Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Sandiaga Uno: Tanah Gemah Ripah, Ramah, Bernilai Tambah

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We invested in MotoGp probably with the other than maybe 2.2 trillion dollars, and and, like I talked in the endgame the last, I'm more looking at actually that the trajectory for us to winning an Oscar or international award is to make the more the next. This year is a big, big year for the year for,
Starting point is 00:00:30 for us. As you know, world spot life is in Indonesia. This is the machine we're making, that's the most of the transformation in the Permanentucketka' Productivity. Hello, the time, today we're getting Bapa Sandiaga Uno,
Starting point is 00:00:53 as a member, from the government, and badan, pariwisata, and economy creative. Bro, Sandi, thank you very. I'm going to thank you. This is the other.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Thank you very much. And, and it's just like we're lugue just. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not so much formal. But this is,
Starting point is 00:01:20 but this is we're making in the Mentiaryan Parwisit and Economy Creative is a culture that very well
Starting point is 00:01:31 decatakan informal, because the sector's also informal. And because of the creative economy, we're still like startup, so the make of the way of it. So, the way of it, this is the most
Starting point is 00:01:44 for the ministerian our. Very, um, maybe casual, but there's sentuhan buddha, sentuhan product,
Starting point is 00:01:54 product, economic, creative. What is, as long as you to the that's part of the that's the part of the
Starting point is 00:02:05 thing that's very game changing. At the time, the time, it's the time that's the most bad for the sector parwisata,
Starting point is 00:02:22 where the level of the visitawan is to turn 75% and then the very next year down 80% so, so that's got to the impottinger.
Starting point is 00:02:37 So, priority at all that we're, how to help the entire land of Indonesia incorporated this to get over
Starting point is 00:02:48 COVID. Not, it's not, I've got, to do. Sautifixircuit, certifications for protocol of the health integration,
Starting point is 00:02:59 peduling, need-in-sum- to, even to get-bant the help the back-and-and-a-ventilator. So, yeah, when, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:14 really, really, like, in the situation, so, sector, we could, and, you could help the panananan
Starting point is 00:03:21 pandemic. Now, And then, we're just we're going to look what we're possible we're doing to recoverie.
Starting point is 00:03:29 So, we're blessed to have a visitor who turned out of resilient, quite
Starting point is 00:03:39 strong, that's so, so usatansansara that carry much of the
Starting point is 00:03:45 heavy lifting. So, the, that's in the hotel, while in the kind of the turhunian that is, it's about the USATOANNusantara who's being issued.
Starting point is 00:03:59 They, even though, even, the, the the at the
Starting point is 00:04:08 total for usatown mancan-negara, at can't can get and be And,
Starting point is 00:04:17 and the Ussarantra this is the U-Santhra this, can't even with with the because the it's very and that
Starting point is 00:04:29 and that the charat-charat can be must be CR. Now, they've still
Starting point is 00:04:38 to over the target. So, for the year target we're 550-juta Weasatahua Newzantara per September of this, it's over.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So, so weisatawan Nusantara this is who's a major-salmat. Now, before February, March, this we're doing reactivation and lintas the Comentrier and the Permanentryan Lembaga, we'll start the border our, and the per-rebangan first to Bali, from Manchanegara, from March.
Starting point is 00:05:17 But per day this, we've got to be able to make sure that recovery that's significant. So, the Visatown Mancahagara also got. And from the Visatan Marcia Nogar that we're not we're perkirakan, that's... From what, from the way, from back again China, back again, from Japan, from Korea, from top 10. It's the top of Australia.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Australia, during, number 5. Now, top 5, there's India. There, India, not-adda, no. Even, no, no, penerbangen, long. So, I'm going to look, this, guys, many lesson learned, many also,
Starting point is 00:06:05 maybe if we're going to that transformations that's full with serendipity, we know, we know what, we're not, wow, we're not we've got basis alam,
Starting point is 00:06:17 ushata ber basis buddha, nature and culture, quality tourism, sustainability, focus. And this is the, rewrite pariwisa
Starting point is 00:06:30 Indonesia to the What do you think you that you've been in context the way that's for the international? Trenata, the pandemic winners, and this also random walk, and
Starting point is 00:06:47 it's, you know, it's, you know, get to, in the one the three, it's, desa-wisata. So, So, so that's about 85,000 desa in about 5,500 who has data-tarick-wisata and have products product economic creative that menunge. Now, we're mapping,
Starting point is 00:07:07 and now there's 4,000 that's identifications, we're making to big data, we're work with technology providers, we look at the pergareters, from heat map and like, in the time of the end of pandemic, they justroo, they're just to know 30%.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Wow. Destination line newsruck, that desa-witsa-witsa-wisata that's up 30% and, and, and, one,
Starting point is 00:07:35 the open-upan-lapang-upan-the-lapagraphing, and, and, again, and, and, actually, we'll take-eachan, to make appreciations anagrahares
Starting point is 00:07:50 to the best of the best of the best of from 5,500 total that 4,000 that's already we need 3,500 again has to make data now this we'll pick up every year 50, 50 and gettemu, the world class,
Starting point is 00:08:11 world class, after it's, airstroon, bertigrant, like in Sulawesi Tengara, we've got a desa the city of the world, desa penelipurant in Bali. There are desa that men who's in the way of the way of thean-wit-o, desa-langaran in the Gunung Kidol. There are wistakia.
