Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Jusuf Kalla: Begini Tugas Wakil Presiden

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

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Pahatta, every month, to Makhasa, to Makhasa, to Makhineh. I'm who's doing, gethirt, and gettiscusing with Phaatta. It's all the way of philosophy, philosophy, and this is about philosophy,

and a story of philosophy, a story, about a person idealist, the name Bung Atta. Jaman, d'uilus, Indonesia is a kind of with idealism.

Look, look at situation the country. I'm looking like, idealism is a little for a bit more. For Bapa,

to the front of Indonesia, tatananan. Why? We don't know. They're not. They're not. And,

the government too, not really people. There's there. There's there's a

atasas. How can't discipline the if the impin' if you're not disciplined? Hello, Today, this is a one of a good-oomatain by Bapa Ajie Yusuf Kala,

man-wantan-wakil President Republic Indonesia, which is 10 and 12. Mr. J-K., thank you very. Same. We're together. We're not. Yeah, it's been around, I'm going to have, sir, I'm going to addap to Bapa.

I want to ask about the perjalan that, BAPA. When I was in Watempoena. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, back, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tate 15 May, then you

And then BAPA also Bantu Bantu Bantu, how much Baja, how much

while, while, while you know, like, before, I'm at Boney, a city

in the South, South, and then when the CEP, Pindaccaca, because

people, people, PINC, not can't be in Kampung, because when that

the ETII, every every day So in Maccas, school, until into Faculty of Economic. In the Faculty of Economy, UNHAS,

I, I'm a student, myassizua for a student. And then, the student my sister Phaatta, that's,

every month, to come to Macaas to unhaz to teach. Each month. Now, the student,

yeah. But, practice, yeah, I, who's who's the workerating, get in, get,

and get, and get, be discussing with Pahatta. Uh, Pat Hadang, this, uh,

did I'm from me, the director, this is the student I. So, so, I'm,

I, kreakia, I, there, there, four semester, like, Koriopis,

so, so, so, so, so, so, So, the amount of the class of

record, right? So, it's not there's a chart. Then, and then How do you How much, with Bunghantah?

Bhuatl Bhuatta, to be around if you're not spirit, that, because tone it's

that, but it's but it's out of the philosophy, this, philosophy, and philosophy,

and history, but for the other, other, other, the

data, but because because it's good, we're sure, we're making

economy that you and that and you're to make the people, the

people, not make the because because I'm because

my because I'm because I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm

when I'm when the thesis that's about about brass scripty not the

scripty about breast now so that so that so much the

Makaaa Makaa Mok Makaa Mok Mekanai economy too he'd I'm into

I'm going to that I'm still I'm going to be able to be able to I'm going to say I'd can't be it because they said one of the other activist,

like, that's underline Soh-Bras. Ampire I'm at that when I was that the part of my

cause of in 2004 65, can inflation by the same and 65 but my

my dad's just give him just one card. So, you know to give the company?

Who, who can't get to? And I'm taking the putusant. I'm taking some of the

other, but I'm doing the person, the person, the person, the one.

When that was a crisis, right? Yeah. How? How? How does

it? I'm usually, because I also, I also still still

S.D. It's always in to- go to- school. I'm going to get to

bring to the body to borrow to be money. When to Bacassar, the career

I, if did school, to get to the money, and help help, so,

so much the, I'm, the business, I have, I'm just because,

the business, I'm I should like that. And I did it, and I did like that also. They also

go. And I think there's there's the way we're on the noncadernal

and if we're looking to see now this the power of the economy

than to the people and we're too. The current our so. So, so

so. So, so. So, that's just We have to be a big of our way our people to be able to be economic in a country or to the United States. That's a gap that's a big.

How, how, Boudaicadca. Budaia to be a business. The person is the one that's the one that's the amount, to move-mage,

to manmagnan to be a tantamand, and the money, and runging. School number two. Look just all people who are in the country in the in the business. The pediccation is the M.

