Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Kesempatan Emas UMKM | #Endgame ft. Sandiaga Uno (Part 2)

Episode Date: August 28, 2020

Tersembunyi di balik batu sandungan Covid-19, ada berbagai karunia Tuhan untuk para pelaku UMKM Indonesia: tenun kebangsaan yang sangat erat, pasar yang besar, kreativitas para talentanya, hingga lajunya penetrasi teknologi. Bisakah batu sandungan menjadi batu loncatan?

And since the Pell Press that yearplas, bro, bro. I got to have a jobless, bro. This is NG. Okay, Sen, I want to ask you about how you glutti in something you're really, passionate,

that in your career professional but, after this, if I'm thinking, you're being, what, yeah, philanthropy, but more than about humanist. You make

relawan or group relawan that's many people who are working with, what, the COVID-19, making rapid testing. Talk about it. So, yeah, natural just.

So, we can't COVID that in the in the month February, and since the press the last, that I was jobless, bro. You know, I've got to have a job-less, okay, rating, and I'm going. Yeah.

So, I was at the crossroad. I'm going to come to where, but, after I'm going to go and with with the friends, friends, I've got to putes in, you know, that I'm going to be in the time of the community,

how much the way of the contribution. Now, one I've been first time is, group relawan. Because I have a few people, for the UMKM, for the UMP, for youth unemployment,

there's startup now. Now, this, that's been able to be There's beencana like Palu, to 2018, this is how to how to get back. We're going to build group reliant with with the people from lintas sector, there from TNI, Polri, from pensionan,

yeah, and from the world ofusah, all, we're going, we'll get back, and then, not long, then, bencana banjure in Jakarta, then there's beencana other than other than in Bantan. And, tibah, COVID, that's actually

in a lot of the same-simple-simple-relawan. This, we want to begapung, we want to be-gabung, we want to be-gabung. But because this is lintas profession, lintas organization, lintas-pend-pend-pend-pund-cung. When I'dir-dir-during,

the people only, people were the people-pubed and pil-pressed. But when, 2019, the people from the who's the long as well be a badap, and even come. I want to be able to go and I'm going to be a new coalition front-name-in-lawan

Indonesia is one, because our COVID-19, we have to be one. And I identify with five clusters the main that we're going to be able to the medical health care of the

that, APD, bagi-bagging maskers, also hand sanitizer that we've done, we've done classer the

classer the two, I'll get that economy this will be hit big time. So we're that's going to be donation from the samebaco

orpantuan-tunay, bea-sissuah, belangiae, that's for jarring the un-coma-m, that's the garing-pengamance social. Then, classar the third-a-thewaned-thes. Moulay, like, we're just working-cras-nublished-in-Uang to gaud-R-based testing with mobile unit in the zones of the red. Trenata, what's other than

is in socialization and education. I think we're trying to to just prosocialization and education. And, the last, with the friends, to beajack to clilling from communities communities

to do contamination. So that's airstectan and this is in this is we're doing in 3rd, in 3rd, but the focus in the zone of

the area, in 8 provinces, So, so, I also, I also, I think we had, we had a lot of the people, maybe, also, also, like, bad in the kind of, but yeah, because,

digulirin' just, and we're all along with bough, we can, now, we're almost 100,000, packet sembaco, and, it's almost 50,000, testing that we've done

and we've done, 10,000 masks, we've been, APD's already, now there's more than there's a problem two, the people say, hey, yeah, I'm going to be able to ventilator.

Oh, do you know, adieu. I've said, I mean, but then we're gagas some initiatives, I'm kind of, get, GED, that, GED, that, that's the best of humanuaniaan, to come out when a crisis this crisis this. Yeah, true.

