Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Karlina Supelli: Cipta, Rasa, Karsa Manusia Indonesia

Episode Date: May 23, 2023

Filsuf terkemuka, aktivis kemanusiaan, dan astronom perempuan Indonesia pertama—Karlina Supelli—menceritakan kisah perjalanan hidupnya yang lekat dengan imajinasi, pentingnya menyelaraskan nalar dengan emosi, berpikir kritis, keberanian, dan budaya nonkonformis dalam membentuk kesadaran bermasyarakat. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #KarlinaSupelli ------------------------ Catatan Redaksi Episode Ini: https://endgame.id/eps141notes ------------------------ Berminat menjadi pemimpin visioner berikutnya? Hubungi SGPP Indonesia di: [e-mail] https://admissions.sgpp.ac.id https://wa.me/628111522504 Playlist episode "Endgame" lainnya: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list... Kunjungi dan subscribe: https://youtube.com/@SGPPIndonesia https://youtube.com/@VisinemaPictures

So not be in the daisaii, but be put put in the humanesanusia who want to beaung, memeliki, have imaginations, very creative. Nanty, with the same, with kathlian,

then, that they'll be in the fielding, it will be able to make sure. And people who are people who people who are people he's good, the in a world,

a lot, and also humanusia an humanusia an to, and to be donemacken you,

you're likeer for things, heart, Amayoranatusum, lagir to hal-h-l-l-l-bossar. What is,

that is, that's more than more than you more than more than the more than important than human so,

but not only the emotion, EQ and IQ Yeah Emosy this thing is a

thing Hello, friends and fellows, welcome to this special series of conversations involving personalities coming from a number of campuses

including for university. The purpose of the series is really to unleash thought-provoking ideas that I think would be of tremendous value to you. I want to thank you for your support so far and welcome to the special series. Hello, time today we're today we're in a lot of carlina supelli, a a person person people thinker too. Bu, Lina, thank you very. Bisa ad-adir in the N-Game.

Thank you, this is long as long as, we're going to be able, and certainly, there's many who want to talk to with Bukarina. Silica, let's becertain,

masa-kid, yeah? Massa-kechil. I'ma-de-jac-Jakarta, but Sookabu, yeah. Sookubimia, so on the Kampumina, and so on the campung, who's not-tokut-lumpur,

who'd beckon, and puttie, bag, tarot,as, and then, then, then, then, out, so... So, the, a good-out-de-a-l-de-cat, bet-at-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-mal. And it's a lot-a-bentang, and that's

that's a little, and then I'maicicol, and then to Jakarta to a certain, then to Bandung, and, and, you know,

in the judusation astronomy, ITB. Why, astronomy? I, I, actually, I've been thought to think,

I'm going to be a hemiya, because when I class 3-S-D or class 4, I'm by my kakas, I'm from a booker from a bookeroy biography MADCQURI

Classi GUSD. And I was really very much, I'm just too, I'm just too, two tocote two talko that I'd justu-cinted first, Mary Kuri,

and the two, Don Quixote. Wow. Did you'rejointed to beaughan kisot, that's, that's two sides that's very big, yeah, that's fiction, with all right, and one, a person, a humanist, who's very, but with imagination that's not-lark-liad-biasa. But, can I'm not even so Don Quixote. So, I'm so much perturied to what I'm doing with what you're doing, Madame Kare.

So I'm going to be alikimiya. But, kak, I can even before, I'm in ITB, he's in juruson the men, the guy, and he said,

Karlina, in ITB, there's jurusan astronomy, tonong, bintang, bintang, I'm,

I'm sure, he's sure, that's been, there's, and I'm, and I'm, trying, information,

and I'm the, he, he, he, And, yeah, I mean, and after you know, I'm going to

I'm going to be able to be it, I'm astronomy, the other, astronomy. Baruiole of the three geology, that's But, but not many participant, yeah, I heard.

Angotan I, when it, three people, only, from six, from, two-200, Massachusetts'a ITB, It's a little, and I'm one's one, yeah, and I'matting my,

and two, Lacky, I'm a woman, one, didn't many. So, guliae's very intensive. And lullos as a sergana astronomy, then, then, melanchotment, study, space science, and, and, finally, philosophy. This is, it's been left from the mass of the same, now, so much to the wazas. But, the U.S. three. For philosophy.

Why isaitha? I'm actually, when I'm going to S2SB science, I've got to be taken and still research for PhD in astrophysica energy tingy, cosmology. But I'm sick and quite serious. So, so, the doctor said, And

And I'm even when I'mobotan So I'm up to Indonesia Blanda, blak-baling Many times Abbas, and I've been I've got to have two small, I mean, I'm a lot of I'm talking,

I'm discussing with the people being my English and then I'mutusk I said, I'm cutie and they always say, then she'll happen, let's be able to, Now, that, that's at a lot of the time,

I'm atophtiherati al-Marhum, in U.I. when I was, then. Lalo, I, like, it's open, that's that's, I'm not,

hard science, yeah, with me, with astrophysica, energy, that, that, that, really, really, heart science,

that, It's one-one, and sootulness, and so that's been far as I've been with problems, problem, problem philosophies in in the, I'm, say, can't tell you the world, and the world of the samestah. Finally, I'mutuscan, this is the way that's good,

for two for the world, for the world but also for the world and the end up forkemation and I'm sure you.

And, and I'merjacking it. ...menomuch intellectual that the place I can be in

mass, like, that? When, the, there, no, peristewa can't of the inspiration,

save Maricuri or Don Quixote. Then I'm going to galley more than sisy guru. There, no, guru, that, I don't know how to make I've got to get you to nettrum about one topic

or one jalur, whatever, that. Oh, yeah, off of school doesar, yeah. From there, from the class 3, from school from school in fact that Ibulis, yeah. I'm sorry to move to move to comeyenne, not to bechara, or not what, but she has to beckyenneed, or not what I'm trying, but he has to beaerciation that, setyapurit, that'sal be temani, it's going to bexpressy.

And he, he really, bethue, menemani, meransangue. with a bit more than and, and bebushan for, if you know, if you're in person, the day of the school, they'd be able to

be able to beware what you're living during the end. And it's bebass. So, it's give-repeasan. But what then, it's actually is, in S&P.

One guru Ilmo Alam, when that was about it was about, yeah, and he also cosmography and

never he's not pertaintinger I'm sure that's like that's like that's he never can't but

and it and sood that when she's he can say they can be back this book

this book this that the most that the the most of the most of course. Namannaga, if you had that's Suyitna, he's still alive, he'll still

his life, he's still, Pachinaga is still alexia, but he also has a cappalian mathematics, so the ilum ucour when he wasa. He made in class. I'm even senang mathematics, I'm, I'm in the law and mathematics.

So, yeah, because of the class, because of the class, because of the time, because of course, I'm going to gong, bengue, the right,

to get back, gungu, he's, he's partik, he made sanction that same-as-as-a-turdugat. I said,

Karlina, you're to perpustakaan, you've got to becae, but you only only can't bea but you know-hmma-a-a-lawful don't know-paw-a-paw-a-pac-a-pac-a-could, but sastra.

L'u-l, he said to the guru that in-purpostakaan to, to be a part-hurtigant. So, I'm bacharer, and he will bea-cath-a-castra, and he will tell you, Kareasasas, now, this ishousa

and I'm herein this ishurt, but why I'm justurbacastra? And, ternia, it's madehaping. I'm even sure because I'm going to beacar bachsasattra,

because of the first of it, because of it, because it's been used Sastra Indonesia, and it's, and it's mongolah batin. I, I'm still back in,

and and I'm not only-timore, and I'm trying to make sure, metaphor, and I'm think of the book of sastra that I've got, and it's science also, even merlucked.

