Empty Netters Podcast - Vegas Is Thinking Western Conference Finals After OT Heroics

Episode Date: May 13, 2026

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Ice is ready and we are back with another episode of the MTV Nights podcast brought to you by BetMGM Live Edition. We're here on Wednesday morning, two unbelievable games last night. Every single live episode we start, CP is hunched over his computer like the hunchback of Notre Dame, looking like a weirdo in a editing den. Because people had the over-under at six and a half minutes late. And they just lost.

You just lost, folks. Suck on that. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, folks, thinking that we're going to be late. How dare you? I do need a water, though. And I might, you know what, let's do a 10 minute delay, and I'm going to go grab a water. No, no, no, no. I saw Devil Wears Prada too last night.

Oh, nice. Damn. Now I want to talk about that the whole time. We're going to talk about that for at least a little bit. Let people get into the waiting room because everyone thinks we're going to be late. Yep. So we've got to give people a buffer. I also have some stuff to discuss, but go on.

Okay. Devil Wears Product 2 is a perfect sequel, and it's better than the first one. Incorrect. It's not better than the first one, but it's, it is, it is exactly as a sequel should be. I think you're right about that. It is, it is 100% better than the first one. No, the first one's tremendous. The first one is tremendous, but this movie is,

stupendous um no it's also tremendous it's literally a perfect sequel they did not they did they did not miss a single step I loved that there was only one we're not going to spoil it because it's still in theaters there was only one part

early on that I was like oh don't do that and then they just perfectly let it linger they let it hang and dangle and tempt us with the potential of it being bad and solved and handled it perfectly. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. And I was like, this is incredible. Yeah.

And here's the big thing, dude. The Devil Wears Prada is a phenomenal movie. Yes. It's a very sad movie. People don't acknowledge that, dude. Like, in that movie, Andy's relationship gets blown up. Yep. Andy has terrible taste in men, by the way.

Yes. Like, Nate's not a good dude. He's not a bad dude, but he's not a good dude. Yeah, he doesn't respect her for changing. Nate is, yeah, so terrible taste in men, but her relationship blows up to the point where they're like, you know, she leaves the job. The issues they had is gone, but they're still not getting back together because it's like, yeah, this isn't working.

She leaves said great job because she can't handle it. And she's like, all right, let's see if I can become a journalist. God knows how fucking that's going to go. Miranda is like a bad, backstabbing person to keep the job. and the people above her were also bad backstaving people who were potentially going to fuck her over unless she figured something out. The Tooch gets fucked over

and he just sits there and he's like, well, you know, she'll take care of me eventually. She has to, right? Yep. Everything, everyone is left in a like bad place. Yeah. And this movie, no spoilers, is just perfect.

It's a delightful film. It's a delight. And it's what you always ask for. You're always like this. Whatever happened to movies getting off their high horse and stop going, we need to have this big poignant, oh, and bad things happen because the world is imperfect. We go to movies to escape. We want good stories.

This is exactly what that movie did. And we had gotten this scoop before we saw it, both of us. But I loved the choice of some sequels, I will say Top Gun Maverick, perfect example, can go, this completely services the people that liked the original. but also if you are new to the game, if you've literally never seen the first, you could go to Top Gun Maverick and go like this, that movie was gas. Because you wouldn't get it as fully as I got it,

but you would go, that was sick. I had a great time. I think that happened here too. No, I think this movie is more for the people that know these characters, because now it's just like these older people who are like, oh my God. Like, no, the young demo,

I don't think is going to love this movie as much as the young demo loved Devil Wears probably. if you've never seen the first. Which not their fault, I'm saying I love this choice. Thank you for just giving us their story. I wanted the story of those people. You're trying to say that

a young generation loves Top Gun Maverick more than a young generation loves Devil Wars Prada too. Yeah. I think you're wrong. I don't think that there's a bunch of Gen Z, Gen Alpha fuck bags

who are going to see Top Gun Maverick. Fuck bags! Whoa! It's 8.30, Dan. Yeah, just insulting my whole generation. Just completely just bam. Wow. Oh, I didn't mean you, and I didn't mean to imply they're all fuck bags.

But I don't think that there's a bunch of them who went and saw Top Gun Maverick without having seen Top Gun and they were like this. This movie is fucking gas. Dude, I don't think that happened. I think it did. Yeah, there's at least 10. Maybe more. Oh, God. I'm not sure that that happened.

But if it did, kudos to them. Either way, I'm excited to see it again. Everyone looked beautiful. Holy shit, dude. Yep. Like, I mean, Merrill, Anne, Emily, all, they look more beautiful now. Yeah. It's been 20 years.

They all look more beautiful. Tuch, more beautiful. Yep. Also, Kenneth Bran on the man. The man. dude. Justin Thoreau, so funny. I thought he was perfect. He was perfect. Just saying hello.

Dude, do you remember that? Yes. He was perfect. Okay, let's move off Devil Weir's products. We've got a lot of hockey to talk about. As you can see, one game tonight. We had the two games last night, but Devil Wears product is sick. Go see it. Go see it right now. All right. Buffalo, Montreal gets all tied up. What do you think about the Sabres? Okay. Incredible start. and obviously Buffalo scored 50 seconds into game three in the Bell Center.

Lindy Ruff said, we need a quick start. You've got to shut that crowd up. And then Montreal scored pretty quickly and then nothing worked. This one, even better of a start. I think the shots were 8-1 at one point. Buffalo's all over them. Yeah. And I actually was really proud of them in that moment,

even if they were going to lose. and it all went to hell. I wasn't sure yet. But just in that moment, down to one, kind of saying, you know, we said with Marty the other night, you got to have this one

and you know you got to have this one for the first time in playoffs. You know if we lose, we're dead, and you're in the most hostile place in the league. I could have seen Buffalo come out and just be fucking up, trying too hard,

the emotions get the better than whatever. Incredible start to a road game. They get the first goal, which was a sick fucking pass Norris over to Sammy 1T off Dobish's footing in Samuelson had such a good game And then You get

You think you go up too Wow you want to get into this right away That's what this happened right away It did happen right away This is the first thing that happened to this game of note Where I was like oh my God I thought this entire thing Was

Depressing Okay what happened to the game I love? Here's what sucks. Hey, what happened to it? Bucci said this in the Vegas game where he goes, and I don't know, I'd like actually maybe the chat to weigh in,

but I don't know what people's opinion is of replay. But Bucci said, man, these other sports have really gotten this down pretty quickly. Because that was always the fear. Everyone was like, I don't want replay the game. games are going to take a thousand hours. I'm like, get the call right, idiots.

But anyway, Bucci was like, other sports have gotten replayed down really quickly, and some of this stuff is taking forever. And he was talking about the Vegas game. But in this game, the Toronto, by the way, and this wasn't even a coach challenge. The Toronto, the command center, the control center in Toronto. Heads to the Death Star goes buzz. I think that, was it Quinn? I think that Quinn shot might have gone in.

