Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Gibran Huzaifah: Perbaiki Nasib Petambak, Basmi Kelaparan

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

Gibran Huzaifah, CEO dan co-Founder eFishery, percaya pengentasan kelaparan, kesenjangan, dan permasalahan lingkungan dapat dimulai dari pesisir Indonesia. Dalam diskusi ini, Gibran bicara tentang penerapan teknologi dalam menyolusikan permasaalahan budi daya perairan, bagaimana akuakultur dapat menjadi solusi pangan berkelanjutan, hingga kisah perjuangan hidupnya dalam membangun dan mengembangkan startup Aqua-Tech pertama di Asia. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #GibranHuzaifah ------------------- Isi survey Endgame dan menangkan merchandise Endgame: https://endgame.id/survey Pre-Order merchandise resmi Endgame: https://wa.me/628119182045 Wujudkan mimpi menjadi pemimpin visioner berikutnya. Hubungi SGPP Indonesia di: admissions.sgpp.ac.id  [e-mail] https://wa.me/628111522504 Playlist episode "Endgame" lainnya: https://endgame.id/season2 https://endgame.id/season1 https://endgame.id/thetake Kunjungi dan subscribe: @SGPP Indonesia @Visinema Pictures

at the tithing, that's the last, that's the first of the first, right? Yeah, I'm sorry, it's really, so. Oh, I'm sorry, seduce, seduce, see. At the end, and what I'm sadder, the other than, in Indonesia, and in Jow Barat, because that's in the people that I've read. Oh, I'm saddick, so.

And, maybe, yeah, tragedy, it's a... ...galy, from the semesta, from, from, from, from, to give us to say, I was a lot of the life-that-that-that-you-pain-bas-mic-laparan. And we consider to be successful, most profitable in the world, but we're not bant to farmers. We fail, that's the only to help us. Don't even if we're going to do something to be a bit of the metrics,

but we lose the sense, the same way that I also consider myself, lose the sense of mission that, eight-bunals, 10-uped-uped, d-bending 10-time, because because market we can't make in, financing we're

using it, biggest cost of the biggest cost we're banged, the way of budi-dyeh we can't be able to, it's really, it's really, the other, that's it, that's it, Paul.

Hello, we're here we're coming Gibran Huzaifa, founder of E-Fisheries. Gibran, thank you very. It's a non-urpa, thank you, It's an honor.

It's an honor. It's a lot of the 31 December, 89. Then how's how to this? It's a long, that's the story. This is very inspiring, this is a... It's a... It's a rags to riches, or rags to something, story.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was, I was born in 31 December, 89. I was, I was in Jakarta. But when I was born, I was born in Puegadong. Poulogadung, in the Poole of the world of the child for a lot of the land of the land of the but I'm at the next

belantarantarantarantan Kali in Poulogadung and the terminal Poulogadong and the past of Poulogadong, so, it's about the area of the area of the community, but it's about the area of the and it's being more more, but,

definitely not justaithrae. So, when I was a little I think, we're being, we'd, We have you know-and-and-and-and-a-pand-a-a-pand-a-a-could-a-pand-a-to-smart-a-could-a-could-a-old, for the room-tidur-died, and the tomb-necliq from triplegat, the sand-n-lach-lap-n-n-lars, so just in plur-git-a-a-a-a-oh-a-oh-a-lore-a-old,

That's that's that's the time I think that's the same, but... Somehow, if I think it's... Hangat, it's the rest of the... Because, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be able to-called with my father, with that. So, my. So, how many people, how many, people? Colourage, I have... There are three...

So, there are three brothersodara, so, so two of the other, but selisiness is a little long, seven-old. So, so, seven-year. So, I'm... well-a-a-a-sum-a-sha-mood-a-sha-ma-a-sha-ma-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cest, and, after-a-a-cest-a-tecac-a-tecac-a-old, and, actually, it's a little-lite-a-a-old, but... ...that-the-a-a-lac-a-a-a-lac-a-a-a-lac-a-a-a-a-l-a-cil.

that I'm... I'm from the child, So, if I'm in a bit of course, I'm in a lot of course, I'm not just about reading just because I'm reading. And when S.D, people, usually,

I'm playing, I'm not playing. So, so much, so that's in class, restirate, work in so-all. So, so the system is catar-wuland,

yeah. In the one-partame, I'd, I'd, I'd have had hatamin the PR. So, so, time, and, you know, What's what?

PR? There's a PR. Not even more, I'm going to work just like that. So, not know, naturally, like that's like that. But, yeah, pinter, is, not to colloquy, genius, but, but, it's just to learn, and not too much like to play,

and, and, small, so, that's the masts, so, so I'm in S.D. So, I'm impressed, that, you, in 0.5, Pag, Pogadong, so, that.

So, that's what I'm seeing, I'm not quite diverse. I'm with a lot of many, like, you know, like, but there are people who are that. So I'm being very interacting to that.

So, and, as a academic, I think, character I'm from the Asia, so, my,

my, so, so, so, the background is the background of the, So actually, so the law ismap, so,

so, but I'm not a background, but I'm also, yeah, cenderung pintar, see, in the schoolhs, just because when I'm going to get up school, so that's why I want to think the child can't. He's the cultured, butcha, and all right,

and bea-beladjahed, and ambiasa-it-it-and, and, and, I'm just like to come back to that. But, in a-cademic, yeah, not straight A student, too, because of the one, sometimes. if you're ranked one, but if the score's down a bit, why, matematica, that's not, why?

It's kind of, kind of, because, but when I remember there, like, like, when the class four, that, the ranking three, that, dream cast, there, there, game console, ranking two, the two, got PlayStation, that.

I rang one, well, you do you do, do you, do, pass two, don't? No, no, so, so, so, so, if, if, if, If you get punishment, if we're not ever,

so we've got something, then, it's because we work on it, so that's belly that I can get in. When I was going to get in the Bacassi. So, I'm going to be able to go back from Bekasi. So, why do you know where to beckos from? Because of Bleda from Bermas, because of Bely Rums, I think of a house

and then, at home, nearerapan Inda. Now, I'm going to, but, the Taman Harapan Baru, it's a far away, it's just very, from there, there, So I'm still Rhaven, so I'm asking why why you're going to buy it to be $54,000,

but at least, yeah, but I'm going to to get to $1MP. I'm going to class 1, actually, in Jakarta, but SMP class 2, to end up to SMP Islam-terpadu, because I'd like to stay in the swastas that, to be it's better better. But what's interesting in the SMP,

I'm actually, I'm just quite, in academics, but when I was a student I'm not yet, I'm not lewdest. I got nine, but I'm English I got nine. The other than English I got seven. The English I got seven. The English is 3.25. That's why it's the way that's.

That's the same job. So, I'm going to say, it's a lot of 8.88, so, I don't know, maybe the computer's a lot or anything, or whatever. Yeah. Because that,

SMPI Islam, I was a little bit nakal, So, so the guru of the other, because you're notal, but it's well, but there's a manned bitar, but because because, uh, uh, uh, uh, because he's notxiat, he kind of azzap. But, yeah, uh, but that's what I alamed, because I was going to to SMA 8, sir. I mean, yeah, the best one of the United, so one of the one that's one that's the best, if it's not the best.

So, it's just, but I'm not lus. So, if I'm not lulled, yeah, yeah, uh, you know, I was that I'm just to can't get a SMA swasta, not there's a Sema Svasta, not there's a Sama Svara that's the most of the best, I said, there's a lot of Pekaze, in Bekasi, in the complex.

SMA also, too, mewhaeweh, mepet rawa, that's... Cuma, two landai, one-angatan, just 35 people. So, there, SMA-na-na-ne. And, and, in-situ, That's the other than the other than the my mom's my, because, yeah, from the

from the case, the expectation of the of the...itia, you know, and, tibba, like, that's just to the same a mom's like that. I'm making, because, yeah, I'm not know, that's a child SML, baca from where, like, and where's just, just be brilliant, ma,

just, just. Cobra, like, at this, at the, at the... ...itb, like, the best, I'm going to get to itab. I'm not quite Harvard too. Maybe if I know Harvard, target of Harvard,

because the ceiling of this, the top of the end up in Indonesia, so, yeah, well, then, and I'm going to and the SMA, so,

but I'm actually, so, so, so, I don't know if there's and I'm not not as well-belager in so.

So, if I'malas, do you? I'm alas, I'malas, yeah, meen guitar, you know? And then, if we're in-bola, and then, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

the billy. The degree biolidic, I, you know, that's, you know, that, that's, so, that. So, and then, so, I think,

class three, SMA, when, uh, the, people, like, in the SMA, it's,

that, I, so, I, so, I, I was in the time I'm I'm just like that's this time yeah and I'm

looking to the time there's one there's some like that I'm going to there's there's a there that

there's there that there's off gun to the lidah temann ah, so it's so it's

camera but that's but that's my same a for the same a half the same a but the most of the same a because I have a sub-a because I had a sub-aubinged there's a other

adagant where we've been abys, we've been able to learn matawatica at the senjail, we're moward on the school, and then we've got to beauling film and we're doing actors our like our, I'm talking about Tom Hanks

He likes Leonardo DiCaprio. Then he said, think, think, actor-activity is always playing to film films that good. So, no, no. So, no. Manetron, synetron, what I'm like, and I'm saying, no. So, it's always playing films,

film, and he said, this, and, I think, I always, that, I think, we, in Peradaban. We're only playing films, film, best of Pradena. Ah, sick. So, that's...

that's in the same way that's always optimism. If I'm like a part of the last, maybe, it's a little, maybe not so big that. But that's the way that's giving optimism to get into. And yeah, I gave the opportunity

and then, and then, and then, I've got to be in a minute I, I'lllust in 2007. So, this one of alumni who's in from my life

from the first I'm in the best of my in the book in the 15 years, but through to turn to run. That's the best of the life, that's not that can't allow him. Because I'm who are you who are who are you that?