I'm very blessed, I'm very blessed, very much more than optimist in this, our national fabric, so tenun our country's-a-banks-oing-a-souli-loultie, there's just, there's from where, this, this, this, and they're gawed it, you're all, no, no, I'm not, I juster,

if this is this is the money from, from from from from participations. Justro, I want to be there participations public to, um, to help our people who are that's intimpam musibah. And I'm not only they're that's called because cause-neigh, but I think it's because of the

you. And you, like, you're in there to be, to be what, you, to make, or make people to be a common cause. Yeah, right? And I'm going to look at all right,

on the off-line, on how much testing. Yeah, right? Dool, when, was 400 per 1,000 per 1,000, now, now, over 1,000 per 1,000. Yeah, Mike. But I'm sure, this correlations is there with a action you that, maybe, in your,

but, in my, I, good. This is not around to have the publican and the and that's not too. Now that's, you need to know that man. It's good for you. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm, because it's already, it's been, and I'm going to be a bigan and I'm going to get how we can inspire. Because, can, So, we're really small,

is quite little, like what's what's in what we're but what I'm the most motivation is if there's a man, name's Andri Surianabulu in Makasar, he looked at our Giacarta, then he had humonging, he said, "'Bang, I also want and to be with the other than what's

what the punduant. And we're justerackan this template our, and somewain, is majority of 80% participation of the and this is true on in Makasar. It's also,

it's also, on, here in Majal Enga. So, that's that's that that I'm making that I'm that if all of

people think of like that. Oh, great. Yeah, bangsa this can't go to COVID, and we can – yeah, it's just quickly, you can't, be able to ask you

about the government? It's about COVID this. What's what's what's kind, what's maybe kind of

perpoo. I, too, I, too, I've got active in politics. I've got the PEPU is underpheed the politics of it. Yeah, you know, it's all right,

but this, this, this, the purses, it's always omnipresent, so I'm surprised, that in a very, that in a very, very, and, the PEPT,

it can be able to Now, I'm who I've got to say, I've got to have ever with you, off-line, that, that's not to be it with executions. The big, can we want to quick and big, and if you're going to look at you, actually, really, really,

yeah, we're not up to our gnat our people. Yeah, we're going to un-waping the number almost trillion-leon-le-le-d-d-due, there's who, there's who, there's who, this, this, I was hallucinacy, but I was going to go back to comment, but I'm playing that maybe we're going to be able to be able to do so accurate. Yeah, but I'm not going to execute, but per-day-in-a-lawful-day-you-lawleaping,

even though, even though there's penguomen that penurapingeraping more but more people, but more than we're as usual, like, you know. Why? Why business as usual? But all the business is unusual. Right. You,

I'm not going to talk with you, because you've been in the government. And I also in the Permanentan. And this But the time of my, not retroactive, yeah? Yeah, not retroactive,

not. This is in you, but it's just in goa, Like that, if you're not even though trailblazing, you're trying to, waddle-boggresive really, want to beauched to you, that's not going to get to you,

I, too, when in balaicota, it's up to agate-cate-sendary-sindered, getting responded that's slow, I'm going to be work and how much how much inspirations bureaucracy to move to move quick,

people think about if you can't do you're doing work in, what do you're doing more than what? There's more than it can't be permudah that.

Now, like this is, now the top leader now, but in the bottom of the behind it, can be rejik, so, you know, I mean,

if they're, if they're, Why? I'ma. I'ma'uong with one of the RASUD in the area

he's made help from Ralean Indonesia Bresat and I said there's there's done there's

you've given to be given with President yeah but but but guidelines

or panduant panduan is very with what we can so, so that's the part of the price that's $100,

so we can't buy, how much, how can't. So, how things simple like that. No, not be able to be, but it's, but you need to look meja this, adjo, so,

so, so, so, the things that, the thing that's it's been made up, it's the execution is lamban. Now, after in the Ghebrake-kebrac in the

matter, but we'll get, but we're going to bea-and-a-li-li-like, but I'm just optimistic, if, if all the

people are this one big one big action that this is to be execucused with the it is in the right direction.

From the speed it is very, very disappointing. I'm, I'm quite quite quite quite. Mm-hmm. Yeah, can? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmmmantalism. But this is the dasha'atant permasalahanness. This, not a little,

not the cremantalism will not get us to the right place. That's what I'm afraid to do. And incrementalism is very bad because it removes the big picture. So we, so, we're, just so just going to be it, then adjusts,

we're just to move, must be flexible, but we also have to one commitment to the there's been a lot of the

so that's just like COVID-19-19-you-you-law you must take-ken the number of infections. Gets, how much the way not economically even if you're not being popular, but must be able to putusan that. And, yeah, leadership, the end of the so, so, so. And this is what we are lacking.