So this So great, I love that shit Because if the fucking puck went in I would like to know about it So Toronto buzzes We stop the game and look at it And dude That puck

Is so clearly in to me Like literally dude It takes two angles One you can see almost his full glove Behind the goal line Two in the other angle The front one you can see the puck is vertical They zoom in on the logo on it

It's not even flat it's vertical So I'm like, this should, this could have been and should have been a 60 second replay. I would have gone in and gone like this. And I wish. Okay, yeah, that's it. I wish I implore the refs and the Death Star in Toronto to go. I actually think fans will like it and respect it. If they come out immediately and they go, oh yeah, took one look at it, it's a goal.

Same. Because people, anyone who goes, that's all, that's, you only looked at it that long? I think more people will go, yeah, because it was obvious. We're moving on here. I think they'll respect that. It's also the McDavid comment about offside where he was like, if it takes you that long to figure it out, then don't

change the call. You know, if we have to look at someone's skate for 10 minutes and we still don't know, then whatever you said, the first place is fine. I feel like this is a good time to quote Ted Lassow. These goals, these goal reviews need to be more like pornography. It's hard to describe, but you know when you say it. Yeah. That's a That's a senator or something. Like someone in government said that.

That's correct. Yeah. So yeah. I think I was already annoyed because I was like, what are we looking at for 10 minutes when everyone on fucking earth with a brain knows this puck is in the net? Correct. So then, and dude, you were saying, I forget what you said to me, but I said to you that they were going to job them. I was like, I guarantee they come out of this and go, we can't tell.

inconclusive. Credit to the crew. Credit to the refs for coming out and going like this. We have a good goal because it was a good goal. So thank you. Took a long time, but thank you. Bang two nothing. Crowd devastated.

It's always funny when you get a goal like that, by the way. Like on the bench, everyone's like, hey. And you're like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So credit to the rest. There's nothing funnier than that in soccer.

Yeah. Because these players then they go and do like their goal celebration after. after the VAR. And I'm like, you sprinting and kicking the corner flag? Jesus Christ. So anyway, credit to the refs, two nothing buffalo. And I'm thinking, wow, something's cooking here. Sure.

Something's cooking here. Excited to see Montreal's response. Montreal's response is to go, that does not count. Challenge. Challenge for goalie interference. And I started laughing hysterically before I even saw a single replay because I was like, here we go, dude. This is the most typical bullshit.

We're going to look at this thing for 10 minutes, realize it went in and then, and then realize, oh, it's actually good. goal of interference. And dude, I don't know why we can't look at that stuff at the same time. Like, why can't he go, oh my God, just to be clear, if you're looking if this went in, also look if it's goalie interference because we will be challenging after. I texted you and Wyatt exactly that. I was like, this is so dumb because if that's goal interference, they should review the goal as they did and they should have gone the puck completely crossed the goal line, but we have deemed that there was goalie interference.

Like it's, it annoys me that the refs and the Death Star in Toronto admit that they go, we actually didn't see goal interference at all until Marty St. Louis challenged it. That makes me go, that is bullshit. Yep. We don't know what goalie interference is then if that's what you're admitting here, which they kind of admitted. Yes. And I don't like that at all. So I think it is annoying that you can have a 10 minute review of a goal, call it a good goal, and then let a coach go. But what about goalie interference?

What other double jeopardy can I pull here? Whatever Uno reverse card can I pull out of my asshole to get this goal call. Am I okay? Am I having a strove? To get this goal called back. Jack, call 911. Call 911. Call my mom.

Call my mom. I'm having a stroke. It just felt like they were like this. What can we come up with to make this goal not stand and help Montreal out? That's how it felt. I'm not saying that what was happening. What did you think? once they challenged for goal interference and you saw the replay what did you think i think this it's what

i said earlier what happened to the game i love that is what is going through my head and i say that because you know what i love uh i got i there's no way i can find him through all the notifications but the uh keep this up folks on x nothing makes me laugh harder than when we make a comment on x and a person with a jock writing Twitter name that's like Habs fan 064 or their profile egg photo is a player on the Habs. Yeah. They're not putting a photo of themselves. They're putting a player of a grown-ass man on a team they root for.

And they go, it's clearly blah, blah, blah. Watch the fucking game, fellas. And I'm like, oh, I can watch? Yeah, sick. Holy, I didn't know. Do you think that I'm not watching the game? Yeah. You fucking twat.

So I love those Homer comments. And what is clear to me on the replay is that Quinn's stick does touch Dobish's glove. Yep. No question. And Bizz, credit to Bizz was like going so hard. Like Bizz is fully on his Montreal train. Yeah. And like he was going at people being like, you fucking idiots who can't see that that clearly

touches the glove and putting. it in the net, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, he was on one, and I loved it. In the, the broadcast I was watching with the volume on, they were looking at, um, who is it that goes across the net? Like, who has the puck? I can't remember because I can't see it in this replay. But whoever, whoever drives the puck hard across the net trying to score for Buffalo,

they were saying, uh, like, he nicks Dobish on the way. And then the Habs defenseman, let's see if that's visible here. The Habs defenseman comes through and kind of drills Dobish, frankly, with no push, no push at all. Sometimes it's like, oh, the forward gets drilled, or his own player gets drilled by someone on the other team.

That's bullshit. This is literally the Buffalo player goes across, kind of Nick's Dobish. Habs defenseman who's crashing down, hits Doebusch way harder. And the broadcast I was watching was like aiming at the Buffalo player who net drove. And I'm like, dude, yes, maybe his skate gets a bit of dobish. But then his own defenseman murders him.

Like frankly, Dan, I think if I did commit goal interference against you, but then your own teammate steamrolled you without me doing anything. And then my team scored, I would go, that's a goal. Even if my act was literally goalie interference because I'd be like, it's negated by your guy murdering the goalie. It doesn't matter. But I'm looking at this replay and again, this was not discussed when I was watching on TV and I didn't see Biz in between periods because I went to talk to you actually.

The Quinn stick hits him in the glove. Yes. And that is the only thing that is being discussed here. Anyone who was having discussion on the contact before that is confused. Is a fool. Yes. Well, they're just confused. That is not.

Quinn's stick touching the glove is what the goalie inference call. was. The reason I don't like it is because, in my opinion, there is zero, zero, intent by Quinn to push that glove. That is clear, oh, there's a puck there. I'm batting it towards the net, follow through on his shot that nicks the glove. Yep. And what's the rule on that? Do you know? I don't know. But I hate it because if you watch a live replay, a full speed replay of it, you don't even see him hit the glove. Yeah, I didn't. And, and, and, And that's what it pisses me off about it. It's so quick.

I don't believe it's that strong that it's like really firing Doebish's glove back. And it's just there's zero intent for it. To me it felt like a hockey play. Like there's a like, are you telling me every time there's a doorstep chance and guys are jamming puck's in? And they fucking smack the puck and like they don't hit the goalie's pad a little bit. And you could then make you the argument of like, well, that knocked the goalie off kilter. That's goalie interference too. I know this one's different because it's in.

his glove. But I'm like, dude, he wasn't, it's not like he shot it into his glove and then Quinn spears his glove into the neck. Yeah, right. Quinn is just shooting the puck and his follow-through hits the glove. It's, it's interesting for the new fans in here, if you take a shot or a pass and your stick is just coming up from the act of that shot or pass and you high stick someone and they start bleeding and whatever, that is allowed. It's not a penalty because they go, that's in the act of the shot. So it's kind of interesting in this that you go, that's just the act of his shot, or that's your argument at least. That is just the act of his shot.

