Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - M. Quraish Shihab : Akui Perbedaan, tapi Cari Persamaan

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Menyambut bulan suci Ramadhan 2026, Endgame kembali menghadirkan Bapak M. Quraish Shihab untuk menebar pesan-pesan kebersamaan dan perdamaian.Episode ini membahas pentingnya mencari titik temu perbedaan dari berbagai keragaman agama dunia.#Endgame #GitaWirjawan #QuraishShihab------------------Buku yang saya tulis, ‘What It Takes: Southeast Asia’, sekarang sudah tersedia dalam Bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris. Dapatkan di sini:https://books.endgame.idSudah baca? Tinggalkan review-mu di sini:  / what-it-takes  

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pa, di-interpretatisical this, this, this, and I'mpersemaking a concept of aagamane

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bad-pap-pac if you if you don't packer in the because That's, I often, I ask you to make

make upment three agamacomac, where Buddha? Yeah. Where Confucius? Hindu. Where Hindu? Yeah. Don't we

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today this is a for the I'm for my Abi Kureh Shihab that's the endgame for the two

times. Abqqq, thank you very. Thank you. I'm going to belajad about Abi

about... Don't say Belajar. We're telling we're telling we're saying about the intinioning

three agamah which Udaism Nasrani and Islam that ber-a-car from the sotok,

I'm Abrahim Salah wasalam which six years long ago under

undern't ajaran and certainly this is there's manifestas or

erjavant in the Nabi Musa which which which

that's making the 10 commandments about 1,000 10 and ajaran ajaran it is interpretatis

by the people who are from a thousand of from a thousand from Masehi terwit in the toulisan that's as a Torah Lantas, Tentas,

at the start or at all muller millennium first Millennium first, Nabi Isha, it's, it's, and, that's been

written by people in the Bible Injil. And, about 1,400 years ago, Nabi Muhammad,

Salalalha al-salam, it, is, the word of God, by the Malika Jibril, to give

ajaran, But, but what I'm maybe I want think I'm about

the three agamah to be anut to the God that

God Mahmah Rahmah God we can be saying God

that but but there's there's perbeda in the

sifat Sifat, Tuhan, it, in order each each. Because that, if we talk about the

Prophet I'm and the same thing, all are to make about the Bariem. But, if we,

if we're also, the Quran, in a textual and in a fact, it's,

that it's that Abraham is not Yehudi, not Nasari. Because Yihudi and Serani, it's

birthed as soon Ibrahim. How can be able yeah can? Ah,

that's one. Everyone say that that's that God Mahakwasa, Mahasah.

But, what what I'm what? Theesan yeah. Ah, this is

there, there Interpretation on the agamacem even interpretation that by the

packer, the paras different each one of one and other other. Like we in Indonesia.

All we we're making the goduannan Yama Esa. But, the keyakinan people Christian

better with Islam. Yeah. Kiyakinan people, Buddha, people, people,

this, beda with Islam. Bede than Christian. But we all of the world. In the realm of

there is a God which has been giving bimbingan agamac to people who manusia masing massing

melooie the nabi that God utus then we're we're making what we're making what that

what can't what can't the people and the nabbi or utusan, utusan, up to us, I think that. So, really, the principle of,

there's a lot of, but it's in a time we're saying, that we're acuing, that there's perbedaan. Why, manusia, it's, a lot of course more to a perbedaan

thaning can the samean between three agamant the other. One thing, we did, we can't be hindering perbedaan.

Yeah. That, if, if, if, if in Jowan Islam, tinjewan al-Quran, it's denatakan, that God, I've been boughed. I, I, I,

I've ever read one book, he said, in the world in, in, life, there's a same.

All are different. One, one, with dawn with the two, it's,

it's, it's, T. Tuan mended we have to be better. Termsue different agamah, Tumach.

The kind of context of beda agamac is, because we're giving upal, we're giving budaia, we're giving

the cedrungungan. Perbidia in context social, we need to because if all kind of there,

you know, if all, if all, if all, if all, when gethue people, people,

there's, there's a Perbedaan. Now, in context there's perbedaan that

there's unctunan. Mastings each each religion means, in person,

in interpreting that, there's also, there's other per beda.

