Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Dwiki Dharmawan : “Dengan Musik, Dunia Penuh Cinta dan Kedamaian”

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

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I'm russas, in, Gouru, I'm gonna. You know, you know, interpretations, Baca what you're getting to be.

Sometimes I'm with Rewutami, that. Because I'm knew he and nighi that not only can be made by instrument. You think I

Trompet So, so you're So, so much I'm going to be ableacar yeah, you're going to. And so... I'm not really,

and I'm at least and can't be back on the last how it's, it's just to be jurumus or menjurumus or menjurumusk

in the world music. It's, many people don't know if music that's first I've learned

is music traditional, Gamelan. Tepatna, Gammal, Degung. So, the room

Kedamanke'i Klanuarlah K'an, there's in the back Kokar that's called

the conservatory Karawitan yeah. Belakangan now now isbi Institute of

Indian Indonesia, Bandung. There tembok. This room complex

we're we're bandel. I'm with people in Bollonging that. Bollongin

Blocutut, then they're put up triplak. Then if there's been there buny gamlan,

there we've got to tarry, we're moncour to get back to be five and be seven then we're then we're

not on ton ton just. So, we're, until we're, until we're to know with the

students and those and the end the end and it's, and malha

actually like, like so, like, just as the person course

there, yeah, the yeah, d'ajuring with the children,

my students, I mean I'm going to Gamelan, Bonang, Saran. So, justro, nanda, the first time to make to the linga's say, it's slendro, pelok, that. There's also angloonis can, yeah. There, anglung, to, so, betuling, there's a traditional,

there that's a diatonic, there's a lot, and so forth. That, that was five, six years. Sampy, biasak, we're,

we're in sunatan, if you're on, sunatan, sunatan, can beas there's sure there,

there, there cancelangann that, the, I'm, I'm saying, this, you,

this, you're, I'm, ma, ma, I'm, I'm, I'm,

money, the, the money, just, just, , I'm more more.

Oh, can't even piano upright. And I'm less classical piano from the more two years. That's

until umur 13. Senang very, passion and I'm there,

there's latar back on music? Yeah. If I, if I'm, I'm, hobby

to be in the time remazana even even even

even even even even even even the lumb

Bintang radio RRI RRI and TV RI that R R R R R D and Tavavis

2008 until almost 70-han and yeah I've been year

Rapa never one one but but the Kakaa

Bandun because because hobby So, to bettoolan myke I had took to study

four years in America and the U.S. Sering berkirming Pilingen for Ibu. Because Ibu

my son-sulung and I'm a talk, music, and kake my kak my, she'd be given.

And I'm I was just ring , make make sure I'm using the

music that in the piningan hitam that's especially jazz that I'm

putter in so my same not get music but the

art that I have jazz in the jazz at that is

music the music kiel so. So, so. Frank Sinatra,

Connie Francis, and and, and, that's the same thing. Before I've learned Gamelin, it's, well, yeah. Sorry, if Ayah,

ah, ah, that, um, just, false, he. Almarum,

that, ASN, ASN, and dosen who, who's-teb very, who,

who, who's work, and jam secian and time to be and sure

and you can't not be music, not can't play music be balanced with my

my my and yeah she was pro-crontra also by the

mother and her but the but I'm to I'm to say

very to get-gott so so when I did piano

that then I then And then, then I can havealin lago

lago that I'm sure you can this, if you can't you, I can't, yeah, I'm just,

I'm, just, the story, when the time, it's just sometimes, it's like

improvisation, can, I'm, just, repertoire classic that, I've got great-n-n-

to, like, playing Bach, like, playing Chopang, that's, I'm rebuttasian,

guru my russasic, or guru pianoclassic, can, you know, you know, interpretatisical,

bach what you don't, get to, I'm, I'm doing, more, that. Who,

the, aliran, the first , the first , um, to make the,

so, the, so, so, so, so, so, one,

from, from, from, the, the, bling- -it- -

that, maybe my kake's my my own yeah, why it. But there Artatum, yeah,

pianist, that's there's there Rai Charles also who are singing pianist,

and there Glenn Miller Orchestra. Wow, Glenn Miller orchestra, that, asic-

-g-a- I'm much doneering improvisation saxophon and trumpet that. That,

And then, then you have to be able to learn jazz, oh, jazz, yeah? Now, he, he gave you

try, there, there, there, there, there, so, I remember

I, I was, I was, I was, I, seven, seven, one radio

Mara, he, radio that, radio, who will put on

jazz, in, in, in, every, there, jazz yeah,

About, and time about. Two KLCBSBS. KLCBS, before, there, there's in the

80-hand, but I'm going to be able to founder's still as a if you, if you're going to

work just more, what, what, the name, it, come just,

on, so, so, so, the operator's that I'm the, I'm,

kielikin. Luck, when, when, when, school, it, I know,

bemo, yeah. I'm going to go to do you know to get a school. What I'm

asking, I'm asking people, people, people, kind of special because

there's a day that get-jamput, you know, but, but the car, because,

the car, because of the car, because, no, don't, don't be the jemput,

I'm just, I'm- If you were It was called Honda But although if you're

not Honda Namaken Rheemo Smoenka Honda It's been Mondeau Mondeau BMO d'emoe

D'u D'u Roda 3 ROTA 3 So if if you're MASSU Ayo,

go geter again, gotta be puttee Dissue Gesser again because it has been

Sopye so I'm GASI I'm coffee, the money rock, like, for the operator

radio, I'm irid. Sometimes I'm with my friends people, she's on the time school, the way,

so, I'm getting $2,000, which should not, $1,000, two-kaly to.

It's quite if it given to operator in radio, he's seneng. This,

um, so I'm, so, so, I brought caset Cosette Cosette Cosso, I've got Kasset Cosm, I've got

Cicoria, I'm saying. I'm going to Cic Korea. It's, where? Cosset's kosonging just. So, that's, I'm going to transfer. So, transferred to school,

to transfer to radio. Now, I mean, I'm going to work jazz, too, many very. And, I mean, why, this must be charing

gurunia, now, there was in Bandung, it was, pianist jazz that's young very much,

people, and it was, Peren, was that, Elfaceshurya, name it. Legenda. Genus.

Almarhum, now. Yeah. Dibawallah, I'm gonna me, to Abang, not,

the, they, and, that, Ibu's I don't know. I'm not because I'm there.

