Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Dipo Alam: Aktivisme dan Diplomasi Syahdu

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

Dipo Alam, mantan Sekretaris Kabinet dan Ketua Institut Peradaban Indonesia, bercerita tentang perjalanan hidupnya, mulai dari aktivis kampus hingga keterlibatannya di dunia politik dan diplomasi. Beliau membagikan kisah bagaimana lukisannya menggerakkan emosi Ibu Negara Jepang, Akie Abe, hingga menitikan air mata, serta bagaimana batik karyanya diterima dengan hangat oleh Ratu Elizabeth II.Di balik layar diplomasi internasional, seni sering menjadi bahasa universal yang melampaui batas negara. Melalui pendekatan artistik, Dipo membuktikan bahwa diplomasi tidak melulu soal politik, tetapi juga tentang sentuhan kemanusiaan dan seni.Episode lainnya yang mungkin Anda sukai:• Tumbuhkan Nalar, Berdayakan Otak | Endgame HUT RI ft Emil Salim• Tanda Engkau Belum Siap Memimpin - Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono• Jusuf Kalla: Begini Tugas Wakil PresidenJelajahi dan jadi bagian dari komunitas kami:https://endgame.id/Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini:https://sgpp.me/contactus

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if there's no there's that that's what that people can get jeblos. Now, this, people can't down-pleng this.

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since now, the Danda Bansos it's not it's not clear, by definition, what is Bansos, or it's just,

because it's more burrung, and it's more they're going to hajar from APBN, and all that the book-lucis it

is, or Batik, promosy, that's, That's as a public. Mimangy ideas of Trump that sometimes not croon-crown, this about Greenland, what, like, and I think there's balance China and Japan,

like that from Asia. Hello, my, today we're getting about Dippo Alam as a man-sac and manan CESCAP and MANTANCEC and also the Uyazan and Institute of PRADABAN. Mr. Dippo, thank you,

thank you, thank you, so much. Tell you, sir, ma'am. Bapak, from life, and then you can jemar as activist as long as technology chemo, and then S-3, in George Washington University.

How, that, evolution? Yeah. I'm like, in Mentang, the Jalan Asam Baru then because many

people menado who had made up asembaru did get to Samratulangi I'm back at

from the home to school Samratulangi SD that's just just on Kaki just because

it's Kame 3, 6 and this number 24 like that then

so. So, so I'm I'm I'm in Jakarta I'm in

in the hospital I'm in Bersalin Sister Bette Jalan Sawa Dekat Rueh

Dekat Rueh Ruehna Degat Rueh And I also I'm sure Whencue Rue for Rue

Umpres Boudiono I'm also Yeah Okay. I'm I'm glad and So, so I'm so I'm at that, but before

the people are my parents actually, uh, from Sumatra Barat, I'm, my mother, my love.

Dulu, she was Rahel, and they still was Rahel, Safril, and so, so, and,

I'm at the Yeah, we're gaul, and, I'm sure you're going to beets, in the JANETTULANGI, there's a school of PSKD, for Qutang-TU, to be in the front of SBCD-JLANDNia

in PONU-R-SUP, that's also PSCD, SMA. Now, so, it's, it's, I mean, LeBARAN, I'm a son of my Christian, Protestant,

that's, and, and, the father's my, so, my, so-out-in-lawed from-the-cac-in-a-cac-a-cac-a-cac-a-cac-a-cac-a. It's,

where, what, yeah, grega, what, it, sometimes, so, K-KKU,

that, Mus-KKau, or, Gunung, Nung, Kwitang. Now, the Gedeja,

Quitan. So, so we're used to be used to be used to another, if they're notalance,

I'm coming. And, the end up my son- my son- also, Mr. 6,

he also mousasas success. So, like, the, he's, he,

that, he is, he, that's, and, and, the, the,

and, and, and, and, And, artiness, to make amalant and also we're

saling to be sure one of the so I'm kikuk, like they, whether we're not,

the identityas but what the important is, the word, the thing, like,

that, that I'm that's that's it, then, from from the S.D. I,

S.M. Now, because I'm at SMAC I was in, the Kibisat, that's, you know, that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, when it's

DEMO, DEMO, D-30-S, and, what other what the general, we're the

matuania, FAA-SB, CAH, SAU-W-D, CLE, can, if, Salaimba.

We, our and the kids in the students like to I'm going to I'm going to go to

and I'm going to I'm I'm going school after NU. Mimili Institute

Technology Textile that in Wandong so so I'm not so much so much

I'm so much I'm not so much So, even bogor just, even, because, can, you know, the humidity, the humidity,

that's, because I'm, asthma I, because it's very, there's a very there, and then, I'm going to lookis, yeah, I'd like, but I think like, like,

like, you know, because the lagooning, though, is, so I'm just, sunni, I'm just, And, yeah, I'm at least,

I'm going to be U.I. Then I, I mean, I'm, when I'm going to, I'm going to,

my book of my opinion, in, the plurant adap in the Pimping and mempim, it's, from President

Sukarno, until the last, the President SBA, if, if, P. If,

you're, because, you can, you can, kind, not, I don't. So, so I'm

So, so I'm more I'm am being and mempins how I with my

friends, with politicians, with and and I'm and I have more

more than more, if I take on then, after by the people,

I'm I'm going to the Salim Said, yes, although I'm, I'm not like Mr. Salim Said, like, because he also,

because he also as a sutra-dharo, film, and someaghan. Now, it's a little about the problem in my family

I, I'm number three, why name I'm in Poo Alam? Now, that's part of it I'm asking. I'd tell us

in the about Ibuotin Suharto. Now, like, What name is, what? The group of the name is, Dharma Manita.

Now, Darmahana. Now, I'm making also, design, design, Batik. Because what that? Because, my father, textile in Calibata.

Now, I've made, also, Batik, and I'm going to be able to start-tark, she'd be able to

to come to stunt batik my, buty my bike I'm looking alus, that's the time long, to be it, even a year, and I'm having a year. Now, I'm like this just like this.

If you were like this, like this, but that's the top designer in Japan, Yamamoto Kansai, or Kansai Yamamoto, he wants to me, I want to me to say 1,000 meters. Where did I?

This is how much? I was like that. I was just 28, my God. Wow. So I've got to come to that. Now, actually I'd come to that I want to see Japan International Textile Machinery Exhibition. But because I've also brought design design it,

I've got to see what I'm from Mooto. He said, I'm I'm trying with the design that you make. I've been

I've been so much yeah. Now, like it's winter. Koconna before spring

time and not much, it's worth so I'm three, six months. How can't I can supply

1,000 meters? So, he's too so much so. But anyhow, that's the hubon

my, with Japan from from, what, It's the name, business, and politics.