Perman to the other again? Yeah, I'm going to give you to give inspiration, that? Yeah, I've got to give you. I've got to inspire. Yeah, I've got some inspiration, and after after it, and many alumni who are coming to PTH,

and, and, so many of the PhD, and, and, so many, So there's not that's in the same-a-B. But there's not that, okay, like. Then, your sub-shaabat. So, your sub-a-shaabat. So, my. So, now, is starting, psychology, right, he's born psychology from her own psychology from her own.

And I, yeah, yeah, still change the pender. Yeah. So, from the mimpi, from-mipi. C-Ren. And, yeah, that's like, that's a lot of becassia, who, and, that's the way to come to the FAA, Itab, what? Itab, I'm as I'm as a biologi.

And, yeah... Why, what I'm sorry, so, but when I was the guru biology I, actually, not so bigotivirings like, not so much inspiringinging, you know, actually, that was badger, but there was one

he had asked about photosynthesis. And photosynthesis, kind of complex, yeah, there's chemical reaction that's been doing, and things like, and then, and he said,

Photocytes is in one It's about cell I'm about One down there There's a chlorophyll There's a certain There's a lot of There's a lot of

In the world there There's a lot of There's been It's complex really That's the process Alam That's a lot That's got to

There's not a There's got a There's a lot That's the Complexitatue That's the I think I'm I'm going to

I'm going to I'm going to Bealogue Yeah, even I don't know if it's like how much. Well, it's like that if you're going to be able to because it's more difficult. But that's what I'm really

that's really that's always such nature, yeah. So on nature, law, science, and, yeah, and, you know, so on the life, so on, so that,

and in ITB, it's, it's, so, when I was in place with, there's a problem

me to me to work. So, she's... Still, uh, but... Not. So, it's... ...there's... ...there's... ...theirce... ...construxed and, uh,

...arcietectur, like, yeah. But, when in P. ...that, in 2007, that, when I was going to ...so when I was going to ...to buyer... ...theirut the... ...theirdera the... ...that it's a lot of money, yeah,

but it's a lot of struggling. And, when I was actually one-one that One of ITB, so that's not I have had been a lot of the but I'm in the room sodara that's just in the room name's the other than the it's just the end of the room, so it's just

it's a metaphor, but it's really, the place it's name's the room. But at the Ujum. I remember that you, na'enkot. Abis it, bollak-balak-back, it's 11,000, na'n. I'd give a jathehattah per-guland, so 20,000 a day.

So I just have only 5,000 for the same for the same for the one nine times. Now, the bulwana it's struggling is a lot of biased, because I always think I'm in the room with people. This is I'm going to be this. This year? It's not. Literally in the month first. Wow. So yeah, and the bulim part of the I'm going to make, it was 20 Augustus, that

it's, it's, it's, that's up as much of the Ramadan. So, it's, uh, pussing, well, it's been, has sour and the sourn't-kish-k, sometimes, sometimes, have to keep sour. And, yeah, at the titic it, there's been a little bit of so-d-soddera, so, so it's a lot, so much, living, and there's

at one point, in the beginning, it's got to be able to be able to be able to be able to do it, because, it's a lot, it's justa-old, it's too, it's a lot, but I'm gonna'bushan-u-u-u-pia. And I think, uh, 6,000 rupees, then I'm, and I'm sorry, soar, so I'm not sour, so at that, So I was I'm up to come up to $500,000,000.

I'm going to $500,000. I'm going to get up to $1,000 to $500 peri. And then I can't go back. Oh, the money is $500 perak, I'm not sure. I'm not going to be able, that. Yeah, so I'm not going to be able to. So I'm al-in'a-TB, that, in the front of campus. Now, I mean, I'm going to live in the mosque.

And in the mass of the Meshid Salman, it's just just a bit of the spencer, so I'm just I'm gonna'num can't get to the same. So, if I've got to, nassi-quotak, yeah, there, no, no, that's not yet there, that's not yet I'll go back. Because I can't go out. I'm not soar.

Then, that, I can't go back. Nip again in campus, no can saur, no can't saur, not soar, not. So, so on three days, I'm going toot-turt, I'm not bough, not saur, not saur, soar. Masha. So, so... So, yeah, it's almost to get to

the first time, and this is the first school, yeah. I was in the middle of Massjit Salman, and then and, and, oh, oh, I'm just going to like, I'm going to be mad, this, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm going to be in the

Mastya, well, I'm going to come back, right, right, but, and I'm thinking it's, But I'm at the time that I'm... I'm not tega, I'm inta with people because there's a reason

not giving the money, not, but there's a lot because there's a lot of I'm at least not tegah. But, but I'm at one night, I got SMS from the money,

that's been, the time, after that. With the money after that I'm after three days. After three days. Now, this is the

dramatic, but real, It's right in the same time. I was in the last night in Salasar, Masit Salman. I read, there's one column, one who's been to muttoned to the apatran. Masho. I think that's not that,

the arwain that's not. Arwain that's about, like in film film. But, it was, there was, there was that there that there's there that I'm going to be able to get in the apre. And I just got that's a lot of. And this, this, this is a person that's about,

titic that's the last half the that's the prithingalapar and pringalapar, right, perixtal right, yeah. Wow, I'm sorry, seduce, so. At least, and what I'm sadder again, the

one of MNiae, and in Javad again, because that's in the people, that I'm that I'm back, that's saddick, so. And, maybe, yeah, tragedy that's, you know, from the semester,

from, from, from, uh, to give me, I'm going to, I'm sorry, I, you know, I'm sure, So I was me a bit like that I'm going to be aparan

I'm going to be able to be able to be aparan again. So at the end of the first of the class of my life, I'm giving up to give me a plan for the campus I'm going to doxmik aparan how much how it's not-tomac-n't-a-laparant. The one, the first, the president, like. And the name is the-sonsor-mah, so I'm going to be president. And the second, yeah, focus on the bidangang. And that's the end up.

And, yeah, yeah, after that's at the bottom, like the other than I'm going to, because I've been because of having a friend, so, yeah, so I'm inmate, at some point, homeless, yeah, I'm at some point, I'm homeless, yeah, from the other, Jow, I, I, I nitip, numpang to kosan each-masing one night, one, so, so, so, so.

So, then, to-send, someone, to-sha-sus, until the weekend. I mean, I'm in the campos, I'm notip the way to get rid, then. Then I'm put up to-a-satel where, the masjil's what, which, that's got to-macken, so, so, that's, that's a lot,

so, that's a lot of, you know, how much the way to survive in semester three, because I know, the condition economy also not good, I'm gonna beaic, I called, I called people to say, before the same time, no longer can't give money,

like, yeah, well, I'm like, I'm like how much how much, but even right now because I'm, you know, yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, but, yeah, I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna'niqued how the way it's gonna survive.

Same, like, Gita, yeah, but it's the way that way, it's all, yeah, work A, Kereja B, yeah, jada convenience store, uh, jade tutor, and, I'macem other,

but I, yeah, yeah, atulia, yeah, I'm, yeah, five-sore, I was practicum, maleming, so, full-safe-mallem, so. So, so can't make a lot? Jarang-so-you-d?

Yeah, because... Yeah, not-mampu. Not-mampu, right? Yeah, not-mampu, too. So, so I'm gonna'-hmm, so-mur-sha-bed-a-old-cali-court-cali. When I was first, I was up, when, when, last, celusan. So, so, yeah, ducing.

I'm only, yeah, two-tack-a-old, like, because it's not too, even between Bekasi to Bandung, so it's, yeah, it's just, yeah, it's just to be able to the same time. School how? School... Can't have gila, do.

Has to what, what's got to? Mast'amacem, right? Right, right. Most of the time, actually, actually, okay. Pastly, yeah. Awoling, yeah, but there's one titic,

where I'm ambitious organization so I'm being I'm active I'm active I'm active in POMP too yeah I'm active in external

also so the cutua division because I was passionate to the other and at some point I also have I'm doing, I'm trying income

I should survive and academic basically the last prioritized, because, yeah, yeah, like, like, in semester three, yeah, the semester four, that's the semester four, that's the first time, that's survive, and I'm, that, IP, I'm 1.6.

Asick. Asick. Asick. Arfor, that you know, who's sad, like, if you're when they'd telephone with the other than the other, how much, how much, the IPs, alhmedulilah.

Alhmedulilah. But that's right. But I'm sadder if I'm not puttiveation to still be there in campus, because yeah, yeah, motivation the other, definitely. Motivation the other, yeah,

yeah, never. Yeah, so. So, I guess I was to try motivation, see, motivation what, yeah, not want to be lulles, like, and you've got to be able to get a good, so, so, yeah, not get-pickering. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm going to be able to

one's one's motivation, I'm I'm going to tell you, how about IPK? Four, I'm not. Not can't. How much, I'm saying, three.