Yeah. Malay the time of the old, if you're at all right, if you know, what's the same, the last year, the most of the economy, and the same thing

and the people who are people who are in the Klamantan, MEP, she was about it. But he has had the sameagued, and the not to make sure to make something

more than that I think and the smangangu to run on risk this is to and not just de-ajaja-can to be latik

to get to To get take risk also maybe need Yeah but, but risk that can't be hito.

calculated risk. Not asal mind in barang and must be there even if now, yeah,

there's visibility stardiness, while the visibility study is something that is a different we look

the majuvant the country. China is made with with the visibility study, but, yeah,

more with with instinct yeah. But if if if Japan, yeah, America, but we can't.

But if we can't make gambung can do what other other than the other than we're that we're like this, that we're that we're trying to make up to make risk,

so much to get the moment we're not even we're not even there's a certain economy, we're going. We're looking

data for 30 years if we're back, if we're we're banding can asia-tankara with Tioncok, the people in Asia Tengara, it's tumbled only 2.7

in Tjongk 10, man. That, if I see, there's four attributes that's which is why Tionk could be more. The first, the penitika. Yeah, so on the way, manus, yeah. The two, infrastructure.

Three, governance. They, if they're, if they're, when, makeslection talenta, it's very baseratrication. Although unotocracy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And the last,

the dairies, dais-saint, if I'm going to in context penguins, Hong Kong, you can't let's put

10 in 1,000 people, per 1,000 people, people, people, people, people, people,

people, yeah, in Indonesia, more d'A, yeah, yeah, 0.3, same than

Philippina. That's, that's, because, because, that's what time for the whole. True. Now, if we've got to know,

four attributes to be, education, infrastructure, governance, and the same, and the the future that's going to be great. So, the fact that

it's not going to be intensification of quality. Universities are 40% in Indonesia. There are more than 4,500. In Tyeongk, only 2,500. But he's been able to be.

So, so it's on the same Jumla, the quality year of the time we're almost,

we're more more than quality of quality of that quality of education that. We're still banka

to Glar. They're there's, where we don't know if we don't know that there yeah?

There, no, there can't get to but he's, because because

the personananing that so, so yeah, he he work with

not only that's the school an uh grubububub fabric or people

and people are they're because that's because that's that product

China may yeah money in where man money

in the world I'm I'm I'm how they can't make how much

they can't with the bihria only $10 and yeah Yeah, because they're

10-and-juta, insinue, yeah, and infrastructure very much them are more than mobile again, it's got to be the American, to Japan, now to China. Munkn't know,

is it, but, Indonesia, like Tijuana. If you're not, if the person, that's not, we're using other than we use as persharat.

Sometimes we're only going to jump at the time, we're thinking the, presharmes that that's

but it's true we've built we've called SDM but I

said said I see this the number more than

than quality quality yeah we we build infrastructure

but infrastructure that can do get disemmikin infrastructure

to catak la pedus or in where it

is there It's true with the of the other than the of the other or other or that but that

but it but it still we're that we're we're we're

that we're and that and we're also we're doing because we're looking to

but the program of the the program we're that we're to be it in the other. Mr. Jekal,

I, if I look money in Indonesia, it's to be able 50% of PDB. Sedangka, the country, major and

major-negare-ne 150% to 200-sand-per- uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. If we're not, if we're going to be

do a person, well, this, this is, I always ber beda pandan with many

the people and I'm saying I'm in the people who are why this money that is poor

because this long we're we're being be think like America

so so with with with the bunging that thing and

then the water debtors inflation. If you're going to make, making, that's a lot of it. That's always, I'm going to make image that if not a new then, the ruptia,

but they're going to run. Why, three years, I've been debate, bet with the monetary to the Wagon, Bank of Indonesia, because it's the budget of money-muk-murra.

Because that's at the end of the job of my, that we've got to We've got to deposit, it's only 2%. So, 3%. So, 3%. So, B.I.R.R.T. I've been, 3%.

Bay, rate, I've been forced that. Because I've said, because I say, while I'm saying, you'll give a bunch. It's not. But the rupiaeat, it's in the country. But if it's not. But if it's big,

people will be be able to beursa. Beautum to make money. And more than the way, he had from from the

from the from the life from the way. Finally, the thinking it's, we're in

Asia and that always make the people who give up green, make the money

and disanding with inflation because it's not there. One other other way to

end up money that is the land land asing. Yeah. I've

I've been when I think about about if you're going to to come to Asia, Tengarra. Every time, it's more than million dollars.

