.

And I know the argument is when we're getting them off their game. That's why they're not scoring. But I'm like, oh, dude, they're just not score. Just leave it. Leave it. Leave it. Leave it. Because there's so much bullshit happening that I'm almost like, man, the Flyers are too concerned with bothering the penguin stars than they are with winning and now the penguin stars are scoring and now the flowers are losing. Yeah, it feels is there a chance that Dan Mews just needed a little bit to adjust? Maybe. First three games, it was like, it's playoff hockey.

He was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I did feel that way. But now he's kind of like, okay, I got a feel for this. And they're back to play in their game. And making some plays five on five that I didn't think we've been seeing, especially in the neutral zone. Because the flyers are on this one three one and the penguins are dead. Because Biz pointed out, and I really like that.

this call. In the first three games, this Penguins team surprised the world, in my opinion. I mean, the fact that they were second in the Met was a shock. They surprised the world, but they played, you had Crosby, who was point per game again, then you had guys like Manta, who had such an insane season. And they played a very clean version of hockey. It was like a very, they were pumping in goals. Not really blowing your dick off, but they were pumping in goals in a very, in a very clean, crisp version of hockey. And then they got into the series and they tried to play fucking rope-a-dope with Philly.

Yep. They got in the mud and this is a clean team. Penguins don't like mud. They like snow. Yeah, they love snow. And they are all of a sudden slipping and sliding around in the mud and they were like, this isn't working. And I feel like the last two games have been more penguins hockey.

And what do you know? They've got a couple wins. Dub, dub, dub. I think I agree with that. And I just, though, there's, if you're, the pressure, I think, is your only enemy. Because I actually think, even in these two losses, they've been right in the mixer.

If it wasn't game four also tied? Like, they went down and then tied it. I believe so. Maybe Philly went up, or excuse me, maybe Pitt went up 3-1. Yeah, Connectney scored, I think, and made it a one goal game. But then... Yeah, so they didn't actually... But in this one, they tied up.

I just... If I'm talk, I'm going like this. Dude, yes, this is a series. But what did we think? We were going to sweep the fucking penguins. Like, you're fine. just win at home and we're good. However, that is easier said from a guy like talk

who's got a thousand pims and a thousand points and has been in these situations. That's the spin zone, right? Versus some guys who have never been in the fucking playoffs, literally ever. It's a very young team, no playoff experience against the legends on that other side. So it is going to be hard, I think,

for them to go into game six at home going if we lose this game, we are so fucking fucked because now we're about to get reverse swept, back in pit, blah, blah, blah. Not guaranteed that happens. Just saying there's a lot of pressure. Let's have a question about that pressure. uh,

Zach, if you're a fan and your team's up 3-0 if the other team wins two, are you sweating already? Or are you like, no, no, no, I don't sweat until it's 3-3. I mean, it depends on the team. If like, it depends on the year, it depends on the team. But if it's a team that bounces back, kind of like the timber wolves on the NBA side, if I just feel they got that like grit and they got that just like, I want to be down, but I'm going to fight back, then I'm chilling.

Okay. But if they're like a little high and mighty, a little crazy, then you can tell that they panic when they're up, then I'm freaking out. So it's more about the personality of the team to me. Okay. See, I like that take. I think it is, I don't think it's a standard if you have the sweep on the table

and now the reverse sweep is possibly coming. I don't think it is a standard. Well, if they went to two, you start freaking out. I do think it depends on the team. and I'm glad Zach said that because I think a Sydney Crosby team is chilling

No, not as chilling but is like I'm scared Oh if you're playing If I'm Philly I'm like I hate that this is Crosby Well dude we say Also you make the switch to Sheelovs

Dude okay And all of a sudden you start winning This is exactly what happened To the fucking Kings last year Picard goes in for the Oilers And they never lose a fucking again And you're like oh my God Dude and here's what's crazy

Okay so I have a couple things say about this I gotta make sure I don't forget them The goalies long okay on the series score thing, we had said with Bugsie that it was like, the Flyers are 16 and 0 when they go up to nothing

in franchise history. This was going into game 3. And we had all been like, I bet Pitt wins game 3 in Philly and we're going to leave 2-2 with the road wins. And then the Flyers won game 3 and I was like, oh wow, never mind. But Bugsy was saying, man,

doesn't Sid feel like the guy who would end that? Like the Flyers are 16 and 0 all time and it's like, but now you're playing Crosby. Yes. I almost feel it even harder now that I'm like, of course Sid is the guy that reverse sweeps the fly. Like they go, we did it. And I'm like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

And then Sid rips your soul out of your body. That would be a nightmare. Also, I think this is a ridiculous take, but I believe this. Yeah. I would rather, if I feel like I'm the better team, I would rather lose a game on the way in the series.

Like I want to lose one early. I want to go up to, oh, then lose. or even lose game two and just be like, I'm better, dude, we will win. Because the 3-0 only leads to weird conversations like this. As soon as you go up 3-0, everybody starts going, uh-oh, you better close it out, the pressure, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, chill, dude, we're better. Who fucking cares? I don't know.

I just, I refuse the mental games, dude. They're real, but they're real. They're real. Just win hockey games. They're real, dude. I agree with that, but they're real. Like, look at the Cains, look at the abs. Like, just win.

It doesn't matter. Yeah, but, dude. The mental stuff only happens if you let it, dude. And you are the biggest mental fuck stick I've ever met. Yep, but I bet more people are like me than like you. You're also mental, dude. Fuck you. Yeah, I'm definitely mental.

I'm definitely mental. But I'm talking about with sports. Chris could be a fan of a team that's up 3-0 in the series. And then in game four, they go up 4-0-0. And the other team scores one goal, and Chris goes like this. That's it, dude. That's the beginning of the end. That's game.

That is what you would do. I know, because I am right. I know it's game. No, dude, that is the thing. Well, you always go, I'm right, and that is why I do this. You've been right maybe 7% in your life. That's high. That feels high.

But it's just like, yeah, it does feel high, doesn't it? Dips shit. It's probably more like 2%. It feels right. But you just parade around going like this. Yeah, but that 2% that I was right, I shoved in everyone's face. Yeah, and it was worth it for my mental health. It is no way to live.

Okay, goaly thing. the here's my fear if you're a penguins fan here should be your fear you I don't know how I didn't see it earlier but you are spot on the switch to Shilob the spider who has won they've said it a million times in the broadcast but has won the HL playoff MVP has won a world

championship gold or whatever it was world junior gold you know but he's he shined in international competitions shined in playoffs in the HL the switch to Shilops was diabolical smart and it's going to be what Jean-Luc Picard did and it's going to be what

Shilov has done in the past. I was going to say in Vancouver. When he showed up in Vancouver out of nowhere, he was great in that playoff series and people were like, what the fuck? Who is this guy? And dude, this is what I forgot. I'm not even joking. This is going to sound hyperbolic, but this is what I legitimately forgot. We kept saying, everybody kept saying about the Skinner deal. Well, don't forget, Stu's gotten pretty hot in playoffs. If Stu gets hot, I mean, who knows what could happen?

The penguins are going to run. Stu has multiple playoff shutouts in his career, correct? Dude, Stu has only gotten hot in playoffs. After he's been yanked. After he's been yanked. This is what you need. I can't believe I forgot about this. So the switch to Shilob not only buys you a big game dog goalie who could steal a few,

but it also allows you to go back to Skinner and activate multiple shutouts. The fear if you're pit is you waited one game too long. to do it though. Because you left no room for error. I swear if you pulled Skinner after game two, Sheelab would have won you game three, game four, game five, whatever, maybe you lose game six, whatever.