Okay, three. So, how I'm trying to how can I get two. And, and I was the

last I'll lose, I'm 2, I'm 21, IPK's. But that, so in the time time that, you,

because the other, the organization's there, but I'm still getting to entrepreneurship. Keregareembourg. Kereja a week? So, roughly, I'm going to, roughly, I'm going to 20 to 30-jambay-jambay, either either tutor or job convenience store. Yeah, semi-full-time, like. Because if convenience store, malem, it's the work then,

And then, then, from magripe to 9. Yeah. Gave class, how about, per semester? Gavellable class, normal, see, per semester. 5-6-7?

Yeah, yeah, about 5-same, and it's about 5-7, and, and it's a bit more, yeah, if in biology. So, so. Wow.

Then, when, you, when, up, thing, think, think, want to be entrepreneur? Now,

this is a story That's what? That's what? It's kind of the second that, so in semester the fourth, yeah, when I was not trying to be an entrepreneur, so because it's not a good-pickering to be an entrepreneur. But because I was to know as a student who's who's doing tutor, I guess I was contacted with alumni. Alumin who, he made a some of platform tutorial in US.

And he's making a so-al, but he has to make the key-jubance. I'm doing the other than I'm being tutored. Yeah. Just again, I think I'm going to be able to do you. Because I'm doing tutor, but I think, after you're giving 12-soil. One of the other, I'm byer 3 hours, perjamb is 150,000. Yeah.

So, whatever I have I had to do get around. Soil, if I'm just to be able to be 3-hour 3-jamb. Well, well, I'm, it. Well, I'm, I'm just, I'm just, I'm going to. Now, when I, it's a lot, it's just out. This, I think it's three-day-day-day-day-peress, me. I'm not really, because of biology. And as I'm not as well biologis, I'm not so much,

because it's not really, because it's the class olympiade, but I'm saying, the other than my friend's like Olympiad International, the IP's 3.99, that's the a 4.0, that's the way, you can't, like this like this?

Oh, yeah, because it was the law, when you were like this? Can't you work in? Can't, what? I'm a day. I'm a day, I'm doing it. You'd do, you're going to do you have to do you have to do. So, I'm going to buyer a time.

How much? 60,000, I'm going to buy it. That's right. Yeah, I'm going to. So I'm trying the people that there, but to get, 50,000. For them, yeah, happy. 50,000,

10-day-day-day-a-jamb, I'd buyer $1,000. Per so-o-o-a-trial, I'd buyer three-drague. So-a-old, I'm under $400,000. But when I gave this project, who you know, who's the project, you know, you're kind of, yeah, but not, yeah,

who's the people who are the people. Yeah, in the back on the people, yeah, they're all right, so happy. Because for them, because I just worked for me I'm just working for a 1,000, $1,000,000, $50,000.

Because, the standard for $1.5,000, right. So, it's at the market rate, like. And then, I was, when I got to get a lot, this is a hard this is entrepreneurship. Sharing value, finding opportunities, finding the best way to complete it,

and everyone's happy. Division of labor. Division of labor. Exactly. If that's going to business just, you're going to be enter-beenar-in-ra- That's really the first time, just the project is just one just once just a little Then I think how much, yeah,

the way that's the agam, that's, I'm from the way to class class, I'm doing the same from the lembang, I'm going to doco-tokos that there in restaurant, I've made fermicomposting, so, the tenac caching, then, down pupok, that's, and then,

you know, to jeblos in business pre-canan, that's since the three. Why? Why? I can? Or how? So it's... So, so...

So, actually, not-singed to-Inty-I-Kan, actually, because I was... I went to look at the class, aqua-culture. This, if the other than-an-a-cumpus, the stiless, A. ...at-a-ac-send, I've got a absent, you've got A. I'ma-cuh-cuh-I-K, ma-ha.

So, the mat-culea like that, I must I have to try, to, where the class-c-cultia-a-a-a-a----------tucing-a-------------------llure. I'm going to target 3.2. It's. And that's the most of the most of the time, the time, came, came, came, like, if you're going to come to come to come to?

If you're going to put the world of the power of the knowledge our own, we're doing on packet A, and at the at the end of the academy, campus. So, it's ramey, that's a lot of class. Now, I was going to go to the other, the docenererer inspiring, t'etra. And he's a story one of Vietnam.

So Vietnam, he got technology from France, for produce catfish. Hearder, it's big. But consumption domestic their... not good, not good, because pecelelele, like it's not much, work not many, there's not much,

they're going to export. When they export, not can't export to US, because US has a channel catfish and which, which is used to be eaten by Kalangan Redneck, that is, that's the same way, that's the rebranding.

Not with the fieless, but in filet, in cupas, it's good in the right now. Dori fish, in 2009, to. Dori fish. Oh, Dori, that's a catfish. Exactly. That's a lot of people who are catfish, they're like catfish,

but they're like that. Yeah, that's it. That's why many of the way. But then, but all right, right, but then, that's the rebranding, so Dori fish,

and, and, one of the highest consumption for fresh water fish in the US and in the United. and in Europe. Gila. And this, and this is the lele that's great, right? And this lele of the same part of the big, that.

Yeah, lele so on the other than that's the only way, that they're in the area, and that's the way, and that's it's in the restaurant Bintang Lime, hotel, Bintang, at that, and I said, now you can't see, catfish in Indonesia, like, that's, yeah, just to come to the Psellele, Wartek, like, the, the, the...

...paling, it's the... ...palernern, that, it's the... ...the, you'll see over the next five to ten, years, catfish this will go to hotel, hotel, bintanl, 5, restaurant 5, 7th supermarket. That's true that's true. If you're going to be

doing that, if you're going to be business catfish. Pullang from that, I'm really inspired by that pitch, because I I'm looking business opportunity that's the next time the time. But I'm from class that, I'm

back to callum, ma'am. So I'm trying colum, how I'm going to come a colum catfish, And I got one columb in the area Bandung-Slatan that I've sowing, maybe two-kaly in this, right. And disobeyed 400,000 a year. So it's more, like, more than cost to cost it. It's more than I was going to cost it.

That's the way. That's the way. The bit from where? Bibbid from. Bid, I'm from there. Okay. Not the bibit that's like in Vietnam or what, or what?

Bipit's, it's just, because it's not that's not for the The other than the other than in Vietnam. Meworthy, can be where-is-de-de-de-ri, it's already in-many-mone, that's 100% local, production.

So, we're, we're making import from Vietnam. Now, Dori that's already now, now, now, and that's, and that,

and that's, the, I've, I've, made, you, to, business budid-a-e-e-kand, from a column.

when, when I'maughanin'u-as-fran but I've got to dole-asel panin'nia, not just, how do you know, not to beckyirch. I'm going to buychelelele-aw-a-aw-law. Ifcelelele, I'm going, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, I'mas, I have, I had 130-k'amu,

I'm going, like, so. So, no, I'm going, so. So, I'd be paid, yeah. I'd dole to passer, Not like that's the mafia, there's down lele. So, in the city, when you're going to move to be... Don lelele. Hasic.

This is a bit of the istila baru. There's a new. There's a mafian. So I'm not going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to sell ketongolak. I've got to go out of $130 kiel. Per ikan? Per k. Per k.

Per k. Per k, per k, to get to, around. So 3killer. So I'm $65k. Cere 2-bun. So, yeah, per-buner $30,000. Why, it's just $30,000? It's just $400,000.

Yeah, it's not profitable, like the business. But the challenge is, for the sector like this this, farmers don't have any control for their produce. Because challenge is they're going to dole-hurt. Because if they're going to sell it, because if you're going to buy-sock, if it's more than the pecclelelele, Pelelele can't

than that, not even more than that one piece, because because of one piece, we're going to sell at that too, and who has access to market that small drop points, I'm going to sell to me, but you'll just sell just just on, but you'll just sell just. That's who I don't have control, so. So, I'm not, I'm going to sell whenever, you know, to inspiration from the

time, why, I feel like, I just, or I've made nuget? So, I feel like, I make nuggets, I'm a business culinary, Pattyma. With the first, this is 125-3-0. Prima, yeah. From the 120, I do you sell for the Kulak, see. But I've got contracted a 1-1-1.

So, yeah, pan in the 2, I'm going to, I think, how much the other way, I'm doing the way to do you. I mean, I'm doing the brand of D-O-R-I, that's that I was up. I bought, I'm going to dole to myasasasua, I, I think, in the kantin back in the ITB

to be in the kantinia, so that's upurantirapun, yeah, can't be able to do you, like, the, people know, yeah, this, Lele? I test to my, I'm gonna tell me, there's a lot more than someone, you know, you've never eaten salmon, yeah. But, yeah, gotta, that,

like, yeah, I guess I'm gonna, yeah, I was actually, yeah, that's the last thing, so, sir, sir, sir, yeah, So from one cabang, I've been one column, has one column, I've got to be able to six columns. Wow. That's what about omets?

Omset, when you're going to lose. When one column, it's per-siclus, yeah. We're itungan about 25-30-jut-a-tri-jut-a-. So... So that's probably, really, that's $3 million that's that. Wow. So it's a lot of, okay.

So if you're coming, yeah, yeah, well because there's a... there's a bank with processing that I'd sell to the other Then when idea e-fisheries did come back? So, the idea of fishery, when I was after lulles,

when I was not the idea for making a fishery, because I'm actually, because I've been I've been made money, like, huh, 276 colam. But I remember one of my most favorite book,

from Good to Great of Jim Collins, Good is the enemy of great. And I think that's the problem with this, this is the good sense of mediocrity, so we forget that we have to be great instead of good enough.