Globally, with in a kind of not having global leaders that emerged, that's unite, and and all the other than Indonesia's, it's still more than the President, a government-governer-go-go-do-nure-cure-curemuck-firm in positions, so, you just we're able to accelerate just adoption from measures that need this.

Yeah. I, I, I, I think, if there's either because of people or process. But if people, but if you're people, but if you're making process, that's the people. Yeah, right? So it's just to make we're

more jago be alasan, rather than to be a solution. Yeah. And that, I, I, I, I still be a better than better than, that's the other, UK.M.

You want to talk about this? I stumbled upon UMKM. To UMKM, yeah, UMKM because the majority of the micro. So, when I started ushasa, and, after in P. I was started to do with uphack, I'm going to do with uproquembang, and then,

to, associations of the industry ofusia, tibatiabu, I'm know with Bu Evarianti Hutapea D.

Dulu, and he the one first, I'm from with UMKM and when we two, we interred

to Pah Hidahat, when we came in mainstream UKM because UKM was important It's important, but jargon, so jargon, jargon,

politic, then the government uh, mingurus, not policy, policy, and when we're not going to

to the public sector we said, okay, like, in the at KADD, we started on

one roadmap to the of the time in the 2004, okay, So you've got it in the time. You've got to that.

So that's it's in love, then I fell in love. I saw that these people, 99% of usahe that population is their UMKM. At that, they were 30,000, 32, juts, jubla, unit usahann. Then, 95%, now, 97%, And the work is they're

that's in the and contribution to the economy that's at least 50% now, but but they're not never made

get puttackan sentuhan from the government but just from the world but also from the world ofusah do you do with the

and I'm still remember very when I'm still in Astra, Paul William, Surajaya said that in back the group Astra there are 60,000 UMKM that not only

gurnoicing, not only garrusing cleaning service, but they're in process production, in value creation, every single product and services of

Astra. So, then, then, it's just we're getting serious in and the more turn to get used, I'm making

amazed that they're very strong they're having passion that in working in the economy

and finally at the time 2005 I was I'm I'm here I'm hearing I'm orientations

that I'm UMKM So this this has been Not yet there in HEMI? In the time, it was before I, before I,

also, when that was Latvia, he also got, but at that we're not mainstreamed

UMKM this. Now, now, I'm going , I think, start-up- -up-ne-

-up-ne-staling-up just scaling-up up-in-in-in- this is not U-MKKMKMKMKM. You look at this, UKM, it's up, UKM and modest, and with sentuhan bootst, palathing,

and they become like this, so, so, so, so, so it's become like this, and if it's more, that's more than the process mentoring, meloing, meloeses of the past, the perinioning that beermuda, policy that's also be able to be it, hey, we have to

really big potensiness to be be be coming. I, I, I, I, I, I, people are people are not. Exactly. Yeah, right? Now, this, if you, from the from the biggarten, especially for UKM or UMKM,

what, to universalize opportunities? For universalize opportunities, Because we're, actually, God has been very, very generous. For us, for Indonesia, we're, the same, $270,000, sumberdaya melimpa, sum of the energy manusia, it's really,

heabat, and it's also, we can also can also be able to so. So, if I look, there, universalize the opportunities. There's, there's three things, I think, how you improve

access to, you know, if you're going to, oh, yeah, but permodalance is a If it's hard, for me, what's the most important is knowledge and skill set. So, in many-matteringinging is, it's from with the training. So we're very good. So it's... So that we're doing, and it's one packet, with pendampingan. So, so with the power and penampingan.

So that, with the the other than the power of the and thempingan, that's the other, not just, don't talk about the model, we talk about opportunities, the pastar-na,

that's access to market. Now, this is two things that's very, very important. First, how you gain access to marketplace? The two, how do you get prerequisite to be a market place, so it's a big, big role. Now, this is the government of the K.I.

