Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Bhante Uttamo: Segalanya Tidak Kekal

Episode Date: May 26, 2021

Bhikku senior Sangha Theravada Indonesia, Bhante Uttamo bicara rahasia meditasi, moralitas dalam penggunaan teknologi, dan apa yang terjadi jika kenyataan tidak sejalan dengan harapan manusia.

Problems, whatever even though, is it really? If we can, if we can't, we can't give a point of that, not the only thing, Miseshanna just. Bisa'a. ... ...isain what,

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Bantei, thank you very on the visitan. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr. Gita, atasks upon that I'm giving to be able

to talk with a naras-sumber that can give inspiration. And, and, it, inspiration,

to be marra from I'm still, so much, and vision to the future. If you can't be able to be able to tell the Panty, when I'mtah, and then how,

so how much, Mungo? Yeah. I'm, am I'm from from a buddha, so if you're

looking my looking my because the t'picku, because the appearance, Then, then, all ofeshoris, and then, you know,

and then people are people who are people, "'It's from a little, "'sodhudous?' "'We can, we're from the "'that's from the other than "'theirchid, "'it's more open, "'legged, more tolerant,

"'sifact. "'So, in one of one "'theirer not buddhist, "'and in a one of a "'a-one one agamable, "'it's not a matter. "'So, not a child, "'with a kaka.

"'So, with my, that's different. The other, what's the other? Not buddha's just. Okay, yeah. So, then I'm little, I'm just, first, you know,

to go to be a lot of the other, because we're a-a-lark-kind. We're at one or there, 100, 200, meter, like, from our house that's a place of abad. And then, yeah, we're, if we're, if we're in-sit-a-bada,

in there, then in school, with a religion that's not buddhys. Then, then, plan, plan, plan, I'm later, I'm going to get a new school, when I was D. Sometimes,

I'm saying, if when I'm going to make me, you, bangun, school, be it's pinter. Maybe pinter.

Maybe the other for people. But I'm just to be it's a biter. Yeah, if you're going to be able to be it, okay. Then I'm just, I'm just like that. Then, in school, also that's also. Guru is going to say, there's a question this.

Who can't answer? He, pinter. And that's not able to answer, you know, t'pinter. So, I'm not that I'm not. why, why people have to be better and not pinter?

So, so I'm not really the world that's the people who are a moret biter. Smakin to the blackang, it means the murid is the more than the more than the most

not pinter. So I'm not really, why we have to like that. That's what made, that's what I'm going to make, then I'm trying to tell you, to guru agama I'm,

why? Why, manusia, this, bad, why, they're not, pint.

Then, guru, mygamer, I'm going to say, yeah, that's, And then, every one's different. Why is the reason?

Yeah, that's a real. We don't know that. What I'm saying? Why is it? Agamah, why? There's a lot. I'm still, I'm still as I said. Yeah, I said,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm thinking like in the dalam. Then I'll just. Malkin'i d'alani, the more than it's more. So if you know, if you can't even if at the time in a lot of the kids, who's kind of,

tendering more than more than get from the friends'emone. Or, like, who's like to interact with, who's not-cair, and I'm just a way. And I'm just, this is a strange too. And when I'm just,

human can't be able to be it's not-cair. The answer is, yeah, this is we don't know. So I'm raja many things that are a-dashy-a. Now, then I'm doing process to try agamah. Even, after, after, after, A, learn of a, and other than other than other than C, and many of the other than I'm saying

I'm still, I'm going to be able to learn why, manusia are different. The answer is, we're not too, we're not to know, this is a rachia. Then, I'm,

I'm about 20, because I'm a high-sissue I've got to do with God about. Because this is what I've been able to be able to be able to do. Because, we had a friend of SMA, but I, for me, I more like to bully him. So, sometimes, people say, this is anti-Buddhist.

Yeah, I used to bully. One of the one of the ones, Sometimes in buddhys, there's a lot of the buddhut. Sadu, that's what I mean, what is that? This is apuuu. Wow, this is anti-Buddhutsis, but I'm at that I'm just,

I'm trying, I want to know what about what about. So I'm then, I'm going to Wihara in Jokja, there's a Cetia Buddha Prabha. because that's one one wehara at that I know. And I'm also,

yeah, maybe this is a place that I can't be able to be able to be there. Oh, wow. He's about there. Now, then I'm going to beckyam. Now, I'm going to, ...asu, because clentang,

And there's, there's a naga, there has a... There's a lot of the terrace-kentang-needed, it's usually, there's a pilar, there's a psalang, that, right, I'm just, because I'm still anti-Buddish. I'm still anti-Buddish. Then I'm asking that same.

Inurloth, buddha, is the other than the other than better? Why is there that's a biter, not-pinter, kya, or not-kya, health-sac-sac-sac-sacit-an, long-umur, and other,

then, and then, and, That's because, because because we're not the first so why he's

because there's because there can't in many life before he's been many many mhooksha

so that if we're to nanam paddy tumpo padi if we're making upluck out that, you can't

comeally buhance to beaughan on the other than we ask you tell you, what's the fact that's why because if it's going to bein'clock if you're still, if we're going to be able to be a good if we're doing good, be done for money,

misdain, gents and, and, and the other than the other people, can be able to be able to be able to be. If you're in a lot of people, then if you're not able, then if many, it's a lot of inspiration

to people, this is, can inspire, can be inspired people, can be able and can be able,

and it's the kind of from the from the It's been brought up to know So, there's people who's about, but pura-pura not know, it's been being people who are not panned.

And many things that are you that's just like that. Then I'll ask, boktiny is what? Then, the person is one of the people of the greek in

Jethia Buddha Prabha. He was always if you're in the people, the pillar of naga, maybe in the airs, or whatever, the water can't be able to be able. Then, he's been jacob. Buktying that, in Europe, in that time,

there's been there theory hypnosis. So, there are people with that's in hypnosis, he's he says, he's going to be it. When about, you know, why, you, come up on the back of the body there, there's, what, say,

what, Tosh, that, what, Tanda Tava, birthmark. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm like a Baja Jokh.

Because I'm not in Georgia. So, there's tohna, maybe like this is a part of it. Yeah, a time of that. Yeah, the time of that. Yeah, and then, that's hypnosis. And he can get to the half-pahap to remember the life before you.

One of the one of the, I was in the penjara, in Germany. Then, the penjara this, if I look at the window, I can see there like a perempatent jane, there's a pylarser. Now, in the jendela that, I've seen see in the world.

Because I, you know, the place in the penjara is in there, I like there in there. Penjara, there is there. And sometimes if I'm I'm just to giggit ticus. In one of the time, I did giggit ticose and the place infectsia,

and the place in everyday, it's mouso. And, so, after I'm, I'm not because of that. Inattant that's the place that's the looka that, that's that actually, that's, it's that, that's condition-and-a-lis-can-condycourt. Now, then the other than hypnosis this,

and then, in Germany, in the German, what, in the time, in the time, there, there was a time in the time, there's time there,

and then, they're trying, in many of the in Germany, where, who had beenjara, the other, and then,

and then, and then, it's not been Then the same place, still the tughan the middle that's not there. So, the end, this is the right.

This is the right. And, it's simply like that. Then there are a when in hypnosis, he can sing a lago. They're a person but can sing a lago with a barra.

Wow. With fascist, but the other But the other than in other words arepahed in some of the other time that's about, but when he's in the other than in the other than the other human hypnosis, he's not able to bea-bhasa. And that's many many, examples of those. Now, for me, the answer this is more

I'm not just the other I'm not just a lot, but I'm more than I'm more than I'm more than I was in the three-bushed I'm in the front of discussion then I'm going to go.