Yeah, for me that's good enough, I was in the same column. If I want to be a business lele, I have to be a raja lele, so that's what I was the way that's the way that's the way to beckyreda that's greek around. I was going to go around to Jira Mayu, to Cerebon, to go brood, with the people of the landares, which is a number of columbia.

There's one who has 2,000 colang, like, yeah, the Pahjee. All the people are pahji just, like if it's more successful, na'i, like. So when Iji this, I asked me how much about how much? Yeah, so he's just about 25 years. The business is the first time he was at the first time in Chirata, the first time brought a while, water, but business is really great, there are 2,000 colam,

per column it was 40 jute-juta, in the back of the homer there hadhery, production is 1,000 per day. Per e-ecor, it's $60,000. So $60 million for heathery. In here, it's already generating pullo-half million per cyclos, and not have PTA, not yet, not have any payback, so it's very big,

but what's interesting? But what's the answer to, what's the problem is, but, actually, if you're like, column, it's like this. Yeah, Puckan, man, the most, the most of the most, the most of the 90% from that, from that.

From total cost. of production. So literally, the cost of production is a packan, and making good, the packannes is manual. Pake labor. So, yeah, the right, ma'amas, lupacquemakening, if you're not gaseh, if I'ma-hous-a-ha-ha-ha-hut-a-hout. Smangat, too, it's a lot of the same thing. And then, the factorne and it's done to buy-trapard-a-tossed-lapot-a-pac-could,

you, ma'am, because, but, though, not-keli-lata, in-baw-cour-cour-cour-a-cund. Curus-ican. Yeah, that's currush, the other thing. Like, oh, no, there's a way to control that. I'm going to get into that. So I'm going to have been up. And I'm not, I'm kind of what I'm from interaction that, I'm not.

Paiji, when I can make a lot, where can't give up, how can't, P, B. And that's all of the blue, sir. And then I'm going to say, that's all right, Yeah, that's all right. This is in 2000, that.

That's in 2012, like I was. Oh, okay, there's a smartphone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but there's smart phone. But, but it's been a bit more than transition. But that's, if you were from, P.J. And he said, oh, there's a palat like that. And then, he said, oh, I'm going to, well, I'm going to say,

oh, yeah, you know, come from from ITB, but you know, but I'm not from here, burrow, I know what I'm not, right, right, right, catat, that's the other than that. Then I said, like, what's the other than you? It's about, sir, but he said,

but he said, if I'm, beneran backus, 2,000 kalam, I, say, I'll use, no, that. Wow, pull from there, I'm $5,000,000, it's been a lot, yeah, it's,

back back. Inundia, columb, there's been much. We have 3.4 million farmers in Indonesia. Assumption, one farmer's, we have two column just, There's 7, there's about 10,

in Indonesia. And no other than that's up in, I think, I've been thinking, I've been thinking, well, if I'm making this, if I'm using this, just, like, wow, there's a million,

why not there, why not I make this? So, why not I make it in this? So, but I'm going to get-in business perikarance, I'm not, I'm licked to make prototype from the other like that's the other than

the time. I was the same I'm going to looker in carer and inspired from water sprinkler in the godung. So, yeah, it's sensor in a way upy, out of air, if it's kind of same as much. We're trying technology of what, yeah, this.

And, yeah, I'm going to air one at SMK to build that. But, the first, it was the basis of SMS. So, you know, so, packiness, then, packana, out. I'm doing it, this, two-bulan, built prototype

in the garage in the the same-a-lawed-a-olde, the other than-a-sum-k, model 2.5-juta. Heard-da-u-old, so, piquet-a-usu that in LeBangangang. DVD-Ns, and CD-Napes, to put-pank-dus, and then, like, give-S-M-M-S-Mas.

That, I, with the PADD, brought to, you, can't, you know, it's already, like, why did it, but... Why, ginaeeee-a-but-it, yeah. Kri-en, I'm so... I'm kind of, but I'm trying to try and he's trying to, he's kind of, it's good.

Wow. That's how, do? There's a lot, there's 2,000 colam, that's. Right, Pa. If I'm a lot, one column, Pah. One other one, Pauce. It's a lot, this activates only SMS. One-Qalach.

If I have 2,000 SMS, I'm really, Phaj. So, I'm taking up to think of it. So, I'm not to think of it. But if I'm not the same thing, I'm going to say, a day of this. I like that's what I like that. That's what I'm convinced me enough, that I think is something. For 2,000 colan?

No, no. Oh, okay. Well, that's 10m. Yeah, that's just pre-order just. Yeah, then, Paji, pre-order just, I'm, I'm just to do Pajee Pajee and other, that's now. And that's the end, I think, this is good enough,

yeah, to give me conviction. Just, just, just, just, just, just, like, long just on come to come to this, And then, the business culinary I'd sell. Business, I can't I let's, like, to make the fissionary.

And, he's the money after I came to come back my co-founder my, who's the company. That's lulloosan electric, they had had been software house company. Yeah, all right, right. Yeah, okay. So,

and then, growth-in'y-manyanylis, from 2013, until now? In the first It's not as much Not as much as much Okay, la, town this is how much?

Omsett By the end of the year Around 3-7-4T Yeah Mullain it with 60,000, yeah? Moulin'n't With 60, yeah,

with column first with, with, 123, yeah, ccgouplea, c'goupe, cemptu-a-cum-tcuh,

c'n't-o-l-p. It's how, Where can be that? So, if you're from the officiality with what is the way that's been different, it's really because I'm going to I just want to make an alat and then

just to make a lot, and then to get a lot of like the and not to pickeran much, but after I, after I've made making a lot and making prototype yeah, I definitely was lucky, I got a lot of luck, I got a lot of luck, I'ma'amah,

that was actually, Akhaki, who's a lot of Akhya, and was one Ashram with Fajrama, with Fajrani, it was a very early. I consulted with them, I'm going to talk with them, and they said, oh, I'm going to make this,

this, this, I'm going to be, what on Amazon Alibaba, so, but it's very early, no one used Bukalapak back then, but he gave me the potential of internet business, And then the funding will bea-combers company.

That'd be you not want to be e-commerce, I'm passionate in the bedangers. But, after I said, I think this is something, you try to put internet, like, it's an idea it's an internet of things. Internet of Things is the next big thing, so you need to start from there. Then I started looking to look up to the internet business. business model. And to look at kind of can be built to be internet business or not. So, so, it's the first we made up to bein'n off to internet

business. So, because, first, making talk to farmers, challenge it, convinced farmers. Because this, like this, they're not ever make. 25-year, they make it, it's not, challenging, ternetra. So, the Pahjee, who said, yeah, I'm taking 2,000 columbat,

turned not, no, just 2,000, to convince the farmers that is very good. Is it? It's a lot. Why? Why? It's more, actually, but for they're going to invest,

like, if I think, because I think, 10 million, I'm going to buy a colam baru, that's, that's the other, that's the other kind of the other

because I can convince some of the farmers to make the alat this. And because with that being said, I think of business model when the other this is a lot of data information, we can capture a lot of data information,

and we can capture a lot of data information, You can use that data information to build marketplace. So I've made a lot made device, data, marketplace. That's the way, even though not to be able to make, but in 2015, to do you get growth in, we're going to launcher one model business, the name's feeding as a service. So, from they're paying $5,000, $7,000, pay pay pay pay pay for sale just, $10,000 per day.

So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, about the alathing per day, that's the end uproen growths. So, the first only, that's only, people, people, and later, that's,

there are a thousand petan, people, with various colang. That, that we're doing from 2015 to 2018, in 2018, 2019,

we've got to be data. Datana, the data we can be able, how they've got to make up on the how many times per-hary they make up the can't, we can't we tell them application, we know when they're panning, how many

they'll put in, if they're making upnation. So we have many data, but granular percolang. And that's when we're actually, when we're looking, oh, I think our data this is valuable, for we build something, because we have community, have data, too. So, that's the time 2019, we've got to make sure how

how to make sure that's more better than to help farmers. Because with the alat, they can't help the buddiedayness, panning it's more quick, but when we're to come to think again again, what's their biggest problems?

And their biggest cost is still on the feed cost, can't, we make fit cost this more? With we're using data that. Now, bias yeah, farmers, this, the demudidaya, they buy it to co.

The price of retail, because small scale, scalal, that's small. So we think that we aggregate. Because we know data and make a packan brain A, we'll buy it right to fabric. Then we're giving to farmers in the time they're puto on demand.

So, we're building distribution business without any inventory. Because we're leveraging data we're selling paken. To farmers that, that, in 2019, we'll do. Turn to what? From the 70% of the payahs? Yeah, the pay for the price of the $0.59%

so much more than significant. Because we, yeah, cashency, and the price can't we can't, yeah, with bulk purchase that. That's 2019, like, we'll uncturin it. When we're selling packan, farmers request, said, you,

mas, can't, not I pay it? Yarnan, pay. Panem, that's, I'm paying, byer panen, then, I was there's, I'm doing when you're doing. I'm notherne, like I'm like I'm sure that I'm thinking, can we help them yarnen? Now, do you think, Vintech, like, ramey.

