Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Ada Manusia Di Balik Angka | #Endgame ft. Sandiaga Uno (Part 1)

Episode Date: August 26, 2020

Masa kecil yang diwarnai berbagai culture shock dan kegagalan membawa seorang Sandiaga Uno menemukan prinsip hidupnya. Apa saja yang konstan dan apa yang berubah selama evolusi karirnya sebagai pemimpin dan pengusaha? Secondary title di dalam thumbnail Youtube (NEW): "Life is about Preparation

Sandy Uno is a friend of my It's not quite, he was a person who's at least, in the end-a-handinginginged talenta-k-nors, especially in context of the about the Pembedailleam. This is N-Game. Okay, Bro, Sandy, thank you,

thank you, very, you can be here in the acer of my. We're so much, yeah. Yeah, I must. And this is a sort of co-warnation. We're friends. You know, it's been long long about I'm going to go about, yeah, sisi-pribody, and, and, and, from from the little,

from you, from, from, maybe you can't come. How, you, you, you, do you, where, life, where, and then, how, and then, then? Yeah, it's very, yeah, maybe,

yeah, maybe, just, you know, no, there's something that's really, that's what I was in the little, I was in oil field. Babi, I work in Caltechs, the last Caltech Pacific Indonesia. Now, it's chaffron.

So, he's like in, complex, so, so, so... In Sumatra? In Sumatra, in Rumbay, a little, in the little of Kota Pekan Baru.

I'm going to be there. Rumbai? Yeah. Oh, yeah, maybe when... Because we've... Yeah, when I was going to drilling, drilling. Yeah.

So, I used to say I was like to live in Rumbay, so about, maybe 10, 15 years, 15 years ago, specifically, I'm going to say, "'Lawrighed in Rumbay. "'Kenap,

"'Kanap, why, "'Pas, Gubernator. "'Rumbay, it's a Kement, "'we''," "'ween, no, no, "'we'," so, "'so, say, "'Lake''' like,

"'Lew,' "'Cimene.'" "'C,' "'sembe,' "'because, "'s'''' "'I'm, "'I'm "'Lah,' where at Rumbai. Oh, they're not know where that's where. It's where. It's really very

very much. So I'm going to ask to where, late in the back time, I'm at Riao, and then we're to take to Jakarta.

Bapa, I have a Pekhasan Balik to Jakarta, school. The school is in the So I'm truly really the other than I'm in New York, I'm in logat in Malayu, like. So, so...

Culture shock? Culture shock. Culture shock, all the other than the backauses'liskad. Then, ...asque, K, PSKD. School, S.D.

S.D. There, S.D. Then, S.P. in S.M. S.P. And then school, school nakal. I'm going to gettucin'cintas with basketball.

I'm playing basketball. And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do you-lure. Same, but, but, the, SMP. Then, drop out. Then, I'm going to be in U.I. Okay. So, I'm program-can, like,

and the way, but it's really, but it's not generous if you're really not good, so I'm not good, so much, so I'm not. So I got got to go out U.I that program non-Sypenmaru. It doesn't matter. It's how you end up. I found that.

It's the end game. So, so I'm not going to, then, I got down, but there's Sipan Maru, so that, so I was, But when I was sent me to the UNAG. B'Begu, B'Begu, I'd give me to the U.N.N.A.

Okay. And I got got to get in U.I. Si Pernamara, she'd beaughan't yet. But Babe Gau was going to be in a good school, and everything. You're learning? You're going to get what? In the U.I.

Okay. And, three months in there, but, finally, not the time, it's not to, S.A. Back here, back here, work in the group of the group of. Wait, look.

When you look to Jakarta, culture shock, the more than when you're like America. No, or back, I'm more culture shock to America. So, from Sumatra to Jakarta to Jakarta to Jakarta, Kansas, culture shock. Wichita, Kansas, bro. I've been left, too. It's an exciting town.

Merem, it's just, it's been left, right? No, one of music that I idolat to, make an album with the kata As Wichita Falls, so false Wichita. Oh, that's... Pat Matini. Yeah, yeah.