So what if it hit? I could have hit someone in the face. Yeah. And if that had gone in, it wouldn't have been a penalty. It's the act of my shot. So it's kind of weird that in this case, it sounds like they go,

well, even if this isn't the act of your shot, you still can't hit the goalie's body into the neck. I think the thing that bothers me is I want it to be very clear. I'm not rooting for Buffalo or Montreal in this series. I'm rooting for seven games and I'm rooting for both teams to have fun. I think both these teams are amazing. I think they're both super fun and I got love for all of them.

I just don't like this whole sequence. I didn't like the fact that we reviewed that goal for so long. I don't like the fact that after that long of a review, the coach can challenge for goal interference. I don't like that the goal of interference, which absolutely there was contact on. Yeah. Stick on glove.

Fish on hook. I don't like that after all that, that is deemed goal interference and is taken away. And it just feels like one of these things where I'm like, we are taking replay, review,

and challenge too far. Because that was just like a rate of play game and it goes in. Now, I have two more things to say. One, I then immediately posted

right after. This was so funny, they go, no goal. After all that, I go immediate Montreal goal incoming. And then what, two minutes later?

Yeah, Montreal. New hook. New hook, dude. Fucking new hook. Holy shit. I then also posted New Hook and Howden are mirror images of each other. That's really funny. Yeah, that's really funny.

Just look up their regular season stats and then their playoff stats and you'll be like this. Oh my God. Yeah, they are doing the exact same thing. It's unbelievable. And then here's my big stance. I love Dave Jackson. Yes. Dave Jackson is the fucking man.

That's great dinners with Dave Jackson. Yes. Dave Jackson is the fucking man. He is an awesome dude who has had an amazing career. and it's just a good, good, good human being. I'm done with this. Every league does this, though. The NFL don't care.

Here comes Dan Blandino. I don't care. I am done with it. It's insulting. It is insulting that the NHL employs a former NHL ref who is an executive-level NHL ref now to come on and piss in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Correct, dude, correct. Because here's the thing, dude.

Obviously, Dave is going to lose his job if he goes, that's a fucking terrible call. Toronto got that wrong. Or the boys on the ice got it wrong. Yep. Those are his fucking countrymen, dude. Those are his soldiers. Brothers in arms. He's not going to disagree with them.

He's not going to disagree with Toronto and the people who employ him. So what is the point of this? I wish the point was for him to come in and go, hey, update. You know how if you are in the act of show? or passing and you high stick someone, it's not a penalty because that's allowed. Well, if you're in the act of shooting but you unintentionally hit the glove, that is not a goal. And then I would go, oh, wow, I didn't know that. That's amazing.

Thank you so much. And we wouldn't even be happy. We could have canceled this live show because there'd be nothing to talk about. I'd be so informed. But instead, I don't get any of that. I think, I think this is kind of what you're saying. I think what it needs to be if we're going to keep it

because I want to keep it because I want Dave I like Dave I like Dave popping in I think they need to go like this now we're going to cut to Dave Jackson who's going to tell us why this call

was made this way not what he thinks because Dave is going to he's forced to have to go they got it right folks dude you know it would be gas if just hear me out dude

if Dave I wish they would keep Dave in a black box, no sound, no light, no nothing, and then a play happens, and then they wake him up, they take his goggles off

and everything, and they show it to him, and they go, what is this call? And then he would say, and they go, interesting, Dave, they said it was no goal.

That sounds like a perfect world, that's how you lose your job. But that would be fucking awesome because we'd be like, you're the expert, what happened? But this is my whole thesis. That would be awesome.

Yeah. He would lose his job. Because, inevitably, he would disagree with what happened. Yeah. And then you have mayhem online. Because people are going, Dave Jackson literally disagrees with that.

What they're doing is preventing, they're trying to prevent riots. And I get it. It's smart. Yeah. It's the best league in the world. But what I'm saying is you need to just change the wording to going, now we're going to kick it to Dave Jackson to tell us why this call was made this way. Yeah.

Because Dave is a ref expert. He can cite the rule book. He can say what the guys on the ice probably saw, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. don't go, no, let's see what Dave thinks because he's forced to go like this. I think they nailed that one. And then everyone goes, great. Thanks, dude.

Really thanks for that unbiased take, pal. Dude, hey, Canadian 1445 in the chat. Because he said wasn't the goal interference, the skate dragging Dobish's stick? And then he said the league literally gave an explanation that it was the skate dragging Dobish's stick and had nothing to do with stick on glove. Canadian 1445, that is exactly what they said

on the broadcast I was watching. They said that's all they were looking at. And again, I forget the Buffalo player who Net drove there. But they were like, it's all they're talking about is that. So, Canadian, are you saying that's what you heard on the broadcast too? Because that is 100% what I heard. Or are you saying after the fact? Like today, the league has said the call was because it's weird.

On the broadcast, they were talking about that. And then Dave, they brought in Dave or like, TNT was on that game? Yeah. No. Because of Biz was going crazy, right? But no, I feel like biz goes crazy like that when he's at home. I think these games were both the ESPAN because it was Bootsie in the Vegas game.

Either way, they cut to something and they were like, this is, the glove is the issue. They said that on the broadcast. But before they were looking at the skate. All they were looking at was the skate. And I'll tell you what, Habs fan, whoever you are, if it is the contact before, this is even more of a fucking joke.

Because if you think that was goal interference, you do not belong in this game. So yeah, that's where I'm with you, dude. In fact, I think if the league is a saying they called that because Quinn's hit his glove, fair enough. Fair play, good call. I'll move on with my day. If the league is saying it's because a skate drag hit Dobish's stick before the Habs defenseman drilled Dobish.

And they don't care about the Quinn stick, then that is fucking lunacy. Lunacy. So with you there, immediate goal. And dude, then I kind of felt bad. I started this segment with, wow, great start for Buffalo. They knew exactly what they were doing. And then you kind of get jobed, kind of get jobs here. And then bang, Habs goal, then they haves finished the period so strong.

And then Cole Caulfield Power Play goal. And then it's like, and that was a pretty good goal from Cole too. It wasn't really nice. It was just, you know, that kind of felt like that guy scores 50 goals. Strong play. And now I'm like, you're dead, dude. You're fucking dead. And it was crazy.

After all that, Cat, going down to 1. in the first sucks. Yeah. If you're Buffalo, I think you're out playing them, you think you're on top of them, and then you go down to one in that first period. 12 seconds left for something?

Yeah, you are going into that locker room going, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah. Now, I would hope that the players and Lindy, you go into that locker room and you go, hey, bullshit just went on. It's bullshit that they're leading, but we're all over them.

