Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Mardigu Wowiek “Bossman Sontoloyo” (Part 1): Narator Bangsa Harus Bisa Berimajinasi
Episode Date: August 5, 2020Selamat datang di episode pertama Endgame. Membuka pencarian kita akan pengisah (narator) masa depan bangsa: pengusaha, pengamat intelijen, dan Youtuber, Mardigu Wowiek Prasantyo tentang kecintaan ter...hadap Indonesia, budaya membaca, dan imajinasi.
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Now, narrator's notar.
Currowering.
Yeah, bullshitter that's good.
Yeah, okay.
That's good.
This is good statement.
This is a good statement.
T-Game.
T-emann, here we're coming with my friend
I'm going to Wally, Mardi-Go,
who's not really
because video's been
great and very popular and popular.
There's also,
also has done-buck-upucus.
I'm sure.
Beesdaquette.
Bro.
Thank you.
Biae.
Pleasure.
And I'm going to be here.
I'm going to be about
small, you.
Okay.
You one time in my back of my,
the last year,
I'm going to beauntled in San Francisco.
Yeah.
Lucu-in-you-belajar,
criminal minds.
That's, why?
Because you want to be criminal,
or you want to get to criminal,
or what?
So, I'm from Deso, Kamso.
Yeah.
Madiun.
So, Bokap is pension,
the Udata,
the Udhaqatna,
so the country
to America,
that's not-mugue.
Because,
Bokab,
too,
six-tahun,
back-papan,
Pond,
then it's,
the name,
the rank-rend-renda,
from the
captain,
Pansu.
Pension is captain.
So, it's not, you know,
it's...
Now, when I'm not how much
to look guntinging corned,
to the room of Trump,
now, White House.
I'm gunting.
Okay.
I'm going to put in can't.
Now, when you're in,
gundu, clering.
Okay.
Dund, you're...
Jago?
No, you're doing?
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I do.
When you, when you can't three, when you out,
when it's gothurt, what's the, what's the...
Gambar.
This is in Plembang, so,
Pache, bachca a plemmang's a little,
then, then, and then,
what, he?
I'm gonna'n't school,
there, ma'am, no, um, lusun, that,
that, how, how much, no,
no, russun, that, that,
the room we're just,
also, also, is,
allas, that,
and, yeah, I'm just,
I'm, I'm gonna,
I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm here I'm here.
PINA, SMP, right.
So, so you're back up in the Pindana?
Pindana.
Pindana.
That's also same.
This is what, I'm going to school in there?
No, it's not even, that.
When, in 2008, 85, that's the time of Habibi,
Nek, Nakhina, out of America,
who are all right,
yeah.
Yeah, Europe, America,
all right,
yeah.
We want to America.
So we brought proposal to America.
That's the best, the best, the best, 10, 10, 10, 10,
that's how about, but I'm about,
but I'm 8,000, 8, agama.
A lot of NU, Sackla.
Then,
the day of Pungumann,
not, not, not, not, not,
where in here, like, like, not, not, what's, how much?
Three days later, there's surat from Deke Dikud,
surro to the company, Deke Dibut.
In the can't have, there, there, and I said, and I'd be, and I'duduun, there, there's a lot,
there's two people who'd be there, that.
I'dududud, and, see, Salaman, you?
You're like, yeah,
there's a lot of the document.
There's going to,
he's going to bea-law.
You're going to be-do-you-bara.
You're going to school to America?
You think, though, math,
math, English, you know, jelex,
you're like to school to America,
you're going to mowel about 15 minutes,
in my heart of my life,
this is there, we're not going to know,
we're not,
so in the same-cir-in-corritia,
just said, you both, you're going to go, we're
we're going to get.
We're going to get.
After the making up, you're going to be able to.
You don't want to go, you know,
there's not one of America that's just you both.
So, this is not because we're going to be able to.
Because there, because there,
because there, because there,
yeah, not get-pake-lake-lager.
Because that, we can't make-milly.
Bachelor our bachelor is.
Wait, this isis-a-sis-a-sis-a-a-sis-a-a-a-a-
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Now, then we'll get it.
Okay, so, so, so, so.