So, so, there's not can be hindary. We're need to try to

make puttomunk per If we don't get metemokan we, we're trying to how we're having to beape per-beidae it. I'm not sure that's per-beadaan.

Even diversitas. That is an insure that's kind of, but I also, kind of, I think that, say, per-be-a-puped in the environment that toxic,

it can make upwark a situation that's not a lot of this is there's got to infrastructure

yeah and, the end upbidavent. Now, the end, I'm going I'm agate I'm ague

to bepickir that the environment that there to makebina the betteran that's not soberkenan

like we think that I'm going to. I think I think it's right, we're we have we're going

we're we're we're if we're if we're if we're if in Islam in

the in the al-Quran it there there there's there

we're Muhammad a ajaral to find to find we

we're we we're we don't get put people don't

there's there mean we're we're we're we're without

to make orbank the keyhakenan our and to unerbancan and without

things of the that if you don't not, yank the

people can't cause if there but that's that the same the same

the world if the t'emu that is that is about Yeah, right? So, we have very be happy-haty.

This, if I see, umat Mabach, apak, is Torah, Injil, Quran, Tentunuch

Torah, there is Dampingan that name, Talmud. If umat Christian, there are

that, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Islam also, many can be argumentation denominations. They're making a kitap suci, but interpretation

can be different. Now, Sring-kali, we can't make bedack what what that with what

literate. Yeah. Literate or literacy it's it's the more it's more

more than not just themb B, C but the arti A is what arty B

what? How much Abikourash for we can't make up there's there

there's there there's there and from or from literate and how

to make making it literacy if if if I have

in Islam there principles that we're that we're that we're not going to be

longar to be there. There also tuntunan that even can

be inund uniqued interpretations. Because that, because that, because

that, the the good, in things, there's different,

I'm I'm, I'm I'm the 10 is, how,

and more, Tampas 0, 9, 1. Gajah that's binatang

what? Beasar. Bealal. Yeah. All right. If we we're going to get in

rinsia. But, but don't be a gajah that's binatang that can

beinat that's in fact. In the, there are principles that's

that's been spakati by the the people that this principle that'sar we're, we're in Islam Tuhan Mahalessa

not been and not be per-anak that, that's principle Muhammad is Nabi he is he can

give interpretation that of many such a there, there, there that there There's this, there is, there is an interpretation

that's in a certain mass as well as with the development of the culture. If it's better, this is that

this is that we're going to we're going to rinsip that's the principle that has disfacati that that's

principle the principle dasar. We're the principle d'uhan, then Muhammad Nabi Yeah,

right? There Malikat God. Tuhan Muthan Muthucus Nabi Muhammad Nabi

terachil that kind of principles principle principle basic that'sar. It's

being to be actually make up the religion in Christian also

there's there there there principles principles there now

how we how much we can we In this, this is here, there's tolerancy.

I'm sorry. I can't make makesacken to my that you have you in this in a person that is in

what is about what is I, like, I, I can't make a man, you know,

to dockern. He wants to music, that's, that's right He, the child my

my name my I can be a shard not he's saying, this is

the shard about if he if they may be and I think that that I'mgap

that it not be not been against and why I have but this is

there is there there if if if in the case I'm

in Najua with Kakakak Hec-c-c-a-ckel-kak-a-gillab, Najua, not. Yeah, I can't, I can't beckxed.

Because, because there's people who can't be able to. Now, the problem, we need to make-mackack-

and the and the more than, that's-s-mud- -sug-s-s-muller I've had, what, the, what, the name-name,

I don't want to say antipati, there's there's there's that's that I'm

giving idea. I should cannot be I'm, I'm sure I'm. What I'm that's

that's there is this is, but, but it's but it's true, the truth,

that's true, that's, I'm, now, I'm going to be observation I'm going to

to be theologian. This is it's even if you're just, even, or absoluteist or absolute. But, this is real good,

it's different with sociology. Now, apaca this can be correlations or a gembatan that's quite

between sociology and theology, this can be correlations with the education, massaract luas.

which maybe just incapacitance to interpretation with the interpublica and quality

semestinia. The question is how much the interbukhaan it? Yeah, right? Is it?

