Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Rian Fahardhi: Opini Publik & Kebijakan Bercerai, Bisa Rekonsiliasi?

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

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because I'm at least to beangoon in the amount of 1,000 people I'm saying this is a parsecre that's that I'm always percée with Rian that's from

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the guru honorer now now are there's got three k k and and

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always I'm always always Tartampar Ketika'u-saac-you-pagy before, then, Palling Dool-in Rian, if before she'll be in school. Because

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like we're gonna'u-a-half, if I'm gonna'u-shaun-taught, I'm gonna'am-a-jure. And I'm just takjub, that's, that why profesies that's so much mulia this, in myn't-campacan. Because I'm-brenu-bri-bri-bless, from access, from the methampatan,

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really sure many and what I'm making I'm not sadd when I'm looking to

see I'm my book my my book and I'm going to make the number of the number of eight

people is, is umanum but, I'm not know, why they're still to be able to be able to be able to

with mybousshae with a condition that so I'mperiatin can and there that even even

not even make alas kaki the hand the hand an an there is there that the painikit and that

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that I'm want, I think upah, I think about minimal, I'm going to be able to I'm going to be Indonesia. This is my thinking I. I'm not there to pickirance of Indonesia, I want to beaara

I just want to say that I want to say I want to change my because I'm uphaed my life maybe Ibu say maybe school of my that I'm going to and I'm actually

effect from that I not just want to make a lot of I'm going to make sure from the reshancement from the reshaping my own way I mean, sir, sir, pa, the school of the air.

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we're trying to put in, even, I'm sure, I'm sure, yeah, the, you know, because this school We're in the country, we're going to be able to

get a lot of saddy. Even data now there's 27, school that's not in alirilistrict. And even if we see data BRIN, if

not the Baye Yun Librianti, he's peneliti BRIN, he maparin, though. So, until now, the school has

also ... what, more yeah, more so much the number of course $530,000 that's from

S&A. This is still one school and I believe that if this not the intervention

if this not beresin yeah maybe we're not going to come on from we're

this. This how much reconciliae, photo with with the same and the emasan that's often

articulasicals by the people in level of the area and the busat. Finally, Rian, meniadari one thing, that we can't

get on our own we can't be able on the same. Ruan, you've been

all over every province, see. We're being Rihinitiatiatiati lewerewit, a piece of a lot of

muda, we're doing, he's more borker-bishop energy-lo-lop-lo-wap the creativity and, the power

brandin-in-na that we want we can't that each-masing Generations, Purspective, but not only multidiscipline.

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lintas bidang. And how the predekatant that's tried with, if the language Dr. Arie

Huellach, penulis, the long-path, transgenerational we're notepatia, Pati. We're not we're not people who are

really benalue one of other and other I'm really I'm going in in front that generation that

the other senior senior we're we're that first not not to look we're

really there There's there's a perasance, that if you're doing this, try to get uprored, don't be judge. Like, as a example, comearerame, can't bringabarant bender, one-piece. Gerti d'ul-due, that's what? Don't tithuble.

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the way the more aware about how much the country this will be the same, but what the above

just not just enough just enough just to just I have to be able to learn with I have been a lot of how we can be able to be a

individual that's good good, I think, is we are, we're really, really our a part of our, we're in our own, the aim, we're to come from, that has to be it,

that's, you know, to have, you know, because, I'm I'm in fact I'm sure you know what I'm because of course

tuntas tuntas he's he's about what what he'll gawing he'll be he arrahing

to where the ability skilling he know that if he he's cluel gambilomble jurusan

this but if he not give bangin specific knowledge like kathal yeah he I'm going to bea-muching, he's

maybe I'm going to learn course, or try penedicianal that I've got skill new, then I've got to make sure, but I'm not menugue too, but the tango job-y-javentia are in two generations this. For how we can't

make sure that way, because if two-douaning not saling-merty, it's going to It's justa. Because of gap generation, Margaret Mait, the otheri, theory of gap generation, that here in the day, too, there are three conditions,

especially. That's the end of the current, people senior, like, who are young, like, the example, trend, gadget,

like, the example of the trend that's more than, people, who, the senior, I'm still, now, that's more than you know,

the other than you're sure, that's the other thaner. So, backingingham. We need to wisdom. We need to bejaxanaan to genera senior to get-sarry-shares key-in-it-to.

And to get-ed it, and to get-in-it-empathy. Then, the last, you-val-Noahari-bilang in one podcast-in-law, that one of the crisis the samepathy, that's the crisis the MAPTI. Mankukechapinguekechapinginging of the body today.

Empathy teradapingor, empathy terhaping, people in rural area, empathy to beacicemes, 80-year-eighths, there's that's just-gook-git-git-a-git-a-a-git-a-a-a-cac-a-a-cac-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ssach. We've been-core-rereight-rean-res. So, how, in-Ru-Ran, for how many

we can intervene the time in the time of the last maybe by the people that competent today that's been used with focus to look the condition

there is in grassroots condition that that's beenerous in there be rentas d'nors too, kempiskinan extreme brantas d'u how much the language of public goods

that can bemoctrations with back that's just, that's all, I think, of the way how we're really, just to be sure,

so just focus just just to make sure than people that's just make sure or memmulkan private. This,

there are some of the point that you have said, one of the empathy, or empathy. I've been

several times in the context corpouration. There, there's a The company Microsoft, which is where's the newfoundian Nakoda,

from Steve Balmer to Satyana Della, who's up until now, still made sure, madelebacked upon the pola to the topempingan, between the same, and the current,

the current, if he's metemned every week, with Latinan-Lat-Ned-N-N-N-y-d-d-n-y-d-d-y. That's what did bicarate-sac-sure. notka, the bottom line, not an activity

corporate for a week before you. But what's you're going to do you know, what you can't? There's a

one that he manceng, there's that he bachapu, there who other can make barbecue,

there who there's a that. Now, with the communication like that, and,

he's not, he can attention attention to beit to be in batin in the different people who's people who bansuble in 5 to 10 people

and it's slalim in communication from the same asing people to the to the abutuaguergues to the people in the same thing to supplier, contractor, vendor,

mitra, and that's all right. That's in the two two years, the value of the company, and it's been many times lipat. This is minging,

that point, that's the value creation or pembouhanes in context many things, it can be with as far as pemimping,

is in the roomat, in school, institution social, it can't attention, sympathy, or empathy. Now,

this, if I'm going to be to put, point in the before you, I'm going to a woman, a girl,

maybe gajy-n- very-bias-sha- Yeah, right? Yeah, can? I think, the peran guru is important

It's very people's about in Indonesia there's 3 million from TK from SMA and majority from 3

million people not too not too did gai with a kind of can't how

we can get back if we're if good Guru that, is a tumpuant, or handalant.

Because if at home, it's overhaping, but if at least the school, guru, beraping, in front of eight people, 20, or even

even, even, 200. Scalalalya, is to be partanguaped, more in school. But, scale that's related with

quality of who who's-a-gared. Yeah, Scalahcadown or scale whosovoysk-bara, or scale-bias-bias-a-bias-an-a-ha-a-a-a-vis-a-law. This, it's very structural. And, the last, maybe, what I'm going to say,

can you know, you're seeing, on the teemasan. 88% from all the roomat-gat-gahed in Indonesia, it's be-kepalalalal-a-coma that not-per-in-red-in-a-1.

93% from electorate noblas in the area and pusat it's not not put in the indicted

to get rid to be able to emboating if it's fundamental the number the number the amount of

38% succour to 5% 93% succour to 6% socrus to 5%

sooooo because can't to have process process process sensationalization sensationalization

and festivalization is kind of with the opinion without penguasan facta. This,

if I'm really very correlations with the commasance that maybe still still

but I still optimistic if we if we to recruit guru from

percental that the most down with the same layak. There's no other reason.

We can't give uptimism that's more more than maybe the kind of in the kake-a-and-a-

-a-a- or maybe your-a-a-a-a- pan-an. Today, we're never-bent during-bunding the cemassan,

I. I, that's about the bedanour this isha'u'u'a yeah maybe when in the same Burrani Bungarno

d'u maybe he's just so much but but be better fear and

anxiety mususiness in the time Prakamerdea can cleatant Pekin Vodalism

Konolea what Colonialism, the jada. Now, the beauntment is, the threating to not,

cleatown, not natural. And that, you know, the generation mudahary this, monaaf,

many who know, people who are not, the stigma, them, the stigmation that the generalization

as he as well, because, I'm, because, I'm inundraiseries, to look really, the way to see how much

it's been able to give back in a small environment, so not be able to disarmataka. Same thing with, here many so much so much the casemassant,

terutama, soarer, as far as far as as as the generation muda, that's the number of here is, making

tumbled. So, it's been called as bonus demography. It's, beaubot. But we're about it's all. Obatn't have to bejointed.