So, that I don't think I'm damn, when I'm when I got made medal gold and

silver from from the December on November 2004, that I also,

I just also that I'm with Japan there is about it, culture, kittalian, history. So, it's even when I'm

looking, this is that I'm that I'm not saddened, when I'm not, when I'm not, when the President of the Minister who, what, H.

SINSO-A-B. SIN-S-A-B. I'm lukis, it's not, it's not, by the United. So I'm going to be the U.S. So I'm going to say,

I'maughan Masuio, Harry Ahmadi, Ketua, so d'uadee, so I'm going to be coming from as a perlucis just. But what I'm

looking Sinsho A. And I've made book of Kewa Keeh also on Sinsho A. Now, Ibu A.B. That's, B, you're doing,

I'm inmbang the lookisan also. But, but the lookasant on the guning Fuji that's also to the

people with the Ab so, it's, but when when lookhals

she, she, until tissue almost almost he'd he'd

he'd say, it's, Now, it's Sinshu Aba, with a wachopatik, too, so, so, so, he was not so

he was, he was being Aki Hab, yeah, this I look at when I'm making, there's

there, there's a also, the, the chat, it, and, all the

much, it's, it's, made, like he he lived. I'm

like, when I'm going to the next summer Aceh, yeah, I'm

see in the jembat Croh Aceh in the bough. That's, oh,

du, but I see that that's there's a woman, that, but,

she, but he's but he's not but he's but he's to get to get the

and get the and get there. I think to be I'm trying to

say that while sad and sometimes also even even want to

help I'm also the scream like Edward Manch

the scream of Edward Manch but Edward Manch can like that until

I'm still $150,000 in the land. Now, I've been also the scream that I've made but a la jembattan-Ace like,

now, then there also when I'm going to as a day four, I'm sorry as a suburbate from the post I'm also

the police eh, one TNI because it's because it's menjaga I, because it's not

Darmai But, but what I'm happy is, when we're being done by Dubas Japan,

Imura, Imura-Sang, actually, Dubes, the initiative many, for the initiative for much,

to be a part of the power of the co-damaian. But, So, it's from Mr. Jadu Jatun Kuncho Reiki Minko Pereconomian,

I'm deputy MNCO Pereconomian, I've beenpelt, depended by Dr. Jadun, and so, the repat of rapat of you,

as RANCO Polkamp, in Merdeka, barat. Now, I'm, I'm in LAPAN, Manko Pereconomian. Now,

so, So, from there, there's stories that like that because I'm going to be making when I'm looking at least Hillary Clinton with background,

the mosque, what I'm in A.C. And also George Bush Senior. I looked because. Because,

because before 9-11 And, it's in New York it was, at the time,

with the problem tsunami three years before yeah. Three years.

So, I'll lookas it so, so, America is more lunac,

not not, not, think, that Indonesia, that that's

like Isis allmach, that, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, Hillary Clinton happy. Yeah, that's happy. And he's just, he's a bit of it. So, that's, from the location that,

so, it's, it's, when I'm in job as section D-D-D-LAPAN, there are eight-Negara Islam, that's quite but much, but it's, the one of the, the other,

the President-Leghwin, who are the same, If this is a person, if this is a person, if you're nother, the engine, don't remember, tank English that's rapporte, that's,

if you were, if he's a pilot. So, so I also, I'm talking like that when I'm erbakan, Indonesia, can rations and

Malaysia is just about I said, said, why did he must he, And then. And then, and herbacan,

you know, I'm saying, I'm just don't know, I'm not you're both Indonesia and Malaysia,

while even you're little, you're big, rubbed to be true, I'm right.

I can't be able too, yeah, Erbacan. So, so, I'm,

I'm, I'm so, yeah, so, so, the, the scream,

that, that, and, And also, a little, run, baby run, like that, wow, I'm, I'm going to, why I'm coming up, why I'm coming from the other than the other countries that are small,

that's in the world, like, like, because, because, people who are people who have the money, certainly, raja-mini, and, such a much, are people who areansuble, the people who areentat,

There's a lookusan barat, so I think that's a good, there's sexy, sexy, like that, so like that, so, that's not, that's not,

if you're not, I'm going to be, not too much pamerin, this, but if if it's a... So, so,

so, so, so, so, so, there, also, there's there, so much,

in the I'm going to the value naïk. Now, like this too, if you're if you're the price $350,000

this, make a buoys that's a pachitan, that's 50,000. Now, now I'm just like this because like this because,

the last, what, Pang Liani, said, saying, that's, it's, it's, it must be pitting,

what, name, don't even to make cacao police, if you're if you're if you're like a

weapon, like, that's I'm looking like that sometimes, so that's the same as

A.B. Tadhii that I'm too, I want to say, and I'm saying,

I'm, I'm, I'm making, because I'm making, yeah, and what they she's,

and what they're, what, what batick there are kupu, who the k'a,

AB, so success, it's meant to give kind of, what name A, AK, A.B. This,

this, the disan for demaiian, this, this is kind very, in expression

artistic that's that's done that's done, now, this, now, this,

to be somebue to up any anyone, to be it in the United to make the diplomacy

with the world. Yes. Well, as I said that I said that I used when

when lobby America so after 9-11 for for the people and dengare like Indonesia

don't be musuin. So, So, when I was still as a second day-d-lap, krepcane-america that are in Washington DC, eh, that's in Istanbul,

intelin I, talking about it, the problem economy, and, to politic, and, and, to the other, kind of, like, and, to be it. Yeah, I'd say, well, as a second-genre, I'd say that. Because of the

factually, the Wackil I, Sejian, that's from Iran. So, it's really to gintelin

he also about about Iran and the kinds of all kinds. So, when there

three pendaki Gunung America, I did write, in in the

what, what, the biography my, my, what, um, um,

um, uh, uh, that was did three people, there's a woman one,

then that Martinata Legawa as a manlu lapar, the result of his his own by Hillary

Clinton in the in the United in Paris, like that. I'm going I'd just, then. Then, after that,

then, Marti-Polang, I was being Sarban Pagy with P.S.B. In the Istana, in the back-and-a-bac-bac-bac-bac-bac-bac- What I'm saying? GALF. Bagi.