Starting point is 00:08:32 In-mana, in Gunung Kidul. So, so... So, they're this, what do you know, is a gun-wale-in-purpan. So, if for the people for the people, they're like, to be a little bit more
Starting point is 00:08:50 and then it's a lot of years that jawa, that's endang in the area gung kidul, and, actually,
Starting point is 00:09:04 the formation batunus like this. And we have carifan local that, opang. So amazing. Because of Bali, can, and d'allan we're not even
Starting point is 00:09:17 to manjacking with the Kekwatraqqaqaqaqaqa you're not only big fan of Bali but you're an investor too. We're an investor too. We're inisksaqa
Starting point is 00:09:33 national, all of course that's focused on the Bali. That is the Now, President, to dis-barae-to-l-lis-bara, we'd say, super-priority to propang Bali,
Starting point is 00:09:47 that's Danautoba, Borobudur, Mandalika, Labuan-Bajou, and Likupang, four y'-op-uped in Pinasatatatara. But, okay, before five, this, you'll look,
Starting point is 00:10:01 how you can't how you can mucu perkemankan in the in the $85, because this is great if you've got to look at $7,500. Right, right. We're the most of the most, the most of the data.
Starting point is 00:10:17 So, maybe the most the most to meet you is, it's, with, the amputahiran data from where they are, how it's how it's
Starting point is 00:10:31 how to get to promotion, we're in the showcashy we're doing the time digital, showkising product products product economic creative because we're not
Starting point is 00:10:44 just to look, I'm not just rohally, romoyan who only look at, but how they're making jade and buy product product local
Starting point is 00:10:56 so. So, so that local economy is ganked, UMKM is also made up can't manfa' feeling I feel like in 2004
Starting point is 00:11:08 I'm very much if it's 5,500 this already terdata and then maybe not just mulek mulek 500 a just that
Starting point is 00:11:21 who's just able to local champion this every single 17 SDGs you hit the sustainable
Starting point is 00:11:32 development goals, empowering poverty, gender equality, the problem of the health and problem, that's all because ecosystem is there. And you have the local champion, you have the empowerment. You look at local government, how response? This can you can't boil each other up, right, so, so that's the smanget. And, and, rather, they're all,
Starting point is 00:11:58 and that they're saying, The area, like that. And they're not-mahal-mahal, you know, not-lux-lun-lun-a-lund. Intervency is collaboration, lintas-pemir-Permintas, ajaracacic-gues-a-cass-platia, cash-platia, penampingingan, access-permodalan. And, tibba-bibba-l-national,
Starting point is 00:12:25 that's-old, be-unded to-un-sin. Coole-cule of the country, Cofa-Darwisans, the head of the U.S.S.A.R.S.A.R.A. Borgas. Borg. Borg. KATHLEENI-QA-Dur-Wuhrase. Wadu. Oh, doodoo. Wadu, they've got-gias. Self-y.
Starting point is 00:12:41 With you. SELFY. Posting. Oh, we've got amplification. And, and, because, because, you know, we, as you know,
Starting point is 00:12:52 we, can, we've got, refocus, right. So, yeah, yeah, we've got prioritized to give-of-the-bijerkasks that we can deliver to make an aspect inclusivity. And, it's a half-torn this World Economic Forum
Starting point is 00:13:11 made appreciates, and we jumped 12 ranks from the position before now we're overhauled Vietnam, Malaysia, and for the very first time, Thailand. So. So, so.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Trenuanting policies and inclusivitazes from policies is, the value our our own. And,
Starting point is 00:13:34 and, I'm the kind of indianation because destinations desinations visit our our
Starting point is 00:13:41 is so beautiful. This, this, if, for the people, I've got got
Starting point is 00:13:48 got to get really, but this, So this can doitia is to if it's notherasional can be able to
Starting point is 00:13:54 from, apakly that, $7,500,000, $85,000. But this, maybe be correlations with how to narrasiccans. This is many,
Starting point is 00:14:06 though, with people local, and how they can't be narrasically in the language international. What that is it can do?
Starting point is 00:14:16 So, from the area. Now, this I I'm from endgame, bro. Right. And game, this is your search to find a good narrator about the
Starting point is 00:14:28 good narrator. Now, I'm get to meet with local local leaders here. Yeah. I'm just trying. Because in-balik set-up destination that, there story-nomics.
