Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Putting Yourself Out There | Endgame ft. Noni Purnomo (Part 2)

Episode Date: October 30, 2020

Di dunia yang masih didominasi oleh gaya kepemimpinan maskulin, wanita kerap kali harus mengikut arus atau menahan diri. Kisah Noni Purnomo mengajarkan kita bahwa adaptasi budaya, diskriminasi, dan stereotipe adalah hal lumrah dalam hidup. Masa kuliah dan awal karir Noni di Blue Bird jadi pengingat bahwa demi mendobrak norma-norma lama, penting untuk tidak terjebak dalam zona nyaman dan memberanikan diri untuk “nyemplung” tanpa melupakan hal-hal yang membuat kita unik.

Not that many people were interested in engineering also on that time. There are several. Ouch. Wow. This is Endgame. How about, the predacatance, to get to get a solution or resolution? Well, during my dad's time,

I got better than my time. Because, maybe, erraty also, And if I can't say there is a privilege for being a woman, being the only women in the room, it's there's privilege yeah, you know. Yeah, that's like I'm going to be sure, so. So, so, so, do you know, like, do you know, people, like, toadjok, too, is too, So, so I think, sometimes I came as a surprise for them, because what's like, because of the people,

because of the time, that, still, you know, still more so I think there is always a good side for everything. Now, this is the name is, if the woman was no matter how emotional they were, if we're just, what we're saying what do you? What do you? What do you? So, I think that is one of the thing that

my message was that I'm here to find a solution that's good for everyone. Bluebird is to one of the other not to make up to make businesses of the best quality of service. So we also give to the best quality of service. So we also give us to anyone who will include training

to, to make the layanation. So, because we, that from the first, we always, we're not even we can't I think every era we've made upticked that,

which is recently we collaborate with our so-called competitor, so-called competitor, so, so, so, so that's every era that's actually, we always collaborate. Because we're not sure we're not living and the market is so big. And it's not efficient anyway, so, so. So,

that's what's the way that's to be be to be be and be negociation or be discursy. Okay, I'm going backtrack a little, from the other things that's interesting this, that correlations with the experience Naniw, when did Tharakanita? It's, there?

What did you learn in Tarakanaita that's made, to be able to do with people with people whoop, supir-golab, and, and, It's not in Tarakana. It's like that's kind of pergauling in the room, because I'm so used to.

But in a way, in a way, in the way, I don't differentiate more, people, more than what people, or more like, you're the same, that. But, um, but the shaping I was in Tarcaquanita, it's more to the marcing band, that's the disciplinan that, yeah. I think that is extremely important, and it really shaped my character in that. But that's because from the from the little, I was actually, that's from the little, that's always

to draw-doronging, so I'm not too, you know, you just face whatever. So more your dad than your mom, who was the influencer? That's up to the point, this is a story that's a little, is, really, if you're thinking. I think I was about 13 years old. We're at home, I'm two, I, and my dad, I was living, I was living in school,

We're at the living room, we're in living room, we're looking at the living room, we're at home to have come to 3 in the morning, we're both, so we've got to, because we're going to be in, when it's in the room, there's been in the living, there's a maling, in the table. This, we're in the living room.

Security, can, in the front. Now, my, so, so, so, to be in the back to be in the back to be able to be able to be it's so that he went to the front to pangue security. Sementara, I was my weapon, that lighter, and bygone. Oh my god. He's like, yeah, but...

Maling is? So, so the maling, it's from the Tentangue, we're in the end of the topok, right? So, I'm like, so I'm like, but maybe she Maliki, I think, this is a guy, like, so he's not like you. He's not too much. Like he's gothar, but maybe he might have thought

bygone, maybe, what, like, I don't know, but, that's because kung fu, because, because, you know, I was 13. So, I was 13. So, like, yeah, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, you just, you just, you're just,

you're just, the role. My mom is the balancing part. So, so I'm always, you know-shae-can-cared and I was a nerd. So I was a nerd abys and tomboy abys, so, so I'm balancing. I have to learn nari jawa,

and then, culture, tarit-tari-an. So, all of the seri-mahmer-Khii, all of, like, d'i-Baliki, to try-piring perna, jawa-perna, Jawa, what's having the feminine side, and the fact that I learned from her is, two-two-two-nano, nana and I'mma and Ibu-shae,

two-douan, they're caring to have the food. This is... You know, love is, you know, comes from food. So, the food, so, so, always... ...beckyapal, like, if the persuad of food, and I, I was so much-the-and-soil of food,

and I was so happy. I was so happy every time I was I'm like that's what I learned. And then, with the kids also, so I cook for them. So love is expressed from food. That's what I'mu said, the culture. Very good. Then the decision to go to the University of Newcastle in Australia in Australia, in Australia, who played a part?