And then you get to go back to Stu and you get shuddy, shuddy, shuddy, and now we're rolling. But you really do need Sheelab to give you four straight here because you waited one game long. Interesting. So I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen,

but the switch was fucking genius, dude. So my last thing on this series, as I will say, after the game, I loved, loved the fight from Porter Mark Tone with LaTang. Okay. That's a guy twice... Dude, Porter is the man.

He is the man. It's crazy. That is a guy twice your age and they're just feeding each other and I was like, okay, Porter. Twice your age first ballot Hall of Fame. Correct. And you're like, dude, eat a knuckle fucking sandwich.

Yeah, yeah, you're just going. And I love that. I love that. Okay, if Pitt wins game six, are you calling it for Pitt? I'm not calling it because... You're a pussy. There's...

No, no, it's out of respect for Philly. But I think if you... or I guess define call it. For me, that's automatic. It's over. Philly might as well not show up. That's why I'm saying, I don't believe it's that

because Philly out of respect. But if you're asking me to say, you know, who wins, I'm taking Pitt. Yeah. If it goes seven. Yeah, I think this is a battle

no matter what. I think Philly can win game six though. People are tweaking, but I'm like, they should just win at home. I think Philly can win game six too. Yep. I feel good about that.

Okay. Moving on. No, I got one thing on that series and it's important. Okay. Malkin firing the puck into the Philly bench. I did you see it?

It was early. I did watching yet. So online, I had like just come alive at that. Okay, yeah. Online, see if you can find that as, or I mean, Zach. See if you can find the clip of Malkin shooting the puck onto the Philly bench. We'll put it up on this, on the stream. Malkin shoots the puck, and he's just trying to get it in, and it hits either the ref or it must

hit the bench, whatever, like just organic. we get a whistle. I kind of look away. I look back up, everybody's screaming. Ray Ferraro's going like, what the fuck is going on? I rewind the YouTube stream. He literally was.

He was like, what the hell is happening? What the hell's going on around here? What the fuck? And Sean, our boy, Sean, goes, do you think that was intentional? And then finally they get some good replays. I was seeing a bunch of people online go. And I think Colby was on the stream too.

Army was on the string too. Some people were saying he's trying to flip it to the linesman, but I don't think so because he, A, not even looking at the linesman, which players have done that, like a no-look flip, but dude, he's not even looking at him, and it's way too hard. Yeah, it's hard. Way too hard. Felt like a shot.

And then Army goes, I think he was trying to fire it off Porter Martone, because he's kind of right there, just trying to, like, flick it at him, which is also fucking dushy, but like, whatever, he's just flicking it off your shin pads. Just being a shit stirer. Yeah, that's what this is about. But then he misses. and it does like nearly drill the assistant coach

and that's what you see talk saying. You go, you almost hit him in the fucking head, douche. Yeah. I, I want your take on it because intention doesn't matter, right? They always say that about tripping. I don't care what you were trying to do. The guy stuck on your stick and tripped.

And even if he was like, dude, I was just trying to flick it off from our tone. I'm like, yeah, but you did fire it at their bench and nearly hit the assistant. To the point that I could have seen a penalty there and not been that upset. Of course, it's like one minute into the game. And I would have been like, I could see myself also being like, that's a little soft.

But I'm like, Malks, you've got to calm down, dude. That was ridiculous. I think it's a penalty for sure, but I also love it. Do you love it if he was trying to shoot it at the bench? Yes. Okay, I can't go that far because that actually was dangerous. Like, if that hit, no one's looking. If that hit the assistant coach in the face and he loses two teeth, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's terrible.

Yeah. But I love it. I can't, I can't stamp that if you think he meant to do the bench. No, me neither. I'm not co-signing the behavior, but I love it. You're saying I love it. I'm saying I can't co-sign a love. I will not love an intentional bench.

I will love an intentional shot at Porter. That's fine. But an intentional bench rip. But I think that's what he was doing. I think he was shooting at that Porter. Yeah, no, but I'm saying if he was, if we sat him down and he went, no, I was trying to fire that at their bench.

You said, I would still love that. Yeah, I think I still do. I think he was shooting it at Porter, but even if it's out the bench. Dude, series like this, you need shithowsery. But if it was forehand, does that change it for you?

Backhand is like a little, what if he literally just took the puck on his forehead and fires a snapshot? I think it's insane. And everybody's like, holy shit. I think it's insane, but I still love it.

Someone had to put one across the Pittsburgh bow after that. I can't believe, I can't believe Zegris didn't fucking Michigan spin around and fire one that Dan Muses. And I him go like this. What? I was just flipping it to the fucking ref.

And they go, you just Michigan, Dan Muses's fucking glasses off. Listen, I, it's, I think it was. intentional. I think it was

mental to do so, but fucking, it's playoff hockey, baby. Sure is. Let's make it crazy. Insane. Insane. Okay, now we can go to Vegas, Utah. This game is drunk. What a game, and it was hilarious because I was talking

to Marty, Alec, at Marty, and you are flying Monday, I think, is it right now, or excuse me, Friday. Yeah. So we've been talking about the live stream and just someone I should have come on for a little bit. So I go, Marty, any chance you're free Friday morning to do that live show?

Yeah. And he goes in, but I'm supposed to do Vegas game six. So if that's happening, I'm out. But I'll let you know. And I said, all good. Vegas goes up 3-0. I text him. So catch you next week.

Yeah. I was like, there's obviously a game six now. And then it was like, p. 4-3 Utah. And he was like, well, maybe, maybe I'm in. I was like, holy shit. Dr. Watkins texted us soaking works, which I thought was funny. because I could not believe that comeback.

And this is another one similar to Philly Pitt game four, where I was sitting there going, yep, here comes the Vegas fucking steamroll. Here comes the, oh, I hope you've had fun in playoffs, Utah. Good day. I'm going to win this game, go home, win game five, and then probably rinse you in game six. But even if not, I win in seven. And then I don't even care that Vegas won. the fact that Utah has a four three lead in this game

makes me feel so much more confident that they are completely fine. And obviously this is a tilt, but it started to feel like, oh shit, we're dead and when we caught them by surprise no longer. I am so fine with this loss, so fine with this loss if I'm the mammoth. I think I am too, but anytime you're giving up four or five goals, I don't think you can feel great.

Yep. And, I mean, listen, this game starts and Vegas was absolutely pissed a whipping. And I thought to myself, well, you're dead. We declared Vegas dead yesterday. I know. I was like they're finished. And they go up three nothing and I was like, well, they're alive.

Holy hell. And they let them not only do the mammoth come back and tie it. The mammoth come back and take a lead. And then you fucking let them score and then lose again. I thought it was like a. it was a good battle back, but I'm certainly not like fine. Once you get the lead in that game,

you have to be at home. You have to be like, and we have ripped your soul out of your body, and you're now down 3-1. Yeah, it's over. But you give that lead back up and lose. So no, I do not think at all, the mammoth are like,

I feel great about that, dude. Or rather, I'm not fazed by that at all. I think ripping that lead back and then fumbling it, fucking blows. you're saying, and I don't think I agree with this, but it's an interesting convo, you're saying you would have rather,

if you're Utah, if you have to lose, obviously you want to win, but if you have to lose you. I fucking hate your dumbass hypotheticals, dude. Well, this is a great one. If you're Utah, would you rather have just lost four or five one because you go, whatever? Or would you rather have come all the way back, taken the lead, and then lost it in overtime?