Right, I think I'm thinking Vintech from Vintech, we're just with Vintech. We're manfaiting data that we've got built credit scoring. Because harvest we have, this we have, we have, we can build credit scoring just. We work with those FinTech,

initially Vintech right now, we work with the banks. Then, But we canbateen but we can't make a new pay later, let's pay later, let's pay for you, so yeah, that's what they can

buy back to us, and we can open access to financial institutions. When we pilot 2020, start it's just two petanee, 50,000. This, we distribute 1.2T. Financing from multiple financial institutions to farmers'

T. T'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a. So that's what we're the scale, because the data can't be a lot. And the last of the business is the off-taking part, because, yeah, at the end-o'noguner, we'll-harmers' we, "'because, I'm going to bea'am-cuhlap. "'But if I'm just m'am'clock, yeah, same'a'am,

"'ah, then. "'Then, then, what? "'Then, what, we can't do we can solve in, yeah? Now, we have data we can't. We can't because we can't from the data today. From the packan, we can't know

the result panell in, there's conversion, like, how we can't use money to try buyer before panem? So we built that harvest prediction and we can contract that harvest a month prior to the harvest.

A month before panning, we can contract, and we can't try buyer before panen. We've made data this as our own inventory like forward buying, forward selling, future buying, future selling, this. This is what? This is the buyer's in the company, wholesale trader, some of the big restaurants that, it's paid our hotel chain, so buyer of it.

There's not there, no, so there's a taxing, tengulak, right? Because we're we're cutting, that's. That's the end of course. That's what, after we Yeah, we can't holding inventory, because there's risk for holding the fished up, but we can't knowing buyer that's actually, and we can't build farmers, and we create digital platform, actually, because the revenue is

because now it's a new-to-end ecosystem. If I say, fishery, this is what, this is like cooperation digital. Nourke. We're giving access to pay access to input, we're going to access to market. For them join, they're buying membership fee, or iran-yurant-yure-it-it-it-it-a-tall-it-a-a-later.

So, cooperation digital-in, the area, actually, we're really, we're building, and, bestarer, as far as the top-line, and, yeah, margin-in-near-a-dust-a-da-caught-a-a-a-law-a-a-law-a-a-law-a-law-a-rexed. Like, if we're so-per-n't-a-lop-a-old. And opportunity-y-reve-old-a-old-a-old-a-old-old, but, yeah, but, if it's a-bigh-a-old-old-old, so-dent, Not just, ma'am. I'm not visioner so much.

So, whatever's that's, we're doing, we're doing. What's the problem that farmers' belong? We'll thinkin' how solve it. And, and, anyway, we can build it, because, now, there's 250,000 columns that's up. Gila. We're close to...

From 123, yeah? Yeah, from just... 250,000 columns? 250,000. We're gonna manage, without we operate ourselves. Farmers, we're now, 85,000 farmers

all over from from A.C. From the Uyghur, from Sulawesi Uttar, and then, and then the largest community. Currently, the largest feed distributor in Indonesia. We're the largest supplier of the biggest in Indonesia, and without one columb to.

And that's the model business that, yeah, that's the most but we bring farmers with us, we're, we're coming with us, we're coming with us, because they're because they can be more access to the other. So, because we're helping farmers,

that's the bigger, actually, they're making them we can't. We can't. Do you? Is it? Is it? It's what's the charactering

to drive our our... The example? The fact is how do you? The actual, actually, there's actually, from two columns. So,

20-year, 10-bushness, he has been a lot of money. But because they've got access to technology, he can get access to financing, in the time of 8-bunuched, he has been 20-colum. 8-month, 10-months, 10-lap. Dibanding 10-year business

in a conventional. Because, yeah, market-neigh-in-financing-in-massucing we're making, the biggest cost of it, we build-in, the way to help, it's true. It's really. It's really. It's really.

That's really, that's what I've got, because we've done this is 9-tawn. We've seen there are some from us from we're from

with us, and then we're from our own with school in, LULUS from ITB, and the other other two-kulia-lake-lake-lake- and it's

and it's so it's, so we're going to get, impact it's generational, yeah, and we're going to and we look at

the impact community to bea-bank. that's in the area where in the area of the area farmer's just a group of people so that they're being built and then the business is more good, more profitable because

they were only managed six people manage 15 colang so yeah manage it's so they're making sure But people around people see who's going to join, who's the end up, who's not access to the peckersiaan, and then we're going to miss the pinker jalan.

Right, we're back, they're making, yeah, penguosahikin. So, now, the anguatania, there are 42 farmers, who are the last, 200-a-old, like, and that's what we're looking, the driver we, so, to be it's because income and the...

the demeranity, you know, it's kind of... sometimes it's true, because we're not to see that. If I visit, if I'm living in a young age 50 years, I'm saying it's a bit more than it, because it's just it's a great, because... Life-changing. Exactly. Life-changing, and hopefully, yeah,

We can be... because I'm... ...that I'm... ...that I'm saying... ...that we're doing, we're simply... ...weak access to technology. We're making...

...the technology, ...can just focus for solving urban community, yeah? And, kind of technology that's solved this is something that's really not fundamental for humanuasion, like, something that's something convenient, like, if we're going to make AI, for photo, so that's more than that's not too much significant,

so that's not so much. This is zero to one. Exactly. This is not one too many. So that we really build, we can't access to technology, to runging the technology for people who are very that

often the technology this is not. This is going to access to the whole economy. And, and we're going to runy economy, and then because of the same point, hopefully, will beckle of the

because we can give ushateran that. And that's what we're actually from a very simple idea, we can give impact and can build that in the world beyond our wildest dream, that's the that we're actually we're making

yeah, like it's still great market. This, okay, there are there, there are some pillar, midstream, packan, and distribution, and how are you're being about it's about 80,000, 80,000? Total is, 3 to 4,000 in Indonesia.

This is the upside-ne. Now, I want to ask, there is, this, this is disruptive so, can, is there resistances, there resistance from pre-existing paradigm? Yeah. Yeah, in the first, resistance from the petanies,

because for the fundidate, this is their main source of income. So if there's technology that's up, the main source of income is very resistant. At the very beginning, that's the very beginning, that's the way that way more difficult to make sure to make sure to make, you know, technology now. Because it's not literate, like,

To get technology, we're not literate about, so much more than the profit. But if there's a lot more than the other? There's a lot of the other than... If at level farmer's, really, not. So, because we're starting from technology, now, after we're...

Triedstream, main, downstream, then, there's, there's a... ...andic resistance from the other people who've been... So, it's... ...the tungulag, that even... ...agent pukal that, again, that's what's there.

Right, right, right, actually, right, actually. And that's more than, actually, for farmers, like that. How many of that like that? At all of that

We're literally with them, because our our energy, as long as to farmers, whatever disruption that we're

it's necessary, but, but, the challenge is big, in one side, even, life-terat-dreatening

because I've got in one place, I'm in I'm going to curbing with Tungulag, they're going to get in to one room, and what's what do you, we're going to do. We're going to be, so that's a lot of, which is,

like, that's like that, because not can't play fairly, but what we're that's the personinia can't, the Pembuderdia because when the they don't want to gole to our, our gregue

that's the other than that's been racoon. Ouch. Yeah, the I can't don't, them like this is too. So we're trying to be able to can't, you know,

the disruption needs to happen, farmers need to grow, but don't even social friction is too big, right, we're just sitting down together with the tunkulag the tungulag that. So, when we're talking about

with Tengulak, we're, we're just how we can't move. And what we're saddened, they just try to make a living. They're not evil person, by nature, right? try to make a living in this is the way that they defend their livelihood, defend their market,

by playing that part, so. So, when they're going to make, actually, they're businessmen, they're entrepreneur. So we're thinking, then, from the farmers'n't-ur-your-law-law. You're-lawed. No-usah, we're-carry-buyer, farmers'n't-ur-ur-ur-ur-us. Bapar, you're a mid-logistique, because B'pawpaw-punner. Because, B-Pan-Pan-Pan, we've got-tipan-pan-pan-pare-pour-pan. Per kilo more than we don't even more than we can't even

but we give size business that's more goody. That's what we're trying compensation is there. Compensation is in there. For us, because we don't have built our own CAPEX, the trap-ne, team, skill set also, too, too, too, too, too, also very particular in their. So when we rebuild, supply chain we create more efficient,

because, definitely, there still have disruption, in the middle of the extreme, there's what we're going to cut, but the risk risk is great for them to gunggo farmers, we can manage,

sopary their work together, to our ecosystem our system we're, and it's just all the platform, like, all right-haling,

in the a while, also, yeah, object, hang-l-out-out-out, but, but, the way that's the same.

They also can't get value after join. That's also what we're trying, see, the problemanomani and the end up. And in some of the time, it's been there's been

when they're coming, we're going to, so I'm going, de, so I'm going to, I'll give me, I'm going to, so I'm trying, so, so I'm trying.