So, so, so, so, so,
so, when we,
when we're,
in there, we can't picky-
so much,
so,
applied psychology in business.
So,
applied psychology and business,
like,
like,
why coffee at Starbucks,
the price $50,
but,
people,
because because
coffee is the most
not, not too,
not too,
not too,
not,
No, actually.
Okay.
But, okay.
The course of the things,
ergonomic, that's psychological factor.
When you're sitting there,
that's got that's got,
that's the psychological factor.
Okay.
This, this is the other than at Starbucks,
now, this is there's more,
that's why this more.
So, this is more.
So then, when the
the longuant not can't
can't be so criminal mind and forensic investigator
that's not so we need so we need to state penitentiary to
penitentsary to penit class kakap we interview
one, two, one, people to 100, I know this pedophil.
Because, can, it's been,
it's been read, and then,
then, should take short-cost for a
some of dissertation, not doctoral,
that,
the other than the state sponsor terrorism,
dissertation, I'm back in 2009,
that's back in 2009,
that's about who's the sponsor who's who,
who's gung-gamu-gamu,
who's who's who's who are paying this,
this is who,
he's going to intel-in'uah,
so, he's going to intel-in'-go,
so, in that day, I'm going to cut-and-octed
because it's got to becote.
So, we're not to pay the way that's the story.
Okay.
So, so.
So, how do SF?
Almost six, seven years.
Seven years.
Something.
S.2?
So, after, not doctoral, that's like short course,
six-bun-but-lant, but school is for dissertation,
because it's, it's,
because, it's been able to get-and-dinez,
10 years, 10th day, because the job is going to tell by
Benny or Parthor Tahrto.
He said, the state sponsor terrorism is this.
State sponsor terrorism is this.
There was in 2008,
named Lauren Kabila.
Lauren Kabila is rebel.
Congo.
I've been to.
So, so, he's...
...that he's...
...theidstor two-doh.
Democratic Republic and Republic.
...and Republic.
...Brasville and Rikinshasa.
Right.
Right.
In the 8-9, he made state sponsor.
The United, Canada, who sponsored,
Kabila, with a surat,
all the cobalt's,
to be able to Canada,
so that's state-sponsor.
So, Canada looked like a country
that's very,
but the President of the
Belgium and France.
Yeah.
For the two countries.
That's the fact Canada,
Mabat.
Merdick.
He was in 1991,
then,
Desiric Kabila president, because it's state-sponsor terrorism,
actually, now, now, now,
state-sponsor. So, there's state-sponsor.
So, there's, there's, and, like, and, and,
and, and, and, and,
the, the, state-sponsor,
like, the de-stor, that's...
...tugue, rewind,
rewind, okay.
This, you, from the little,
like, like, you,
when you're, you're under-dardat-in-as-f just,
you're just...
...tibed-tibed.
...and, ...and,
...and, I don't like the shit.
I doy.
But because,
Goddoyant, but because
CM's the Cita Moolihani is to America
I see, that's just.
Apopun, whatever.
So, in there, actually,
painful, too,
on the classarance.
So,
not passionate.
But we have
appreciated with who
to pay.
Because it's a country,
if it's not,
money,
no,
no,
I'm like in two, in
in the,
Dayak and Madura, that conflict horizontal
first. Indonesia not
I'm not yet a yaya, a way of a yayasan,
and then I'm saying, because we're
that they're also, we're bant to somepid,
so yeah.
Three-bunas in there,
biayy-one $600,000, total,
675, we're teck,
but we're, buttooker,
and the country, that's always teakor.
The first of tsunami, ache, 206.
Wait a lot of the plane, that's about.
That's the story.
We'll talk about.
So, we're going to be able to back, so we'll, like,
so we'lla, like.
Tapal, that's Karadorn Muang.
When to do you, if you were not,
if not the same, the Nelphan-Mentry,
the detainanation in Thailand,
to Thailand, but full,
the battle suit.
So in the other than the world,
not be full battle suit, that's the word,
that means that's a penactulcan.
Okay,
has to use civil.
Or,
but it's a civil or banjo dineas,
but not a battle suit.
When we telephoned,
can not we don't make it's not even
we don't make aftance,
so,
And then, it's about it's all battle suit.