And sastra, that's, bethul, melus can batin our. Now, guru, like this, that I think,

I'd never Lutka, even Even when I'ma She's about she can't about she can't about alam semestah He made-certain with tecun with

murid-murit-nus-nus I Dmito that After-Sepi, all, she was She'll come and And I'm Bunga again Carlinna's

able to becerita With the Ilmuh, Paulus I'm Burt, this This is a He's like, but he's up. But, but he'stive,

and then he said, is he'll be able to be here. So, not just enough, just because I'm being a murid, yeah, to,

melampawi what we've got to get to be. Trenata, since I'm lus and banga, with my my view I,

he still, she has been gouged. So, I'm going to guru like this, who's who's just ask, there's grisah,

brany to be imaginative critical, yeah? I, I, I, I, about

the, the part of the person, the role more than curriculum. Oh, yeah,

I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm know, that's only, if he's really, really okay really, okay, he's,

he's in ajar, maybe ajaran, maybe after one, but if if he's not okay, same same time, maybe in a year, he only can't be teaching a second-town

ajaran. And we're, we're plotting with the kind of that there's many people who are not okay in the country

we're not, this, or condition, in front of Rina? I agree, yeah, with the fact, that guru is important and curriculum, but,

more important, but more important is a guru. Curiculum that big putt, and rancang, without guru that

can, not only menue the tutuiting curriculum, but, too, It's the same to manning the other.

If I'm not evening up, you know, but it's not important. But, but during it, kind of curriculum not as padat now.

But, guru-guer who can't, you can't make, the them that's the term that

diduntut in curriculum. In Indonesia, I'm very really much reparting- and I think this has

been about It's about about, I'm about because of the yeah, but too much too, because Indonesia because of the

from Sambang to Maroquet, kind of, like that, and, like, Tuntutant curriculum this is samakan

from Sambang to Merroke. But, but, but, the guru's, it, it's,

it's, it's not give to be as farceau as well as with the good so you know

to make sure you padal. Padal, if maybe guru has creativeitus to look what there in

local that the local that by the people, so he's he really give a casepaten for

that and get a for school. So, so much more than we're we're partamataam in the world of the education. That's also, I'm looking at

system compensation for guru not as well as far as with the importance of the people to the front. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's kind of very much to beheading If we're in Indonesia, yeah, dairah, there's not just to beaer pencili,

in the kota-cote-bossar-bushar-bushar-bush-a-hary-nigh-hary, it's kind of there that's been a subpire gojek or whatever, because it's very minimum, and, now there, even tundgangan-tambhant. But, for it, it's, it's just to-cureknot-sertification. Sertification, It's just It's just a lot of And for certifications

Macchum, all kinds of Persheratant Birokrasiness Soingh, it's not Mooda. Hall that same It's also So I'magap Dossan this

also guru, right? It's just, Tavaguerre-an-ting-hinged. It's same. It's been-tutututant Birocratis that's very rumid, a good,

because of course of course, nother puttlenectus, but it's not, to make-embang-cuitous that he can use to make-a-jure. The tutu-cule-houturekullum has to bea-cuh-cuh-cally.

So, very much to bea-tent-can, so, but, so, what is given-it-an-plagaran. a little I'm notfxas I'm notfxas yeah

but there's got to the good good good financial and for for pediggan but but but it's

not not marat this only school that that that are

that get done that it's so that so what they're that is

not But but Curiculum, but that's Like that's left, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good, that's important, he's not allowed lulles. But pendidiccan, it's more down

than than Placiaran. Inruth, I mean, definition people, that's what, what,

wow, this question that I'm that I'm there's been years ago, yeah, I'm going to get romepite

to Philsuff, now, but it's important, yeah. Even if I'm going tolusur a little, yeah, I'm going to ask cosmology in S.F. Triarkarah from the philosophy and

and buddhae that, it came back to, the system that's been it's been in Mesopotamia,

yeah. There's a little, yeah, the clompocheal, yeah, Sumeria, but Babylonia, that's

and then babylonia, and it's about, and this is already the definition of the people who are people who are people, and be pedidican,

and that that is, they're that they can be And it's this is there's about in the time philosophy yeah about philisavat

or philisavat Asia like that but part orpard or people people who can be

be thinking be imaginati and not only just being just for their own and

but how it's then that's then it's putangkan and it'sterapkan to beaicabre.

So, so that's not for really, that we're able to be able to be a bit, but the reason why does it is indeed what? Can't only for one person tumbling, and thenponguech,

and thenpacquatech people, or the Pekyllar but the reason adelaeconomic after the first. Apaka it's from Sumeria, Mesopotamia,

Yunani, Tionk, and set up. Even when we're being, it is to make resulting the world

the which can the world of the to the way of the the part of the partying and it's important, for the right, he's partying,

he's parted on the parted that he developed. But, but the result after. So,

maybe I'm kind of, but I, people who people who are people who can't be a person

Tugas, in the world, in the world, and the humanusia-hmm. So, he's got to position he, and what he can be given-can. Now, this, yeah, with situation of this, Indonesia, like, Indonesia,

that's a sort of special, yeah, Soot, Try to look Tensatea Indonesia percentage of the person What's the same?

Theusan SDI to Bawa So, how much people people who can be Purguant

Tengue SMA Now, this, Tentu-in-a- Disman, can be since

a while menanamkan to students-as-sus- and then-mash-susually. tangung-gown-d, that he has given given-a-a-gare-it-a-cure-it. That's what,

as I'm at least-court-necourt-ne, so it's hard-cour-cour-tucous-gour-it-a-cour-tus-cuit. But with situation that's very-partas that's been-licked by the guru, because of the dictates'an, the area, is difficult-cally to get-the-a-cuit-cally to get-stit-to.

If you, if not-a-a-a-a-cithful, that's-hap-laping, to be-contribusy, for the penitinan, for bankan, banks, and the country. But they're not de-a-jaroid by

guru, that, maybe qualityathe's not as what we've got as well as even with what we've got to be able to there's a lot of one of the context of several things

one of the ones one of the ones to be able to beadirken and notankan guru that's from where we can where we can democratization concept of the concept of the idea of quality

from Indonesia or from the other. Now, this I want to try to be about two days last I've just talked with the impinan from one of the universities the most of the sameucat in Singapore. He, with banga'an about

that they're just just to come down to dole to be able to learner in the campus. With two conditions. One, he's got to be aghage $1,000 a year. And then,

the winner this, he's from Europe. He's made a lot of $30,000 to build an laboratory to be able to be a depend on.

I think, this This is the kind of because of the other, yeah, right? Yeah, can't. That's not can't make about how much

that's like here is the first he's being the important to gawing the people

so, and I'm cupas, you you, you're what,

if you, if you can get one, to the MIT, who has 100 Pemennan Nobel, we need a bit. We can't

be able to get to be so on, we'll get we'll, yeah, maybe 20-an. Wow.

It's, not, the dollar yeah. But they said, if one, can't

get three-hurtus people. And in 10-year cumulative, he's gaw- the

people, then we're doing two-one, and more- simple, for we can, for the people

peopleaer, or product good quality of the first. And then I'm asking to belial is, from the teacher that's there, is what? What's?

Maybe 75%. So, from here, I'm going to look, they're not that's, and, and, brany, to give you can't getterbukes.