Today we can't look many people get back on the that's making us malagest justro chemise. One of the lot of theat satirious in in the light penidikin. Banymuched.

How many today see? There's been a day, de'rida, de, in a day. But I'm going to be right, why, why, we're going to be like, like, not serious, like, wringling legacy that's good,

that's why, I'm going to say that Indonesia not can be able to be emas, if, if, if, if, a lot more than, always be made-che-mas. And, only with,

jujured on the quechemassan it We can't be as a lot. Conto. Ketitigurant. There's barren, man, he said, menhawak, make out-out,

there pessimism soal PHK that jimelaguerg 10-000 that's not berned because it's

I'm afraid. I juster said to book the datania out of all, Because of Riharutriam, and under you're like a lot of people, and you're under the sameasana,

maybe even with human, and maybe also bekerja with good. It's a doctor. But, maybe, there's doctor also who who, who, who, who,

not-puny-jasa. We don't need to beattanking. Not-but-to, we want to know the painact we're, in the way, in the way in the way in the we can't be able to find out of

maybe there's even if you're going to be able to because we're doing the problem that's how. If not not barney make uphue that condition we're not bad back back

it's a lot of that. It's a daser, and, yeah, back back again that each generation has been wrong job that's the legacy

but if you're back, but if you're all right, there's a lot of people who are this always deepingering or not deletable political exclusion, we're not dilapidate in penetuan,

penetuan, in the publichation, in the same serious, not can't be able Indonesia emas, bonus or miscegetra can,

and, as ajoration, as a certainerang, maybe we need. Maybe we need to need a new, we're doing so,

so if you're doing, if you're not going to hearin we're going we're just in

meaning, you know, and that's doing that the same pejuangue perjouang

Rengas-D-Klock D'A, D. D.C. Kuhnah, H.R. Salé, Say,

M. B.M.D. A. Nulik. Karno and Bung Hatta, this is what we're doing, pa. We're not.

There's no, there's plibatting that's serious. If there, pastivalization. Pasti just the pageg, gimmick,

di-pertonton-can that we're with a lot of that's not not-nata. And, here, the many people

people, we're always bong-bank-gank-k-k-k-k-a-k. This system that I've done There's this program This is my

It's good as big big team But I'm ever remember I believe in you I believe in you I'm sure I'm sure

you can make robot I'm sure you that from Makasar can make AI that maybe

can be able to makeasar to more because I'm people who are people who are people who Tidore who

thinkal in Poulosan that concept concept capulawan that's good good that's the

that's young young people today want to hear and sial we don't never hear that that

yeah the jangka pendek to bes by activism yeah

the the end menh the abati with legislation the long

to beobotty with penedican I'm going to be able to bein'nitken because, if I'm in person, it's structural as well. Nati I'll get you point point you're just being given. In Asia Tengara, book who's

written asia Tengara, this is the same this is 75,000 plus minus. Jumlae buchu which that's that's written 140-jutor

Ibarat-cata kata-a-cata about asia-tengarah this isernercical only 0.26% from allure book that for the

area that population 7,000 which is 9% from the population the population dunya. Kaini

not yamong? Not Cengli? Soilayah that's 700 million 9% of population Dunyahs Disholk 0.26%

from all the book And majority of 375,000 books 750,000 books that is not Asian-Tegara Now this

if I'm my view I'mbong with with bagian from the glisah

many people that, that's the we're quite can't be about the katea-a-a-a-a-could. We're-could we can't documentation the story, information

like Kake-A-Nadha or Ibu-U-A-K-A-K-A-U-B-A-Bu-A. Now, this is the partama, which, literacy. The transa-Bank-Bas-i-an-majus that's manifestation in commitment, that bullet

to redepent not only literation but numeracy if you're if you're to lookur literacy and numeracy for the kids

young 15 years ago I'm saying I'm saying PISA Program for International Student Assessment

that makes proficiency lingual communication and proficiency STEM science technology engineering mathematics

Indonesia number 69. From 81 Singapore is Singapore is number 1 Tyeongk number 2 Yeah

I'm Dambakka How much we're Mowbrough position we from number 9 to

number 5 minimum or number 4 because we population the number 4 in

the number 3 because we're democracy the number 3 in

we're we're to democratization public goods, interleck, and the delect, and disheightraan, kesehatan, the value moral,

nilay social. But if we're backgat Diri as democracy only in context the redistribusian swara, not the redistribusian public goods,

agga, someu. Now, I'm concerned about the of the how we can can't

numberation and literati. The last maybe, the other people people are too much to say, I've

always about about 11, I've done not to read, I'm not on TV, that

if you, if you're noton on that line of that I'm I've got to, I've been a journal. And I always want to end upankan

idea. Yeah, can? Idee, that has been budu-dhaired about about about. If you're not people,

10-10-jamb, and, the t-tik-tok on button-bott-n- that, that, if I think, is it's quite be correlations,

and, and, you know, such-in-pirus, be-cored- with pen-lux-e-e- anxiety, of suicide, nothered, but in the new world

in the world of the government but if I'm in fact that I'm going to say I'm talking, activism, legislation and penedican. Mugkin so, legislations need to be how we can't we can't puttasy

not penguon hand but dissemination information lewet hapah. And not dissemination content if I'm polarisashi, but just through, and that's just to be decedic. And it's able to occur

in scientific, inciarerous, how for information that did dissemination that, it's be correlates with the importance of our to democratization

idea, mendidic, it, men, and decedasked we, how. Okay. The first,

Rian, Riharangat really from here Rihamphoan, then Riham can't until today be able to be social media Rian in TikTok, the Instagram.

This is it's hard to be mackerti until then you're thinking why can't make content in there, it's been ranket from one skill

that Rian that's cameganked and thenulis. And, And I'm notherst-hmm, And, mannulis it, not only only got just norret-n-n-n-wret.

Heartiness we need, and perlough, after we're going to reset, to becha many book, and to med-de-cat-kut-kid-in-kind-in-a-lielmuan. And what the most

important, how we're-cinted with the-in-cult-a-lis-b. How-mah-a-a-could-a-could-a-could-a-old, to make up to make uproopan, whatever whatever, whether it's acacta, or that's not,

but what the most important is, the hausan and the rest of penassarance that has always bepupu, has to be explored. Because if,

if not, with condition the biggaken that maybe not end up people in rural area, Mimpe, that's not

can't get up He's up, ma'amuck. Mucked because there's not there's a lot of but what you're trying to beckon how much

menmuking one thing that's that maybe can't help people, to get to find what

is what is what's actually important for people, I'm, I'm trying to make sure about,

the specific knowledge. The compoct this is not did We're not did not get not did not be in the room, class, but

penemuan, explorations dyr, and even if we're not sadar that this is skill. Trenata, when I was little, I'm doing that I've seen

choret, corret, ma'am, journaling. Selalue What? How? Rian reshaken. S.D.

Class 6, 5. So, if, if, there, peristew, Soampe, so-same-hmm. So-hmm, so-you-law-lawful-lawful-lawful-lawful-lawful. Maybe you can make a bit.

So, in-situ, doronging, it's really, bened-beyond-sampé-hary-day-in-a-lark-gir-a-hary-in-a-old-de-le-up-de-le-le-up-le-le-le-in-a-lost. Sorry, I've put-old, this, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, , if, if, if, if, if, is, in bitas intuisi. This is very correlates with katea kiddickan,

education you know, I'm a person guru, kake you're a lot of and burghuru or mongruy you know,

to do you know, to be imaginations and if I'm in front of I, that, that, that only can't mischinacy

and ambisiesies that's up, I'm in the room like I'm in the same'i'i'i'i'i'i'i'n't like to be in school like to insiduciusis social in anypun

that if you're role model your role model your, I'ma'u'n'u'n'u'n'u' your, a'emotle, they're who, who, who, who,

are jasasas, menuntic imaginations, and ambisy. Maybe they're not, especially explicit, you're not to say that, but they're making nuntick idea.

