Empty Netters Podcast - Utah Makes The Playoffs, McDavid Goes Nuclear, And The USA Owns Hockey | 115

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

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How was your 4th of July, CP? Two years in a row, I've had a wedding on the 4th. And, you know, that's an important weekend to be having weddings on, I got to say. But both of them, we rocked them all. Just like every wedding I've ever been to, we rocked them all. So it was a great time seeing some really good buddies. not enough dogs and burgers consumed.

Interesting. I would say. Because, I mean, it's a wedding. It's a nice meal, and that's all wonderful, and the apps were great. You know, I like my pass-around apps. But I'm just saying not enough dogs and burgers this year. I feel like if you're having a wedding in America on 4th of July, you need to have 4th of July-style foods as part of your pass-around apps.

That must be a... Because you and I have both kind of changed our tune on 4th of July wedding. or even events on the 4th of July or New Year's, because at least it's a built-in plan, right? Like it gives you something to do no matter what. But you've got to also honor 4th of July by adding 4th of July elements into your celebration. I think that has to be the rule.

American flag paper napkins. Yes. You know, paper plates with red, white, and blue designs on them, wedding food served on those. Yes. Rocket pops. Yes. Go. Keep going.

You know, some kind. Actually, I don't even know what to do with the cake. Maybe it's an American flag sheet cake. You know, instead of going up, we're going wide. I got to start with something right now. I was actually about to just mention corn on the cob. That feels like I feel like corn on the cob is a great Fourth of July. It is. You know, food.

Yeah, passed around corn on, passed around mini cobs. That's not bad. But hold on. With toothpicks. This is what I got to talk about. So I'm over here in England right now. I'm the most unpatriotic fuck of all times. I did 4th of July here in London.

Had a blast. But I understand it was kind of spitting in the face. But what I did was I took some tea and I just poured it into the Thames. Yep. And I just made sure that they knew that this is our day. We still here. I got a bone to pick, dude. I popped on IG because the foamo was tingling, knowing that all of you guys were back east.

Because we say all the time, New England, 4th of July. is unbeatable. Literally best in the world. You cannot beat it. And I saw Zoo posting you guys eating corn on the cob. And I need to know immediately, does that psychopath legitimately just like start in the middle of the cob and then just like figure her way out after that? Literally grabbed the corn on the cob.

No. Went straight to the center. No. And I was like, the fuck are you doing? And then everybody, she was like, what? And then she put it up on IG like a pole to see. And she's like, man, typewriter is really winning the poll. And I was like, I know.

Yeah. You're like, no shit. Yeah. It was like she put up a pole. Like when you go underwater, do you hold your breath or do you breathe in and intentionally drown yourself? And she was like, holding your breath is winning. I was like, yeah, dude. I was literally about to make that same exact comparison because that's how.

crazy the alternative is. If you don't eat typewriter style with corn on the cob, I have no idea what the fuck you're doing. We were here in a wind around. The wagon wheel. The wagon wheel is an interesting move. Because it was a little less, and here's what I liked about it.

The typewriter is very much like I'm rubbing my face across the corn. Yeah, you're getting a lot of butter and salt on my right cheek. Yeah. And the wind around. creates an attack position. Yeah. Where you're not getting any. Yeah.

You might be cleaner. It's cleaner. It's a little weirder, but it's cleaner. Because when I think about it, if you go, you know, first bite, you'll probably get a little bit of lip action. Yeah, yeah. And then you just go, and then that left, my now left side is going to be clean for the rest of the time. Yeah.

That's interesting. That's on. That's all. be the move. No, that's what we were saying. I was like, oh, shit, dude, I've been doing this wrong. We've got to take this to the people. Like, I know, I know she already did it, but we've got to blast this up on netters. Like, is it, is wind around or typewriter the move? Because I hear an argument for both. I honestly, in this conversation, I feel like I might have just swayed to wind up. Yeah. Like, that's pretty legit. The other thing I'll say is, I've never not one touched an ear of corn. No. Like, it gets on my plate. I fucking typewriter it to death and then put it away. and then I begin the rest of my meal.

I'm a big, you know, there are some people with either OCD or autism. What's the difference if you ask me? Who are big like, it's Alan Turing style, dude. You know, the carrots and the peas can't touch. And there are some people who go, I'm going to eat all of this one dish, then move to the next, then move to the next. I'm a big, they're meant to be enjoyed together. So like, you know, if we're talking a Fourth of July meal, let's say I got a burger, I got some potato salad, I got an ear, a corn, I got some watermelon on my plate. My mouth is watering right now. I'm a big, like,

bite of that burger, bite of the potato salad, bite a corn, wash it down with some watermelon. I want all of the flavor pallets in my mouth. Yeah. But I'm with you, like, the, the messiness and the ordeal that corn on the cob is, you got to just smoke it. You got to smoke it, dude. Got to smoke it. Got to smoke and get rid of it. But it sounds like you had a great Fourth of July. That makes me happy. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you poured the tea. That makes me happy. You know, I had to represent.