Tentune, and, you know, with the room fiscal and Scalus? You know, is it's about the way, is maybe, kind of mirrope

with that? Or maybe it's something that might be been in? I agree, yeah, that's,

other than the purgurant, it's, it's also, it's been open. The company, the world,

to be able to different, other, because, from, from, there, can,

there, will come You know, There's in☆ about Liverpool in other stuff. butまだ, but thereat即-damental skills layer of Dosen-dosen that's dez���ya, that's vindanguevests

that's endang. In Campos, in Indonesia, it's, you, it's not matter. But but there that have program, to have to have to have given up for six that's a lot, or even if you're going to or even to give seminar, that's a lot, but it's not even merupacan something

that's not a lot of casinamungan. Because it's like today, he's tingal for several semester, have program, and thenphingy and thenpensate, penultesan, and also,

the penelitania. Indonesia is tenderung very tutupt to have beeneliti asing. There are some cases that

even even if you even by give the reason, but then they've got the time with the cataputment that, Nanty-cahya-cahya-cahane, but, but that's bethaput.

But, can, so that's bethapulting, that's about, that's about. Now, this is the pen-padapat, today, with what we've said, to be it's an open-upka-and-sepment. It's, It's important, And, And the timepacquick, but,

it's notpacne, it's for what? So, so priorities that want to bekembankan. Tentu, it's hard because

purguranting, can be many quite, which will be being back. But if, if there's there,

pergurant-tingi- -ting-i-hing-i-i-i-an-thek-wka, He, he has, to give you know, to give you know, to give up to be given down more than good, so,

so long to give up. We, we're still, if you've got, if you're, it's always, it's always, I mean, even,

it's been, it's embankinging to, not want to be able to them, like, like to be able to be able to be it. Dunia ilum is not like it. Dunia pendidiccan we're looking

to be able to, it's more than we're not really talk about what we're that what we're having, it will be able, and then rebut because the

is bettooling as much be kept out of many people, And so much, so much. So, so much, so much more than that. I believe that's about

that. And, question I'm going to rampeg individualization, this, agger, more than there's collaboration, more there's

colectivization. Yeah, and also, like, yeah, other than that's nationalism that's impet, yeah, yeah, which is a lot of course. Rasa takut, it's really because

not perccia dyrie. So, the, um, the thing ism need, be, more, like,

yeah, more, yeah. Justru, with we can't bring up-diriris, so-luas-n-n-n-s-lac-nation, we can get-a-sempatan

to be is more than in the world now we're still yeah, you know, that's not much but always just there's been

a bit of Pembicaraan that they're not making abdi but it's cliru, because justro they are people are people

people who are doing bring down ...buttundas, not only for Indonesia, but for the world, this is something that's not soar-bishop. When he's got a lot of course, and he had got a casepotan in the world, yeah, it's just, that. He made a sumbangan for people who are more luas.

I'm not sure. I don't know. concept brain drain. I'm much more believe in concept brain circulation. Yeah. Yeah. Or brain linkage. And if I'm looking

in the English, it's people Indianian, there the same is only 3, just 3, only 3, but mainland Chinese, or from Tijuana, it's 200,000, in America, the U.S.C.A.S. The American, 5,500, the people, 150,000.

India, 200,000. The time I was school, in America, that's 16,000. Yeah, maybe there are two observations in here. that's a good a good a good a good a good a good a good for example. Yeah, maybe they're more than to get a plighter to privilege like that. But maybe more important

is how we can't with the other than the other than other than the other than representation that's more than any other than for them bidig and mongali-ilmoo yeah, right, and, but, but

And in the world in the world, but in the world, they're like China, this is a good, this is peradabond that's been a great for five thousand, but still haus, to know from anywhere. Indonesia, like, Europe, America. Now, that, how much, yeah, in order for we're going to beaubh

to have, so we're haus ilmo? This is that really ammankan, yeah. Sootally if we're back to the tradition of Nusantara Nusantara, if we're Baca Naskha Naskha Kuna I'm from Jawa Barat Sunda I'm bachakha-Nash Sunda-Kuna

that, we're not, we're not, even in one of one Nasker that, it's going to be able to about partan-la, that's-law to-law if you know how to-cari-ikin,

that's-cari-lac-cari-lac-a-cary-a-a-hlea. It's just-certained-a-hlew. And it's just menorous, like, it's gotakhan. Lally, the can-a-lapal and the other, pinissi. But,

we're-n-n-n-stahlia, like, Indonesia, Nusantara, there's like that Lumpurga that's about people who's gotcuted with Raiat

that's then the Ponditken Yeah not be able ask and not be able make

about things things critical Now this can't quite And it's still to

Now, what's What's about? What's about? The British is that's not under British, when it was Nusantara,

Kata, then, the people, the people, who's been being, people,

people, people, people, people, people, there, there's, there,

there, and, there, and, the reason why, actually, want, to make-

people, people, people who are people, but patou. But we have, but what? Hasilna is just to make sure they're rumuskan kermedikaan. So, be a result,

yeah, be a result of penitika that. Now, we're, after that, now this, for period that's quite long, there's time, when the result is people of people who's about and then,

again again, when again, because of the time, because I was justro dikech Tate, that's about Tyeongk, why, still want to find

ill-in. If we're talking, if we're saying, yeah, mampuers-sain, there's one also,

to-keliruant in the kind of pedigation, which, which, which, It's always be promosicant is

the most of the same that's making. If we're going to the alasan aden I've been singed a bit, the dais-saing is that, it's not a-fuel. Daya-saing is

the result from the education that who um deutschewind people who 5ť

so far slick but that's right be putsat in other people who move pickld blurrection emmilichi imaginations so much creative

and they're kind of with the within self with the exhalyan who they've worked in

their management that it will can make sure how much soapsed soapsed by the whether or something

is to make sure from there. From there, from people people who are if you know, if you yeah,

it's kind they've been discipline that kind of discipline ketat this is also important

not even authoritar, yeah I'm not I'm not sure, but authoritative. But, but that's important. Tau when you're learning, know when be able to work, know when playing

with social media. And it's from little, from the small. So, so he's also can be mullough. Now, this also to

get back in the understanding pediccation, yeah. Orang who can, people who, that's notherathe, a lot of the heart that'sraten

that'shrat this, can't be able to be able to becky not. I have used to be mullough this. So, the pediccine not only mullough

buti, but emosy. E.Q. E.Q. Yeah. Now, emosy this is a thing that's often

we're still we're still in Boudi peckerti but the other than Boudi pekerti ise with the badasied with pelagheran agamuptu this is this is a

this is a badal that in the puttukin emososy andolahing batin imagination termasuk to makeang can

the same People's life. Placarerals, because of life, but what you're about, what you're going to be able to beca, so much jatucous corban in war? In the pertempsumption in Surabaya,

Westerling, that's not just what is what happened. Diminta me reflexion, what is it? When he can't And he can't How perang Why many corbans?

I'm saddye He can't There's a bit more than He can make sure He peckar Toad of penderitaan Other than From thelejara

Yeah We're also Pake this from Belajar Science Frome From Matematica The Beauty of Science The Beauty of Mathematics

the beauty of mathematics, not be given to be able to now, this is I think, the system pedigy can't, I'm sorry, I'm going tochue to that, it's since little, it's been given.

So, that. So, so, the, so, they're, it's, and then, that's about, that's,

that, you know, I'm going to come back. I'm going to try sharing one other than before I'm going to talk about in America's Riket. It's they're making visa H1B.

