Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Sandiaga Uno: Tanah Gemah Ripah, Ramah, Bernilai Tambah
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We invested in MotoGp probably with the other than
maybe 2.2 trillion dollars, and
and,
like I talked in the endgame the last,
I'm more looking at actually
that the trajectory for us to winning an Oscar
or international award is to make the more the next.
This year is a big, big year for the year for,
for us. As you know, world spot life is in Indonesia.
This is the machine we're making,
that's the most of the transformation
in the Permanentucketka' Productivity.
Hello,
the time,
today we're getting
Bapa Sandiaga Uno,
as a member,
from the
government,
and badan, pariwisata,
and economy creative.
Bro, Sandi, thank you very.
I'm going to thank you.
This is the other.
Thank you very much.
And,
and it's just like we're lugue just.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not so much formal.
But this is,
but this is
we're making
in
the Mentiaryan
Parwisit and Economy Creative
is a
culture that
very well
decatakan
informal, because
the sector's also informal.
And because of the creative economy,
we're still like startup,
so the make of the way of it.
So, the way of it,
this is the most
for the ministerian
our.
Very,
um,
maybe casual,
but there's sentuhan
buddha,
sentuhan product,
product,
economic,
creative.
What is,
as long as you
to the
that's part of the
that's the part of the
thing that's
very game changing.
At the time,
the time,
it's the time
that's the most
bad for the sector
parwisata,
where the
level of the
visitawan is
to turn 75%
and then the very next year
down 80%
so, so that's
got to the impottinger.
So,
priority at all
that we're, how
to help
the entire
land of Indonesia
incorporated this
to get over
COVID.
Not, it's
not, I've got,
to do.
Sautifixircuit,
certifications for
protocol of the health
integration,
peduling,
need-in-sum-
to,
even to get-bant
the help
the back-and-and-a-ventilator.
So, yeah,
when, you know,
really, really,
like, in the
situation,
so,
sector,
we could,
and, you could
help the panananan
pandemic.
Now,
And then,
we're just
we're going to look
what we're possible
we're doing
to recoverie.
So,
we're blessed
to have
a
visitor who
turned out of
resilient,
quite
strong,
that's
so,
so
usatansansara
that
carry much
of the
heavy lifting.
So,
the,
that's in the hotel,
while in the kind of
the turhunian that is,
it's about the USATOANNusantara
who's being issued.
They,
even though,
even,
the,
the
the
at
the
total
for usatown
mancan-negara,
at
can't
can get
and be
And,
and the Ussarantra
this is the U-Santhra
this, can't
even with
with the
because the
it's very
and that
and that
the
charat-charat
can be
must be CR.
Now,
they've
still
to over the
target.
So,
for the year
target we're
550-juta
Weasatahua Newzantara per September
of this, it's over.
So, so weisatawan Nusantara this is
who's a major-salmat.
Now, before February, March,
this we're doing reactivation and
lintas the Comentrier and the Permanentryan Lembaga,
we'll start the border our,
and the per-rebangan first
to Bali, from Manchanegara, from March.
But per day this, we've got to be able to make sure
that recovery that's significant.
So, the Visatown Mancahagara also got.
And from the Visatan Marcia Nogar that we're not we're
perkirakan, that's...
From what, from the way, from back again China,
back again, from Japan, from Korea, from top 10.
It's the top of Australia.
Australia, during, number 5.
Now, top 5, there's India.
There, India, not-adda, no.
Even, no, no, penerbangen, long.
So, I'm going to look, this, guys,
many lesson learned,
many
also,
maybe if we're going to
that transformations
that's full with serendipity,
we know,
we know what,
we're not,
wow, we're not
we've got basis alam,
ushata ber basis
buddha,
nature and culture,
quality tourism,
sustainability, focus.
And this is
the,
rewrite pariwisa
Indonesia to the
What do you think you
that you've been in context
the way that's
for the international?
Trenata, the
pandemic winners, and this
also random walk, and
it's, you know, it's, you know,
get to, in the
one the three, it's, desa-wisata.
So,
So, so that's about 85,000 desa in about 5,500
who has data-tarick-wisata and
have products product economic creative that menunge.
Now, we're mapping,
and now there's 4,000 that's identifications,
we're making to big data,
we're work with technology providers,
we look at the pergareters,
from heat map and like,
in the time of the end of pandemic,
they justroo,
they're just to know 30%.
Wow.