What was the best pass-round app at the wedding? Uh, buddy. Oh, wow. Something good? A mini lobster roll. No. With a fried, whole-belly clam dolloped on top in the middle. No.

You bitch. Was it held to the lobster roll with a dollop of tartar sauce? Yep. stop it. Yep. God. So I now need to know what were people doing? Were they taking that clam with the tartar, popping it in and then doing the lobster

roll, or were they eating it until they got to the clam and got a lobster and clam bite? So, dude, I did both. I grabbed several. And I was a couple times I was picking the tartar. I was picking the clam. A couple times I one touched it. A couple times I bit around it. And we had options, dude.

And it was special. It was special. Do you think you gasped the most lobster roll? of anyone at the wedding? Yes. And there was also a All You Can Eat Raw Bar

set up shrimp cocks clams, oysters with the hot sauce out dude and I also thought I had the most oysters until I talked to

Tanya Dots' girlfriend. Yes. And apparently she pitched a tent next to the oyster table and did a clean two-dusts and solo.

Tanya just had an oyster shell necklace, like a lay around her neck for the rest of the wedding. It was incredible, bro. It was incredible. Oh, fucking A. Well, hey, I'm upset. I missed the wedding. But I've told all of our fans and listeners and followers that I literally had to put an ocean between us. That's how badly I needed to get the fuck away from you, dude.

Yeah, that's true. And it's been good for us. I miss you. I miss you now. Wow. I, you know, I'll see you soon. And, you know, it's going to be great. but we needed this distance to rekindle the bond because you, your sickness knows no bounds.

Yeah. I imagine you were the last person awake at this wedding. Both nights. Both nights. Oh, dude, you're a despicable man. Well, listen. It's a nice time of year for us. We finally got a little bit of breathing room here.

We had a crazy free agency day that we put out a little video of. If you haven't seen that, head over to the YouTube right now. subscribe and watch that if you want to hear our thoughts on free agency day. But there's there's a lull in the NHL season right now. We've got dev camps going on. Macklin Celebrini's getting bodied up and down the ice in San Jose, but he also looks fantastic. Some new faces are showing up, surprising people.

We've still got a couple of lingerers, free agents, big players, big big players that haven't been signed yet. So we'll keep our eyes on that. But it's a good time to hit everyone with an episode of just some early knee-jerk reaction hot takes, things that we have on the horizon for us for this season. And I've got a few doozies. Yo, me too, buddy. Me too.

I think I want you to start. I think I want you to take us away with what you think are some of your spicy foresight, hot takes, things that you see coming for this season. I got to say, actually, real quick, I'm so sorry. I just teed you up perfectly and then I cut you off. you got to invest in this mic stand dude i'm hands free right now i feel like i can do anything well i've got the guy you know that's what i'm saying you gotta screw it into something dude i feel agile i can do i can give you so many you know i'm physical comedy physical

comedy really physical comedy is home my point yeah but i yeah you're right you're right i was going i was going to fight it but you're right all right number one for me go go baby The Tampa Bay Lightning win the first team out of the playoffs. Participation trophy for being bitches. Are you kidding me? Here's the thing, Dan. They just added Jake Gensel, arguably the best free agent on the market and you're saying they're missing yoffs. Here's the thing, Dan.

Nikita Kuturoff, disgusting. thing, did freak shit last year, 144 points, 100 apples. It was insane. Braden Point, he probably had 50 or something close to 50. Yeah. Vassie. Weapon. Hesie.

All those guys. They're another year older, another year closer to death. Okay? So they maybe don't have the same punch. And dude, I'm looking at that first line. And I said this the other day. I'm looking at that first line. And I don't know if they're going to do this,

but you know, you go to daily lineup, whatever the fuck. Gensel, point, cooch. Yeah. That's a joke. That is a sick, moronic joke. Might be the best top line in the NHL. You got headman back there, you got Vasi, yeah. I think it probably is.

Yeah, that's probably the best line in the league. But after that, dude, they got issues. They got issues. They got issues. They got issues. They're short-changing them, dude. Nope, they got issues. Hagle, Sorrelli, Cam Atkinson, Connor Sheary, Nick Paul.

They got issues. Issues. Okay. And, dude, last year, they've made it pretty comfortably in that first wildcard spot, 98 points. But in the Atlantic, they are not beating Florida, Boston, or Toronto, period. So they're in a wildcard spot again. Okay. I actually give you that. And they're in a wildcard spot again. And then, you know, you got in the Met, New York, Carolina, you expect to be competitive. And then there's just a lot of teams. Jersey, dude. Jersey looks way better. Jersey. And then like, I don't, I know this sounds insane because like, here. we go again, banging our heads against the wall. Yeah. But like Buffalo, where are you at, dude? Detroit, where are you at? Washington's making moves, we said. Washington, dude.