There's lusation from universities for they can't be able to work as professional. That's from allurcisa that's given by occupations, of India,

75% while representation in the campus, it's only 200,000, and representation of the Hongk, 450,000. Occupation Tionk

in the Pisa, that's 10%. Korea Southan that's by wakily by, maybe, 150,000 studentsiii to all the campus. Begitu lullus,

they're more than 3%. Indonesia is there's no comma. But in here I'm bidique comparation of India and Tiancok. Because this is the sameung with cognition and emotion, or emotive, India, that's the way that's

$200,000, but he can't get 75% from Visa. Tyeongk, who's by 450, only made up against 10. Two-douin's the second,

I can't argue, maybe there's a little more than than one other. But, the India, the India, this is new skills. Yeah, I'm saying, they're jago encephab, yeah, right? They're... They're... ...cucup piaway, memproyxical idea.

But that, maybe, I'm aggat gnatismung with quality emotivness, or emotional quotient. not only intellectual quotient just. Yeah, maybe from here we can't from people who are still, they're going to be able to be here.

Baysa also, diarguentatisical, but I know, I'm in a lot of them, many people who are many people who are to make up in America, because, what other than,

with artificial intelligence, technology, and and, and, so-lucked. And so if in Silicon Valley, 30% of idea, it's out of India, who's not even though, or that's going to be immigrant.

That's, maybe, it's not know, how to be it, how to we're about, to be it to buildig, combination cognizant and emotive? Yeah, To look, India and Tijuana, to look,

I'm really, but I'm bethuehyaan, I'm not too much. But, injavapet of our time, we did, magabunking between gnar and emotion, that's a thing,

that's a thing that's really, really, really, because what? Because, because manusia, it's,

Utu. He's notar He'll be, he'll be it's The part of the putosan-keputusans that rational Butal, even though, malleuc rationality It's, even though, in-bush-hackenny Hasrat-Has-Rat Irrational, that can't make-mukkai, bekems with a way that's rational, and that's

menerican. This, this, it's not Belaide. If I'm I'm like, I'm like, I'm I'm from, I'm from, I'm know, I'm from, but I'm also, but I'm gladi. There, there's a

person people who who, who's very sure, he's a person al-philaphate politic, that Marta Nussbaum. He's been to go to Indonesia to give one seminar. He's very much

I'm that emuosy that's and I'm sure I'm in person he's part of it he's a lot

that's very another little little little star but as I there's how I wonder what you are

wonder He's there's there. Now, wonder is there. Then, when he'll look at whatever in the second, it will come from wonder. Wonder, this is a reason that's then be given cognizant. Now, that's the reason why I'm not,

I'm going to know. I'm going to be able to learn. Mu'amatska, Macta, I'mgastra. Because it's also moving-cubunking

two and how to teach mathematics di-ajerkan rumus humus, physics

same, science did-achers- rum-s-cars, this is very problem-solving. So, there's a problem Peacan. Tentuasion

But if wealth If wecahance-masal We can lookpaced With batin our, emotion Weak, now This is the pointinging Guru, yeah

The Presidentingan Beirreeperhatian Sogur, even though Guru put menebankan DIRy, Ketika He can't He can't

He Cancertain Make Giacan Hucum Newton just. He has to he has to get-hmma-gamous. How much Newton's up to-saintopatra Suria, how Copernicus, it, makes upal purumpa-an

from sastra-classic Yunani. The people are people that, because they're ajarcter from little. We're, now, I'm maybe I'm I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like that butculeculec.

Curiculum. Penekanation in the BASA it's grammatica. Dulu, what was called BASA, there's Sastra, there's Lally, and

Lottica, and that's Lackxas Lackxas because, can, you can't be able to Sastra. Now,

this is what again because and and it's and it, Sene. In our,

it, it's, it's, it's, it's something, on the Petsuptitken

Pankung, because the, and, and, to be uptaping, Lupa, Lupa, that's a lot of

whether the world pillar of thebundiation, the pillar of parading, it's, and science and technology, and then system and the percciaan. But,

the most part of it, even the system of the percayance is coming through, the science bekembang, and technology

also bebeamang, then, It's a newarko. , system in the world now, it's time, stymn, science, technology,

engineering, and mathematics. But, several years this, it's been changed to steam

arts. And arts, this is in the world, not only only the , we're,

even, in our, even, we're, even, it's impitken, and, too,

and so, what, what, what, you about the things about how people, part of the

kind of we're thinking, how we're to make, that's that's that, this is

that, that, I'm very, I'm I'm talking, talkacacation

can't that's more divergent than than convergent and if there people who are that coming to

to say I'm, I have to be to be able divergent yeah, I say

well, or to or to bea or to I'm more and I'm more more than we're more than we're horizontal, it's more

we can't-antisipation blind spot, more we can mitigate risk that's more systemic and this is very can't be bunkus in the kind of the kind of

but I don't see We've got to look at any of the same muchif against miscarriageeancy can yeah, right, not only in Indonesia but in all the world now this, this, maybe

because one, maybe Badae, buda Bouda Baca Bucco, too, very, it's too, to keelkan, or to bea-and. Two, we don't know how much, it's-ag-a-a-gap

in era Pascha-ke-benaren. The feeling, or not-quote, it's more important, than the book-imperish. Now, it's maybe, not know, yeah, And so much more than you know-unuching curiosity or penasurer

to looky empirics or data empiris. Now, that's nimbung with incapacitats our own capacities to be think as far objective. So, we'll see here there two phenomena. One, beckourangness divergency. Two, be-curangness capacity to be-pickers-cure-octive. Is it's the way to the way? It's about it.

It's about it's like, but emotion that's meantah that's not-in-lawed That's like Like, it's like, But the dangle that's-a-dark, it's then can beiris

with very halus So, and then dis-sajiked with indah Like sashimi Yeah, like that. Yeah, like sashimi That's just, It's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like that's

emotion that's notat, eras. So, so even can't be able to come he marraff. When he wants to make sure, oh, I mean, this is there a person that can make sure that has made me sad. He's already so that he can't be able to do. Oh, like we've seen now in media social. It's very great. So there's a lot of the last.

And there's a lot of the same thing that's making, shearing genus genus Emotusy that are in the world Maya, then they're cumuling until they're in the conclusion that the technology digital with internet and such a lot of the media social that, especially

especially because of technology. Technology is a partak-per-part-a-a-a-cate-a-court. But, more than that, this is a perubboha-a-aday-an. Perubhanesan poohan poohan poohan people then meluap-can-en-lop-emosiness and to give-a-mosy it without disaring. And this, then,

then it's true that's because of the more more than the more than and things that's and that's what you're more make-gracan emotion not, this, this, lot, data.

And, and the person that emotion has been perpicue, the information has been given to emotion, it's really, it's hard to puttimore. Why is a while? It's hard to make sure.

Because the emotion is not terseptuant. This is already from the time philosophic, Yunnani, did be plajari. We're also in tradition of North Carolina, there. Rasa, but if if it's a lot, but if it's a lotmacken, it's not be able toimbangang, so much, so much more.

So, it's about how bigaheakka data. Want to give data like whatever. He, I don't like that.

