Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Perspektif Gender Belum Menjadi Perhatian | #Endgame ft. Khofifah Indar Parawansa (Part 3)

Episode Date: October 4, 2020

Pengalaman Khofifah di dunia politik membuatnya sadar bahwa menyuarakan kesetaraan gender tidaklah mudah. Perlu adanya kesadaran dan  kerja sama berbagai pihak untuk memahami isu-isu perempuan te...rutama isu kekerasan terhadap perempuan serta kesenjangan akses perempuan terhadap informasi. Di samping itu, Khofifah berpendapat bahwa peran teknologi berbasis internet sangatlah penting untuk meningkatkan kesejahteraan sosial melalui e-platforms yang menawarkan transparansi dan juga efisiensi.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think I'm actually, uh, perso-uhlaping, it's usually in the same mid-Qaeda or Pil-Pres, Mr. Gita. This is NG.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Bu, I'm going fast forward a little to the time, I'm being a minister, yeah, right? Yeah. In 2014, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Uh, to 2018. If you're about about the people as a menry Pemberdayaan Permaneraempsompson, dbunding can with the Mesao as
Starting point is 00:00:36 as a MENTRI social. What, Buh? Plus-minus, or the more kind of, what, but? Tantangangu's better, yeah. Because if in Pemberaan, the time we told us gender equality.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yeah. Wow, to be able to be like, gender, it's not much, we're not much, where, where, gendry, the minister, but the other
Starting point is 00:01:05 people, the other, gendor, and then to the area governor gendor, so, so, to socialization
Starting point is 00:01:15 terminology gender, it's not much, I'm I'm going to the many
Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm going to be, if there, if I'm not, if I'm not, but I'm not, but I'm not about, I'm not going perspective gender. I'm going to polda. We can't get 19 polda who then, how to make form of layan for women and anna.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So, that, many many people, Porempowal who then, who's repulcican, both Poldesk, Polres, and Polda, if the casus of perkhae, he'd be it's not, he'd ask again, how, how you're going to beercosa and sootus and soothia.
Starting point is 00:02:08 This, if he's had ever been a carousan, that this the kreasa the second-kallin. Then, communikasel, I, with, with Paulei, and,
Starting point is 00:02:20 First, we give the for in Polda Metro, we're giving the computer, we're having, the computer, the rooming, the rooming, the rooming,
Starting point is 00:02:34 we're making one-stop service crisis center. One-stop service crisis center, that, I think I'm great we're going to we're at the time in RSDM. This is in the Philippines,
Starting point is 00:02:49 there in some of conflict, they're in a war, they're in a while, how they're in a man, and a man, and a facility, VATI,B, when they're in the
Starting point is 00:03:03 time, this, this, this, this, there, there, there, there's, the,
Starting point is 00:03:12 perwackil of the school, and then, the workal of shelter. We have shelter This is something that's very that's really important to build position of the people and
Starting point is 00:03:25 and a lot of the situation traumatic. That we've got in 19tholda, if not 162, Ma Polres, had somepat there, uh, room, where facilitation to the women and and the class of the class. Now,
Starting point is 00:03:46 the position is still making foundation like that. In the Comentrian social, this is our our B.R. B.
Starting point is 00:03:57 We have been backbone. It's, it's from assumption it's being the second, from,
Starting point is 00:04:07 or if this backbonds, this backbones, Now, I'm then, then, by Mr. Jokov, this, if the miskinan, have been in the repgium, that's kind of, we're taking interventions,
Starting point is 00:04:27 or did add the penerimation. I want to say, I want to be it, I have to try the packarer. This, with all of all right, and, maybe, maybe, Maybe not everyone can't receive what I'm saying I'm saying I'm think of people who can't help to inting-itung-in-and-itung-and-a-nambah
Starting point is 00:04:48 or number-in-nigh-intervency-ness. Come, I'm to many people. And one of one of the packer this is, Bu, who can't think-itung it is the bank-dunia, but headquartered it. I'm, I'm then February 2015, I coordinated, and I got probono, you, Pagena, they're doing... To do you, no. When they're coming, 10 to 14 people, a 1,000, a
Starting point is 00:05:21 a 1,000, around 1, 14 days. of ten to fourteen people, the day it's about four days. I'm what's what I'm going to pute. I'm first, process to be able to be able to be it with the humuskinan, if we're going to get of the garris of course,
Starting point is 00:05:44 and then the money is, one in the two dollars, yeah. So, then there's miskin, there's hampir-miping, there rent-an-miscan, and more people more people. There's more, no more than I'm just like that. You can't just like that. Then, then,
Starting point is 00:06:05 then, you know, what do you? I'm butto what? I'm butto social registration. How, so, the registration of this can do can do in a very quick,
Starting point is 00:06:19 can do in a relative If real-time, yeah, it's not much, because it's manual when it's still, and so forth. So, it's called, so that's every day, so I'm going to, I want this, I want this. Now, so that, that's a par social registration from Brazil. Then we're two-called, it's two, one-one, ten, fourteen,
Starting point is 00:06:45 four days, two-called, Then I'd like, if I'm again, once in a lot of them, so they'd even they also don't want. So I'm in format graduation. I'm in the system is like what? It's called the kankilkarkar who ameming how graduation system.