So, that's something that's something that's missing in the way. It's, I'm just, we're going to be overalien, we have we have we're up and uh, you know, and the endungunging for

people, like, that's, and kind of we're going to switch their, so, we're just, we're taking money, we're giving market, more than, more, man,

more than, there, they're, there, there's some there, there's some of the sociality, too frixin' not too too much, the riskin that

not, you need to-beautocan. This is what? This is what? How do we? If we're in ouritas, 70% is water tower. Okay. So, ikanila, Mas, Lele, Patin, bawl, that, ball, water.

so, that's-towar. So, yeah, 25%-an-an-a-that, it's ikan payo. Payu. It, too, bandang, so, um, udang, Phanami. Then the other than the other than farming. Because we focus on the buddieday, not in the perikana tank. From 3 to 4,000 people,

it's the water or? The majority of the amount. To be able to. Majority. Yeah, it's volume-wise, we're at war, the power,

but value in udang is quite big, export value, can 2.4 billion, for export value that's in the udang, and that's the biggest export for seafoods But farmers are not as well as well as the domestic market, that's the most part.

The cost of the world is the big, but I don't know, yeah, but it's not all the prospecting, because the size is great, right, right, right, right, right, right. That's what's interesting, that's over-luck,

because in Indonesia we actually have potential for fish and shrimp farming. We're not the other than we're the other than we're because we're not the two, the three, after China, India or after China. But, actually, we're being the other than they're the most

the potency is the more than they're because of the part of the other, but the most fertile to be taneming udang and in China and in India budidayay it's only in one area just because of four musim. So they're in the area of the slatine

that's in the other from the from the US, from publica, and based on data, we're just utilizing 27% from total potency. So, upside-up we can be number one. And this inherent potential

that we've already from, from there, by nature, so we can see, yeah, fishery sector in Indonesia should be the number one. So, that's the same-hat, If the fishery sector, if we should be number one global company that's in the top 10 seafood company just globally, globally, that's not

Indonesia, top 20, too, not there's Indonesia. That's that's ironic for us, so how we can build to be there. Asgagery would have been able to go to the world. Technology-wise, now, now, technology-wise, now, we're... But for the other than that's the other than the other than the other. That's the first one upside from Indonesia. The other, we're looking at the aquaculture that's own, buddilion. Because currently this is the fastest growing food sector in the world.

And globally, double digit, 13.7% Kager. But what's interesting from here, because it's the fastest growing food sector, because if we're clear, because if we're like that's up here, the chicken, that's farming, that's, the, douging is farming, but the one of the ingredients that's the main, the main, that's the main, that's major, that's not 100% farming. 52% of the fish that we're making, it's still wild capture, from the water, which is okay, but if we're looking at long-term,

not sustainable. And humanity, we can we can't from hunter to farmer. So, in this sector, there's only upside. Because over the long run, people will make more more than than the other than there won't be any downside, like, depending sector that's just single-digit, because it's fully farmed. It's about the

change of the consumption behavior. But now, if the consumption beerbia, it's not just, it's probably production behavior that will be able to. The first, the at the time it's from the farm, that long term is going to be much time. This I've been about, yeah, the other than the other than the the other, what's the most of the most, what is the most of the what?

Ampire, so if we're, if we're notem sapy, we need, we need to 16 kilograms of pakan. We're nanom, we just two kilogram of pachan. Per panen? Per-per-per-kilogram of the egging that we're we? grams of the So we're gonna'all 8x-lipat, we're less redhawned, and packan,

this is also food, right? So from soy meal, from fish meal, so we need, that's why there's lab grown meat and and and so again, because for production this is very, the burden for the land, it's very big. Right, from the sustainability. From the sustainability,

they're more. They need more, but to the other than that's more. Sobara, if you're not even if you're not able to live, in the water, in the landau that manucia can't live, and the fish can't be more than a bit more. Walthun the life's in the air,

but he doesn't drink water much, many. And ikan, but to go more than a little bit more than a lot. Pankan, this is panguant. So, if we're building, and consumption of consumption, big more than if people more than more than eating, that context

sustainable than they get, that's same thing, yeah, people more than eating, even more than eating, even, even, yeah, fully vegan, more. But, can, it's just too, I'm thinking about everyone, all of fully vegan, but that's, that's the end, we're really seeing, so, because

I really see it as a very long-term play, if we're looking at 50 years, 100 years, like this sector this is very strong, very up. This is the contribution. Okay, from 60,000 to 4T. What's next for you? Focus our focus, first, the, first, in the last month.

In the same barren, day, 2025. That's to, to, from what, From 10,000 to how many 100,000 or how many we're not yet, we're not getting 1,000, but we're not getting 1,000 in 2025. 1,000, 1,000, 1,000, wow, yeah, 1, 3, 1⁄4, yeah, from total.

And that, that, we'll try gabung in, to platform our, yeah, that can't move. How much? How many colum, now, 250,000? 250,000. Yeah, at the titic it, if, now, So if we're 40, okay, so if you're probably 20,000. So if we're going to make up, let's have been 2,000,

let's let's make the average ratio. So that's what we're targeting, if, if, you know, mostly, omnis revenue target-wise, that we're making, in the way, roughly 3 billion, that we're targeted by then.

Because, yeah, size-neil-neum, more small-telegged, US. 2025. Okay, from the target's very... Very aggressive, definitely, target's the target. Did, be pushed

with the pendana, pendana. And then, how... Sorry, how... ton. ...ikas.

Now, how, how far, ton? One-juta. If total throughput from farmers'y our farmers'y it, that's 1,000.

So, if we've got... that we've got so much less than 50,000 tons a year, a annualized. Yeah. Now, this contribution your contribution to the amount of the consumption of protein? Is it a good?

Now, that's the amount. If it's a bit, it's a bit of usasasas for we can't contribution to the ecosystem that's who are also going to go-gobung to our and that's the number of the other than it's the same, from production throughput farmers that's who are going to be able to get back to the other. But, is it's not going to be the

contribution to the country and people from other right, right, that's from other. But there's not data that that's notherstant, that's notic protein, it's a protein, contribution of the other, the contribution of the other

actually, but if we're saying if you're contributing to there, it's a lot of, okay, fair, but it's been about now, protein consumption

of the people, if you're per capita, yeah, we're 50k, and it's from... Ten years,

last, 10 years, little, then we're only 1220 billion. Oh, yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and this is really compensation

for the kirk'nation, right? Right, right. And stuponan only for three kilo per year. Beto, bethawar. Apalagi, be pompa, like, teempe, or what, so, protein is it more than, is the more than the consumption.

Right, right. We have that's what we're in-tower, this is the tiered their time income is up because they're because of the same payer, tempe, have income a little, buy lele with nila. If you're going to know, I'm just a lot more than nilah, because the income is more than the income is more, the most seafood, lobsters,

and other, and so much, that's the same thing, sushi and and, salmon, that's the tier of the first, So we've got nationally, because we've got to production because we're producing, because in the area and the area, the can'tcalfa, in Surawesi, in Papua,

so, consumption we can't because, yeah, income per capita that's when it's up, they'll make it again after they're making say, because of the most. Nourn't. Margin the most of the biggest, what?

For the business is, well, Yeah, how much is the margin? Productions, probably, modality $45,000,000, but you'll sell it to be $90,000, $10,000. Perkilled? Yeah, it's kind of upurances.

If you're in, $15,000, the oiling is $19,000. Oh, tipis. Oh, wouldang be 100% and? Beto, but it's, but it's the risk. Porsi udang, is what,

from top line? In our in our... If we're in our own, it's still around, well, good, yeah, right? Margines 100%. The plan is going to be taken? Yeah, we're... Contribusies 18% that's...

...pastly, right? And maybe it's clarify that contribution 100% that's not from full margin, from budi-daya, from the market, so if it's not as big that, but, yeah, yeah, we're takingacted, Because of this is export-upes. So, right? So,

contribution to export-neesor-borsed the market-neged-global, so, so, it's also impact to devisement the global that's very. But he rent-an

with the disease? Rent-sqaeda with the disease. Okay. Now, that we're trying, we're like we're trying, can't not, we can't,

yeah, we can't, yeah, we can't, we can't, or early-warning system, or early-warning system for disease? So, next stage for us,

Solving, not only supply chain problems, but farming problems. So, it's, you know, disease, genetics, hopefully at some point later on, so, because, yeah, because sustainability from the sector is the sector that, in Indonesia, is still great, so that's really, so that we're trying to try to think. Mar-like. Financing, as vertical in the new, how prospect of? Financing, is a vertical in the prospect of?

Financing, is big. because because of the cabayan because of the power because of the polandia almost all the buddiede paste payer after panes.

Because of cash flow nature their, just got to get paid money after panin that they're going to there's money that nature's. Cuma, existing players of the players,

people people people, like local, this, this is coolant, like that. Because they're going to pay it, pay it's been mahaling. Bayer, can, nanty, I guess, they're going to sell to them. But, the, it's got to be cuton again. I've got, I've got it, I'm 10%, like, so. So, it's $1.20%, like, here, is $10,000, did $20. So, so. So, so far, they're, can, for pakan.

the it's the other than the but it's the total total cost of the same thing is that very much more than the people are, and that's the majority is there kind of total market we're

assuming it's like 9 billion like now, where packannes is $3,4 billion market and pay for the amount and pay for the amount of 50% we pay-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-potuny-portunity for financing. The minimum-scal, if you're not to-puny-a-iked-i-a-k. If fintech, yeah, what-l-lake, not-gash-a-cuh, not-nascar-certain.

Because for them, the risk-nation-n't-haw-n't-a-lac-lac-lac-cuh. They're not-tow-i-cann-a-cuh. If the other, this is-cli-an-a-l-y-m... This is it-in-dol-is-is-a-n. That's the efficiency, that's a certainty, because we can't know data. And we can give certainty for, and we can't actually, because we're going to ecosystem.