Destination line newsruck,
that desa-witsa-witsa-wisata
that's up 30%
and,
and,
and,
one,
the open-upan-lapang-upan-the-lapagraphing,
and,
and, again,
and,
and, actually,
we'll take-eachan,
to make appreciations
anagrahares
to the best of the best of the best of
from 5,500 total
that 4,000 that's already
we need 3,500
again has to make data
now this we'll pick up
every year 50, 50 and
gettemu, the world class,
world class, after it's,
airstroon, bertigrant,
like in Sulawesi Tengara,
we've got a desa the city of the world,
desa penelipurant in Bali.
There are desa that men who's in the way of the way of thean-wit-o,
desa-langaran in the Gunung Kidol.
There are wistakia.
In-mana, in Gunung Kidul.
So,
so...
So, they're this, what do you know, is a gun-wale-in-purpan.
So, if for the
people for the people,
they're like,
to be a little bit more
and then it's a lot of
years that
jawa,
that's endang
in the area
gung kidul,
and,
actually,
the formation batunus like this.
And we have
carifan local
that,
opang.
So amazing.
Because of Bali, can, and d'allan
we're not even
to manjacking
with the
Kekwatraqqaqaqaqaqa
you're not only
big fan of Bali
but you're an investor too.
We're an investor too.
We're inisksaqa
national,
all of course
that's focused on the Bali.
That is the
Now, President,
to dis-barae-to-l-lis-bara,
we'd say, super-priority
to propang Bali,
that's Danautoba,
Borobudur,
Mandalika, Labuan-Bajou, and Likupang,
four y'-op-uped
in Pinasatatatara.
But, okay,
before five, this,
you'll look,
how you can't
how you can mucu
perkemankan in the
in the $85, because this is great
if you've got to look at $7,500.
Right, right.
We're the most of the most,
the most of the data.
So, maybe the most
the most to meet you
is,
it's,
with,
the amputahiran data
from where they are,
how it's how it's
how to get to
promotion,
we're in the showcashy
we're doing the time
digital, showkising
product products
product economic creative
because we're not
just to look,
I'm not just
rohally,
romoyan who only
look at,
but how they're
making jade and
buy product product local
so.
So, so that local economy
is ganked,
UMKM is also
made up can't
manfa'
feeling I feel like
in 2004
I'm very much
if it's 5,500 this
already terdata
and then
maybe
not just mulek mulek
500
a just that
who's just
able to
local champion
this
every single
17 SDGs
you hit
the sustainable
development goals, empowering poverty, gender equality,
the problem of the health and
problem, that's all because ecosystem
is there. And you have the local champion, you have the empowerment.
You look at local government, how response?
This can you can't boil each other up,
right, so, so that's the smanget.
And, and, rather, they're all,
and that they're saying,
The area, like that.
And they're not-mahal-mahal,
you know, not-lux-lun-lun-a-lund.
Intervency is collaboration, lintas-pemir-Permintas,
ajaracacic-gues-a-cass-platia,
cash-platia, penampingingan, access-permodalan.
And, tibba-bibba-l-national,
that's-old, be-unded to-un-sin.
Coole-cule of the country,
Cofa-Darwisans,
the head of the U.S.S.A.R.S.A.R.A. Borgas.
Borg. Borg. KATHLEENI-QA-Dur-Wuhrase.
Wadu. Oh, doodoo.
Wadu, they've got-gias.
Self-y.
With you.
SELFY.
Posting.
Oh, we've got amplification.
And,
and, because,
because, you know,
we, as you know,
we, can,
we've got,
refocus, right.
So, yeah, yeah,
we've got prioritized
to give-of-the-bijerkasks that we can deliver
to make an aspect inclusivity.
And, it's a half-torn this World Economic Forum
made appreciates,
and we jumped 12 ranks
from the position before
now we're overhauled Vietnam, Malaysia,
and for the very first time, Thailand.
So.
So,
so.
Trenuanting
policies and
inclusivitazes
from policies
is,
the value our
our own.
And,
and,
I'm the kind of
indianation
because
destinations
desinations
visit our
our
is so beautiful.
This,
this,
if,
for the
people,
I've
got got
got to
get
really,
but
this,
So this can doitia is to
if it's notherasional
can be able to
from, apakly that,
$7,500,000,
$85,000.
But this,
maybe be correlations
with
how to narrasiccans.
This is many,
though,
with people local,
and how they
can't be narrasically
in the
language international.
What that is
it can do?
So,
from the
area.
Now, this I
I'm from endgame, bro.
Right.
And game, this is your search to find a good narrator
about the
good narrator.
Now, I'm
get to meet with local
local leaders here.
Yeah.
I'm just trying.
Because in-balik set-up destination
that, there story-nomics.
So, so there's
the story-trick-in-ne.
So, there's a wisata,
like in NTT, in Mangaray, in the
Kampung, Wairebo.
Yeah.