Is it can't makeitabatkan pelangaran to the principles principles of the

law or not? Come back again again. It's, So, F,

...somewares, while he toulous with agam he can be a lot of I'm not under the

principles, principles, principles of the principle of the fact, can't be under the

law, and keyakina I. I want to be a example, I want, straight to the

point. This is, can be, can't be, Does it whether or nother, panguagam and agamma this

be ailing not bettencard. Padahal, in ajaran there's there that is a lot of

not? How? Solution that's given by the other? Apakakia we're

able the agamacah that? We're only ambil that we have been spakati,

that we We don't even say to be gone just We don't know. What we're going to. If we're going to, if we're going to, if we're giving

what name a solution. He's saying this. There are things that we have set uphati with us.

In this, Al Quran says, Wahy Muhammad, ajarah They're They're working

Samalah in Kabah Thawan Wahalbirw Thakwa Don't bekerjsa in dosa

and curgookan Let's Let's try What's What's Whatke We're

We're We're We're We're We're We're We're We're

We're We're It's It's It's Let's What? What?

What? What? What? Theosososan? Can't Bekerjusam? If you want to mend indones, I will be with together

with anyone. With anyone, if you're good-ahead-a-huh. If you're doing the good-one, no way. I don't know.

And then, the second, that's the one that's the we're better. There's perbeda. There's perbeda. Orang Christian

were kind of this. The person islam is like this. The person is like this, the other people are

people, let's try titanum, we can't be able to not be Islam in context

the Mahasah with Christen. Who is who who who is if you if you

if you ask I'm saying I'm I'm I'm and I'm but I'm

the other of the other That's not. That's it. That's about it. Back on, if we if we can't,

I've got to be, I've got to do Murtat, I'm saying, I'm saying, in the context of human-an-an-anusia, antar umat beragama,

you can be back can be said you, and be you can't be you who, may just, Let's let's take-and-putusance in the day the time.

If we're going to be together. Now, let's get together in context what we can't work together. That's a solution. What is it's not. If you're not, if you're not, sure. So, so. So, don't patsakan

persatuan. Don't patshaken perdamaean. not atas not as the name damas this

this is that's what's that's I'm I'm I'm back

to literacy yeah misconcepts misperseps misperse miscommunication this

this can be punkier but maybe that's a quite structural and

think that in context Indonesia to make a quality interpretation so I'm musty

we need to make make sikap and langka to make the quality quality kind of

this this Rueue data on the Rata Rata RU in Indonesia which Mugininin

like sub-per-Q in Rata Rata RU in Naga Tata-Tangga or in in the place else

that's that that's a lot of we're going to focus can so we're

in the end of the end day or in long, can't make a quality of

interpretations, so-s- sure, more there get-buk- I'm- I'm- I'm-

all, all things, and in hall, termasue do you, need to

give interpretation bar. That's one. But that Taddy, there one of the principle. Mucko add up to the interpretation

and then, we're not. We're not. We're not. But, but the problem is, if there's charat that's the right that's the doctor

in the field health can't be able to bring interpretation to be economy? Or, the possibility is wrong,

he? Comunquinane is wrong. So, so much there ailine. I'm

not going to bring interpretation to be the question. I don't that's that's

the way to the way, so much. Now, the , part,

so many people Islam can be there's thereplac that may be

interpretation to the subject such that's the He didn't know the language. He didn't know

the story of the, he's not, even, interpretation we're having something, can disallow-fahomie interpretation

that is all the person who not even and then there's one one other in context interpretation this.

Apaka interpretation that only is only there's to put on text or has to look

context? Apaka when we look context, I have to be reparticant who's

one of one, you know, problem our we, frequently we're

just we have been interpretation without to see what I who you saying

that's one one one one in calangan cendikiawan

Muslim It's, and I'mauntalists. Tid not jarang be given interpretation the mucadimah

this is good so, tibut, the backgant. So, I should have hearty-hatie.