So, even, if, if, in a country, and this has been

there's been in, where, in, where, people, people, have,

...and, and that is political, aitist, pertimbangangangery is like or not-succa. Pertimangangangany is emotion, not data. Yeah, we've got

in some people. D'amanyan. D'amanypun. So, post-truth, it's since then even, even, science, it,

also, that's, that, there's a lot aliran, aliran and even even about eveningot but but even though but even though

really much and make make sure because there media social and people have been time in media social

I'm seeing phenomena this has beengues people who are very and more than more than you people who's 2nd

that's 3 if you're just if they're predispositions uh quite and it can be that's

because because that's biase cognitive or emotional or noise cognitive or emotional too but

but it'smestin't if they have S2 or S3 Yeah, be filter, bias and noise. That's kind of the handdean, pengadion, that people have got got got glared,

and then he can be critical, but, but the probleming-killed kind of, with galar, it, he only ampeljury things, but

not be-pickir. Burpick, that's not, lying. I'm I'm big but think that's like to and if I'm talking about

that's about people who that's probably because ideology okay we can agree to disagree but but but if if it's more

seeing the unsur POE-Nia that I'm that I'm being wrong this is not ideology this this noise

and bias and bias and it noise and bias, the sameotive, yeah, so if you know, if it's got to be

not able to argument. Sementara, that's important to, to, uh, to, uh,

life, that is, that's about, there's argument. We're gonna be pedant, but, we're,

we're argument, and the, the, the, it's, it's, it's,

But we're but we're about, we're about about because of the other ideology or better principle then it's always a problem

I'm not too because because we're living together that not be used with argument and the

can't beckon this this is the this is the you, we don't put together, we're we're argument

that's can't a a small and to be able to be like that's not quite be very critical and not quite

tundook to put up to status quo to to be to be to I'm

mimpicking that the education we have been able to bring the kids young this up to

get to he brandy to have formasalakhan, this, this is that's about, we're not. We're sure. We're sure. And, for you know,

the matter of the philosophy to teacher can at the level as a reddish, because it's been correlates with peningotation capacity to investigate to the benarance.

Or pre-existing truth that maybe the re-renovation, like that's-re-re-re-reinterpretation, or in whatever. Yeah, if, if there's-scolah, the, many places, like, in the world-negary,

that philosophy, did bring-as-dasar, the way of it. It's even, because of the middle-med-a-mennah, yeah, maybe, school, Yeah.

Yeah. We, we've got, faculty in fact that's quite just a little university, so.

So, I'm not just, I'm not want to say, but, the

partimackal that it important. Now, philosophic is really, I'm, think,

people, and, to be bringing to bebongar what's about about because she's about it's about and with partanical

and with brandy to make partying, it's justro will be more on, oh, so, what I'm what I've been trying is a penapot

people, not, because, but many people talkut, yeah, But there's about There's about toot.

Data, because of the I'm very much of hearty if I'm if you're still about. There's time in Bandung, a lot of people, so much so much, they're making sure about be philosophic, to read text, text philosophat, which is, you know, bahasas of class, a lot of children.

How much? How do you? Oh, that'saer-biasa. Can there's fulovas, yeah, in, the, when it wasaughaned, so it's been in-lawful-media, there, that's one session, or more than one session, that's-an-an-an-an-a-nug-and-merect,

and they're in-tarting, and they can be argument in-sac-sac-sac-a-phys-s, but from perspective and bahasas, Andaitha, philosophic, we've got We've gothurt We've got got We've got got

People think about It's justa-macka Lallu-Rumos-Rumosilogism and so bagu-khani-na But philosophy is It's making Lovicca

Berpickir With very Cermat Soingca Batcha Sataecae Cajas We've got

We're This is there's about Inchievous in Sementara, We're quite Yeah, people are people

people who talk about it's so can't yeah And it can be pertain can

And even can be bad And then then with enakness I'm saying Oh, I'ma

Makhus I'm just I'm demician So, so it's not depand with

the ketaten Logica Wow. I'm very, very, very, I'm going to be around where we can't be able to find out of the potential intersexie on talental with the quacka and Ibu just about about

about penguasa in various in other that kind of not, not, you know,

with what we're what we're asking Now, how, how much to make sure intersexie that's the more optimal between talenta and the powera. Because this is quite global.

I'm looking at it two situations that's quite pretty much. In this, the country that can be aggap or the lembaga

or the company and it's gangy but tibbe I'muncum. You know. Come up and I'm not mucing. That's not

I can't say about the government. And then this is a country that maybe the company

and can't beambah people, peoplemipin who wow. And can be purporting or

menhubhap the members people who can't like chaotic or what. I'm going I'm going to

intersex this is a lothurtigant. This is a lot of serendipitous. There's a result jodotovna, yeah. Yeah,

but if if you're hard enough if it's really, yeah, if not we're going to say,

I know, I'm going to muntip or munching. Or muntik. So, actually, can begin'

What you know, what we're like that. But, yeah, but that's not just people who are the people who have talenta, but also in the talentatine that, he has been integrityitas and have, what, yeah, the power, what, yeah, the power of,

for life and, the beaic. Now, people people who are people who are you to be around in the in the people who are because of the way because of the weather

politic-notic-notic, it's, it's, I'm not going to move, that. That, but not

just enough, only just, only the, with talent, talenta, talent, like that. Dipperluck,

and they'reluck, because, there's a lot of people who actually have been able to become being a

good, and, but people, the society that, it's been done by the time,

about about, the, about, uh, or not or much or much

because of the that's about the it's theopatting. It's certainly opportunity because it's not didcook by the masa that's

what that political. Even in the country like America that very much, did look but if we

move to the area the area that we can be able to people who's people who's like people who are people who are people well, oh, they're not, but but notheracarting around the country and agaqaqa

has been made a commatangance politic. So, what is the important is the commatangan politic. Not only people, people in partay, partay, people, partay, in the partay in partay, but, but the people are you know, gethic a person people. So, whatever that's given iming, iming, and all of it's one of the,

if we're into iming, yeah, agamah, or apalas, and soigua, he can't, he can't, be it. Now, this is, this is a great. It's not quite. Because if it's not quite, but also, uplaughey, there's politic of the way, and sogainting, only jangued, like, just, yeah.

I see, I'm looking at, in different countries, where Common denominator in context coalition, that's not ideology, but more than power sharing. So I'm looking this is a discount. If you're not an ideology, it's not a common denominator.

And I, I'm assuming, that the process politic in Indonesia, isaulogy, but in Indonesia, but in Indonesia, but in other than in Indonesia, common denominator is power. Now, it's a discount for the importance of everyone who's in person, to make sure that meritocracy. Now, this is it's notar, that the consenslexion talenta,

is more based upon patronage and, or loyalty, not meritocracy. It's more than we're hard for more than we're not the decaprable that that's the that's the end upatting. Now, this,

and I'm looking this phenomenon that's too in the negatra magua, but more in the country and regentocracy is always a half

after-ahir- if in in political, because People's about power. Tentousalic, political, because how much more than how much make make up to make sure,

it's put a good-beyeqa-a-a-buyjointed, if not put aquehasaan. So, so-le-kequasaan, it's even there in politics. And this is not bad, but... But butuasahed, but sure, the right-and-hide-can to bea-hub-as-a-same.

Now, but, but-tapy, that's the thing that's kind of the penning, the penning-lompok, which is-utam-cafant. Now, this then then, to make,

demie, so-cad-dem-re-requess. Lull-lop-in-lop-in-lop-lop-in-lop-lop-lop-in-lop-lop-lop-lop-lop-on-in-lon-in-in-in-in-in-in-in. denigisicat. Now, if we've got, in Indonesia, there's not a party opposition, right? It's difficult, like,

there's part of opposition. Padahal, it's important, in a country democracy, it's, there's part of opposition. Because, because all want

to get remah, want to get kuea, in the power. But I can can't use Singapore,

the example, which, where, it's not-existent. There, but it's a little bit, but it's quite. But, that's true. It's notarer. It's notribusically public goods. Seychteran.