Starting point is 00:07:05 There's a pakar from Filipina. So, we're not only from, what, the headquarters of World Bank, but that from the other other other than we're with our needs to make up, this is a social protection, this is a penindunging social,
Starting point is 00:07:25 if it's not it can't be able to engelam, that's how can't be mandirical, then there's form of graduation system. Now, And then, wow, this is there, in sunat, that's in there, in sunat, this has to be made format that,
Starting point is 00:07:50 I think I, how they've never known to be able to access, then they can access, can access the company per bankers, and, at least, at least, We have used e-wollet. So to conversing to e-wollet, Masjaw, who, who, not-percertained,
Starting point is 00:08:13 there, many, many people who are the people of strategy. I'm not very much to say this. The people who are people who are not even that we can do that. Then, then, there are Queen Maxima. Queen Maxima, that's, can team special envoy of the Bank Dunia,
Starting point is 00:08:33 to look at how, actually, the pola that's-less So, the pola that's not-punach-less is where? I was in-unded-rappat in KMENCO. There's no one-terrida in KAH. Programme-Hara-Hara-Hapan if it's done in-aseless e-wollet,
Starting point is 00:08:58 that's not there's not a story. Kewan, two days from Queen Maxima, Minta, Minta, Minta, Minta, Minta, right, what-odot-wet, right, yeah, 1.5 days. Because he's at SMP, Nekri-Satu-Bogor, then, then, then, what's the town the PKK in Bogor, the city.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah, it's, the gung-neung-ne-kecheele, it's, and, it's, while for the money-profit-betol. So that win-win, win, profit, then, then, kaget, you? How can, you? So, the commandant, commandant, strategist,
Starting point is 00:09:37 not even, who, who, it's not quite, it's a bit more even, it's one-and-a-half-day, though,
Starting point is 00:09:46 there's a minute, if you can't, maybe, not know, Miss Iris, this, come, He came in the day, that's the pay for the pay for the payers for the
Starting point is 00:10:04 people who's not being able to do, and they'll do it in cashless. So Ms. Iris, who is that because it's also, because it's also pepate, we're trying in Jakarta, the other than the grand final from the grand final, putri, Indonesia, I want to say that this is a work
Starting point is 00:10:30 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, the banking our, our people, certainly, people who are who maybe not know how much who
Starting point is 00:10:40 who used because of the fact that's very, you know, the way that's about, to the way to get back and, after the time, while I was, I was, they're wringat, berkringat, like that.
Starting point is 00:10:55 They're, that, that's not, that's not, that's not, then, can be able to be seen-eering, and, and, I want to say that, this is the way to can't even from the money from
Starting point is 00:11:10 from the Ministry of the money, from from the bank and from from from the bank number. So, so that's not to beaughty the Ministry of Social. If, if there's that didn't take, in the time 30-day-hary, they're re-and-in-enrakening that's the Comentryan to the Unions. So, so we're transparency,
Starting point is 00:11:31 we try to... ...sovany that's... who's who's just making, there's more than then, there's a lot of, then we're going to, there's not that's going to there's a great thing
Starting point is 00:11:46 we're still, especially if this this is really, but he's just, but he's been many years, now, maybe he's got a
Starting point is 00:11:57 or the other and the other and then, he's just the So, the rest of the So that's important to motivate that we can't even because in the year
Starting point is 00:12:09 five, before they're we're doing graduation, we're we're doing so, so this, this will be a, uh,
Starting point is 00:12:20 the, uh, for they can't be that. I'm going to talk, this graduation and digitalization,
Starting point is 00:12:28 or essence digitalization of the for the social. This is to context of COVID-19. Yeah. This, if we can look, realisation Bansos and the people of UMKM, this, mon-maf, may not? Now, that's, if you're going to bea-a-carsa-digitalization
Starting point is 00:12:48 of the payersed, it's done in the year, in-a-one-16, and, like, and why now, that's why, now, now, is now, but, there's still, There's a lot of Yeah, so maybe java-timur, the fiber-optic is just two percent. Siap.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Fibre optic, then, we, on the Jumat to come-mary and then, if we're going to if we want to packet data in the
Starting point is 00:13:20 of the local, and the area of the In Jawah Timur, 8,501, we need to we need about 102 million. Why I want we exercise
Starting point is 00:13:36 bantuantepropp for Desa Kota in the form of packet data internet, because first, we need to make clinic Bumdes with tutorial that can be accessed free. He will make some
Starting point is 00:13:51 passwords, if he's a tutorial, if they're coming, If he's been, tutorial is if they're going to do, tutorial is to make sure, I want to say that if we're not, that we're
Starting point is 00:14:05 we're going to be the COVID this, this, it's going to get to the era digitalization. So, then, the process to
Starting point is 00:14:16 build the plan I'm, this is efficiency that we're What we can't do? We don't have to come from the room.