I'll always believe in to a degree. Philly got pretty crazy, freaky naughty. And if the Fed, if the Fed is the real deal in net, then I'm like, there's just a lot of smoke in that wild card. And if Tampa's top heavy, dude, and God forbid, one of them picks up a knock, God forbid, Cooch misses 30 games this year. then you're, you beat, dude, you beat. Yeah.

So I'm going. Tampa Bay picks up a tough knock. They have the best first line. When they're on the ice, they have the best first line in the league by a mile. Yeah. But they pick up a bad knock or two. And Tage Thompson and the boys start figuring it out.

And Tampa misses the playoffs by one point. You just rolled up a Jeffrey and sparked it in my face, and I took a long drag it. I'm actually starting to feel what you're putting out. Go stroke the wall, dude. Go stroke the wall, dude. stroke the furry wall. I hear you on the, if someone gets banged up, it's not looking great. Atkinson's another one of these. Like we talked about Edmonton, right? When we did our winners and

losers of free agency. So many people were like, how are you not bringing up Washington? And I'm like, we did bring up Washington. We gave them a nice shout out. A little honorable mention. I like the moves. A lot of people brought up Edmonton when kind of like late, late rounds, they got, they went out and got Jeff Skinner, which was a big ad, Henry. deal and then Victor Arvinson. Now, what's interesting, dude, is those ads, as much as we are stroking them off, I said Ardvinson and Skinner could have been two of the low-key best pickups of the deadline day. But it hinges on a lot, right?

Like, Ardvinson has been hurt every year of his career. Skinner has been in and out of lineups with injury, so it's dependent on if they're healthy. So when I look at like a Cam Atkinson, you know, finding his way down to Tampa, it's like, yeah, Cam Atkinson playing with these guys could be huge, but is Cam Atkinson's going to be healthy? Is he going to be in a good rhythm? I don't know. The big one for me is the Surga Chav departure.

Like, yeah, that, you know, Hedman signs a four by eight. By the way, how disrespect was that? Dude. When Steve Stamcoe, they're like, we can't afford Steve Stamcoe, sorry, we got to move on here. And he signs a four by eight with Nashville.

And then Victor Hedman, who has a year left on his contract, didn't need to extend signs a four by eight. I was like, oh, my God. This is so, So rude. Thank you for bringing this up because you just reminded me. I didn't even say my last point for my pick here. You must pay for your sins in this life. In this life. Okay. And you don't treat people the way you treated Stephen Stamco's and then have the hockey gods look at you and say, enjoy a long playoff run. I wish you success in the upcoming fiscal year. No. They say, get fucked, you scumbags. You now have to miss the playoffs for a year.

Apologize. And then you guys can be fine next year. I'll pick them to make the playoffs next year. But this year, dude, and in this life, you pay for your sins. There are consequences for your actions. There is no room for error. So they will be missing the playoffs for that act alone. Let alone, forget what's happening on the ice.

For that act alone, they are missing the playoffs. You know what, dude? I don't hate it. I don't hate this at all. it was insane, but I'm now starting to be like, I could see this happening. I could see it shaking out like that. And that would be absolutely wild. Because you're right. I mean, Detroit Buffalo, you know, my sleeper teams last year to make it into the playoffs. I still like Detroit. I, you know, they made some some late moves getting bad Vlad in there with Patty Kane again.

I still think like two older guys isn't really the answer. They, I need some more from them. But, uh, yeah, dude, like this could happen. This could definitely. happen. Are you ready for my first one? Yes. First, let me ask you, Chris, are you fan of the movie Dejaveu starring Denzel Washington? Tremendous film. Tremendous film. Do you like deja vu in general? Because I do. I've never had it. I've been waiting my whole life to have it. I'm going to give you a heavy dose of it right now. Okay. 70 plus point season incoming for one, Trevor Zegris. And I love Trev.

That would make me very happy. I believe in the boy, dude. I believe in the boy. That's all I'm going to say. I believe in the ducks. Big time. I believe in the ducks. I believe in the boy.

I believe in Trev. I think he is a special, special player. I think he's a special, special talent. And I just think after the bullshit last year, holding out, finally signs, comes back after all that nonsense, gets hurt. it's all a shit show, but he's healthy now. They got Cutter Gautier up in the mix. They just drafted Seneca.

I think Troy Terry's going to have a big year. McTavish is going to have a big year. I think Leo's going to have a huge year. And I just, they got these new threads. We got Zegris at the white party, Michael Rubin's white party looking like a snack. Tom Brady there, dude. Tom Brady rubbing off on him. He's posing in all these photos with the.

