Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Sharlini Eriza Putri: Ada Semesta di Diri Kita

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

Sudah saatnya kita mengganti pola pikir reduksionis tentang dunia dan kehidupan dengan pandangan baru yang benar-benar holistik. Layaknya tubuh kita yang terdiri dari gugusan mikroorganisme yang harus dijaga keseimbangannya, simbiosis antar beragam entitas yang punya perannya masing-masing mutlak diperlukan bagi suatu masyarakat untuk dapat selamat dari ancaman dan terus berevolusi.

We just like, we stop like the curriculum colonial. No, no reason why process rendering, the new-in-idue, need to need multi-input, and, and, each other is right to know who really

people, she's real-befer, she bison, or he's-gut-or-gut-but-o-o-be-kind. Every person, we can't even we can't say same. This is N-G.

Hello, Thank you. Charleney Putry who, some of the last has been had here. Charlene, thank you, can't come again. Thank you, sir,

thank you, sir, to be here. This is many who are to you and we're, we're, we can't be, what name,

I'm going to talk about about topics. Maybe the one, this the one in the which is COVID, that we've got to over 20-month-old,

this is quite, this is a episode that unprecedented and make-upac-and-mend-and-mend-mend-lung, narration of humanity to the future. I want to hear you on how, so, this, this, and to-de-pac-upon-the-the-cuh-cuit-a-cuh-cuit, and the pastcha COVID, like how? Yeah, sir.

So, if I'm going to talk about COVID, 20-bulan to backang, I'm actually, I'm saying, I'm saying, tagline is Hayati-Lelah, I mean, so. So, ma'am. This, ma'amination,

yeah? This, we're, really, can't be able to be able to beankan, sir, we're not realistic, if we're not realistice, if we're going to be sure, or a nalachal, back again, it's like that's not even a lot of the same-entropy

too, right? So, which is, as far as much asinousantic sering bicaracan, y'et, you know, we're not single-species, this is not perturran between we'll want virus, but we have to be sure we're really, if we're really,

alias, we're, semastal-in-a-sendire, where, the middle of our body, isingingia, virus, it's indeed. So if we have we have we have we have we have If we have people, it's like not much more It's, man, there's also, there's more mutasies, making pinter, and the body our own way to behamed to behamed virus

this. Want it to alami, and debustered again with vaccination, so. So, yeah, the end-ugung-un-in-neglingal can dilemma that many, for us. So, like, so that's what, so that's what? So, like, because of the way, bributézschean-in-it-it-you-law, the musinginging that is,

uh, a lot of, but they're in-papar, bode, we're just, we need, so, so, hi-hati-le-lah, so,

so, what is, possibility and risk-o. So, so we, so we, has to-as-hac-hac-hac-hac-as-as-as-a-hac-as-a-a-ac-a-a-a-cure-a-a-a-a-pac-a-a-cac-a-a-cac-a-cac-a-cac-a-cac-a-cac-cac-a-cac-cac-a-old. This, can, vaccination, has relative, is more good,

than in the more than in the last, even the number of casus per day has drastically been down in thaning several months that's the fact that the fact that maycepherson can't be true, yeah, right? Now, this is how,

to the point? I'm looking at, more than 30% of population tervaccination for subcimation for sumtickan first. If we can't continue, if we can't continue, we can't make, maybe we can't make more than what we've been purgaretka but what risk what, in the next day, that we have to be able to be sure,

if? If for vaccination, I'm just for context in Indonesia, or maybe in the other than what's justro, what's about vaccination is for the last years, right, but in the people who are in the last years, that they're really

not can't be able to keephaling the last, because of themangun the brain, and make sure the sense of self, which is that did get from interaction right in school.