That's just to becap, oh, this is epic, bro.
You hiking, five kilo, najerk.
Sampheed to get to get, there's a little.
Now, but there's a story, you know,
that this is a place, by Llewur,
be made,
the place
great,
for them for contemplation,
be tafacur,
ber-discucusi,
mouchawarhamu-fakat,
and,
and, again,
local, local, champion.
Now,
it's been,
the Uisatown Manceng,
not there,
that's,
we're coming.
We're not going to,
the whole-hunt-juta
that's done,
infrastructureing is already,
promosiness,
it's just out of
lawn jaguan in
kawasan.
We'll get,
we'll just have
focus on the quantity
do you.
Focused in quality
just.
How much
quality?
Two, just.
Length of stay
and quality spending.
How do we get them
to spend more than
$1,100
which usually
$100 per visit
which usually
usat-ta-oan-nagra
spend?
How much
how can spend
$2, $2xed-dolat.
That's the impact that's super,
super critical to be the local economy.
Length of stay.
Indonesia is due to three days,
people come on June,
and back on a week,
how they stay a week, de.
If you're a good thing,
Thailand, how to get two days?
Thailand, d'A.
In fact, five days.
Wow.
Because they have some of destinations.
If we can come back to Bali,
weekend red,
we're going to.
Right.
Now, how they're making
reprimanding,
what other than there's
remote working,
there's digital nomads.
This, we can't
teller,
oh,
selan you can be
Bali,
you can't go
bado,
there,
diving the carin,
there,
there also
also,
there,
there, also,
there,
there's...
Buruntun to,
Bali, Lombok,
Sumbah,
Summa.
Yeah,
that's one
one tarigan,
that.
That's just like, if you're majestic.
Gila.
Travel pattern we've got to, we've done focused
that travel pattern.
This if you want four days,
this you're what you must see look.
If you must include Bali, this combination.
Maybe to Boro Boudur, maybe to Labuan Bajou.
If you're five days, you can extend.
Bissue BRO,
you can get sensation
the bigot.
concept 3S
the bigotaned by the
Visatown Manca Negara is
Sun, Sea and Sand
Now we'll add to the new
3S
serenity
spirituality and sustainability
Soapability
So we're
Begrang
And we're going to begrang
And we're saying
Toes the PPPB
PPP this
Pertenant town
this one of this, we may not be able to catch your number, but we're going to improve with the
quality and sustainability part.
Where I'm going to designations, desinations, will all transforming into electric vehicle
Bali by 2030, and Autobah by 2035, how we'll remove all single-use plastics from our critical
supply chain, how
how we're going to
reduce food loss and food waste
in destinations,
we're the first ministry that commits to
the Glasgow Charter.
So, in ASEAN, we're the ASEAN I'm
first, we're the Kmetryan first
who's net zero strategies.
And it's, we've got...
So it's the 2035.
Now, now we're going to be 8%.
Net 0, 2005, that's the he had to be.
No, 2003, we will cut our carbon emission by 50%.
Okay, so in 2008, to 4.
Okay.
But we'll do even better by 2045, completely net zero.
Okay.
Great.
So, great.
So, yeah, we aim high.
We've done to be able to be able to be able to be.
Amen.
Okay, if you if you look,
if you look,
if you look,
this is the same or on the other
pre-COVID,
the local,
you asked.
I just checked the number.
Because you've got to
I'm stressed.
Okay, I'm just stressed.
No, God.
You, a person, because
macet.
Because of stress because of it.
Plot, so I'm worried,
went to me.
So, I checked.
If you know what's about 5% percent, fair, fair.
And but if we're, this can we talk about impact to the economy,
so it's about, but if weasatawan Nusantara is almost back at the pre-COVID number.
But, Chief, Chief, because pre-COVID number,
we've gotagliant parliusat that's
not too well-quality.
Now, now with troboasan,
with big data,
with local economic,
creative products that we can't
dampaknesses to make,
the impact-necognomists and local communities,
that's a number guy.
Because you're a number guy.
What makes you think so?
We're going to.
So, we're going to,
our bussathek our way
dampen to GDP,
why not up to up,
but,
but,
we're also
we're also
we're out
this number,
we're not too
dampak
like Thailand or Philippines.
But we're now building.
now building with quality tourism we're now back at contributing parwisata to around
four and a half percent of GDP.
But the creative economy side, we're number three in the world now in terms of contributions
to GDP.
First is America with Hollywood.
Second is Korea, K-pop, Draco.
We've got seven and a half percent of creative economy sectors contributing to GDP.