New Jersey's, the orange pants. Now, I am not going to say that I'm sure just yet that he's not going to get traded. I think that could still happen, which is just kind of insane. I think that there's a... Do you still keep the 70? I do. I honestly almost keep it more if he gets dealt because he's going to be like, you've made a huge mistake giving up on him.

Right. That motivation, dude, yes. One way or another, whether he gets dealt or whether he stays in Anaheim, 70 points incoming for Trevor. I think it's a he's too talented. He's too good to just like fizzle out like this. I think he loves the game. I think he's got a competitive spirit.

And I think he's going to get healthy and get back into a lineup. And I think he's going to fuck shit up. I can't wait for it. I'm thinking how I got eyes on like a 30, 40 year for him. Oh, dude. 30 talks. 40 plus assists. How many points will come lacrosse style?

Goals or aerial passes of the 70. I'm setting the over under at two and a half. Oh, dude, way over. You think way? Way over. People are pretty to it now, though. They're going to be waiting for it. They're going to be like, this kid's going to Michigan every five seconds.

I think he's going to get away from that. And he's going to get back to just snapping pucks on net, labeling corners, good backdoor dishes. It's going to get back to basics, dude. Stick to the basics. Stick to the basics. I think he hits three Michigan's. Oh, my God.

And maybe five to six aerial passes that are batted in by his teammates. I mean. For nine points of the 70, lacrosse. I love that, dude. I mean, like, you're on this train then. And I don't care how the points come, maybe. I just need him to get him. I think, do you think we could see a forehand Michigan?

What? What we, what? A forehand Michigan. Or like a strong side Michigan, I guess I should say. I think, because every Michigan has been. Oh, wait, I get what you're saying like, because they're the sticks upside down. He's always going. Yeah, he's always, they're always going this way.

Yeah, we could. Could he scoop it and strong side, strong side Michigan? I get what you're saying. Like a right-handed shot is coming around the right side of the net. Yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Could it happen?

Yeah. He's the one to do it too. Yeah. Okay. So I'll tag on on this one, dude. I'll take the 70 and I'll throw a sprinkle on a strong side Michigan this year. Oh, God, dude. I like it.

That's just, that will be really nice, dude. Oh, my. I'm just trying to picture it right now. I'm telling you, he is, he is, this is his Jack Hughes, fuck you year. When Jack Hughes came out, had a 99-point season. Biggest bust in NHL history. And then he said, dude, try this one on for size. Exactly.

99 points. He's just going to drop a 70 burger on everyone's head. So many of the haters are going to just be sick, rolling around in bed, absolutely queasy to the point of no return that Trevor Zegrois is back, dude. What's his career high, actually? 61, I believe. 65, dude. 65, there you go.

Dude, 65. He went sick. Like, he barely, you know, he was the first year he didn't play much. And then he went 61, 65, and then didn't play last year, and he was hurt. Exactly. Like he had two fantastic years and people were like, this guy stinks, and then Verbeek wasn't paying him. And then obviously last year was a disaster. That's actually crazy, dude.

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Here's my next one. Go. Two years ago. Oh, my God. Connor McDavid was like, you know, I'm the goat. I'm the best. I'm on Mount Rushmore already. He's done at all.

Done it all, Dan. But they said, he can't score. He can't score like the elite guys. Yeah. They did say that. And he said, hold this athletic greens drink,

because I don't drink beers. My body's a temple. Try 64 toxin for size. Yeah. And what did that get him, Dan? Got him nothing. Got him an exit in the second round. Got him an excellent.

did that lead you back to me back to me dude wait did they lose in the yeah the second round dick kicking by the Vegas golden nights eventual champs so then last year he goes you know what i scored all the goals now that didn't work i got a i got to i got to pass all the goals yeah i got to assist all the goals yeah okay he had to they forced so he goes he goes hundred apples fourth player to ever do it. 30 fucking 2 assists in the playoffs or something. Most assists ever in a playoff run. 44 playoff points, whatever it was.

Where did that get them? A game 7 loss in the finals. I know, brutal. To the obvious Stanley Cup champions. So what do you think he's got to do? So this year, he goes, sometimes you got to do everything. You want something done right. You got to do it yourself.

and it's a combo of that and sometimes I got to do everything. This year, this year, damn, he goes, 100 apples, 50 tucks for 150 points. First time we've seen it since the days of Stevie Y and Connor does them both. He tried goals, he tried apples. Didn't work. And now he goes, what about both? Try both on precise.

And he tries to take the boys right back to the final. I don't, you know what, like, there's a part of me that wants to say you're high. We've been smoking Jeffries all pods so far. Yeah. Now, I sit here just a man watching another man play hockey at an absurd level. And I'd like to tell you that you're being insane. But I look at that slow start that they had this year. And part of me is going, without that slow start, why couldn't he have gotten that 50 goals?