Your, your father, your mother? My father. Okay. Industrial engineering. Yes. Special engineering actually, it's really has been a injurean from my parents. Because I think on that time,

when my nennet my sonnets I was a law, yeah, gendousin'amines, my generation of my trend is engineer, so I was encouraged to take engineering as a subject. When that, I'm not just about my people who's still in the other-negrie. Now, so that's not just in Australia just,

you know, actually, I wanted to study in the US. It's just, I'd like to go to the UDAP. But... Mm-hmm, that's... Mm-hmm. ...mackenna, it's been... But you went to the other city, San Francisco, which was better.

Mankan'a. Because of Newcastle, I don't know if you know where... University of Newcastle is, it's north of Sydney, you know, when I was there, it was really, really mining town. Now, actually, that is the one that built my character because it's all the people, and tatuant, can you imagine, this is a mining town

that there's just bar and coal mining. So, you know, those are the people who I see every single day, if you're in a little bit more than to the other jowans, like the air force base, still just same-as-managed. It's so male-dominated. Now, um, until, after that,

after that, from one-an-a-an-a-an-a-cathed, because not that many people were interested in engineering also on that time. There are several. Oach. Wow. Wow. Wow. Male-dominated. Very male-dominated. Wow.

Yes. One of the female-dominated place is when it's atara-khanita, which is extreme, right? So, um, so... So, um, so I've been from from the women, then, then back again to mostly,

lucky-lake-lake. It's too many men that's... ...mills that I'm going to make optional subject that musty try to commerce. So, like, like, an engineer in a guy-lake-lake-lagi, you know?

You want to go to cars? or commerce, or where, that's what I'm like that. So that was me then. And so that was really interesting. But that's what I'm building character because it was dumbed. I didn't know anyone. I didn't even from the other,

tibaba to the small that at 5 o'clock just not can't see people. One other just in the road. But Australia is like that, like that, you're still if you're sitting here, maybe, but it's more than,

this is more than it's Newcastle, but Newcastle is a place where my character was being built a lot, actually, from being independent, from how much of how appreciating different cultures, because that's, because it's many from culture, culture, from where, too, I was that was that was the business.

Okay, business what? So, when I was my parents rented a townhouse. Okay. Is it's three-camar it, there's just wa-sewing again, because of my first business. That was my first business, which is living room.

Did you? There are people, Indonesia, There's people who's people. Okay. So, this is about... This is before Airbnb? Before? We're talking about 1990.

So, so, so, how it's going to be learned, how it's the landlord, so, yeah, the whole, living room just, just, the cost of course,

the other than who has comear, so I learned a lot in Newcastle. I really learned a lot, I had no entertainment, and the other people who had to time zone, like we can, so we can. So time zone, it's made in Daytona,

so, really, the racing, if not, the punching, so, I was a complete tomboy. So, some of the time of time, when when, when, when, when, when, was like, This is the same about the same time when I was noton Kung Fu. There's rampok like, there's, you know, like they're being racist, like, that's, I know, my man, all, and many, but what's out of the other than I'm

in, then I'm going to resisting. So I was just, I was just, I'd be rescissioned, and they're, they're, that, the other, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. So, so, they're, they're going to be, don't mess with her, man. Like, like, you know, it's like, it's like, you know, it's like, like, you know, it's like, in a way.

So I guess that's one of the really interesting drama that's really, many of the stories in the stories. Any pitfalls when college? Of course, of course, many, I mentioned, not-kenal of who,

first came out of the other country, and then, Toffel, pass-pas-an, not even exposed to have been in English from there's from there's been from there. Now, from that's it, you know,

I really couldn't understand what they're saying. Yeah, that's about... Yeah, that's about, yeah, how are you, so I think, they're, how old are you? So, every time I'm 18, I'm, I'm 18, that's... It's, it's...

It's really, like, the serious one is that's my first year I failed almost every single subject. No kidding. Because I'm not going to get it. Lundasanita. Exactly. Now, so...

Tarakanita is like the elite. I know, I know. But, the, that's not get to, because the istilas, can be da'. Math, it's, if math, if math, it's always advanced, like, or whatever, it's all about, but, it's like materials.

Okay. It's, is it's different, that's, that's not-gareth like that's before-that-flanking-bunking-banker, like materials, like, that's-gut-such-you-gut-git-sue, so, yeah, so many-a-can-you-there-old-stress issues, because it's from home-sick, like, must be learn, all of it, so I think it was a really great experience, and at that I was really great experience,

not even when it's people, you know what I'm not even what, that's not even when it's not even Dramatic. Was it part of the culture shock or cultural differences? It is a culture shock. It's a personality shop, because not ever in the room.