So the two sectors combined, 40 million
Indonesians around 12% of GDP.
but my aim, if we're really,
if we focus and move into this transformations
of the new era of tourism,
which is focus on quality and sustainability,
we will hit 15% of GDP by between 2025 to 2030.
And be it to get to thinkatting again by 2045
when we are hopeful,
fully top five in the world.
Amen.
Amen.
That's 20% contributions of 2 GDP.
From wisata and creative.
And creative.
If you're, okay, you're passionate
about about WMKM or micro-MKM.
If you look from data,
the per-MKMKM,
now, that's,
because of the wisata,
has been to pre-COVID or pra-COVID?
No.
So this, because you're a trade guy, you're a
you're a lot of investment trade.
No, no, I'm going to say.
But I'm a good, guru,
you're a content creator, you're a local hero.
This show, many of the people, Jif.
Amen, I'm going to be a lot.
I'm saying, when I was, when I was,
when I came, I looked, this good,
because, can, we know,
We have not yet yet has been
There's a lot of
There's a lot more
See howl-you-soor?
No, but I look at it,
but it's been
It's a lot
Yeah, yeah, and
I'm great-d-and
I like when you
with you with
M.
M.
And,
and Baratnaw also I
like I'm
that from
from the
Pemorten.
But I'm also
salute
when you're going to
with the people,
of the people of the people of the people of the
Usa Usa Haasah.
That's, that's
muddhavening.
Anyway, let's go back.
UMKM, the number is staggering.
Because in
economy creative,
this is 99% UMKM also.
And if we're bedah
that,
that he is that
is a very dampak
and recovery
this uneven.
So,
So the recovery is completely k-curve.
Yeah, like this.
For the only-recovered, doing very well,
it's the single determinants is whether they are able to digitize or not.
Yep.
So, he can digitalizations,
he'll just recoverying, uh,
but when it's been, uh,
but when it's been a pandemic,
then,
then caught in a situation,
he can't digitalization,
he justro,
stay
in the place,
even more than much
that's up.
So, so much
so.
So, the job of
publicization
from
the 64 million or so
UMKM.
Now,
the task my
boss,
Mr.
Jokoeui
is you go
digitize,
30 million,
and a
half,
or more,
from
UMKM.
So we've done
20 million already.
but the likes of the Tokopoevokovac,
and other than other than the other things.
Now, the 20 million is done.
We have about 18-bulan again
to digitize the hardest
or the next 10 million is the hardest.
Because the 20 is relatively much on board
in digital economy.
But the 10 is the extra effort.
Krak-ne of UMKM.
Istick.
If you can't even if you're in the skinning,
maybe 5% more than
than the crack of the commiskinan
from 5% to 3% that's hard.
Now, this is that we're trying with
with a plaitian, penampingan,
we're just going to desinations,
so I'm, this practically,
yeah, senen slasah in Jakarta,
Rabu, to Mingue, yeah, in the area.
in the area.
You're active
really up to the end.
Okay,
now we're going to roll
the 5.
Titic Bali Baru this.
Balibu.
Kelas.
Danotoba.
Danotoba, this special
because
he's same,
nature and culture.
And unique,
because this
there's story
also.
Rastus-a-touan-tallon
there's a
of the gung raksasa,
and made uphirted
and one
the landau
that's
I'm going to
know about it
75,000
that's
this life changing
life changing and
and at that
that
I don't know what
what that's
but what
that's
it's kind
indah
and
and
to be
one
designation
that super epic
in my opinion
so
So we'll keep the usual suspect that's,
that's quite is infrastructure.
Yeah.
The part of the st.
So,
baguagued,
the P.U.P.R. team, Kementhub,
I'm going to beaub
in the board's,
needin interconnectivity
from road systems.
I'm in the SDP
I, I,
I'm doing a plightion
to people people of the people
people around people who are in Jakarta
not can't be it. He said, because
other cultures in there, not welcoming,
but when I,
three-bunum-partama,
came to bolang-balik, by the way, I broke every minister's
records in visiting
Dano-tobah, one year, nine days I'd
that I'd come. That's, you've got to look at it.
You've got to be a-en-nank, that?
Sempot, bernan, that.
And I love open water swimming.
So I'm...
I've been to do, that, too, do you know, I've been trying.
Sempet, because the problem
caramba jarring gropung,
it's not disarrant to be able to winang
because there's been a bit.
But now, now.
So, I'm back back to the end up.
Sdeme's, making the best thing that's the best right now.
Tava, and we've got to be done to be able to be able to be able to be able to be
tautombe.
Borobudur.
Borgh,
Bhaan, I want to share.
So,
the tessis my
about
75,000 years
long ago
because
the
that was
that make murek
more
more than
two million
material
that
that's
it.