What did he finish this year with? 30-something this past season? 32. You're telling me there aren't 18 goals and that's slow start. And only 76 games, by the way. Remember he missed a little time there? He sure did. This isn't crazy.

This isn't crazy. And like we said, if Skinner and Arbetson come in and they all of a sudden start playing well, they stay healthy, who's to say he doesn't do this? The hundred's easy. The hundred's definitely happening. He might have 110. It's just 50 is insane for you to say. say that.

Do you hear yourself? The 100's easy. You had Skinner. Dude, it might be 120 with Skinner. I didn't, you know, and then, and 125. So the big thing is going to be, can they score enough to make sure he gets the 50? And let me just look at this, Dan. I wonder if this is on here right now.

Yeah, dude. Oh, my God. This is a fucking joke, Dan. Okay. I don't think I'm on hockey reference. I don't think it shows. empty net goals, and I'd like to know how many he had. But, Dan, this year, his 64 year, the year before,

how many power play goals do you think he had? 10. No, 9. 21. Connors had 21 P.P. goals? Yep. This past year, seven. Seven.

Vanished. Sorry, that's what I was guessing this past year. That's my bad. So my nine is pretty good. Yeah. 21 the year before. You know that's going back into the teens. So 50, this is actually pretty getable.

I might have, I might have should have said 60 and 110. But the 50100 is pretty much locked in. I'll chisel that into stone right now. Yeah. I like that move. I mean, dude, I think that there's a chance that the oilers are going to come out absolutely firing here with these new ads. And, uh, I just, I could see this, dude.

50 and 100. 50 and 100 and that gets you an obvious, obvious win, right? Like, of heart, of heart. Oh, dude. No question, he gets the heart. And then does that get him the cup? No, because it's too much, it's too much. It's too much too early.

And I'm sorry, but he's just, he's going to give it everything. And then they get to the playoffs and they had a whole long summer. And it's just, it's hard to, it's hard to be the team that lost. and then win. That's only happened like three times or some shit. Like in recent history. I think Sid was the last squad to do it. Sure.

Against the wings before the Panthers just did it. I'm trying to look at some of these. Stevie Y went 65 and 90 for 155 points. I mean, can you believe that? That's such a year too, dude. That's so balanced. It's like, honestly. 65 and 90.

makes me sweat. It makes me sweat with an intense, like, lust thinking about a player scoring 65 and 90. Like, that's, finished third in heart voting. That's kind of Nate dog vibes, dude. Like, you know, like, obviously he didn't get the 65, but like Nate was so good this year. 50 and 100 in coming, bro. Yeah. I mean, God damn. 50 and 100. Okay. I like it. All right. Here's my next one. This is crazy. I think that the newest team in the NHL, the Utah Hockey Club, no, no. Snags a wild card bid and makes the playoffs in their first year in the NHL. Said what I said.

Hand to God, dude. Said what I said. Said what I said. I think that, because I have had some fun, because I'm hot, I like the coyotes. and now the mammoth. But what I think is funny is I've seen a lot of people be like, I'm pumped, like we got this new expansion team, you know, like, a la Vegas, allah cracking, we got this brand new squad that we've created from a fantasy lineup,

Utah Hockey Club. And I'm like, no, it's the coyotes. I feel like everyone is treating Utah like this new expansion team. but it's quite literally the coyotes. So I think there's some expectations need to be tempered a little bit, but I did like the coyotes last year. So I don't hate this. I don't hate it either.

Listen, here's what I think. Defense wins championships, dude. Defense gets you into the playoffs. And that's what I'm liking. Like we, we liked the coyotes last year.

And I think that they're going to build. They're so young. They have so many young. who star players who are now in this new play. Listen, here's the thing, dude. Sure, they're not playing in a new rank yet, but they are playing in Delta Center. And Delta Center is going to be packed to the gills.

We know that that place is going to be over 100% capacity every single game because those people in Utah, they just know how to pack a barn and they know how to go crazy. So that's what's going to happen. They are going to be there. The players are going to be fired up to play for this new team, got their new sweaters on, which are sick, as we know, even though they're P-Dub jerseys,

They're still sick. And they rebuilt that defense dude. Connor Ingram, low-key, very good goal tender last year. They had a brutal record because the team struggled a bit. But I think Ingram is really solid. I like Famelka in there, backing them up, a little tandem situation. And then they re-sign our boy, Sean Dersy, give him a nice, juicy four-year deal. And then they bring in Sergachev and Marino, dude.

And they have Ian Cole on this team as well. Like, that is solid D. That's a solid defensive core. And you add to that, dude, these guys like Machelli, like Khrfoot, like Lawson Krauss, also our boy had a big year last year. It's only going to get better. And then Nikki Schmaltz and Clayton Keller, that is offensive firepower, dude. And I'll tell you what, dude, twist in the evil man mustache.