Then I was, in-belakang, dener. Heller Clinton, Minta, for Indonesia, because SBA is just about 17, what, what, the Rohanian-iwanaoan Korea, Southan, which is, what, name, uh, in Iran, that's a,

when I was done to ask you, I said to say with the, B. How did I ask you, if I'm going to approach Ahmadinejad as president Iran, because Ahmadinejad, he said, because he was going to be able to, because he was the mainst, because I'm going to win himping, so I'm going to win her, and be chosen as a second day, eight, before I'm going to beckhury-d-lap because I'm doing such a cup. I'm going to beckycemiya, I'm going to think, think, think, back, back,

It's a lot it's not not yet not yet but I'm not still but he

thinker in because that he was in the penjara Evin is just my friend

I'm in there's in Teheran in what yeah in Iran that now

if I if I'm if I'm like people people of America that

can't Cacian, too, maybe not private SB. But, Y'A. Nguyen, because from three, what I mean, there's a person, out of the men, comellandes as a woman. Yeah, it's good,

that, said, if, if you can't beauched. That, all right. Go, go, like. Yeah, with model, just $50, U.S., like, to go to the U.S. and Iajan, right, right?

Now, go, we're going to be. we're here. We're going to Ahmadinejad. But Ahmadinejad Sadd, she's kind of, he's

kinder too. I'm up in the president. So I'm there to get to say, he

said, okay, the means what? I mean, I say, I'm going to write, the president

SBA to the Bapap President, Amad Nijat to kirang,

can't beaubbank and and can three hikers that

that that if you know if that if you said that

I'm I'm back you if there other other asing

to to the country you know any formal document

what you can you do you can be I'm that I'm that that I

can't Now, now, now, three people are that's not the most of the people, said it. So,

they're malachia, me, the other one of one, one other than I know, that's not a lot of, yeah, now you can't

be anter the first of myven, who's nothan the people people, America, who's ramed,

who, who's to even, you know, Then I said, oh, that's the President, that's the way I'd have ragged. I'm going to be skeptical,

maybe he'll be like that. He's like that, but the young, the revolutionary, because if we can all of the joan who joan so, no,

no, no, so. So, so I think, not that, you know, upon that,

I said I was saying I'm not, I'm going to say I'm going to say, I'm going to die from, I'm going to be. If I'm going to be able to. So, so, it's all right. This is all right. Now, this is I'm not going to be able.

But here are you, but it's, but, but, but who's who who may bebebasked? Kepal Intel, the William Burns, Bill Burns.

No Burns. Burns is well, but he was still in PBB, yeah? Yeah, Bill Burns.

Bill Burns, but he spent also ever came to Cantor Satskap because Dino, Kassi Tau.

Dino, as a man, you, cast to know that, I'm being put up to get to

Sateran to beaversk that. So, Bill Burns, if I'm $50, Bill Burns,

he's, He was paid, he's He's been with backside, uh, back side, uh, yeah,

the bill bus. He said, he's done the woman, he's bare it, he's not that.

Yeah. Yeah, he's, he's, it's, yeah, it's, now,

now, now, I'm, I'm, like, this, this, this,

what, um, yeah, iran with, what, situation now, ,

I also learned, who's, this, who's the idea of, what, what name, the people, intelligence, America, that's, like Bill Burns, they're always, what that's back-sides just.

So, with cuckong, cuckong, from raja raja araab. Now, if we're the other from Bill Burns, there's, like,

this, can't, yeah, can't, but, but not. So, So, the storytale, when she was the

catica he was on the year old-tawn the next there's book you, yeah? Yeah, so, this, uh, this Jind Ping. I'll be able to say to Tzu-Ping.

I was there, I was in the when I was giving the when he was looking for. Oh, that, yeah, that's right? Now, then I'll know when I'll lookish him. Ratu Elizabeth, when I was in the long time of the 1990, I'd lookis to him.

He's very very much. It's really about this time long as this time this time. Because I was interviewed like CESCAPNs also, about

about RATU Elizabeth, when came to Indonesia with a couple of the boat, but it's not,

he's not, he's going to Indonesia, special, he's from London, to go to Australia. Mampere, dula, to India, all kinds of, like, nail,

then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, to be able to be in

Australia. So, the whole time that, 60, I can look-lake. So, so, I'm, making

frame-n- special, I've been especially situation in Bali the location

that he with his wife his um the

um the same which made and person from Bali that

can and also the white white light the

color the tinta the English too again he

she she I was back, she Bill Burns, gave a surat to me. Ratel Elizabeth was very and then, even there 50 Raja Raja Arab want to give him

the Tandah Mata Cado for Rato Elizabeth, he's also, jekyll, because Diana can what that's who that that's

from Herds. Ah, yeah. Yeah, Erich, yeah. Yeah. So,

he's not rema. What you have, he's got she'd be. Memang, I'm making

E2R, Batik, that's, so the logo so. So, the end, I'm really

very so much I'm, to Jakarta, tanyata, it's that's

that's, it's, I'm agate, that. Because I can stay in Jakarta

Timur. Jakarta Timur, alamat room I'm, kind, the curahann

what that, that's, what, that who, the area what, uh, the,

um, people, Polang Mudik, that, what, the, that, the,

the, the, there's, there, there, there, there, there,

there, there, Kingham Palace Post, that's, no, no, no, no, no,

it's really, pengacuan, yeah, from R. R. Elizabeth, he's happy so,

when I'm saying, E2R, what, BATIC, that I'm, and I'm, and I'm, Batik,

and that I make, the, on 21 April, on the year, that's, the day, the day,

hard in, where we're, where we, with appreciates, the power of women. That's the thing, he's then he's just, and when I'm,

when I went to when I was, there's a film, there's also, and it's not, and it's about the time it, and it's about,

it's a bit of the data's, so, so I think, he'd get to, he'd come to that,

that's actually that's, it's, not, film, what that, that, the,

the United States that H.I. that's that the U. that's... In dangerously, what? Years of living dangerous. Years of living in dangerously. Mel Gibson. That's top, that,

or... Or, when... When 8.2. When that, the other, people, that's...

Socaro, feed your people, and, and, that's fact that I look. is, when the Uttan

English that in the front bunderan H.I. It's not the year of living dangerously, I see.

And, we're really, we're not feeling happy. Because I, my, I'm a, my dad,

I can't have been a token in Reksenan. In-mano where, people, people,

if, brought carung brass, do, they wachar-w-w- -d-s-w-traked, that, And,

and it's a bad- in the time of the P. What I'm

what-n- name- it, it's got to be so. I'm not-

so- so-tulis- so- -sema, and why I might be U.

because Marwa-E can make Pidatee in M. in Salaembao

U. And, when when when, when it's there's a reality that's

that's the way that's so much just the from the salemba up

after proebb weapons, people, people, people, people, people,

people, people, but if baret I'm that's from from the

java, that's getting to get to get us we're I'm up at

the mhm Rahman in salemba that, nipip mintip, if if

if, if, if, if, if, if, with Hattip Bastri, what is that. We have been who's about, we're going to put

in the mosque Arif Rahman, Hakim, that. Because, it's, because it's, from Javad Timor, Jav, Teng, I don't know. But if from Koppas, they're going to, that's, that's, that's bionette, it's all over, that's,

all that's all the other, that's the way, lukesan with Japan, or with English. Yep. Yeah. Now, Paul, this I want to try to make correlations

between activism in BAPA with expression artistic. Yeah. Or, that's alur or the trussan

that in alamia in the yeah. Yeah, I think yeah. Because if I look in the life, the, when I was a little,

to, activisman is quite, to, to expressing something, but maybe after

more more more the way the way the person through the

expression that's evolution that's important incremental or too

just grastis? I'm incremental is so so it so so

so if I'm going if I'm when I am that this is that

by Ginajerk Katas Sashita because I'm lookis Pah

Ginanj be said in the comment about this comment about the book this. If I'm

who I'm rapids, yeah, monochies and and then and then when

Dippo have two two-d-d- and that. Now, if I take chemistry, why?