I would have rather won the game. How about that? That choice C wasn't on the sheet. Well, I'm creating it. I wrote it in. I put choice C. I put a pull up. so somebody can answer.

I just think if you're seriously if you're gonna be a douche about it with that question like I don't give a fuck how you lose. It doesn't fucking matter. The puck goes in how the puck goes in. If they lost, they lost. I'm saying if you're going to try to act like oh dude

the fact that they came back it makes that loss way less bad. I disagree. I think you don't want to lose at all but I think to come back and take the lead in the third period and then give it up again and lose an overtime, I do not think

Utah has this like, oh dude, I'm not like, fuck that game, whatever. I think you fucking fumbled that game. I don't even think that's debatable. You have a lead, you score four straight goals and take the lead in the third period of that game and then you give it up and lose an OT on home ice. That is a

fumbling of that game. Is Utah freaking out? No. We're an even series now. We're playing a best of three now. But fucking get absolutely fucked with the attitude of that means nothing. Like they're

they feel great about that loss. I do. No one's ever felt great about a loss, which is not at all what I said. No, I'm not saying you did. But I'm saying this fucking bitch-ass attitude of like, oh, I'm not phase at all because we came back in that game and then puked on ourselves. I'm like, what are you talking about? They puked on themselves. Dude, puking on yourself is what Vegas did.

Like, puking on yourself is what Boston did in game one. Losing a one goal lead to a higher seed team, to the division winning team when you're a wildcard team is not puking on yourself. You go, oh my God, a really good team scored one goal against us.

That is, that's fucking hockey. But again, you're ignoring the fact that they scored four straight to rip the, dude, if you, mental case, dick's fuck, if you were on the ice and you gave up four goals, you would literally leave the ice dude.

You would have gone to the locker and gotten changed because you would have gone just forfeit. it's over. Like if I was Vegas. Yes. If you want to talk about the fucking mental state of the game,

going up 3-0 in their barn, you were like this, you fucking eat me, Utah. Like you think that you had an upper hand on us? It's 3-0. And then you give up four goals. You were like, oh, my God. So you're absolutely right.

Utah or Vegas goes up 3-0, and then they puked on themselves. Yeah. But then when Utah gets those four goals and has all the momentum, and gives up a goal and then loses an OT, you've also puked on yourself. Dual pukes. There was mutual pukes.

Double barrel puking. There's no doubt that there was multiple pukes. Yep. But I'm just saying to go all the way back to your initial point, no. I do not think anyone is unfazed by that loss. If I'm a Utah and I get in that locker room, I am like, fuck me. I'm not like we're dead. Because like we said, it's a three game series now.

It's fine. It's two, two. It's all evened up. But no question about it. Like, motherfucker. Had a chance. We had a chance, and we had a chance to eviscerate them. Two wins at home.

You're now down 3-1, Vegas. Suck me. You have a great chance, and you blew it. So, like, yeah, I think that they are absolutely pissed. They're not in that locker room clapping it up, being like, boys, great fucking battle back. They don't know what's coming. You had two overtimes to win, and you couldn't.

So you are mad if you were Utah. Now, unfortunately, you've lost half the games at Delta Center, So you don't even have that home ice advantage anymore. They were 100%, Chris. Now it's like, now it's a fucking coin flip. And now they're 50%. Which is so bad.

Yeah, like everything, I think you just said this in the Pitt series. Everything is a spin zone. Absolutely. I initially would be going, oh my God. We literally had a chance, a golden chance to go up 3-1

and now we have fucked that. Yeah. But with some time, and again, spin zone, but with some time, I am 100% going down that locker, I'm dapping everybody up going like this. That was their fucking best punch.

And we went like this. Okay, I like this. Watch how quickly I came back. There is no lead they could ever get that is safe against us. They think they're better than us. They thought they were going to roll on us. That doesn't even exist. They could never roll on us.

We are in every fucking game and tonight proved it. That's my spin zone for the boys. And I feel that way. And that's why me personally would rather lose that way than going, we got wrenched six one and I go. Yeah. And listen, I think that that is a good spin zone.

But I don't think it's a real spin zone. I think in your, like, you can say it to pump yourselves up, but I don't think it's definite. I think you're like, yep, that is true. Like, we did fight back and that's good. I guess, I think it actually hinges on that fourth goal. If it got three, three, I think my spin is completely. I totally agree.

The four three, like, but the fact that you took the lead in the third, I'm like, you got to win now. Yep. And that, and the three one is so tough. But dude, this is another one, like just like Philly. I know there's a lot of pressure. And now it's like, oh, there's more home games in Vegas. but I'm like, dude, do you feel, if you are a mammoth fan,

do you feel like you can't beat Vegas anywhere? Like, you aren't going, oh, no, we're going to play two in Vegas. I'm like, who does the fuck? Just beat them wherever you are. It doesn't matter. 100%. By the way, who didn't, did they finish with more points than Vegas? Like, probably, right?

Oh, yeah, they might have. You know, I'm like, do Vegas stinks. The entire Pacific stinks. Pacific is so gnarly. It's crazy. But, yeah, I mean, zero regulation losses in Delta Center. still. This Vegas team, as we said in the beginning of the series, I think, or excuse me, this Utah team has every single ability to take care of this Vegas team. Mammoth 92, Vegas 95.

Mammoth 43 wins, though. Vegas 39. You know what I mean? It's a dog fight. That's a dog fight. These are two very even teams. I think, I go was great. Are we just playing the game here? This is great. Hell yes, dude. That's gas. Look at that. Bang. fucking great stuff scorer yeah i thought ica was great we had said uh i guess i i just no go on i've got something to say about jack we will we had said uh last episode that he's one of the best players alive and but sometimes i'm like dude i just need you to like do everything sometimes where i'm like what is happening

and it's never totally his game that he's going to go full like mac david and to end rush i mean that's nobody's game but mac david but you know what i'm saying it's just it's not exactly in his bag he just impacts the game in so many ways that hockey fans, you notice. And I do think he had that game today, including two or three assists, including two or three assists, including the overtime, winning assists. Yeah. His ozone possession is insane.

He has that Quinn Hughes element to him where it's like, even if it's 5V5, when he has the puck, players just back off. Yeah, and it feels like they're on a power play. It's really impressive. But the thing of I will say about Jack, and I'll say this right to Jack, I'm looking at you, buddy, I need you to score. Yep. I need you to shoot the puck.

Marner, too. It's like the fact that we're through four games and these guys don't have a bunch of goals going. I'm like, you two fuckers are so good. If I'm a Vegas fan, I'm losing my mind at the two of them with sometimes when they're not shooting. Someone needs to shoot on this team. And this is two episodes in a row that I'm saying this. And it's like, I need one of these guys to just take over and be like this. I'm going to score goals.