It's
it's,
it's,
so it's,
So there's what's about 1,
some of 1, there who's what about 1,000,
there who's what I'm about 1,000-1-000.
And that population of the world
to 3,000 to 10,000.
And this I can say,
the peran Indonesia,
to re-ribute humanity
one-one that's one that's
in the history of mankind.
Because 5,000 years
that, 70, that's that's
the last,
there's already
revolution of cognitive.
Tiber,
the otak manusia
and it's
much more.
And that I'm
correlations with
the situation,
that's it,
that's the
people who survive,
3,000
people,
from 10,000 people,
from,
maybe,
juta-an,
that,
that,
it's,
he's,
be smarter.
Be able
and be
So it's a adaptatat because they're
Gumpet in goa,
umpett in anywhere.
Pursing...
Yeah.
This is the rebutting of humanity.
It's...
...bara,
Tambora, Krakata, that's kind of
1815, Krakato, 1882.
That's also making the
galapal of the universe.
It's a cataclysmic,
like toba.
Toba.
Toba, this historically,
the most
by orders of magnitude.
Intenatine.
It's...
Now, this, if this is...
...nowing this is that...
Yeah, this is...
...and I'm gonna'aner...
...and...weean...
...theatrophalogy, anthropology,
...and, tuntunun intellectual, and,
...and, this ishatt.
I'm not...
...narrasi that's long as long as we're
...that we're...
...letusance...
...letusan... ...the ...letusan three-one, ...letusan, ...the last one,
The last year's about 75,000 years.
But the impact not...
Dachshad.
We're not ever
...massooking it to in the narrative.
That's that's
that's...
So, if not there's
if there's this,
if not there's a...
...ot our...
...manying we're still...
...mast we're not bicketal.
And we're not bi-pedal.
Now, we're bi-taddle,
so it's two-kaki just.
And it's...
...and it's...
...mungbohmah...
Polarize, evolution,
that's great-me-manor-a-volus.
And that's men-chong revolution
pertanian, can, 12,000 years ago?
So, we can branding this
is Indonesian contributions to mankind.
We played us.
Big role in starting over.
I always learn something when I meet you,
go.
Okay, okay.
So, I'm going to get-muel,
I'm going to belajure something.
No, I, I'll baca,
I've got to bea, journal,
and book about this,
book that's written by Ali Physica,
Ali Anthropology,
and even,
Jared Diamond, Yuval,
Michiukaku,
all about
the casegian this.
And,
there's,
who's been explored
that,
that's the person
is very perpurn
to rebut
to humanusiaan.
Because,
without cognition,
humanusian,
dead.
With what we can't
75,000 years ago.
Yeah.
We're one-one,
yeah,
but we're 99%
same with chimpanzee.
But we can be imaginesy.
He can't be imagination.
Now, this is because of cognizis we
can.
We can have
creativity
because our cognitive
capability.
Because of theobah.
I'm
big hypotesa to that.
Amazing, yeah.
Yeah.
But let me do my research,
and I'll come back to you.
Oh, do
I'm very much.
Boro Bore Bore Burtur.
That's our contribution to mankind, Boro Boudur.
And, and,
I'm just learned, I'm going to be a
Bhaer this, relief, this,
this, it'sin what, and, and, and, and,
sogain.
So, that, Boro Boudur,
we've been, we've been
We're notic-and-and-iturcation, we're
the right. So, the president,
don't get-tabrackan
the aspect parwisata, aspect
economy, with conservation. Conservasiness
the other, we'll be included. And this is
working. Abis it, Mandalika.
Mandalika, this is actually beautiful, you know the place,
but it's really beautiful, you know the place, but it's
Antic-a-a-a-a-a-puner.
So, we've got to create recovery by inviting MotoGP.
At least we invest in the MotoGP circuit,
and now it's already to look at, and the Dampact
we invested in MotoGP that
probably, with circuit and like,
and so in all in all,
$2.7 trillion.
But the impact
but the last
$5.8 trillion
from
economic impact
and direct impact to the local economies
$4.3 trillion.
So it seems to be
heading in the right directions.
Labuan Bajo,
Tamaan National Commodos,
four-rebut-one. Again, same like Borobudur,
we have to build single narratives,
meshingas, that conservation aspect sustainability
is going to be first and foremost of our priority,
and the other,
and, and, and, and, and, and,
and this, we have to say,
So that'seracan
can't
we're clarifications, we're
we're justiccans, we're
engage and we're just
can't get buy-in from them.
Now, the baller sulet,
four, it's
all on the right track.
Bola that's sullid, this
Likupam, bro.
This is in Minasasawutara.