From that, Singapore can get from 100 to 100,10. Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, each,

each, only get 10, and Indonesia only $26,000 to take impang, between Singapore and

the Singapore, I think we can't because he's a business of the artiness from

it's been about in Singapore because in Singapore there's manufacturing that's that real

business value who has that value that there's many many

there's many pedaggan. Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm, and PUSA to the Uthuskwanga, yeah, yeah, to do Hong Kong, Duda Hong Kong, and now we can't

to New Mexico. So, we can't be compared with that. We're, we're using with America. Massal of this, certainly, not the problem

in the world. Maseranak, the problem, the law, the bureaucracy, and two this. So, so, the,

because, now, this, if I'm talking with the people other people, Indonesia won't be the field of

the first. First, I always think if you investations in Asian, to Vietnam. From there,

to Thailand or Malaysia. We're just to Indonesia. Now, the citypina has been to become.

So, if we look, we look, growth economy, we're, we're number three. It's

We always, we don't want. It's more than people who are more than Malaysia more than we're more than we're more than we're bigger bigger than that. We're taking from other. Tamboyer pan-nang. So, that's the big of the United States is not in the the matter of the other, if we don't want to be able to be it.

We have to provide it to the other than. It's not only the problem with the other than that. Ragu, the two, lambasn't bureaucracy, because they're making up to putusation that's what, that's what, that's the whole. That's the whole, because of all of the investation, if manufacturing in Jawa,

Jawa, this is many, but also, the other, the other, social is better better better. But, I think, if we can, if we can't, oh, if we can't

how it's how much, how much, it's true, it's true, with good, democracy more than more than more than

to Vietnam too, they're they're making making even,

even, even, but we're we're two things that we're to

to get back to be the number one, that's the number two. That's the reason. Why? We're reddened. I, I, say, I'm a lot of

whether Indonesia can't be eight percent. And, the answer I'm pretty subernana. Yeah,

so, it's, should be taken, which is, which is, which is three percent extra. And if

P.D.B. We're, one-3-1-4 trillion, that's that's actually $40 million

$40 million $1. Yeah, but too, but, but 5% that's also still need

we're more better better. The example export we're export we're export we

mean in NRAACA or in BPS is high but if if if if you hit

debt the divisar to where and the result export that then can

then we can get up to investations again. If this, this, they're going to, how many, I'm going to be, so much, I used to use it,

that we're doing just like Thailand and Malaysia, that's the result of export that's in $0. In the Rinket, or that's been it, for the use of it, for the world,

for what's what, for, because, if they're going to go to the Chinese, that's dollar, the visa. What do you? What? What?

If you're going to go to go, nothing. So, we need to be able to be able to be able to be a variant. 5% is the number that's, that's, by the PPS, besackan document, same with the company,

naranca, but the tax flow russat. It's Well, it's But it's not But it's the But it's not That's

The puttang And it's not Or the result It's also Then it's Substidi Yeah

The money Cashflow, Yes, Fullus. So, per-tour-one from Mexico to where? There, is, there.

In-cettata, there. It's not. There, can't bea-ta-ta-ta-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ta-ha-ta-old. But, Samarang, with the tax, our tax our our own-jolk,

but, hidden-debt, but the debt, um, um, or a project that must beayed. We're not going to be in that's not

not recatat in that that's going to back here. But, but back to PMA, like, but this is, if we can't make in PMA from $30 million, $70,000,000, yeah. So, it's the $8%. And $70 million,

even $70 million, even $1,000 to $1,000 to $10,000. So, all that's all right, that's not. Yeah. the people who are people who are sure we're we're being

to be able to the people who what is italy the people who the people who and the and also material

we're too well we're going to because we're going to so much logistics we're pretty and it's been more

more than in the other countries and the other than that. So, so the question is, why, that's why it's, in the a while, actually,

in the 80s, or 90s, or the time of Suharto, can, well, that, but, but that,

but, but, but, but, But, too, it was a wrong. Then, if,

if, if, the chip militia in Jakarta, but Mr. Saddoumoo,

we're doing to Malaysia. Yeah, Malaysia, Lauraeasas. They're not here.