That's... Yeah, that's why I'm going to go to come. Yeah. Yeah. Cotan's, yeah, that's aviation, agricultural town. And I'm agate really because, yeah, when, you know, yeah, that was a number of people in Indonesia

there, there. And then... How about? Two? No. No, it's 30. But, yeah, I'm agate. the food's,

then get in the ashram, it's hard. But, but, what's the name, it's just trying to finish as quickly as possible

as the money dwindling, can, I got back yeah, you did well there. And then, I'm back, I'm, not too culture, so,

so, back to here. And, Look at you, look at first, do you? You go, do you go, I'm going to do. I do, see ya, I was going to go, siaga, siagga, after you go, I was going to go camping, I was, that, that, in Cibubour, that, yeah?

Yeah, yeah, Cibur. Cibur, that's the place, Willa Bidtidg. I'm not, I didn't, I don't, I did, I do, I did, so I'm a wimp, man. I'm a whiff, man. You're music, right, you, can. Yeah, yeah.

I'm going to go go to go I'm going to go to go and I'm going to Gundo. Gundo, although I'm not too jagu yeah, but I'm more jaguant Caramble from Gondu. But Gondu, I still remember we're so first time I'm trying to make-cumpul-can other than

and the capital, that Gundu, first and we're going to comepulled, We've got to put in a box, that... That's before I got to getchinta, after I was going to look at, if I'm going to look at, I'm going to see. Okay, okay. Now, that's the in Sumatra, in Jakarta, in Wichita,

and then back. Menroot you, is more empankerue success in your, or the education in the room-tangue? If I'm going to exposure to culture that's always good to make to make upholasan your. And when I finally married and

with the home of the culture that I use for sharing and and to edict the kids, so they have to be respect for a different. Because I, So, S.D. in the school Christian Protestant. Then, then SMP, the SEMA, Catholic. So I'm...

So when I'm at the Ullia, in the world, to be a minority, because, if they're like, the people, right, right, in Dichita. So, the people Indonesia, that's very, or other, or other,

other, or other, the other, then, back, I'm working, in the that's a lot of different. So that's that's trying to start to do-in-sitig,

people, so that's being being world citizen. So they're always, are sure to be gaul with anyone, but the pediccan from your own-tow-you-mustin-sang-nepel, right?

To, um, to, uh, to, uh, to cause-sux-suxa-uh, now, the question of you, you believe in nurture, or nature? So, nature, so I'm, so I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm actually, I'm more I'm more than nurture. Because the most, you're born with something, but you are also equipped, be given, many of the other one on the other, to develop something, to get to develop something, something, so that's someone who's success is,

did live-success, or try to be able to be bentucas to be successful. I'm more I'm more more this, the results of the success of the people who have

been to make the other of the successan their They're built up to work they're not. They're their it's uprored, God book a lot, then,

and then they can't achieve success. I'm going to learn, but again, in era COVID-19, this, I'm aty-hate-a-hurture, now, I'm nother, nurture, nurture, I'm at-a-sue. Sorry, sorry, I'm not to get back, you're not.

I only just, you know, No, this is about 10 years from now, recamment this will be able to nurture. And, it's not, but it's part of... But you've already been president, right, so you can't be able to make up your own? Yeah, not. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But, but I mean, but I think, with digital yeah, like again, record the digital, the interesting

what you're going to be wrong, that's a year after this, and you have at peace, you have to

be able to yeah, yeah, yeah, that's wrong, I'm not think, I'm thinking,

I'm, I'm know, I'm remember, I'm remember, the book of Black Swan, event. Oh, yeah,

yeah, yeah. Dool, you, KATH, 2008. I think you have, you have been having to be like black swan. I'm a bit more than... You're kind of...