If I'm straight to the point again, but, I'm, what, the name, Abrahamic religion,

that? That's that, who's who's just tootus can. More we're more, this like, I'm just up to come to to come. Trump,

with the way of the what is, what, the way, the one, the way, board of peace. Critic Spanish,

what, why? Why not not include Palestine? So, there's political,

mutel. Palestine, I have, I'm, with Spanish. Critic, before I before I bach

what what is usulkan, I've seen, why this, why this didn't include it? This is

this thing, with the people, and interpretations interpretations that there. This is this is an

abi. Because if I'm not when I'm when I'm Musa, salo'u'lli wasalam that he was

he can't be able to be able to malone structure political or or the people

Nabi Isha Tenten Wavit was that Firaun and kawan kawan Nabi Isha Salah al-A

was-salam also the structure kweh Y'uashan Nabi-Nab Nabi-Maw-Salam Malan Structur

Kukhasaan Kourashan Kira Now, Well, for more more than over

years, yeah, ribbohan years, the end up pergaining, it's always menugangy

motive agamah which is motive political. This is much, manusia, didjumus

in, in interpretation or, that, that's, how, to we can get

from, what, yeah, pembleguan like that. That's Sarjana, Muslim

Ngan menem menemak the peperangan that did or penjahe

that's the pergation that was with a war salip. That not

perang salip. Oh, yeah. It's a perang to rampas

human so, so, umat Christen not, people, people

who are, not, menettuit the stil of sling that, but, agamah

didonging. Agam is very sensitive. Agam the realignan in the in-d-

if you're- usik, ter-usit we. So, so, we're,

we're we're making, we're not, how, how, and,

so, I'm making make make the same, I'll be doing the I'm doing

my name my name my name the principle Islam, lakum di Nuku'll be so

so so Muslim Mism Mubri interpretation to have Christian

Tidu- Not-usah Christian to bring interpretations to have Muslim because

because we're because we can 100% we can we can't we can't thinker emotion we're

when we're thinking we can't think we're making sure 100% keyakiness and the truth

so we're so we can't we can't we can't so let's let's make we make interpretation

so long what what what is what is that's with the needy Nile

as with caedas the the the way of the other

interpretation. If now, pa, you know things different different.

I'm about about about about misconception. Yeah. Sring-kosepsy when iny

that is if we call two people people, we have been three opinion.

Yeah. Misconception about Islam this is the kind of destructive oppressive.

Misconceptsing about Nasrani is they're much as well making judgment to people. What's the ground is this is misconception.

I want to ask two questions. And, I'm going to be misconceptsia what other three agamah this,

which we need and what we need to take to abate misconceptive to be the

uh if not there's misconcepts don't make um

umemukk some concept of a agamane if you don't a aligning

don't makegaken a put a the in the part in the

in the part if you if you don't you don't the

part of the part that yeah the most the

the If you're in Islam, the most of the most of the human, that's one of the one, the A, berkata this, the B, be able to say this, seracant to the al-a-kidhaphn. Nabi Muhammad,

put, be said, I'm notherstah, Mahalya, he'll be able to. He wasulkan, it's, not-cawin-khan,

the, pohoun, pohont, so, by-boa-bue. Not berboa, Saabatner, but if you're going to be that, you're going to be able to be

sure. So, so, so, don't asbun. Ms. Kopsensry is born from here. It's because,

it's because now this, this is the anjurkan, what is it'stihat Jiamai, iqtihat collective. I want to make a personhalsh,

I'm going to, the person, I'm going to, it's, and I'm going to, Then we're muckold. Asbunisasi

or casbunan. Yeah, asbun. This is identical with many countries now, including Indonesia.

I've been several times about about when I'm on the education. If we

see from Sabang to Maroquet 88% from from the people, it's not

put down the S-1. Yeah. This, this quality of the education is more good than SMA. Now,

when a son-an-a-law, he's been in the school, he's been in the guru, who's, the quality is not because the gajiness, if honorer, maybe 500,000 per-bun-

or non-honorer $2.8.00. M. Masting, not, not be able to make on the meja.