That's, part. Yeah, right? It's that that's that's correlation and ambition. Now, imagination and ambisi

in combination with hockey, so that's badang. So, I'm going back again, to testis or,

the pentingan mescalakan. of the from quality-dre-dhutas. From 3-gutu-a-guru, this if not-discopi, it's hard to get-a-cap-a-cure-old, sulid to get-a-a-draean

in time or duration that we want. Yeah. Yeah, right. Now, the last, I want to say what what I've been a few times I've said,

That's experiment idea. If we're gaujured, 40 jute per month, in banding 2.000, 100,000 gurus we recruit. Experiment just. That's 4 trillion a month. C. 12th billion, 48 trillion, plus TAR, 50-1 trillion.

Engarant pendidicant our own period of 700 trillion. Masa, see, not be able to be allocations. Yeah, and I'm sure that's if I'm in gaij 40 million, that's been an attorney, to people who are quallitist. I'm going to be a guru, who's trying to work in Dantara,

want to work on Google, to, belog, too. And, because they're beloc, it's very much be able to beckon-javocan that it can be correlates with Peningotan cognizant, penigatinexatine, Penaugate, Pendingcatrable, Pendingatribut, atreput, whatever.

What's important, but I'm saying, that we're in, back, back, we've got to be in a lot, the country other than, has taken off dulae, if we're still, if we're not sure, that we're back, back, a-bye-a-just, with protumbuant, but, Riham, had been wancar,

after after 10 professions, to be right for the long for the same time. Solit, too. And that's, I think, the word of the same thing. But if you're left out of that, I think that, I'm sure that

when they're really, and they're prioritized can live. Murit, who are really competent. But, guru who are qualitas, that's,

that's, the part of the company that's really serious, to be serious, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, in situation that's understack to the current. Who's what?

Who's, I think, that's what we're going to be able to criticize this. Then, then, selenutely, I also have some kind of dorongan, that, Today, generation has been burden-perat in the realisahansial that's evening to,

garrhine skilling, garrhine, the more than the people, P, P, P, P, P, Counseling. We're banding-in, with one of the

one of the Jepang that's serious about counseling, guru-concelling. From, from little, It's like how, how much didigua, how much didigestion, it's the other than Indonesia,

that's been a plan that more structured. Maybe 5, 10 years, they've already known, to make projectsicking it as what. Rian, who's been, mon-ma'af, as far by-pengalaman just, that, even, even, even, even when it's ever , back in the same thing,

to make sure, I'm, not ever there plan 10, 5,000, 5,000, not, pa. Imagine, if you

have been, it's not, in each time, the time, the same, , garrhine, kind of,

you, like you're, like you, like you, if you're, more good, more than, this,

this is, this, this is, this is, we need, we've got, we've got, more people, more than

more than didig in serious, we're going to beawean generation we're here. We've got to beerererer, the way of the generation alpha and generation Zet, too,

it's justa again, deep-pahomined. Didtambah talk, how, social media, meditick, anak,

which sial-ne-it-a-terefacation, not-perifikation, not-pun-pun-red-cation, So, yeah, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, scrolls, scrolls, scroll, actually not malta, um, but it's just, uh, scrolls, but it's gonna be able to be able. This, we're gonna scroll, no, there's more than, but justu we're

gonna,er, gonna becum,er hampa. Maka, maca, that's gonna be right, uh, uh, uh, can't bea'amara, that's time, where, where a lot of the because of what? Because why? Because today, it, like, job and job of them the same thing like

in their own, but it's always in external. AI, maybe one of the ones that we're more than the other than this more than I. Cary validations. And this is embahyakable,

because we're plan, plan, first, first, kind of the same-out, even through-locity, we're not-puneration, we're not-puneration. So, so. Mokan-a-Makhani-you-turt,

that's not-ganking not only only be able to it, to, private, like, we're, we're, we're,

but also, but also, with, with the biggaken, the biggaken-a- people, Many of Rianne like,

people that'shuehsacan, why not asexamassan that has beenersed but cedarung only to go-ikot-ikot-in'gut-a-cot-gut-a-goh-haphaqqa-hapagian the United. Come back, yeah, talk to be,

the backhazer, Padang, Ternate, that's what? So, it's right if we're serious in-pendidikin, we're making from guru do you dole.

As far as Rihambley fromling do you. Yeah. I, I'm more Jomo, not FOMO. Okay, ma.

And FOMO, this, if I'm in myro's, I know, I'm sure too much, in all the world. Yeah,

right? Yeah. So, so anything that be hype that, that's, and,

and, without, menadary. And, without any the time to be before their opinion

and the people people who are people people who are people too many than they're better than they're judgment that's when I think

that but I'm going to back again to METSOS Pengue Penguana METSOS this is very pervasive

with scale of the world-tow. The other than stuff that's over-bishop. For the other than activity ofline. For the kids'an. But not protective or not under-protective or very under-protective to have activities of the child's in-carat-cata-in-law.

Ibarat-cata-old-scarang, if you look at a-a-lank-want-you-want-di-wanty. don't, there memo, there bus, there's there's a becha, there a mobile, there's truck, there what, there's, there's, there's, it's not quite with activity offline. It's not yet.

But he never peduli. Anakiae, 9-10-jamb-10-jamb, what's all that's the way. Padall, it's like, I said, not ter-editorialization, and this is sacksican by million-an-manusia every day. Yeah,

that's about expression, expression, expression, whatever, without editorialization so, yeah,

this is the end upung to the health and all the young, and the people, they're often

doing, medial. Sdick, sedicicicit remedial. Settes a little, remedial.

Gat know how it, this kind of kind of that they're being the IPP. Yeah,

right. And it's Hasi by the people'sik, by people'stua, by people's the or people, by the people, by the people, the people, down the world, or the level of the area, or punaset. Tampa it, or combination of the slurus, this is difficult for us to get out from of the delisahing anxiety, depresi, and line, line.

Pendidica, we're going to be sagesingal narrations that's a lot of money. Bonus demography, this I've been going to penacaton 15 years to lower.

That's, that's 3 to 24% from population. From 285,000 or 70,000. But, STEM, we have to have a new-futarching,

product stem, science, technology, engineering, mathematics. If we want to conversi colam that, in the same before he has made a cutuset, want to do you have to do something, we need to do, we need a half 300-town. Now, that's how to reconciliazziation with e-emassan in 2000-5? Okay, we're tariffed again,

more conservative. We can't convertive 40% of column 70% 20%%%% $28,000%%%%% $10,000%% 10%%% why stamp we've been talking

literati, now we're going to mnemeration stamp is very correlates with the importance of the rate in Rantai Nile with peningattingentability If we're here we can't

I'm jacet 10 bagu, sucur, suor, besoky, two blotivation. That's peningotivitist. Narration Indonesia to the front is going to

bring up productivitus. And we can make up productivity with investasy in product stem. Tentunty, with doa

also. How? How? This, this, you know, very, the first, the social media

I'm about social media Profan request Mules that day we're going to be able because there's papar Nilay, nilis always, there's social media can

many people who can't make up we're not like sepersekian hard, that's all the end upaty, tibat be able

to be barbar. That social media can't be able It's like we've got back up. And it's like, wow, back up to-tipa-half, ah, it's just a-per-secreacted to be able.

He's about, uh, dula, in the time, uh, before, the time people,

can, I'm, it's, to, look, to get people, in jillatin, the pampang,

the, who, the, he, he, but, but, but,

that's not as much as far as far as far as social media, to movea, the media, too, mubah, the idea, that's the bestaner. Mawknoting, but it's not only tahn banting, but it's important too, tahn click, pa. Tahan click. Okay, we're making un-religment, because he can't make arraxed us. But, but algorithm that's just to hushabonged ushaping justaing. The same to make suretie something,

to commentar something. And it's kind of nimbung, too, with filter bubble, ecocamber. How's situation that's really that we've been making it, too. We'reteriac. What? Yeah, something that's back to us the other, is something that's like you because of the way that's why the

way that's the most important for Rihariang, this is the gawakashana Dr. Saki-Santorelli that's important to disconnect disconnect to device because

today we're more just to be able to with device even in one moment we have connected to Instagram, to TikTok to Zoom, to Google Meet and

all that's all the but lookerick-re-connect to the moment, now moment this only can't be able to be able to because we're being behind mindingalienes

that's always around how much we're not be't, besotial media, but have alternative of the gigatine

that can be minimal, yeah, minimal, a bit more, we're, we're, we're always

menackenkenken the the thing's, and it's importantlyan, it's important. Then, thenceph, how much,

we're really, serious, focus, it's just something that's important because many people, because many people

who, what, yeah, tertipu with the style passion. Pressure. Gairah.

that when that's pleasure, okay, okay. Ketka, okay. Pescent is important. But for being, yeah. Many people are young there that's not can't do

work because they because they're because, because, the situation not meducing, misal. So,

what we need to do is, to be, not men, and make hearty whatever, whatever, whatever's what we're doing something like number-hastike

or something the stym, want the kind of time 7 to 5 the gigatement, but give-haty to what we're

doing what we'rejacking because if we're not working as a full-hatie will come people who can't

have had and have skill that even and than make-and-looking to more than more more productive to the different-day-day-day-old-old-old

to point about the stem how, to make-noticant to stent, with a number that more than than just-50,000.

