Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Perbanyak Waktu Kenali Diri Sendiri | Endgame ft. Ardhito Pramono (Part 3)

Episode Date: October 25, 2020

Peta jalan seorang seniman ditentukan oleh pengenalan terhadap diri sendiri dan apa yang mereka benar-benar yakini. Layaknya sebuah negara seperti Indonesia yang harus memantapkan visinya dengan lebih mengenal apa sebenarnya identitas yang ingin kita kedepankan. Selain warna musik yang lebih kaya, di tahun 2045 nanti Ardhito berharap pekerjaan di bidang seni di Indonesia sudah mendapat apresiasi yang jauh lebih tinggi dari sekarang.

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This is endgame. Okay, this 10-year-the-depan you have to get in optimism, will have a 1,000 Ardito. Yeah, right? Because we have a bonus demographic. Yeah, right?

60% of population, is much more than 30-tawnan, as long as they can buy Mac or laptop. Yeah, right, and there's a lot of the same has a good and a good, the kind of instinct creative to write, lyric, or whatever.

But I want to ask, lyric, the lago of your, can't the language English, which makes it very, very difficult to believe. why can't with the world in Indonesia? Because if we sample just here, the people just, ah, if you can't, if it's in the other than,

but why, how can't how can't get with English? Now, this is a barrier, for many of people in Indonesia who, aggap, that's not even in English, not even the international, that's how to overcome that barrier? Maybe the music or melody, rhythm the rhythm that's overwhelming,

compared to the kind of the other. So, I'm also, I'm also, like, be learning to make a lago BASA Indonesia. No, no, no. And then, because it's really, the process creativness, same, making a song with English. So that's film Kaleh that will come out of this. I'm trying to make making a song,

make a song with the language and I'm still learning. I'm still learning. More than I'm still more than I'm more. More difficult. Okay. If you want to have issues, issues like Maladi,

that I said, the song Ombak Samudra, That has, has had, have had a lot of the other than have been inundas Indonesia's unique, unique. And what else, for we want to make

an narrator that many in Indonesia? Learn about the business. In-many-pun-it-with-it-be-be-cathed, not just in music. There's other, in business music or film. The business music? The ups and downs is how you can't over it,

kind of down. But, after downs, but after down, it's always there's graphic that's made. I've ever got back with one of management pertemannan, based on that.

Yeah, I heard about that. with one of one of one that's one's one's who's already the music that's music that's not appreciated in management that, because I have a word of a different, and make a BAS-English also. So, everyone's in English. But that, it doesn't work well.

I decided to go up from that management, and on the showcase with without model. And then, after showcase it, it was on the last

many had to people at that and there were people who people who got to buy ticket. That's then,

I can meet with one one label that I've been with with the label that. And I said to label that before I was up.

Label S. As the electronic brand. That's Sony. 2017, man. I said with label Sony, if I have system, I've built a small community from my music, you don't have to change anything, actually. Just we're crud-in' just with around.

So many experiments that's in Sony, many negative sentiment too, when the last one's first one's the last the last one's two, it's been out of positive comments. So, since, and I can be working with a salem-peng-peng-ent like a pacarer that's right,

where we can, how Sony can't haggie idea, give us can, and then we can work with and from the problem that's from the management my management of my,

I work on YouTube MCN company, at that I'm playing about the music business. How to boost a song, how to find a great timing in posting a promotional for your new song, how much how much

how much more than how much to be in the way of people, there I've learned about. And what is what is what is going to be hindered? For young aspiring musician from Mamu from Wamena, from Magalang, that's, who'd be like Ardito? I'm not just to beaure with the

omongan manis. Yeah. There's who... There's who... ...that's who can't be manvathed or how, because... You've ever not, not ever, ever, but... Okay.

...perna, and the The case even even up to myraudicant in the financial, in the bedang, what, what, name, the other than, so, so, so, you know, because... Because... ...perccia, don't getpacred, don't...