It's a penactulacan,
if we're not to be called,
not even if it's been given to be given.
Okay, and then,
six-jamb-after-month-uner,
six-months,
so you're going to be able to
tell us that
that is a
a country
with the right
because we're
appreciate
by Thailand.
Now, we see how Harto,
we look at aceh, Parthian fertilizer,
where 40% pupugn't do you give Thailand and Vietnam.
So if there shit happened in Indonesia,
for the muslims to maro, kering, and khanai-lans,
Thailand and Vietnam irim,
iras, without it'd be paid.
And we're just kaka.
Barter.
Kaka.
So when the restypapal,
in Indonesia,
I'm in Kempan.
We've done in operation
to help in 10 Sanda in the Uralathe,
in Marawi.
Bintang 2, from Indonesia, Maijen, Copassus,
operation, to not get to be with the Philippines?
Mayor.
Wow.
I said, yeah, oh,
not diarguergai, Indonesia.
I know, I think the government
I'm not right now I'm not really,
I'm saying,
but what's up to,
it's, now,
maybe emailing is a lot of,
maybe, yeah,
or general's illam,
and then, it's right,
then, right,
but, but,
but, I'm going to mack,
I'm going to make,
you,
you, not ever
there's,
to learn
about criminal minds,
like, terrorism,
or what,
But that's the
but the nature,
this is the nature,
not nature.
Nurture, agree.
Ibarat kata, if you're
if you've got to meet
people who you to nodoc you to pojok
to be able to learn to get to the hutsonan,
you're maybe,
maybe I'm going to be a world
of a lot.
Yeah, right,
you're inattribusical
nurture
to,
or,
or even for success.
Like it's made-made.
Buccese to be a leader.
Beren't.
Nurture, but you're not born to be a leader.
You're not going to be a leader.
I see.
Okay.
Tert-pacca, because self-defense,
we have to appreciate,
the country's already,
we're even,
but because it's repacka it,
reputation,
can go un-gulant
Carta, there's no other,
the other than repetition.
So once we repeat,
repeat, we're uprolet, even if you're uprored,
if you're upholed you,
you're going to do you to be able to the side of the
right,
maybe not, you're going to be front-saintralisiccation
or to mayaping right?
Right, I think I.
This, from batin just, I want to know.
People doesn't change.
Okay.
I'm going to get barat, I can barat
But I'm not even wisdom I have
perspective I'm just like to the more.
That I'm not going to be able to the other than you're
too, but there are some things that are
that's like fixed, back you, right?
But, what?
What are you in your?
You want to take in the water, like in the
water, or in San Francisco, or in where
that's not been from the small, since now?
I was to love, I'm like that.
You don't know, no, that's not really
because you're in show in this.
No.
That's confirmed.
Okay, I'm too much with Indonesia.
So, and not ever lulled
Indonesia,
while upon the government that's now
this magellin aty,
that we're, we're doing.
We're doing, okay, we're...
And then,
because there's a...
that's interesting in the
so one of blessing in in doa or
beshucur is, is that's that's that
that, that, that, that, that, that,
not, that can't never be able to be.
Okay, that what, alasance.
Why you're you're
blessed, did live here in Indonesia?
Uh, not in Singapore,
not in Norway,
not in America, or in New Zealand.
It's, it's...
So, it's...
One of one of one, I was one,
I was a little bit of a small of a small,
who's from the father,
that we're last,
as a turunan panday-besi.
So, it's down, teem-tem-un,
that's down, down, and there's,
now,
I was a story
there's a folklore,
yeah, that's about before we're,
that's about,
there, there,
from mbhbha,
about,
when the time
on the jacan-massu,
it's not to be
spice or rempah,
but to be mowm,
I said he, I said,
I said, I'm,
this, this, is,
like, light,
little,
with the Javier,
The world, the world,
to make uptick
to make upstic
to make,
technology, and then,
the technology,
and then,
the world,
the music is made from what?
Kauk.
Kiyu,
Sennar,
that,
Biaola, that.
To
Timur-Tenna,
the music is made from
what?
Kau,
There,
Kuh,
Yeah, there,
Kuh,
Kuh,
Kuh,
Kuh, Sene,
There's been more than a shirling, bamboo.