We've heard some whispers of some trades that might be going down with this Utah team. Not to mention they just added T. Jigginla. I don't think he's going to be playing next year, but he might. They might add him in a nice little playoff push. towards the end of the season, who knows. But I like it, dude. And I look at that central, and I'm not seeing so many teams

that I think it's impossible for them. Obviously I love Colorado. But dude, Colorado has some question marks, man. Is Nishushchev can play? What's the deal with your captain? What's the deal with Landy? Is he going to be playing? What's their situation in Net?

Dallas. Obviously, great team. People don't love the moves that they made. they lost Tanev. Who knows what's going on with Dallas? Nashville, obviously the big one. Nashville, obviously the big one. They just added huge pieces,

one free agency day. But I'm just saying, there is a chance that fourth seed could be this Utah hockey club. They could steal that last playoff spot, and I fucking love it. Dude, I was ready about to say, let me break your heart real quick,

because when I'm looking at the eight teams that made it from the West, I know it's definitely. And this happens every year, right? Like people fall out that you're shocked by, but the eight teams that made it. Dallas, Winnipeg, Colorado, Vancouver, Edmonton, L.A., Nashville, Vegas.

In my mind, like Vegas, it would be a shocker. Yeah, you like how I just, sorry, keep going. If Vegas, Dallas, Vancouver, Edmonton, Nashville, yeah, didn't make it. It would be a shocker. Shocker. Shocker.

And I didn't even name, Winnipeg and Colorado, and I'll put those two like just one. It'd be a big surprise. I won't say shocker, but I'd say I'd be a big surprise if Winnipeg and Colorado didn't make it. Yeah. Which only leaves the Kings. And I'm like, if the Kings didn't make it, I'd be like, yeah, that sucks. But I don't even want to put that out there in the universe.

Your Utah pick is going to cost you the fucking Kings, bro. I didn't mention them for a reason, dude, because those are my guys. But I'm just saying, don't sleep on Utah hockey club in their inaugural season. That's it. That's all I'm saying. I like it. All right, Dan. Joe Sackick.

Again? Again with the Sackick. Played in the National Hockey League. This guy, again with the Joe Sackick. For 20 years. Okay? Yeah. 20 seasons.

Yeah. How many seasons do you think he had over 100 points? Wow. Joey Sackick. 20 years. 20 years over a Hyundai spot. Give me... A hundred or over, I should say.

Yeah, yeah. Hyundai over. give me give me 12 6 okay I want listen I don't know if you remember

last time we were talking about Joe Sack and we were doing our guessing how many points and we disrespected him and I wouldn't do it again you jaffed him up but dude I would have gone way high too I'm actually stunned by that okay I thought 12 was high but I thought it might have been 10 but six his career high is 120 he had a 102 a 109 a 105

a 120 a 118 10 okay he just live in that the 90s? Kind of, he, not even, bro. I mean, there was like some games, like he wasn't always playing a lot of games is the issue. Like his PPG is great.

Yeah. Just, you know, he wasn't always hitting the game totals. Yeah, he wasn't, he wasn't an 82 guy every time. Yep. But he hit 120 at age 26. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. Hit 118 at age 31. Nothing, nothing, nothing.

And then at age 37. Come on. For the Colorado Avalanche, he goes in 82 games, he goes 36, 64 for 100 burger. Say those numbers again? 36 and 64 for 100 on the dot at age 37. Oh, yeah, dude. I wonder when he got that 100 point. I wonder if it was the last game of the season.

Oh, that is a good question. So the most points ever scored by a player age 37 or older is 100 points by Joe Sackack at that year. Okay. last year, Dan, a one Sydney Crosby at age 36 went for 82 games, 42 tucks, 52 assists for 94 points. Dude, that 42 goals is just so quietly so awesome. Moronic, it's the third highest goal total he's ever had in his career. And his assists were actually down, I would say, based on his standards.

Yeah. I'm telling you at age 37, with the team on his back, dude, with the whole city of Pittsburgh on his back, Sidney Crosby scores 101 points to set the new NHL record for most points scored by a man aged 37 or older. Wow. It's a really interesting, specific record, like 37 years old.

It's not like over 40, so like, cool, that's great. Yeah. But, dude, I don't even think that's a hot take. I got nothing to say. I think Sid is still cooking with. gas. So I think he gets that as well. I also think he looks at what he just did. And he's like, I can do that again. I can do it better. So we'll see. Now, can I just, since I don't really have pushback, can I just roll right into my next one? Sure. Because it has to do with your boy,

Sid. Okay. Yeah. Then do it. Then do it. So my next one, I think Sid will do exactly that. And when he does it, he will not be wearing a Pittsburgh penguin's jersey. Do you like some More deja vu. Do you like more of that deja vu? What do you think about that, baby? Dude, listen, we have said many times that would make both of us very happy. And I love the penguins. Everybody knows I love the penguins.

