Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Belajar Negosiasi dan Ambil Kendali | #Endgame ft. Khofifah Indar Parawansa (Part 2)

Episode Date: October 2, 2020

Nilai-nilai kepemimpinan yang sudah teraktualisasi sejak kecil membentuk Khofifah menjadi seorang yang melawan status quo. Hal ini ditunjukkan dengan pengalamannya sebagai mahasiswa pertama yang diizinkan berjilbab di kampusnya, juga pengalamannya di bidang politik sebagai anggota DPR, ketua parpol, dan Menteri Pemberdayaan Perempuan. Bagi Khofifah, peran perempuan di bidang politik sangatlah penting untuk merawat good governance dan clean government.

What do you know what Viva? I don't want perinian woman, Gussur. I want to make of the people. What's better is? Women's role. If you're doing for women's role, if you're doing power, how to empower, Gusser. This is NG. I'm a lullus SMA, then to Erlanga.

Yeah. Now, it's just to tell you, What's what? What about? What about? What? No, I'm here. I'm not.

No, I'm going to be able to be a governor, but. So, if you're not going to be a governor, Bu. So, so how I'm going to how I'm adaptation, so, so we're,

we're still, we're back, yeah, to the 838-8-4. In 183, there was a docent in UNER that used to and then in here, or left Zilbubb. Yeah, 8.8.4, I'm going to Nader. Yeah, like, I've never been changed.

What's the... For what, for activists like I, who's not even, that, Pat. So, so if I're going to doodung like I wud. I've got to dolaid, I wud, wud, I've done, with a camera, you can't even. Now, I was in the age of four, I was a mahasiswif'i,

and one of the other. Then, it's been with, you, who's name, who's name, Hauwifah, you're going to ask for you from here, T'C, take just, I said, I said, I said,

I'd say, So I'm not that's, I'm the owner, I was used for the UNAWB. I was used to give up. When that, all the docent, we're back in the Alam Orde-Barru, then, the other one's one that just after I,

some, then, this, finally, it's been made model, so. In DPR, too, So, Pat Gita. So now, 2009, I'm going to be in B.R. Wow-diala-R. One of the one of the one that's

like Jilbap. For me, it's not just. But, yeah, like, like this is, but I'm going to do. Kroodong, if you know, the price of $9,000, $10,000. We've not just to tell.

It's like, it's more more than $9,000, because you're making, Maybe it's just one of the 8,000, 9,000. Yeah, for me, what's the most of the time. It's enough, it's just. Now, the pola that I've done, I'm a lot of my much at the masjit, at least, with Mas Wahyu, Wahyu Muriadi.

Yeah, yeah, he's a friend-lame. He was, he was the he, he was the first. He was still alim, yeah? I also, I'maugh, I'm going to be like, man Gosser. Hey, Mas Wahyu, why I'm like, but I'm going to be like, like, like, so I'm going to make a chelana-pangangue. So, if I'm taking my cladne long,

like blus, like this, just from the old model I, like this. Now, it's, I've been trying to make I'm not even more more than I'ma-inclair I'm not too active in Hymaprodi Subunasque Programme Study of Political

I've got just made people make and I'm going to I'm not I'm going to see, if they're looking survey

what, to look at I'm going being in I'm in the land in a lot of some of the place we're making in pro-Bolingo. Saq Kampung, that's a kampong, it's,

it's about basa madura. So I just can't get back I had a class 4 S.D. That's what, what, but, but it's, but it's, but I'm not, I'm not, how much,

the world, in the Jawa Timur, so that's about Madura pendalungan, Madurah, Taval-Qudha, from from Pasuruan, from Ghan, to Bondo, Bondo, Wosjjember, that the community rural, they're, they're, even with communication with Baza,

so now. So, so... So, I think that, we're about something that's something that's true that's been able to

make sure, that's something, that's something that they're very much to do it. But, but,

it's, if there's some, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, Now, beaure what, Bu, what the faculty?

I'm from a lot of course. Wow. And I'm in casepatter, so, why do you know. Why do you know, book? Obie or disurrooos or what? Yeah, disurro. I'm here, Ma'Kita.

I got P.M.D.K. from F.K.H.H. Okay. So, what? So why doctoran heiwain, because of the my, it's also, it's a part of my, after pension, then,

my father, and I'm going to be able to make end up to do it. E, I'm not even can't I get PMDK, I'm from from, that's, we're,

this is a man-ed-eat-a-o-o-a-lop-a-lop-o-lip-sai not-be-be-be-cue but, But I was because of the because of my kakakins my because of my own up to-doin'n. Now, it's just so, after that,

I mean, you must have, you just, you know, visit. So, that, I, that, I, did get, had,

there, can, the, that's, that, the one, one, one of the time I test, I've used,

U-Sip-U-N, not I've tested, the place, the other, Thank you. Because it was from D.DK. Well, finally, then I'm going to Visip Uner, the illmoo-politic.