I'm in- remember. Rummah Rune-A-Che Nomer 100-1. Yeah. Oh, me'll-less,

yeah? Waddu, I'm sure, I'm, I'm sure, I'm sure, but, but,

but I'm, he's, a orchestra ramah, there's like, orchestra Kar-Kirana Bulak-Balik

to Jakarta Melulu. But, there, when, you know, come, you may,

try, Pertour classic that I'm playing, main, mine in. Okay, classic, it's like,

you're able to findering, yeah. Now, who's not classic, that's, oh,

mindl, I, the Beatles, here, there and everywhere. Here, and everywhere, Michelle, so I'm,

the Beatles that's like, the Beatles, that's like, well, learn how, this? Bealjerned

, with my my name, this, the day, this, this, this,

this, he's been happy very, I'm happy really, I'm gonna be able to

allhmulil, that's the time 80, 18, 18, 19, 18,

18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18,

13, 18, 14, 14, yeah, and 18, two, I guess

my, and, and, And, Disit Elva has been

the second keyboardis yeah. And so like, to where Bawki, that's

the first keyboardist first keyboardist the first Yeah, but but sometimes she's

playing vibed phone, right. And at that time that that time

it, she's, he's, he's, he may work in orchestra Hikirana,

I'm I'm going to bolos just I'm back. Wow. At the time he had

been single I'm going to music, he's bebellain by the guru he'd minding

this this is there's recamand on the TV RI this. I'm

I'men the carang on car hiangan and in there

I'm there I'm she's she's he's orchestration so I'll

see how I'm so I'm not sadder to be doing by doing yeah sometimes I'm

saying this is what, this is amazing grand rancent there

at a time when it time that uh quen very

great great bang this this this this kind of

kind of can be so can be so genius yeah ajaib

and and he It's known, more jago if if it's never mepet that. Masa. Sampy Jakarta

that, 10 lago, to be record that, it's, it, but it, it's,

it's, 10-st-a-jank, it's, 10-st-a-jamb, 10-st-a-ch-a- only 3-th-tank-jamb. Maw-Mas. Pah-Rank,

the, that, that, and, now, in-sit-s, I, So, many

, but he's playing with him in Elvas Big Ben. Keponakhani to Yovi Widianto. Wow,

so, we're doing. We're doing. We're doing. He's better a year. Yeah, he, more than

year, Yofi. Now, step the next the time, the pepett, he said,

Wiki, Bantu' Abang, don't just to mending d'u. Oh, I'm,

I'm kidding, I'm Bantu what? Tullis. Arsumman. Orkestration. Yeah. Waddo.

Okay, de. I'm okay, but a hell d'clock. This is. This is what? 15. Mashawal. 15. Wow.

Terrible. Belio. 22. 22. 22, 23. That, she, she'll be more much more than.

Yeah, right. Amour 12 and um. Yeah. Because, But, this, not to be brough, now,

if a couple days, he was still, when I was, I'd give time before from the car, yeah,

so, so many days before before to Jakarta. It's not day, I'm a person who's not

orchestration. I mean, I mean, I'm going to write, orchestration. This, this,

bang, there, no, I'm, there, I'm still, I think, yeah, with pencil,

the music, Not Balog. Not Balog. Yeah, perics. Yeah, at us, I'm. Wow, I'm curious. I'm sorry, no. Oh, senium, sinu.

Yeah, all, then. Look, look, just, look at it. Yeah, it's just, look at it. Pratt. That, that's recamment music dasarer of basic music, if the term section, okay.

Past string section, yeah, salamat, like. Pass brass section. Pratt, breath, wow, the noise not caroo-caroan. Rupon. I'm not sure.

I was not used, transpos, transpos. Because, right, uh, brass section, too, can,

trumpet in B-flat, you know? Tenor in E-flat. Uh, horn in F, yeah, right? Then, clarinet,

in B-flat. Woodwin, and Brass-Section, too, caccio, Abang, you know, but he

not get a manhina but it's it, that you, that you, that you, you,

that you, you, that's, plus, for the opportunity. Harmony our,

it's but, but the way, you that's that's that's

that you, try to say the C concert first, so, so,

so, there, there, there, there, there, not there there,

the, the transfer by, you know, they're called, there's a Padayat. Padayat is a copywriter.

He can help you. He can't come back. You know, see a concert. Okay, I'll do listen.

He's got to copy with him and he's try. Wow, kare. Betulant I used

a band that's name Tower of Power. So, so I remember that I'm arrangement to,

by Almarnoom Om Deli Rolis Laguongue Grewf really scorpion Yeah Cinta Scorpion

or what I'm I'm saying Alha Alha power of power We're kind but but tutte but

but but but this string section don't be sure to make Gajibuta

don't Maas you Nauting yeah panang to 16 bar

what This is. Yeah, Bang, Belum Bist string to, how much? Dinkering,

Lalo Schifrin, Nenum, Aurekone, what, film scoring composer also, Leonard Bernstein, and, hearin'

I'm just, cassette. Yeah, right? Then, I also, to radio again, transfer again.

And, the end, the end up, the same, it's been being called Kren, string section

not long-not 32-bar So, that's the process of learning, and main, and so, the first time, that's from Elva Socioria. I acuturia, I acucusa,

who's very genius. Maybe I'm not got 20% of it from it, but I'm not, but I'm not. Thank you. And, And I'm always Elva

There's a lot of my Because I'm going to say Salat because that guru I'm sure I'm giving a plan that's

I'm actually more in the lesson that, in practice that because he ever, when I'm

working he because if he playing vibraphone I play keyboard's Roads under Roads Vander Roads

and we made regular in Savoy, Homan Hotel We've ever, no, there's jazz corner

in the year, in the two-old and. If we we're in subpoe

Hohmann, there's we're in there, we're playing. Comment that's the first,

the time I was the first time I turned to be a happy. You're not happy. You know,

you're playing karamian abang so being playing. That's one of the story

with him That's a surer. That's a bit of... Panyakit, utama amatir, too. Ballyakit Amatir, yeah.

What's just d'amane in, can. Maybe because Gugub, yeah. Because, it's been playing

with leganda, because we got to beckxed pengue to make out that. Yeah, so, so,

yeah, so, but, without structure, but, but, but, but,

so, sootunner, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, I mean, I mean, I'm I'm doing pianists, pianists Brazilian music, turned out of

if they're saderana, yeah, if they're more, it's the guitar acoustic that's been harmonia. Yeah, he's not too rhythmist,

that. Yeah, but, if, if, if, if, when, when, when,

when, music, to be it's not even though on Spotify, there's YouTube, and so many of it. Yeah, if you were

to be able to try to radio radio the next. That's right. That's, that's, the plan to make an aransman,

to make, to make, to know- which, you know, that you want to, not too,

not too, give a time by Elva to make-composisi. So I just so I'm I'm not sure I'm going to

by Lava I think playing music it's all about just to be playing music that's all about it's being

there's there's there's there new new music arranger that orchestrator if

if you're when it's music producer yeah that's two two-due that's tempting really yeah

that two-due very, very, make gyrhackan, too, yeah. Termasuk, the ability to be able in band,

how the arrangement that's simple maybe, for the men, team, so, if we, if we're,

if we can't analyze it first what you want to be made, some of, it's a bit. It's a lot of functioning

also, so, so, it's, not with we verbal, Like music, masa, Dibling in verbal,

Kortna, like this, like this, and this. It's just just like we. It's just in the

time in the time. If you're making band Krakatal or the time my life

other than music I, I've been music. It's what, yeah,

very, very much, it's when we're making up minimum or the maximum, and,

the maximum. Tentunner, the big band or orchestra that's maximum because we're not we're talking. But if in band,

we're in, we're in fact that. I've got used, but this is open, though, we're going to. We can't be supernaken.