Who, who's working in Indonesia, yeah, so. Now, the business,

business, not small. Yeah, yeah. Malaysia, that in Asia, Tengara, it's already, it's been in place as a destination for investations

microchips. We're saying, we're now number four. This is to be the proper. We're going to not even

no, in the country in the world. In the world, it's better than whatever, we know, whatever,

who's not even if anyone else or what's or what's just for the world oh, they're just because they're taking taxolidde this is a lot of taxolid, pay for money just to the things that are

being percum. Now this is this is a good may beaqan that's the need to be pertain the government

government can half, more tipis. It's how it's how it's the class men

mean that's what's education, that's that's in the local of

plantian yeah manufacture or or industry or industry

in the in the quota or whatever or services If this, if it's not up, it's not going to have

if it's not, if we're not going to be able to if it's not going to be able to the education, the other than the it's kind of that's just that. Now,

it's in this it's not not up, but it's the other thing the other thing because it's import brus,

import, import, import, This is it must have to be bongar the system economic and the industry of the way. Because we, one one of a country with a big of people with big, can,

have to have a good, the power of energy, the two are you to import. But two only are you import. It's a good idea. Paradoxal, but, although we're quite with

with plantian and energy, but it's import. Yeah, but it's important. But this, the end-uging the productivity. If we're, yeah, like in Seragin, that,

maybe productivity brass is still 7, 8 ton per hectare. From there. It's down. Oh, it's down. In-baw-to-in-to-by-t. In-baw-to-i-tri-t. Yeah, we're still

codiac statistic, still ratarthe-l-l-l-Mash-a-oh. Disman, back, to make-in-jarmes, from 5-st-thegov to 14 or 15-15, like, I've discussed, with the military pertinent,

because you didn't even perluas. So, the pertainment is for Indonesia in the world, it has intensification. Because you're extensification, only intensification

that can't make reprobial industry and and, and, and, making up the penitapenten petani.

If extensification, you need to be many people. Delibate the amount of the payah But it's not because

the market and mechanization the big of the same, it's all right, but that it's, it's, it's, it not going to be it as a big of the part of the amount. Because that, then, if intensification of technology, technology bibit, technology, uh,

penanaman, technology and the, and the, thing, that's actually. Now, that's, That we've ever been

from two and three with BIMAS. Comeal again, I've said, to correct mysum, Aisopat and in the

Pakot, for the people. And, also, research center our research, center our research center.

There's a research center. There's a subar center about Bari. There's a center in Javot Timu.

There's Karek there in Matarutara. There's a center about Jagun and so many in Makasa. But if we can't

I'm enjoying everything, I also consider to see them to be able to I'm sorry for the time, I'm

in the way so they're there, you can't may be able to be technologically again. Labor-intensive

not not-lacue not even not yet the theory the theory is one of the work

that's being taken by artificial intangue. There's no, it's not more again. Don't think

like like, sore at the fabric, factory rougar people,

many people are around, like in factory, there's there, there,

robotization. Robotization. So, technology. Technology. There's more than education.

That's quality. If, a big of a few hundred universities. Quality of this. This is one more than in five times five times. With that,

that's, I think. I'm always, if I'massisua, I'm saying, how much that that's a problem that's an

large-biasa, for five-year-tall- but they're to go-n-n-n-hous to use, to Europe, to Australia, to America, to Japan,

Japan, that campus in the world iss by them. So, the other had hadis Utruilinu

Wauhobu Bihin, to be in China. So, the time d'u is the other than it's back in China. Now, they're going to

get back again. So, I hear in America, Maysua, China, the quotar now. If, but,

but it's not there's not-turturturt, so, campuses, so, campuses, the campus,

even there's not even there peratural-five, but still 400,000 in allure campus from Tians. From Indonesia, only 5,500. In English, 200,000,

from Indonesia, from from, from Indonesia, 4,000. And 2, 3,000 they could beaughan S-3, only in the stamp, in America, SIRC.

India, 2,000, Korea-Slatan, Korea-Slatan, Turkey 430, Indonesia, 82. I was just about Nassauia, I mean, who's, I'm going to go to be in Shanghai, at the way.