When they're giving in, when we're not we're giving up, but we're giving up can't. Packaned by distributal by the equipment to control, to make sure if the packannes not did dovet, then the money is to make for the other. When it's the panend, panen it's also we have capability to makeang source of repayment.

So that opportunity in the ecosystem and, finally, it's been more money-insing. It's still big, like, with the numbering. Yeah, one billion, it's definitely big. Wow. Okay, these are all great. But...

Pleset, since the same Pekaset, yeah, ma'am, actually. So, if... If you're at all, the business, I was a lot, yeah, so, so, it's rugue,

as a example, when I was business ternag-catching, that, that's the first time, the business, I was a bit more than, that's... That's... three,

I'ma-cating, I'm gonna'emosting, like, yeah. I'm going to make sure, I'm doing caching, I'm doing the same, I'm doing, you know, and then, after I'm getting paid, because I got paid from Malaysia, that end up, I'murcing the same thing.

And I'm gonna'n't, yeah, and I've got, I'm gonna'uble, and I've got, I'm just, because I'm just, you know, business is just, just on, just the job, got to motivator, but, but, but, but, I'm gonna be,

I was, I was, I'd be telephoned with, with the same person, there's got to tell you, there's been to be it, you know, you know, you're going to bea-lapuosu. When you're going to be, wow, al-luck, in where-mana. So, I'm just so I'd be sankas mpon-maid, that, that's it's a good thing, that's the good thing, yeah, the situation, set-lough that I've got to beaure. But, like, in business, challenge the bestre was, when the official.

So when in the officialis, because when we've got to make a fishery, yeah, as well as we can't be able to look at it. It's not too appealing, now just the look at least I'd be able to invest in here. I want to cooop like what. Yeah, cooop like what? There's hardwareing to, you know, sector of what, sector of what, that's justoosal for convinced investors. So, we're not able to convince investors, actually, we're not able to convince investors,

So we're at the 2013 we're up to the other than we're too much, we're going to be made. We're going to do it's going to be. We have to gage team. The team's only seven or eight people. Then from there, I'll do, we'll do. We don't we don't have gajian, the founder not just to gajian. What we've got liquidate just.

Like we have, we have, with what we got-e-in, we have p-PKhabi, we've got-ed-in. Okay, so much the money that we've got to pay gajian-a-anac-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cccccccccccccccccccc. And we, because we're not-gare-n. So, we'll have from credit-crede. Because we're going to pay-a-bore-could, and that's not even can't make-bac-a-bac-lain,

that we'll do it, we'll doceau-n't-n-n-month. 9-turb-tun-tun we're like that's-through-through-through-up. In the month the 9threaded, it's a max-out. And it's stressed, it's telephoned, tebac-tebacan. You, what I'm the tagging? So, and, actually, the money is really abys. Liquidity, it's all about it's all right. And, yeah, no, we've got to have.

We're also, we're also. To get to pay it to, you're going to get back. There's, no, we're going to get paid. And then, we're going to get paid. At the last year's the we've been the people say, we'll call upon

say, we'll get get back again, we're talking about all right, and they're also like that's like that, we're getting to get paid, the condition yeah, we're stressed. Then we're saying, yeah, this year, I think,

not can't gety, dee. If you're still trying with Fishery, the month, then come again, yeah. If you're going to work at the other other, you can't. But, I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm still. even though, like, just, yeah, just about that

just saying, interestingly, bestow, it's normally normal, and the month that they're not in reggae, but not the money's not in gauce, but not digggy same and they still stay in the fishery. Most of them, after now, still still there, is the issue of the same time, because I was, I've been married,

so I'm making an issueary, but I'm making an issueary, October. November, November, so when we had to make up until the first one, we had to house. One of the room that, I'm in the room, I'm with, that, the that's where the house, and it's

and that, when that, had, had been in 2013 men, 2015, this, this the case, it's, it's been haemble, you've, had hamil, too. So, and the wife, you're, and I'm going to,

I'm not. well, how you're doing how much? But again, I think miracle happens, I was again, out of luck, I was, again, out of luck, there's project that we've got to get in, the money after, we finally, we're getting but what's very dramaticness is,

when, that, the time 25 September, I was, I'm gajian. Wow, finally, I'm gajian, that, 25 September. That's the gage first, since the third-turb, on the time of the third of the my name after that,

if I'm not, I'm like that I'm not know, I'm like, I'm not sure, I'm like, that's why I'm so, that's the dramaticist for me, that's one that actually, that's the hardship to the titic-bawahnation. After that, I'm going to bounce back,

there's a lot after-nation, there's stillh, yeah. Issue cash, definitely, there, but we were more equipped, I think it gives me a lot of insights on how to manage the company and scale the for one thing definitely how much the pressure this is we can adapt it because very big pressure that there existential threat if I gagged, I'm going to leave in utang, KTA, a, a kid, a lot of, in the end of the land, all of, it's all of, all of all sorts of pressure,

this carayawain, I lost everything, literally, everyone's all that's been able to be born, but in the other than, three months after that, I asked to employee officery that's like that, you know, there's not an option for,

for, you know, to be able to, you know, because stay in a fishery, there's a lot, there's been who's been there's been gawarin'ggy two-cal-lipat, some of the gaijointed, I remember there's one of the gendered

I'm like three to four he's a new to be the same to be the first of a new car, and he's not sure, this, he's in what, you're not sure, this, he's in what? You want to choose where, you'll choose where, to work in your place,

or maybe she'll, they're doing the Uffisari, and then after the Uffisari and it's more mappan, and the end of the next, but what I'm trying to say is they actually are sacrificing a lot. They believed in you.

They believed in us. If they're asked, why? I believe in you, and I believe I built eiffureary this is something that's not coming to the other. So if you're going to be a good, there's a damperion that, they can't make and that's the way that's what I'm making too. So, the impact of the same thing,

if now Summa Jargone, for me, it's a real experience, we can retaining talent, we can be able to go through the hardship, and then, and then, and, the basis of leadership I, setle that, you, they're going to be about about

about about about about mission, this is what we'll make say true to the mission, you will hopefully be aligned with the productivity retention, get acquisition of this, and the that's, you know, that's the other, that's

that's going to be impactful, and that if you're if you're seeing growing, successful, it's because of the team, team that has had mission that same like we, and, and they're innovated,

new fate, they built it. And that's, like, again, like, there's, like, yeah, when I've got to the dots, so yeah, there's, there's hickmah, that's the, the rock bottom. The, the, the, the, the, the most dramatic, yeah. The most dramatic, yeah. Nine-month, not-deggazed. And 7-7s, this, is still there, now? 27-mast, yeah, there's one, that, actually, they're starting under company, but, since, there, but, since there, actually.

Okay, now. There's 1,500 people are. There's 1,500. From 2 to 1,500. How do you, how much percent for data, for marketing, for the percent to the money, operations, that? If you're,

most of the majority of, people, who manage farmers'n, manage community, who's in the oilan, the lot of the lander, manage the landlapanguant, that's,

from the whole of the team engineering product and data our, that's almost 300, 280, 300. Barre just the other people operations, yeah, finance, back office, marketing, that, that, there. Okay, this is the back-and-the-backer-office. To the front, the the challenge of the risk for efficeries? For e-fuscaries.

Or for yourself? Yeah. If I think, from myself, I think, the challenge is, well, I'm a first time founder, like I, everything learned on the go. Not get to get it's the next phase of the company is, like, whatever it is. For example, let's be original expansion or whatever that,

not get anything. So, yeah, I really need to reinvent myself. Don't be modest. I really need to reinvent myself, as a founder, and continue to learn the way that I did, over the past few years, and risk is that's the risk, and I'm, and I'm a big, you know, mission that's to build, and I did it because, as I mentioned, I'm mubas mecalaparant, but, but, yeah, in the middle of the spotlight, there's investors, and, and, and,

and the I'm afraid that's the way and why I'm going to do this, so. So, yeah, risk losing that self and I've seen many people that, that's been, yeah, that's been able to.

Tabrackan. Yeah, yeah, it's just from what what I'm going to be able to beckon, that. That's what I'm going to be able to be able to be like how much,

that's going to be able to be able to get back. That's risko besternia, if, from, from the company level, in one existing traditional establishment

definitely will still be able to beaughting some people, and we're making sure and we're disrupting the market so, that's what we're going to. And in other side, same too, if we stop innovating, the end up completion,

we can't really help in to be there. And I always say, if we should be a billions of billions of dollars company, and we consider to be successful, most profitable in the world, but we fail, that's the

the two, that's the point to help us to get us, but we lose the sense, the same way that I also consider myself, lose the sense of mission's today, so it's, and risk to build up on it to, the more stakeholders, shareholders, expectations, and and, and the other than, sogainer, which, which, the end uprored. But if external risk, I'm very worried long-term is definitely on the climate change. And that's like you're not sure for everyone, if you're going to bea-whole. And that's worrying, because... It's quite existential, definitely.

And what other than food production like this, which depending a lot on climate, that. So for the long-term, yeah, mickering it too, for the most of the same. Because I... We are built officially for the long-runner. And this is solving, yeah, yeah, if you're getting more than calmer than, how much more than we'll get there.

I think, officially, would be one of the face of my life as well, which, next, next is to be to build something that's more impactful to get a mission, no other than there's other than if you're recruit people, what's the thing? So the first, we think that's

we're going to look... Hasn't nempel. Ah, not same-same-a-huh, but, at least, they're driven by mission, very missionary, that. Why, why?