Yeah, because I'm because I have, I have public textile, and I

have been chemistry in, what-namation the, the, and, who,

then, I, then I, there's a chemia. I don't want, I'm going to like, kind of,

but what I'm that I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm Azis, at the Cornell University. So,

so if you like that, I'm like that, I'm at the head of the men, Massisua, U.S.,

but, Because, from from him, I'm from he was in Cornell, I'm at Washington University, Washington, D.C. So if Iwan ginnap, I'll get to Washington DC, yeah, nipment in my apartment but I've never, I've never been in here

at Cornell, that. But, even, I'm not even heabat, like, still, I'm saying he's great, I'm the most of the comment that he, that's the most of the most of the main, he's making mathematical, what, that's, if you look, if he'll look at,

there's commentar that he, he, what, what, nametical mode that he'd that he'd make, that, depot is,

I decide you, and, who are willing a friend who that's the number for you, it's a defined number for you, he doesn't want to be with with a friend who's, with kakwasaan.

So, so I'm with Iwan Aziz and it's been very and even, even, even, I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to.

I'm going to. Marry, when, when, back, I was just, He'll make me into what, yeah? What book that's the other?

What? Listen and do. Something like that. But, but book before, the periphery. Now, intonement, he's,

based on reset it or studying, he, or studying, that, it's, many so, there's quite, the wirausaan,

not just because the or penanaan but it's but it's socialization communication and in the

people in the people who are in the government the area or who are that that they want tojolk again

someata we do turn to and thenurs complain on the curangly fullus

that and if if the before that I'm I don't know I'm going to be blurb in the book the intinion

about how the economy is more to the area to make sure thaning can the country or even in

that the area that if I get to meet she's like I talk about about you like I'm good, it's

like that and this this I'm this I'm going this, this is I'm if I'm look at

paradaband in over a thousand years this, the world that's that's that's

that's the people that's more okay, and getting and the

if it's essentially to be to be comminations on the power of and

the power of the because it's there's there's I'm going to look Indonesia is

how much as a partaband? Now now, now, that's that's

A. Moloou who who got Nobel Prize economy 2004

people, right, with James Robinson. Now, that's kind of problem

the If it's a If you're If you're about with the problem with with the

other than I'm that I'm amelike it because I'm amelike it. Because I'm now being

the ketua and the what name the problem of the problem it's very

important and that we're from Ibnok Hadun I'm I'm Al-Dun Abn al-Dun

Ambasia Yeah, so That, can we talk about about about about the

people and the so I'm al-Haldon it is

un-sale the member of the with the al-in-a-ul-a- so

the he's right. He is right. So, so, so, we're also from,

what-n- -n-a-n- -a-n- -an- -an-a-old- -an-in- So, so, Ibn al-Dun, also a one of a scholar with the book he that's a big, that he's a big.

So I also, I'm just about to beca, and I'm so. So, it's really, yeah, what Iwan Aziz, too, with mathematical model, that, I'm very and I'm, and I'm also, to what? Up to now, when, when I was on the time Emil Salim, the year of the 95.

1999. 994, this November. Yeah, that's in the time, in the Taman Mini. Now, I also made a lookicant Emil Salin in, what name, in Sumat, so, since the suna of the sunnays, I'm also lookish-billoo. I just imagine, Emil Salim is the first

Ketua Dewee. The first. Now, ever can't we menhacka problem that poor from him

from politics, in everything, in everything, by private he, he's the man, he's a professor, and I'm

I'm banga, I'm going to lookis him. I'd like to give him at a time at a time mini.

So, so, so, I'm really, I'm still, I'm, think, even,

even, he's, even, he's, D-Wan- in Cornell, he was, at the room

he, he, still, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,

political, the time of era President Suharto or Sukarno, Suharto, and so-teroos there's name of Buruk, from Emil Salim. So what's what's been said with the Ache-Mulhu this, that's correct. And that's also what is what is what Ibn Haldun, that's about the problem,

so if I make, when I'm a Dewan-Mashisua, I'm the UAN, I'm, Ketwana, sonat, masasasua economy, we know, we're always

also be communication, so, until, until now, the personabat our sub- people,

even, yeah, men are very smart, I'm very smart, I'm much from he and he's very afferifan,

carifan. Ibnuk Kaldun, too, intisari from many the many the people, that's much

we're, to show to give an interbukes to investigate ulang pre-existing truths, even axiom, which we've got to be able to be able to do not, but we're also to make investigation along.

And he also often say that, that's usually is written by who's who not who's who's who's who's who's who's-and-sia-allant-a-documentation. So, there's bias, there elitization in documentation.

I'm not. But, back to Indonesia. This also also nambuilu and James Robinson that's institutionalization of the can't bring uphabiling and curfutusant, it's

important. To the, we're as a badaband, is it enough mennooking can getterbukes to meddle between the quatting innovation, or maybe

still be able to be able to thinkat kind of. I'm sure that I'm saying it's still be able to I think it I just

also buy book about money banos as as a I wrote

I wrote I also I also I'm paradaband also that I'muk Alden

that back again to Acheemolo that the problem caterbukaan. I said I did

tell the book and Bansos. Just imagine 2020 we've got COVID. Until even

even the book that's written that by people people people that

and tell us that I'm that I'm that definition

that I'm about the problem what what name is, Pansos

that's not jellas. Not jolas apac the minister

social that's corrupt, who's Julia Batubara or what that

that, you, not know, the proper not I'm not

what I'm that I'm that is a problem that that's yes,

but that is, in a lot of if you if there's there's that's that's

that's that's people are people who can't get domplang this now by definition

it's not gratis from we're we're doing we're good he talks

very good and and he's full dynamism and the perciation of the yeah

but but I'm I think what what I'm about Aciamolu or Ibnukhaldin, if not

it's just by definition what is what that is the company or even now because it's not

because it's because because of the definition I'm just the matter is back to lookisand back to

lookissan and also with politics. So, with peradaband, it's always had to be the definition. What, what you're going to make. What, as a as a member social, malady he's corrupt. And he's the other than when

was the era of Joquovi, yeah, the, of, that, yeah. So, so I mean, What I'm really is, the problem of the legal this is

the problem the world and it is yes and even with the lookisan lookisan and

try lookisan era Europe mayju that many that much

that when Ottoman even even that's a bit of and and we've seen lookusan, the workings of Europe

that long, abat the 18, 17, 19, it's going to be able. Massal of the family that's beener. Yeah.