If in Krakato, the way, so we're not ever rearrangement that's backu from the room. Because we need

energy and respond the men, band, to respond, then comment, then gives a suran. And that's the decision the end up.

For the music, serenia, if the band, but what's the need, we can read, I can't tell us. I think,

I think, I'm going to because, yeah, it's, mampacepat and mempermudh. You,

now, if, if, know, the, the, the, know,

as music, that's more prefer as arranger, orchestrator, producer, or composer? Still,

more, more than composer. Yeah. And composer. Yeah. Yeah. Evener.

Back. For, um, four album the last I'm with Munjun Records, yeah,

That's album So Far So Close, album Pasar Pleuer, Rumabat, Batu, and Har Ketka, that I'm saying, that I'm saying, Kalehasaed, Leonardo Pavkovich. He who produced. I'm composed and,

and man, and arance of men. But, producer, menutuking the decision musical, music producer, menutuked the decision,

and ternetrault. And, it's asic really, collaboration like it, so there being a big

not objective our, that we want to be point of view the producer that, it's, it's,

so, make music, it's, so, so, so, so, so,

maybe, maybe, so, maybe, Bicaco, yeah. But, but, but the

the end of record this is I'm just to that's it.

Yeah, I'm like, transition from Elvas to Karatau. How?

Yeah, this, because, because festival, actually. Yeah. Okay.

Wight that, Yamaha mhmhm came about the four

the story. Oh, the name light music festival peninsu

deshuishan Jawa Barat in Bandung in 800 which may go to final

in 185 in Jakarta which may be to get back in Japan wow menaric

this now that that well that other other

I'm I'm time time new gym session that routine

especially in in Bumisang Kuriang, in Bandung, there's a chance of course. Namannibalidharma and Kang Donisuhendra. Wow. That's two senior

I, Marloni Suhendra. Prabhu diDharma is a massisua fine arts from Seattle who's music, so, she's all over there,

the schoolhack because, the, the, uni, but, but, the,

I was just a musician, and he even became professional musicians in there, playing bass. I just got to, in Bandung. Deklalin a friend, and to know it with me and finally we're seeing gumpul,

and, but there's drummer. Wow, festival, band. We have to have a drummer, yeah. Kang Doni Suhendra, who's a suran. how, Budi Harjono,

I have never known, that's a player, but, oh, rock, but, wow, asic, yeah, wow, jazz rock, and it's jess-rock, and it's just-wrote, I said, I said,

I'm going, I'm going, I'm just-wrote, I like, yeah, jazz-rock, that. Finally, we pick-up, he, and he, and he's, and we'll get,

that, every day, I was going to go to 8-jamb, from the time. From back, from school, from 2, from home at 1, 12-mallem. Finally, we're going to visit. Menang. In J.A.B.

So, do you know, to be a kid. To, wow, latian again. That, I was in class 2-Sema, that. We're at class 2-Sema. And, I mean, in Jakarta and he'd

give to Japan. In Japan, I'd be the best keyboard player al-hmulah, that, in the umur 18,

that, got a handiah at X-7, Yamaha. When, in Jakarta, got a adia,

D-X-9. So, so, it's two, right, right, right, right,

the X-7, that's the popular, the 80-a- and, and, and, Like, Mimpy,

imagine, that keyboard idamon every one-main keyboard, I'd have two-douin' Hadia. Bawah. Bawahd-X-7, at the X-7, we're taking.

That's it, Fender Roots, too. Yeah. Yeah, right. Oh, I've got two that, and price, because I've got, because of price,

that's one, KX-5, K-K-5, the remote keyboard. Yeah. Wobto used to use cable

MIDI and there still there's there the time that's the time

and it's not a bad year I'm not even put a keyboard anything

just playing piano on there is more more

and backangang after two years we're with Rucan

yeah also we were Mukti too we we've

we've still before the album because we have we often we use jazz

in TVRI live so, it's a fact that so it's so that's not really having a album, but still

playing in jazz malam-mingu that, so people are people who are being, onchal, onchal,

on-day, J.S. Night, Ancel, the ancho, the non-on-ton-n-n-n-n-luck, we've been put-lid-hits,

because the unsoddut-an-n-n-tut-an- us-ada-nion-y, we, we'd have Rutsah and Harimukti. So, one, Jay-S, one, the one-nob, that's got rock,

that. That, we're going to do time, after after after, Indra-Lasmanah and Gilang-Ramand-N, beg-gabung, signed-contract,

we're-rec-man with billboard, and, and it's-nany. Pocon-N-Nus-Mont-Mptu-Mars in Indonesia, to the industry in the

industry of recamman in Indonesia there's no one label can't instrumental but two

just a which are the apann has vocal I'm this one this is the wudutut

Karakotau and it Indra Gilang was been in the album first

and I'm I'm I'm trying Akal T Ruczanaa Ruczanaa

when we did He, he, he's done contract to, with, this,

Aquarius so, yeah, the album Astaga. Wow, Ute did chulik,

lo, yeah. I mean, Mas Iman do you, uh, uh, E-N-R

director-na. Uh, man, we're doing, we're coming, uh, uh, can,

U-T, but I'm there's not there's, we're not, yet, still, the time

back, yeah, so Joko, Pa, uh, mentor, yeah, mentor,

in the world Mr. Iman and Pa, O'O, there for I'm a mentor too, in the industry that. And then

my friend my name musica. So, I had been who got about when I'm

Gamelan, I've got to do bina musica, and I'm musica, who's shan Luntungan,

Erwin Gutah, in Bandung, I, I, I'm Pankur Wachara, ka, I, I'm still

Pianica, too, man. The, the, the, I'm not, the first,

the, I.S.D. I mean, I. Come, I cut Karatow, yeah? We're going to record. Hayu. When he was hao-you-a-you-a-you-a-a-a-a-ha-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cac. I've been done it.

Niosok, you know. Yeah, it's just. So, it's really. So, it's really a-oh-buck-a-pub-a-lop-public. And there's a career my life, I'm not. There's a career my name. When that, was still, MASSISWI-KJ. Indra said,

Duvig, it's, praeca, to lose lyric. That's one of one, caste just, Mira, I'ma, I'm doing d'Rick. Oh, yeah,

I'll give meera, two lago. The one jadee, which is it, which is the music, Duhahis, to be there. Wow.