Starting point is 00:14:39 So, so there's the story-trick-in-ne. So, there's a wisata, like in NTT, in Mangaray, in the Kampung, Wairebo. Yeah. That's just to becap, oh, this is epic, bro. You hiking, five kilo, najerk.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Sampheed to get to get, there's a little. Now, but there's a story, you know, that this is a place, by Llewur, be made, the place great, for them for contemplation, be tafacur,
Starting point is 00:15:17 ber-discucusi, mouchawarhamu-fakat, and, and, again, local, local, champion. Now, it's been, the Uisatown Manceng,
Starting point is 00:15:29 not there, that's, we're coming. We're not going to, the whole-hunt-juta that's done, infrastructureing is already, promosiness,
Starting point is 00:15:38 it's just out of lawn jaguan in kawasan. We'll get, we'll just have focus on the quantity do you. Focused in quality
Starting point is 00:15:47 just. How much quality? Two, just. Length of stay and quality spending. How do we get them to spend more than
Starting point is 00:15:57 $1,100 which usually $100 per visit which usually usat-ta-oan-nagra spend? How much how can spend
Starting point is 00:16:07 $2, $2xed-dolat. That's the impact that's super, super critical to be the local economy. Length of stay. Indonesia is due to three days, people come on June, and back on a week, how they stay a week, de.
Starting point is 00:16:30 If you're a good thing, Thailand, how to get two days? Thailand, d'A. In fact, five days. Wow. Because they have some of destinations. If we can come back to Bali, weekend red,
Starting point is 00:16:40 we're going to. Right. Now, how they're making reprimanding, what other than there's remote working, there's digital nomads. This, we can't
Starting point is 00:16:51 teller, oh, selan you can be Bali, you can't go bado, there, diving the carin,
Starting point is 00:16:58 there, there also also, there, there, also, there, there's... Buruntun to,
Starting point is 00:17:02 Bali, Lombok, Sumbah, Summa. Yeah, that's one one tarigan, that. That's just like, if you're majestic.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Gila. Travel pattern we've got to, we've done focused that travel pattern. This if you want four days, this you're what you must see look. If you must include Bali, this combination. Maybe to Boro Boudur, maybe to Labuan Bajou. If you're five days, you can extend.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Bissue BRO, you can get sensation the bigot. concept 3S the bigotaned by the Visatown Manca Negara is Sun, Sea and Sand Now we'll add to the new
Starting point is 00:17:43 3S serenity spirituality and sustainability Soapability So we're Begrang And we're going to begrang And we're saying
Starting point is 00:17:54 Toes the PPPB PPP this Pertenant town this one of this, we may not be able to catch your number, but we're going to improve with the quality and sustainability part. Where I'm going to designations, desinations, will all transforming into electric vehicle Bali by 2030, and Autobah by 2035, how we'll remove all single-use plastics from our critical supply chain, how
Starting point is 00:18:32 how we're going to reduce food loss and food waste in destinations, we're the first ministry that commits to the Glasgow Charter. So, in ASEAN, we're the ASEAN I'm first, we're the Kmetryan first who's net zero strategies.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And it's, we've got... So it's the 2035. Now, now we're going to be 8%. Net 0, 2005, that's the he had to be. No, 2003, we will cut our carbon emission by 50%. Okay, so in 2008, to 4. Okay. But we'll do even better by 2045, completely net zero.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Okay. Great. So, great. So, yeah, we aim high. We've done to be able to be able to be able to be. Amen. Okay, if you if you look, if you look,
Starting point is 00:19:32 if you look, this is the same or on the other pre-COVID, the local, you asked. I just checked the number. Because you've got to I'm stressed.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Okay, I'm just stressed. No, God. You, a person, because macet. Because of stress because of it. Plot, so I'm worried, went to me. So, I checked.
Starting point is 00:19:54 If you know what's about 5% percent, fair, fair. And but if we're, this can we talk about impact to the economy, so it's about, but if weasatawan Nusantara is almost back at the pre-COVID number. But, Chief, Chief, because pre-COVID number, we've gotagliant parliusat that's not too well-quality. Now, now with troboasan, with big data,
Starting point is 00:20:40 with local economic, creative products that we can't dampaknesses to make, the impact-necognomists and local communities, that's a number guy. Because you're a number guy. What makes you think so? We're going to.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So, we're going to, our bussathek our way dampen to GDP, why not up to up, but, but, we're also we're also
Starting point is 00:21:11 we're out this number, we're not too dampak like Thailand or Philippines. But we're now building. now building with quality tourism we're now back at contributing parwisata to around four and a half percent of GDP.