Penneweeingan, penelangangangang, all of them. It's all right. How do we make unwinded our our own? What's the

we're going to talk our guy, our people, the same, the people, the people, the right of Indianisia,

can't get it. Don't, the, not the, just the , now, again, kind of.

Now, that's many other than that acimolovi, that's true, the loggiaan and getterbukaan. I, if you're talking at campus, about people,

and, the people, and I, I always answer that, that's the people, in the dimension

apomps, want, academic, want usah, more political, want policy making, want spiritual or what? They're not coming from planet Mars.

Not come from planet Jupiter. But it's coming from our own. Now, this I'm going to make that I think I'm going to say, the fact of the penitical. Because penediction, because penedican, is, if I think,

is very coronation with parhadaban. Now, if I see, 88% from from the room tango to

the head, not the bopan, not the bopan, not, them'll make the end up, and 93%

from the electorate that yoblos, that's not the notemolos. So, yeah,

we're run-tong, because our people we're put- penidiciccan, and prioritizing for the

the kids. So, the I'm not to disrupts positive to get in the education to do it in the home tanga. But just true, in school.

Because if at the the room, the head, it's only with 2 or 3 or 4. But at school, guru with about

50 to 300 and so. So, to scale up disruption that positive, that's a more than it could be going to be in school.

But problem if I see, not curriculum, not technology, but just true in quality of the quality of the teacher. Now, this, if I'm bandinged with Singapore who,

who's recruit, that's from percental 20 percent of the top of the who's lulles from all the perguron-country-slatan, 5%

the top-tingy, percentile. I'm sorry, if in Indonesia, that's, maybe, you know, not as far as well-

from, but, in the most, that is, there's not that's not the time. Yeah,

right? Now, this, we need, we need, we're doing to do experiment idea.

I have a keyerginal in batas intuition if in one code post that guru that's that garrar

ongap we'll gage 100 million. That smoot smut in that who will

know who. And maybe people who did makehensi may he gombe to be

there. Orang that today maybe disrupts in can do you can't Myeongong not only the country

but sucur-sugur pradaband that's great. How about, Ibu? Yeah, I think am being this. Manga that,

I've ever made book a little. Don't be bring it, to, be a member indoctrination.

Now, Now, now, I'm I'm sorry I've got to know with the people and people and thentunner,

yeah, I believe the opportunity when I I was in Nipa UI, Bapa Dias, Sumantri of Jadongoro

is also also, so much, So, So, so, Yeah, as, as,

as, as, Burtamina, Menti, Energy, still but for we're still

class sarjana but the most the most we're making we're medica

from he also professor Salmott Imman Santoso yeah wow that philosophy of

science so so so so much yeah so we're

we're we're learning philosophy of science so so so that means we're not really

Two other again, what namahs, what's the people, and to be about it again like like

like, yeah, pura, or what, or not not, I'm going to make a book.

Yeah, I'm still, this, if I'm doing, my, my own in the people,

to pay-p-p-p -pary-plas, it's more better, buy a major new, get to look at how the Trump

this time is going to bela gila-gila. And I'd say, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, economists,

like that much, yeah, to get to what, what's, what's the thing, I think that's

that's true. If, and I'd say, we're, people who are who are people who are in the

this now is that there is that they're to be as a

as a we're we have even must, so it's the and the

of the and hire them because Lipi was being Nookan Hakim, in junior I.

He, he's made to make make up can agar professorship from peneliti that's in what the

name, Indonesia, like Lippi, BPPPT, since the time HB since now being brin,

uh, that, it's, same with Tuningan Kennerja from Burgundy. Al-hmillah I'ma

Ike tunjangang kineer from the penit-pennit that's including BPP-P-P-T

also. So, it and there Pungerbanan for that So, what else,

if we're going to doaken, President Prabawa now, the problem with non-Decan gratis, should, by definition, has clear, to be, what it is,

get, don't, don't even, like, Bansos. Sometimes, if there's, it's not delit,

president that's that's been so the sameat, and have been keyakinan, and, you're, optimistic,

So, it's just to dook. So I said, if I had said, if you're not a lot of young who are still in the matter of practice AI this, yeah, it's not much. And if we're back, if that's,

they're, the people, in R.R.T. Apak, the, in America, this is now the time. So, this is now the time. So, so. the people litig,

par par parangas, all the people, like the samegast Professor Salmat Iman Sancho or Sumanteri Broja Denghoro who, who, now, and,

you know, menuntet the lehmaghani the company that's been set, aubucoa. Now,

now, now, you know, even, now, again, using, to be able to talk,

detut, and can, it's, and it's, and, it's, It's all the time. People don't

not be able like the case of case of now. So, so maybe sometimes

that's that made per-press or cap-press that, that's that, want-to-

I'm-wanty I'm- when-a- -s-s-s- -s-s-n-s-n-s-n-s-n-s-n-l-l-fad. That, I'm-minted-blet. However,

that's even they've been tunjangan kinerja not as their work because we're we're having to

have to be and we're having to be press and kepress for president and kind of sometimes P.S.B. P.S.B.

P. And, I'd say, want, even, from the from the from the he hasual rapid cabinet

he said he was he asked Mr. Pah Dippo this is aman yeah aman,

man, right? Ishmila iramanirohim staccan. Now so, so

the if you're if you also and I think it and I think it

even even I'm I'm that's that's it's just because because of

that's problem this this is it's a yeah I'm that I'm

when I'm in the two abat tsunami he came to see Christi that he's

he's like trewet but but he's but they have had and also and also

Now, in A.C. I see, I see, people, there's annaq muddha, because in Bermudas, sometimes when they're men, men, men, and not in A.C.,

that's, about, yeah, about, and, like Iwan Aziz made in the modeling, modeling,

mathematical, mathematical modeling, it's, there, to put in, to make- curate-and-mash-sunami to,

how how how much, the power, the kind of when I was going to lookis tsunami Aca, that's a that's