I just want Sid to be happy. And he deserves to be happy. And he deserves to go to a team who wonders if Nishushchkin is playing. And who wonders, what's happening with their captain? And who wonders, wow, we need to make a playoff push because the Utah mammoth are up my ass. why don't we bring over a guy who's about to go 101 at age 37? Yeah, why not? Why not?

Listen, we're not going to release a clip about this. I don't need more Pittsburgh fans losing their minds. I don't need more Pittsburgh fans having to come into our DMs and say, you guys were right, we weren't going to make the playoffs. You were right all along. This team wasn't good enough to make it into the playoffs. I don't want to do that to them. I wouldn't do that to them.

but I'm not saying anything. I'm not going to ruffle feathers. All I'm going to allude to is I feel that there is a very real chance is what we'll call it, a very real possibility that Sidney Crosby would be open to going somewhere else. Yeah. Because he wants to play play playoff hockey and the Pittsburgh Penguins have failed to deliver that to him the last. two years. And I don't know what is going on in Pittsburgh that would make anyone say to themselves, yeah, we're going to do that this year. Sorry. Any of those moves pump you up? Is there anything

about this Pittsburgh team that makes you go, no, no, now they're going to get in. All these guys are another year older. And now they're closer to death. Yeah. They're even closer to knocking on death store. And now they're going to get into the playoffs. The misconception last year was they couldn't play D or goal tend, and that's not the case. They couldn't score. Sidney Cross was the only guy doing anything. And that's why he's going to have a hundred burger because he's going to be doing that shit for the beginning of the year, putting the team on his back.

And then when he gets moved at the deadline, he'll already have it 80 and he'll just have a nice, clean 20 on the abs to finish it off after he has like 15 power play assist in the first fucking three games. And I'm like, and it's going to be awesome. I think the writing is on the wall for Dubus that it's just, you're not, with this score, you're not winning a cup. And if you're not winning a cup and you can get significant value back for those three gentlemen, in what world would you not move them? Give them another chance at a cup and I don't even want to get, I'm not even going to waste breath on getting into the, like, Sydney Crosby's too classy for that.

It's the dumbest take in the world that has nothing to do with class. him going, it's a good move for me. It's a good move for this team and organization. If you trade me, get a bunch back, and I get to go win a cup again. Because he ain't winning a cup in Pittsburgh. So I just think, yep, he's going to get that 101 on the dot, and he's going to do it wearing a different sweater.

And he's going to look fantastic. Here's my last one. Macklin Celebrini signs his deal. He's a shark. He's officially a shark. Yeah. I know he's getting bodied, but he's also tow dragon. to death in Devcamp.

He's going to be fine. He scores more goals than Bedsy did. Not Bedsy this year. Oh, okay, good caveat. Because I really think Bedsy this year could go 30-something. Yep. With a year under his belt. But Bedsy last year missed 14 games.

It was only 14. I always feel like it was more than that, but he missed 14 games. He scored 22 goals, which is still fucking great. 22 and 68 is like a hell of. of a rookie year. Very worthy called it. But here's the thing, Dan, he went to the bubble too late. He went to bubble bedsy too late. If he had been bubble bedsy the whole season, we might be talking 30, 35, and then

Celebrini's nowhere close. But Celebrini won a Hobie Baker at 17, Dan. Was he wearing a cage or a bubble? Cage. In a cage. Okay? So now he shows up, and he doesn't need no bubble. And he's going to score 23, 24, maybe even 25 goals, Dan, because he's getting PP1 minutes and he's going hard to the net and he's toe dragging people and I think Will Smith's going to come up and start feeding him the puck okay and he's going to be ripping shots maybe not Bedsie level but it's you know what I'm saying he's going to be ripping shots can be making

plays scoring goals the sharks need him to score goals so give me celebrini calder that's not even part of my hot take but give me Celer Kobe Baker right into more goals than Bedsie scored his rookie year at med can we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health From the big milestones to the quiet winds. That's why our annual health assessment offers a physician-led, full-body checkup that provides a clear picture of your health today and may uncover early signs of conditions like heart disease and cancer. The healthier you means more moments to cherish. Take control of your well-being and book an assessment today.

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So that's what I'm saying, dude. Bubble beds he was 22, and then Maddie had 24. How many points seven? 24 and 33 to 57. Just missed it. Fuck. So we go, we go batty 24, call it. Calder. Benz E. 22, Calder.

Oh, he's, I almost took that as my bounce back. I didn't want to double bag him because I bagged him. I bag him coming into this year. Yeah. He's going to have such good year. Uh, Mattie 24 called her. Betsy 22 called her. Celebrini 23 called her. And it's as simple as that.

It's as simple as that. And this is, that's locked in. You know, I like this. I also like the team a little bit more for the San Jose sharks than Chicago had last year. We got Toff there, dude, the power play. going to be bumping in the bumper. Toph is going to be buzzing for them, absolutely. And then, yeah, I think Smitty's going to be so freaking good. So I'm into this. I'm into this in a big way, dude.