So, there's not many, the jurorses of the government-o-o-tap-uner, but vis-uner is a political. And, when I was sure, I, I, had to get a class that that was there there was,

of, uh, from thexia-is-a-is-a-sala because in thea-polauretory-politic, in there, the theory Kal-Maxe, so dialectica materialism. So I, in 185, made get a chance of the time of the German, then to English, and then in the process reformation industry in there, how much, there's there's

there that's alineate that's alienation, he's tracing from the dirhurtigna, from the product of, from the workahannes, now, even if we're too too,

if we're too, I'm saying gadget, I'm afraid, that we're being to be in the linguanguant our And it's and it's already

But, if you, if, if you, if you, to take the political or the of the government, I'm going to take what? If I'm more than,

more than than more than because I'm used in a small whatever, we're used to we're used making decision.

So we're not no, public policy, but we have to have decision. We have to decide. We have to decide.

We have to decide. Like that. So that's because in the political, I've been I'm not much, because, can, you know, what, uh, the world, forbundinging of, like, then, territory of politics, it will be more

kental. Because, because, pro-D-in is the policy, not the government. But I... But I...

...augh, I think, ...that much, ...andand how much... ...that ... ...but, this, this, this, this, this, this, woman or woman to the

I'm more than, I'm more than more than the more than the people, in the people, or in politics, to the other, the same thing. The same, the political, this is

it will be making the people of the people, in the government, he will manage how good governance, green government, same, Okay. This is, it's the political,

he'll be the legislative, let's say, legislative, this, process politic, if it's the law-undang-undang-un-undan, this is, it's the academic draft. But,

when it's in DPR, this will be the process political, and product also product-public- So, so, it's...

50-50, yeah? Yeah. I'm going to be in all these. It's, right? I'm, that, Bu. Now, this is, from Uner, I'm going to school, Dakhwa.

Oh, that's right. So, so, Oh, back. Even more, I was, I want to be

being, she wanted I want to be doing, so since the SMA, I was still school two. I'm first. I'm in the class two SMA. I have I have a majora same. That's what I'm going to be in the academy,

faculty, daw in there. and I was that I'm going to docketing. And I still, I'm going to process that, that's what then I got but, I'm not even I'm not evened I'm using that I'm using that I'm using that I'm using that's

that I'm taking to do you. So, I actually, I'm having that's same class 3 SMA. So, so, you know, that? Wow.

Yeah, that's. I want to be so, she's a little, she's a one of

I've had I've had I'm want, I'm want I'm so much, she's just very

there, there, there, there, buny, didn't, have, and,

and, But right? If I, if I'm in Jakarta, if I'm from Malitnavi, I can five titic, though, I'm five. Five titic, that's five. That's protein and calories, all that? No. So, I'm overweigh, until now. So, if five, I mean,

I have a beacut, that's five. In my car, it's many, because, it's with such-cita, and that's about, this is for the day of the Muhammad, Salawah, a lau, al-Aisalam. Imagine that's a man, and that's notheran, it's good, and inshawawawwbuck, and it's all right,

and it's all right, now, now, there's many, the areas, the area, if maulit, it's, it's, it's all of the Islam, and then,

they've brought what just that's what's about, they're they're going to be able to beaughan. And that, I'm not going to be able to be able to beaugh, you know, to be it's about, to bea my own, I'm going to bea just, I'm going to bea just, I'm going to,

yeah, and I'm, I'm going to doa, and I'm not-ra-ra-lian-the-a-tola I'm also, I'm also, wow, yeah, inspiration, I'm also, for all of the people of the other people,

then, you're in the U.I, can, amylaas two? Yeah, that, so, so, so, so I,

I'm, I'm in DPR, I'm in 2009, yeah, 2009, oh, nine, okay,

you, after that, I'm, We've been, we're at the Pimpinning Commission. So there Prof Fahruddin al-Mahum, who, who was rector Unhas, said, Bukoviva,

so, I'd like to bea-culea like, so, it's a lot, in a mobile, we're at depot, not at, sometimes, yeah, sociology, we're in depot. Alemba?