Beto. So, soing, the recruits can't with quality that can't with quality, that is to be taken

How we can't melate the kids young in Indonesia to the people to be

more the time the time and the two, there's there's there's

and the three, and the more more than asbonisas yeah. How?

This problem that we don't know at the where the end the end

pankal how a, guru want to before before

before make sure musty good musty sure what he's

what he not time time time the back how

he may make make make material and if

he not not she not if the not

not not not not not if if he

should go and Engage with a lot of the way. Where does it? He'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, he'd, and over,

this, how he can't give him toladanan if he's not, not, not, how, now,

now, it's, not, not, Be able to be, myassizua, more than a student. Cucouser my Cucouss I can

be more than I, Pa. Yeah. Because he's a book, book, this, he's been,

I'm going to, I think, I've discussed with, oh, that's, oh, it's, I'm going to,

yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm, I'm sure with my business my,

she, she's, she's about the, when we're, the, Oh, that, oh, that's, oh,

that's, how we're going to from the docene, from guru, to bring it the best, if we're not,

when we're, sang guru, san, with, situation that can't do you, that's, making it,

to make it so that other can make it. This, this, not, not,

and a personalalant I'm I'm saying that's teaching that's more more than parenting

because a parent or people who be there's with two or three people who are people who are

about about people around or ratusan but but if if you has been

yeah because the there's there can't must be this

this can this can this can't this can't not Not only kecredassan, but carifan.

To arifan. Yeah. Now, this, this, how, abe, about about our people,

if we're not making the form or longca that's that's quite drastic to to make

the quality our our our own our own our own. Memang, I'm I,

I, I, On the other than pertimbangan and the national still still. We're still

also. It's, it. It's, how do you, problem that's quite, ber-kait,

people are people, people, and, not only guru, presuppan for us,

so, the end, the end, part, , pa, Yeah, there's there's

Peningat we're trying to this food Mm-hmm muddh that will

be able to help Mm-hmm Mm-hmm. I'm going about Messiah Messiah.

Yeah. Messia. This Masing, Mastya, this ising Magaism, Nazarani, and Christianity

and Islam percaya. What what is bekethue as a different

about about the about the messia. Persamani that all

manusia should be there is the same is everyone

be able manut key unobin and each and there

there is there but there is there is

there not there not should make Now, how come back again? We're trying titic-temu.

Tidtement. It's not, but we're, not even, uh, ushaha to make-temwka, it,

to be in un-gaining each-a-a-a-l-a-lis-lame as well, not, let's say, anwit-a-mahmoh. We,

we're not in-mahmahmah. We're not in-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-m. in the in the other, we're in humanuania. Because that I think I'm just saying, to make up to make the three agamas

where Buddha, where Confucius? Hindu. Where Hindu? Zoroastrian and other, not only, not the,

Agamahim, not. To be a humanucian. Manusiaan. Maybe one again, I want to try. This can there's keyak

in each different, Mashem of Abrahamik, that Hisah can come back to be. Yeah.

Manelmat can landaic can dunya. That's the problem that umum between Islam, Nasrani and

Judaism. But, there is there is akeal anything in the same thing about the about the

Nabi Isha to be able to make sure. Yeah. If in Islam, he will come to make wukhkaoing ajaran Nabi Muhammad.

In Islam. But that, can, not be taken by... Because there's not bhaeramana, Musa and Issa. Yeah, right? Yeah, right? He can come, memotakhan salib.

He will come be ushaha to make hinderkan from babi. That's, can, Ajaran Islam. I can't beckxacking it. Now,

want, what's, the solution to go just if he come. We'll look we can't

still can't still be just to get if he came to there's Islam, there's

Imam Mahdi that had, that before before much much there's

not quite, there's there, there's, there, there's, we don't, we don't

we don't want to be there because this because this the present that we don't know how how much.

So, so, Issa can come and not either, it's not there's a better

pedant. So, don't, we can't we can't create a problem that can't

we're one. Concept or ajaran about eschatology. Yeah. Apaka

smangettner more to un-attuck manusia? Bukkan themilah. I think yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We're We want to be one in pergaret, unilika, that's what we need, right.