So, after three months after three-month, then, then, and then, activity, the ritual. If you can't be intensive, discussion? For the day, every night.

Every day, every night. So, at 6 o'eray, until 12, 12, malam. Wow. Tiyap day. Because he, who, even, that, is,

every day, so. So, we discusses, then we're just, and we're just, So, it's just to-cocic. And I'm going to start, and I started, and I'm going to learn. What this is?

I've discussed. This is what? Bucing of Buccaan? Because I'm really, abucoma buddha. Because in the time I, book of the Gama Buddha is soly soot.

Jumla bicku, too, I'm not even to meet. I only get to tell you, if at the television, there mimbar of Gama Buddha. In the 80, yeah? So, I mean I, I tried to book in the Pursaka'an Wihara'i'i, I said,

I'll read, and I think, ah, the practice of the the most of the most of the buddhs for buddha, for the practice of the buddhae who's the most the most of the buddhae, so that in 2008-2 I'm beteked, I'm going to be bigot. Then, the people,

the people of the group, that don't be that much percée. Why can't you can? I can. Can't be able? Wow. From here, I'm going to begued. Wow.

If you're going to begu, I'm making a pester of a different. Oh, yeah, remember, bye, yeah. You're going to bea-bye-bye, you're going to bea-bucting. Yeah, it's a good. The keyhikina of the three-six-month? Because I'm not, I have to act-can-d-d-lure. I have I have also

I'm also, I'm buchy can to my my father's actually actually, I was actually when I was D. So, what is my who are my who made upher and and so again.

I have to make uptick to give me that after Ibu misholacan she, until I'm up, I'm going to be able to be able to. So, so that's when I'm going to bego, it's not to be able to be able to from school, not to be lariqan from economy.

Then, I also have to be able to make make sure mental Ibu-sai-u-sha-u because of my child to beacue. Because when I was in 2008-2, when I'm going to begu, I'm going to becko, wow. So, that was when it was a while I'm going to come.

Then I'm going to mow. How, if I'm being bicku? Yeah. Biku is what? Because, I'm, well, not buddhys. Then, yeah, biku, yeah, of the wayhara, which the

peratturation is like, beginning, beginning. And then, then, he was not abys. Then, he out from the room to comeer, and then he'llangis. Then,

the night, night, when I'm at in the room, When there's a lot of things that's what this? What's what? Then I'm going to have a bader of a barang peaches like

caca, like, caca, it's a peccas. And I came out, it's out, it's all right, bingsan. So, Ibu'saia, can have a some of the same of the mah. So if stress, mah is comat. Maha'n'amah, then they want to be back. So, when she's going to beck.

to the back on the back. It's all the back and the head's nabra, nabrake, nabra of the cacha. So there, there, a lot of the cacca that for the and the other, sobeck at this,

oboeck at here, oh, that, that, I was I was baringed, then I was balook, then I was balook, I'meruncan.

Yeah, this, I'm a bit of course of being so big a lot of biased. I have to be able to give you because maybe the thing's why, because it's not, because you're thinking, you know, you're not only making a lot of different. Because now, now, because now even injolani that.

So, the end, it's still debalut, I'll always merenonged. that I've got to be able to make up to make sure that I'm I'm just about who's good at least of my my mother's going to to be able to my kakken my other Krakka's 6-bun. Now,

I mean, in 36-bunct-bunuched, I'm input data as a maximum to the most of the most of the most to the most of the most of the most intonement. Why you're going to be? Why you're going to be sad? Why I'm going to be sad when the other

people who are bad? Maybe I'm going to beaute, to be a good. But yeah, you're still still. There's one other one other one other. Right, if you want to beacue, can have to have a tundatang from the people. to have to be it's a lot of it's not as if it's

hard to be it. Then I'm not saying to my mother's, I'm going to be happy, not? Yeah, I want to think that's a lot of her. As a woman, as a woman, it's wader, to think the child is a bigot. Now, I'm, this, the bigot. So, I guess, yeah, just now.

Yeah, it's just the only only just because not just to talk about other than that's right. Like that's, yeah, we're doing it's not a time. Then I'm adjudiccant, I'm adjudiccant, the termed our organization, the land our language isangas, Sangha,

Sangat Tirawad, Indonesia, the place I'm now, people who are going to be able to be itchews. Now, then, past 36-bucket that, in 2008, my friend I said, this I've got to be a different this, I'm going to be sure-wis-udah.

Because, so, I'm going to be working that, since I'm still semester one. So, so I'm going to be able to get Shep Sanata-Dharma. semester one, the

the head of the school that I was going to learn in the class, you're going to teach you from here. Oh, yeah, so, so I'm going. I've got to, I've got

worked, I've got to so much of the so. So, then, the, uh,

the, of the, time, the time, a little bit more than what's much. Then I'm saying, to the people of the team of the students I'm going to say,

so I'm going to do with you I'm going to be a chalon biko. I'm going to be called Sama Nera. So I'm going to becalo so if, if, even if we should, I'm going to jubah. So,

So now, the question's still-sulid, if I'm not able to answer, I'm not gawang-gapag. Because I'm not going to be able to bellow. I'm going to beaugh. And, the end up, you know, well, lullus.

But it's really lulled, not it's not that, but it's not that, but, actually, not beersulid. And I was also the other than I'm also. Yeah, I'm also, with my mother's, and my brother's other than I'm not Buddhist,

Paman's say, and the other. In our family, there's not a Buddhist. Because, we're, we're, we're, in Joghya, and Jokhya, this, Agamah Buddha, in that time that, not really, so that there's not there's not

There's not there's not what they want to know what What's made me, who's so, so they're going to be able to do with a while They're going to be able to bea-go. Then, when you've used jubah, tonne-lapan-lapan-Darma, I've got to know, there's still there photo, if I'm still there photo,

but if notata-Dharma may not know, because, But today, there's never that's using jubah jubahs a bigot of course. Pasti just. Yeah, only one.

If you can't watch on the show again. If you're just as a pastoran, because Chanata Sharma, can be a Catholic, is, it's, and then, I'd be with Nira. Yeah. Now, then I'd be with Nira.

If I can ask, how can't ask you? when she was a woman's a manned. Because I'm not only, but my mother's my mother. But I'm still plong, you know, depending on the three times before you. I'm going to bego that, I'm being a good. Then I, I, you know,

I'd have to come to the room, so that don't even to feel like the because, if it's been able to bego She's going to go back to her home. I guess I'd becunjong. I'd becunjou, then, yeah, he'd gobrel with him.

Yeah, still, he'd be many of the last two years, yeah, but after that, you can't, melepas.

Now, then, I'm going to another, that one time, one time, then, then,

Thailand. This is very interesting. Yeah, to beaup because at the time in Indonesia, there's been a facility. Penapisance biku is there, can't have been a peratturaance. And, that, it's not there's a facility. If it's now, it's just there.

I'm also the unkattas-angat-angat-an-pals for penapisance in the world-negris in the other-negris. In-baw-baw-s, that I'm in Indonesia. I'm taking in Thailand, I'm trying to learn Thai with all the other

the difficulties, the most of the same, and then I'm going to be tabis in there. Then I, I'm rather, I've got, I was, I was, I'm,

meditation. From, how? So, if the small S.D. Wow. Cisd. So, this is a good, now, chronology. So it's true, right.

Yeah, but chronology. Yeah, it's been made up here, it's still, so I'm under-mooder, maybe. Because of the condition in Joghja also, there is a medit,

and other, and then, even, even, film-hilim that I've been still gawr, so we have one of the house that. Sometimes, if I satay, I'm going to be in the back of the room, you know what's about the lawn jambu's there. I don't know what that's what it's done, what it's been to be able to be long. Then, in S&B, I have a guru.