Banyanna. Some matalya in depot. Amble what, B, B, S2s? Malachalore. Mahalore. That's how? That's two,

two, or one, or one, more? More. Okay. But, but, you're the

young, or one of the one of the woman? That's the Masha, So. So,

some Mazzal national, that's been that's that's there, there's that time that, the time there's the time there

some time, there's that there's some time, there's, there, that's, you know, then, I'm going to be made by Gussdur, so, and there's process,

there's another, back 97, 97-98, process reformation, that, right? Yeah, Ibu, you're just vocal, that, that, what, that's the, how about the dynamics of that? So, actually, in fact, I think I'm the head of the fraction MPR, P.3,

P.3, P.I.U.S.A.M.A. , al-Mah, Mr. P. U.S. Sakhir, is, He's righty-like, like that's like a lot like liar, they're like, I'm activist. Then, Buya Ismail Hassan Metarium, Ketauwam, Partai, that's also, so this, this, I'm at-is-a-u-drama, I'm used to, I'm saying, I'm talking about tempo.

So, assistant in-room-tank, I mean, I was that's it's about the other that's about it's that's about that I'm back there's a lot of it, Permanangu-demandation-um

Pertangu gawapan President, there, at the SIDANG UMUMMPR TIPA, this, two people in the room that, I could end-endarked

and then, he then, he's, not critic, he's about to me, I'm saying, that's what I'm about. And why? Why? Why? Begative, this, assistant at the room that

said that. Then, we're going to be able to. And then, there's tradition that's good, at P3 that, anyone, who, who want to beckarum, in forum, forum plenu, apolaki, should have at all done. All right, and I'm going to make make make make sense. There's a tradition that, I think I'm very good.

Now, the hiriririn nasca, I've been I'm saying, Jürkam, not Juergakam, ma'gitta, Cumpan we're gonna'am! Campa'n'uctor, we're gonna'n'u'n, why? How's it? Is it? It's not out, because what I'm gonna'u'er,

because what I've been what I'm not same with my heart of my. Oh, that's-oddh-oh. I think that's howviva, why I said that's I'm saying hebat, is Maya Ismail Hasan Metarium and Paiusuf Shakir. When I said, no, hofifah, maybe there's a problem, that, and they'd be called, why hof,

that's the sound not out, yeah, pa, not same with the sound of my hearty I. I said that. So, how, so, how do you know, what I'd like I'd like to give in-eign-eign-muevot-nast-sendary? Then he said, what's notot, it's about it's about it, bapakus, I'll just make me putean,

I'll bea putaska, now, I'm going to make, that's casca. Malam I've made, the time 9, we're plenow, the day, the day, in Paripurna, the same umpire.

So, so much can't, because, uh, Yeah, that wasaumann humogyn. Humogyn, yeah? Now, when there's a sound that's

it's been a lot of people that I've got to reformation politic. Reformation politic is a that's very hindered at that, and so so, so,

maybe, yeah, maybe, I'm, I'm making, I'm not even. Why? There's one who's like,

how do you think about, from what's it? From from... From from... ...the night. ...weewee we didn't do, but we're that, but that's about that's it.

That's the story. Wow, wow, that. Wow, that. If people who are reformation politics, now, ma'amacan-harmes' today, but in 2008, 2008, that's the story of reformation political.

BEDAW. BADO. Now, fast forward to 99, Ibu, did MENTRI, PEMBORDAIA, that's right, not just, so, so, so,

so, how, that, bu, process it? Because I know, before, before, it was applied, but it's, staff in there. That,

apply. I'm notar CPNS. Daftar CPNS, BKKBN, Surabaya. Then I'm going to be able to be a government, like, then I'm going to beckxed, eh, gagged, so, after, I'm going to, after, Gusur made part-time, I'm, I'm called Gustur.

That's one of the first one of the first one, then, then, Gusser, it's just, I'm just. I'm a bandahara party, not partay, a group, and then with Gusser, and then he'd have been asked to one of one Ketua, so, just then,

Let's that, It's up, it's up, got, it's about, the KUCHOBA's going to be president. And I'm, I'm a person who is the,

I'm a kutkutkner, I'm, this, Gostur, when that Gostur was in, Wisman, not in the Istananan. In there, I was the

the people who's the people A, Tamu B, Tamu C, who's, while we're giving up Aspiration in the Kementryan, you know, Pat Gita. So I, I'm in the part of course Nilspuni Chalon-Mentry, the story of one of one of the

Professor Saparina Sadi I'm calling, I just said, I just I'ma said that wasa'u'u'u' to be a because Ibu d'u'i'anan womanita, before before, time 11th, yeah, I was called by Suparina Sadli. Can I was I was also wakil Ketua DPR that? I was a wakil of DPR,

Not because it's very long. Now, it's just, when we're seminar seven million people of the world, I'm going to be in DQI. Then, at 1,000, Dr. Sadri, this, Tsepah, Havh, you just who's who! You're just who's who?