Don't panic. It's kind of like what I said about the Ducks icing thing. Sometimes I like getting jobbed, because you rally around it. Yeah, getting job to early as the boys, because you're like, fuck damn, dude,

are you kidding me? Are you, okay, good. And early jobbing, you can rally. Yeah. You can change your stars,

as they say, in a knight's tale. Shout out Heath Ledger, shout out Paul Bettney, shout out Alan Tudic, shout out the guy who plays Robert Parathian. Fuck!

What's his name? Zach? No idea. Just no idea at all. Fuck. Yeah. That movie rocks. Yeah, it does.

I loved a buffalo's fight here, though. Me too. What was the stat? Did you see the stat? I don't think it, UPL and, what do you almost spell that? UPL and Lion, I think, have not won at the bell center. No, no, I thought. Good job, Sack.

I thought, I thought they hit. I thought they were both like two and two with, oh, oh, at the bell center. At the bell center. Yeah, maybe not. So this was big for them. This game,

we get fast-forwarding, second period, we get a Tage Thompson goal. On the most insane bounce in the history of bounces. I feel like second game in a row. And dude, I don't know if you heard this,

but there was a really funny comment from the Habs goalie coach where they said, best ice in the league, but they said that Zamboni door has weird bounces. So they said to Dobish,

be aware of that. because Dobish likes to be out pretty far in those situations. And they said, be aware of that because we want you deep in your net because of something ricochets. It might go ding, ding, back while hit you and go in. So if you're in your net, that can't happen. Yeah. And then the goalie coach said, well, to be a Kaplan, he goes, it hit the thing and then shot

so sideways and hit you if you had been out. It would just sip through it. He was like, I'm so sorry. That was 100% our fault. That's so funny. I think this is a... Power play goal, Tatech, power play goal, Benson, early in the third.

And then you have a classic, all right, battle the whole rest of the fucking game here. Benson goal was nasty, it was really, really cheeky. I liked it. Oh, my God, dude. I... My feeling is this was must win.

Oh, yeah. I said this was must win. You also, you have to split and get a win there in Montreal. This was must win for me. after that first period, it felt like must win because you were on them. And then after the goal gets taken away, you hold Montreal's power play to one for seven. The fact that they had seven fucking peepers in this game and you went. This is a game that you're like, holy shit.

But dude, Buffalo, man, you're making it way too hard on yourselves. I think five shots in the second period, five or six in the third period, two powerplay goals gets you this win. I'm sorry, great performance by UPL. Coming in after getting yanked in the bell center, seeing the fucking red shirts in the stands, hearing how loud that is. You come in and have like a 966 save percentage or something like that.

Unbelievable game from UPL. Dude, I'm giving like a C minus game for the boys. You cannot come out there with 22 shots and rely on two second and third period power play goals, one with the crazy bounce that gets you this win. I feel like you kind of think you got away with one here. Dan, correct. And also we have a greetings from France in the chat.

So where nobody knows, Puck, this is my refuge. So shout out France. That's incredible. What time is it there? Probably like. It's like... And to work? And to work, dude. Have a little happy hour. Have a little happy hour drink.

Dan, you were spot on. My two things the rest of this game were... Well, actually, I'll save the goalie thing. Tage... Tage is having such a funny series, I texted you guys before Tage was a minus seven, I'm pretty sure they said,

coming into this game in this series, talk no points in this series. And then you go, Tage Power Play goal, but I'm like, not really, dude. Tage dumped one in, and it ricochets off the wall. And then Jack Benson,

Masterclass in front of the net, truly, that was awesome. But I'm sitting here going, I feel, all, okay, I feel two ways from Buffalo. I feel that was extremely lucky, extremely lucky. But then,

but then enjoy your life. luck and take it because now it's best of three and you have two home games. So I'm so with you. I thought this was not at all the game that they needed. But dude, you won at the bell center. Yeah. There's like Ari Gold says, there are only fucking scoreboards. Correct. And you won. So congratulations, even though after the first 10 minutes that they had, I'm really disappointed in the next 50. No joke. And it's a hard building and you lose that goal and all this shit happens. But The Buffalo Sabres came out and played like their season was on the line for 10 minutes and then did not play that way for 50. I'm like, yo, dude, do you think you're going to get away with that even one more time? You are not. So take, I hope this was the one break. If you're a Sabers fan, you better hope this was the one break you got.

Couldn't agree more. Well said. And I am looking at Buffalo and I'm a little bit like, dude, that ain't going to cut it. That is monumental to show. shut down their power play to get that game on away ice and head back home tied two-two. And the tabs. No blood, right? On the other hand, their bum, they missed the chance to step on a throat. But they also go,

whatever. We murdered. I think they go, because when you do the goalie switch, you can look at it both ways, right? You can look at it. It's a sign of weakness by a team, but you can also look at it like,

fuck, it's a different goalie. We got to change our shots. We've got to change our strategy. Sometimes there's a new goalie bump for teams. we saw it with Minnesota the first time they went back to Walshead, we just saw it here. So I think

what's tough is yes, if you're the HABs, you're like, dude, we were all over them. Like that, you know, our power play is not going to go one for seven again. But as we've seen with plenty of teams, sometimes it does. Yeah.

And you can't totally rely on that. But yeah, in Buffalo, I think you look at this and you go, no blood. Yep. No blood. But I always look at it. You got that big first win.

and I said that was always coming because Montreal was going to come in after a fucking murderer's row match with Tampa. But then Montreal kind of beat the wheels off you, two games in a row. And then you feel like you stole this one.

So advantage Montreal. Advantage Montreal, but hold on. Now you go home. This is a big opportunity of get all the jitters out, get all the, whatever happened in the last games are gone out.

and you've got to fucking buckle down here, Buffalo. Like, hey, Alex Tuck, you've got to step it up. Yep, need something. Tage Thompson, you've got to step it up. You're like, he was like a dash seven going into this game. And, oh, this was the, this was the user. This was the person from before, migraine mom bakes.

Taged goals three and four were both lucky bounces from the boards. Exactly. So it's like, hey, it's good to see some go in. Yep. But you've got two goals in a row that are lucky bounces and you have four goals in these playoffs. Like, buddy, you are, you're the guy. You are the goal scorer on this team. You got to get it going.

Cole's getting it going on the other side. You got to get it going. Zucker, Krebs, you've got to get it going. And it is a big, big chance at home, use the crowd, use the fact that you just won a game and get back in the mixture here. And you also have to remind yourself, Montreal has not lost two games in a row these playoffs. They are very good at responding. Try to figure that out too. because I think it is going to be soul-sucking to steal that game,

then come home and lose again on home ice and give them a three-two lead. That will be very soul-crush. Yes, it would. Do you stay with UPL? I'll talk while you- 100%. And it's crazy because Wyatt, we were texting with Wyatt before the game, and I was like, I can't believe this UPL thing. I would have done one more.