That's from Mira. That's the story awalna. So, Krakato, then, then, Jalan, Tour,

several album, yeah. Telling, de, existensy, or co-existency you're with Indra. Two people keyboard that's shot. Bissuehers, it's about,

that's how to to make combinacifying two ideology, two alirons, two type of play in one binkusan. Wow,

to say, when I was, I'm not about, what's what I'm gonna bandung, playing keyboard, nebend,

yeah, even when learn by Alva, dibanding a person Indra Lismana who's

from from from from from little to music and have been released

in America America America and in Australia so. So, kids

think that. Children Fantasies about Earth and Heaven. For Earth and Heaven. For Earth and Heaven

D.L.A. And I didn't really really about it. Albuming that, I'd I'm doing really, so I'm going to get,

like, caget and and I'm going to. Yeah, for me, yeah, and, I'm going to be doing a good when we're

automatically, can be a lot of yeah. Yeah, and, what I'm and, what name,

genius, very, in music, especially in hall open harmony, and, improvisation,

and and the other, where I'm not been with a time. We can

be able to because of the keyboard that how much, yeah. Sometimes there some, there's,

there's the music, we're we're just because, the piano, yeah. Then,

I'm more more, pop, little, yeah, what, I'm, yeah,

I'm, yeah, yeah, Thenowna, we're both, then we're doing technology. At that time, I guess, I'mas'a-emassan technology be coming, midi, oh, midi, that,

that's been over there. There were, that, 80-an. 80-an. 83, yeah, that, 8-4. And, and, for meurot, evolution synthesizer, it, be-kembang,

so, more than, more than, more, that, that, in 80-an, yeah. Yamaha just we'll look

from from DX7 then we're still before to montage there's motive yeah right

in the Rolin there there there RD butulan I'm endorse with one one of one

one of one but because we we're both we're both technology we we're back we're back

we're playing function in that's and this also that is a thank you

thank you to God God, God God, I'm God, I'm there

people people who people where they collaboration but there's but in

the there's also we can be much learn there from

Prabudid Dharma Donisue Hendra Budi Harjono and Ilang Ramadan

Triutami as a partyutami's sometimes I'm trying with triutami that because I

know she knew he and nother not can be being made by instrument ha ha ha ha

you think I trompet so so so so many be learned

in there so try think in range if but they're kind of naked

he can't he can't yeah he can't With, Sama Indra, did did do-jad, did doodd

not-not that's just when you and he's being used to make sure. It's amazing too,

the music that. There's not two. There's a bit. But, but, but,

but, but, and also, technique recording that we like we're doing, tetep

to make-cue to live recording. So, Karakato, it, almost didn't

never we system the number overdubs, so. So, basically, we're live

recording, after that, one, two, three, two, three sound, and overdub,

so, I'm going to string, or triutami backing, focus, but, but basic

that we're doing release it, live record. Raw. Raw. The raw is,

the raw, the raw, too, to play in caliber It's the most lucidia, if we're if we're,

take 1, tick 2, that's, that's, take 1. Pat-all, there's take 2 too,

yeah. Because, while upon tag, two, there are many more than, more than,

but soul's the soul's, it's always d'clock one, to, more than, than, take 2

or 3. Yeah. I don't know if I'm I'm going to be small more than in a lot of in a lot of like this is

around the two times or three times it there's not umsure that new umsure that this is

now this is going to back to point that's that's structural on the jazz I too I do you

use using using using using using life every day because it is a

makesa I'm going to make sure so improvisation or improvisation out of corridor

yeah yeah yeah you know you're classic from from 12 yeah showpang

like Bach like Mozart Beethoven Chikosky that corridor it's like like

buter you're like you're like Melmeler like making experimentation

out from corridor. And that's the to be able to make an experimentation. It's melebarking wawasan. Benar-Ban. I'm going to. I'm curious, I'm going.

As far as far as far as, just, with the life, day, improvisation. Yeah, so, there's a improvisation in jazz.

The freedom of music is jazz, where it's every musicians there improvisation

right improvisation that I'm inrovisation it's thing that's real-art-bri-

-bri-reli- and per-e technique yeah meaning fingering has good

skill if we improvisation can be can be purbub

music that or can be but it's more making great music

that. But, actually, in music, it's bad the bad burrup-na, not there

is not that's not, or not did-dner-n- it-in-n- -n-er-n- -n-n-er-

-s-n-er- -s-l-a- what-l-l-l- -git-a, because when-cob- out-out- zone

that's non-is- improvisation it's interpretatis from the we're put from the

we're puttokan from the we're we're now that's there's I think

that's one of must be chaly and and the means in philosophy

we're we have we have we're and and nali too to

continue explore if you if if they're people want naman still,

you know, don't make what, but you know, it's just that's

like, in the life in the life always always sometimes

get back the problem that because idea idea I

want to explore this, I'm like in the case,

in the can't not how how how How do you know,

it's quite sponsor, so that concert it's been around, how much the people who do you, it's very that's fair

that's as I as by composer and artist's, it's, well, too, for that, and

I have say hello, now, this is here, there, there, there, improvisation and

Silaturahmi. Penting the Silaturahmi in life, 50% of from ticket I, I think, will be sold by Silaturhami our people.

I'm just, I'm just, I'm going to be Patita, miso, I'm, from all baguaguer, there who's

who'll be ticket one, there's a, there's got to we're doing. Oh, I'm trying, I'm,

if, for music, the news market like that, not only promotor or or I.O. It's just to be a good. But, we're only

must maximal can silaturamie our people that there still this. And silaturamie it has to be jagged. Don't we're slaturamie with anyone.

Hany if we'relutelyn't. That philosophy I,a, and, yes, yes, and, ajarin Bapa Ibu say, Shalaturhami, the

family, and people, people, from you, from you from now. Like, reuni,

I'm, I'm, really, yeah, so, because it's like step back, back,

back, back, but I'm, but I'm , but, I'm, oh,

it's, people, that, people who, it's, there, this, it's,

it's not that's many people, manned too, in the real of the reunion,

I'm, just who used to the last before didn't know been able to be able

there, there, letnan, general TNI, you can do you can be the

badel really, yeah. You, cutah just, there. There's,

there, there, people, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma,

ma' math, math, math, math, but, he's So, it's a business success.

Emonged, it's funny, yeah? And in the story, and that he can't do you make an improvisation. Yeah. That, because he can doverick. So, if, if, if, the music,

it's the most I'm the most I'm going to, improvisation, that. Narrick. Misalya. I, uh, putri Ariani, telephone,

um, uh, uh, putri, with um wiki in YouTube Putri Spontan,

spontaneous just on just on I'm sure I'm looking now I'm there's

okay I can Over the rainbow We're We're over the rainbow We're We're Yeah

I try I'm trying Yeah Oh I I'm like It's okay so I'm Notatian

Dool And it's One take And right And once So that And I'm over I'm

There There, cut, take ulang, that's viral, really. Yeah. And that, uh, that's, spontaneous,

out of someone has improvisation. Yeah. If I, I think I, I, too, I think about, I'm saying,

that people, or institution, or, or, or, bank, or paraband can, if there,

if there, if there a cuterbucka yeah getterbucka to can improvisation yeah

right yeah right yeah yeah it's to make combinacization

and the quat innovation and the preservation preservation it

is the ajaran we mean back Mozart Hayden

Chekoski but but the quotan innovas it is the

cuterbucked that's that to make an experimentation Ibarred kata

if we're saying if we're used to we're doing the key B but

to presset that the Petset B-flat so so yeah

augmented 5 right yeah it's yeah it's it's

not too because there's because there's To do you do not do you can't be puttanked

in context Right Manusia organization, institution communities, community, and country,

and paraband. Right, this, this is I always canjurin you, you, if you

can't give in the pergaking caterbukkaan, that's, or experimentation, or experimentation. That's right