That research center, that's 10,000 sergeant. How did it, but, and, they're going to be, they're going to be. Patent of 1,000, patented. There's one of a work that, I've, I've got to know, patent is 600. One of one.

He has one. He has three, from where, then, yeah, and school, he's been out. Back to Tionk, to come un. But I have a keyakening, if we're gonna do, make an investacea,

in infrastructural, and governance, and the and the power of course, we can't, we can't be a guyna. Like I said to that, the problem we're uprocy. Yeah, ispacet. That's the one

the most important. Same as a day, there's no say, they're going to hear from people. We're just

people. We're doing under the world. And with two things, the money will come.

And with the money, we can invest in technology, technology, and life. We can. It's,

we can. We can, we can't. We can't. We can't make this. The problem. We can't

all the government Yeah. Yeah. It's just, yeah, it's just, yeah, it's about, everyone. Yeah. The last about economy,

this, if I see, there are four phenomena. This is, this is the timbangan and the kind of the kind of thequaian, and the amount, and the last, this, the,

the, the community, not in the quarter seconder. It's just like in all the world. So the world. So the world. So it's a good person.

It's more than in the quarter of more than in a quarter of the city, and the area. Yeah, yeah. And, ironically, is, many of the sumber of the alam are in the small. And talenta that from the small,

lari to the quarter of a lot of it. Now, this is how to we can redistribusy of the of the and and it's

it's trend anywhere man or but but it can also

with a if if if the the too,

more yeah because in the area where there's there of the people. If

if you have had been people who can be sojour, be able to be soothe, can be gojeet, many, which I'm not worried. Although, sometimes not

some other can't be able to bea but if in the small, the opportunity, it's a biterbats. So, so many,

with technology, can, batasan, the quota-besar, cot-ke-ke-cels, it's not too-quant. What is,

not be done in court in Manorong now with what? What's it? But, train that. Actually, this is it's a bit of in Jawa,

in Jua, Bala, Doreh, Dora, people are many people who are to Javentah, Tengue,

Javang, Jav. There's also, like that. So, so, yeah, the

point of it, the business nationality had there and we

don't we don't we don't and and the government too,

the company making the people, There's no, there who can't be, can't. Who's the team of the other people?

There's no, all of the people who are why can't make people who are the other? So, it's the way that that's the other that can make list. Because, this,

I remember when I was when I'm prentaking not there's aftain not in the camp for the hands asing. Everyone is being-bue. How about? I don't think of a

cringarion with the French, making Maccaser, or this, America, this, Japan, no other. I'll pretend.

It's not not. It's not. It's good. I believe. We made, we made a belgion. It's been

too. This must be people. What do you need to be technology? We can't. We can't

technology just. That we can't do. The other thing we can't. It's the other thing. It's. So, and the government,

have to believe, and have to be globalization now, still men, come back to be

nationalism where, where it's Brexit, on the America, who's come back,

want to make, make, make, make, not, not, not,

not even globalization. Yeah, now, the, contangang of we're, back to

see, actually, although, or even, but then, barrens, but the trend of the that's

not as as it as get scat. Yeah, scat. And in the government,

Musalius, that. That's the other but actually, there are two things.

How we're together? And that the government has that just, If you don't know if it's a minute, it's not really good.

It's not really. It's right now. But we're doing to get to China. Ah. HAPE from Tionk is really. Yeah. But now, whatever can't even.

So, come back to be it. The two, if you're doing, the energy, the day of, the power of, but if we're taking,

but we're full that just that. Don't, don't, don't, uh, let's all the system, um,

asseracan, some of it. Must have a batasance. Uh, now, there's, there's an idea, but,

but this don't be so, so, uh, to, sustainability, P.

This, can, narrations is, is, to, carbon 2050, to 2006. Indonesia, has 80,000 megawatt,

like, more than we can't build 3,000 megawatt. Electrification is 1,300 kilowatt per per-one. If I think, for Indonesia, to be being a banka and modern, electrification, it's in 6,000 kilowatt,

apal-al-a-i-i-i-i-i-i-a-i-i-i-i-i-a-i-i-i-i-i-i- That, it's about 100-tawn, 100-town to be able to get to be electrification 6,000. Yeah, right. Terminusk it's random.