I thought he didn't look good against Boston at all. And Wyatt, very, hey, shut out Lake Hour. Is this camera on Zach? Yeah, look at this. Bang. Lake Hour, dude. Go get yourself one. Get to Lake Gower.

Go find some on. If you're in New York, just get them. If you're in Buffalo, just get some. But go online, find yourself some Lake Hour. Incredible drink. Wyatt said, listen, dude, UPL was the better goalie in the regular season in a damn near even split with Ryan.

And he did not play well against Boston. Not only were goals going in, but I'm telling you he deserves one more chance to shine in playoffs. That's what he said. And then I think UPL won this game. Even though I didn't even love. some of the goals. Like the new hook calls, like, fuck.

I'm tough play, but it's just like right there. I'm like, you want to just smother that one. But he made all the saves when he needed to and won them this game. So now you're a UPL team. Fuel the team to two goals when they have over 30 shots and over five power plays. That is a winning performance by a goaltender. Correct. Like if you do that and you lose that game to one, you get to look around the locker

and be like this. What the fuck, boys? Yep. What the fuck. Okay. I do quickly just want to stroke off Dobesh. Yeah, yeah. He is, I know there weren't that many shots for Buffalo.

He is so good and he is so big. Yeah, he is. He's very deceptively big. Like most goalies in the league these days are, you know, six two or bigger. He's like six four and he looks like a monster in there sometimes. There are guys honing down and they don't have anything. There's no opening. There's no angle.

He's just like, he's a monster in there. Spencer says, did you guys hear the announcer say Dahlene was reopening a cut to get a double minor. I did. Can we talk about that for a second? Yep. That was wild work by the ESPN broadcast. Wild work. Dude, I don't give a fuck. I also, I'm here to tell you right now, folks, if you think that when guys get hit in the chops, they aren't, maybe I'll bite the lip a little bit. Yeah, I was going to say, that is, that does happen all the time. That does happen. But for the ESPN, ESPN announced, to go, that actually looks like an old cut from Dahlene that he might be trying to reopen. It's crazy work as a broadcaster. You can't be doing that. How do you keep your job, dude?

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Vegas sucks. Okay. I, um, this is a, this is a Jim Powers, our old man, uh,

comment that I'm, I'm, I'm going to bring to the show. You know, Mike Breen, Zach does his bang on a good shot. I definitely think I'm going to be more often. Actually,

breeder bangs a lot. He kind of does. I'm going to be more often than OG brein bangs with this. But whenever our dad is watching a, uh, a really good game and like fun stuff is going on back and forth craziness.

He'll just kind of turn and he'll go, great action. It's awesome. Great action. And I want to bring great action to the show. Yep. Okay. And I'm not always going to say it, but let me tell you, the Ducks, Golden Knights game last night, great action. Great action. That is officially getting the empty netters great action stamp slapped on it. That game was a blast. Dude, the entire series has been a blast.

I said this last time on the last live. This is the most slept on literally series in the playoffs because it's late and no one's watching, but it's fucking awesome. The first thing I want to talk about is, well, yeah, I'm actually going to say that. The first thing I want to talk about is the McNabb-Toss job on the hit on paling. the so o's said it it's sometimes like paling is coming out of the zone and it appears he's trying to kick it up to himself so there's a there's a universe where he does still have the puck sure as mcnab is approaching he's going oh there comes paling he's going to have that puck and i'm going to run through him as if he wasn't fucking there but the so so to o's point he was saying you're committed to the hit in your brain you're

going i'm going to hit this guy He so clearly does not have the puck by the time he gets close that you need to stop. And you can even, even if McNabb's argument is, I was going too fast, you can do one of these. You know where you hit someone, but you're catching them at the same time. You're like, oh, sorry, sorry, because you're like, oh, good. And I don't, maybe they would have called him interference anyway, but it would have been a two. But he absolutely buries him into the boards. Yeah.

Thoughts on the hit. I feel like kind of what you just said. Yep. It's a fast game. I thought it was a bad hit. I could have gone either way for me with the toss. So I already have one in the chat and a ton of Vegas people live were saying it's a clean hit. And I think you mean, like Jacob, I think you mean the literal hit itself was not dirty.

As in he hits him shoulder to body, no head contact, doesn't leave his feet. he's not a charge. I assume that's what everybody means when they're saying clean hit. Because if you think it's not interference, you are a fucking psychopath. The puck is going the other way in the zone. And there is a full two Mississippi.

Like every player has an internal clock. You are way beyond that. Yeah, I think it was very late. There's been a few in the past. You know these in the neutral zone where it's like pass and then you're looking at it and then people have gotten blown up. There's been a few of those in the last few years

where we have this debate is that interference. and it is, in my opinion, but I also think you shouldn't be admiring your fucking pass. Yeah, true. This is not that. This is, this is not that. This is a preposterous interference.

Yeah. So I'm trying to see if anyone disagrees with that. But otherwise, I agree, clean hit. If he had the puck, clean hit. So for me, as they go to the review, dude, this is another one where I could have used fucking Dave Jackson. Yeah, like people are saying he doesn't have the fucking puck, which is so true. So here's my question, Dan.

or I guess I have two questions. As they're reviewing this, if paling isn't hurt, and he didn't come back. Like he's, he has concussion problems in the past. No, it's bad. And he's head slams against the boards. This could be a major issue. If he is injured as you're reviewing it and you see him, he's going to the tunnel, does that affect your call? As a human?

100%. Yeah. And that can't affect the call. You see it shouldn't. It should not. Yeah. It should not. But as a human, no doubt about it.

Because you're like, he's not going to play again. I think there is an undeniable fact that if something like that happens and the player who got hit is just like standing there on the ice waiting for it and it's kind of like, yeah, I mean, it wasn't that. Because a lot of the chats go on. If he's not heard, it's a minor for sure. And I think that they're probably right. I think it definitely goes into your decision making.

If the player is just sitting there, because I think whether right or wrong, it makes you go, clearly the contact wasn't that severe. Look at him, he's fine. I wonder though, you might be right. You all might be right. I wonder, though, where I stand on, because the call for interference is intended to be like, I'm kind of blocking your way to the puck.

You chip it by me and I'm like, and like, that's interference, dude. Or like, oh, that was barely late. I'm kind of in the camp that on a, the point of a major should be an egregious interference. Like if it is like two seconds and someone drills you open eyes, I'm like, what are you doing, dude? That's a clear major. Like even if I wasn't hurt, it was just such egregious interference.

I'm like, what is wrong with you? Which leads me to my next question, and this is my rule question, which I literally don't know. Obviously five minutes for fighting isn't an injection. Is a five-minute major other than fighting, a automatic toss? or was this, did they go five-minute major and toss? Because he got tossed. I just don't know if that's the rule. It's a five-minute game misconduct.

That, I believe, gets you tossed. So it's automatic. If you get a five-minute, yeah, like a fighting misconduct is not a game misconduct. Yeah, game misconduct is you were gone from said game. Like, remember the Vegas Sharks game when there was the five-minuteer off the face-off and they scored three goals and it was crazy? Yes.