But it's isn't, don't you feel like, I'm just trying to see how many he had this year, 27. See, 31, two years ago, then 28 and 27. 31 and 63 that that was nice Yeah He You're right But it's also It feels impossible to change now

I'm like you've had to fucking All year To be like somebody shoot and no one's going to You think so? To be like hey shoot it I feel like those two are so good That I'm like this go out and shoot today Yeah fuck

I mean that's ridiculous Chris It's ridiculous to say that an NHL player Of their abilities Just can't go out and be like this Shoot I'm getting fucking 10 shots on net today Yep Just do it

See what happens How many times did you see Eichel with the puck down, like on the below the dot? Slinking up and has, it's not the best angle shot, but he could throw one on net. Dude, especially, man, because, and I just said this in the last series, look at the Sanheim goal where he just has it in the corner, fires it, it grazes Carlson stick, changes the angle on Chilab, goes in off the post. Yeah. Just fire these poxs on net.

Look at the cold goal. Yeah. Shot from the point. Fucking Howlitzer, off the bar and in. It's just like throw pucks at the net. Low pucks on net. They hit bodies. They create rebounds.

I think Jack and Marner in a way get obsessed with making a perfect play because they have that ability. Few people on earth have the ability to make the perfect play like they do. And they go, Jack especially goes, the longer I have the puck on my stick, the more chances, the more time there is for somebody to get open and then me to do something special. And then we will score. And the more I have the puck, the better of the Vegas goal than nights are. But I am kind of like, just rip it.

Yeah. Just fucking rip it, dude. Yes. And it would behoove them. But, I mean, they scored five. They scored four in regulation. Like, they're... No, listen, great game for me.

I mean, you... A little bit of puk, a little bit of spittle on the shirt. But you pulled it together and you won, for sure. And that is a... I mean, dude, we prematurely called them dead yesterday. Yep. And if they had gone up 3-0 in this game and coughed that lead up and lost... Oh, then I...

Melia... This series was over in five. No question. The practice they had, Torts had Carter Hart out taking the number one reps. Somebody, I think it was actually maybe even Steve Levy, or maybe it was a different reporter, but somebody said, oh, have you made a decision? I thought we saw a heart taking those reps, and Torts cut him off, and was like, it's 100% Carter Heart, this isn't even a conversation.

And then Steve Levy went up to him and was like, man, Torts, a few other coaches, I'm not saying would have done a goalie change, but it certainly would have been a conversation. the way you're talking, it didn't even cross your mind. And Torts kind of cut him off too. It was like, did not even cross her mind.

He's playing incredible. I've seen him. The way he's playing in practice is incredible. We're all good. Yeah. And he also said, I know this kid and he steps up in moments like this.

And when it was three nothing, I was like, damn, Torts, good call. Like here comes to Carter Hart shut out and Vegas is going to roll. And then Utah gets four, four late.

And I was like, oh man, and clearly the way Torts is talking, it's Carter Hearts is net. But I am now, all of a sudden being like, ooh, the goalie issue might be the death of Vegas. Because the way he played under Torts his eight games or whatever,

the way he played to start the series. I'm like, man, dude, Vegas scary. Vegas scary if they have a goalie who's going to give them this. And now I'm like, can you outscore the mammoth with Carter Hart playing the way he is? I'm not sure. Yeah, it's, listen, that was going to be my next point to bring up. And I've said a bunch of times I just don't know about Vegas's goal.

Yeah. It's so funny to look back. they won the cup, they won with playing three, four goalies throughout the entire LT? I don't know. I can't remember. I think it was LT. And then it was LB. Then it was LB.

Then it was Hill. Quicky was playing during the season. He didn't even get in. It was fucking mental. So it's like even when they won the cup, they did not have a goalie that was their goalie from start to finish. They do right now if they're going to go the distance. And the question I keep having is, is he good enough?

I'm not sure. Yeah. that game started to look pretty good, then started to look pretty bad. So we have three games now. I actually love, we've been stroken off Dallas, Minnesota, and this series is incredible as well. Yeah. And kind of under the radar, incredible.

And now we have a very interesting situation in that we have three games here where I don't think anyone can tell me what to expect from this series. I know. I don't think anyone can tell me, oh, Veggie's going to have an unbelievable game. in game five. Hart's going to have an unbelievable game in game five. There's so many

question marks about this series. So I think I'm giving it a stamp of must watch. Because it's like, I don't know what the fuck is going to happen. So here we go. It's interesting to me that every team that has a guy

and actually, you know I'll circle back to that. Every team that has a guy, sway, Vasi, whatever, there's no real goalie change conversation. Do you know what I'm saying? No one's going, oh my God, I wonder if Corpie gets game five. I wonder if, I don't even know what the lightning's backup is. You know, that's the situation on those teams.

On the teams that do have goalie coin flips, most of them we've seen do it. Buffalo has made a goalie change. Pittsburgh has made a goalie change. Edmonton has made a goalie change, right? And I would say that Vegas should have, should have qualified as a team that is coin flip goalie.

When you look at them, you go, I don't know. So they're kind of the only team that goes, this could have been either one that has refused to do that. Every other team that goes, this could have been either one has already been like, yo, we're going to try something else.

And I guess that's a torts thing, and that's fine. But I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been any hill movement. And I bet if they had lost this game 5'4, there might have been. Are you furious if you're Aiden Hill? Yes.

Because, dude, keep in mind, Aiden Hill, and every goalie's like this, every pitcher is like this. You know, you want the ball, you want the ball. Aidan Hill is a guy who passionately believes he should be Team Canada's goal. Yes. Right? Like, he's like, I can't believe I wasn't starting at Four Nations, and I can't believe I'm not there at the Olympics. And granted, he was hurt and whatever. But this is a guy who believes he should be Team Canada's goalie,

and he's not even playing on his own fucking team. Yeah, he's healthy right now and is like, I should be starting. Yep. This would be a sweep if I were starting. Yeah. And he's like, now we might lose. Yeah. So, yeah.

But I have no issue with that. I want that. Yeah, you do you need that. He's also a guy who loves his goalie room. Like he has done nothing but support every goal he's been with, including on those Canada teams when he's like, okay. Yeah. Like I got this.

I'm behind you. He's not making waves, but he's correctly and competitively wanting that net. Yeah. But yeah, he wants a bid right now badly. Yeah. Badly. All right. Well, two, two, two.

in that series going to be an insane game five because we have no idea what's going to happen. Let's get into the games tonight. First up, we've got Boston Buffalo 4.30 p.m. Pacific time, 7.30 Eastern Time. Boston is up against it. They are. They sure are. I am, I'm delusional in this series. Yep. And I've already said, so I don't you say it again, I love this Buffalo team so much. Once they put the Bruins out to pasture, I will be so happy for the Sabres, and I want them to go on a long run because they deserve it. The city deserves it. That would be incredible. And I don't think I need to apologize, but I definitely think they answered the bell in terms of

any playoff. Oh, can they handle playoffs? Absolutely. Everything they were doing in the regular season has already translated, and that is fucking awesome. I stand by, and this is probably where I'm delusional, I stand by this Bruins team is constructed in a way that can, that could beat this Buffalo team in a playoff series. I think the Buffalo Sabres, we're going to finish better than them in the regular season, but in a playoff series, this Bruins team can win. And I just still think that after Sway ripping their heads off in game four, the boys go, yo, we need to be better. And they can steal this win. That's what I think. I

if I'm a betting man and I am I'm betting on the Bruins tonight oh really I thought you were going the other way I think well there's a couple things we are from the Boston area we have a lot of Boston friends back home

and we're on a lot of group chats and during game four the group chats we're going crazy I I don't know what grain alcohol. Boston Bruins fans were drinking heading into these playoffs. But dude, this Buffalo team is very good.