You're, it's just, you're... ...that you're... ...that I'm also, ...that we've got to beaqqqqaqaqaqaqaqaq... ...there's just way too many things. Permutasin't too many things, permutasiness, too,

but, if, ...in'noddivic... ...this, this is white swan. This is... ...this... There's some of some of the same I'm going to come that, can't the white swan, but it's not that many of the white swan,

we must have already what's going to do. Early warning signal is Yeah. If 9-11, there's early warning signal, dung, that's. But what's one is not COVID- but the dampak economy and

from the exogenous shock What's the one, then the government is, yeah, the government of our people, yeah. In the world that's That's the topic that. That's the topic of it.

That's not in here. So, in topic that's the government, America, can never be therebittin a policy respond like that, I mean, I'm black swan. Yeah, right, Right. Yeah, I want to ask you, this is it about your

me, what's what's in kindle with a chastal with a chalhallaan, who just to you, I'm not from... No, nobody's perfect, right? Yeah, I'm not perfect. I'm not perfect.

But when we're going to be covered, but because we're talking about my I was in the time of my, I wasaickech, I'm, I'm gonna'nigh, and I'm doing that

I, I'm going to to be in-pile like, and I'm not, not equipment that musty-you-pike that,

when it was to make, you have to make it, but because I want like that like, I'm like, I'm going to be able to like, soarer, soarer, the score's got,

the score, back, basketball, the ball I pegged, I was at the ujum, I drive, that I was, I was in the that in Ahmat Dahlan,

nimbab the ball not not, I got into, I jatto, cedera. And, in, I'm SMP.

I'ma. I'ma bad because of the same not even it's just it's a heavy sprained and then

that I'm that I'm about preparation that if we must be I'm starting to run to cut through

so, so it's a recurring Because because of the spatoo you After that I was more than that's like recurring injuries, so that's that I learned that if you want to, you know, we're going to, so,

so we're not going to get-red, I'm chederate, then, and then, the bestok-neux-y-you-go-out-jok-jah, and my friends'n't even be around because I'm cedra. So, yeah, I'm learning that that life is about good preparation. When you are about to do something, you need to be prepared. Michael Jordan, LeBron. I'm erranton yeah, bro. I'm Michael Jordan, man.

But if I look at you, I'm going to be angapingap kind of like LeBron. Uh, now, now. Yeah. Because LeBron is complete, right. He's not only can be business, not only as a athlete, but can take up,

to the same kind of political, sikonomy, the sake of social. Yeah, right. If you're more than back, if you're still in the same dimension. Yeah, Michael, this, if you're going to

Michael with LeBron, two-two-n't-diala-go. But Michael, yeah, yeah, yeah, and the last, Lebron

political stand is and he's can take a drag the with the sport is for the world. So why America and

some of the other countries in China serious-seriousing, because, because, the generation of their to the front is using their basis of their

to compete. Right. Now, this, now, with COVID, because interaction anonym, this has

been a lot of So that's more than to alaqa-a-a-a-a-a-a-trapas, kind? Who want to go-olars, again, got to be able to be able to basket, too, how do you?

Before get to the vaccine and the opat that amput in COVID, this, this is this is a lot of for industry for the otheragga, for industry

permusica. Just then just about putrean by Peter Gwanda. So, Dewey? Oh, Francois. Francois. So, Francois, about Dewe.

How? There's a solution, not? Yeah. Yeah, but, but, there's,

there's a hybrid, there's a car, maybe 30, and then the rest of the, virtual, but that's not ideal. So, I think I'm sorry, yeah, we're sadal. And maybe this virus, COVID-19-19,

this, making-ingot-down to slow down. Because, it's not that we're slow-down, many things that we're not looking when we're... ...wark, or, uh, teckon gas, to pull, that's...

...all that's... that's just fundamental that we're that we've got to beaed book, when I was spill press, things that you only notice when you slow down, that's really, that's when we slow down, we're going to be sure that's all the time.

Positively, you're going to be able to take it for granted? You, you're aleraga, how many, a week, or? Now, six times a week. Okay. Six times, six times, one day, rest in a day. Lari, basketball? Lari, basket, um, berenang,

spedda. Okay. Speedda, how many times a week? Wow. Because I... Are you one of those, who pull-one kilo, if next peda? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, how, how many, yeah, Well, actually, there's more... ...gawrish, but... ...the, I'm not in your camp, man. Yeah, I'm not in your camp, man. Yeah, not it's not really like, oh, oh, like this time. Then, berenang?