When I'm at Pemprov, D.K.I. I'm not to think I'm not until a year I was in there, but in the boulan, but I always grendenging my bureaucracy to help to help regulate regulation, people can start in the room So starting in your own garage, like the American Dream,

that's all from the room's own. Steve jobs. D.D.I. that, oh, this, this, this, you know, this, this, now, there's an issue micro-kechil that in the time 45 minutes, we can get to get it.

Now, that, that, you also, you also, you're in the government of the PTSP? Yeah, with PTSP. And then, And then, it's the access to the last, the access to capital.

But, before you need to have the access to capital, you need to have the access to have the access to have the money, maybe because of my background I'm accounting, yeah. So I said, you want to mienem you, must have to have certain, so you can present.

Now, this, with the digital technology, with the accounting system that's available online. online. You like to mention the world accounting. Yeah. That subliminal passion. So, that's what is needed after that, access permodalance. And not

not everyone can't be able to beaupraising simpan-pinsam, perusan Pentec, current. So, at the end of the same, is the access permodalan. And with that, I've got looked like the place that we're here, this is a product

from bootstrapping to get access to Visi. That's kind of at the end. It's right. It's been like melewate the cyclos that. Yeah. But I look, I'm just too,

that from beckoning, from the side of peddickan, yeah, right? But I, I also not can't remehkan inclusion towangan. Yeah,

You have you got in inclusion of Indonesia? Now, can, yeah, d'bunding the other than the other than we're kind of a lot of, right, right? Justru, renda, and this is that I terenew, when I was... ...when, right,

in 2009, I got a time to be to be taken by the Nobel laureate, Professor Muhammad University, and we're going to be there. In the same, exposure visits, where they'd just the concept of the program that's about two mingue, but that's the first one, but the first one, he said, okay, anybody from,

to be able to say, then I'm, I'm going to, this, D'A, this. D' D'Aka. Okay, I lived there for two years. In D'u-kid-kid. No kidding.

How many-a? I'm about it. I'm not to be back again. Oh, wow to 2009. Come me out. I'm out. I'm abys India, too. From Bangladesh, India, three-torn.

Sorry, I cut you off. But Daka, that's amazing, boss. Now, paradiso. You know, you've been back in 2008, like how much? I, when, that time 2009, just, bingung, like, that. It's already, bro. It's already.

Paradiso? Wow. Anyway, in the session but in 2009, I'm in Kedaka also, I'm not sure, I'm in terms of, you know, I'm in-knit-a-hurted-hap-a-hurted-hurt. I'm in-ginted-hap-a-hurted-a-hurt. When, there was,

Bintang-Lim-Lam, but it's put-in-Bank. So, yeah, like, hotel, but class melati, I, I remember, I'm gonna be back, he turned, oh, t'-l. I look, there's what, there's a lot, in the top of the in the top of the

But anyway, when I got from Indonesia I said, you know what? Concept this is it was about from Indonesia, so he was in the 70-an

went to Indonesia, and, well, we're advanced in the time in the

but what happened, I'm not until now, financial inclusion we're Now, now, we have a chance with the digitalization.

Now, this is the time we're going to check. How about that? How about that? How about it? Yeah, I mean, again, we're about kind of buntu buntu like this, tibbuttipo, boom. Technology digital, to us, revolution of industry, 4.0.

And, then, we told, how much, Gaptek, right, right, right. Now, now, y'gap my, Hew, Bex, bro. I've got a TikTok. There's a lot of TikTok. There's, weh, Bex, he, back in Zoom, with Microsoft Teams.

Bocap my, umur 85, very, he's very, he's very, he's been from, from, from the marketplace, even, yeah,

yeah, can, uh, can't, he, not have been with, they've, who,

who, who, Lulusan, that's the strata can operate. So if we use technology with good, yeah, financial inclusion is

we can see a lot, we can solution. So if they are not careful, these banks will become dinosaurs. They will be leapfrog by the companies from the company who's acting like a bank, who providing financial assistance

to people at the bottom of the pyramid. Dinosaurs or not, naddhant is optimist on digitalization? Oh, if they will even become bigger, much bigger. But if they're not pivot, they'll perish. Now, so you'll look at there exponentiality, no.