Yep. They won the Atlantic. They were the best team in hockey, the second half of the season. More than that. Since December 9th. Yeah. The Bruins are so far ahead of schedule in this retool. Uh-huh.

What Sweeney did. bringing in some of these new guys, some of the young guys stepping up. It's amazing. It's been so fun to watch. And we kind of predicted the Bruins to be a bubble playoff team all year long, and I predicted them to maybe just miss the playoffs.

They just made the playoffs, which is fucking helliest. Awesome. So fun. But I feel like people are forgetting that they have been a wildcard team all season long. Yep.

Like the Bruins are one of the more unique teams this season. in that whereas Carolina was top of the Met all year long and just stayed top of the league all year long, the Bruins were right where they were. Like this is the Bruins team. So the only thing going into this series was, is it going to be a goalie battle

because UPL and Lion aren't necessarily blue-chip goalies and neither one of them has shown that they are the guy yet? And is Buffalo going to be stunned by playoff hockey because they've not been there for a long time? Yep. The battle back in game one, to me, silenced the latter question, okay? Are they going to be able to handle playoffs? In game one, they showed that even went down two nothing late in the third,

yes, they can handle playoff hockey. So that's gone. The next is the goalie question. Sway has been the best player in this series, in my opinion. And he got fucking hung out to dry in game four by his team. He let him hear it. But it's this funny narrative of like, Fuck in the Bruins.

They should be winning this series. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Well, yeah. I mean, the Bruins assuredly should have won both in Buffalo. And so it should be 2-2 and we should be going, wow. I said the double road switch. Like, that's crazy. I still disagree with that.

Like, they should have won that game. If you think the mammoth should have won the game last night, the Bruins should have won game. But my point is, dude, everyone is going, everyone is acting like that game was fucking night night over. they were up to nothing. And after their two goals, they didn't do shit. They weren't threatening.

They were hanging on. They were hanging on. And then one of the best offenses in the East scored two goals. And it's like, yeah, but what I'm saying is like they tied it. And it's like, okay, what do we do now? You give up another goal. Yeah. So it's like, yes, was that a collapse for sure?

And after game two, when it felt like you emphatically, you got another big lead to start, but then you give up two goals again. you're like, oh, man, we should have won game one, and then we definitely won game two. Then you get fucking beat, like, not handily as like in game four, but in game three, Buffalo won that game from top to bottom. Yep.

They were the better team, the whole fucking game. Correct. And then they beat the piss out of you in game four. So the people being like, we should be winning this series. Nope. The only thing I'll hear is maybe you could be tied if you didn't fall apart in the end of the first game. But when you really look at it, dude, Buffalo has been the better team for way longer in this series. And that I include game one.

There were so many stretches in game one where Buffalo was better and it was just a zero zero. Yeah, I'll hear that. I think I'm slightly less, but I hear what you're saying. It is not even debatable. Who has been the better team for more minutes in this series? Yeah, it's the Sabers. It is easily the Sabres. Yeah, I think you just go, we beat the Sabers three out of four.

games in the regular season, we have the better goalie. Yes. And we can hang in playoffs by scoring. We got pasta. We got geeky. We can score some power play goals. That's the whole attitude. I think any Bruins fans that were being like, we're going to roll on the Sabres.

We're drinking grain alcohol for sure. Yeah. Because I said bees in seven. I wasn't like, oh my God. And now I'm sabers in six. Like I do think the bees can win tonight. Yeah. But then I just, I'm like, ah, the Sabers, the Sabers aren't scared to go into Boston.

Like, this doesn't matter. They'll just, yeah. They'll take. So, so let's go. of that. I said if I were a betting man, I would say that Boston wins tonight. I think Sway is so pissed about that last game that he is going to lock the fuck in. And I do think you have great players and great leaders on this team, starting with Charlie McAvoy, who heard that beak job from Sway. And, I mean, he answered the bell in the locker. He was like, if we're not embarrassed by that,

I don't know what the fuck to tell. I think he is going to lead the charge on this team being like, if we don't fucking lock down and lay down in front of Pucks tonight and get a win for Sway, and get back on track, everyone in here is getting fucking lashes. Yeah, so let's go. And not to mention, dude, it's going to be lying again, and no offense,

but I'm like, dude, score on the backup to a backup goalie. Like, what is going on? Yeah. And that's the way, I'm like,

the Bruins could lose this game 2-1 with another masterclass Sway performance. Yeah. Like, Sway could lock the fucking, give up two on 40 shots and still fucking lose.

Yes. Because the Bruins are like, yeah, we got one on the Pollux line. Do you think pasta needs to get it going a little bit more here. Yes. I said this other episode.

Hurley, how many points does pasta have right now in playoffs? David Posternak. How many, playoff points? I can tell you. He had a great season. 100 points? But 100 points, again, fourth year in a row.

Unbelievable. But I'm just like, you are, it's like when Austin Matthews isn't scoring. And they're like, well, he's doing it. He's winning draws. And I'm like, I don't give a lot. Don't care. Don't care. You have to fucking score goals.

You are David Posternack, you have to score. And we're going to lose. And that's a lot of pressure, but that's them the breaks, dude. So he has to do a little more. He has to do a little more. And that's it. No, you can interrupt whenever. Oh, I did not.

And would you want playoffs? Yeah, just playoff. His career. No, no, right now this series. Oh, oh, oh. Like, does he have one goal and three assists? Does he have, you know, like, what does he have? I can try to find that.

Boom, boom, boom. He has, Dan. Oh, C.P's on it. CPs on it. He has five points. And in game one, he had a goal in two assists for three in the four three loss. In game two, he had two apples in the four to win. So that's it.

And then goose goose. I need more from pasta at home. Goose goose at home. I need more from pasta. Same. I mean, five points in four games, though. Five points in four games. But it's weird, though, you know what I mean?

Isn't that one of those things, though, where, like, I, I, it's another one. Did he have 29 goals this year? Did he do? 21, I think. No. There's no way he had fucking 79 assists. Yeah, 71 assists here.

So he had like 29 goals this year. Like, that's a 50 goal guy, brother. Yeah. You only scored 29 this year. I know geeky was buzzing. Here's a question. Here we are in the playoffs. I actually think pasta has been given shit many times by Bruins fans about his

playoff performances, and I think that's bullshit. I think he's a great playoff performer. Isn't he point per game in his playoff career? He is just under. 92 points in 94 games. Yeah, like that is a playoff performer, man. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, and he's had some good ones.

But I do need him to score. Like, he needs to get goals if Boston is going to win. Yeah, I'm completely and totally with you. And he's, his 50 goal number, Dan is like the Cole Coffield, formerly the Cole Cofield 40, because pasta has only ever scored in the 40s, except for one time he scored 61, which was epic. Yeah. But I'm like,

I'm like, 50 goal guy, and he's like, I've literally never done that. Yeah. I'm like, okay. Shifting it to Buffalo. Yep.

Where are you at right now? Are you laughing if you're Buffalo? Oh yeah. Dude, you're golden. You're fucking, dude, you go, we're dope. And I hope I handle this tonight.