The improvvvado that's that's that's really that's not a lot of to get rid of something to move to make

something that's improvisation that's right. Now, one other that was when I'm

Elva playing it too much this. This is there, there, there,

there, I, I, I'm, I'm, she herbie Hancock when the

first time he was with Miles Davis, guug-gub, he, maybe. Ranking guugue,

you, the way to lepot, to belepotting to be about, but he's because of

mouse Davis is you don't too much much play nota or note

mentega. You play the butter notes. Don't play the butter notes. He's not get what,

what, what, what this the message can. He, he, he,

he, to be a other if you're if you're not sure John Coltrane or who

this is so if you give us it's not metaphor is you if you if you're

if you sometimes kind of yeah yeah yeah yeah this is this

yeah yeah yeah yeah that point point I is

in life in life is more less is more yeah so yeah

so but But, but, when we, if in music, it's just because it's because of guugup

also, yeah. Now, guug up it, after it, it's, with experience, yeah, with the

experience, yeah, with the example, Elva, then, and I, gave reference

again, some of the one, one of, Bill Evans. Yep. Okay, this,

yeah, that's the thing, yeah, It's very efficient and very effective if he's if he's

if he's not not piano didn't never be able to yeah in there I'm

there's I'm less is more is more yeah and that paradoxal

but paradox it's very it's very kind of too

so far a herbie just who playing hebat can be got to

by I'm also bad. It's, it's, it's a person. Yes. A person

president also, I think, there's nervous yeah. And nervous it is important,

to control emotion our to, on the pressure, if we're lost control we're,

we're, bables, you know. I'm sorry, if, if, if, if, if, if,

if, I'll get to meet, yeah, the last, in the Habibi Library. Yep. I was before mine, too, Ambassador Umarhadi

and I'm trying to. Tibertibba, I'm lest, that. There, Pagita Wiriwian. Oh, there's been,

just, not, not. There's been there's over there. There, Ilham, Habibi,

there, Ambassad, Ambasator, Amasador. It, but I'm had been. There's,

there's, Man. Yeah. It's, it's almost 40 years of music. Emang nervous it's always

there. Look, look, there's, many talko, this, right, mules.

But I'm just do you're doing under your Moodoo. But, while want to be not much

but I'm but I can't, I'm sorry, I'm going to. We're going. We're not. We're

we're playing in Java JAS yeah. How much yeah? It's music, can music,

right, music, right, yeah, be able to be acuntan, then, boss,

the business multinational, international, then to bureaucracy, to the government too,

can, be, it's, can, but, that, how, that,

it's, so I'm I'm not very, bingung, because skill is it's a lot of it, how tips can be able to? Improvisation. Interbukha. I, too, if you're talking about

a high-syswa, I always want to show you can't an open to experiment with concept or idea that new. HALNEDAXIA, we

can't combine it. Preservation, or the quatation with the of the quatant innovation. Innovations is as

as a kuntan, as music, as whatever, yeah, it's important, I think, when I think, young,

to know, to be wawasance more. That's, yeah? Yeah. If I'm, maybe,

me, three. Music, business, or the government, music. Asly,

music. The, most, yeah? Asi, Oh, sir. Now, I'm going to be made as a docent. As a guru,

because I'm more than I'merous to make, what, yeah? In-law, yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah, so,

but, this, I'm petting d'Immet-in-diree to clueling campus, to share- -laping-l-l-laping and-laping

and public policy that, yeah? Yeah, that's that, that's-n- I always like living in campus, campus, in Indonesia. Oh, at the world? In Stanford, yeah. At least.

Wow, luarbiasa. Now, that's scholar also, so, so, is an academici. It's, this, this, this, and this, the can't, you know,

the can't be the music that, yeah, can't, if I know, many of the ministry, many people,

but, the compoan in music, it's hobby, like, oh, this professional too,

not that's not a consangpean Dullo, yeah, penguend it to I'm going to ban every day noncronging

when I'm going to when I'men in nightclub, in cafe, in restaurants. When you're at school at Berkeley, yeah?

I, when I was in Harvard I'm able S2, I'm going to class malem at Berkeley. Wow,

and that in Harvard it's more semacting because I'm going to work. That'sly, that if there

PR with a guru at Berkeley, I'm more, more this, than I'm gigi-dict in-gig-d-d-d from-your-old,

because, I'm-mend, my life my from, so, so, so, that's when I'm

at last-m-a- at-m-a-l-a-l-l-a-l-l-a-l-v-v-a-v- -gall-d, that's-gall-h-h-h-a-ccccccuit-old, to-ccccuit-a-cuh-old, But I'm going to be a subway. Yeah, the two, three-cali-a-smingu, then to Boston Commons,

from there, it's, it, to, you know, to campus. If there's a bellowing, it, yeah, it's. Dabila-bela-in. Dibla-bela-in. Now, Taddy, we've got to mongue,

and then, al-hmm, success in the acara, the day, on the day, 23 August. That, that, if that's, I think I'm notherstation from perjalan

the life you're that's making silaturahim with many many musicians musicians, yeah, can Indra,

and musis musicians, musis, and musis, and music, many, this, I'm going to katek

this with diplomacy. You know, do, gigi, you're doing silaturahemi, but that,

if it's, if, if it's, it's, with diplomacy. How much you know how you

make you make sure and how you're doing and how you make make down product product music and

product music and product and product of the important to beplomacy with community international. You know

in Europe in America, in America Latin and and everything that's, it's, makinggate

now, it's like gongangangang yeah. Marangue this. So, this,

can't make sure can't bring up borderless, I have been in many music for a lotar black,

crass, even there Will Pistrio that one one of musicians Kamalmusalam is Palestinian

Christiani Christian Palestinian who were who made clarinet and alto saxophon soprano, it's a

jahudi, the life of Israel, who had been comebatan, then inshaf, he'd be music, and pindach the world of the

nation-scientship and I, from the Islam, Muslim, from Indonesia, that, Pulpistio. World Peace Trio.

P. In the basis, yeah, it's not actually music can endamexed this.

But, probably not, it's spirit, soul, and vibes for the world that

the way. All the can be about we can't be a environment. How much

we all are to be able to make the world for the child, our children,

we're not for it. This is also the problem. Selain perang, yeah,

mas we have other than people, it's like that's not just for just a lot of just,

wutton, the ecosystem should not be able to be able to and, and, and,

and, and, there, there, there's a manusia that's very

that's menonjol is a car so, so, not, I don't want

ber bagy. That is the that's the most of the problem about. Back again to diplomacy yeah.