If you're not, the costar, I mean, we're one-one-one-one-st-tut-st-tout-stit-stit-ttack. In India, Tijuana, Tijuana, Tijuana, Tijuana, Tijuana, not-Bullochem, not-a-coucuit, not-a-coucuitt, not-buelly-couped-a-cccccccuretc.

America lupa, that's the time, T-Gococsci, T-a-Termcouc't-a-M-Termsha-MC. And, now, Huawei, it's almost en-mighed T-M-C, production microchipsy. This, this, if I'm not the same, existentials

if we're going to in the Rantai Nile if we're going to take in tatan geopolitic If we can geter from the kids from the

kind of of their and the passion for whatever yeah to corridor that is

definisition important for the joyan and the suntik by guru, the people people who

people that's that's about the because of the and the bigaping we're in the future, there ambiscite,

kaii can't for we can produce 1,000 product stem. Tamp. TANpa Peningatant production product stem

niscay we can seem more Ketagalan Dibanding the country and agaaa Tengara,

apal again Tijuana, apolag, and again other other other than Tijuana, Tijuana, Taurus,

Asia Tengara, Indonesia, 4,000 campus. Asia Tengara has 9,000 mahasisua. Tijuana, Tijuana, Tijuana, only with 2,600 campus.

We're 8,000 campus in Asia Tengara, and the half of Indonesia. But, yeah, Tijuana, Tijuana, too, can't beaughan property intellectual, with scale that more and quality that's more than

more than than Asia Tengar, it's, than America, and Europe and Japan, if we're journal scientific, 40 to 50% to

the of the people, we're we're using product they're, not HAPE, not mobile,

like, not motor, like, not oven, or, whatever, every day, There's not that's not did you know what I'm not in the yeah, right?

Yeah. That's it, I think, that's the fact that's in the level tertiary or universities. But it's

beckali with penguasan their level 15 time, yeah, they're their decade, they're number one

in the then two years last, they're all in Singapore. They have two universities that's in Peringat 10thra. Singapore has two universities

that in Peringat 20thor-Tas. Indonesia, not that, who, the top 150. That's even top 200. But this is a need ambition. Perlambi. But ambition, but ambiiii be topang

with a longca, not rhetorica. Yeah, kind? Langcah, Sorry, I'm going to be a guru. But if I'm not sure, but if I'm not,

if you're going to be able to be able to be able to be able to be the same thing. Because a person, or sisway, the school is the same, seven hours. If you're not to beattased to not evening hapes for seven hours, So's So's like they're out of school

He's making make beca He's using half a few minutes Or 1st half time To come to run From the end up Petsathe, he's called D, nah Don't make HAPE

Or if you'll look at HAPE Toll the content content This is that's all Withentle with penidiccan So, how about that, how are you? Gimana. First, the answer is Rian, more than serious,

to be able to be political, you know, and, adaptive, and it's being taraping in the world

of the work. Like, we can look here, how much effectiveness, particularly in the end of

the education, like, the example, Biasisisua, can't, can't, can't, talenta

this team this time this isa, yeah, yeah, do you know, and get part the same year I'm doing doing this. And then

Rihan, and then back from China and and be sure to get undangangang can be

there, I to come back by B.D. I'm in B.I.D. I'm a pardic pertanian So what, what, what, what, what,

like, what, yeah, and what's about the product product here today, is export with good. Even though, so-antero-China, one of one product in Indonesia, Riann, men's maddery one thing that's important to learny in China. But even China, ma'amahscied

But, Rihamal But Rihamah Soal, yeah Sohya So, I'm different I'm better, Like I'm to Beijing, I to Chengchow,

I to Henan, I'm to Kynxia, I kansas, I kansas, characteristickness is different, different. Kynisha Gurun, in Henan,

Pusat, because, yeah, in Cheng, Cicu, because in the Uphyshurt, because ofus'a, the Uyongok first later, so, after the end uprocus

about tradition, about buddaya, how much making animation so that's intellectual property. We don't talk in the area other than, it's not, it's really, perlough, the wayhameh that, so if we're, so if we're not,

I'm notepot can't one kota or two kota duke, yeah, what's the way? Yeah, what's the way? ...that's about, labortarium bestarer to come to there. And, then, I, yeah, I'd say,

I'd like... Sincen, de. Cusatin all fabric-pabric that maybe can, what, yeah, we can... We're also banged,

with product, product we. I think that's if there will, if there's a while, if there's people who are there's been a lot of here. Ruan, you're juster, kaget, Pat, past to China. Like, beda, zaman. Mon-ma'am. Because, wow, system of payeran, transportation, udara.

Yeah. So, like, oh, can't, yeah, we're like this. First world. The first world, if America, I'm a second or third world now. If it's the infrastructure,

the polo of payeran and and allanical, in the Tjongok, it's already. But, but the speedy-upon-a-li-lis. We're just 120,000 kilometers. America, not-punia.

Europe, probably, only, in French, Spanish. Yeah, right. And that, scalegut is too down. Jank,

Korea and Japan there, but the scale of. What about in Tijuana? And this, you know, you know, and it's like BYD or like BYD in TORHA

also, but product stem-ne-hand-h there. If you're not-a-ad-a-ad-a-ad. Man-ma-ma-a-map. No, ma'am-a-a-a-pac-a-could, but there's not-a-i-a-cure-a-numeration-li-literation. Back-lap, back to step,

numeration and literati. We, we can't do-lis-n-n-lis-buck. I, I, too, I've been-nolice book. Yeah, ma-a. I'm going to say what I'm going to say, what I'm going to say, what I'm going to say, what, not get-tulis, too, although it's not, I'm going to write, I try to use again, I'm try to use again.

You're right, if you're process that process that's a process that's ...ifung crystallization, right? Yeah, right? I can't aseanak, jidat, you know, Nulis. Yeah, you know, it's been long, like, in the world,

you know, but, this I'm going to fendomeneer or khena or kynataan that's notary, shuckers, discopi. So, more many,

the country, in the world, we see, there's the curation between public. how much? how to,

reconsiliation two things about. Yeah, like, the perangman in Ukraine. Masherakat

Ukraine, that's only 20% that's that's people, the people,

the people, the, popularity is the , just just

just that's just the important that's about the opinion public and in Asia also in

the people that's the posture of public as far as can't have been

elitization elitization penitization public not the people not kerakiatan the

penikapan the public yeah It's justinia, A, yeah, posture of the stupon to A, but this is always in B or C, B, or C.

How much? This is something that Rianne just hasakkan, when it'sernernerner, when when I'mutusk, to start out of, I was a person journalist to get from ganket

from there. So, because Rian, And, if you're if you're during in Indonesia I'm sure, I'm the people who are the putusen

or deputuskate the people also, you will be commutu. Because information that is just also keep

permutu. But we can see now, there's also peran, media

that's like be able, like, but, justro I'm trying because I'm because I'm sure

because of the social people need to social media people need to talk about the public butto-terang and correlations how today we're doing the people we're just

just like that the above we're mad because I'm because I'm not there gap there's gap political communication gap

that's that that's what I'm that's the end that's up to make the biggant also, actually it's not-penting,

because media-media that's-pung-jave to be able to lead-radi-radi-a-cate, memontow-kequash-an, this I'm from element journalism Bill Kovach,

that's out-bis-bis-bis-bis-bisar, the mem-tuk-an-sar-sie-cust not-hant-wark-wark-a, but also and Pryan from the other

because of the other because of the way not as well as soy so there's a dissonanancy so, so,

so, I mean making content and make content and sureaking and sureka because I feel this

oh, this is the way to advocate vocation, get to people I want to beware this, because, what, yeah?