I just heard
to gettenan, boss,
I'm, I'm taking
tumbling service.
There's a thing
that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like
NTT yeah.
Wow.
This is level C level,
Nannu,
it's not done my job enough.
So,
so,
other from promotion,
we're like to
know.
But,
but we're
but we're
not too,
but it's not too
but it's
the cause of
legupang is
there is in garis
Wallace.
And garis Wallace,
as you know,
the most unique
from the same from flora, from the way, fauna,
terrain, topography, and like that's the way.
So, that's what we're going to drawong
in concept ecotourism and visata,
the water.
Because diving is completely out of this world, amazing.
You, why not,
make quiz just, in all Indonesia,
for, who,
the, the,
the, the of the language Indonesia and the other
This isa-isks-asks this.
This islequisting-masukes
from the five objects-wisata-in.
This is a scale,
we've got test,
and it's the result
we're looking
the right timing.
Because we have limited bandwidth,
to be honest.
So I do the parieto rule.
Let's focus on what we can do
within this short,
18-month period of time.
Now, for the
the other than the other
in the other
like that's effective.
It will be our priority
for legal parties.
Hadiaean, if you're
men,
if you can't self-y-mall-you-
Yeah?
That's not that
people who,
young who
know-nug-noling
magasical,
whatever,
sure to,
to,
know,
that's a good idea.
Abis it,
you,
500, then 75,000 object
Visata.
So, if it's...
If you're 8,000,
there Wikipedia's.
Gila.
That's database that we're talking about.
Yeah.
Now, I want to ask.
Weak-neatting Wisatawan
international, 15-juta-an,
yeah.
2019, bro, 17.
16.9 million.
I, I, too,
there's no reason
to we can't get
to get to get to
get to get $150,000.
Yeah, yeah.
Because with a lot of the 8,000 object ofisata, when do you see that happening, 150
jutsuania, I would say, if we can redistribute, because this is,
16.9 jute.
There was an over-tourism in Bali
Salatan.
You know.
We have not done
enough of a good job
to distribute
destitination this
so that the
the power tampung
from carrying capacity
of each
destination
this destination
this is
still
to give
a lot
which is a mannang-likean,
and other than the other than
soaguen't.
So I would say
it will take between
10 to 15 years.
The first is
three concept
accessibility.
You need for this
thousands of
destinations
this
this is
inter-connectivity
not only
that
the
but we have we have we have to lookitivity
in terms of digital connectivity
SDM's the same and the other than and things
it will take maybe 10 to 15 years
but with the technology
internet of things this is
it's very much and it's
and it's been percepat
the amenities we need to build
accommodation it took Nusa 2
25 to 30 years to get there
So this is kind of
And the last,
attraction. Now,
we're not-cala
because
tarit-tari-tarian,
the place selfie,
then,
music, film,
aded-isti-adets,
the place,
where we have such an abundance of supplies.
So,
the key that is infrastructure.
And,
back back to
podcast our time
to the other than the other.
Dooku, bro. Dooku.
So, if we can
doleckon, maselago that
invite private sectors,
bring
investors,
to build accessibility
that will be very
view.
You're looking at
the kindlady
to be intracognactivity,
not inter-connectivity.
In my opinion,
we have too many
international airports in my opinion.
We need to have, I guess,
intracognactivity within,
say I'm going to comeeran,
like Jambi, I'm going to Acheh.
I go to Jakarta first, bro.
I go to Jakarta.
So, hub and spoke,
it's not going to run,
then.
And then,
So, yeah, in-a-a-a-tutra-it-a-tru-it-to-you-law-all-it-it-so.
And we need to build connectivity with a carat.
In Jawa, al-lil-lil, I can't know.
Naipal, I can't go.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Okay.
This we've got to be,
economy creative.
I'm, this,
I'm kind of,
too, in economy creative,
in the perfilman,
right?
What,
you know,
how about
about
about
about?
I'm going to be
optimistic.
Super optimist.
And,
like, I,
I'm talking in
end game
the last
is, I'm
making
that actually
the trajectory for us to wining
an Oscar or international award
to make the cut.
Okay.
And
creativity, we're
really, chief.
Gila.
Yeah.
I'm really.
And with the streaming services
this,
med democratization
all sector,
especially the sector film and content.
you suddenly giving opportunities
for content creators
to make up to
the other people who had before
never had to be thought
and film this
has to puttue
to give you guys more incentives.
incentives.
So,
the Netflix,
I was sitting here.
I've been three
years last year
this, hope to your
platform,
but every night
I look
top 10 stream
that's
the insinician
movie.
Let's say non-Indon Indonesian
content,
that.