Diplomassie if I analogican is people to people contact that's very ample so. I'm playing in

Athena, in Yunani where it's lucu because this summer Orang Atena Lago Khaber

out of the day because he's boston because he's boston with hot as summer. Tourists

to come to Atena more than than the people people who so the

the second Hellenic International Jazz Festival at Petras Teat

is audience from people who's people that's being

tourists to athena. So, That's that's to people to people contact, where I, as a person Indonesia, mbough soul Indonesia,

be playing with musicians a set-per. So, I, too, the last 10 years, that, collaboration just. I only have made people kendang. I'm piano and

the Perman Kendang. Who? Permanent? I'm. I have Kang Adirudiana, has a cuchu Kurnia, have Endang Ramdan, and there De Deianto, which is

the other than the Deianto. Succa, I used to getian, I brought. Drummer, upright bass, tube, from there. Kada Anang,

the other than, she's also. Kadaan, I could, to sing. And flavor Indonesia, I'm,

I'm posisiced to, and to be able did tampilcable. Now, the plazeran artisanen that

made mewaping, if I'm if you're, if you're, if you're, if I'm going to be brought in jazz festival,

arancemia is like what, yeah? That process, yeah. So, now, I'm always

really, I'm not only tampilance at the time it is a result or not be a result. When I'm

not quite before I'm before I'm email. This is charting I'm just two,

six people from Atena. It's very much I'm not I'm not we're making mass

we're so here we'resel to make up to make so much the next

the concert just just got to only get only it's real rehearsal so that

process process that's always make decked deced can wherever I'm

alhamulah I've been onpil in about 80 national 40

festival and that and it so actually after the era

Karakato not kind of kind of became ethnic and then

I'm not with the career of my own which are traditions of New Santara. I, this is here be sure.

Lachir and and bestar in Indonesia, a country that I've got had been an idea for the

social-harian in music. If not the career I can't rearrangement many folk song

or lague tradition Indonesia for the arrantement and didampil can with friends musicians

multinational. So, finally I think agent, agent I did Europe, said, Wiki, if

in Europe, music, you just, it's just to be where it's not, man, can,

if all, because it's not, sosah, agent my American said, that this

some musicians so they're in contact to be most of Australia so we're in-courtly so we're so much and diplomacy that's-asic

that really bener-been people-to-people contact in a festival that's a lot of people-ton-y-beenacted that's very effective

very, if you're in solo concert that the audience on the people who people who

even if that we can't we can't on the channel YouTube we're on

here, even in school at school in dissembark but the

the way the important is borderless in where the power

message through music that that's very quite. Why,

why, when Pagitamans support I, would, um, I'm doing, album,

I'm called World Peace Orchestra. I'm imagine with music that the, the world will always

full of love and kettamayan. So, the title album

I just just, I've said, that, that, and, And this

there's a little bit between diplomacy with promosy. Mm. Mm. Mm.

Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Whenary. Ketik. Uh, pariwisata

Indonesia in the world. Yeah. I can combine if if I'm betulal facility concert

that there LID that, I can We can't ask that visualizer

it's not being content content that we're from Indonesia, you know.

Promotion that, but not can effective if we if we we're

in here the parwisatain forwisat for infrastructure Structurion, it's

susa transportations, but Indonesia is there. But Indonesia is dead, to beaqqqq to Bali, can, that's true. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., yeah, I'm sure. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., yeah, But, but, but,

but I'm Dilematis, in myruths I, tourism that many also that's people who

reshousal in Bali. We're in Bali, villa, villa, had come subac it

is, a little buda, part of Padi, one-touan-tahue and people,

berabat abat, it's, it's almost it's quite it, it's quite suback, some swah

allahannes without fila, not, not alami like, like, before. A sub-

destination parisata, how, that's mackack that's bongue mongue, mongue monguegum,

mowgna, or mow-a-lach-gmany. So, many things We've been integrated and that's the way of it's that's a lot I'm being to

GILA too back in Bali and in Bali and so sampah parisata to not be well even

that's it's really with technology with technology can't be made to behine as a badar or anything

now if for usata that that I'm at so that I'mat So, so, sometimes, if we're like

to promote it, think, you know, t'ar-in-in-in-in-promosy-tac, then, mub-luck, more than, ruby-up,

in the country, I'm not, sometimes, there's like, there's like, there's, but, I'm gonna,

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, so, um, promosic can, so, so, so,

so, so, so, one-and- when, when there, bomb, the,

Boro-Budur, and, in Bali two two years. I remember that two, two years. I know

when that the docene, yeah, sootulner, I've known before you know that back in

back on, D-D-R-Dica, al-marm. Belakhan then, and then, the school high-phir-wisata

in Bali, this, the president, director, the director-n- I-in-n-n- in Bali. Do,

Paddyka, in a Jakarta, he's to be a general, then to be the minister, then,

then, it's again, again, the name the shilaturami. Paddyka, bomb, yeah,

yeah, casions, parisata Bali, yeah, Mas, Diki, I have

been a repripa, but. I can help what with music? I'm going to that.

This is the most that the most that's the that's the land of the United and some of

it's from America States, said he was yeah, I'd do, I'm gonna America

with group Karakato that ethnic but tourn't to be campus campus,

I can't ethnosysicology ethnics, musicology that's there's there can't there

there in various university wow, that, university, yeah. Yeah,

He, he's He's a person who's really, the impact of not long, but the fact, but not quite, but not much.

Aftern't, it's, like, we're giving, like, so, this is, how we're

as a person, a person, and I'm musick, and I'm really, we're also,

we can do this, to do not to help my country that's a game that's,

so, so, the impact the, and the And the offeran it is ambut by Mr. GDRDKE

You, you know, you can, if you can, if you can't, make a lot of and to Canada also. And,

I've been working to get to get quick. For the three month from the slaturama

that, because we sometimes being object penelitian par anatomu psychology

out, then we're kind of contact. Want hosting I'm hosting my university you're not at, you know hosting

I'm hosting my own office and buyer, yeah I can say because I'm going to because I'm from transportation and like that.

So, we're thinking if we're thinking if you're if you're going to be banning the country, we're also

we're also to win-win and so. So, so we're, there's, there's the idea that,

it's, it's, it's a lot we. And, in there, we're to bring that I brought

videographer, and I brought also multimedia that menerang can't about how much the world. The United States, Borough, Budur,

but Indonesia, there's toba, there, this. We're, diplomatic and promotion, So, well, like that. Now, there's a session

workshop. Sessit talk show because it at the campus, yeah. So, I remember start it to

at U.C. University of Washington, D.C. And it's at Vancouver Jazz Festival in Canada.

It, al-hmululah with being that between diplomacy and promosy And from that, I'm

I think that there's a impact there's that there people who people who can't bomb that's a

Indonesia, but at all one-tit- -dibahed. That, that, that, I think,

I think, I think, this, this very great and in there, I'm

just, also have been as much can for the world that

that. I'm too. I mean about about about about about

the people to recruit guru who that's that in

my mind point point you and you know how a

person guru can we can do we can get

music and diplomacy and you're You're all right BORU-its. Namedu Elvas.