Don't... ...and, don't believe with a mongan-manis. Then, ...and never be able to learn to learn, or in the land ballok. Then I'm going to learn to learn. I'm going to learn, so.

So, that's that I see, that I'm seeing in the same. Pernalas, is it? Seren, pa. Oh, yeah? When I was the album I was paid for I upload in aggregator. And the man-manager said,

if if the bidet's in the budget, we'll get to, what I'm going to put in the card of credit because we haven't had card debit card. How naive you were. I would. I would.

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, The most of my music, I think I have to be there's been saying that's when I was that. Then, yeah, all-upom is booming, and copyright and publishing in there, not my name of my, and I don't have a sound to be

to claim that's my and, and, and, I'm not getting to get from the album that's from the album that's that's raced, from Alitoa Mono. There's many of what I'ma's what I'm saying? Amid the mic, but I think people can learn from this from your experience.

And I see that's, I'm really, better, and it's just being panutka. Okay, fast forward, yeah? 10-tawn. 25-tawn, from here today. You're in the 20 years. Where do you see yourself? After production of 75 films, 75 albums,

not per-cutee. Yeah, right? I can have the rest of my days. In the kampung, I'm maybe in Bali. So I'm... So I'm from Bali? Okay. Okay.

I'm from Joggi. Okay. But I still... Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm a young Jokja, too. Oh, that's a person Jokja, yeah. Oh, that. I'm nother, I'm very

I'm very much about Bali, culture. Because at that, my father my father's my my father's with the culture jawa. Okay. A year can't four times

to go back to Joggi. But I'm always curious with the Budaia and, and, I'm there, there's connected, those connected dots,

spiritual things that I experienced in there, why I'm in Bali, like I feel like I'm home spiritually. So I would be in Bali still producing some music. In the meantime, I would just sip in Balinese wine beside the pool maybe. Now, would you attribute more to your Balinese ancestry? ancestry for your artisic instinct of your. Yeah.

And, and how to the attitude of the music that I made, Bali, really, it's really, spontaneous, full of communication that I've felt that I've made. I'm not as well as if you're making for music, then you'd be made for to make cadresasie,

minnie-mese of Ardito, would you do it? I would. Would you tell them to sound like you, or would you tell them to sound like them? I would tell them to sound like them. That's why I always I always tell people who want to be a

musician, if you're always with artists or musicians that's not just about can't be samaken, to find references that gender of a different. If I'd like Ami One House, for me.

Wow. Kiela. Soura, lago, Keele. I mean, unfortunate. Unfortunately. So as the way of the way I'm going to be any one house, I would make something original out of that.

So I would say that. Don't too include references. Referential is just as a talk of a looker, maybe, in music. But you're in the more 50, I'm more looking at the other than in the back of camera or in the microphone. Or, to dook people for in the back camera or in the microphone?

I'm going to be a good on the microphone. More to be there, than in the back camera. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's a film or film, is a bit transient or temporary? No. not too, this? It's always be with a lot,

but I think, but if you're more to, if you're more in the background microphone. More in the background, okay. But, because for workshop one-lago, we can, we can make a story,

we can make film, and, in session, workshop, that's why, in the back microphone, or in the back, so songwriter, it's very because it's a little bit more than just in one room. Yeah. This I'm going to be a bit with economy, yeah.

Yeah. If we on track, the protumbuance, until 2004-5, there's a kind of the economy that's the number four in the world. Yeah, this barring anomalies. if not to be what's, what's, what's it's or anomaly.

That, if we extrapolation, it's, it's, it's the manifestations of not only geopolitic, but the power of the social, and all of the, it's all right, that, you know, right? How, that, in think, imagine of your, what do you think? And, that's like, it could be humanu-man.

of the men, the penitaraan with the work other has been there's there. There's badan,

the body of the human or music or art, I must have had to have been a jasa

that we give us a job that we also, that's a person who's not, without,

without any photography, there can capture what, Bungarno is in person. It's been able to be able to beauretahara 4. We're not...