Guru, the guru, the guru, The other than the guru PMP, the P. The other than the world of POMP. Guru is unique. He, if he's not not the PMPMP's that, so much curriculum.

He's the story of meditasi. Wow. So, so, I'm not so much. I like. I'm not. This, this is what I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

So, in time, sometimes I'm at SP, he's a lot of the room's very. If from my house, he's room's far. So if we're from Jakia. My dad's from Georgia. Oh, great. Oh, great. It's very big, so often.

Now, the house that's in the area of Passar-Krangan, Tugu, if the people, Tugu can the most It's the most of the most of the most of the group of the hotel Ambar Rukmo, the hotel Ambar Rukmo, it's just a lot of the other than I'm going to and I'm a-Septia and I'm a SMP. Bukh.

Bucan, who's not even if you're dead-deged, you, it's just a lot of the out of the city. We're on a-speda. to guru, special, many meditatation, what, that's what I'm going to, that's about,

I'm going to be a lot of the other, then, also, book, books, and then, and other, so, that's all the good,

my, and I'm, since, the same, of the time of the development, though. Bandle. Yeah, but it's just getting tumbled, d'inspiration like that.

I'm actually, this is a lot of the jadea. So, I think that's about making bicko, that, if I'm going to move a little bit more than, in the wihara that I learned, the wihara JETIA Buddha Prabha, there is one bicku that's very bigu The more than I was about 12-year-old. Too-twe-a-old, it's still until the tubuhawned very.

And, he also has been meditati. So, every day I'm at the wiering that, I'm asking me to him, how much the way of the way. So, the, from the SMP, to him who's the same 12-12-tallon. So, one 12-year-old, that, that's the experience, is an un-a-bearser.

And, belio-in'i-un, if picun, if he'd ask him, not even if I'm not even if I get-in-a-hurt. But because I, every day, to get-hift, sometimes, and while, there's one, if he'd like, It's great way that I've got

made things that I've never taught from where from from from from where, from the people, from where, not know. This is a one hundred twelve-one. For me, that's a heart-caron-warned, like if people can't make a book antics, that's what I'm saying.

So, that's what I think that's the end-and-meditation is just enough It's very much. When I'm also, I'm also, I'm also also, I'm also in Thailand, this is also a lot of meditati, I'm talking to the senior,

kind of, where are you, oh, latian is there. There's one guru that's called Lumputit. That's the place in the perbatasan

with Thailand with Laos. So in the desert, and I went to the place that from Bangkok one night. And the wihara is, well, in wihara our wayhara, the one the very much of the hirah is the the river meekong.

At the same, Laos. So, it's bettall, bettah the most of the end. And in there, I've been I'm not much of meditassizabeth, because I'm sometimes I'm being called for midget, too, guru.

So, while midget, and while I'm talking, because of the Thai land I'm at a bit of time Biku who can't in English, I try to ask, to tell you to tell you to him. What he can't answer,

I'm not, I'm not I'm not, I'll ask, I'm not to tell my And that's also many of the many of the meditations that I shared to shareinged to him. It's about it? Yeah, it's in the middle of the area. So, wehara we're in the hutsan,

the pinkir in the country Thailand, in the Tailan-Utara. Because if we look at Thailand, bikku, the biku which, the bribu-buk meditatiati, All right Bicu, this is actually there are two. Bicu who is really meditatiati, Bicu who is the bigu who is

okay. If I'm more than meditation, because that we're, we're doing, we're there, but not many. Because, for me,

meditation, this is in being in knowing the With we can know we can understand we can people like people

because of the other what we want to behunger people who want to beaqia we're having hindery peneritaan other other also hindering penerita

so if I if I don't want to be sadgited I don't make it people else If I want to beaugia again, yeah, ma'adie, we're making people. That's the principle of meditati,

but it's the practice to be able to be able. Because if meditati, it's the principle is, the principle, so, well, letheteer to talk. Many people say,

well, meditation, this must be there ritual, not. Because this is, people are like how much it's not too, that's not being about how much, how much,

how much, how much, can, as much more we're making it, and we're making it's more than we're making. Smeking later we're making make sure, oh, the Jalen-pinkirance, this, this is like this, emotion, this is like this,

Emot, it's actually, it's come to glom. So, sometimes, when the emotion is still going to be able, but when we're still, we're doing, it's going to be able. Same as if we're still meditathing, or to beck or to beckonersin. We can't. Taha just. Taha just a minute, if you can't, if you can't,

You know, you know, the emotion, or rangsangu, or bansan, to turn. Then, then, nafas we're going to bring in baton and besieen again. Now, it's all the thinking also like that. Tahan a little, and then,

then, then, then, emotion, make, take a minute, turn, and then, So that's the other than we're going to make a lot,

if we're going to make a cemine, then the marraining, but right? Because when we're mad, then we're trying to see a cermine, automatically we can't even if we're making the malady. So, when the cemines, the peckang just, the emotion's even if you're still, if you're still,

And then, then there's not there's more than that. Now, it's just like that. Now, being bigo that's been meditatisicat. So, yeah, we can't even be able to beendalicking dh. Because I'm that that's that's the right. Practic Agamab Buddha, for me that's the cossack,

bigot, bigu, is, is, jolani meditati. So, this is not tauting not for other. There's a man Buddha that I'm not to becou,

so it's like, it's just the person who's just the person who's not. Because if all are just to becou, can't report, because of the people who are good-usah. Now, then, also, as bigu, I'm just for meditati. For people, biku that's just like to teach,

yes, sila. If all meditations, can't there's not there's not there. So in the world, there are many many, if we can't get them, as if there's a goodemian. The people want to be it's about,

they have a need of its own. Why we have to make make sense? I have to becko. Umar Gouda Yangana, it's just beckiqa. Bia'an just, decoocan. Bicu has to take meditati.

He's not going to beitation. For what we're not having to beaamom. Like you're going to be able to be human, with anyone, one of many things I've learned from meditasi is how we can be made that

that's not to not to call. And that, if, I think, that, I mean I'm not just for anyone, not I'm just right. And, and if we're like stress,

or like to be stuck, or what, if we're more can't be able to be able, that's not to beck-cault, not back-up, will be-n't. Right. Right. It's not the end of the world.

So, people, know from the small that, that's not yet, because he's not looking at the time from the hair pute and being beruban. You know,

from gashit, and from gashit, and it's like, soyang, so it's night, the morning, so the petan. Tau,

all, he, the, can't be able to be it. But, but it's for the other people's the other. So, it's not to be it's the right for other. It's difficult to be it for for it for itself. If we're again,

we've got a book of what's about philosophy of this, not the kind of the philosophy of this, so we can't we can't say that we can't ask for people. Like that's It's not a long. It's not good. You're still, you know,

you're all this long this is long this is already too, you're too, you're always you're just

you're muda. You're not you're not so, you're not so, you're still

you can't even even It's very easy. But when we're having lost a family of life and the other that's in the other saying that's about,

we're not. You know, you're notheighted say, if you can't be able to be able to and that's a too, and that's jeleck.

Bucan not my husband of my, still, still, We're noth, then we're having a lot. The other than we've got to us, the other than we're saying,

kata, that's not, well, that's, well, it's not there's a lot, this is a kind of a big. Now, this is difficult. Now, with meditati, we're, we're going to get to

get used it, so we're used, Ibarat if you're like that's like that's a lot of the work. It's not being in the ringan, yeah, maybe, yeah, a half kilo, long as it's going to 2 kilo, 10 kilo, and so forth.