I like it. I like it a lot. So how far off of Bedsie do you think he's going to be in next year's total? Is there a chance he beats him out? Oh, oh, no. Because, dude, Bedsie, he's matured. He's up there on stage again this year dude looking so chill he's like yawning I say no you know hey what's up I was first overall we're taking Lev uh give me the fucking I won the call there last night

I don't give a fuck I'm in the most savage fucking burgundy tucks you've ever fucking seen I'm the man I'm gonna and and we got Bertuzi here now who's gonna fucking keep the boys fired up at all times and we're still gonna be

awful and I'm still gonna be minus 35 but I'm also going to have 35 goals. And I heard him say all that. And I was like, yeah, okay, dude, I believe you. So I think he'll have in the 30s comfortably. But I think Celebrini gets 23, which is more than Betsy had last year. Okay. I like this.

Again, I'm not going to, motherfucker you. I'm going to just accept this. I'm going to appreciate this. I like it. My last one, you gave us a little teaser of the top six players announced for all four teams in the Four Nations Cup. Yeah. USA's winning. The whole thing. The whole damn thing.

I don't even think it is. I think they're going to win and they're going to win comfortably. Comfortably. Dude, my only questions. Actually, no, never mind. Because here's what's crazy, bro. There was some projected rosters. Yep.

And I hate them, dude. We're by the way, a little teaser for the listeners right now. One of our episodes coming up here in the next couple weeks is going to be us picking all four teams, full rosters, forwards D, goaltenders. And it's going to be elite. But a couple of these things that came out, Chris, I agree. I just, I hated, hated the, I was like, these rosters stink. I can do so much better.

There's just some crazy choices. It's just, as always, they always go like this. Yeah, we need the vet leadership. We need that, you know, that 35-year-old in there on the roster so that, you know, fucking Jake Gensel's not on there and I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Well, it's tricky because like, God, we are stacked though, dude. We're stacked.

Because it's tricky because the one I just saw on NHL.com leaves off Tage Thompson, Brock Besser, and Joe Brinket. Joke, joke, joke. And I'm like, pooh. And they're putting in certain guys that I'm like, excuse me, this person is on there. Not naming names, but excuse me. But, dude, but it's stacked up, though. It's stacked up.

The D was a little bit... There were a few more questions on D than I thought. That's all I'll say. Utterly putrid, dude. It's ridiculous how good the U.S.D is. And then the goaltending is why we win. Here's what's fucking crazy, dude. Otter might not make it.

That's what's back shit, dude. Our goaltenders that USA is choosing between are Jeremy Swamint, lock starter, and that's obvious if you don't think so, you're a fucking moron. Connor Halebeck, who just swept his way to a Vezna. Thatcher Demko, who was an, absolute brick wall for Vancouver as they went from the basement to the fucking penthouse. And then Otter, who was a weapon and was just in the Western Conference Final.

Like, are you, those are four of the best six goalies in the NHL. Those are the best four goalies in the four nations tournament. Correct. And one of them is going to be in the tournament. It's literally not going to be rostered on this team. Think about how absurd that is. So, USA is winning. We could win the whole damn thing.

We're going to win the whole damn thing, too. And that's, again, that is my hot take comfortably. Is it a round-robin, Dan? I actually have no idea. I have no idea how that's going to work. It must be a... It's bullshit if it's just like random draw, and then it's like, you two play, you two play,

and then the winners go to the final. No, I think it's going to be probably a group stage vibe where everyone plays each other, so everyone plays three games, and then the two with the most points after the three play. and then the next two play for third, yeah. Okay. Yeah, dude.

I love it. I love it. We're stacked. It's about time, too. It's about time. You've been coming, dude. USA has been coming. We haven't had the Olympics with NHL players in it,

and now we get the first taste of elite-level talent in a international tournament with the Four Nations Cup. It's bullshit that Czech is not in it. I agree. David Posternak, I'm sorry, but you're not. And here's the deal. USA is winning comfortably, comfortably. probably don't drop a game, Dan.

I don't drop a game. I think they sweep. I think they sweep. Yep. They sweep. Three and no after the round robin, which we don't even know if there is one, but three and oh after the round Robin,

and then a comfortable shutout in the gold medal game. Yeah. And what they're going to do, what they're going to do is they're going to name whatever three of those goalies they name, each one is going to play a period. And they're all just going to have a shutout every single period. Yes, dude. I love that.

I love that. Oh, man. All right. Well, those are some hot takes, dude. Those are some scorching hot takes, some early knee-jerk reactions of things that we're feeling, things that are getting the loins tickling and tingling a little bit heading into the season. We're going to have a ton of stuff for you guys this summer. It's unbelievable.

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