Starting point is 00:14:25 We don't need to be around, let's come out of commodas, and the rest of us. The most of the Bumdes, this is we have been around so that's about
Starting point is 00:14:41 so that's the mulla if you're coming this tutorial, if it's tutorial, if it's tutorial, if it's tutorial, This is a clinic BUMDASC,
Starting point is 00:14:53 we're doing inovation top 99 in KemenpANRB, then then move again top 45, Lollos again. I mean, we want that the people people
Starting point is 00:15:06 control BUMDS that can get tutorial in a free, how this is reductive cost that's more bishops.
Starting point is 00:15:15 And we're we're going to for the MKM. For MQM, this we've been we've beenbanked one last, so there's dashboard
Starting point is 00:15:25 for sector pangan, there's spot for sector per-dagan. So, we're this dashboard Dolan and dashboard Dahan. This,
Starting point is 00:15:34 kind, must be socialization. If, if, if, in Jawa-Timur this, data, which isaiah,
Starting point is 00:15:41 $9,000, $8,997, of 8, almost 9.8 jubkm in Javadimur. 54%, so betrb, Javadimur, this is support by UMKM. Now, almost 9.9 jute, the plaguers. And now, how in the era digitalization this, if Jack Ma, said, In 2030,
Starting point is 00:16:11 all of the $85% that will be on-line. If that's the trend of, then the people of ultramicropon that has to be in the area digitalization. Now, how then we can support them? First, we've made the system first, dashboard this with what's with the other than what they can
Starting point is 00:16:41 they can't even when they want to access because there are many features that we're here, but that's smartphone, how many who have smartphone, especially ultramicro, ...theirmares of the school. How many who have smartphone?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Lalo, why, we're doing exercise to support to what, canter of the Duralha? Because if, with using access to the Lurhan and Desa, the kids who still have used using daring, because we, on 18 August this will have been made top-mucas-o-cobes-cobes, of the learning, but still blended learning,
Starting point is 00:17:34 so it's a mix, between tatap mucca and daring. Now, if we, maybe, may notepa, BALADESA, or BALAKM can gooboom, BUMDES can gobun, and then-diccan can gobun. And in the time of the time they also
Starting point is 00:17:52 can't even know the vision-missi-candidat PILQaeda. This, is, really, of the 19thapotan in Jawa Timur, this will Pelkata serentat. So they can still be able to so, the peopleaweasan political, the un-dewasan democracy,
Starting point is 00:18:09 can be able to support, UMKM, and Bumdes also can support. Yeah. Yeah, bu, this, pandemic, this, is quite disruptive to have activities, economy, social, social, culture,
Starting point is 00:18:26 and other, right, this I'm going to in the end of the discussion I'm going to about the future
Starting point is 00:18:35 the future of the future of I'm going to to the I'm I'm to constructsickan
Starting point is 00:18:43 this in in context in a woman or people to whatever, whatever that
Starting point is 00:18:51 relevant for Indonesia, so that's able to comegul to come in the future. How about, when I'mpLS, the most of the community, for SMA, SMK, in Jawa Timur,
Starting point is 00:19:06 on virtual, Tengal 13 July on the last. I'm saying to them, Mackenzie predicts that 20-30,
Starting point is 00:19:16 Indonesia is to make 7. See. Press, Waterhouse, Cooper, predicts to 20, 50, to make 4. What's what will be in the
Starting point is 00:19:29 who are the teenagers, especially, they're who are SMA, they're who's SMK. So, we've had to have to and not only that the the guru,
Starting point is 00:19:42 I've often I've say, the guru, There are the moretenths, that 20, 30, McKensey has predictions Indonesia Big Seven, that press Lodranosk 20-50 is big board. Who who's who's who is in the
Starting point is 00:19:55 people, that? There's position like that, perspective this has to clear in the matter of the guru. Because in the co-dination PEMPRO is SM- M.MK, then the guru SMI-SMK
Starting point is 00:20:09 should clear to give this to the other Now, the murid the mores must be made, that you're going to be the people to be the last time in 20-50.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Because that, the sameanatap the next-depan-the-pans for Indonesia in the Mata Dunya, they also to have been to bea-beignate
Starting point is 00:20:35 that their with Indonesia to beacquited with the smanguect of their. So, the same-sacembourging perception that's I think that's all right
Starting point is 00:20:49 all the elements. Now, in the dalam it, it's all the world, all the agamac, all the bahasa, some of the area, the same
Starting point is 00:21:02 the guy and women. I think, I really, the, the, the, the problem,