Seatant, education, intellect, integrity. And this is manifestation in several metrics. One of the one of the land money asing. Sering, I've been swarcared. And people from the world

to put uprooge because of the sameoogic but because, yeah, it's more than I'm finding out of FDI in the other, ASEAN that's big, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam,

Filipino, Indonesia that's a carerangus to $100 to but Singapore has $19,000. The system works. And I'm not look at the

the peopleimpinpinpinpinpinpinionation it, you know, sub-itomortization it, right? Right, right? They're more, I think, more,

it's the sameat the lemaghanes it's going. Trust, that, yeah, the percciaan it can be sure

if the system the system human's good. And system the system the and people, but still, people who's the right

the law that's that's what we're that's going to be. Now, this is, I've been, I've been a few days in the last time in

reformation, my school, I'm going to give a little penantar, like, I'm, I said, the perjuanation

is a perjointed to beaunitans. impunitaz, impunitas, yeah, or, the people corrupts can, without,

the perusac linguongan that, not to be human, you know, and, like,

and, like, so, people, people, that, the, penanaman

model, misal, yeah, is, bethutal, is that's true, and it's still-as-as-a-lawed so that's-lawed so much

like that like that, only there on the atas-curtas even in the at-curtas even has been many-court-court because of

because of the coalition, negotiations and the other, it's difficult not-sult-so-cally, not-mook- to,

then, And that's It's more It's more than back If you're like Two-five years That's all right That's true

There's actually There, there There, there Many that Yeah, but But, but So, but,

But, the perilaku Orangue In-Dalach What the Hucum as Abus-Apaw-a-paw- if the right, if you can't be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be that's

because talentathing, because talentatine, not because integrityitas, it's hard to make ...lembaghan, the lembagan. Lembaghanes, it's all about good. But, present, it's notepent. This, can, still be partarungan, if in civil society, I'm not ahrin-na, but a little bit better. It's kind of agen and structure.

It's not just structure just, or agent-sage. But this, it's bethue, but it's perturunungan. Agents, again, again agenna, again, you know, with all the same thing political, to be able to be able to. Structurialed up as everything, it's not able.

So, how, you know, is, about, to the mesquite, greeja, wihara, temple, synagogue,

ber doa. Or, how to we can be can get back to beaugh agency yeah,

this is I think I'm in think I'm which I'm which is sadar and brandy make up

and be act to make upp what else to becaping for good-to-for-hainter-per-a-per-a-harmes. Agamah, intersexi-ant-talentah and power, in order for example.

Agamah, but-a-a-i-man-a-a-a-law-a-old. But, we're not-osha-old-a-oh-law-a-law. But, we're not-a-lis-a-lis-lis-lis-lis-lis-lis-a-cest. And that, that's-cli-lis-clet-a-lis-clet-a-lis-lis-lest. that'salbundi-res dislesaiced with the the result of the people who's more salih

but salih with cita-sita to move surga surga urusan nantil but we're we're living in this so percara our part of our

our ownia and precisely in this then it's then we've got the beran people who are people who are to mennucing

We'llessalant we're done with the other than quite quite the agency yeah and the basis of the agency that only only be provided when they're making keyungulant in

the other the end-bidang that the powering it can't putle first in the part of the the endangue

that it's first but not only the unguling deilmuan but also has integrity and civic civic. This is

that's about that's about how carlina I'm not only gita Wiriwian. I'm not. I'm, yeah, is Gita Wiriawan, is Karina,

Amin, Budi and and so bagucus. But I'm live in a country. Kessadarance civic is important. And with

the power of the power of that. I'm I'm a lot of the people I'm about the time of the in the time that to give you,

you're called on how much you're living for all-hull-Besar Atmajoranatusum Lairoa-h-h-lars-all-bash-a-hall-bessar what is all-bessar? All-bessar is more than than your own,

more than the penningan-up the top of the top of the world, how much of the world, so that's it's there's come up. From there, we're here can't people who's sadder, that I can be able to do something that's more. It's just,

and bekechard, and being agent. To be able to be able, he has to be able to make a puttussal. Burrani. No, Pendidicant we're from because of the people.

Pendidiccan we're given with menacut, Nanty, you're going to be ineracut. Taked So, not that. Don't talk.

Don't ever talk. Nanty, yeah, namad, if you're, if you're saying ma'amom.

Mankucoe. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't And the And the same Dima But they're not

What's not? Inta to be able to Not in school or not in But But don't Bohong, like that, like that, like that's like that's like that's like, so that aguilah,

so fargian, be built, from little, like, people, we're not we're talking, we're, we're,

we're, we're, like, and, like, do you, and, we're,

we're not, we're, because, because, I can't be agent. Agent is not afraid. And because he's not because he knows

that's a lot of that's something that's justrored. The fact is justro is that is not be integritas, when he's

when he's curbsy, that it's just there. So there just as values, nilay, nilay, that's a guyang

by a guy. Maybe he's like that. But when it's beenclicer, you know, it's been to beck. Bookingia PAP, People's Action Party in Singapore. That's from chapter

a while, until the end. That's only three kata just, that's the other, that's the same. Competency, integrity, accountability. And that's and it's manifestation

in the things they're doing, then recrutted and then policy, politic, socialization, and, and

we can can, if we're in Singapore, public service it's unbelievably good. And that, and it's

from what's in the part of what they're so they're not mind, man, yeah. This is the person who's but he also has to be integrity and he has to be an acun what he has to do

that he has to do. I want to know, can't. Okay. Conscience and compassion. Wow. Wow, this bachoran for Singapore, now, I'm going to be galing

on the other and then. So I like it. Compassion and conscience. Yeah. Yeah. Laloboration. For the past end of the world that's open like this.

Collaboration. Kershame. Orang people need to be able to doxia. And, but also have compassion, belas-assif to bea-a-sha-a-sha-a-sha-a-a-a-a-a-a-lis-h. The,

Theaidland, because of an un-ajured-because-you-that-pacred, but-that-pac-you-alami. We can't be able to be able to-it-allaping. We know, when we're playing with a friend, ah, ternata, I, come-laping, I'm having a cated-adiland. So, so, so, so I'm notic.

I, I'm always mengunakan Singapore. This, just-gank-dank-dut-n-dut-in-sing-a-tut-tuff. But, I'm not, I'm abys think about about that's been about why not it's not

to tryu-a-as-a-old. And I'm looking at Vietnam to do-laq, the playbook of Singapore. Negara, the country, Timur-Tenau-Tegu Kna, the public-Pek-N-Saudi,

Saudi, and Bahrain after, air-air-in. They're, they're very consultations. But what I've got-in, in here, Singaporea, is the same as well as well-cant-ability, integrity, acuntability, suor-sucur-sucur,

it's mind-conscience and compassion, he, too, can't make make sure it as a intersection penelurant idea. From anywhere, the people, people are you know

about Asia-Tengara who'd be asked the people. The person, Europe, if you want to know about Asia-Tengaria, who'd be asked people. If you're not, if you're not about Asia-Tengaria,

that's in Singapore, nother the other big in Asia-Tengara. Because they're noticulation ide. Now, this, if I'm in terms of something we're going to be we're playing. But they're also

they're very conscious, consciously humble-kerned They're They're like They're like that's They're like that's But they're from

From the country Yeah, right But they're They're talking That's They're being They're There's