because it's the construction of the most that's that with that's that

that's that's and people when when when it's when there when

there's scholars in there has made even book and

made modeling modeling about about the matter and the

so I'm also I'm also when there was

tsunami the the particular that in the palu

that liquefxi I can I also melcueufx because about

about the microfaxi, I spent special minta with the Bupati from, I don't know, that, the province, the pastur of liquidation, huh, suh, so on the tinaw. Likovaccyne, it's, I'm going to me, I'm from the chat of in inymp, and, also, what,

what, number, whatever, like, I'm, I lookis, and I, I didn't know sadder. When it's more, more menace,

more men rink, more, more, more, I'm going to that's, I've been given that in the Istana

he, the Istana, the Estan, in Kareh. And, why I think I'm going to Erdoan,

a meschit special that had been hantam by liquefaxi that, so, to make-enacted

it, to not only in ACE not only in Turkey It could be oh,

sode-Gat-Giott BIOs, it's right now so, so I'm, so much, and I'm

that I'm and I'm two dasaw in Acese when I came back, I'm going to the majuance

many, and the case, the museum tsunami that's the idea- by the

Ritwan Kamil made. I'm going to and it's even when I'm on the time. Even from Malaysia, Singapore

and they're that's coming. And this kind of made the waspadaan if it's if it's if it's

if it's not we're actually in Jakarta or depok that tsunami that's a tsunami that's it could be

Oh yeah yeah so that's that's what I'm the what I'm at times what I'm happy

Look at all right in ACEH, many commasurable, that liquidification that with system modeling that's been, forecast. Now, now we're looking what's going to be

like in California. I can't be able to, I'm not know, that's the effect of the fact of the truth, I'm really, I'm going to ask to people

my friends my friends I, that we discuss in the Majilis Reboan at Institute of Abatabhan, try to

look, that what, what's the cause of the United and as big as many. So, why we have

we have to learn that. So, so, we're just, webas, I, it's not,

that's, there's, there's, there, and then from the B.M.K. Not be able to.

And I'm that's been there's been from the professor, professor muddhany their,

that, that's, it's, it's, that's, made, the system modeling

that, which, which is from Cornell University that they're kajee. And, it must be that.

So, the company like Brin should be like that's like not, the systemah making,

project, project, just, like, that's, about, about about,

I, I, too, I'm not much, probably, that's, if,

cognizying that's not, right, and this, data data that's more

longer, it's more notot. This is related with how much IQ we're rata rata just 78,

0.9. How much Singapore, to, Korea, Southan, 105, 106. Ashkenagzi,

Jews, that, maybe 115 to 125. Pisa. For the kids, for 15

years, proficiency lingual or, and proficiency STEM, science, technology,

engineering, mathematics. We're number 6, 9, from 81 which is 1, Cambodia number 81, Singapore, number 1,

Tijuana, number 2. Vietnam, who's done in 7, 5, was up 20, if not the same, if not the same,

in Asia, Tengara, it's only two countries that score the up as Rata Rata Rata Duna,

Singapore and Vietnam. Then, If if we look, portion of manufacture, it's done from high-20s to 18% from PDB.

Then we look productivity marginal for the person per-of-town in Indonesia, that $25,000. Singapore,

$200,000. So, this data data that's that's that's to we're notat to us.

And, if, I think, this has in buddhaia-kuday-bud-bac-bac-buc. Right. Right. Right.

Right. Yeah, and, and the, and the, if I'm not that I'm think, I'm trying to, which they're not can't be a bitacan and opinion.

Because they're not can't be facta, more than opinion. Now, that's that's a bit more aga-agued can. But the two, I'm not-that-you-

we're, as a country, or even we're in from what I've been from what I've seen fatig expectations. We're just hopeless and we're not

we can't be because we're not being that the penicapence. How about? Yeah. So I think I'm going to what I'm doing like the

Kingin'am President Prabwe by with making gratis. It's not a one. if it's tackled in

tackle in the consumption from the people in the area of the area

that's it's right right as basic the basic the but the

piece of the the the company it's it's it's

the data that it's in not not not

not the to come back, the Dandah Sos just, it's the book that I

know I'm not quite it's not not quite just like definition what is Bandsos

like to give the governor or maybe pura or just because they're

more they're enough to make them than APBN and all that's that's

that's that Paroboa also waspada that with with the gratis

it's to make it from the physical and also the brain of the heart of

the child the issue the issue of the same. So, so, I'm not I think

the smanat this, we're bant and certainly people who can manage

that may like, like, the of the of the umannan which Aci Mulhu

said that we're and what what's that we can make, that is

it, m'acta mathematics and and it, like, like,

the looka and the place that I looka the place Bapagita, I'm and I'm sorry, because of that, I can't pay for example, because I don't remember,

to, buy in for the other than, for the other people who, didn't really, I've got to buy in, for the child, like, and I'm not, this is a cuddast, so, so I'm just so much,

so I, so he'senen-gut-you-l-you-l. So, so, so, so, what, I think that it's, I think that's true, the problem

the company and also program from Parabho, I think, I think, it's not about, the problem about,

and, and it's not the problem the people who is being said about Acheemolu this, it's,

that's, from the people people, the people, people, the, so, yeah,

Sri Muliani make, you can, yeah, but, but I'm, but I guess I'm

He was very much He made the matter in the government in the government

that he'd write and it and it was how much he

in the A.m. From there in the Banteng at the Kementrian Kuang

I think she she even even that's that what he was

in the book biography to be able to by the plazari. The end up, the time it's the has to be made

because I'm doing that I'm from the other my other so before

I'm I'm making the name's what I'm what tunjian

keneerja jos. So, we're not like toki-min so k'emin so, so the tunion

canaja minim that, but But the most coccat, I've been able to, because the Dedek, as a manorke, like in America. So I just, I've been able to say,

I'm in book this, DEDA is the most Ketat. He's not as a member of the bank, who's, which is, it,

lollosk, so. So, but I, I, said, I, D-D, D. That's the

people who are people who are in money, the people, because why it's not, because it's about

dis-samein. Now, the, then, he's been to be to be the American,

this, she, they're interviewed in this so, so, so,

he's, I'm, I'm, I'm asked, dejan to be in the

friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, my , Ascolani, Mr.