This is also, the weight of the meditation, so, so, plan, first we just can't get-a-turb of it. Why, it'semutin, If we're very good, we're

we're lefty position that's not too very much of great. So, so long meditati is, ideal if I'm just the way that's the way of it, we can't be three-grapa-an, which is one, meneggacking. Because our bunging we're, contoursing and the abysa-turb our strenuptuptu-in-a-miring,

like, one, one, so that's down here, we're tegak again, we're down again, we're tegacking. That's the other. The other, meneggacken the head. Because if we've been meditati-lame, now,

now if you're, if you're going to, so, so the head has to be taken. But we're the smanguant that's there. Then, after the other than the other than the other than the other than is, because sometimes, rudah is out. Even if we're just too much, then we'll just take it down, not even when it's all right, it's not even though it's all right.

So, it's just three-three. Kessemutin' like whatever, it's just, tahn. Inesarant, there's timer, countenown timer, countenade, or, minimum, 15, 15 minutes. If you're more than 30. A bit more, a bit more than, sometimes one-jam. No-ushoots until long.

Because this, this is a lot of the thinking. So, it's just, in 30 minutes, I mean, it's a time. Wow, it's amazing. T'an. then we'll know, to know, to you know, this is we're not being, not the time we're still,

now, it's a sudden. Yeah, it's got to bea-lucked too. Sometimes, bosen. Meditace, that's got routine, the name's a lot of latin. And, you know, I think, Batminton. Yeah, sometimes,

you know, there's a lot of, there's a mood of that we don't want to bein- But if we have discipline, ah, this is it's just the time, have to have to be it, that's not yet, we're not too, if we're going to be, then we're doing to do,

and we're not yet, we're trying. Oh, first, we're walesce a lot of times, there's times, we're malice. Because, usually, the people meditati is the smanguad's the one first, the month the two, the month the three, if if it's, if,

If we can't tunded, tunded-a-tunded-a- So, we're just disciplined, because of the day, there's a tucas. And then, when we're at all the alas, we're still to dood. If you're not a while-bri-biasa, we're just a pen-ggy-buny-buny, why not bany-buny-buny-duny, but if you, t'all-tow, battery-hapes. But if if, no, we'll, We'll be the object.

What about? What about? What about? Particant napos is out. When napes out, we know. This is out. Or we can hitung 1-5. 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5.

Then, back, 1. But, nafas normal. Not, not the condition you can, or long, or to be it's a day of our day. Just the day, like we're just as a day of our day. What we're saying, if we're seeing,

then, it's just, timer's been a buny. And then we got back the I'm just going to be bosen, and then it's not, now,

then we're not, we're not to keep-kelled, and it's in in other ways. So, after one of three, we'll, like, just one of the doctor, like, doctor,

the doctor, I can't get to be, this, it's too-lambat, so much. It's not all, it's not ake-kall, and I've got to be able to have a time of the time

of the time. But I'm the emotion, I'm also, I'm also much more I'm because, This is also a bigot of object meditati. Tenerat, I'm sorry,

I'm going to be able to be able to be able to be able. Now, I jankle, know, doctor, why not, not gungil-mangil name of my, now, and then, I think, I'm going to be able to be

the doctor's, we're still, no, doctor, how, so, so, doctor, not-te-tap, if it's just, not-te-pate,

not-te-cate-cust, this, and, This one day three times, you issue one day five times. Now, we're not emotional like that. We're just being used to. Now, this, if you're not going to be able, so we're getting to be made,

we're getting more, the body we're more, the more, the longer, the feeling, the ability of the things, we're, we're all,

and we can't remember it as a reality. That's what we're left in meditation. That's what I'm really? I'm going to take to the story a little before we move to the front, based on the topic of this. If we look Indonesia and Asia-Tengara this can kind of

with, what, yeah, harmony, moderacy, tolerancy, unparancy, and everything, while we've got been over over a era or massa.

If we look, jama, Zerwijaya, that's that, after that Mahapah, Hindu,

six hundred-tahun-a-tahe and, Islam, colonialism, and demer-de-a-a-democratsy of seven-a-a-tall-a. This, This is the area of the area,

so much of the area, from the asia-Tegu-an and Persatuan. Although, some of the way of the people, that have been made up to be able to this, and many of the

people in Indonesia, not know, that, when the time the of the Shri-wijaya, to be itchuan for school or academician or who, who's who are going to bea

from theongok, from anywhere in Asia. Maybe you can't tell a little, Banty, how, that? So, if we were going to be on the first we're not based on a book. Because I was at that, or not, not even if I had not evened. If we're basest in the life of the life before,

is if I'm now being buddhist, because I've been taught Jury Wijaya, I'm not sure. But, we're indeed, we're supposed to be a buddharesatuan. Even asia-Tengara, this is even like that. Or maybe we've made uprovesar to be Asia. culture. This is a goodyre that's a goodyre that's a goody

one of a goodytea just if today today, in Indonesia, it's a tradition to ask for people that there. So, if we're going to one, one, one,

sometimes, there are people someone who's about, "'Ibu' to-mah, why not be-a-jadjap?' "'Say, who's not-de-a-jave. "'Mas, why not-de-a-a-jave. "'Now, now, Papa, and Ibu, "'d.' "'Look, the world, why not be-a-jadjac-so.

"'Menaying that's not-a-adda-a-oh.' "'It's what we have a good-lian. "'So, if the other, "'ifers' the other, "'that's not a lot,' There's not even if I'm not even if you're not going to do you. But if you're not in Indonesia or in Asia, it's a bit of a question. And we're living like that. So if I'm being a day just, it's just still still is still.

Then if we're taking more than a while again, I'm a little, and now, there's still a little, In the front of the room, there's kendi, be in the air? If we had, if we had that, in the front of the people, it's a kendi,

there's a water, for a drink. For people who are people who, so that's the hauice, you'll have, and it's in some of the some of the other I'm still,

there, there, time that, still many. And that's not the issue of the opad for pancahar or whatever, it's really, but, but the water sumur,

did get to make in kendi. It's sojews it's just so much. It's, can, any other from you, any, from any,

from you, I'm, I'm, this, this is this ishaworthy-asas so that if we're taking to the time that, the culture, the person-a-per-satuania,

because if there are there, there's a power that's that big. And that, from the other-negrie, we're being to learn to and if we look

peningalalans and the area that's that so that's bigot, that's that's great that's clans, melitaphysed many things,

it's been a buddaya and even, even, although there's a some other that maybe some of some that some

that's but not it's all that all we're not. So, If we look at the time, because they want to look at Indonesia, why, what, out of the world-bri-bizhya this is quite

out-wableness, how out-bri-bri-sha, can't be able to bea-bad, chand-di-and-di and like, this is so, it's so that. So, if I'm looking at that, we we have now, we have to be able to learn. Even in a scale, like that's already, there's,

and what can't be able to be able to be a power. It's like our own. Jari, this, there are five. Mastings, each, and the different, function is different, but it's not

can't sally mingombonged. I'm-Boo-Jari, this, this is all over, this ishawed, and he's sombong, then he only has a bojari just. If people only have had a bujari just, yeah, it's even, he wants to the room

that there's the pinday of the didjari, it's just. But, for to make, it's too, is too, too. Oh, If you can't take the P, it's still,

it's even, while it's at the other but this, but this is still, but he can't We have hindered the other because of the jari-jury-jury this has a function that's different

and when one hand we're going to be a lot, we're just getting a lot of people who are getting a little bit, or we're not just a person who's we're not just, we're going to gethised certain, you know, that's going to, it's just so-susas,