Starting point is 00:21:08 person, and the people other than the al-Qaeda or Pilgras, we're talking about. In fact, ma'am, it's relative. Yeah. So, if this, what is, there is,
Starting point is 00:21:22 do you, this, we can we're always about the senjangangue, but I'm kind of thinking this is also about the senjankan of the yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:21:33 How, too, for we, to, but, two of those. Yeah, I'mel the I'm taking the between the area. So,
Starting point is 00:21:44 yeah, the same Amil, we're we've been campaign how much the
Starting point is 00:21:53 of the program our program to to make so in Jawa Timor. So in Jawa,
Starting point is 00:22:02 Tava, Asia, Pacific. Yeah, there's, South collaboration. South corporations, because of the the other, the countries that are more than are much, and there's. So it's the same,
Starting point is 00:22:16 Jawa, Jawa, Jawa and Jaya, why. Why. Why, why the Java, why the South is the So we want to we're going to the same of the different even though it's not much between java timur of the north and java'imur
Starting point is 00:22:31 the south then if problem java timur the humuskinan perkotaan is the paroomian per-despinan the detail, yeah, incha-awo so to
Starting point is 00:22:45 to build based on the we'll beaugh, we have we'll make we'llhalla, now, this is now between
Starting point is 00:22:56 the other and south and the now, now, now, if I'm if I'm if I'm
Starting point is 00:23:06 am, this is all, it's all based computer, so, can't be, I mean I'm not, I'm not as I can't be engineer,
Starting point is 00:23:17 because he knows five minutes after he's got to work, he's got to score, that's then, will then, will come down on the layer of and in the layer of and he can
Starting point is 00:23:28 make make-stor-stinging at the one batch of their the, that's relative, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:23:37 now, Now, the question is, not an equality, not not, but that information is to to come to or not, to the sumber
Starting point is 00:23:53 of SMB who have qualifications, for the case, that's about or not I think with,
Starting point is 00:24:03 with, pro-active all this, so maybe There's the other elements of strategists that's other, same-same, information that can do you can do do with group what's-as-a-as-a-as-a-oh,
Starting point is 00:24:23 that can make make sure that the message that's some time this can be accessed by someone, especially, sometimes that's sometimes that's the last, that's information, that's I don't know why,
Starting point is 00:24:37 telad, but I'm not yet I'm going to be that's been 20-town-ter-hacker many more than the women. But in the way, the more than the more than the same. The more than the same,
Starting point is 00:24:55 more than the woman. But access information, this, I'm often, I also I also, then, then access information, sometimes a lot of the same-a-a-a-a-lambat, that's just, I think,
Starting point is 00:25:12 if we can't if we're in Javad-Timur, because F-O-Nia, paper optic-ne, just over 62%, this is that's the comeanked, especially the Capubbata which we want to
Starting point is 00:25:25 to make make make to make sure that Javatimur this, can, rata-rata-rata-of-G. But, but, that when the packet data is more.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, yeah, just to 5G now. Bu, I'm, this is a sort of co-warmatant for I'm going to be and, and, I'm sure, the people can
Starting point is 00:25:46 also make sure and I'm can't end up, I'm going to say, but with two questions, and, and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:25:54 and, they're just, exactly, but this, I design, the question, is that's in the way that's in the end up in the end up in the endangue in the
Starting point is 00:26:06 middle, that the president of the women? We've already, have been, have been president of a okay, okay, that,
Starting point is 00:26:15 the two, that, I'm going to cheerleader, cheerleader, who, what, say,
Starting point is 00:26:23 that, that, we're going to, we're going to, if we're, if we have to be a one in 2004-5? The thinking that has been
Starting point is 00:26:34 to be able to be. Yeah. So, Gussur, I always said that we must make that we can do that we can do. Amen. Bukoviva, matur-noon. Thank you, thank you,
Starting point is 00:26:51 thank you, B'UUUHUHUKATTS-WATTS-WATTS-WATUUUUUU. We'll as soon as possible, said, Pat Gita. Asap, pass up. Passap. Give, give the power of our time in Jawa Timur,
Starting point is 00:27:02 Pakita. Yep, sure. Thank you, Mawakshu. Thank you, Mawakshu. Abakato.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Al-Ahmatua. Thank you. My, Tuman, Koviva, governor, Provincy, Javit,
Starting point is 00:27:14 which has been per long-lebar since the small, until the class of college,
Starting point is 00:27:19 and, and, And, it's the future of Indonesia that's jayed in 2045. This is Endgame.

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