Filsafat our Bansa, we're all right-biasa, I've been comewakhan, in one of one of the I've said,

I'm going to say, this is a borgia. We're in Indonesia, we're, look,

it's pelah in Ambon. How that it? That, that, that, that's, that, that, that's,

that's, that we're that's what we're that we're going tochalking to show us to that we're going to live with damexia and being

different with ajaran and buddhae. We don't need we do back the other than I'm going to bring to the

Board of Peace or the Abrahamic Accord This is betuln't more about Gaza There's there's

there that's the that's that's that's it's that's to make

capacity to make to write or menulis or men think people

Muslim that that's more more than two million manusia

in the planet of this from from the million

of the majority not there's not brand and it's part of

that's part of spiritualization that we have to let's before there's

the case I think yeah yeah uh how yeah

how much yeah problem we're problem we're back back maybe

I'm the agamahmahamant about function of religion why there

extremis because not there because there ummaksa there's slobung

or not reslubing to un-gut because because you know

you're not not want you have you have been agam diph or memaksa

or memxa people but but interpretation but so

so so we we we have we're going with a better than

we're trying to try to see again without merusat principles principles

principles principle one if you if you if I look if I if I'm

if I'm if I'm if I'm what naman this this this concept

Ibrahimic religion is there's upy upy to give penfisiran that

elizu to Islam if if you acut pantangan ulama umat

that there, there there that there that's there that there that there

there I agree. There are upy-upy-upy I'm not too much there's there are

upy upy people who make, the people people who idea this to find pandan,

and, and, and, the, that, the, that, after the

end up the Islam. One of one of that, pa, is,

not, not, not not meru to the pack

but the packer spiritual par par pacar tasawuf semantara

pacar tasawuf it is that all religion that there

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This, pa, by interpretatis it, this, I'm super-samehersamacan some agamah. There, upy-upyah, in context

this, just, the other, the other, the abhorstance and it, and burr-s-a- that's-a-bud-a-bub-a-a-tall-sat-a-a-tac-a-tac-tac-tac-tac-tac-tac-tac-tment-tap-tap-tment-a-tment-ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.

Three, what I mean? Tempatibada. Tempatibada. There, there's upay. It's, there, that, Masdid al-Qaul, for all of each of each other's asing about in it. Yeah, we can, we want, we want,

we want, this, but, but, don't, don't, don't, don't, yeah, we. Yeah. We want, I, I,

one of the one of the one of the one of the people can't say, we'll say

we're going to say that's a lot of better the meaning than that's about I have been many,

people, I've got to say she's up she's up that. She also that I

get to say when I say, that's notal that notal, that, that,

that's, that, I'm, that, I'm, also also know

when they want to say, Salmat Lebaran, slamat puasas the time

and the other than the rest of because we know, we're being we're different but we

want to be one. So, so, so, um, um, uh,

uh, agam abama, Ibrahim or agam, religion, or religious that,

yeah. There, there, there, there, there, there, there,

who's who's not quiteer, this is to make up to make up to make from here, the other one, the other than we can't bece, it's not,

it's not, it's not be able to get riddenyme, Pa. Maybe, more, we can't be more than,

that, with that, with, that's, that's, we don't, we don't, we justa

we go to do this, whileupon sa, solat, we're, sa', sir, pa,

while, but, but, Demi, to meelihara curunan, don't tibulid. You'd bea.

Degundi, do you. Differensiassian, has to be. Yeah. We're together. We're together. We're together. We're both.

We're not, and, co-bersamane as as a-tourunan Adam. Yeah. Adam, yeah?

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. I'm not, I'm not. And, yeah.

And, Keturunan, Nabi, yeah. But, but, Masing, Mastin, there are differentiations. Yeah,

there's, every, masing, and there's, and there's, uh, because, because,

not just to Abraham. Siap. We're from from Adam. Siap. Mawrub. Mawu'll be

more than, we're going, we're going, we're same, same, don't ever if we're,

if we're not, that I'm, that I can manuluked Bumi. that's that's

we're not over we're in with the world with sisir with this we're just we're supposed we're

we're just with human that's that's that's that yeah so if

if there if there we're gonna I'm I've been this I'm when this part of

I'm coming to come I'm gonna I'm gonna I said, I said, I mean, it's not really so, I'm sorry. Princip I'm a high-baid.