then, to sinker, oh, do, I mean, what? What is what? The other is not making a permusualan. This is justro one of a kind of if we can't

get our body with a lot of different that we're if we're both and right can't be different big,

kuping, kirk, korean, not same, the, of the kind of the kind of, this kind of the cuton, this is not same, the middle, not same,

the head, lupang, not same, and then, we can see the right-canan the right, the back-and, the back-and, the back-you-ggy-gut-be-gut. If we can't get

that not-same, why we can't get to get the other, not-same. And that, if we can but I think that's the same way that's that's what's been great-banks,

it's what he's what he has what he has, but what's the way that is there is that there is here. Our culture is kind of and I sometimes sometimes I'm being bingung if people from out

and come to think that we can't we can't be one of Europe, what we're like that, I'm going to counter, you know, you know, the war of the world

and the two only to, you're, 120, 120, yeah, that's, that,

from the, of the people, to the, or what, what, what, what, or maybe, a more than,

in the other than two-year-old in this, if I'm thinking I'm very peaceful, there's a corban in, but that, if I think, can be it's very much more than

much more than that, that's becal for us to the to the other I'm going to take back, I'm talking about how we can

letting the day of our own to keeperouran, whatever, what is an energy negative. If we look at the world, this, energy negative, there is, and is more clear-cleatant from the way of the people or becumunication. Even I can be able to beaularization,

to the right or to the right, not to come to me on the way of this, not can't penetrae, not can communicate, so it's just like, so, what we can't take from the makna of the conversation before before the important for the important, what, yeah,

make recalibration, the fact that's a bit more than the idea. The principle is, the penitent of the same. Yeah, maybe if we had about about meditation, that's about, the penanal of this

to be it's notewan or anyone, or anyone, anyone elseia, people, or other than that, it's all right. So, it's back to, if you don't want to be sick to get it, don't make it to be people. If you want to be happy,

demigion, then, people are other. Sometimes we're, kind of, we're kind of a lot of thinker not same, so we're just-like, we've been to form a colompoxed, yeah, can polarization, today. But, and, actually, he's the way in one side,

not same. But in the side of the different, maybe same. Ande-a-kata, Mr. Kitta, Mr. Kittal, but I'm not so much can't be able to be able to beaumannes but I'm not being able to beauched and

the experience, but I can't beajae talk that I'm not being able to say that's about maybe there's other side of the other, I can't. Demigian, but, the point of my Wow, if we're going to bellowed, I'm not level, I'm not, I'm not just. I'm not, too.

We're in the bedang of other, can't we can just, we can't come on. This concept that maybe we need to be that there, there's one but there

99 of other that I can can also can't be because I'm my sonarer's just because of the omonging this.

But if I can't even know-called the other, if we can't trypkan, or not they're with color, color, but it's just, because the person

of the same. I want to bea being backia and to away penderitaan. That's what we want to comeang so much that.

So, That's not just to help me help not to be it's not to helping communication we can we can't. Even with the other than with that's not, it's a beckle, it's a beckle,

to mennuching the stupokane. Yeah, if I'm not, I'm not mud-dengen on bulw-tankis, yeah, no, I'm not there's a little bit, I'm going to beckles, yeah, right? to becalfe can't un-a-pennatuan. Yeah, it's a communication.

Yeah, right, from the poe-o-e-po-o-e. Sudet-pand-ing, it's also so I'm not-kegackle, that's also part of we can't be able to bea-mahmy. But if we're more more more, just because because it's not-kegakal, that day I can't be able to behast

but give a second I'm a week. I'm going to be able to level of TK. Oh, it's more than what you're going to be. Maybe. Maybe. Yes, yeah. It's a lot of the life this not to come. I'm not really not that I've been

been a process. I'm here only a part of process of the process berkesinambungan from me from the last, and I'm doing this will be process, be resinambungan for what will come.

So, so this is not a kekall, this, it's not even, to not even, we've got to be our communication that, that's polarisation, and,

and, we can be back back again with the un-keke-kallan that. I've spent beripotesa at the this is the last

not-long-long-incerellation with technology technology maya. I want to ask how can't help how? Polarization of this there is,

there is, there is, there is, technology is neutral. Yeah. All in the newy-needraught, it's all the people's, mentality, morality of the people.

Pissau, can to murder, can to motton roti. Technology is also. Technology, if we're manfaxed for the commadjewan quality of the humanists, also, too,

the technology also can be used is not used to use. But it's not media social. Media social for we can't help things that positive. It's not. Can't be sharing, sharing, about the lessons

good, information that's good, can be much. But we also can, media social this to us with hoax. Now,

media social not It's not even though it's not even though but it's the human's the human being made mental if now, there's a lot of Javansarid, Arit, the BASA Indonesia's... Oh, for motong rumpet that's... Oh, yeah, so... I'm sorry, the other,

...bara Indonesia's... ...basa Jawa. So, this, this, this, sabbitt, sabbitt. Sabet. Soot, so shabed, yeah. Sabat this is about matung-reput. Now, to burn up to people.

Right, sabbets not really to larang. The people are chas-ed in the desa-dice-dice-it-it-that. Now, what is being able to bea-u-anusia human-pungan. Don't use-gun-gun-a-

Now, now, the media social. We don't need to allow the media social. media social, but what's humanisian, moralitas manusia. What we've beengit can to moralitas. One of the upy upangu is

menckon the fear and afraid. So, how do you know, how much? We're in, we're in

the people, especially in Asia, or maybe also in Europe, that, every other people, that's about our own people. So,

if we're bullied, because there's Jacobson, this is the Jacob, this. And then, if there's in here, there, if,

Pat Gita, Wiriawan, there's name of the there, or there Oryriyawan is. Wyrgyzugito. Wyrgyzugito. Ah, it's right there. Now, we'll know that's about with a real.

Weiriyah, that if I'm doing something that's something that's good, the name of my lord and luhur my, it's up. If I'm doing that bad, the name of my own my lord and lulher I'm justo-and. I'm putting to the land,

to the face. For example just if you're in the school, back to the kinder, not pinter. If you're a good, guru, I've been asked, eh, the other's what, he, pinter? You, pinto?

The child is what? What, the other? Nackal? The other, can't it's been abawat. Now, now, we can beanketkan that. In Europe, in Indonesia, we can't get it.

That's what you do you, if you're doing, you're doing, if you're doing, you're going to be able to be, you're going to be jacques. So, if, ah, this, this, the education is success. Wow, it's always,

The way isaughan't so much more than the other than I can't be able to the child, I'm going to be a lot of the way. Sobelighting the other than he been a penjave or criminal, this is the other, so, so, the, the, oh, my you also, I'm also as I'm also as

as I'm as much, my, my, my, My son's like that's like that. Now, then the other than the other than the other. But the baby-sitter, like, who are going to be it, but it's a person that I have a job to be a-did-I-I-I-C. I'm not only to be a child. But I'm not being a child that's a child.

It's a real. I'm not too. Malu is not, not even the gettawee the other, that I'm from this, I'm malo. I'm a

the country Indonesia. Why I'm not going to I'm not. That's right. Like if in Japan, there's there, there's dompet of a detingal.

I'm... I'm... It's not so much more than that. That's not quite much more than that. Right, it's not really. So, so the world is important. And that's the buddaya Indonesia, right.

We're still, we're just to ask our own our own, you know, dutut down, d'allu n'n't to look at people. Hey, don't do that. Malu, n'n't you'll be looking at all.