Starting point is 00:21:28 But the creative economy side, we're number three in the world now in terms of contributions to GDP. First is America with Hollywood. Second is Korea, K-pop, Draco. We've got seven and a half percent of creative economy sectors contributing to GDP. So the two sectors combined, 40 million Indonesians around 12% of GDP. but my aim, if we're really,
Starting point is 00:21:57 if we focus and move into this transformations of the new era of tourism, which is focus on quality and sustainability, we will hit 15% of GDP by between 2025 to 2030. And be it to get to thinkatting again by 2045 when we are hopeful, fully top five in the world. Amen.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Amen. That's 20% contributions of 2 GDP. From wisata and creative. And creative. If you're, okay, you're passionate about about WMKM or micro-MKM. If you look from data, the per-MKMKM,
Starting point is 00:22:40 now, that's, because of the wisata, has been to pre-COVID or pra-COVID? No. So this, because you're a trade guy, you're a you're a lot of investment trade. No, no, I'm going to say. But I'm a good, guru,
Starting point is 00:23:00 you're a content creator, you're a local hero. This show, many of the people, Jif. Amen, I'm going to be a lot. I'm saying, when I was, when I was, when I came, I looked, this good, because, can, we know, We have not yet yet has been There's a lot of
Starting point is 00:23:19 There's a lot more See howl-you-soor? No, but I look at it, but it's been It's a lot Yeah, yeah, and I'm great-d-and I like when you
Starting point is 00:23:32 with you with M. M. And, and Baratnaw also I like I'm that from from the
Starting point is 00:23:40 Pemorten. But I'm also salute when you're going to with the people, of the people of the people of the people of the Usa Usa Haasah. That's, that's
Starting point is 00:23:50 muddhavening. Anyway, let's go back. UMKM, the number is staggering. Because in economy creative, this is 99% UMKM also. And if we're bedah that,
Starting point is 00:24:05 that he is that is a very dampak and recovery this uneven. So, So the recovery is completely k-curve. Yeah, like this. For the only-recovered, doing very well,
Starting point is 00:24:23 it's the single determinants is whether they are able to digitize or not. Yep. So, he can digitalizations, he'll just recoverying, uh, but when it's been, uh, but when it's been a pandemic, then, then caught in a situation,
Starting point is 00:24:42 he can't digitalization, he justro, stay in the place, even more than much that's up. So, so much so.
Starting point is 00:24:53 So, the job of publicization from the 64 million or so UMKM. Now, the task my boss,
Starting point is 00:25:04 Mr. Jokoeui is you go digitize, 30 million, and a half, or more,
Starting point is 00:25:11 from UMKM. So we've done 20 million already. but the likes of the Tokopoevokovac, and other than other than the other things. Now, the 20 million is done. We have about 18-bulan again
Starting point is 00:25:27 to digitize the hardest or the next 10 million is the hardest. Because the 20 is relatively much on board in digital economy. But the 10 is the extra effort. Krak-ne of UMKM. Istick. If you can't even if you're in the skinning,
Starting point is 00:25:47 maybe 5% more than than the crack of the commiskinan from 5% to 3% that's hard. Now, this is that we're trying with with a plaitian, penampingan, we're just going to desinations, so I'm, this practically, yeah, senen slasah in Jakarta,
Starting point is 00:26:10 Rabu, to Mingue, yeah, in the area. in the area. You're active really up to the end. Okay, now we're going to roll the 5. Titic Bali Baru this.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Balibu. Kelas. Danotoba. Danotoba, this special because he's same, nature and culture. And unique,
Starting point is 00:26:31 because this there's story also. Rastus-a-touan-tallon there's a of the gung raksasa, and made uphirted and one
Starting point is 00:26:42 the landau that's I'm going to know about it 75,000 that's this life changing life changing and
Starting point is 00:26:51 and at that that I don't know what what that's but what that's it's kind indah
Starting point is 00:26:57 and and to be one designation that super epic in my opinion so
Starting point is 00:27:04 So we'll keep the usual suspect that's, that's quite is infrastructure. Yeah. The part of the st. So, baguagued, the P.U.P.R. team, Kementhub, I'm going to beaub
Starting point is 00:27:20 in the board's, needin interconnectivity from road systems. I'm in the SDP I, I, I'm doing a plightion to people people of the people people around people who are in Jakarta
Starting point is 00:27:39 not can't be it. He said, because other cultures in there, not welcoming, but when I, three-bunum-partama, came to bolang-balik, by the way, I broke every minister's records in visiting Dano-tobah, one year, nine days I'd that I'd come. That's, you've got to look at it.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You've got to be a-en-nank, that? Sempot, bernan, that. And I love open water swimming. So I'm... I've been to do, that, too, do you know, I've been trying. Sempet, because the problem caramba jarring gropung, it's not disarrant to be able to winang
Starting point is 00:28:18 because there's been a bit. But now, now. So, I'm back back to the end up. Sdeme's, making the best thing that's the best right now. Tava, and we've got to be done to be able to be able to be able to be able to be tautombe. Borobudur. Borgh,
Starting point is 00:28:43 Bhaan, I want to share. So, the tessis my about 75,000 years long ago because the
Starting point is 00:28:54 that was that make murek more more than two million material that that's
Starting point is 00:29:02 it. It's it's, it's, so it's, So there's what's about 1, some of 1, there who's what about 1,000, there who's what I'm about 1,000-1-000.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And that population of the world to 3,000 to 10,000. And this I can say, the peran Indonesia, to re-ribute humanity one-one that's one that's in the history of mankind. Because 5,000 years
Starting point is 00:29:34 that, 70, that's that's the last, there's already revolution of cognitive. Tiber, the otak manusia and it's much more.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And that I'm correlations with the situation, that's it, that's the people who survive, 3,000 people,
Starting point is 00:29:57 from 10,000 people, from, maybe, juta-an, that, that, it's, he's,
Starting point is 00:30:03 be smarter. Be able and be So it's a adaptatat because they're Gumpet in goa, umpett in anywhere. Pursing... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:13 This is the rebutting of humanity. It's... ...bara, Tambora, Krakata, that's kind of 1815, Krakato, 1882. That's also making the galapal of the universe. It's a cataclysmic,
Starting point is 00:30:27 like toba. Toba. Toba, this historically, the most by orders of magnitude. Intenatine. It's... Now, this, if this is...