But there's not,
since 1,000 years ago,
musings gammalang, gong, gong, that's all.
That's the world of logam.
We're a big,
that's good.
That, that,
the buddaya logam that
will be taken
by the menjad.
That, because that'sunan-bonang,
it's a two-perintas.
The rintah is very
called,
apatigene,
the rintas-mattig-and-a-a-p.
When the buda of the body,
then the logam our time is england.
Yeah.
Theinita Sabdo Sumurupin geni,
the Pyrinta,
that's 17thurban,
it happened,
now, it's from 17.
Oh, yeah?
From it's from from Bonang.
Then it's just from Aran.
It's from now,
Sunan Muria,
because from the Sunan,
it's from now 17.
Because that's...
Sunan Bonang, to abat the 14 or 15,
14th, 14, that's 14.
Now, now, 17.
So, from the other, we've been the same jaya jay that we're like,
sumur-phing dini, the Pryntah, it's been a new-oaned-a-posed,
that's an kiasan, so it's, so it's,
so it's, so, it's, so,
it's, and, to bea-being-basket-becky-basket-the-basket,
we're...
Right?
...and-a-one-one-one, right?
A 1st3 million.
We're not the flat earth, really?
Yeah.
We're not really not?
Yeah.
We're mutter.
If we have a ball plastic, we putter,
we'll putter,
then the huckum alam will mutter in the middle.
So, in the putarant,
that, it,
made all the mineral,
there is in the mucca of the
Indonesia,
because the long as if we're still in the way.
So we've already that there,
that there's a day,
we're rebus, cubis,
you're not, you've got, you've got to be all,
but I'm going to,
that's all there,
that's all in Indonesia.
I hated chemistry.
But that's part of science.
So, so I love science, but I hated chemistry.
Oh, that's, that's the
The way is the most of the most of the
It's not that's notar, that's right,
because running on the family,
but the value of school is, it's a leagued.
Anyway, so,
so, so,
so we're getting that in the nickel Indonesia,
misal,
we're better than nickel in the world,
nickel, that's called L.I.,
because that's the billetreed.
But what's the bared,
only nickel, L.I. not the buyer,
Now, it's got to cobalt, it's been made by the
because of it's not, why it's made sure, why in this way,
but it's been made.
But it's not made, yeah, that's what we're making.
This is a maximum, this is.
This is a sumur pinker-gony, that's, so that's the code.
So I'm exciting, that now, you know.
Okay, tanda, yeah.
Tanda-tanda, that's.
I was about the prof of Emil Salim.
He also kind of nighampet to
on the onumonging about
and a little about
and a little mingongued
what, the name name,
Ahaly Matematica or Ilmuwan,
the name is al-Qarizmi.
He was like in 2009,
until 8,50,
but he's who
inspired
what, yeah,
pra-a-prasasas and
well-a-gabar,
mathematics,
then in Africa, then astronomy, navigation,
that's when,
when in Baghdad in the 13th,
disarrang by Mongol,
it's lost,
the law of the world.
You're about,
you're going to get to
about,
a little about science.
I'm looking at Indonesia,
I'm not too many
people who are rancol social science,
is not quite empirical science.
Agree.
Yeah, right?
We as a country Muslim the best of the world
in the world,
if we're ague to what
that's been in the sameatka'aerichmi
in the abate to 18,
after the 18th,
why not be used,
right?
Rangulant ranculan
science or empirical science.
Stem, now,
science, technology, engineering, mathematics.
Right.
But right.
But we can more than productivity, efficiency, and the
and more than the big.
Banga big, is technology, go-y.
Yes.
Is it?
Where do you know what about Indonesia is now?
Well, I mean, I think,
we're still kind of,
if we look from the sysic
technology and things
and stuff,
but I'm optimistic.
If we're really,
but really, but I'm going to be able to be able to be
a lot.
Pylion that's not many.
What's the other?
Pylian about.
Psyche, not as much book that's not as a book that.
Yeah, right.
Social science, or maybe economic.
Not, not.
Really?
But if you, if you, if you want to be more
more than to be more science,
than the social science.
Yeah, because of it.
Yeah, because of it.