If you can't, if you're being up, you're being able to be able to be as well as to beaugh and then to beaugh. It's really good, yeah. But malu is because of the other, there's a lot of the the acut. Taked at all the acybate

the relaco that. That if I, if I'm going to dojahatant, back to me, buahannes. I'm going toobit I, I can't dobit too.

I can't want that. I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to do you. If I don't want to hurt you, I don't want to hurt you. I'm not to make you want to be happy to be people. I'm saying to you, we're saying to you. So we look at the cause and acibate this. And if that's two of these, we can, so that's a good-hrechaicant

Mali-Kat and Taked will be a good. It's not only the people who can be good. It's all the world, because all the world has a lot of the fear and has a lot of it. We don't need to be able to bemoor-during it, but we're just to make upheaval What? Yeah, yeah, it's not to keepal.

We still can't be able to back up the water, it's still, this is still there's a chance we're to be better. Now, there in Indonesia in Indonesia, there's a garrant malu to want sampas, buddai-can malu to want to beaum

but, but it's not until it's been in-dalen, the gaugn't, malu, not with a helm, but the budaillian is still not using helen. But, but if you're not using a helm, if you're not using hector,

if you're not taking a helmet, it's not a cause, because when hector is a leaps, there's a problem, there's a problem that's the and that's not the of the other, the of our people,

that's what I'm not going to do you. That's if I look at the context of the of the money in the world, it's about 5.5 jute-ton, Indonesia, the contribution is 3 to 4%. But what's more more than, plastic that's being put into air, especially the air-lout,

contribution to be it's about 15% from total of plastic in the world. from Indonesia. Maybe it's just for we've gotonged again. Yeah. Malu and I'm not too. First, I'm not too, to beaugh, like we're doing plastic,

or bottle of mineral, to the, like we're dhawr-ulang, or it's to be-cumbul-khan, then, the process, then, it's a good, this, and then, there's a resultan-in-link-a-you. Maybe I'm not long

I'm not going to be, but the generation but I'm not going to give up, somepah, and then-yakakened for the generation people. Now, if it's got to gawonged, it's just enough to make up to to make up to make morality,

perilaku we, but I'm saying that that If we want to be able to be able, we have to be a better than one of the other better than one of the other,

the other one's the other one's the leagued, that's it. But because we're living we're saling with other, So we can be a good for the other than we have a good human, has a good way of the world that's a good way that's a good bad. And, and, in the world, there's one

people who are good, and in the this, is a good one of a good one that's not a good. If this is a good one can be one example, Maybe the other people in our own around us can't be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to do. And in the world, there's a lot of people that is not a good in the way. Then if this isiracate this

by the people of the other, thenca, so it's a country. So, is one of Indonesia who has a buddhae and the culture of the world in this there's one

one who has had a buddhaer and talked. If the country Indonesia can be made being a big of a personoctoan, then,

then, so much more than the world and that's about the world's about and that's a better than to be it. Not only perdemean local, not only the predomian of the other, from our own from our own. Because, sometimes,

when we're going to do something, we're not going to go to the other. Sometimes, how we're going to, we're going to, here, how, this, this, this, this, System, you know, that's right, must it's system. What's the... Beerawasant.

Yeah. We're the back of system that. We're agon of the other, why not we're from our own from our own. So, so we're just that's who's malo and the talk to, and that will bempangue of other. How, Banty, to be able to

to be the culture this. Because, sorry, sorry, I'm not tahan always to look at least Indonesia with the other countries, including, China, India, America, the United, America, German.

There's no other alasan for we can be as a krein'n they, right? And that, if, I mean, I think I'm from from culture. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. To do you know to kinerjia like, if we're about buddhaq, with a buddhae about about attributes that's

important to be to be able to get-katt-kuged that, that's great, that's, that's,

it's, at where, or not in school, then, then I just, I want to look at just, how this, so that this is... Like that I said that I said, if we're going to be able to ...aselam long as we can't.

...right from... ...it from school. ...the school this is from school, I'm going to say to have to be able to be ...and-tacot, we have to be a buddaya and talk. We have to be the head school or we're going to be a headeraisan. But to be a chairer-eastern,

but to be able to be able to, We don't have capacity. Now, how? And then we're just, we're saying, yeah, we're saying, yeah. We're just, we're just saying.

And, there's something we're doing. So, now, we're from we're because the the most the most

that we can can't be able to , sometimes it's sometimes it's too, If I like, I like, I like, I like a good one

people, you know, I'm not want, you know, not too, then at home, the food, food, they're not safe. That's the family's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. Because he's not there's been

There's been a lot of our now that's already there's have been there's a lot of, I who's who's already, I'm going to be, and then, people will look, you can't this, now, people ask,

it's like, it's like, people who are taking tabung, so, so, to make, to receive

the knowledge of the people, you can't do you? You can't, now, not can't. And then we can. And then we're just to be not just, not a problem, maybe, maybe the other will be able to be able. From our own, we're from

we're making a percontaghan of the world. So, I'm sometimes I'm saying If you're in a context of the context of a bad, because I'm in a badagama buddha, after you know, what's the other has now in other about you? Are you still same as before? Is it more good or more if you're more than you're more than you're still tradition,

but don't even to do nothurti. If more de-cheleck, this is more bad, this is this, you're, you're, you know, if you're better, that's what we're not going to be able to be. Because, the other than I'm the other than I'm like a motivator, it's like motivator, inspirator, to us to do goodan.

If any other motivator, it's all right, and the point is, it's the important, is it's been a good. If he, after he's got a good, he didn't make-mallucan the other than her, He has a lot of the to make a lot of the wronged because of the people's not to get to be it because of the impasse. Ah, eh, it's all okay.

Whatever, any, whatever motivator. So, so, we can't, we can't even go to the life that's all the abatamany, in any way that he's about, the thingy, the extent, whatever's about what's

and it's about malu and that's about people who's about to need something to do you. What's important, he rendon that, life I'm going to, to anywhere I've got, to go to the world, I can't even think about the name of the

people's my. So, when I'm back, the other's my own, the other's it, There are some of the number that's a few generations. Foreroyahs, I just I'd pinniped by Pat Gita, maybe it's been by the papar again, but also, maybe by the kakekakak by kakebuky.

Maybe, there are people that. Wow, if I'm doing it's a good, they're all these, we can't say, It's not very, well, it, right, right, we're not quite, we're not in one

just in one time But if you're not and this, and this is not simple, and it's justerhaned and maybe we in Indonesia

can use that I'm going to back to technology, if you're at the end, this is, if we're,

it's more than with the other than with the questions the most confidential, the most private. This kind of kind of better in context spirituality,

where, in this, around, even more than a thousand, if we have consultations to consultations to the people, people in the context of Islam, Nasrani, Hindu, Buddha and other than

other. That we're to Ustad, imam, or to to bea, or to becu, but now,

the perilaku human is more looking at Google. Yeah, right? And, I can, I'm The question that's more private, in what we're even what we're having to ask about what we'rea'amara.

The other than banté, how this? The impact of spirituality or the form of spirituality to be because of the technology. Yeah, like I just said, technology, is it's not a lot, yeah. So, manusiness, He's only, now, now, why, though,

people are more than the technology than with the people of their own religion. Because, sometimes, technology can we can access at every time. So, we're just too much, this is just a day of two pard, it's just to sit there, how much, you know, how it's more much?

If you know, if you're in Bicom, if you're going to ask, in the W.A. Bicuuuuuu'iqa, then I'm going to be able to do. So I'm report. So, yeah, I'm talking to H.P. So, that's the private-private, private, then, so I'd just ask to HAPE, because I'm not, if I'm going to ask for Bikung, if I'm not, if I'm going to bea-mallang,

or not like a crisis of the So, so, why, bantéin'am, it's more than to people, so it's more than I'm too, but if it's why it's the bantyne can't be it in a way. Sometimes, he's not in fact that he's in a ragged way that. What can, Bantene's the answer?