Many people Many people People's Welles. Now, we can, we can be learned, and

I'm, and I'm that they're not semptuernal. But, whatever they have done with

And why? Yeah, why is jip-plag. We're always learn from the country any other can't yeah. And Singapore,

that's the other than the position it can't even make, both Singapore or even Indonesia,

it's, same, the country silang-buday, and it's from the time, d'aw-l-

-l-l-l- -sper- like that. One thing I'm, I'm like I thinkerous, but I thinkerick, many people in Indonesia is still

engelam in the same syndrome Indonesia is a country from Newshantara, that's the time of usantara, that's true, that's the rejaan, koregia, it's big. But, malangy, the perasaan that

That's not beisied with with the time. with competency. Evening collaboration that's being in Indonesia gotonged that's wrong, that's kind of puppus, yeah,

for many different kinds of the kind of so. So, we need from the people, the other,

from Malaysia, also, then, and then-mobing what's the good. Tentu, there system

buddhundas, in Indonesia, really different, that's just to make sure it's not, it's always, it's always, make make, and make,

modifications to, and, with the culturean. Now, if we're back to the system peddickan,

even the system pediccanes even from Marouquet, it's, it's been rataken curiculum. It's,

It's to bebella, because of the bigas and the other than but in practice peneragamance it's still there.

Now how we want to make sure miscellar that's got a good thing in the bitang down certain and

then yesuike with local when there there's there's been there penackan that this is that

that is that's that's part of the same Indonesia different it's

it's different and give you and make sure that and make sure with talenta from the area that's and then

give beaversan to make sure I bring a example that very interesting in one in the city in Jakarta

I don't precisely what this is a few years the when they, the Pupatina, it's got to

one's just criteria to that the Bupaternial and it's very not not-tugue criteria it, he said, if

if the abutaten this is menurunking the amount, that's the majuan.

Because what? He's he, he can't be data data from the world from where where he plazari, and he'll see,

Indonesia, which ishous in the Khaasya for the Mata Kemptian Ibu. Ler, and he's making a putusan, this is the criteria utama. For the Kmajuan Khabitaine I'm going, yeah, but the development of infrastructure,

the whole criteriaa. The number of the MAPTCHA Kempartyman, I must be no longer. That's all right. And it, it's to capture Because of what? To be able to bea people, it's not even though,

physical, even the power of the health, even, the people who are in the same, if there's, the time, who's,

while, the same, the way, they can malport to Lura, they'll be there, and then,

he'serick, and, but, and, This isle. This is this is different. It's about to make sure because of the criteria

and they'll be able one. We need to people who people who are creative and brandy I'mka-kmatics can I always say that the most

the most part of we're saying we're saddick the calacaan, careta, and make many corbite, but there

the every time every time of the in Indonesia, because of lifehirt can malayirk kind of peristewalamie. And this is

a criteria of the development. We're biannation to go back. And, it's been able to get a little

but not been able to be able to significant. And this has a decade. not be a decade. For example,

it's tragic. We have been a humanusiaan. But, but, it's a number that is quite

high in Asia. That's that. Now, I mean, so, when we

talk talent, this, this, can't need talenta that

the the people's this not not derogad by the slogans whatever but it's like

it's like sorry back again to Singapore yeah Singapore is that which

and I'matian and I'm and I'm looking and I'malgamations two buddhaasical one buddhist pragmatism

which very around the Ura Aisya and agaerangued for the demaiian. And it's true, can, Dami and stable for 2,000 years. The number of matian because flixie and allan, it's relative redashly,

dibunding can anga in Europe and other. It's, it's, it, that's, not want to be rants one and one.

Yeah, if we can, we can't, we're just, but the sameathe. But the other one other than is a goodyp this, in the Singapore,

if I'm in front of me, I'm inedpankan. Budaer principle, if I think I, correlates with excellence. Yeah, can? So, yeah,

he blot to make make make sure that I want, I want, the, I'm going to, is very quality of the good-notes,

quality-picketing-top-notch, and redistribusiescihcateran also top-notch, and has been integritism, has been abhorhorpeakableness and stuff. That's a lot of agor-agued-a-regor. So, they're more prioritizing the buddhisticum than the buddiscan principle. Now, this, if I think, for me,

educas, because they're not just even more than the gooderpaniarder but amalgamations the buddharesma and the culture of principle. How about? In the whole,

things of the part of the puttusance, especially for the public, you know, I mean, when, there's, there's, the thinking pragmatism that has been made,

Because of the whole, there's there's a lot of people that's about But there's been thing The point in the way that's the way that's Buda Princip, this is how longot epica, how long as longot ideology and other, the partimbangang of bad and

and soaguen't, yeah This is, it's important But we take into example when it's, that's about, but true, partimbinger is pragmatic.

Yeah. Pertimbinger pragmatic that vaccine did comeang down very quick, penguania is very much the end up,

which is the ideal not, but because this is many million yuathe, which is million,

bough, so, it's, it's, it's, and this, the thing people,

and, the way, the way, pragmatic, and, pragmatic, like that in the meantime, in the meantime, a process that'serced that

the principle that's because research is a lot of the way that's sure as a whole lot. In the penhaping of a biggarten a country, the development or perex of a country, I agree with

some things that may be able to be able to bring with And pertimbaughan pragmatic. And pertimbaqatique, it's always is the good good as much

people people. The lemahannes is, then there people people because can be able

people people, the good for the much people. Now, how can't

the people that the people that this, not beapeaked. Now, this is

the thing we're, when we're talking, democrasy Rewkraiseries, we're the same-democracy is, we're notherst, we're not a-your-democracy, the one-sword,

that's-of-the-counter, still need to hear, misalue, melanchot-a-tac-tac-at-catted in-all-polit-a-tac-tac-tac-a-tac-laping, I'm-lap, a certain-cansion, So, so. So I'm really because I think think I'm going to

because of the decedasance political. Now, this is not much, we need to people who use of

our people who, use of our one of the one of the part of particular, and the credosan

to look to look data. And data this, can bearty from technology, from technology,

the public, can, with the world-in-in-pennouement and this is a little bit of us. Ma'af-secally, we're, yeah, there's-buck-as-ha-ha-caged, can't partimbangang-nation, that's lulled, because bison-a-pid-pid-a-pid-pid-a-pid-pac-a.

Now, this, then what's the people's what's what's what's what. Conscience is important, yeah. And compassion is important. Because, because of data data, the result of the same thing, about what most do you've got,

and a person, this can't have one jurang. Because, can, he can't be that just as far. This data illmiya, well, data is it can't makeasil can't beaiccuit. But it's, it's a basicer, but it's a bit of it. But but there's jureng and this is a person

Peoples. Now, jurang this is persis partimbinger, partimbing that's either, and there's compassion, there, there conscience, there's, because the land pemmimpin is a lot of

because he has been able to, and he has put upuant that. It's hard, It's hard, and And it's about about People who's got only but it's been full of with many

inside, or from, Mbacca, or from... Divergency. And belajure from the experience.

I'm going to ask, a bit, a gifting a bit. And what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what's, what? Bhaugia, this is hard. Before we transition to astronomy, after this. Orang, who's, that's, of it.

It's not, it's the thing that, it's the thing. It's the thing that's a lot of, that's a certain thing. That's a certain thing, that's the thing that, but there's a lot of, but there's also. But there's also that's of the virtue, because of the way of the way, like that. Apaka he's been happy because he can't pay hal-all-all-bye in life and

things that are not only only the diringia, but to be part of the people to the other. There are that. But there also that, oh, I'm happya if my hearty, I'm a bit more, or what, that. So, so much of the So it's just to say, yeah, because

it's a question. If I'm a biggia or not, but people, if not, it's difficult, yeah? Yeah. I mean, I say to

my, when you make whatever in life you, if you're not badagia, it's so hard, that's, yeah, and how much

yeah. And how, And how, that's about that's about the time that's about things that's about about for the other people like.