Dullo, before I was really close to my parents, so, and I never wanted to study abroad. There, there are kids who want to come in come in I was like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, why was I being, like, like, like, like, like, it's like, that's like that.

But, you know, I'm really grateful that they did that. If not, I never grew up. Yeah. So, really, really, be learn, many and character building in there, and, character building in there, in in leadership. Now, the leadership is, how much?

Now, we're in Indonesia, can't, you, student in the University of Newcastle. Now, we have to go to the cultural week, like, I think, what is my skill? Oh, I know the dances, Indonesian dances. But lucky, all, is it. We're going to be what to be what to be what? Okay, and we're trying to do.

Okay, great. So, yeah. And so, so, so, so. And they're, they're doing, do you, do, do this. The other, okay. or 13 people, I'ma little bit. I'ma again, but I'm just trying to runnard so what's what, what's going to do?

That's the same, you know, um, I'm gonna be synchroningroning. Then I videotape the practice. Now, from there, then I show it to them, okay, like, from marra, from, soarer-shras-shras-wrac-shrac-shrac-grat, then why don't you have a look, you know, if you want to embarrass yourself,

then by all means, I'm not going to be there, they were encouraged to practice. It's, that's actually, tarisaman, we're still up until to do you endang to Sydney, to come back to Canberra. So that's, I think, it's one of the proud moment, like, and everybody was happy, so it's. Good. So a lot.

Actually, my biggest learning is really. Any of your college mates who who are you? There's who are people? Yes. Wow. There are people who are people? No, we're not.

We're not. Oh, that's not. Oh, that's okay. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah. So, there's, so there, my friend, he's in chemical engineering. That, that's, if I was... chemistry, is one of the difficult subjects.

And he's really good. So, I like, if, if, if, if, that's like five days before the other than I would go over to his house. So it's really interesting. If you talk to him, Bawkew, brought up, man, no, I'm going to take, butangana, and then they will actually cook.

You know, I'm the only girl. It's good enough for them to see a female, so, it's really, really, really, it's really, then, and then, that's, that, in the room of their that that's the people's in the some of the people, there's a bitter mathematics,

there's a good chemistry, so it's a heaven for me. So if you're going to come to come to him, his name is Bambang. He's, he's saying, this is a brain sucker, he said. Dattent, notting, I'm bacayin' know. So that's important.

So he's still with us now. Well done. There's one other than University of Newcastle, industrial engineering also. But he's a much generation in the back, kind of 10 years apart. That he also is still with us in Bluebird. But my best friend is still with us in Bluebird, Simbaughamang.

Okay, and fast forward, Amil MBA in San Francisco. Why? Because, that's everyone who had got MBA, well, one, you know, when I graduated from industrial engineering, can, actually, I'd like to work at Dubeard. So, actually, when graduated, I wanted to work,

I wanted to work, have experience in the world, in Australia. But when, to, in two companies, not get-trimed, because industrial engineering, female, when that was actually sexist, It's like like that's like, when are you planning to have family? The question is like that's the reason also, so I think that's the reason also, so I'm not,

not get-trima. Now then I had to come back. When I come back, I still express my intention that I need to work somewhere else to get the experience. Sementara, Nennaisle-Sah Almarhumah, and mya-sha-ya-sha-njur-nur-nur-nur-nur-nur-nur-nur- I'm a person who does not take or, so for me, there is always a choice of an end.

So to choose both. So, because why, my background is industrial engineering. I understand that the thinking process is important, is good to improve the business processes. Can Bluebird this, even as a transportation company, the core basis is operational excellence. So my thinking process in the processes better,

it's from the maintenance department and operations department. But one thing that I felt on that time that was lacking within the organization, because this is an organization that is built, from garas in room, so what is lacking is that the marketing strategy to the, to the way how to how much. Then another part that was lacking is, the one of the best of the business point of view,

it's the financial acumened. So, from that's what I think I, I have learned from out. So in the morning, that's how the Jakarta Convention Bureau came in. Because in Jakarta Convention Bureau, that was the first time, it was, yeah, Paa Osi-Bo, was that,

right? It is a pure marketing agency to market Jekata for my destination. So it was a very interesting job for me, actually. But because because of the BlueBird, so I work at the Chicago Convention Beiro from the beginning, from 8, and then, at 1, 12, work at the Bluebird, that includes Saturday.

Now, hence, no social life. This is Endgame. The episode Endgame, the other people who want to be able to evi come to us and we want to be able to collaborate because at the end of the day we can't be able to make

significant impact if only bluebird