No, viral no justice today, Farrant. and if it's not dendonging with good, the big, the bigjacking also,

not can't know. But virality that's, it's important to make justice, while viralitas

is, it's kind with with the bigiaxanaan and the benaran. Yeah,

but if if, viralitis it's with just about the opinion without the unassan facta. And then it's been correlations

with the abhorreliation with the same justice. E, it's not enough, injustice. Yeah. Yeah, right. No virality, no justice. But we have to passpacan,

yeah, I, I, I'm sorry, the thesis underlying that you've beengaked that it's underliction as much more than media mainstream. So, so you can't evenbate

to be able to getteny to sumber, yeah, right, not seconder. And this is important to be realized, by the people of the world

you've got to have to have cutasan, but there also of those sorts of other who can doxel against to make virality.

But maybe not make-wa-facts like you're this is in category non-mainstream. Yeah. Now, this, if I'm inuels to be kept out of who's

who can't carangouation or siapapot who's, who's been personuptupe that is what's been designation-in-as-i-kan, this isarcath, and based on the facta,

but that'serousing massaracted people. Disman, there's been there's a lot of this area of this is not only

consument, but prosaumend. Yeah. Produce and also consumant. So, so, so back as

audience, the men, people who don't also have tangogeant, magna, and has also facta.

Because today we can't see internet is a place that's not even being we can even make us, even can

be able economy and it's being a place we're expressy, can't make sure aspirations

to be the point. And Rian Rian, really, really, today, it's about about because it's about

because I'm not expectation big, that's going to be able to bejointed. Cucup menendarking people just with resources that I have

through content that I hadirken in social media. It's been many people who are in this to gulung

by arous information that shal-it-you-wap-k and I'm even before I'm-production- pernap, ma'amproduction

the news that's even not-be-be-nour because capacity I not as industry media

but creator that's the creator that actually that's that So, something that makes

that'seracututututant that's the part. So, this, it's the tangung-javap that's actually, we're really, we're doing to how much

in social media. Because this, not can't be amputation content, content that, not-baic, that can't, you can,

and, not, make-production, make, discipline in doing verifications. Sometimes, sometimes we can't be sure. But if we want to make make-perbuy

again, we can't get back the best of because, I'm notherutco, content content that day may be sure facta, maybe has more

because, yeah, the reason now is not other than to how much to sayar siar, the best of

how, how, how to amplification? content content creator that's and, and gina, we're just must be sure that's

platform technology this is quite important to distorty the peopleas they're always been narration as a can happen

amplification algorithm of their, it's samaken with democracy. I'm not spaked with that because what they're

doing they're just the matter to the penit for the penit for the commercial more than sensational

more than per polarization and it's making laco to barang yeah and it's not democracy

so amplification algorithm that can't be the same with democracy just true

what has there's justro what is democratization either Now, we have to beaithers platforminging. To beacletes as much

that's bias, too. This is a lot of content creator that maybe there's debunk with things like and also have got to pentingan commercial. Now, if we don't know, we, we have to amplification a number of content creator more.

More than what what's more than what's people are exposed with them the same and they can't make sure, shuskour, mili to this.

Derepahed to do you. Derect, you've done done many things to make sure can sound your but how much to multiplication

people like you people. This, this is A. This is, I've done with them We have we have we have we have district brisic, we're making,

one base of community, a small room that we're called, in type dairate, Dewan Perwakilant District. So, teman-temone that in DPD is, which we, in terms of puttip, Paxa, to make-mendip, to make-production-javap,

agar-production-a-sing, who can't help help usherat and Riannecouldo and Riann also also has been academy content that's like

what's about the yourerunner Osokromino that when you want to be a person people who mimpin bestar

has beenulis like and has orasi like orator so. So, so the

becal this that we ajar how how much about how people who gethurti, how much making how much speaking, and how muchaga

social as a new, the people who are in Jawa, Barat, this we're trying, we're trying, because if not

there's connection, the, that's the narration, it's not really can't And that's What we've got to I mean,

I'm notrasy Persatuan That we have Mousu A We've got Porma B Ayo,

we're doing Sohue Conten content that Mugenton Pyral Tenar It's

can be gulung with the narration that we We're set because we're connected We're We're like

building connectivity that Pat from the Tohh From Hurt Tohh Tohh

Toeee Why is more? We're going to beaing upy. Spirit Jong Jong Jolla, Jambon, Jambon, Jambon, Jambon, Jambon, that's, they're going to be the wrong job, to be the gendalaii narasie, not only pengot trend,

but also leader trend. We're also being a penimpin trend. Sogagnan that, it's from our this ishamasan our 100% of our Gehrase-a-reche-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cac-a-cac-a-a-a-a-cclaims. And, sir, I'm gonna bea-a-a-a-cometa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-i-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-old. Because why? Because of the day

because of the time one day that's the one time in a sub-boh-banks which, which is the end of young young this is more

more. But, but it'suntic by the guru that by quality- Yes, by guru

be stintic as much with numeracy and literati. Because without mentor that better mentor that's right here's right?

can't even de-expressing to something that'sucing. We can't see the example of this. Many of the optimism that's about the international mass, bonus demography, can't beaum betul that narasito that we've got to be able to be able to be able to.

But we also But we've got to be a part, that, like, we're really, as a part of course. Many of times, many times, that's actually,

in the country even, that's because it's because it's about loanjacking demography. Like,

the example, ternata, the, the, the, he's, why demographic change in peristewa

Arab Spring, It's not only the notatatatat, but it's notatting, but it's not quite a lotjacking demography naik, lapanganguroping, young, not-mong-mong-gaping, what-gap-in. Aftering the energy-in-asolourin just to resaleurin to something men-usk.

Now, Rian, takutin, 70% or even the number-nation, this iselurkan to a-sor-a-buy-buy. So, I mean, I'm alir to judol, pornography, only fans. Many times

there's people in the area like to be abey-caicant but optimism Rian is not only

only the amount but about quality, we're the bank that I'm have,

and I'mgap has got jizak that's we're very much as farra-housantara, how much the lur-leur-lehour-kut-it-a-law-hurt-it-a-haw-a-harmes that has done-hawatting-law-a-wore-pac-a-old-old. So, so much, but how much,

genera this not only did biarine, but also, it's like, somechembatan, for, to be able to, maybe, generation that in atas,

and also the society that can be able to be able to. Because, when it's, then, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure,

optimism, we can be able to beaughan between, so, we're about about the way to dole, I think to think, because, without any

there, we can't get to where, and, and, the, that's, the, I'm a bit

optimist, too, the ugawang Sitsiliwangi, Pa. That, so, we're, we,

we're, the art, munks, the Ruckus Muda Mooda Bhaughan

D'ucus D'erah D'erah Kewan'i Kyi can jolashin too at all when it's

Bung Karno There are that the similar about but in after it's

that Nusantara Takal Jaya again will be Munchal Sosok who

It's. reached we're more with what we're going to do with what we've got to. And Rian am I'm sure that the world especially Indonesia's going to take, gilirrana for

Tar, like mimpin' breeken, merdeka, up to 100%, So, yeah, Optimism from Lelhoor just, who ryan peg.

Because if we look data stamp, And then how much guru I'm as soon as far asinous but Rianne's always optimistic that if you're not having funeroying relurran,

to trysari, from keelmuan, kebjaxanaan that's been taken to us, we can be able to bea major and I'maacu. And I'm very spakit

with the waymat Hata that, that's not a good, but it's nothered can't we're backgia, you know, Pat. I'm cupas again.