Even though I, we just debated this, I like the play every night. I don't want the rest. But ignore that for a second. Yeah. You go, handle this shit tonight. Fucking let Montreal and Tampa

kick the shit out of each other. We are fucking golden. And by the way, we're going to beat them. Like, we don't give a fuck. I agree. Like, I think they feel great. We got that Byram highlights right now.

Byram, I mean, that is my guy, dude. Yeah. He's been my guy since Colorado. Yeah, yeah. And he is red-hot for this team. I think you want Tage going a little bit more. Me too. But he's doing shit.

He's scoring goals, scored two goals in the first game. He's awake. Yes, he is. I think Tucky is doing exactly what you need. I think Tage, since game one, And like if Tage comes out and scores tonight, I think you're like, oh boy, we are like we're winning this game. If you're Buffalo, I think this whole fucking, weirdly enough, top of the Atlantic, because you've made the playoffs, like, I think this whole fucking series is House Month. I think at this point, if you lose the series, bad, be bad.

You're up three one. You can't, I'm sorry. If you're up three one, you can't lose the series. But if you lose tonight, I don't think you care. I agree with that. Because Boston has shown fight. They're a good team. And especially after what happened last night,

you expect Boston to come out with a lot of piss and vinegar. So if you lose tonight, even on home ice, you're not freaking out, which I think is just a great feeling. Like, I think Buffalo is just fucking riding on vibes right now. They are.

And now they're drunk on a second round appearance. Yeah. Like they haven't in playoffs in 30 fucking years, and now they're like, is we're going around two? It's unbelievable. Yeah, I think you are. Yeah, I think you are.

That's fucking dope. So huge, huge shit for Buffalo. I mean, this is just a game that they're happy to be like, Listen, Boston's going to come out strong tonight. We lose, we lose. We'll go back to Boston and see if we can take care of business there. Dallas, Minnesota.

Pivotal, Pivotal Game 5. Pivotal Game 5. It's the best series in the playoffs, and it's not close for me. 5 p.m. Pacific time. Oh, did we get Pee-P. Wack? 8 p.m. What do you mean? Oh, I think we got Pee-Packed.

That's okay. Oh, we got suspended. We got suspended because we were playing highlights. Can they still hear us or? Okay. Okay. Okay. Sick. All right.

I don't know. It looks like we're still live on Twitter. Oh, okay. Hell yeah. Yes. Well, I think we keep going. We got pee-wacked, Evan. Yeah.

We got horny. We got a little horny. I think we're still up, though, on something or no? We're up on Twitter. I think we're up on Twitter. All right. We're going to say go. going on Twitter here.

So let's, I mean, it looks like the chat's still buzzing. Yeah, I think so. Okay. Yeah. Guys, if you want a video, go check us out on Twitter. We're up with video on Twitter. And still audio, I think, here. Yeah, you can still hear us.

I think, I think. Okay, so Dallas, Minnesota, best series in the playoffs. Pivotal Game 5. This is a funny one. What do you think would have to happen, Dan? I guess it's actually too late at this point. the chat goes the dentist Wong found you and it's true dude Michael Wong

that is awesome report reports us to YouTube that is awesome The it's the dentist dude it's Wong Come on How to fight hey how to fight Folks little fight just like bit God we're back we're back We are so back holy shit

Boldie Glazer in the chat we are so fucking back Holy shit dude that's how you go That's how you go yeah i would dude fuck that was such an opportunity to come back and be in different outfits like i needed that to come back and me being something completely different and have them be like what the fuck dude yeah like that god that's such a miss next time we get slapped for highlights i'm changing my fucking shirt um all right dallas

dallas minnesota little fight that was huge guys i was going to say what would have to happen for them to ever go to gus and net but i honestly think that ship has sailed in this series like i think it's too late to be like what what the fuck are people talking about like waltzed made fucking 49 saves the other day. He's been incredible. Why would you ever go Why would you even bring that up? Because I told you I was going to circle back to of the teams that had a coin flip holy. Every team

has made a shift except for who were we just talking about? Except for Vegas and I was going to go and Minnesota and I was like you know what I'll just come back to this way. Which is tough because that's a coin flip goalie where I believe both goalies are blue chip goals. Yes which is funny. So I'm like you're talking about all these other guys like their backups. Those two

are fucking blue chip goals. Right and in the way they used Gus down the stretch, I'm actually shocked It wasn't... Do you have any idea, Chris, how much validation I feel. During the deadline, I kept saying, if I'm Garan, I'm trading Gustafsson for something. And fucking Elliot. And Elliot, I love you. This is not shaded Elliot.

This is Elliot reporting what he was hearing. He was being like, if they trade any goaltender, it's Walstead. Cut to Olympics. And Walstead is like playing for Sweden. Yeah. and I know Gustafson played as well but now cut two playoffs and Walshed is your starter and I'm like

What? Yeah he ain't going nowhere What were all of you talking about? Like Wollstead is the guy Yep so that's been incredible This one I guess I don't need to get into this Because we said this last time but the emotional swings In this series of who I think is the better team And more deserving is chaotic

Yeah neither team is out we've seen both teams come back These you stamped You stamped Utah Vegas must watch This is the most must watch series And as much as it pains me to say this dude Because I really do dislike the playoff format I got no issue With the purpose of it

Yeah I just would prefer personally I'd prefer a 1 8 But I mean you know me I'd prefer a 116 Legitimately But It does This series is a gift And it sucks 100%

It sucks that someone has to hang their hat on We Lost in the first round Yeah Both of these six six fans, deserved at least second round playoff runs because playoff runs

are fun dude as a fan you're like when your team gets knocked out you're like shit every other night I had something to do at night with my friends we go get beers

like whatever when your team gets knocked out it fucking sucks these cities these fan bases deserved a longer playoff run both of them

and one of them isn't going to get it but this series is still a gift that we get to watch this tilt in the first round I'm like holy shit

after that game 4-0-2 when Matt Boldie, I tweeted out, Lord, thank you for the Dallas Stars and the Minnesota Wild. What's interesting is, like, there is, there's some bad blood between these two teams. It's not as visceral as pit-filly. Yeah. And it's, but we're getting, you know, we're getting great action. Like, we've got fucking nasty hits from Jamie Ben.

We've got good chirping going on. But more than anything, there's just such. good hockey. Yeah. It is remarkable watching both of these teams. We've talked about how Minnesota's power play has not been that good. But even when they're not scoring, it is delightful to watch them on the power play. Like they went 0 for four in game four again and somehow won that game.

But it's a work of art. I'll tell you, dude, if I'm Dallas, if Minnesota's power play gets going, I'm fucking, yeah, I'm scared. Think about it. They, what, like Jesus Christ, man, in these series, let me look at this. They were 0 for 4 in game 4 and then let me find...

I think it's a 1. I think it's a 1 for a lot. 1 for 7. I think in the game 3 they were 1 for 7. Nice job. Nice job, Chris. 1 for 7, good job, Chris. And in game 2

I think was it 0 for 4 again? Yes. That's a job by me. Yep. So they are... Do that quick math. What was it, 474? Yep.

Good job. And one? One for 15. One for 15. And you're two two. Yeah. And that doesn't even count game one. I think they might have been an O-for in game one as well.

God, that would be crazy because they won six one. I might as well find it. I'm doing all the research. Why not go and fucking find game one, Dan? Here is the, I guess my question to you. They were two for four in that six-one win. So they're three for 19. That is so bad.