Inshallah, amen. We've got to be made film that, maybe, like India, quantitazes are many, and industry's a good-buck-buck-barked. A personeman, also can be hardgay, not meantang, if this is not even,

the buyer-succa-suka, it's not there, so band-roll appreciation to the man-man or musician, that's, I've got to have standard it, I think, that. It's like that. This, you, you know, the body our body,

that's been by the electrification, neurons in the brain, and the um, that's that's about the part of our two-two-do-the-the-the-recaiast to be re-caiast

with the advancement artificial intelligence, robotization, and so again, the more profession to be automasica but

that's not automatization, it's more than it's a lot of the same. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the robot can't even the perfect pitch. Sonata or symphony number from anyone, but he maybe can, with the power of artificial intelligence

to composition, lago. But appreciation to the composition organic, in the than non-organic, robotic, it's more more than more than more than more to appreciate it to the future. We also will more

need philosophers, poets, yeah, right? Dibanding account, than lawyer, in other than what can be automasies. So, I see, I see, look at the more than more more than more than

more than, if, if this, Indonesia, and the world will be in the world will be in where robotization, automations, artificial intelligence, and,

and, can, what, can, can also be automobesies, just true, profession cultural, artistic, that's that's more than more than, you agree with that? I totally agree.

I, I think I, that's about the time that's that from the 40s-a-bath-a-bac-bac-a- or even or even, even, even, even more than more than, maybe, maybe, from Gamelan maybe, 20, 1800 maybe. Because it can, more much,

to try artifax music in Indonesia at that, next to me. I'm kind of, because, after, this, many celebrities that are being in the right-politic. Yeah, right? Conscious and unconsciously.

Do you have any views about it? I, as a young young, being a politic, if now, maybe, not bad, because we have to know the conditions what we're doing, this I've learned from the experience, So we have a lot of the book.

We have to double-checked matcher. We have a correlation there's correlations with opposition political, or not, what you what you belat for the kids, what you're right, or what you're wrong,

that's important to know in the area of this. Because what happened to me was, I didn't know anything, but really. Come on, you're only 25, man. And I've already asked them, can't there have a hubbunann.

They said, no. But, it's really there's a hubbunation. Well, I don't know the condition was really absolute at that time. But now, can, Many, you know,

that's in the way of the people, as a number of the people, like, or what, at least, at the level of the area, or even, that? That's, I think, if, if, if, if,

DPR, DPR, DPR's of the men, probably, yeah, not too, but if, because,

because, people, people part of, Then you don't have to know about politics. Just learning by doing. Just do it first. Because it's it can be able to learn. But, in my opinion, it is a little bit of it

that is a little bit of learning just, because it's electability that's good, it will be able to be. I'm not worth it to try. If you have a beautiful work behind you, and it doesn't, you know, it doesn't. doesn't make sense to risk all of that because of something that you don't know.

Just because in terms of money, it's not worth it at all, I would say no. But I would still give them the benefit of the doubt. That's why there are cumuliaan. They want to make a difference. Yeah. Yeah. background. And if,

I'm going to say, this episode that's alamih, because we're, as we're, sorry, this is a bit, it's not about. It's not about. I would love to hear. We're just a nascent. It's just a good,

but we're democracies from 2008, just 22 years, in the other than America that's 200-tallon-le-le-le- more than more than the process of the curiosity is not only in people who are from background profession certain too, as well from all professions.

If they're going to come in partisipation, to make upangu uphe the conversation, you just mongomongue, mongue, but then, also learning by doing, if they're to pleset, yeah, then they're, oh, it, it's, it's, we're not like, it's not like, yeah, that's, if I see,

if I see, I'm going to look at positive. Positive? Yeah, that's a process of learning. What other, what you see in the Mesa in the Monsa, that's positive? How can we can give inspiration to the kids young to the people. I think in 25 years,

five years will have a label that have a lot of color, will be more musicians, can be much more than the sound of our frequency. Because now, now, now, many musicians, my friends, I'm at playing modeler, synth. I'm, I'm just, so I can get

to get the trance, that's more than the experimentalists, musicians, the people whoopement also, the body of the human also has more much the warnowning. It's going to be fun journey until Indonesia's 100th anniversary. It's going to be a long journey but fun. But what can be kind of what can be a kind of a kind of? If we look at the trend democratization, democratization pipa-papa, what can be a kind of...