You can, he bicko, I'm going to take the other than I'm not making. I'm not going to ask, I'm going to ask, or not, well, just like Google just. So, so that's it. Now, sootunit, what's the important is,

how we can be able to be a place for our own to our own, not Google. Now, why we can be able to be a bigian or we can be solution for our own, we have to analyze the question or What is the

What's the other? What's the reason why I'm I'm in this, I'm in it, that's the one of the Toebb-needed. To ask to what's just, sumberingingan, still the same.

The only one with the kind of sometimes, not even the sameang I'm going to I'm 100, the reality,

70. There's a there's a lot of that's beeniburred stress. The onlyinion of I'd be able to do 12. So,

until 2 o'clock, I'm not to bed, stress. Tanya Google. So, this is the only want to

not want to get-in-a-natured Now, now, if the, if the in- than the fact-a-

we can't be able to changean. It's not eveninguals. Now, now, now, I'm going to be it in a 12th, so how I'm saying, I'm going to take-kallant,

that this is just a time 2. But because I'm going to be able to 3, I'm still there, one time for restirate. Begit that we can't get a certain No way. Don't need to look at Google again. Sobalan-neyingan I've got got to 150.

Yeah, no-u-not-homom. It's just happy, that's because it's a more than what we've harbent. Now, who make stress, always the other than the realignan than the reality. Because that, we're always we've learned

to-endalicking the not-ke-lalan-the-ckelan if we've got to-been-a-ckelan. If we've got to-mah-cahallan, I'm not to call. I'm not to come to stay. Now, I'm not at 1,000, I'm not at 12, okay, so I'm going to receive a new time.

But then, later, this is a new time, this is being a little bit more awal. So, this is not only not just about, then, it's just to make time 3, yeah,

to just to make sure, yeah, I'll insueck, not to sleep, We have to be a lot of the same this as a plan on the other than the other than there is a gap again. And this can be in the same the problem.

All problems the cause is it is the only thing is the the only problem is the problem what, what, problem economy? You know, there's people who's

money, why, why is it, why are you in this, we're going to be five. We've got to beaqqqqqa now, the right, this is the right to show you

to make. So, the right it's the number of it, so, so,

if you're people, if you're But I always look at five, I never jarring just. Jarre the right. Now, you know, I'm going,

I'm saying, I'm going to be five hundred. Ah, do you know, five jute. Okay. We're at this one jute. So,

if we're looking on the little, there's one-juta, there's one-gut. So, we're, Sometimes, you're small, you're small, you're three, one.

But if we're going to, mean, $7,000, $10,000. Wow. Hachig, $5,000. But if we're like this, normal. But why? We're just trying to get $1,000 just

can't live? Wow, that's not, man, that's a lot, that's the thing. That's all right. It's been back to the inininion. The only has batons. The needance is that can be barbatus. This is if $5.00. Want $500,000?

Same. There are more small. For what we're sombong? For what we're minder? Because we're always in the middle. Now, five trillion. Yeah, same is just. So, the right now,

this is right, this is right, if you're talking, the value of the money, because the value of the money money is the most Now, now, now, now the the level of the same.

I'm just the same. I'm just the same. I'm looking, see how much, but try to look at the this, it's a lot of the family's in a

rataan, try. That's sadic-sacquit-sacit- and, so-sucasan. We, I'm lulose

with an out of the world-biasa. Yeah, if we're looking like that large, more than with them having minding our own and there's just, there's not there,

meaner, not there, just, just, this, there's kind of there's again that we're to be banga-can

or we're quiteer. And that, and that, we just we just to be able to be it's about the problem we have to be it again to Google, not even to ask for other,

we don't even if we're going to be able to be inocon. Yeah, I'm not too, why I'm not too? Google, what's the reason I'm not too? Yeah, you know, drink chocolate, or or what, or something like that. It's just making make make sense of the thinking of thinking, so that's kind of, then if you're in-kentingingingin, you're just like that.

And, and, and, all, this is all of the thinking, and all of the problem whatever, it's really from the meaning. What kind of, if we can give you can't give you an example that, not a-ininioningin, Just. Just what? What's what?

What? What? What? Right. Right. We've got to be about this. If we're saying, Wow,

this is mangaw. We have a thing to do to make up to make sure that so we're we're making system.

For example and I'm not even there's people who want to buy somepah, plastic and then, and so baguaguen't. But, stress we're because of the stuff, that's because, why, why, you know, why not like me like me like me?

So, stress that, that's that, that's, there, is a burden mental. But we're... Expectation and reality. Now, if we're had to with neutral, this is there's a case of the same of plastic.

But, but I don't believe about my emotion I'm just enough to use my logica why a doctor is thereincan to not operate the other

but all, oh, doctor, operation, why, he's not, d'ad, d'ad, d'ad. Why, why, he didn't ask you? Because there's a lot of of the human emotional.

And it can make make our bigirate not objective. Sampah, that's true. It's a casus. But we don't need to be

emotional. Maybe with with disipline in on to mellit to mungut, that's that just

not just be around people. Because with I'm mumut one bottle of mineral plastic I'm using, I'm going to have beencimer. One unit of a problem. Yeah. Yeah.

And, if I'm not even if I'm going to get back my life, and if at least, if every day, if, if I live on, if, if we're living, we make a lot of the day, we're going to be in the panty, maybe, maybe, in where. That's not very much. Okay, I'm a challenge a bit. Bahawasance, that's not as a good as a goodenance

like we can't. It's all over the thing of the thing to make up to make up to make a good-aikin. Amazes from crisis moral? It's just to be like that. So it's like that. Global, yeah. Crisis moral, in the art of the

he can't manage ... ...theirin of the only, he didn't know the reason why it's so, this is, in one in the in Indonesia, sometimes I'm going

there's a little this. So, like, The little bit of little bit of little bit, in some of the other than even even though, the little bit of the little bit of the other, the lander is the land that's

it's notal, ah, so you're going to, say, say, and, the landin'n't, so there's concept. I'm just because of the other. I'm just because of the people I'm like I'm going to be a good

I'm going to be a good Budaingus Kalah Anguangu's a great Oh, well the balla not standard We're not yet We'll even now So we're going tompaqed

We're all this Webancan our own our own to give us to the other. So, why I'm this life is because because of the Bapakhaired my and I'm going to have been left me. If I'm not going to be made up toerite you. I'm not so-menerite this.

This is very he can't manage the difference between the inininan with the reality. But when he's looking that we can't get from from 1k1k,

to 10 kilo, be able to, long as we can. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, even if in in the

in the in the culture that I've used in the culture java, there's a amount. Ontung,

this, wow, to get a real with our own with our own. So, I'm just, why I'm not going to be the same oh, it's just a heart of the

people that's just the same up, muta, munted, and the pain, and the other, and other, every day, but, but, but, but many who not sick the head of the head, you, you know,

Then one-kentak, you can't be, you've got to be able to, you know, you're up to this. It's a condition of us, yeah, un-unctu, yeah. Well, I think the only can't be 100, I've got it 70. Onctu, now,

now, now, this is about it. Well, I'm getting 50. Yeah, it's not even, no, this, no, no, this is not there's no one-as-as-a-as-a-old. You, you're not-on-a-lombed. You have been a work-a-lough-lap.