Yeah, right? And, before, guru classic. If we're going from Sabang to Mroke, data's too

is just englisak. 88% from the people of town tanga, in all of

Indonesia, that's not put put the non-d- 93% from electorate

that's in di-d- -d- not have a new this. This,

this is a percentage that's a person to put in to turn to get to the time

this this is the capacity to do do you know to make diplomacy, capacity

we're to be the the academia, the world society, the world

politics, the world the government, the world economy, and

allan if you just to just to just to 8, in the Kepalarmat

in the Kepalach 93% who are people who people Koeblos. Yeah, quality of

our people yeah. Yeah, it's, because, because the colam small and

and it's not for we can talk about on on about kersinambungan. Sulted to we're

talking about keypimping back. Sulid for we can't be massan, this can beouston economy but also

shu-sucur buddha if you're good if I'm if I'm if a percent that's a

piece of not dis-siky to be to turn in a drastic maybe our culture

we can erosy and and the and the energy or design or

kind of so-keye like what we're in what we're I'm in I'm in I'm

It's very bad about, that's the culturean, or buddaya, or in a art of it's quite correlations with cognizant

yeah, right, yeah, and, and the idea of can be amplification, to augmentations,

if you if there's bimbingan or education, and it's only can be doing by guru,

who's who's who's how guru that can't imagine imagination how much a person

guru or or people but who but who can't use ambition ambition

and and and good and people if want

success to only three imagination ambis and she

she's imagination and they want so imaginative appp whatever but if

if they If if he's not hockey, he's not going to be rude. He's not going to be mangung in any other than what. It's a quoky-an or hockey, it's, but what's structural, is, the Pemakalan

to beckoning, and imagination. It has been pernui by the peopleimpin in the room, tanga, at school, can'tor,

a place, Ibadah, institution social. Now that if you're not that's not that's that's that's

people who can be ambisies and be imagination and be imagination. Yeah, yeah. Then, if he's solace, he will be hockey,

yeah, but he has been able to ambitionation. How that? Because, this, if, I'm inrush,

because, I'm thought, with the culture, butia that's kind of the curfewation, budaya that with

the important to make abhorhoring guru that can ms, that's come in with peradaband

that's kind of culture and the world and bad it's bad paradaband can't

be bang, can't getto if you know, the kind of the

kind of there has to be manifest in the under the

new new new different how how from from

in the sisy music or or the to we can be repri-buday with

way to them-buday about people recruitment group who quality. Yeah,

I, I, I got school three SKS. You know, there are

product guru that's a person a person I'm a

person I'm guru classic and Elva. Yeah. If not

other alpha, yeah Maybe you're not belajure how you'll write a orchestra 10 bici

while eating nassi-garing in 3. 1⁄ so. So, so. So,

so, the family is a school that school that's the most the

with the kids, yeah, so, so, really, the first is,

can, is people and then in terms of formal yeah guru guru

in school so so um the time when I'm school

yeah SMP system in the system in the we're

we're it one way we we we're we're we're

I'm we're I'm much want to what what

what that's the teacher not too in the idea thinking

for the idea you're what? There a kind of important

that's that's the system in modern in Indonesia

is how how everyone students and the student,

and that can have kind gagasan kind idea

idea idea. So, so, the way can be innovator, innovator.

A lot of our and nother a lot of to be a new one that's now,

I'm, as I'm being a practice, I'm being bringing, and I'm just being

macking Mascisua in one one of one of one of one one

one, I'm when I'm doing, and I'm being being to, then,

then, the thesis you, this is, the thesis you, If, if she's in Pencilaan,

there are two, if there's been there pencitaan, there penculting, if there's if it's there, it's not

there's a baruance, now. From some people students who I'm doing, who's

maybe, who's, that menugue that's the poweruan and gagasance that, in myroof

I'm 20% just, if, from 10, 2, that. brilliant that's

that's the ap the apat the the that's

good good passive passive passive not not have

got there and this now this now this

so when he's he made he's he can't

get belok yeah with ambol that because because

amplop at that that's that Belk, he He'll pick, the Pilkada,

menang. The most most of must be in- without more respect, but the truth of the fact of

it's the reality, but at the end of our politics we're doing politic-uang, but back

to guru, I think I'm seto so-s-todus- concentration Indonesia now is to-per-beakry

security There's sechateraan guru also. It's great. It's not. Not, not it's really. Yeah.

We can recruit that's. So, creative what, Guru, that can be being, yeah, he will, that will,

work quality will work at Apple, at Google, or in Dantara. That. Yeah, because,

because maybe in there gajiness 10-gut- But, but if a girl, so,

I think, I'm not in order, who's going to be a guru. But he can't put on the food while compensations terbatas. So, so

a person child, if you're, if they're in room, he's been in the power of family, if they have

the education S-1, al-hmdulil. He can't gasharin the way-n-n-l-an- that. But if

if the other not-pun-n-n-pun-n-n-d- -an-maw-in-a-. Yeah, I'm going to ma'am. Now, so,

the hope that's the way they're going to make BEMO or nae or naeke

to get to school, where the guru with 20 to 200. Sissuas. If in

in the room only two or three people, right. Scalalah more be being able to

be partang in the school. But if if you know, not be quality,

yeah, scale I'm-m-maw- -maw- The kibodohannia can be partangu-jolpacan because the people who are

not-quality to be able to hundred. But if if you're good-quality we can scale can

decerdasan, cacaping, chakapan, kemaharan, kepiawian. This, if, you know,

you, as a buddawan, we have able to give-buday-kaki that the kumuliaan profesy

it's very high and it has been toping with compensation if you if you

if not the culture we're lemah the economy we're we're economic we're

and we're not much we're just maybe can get back in 15 juts people

busatawan asing not 150 you utah wasatawan that's devisa Spanol

population 40 jute but it's going to be able to 90-90 million to bea-190 United with population and small also can't get in two, three-cali-lipat from population.

That's because maybe quality of the and scale of the and it's correlates with quality guru. I'm not

too much more more than prioritizing curiculum and technology for somemater. I'm more to prioritize guru.

This is the same this job. You can you can't be music because heabat because

Elva, because I'm not because guru classic. It's guru. Want

as a person, more as as a group but they're too,

but not only how much how much how much to know to know the orchestra

but but menuntick nilies Nel line that's that much

young young with existency you're as a buddalen I'm

true if really so that what the disheateran guru this

I'm miris yeah I'm without more without more and

I'm against that gratis that more than more better than more

better than be partik be able to be the compensation and the

MBGS PENT that that's stunting, that that the people are the people are

still in if you're if you're doing can't be doing both of making money, that's important to make

stanting. We're not protein. But he also is put upang with software. Software is guru and I'm

and I'm going to talk about we're trying to try to be experiment. We're recruit 100,000 guru.

Total guru can 3 jute from TK to SMA. 100,000 do. Masehurt. Gage 40

$40,000. Don't 2.6, not 2.8. 40 million. That's pasty the daftar, that's brilliant.