That wasn't a toss, right? Or was it? No, again, there are penalties that are game-misconduct. conducts and I believe that there are misconducts that do not eject you from the game. Yeah, so I wouldn't have been that mad if he got that. If they said, dude, that's a five minute because that was such an egregious interference. I don't even care if he was hurt or not, but I'm not ejecting you. The ejection was when I started going, yo, dude, what the fuck? Yeah. I don't know, dude. When, like, this, when you commit an egregious infraction, like you admit you think it was. Yeah. And you

hurt a player, you're fucking dunzo, buddy. It's like, is how I feel as a human. I'm not saying that that's the right call. But when you do something so egregiously illegal and it knocks a player out of the game with an injury, I'm like, get the fuck out of here, dude. You're out of control.

Chat's saying that Dave Jackson said it was because Palin got her. Like, literally they went, your toss because... I believe that. I believe that. Like, I think that that absolutely plays a part. And now he's got a hearing, which I don't know where your take is on this, but normally I am like, You should be out as long as that guy's out.

Oh, well, a hearing means you're toast. When is the last time we saw a hearing not result in a suspension? We've seen it, but it's... I said when is the last time? Like, it's very rare. So what do you think he gets? One game. Yeah.

No question about it. One game. And paling, I mean, like, fuck, dude. I hope he's okay, but I just feel like he could be in real trouble here due to his past. And that would be actually devastating for the ducks. So right away, dude, you go. no paling, no McNabb. Now everyone's...

And dude, I said this before, but for the new fans in the chat, I can't tell you how much jumbling happens for the rest of the game when you lose someone. Because you have pairings, you have deep pairings, you have lines, and now you're like, Jesus fucking Christ, we have to move all this shit around.

If someone's getting extra ice, it's outrageous. But the ducks go on a five-minute power play, and I remember thinking... Because the power play's been better. But I was like, this is nearly the game. And we're like five minutes in. But I was like, either you score twice here and you win, or you get,

Vegas gets a five-minute kill and you lose. Yeah. Dude, never have I been more on the side of the shoot people than this power play? Because literally for four minutes, the ducks passed it around the perimeter and did nothing. And I was like, what a waste. And then it finally got to cutter and he just shoots it. He literally just takes it off the wall and shoots it. And then it's like, rebound goal. I was like, Christ, dude, put the puck on net.

I want to put some more emphasis on that. he, I thought Cutter, Gautier maybe had his best game of the playoffs. And last game too, though. Last night. I know, but this game was gritty, dude. Like, he, in that first period, there was an insane, insane play in front of the net where Dostal had to slide across, make a save, and then it's sitting on the doorstep, and Cutter back checked his ass off

and gets his stick in there and pulls it off the goal line. Yep. Then this play, that was not just shoots it up. Dude, that pull off the wall, and immediately, it turned like that was unbelievable. I think Weeksy in the broadcast was like that was he was going he was going nuts. That was a remarkable play by Cutter.

Did he have to do that? Like if he put his backhand against the boards, I think he just gets the puck. I don't know. That was fucking rimmed hard. It was just clean, quick. Yeah, it was so nasty, but I was like, why did he do that? It was so, it was just gross. But Beckett stays hot, good power play goal.

I was, and it's easy to say this in hindsight, I was as the rest of that powerplay was going. Like they score and then they still had plenty of powerplay time. When they didn't score on that, I was like, you just lost the game. It's not, clearly, it is not easy to score power play. I wrote huge kill from Vegas. It's like you just have an opportunity there to fucking rip the soul out of a team.

It is not easy to score on power plays. Most teams are under 50%. But in that moment for the ducks, I was like, you've got to fucking score here. And when they didn't, I was sitting there and I was straight up going, game over. Yeah.

You've lost. So that sucked. That sucked big time. And I was with you. I was on the same reaction. And then I kind of felt like, just like you said about Montreal, not that there was like a screw job overturn,

but just the momentum swing. I was like incoming Vegas goal right away. And it actually didn't happen right away, but what did happen right away, was the Marner got a breakaway. And dude, that was another argument. I guess it does happen right away because it's this power play that they score on.

But Marner gets that breakaway. And, dude, this is two times. I have been so excited to have this conversation with you because I know how you feel about it. Dude, and I wonder if you agree with this. I would play this clip in class to show people what a penalty show. Dude, the penalty shots that have been called in the playoffs so far.

Like, somebody pull up, like, Zach, see if you can search on Twitter, Martinuk penalty shot. But, like, it might be hard to find because they might show the actual penalty shot. But I just want, if you can, I want you to find the penalty that they believe resulted in a penalty shot for him. This is in the, this is the Keynes-O-S-Series series. If you can't find it, it doesn't matter. but the Martinook penalty shot and another one that was in

tight, I forget who, not QB because that was a good one but somebody else. But anyway, the Martinuk penalty shot, it's like a turnover under the dot. You will literally never get over this call. It's the most insane call I've ever seen. It's not that crazy, but it was, if that is being called, and this one isn't,

Mitch Marner has a breakaway from center ice. Dude. And gets hooked and they're like this hand. like he is a full two bodies ahead of the defenseman. Dude, it was insane. I was like, whoa, I was sitting on my couch like, whoa, he's going to be sick. And then the ref goes like this. Mitchiegoff slash, minor slash.

And I'm like, are you fucking out of your mind? Yeah. Dude, so I could not believe that. And Dan, I would go even further. You might disagree with this. That was kind of, kind of a soft penalty. Like he literally is doing a one hand job. I disagree.

I disagree. Two-hand him, obviously. But he just goes like this. yeah you can keep talking i disagree like not at all you are wrong dude if you watch that replay that the blade of his stick is turned

it catches marner's side and literally turns his entire okay if it's not a more of a hook you think it's soft because marner stayed up but that's a credit to marner like marner the breakaway speed by marter and then yeah putting that arm but that that he's fish on hook okay that's not it wasn't like a little slash that was a turn blade hooked to your body then definitely And like Marner like literally gets rotated and just keeps skating because he's so gone.

Because I hate the one-hander calls. Like I'm like, I should be able to go like this to anybody. I think you should be able to one hand and hit stick. Yeah. But if you hit hands or if you turn blade and hook at all, that is a penalty. And it was, there was no doubt that that was a turned blade hook. Yep. And again, it is a, save for Marner not going down, that is the definition.

of a penalty show. Dude, I could not believe that. When the ref, like, he's sitting up, the goal doesn't go in. Great, great poke check by Joe Stahl, by the way. And when the ref was like, just pointing at the player, I was like, excuse me?

That was so... Excuse me. That was bat shit. But then on the power play, unbelievable, this is some foreshadowing, but unbelievable play by Dorothea. I am going to agree. It was very Datsukian.