Starting point is 00:30:37 ...nowing this is that... Yeah, this is... ...and I'm gonna'aner... ...and...weean... ...theatrophalogy, anthropology, ...and, tuntunun intellectual, and, ...and, this ishatt. I'm not...
Starting point is 00:30:54 ...narrasi that's long as long as we're ...that we're... ...letusance... ...letusan... ...the ...letusan three-one, ...letusan, ...the last one, The last year's about 75,000 years. But the impact not... Dachshad. We're not ever
Starting point is 00:31:09 ...massooking it to in the narrative. That's that's that's... So, if not there's if there's this, if not there's a... ...ot our... ...manying we're still...
Starting point is 00:31:21 ...mast we're not bicketal. And we're not bi-pedal. Now, we're bi-taddle, so it's two-kaki just. And it's... ...and it's... ...mungbohmah... Polarize, evolution,
Starting point is 00:31:35 that's great-me-manor-a-volus. And that's men-chong revolution pertanian, can, 12,000 years ago? So, we can branding this is Indonesian contributions to mankind. We played us. Big role in starting over. I always learn something when I meet you,
Starting point is 00:31:55 go. Okay, okay. So, I'm going to get-muel, I'm going to belajure something. No, I, I'll baca, I've got to bea, journal, and book about this, book that's written by Ali Physica,
Starting point is 00:32:06 Ali Anthropology, and even, Jared Diamond, Yuval, Michiukaku, all about the casegian this. And, there's,
Starting point is 00:32:17 who's been explored that, that's the person is very perpurn to rebut to humanusiaan. Because, without cognition,
Starting point is 00:32:26 humanusian, dead. With what we can't 75,000 years ago. Yeah. We're one-one, yeah, but we're 99%
Starting point is 00:32:35 same with chimpanzee. But we can be imaginesy. He can't be imagination. Now, this is because of cognizis we can. We can have creativity because our cognitive
Starting point is 00:32:49 capability. Because of theobah. I'm big hypotesa to that. Amazing, yeah. Yeah. But let me do my research, and I'll come back to you.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Oh, do I'm very much. Boro Bore Bore Burtur. That's our contribution to mankind, Boro Boudur. And, and, I'm just learned, I'm going to be a Bhaer this, relief, this, this, it'sin what, and, and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:33:18 sogain. So, that, Boro Boudur, we've been, we've been We're notic-and-and-iturcation, we're the right. So, the president, don't get-tabrackan the aspect parwisata, aspect economy, with conservation. Conservasiness
Starting point is 00:33:39 the other, we'll be included. And this is working. Abis it, Mandalika. Mandalika, this is actually beautiful, you know the place, but it's really beautiful, you know the place, but it's Antic-a-a-a-a-a-puner. So, we've got to create recovery by inviting MotoGP. At least we invest in the MotoGP circuit, and now it's already to look at, and the Dampact
Starting point is 00:34:11 we invested in MotoGP that probably, with circuit and like, and so in all in all, $2.7 trillion. But the impact but the last $5.8 trillion from
Starting point is 00:34:32 economic impact and direct impact to the local economies $4.3 trillion. So it seems to be heading in the right directions. Labuan Bajo, Tamaan National Commodos, four-rebut-one. Again, same like Borobudur,
Starting point is 00:34:51 we have to build single narratives, meshingas, that conservation aspect sustainability is going to be first and foremost of our priority, and the other, and, and, and, and, and, and, and this, we have to say, So that'seracan can't
Starting point is 00:35:16 we're clarifications, we're we're justiccans, we're engage and we're just can't get buy-in from them. Now, the baller sulet, four, it's all on the right track. Bola that's sullid, this
Starting point is 00:35:32 Likupam, bro. This is in Minasasawutara. I just heard to gettenan, boss, I'm, I'm taking tumbling service. There's a thing that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like
Starting point is 00:35:43 NTT yeah. Wow. This is level C level, Nannu, it's not done my job enough. So, so, other from promotion,
Starting point is 00:35:55 we're like to know. But, but we're but we're not too, but it's not too but it's
Starting point is 00:36:04 the cause of legupang is there is in garis Wallace. And garis Wallace, as you know, the most unique from the same from flora, from the way, fauna,
Starting point is 00:36:15 terrain, topography, and like that's the way. So, that's what we're going to drawong in concept ecotourism and visata, the water. Because diving is completely out of this world, amazing. You, why not, make quiz just, in all Indonesia, for, who,
Starting point is 00:36:33 the, the, the, the of the language Indonesia and the other This isa-isks-asks this. This islequisting-masukes from the five objects-wisata-in. This is a scale, we've got test, and it's the result