You? I'm who called to be a mrs. So, I'm too old to become minister. He said, I'm too old to become minister. Oh my god. Wow. Yeah. Am I'm about you're about 70 years. Where's the story?

Tadde, that was Guster said, "'Gusur, I'm just, I'm just, "'I'm just, if I'm not''am' just, "'what, Gaut'i'n't you, who's just, "'What, Gutsu'i'i'". "'Well, Gussar'i'." "'We, this, in-t-in-harm, about, "'Chemines, about, about, about,

one one was one, was one has one has been hazbollah emsaat. That was the minister, him. He was also, he was also, I'm going to beaughaned, because there's breaking news, kind of, that's why wea, he's going to be a minister, now.

After that, I'm going to be back to DPR, then I telephoned, P. Alwis, I'm going to get-kras, five, sorry. I'm not going to be a minister, I said, That, that Al-Wi, he said,

Boho Viva, don't be that's just, this is just being the umpuncans president, I said, like, I'm like, I'm, I've said, MENTRIPRAMANN-WANTA, Bubarakan. Maia, not? Addo, that, that,

that's really, bethersa, it's in the Bucan. I, this, this, MENTRIATIF. Why, I said, MENTRIATIF. Why, I'm saying, the people of the committee of the women who

does it, ma'amaraan what, $9 million? Comission $8,000, so I said, if $9 million, when that's $9 million, the hope of the people are great, this era reformation, expectation, expectation of big,

$9 million can make what? Oh, how, I'm like, I'm like, I'm more than the wakil-kotua DPR, spectrums more than a lot, I'm going to, don't that if you, Bo Hovifa, Viva, besok, I'll get to Gostur, so on, I said, I said, Gostur, I don't want to be a minister.

So, so, that's the story. Then Gostr said, Howeufa I want. If that's that, if that's it, President. Not that's not we're going to say what, because of the way, I said, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, one-gate policy system.

That's it's about time, it's not bad, one-gate policy system. What that, Gussur, this, Gussur, we have problem of the education of the women, we have problem of the health of women, We have problems, we have problems,

we have a lot of women that, that's actually, because he was used that was not enough friendly with the health of the women. What do you? What do you, Gistur,

be it agaran, the part of the department, but policy in the Kmeneran of the government the world at the war, the woman-kid policy, that. And what's the other, Gusser,

WANCOLSI-QED policy system. Then what's what more, what do you, Mbha, I don't want peran of a woman, Gussur, I want to beaer I'm a better-notes. I didn't say the difference of the

women and the power English, I'm saying Women empowerment. Women's rule, if you're if you know how to empower, sir. Top. So, sir. To say, sir.

Dapangue, sir, called, please, this, Bawwifah, Degark, this, he's, this, this is the name of the women,

then, he wants, one-gate policy, that's, it's, it's, that, the pre-p-pressed, that, the pre-mencannes of the

the government of the people. I'm actually, I'm notar that Gustav, how if the women's of the women and a child? So, don't, not, now, now, now, don't nominclature of the minister. And, and if you're just going,

then, then, then, then, menclature of the so that, then after that's after that after KKK BKK BN PUSING I'm

because I was I'm at that I'm, I'm not my, my son, my, and then the

story is a specific, so, maybe, and then, tell us, that, what, Ms. Hopifah, this is about, this is about quality of family, resilient,

that's important, the That's just repot. I do, do you know, I'm at least. I was actually, I was supported by Press WaterhouseCoopers. So, actually,

who also had a pran much better, in my name is, was that the Pimpinan Press Waterhouse Cooper. I was given free, free of charge, all.

Maybe... ...cuh Kuiper my. So, that, That's when I was support for retreat. Retreat, this is the team of the people who are the people who are the same thing, there's, the conclusion is,

the yukia is not only two but the other, but the quality, well, I'm, so it's about two, three, but it's a lot, but, but I'm just about it, not something that's not yet, I was that was done to make up to make the KKKBN that's vertical

in the KKBN, the KVN, the United, because from there, then, if we're said, if we're saying merit system, bureaucracies, our impersonal,

that, I'm really, I'm getting a room that It's a squadron, the BKKBN that's great-bain, that's just BKK, which instanti-vertical, can make assessment and

it's support by the the level, the best-the-Hauscoopers. Wow, that's, this is endgame. The episode Endgame The United

11thapotan Kota in Jawa Timur this will Pelkada Serentat So they can keep keep up So, so the penewasaan political

penelisian democracy can be on, education can support, UMKM and BUMDES also can

support support.