Yep. Yeah, it is. Who is upset more if you lose this series, in your opinion? It has to be Dallas. I agree. It has to be Dallas, not because Dallas is so much better. Dallas was better all year long. Yep.

They finished the year better. It has to be Dallas because for the last three years, Dallas has lost before they felt that they should have. Yep. Like they're like, how are we not getting? close. And they just get to the conference finals and they lose and they're disappointed. Like last year, forgive me, but like the train of the Oilers, that Dallas team was better than that Oilers team. That was an unthinkable loss. It was pathetic. And they got murdered. And remember that first game, it was just like, it looked like you were going to be pathetic idiots and then you

battled back in one and it was like, oh, maybe they learned their lesson. And then they were pathetic idiots. You just can't be pathetic idiots again. And this year truly has felt all year long, even with how good Colorado is, but when it looked like you were going to get Minnesota in round one and at least make it to round two if you can beat them, and then face Colorado, it was like, all right, guys,

like you cannot fucking lose this year. Yeah. And if you lose in the first round and don't even get a shot at Colorado, you feel like assholes. Who, what happened in the Central last year? Because Minnesota was a wild card team,

which is why they got Vegas in the first round. Dallas and Colorado played in the first round. Yeah, wasn't it Colorado was a wild card? Because like something happened, like people were hurt and they were like weird all year. Is that true? I think that's what happened because Minnesota didn't win the Central. They were a wildcar team. Yeah, because they played Vegas.

Yes. And what, Dallas won the Central? I think Dallas won the Central. And caught Colorado wild card. Yes. Okay, that's fucking crazy But chat Is that what happened?

I think that's what happened Because my point was going to be Dallas Should have lost Last year in the first round To Colorado Yeah, it gave down to nothing And then they get, I'm just saying in that game

Oh That game was over And then Moose scored a hat trick with five minutes Yeah, like you had lost And then you get to go on this nice run But you were this fucking close To just being out in the first round like I thought they should have been.

So yes, they will be fuming mad if it doesn't break their way this year. Yeah. Do you give them any of a pass with no hints, which is so massive? Absolutely. And no Sagan. Yeah. I mean, what am I looking at? Just speak.

You can speak whatever you want. All right. I was going to speak. I was trying to let Dano know that they weren't a wild card team last year. They weren't. They weren't. Okay. So we got to figure out what the past.

But it was close. It was a game seven. They played the star. There was that whole intense day. Yeah, yeah. How did the fucking division finish, though? Just find that out, Chris. I'm going to look right now.

Are we forgetting someone in the Central, like idiots that won the Central? Like, who won the Central last year? Oh, yeah. That's hilarious. Oh, Winnipeg. They went up the President's trophy. Yeah. What are we talking about?

I didn't even need to see it. Winnipeg. Yeah. Yeah, so Dallas, Colorado, 2.3. Yeah. That's what it was. 2-3, Dallas Colorado. Because Winnipeg was a wag.

So they're in the same situation, and it's like another two, three tilt, and this could break the wrong way for you. But I think no, because no Zuccarello on the other side, I don't mean to say the Minnesota is firing on all cylinders, but no HINC's is a little bit worse than no Zuccarello. Yeah, I agree. Do you see Zook is skating, though? Yeah, and Hince feels like not close. Yeah. So that is huge. If Zuccarello finds his way back into this lineup, that's going to be.

And we're talking about the power play, dude. Yep. That might change things. Minnesota and six. It does feel like, dude, it's possible. Somebody said in the chat, I won't be able to find it if I scroll back, but somebody said... Thank you. Yeah, everyone in the chat, by the way, James Boldie, everyone being like...

Winnipeg. Yes, yes, yes, sorry, it was Jets. Fuck, I can't find it. But somebody said must win for Dallas. And obviously, any team can win any game in this series. But I hear their point where you go, you certainly don't want to lose this game and then go to Minnesota, down three, two, with them a chance to pose up. Yeah, I agree.

I don't think so either. And I talked a lot about on the story after that game four. I thought that was such an important game for Minnesota. Winning that game. Oh, dude, yeah, 100%. Winning that game on your home ice, but also it showed the fight. Little fight. It showed everyone talking about, is this Minnesota team different?

Because they were down. And I think that showed they are different. I was like, that was them being like this, yes, we are, dude. We can't answer the bell. So, not a bustman for Dallas, but I think this is an absolute tilt. And Dan, I actually think, and this is a lot of pressure for these guys, but this currently, to me, feels like which goalie cracks first loses. Right now, both goalies have really held serve with these incredible games.

Boom, boom, boom. And maybe, maybe, they both do it for three more games. And we're going to get three more OTs and it's awesome. But if one of them doesn't hold serve, if one of them has a dud, they are going to lose in your team. is going to lose. I was trying not to interrupt you because I was about to say, I don't think either cracks. I hope not.

I think that these are, I mean, you could make the argument that all or crack in game one. Sure. But I don't think either of these goalies are going to crack aren't going to be the reason that either team loses. I think these are just going to be great games for three more games. I think this is going seven.

It's going to be incredible. I think it's worse for Dallas if they lose. Yep. But Minnesota, what's happening in the chat, dude. Nothing. Oh.

Well, someone says, is this our new MG Netters producer. This is number 13. And we're going for 20 by the end

of playoffs. Dr. Watkins is tied up in the back room where we keep all the other ones. Yeah, dude, this is just the fucking fucking...

And he's being handb, bottle-fed water out of the fucking hamster wheel. People are unaware at the company that we've got

a fucking squad now. Dude, actually, Hurles, let Hurles get up for one second. Slide into camera. Hyls. Here's what people,

here's what people really don't fucking understand. What's up, chat? Hurls, for all the fans that have seen them watch us for a long time, every time we were in Boston in that sick studio. It was with Hurls. And people don't even fucking realize that. And then we dragged him all the way across the country and he works here now.

We literally moved his ass to California. I've been falling you around since day one. That's what I'm saying, dude. That's why we have a fucking dream team. What was that place above the studio that we would have beers at after? Like we'd record and then we'd go up. Guy Fietti's, yeah. Tequila, Cochina.

Did you hear that as gag? Did you hear that pro pronunciation on Fiatia? by the way. That was fucking awesome. That was fucking good. That's all time, dude. We've got to go back there. So anyway, I was saying I do think it's worse for Dallas if they lose.

But if Minnesota loses, they are fully the Minnesota Leafs. Yes, they are. Like, we've been talking about this for years now. But like, it sucks that you have to play this good of a team in round one. But if you lose again in round one, you are the Minnesota Leafs. Yeah, correct. So, Ducks Oilers. Last one tonight.

Unbelievable. What do you think? I think. Like my instincts tell me that the Oilers win this game by a billion goals because they're like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. But the Ducks ban have just not seemed to care that they're the Oilers.

Maybe they don't know. Maybe they don't know they're playing the Oilers. Is that possible? I don't know, dude. Like this, it's, listen, it's beer league hockey. And I would say that, Chris. but in game four down to one the oilers go up to nothing

and in watching that was that in the first period two it was I was watching that and I was like oh here we go again yeah seven seven nothing and I don't mean that in a bad way I just meant for like for the ducks you're just like this oh yeah

just the oilers this is what they do but this this ducks team is just drunk I think because they they just don't know what's happening really there's beers on the bench yeah pre-game beers they just tie it. Yeah.