Starting point is 00:36:46 we're looking the right timing. Because we have limited bandwidth, to be honest. So I do the parieto rule. Let's focus on what we can do within this short, 18-month period of time.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Now, for the the other than the other in the other like that's effective. It will be our priority for legal parties. Hadiaean, if you're men,
Starting point is 00:37:18 if you can't self-y-mall-you- Yeah? That's not that people who, young who know-nug-noling magasical, whatever,
Starting point is 00:37:27 sure to, to, know, that's a good idea. Abis it, you, 500, then 75,000 object Visata.
Starting point is 00:37:38 So, if it's... If you're 8,000, there Wikipedia's. Gila. That's database that we're talking about. Yeah. Now, I want to ask. Weak-neatting Wisatawan
Starting point is 00:37:52 international, 15-juta-an, yeah. 2019, bro, 17. 16.9 million. I, I, too, there's no reason to we can't get to get to get to
Starting point is 00:38:01 get to get $150,000. Yeah, yeah. Because with a lot of the 8,000 object ofisata, when do you see that happening, 150 jutsuania, I would say, if we can redistribute, because this is, 16.9 jute. There was an over-tourism in Bali Salatan. You know.
Starting point is 00:38:31 We have not done enough of a good job to distribute destitination this so that the the power tampung from carrying capacity of each
Starting point is 00:38:43 destination this destination this is still to give a lot which is a mannang-likean, and other than the other than
Starting point is 00:38:54 soaguen't. So I would say it will take between 10 to 15 years. The first is three concept accessibility. You need for this
Starting point is 00:39:08 thousands of destinations this this is inter-connectivity not only that the
Starting point is 00:39:20 but we have we have we have to lookitivity in terms of digital connectivity SDM's the same and the other than and things it will take maybe 10 to 15 years but with the technology internet of things this is it's very much and it's and it's been percepat
Starting point is 00:39:39 the amenities we need to build accommodation it took Nusa 2 25 to 30 years to get there So this is kind of And the last, attraction. Now, we're not-cala because
Starting point is 00:39:58 tarit-tari-tarian, the place selfie, then, music, film, aded-isti-adets, the place, where we have such an abundance of supplies. So,
Starting point is 00:40:13 the key that is infrastructure. And, back back to podcast our time to the other than the other. Dooku, bro. Dooku. So, if we can doleckon, maselago that
Starting point is 00:40:27 invite private sectors, bring investors, to build accessibility that will be very view. You're looking at the kindlady
Starting point is 00:40:40 to be intracognactivity, not inter-connectivity. In my opinion, we have too many international airports in my opinion. We need to have, I guess, intracognactivity within, say I'm going to comeeran,
Starting point is 00:40:59 like Jambi, I'm going to Acheh. I go to Jakarta first, bro. I go to Jakarta. So, hub and spoke, it's not going to run, then. And then, So, yeah, in-a-a-a-tutra-it-a-tru-it-to-you-law-all-it-it-so.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And we need to build connectivity with a carat. In Jawa, al-lil-lil, I can't know. Naipal, I can't go. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:40 This we've got to be, economy creative. I'm, this, I'm kind of, too, in economy creative, in the perfilman, right? What,
Starting point is 00:41:51 you know, how about about about about? I'm going to be optimistic. Super optimist.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And, like, I, I'm talking in end game the last is, I'm making that actually
Starting point is 00:42:04 the trajectory for us to wining an Oscar or international award to make the cut. Okay. And creativity, we're really, chief. Gila.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah. I'm really. And with the streaming services this, med democratization all sector, especially the sector film and content. you suddenly giving opportunities
Starting point is 00:42:36 for content creators to make up to the other people who had before never had to be thought and film this has to puttue to give you guys more incentives. incentives.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So, the Netflix, I was sitting here. I've been three years last year this, hope to your platform, but every night
Starting point is 00:43:08 I look top 10 stream that's the insinician movie. Let's say non-Indon Indonesian content, that.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Maybe there's one, sometimes two. Yeah, yeah, photocopier. Photocopier. Yeah. Which I watched twice.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Great. And I, I think content content we're more than the country's the way of the country so. So, because of the second two weeks last, I let's talk about
Starting point is 00:43:34 statement, if we collectively curangin'n'nondon dracor's one, more drabath, drama Batak, or Drasun, drama Sunda, or drabal, drama Bali,
Starting point is 00:43:46 this... Dragor. Dram Gaurontalo. Drama Gorontalo or drama... Manado, that, Neracha