Maybe there's
one,
sometimes two.
Yeah,
yeah, photocopier.
Photocopier.
Yeah.
Which I watched twice.
Great.
And I, I think
content content we're more than the
country's the way of the country
so. So, because of the
second two weeks
last, I
let's talk about
statement, if we
collectively
curangin'n'nondon
dracor's one,
more drabath,
drama Batak, or
Drasun, drama Sunda,
or drabal, drama Bali,
this...
Dragor.
Dram Gaurontalo.
Drama Gorontalo or
drama...
Manado,
that,
Neracha
that will improve
great.
K-K-K-K-K-K-K-Pen.
And if they're
K-Pak-Pi-Pop,
Ganti to Dikov,
D.
This, this, I can,
RACA-Go-Gua,
will be a lot more improved.
But,
with this only I'm very sure.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I'm not sure.
I'm really,
and if we're not,
and if you're in the world chief.
Ah, this film we're really,
really terujied in Malaysia,
the kakaan Desa Penhry,
penitistan two, communion,
Yvana, and other than that,
sogain.
So, I mean, I think the possibility of
I, I'm going to win international award
from you, it's mixed feeling,
but, actually, I kept on telling the guys,
you see a big wave
try to fight it but serve on it
how much. I know
I know, I'm not able to watch
I'm, I'm afraid, I'm, I'm dead-deked-terus
but my name's the honor
so we're not gonna be two
one, one, one,
it's-tisksa, but yeah,
but then, yeah, that's the other,
the other thing that's...
I'm...
I'm a gombo, with horror.
Jomoi?
No, FOMO.
Not fomboe.
Yeah, not too.
I can look without it, but what can do it.
But what I'm going to take to the front.
I'm going to look at the low-hanging fruits
there in sectors that you opened,
y'itit, which wisata or pariwisata and economy creative.
You'll look, not there's bributti-bukti-bukti
that's tangible for we can really,
to really, really can't even better-to-mingact-productivity.
Because we're not a lot of the other than
the country and the same productivity.
And, at least, if we're going to be around inflation,
perang with resuscity, perang with resuscity,
pern't with whatever,
more we're productive,
as much we can protect our own own.
You look, you've been meddick micro-U-M-KM,
you've been bidic economic creative,
anyone in the wiseraping,
you know, look at them,
you know,
to make up to make productivity
so you look at,
they've already
productivity,
it's been making,
two, three,
four, or five-cliffe
by the orders of magnitude.
There,
there's,
there,
some,
but,
but it's anecdotal,
still,
Not so systemic.
So,
so the key of the government,
must be institutionalized
the end up.
And I'm not quite,
I'm saying.
We're not quite,
this is,
one,
definitely,
from the
when you give them
education,
the,
let's know,
and it's tremendous impact.
they're a lot of the technology.
that's a huge role.
When you expose them to technology,
and,
and,
we're not,
we can't get up endang,
they're,
they're,
transformation digital's also phenomenal,
from it,
take telephone,
get-tune,
But I'm just because of Android,
and then you're still
doing with TikTok.
I mean, it's amazing.
So, how much the challenge is
to convert
that t'nagnotable, ad hoc,
and,
not systemic, this,
and in this,
the government plays a role,
but that plays a bigger role
across pentahelics.
The world of the way of the city of pedigmsi,
huge role in the institution of the community,
local communities.
So,
I'm hoping I, this relatively,
if they're crook,
same and with
all the
catersatason and
the
this year is a big
year for us
as you know,
the world spotlight is in Indonesia
this is we need
we're making,
that's making,
to make a transformation
in the peningatant
productivity
we're going to
make, my
friends,
to release paper
in time
but there
there's a
what,
what, yeah,
factoid or data
point that we
want highlight
here in the other than 30thum.
The economy is, kind of three-lopan economy is
kind of three-lap.
Yeah.
Tjongok, 10-lipat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, they're from base that
but they've out-past.
And so many people out of poverty
and...
...that's almost 800,
jute.
Now,
one of data that,
that, if,
lotot to us, this is
per 1,000 people,
the indonesia,
to 0.3.
Oh, yeah.
Endash quite.
In Hongk, 9.
In Singapore, 9.
This, can,
incerminked can the degree
of entrepreneurial spirit
or entrepreneurship.
You, can big on
entrepreneurship.
And this is mingamongue
with the people you,
to the people to the
to the world
or even more than
they're being
taking risk,
and the
if you're
a number
of 1,000 per 1,000
people
to 7,
9,
take the long view,
yeah.
Gila,
yeah,
right.
Right,
and that
and it's
and it's,
it's,
per-per-a-person.