Keyakiness that, that's the bonus demography this can be sentic with ambisies and imagination,

that's from where, because we're having capacity to make production, the sum, with quality of good,

and product stem which is much than the same amount. That's the keyakiness that's from where? Yeah. First, we can see how,

this, the young, to have, had put a reprimentsy that's quite large, we can,

we can't be able to from any And And I thinkco I think we need to be used to suburb

to find outweights and people are really, really can't be mannepatkan. Now, one of the keyakinan

that Bikin Rian always perccia is we're really back, not only

just to be to look at our but in the what we can what we'lletka count. Kessadarant willia this

can't becal that has been brought by every generation because if if we just we just look at the other

but we'll be back to the backer our we yeah okay we can make make

product that but I think that that's not beermakna as because of the power of course because of the powering today yeah the beragamalam

people, and I'm very much I'm going to lacker product product stem that can be elaboration it soing what what's

what you're just in film blackpenter situation Wakanda that's been the one of the jadeyan we have beenmanfatin to be a we have a TTA

maybe we can't be able to be a bit of product that's not, there's samania, in America so, I'm going to beaubura science

and how we can't we take tradition and budaia that is one that will that can

mendorong Indonesia is take off that, So if we're not evengaly, tradition, it's not as far as much than the monat

Musantara, I always say, the parodaband that that's part of thebadan that's that can embodicapacan capacity to combinacification

the quatation with the quatown innovation. The story is But but innovation important. Two-two-and-you-you-hout-nation

to have been partooking. And it's only can't be able to happen. Terbukan. And ketrebukan

is important. And it has been buddak and if be able to bursa, I'm going to

if we're able to get-tucked to looker grueueue kirk-kut- for some one-to-tit-cuit

because in-campong-sit-to-cote- not there's gurusica that capable, but there's gurusica that's there that's in the sameali. And, he's puttulah

passport English. If there's a cuterbuking in the campong that to recruit people who Somalia with passport English, who's actually

with the physical, I'm more the world. The world we're not sure. But if we're notup

the time, and not can't show the pergoucaan to make combinacicant and innovation is difficult to make sure as part of the world.

It's not gampang in, if I'm in my opinion, but we're still with a cututupan for things like that like that. But this, that's done by

Abasiah for five abat from abat from abate to 18, they're going to I'm the people of

from India from Byzantin from they're even they're even making combinations that's non from

tatan an anga al-Qarishmi that menpukin al-Jabar there's many people people who

can't make the world or around 40,000 kilometers that's didmook and in five abate

from the abate the 18th of abate the 13. They've been a room, the bightal hymah, house of wisdom, that's by theis, Nasrani, Muslim, majority of Muslim, but they're cuterbuckan it's big so long as it.

It's, it, it's, make indah-kindhackan the cacredasan We've got, we've seen, you know, you know,

you're referring to talkaq and peristewa sechara. I want to tell you, what's the important to

do you, to be mhmish Sechara. Uh, Parquetian, the generation mudah, first,

has been much bachasas because sejara, like, ball crystal that, that's,

can't, can't be ramal perjalan generation Because Because of the Because of course

But he's not Because they're also It's like Oh, this, come It's been there's already Yeah Oh, this So, this is

Same like Dull Yeah, like Dulae Era O'Karno also There's Plu-Spanel Then in area

Narian, And, one One-Critical moment-nia If in theory Generation, Nealho and William Straus There's

There perubhance There, there critical moment, pandemic, millennial, there reformation. So, the way of course bad, so it's not can't be samaratakan

and from, and from, we can'tisipation, we can't-antisipation where, we're, we're going to comey-tempo,

and the land that we're lompatin or, or, you know, we're just, we're trying, But but But more

More than more Pantor, Pat mentor that's mentor that's better than we're really have been puttian But if

panutin this Jau He only He has He has been Pajangan But But he can

He can be pedumann He can help We can't Wean Minimal Forgis I

There's One Bucu Rian That's a Borguehant It's beenubbap This ishma. This isha'u'u'u'u'u'n.

This is about the word of my called upon. It's journalism. Deeped with me, and I'm relat with the lines of the words of neraasar sono. So, actually, it's the time-lankhaping, set-pickirate-pikiran,

that's been-bantoo-olde-gour-sha-gour-sha. And, until today, Many, so much more than YouTube channel, but we're gonna'emps, but pick-your-your-n't-n-n-rass-de-kate, near-peer, if maybe, the barasana, yeah.

So, like, decad, that can't really, and, to be able to be able. Segarra-penting, but have a mentor that's more important. Wow, abysa.

This is 8 million of the planet this is the best maybe the same by-bye-bearser ter-biasa be communicates through what-sab or what-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cinted that's-cant-a-kinian

yeah-a-old, yeah, right, nine-t10-jamb-jamb-meggamp megang-hap, communication, one-same-a-lain. That's-cental with kentan, but it's a lot-lal with the last this is phenomena

I think I think I'm nother psychologous as a social social, the way they're in the they're in the to be, they're not too, what,

yeah, what, yeah, to communicate with with the last year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I, say, eight million

communications one-same-a-money-a-a-a-a- but they're not being the people who's 125 million. That's been single to, so long as this 125 million manusia.

But if we can be communication with 125 million, the endowl our name is a story, that's I'm sure, I'm thinking

more than people. Abjaxananan. Now, this is a lot, I've got to come young who, who's

with the and I'm about back the story, and this how it's This, if I'm in order for the phenomena that's true in context of the

social media, that's quite kental with kinkinian, not kental with history or history. If you're looking, the end-decatan-near, really, really, here's a lot more than with the communculean disrupts technology also, I how we have to get up.

how we've got to get back. We've got to find different different. And, set up generation, I think have created treat that

different better, how much yuntick the story to the mind. Rian,

is, because he'suntick like, right run. But, but,

some of the other maybe have the other but Riham kithinan that we're not Kekuranga people who are people

to make merjemak can sejara with very. We can see this day this has been

tumbled paratyr craters that are popular-kuler can bea bachan lewat a subabed

buddaya pop like that film I'm, that's like, that's about it's going to be time, by many people

and that's all right and it's one like in the area we can't see how much creator, creator, culture,

culture, that's also that's too too, but that's also is soal is appreciation,

Pat. We're, we're, we're, we're, I'm, but, but,

dairate, appresiation, ishaghera, not? For how, for how much, the discursus is, the way that the level of the area, national, or even we're international, so.

So, I'm justro, in front justro, I'm going to have to bejointed, And don't know Endorong, Endorong, or buddhares or buddiscursus like this,

really, bernarder dutte dutas, dutusia, dutte bachasca, too many gimmick that's like that, as aola-olah didawarkan

labelization that's like that. So, Rian, just want to say that, that we're job for the job weptuad to

because of the same thing and thenisian with the way that I'm sure people in the area is great and even even when that's really

great but they're under-radar they're justang with mediums and they're making postakana and making book it's even

even, even even, even even, even, even, even, even, there's about what you're about what who's about they've gothut

justro, justroot they're just to give incentive, like, minimal, and parawan, palawan, and, um, perjunking,

mcertain, and them, buddakable, or, about, yeah, the story, yeah,

because we're, we're, we're, people, people who, people who, who, who,

are, I'm notarad, or even I'm notarerrorism. I'm notherit. I'm notherism, how about it's more? Apakal it's more about who's what who's who amelicly?

Oh, Narrick, petania. Ms. Gah, Gare, but I'm nothernalismu. I'm not only Rihanna, right? But not only has to be able to be able to- this one of the same. This is what I'm going togmaty or who you're going to make you? If you're going to make, ma'amilic, ma'am.

Because Rian, Rian, in the condition that I'm trying to tell you at the a while, then, then menin Ibo Rian to school a time, yam, yampeighting there that should be parted by the country. I'm sorry, I'm going to beaer-biasa. But, it's not, uh, upyia to, what, yeah, I'm juster,

I've been there's a couple of people. Like, like I'm doing on down, like I'm doing on here this, three-kali to China every month. There's been

many many but I can't because I'mpue and I'mu emiliki I'm living in lifear and

tumpu-besar in this. This is my ownia. So, about nationalism For you, Pat, Pat. Not too much, because if we're

Cintasic, we're going to be different, Ration, I'm in front of Trian. Rasaang, to, kind of, got but to ballast, yeah, Pat. I'ma, I'maugh, I'm going to make schoolatahir, bantu, a lot of people, to get facilitation that's

that good, to belajure. So, yeah, I'm not sure. So that, Okay, I'm going to challenge you know, I'm going to challenge you know, if you're going to be

sechartre. Yeah, right? Mm. Mm. If they're more dexterous, more pinter, semacin,

more... Sehat, and more... whatever, Yeah. ...andahs... Yeah. But,

important, or to puttingen to puttinketan kithraan. That's namen modal, fullus. Yeah, right? Yeah, ma.

I'm just just to find out. In fact, Indonesia, this, fullest, is, from, from the

money, or fiscal. Pedant Pajak, small, 10% from P. P.D.B.