And then the oilers go up and they tie it again. And I'm starting to think, Chris, that this Ducky's team is drunk enough that they could just keep doing this. Yeah, they are. They're just going to keep scoring. That's what I've learned. And ultimately, even though it's like,

I think Dostall is such a good goaltender and he's just like not. He's been leaky, dude. He gives up three or four goals a game. And it's the oilers. So like, I think they're all just going to keep scoring. And I just think the duckies are, they could just do it.

Do you go Jari or do you go Ingram? I don't think it matters. It probably doesn't, but what would you do? Probably Jari. Really? Okay. I just think I was like, I might go Ingram, but, because Jari wasn't bad, but I guess like kind of neither was Ingram.

Ingram wasn't really seeing them though in game three. Maybe that's my argument where I'm like, dude, some of those floaters from the blue line, we just got to locate more and Jari was maybe locating. So yeah, maybe you go Jari, but tough, tough situation, tough choice. Cannot believe, frankly, Dan, cannot believe those are the choices. Cannot believe those are the choices? Where's John Luke? What is nuts, Chris, is the fact that this is 3-1, it's crazy.

It's insane. And you were officially at the point where Ducks, are you about to lose three straight games? If there is a team in these playoffs that can win three straight games, after being down 3-1 and win the series, it is this Oilers team. There's no question about that. If you look at, is it only one? Or I guess I'll go back in time a little bit.

Philly up 3-1 over Pitt, Anaheim up 3-1 over Edmonton, Buffalo up 3-1 over Boston. If you had said, who can come back? It is the Oilers by a mile. By a mile. By a mile. I'm like, oh, the Oilers could win.

And Pittsburgh is in trouble. Boston is in trouble. And Chris, I'll go even further as to say, take any series. And any combination of the winning team versus the losing team, I think the only other one is maybe if Colorado had somehow found themselves down 3-1 to the Kings. Yeah. They are that good.

That I'm like, but that wouldn't have happened. Yep. So truly, if Dallas was down 3-1, I'm like, no, you can't because Minnesota's too good. Same with the vice versa. Yes. This is the only one that I'm like, yeah, the Oilers can absolutely do it. I wonder what the odds are. I'm like the Oilers to win the series.

I wonder how not bad they are. I'm actually about to hammer that right now. Put a hundred bucks right now. Yeah, I bet it's like minus 150. But I'm about to hammer right now Edmonton winning this series. Yeah. Like, what are we talking about? Again, I love this Ducks team.

I've loved watching them all season long. And I've loved every game this series. It is, I think Dallas, Minnesota is the best series. But this damn near might be the most entertaining. Yeah. Because it is just weird. It is so fun. We're just watching shinny hockey.

It's fucking crazy. At the Kings game that we were out on Sunday. And listen, I love people finding hockey. I'm all for new hockey fans. Sure. But this wasn't quite an air puck situation. But the people behind me, I heard talking about hockey. And they were like, one of them asked how many periods.

And the other person goes, it's three periods. And then if it's tied here, they do, we'll go to a shootout. And I wanted to be like, that's not what's going to happen. Why didn't you? Because I was just like, you know, I didn't want to bother them. You didn't want to Oscar from the office them and go, well, actually. So no, I did not. But I actually think

the Ducks Oilers games should go to a shootout because it is beautiful. I think they should just go... Just fucking shoot. We're not even going to do the ice. Just fucking three of you shoot and then let's be on our very way.

Man, I mean, this... This is... It's minus 160 for the Oilers to win the series. That is... What a fucking poll by me saying minus 150. That is unbelievable. Oh, my God, dude. That is so funny.

It's fucking crazy, dude. I mean, they're dangerous. They're dangerous, Maverick. I can't believe that. So, Dan, who do you got tonight? The Oilers. They have to win. They have to win tonight.

They have to win at home. Because, I mean, dude, we can get into this in later episodes. But the Connor, that is a real situation. and it only gets hurt by them losing in five. Like if they lose in five to the ducks. Oh, I disagree. I think any loss here. Me too, but it certainly were, if you go, we lost in five.

Yeah, it's worse optically, but like I think, I think that lasts a day or two. And then ultimately, it's just like, did we lose in the first round to the ducks? It's whatever. Yes, we sure. Okay. Jennifer just made a great comment, said, a case of audacity of youth, they don't know, they don't know they're supposed to be worried and they're just playing hockey. And I completely agree.

That's what I said. I don't think they know they're playing the other list. They're like, this is an inter-plod scrimmage. I've never seen these guys. Who are these guys? I think a lot of it is Coach Q, too. Yeah.

I think they've just got a lot of juice here. But I'll tell you what. If I am the Ducks, I want to win tonight badly. I mean, it's the Philly thing, right? Because you lose here. Now you go home and you go, got to have this one.

Yeah. Because we're in a high and we've got to win. I'm not even going to get into the mental game. Because I don't even want to take you down that road. To me, if I'm the Ducks, I want to win tonight badly because we have so much mojo. Yeah. And it's just like, get out there, score that first goal in Rogers, and fucking suck the air out of that building. But, dude, there is no such thing because that building is pumped full of new air.

And then, dude, they come back. You cannot. You cannot. You cannot run the oilways out of the building. You just can't. I mean, we saw them down 3-0 against Florida. And yeah, they showed up every single night in my mind. David with his back against the wall

like holy fuck dude I know I don't know man I just think if the ducks come out and score first tonight no dude there it'll be hard it'll be hard for them to not be like this Jesus Christ dude they're too much McDavid won't let it happen not tonight

I agree he won't let it happen tonight put your mortgage frankly on the ducks or the oilers winning tonight oh Sam says Edmonton is plus 325 to win the series that that must have been That must have been pre-series. Oh, oh, okay.

Plus 325 to win the series. That's great, actually. Get on Ben MGM right now and hammer that. That is actually slightly worse odds than I thought it was going to be. They're respecting the ducks more. They are. Probably as much as they deserve, but I thought they were going to be like, I thought they were going to be like Oilers like plus. I am telling you right now, the second we get off of this, I am putting $100 on the Oilers to win this series.

Oh, my God. That's great action. Okay. Should be a good one. It should be a great one. Okay, we've got a great slate of games tonight. A couple of possible eliminations tonight, too. Yep.

So we've got Boston, Buffalo, 4.30 p.m. Pacific time. Minnesota, Dallas, 5 p.m. Pacific time. Edmonton, Anaheim, 7 p.m. Pacific time. Yeah, Bruins could be golfing. And here's the scary one. The Brewins, you know, the sabers are minus 170 at home to close it out. Oilers minus 175 at home to keep it going. So all eyes on Boston early.

Unbelievable. All right. That's going to do it for this live edition of the MTV Nairs podcast. We'll see you tomorrow. Dial in. Enjoy the game. What am I looking at, Zach? Oh, yeah.

Oh, look at that. Next stream. It's going to be Friday. We are recording super late tonight, so there'll be an episode out in the morning. We're recording super late Wednesday night. So there'll be an episode out, first thing Thursday morning,

so you'll get coverage of all these games, and then Friday live stream. I'm trying to dial up a special guest for you guys. We'll see if I can pull it off. Come on. But we'll see you. You'll hear us the next two mornings and you'll see us right back here on Friday.

I'm going to call in. That'd be gas. From my phone. From the cockpit, Dan's client. It's going to be great. Hell yeah.