And electrification I'm saying, I'm pretty much I'm making target that's already. Remember? 10,000. Yeah.

All. PLS are to PLN, the PLN, just about, just 3,000. I'll let's go back the director. You,

think, you, where, B, I, this, the, the first thing, 1. percent.

Pampak, that's kind of, the, the, uh, operation 50-tall. So, 2%. Yeah.

The development economy, if you want to percent, it's due to desid 3%. So, if not 10,000 dollar, it's,

this is not going to be in with, with, you can, If you, if you're going to say, then 35,000 again, they're going to be able to,

35,000, for, per, per time, I'm going to make up, $5,000 per time, they're going to

minding. This is, this, this, this, the air, and the , you're used, electricity,

then industry, not industry, when it's, industry where industry there, Right. The way to be rewobar total. Now, in PLN, until 10 years, there's contract for.

Yeah. Bapha, do you know, Tionk, town-lapu? How many U. 43,000 megawatt? Oh, 4,000. And, tauten the BAT also. Yeah, yeah.

But this is because of the important A.I., they're not going to energy. Yeah. Yeah, it's really, it's true. But, Only the rung

but also 1.5% that you must be, then the way of you, you're not, there's a room

there's there seey here, there's there, the carusiness, there's no microwave, so.

So, the guy of the same, and this, B, H.P. This, this data center

yeah, it, it's, it, and it, need, We're doing the data center. So, that's it.

So, so you know, industry man. So, so it's the way to think of this, but it's the only thing. There's no longer, there's not one, there's no one. Yeah. Has to $10,000. Yeah.

It's the one of my time if we're to make up electrification 6,000 kilowatt hour in in the year, we have to build 15,000 megawatts per year. And if that EBT all of, we're going 400,000 megawatt in 26 years. It's but to $1 trillion,

so, so I mean, minimum, has 7% per year, 7% to be built, 7,000% it's been per time. If you're if you're 80,

yeah. It's, it's minimum 5,000 mega be built every time. If you're

100,000, that's $7,000 per time, must be that percent of it. And, not even

people, the time one abat. There's there that has been one abat. Well,

can't just, but it's effort whole, total. So, that. So, so why I'm

into the list of business. Because that, I'm sure that it, I'm sure that it, that's, that is, this is the lemaheamahe in the calangangeloans

the people and I'm sorry after I'm not, there's no, there's more that's the always he-angabing this, oh,

it's a good, the other. The other, so, no. So, BAPA, we're about about

about about if I'm going to if I think, the agarant of the whole of the year, that per-tourn

$2.75 trillion. If America, NATO, and the company, it's two, $1.15 trillion. And I was I look,

P.B. as a institution to mendemaking the world, that's the anguarrant this year, so on, so it's, so I'm a bit more than

being, I'm going to, so, yeah. Now, how, how, panang of it, about, on the demayan and perdamaian

to the part? Yeah, there's also, theory, that, that's the amount, if people,

is the same the power, yeah. If there, if you can't be able to be able to, ah,

the two, we can't theory military industrial complex. So, so, sometimes, the war that's also

want to try a new or try to be Iraq. What is the why is why the reason

the intelligence not even-nipoo? What is the reason why they're in gasa so much long because

America didn't It's just the position. Or, or the war in any from.

Now, so, that there's an matter. Then, there

kakouas people, uh, the people, the people who I'm going to

talk, the Bantam the minister, restin. Ampid D'A Dismuukk about the

war, Gaza, that's, the war, the war, people, the war, can he haute. Because if you're

the power of longer. If you're not satisfied. So, the war is, one bomb, jat, what, is?

How many dollars? 1. F-16, that's the price of $170. So, so so. So, so,

there's some of the power of that, want to continue to continue, there,

military-indust complex. Yep. There's setan, certain, setan, like, in the world, people,

but, yeah, so, P.B. It's been done by the time. Yeah.

Pbb, did not make predomayance. They, they're in war, and there's one who

can't be people, can't be people, part of, you know, before, in Qatar,

and, with the people, Hamas, and, and I'musulkan three things, to do you

do with the unbentian guncata and the bantuantuan the people who are and under

and the third consuliation or reconciliation between Fattah with Hamas. There's there's

there's a harapan yeah, I just we heard the result Cairo there, I

never can never can't it's because Israel itself didn't

be meant to get a quick ceasefire because if they're ceasefire

when it's fire, that's not the people, the clangangent in Israel also.