There's been a lot of the U.M.M.K. This is, whiz-hung, hockistic, It's really, so this is inflection point here, kind of, right now, to the other. Okay. Now, now, if we can't look at 125, jute, the people who are working in UMKM, can? Give and take.

And if inclusion co-wangen, and then, the bigi-briacquellan, and the things more great, I'll get the past the time in the where, maybe, of the powering, but the quality of the energy of the next five to ten years? Now, do you see that happening in the next five to ten years?

It's happening even today. It's already. It's been a lot of work that's can't with digitalization. COVID-19-in, this, many people are going to be adaptataping with situations that's kind of,

realization from situation So many who are do, do be hard, but, but it's not but, in-baling, these, there are, one or two-called lipat the land-calfa-worked and

quality-quality that's so UMKM-in-in-in-in-in-in-a-transformation. They're going to in sectors-covid winners, yeah, like food, and the issue that's with the big unstoppable trend,

like longevity, it's, can, and this will be able and this will come up the pluang of work, but from the entertainment, um, laparer of the five-tawn that there's,

there's, the name of the, the, Now there's the influencer, there's a YouTuber, can be monetize. Yeah. Taddyed we're going to

about some of our friends like Woewe, that's not a jute-a-oh-a-oh. Yeah, not-cap-pickickered two years ago there, there lapangan perjian

like that. So I'm optimistic. I'm really optimistic. Okay, you've mentioned pitfall for the problem with pitfall to deal with the PM. I want to try correlations,

in COVID-19 with UMKM. The other, or, the other, there are some of people of the people who are not be helped. And we've got to be done with a crisis, 2008, 2008, where resiliency U.MKM is to beaute. But now, again, now, because of the SBB.

I'm not too fatalistic, in the art of the case, this is a permanent impairment or plumpuahan permanent, ter-caid some people-usahed UMKM. That's fair, is it? So, very fair, and...

This is there are several tapasance, yeah. On the topan, they're in the first one they're mantape, they're making tabungan. Because ompset, turun rasis, the people were trying to try to hold, they're not PHK, they're who have 20 people, that they're trying to be able to

and, and the abungance. Now, they're going to to permanent impairment, or or people we have who's people who's

plumpuwhan is at least they're in the same they're they're also the asset productiv of

their to to to be clangung clangung clangung and this

will be that will be but this is it mustiness become a to be much-cru,

accelerative, and strategic from the government, that we can't, okay, anecdotal, one, two, can, like, so, but not be, systemic, until all UMKM, after the UMKM, that's in the UMKM-U-M-KM-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in

between, the 7-7-2, was UMKM-M-in that tangue, tullang-ung, They're not being just as long as this. They're back. They're being in the rondea part of this.

Cresiant. In crisis, this. Now, some of them are who are, naturally, fighter, they're pivot, they try. This, this, actually,

like, Busry, that's the daggangamun's, t'n't not can't do you because PSPP, when he'd

and they've been, they've got thempon-em-em-n-pon-y, now, he's-cual, om-setset three-lipat. There's also, anecdotal, like this. So, the key from us is, to be inhinking your

and, so you not be fatalistic. The question of us. The question we're together about, we're just to identify

the right plan, executions, and So I'm as fast as possible, bring the cash to the people, bring the cash to UMKM. Gase the money that's in the kongueck. If in the can'tong their, they're going to consummysy, and that's just one of the only way to, to be able to pute from pandemic this.

And the principle, the economy in Indonesia, is consumption, Sox, so much more you can't be able to turncansom-sos, the more we can't, and you'll look, realization Bansos, still not optimal, right?

Realization OMKM, still more optimal. But I'm still have a panangang this, it's a kind of can't be able to beaupah in some of the other

in some of it. That's... It's... It's... It's not... It's not can't be hindering, it's like we can,

we can design to not be that if we're getting back. Because now, we're not in this. There's been a lot of there's some

sector that will be able to be able to,