Yeah, I think.
that's what's systemic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because people, you know,
even if you're not to read,
even if you're not to read book science.
It's more than
book of social science.
Because...
Because narrations are more
better-enertors.
Exactly.
You're one of the more popular narrators
in Indonesia.
You, video's about rations
about.
I always look
Indonesia, this narrations
k' kren but
narrator's not.
Oh, okay.
Narration is great.
narrator?
The narrator is not.
Currown bullseater?
Yeah, bullshiter that's a back up bullshit.
Ah, okay.
That's good statement.
I'm going to ramu,
the importance of our
to make upan the
alam,
and the importance to
to make upwarkan
narrator as much.
I want to know,
how you how about
about that?
There are two people
that's about my because I'm gonna bea bachia you know,
so you know, I'm gonna be bachia.
So, when I was back,
it's when I wasca, it's really like,
he's really, like,
novel,
the way, Karno,
so we're,
he's, he's going to look,
he's, he's,
we're,
even,
but he,
but he's,
he,
Hitler, I'm a perjouangelo.
And in the time modern
this,
I'm not
can't be
really
people this
named Obama.
Gila, speech
yeah, top.
He can,
what,
yeah,
I'm,
I'm not,
but I'm not
able to be,
because the latter
behind,
applied psychology,
to, okay,
I can take here,
I can take here,
so,
So the other than the other than imaginative, narrative.
So when they're making narration,
people are imaginative, so that's theater of omnis mayn.
So, so many people who are narration,
if, I'm sorry, yeah,
Solat Jumat, I heard, Ustad, Gond,
when I asked my niece,
I was, it's what?
That's what?
Yeah.
Because, narration, we're not,
but we're imaginative,
that's about
Obama,
I'm also
people who I idol,
so yeah
so,
almost every
two malam
I'm trying
the last speech of Obama,
this Obama
and we,
I adore,
so I think
I want to
learn from
and you,
far,
because
video,
we're,
and,
there,
so,
narrations, I really,
I really,
I really, if I'm,
if I'm being,
imagineative narrator,
for the importance
to promote you,
you're enough effective,
because you,
if you're,
not, no,
in video.
Yeah, because you're
not,
it's, I'm,
you're,
without you,
you've been,
you've been,
to be a good, I see, I see, okay.
That's if I'm in Ceredaskska,
yeah, so that people can stretch the imagination.
But I'm going to rewind a little, back to Obama.
Being the devil's advocate.
Yeah.
Who, yeah?
Many critiqued about Obama is,
Pidato, is not in job everything.
Agree?
Yeah, right?
Yeah, you have to be correct in the action.
Now, he's in what, this?
If I'm, many people who still critiqued him,
he, yeah, he's maybe pithotovs okay,
but many things that he can't do not
for eight years.
Good.
Okay?
Okay?
I agree.
Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe,
The other that's the right is the right is
is that he islembung-downeficit.
But if I look at Republic, Pascha Obama,
more than the more than the power.
Yeah, that, he was englembunked deficit
because of the pencetraising, 2009 to the up.
Yeah, because shit happened, in 2008, yeah.
And the other, maybe, this is not from the right-canan,
but from some of the suburb,
he's more than regulatory oversight
that's kept at the sector perbanking.
After he's doing recalicization,
he's not cut at supervisions and everything.
So it's not that's not.
The borosan of the Wall Street,
where Wall Street not get met with Main Street.
I agree.
And what's the very,
I'm like Obama care
that's a pharmaceuticals
so if you're backangue
is a pharmaceuticals that's
not quite a herring,
that's right. He's too darling,
when he was, sometimes Trump
now, he's been abas it all, right?
Yeah, I'm going to, wow,
this, he's a side in the,
in the, in the, in-regoranagheran.
Right, and there's not a take-aside,
yeah, no, no, there,
Ipolexus but hunkum, yeah,
you know, it's not one that,
yeah, he wanted to do that.
Anyway, but what I think is,
we're doing it, we'll be good,
but I'm going to back to you,
okay.
You, to,
so, it's just enough
can be able to be imaginative narrator.
Yeah, right?
But how,
so, what, you can,
what, yeah,
mass-produce,
narrators,
because,
that's,
that's when we're more than
people, people,
people, right?