But even there, but you have the experience, and the not can't be the new-nilay the hardgain. Untong. It's still on-punct. Now, what's now, if now, the other than,

the other than the the one-faces of a hundred, ah, on-tong-un-un-n-n-n-cust, it's a better than . So, we can manage our thinking this like this.

We're looking at least we can't can't even be able to get along our problem. We're going to be a problem because we're only. But there's risk if, if we're justifiating, we can justifications, we've got 70. Untong, 70, not 69.

Is there a risk underperformance? performance. Because if we're comparations with the same as we're going to be in 80. If 100 is not realistic, but 80, for we can be able to be able to be able to we've got to justifications that that it's okay. Yeah.

Now that's how to find the samebangan. Now, that's why I said I said, if I said that I was saying with the time So at 12, I'd have to 2. Okay, now, yeah, time 2, yeah, I'm going to get to be it. So, it's the 1st. But then, in line of the time, I'll learn to be able to be able to be able to be this.

That's actually that's what we've been asked by Pat Gita. I'm target of 100. Why I've got 70? So this is not able to be it's a real. If you're on-sat, omnis you must omet your, omet you, oh, the reality, just about 70,

okay, we can't even not be able to be able. Well, this is 70, but, now, how long, you can't be 70? Okay, boss, and more, Oh, that we're dimension of what we can.

So, then, in two weeks to come? Can you? Well, we can't. We can't even make sure. Because we have to make up to live-laku. So, okay, this you're only 70, yeah, on target 100. But in the next, system you have to be able to be it. so that's about 80, 90, or 100.

So, there are two ways, though. The first one, is to, to make more than the time, or to make upheighty system of the realacu. So, so we're not to be able. So, if in the Javan, N'Rimmo in Pandum. So, we're just, this is,

dum-dumann'u. So, I'ma, this, I'm here's like this." Neri-o-en-pand-dung, to is at this time this. But, then, then, it's going to be done just not only the N'i-Mu-en-Pand-Dun, that there arewrawe-rawe-rantas malang-mal-put-tung.

That, if we're in one place, that's, if in Bouda-Jawahua, rave-rantas, If we're in the water, then there are acar-acaran that bergantung, did rantasi all, potong, then malang, malang puttung. So, not malang-malang-Surabaya or what,

this is not, because it's not a-bohan-transportation, so it's malang-mang-but-tung. It's, it's just melintang-melintang-in-in-in-in, we're potong. And it's that because there's there's a lot of there's commauauing

butemawing rawe rataes malang puttong there, there's ravehrawe rantas, yeah, but for a lot. So, wow, this hothal too, it's a bigot of it. It's not only, If I'm 100, it's now I have to 100,

this I have to 100. So, I'm not remo, because of the realtor. So, it's not remow, because of the realtain, because of the fact that, it's not able to be able to be able. But in the time it's coming, it's still be able to becky it. I'm not quite much. This is just enough

this. I want to ask the question the last this is the religion of buddha is time, what's

what's going to this and to and to come about about about

Indonesia 2045 with With the other than that, I guess, in the world, there's a crisis moral, yeah, right? How can,

that can be a bank that can be a great in the year? From the perspective of whatever, yeah, from a perspective of whatever. Yeah, 24,000, like, from. We're already,

we've got over 80-a-a-old. But that's the way that's why we don't be pessimists. So, and then you're not really, wow, moralities and then, and the other than the other, the world amburadur, we can't be able to be able to be it, but it's not for Indonesia.

Indonesia, this, budaliena, has also for a time long, with many of the time tantangangans. There's one that that's very important in Indonesia.

So, it's always, so when you're not out, rumpi, yeah? What's the other, the culture of the this is not in the other and if that we can

can't to that we're going to keep, we're going to want, you're going, maybe, maybe this,

magic, this is a report. But we're a lot of you, so that's just to have a real-your-draud-during, you don't know if you're not not even because, you know, because you're in-the-time. You don't even look like, oh, all of us,

I'm sick, so I'm going to and not. If we're not even people, there's still, not have, not have, so, in the one of the most of the most of the

one that's the most of the more positive. For the time 2025, 405? 2045, oh yeah, 45, yeah, not 25, or 25, I'm still, maybe, you know, 4,5. Because now in 2004, maybe we're still to be that, because we have flexibility that

because we're just we're we're coming in what, the world that's about, if we're coming in there, we're seeing, so technology not being musso, but technology that's

technology that's, to us, to we're more to make make make the more and that's the so that we're using technology this

because if we were as much of the time Sriwijaya, how many technology out of the world that how much of the world that's in that but still be able to still to be it

this, this is that we're really, we're quite but not not not to-tutup

we're not there are some of the part of the if it's about the buber, in the middle of the end of the end of the pinker there's still, yeah, it's not all of it. We can't even make suregam-can

some of the people. But, there's a problem. If it's like if it's now in in the class there's 20 people, can't the kind of the There's one panned, there's one that.

Now we can't be able to be nulla it. This is, if it's a questioner, why I'm seeing what I'm looking at a biter-pand-a-pand-a-khaeat-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-sabagat, and, and so-a-shaqa-shaat. Then, if we're taking to the end, our discussion, actually, panday,

it's made that can't be the first, the most we're being we're doing, we're about it,

that in the world there's that's not really sombong, because I know,

but I'm think, there's a kind of not too too too too. If we're

we can't have a concept like that, They'll beaubour the world Indonesia, the group of the people that is important, and there's been there that's been

there that's cedar in the pinkir-mongok and soagueness, no, the problem, we have the consolaten, has this, now, what is this now? The best-a-and-it-it-a-one-it-all-a-all- that,

that we want to beaquieta. Masing people want to hindering the penderita. Why, there are people who want to be it? That's because of the the problem. But it's not that it would never ever ever,

because he has a commoenance, because this is not akegall, maybe it's a time, two years, it's just because it's about 10. Not all right, but it's just about it. But we need to beaumbanking, or butto-usahed-usahed-and-are-and-per-buquer-deged to make-buquer-deging.

Deminginginging, those that are jacar jacred in the out, we'll putte, we need, we need to putte-wet. Now, how it's how much? Sometimes, the buber that's hot, it's just to the buber that's a biter. Yeah, yeah. Nambung, and the end up in the bubor-anget this. And it's just so much

we don't think that in the out of it as a muso. Right, I'm who, I'm who's who's who is a biter, or who's who's not-pinter. Now, if in class that, can't always be able to be able to. But, now, you know, you're being pinter. But you have to have to teach me

who's not impenter. I'm not impenet in school, but not that I'm not pinter everything. Because I'm being about about but I'm not being not be able to say a week again

to talk about I've given so. Now, the other, people not pinter in school. Maybe they're

being, the part of the land, he's more pande, the way, more than than 2045. So, 2045, that will come

if we who are who then we have concept, let's each one each one we're and this and this

and we're people, the group of the people that in the world who are the back to bea back

because because of the I'm like to be like, I'm like, I'm going to go. Ah, I'm not from the other than the Kethingalans, and then, and then, it's not to be able. And, it's not so. Think how to make make make sure that the part of the part of the attribute that positive.

Yeah, and it can be dukewung by all the other agam. Because, now, we're malu and afraid, it's, is based on motivator Mastin, the motivator of the bigot, A, B, C. Even motivator our people, we can't our own our own, that you, you're not too, if you're not too, if you're both,

you're also, it's just like that. It's just like that. Wow, Wormiaza. Thank you, Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Banteu-U-Tam.

I'm sorry, many things that's about acco-cac-cac-turt, especially Pahasa. Same, not? I just through, I'm sorry if there are things that

of things great, sir, thank you, Banteh. T'an. T'an. That's Bante Uthamu.

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