, or economy. Nogar, the country-negearer, it's 30% to the amount of monetary money, around the country-negear-ma-ma-ma-jou, di-attas-200%. I'm from portrait that first.

We're not-a-foulous, yeah, if we want, we're netact just, but it's also can't boughan inflation. If we're not going to neta-k, if we're happy with what that's-a-a-a-u-a-a-pap. But if we're-all-wee-a-lap,

we need to beaithrowered, and redistribusically, and redistribusically, we're going to be able to be it out of the world, right? Yeah, this is, but I have to be important to love and mayhanging the people

if they're more sechartre. But if there's not enough, they're not going to be able to be suretrakan. How, I'm going to? I'm, I'm more in group or kubu who can't, you know, I'm going to be able to beaumatting who's than what you're making.

Capemilicking, it, can't be caplinging. Yeah, maybe if the world, or sector that's very strategic, don't get sent to. Because, because of integrity,

territorial, the love our country, and our own lives, we're not about, SENTO. But for the Kettingen Keseatraan, you know,

maybe there's some sort of sector that can be able to be able. So, we have to model

move. And we're Maudaum, we can the people the money it's more but

the model it can be able to to get kettasan, keseatraan, casheatman, and this

if I'm thought to be narrasical with bifan, yeah? Not with virality. I'm notherapy.

I'm notherst, but if I'm in front we're going to be a bit of pentingan to makeuring genie coefficient ratio. Sensengarten, consenjana penapaten, and xenapetalism, activity, economic, which, which is,

partumbuant economy in in a better more than more than more than partubuant economy in a quarter of sector or a quarter of or a little this is chengli

for people in the area in part of the baru Tyeongk is there's democratization kind of

activities this is very paradoxal because in the political they're centralistis but

in the economy they're very decentralized and there many democracy in the democracy in centralistic but

the economy centralistic When people, if they're in dairah, if they're going to do you're going to do you guys, has to be a lot of the city. Yeah, right? That's what I'm a manifestation from centralization,

in many democracy. But in Chinaok, you know, you've got to take Kota Kota Ketka Ketka, Lytok, right? Yeah, ma'a. Ketraana, it's redistribusely.

And, Tyeongkuk, also, for over they're quite to make up money from from the money,

from America, from Europe, from Japan, from Korea, from anypunapu. Pumikirang Shobing when that was, I'm not peduli.

What's the people, I'm going to be able to be school. I'm not really, I'm going to be a gajiguru. Yeah, that, he, but, gila,

in 30-town-the-a-allon the end up 10-lapat in Asia-Tengara only 9. It's a maybe, it's course-as-kursus-can

about we can can't-a-n-nation-a-nation-lisement. If I'maluri, I'mal, I'm I'm going to say, I'm going to beaugh who's noticata from who you make. There's a fabric that's by the company

national, 100% but he's going to plang in bank. He can't be rediakkan people, he has to behehkakkan karewant. That's maybe more nationalistic. For me,

yeah, dimbonding scenario two, maybe he can be be mitra, with mitra from the world and mitra luarer the money is to curing model. For the fabric, it can't be able to be redayersed

3,000, 4,000, 5 and Mastry, and three of the same gouticates, and three of the multiplications, the greateran castraining the de-shapparance is just. And it's in sector not too sensitive.

Angupe-lapetan or what, like, to make bottle. Yeah, right? But if, maybe, sector that's strategist,

we have to be ati, and definisicalism. Point is, this I'm this is really critiqued. Narration, we're think, it's too elitist. How, how do youongokin it, so that's

people, you know? And I, I see, to make a publicerable, to make a predabatant so we can give massucan, can, and,

and soing, to be sure to be musk. How, Rian? This is. This is a question It's very much more than you. But it's not.

It's going to be able to do you have to do with us. Justro, several times, it's not in class. Because consumption we're, every day. Because, baguirian, who, that's,

the, because what we're going to be able to, what we're looking, what we're looking. So, so, not asbunding, because we're notarbara because of the way of course.

Charerian is that when you're not what they're going to be able to beaumosy melancho. Melancho, Bhaasian, it's always about the cemasan.

So, kind of the relatable, made it relate to relate with the feeling, with the kind of,

what's just that's much, too, so mucherner. So, so much more than you're like, like, oh, in Makasar,

to be like, chemas while this. There's not, narration that's really can relate, idea that's so that's can't help

their, the public space. In District Bresick, we're always think, even, even level of

the city, to have public space, room public, not only working space, but bekerja, but room for the young young, you know-in creativity their, energy their,

even when they're making money-ttaxed their, bagiang, and then, back from Pingliang, the Gansu, in China a month later. Begit, but,

every day, at 7, after Magri, until 10, Taman, the Pingliang, too, penh,

with, kake-k-k-k-k-k-k, and n-n-n-n-n-n-n-k. Like, like mangookanathele-a-drama-a-lawed. And, in-saint-a-lap-a-lunded, there are pemadam-kebac-rarned, there-lis-all-a-lis, there-lond, they're not-barrang. That's one area. Area-a-a-a-a-kkeke-an-udah ber-dansa.

In area other, there's-enam. In area, area, there are WM-KM-Jualan. This, big, Rian, too. this, this if we're in the area, this is the same thing like we're happy, yeah, because Rihamah, yeah, Rihang, Rihang, Riham. So, Rih, Riham, no, husha, not too huck, not too lebehan. So, one thing that menorong, it, terniae, thereinventy. that's at the waragherian

O'Ankao'Rourga local this is a car Pomerinta to makejoukhan from gadget So, that's amazing That's awesome Wow

You've got to Yonk Four times, ma'am In fact, ma'am In fact, ma'am from Maye to July to last. I wasa I'mhospat

that'shaworthes that's going to continue to be resclairan for us all in Asia Tengar and Asia Tengara is a waylaiah where can't we're not

we're to pojokin with the Umpk we can't to beauntok and to barat and to bearant and to barat

and then And then, I'm stillishton, that's the more than more than we're to Tjongok for the penitain technology. Because because they can

make production zero to one, but they're able to make production the number one to the number one to the number of and deignation and efficiency that's

morebara. Because I've got better than I've got to buy Opoh. Murrah, photos even more than even better. Yeah, right? Now,

but also, you don't look, that, that's the full-us-ness much-as-a-

and Asia-Tengaro to, we have, what, yeah, mendormeism, economy, buddaya,

social, and geopolitic. We, that's full-futucus. Because full-us our full-us our little exceptsingapura that's quite. If we're even

butchews model, we have to have a cuterbucka to meliric to barat. So, we're in between

Tijuana, but Tionk is more to the kentongok, economy also, but more than technology, because it's

because, because it's because, to barat, this, the, duet's money But problem

It's not to come to here. Because, if I'm inruths our capacity our capacity to make up, but, money.

Duit that's coming to to Singapore is because the fact the fact the gaijim's $2.5

$2.5 $1. Yeah, right? Polis, Jaksa and the same compensations the

lawableness, and, integrity, competents, accountability, yeah, right? Now, that's perception, in the clangling of the world,

mengenia, manoeuvres, yeah, this isicapy by Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam,

Thailand, Malaysia, Malaysia, Indonesia. Singapore, is it, can gettankan $140 $140,000,

$140,000, $2. Asia, Tengara, in case, $200 to $230,000. From, that,

Singapore, to get around indonesia can can't get around $30 to $40 million dollars Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines,

Vietnam $10 to $20 million dollars only because perception and substance on the on the

unaggaken of the Singapore the two for the young young important that

Singapore is very capacity to to translation from the the

not the the Bedat, that's not-known, that's not-known, unknown-un-un. If you're known-un-un-known. Risico, it's been decrydiccy, can be-buncust,

can't-div-buncust, can't-din-nilay. Ketit-pastien, not-bis-div-bun-cust, not-bis-din-lay. Yeah, right? I've been, I've been a lot of public-pabric, in anya in Asia, in Singapore I'm going to make upbuck upbric

and then people set up there's there, there's, 65% probability will be every year, while 2, 1,000 1,000, if that's a lot of

your own set your own set, and down to turn 12% that's been it can beook, right, he can't, he can't, this, this is people

need to be it, Two, if that's And the other thanattenham I'm Repatant, return I'm also be putanguoyaped That's risk But there also Investor to the place

He brought money to make upbara, he's the people people that'stemot, yeah, inshawalah, not can't maty the strict. Now, this is very able to abate.