Yep. But I am also going to see. say brutal play-by Crieds. Yeah, it has to go out. You have to get that. And it's and and and the problem is it was such a clean strip. I get that

you're tired. I get that you're on on the kill and obviously we know like this is my guy but he wants that play Of course. Like that was a very easy stick. I mean let's call it what it is. Chris Cryder is much stronger than Padildorf. Oh yeah. Much stronger. So you

getting that cleanly stick lifted and like take, like, it was, there was no battle at all. Like, it was just, it was a bad, he's kind of like working his stick. And like, that stick lift was like, oh, fuck. Yeah, I'm gone. Can't let that happen in the D zone. Great play by Dorothea. Snipe job. And the second he got it, you can hear Booch on the call. The second he turned and had that time, you're like, oh, this is going. Yeah. I do have a gripe with Weeksy here. Oh, okay. They are talking about that play on the broadcast. And Weeksy goes, go, and it, and, like, the, great play goes in from Dorofiev,

scorofaev as I call him. Oh, dude. And he went as I call him, and I'm like, that's good that you call him that. But we know why you call him that. Yeah. That is one that I would like credit for.

And dude, and like, I'm not even trying to take credit from you, but that is a, I've got to believe there are plenty, thousands of Vegas fans who have called him that within their friend group.

This isn't the fucking what's the language thing? The Rosetta Stone. This isn't the Rosetta Stone where like, oh my God, this is the greatest invention of language wordplay I've ever heard. I'm sure there are Vegas fans

who are like, oh, Scoraphia. So the idea of it's like Gold Cofield. Yes, exactly. Perfect. Perfect. I'm not saying we did anything impressive. Right. So I'm like, dude,

we didn't invent it either. Like someone else, everyone on Earth has invented this. That was really funny. I caught that too. So then Dan, oh yeah, then I was like, what did I have? Then he had a crazy game because then he takes one off the knee. And I thought, in this point in the game, I was like, Vegas, oh yeah, do we have an add-on coming? Yeah, he might pop in soon. Okay, let me know. This is a, then he takes one off the knee and I was like, man, Vegas are dropping like flies. They've already lost the defensemen. Now they lose Dorofia. because that looked bad.

He took that one out. The refs rarely blow it dead like that. And he takes that off the knee and it's just in shambles. And they were like, yo. He was hurting. And he went right to it down and I was like, dude, this would be a disaster. Honestly, I was like, that's a kill shot for Vegas. Legitimately, that's how I felt.

Oh, dude. Yes. I was like, you're done. You're already without stone. If you lose Dorofav, you're in trouble. Yep. So then that was huge that he bounced back. And dude, then fucking hurdle, man.

Okay. So hurdle gets the next goal. Vegas goes up to. won. I said it in our, I don't think that video's up yet, but we went to the game at Ponda and with the goalie pulled, Hurdle gets that goal to make it a one goal game. And I was saying that feels so good for Tomas Hurdle and the Vegas Golden Knights. They lose that game. But I believe that they went in that locker room and they're like, fucking hurdles going. Yes. Oh my God. And then what do you know? Very next game, hurdle scores. And that

was a great, there's a loose puck, get your stick on it. There was no, like he didn't pull that back in the forehand. He didn't think about that shit. He just whacked that shit on net and it went in. And like now you have a goal score who's got a goal scoring touch. Yes. And that is huge for Vegas. That was so massive.

A couple things in the chat here, Dan. Michael says a five-minute major is only auto-ejection for interference if there is an injury. So specifically that would have been a non-ejection. There we go. Thank you. other penalties like butt end are auto ejection no matter what parentheses unless you're Joss Manson, Goavsco, which is hilarious because I cannot believe

if that's the rule that that wasn't an ejection. And then Luna found out, or maybe this isn't a rule specifically, but just what she thinks. The Martin okay, there was a scoring opportunity and the Mariner one didn't ruin a shot attempt. That's why it's not, it wasn't called that way. But I'm kind of like,

a breakaway is a shot attempt. I'm on a breakaway. That is, that is a shot. Yeah, I don't think that's correct because if you're saying that there was a penalty infraction with a clear scoring chance, then you can't argue that that didn't affect his approach and ruin a scoring. Like the fact that it didn't go in, I'm like that that is absolutely a penalty shot. Yep. Okay, so then, and dude, I want to sell, I'll take this opportunity right here to say that Doe Stahl was making insane saves.

This is why I gave it the empty netters great action. Yeah, stamp, because. Insane. I have something for you. Oh. Oh, my God. Oh, nice. You know what?

When I said stamp, I could see the wheels turning in Zach's head, and I was like, I bet he's going to make a stamp. Yeah. Yeah. Bang. Look at that. Vegas, Anaheim, Game 5, great action. The stamp of approval is on the screen right now. Oh, there it is.

Yeah. The stamp of approval is on the fucking screen right now. Leave that up for this whole fucking game. Great action in this game. whole game. Dude, there were breakaways. There were power play goals for both teams. There were crazy moments. Goalie's flying in and out of the crease,

making saves. We had a goal scored with the goalie pulled. This game was great, actually. And then... And also, this was a perfect hockey game. In that two power plays for the ducks, they went one for two on the power play. Vegas went one for one in the power play, so not a ton of penalties called.

Shots, both teams had over 30, 36 for Anaheim, 32 for Vegas. face-offs 26 to Vegas, 23 to Anaheim, hits 26 to 29 in favor of Vegas. It was a very even hockey game, and it went to OT and was won in OT by the home team. Yep. That's a perfect hockey game.

So Cutter on the son of Renee Zelleweger goal. Father of Renee Zun. Father of Renee Zelleweger. I know it's confusing, folks. Olin is actually Renee's dad. Her dad. And she's proud. She's proud of her father.

She was in attendance. Ridiculous pass from Cutter. Ridiculous. Ridiculous pass from Cutter on that way. Best game of playoffs for it. Oh my God. And then, dude, the OT, I actually felt horrible for Crieds again because he actually is playing it perfectly.

Jack, who is a fucking beast. Jack pushes wide. Dorothea perfectly slides back presenting stick to Jack. Jack sees it, and he's trying to get it to him. Yeah. And Crider also sees it and gets in the way, and he goes, he stick lift me in the first period. I'm not letting it happen again. This puck's not getting through.

In fact, we're going to break out, go three on two the other way, and we're going to win. And Jack's pass, like, I think it hit a skate on the way. Yeah. Crides is directly, Trides is going to intercept it. It hits a skate on the way, ricochets off dostle and then out beat. Like, it's as if dude, Crider's right here, and he has the whole thing blocked, but the puck goes ding, ding, ding, ding off the goalie, and then out behind. him and then and then score if he ever rips it out of fucking mid air off the back bar

I was like cry totally was like you've got to be fucking kidding I know man it did suck that it was it was another one that it was like you felt like they had a chance to get the puck out of the zone yep and they did yeah actually good point it was earlier than that that it got hemmed in but Zach can we get a link going to bring someone in on the show um Carter Hart Dan uh 5 and O in OT in playoffs buddy that's cool he's yeah I mean

also shout out the chick with the boys they were talking last show after game four and in preview of game five Carterhart has responded well yes yes every time that they've lost a game Carterhart comes in and has had a pretty great

show pretty great showing and I'm like fucking A man like he he is performing well after losses and this was a great game you know like I Ducks had tons of shots. They had that big power play in the first.