If India, I'm from the way that they're
they're just going to argue,
and they like to argue for the sake of arguing,
not for the sake of the substance.
Yeah, right.
If China, because they're
the factory of the world,
inevitably, they're are being per-bincereately
they have to be per-bingenchant.
So in the small,
that's 5.5 million, it's just a topic of a big of
a bigotip of a bigotaping,
even can, what,
yeah,
me-minerkan soft power
that's more than we're going to be
$270,000,000,
Agree.
Third biggest democracy,
fourth most populous country.
Agree.
Currack, can.
How, so, there's 100 narrator?
He can't do you can't
in a lot of the
in in in in ink, in Australia, in America,
he can't make something that's great
that can be able to be able to beauchamping
by the world.
Tampa,
without more than the respect of the
indonesia,
the buddhaeanthewat,
pitutur,
pertutur,
but not budaaia
baca.
So,
how much
to make the culture we've got to be it's a
right now
we're just to promiscation,
but from the same from the same,
so, the,
so, the President America,
or first lady,
always come to TKTKK, bachiae,
now,
what we have to do
do we have got it?
And it's not,
And then there's because by YouTube we can't
be able to be able to beaacca.
And even you can't even if you can't even
just, it's just, it's just about.
And what's at this is,
book, book,
so, there's one who's not like to becha.
No.
Bucu-bagoos not.
Begitutu-bucked, we're just,
we're not as a penderat.
I, if I'm not...
Really?
I, if I, if I,
I'm not...
...nari topic that I like...
...n't...
Yes.
Yeah.
BASA Indonesia, BASA, BASA, BASA, BASA, BASA, BASA, there.
There's...
There's...
Yeah, if BASA, Indonesia, maybe,
a bit more biased to the
of the stories, if I'm going to be a book.
Yeah, right.
But if I'm going to go to go and I'm going to be like,
that's about physics, like,
about sociology, or what I'll do.
That's what I'm going to do you,
that's interesting.
We're with some of the Pankillah Baca.
If we're going to talk of the book,
book that's about in Indonesia, we're going to look at the reference
but if we're at Timeshast in Singapore, that's a long-can-in' when
when it's a boss man that he'd already, two are in the w'all.
I need a geopolitic book.
Okay.
Have you read this, fire, about Trump, how he becomes narcissism and like, okay.
What is it?
He's said, he's said, and if I'm going to be this, this, he's a booku-
In the Tokugu's what?
He's re-referensical.
So we've got to be a good book.
I mean, you're getting better service than I do.
So if we're going to get knowledge.
If we go to Indonesia, we're going to look at.
Maiddea, you've got, you've got to be ASEAN water,
this is how China becomes strong because I'm going to say water,
what, tell me the isin.
He's said, this, okay, I buy this, bu.
So that's what I mean?
So, what's the, he's about the booker,
and we've got to give knowledge.
So, I think I,
if it's happened in some of the book,
there's reference to, we know what we're trying.
So it's not a book, we're not having knowledge.
So there's a...
Agree.
Agree.
That's the, that's...
But if you, that's...
But you, that's...
...itifestation from the malasan our
too.
We have to provocation,
we're probably...
Yeah, yeah, right.
Yeah, right.
So that, if that's more systemic.
It's spoiled, actually, we're in the leading,
to be bacharcing, to be baca,
that. Now how do we fix that?
We're able to enable,
then, later, later,
the latererer's,
so they're inmate,
want to come to go to book or to Amazon,
or to where.
We're, if we're on a sped-beda-uped-uped-uped-to-rude-to-a-d-old,
we're going to be-guid,
I'm like that's got to...
Because nature is a little of people
did get up with...
Yeah.
...you know, you like to becautarche,
now, or, at least,
or the rame, this, is decoupling,
between Tijuana with America.
Yeah.
Some of the last, Consulate General,
Tiongok in Houston,
did tutop, yeah, right?
Right?
Right.
Now, this is the impact of Indonesia, how do you know,
react with the Uyongok?
This is endgame.
It's like, ah, this is what I'm going to be,
this, I'm going to be a problem,
I said, I said,
I'm, I mean, my,
I've had, my,
can't, sir, I'm,
can't, sir,
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