We have to be medit the society as much as as much ascephat possible to how they can translate from the notepastien to be risk.

With the language that's mental with literacy and numeracy. And it's be verification. Bisae can be verification.

So, this is barang. Okay. We have to be able to end upend full-us. We want not not

medatangan technology. We want not to make combinations the power of innovation with the

power of preservation. Tenun in flores have been the presservation. But it can be

Combination with technology, with technology. How much? How much articulation or embudiccation hal like this? So, and the kids of young menangep. Wow.

Nark really, ma'am. Even though, I don't know, the people think of the generation of the other. Maybe he's busy to try work

at the time of work. But, But sometimes, we're really, can't think about if you're in the way, but the perut isy, if you're going to be in-asy if you're

not going to be something structural about the definition nationalism, this structural. Tantpa a general about the pen-definition

of that stuff, yeah, you know, bimbingan to the , the, the, can't be able to be

after, we can't, We're spakot, but we're up, but we're supposed to be it. How's it? How's it? And what's it, and what I'm sure, don't yolong. Yeah, right? Wow.

I'm going to beckonkoken narracy, this. Soapes, that's time from everyone that's about we're just themuliacan to the time

but with realism not with ideology that not there realism we're we're we're

people who people who people who can't can't get to the people to the

people with ambis and imagination with solat hockey to their Ihtiart

doa embassing, and co-hukyan okay now, now, we've got there,

we've got, we've got to cognation our numeracy and literati to end up money, so that's

we're using. But, to end up model, we have to get used about how we don't give-

money- -d-n-n-sion-sion-sion-sion-sion-s. This is nationalist. Wow. Maybe we're more nationalist with perute kosong. Wow. I'm not know.

This is a partan. Narik. And if we're looking, until today, the young, again, I always tend to, we have,

put the energy that is great, but, but sometimes we can't talk, we know, we want to productive,

I'm because because because of the even though so forth with bad. So, we can't do with how it's

to build a embankment to get access to get access to get to the

to the public to the campus as a day this UK. UK.

UK.S. U.S. up to It's Howga Howga Yeah, Riham

Before to be in Right, uh, Kenderan, what yeah, driver and the story,

driver's not so, it's, it's, and he had been he was

and it's campus country, and it dollars-an, the jurusation not kudderan, abutters,

palas-and-juta, pa. Not-jada, Not so, one-a-tang-a-tong-to-pun. Wow. Because of the hard-gat-a-tall-a-could. Yeah, how we're going to beinnovation if, Pa-Has-a-Gyreasing, too, sirsalu-dis-tallu-dis-a-cest-a-cest.

And, yeah, the par-pamang-a-pentingan-in-a-old. Yeah. ...that-cunders-old, you're-old, you're-old, Yeah, Rian, Rian, even about Rihanna'Intyrean, the Indonesian dreams, Mimpy Indonesia, which sejahattra for Garean,

to, memastik, not any other one that's not didingal in today. Because I'm sure our men, our men, we're all right now, we're not gonna becha,

many who've been national, Rai, Emas, RIMPia, science, we, we're, we've got, I'm

but how much how much people by the highate really by-ahed-a-hurti-a-hurti medugue, if you're going to beauntling this, it's just

think of the rank-pendek just, think, maybe about the time he lived for the people, for the generations,

uh, the, uh, the, cuc-c-c-c-c-s. But, there, one-pimimping,

or the people, or the people, to make sure, for the next thingeration not only the partis, not only the penitain, but for the importance of the generation. The last, Ryan, I mean, say, please, go, so,

so, leave-ul-one, wariskan something that, when, when, the, kind of, when,

young, Karian, is, can be career with back, can be good, can be able to be able to be able toartagued because of the other than I'm thinking, nisone, chadanganaal just for ushaping.

Not just to harising. Putang that's more big, or even alam, the water that weirp, to more, buruk, air, that more tecemar. I think I think of all the I think of course.

We're making sure, for you. To beobati, many of the chemassan you, that's a plush. Yeah, right? Yeah. Air cotor,

that has to be bangun, system, that's a system, that's in-capacitas a person superer to makeleckon a manat to university, only with biopalas-a-duty.

That's because of the way of the way of the cost of money belies. Curangely, yeah, the, yeah, curangely, is percoramation with the day of buy, right, pay, and the benefit and pay pay for the benefit and making up, or the payable is making up. Now, I said already have said, that we've been structural,

the room economy our, this is there batheaval. Batas. So, so is a lot, is for the world and in the world, the world, the money is worth

$140 trillion. PDB our $1.5 trillion. So, the money that ischay need diversification this,

this is a hundred-cally lipat PDB our. This is only mutter in there just that. Because we can't because we can't

be able to Or maybe we're not too but too not too much. Or maybe not justas on definition, on nationalism. Or maybe not just as well about peneguagation

or maybe not to gettranslation from ketitapastien to risk. But if I see in the batas logica, this fulusiness

has been gettingatkan so, the day-beli, the money, the money, the amount, the air

can be more It's more more than other than and other than we can't people to school people to korean in Indonesia or in outside. It's

perluous. But if you're in redar to be redarer to be a ratio that only 45% In Singapore, in America, in America, Japan in atas, we're in a lot of 200%. Yeah, we can't be able.

We're cutterbatasance and this we need to becuredasance, and what, what, yeah, has to beaum about getterbatasance and the lebeian that there in the world. But before

ourus'emansi, we're just clear about definition about nationalism. We're also bullet. To make up

anything that's we're not. We're also must increase can transferation from the not certain

to be risky. Tantpa' it's all. Sulid. And I say, and I'm saying to make

the stububborn economy from the 5% to 8% that, it is very can't be done if there political will.

3% canaikin, it's only $45 million. 3% from $1.5 trillion. $45 million. If we can't PMA or penanaman model asing from $30 or $40 million a year

to $75 or $85%% or $85 million, that's even more is in the sameapuas. Salsay. Pertumbuant economy, 8% are, but the money not can not move.

If you're in un-gaken-ukum before, translation from the catathinga to risk, there's, and we need,

nationalism is like how much? Apaka this is about who's who who's who who can't be people?

If I, see, if, if, if, if, the same, the,

the, the way, the way, the that's that's definition nationalism that I can have been

responsible we're talking about two hours there, Rian there's there can't this kind of

this I'm not I'm not got got can intisarri and wisdom from

from this day this and Rian just want about that embaln Indonesia

is not enough with one generation. Even chandy even in Eranusantara upon in Lantara Poon, it's built with lintas

generation. We need to Estabat generation so, to the generation of this day this is, but

we can't we're just because why I'm saying yeah because if the peoplepinsia

has not beenjaga the generation muddhya, yeah, we're justahil. We're just a lot of or, like, Mimipitan Malacca, 100% merdeka.

That's just, sir, I'm from Rian, and I'm always in-hidup can buddaya baca, discussion, did it,

because, only with itulah, we can't just with d'raget just with belgare just with even with being mimpic

so even we're still we're at theterbatasked even if we're having a mowan yeah we can't

be able to we're from from the our country we're we can't so always with it

because only just with just by just by of it's about it's maybe maybe can't even can't even

turn to be able to get through I'm one thing this one thing if I'm in think I'm

think there's and there is a person who is a man man

yeah yeah, yeah, right yeah, right yeah, yeah, and I can, and I'm

seeing Deng Shopping with Likwanyu they're really, they're actually really Mucing the light,

while they're nanked ticus, I'm not pedulie. That's the only, that's the only, Nanktikus. Yeah, right? And they're both to be able to

democratization talent. Bullet, consistent. If you're recruit talenta that's based on meritocracy. Not berdasarital

or patronization. And ibarat kata if you if you're like if you're not backal, you're not backal to be commissaries BUMN, you not backal to be a party CCP. Yeah, or PAP. But if IQ you're 120, 30 or 40, and moreasay

and beaigrant, but for indecritus, can't accountability. Competent and set. That's, it's right.

If, sir, sir. If, sir. In my life, in the room, in the country, the place, ibadah, institution social.

That's what is to buddialan. without can't can't about the time about that's about yeah,

there's beck with TikTok just like we're to be in front yeah, thank you, Loh, Rian. Yeah,

yeah, thank you. Teman, that's Rian Fardy, content creator that's great really, thank you.