So, yeah, good stuff from him. Yep. Ninja asks if the ducks are over dumping it in. I know it's for the line change, but it seems over excessive giving the puck away 85% of the time. I got to tell you it's in a playoff series, Ninja, especially one this tight where you feel like it's going seven. Talk to anyone on the Panthers.

Go back and listen to some of our Eps with the Panthers guys right after they won the cup. You do this because it pays off in game seven. Like you literally get pucks behind them and just smash their defensemen over and over and over because you want to win a game seven. If you think a series is going long, that's part of the reason you do it. And I kind of disagree with you guys that the duck's offense is drying up really. It's hard to score in playoffs. Yeah.

No, but I understand that comment because it feels like what is going on with Lazie's view here? There we go. Here we go. Yes. Here, hold on. Let me get this. Oh, yeah, true. I can't hear you yet.

Dan, to finish my thought, the, for the vaguer, or actually you are. Well, hold on. Zach, can you turn us down in the headphones? Johnny, can you hear me? I got you. Are we live right now? Oh, we're live, baby. Oh, okay, cool.

We are so live. Take your shirt off. You are at the phone. I don't have an undershirt on. My mom called me. fat last week, so I'm trying to lose some weight this week. I know. Shit, I forgot we were alive. He's cooking, you know?

My parents are like, here's food, here's food, here's food. That's all I get. That's all that happens at home. All right, well, chat, you can see we got Johnny Laz in the conversation here. Las, we just broke down the Sabres-Habs game. We're talking Ducks, Vegas right now. Obviously, we want your takes on everything. Someone in the chat just said, they think the Ducks offense is kind of drying up. What do you think about that? Hard to disagree.

I feel like they had so many chances last night and couldn't bury. Third period, they were dynamite. That goal that Olin Zellberger scored. I mean, it looked like they were on a power play with that puck movement McTavish, download it, Gochee. What a sick pass cutter made. But Carter Hart's been really good, too. You've got to give him credit.

And I know there's been moments where I think he's let in some weak ones. But when you need the extra save, Carter Hart's been making them. And I do think that Anaheim's been the better team in the majority of this series. Like they've generated most of the chances. The power play is obviously not as hot as it was against Edmonton, but it's still been looking pretty good. And you have guys like, you know, Lacombe, Truba playing so well on the back end that I think you could ask for a little bit more offensively from Lacombe.

Like he's been a little bit quieter this round than he was against the Oilers. But the Oilers are a much different team defensively than Vegas is. a different matchup, but I don't know, I still think they've been generating, generating, generating at some point it's going to break through. And I think this one, as you guys probably think, too, it's going seven, right? I, 100% and I'd need it to go seven.

Yes, same. Are you guys going to game six? That is the plan. And, well, here's the thing, dude. I, more so, no disrespect to Pondocenter, I want to go game seven. Yeah, it's our back as well. I want to go back to that Zellweger goal.

Dude, I think him losing the puck helped him. Me too. It got heart on the angle. The double clutch made heart over commit, and he was able to find that far side corner. And it also kind of deflected in, but either way, it was nasty, and it totally did feel like a power play.

But it was like legitimately, the presence from Zellweger to not panic and just get that back on his stick and just snap it immediately. Because the second it rolled off, I was like, fuck. But then he was like, get it, shoot.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck. It was unbelievable. Laz, to your point, dude, I totally agree with, I'd so much, if my offense is dried up, I would so much. I can't take your hand seriously. I know, dude. Last, welcome to my life, dude.

Sorry, CP. No matter what he says, he feels like an idiot because he looks like a puppet. It's like a Ninja Turtle, dude. It's incredible. I always want to be a big turtle. I would so much rather my team have the 40 shots and just not, be scoring enough, but getting chances versus when my team has 12 shots and we feel completely sifled. That to me is my offense drying up more than we're getting a ton of chances.

We just haven't potted enough. I do want to get, Laz, I want to get to Buffalo, Montreal, because I know you got a lot of thoughts in that series. But I, at what point do the ducks? Because we were, we were waxing poetic last game about how awesome it is, how Quenville is letting these young boys just run the show. It's like the inmates run the asylum type vibes. Like you've got your unbelievable veterans like Kreider and like Kallorn and like Truba and like Carlson who are there to hold the glue together to have that good veteran presence. But on the power play of the first line, they are just letting the young boys run. It's been an all season thing. At some point are the ducks going to need McTavish to do

more if they want to go on a deeper run here? Yeah. Well, you got to healthy scratch. You guys just signed what seven years, seven million dollars to to stay there. You know, obviously it's a first time playoff experience for him too, but you can't use that excuse when you have guys like Beckett Seneca who's on fire, Zach Benson in the Buffalo series who's on fire. And that's something that John Tortorella last night in the post game press conference was talking about. He almost said like, you know, we're seeing this like new change in narrative where it's almost a benefit for the guys who don't have playoff experience because they just don't really know any better and

don't know the significance of the moment. And I found that really interesting from Taurus, because I feel like he's a guy who you typically would hear, like, say the leadership group that has to take over in these moments, but it's not the case for majority of these teams right now. And for the Ducks and for McTavish, like, I know just from talking, as you guys talk to a lot of guys in the Ducks, I'm sure, too, but like when a coach has his favorites and you're not one of them,

I can only speak from my perspective, like in college and whatnot. It is very hard to get that out of your head. So I don't know what, yeah, I don't know what he's going through, but I definitely know that Quindville has his guys, right? Like he's got like last night. I mean, obviously Leo Carlson's becoming a superstar, but Leo Carlson was like double shifting in overtime last night. He was playing in between, I think, McTavish and maybe Gochier and then also Terry and Crider, I think. I might have that wrong. But Chris Crider, I think his first shift of O.T was the overtime winner when Dorfay has scored.

So he was only like a couple minutes long. But like it's just it's cool to see Quinville using Leo Carlson that much though in an overtime, right? Like this is a guy who's three years into the league and he's getting double shifted. No team in the Stanley Cup playoffs like in a game five. And I feel like in past years we've kind of given young kids excuses. And that doesn't seem to be the case right now with how they're shining in the postseason. Laz, I wonder in this, I'm pulling this out of my ass, but I wonder if if it's, if it's, It's beneficial that there's so many of them.

Like sometimes if you're the one young guy, you're like, oh, fuck, I'm the only one without play of experience. I hope I live up to the, but when it's like the whole team, you just look around and you're like, oh, whatever, let's fucking go out there and rip. I think absolutely. And like, Laz, we were talking last episode with Marty about Lecombe and how he's such a horse and he's just playing so many minutes. When you have a guy in the back end who's that young playing that many minutes, it's

easier to double shift a guy like Leo. Because, again, you're letting the inmates run the asylum. You're like, this is, it's the young boys team, dude. We're rolling with it. And it's working. It's an interesting thing. I said I believe Vegas was going to win that game. They won that game.

Credit to me, everyone. Credit to Dan. I think the ducks. But I think the ducks go into game six back at home feeling great, honestly.