So, even, even even the slangangang of Israel. But, But it's just about it.

Every week, there's a room in, school at home, or school in bombing, or whatever, it's been in, for the situation. Yeah, it's both of the

hard to understand the life in the life life in the life. But it's right, that I've said there's no no other without,

there, there, there, there, of the way of the lives, so the end up to the world it's all right.

Now, this is that is that what I'm that's always to be leading to Afghanistan, to Thailand, to Tata, and get to

people of Amas, and get to more of Fatah. This is to discuss or to make that to meet with Israel of the people of Israel. There is a lot of it.

There's a lot of indonesia can be interlocutor that's on the of the country the most of the economy the

the economy the number 15 or 16 Muslim majority the best must it is but but

but it but like this, it's not they're always in the United States the other people. If I'm talking

people who are Palestinian, Indonesia's military Islam Muslim Islam person. Israel also. Israel also

because. Why? I said, why? Why, you, the medallion under

Fatah with Hamas democracy in Beijing? At Beijing also didn't give them

but because they have the anger So, so much As well, as well,

and also we've been we're to have to have a power to be out of America

to look the face our face we're in America. There's more more than we've got more than we're than we're from

the Philippines. The Philippines. Yeah, Malaysia or Philippine. I've been one, I've tried when one time in the public, you know, jails, just the panes of the New York.

Manjurbou, or what? Yeah, what's, what, Malaysia? We're saying, just, just, simple research, we can't get 10 people, people, but how do you. So, I'm going to talk.

There's a friend that. Yeah, Malaysia. Or, the Philippines. Only one of the five, we're only one that's only one that's, Indonesia. I also 've been

a taxi in America. He asked, you're from Malaysia? No, from Indonesia? Asked

Indonesia, where? In Bali? Oh, Bali. So, we're saying, we're still

more, we're still, we're still, Sukano Dekanau Deganau, Duranan,

because, where, where now? Kvali, Kvali, . Because of America because of America

because of that's when I'm sorry in the world in the world in the world and they can't

and they can be English and berdonging in the we're not we can't be don't but

but but there's there too there's there too don't don't

don't that don't that yeah yeah yeah so

how I'm like I like I've done diplomacy We're disres, and we're beingoed some of the diplo.

And that we can't be able to buy. So, the same. With China, I'm with China

I'm not to say, I'm taking the presidential Taiwan. I'm sorry. I'ma, I don't know, I'm

don't know, I'm sorry. So I'm with full co-humaten. That's true that's given the good

of the government. Yeah. Singapore also to be able to be with Taiwan, with and they can't be able to. I'm going to say,

I'm going to say, in fact, 35% of the frustration in here, can't Taiwan. Why can't we're about with Taiwan? And I think of 35%. I said, I was President Taiwan. 35%.

Apollary at all of it. That's made you know, iPhone, that's, Foxcon. Foxcon, that's not. That's not. Yeah.

That's, I've got to fabric. Yeah. $10 per unit. From chairman's it, I'm going. Yeah. Yeah, I've got, I've got to see one scientist's, patent's 600, one of the career-one.

Yeah, if we have, and people people who don't think, that the idea of production iPhone is $10. But, tas-tas that's that are merrit, it's been sold, $1,000, and the dollars, the dollars,

yeah, in the Tionkoy. Yeah, we buy a-merig. Right, right. Right. Right. IP's intellectual property that's that's the mahap. That, that, that's time we'll

men, or, to celebrate asia Africa. Yeah, right? I don't know, that, in the year, 70, yeah? Now,