Ampacca people who more can't make-iclas can? Apapotan? People, if you're being a lot of, he's made just,

just up, yeah. Cucup. I'm, I'm happya, so. So, Yeah, because, because of it's right. Because of the right here's there's about it,

but it's not that's not even to be able to be able to be able to make. So, it's not detentucan what is there's. But, whatever that's what's been in there, but from therein'er, he's made, things that are bad and bermakness. This, this, we've got to hearin wacananae Elon Mas

to make a system more multi planetary. Pandanagan I'm gonna. This, yeah,

if he's talking about, yeah, this, it's, it's not, there's extinction

such a massif. So, we have to thinker alternative. but alternatively the planet that's it, that. And that'sha, manisie has been mempick can,

be able to be able to from, maybe if we're think, fixie-in-ilmiahed from the subjabat to 17, 18, 16, before that, yeah. Even Johannes Kepler

pun, menulis, he'd live in a-lis-limate, that's, but, but if we're, we say Jura, this is the same-meree, the place that's the part to build-the-sper-its-per-its-art. Mars, yeah, but

Mars, it, doesn't have condungan oxygen that's just for muck, like, not only manusia, but mhubly, so if, if you're going to move to make some kind of linguongan-hiducinging-hub

that makesil-o-cigene-and-cucing-cucing-cucing. Maybe technology can, But this is something but this is something mahal. what's about to happen to will come up. There's problem of ketimpangans

ketimpang of generation of manusia that can't Mars, a life-namban-reman whatever, yeah, temuan-tem-bour-bour-hut-n-n-bue.

But, then, then, Bumee, that's been being manusia-manusia who underita. So, If I, with

the same planet it, it's alik-alik when it's not because it's a bit more, but it's been a little bit more, but we've got to be able to change the life, so that Bumby it

can't be able to pulle back. Because with gaya life now this, Bumi is as as aalam as well as much as

always can, keep-upac-it-it-a-hocan but, with the gay life-hutas-pluit-sper-it-sper-in, the can-a-lif-nir-nit-nit-nit-er-cult-a-old-cuevac-a-hid. So, if,

not, if, you'll-lach-a-l-lou-moddol-moddil-moddil-moddil-moddil-moddil-moddil-modd-modd-mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. people who have money that's just people who's but then again people who can't belong

punas but also can be as good as much as nature as a lot more because better

because if if it's argument not peruban iklim but it's that's mass extinction

if there asteroid or that we have we have putingiency we we need

we need we But, NASA, NASA, I'm supposed, can't be able to know technology that's current, when, see, can be there benda

that's end-decat, which will beaughan, and then-ricksa to make hancurkut. It's before tibah to be able to bea. Conto, the benda-langit

that's at, at Pardang-Tunguska, yeah, in Rusial. There, many lullubang, Lubang Meteor who's very big, and it's always that's always always be. So, but if you're going to Pindhaping, what's

$8 million? How many? How many people arexia? So, like I, I'm more menduking that NASA-kempankan, yeah, to build technology, for the compoing, to beaception. To be unhingercepsi.

So, so before medecat, di-hurted. And we're batu-but-that-me-a-comet, but we're gonna'uble. The last, the cacredasan artificial. Pandangang of you, how dutopian or dystopian? I don't want to jacetopian,

because artificial intelligence, because of the stardasance, facta, that's a facta, and that's about. So, that's about times,

we're saying, we're doing, we're doing, but we're buttold, but what what will be what will

what will be mounculkan, and justru menank us to asken to make people with them.

They're, they are chippedan I'm because philosophy technology, it's been become four genus' decedarsan mesin, termasuk, one of the one of

that has been a lot of a lot of that'sabotor that's true, buttural there's even we can't

know machine this be think of what that's been level of so, so, yeah, we're taking, we're trying,

it's, it's, it's, we're able, we're, we're, But we're not yet, the whole the riskosy

the work-perjaan, what is that is the same-ahed what is the same thing what is the world, and this is really from the way, so it's not always getting-gallant,

and then the other emosy when it's so it's just it's just recan-kerja-sa- but don't

Don't even to humanusiaan we'll justro, how much of the humanusian we're making matung when it's been partner and to be a man of work work. Not in the arty

be cacab-sacab, but there, can, many things that can't becured on humanusia, because the speed-ter-battas

from being, from the people, it can't be able to be efficient by the cedassardassan But in the Uvalu'll Anis article

That's the A.I. This is a hack Toadaping I'm trying Intuitive Perpicker That while This is

Ouraban we're HAC We've got Evolusies, right? Yeah. Apakka it's alamia or whatever is that is that's

that's right? yeah, we're just that's part of the process for the process evolution to the important. Yeah. Terima, not in the art of

ashras, yeah. Because, this is also technology that's being developed by manusia. Yeah. We're termed in art we're even

we're really that. If we're looking the world, and the world always, the way, but maybe,

but we're still and we're in after the peralat nantin'n't not by technology but by the lompok people who

can't make sure people who are people who, said. So, how much the other other than

then, tetepank can't keepampuance to the technology this that's not on even though people need to make, itself, manusia

can't think technology that's been there can't again. That's, yeah. I'm lookingan there's one, when, during,

when the robot genuptupegant bachel, though, that didn't be able more by menusia. It can be able But, but we're really, but we're

to, to be able to happen to technology, like that. I have put a good idea of manusia, it, always can't pass it technology. If he, buttul, to makebankan

it, not only to be kind of what he can't give-in-allied-to-a-oh-a-a-susil- I've. I have a-hackenance like that's like that's

by the assumption that's just this is more than this is more than this can't be kind of can't evenalika if we're

too peck with the importance to continue to continue to multidisciplinary discussion succour discursus

now this this is a kind of sometimes I'm I'm kind of kind of

more there's individualization to not to doiscusesquist, multi-disciplinar, this is, if I'm in front of us, that can't make uphackan risk, that can't be dystopia.

Yeah. I agree, now this, now, this, not be monodiscipline. Yeah, a pergurant-tingi, can, if, for we talk, if we're doing,

we're curran-tingi and the dembaga research, that's interdiscipline and even though, transdiscipline is even though beyond phoey lintas discipline this because it's about all the things from out of the world, fromness, from society, from business, from, from, from agamma, to make suretivement, to make up to make sure what what we're in here. And in this is the same one thing,

humanusiaan we still take. It's hard. But that's justicantan. It's just a bit of it. It's not something that's made small hearty. Tetan peru cermat, the technology is

just far. Jove more than philisaphat. from theatica, that's always the impact of the impact now, this is that need to becky the people,

you know, the new one of the technology. Ilmo and technology is a basis to beamomomom the world. So,

it's also to bequassai with ungul, but soxas, that'sh, and

l'ucusi, emotion, yeah, that's being. Wow. Yeah, it's too ideal maybe, yeah. Mimpy. I can't be

mowbril four-jab, we've been, we've been two-jamb. Asick very. But I know you have to go. Yeah. Thank you,

Thank you. It's the time. Many thank you. It's just to be room. Semulagug, but it's all right. Santee. We're going to be. We're going to be able to have a chance.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Tumant, that's, I'm going to be Shoebhi, a descend in STF, a person, a person who's amazing.

Thank you. This is an endgame.