Slanee, I said, how we have we have been, there, there, there,

there, there, there, I'm going to make in, this, I'm going to say,

I'm, the staff, what the job, the job, got, potang panting, I've been

doing, can't, naikin, I'm going to take-in, yeah, so. This,

Fadi, po, from what, the name of the what I'm the set cup or the set-neck making-a-kut-

and make-a-u-da taken to PSB, PASB, PASB, PADPOin, this is all right, said,

I've got to phone, Degan-Garang, DITN-N-A-D-D-D. Okay, Bismilah, T-Kan. Put-Lang,

and, they'd come to the SET-N-N-T-N-N-T-Nek. desartic. Padipo, not this, this is, this is

back in, that's the money, and I'm really, I'm gonna be giving, manak buah, I'm sorry,

I'm still, I'm still, I'm still, I'm still, I'm gonna, bank of the time, I'm gonna do,

sell asset I'd do, then, then, he's, he's gonna too, yeah,

he'll be back, he'd be cast, man, the, man, the, man,

the, man, all, the, man, This is experiment idea. It's related with the fact that you're saying

about many about the biggain the biggmy how for the kids young and and children and chucuc

our, to more can be able to beca book. There's not see? There's

the biggaken to to beabatsy consumption MedSOS by people, people,

people, from the men'sat. Consumcy Metsos in HAPE. Oh, Metsos in HP. This is in Australia. They're just

Draconian. They're making givejointed which is a young 12-year- to-bawak- not-boh- not-Bet-Sos.

Dikarnakan, this is there study that too, if I'm not academicist and realistic, which can't

justify net-sos that too excessive, it's been correlates with what we talked about, incapacitist to make bedacken facta

from opinion, even degradation spiritual, which is degradation intellectual. Because, this, but,

not the content content in Metsource is not good, which is much. But the good, but the more much. Yeah,

and we're doing we're too under-protective. to have activities online. We're too overprotective to have activities offline. We're looking at our

our caters if they're afraid if they're offline, right? But we're not too protective on what he'll look at the HPNia.

And if we're we're talking malem, just 1,000 5 minutes, but he'll get HAPE 8 to 10 time, we can't know and we

can't curation what he'll get. In Tyeongkok, they who are they who are them buwocked like red note or TikTok they're also them batisi

what can be seen what can't if you're using things that's things that's important to be important to credit social

now this if we're if we're not not we're not know calibrations like what

if we're not we're not about things like that about how about the book this

can and, yeah, it's soil it to we're onong the world that's great to the front. Yeah, that's

true. So, it's true. So, it's not sometimes, sometimes we can't we look, can, I'm,

that's also, I'm going to be the mangan, yeah, wazelah, not a salle AI, and all the kind of

that's like, if I was, if I was going to Periplus, I bought a few books I asked the I just took the child who's

two children from there's he had already already already started and it's like like that

like that like that's like that and the and it's more more than as I

see so I look so so so he's what

not what um because because it's also also

it's not like if buy mattress mattress that

And, and, it's it's many from our our own

our our own with many of we're giving examples and

facilitation and how many, book book that took book that now

what, what name for the children and it not only

only only periplas but also some talk of book

agama and I think people, especially Islam, giving them, what I mean, the other than, book of the book that now, more than to be able to do see what, and he's got,

and he's got, and he's got from the sikap, from the other, yeah, muskil, like, so, yeah, so, sometimes,

people, sometimes, people, but I'm I think that, I'm really budae this is from from the

from the because if if you're just about school, I think not too. So, interaction in the

people of the people, that I'm saying, saying, why Singapore can

can't because because that's because I think that what what is, in the in the room that we can't even in

the government, and in parliament we have to be able to be able to be able to in time in time, maybe in Taiwan, may as well, people are in front of townog-tonjok-and-you- Now,

it's got to be it like, all of that but that in the time with AI like like this I,

I'm not, I'm going to people, people are people who are not with a Problems is that, ma, so, but, it's structural.

Yeah, we're good. Because our own-towah our own our own people are prioritizing. Because maybe they're about the room of the home of the not-punay-one. So I, I think we, I see,

in batas intuition, yeah, ma'am. ... for the importance of the education, the, that's the time that's in the school.

So, Okay. And I was in cubu that I'm saying that, the other that's more than he's more than to be able to be be sure that he's more than to be visicawan than the a he can't becerita.

Yeah. So, guru at level TK, S, D, SMP, SMA, university, that has, jago, and,

and has been topang with cogniz. That's, yeah. Yeah. Padipo, this the last, about the democracy.

Panangan, Bapa, how do you know about about about the same, falsafah, peradaband,

buddha, pedic, pedamayan, the last. Democritus. How, democracy, I think,

one of course, again, again, yeah, like in the book I, yeah, because,

when, when, when, when I was in the era Suharto. I mean, I'm like this era Suharto, apalike, after Paginanjar, I'm in Papanas, I had been in Papanas,

miener Pellita 6, repelita 7. Memang, leadership, leadership that's been takenolk, Paginanjah, Gatheh, Ketka, when we used on the pletta 6, Repetita 7, also,

the muntry Ristak of Habibi, It's how leaders like that like that, with leadership that there and also, the problem the leopagaan that that's going to build, that's really that's amazing.

So, when I'm using repelita-6, repealita seven, in the Bawah, Ginajar, can, that's that's, you know, from professor from where that when it was,

when you used repelita 6, Repelita 7. So, when I was discussing with some of the recant

that, many I'm learning and topang also by the time my time my time

to learn and the problem as a matter as well. So, since I can't play golf,

this, there's there's, but, Bollagob, B'A bo'a bag, yeah.

Many people golf that can't make sure. Now, because because why? I, like that, because I mean, yes in the plighted

and number of pliata 7, this is for you, partner like I, that's like I, so. So I'm in the list it also, or, you know,

and I, Kata, yeah. Japan, I have a new, Kata, when I'm, Kata. When I'mka,

from, assistant and the help mehameh Kuh, Muslim institutions, that also also on my good. So,

I'm, so I'm also, also learn from Ginnanjar with the

people, the economy the people, the economy, the thing this is, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, that's I think I'm the kind of

I'm think the what name a name a can't from

honor penj menj pmkg if if they bmkag can

casian he ma'am just that just that just just how not because

I'm not I'm I'm I'm that I'm that did naiqued for people who

who can't care of the un-namban the gunnobri and I'm

also hubunging what Japan to help lightening from

museum geology that in Bandu to to makeawet and

also and also from the mission mission that Maybe people who can't

think that not important but I know that honor their with

and the Japan the Japanese and the the problem the dismayan

Ache I perjank why the Japan this Japan this madele me

the gold and silver that I'm by the science department

of technology from Philippines. It's been there in Manila. ADB, he's in Vanilla. So within

lunch break, yeah, I'm in fact come to the company ADB. I'm president

ADB, in Japan. Ligieg in Tokyo. That's Mark Sullivan, Vice President America.

I try for the money AC can be tapang with the economy that is made by ACA in the carean alamia. I've got to get

from the people bureau of the plan for that popoac Iskandar Muda need not to keep because gas

the last the export in fact we have we've got there in the problem perindustrian and in the

problem economy and the lembagan. Now, then I said also, ACCA craft, ACA, it also, also, has to be built. Then, she Mark Sullivan, Vice President. Well, I'm going to say. Okay. Thank you.