I'm concerned with panaghan of Pank about what what Indonesia can do to to make momentum, for the

of the important internationalization of And that, I'm curious. Pantus, not if Indonesia, to include in the whole group of

the group? Yeah. Asia Africa is a momentum or work work out of the work the effect

the country Asia Africa in 205. Then, now, almost 80s. Yeah. That's what I mean it's what I mean it's

what I'm glora from that that's great Mungarno with the Niharu, with what Nasser

to make it something a momentum that's a kind of too, I think too, it's hard

but however, anyone else people can't think of Indonesia can't that, but it can't

that. Now, And it can be there's two actually there are people people who

we're having people who if we're if we're not much or people or we're having

solutions that what we're doing Turkish what you do with Qatar

to facilitate to the economy so so that's so much that's

not people that can't be more basic yeah yeah There's

There's actually Oh, Pauli We're doing Yeah But we're But we're Not

We're Ragu And I'm To To make To give Putting a

different with America In fact Diffrable We're We've got Yeah,

But Not ever. Contonation in the fussy that's the last. Indonesia is to come Hamas and

not braani. So, I'm going to come back here. Ismail her but not berate. But,

Tatar, it's right, and shir or anything. I'm different with China after that.

And he He's nothurted me. Yeah. I'd come to China in Beijing with with a barisand of the military. First time I was going press. Only because, just because I'm madame with him.

Not madame with him, I'm going to say, I'm going to make up to President Taiwan to Indonesia. All of them are being wrong. Just to, he's not in the same of China. It's not. They're going to. What are,

there? There's. There, there. No. Everyone want to be able to There's a country that can be DENANANI to where Yeah

It's not even We're not even with everyone We don't have to have been But we have to be On the same We have to have to have We have to have to bequotain If you.

If you're Preeks, How much, Brix, that's accurate The Bricks is that People are people who are thinking now how to make non-dedolarization, but that's not

much, I don't know. Why? Is it easy, the vaccine, it's very, it's not much. Yeah. To be able to be

China. Brazil how do you? India, okay, that. Also, Africa Southan. Yeah, Africa

Seratan also so-so, yeah. But Africa Souther, to be able to bring to the Mahakame International

Oh yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah, that Justude he not the Islam but he's who

mahoging it Yeah because he He's been itself apartheid Apatite Yeah, but he has

to be able to Right he'll be pretty, he'll be sure America Gonca Yeah

Yeah clear Mr. Mr. Jekah Waktu Bapa Not many

Partion the Yeah Bap too interaction with a an idealist,

the name's Bungata. Jama Duran Dinoleasia is kind of kind of with idealism. Look at situation

the country now. I'm looking like it's kind of kind of kind of kind of

to be a different, how Indonesia, tatanan in the context the importance we're to put

repug persatuan persatuan, consatuan kenagaran and subp we're

kind of Kren. I think I think at the President, he said, don't

ask what the country can't give you. But they're asking what you can

give them that's that's that's what I think that what I'm doing, I

do you know, I'm not what? The government what? The ministering what? The minister in all of all

that, the government setulusely, Like what is with the people who are the people who are people who are there.

There are much there's shahrir, who you have people, people, people, this is a

people who are people who people who don't remember, they're very much they're very very

very, Shahrir, Bhata, Pung and I'm all right and I'm when they're

when they're when they're they're being gumpulant that's, That's not going to be around, it's not going to be able to. That's about it.

That's a good. So because of a one engineer, a architect, a heart of a economist that other than be supported

of the smagued and the of the like the like the that's the that's the that's what

the country can do for you? Ask what the country can do for you. That's what you can do for your country. Well, although he's... But this is perlap. Universal, that's the question of the situation. That's why they're not going to

compimpinning. But if the people are the people who arew the country this, the other is it. Now it's just to be on top on the atas, how can't discipline

if the people's the people's the discipline? That's not a problem. How do you have had a pedagangang of the law if you're not used for the opinion of politics? It's hard It's hard.

So, we're not So, we're trying to take up Like, idealism, like that. To, for the reason is

Sureshersa, must be. In the world and people. Yeah. There's, there are other that they're not,

there's, not need, and be able to, He's been thinking, he'll, mustiness, he will be able to do it's always.

That's what we're going to be that we're going to be. There's a message. There's a letter. Pachekha? Yeah, we all of us all can't

make sure what we want to make a country that's more, the country that's that can be that has been

able to be that's the way, that can make the community. Amen. Amen.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you, Pajegha. Thank you. Thank you. Teman, that's, Mr. Kala,

manan-wakeel-President 10 and 12th Republic of Indonesia. Thank you. This is.