That, Tuan mahaban. Princip in Islam, Tuchin, it's very open to make-mafkan the wrong. It's very open.

Tuchin, who, who, that, that, that, that, He's not really, he's ma'a-baic and mahaquoise.

Now, he mangundang we come to the room. There who that's about time, disambut. There who are too long

because of the there that there not want to the Christian want to and the

Islam want to come, the other people, to God. But there can't come.

Will it be Islam that's long as if we're going to if we're if I'm

if I'm and he know I want to meet him but I'm

on I'm disambut or not not that that I have

principle I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm sure I'm

but the that we can't I've been with the God that's the same. I'm sorry-fahom that I think

that's not ber-an-a-don- and, this, can't. Okay, so, yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah,

so, that's, that's the Quran, be said, can be able to be you can't,

you can't be you, can't be that, if, if, if, in,

in, it, more, it, you, you're, not demintapingewaping doas

dosa dosa we don't be made to make repartangunjavit what

you're doing what we're notamai what they're even in heart we that it's

but in context pertemuan this that we have used not there

have consatucing abraham I'm more than Ibrahim Lantas,

interpretation This is this this is this, this is this, this,

but, it's this, this is that this is the and economy.

So, yeah, Bafak more that, that's, Conon. Yeah.

But, this, I want to try to comeank with perkempank geopolitic.

America the U. America's this is making glissar and the more sembrono.

Pandan people and unilateralism this is it's not memortemang and

the and the people people people and what they do they do with

in giving the support that's in the people, this is just make

it's just the fact their or even arugannia for the to be to write

to to make the story. And if I'm partying the people

zionis who who they're that they have had the right absolute

to to be able can the water to the water to interpretations

that is the water merah or the water Mediterranean or the

the the Tigris or the Upritus or the

humah this can be exploited by them to be their but this

but this topang did don't by the Jewish Ashkenazi

who actually not put in the blood with Semitism they're

not Semitism and this kind of difficult to be pahmy Yeah

right right how Abye yeah I think that that

that it that that that that that that that

If, if we're talking on this, it's what that's that's a big of Muslim.

Not only the people not only the Arab, people, miscarriagey need-bye. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, to come on. So, even, even, it's actually upa-upia

to make back-upak-a- Jewish in the Toursenah. Now, want to move the Pettunah, but.

That I don't I don't even But, but that Indicator Indicator Nankutal that is commucca-can

by the That's why That's because it's bad, we can't be it, not, the catania

that that's the first that is America when he banguling But I

think I don't come to the But there there, there there who is a

one that's a whole that's one of people that's that you

think that the way the way we're we're not we're there there's

there there people people people people yeah yeah

we're we're we can't we're we're we're we're we're using

we're we need we're if if if if if if the Quran

in Nabi, people who, who, people, in the word, people who people who

people who people who is the that's, who menataka people Nassarani. Because in

there, there people, there, there, there, there, ah, ha,

ha, ha, There, there, there, there, the basis, if people are to come back to the Ajaran the right,

he must be unereruner of the people who's people who are, and that, Buddha that, in ajaran, in,

in, the, in, the, , in the, , um, Islam, Nabi, he is,

he, is, he utus, Tuh, so, so, so we, we, we,

we, Agam, Agamma, Marilla, silh each, and then, God, ma'a-baid. Now, if I'm going to be thinking, I'm mortared, I'm going,

I'm going, we're in, we're in, in the, in, I'm sure, that, that I'm sure, that I'm

that I'm not, and the other is wrong, but in context of social, we have we have to this,

this, this this is rinked, by, the, that there's a difference that's a good natural from soulh

spiritual with solace social Yeah Soly, so on soles social. So, right. So, that's to beacons

commut communal, yeah, right, even, even, but we're not notut,

agamah different. Now, Asia, Tengara, abi, there, there,

200, 100,000 people, and 300 million Muslim, 150,000, 9,000, Catholic, protestant, 150,000, Buddha,

Hindu, maybe 10, 20, 20, just the this is, this, and stable.