At least, I was going to be what do you, do you? So, if, if, if, if, if, not, the time, or not the life, it's, like, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's,

that's, that's, But then, not many people think about people who think think people who actually have mission, not just to translate something that's lumbrahe, I want to be a good, but can be realize something, materialization, something that actually, actually, they can contribute to definitely general impact

and their own hip-hapness that's that evening that's that we're that we're trying to make sure. That's the first thing. And the second, yeah, challenge, definitely. I'm sure, maybe this definitely my own bias, because

the life's much, much challenge the same, yeah, so much challenge yeah, so much the challenge the the best thing, and how much the how they overcome it? So, making good challenge the, I'm biased to someone that came from a same background

too, hardship that there's there because opportunity to give to make up and they're up and downs from business and up and downs from business. And how they can't be creative to to build up. And

usually, if at the top leadership now, even if we're C-level, we're hired CFO, we're hired CFO, that must fillet visit before join. Good. Baguian from farmers. You know, it's going to comebering

to comeber. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's going to be able to be able to It's not very much. And it'll beaughanated or not, that's spare time or not, or not, the mataner or not, if you're going to beaugh with farmers

because if we're doing about about having to do you're going to do with years, because our business is, we're going to do fish farmers, that's the way we're doing our way to recruit, especially for the top leadership now. Okay,

you're kind of, I'm going to eliminate the miskinan. You've got to you've got to people who are sure, can one-jut-put-but-put-bees

three-jutor-jutor could three-jut-put-put-a-te-te-a-te-te-a-te-te-a-telebe? Or, more, that? Yeah. When, you, you're, that's, you've got to that, you've been to check box,

mission accomplished, that's, I was so. Now, this is what's interesting. If you're going to be in the endgame, I want to contribute, but this is something that's not real action is like how much. It's just going to contribute, but it's not, but that's really,

it's really, hopefully, but it's... So, but it's... But it's what I'm going to move it. But there's one thing that I want to It's one side, because of the other side, building, but I'm going to make up for the product and production, help farmers is one thing, but I think, to build something new,

because officially is pioneering, but new ways of doing business that I want to try reinvent, because I'm seeing it, at least, that there's now, role model for new kind of entrepreneur, that's to rich as well as much. there's to rich as well as much, but once it's jade to be cagre, yeah,

uh, abys to do that, and certain ways on doing that, that, that I'm not to feel inspired to that, or, yeah, to, you know,

I'm not, not, I'm not to inspire to that, and I'm thinking like how about, or Philan Tauvi, I think we need to do something better, That's good enough. I think we need to do something great. That's what I think that's good,

but I'm not really inspired to that. Because, I mean I, from all that, there's people who are commemorated and, and then, and then, the other, the generation after the

after, I think, hugely inefficient. Because, I'm very, I'm interacting in the world that's because I'm

with the people people who are skin, in the areas of the people who are people who are like two-tumurans, not, not, not, not, not, not-abiss the money, like, yeah. And lifestyle, I'm sure, I'm like that. And, in

lifestyle, like, that, I'm not sure, I'm notherness, this is big, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, you know, that's, it's, because of, you know, There's there's a property that's because of the property because of the property just a lot of 16 meters per se

but he just buy property for the sake of being property and for the investment I'm not nanked like that's like that yeah, that's just to be simple just to be able to

so that generation that's after the last that's even later that's there that I'm there, there, I'm, there, there, because I was there

there, so, and I'm not going to make-mulling cycle But in other, well, you know, there's also that's been to be from Paragonia, model like Bill Gates and War and Buffleg. Yeah, that's a partaglia. And I'm very inspired to be there,

and try to make version of my that I can't be built. How can I can't be able to not just an impact as a residue when it's at the last, when it's atua, accumulate the wealth. the wealth is distributed

but it's the wealth creation that's just distributed over time and this is, I don't know, there's, and I've got to have taken from Pagita, and I'm going to

This is this is a panang Yeah, this is in many the many of the history tools to create wealth and distributed

because from tech companies, but the employees through ESOP and like that. In Indonesia, like that. There's new millionaires coming from ESOP and and soag. And that's what I think, wow, if tech companies can like that, and through wealth creation is actually not coming from business as usual,

coming from ownership, from the corporation that can be de-dead in ownership and we can distribute. And I'm thinking of the picture, oh, can't officially we do we do with the officials on that? And I'm like, like, which is the idea of Bunghattah, like this, can't get in, this we can't get into cooperation, that's actually neme-le-to-coperation?

So instead of the owner of, let's say, if you should go public, the owner's, don't, the other fun, fun, and, and, and, and so again, but we're a large chunk of it, even I'm willing to give my own shares, like, I, I'm just the rest of just, what's the other, which is that's I'm going to co-officerary to say, from

one billion dollar company, to be 30 billion dollar company and 60 billion dollar company wealth that created automatically distributed to farmers. And so far as I've been there's been there, at least, to make the public and things, which we're creating, which, and I'm going to, I'm going to work for investors, so.

So, so I'm not for investor, so. quarterly earnings, not for investors, you know, investors you're not doing people who are people who are people who are people, but I'm doing for farmers, I'm working because I'm working for them. So, yeah, I'm getting paid, and I'm not job for myself, right?

I'm going to be the first force or something, but I do it for them, and the end up, creation the backal very impactful. And that, hopefully, it's new ways of doing business, like, so it's something that I want to try, Either the official, if it's venture, if it's possible, but the same thing that's a social enterprise that's co-operative, one, the company,

which is very concentrated, so I think using tech IPO and all of the public market as a tool to actually create wealth and automatically distribute it with the concept that. I don't know whether it's possible, there's a possible, there's a lot, who want to hear, Pagita. I think, unquote, or in any game, or in any kind of in it's where it's there, because

in terms of the same way problems. Many protein problems that are, farmers who are farmers who are just to be sure. Economy inequality is also can't even though. And not just we can access to economy, but access to ownership. So through inclusive, because they're

of a big tech company large corporation that's actually after once company's company's created that massive wealth. Gini, like, so long 100-tawn the last, the money is tumbled, and, more than 14% per-town.

And this is the because of the action of the pencatacquets of the war that's done in the world of the West, Europe, the West, English, and America, a year, aird. And, of course of the United, but, the portion of the world, and it's a little bit of the world, but it's a bit timpang.

Because the the countries, and beckonbank, it can't make make sure to make an un-chatacan money. The money is that's in the englembunging economy and trap in instruments, instrument, but it's not going to the pyramid. It's not a different the pyramid.

It's not a divergency in the index of the market model and index economy real. This is what's often is called as a Schenjangan. We've talked about inclusion that's significant, because of the money of the money-breder,

the money-bundublebun of GDP, but inclusi, inclusion is not with the end-enjacking that's-and-the-sergainment and this empiric-coefficient ratio or genie-coeasure-Rasio

in the country, and miz-in, and mizkin, even more even the GDP is more even more than the more than the more than even more than

the more than men's becoming more than this one of the one of the jembatan that intera inclusions and the penurunan is a pletraise and succour-sucur

of the bigiaksanaan in how we redistribuissuexietyan is that is up the people of corporations, or cooperative, I don't know. That we've already seen the president

two weeks ago, that's been done by Patagonia. But it's just, but if, if I'm in front of me, if I'm going to, if I'm thinking, so I think, so I'm going to

ask you, okay, if you've been able can be able to beaes people can't really can't even be able to be able to more than the other

right? Now, just it's just people who've been to ITB, the other can be Founder Ishery Sprime or whatever. That's what,

that's what can be a goody-natured, for we can get to down to the But if I'm in fact that's structural, if there's there's a setimpangant

between who can't make money, with who can't make money, miscathia. Pastaingingalan can't be. Censhanging will be. And in bookusan,

which global and non-global, it will be a thing, uh, of the same and ketimpangu. Antarer who have access, but it's not

but it's not, that's not that's structural. So, maybe the of the

by the way, I'm not look at you, because you from the two, that's in aquaculture.

If you, if you're anything like the repurposed is the aqua culture. Yeah, right? I can't see you've got to make rocket or like Elon Mass or what? Yeah.

But, not not, not much, but, but, like you passion you're in aquaculture. And you've really, really, you've got to get-cinted-a-ginted with how can bea-suechidribu-stribu-stribu-estribuctions that's about the botanist, that's kind of base-line you're there.

But, buttool, how can't it's the key to be able to bring up the senjavan. But, if I'm in order money supply, or money-supple, it's not, it's not, it's not as a exponential, only in the

countries and the other that's just in the that's a morea structural, to be a certainjointed. Not only in the country be a beaumbank, a country maju, but in the country miskin. Because the duet is,

it's kind of the instrumentation is that the... ...theirmbaleg, so that the other not... And instrumentation is, can can be accessed by the people who are middle up.

What other, Ghiberra, what I'm saying, What other? What other? But, yeah, yeah, if I continue on doing what I do, for can scale.

But, yeah, I want to contribute, for, yeah, two sides of because of the calaparan, so not economic, and you can focus to that how it can be built. Okay, I try to take many inspiration from all of the

from about the from there's been from there. We can, can't do the right things, right? Yep. You're doing well. Keep at it.

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, thank you, that's. Gibran Huzaevah from Eiffisheries. Thank you.

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