What about your request? Now, can you convince me? me, I will report to the president of the ADB. What is the discussion of us? Could you call? Minister of Industry? Tungki Arriwibw. I called.

Patungi, I'm at Pallam. I'm at the ADB now in Manila. I'm going to pay to loan $300 million dollars for to make the pubic

puke Skandar Muda and ACEC Krav also survive because this this is to propang per-economian

in ACE so that's not ribut that I'm going to okay telephone Patungke I'm depot

I'm in Manila at DIB now in the In the front of my husband, Vice President of ADB. He wants to get a kind of what I'm saying what I'm saying, what I'm saying, 300 million US dollar,

for two public that, is it true? It's true? It's just, he said, yes, I agree, I agree. Okay. Now, the most difficult one, Ministry of Finance, Ministeriality, Marimhammed,

Mari-Mahmahat, I call Mari-Mahmahat, because I'd toulouseyka to be here. Bang-Marie, al-A, al-A, bra-katu, gul-salam, and what I'm-Salam, what I'm-A-D-Po. I'm now,

I'm going to face-president HADB, mengajukan, loan $300,000, I said, that, for the public, Pupuk, Iskandar-Muda, and also Arche-Kraft. So-Jip, or not?

Yes, I agree, Gita. Waddu. So, within lunch, break, so $300,000, you'd get, like, so. So, it's the idea,

this is, this is, made credit point I'm doing the credit point and also with the United States. With the problem

the Pardamanan AC. So, for the Pardamian AC, in Japan, I, with P.S.B., I can't

can't be able to explain what the case. Because I'm happy that I'm who got got a medal this, Manguntoro, Mangusubroto. That's I. That's I. So I think,

many times this is, but it's not really, the people in Japan that's all about me. I don't know. He's, I mean, he's my fee I, that's all of the

heartiness, yeah, so it's nother, I'm taking with your and I'm with my mom when I'm that after that

dinner, we're that we're about about about the situation, and I'm that's Xi Jinping,

that's right? That's he did you know because I lookkes, they? One, 2013, yeah?

Just imagine. When we're before the President China, who's in Hu Chintangutu, like that. Now, that we're,

we're getting to get translated, we can't be like the English, but thewana. Basa,

well, that. Lama, that. Then, then, after, after break,

then I, I'd ask, I, I'm, I'm, because, I mean, it's a lot of course. I'm going to say,

I'm going to be. I'm sorry. I'm going to say it's not. He's got to America, satan or gendro, like, in the way,

in BASC, and this is I'm not enneak about Mr. he's the he's opan, got any,

this, this, the mitra of, this, the, if, Xi Jinping, 1 October

He was He was up by Patagonist China 2 October 3 October He'd come to Indonesia He's met with SBAE

because we're What name He already He's already He'd already So So I'll So I'll lookis

with Hispirene Madame Pengli Yuan He's He's cute Now, pinter. Peny. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, and... Jango. So, it's bad. General, but, that's... General, right. So, it's a day, so, two days, he's got to come,

and he's happy. I make this batikna, Batika, Semaran. Wow, so. So, this, this, Xi Jinping, I translate, in the English, in English,

the English, and, what, BASA Mandarin So, so, so when they he psalmered

in the gudong Gajah, Pantosan people, Taipan, Tapean, he's, he mottet

just like to lookisan Cichin back, and Tren, D'A, D'inping. He's pahean.

He's pahean. Yeah, I, I know like that big of I'm hajured too, I'm cause of the lukisan I'm about how many

miliard. So, but I think so I think so I thinker yeah I'm not like to

write a book that that's that's or batik promotion batik that's

as diplomacy public so so I'm so I'm so I'm name name the bookies

yeah and it's success and still be considered by what

know how the kind of kind of maybe maybe the upcoming from the

woman that will be a kind of kind of if the emeritus emirita

Michiko and Akito I'm I'm really really kind of happy

because really actually why they happy I just I just , I think, when I was

I went to say I'm in Piai, Jaya, Ancel, it was a company National National Lipi, do. I'm, I'm going to take a problem what the

environment, what, the world. Now, I see that, actually, actually, Aki, it, not only Kaisar that, when the war

Dunya, he was like to be talking Jawa, but he was a one in a human woman in the cat I'm getting

like batik I can't I'matic I'm making get into she's been Muccoe also

so much so that so it's so that so that's it's righting minding idea of

the idea Trump that kind of not cruan not cruan this about green land

like and what I'm I think there's there balance China and Japan

where how many, from Asia's like that. Yeah, if we're like Australia and NATO just, I just, I don't even not percaya, how this is the other state solution also, it's not just not just like that. So I think of this, again, and, and, without, we can't even

we have saddened, it's, this jasa Habibi, too, and with Erbakan, that, made, made, all of, and, and I'm, so, I'm, And to learn that, and

it's up to the other and after the problem Lippi's been making, too, with what's the problem with the problem with the

now, now, institute peradaband also we're learning about the problem oncernan nuclear and also

the of the second term from from the Trump that we can't see, because if we're

if we're So, yeah. Yeah. So, it's, we're not, the Commission here we have not, the law,

yeah, we're we're going to go over one Oh, yeah, wee. There's Pesan,

other, about about Pardippo. Mawkshae, want falsafah, k, want democracy, like,

more, Pardaban, Thank you, thank you, and I think I'm sure I'm sorry as a friend in group Guiyub, we're in Indonesia,

one, one, two. And, also, I think this, if you if more more more than, the problem penedican and the

problem of the people, that we, we're, we're, but, but also, again, ancaman

And, the question Kovadis from the war the three and also Kovadis

the problem ancaman nuclear. So if I read the book of the people, about the

woman about the about nuclear is very very very from

from now. And, and the fact not not up the other

nuclear Tentunuching, is, the encampment bancana alam. Beakarance Houtan, mawapu,

also, tsunami, that's all. It's all over uncurkan and there. And there's that it,

the peradaband also, because because I think, I'm, the corbans tsunami,

because I saw with with the night, the night, the other bachurance that,

it's same as the bomb atom, that. So, That's I'm going to lookish also about the people who who are people who are

survived, who got also, the Nobel for the demesion of the world in Japan. I lookish he also and with a bagu batik and with the

what name, Japan, he said losing is winning. So he's making, he's losing Japan, then he throws for demes and anti-nuclear. And I also think

in the in the last in the I think what I'm making what I make a making,

I'm making, I'm making, and I'm also, I'm going to make sure, that's about

that we concerned, we're in about, in the problem that's that's

that's that's , that's, I think that that's, thank you, thank you,

thank you, same, time, thank you, so, Teman, that's Lippo Alam as well as

as well as the Institute of Peradaband Indonesia. Thank you. This is NG.