100,000 40,000 1,000, $40,000, $8,000. Yeah, it's more, $2,000.

Angarant pendidikin, that's 600 to $700,000. Masa, not be allocated $50-an-trillion, for experiment

idea, that if, if I'm in hypothesis I, it's just it be partangu-jolk. Because this will be correlates with peningatant decedasance, peningotan cheshytrainerant,

pettic-metic apap-pun, which relevant to how we can can't the buddayaan and peradaband that's great to the front.

Moman music, to mhmahat, to lookis, it's need to know, right, right? Right, right? Not possible.

TANpacusy. And cognizis, if, if, if, if, if, if, they can't be mongue, and ambitionation.

If you, not maximal, he, not there, no, there, not be imaginationation. He, not be ambisi.

Yeah, just, the hokkian, but the co-hikion, it must becubunked. with ambition and imagination. So,

um, the, um, the day-saing, yeah. Daya-saing, a lot of society,

in the way. Yeah. From there, the, the power of our side we, it's, it's not quite,

can, that, in banding other countries other than, I've been had been a palamand,

yeah, in Toledo, in Spain, in a festival, right after COVID, 2003.

Cota that, Cota Heritage, indus and there's people, there's a person wife,

his wife, hisri, who's on the exciting so, and he's having to

photo, and then, and, and, finally, and I need,

the final, I, CD, I'm taking, I'm talking, and

we're, in the same uh, uh, I'd say concert. I think I'd say,

I'm going to you, I'm from where? He said, he said from Finland. Okay. Yeah,

go, go and gobble, enjoy, yeah, then, and then, heburant in Toledo. Profesioning

what, we're doing good. Mora BORAsa. Guru. Yeah, element, guru,

um, the, um, SMP, the, One, the one, guru SED. The mother's Gourgues S&P.

Wow, assic, yeah. Bussarer than to where, yeah, we're every time do liberan, to Asia, to, to South Africa. He said,

that's guru, yeah, guru, to be able to take the time, and mampo to travel. And mampu until South Africa.

Yeah, okay, like, if Spain, can, but I'm still agadette tershapy. I've been to ask to Lombok Island in Liburant on what?

Oh. Now, I mean, I'm going to I'm going to be my friend I'm doing Dita Besar

in Helsinki in Finland. Mas, Ms. Dubas, if Gagi Gouru A.

S.D. D. Oh, set a professor to Ms. Duky. There's no, there's Gourn-SD and professor

Pergerontingi in here Gagi and co-insentivs it's same the highergues like that. No wonder they're

certain or can be, um, make make make sure more of the open and

many ideas in Finland can technology so much, that's in Indonesia not many

guru who can be I'm going to Spaniel. Oh, yeah, not, if you get a

gift of them a year a lot of you. Yeah. Mastitia we're going like we're

going to be about people, or I'm going with you as a other, as I'm

that, I know that I'm know that that's a kind of, you know, we're,

we can be able to be buddakkan that the profession guru that's that has

beenuliakkan. And It has been topang with chastraeat. Hanyed with budd we can

recruit people who are quality and make buhackan talent that's that's in the context

whatever economy like policy like, politic like, academic, like

academic, academic, like, budd, kind of society, or anything. Yeah,

yeah, if, if, if, so, soid, yeah. So,

yeah. So, yeah. as a a person uh did it

and in the education there's good and I'm sure that's too if it's it's

it's it's much yeah gajiness guru that very basic very

yeah and and nischia and notp not more the not can't

be margues talent that that's great That's There's also

There's also There's a There's There's There's There though

But yeah Yeah So it's bad So, yeah So, yeah

As as musis and that's and that I'm actually

there's been quite many many many over There has

there there there in the area of all Indonesia So,

so that's the is support. Because Sangar it's manned buddha,

can he had sanggart tari. Sangar uncle, small, and it's

little, there in desa desa, there in curahan, in the community, if you

can, there's there, banjar, yeah. Part, all banjar has got

gamelan. Patsy some baner, there, there, there, there,

and they're there, and they're We always, many ceremonies. So, so-in-a-budia is a-jalan, and depractic-can, that's, in all of Indonesia

there's plenty of for the law formal, the children, our children, we can get a tentuhan-sangar. Selan guru, also, Sangar, it's, if, in myrude,

in every Pemda-Pemda, it's, be hibahed a bit more, a month, now, now, now they're

still hard, but it's still hard. But, but Sanger it is a way of preservation

of the bigujaan and it did do do not by men men who want to

give dampac to redact to the environment. Yeah. But

it's still still more ter what yeah, to facilitation, ter-ducing,

that's many, the members of swastah have seen CSR that

has been to the but it still that's sure that shang-sankar

in my opinion I'm very much I'm, I'm, example, to Jambi.

In-Sit, there is there, there, the resenian, namani, um,

Rabana that with Solawat, what, yeah, name that. There's Sangar and Sangar that is done by a person

senior who what, what, the name, the same, and meneruskan that Buddha

that's not not be, not be illan, Sike, Namedh, Nameda, Sike,

it's, Bhasa Jambi from Sikir. Now, now, now, now, it's, that's,

it's, I've been to the Sanger But only with Sanger that, buddha performing art,

the Seney Pertunuching art, Siki Erbana that, can be sustained in there, be a continuation, and there

other generations generation. That's a little, but I think I have to be partaking. Penty.

Pente. I think. I'm thinking how, this can dialectica, yeah, about the

to make a realyacan profession guru. But how it's just there poetry,

there's there's there love, or there film that can them

can professy guru. Yeah, this kind of it's, it's

kind of because it is very correlations with the important we're

about people, without cognizue but we're I feel like to erosy that's

now, this, how I'm going to kempanku keypentingan in room-tanga, in school,

in the place ibadah in institutions social for them to make

think they're to make the budaya baru that's that the

kumuliaan profession guru that that has very very much I agree

so much. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Wiki, we've got got to go long. Many than

one and a time. There's a end of the end of my, yeah, yeah,

so, I think make a about that sometimes we're we're looking

people other than other more better, or the country other more

better We're more in a lot. Trenica because we're just because we're muchsupory just. When I'm

from Athena that's, it's really gulh really. Summer, the, panas in 43,

it's like in the weather to, in application handpon, feel like 47, like, so,

sometimes we're, sometimes we're sometimes we're when we're, here, do Jakarta panas really? Trenuantah there.

There's, there. There's, there. There's, there. There's, there. There's, there. So, so, so, many,

perssukur, just. Banyakur, that, also, do, practiced with, with,

with, more more than, for, the, more, more, more,

I'm more, I'm going to be composer, so the music also because this is a lot more than more more than

people, for generation and for the country our own, to the kumadjuan our own our own

maybe only a but that's that we can we can't we're back we're we're sure

that we can make the best that's the best for everyone. Amos.

Amos. Thank you. Thank you. Tremant, that's Dwiqi Darmawan, buddhaewan, and musicians that's great,

very. Thank you.