If we're going to be a soniman, or we're going to be musicians, who want go international. That's going to be a kind of, basically, even from the linguang of communities. That's why I never touch any community, Because I'm not only

the time of my friends, if you made the song, they would only do critics for you. Although critiques that's to build, but maybe, sometimes, to be a song music,

it's just, just merm, make, make, and out of, wear, and out, after making a new. After,

I'm like that's I'm like I'm being critiqued my time about my English, too segmented, and and, and I'm not... But I'm not... Boy, you proved them wrong. Yeah, and I'm not purdully in, I'm just as a

as a certain, it's even, even, even, what, yeah, to be menangue in the need of the world and with idealism of my own.

How can't you can't even with people who can't even though but it's been abhorred by the same, just the two nades from bitter love? It's, it's, so, so,

many of time to learn connectivity on your instrument, your song, your soul, your thoughts to do you, and what you know what

people who can't people make what, music like what? But they got to have the confidence, to be the confidence, that's important. And, and the of the

of the from from the big of the didang. They know the stuff. They'll be confident. They'll be confident.

They don't know the stuff. Yeah, right. But if you're not being like that's not paid for me. Right. That's, I'm going to tell just, I wasn't trying to push you, or what I'm going to see that I'm going to be a tipping point, where it's going to more more than many men's women in Indonesia. Amen.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm at the end up with rapid fire questions. Yeah? And... ...bisad they'd be in the stock or you want to sell the stock. Yeah, right? Indonesia, 2045. If that's a share, you'd buy?

I would buy. Absolutely. I would buy. You'd be in trouble if you said sell. I would be in trouble. I would buy it, definitely I would buy. Dangdutt, would you buy the stock or sell the stock? I would buy it.

Do you think Deng Dundut is going to be more than K-pop in 2004-5? Deng Dund has a specific genre, subgenre, which is kind of coplo. It would be definitely go international. Because Alan Walker, Alan Walker, He's like Koppel, ma'i. DJ from US, he knows market in Indonesia's big as good as much

Indonesian, I mean, Malayu, like, give gendang Koppel, I believe from one of the logic pro, there's one one of one, so, ma, so,

so, so, so, so... Koppel, would be done, and smo-a-koh-a-klo-p, Indowood or Bollywood? Buy salemingham in the

This is just a difficult one. Ready for a difficult one? Sure. I'm ready. Ardito as the future Steven Spielberg. Wow. Buy the stock or sell the stock? I would sell.

Okay. Last one. Music is the more than to look back-to-belakang? Or to look to the back? I can look to back. Because there's not there's not new, I like that. Yeah, the new time of the 70-a-a-.

Because, you know, in essence, you talk about history, and you stress. the importance of history. And many people, too, they're not to look up with the history. And many of the other that history tends to repeat itself. Exactly.

Yeah, right? And I see that you're in from the concept that that we have to more appreciates the history. You want to even to go to the last 40s.

I want to Gamelan. True. True. Yes. The orchestra of Gamelan, will be it happen? It will be. I mean, in a global sense. Oh, wow.

It can be. Definitely. And ticket's maybe 100,000, 100,000, 100,000. Because, as I think, I think that's a very different experience when you see Gamelin. You know, it's a very different experience. You see yourself getting involved in the production of that? Sure.

I've been to Turkey, at that, playing gendang, for Karsiaka Children Festival. And I'm the coolest orchestra in that festival. That's the most of the orchestra. with a bagelan, bow, bow canong. The other just, like, that's the most of the world. We got a lot of attention from the world.

Wow. Hey, man, it's been fascinating. On that note, let's beat the drums for the next to the future. Yeah? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, thank you.

Thank you, the name that's going to ring more and more in the future. Thank you. This is end game.