Starting point is 00:43:57 that will improve great. K-K-K-K-K-K-K-Pen. And if they're K-Pak-Pi-Pop, Ganti to Dikov, D. This, this, I can,
Starting point is 00:44:08 RACA-Go-Gua, will be a lot more improved. But, with this only I'm very sure. Yeah, yeah. So, I'm not sure. I'm really, and if we're not,
Starting point is 00:44:18 and if you're in the world chief. Ah, this film we're really, really terujied in Malaysia, the kakaan Desa Penhry, penitistan two, communion, Yvana, and other than that, sogain. So, I mean, I think the possibility of
Starting point is 00:44:39 I, I'm going to win international award from you, it's mixed feeling, but, actually, I kept on telling the guys, you see a big wave try to fight it but serve on it how much. I know I know, I'm not able to watch I'm, I'm afraid, I'm, I'm dead-deked-terus
Starting point is 00:44:59 but my name's the honor so we're not gonna be two one, one, one, it's-tisksa, but yeah, but then, yeah, that's the other, the other thing that's... I'm... I'm a gombo, with horror.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Jomoi? No, FOMO. Not fomboe. Yeah, not too. I can look without it, but what can do it. But what I'm going to take to the front. I'm going to look at the low-hanging fruits there in sectors that you opened,
Starting point is 00:45:34 y'itit, which wisata or pariwisata and economy creative. You'll look, not there's bributti-bukti-bukti that's tangible for we can really, to really, really can't even better-to-mingact-productivity. Because we're not a lot of the other than the country and the same productivity. And, at least, if we're going to be around inflation, perang with resuscity, perang with resuscity,
Starting point is 00:46:01 pern't with whatever, more we're productive, as much we can protect our own own. You look, you've been meddick micro-U-M-KM, you've been bidic economic creative, anyone in the wiseraping, you know, look at them, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:20 to make up to make productivity so you look at, they've already productivity, it's been making, two, three, four, or five-cliffe by the orders of magnitude.
Starting point is 00:46:33 There, there's, there, some, but, but it's anecdotal, still, Not so systemic.
Starting point is 00:46:45 So, so the key of the government, must be institutionalized the end up. And I'm not quite, I'm saying. We're not quite, this is,
Starting point is 00:47:01 one, definitely, from the when you give them education, the, let's know, and it's tremendous impact.
Starting point is 00:47:14 they're a lot of the technology. that's a huge role. When you expose them to technology, and, and, we're not, we can't get up endang, they're,
Starting point is 00:47:31 they're, transformation digital's also phenomenal, from it, take telephone, get-tune, But I'm just because of Android, and then you're still doing with TikTok.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I mean, it's amazing. So, how much the challenge is to convert that t'nagnotable, ad hoc, and, not systemic, this, and in this, the government plays a role,
Starting point is 00:48:04 but that plays a bigger role across pentahelics. The world of the way of the city of pedigmsi, huge role in the institution of the community, local communities. So, I'm hoping I, this relatively, if they're crook,
Starting point is 00:48:26 same and with all the catersatason and the this year is a big year for us as you know, the world spotlight is in Indonesia
Starting point is 00:48:40 this is we need we're making, that's making, to make a transformation in the peningatant productivity we're going to make, my
Starting point is 00:48:49 friends, to release paper in time but there there's a what, what, yeah, factoid or data
Starting point is 00:48:59 point that we want highlight here in the other than 30thum. The economy is, kind of three-lopan economy is kind of three-lap. Yeah. Tjongok, 10-lipat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah. Okay, they're from base that but they've out-past. And so many people out of poverty and... ...that's almost 800, jute. Now,
Starting point is 00:49:23 one of data that, that, if, lotot to us, this is per 1,000 people, the indonesia, to 0.3. Oh, yeah. Endash quite.
Starting point is 00:49:39 In Hongk, 9. In Singapore, 9. This, can, incerminked can the degree of entrepreneurial spirit or entrepreneurship. You, can big on entrepreneurship.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And this is mingamongue with the people you, to the people to the to the world or even more than they're being taking risk, and the
Starting point is 00:50:06 if you're a number of 1,000 per 1,000 people to 7, 9, take the long view, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Gila, yeah, right. Right, and that and it's and it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:50:23 per-per-a-person. Ibarra-you-a-half-a-dyeye-do in a-boss-lid-25-a-dhajave productivit of you nae-a-tenth. You don't want to inflation 50%. Yeah, because you have the...