Berenang, yeah, we're, we're, actually, before COVID, this, with the friends, like, going to go to go to ironman, that's the renang of four-killed, so, so, yeah,

about two, two-and-a-killed. I'm going to be able to discipline 20 minutes just. Oh, 20 minutes, that's the only. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now I found out that for longevity, the other than the other than the best is,

because not, not, uh, impact to dungul, and join. Spedda, too, but, but, can, the speed, the risk, it's the- -sepada, I heard, But I just can't square the circles. Yeah, the spedda is, and if we're not alert, there's a lot of chaos, and in this again.

So we're going to be in technology, we're using trainer, if you're in gym, whatever you do, man, you're fit, you look fit, stay fit. Now, I'm going to ask you, you can be a book, can be many. from from the sysiology, from the sysip-pawpun, like, what's what's what for you?

Banyl, yeah. But if in context Indonesia, in the people, who I'm really, William Shurajaya, in front I'm great. Sto-stoo. If you, check. If you look, and from the leadership in Indonesia,

that's all leaders that we've ever president, great, everyone, great, I think I'm just. And if the people of the people who helped shape my mind of my mind, in the a while, yeah, Warren Buffett, that's shape the people.

Check, I'm, if at the end of the time who are much active in KADIN, see what I'm looking at UMKM, I'm looking at model that's the developed by Muhammad Yunus, the most

for for the great. And in Indonesia, there's the the talk of the who's not that's not Mubiarto,

Pambang Ismawan, the talk of talk who who, really out of this world, that, to, because,

Because as much you're you're more you're more than you're not, you know, it's good to know what you don't know. Yeah, exactly. A lot of people don't know what they don't know. That's the way. It's the that's the very, that you know. You know what you don't know.

You know what you don't know. Yeah. That's the black box. That's the black box. That's black box. That's black box. Now, this is a little, what, what's orientation or philosophy business you,

in session that's before me, I just mentioned Warren Buffett. Cren really in financial capital allocation. But there's also camp that one about human capital allocation. You, you, you're more, in the financial capital allocation efficiency? I'm biased because I'm in industry

in the industry of the economy and investsati. But then to come like, you know, hey, there are people behind numbers, there are people who are people who are people. This, this, the number, can, actually, the number of people, like as a jago Warren Buffett, but if not have CEO who's in Coca-Cola or J-Lat, it's not even, he's got,

he's been a return on investment like that. So, I've seen, yeah, and I've learned from mentors, mentor, like, Daddhi Rahmat, who's focused on human development. Check.

So I see. I look, yeah, I have to start to give, um, if there, if there's resources,

too, to, of the development of the human resources. And in that's it was, I got to have one of the one of the pan-dangu-in-infrastructural, you're still-stut-a-stut-be-ed. But I was in the put-pendapat that if I had 100-rupiah,

that allocations of the sumber-dai manusia, I will I'll bea-lebin. Because if, of the suburb of infrastructure, or suburb data that can be doney with non-government resources. It's fund or can be bi-a-a-i-a-i-a-eoled

private, in concept public-private partnership and, or even the genus of the other. So, now, more than ever, I think I'm not really, yeah, human resources allocations that really, really, really optimal,

yeah. In the kind of now, yeah? Yeah, I agree, we'll look, really not we put our human resources that's in the sector that's most important, like health? This, this, you know, the vaccine only the same-mating,

do we have the right resources, not, from that's that? Maybe 10, 15 years from now, we think, it's not our human resources. We're heavy more into this. Yeah, that's the way. Misallocation of resources. That's right.

And the impact that will be very, very long-term. Very, very long-term, dampak, that's, I'm not much of the make or break of an entire nation can at risk because we misallocate resources that in accountancy, there's still there is still, said, deferred cost.

Differed cost. This is endgame. Episode endgame How much more than we mainstream UKM this? Because UKM, it was important, but jargon, so jargon, jargon, jargon, political.