Ibarra-you-a-half-a-dyeye-do
in a-boss-lid-25-a-dhajave
productivit of you
nae-a-tenth.
You don't want to
inflation 50%.
Yeah, because you have the...
Yeah, that's the...
That's the...
Now, that, how that,
for you can.
Cuncunions, in,
because entrepreneurship
this,
actually,
actually,
there in the other than the other than Indonesia.
The other than you're super innovative,
brandy-gallowing,
and always be a good,
that's three entrepreneurial orientations
that's
that's
studied,
maybe 10-tahun-tawn
the last.
But,
problem is our entrepreneurial spirit
is because
the way of the
we're in
institutusical
desire to
be entrepreneurial
it's actually
the sector informal
so.
Because from 64
UMKM is
very little
that actually transformed
to be a
number 3.
0.3?
0.3?
Singapore,
Butchutely, what is what we're
what we're going to be able to be
accelerate. Basically, how do you
revolutions our way to
to be able to move up and
system we have to
create a company, but to
create a company, but to close a company.
Because it's a headache, you,
make a business,
the mission
a new agagal, yeah,
there's forgiving
sets of policies
regulations,
so that they're
finally can't
end up and
start again.
So,
the concept
limited liability
is going
to be
the cissy
we, this
we have
under the
law number 24
about
economic
creative,
that's
the paper
24,
2000,
2002,
but also
is the issue.
Now,
this is
that's a good a good a good a good a good a good a because of the right now isaqi
because of the law that's a lot right now that'seroying yeah we're gonna dovetraean
and then there assessor for oh the lagu-necuhnagued here kitha this kind of gita iny can't
It's from the karyana, we can do not doxioning it.
We can't make money.
Baja can't make credit.
Mnardueh, because DNA of the
of the Indonesian, is DNA,
tangu, resilient, and entrepreneurial,
this is relative,
It's more more of the more of a firm
for a new
from 1,000 people
to the number, maybe 3, 6,
to eventually 9.
Life changing.
And productivity
automatically,
will be it.
That's going to
increase,
so much.
So, so.
So,
the,
the urusance is perjinnan.
Wow.
Wow.
I know you have to
But if we can't go about it,
can't four james
I'm going to ask.
I'm going to ask for sure,
can't two.
I, too, when I'm, to,
idolat
Sosok, the name of Yopévé.
In my view, he is the godfather.
You're in his creations.
Betul.
I'm, if you're,
I got, like you can't be like you have you can't have
but make actualisasican.
And he, he's, great for vision on behalf,
but you, too, complete the circle,
because there's unsure of wierousaha'anoura-usahannia.
or whether or quite isative,
talk. By the way of your experience,
yeah, then previously,
he's maybe not ever
have been a lot of people.
You know that'd be kind of cool?
Wow,
I was
to the
menrion this,
because
this,
landai 16
is,
is,
and,
the car
and then, and telecommunications.
You know,
you know, how the reform in our telecommunications
was driven by him.
So, the portfolio of his,
you know, partwisata,
and also the sisi telecommunications
that's at the same.
So, up the time,
the time, Yop Afei,
we still make sure the vibes.
Rohing in this, he's in the genomic this ishousal.
So he's even figure that iconic and transcendental
in sector paroicita, and maybe many sectors that other.
To be in the same sentence,
with him just, Goda.
Amitaba, that, bro.
But challenge for us all in this.
The young leaders that the people that the
the young leaders, that's the
is how we can't
let'serous can't legacies of the day.
Nusadua, it was his idea.
Mandalayka was his idea.
If you're in the rest of Parndyke,
the Desa Wisata, that, Pariqa, who,
that's fromalike.
Now, we're trying to, how much
The chasiered, and with the
issue,
and with the economy
we're having to be able to complete
the circle.
Bro, I can't even say,
if you can narrasic
4,500
that was
plus 5, the new ballies,
suckur, succour,
$85,000,
that will be generational.
And it's
It's more great
than what you've been
by you've gothuevae.
I'mu'd, inshawlis.
I'm doaing, bro.
Many doa.
People people,
people are many,
who are much,
who's who are
executions?
Execution.
Execution.
It's easy.
It's not,
it's a repot, bro.
Repet, but,
but, but,
but, but,
but,
you know,
one that's,
and I'm going to be
I'm because I'm because of the
now, I'm a boy who's actually
gave a mandate that's quite lebar
and he's giving me
even though
there's a lot of the time and like,
and like, so one of the leuasasance
for me to be more innovation,
be adaptation and
be collaborative.
Thank you,
thank you, bro.
Thank you, bro.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's the man, that's Mentiary, Sandojana Ong.
Thank you very.
This is end game.