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah, that's the... That's the... Now, that, how that, for you can. Cuncunions, in, because entrepreneurship this, actually,
Starting point is 00:50:50 actually, there in the other than the other than Indonesia. The other than you're super innovative, brandy-gallowing, and always be a good, that's three entrepreneurial orientations that's that's
Starting point is 00:51:06 studied, maybe 10-tahun-tawn the last. But, problem is our entrepreneurial spirit is because the way of the we're in
Starting point is 00:51:20 institutusical desire to be entrepreneurial it's actually the sector informal so. Because from 64 UMKM is
Starting point is 00:51:34 very little that actually transformed to be a number 3. 0.3? 0.3? Singapore, Butchutely, what is what we're
Starting point is 00:51:50 what we're going to be able to be accelerate. Basically, how do you revolutions our way to to be able to move up and system we have to create a company, but to create a company, but to close a company. Because it's a headache, you,
Starting point is 00:52:13 make a business, the mission a new agagal, yeah, there's forgiving sets of policies regulations, so that they're finally can't
Starting point is 00:52:24 end up and start again. So, the concept limited liability is going to be the cissy
Starting point is 00:52:32 we, this we have under the law number 24 about economic creative, that's
Starting point is 00:52:38 the paper 24, 2000, 2002, but also is the issue. Now, this is
Starting point is 00:52:42 that's a good a good a good a good a good a good a because of the right now isaqi because of the law that's a lot right now that'seroying yeah we're gonna dovetraean and then there assessor for oh the lagu-necuhnagued here kitha this kind of gita iny can't It's from the karyana, we can do not doxioning it. We can't make money. Baja can't make credit. Mnardueh, because DNA of the of the Indonesian, is DNA,
Starting point is 00:53:22 tangu, resilient, and entrepreneurial, this is relative, It's more more of the more of a firm for a new from 1,000 people to the number, maybe 3, 6, to eventually 9. Life changing.
Starting point is 00:53:45 And productivity automatically, will be it. That's going to increase, so much. So, so. So,
Starting point is 00:53:52 the, the urusance is perjinnan. Wow. Wow. I know you have to But if we can't go about it, can't four james I'm going to ask.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I'm going to ask for sure, can't two. I, too, when I'm, to, idolat Sosok, the name of Yopévé. In my view, he is the godfather. You're in his creations. Betul.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I'm, if you're, I got, like you can't be like you have you can't have but make actualisasican. And he, he's, great for vision on behalf, but you, too, complete the circle, because there's unsure of wierousaha'anoura-usahannia. or whether or quite isative, talk. By the way of your experience,
Starting point is 00:54:54 yeah, then previously, he's maybe not ever have been a lot of people. You know that'd be kind of cool? Wow, I was to the menrion this,
Starting point is 00:55:08 because this, landai 16 is, is, and, the car and then, and telecommunications.
Starting point is 00:55:20 You know, you know, how the reform in our telecommunications was driven by him. So, the portfolio of his, you know, partwisata, and also the sisi telecommunications that's at the same. So, up the time,
Starting point is 00:55:38 the time, Yop Afei, we still make sure the vibes. Rohing in this, he's in the genomic this ishousal. So he's even figure that iconic and transcendental in sector paroicita, and maybe many sectors that other. To be in the same sentence, with him just, Goda. Amitaba, that, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:07 But challenge for us all in this. The young leaders that the people that the the young leaders, that's the is how we can't let'serous can't legacies of the day. Nusadua, it was his idea. Mandalayka was his idea. If you're in the rest of Parndyke,
Starting point is 00:56:37 the Desa Wisata, that, Pariqa, who, that's fromalike. Now, we're trying to, how much The chasiered, and with the issue, and with the economy we're having to be able to complete the circle.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Bro, I can't even say, if you can narrasic 4,500 that was plus 5, the new ballies, suckur, succour, $85,000, that will be generational.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And it's It's more great than what you've been by you've gothuevae. I'mu'd, inshawlis. I'm doaing, bro. Many doa. People people,
Starting point is 00:57:25 people are many, who are much, who's who are executions? Execution. Execution. It's easy. It's not,
Starting point is 00:57:31 it's a repot, bro. Repet, but, but, but, but, but, but, you know, one that's, and I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:57:39 I'm because I'm because of the now, I'm a boy who's actually gave a mandate that's quite lebar and he's giving me even though there's a lot of the time and like, and like, so one of the leuasasance for me to be more innovation,
Starting point is 00:58:03 be adaptation and be collaborative. Thank you, thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. Thank you. Thank you. That's the man, that's Mentiary, Sandojana Ong.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Thank you very. This is end game.

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