Yeah. I'm saying argumentation that Asia, Tengarra, this relative, very,

downy, the number of the death that's that's a different or even the other than opinion to get in

ethnicities, and race and also the lawlaten, that's not more than 9, juts, and the Europe, that

the amount of the amount that's about attribut that that's 180, 190, 190, jute.

The war the two just, the two, more than 100 million. It's in duration 35, 40

10 years. I'm going to think for the human in order for different and there's that's

because ethnic, race and agamah this it's here spiritualitis

it, careif fetus ourriven we're, there, there, there, there,

there, there, But, but, actually the way more than okay. Oh,

yeah. Derepa. Yeah. Right. Now, this I'm going to be the end three minutes

with note or catat that's optimist injelang in Ramadan. Bet, how much, Ab,

to, to rumuskan, that, that'sa Asia, Tengara is a

area that Damai, kental with spiritual status, Garifan for the for the

people, we're more optimist for the goodmaian and predamaiing the world.

Right. Begina here, I'm going back. Why, why, the people

barat when we say, when we say something that he he,

he, he, he, he, he, he, He said, I think, not I feel. We're saying.

Perbiddaan barat with Timur, it's, this menonjolkken Rasa and this menonjolkine Fikir. There's a person philosopher in India, Shankara. He said, if we're talking, if we're talking, if we're talking about, we're bad. But if we're about it, we're we're going

this maybe than that's maybe nabi in the abacama not there

is that there are there can't yeah yeah though from

from from from from the if we talk that that that

we're that we're talking if we if we're if we're if we're

people we're we're god Confusius Muhammad Issa yeah

This is it's it's too emotional, this is too rational it's not it's not

it's been puttemoking yeah, that if if it's if you're in a

mind, that's Zul Karnane Alexander the grid Kadiah or not it,

it's actually the people want being bad the

Barat Barat Akal technology, delupacal we're not in. We're in, so if,

in, in, in, in, Asia, Tengara, there, there,

there, there, there, there, because we, we're to do here,

Fa. The, that's, that's, there, there, there, there,

there, there, and, the, , you know, , If you imam always

to be able to know, man, fuck. Ilmo topercephat you're about

but Iman men, men'ttuk the way you know. That's true. Mudah

can't medall can puttalked your other. Tidatalkan your not much.

So, it's better, pal. This, we need to be to meet suffragette

more than the city spiritual that's the thing we're that we're that we're not with

with the identity not with giving interpretation about about about

interpretation that's that's that's that's that's there's there

there's there there I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm that he's he today he was he's communist,

most of Christian. And then Islam. He's one who has one who has a idea about

a person this. But he said, I don't know, I'm not know Shalat.

I don't know how that's wudu. But he should be unkak encirmin can Islam.

He's probably wrong but but some people, the people people

people just be people He's going to rest. It's not. It's not true. Yeah, too. So, so.

So we need to do not. The reason to un-persatucked not only agamah. All-manusia. Now, that's what did tundat-tangued by Paus with Grand Sheikh Al-Assal. Persauderaan sequehance.

Yeah. Not a bit so. Not a bit. Not a good. Persodaraan seagama. But, it's not leburahua. Can't one again

Yeah, Marry, Ma'am to be protokoleran Predicts how how do you about what

what can be able to what it's difficult to predict I know I think that I'm

that I'm many people who have been trying to happen has been conflict

but I'm also sadar that there there a country adydaia

that in in there's conflict in the rank and we're

we're we're we're we're the Canada to come to

uh something he's she had been Venezuela Venezuela Greenland

yeah yeah yeah so under-udhazard just not there's

what we don't think it but but it's that's a little that's

not a not yet but if if it is only only the thing this

the the print the time the command to

there's if there if there if there are not We only can't doaqa. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,

thank you, ma'am. Thank you, ma'am. Teman, that's, that's, Abi Khrushya. Thank you very.