Just who's what I'mahartier can it is, is, sir, sir, I'm not, I'm not. Because, because of RECD, me, with ADB, 175 they've got to make sure they're because they're not enough

because they're not, economical impact that's great great, really. That's the idea that's the same per cent for the last year. And thenac,

and the kids who can't be interact with interaction, with tatamia, the income-in-sumur-hidupes is more than thaning the other than you. Mastutely,

like, yeah, bayangin'a just while while people, if the people, the other than the other than the other than they're not they're not know how much care of work together, interaction,

then tibanky, then, and then, after going to move to work with an MIT, then, and then, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, yeah, can, back, yeah,

the, can, back 12-year, yeah, and, so, the, because the impact of the, that's so much, uh, I think, really for we're

because we're the same because they're not even because they're not being testing, tracing, it's hard for them to make. We're not just just from the body but from the lingungan. Now, because I say from the body and the lingualanar,

because Nusantik's already made up an reset, me, we're we're going to ask, with bunda bunda jama'amanao. Why, a man or with the school? Or, with guru guru ginau, why, because of the law iscault, now, because of the lawlessaniard is lucre, so, even, even

the people, the power of course, too, method of penulairn utah is droplet, but what they're in thinking they are, they're going to be, because from, from, we've always heard, like, oh, this is the airy-leak, that's a lot. That's something that's one, though. It's number one.

So, the, I'm going to make, number one. Bu, but you always think, that's the room that's puttutup. Because the room tertutup, pasty there's back virus in the udariness. Now, meskivun we're making

not back, it's not sure, can't make, and all right, so, because it, Parno, gregate room

that's been p'clock like that, yeah, just, yeah, just, de-the-mach-a-and-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-er-in-in-er-sum. It's assumption

can be challenged one, like that's like, apaka, is a way of a room that's about in a room turtutup yeah,

right, then, then the second is, is, if we're using, the fact of,

the fact, is that we're one-hurt cubique udar, the issue of the virus. Emang,

yeah, paru-pug, we're also many microbiome and it's also melate immunities our, yeah.

The, that's, that, if the water that we're Hirupis, that's that's quite a lot, yeah, yeah, it's about,

but if you're all right, justro, yeah, not what, so, yeah, so, yeah, that's, so, that's the reason why, it's really,

if it's a risk of redact, right, if, you're , yeah, it's a bit of school, that, so, like, to work school, that, and,

and then, the other, the room that, the, and then, question, is, if, from, engineering,

can there's what haveh AC engineering like this is thatata udara it's actually standard WHAO yeah can per-per-orang that's how much litter is he has left and it's also there standard beda-beda-bedinging if room's sick circulation udairn't so if there's been beset virus not sepid never nebarae can if in room the people's heathed,

there's all that all that's all rightmachem that all that's all right so much that we can't be able to beck in New Santics, we've got initiative, where we're going to work, because we're going to beauntary that's people who are supposed to not mampu to pay service that's a bit more than

we can't. Ventilasiness is good or not, concentration virus in the udairn't, if it's beener in-due, then back school. The second, that is, PCR for the kids, we've made more than human,

because cholk, Oh, that's sadraff, all right, right? It's like, like, like, like, that's like that. Not, not that's not, not that. So, that's the last, is gargle, right,

so, it's just, so the other, so that's not even immunization of vaccination of the other 12-year-old to bea-one with 100%.

With like that, that's about back to because, because, like, oh, like, oh, just to give you guys, but, but, but, but, actually, school's not

that, but, I'm refecticke, like, my time, but from interaction, but from interaction. I'm, I'm, and I'm even, maybe, maybe I'm sorry,

oh, I'm a booker, or, he's a, , oh, kakene, do you know, oh, there's urusan, this, yeah, oh, serue, yeah, I, so, I'm,

so, there, , there, there, oh, there's, yeah, and, that, you're, it's, you're, , and, you're, or how, oh, oh, how much more than how much more than how much more than

is a lot more than to be able to look at, like, oh, if there's a friend like patah-hating, how much, that's the way that's kind of making us care, right? Because I, I'm sure, like, if I'm going to be able to be able to, like, Every person of selves, but it's just out if we're really better be testing, with a time like this, like this, like that. We're like that.

We're really better to know. So, really, what, the limit our, the way. That's why the top of the point, that's important, par. Interaction that, that, really, benignable. And not can't be ganty with Zoom. So, how... This, this, can, tabrackan.

It's the important to be able to be able to offline, that's the point of the time. That's the time, okay, if, like, if it's maybe in the kota-kotapur-plomudder, it's more much more than to be-lora. For the kind of we're incur, for we can't make wussingingusation, and line-lain. But if, if at the kota seconder,

in the top-lossop, this is the top, in the way, in the way of the stucinginging. Now, this is, how, in-ruth-a-n-north-a-n-n-law-and-a-lawed. But we're not able to, um, what, yeah, en-cotta-besar it,

it's just-relegged, because just-ru-n-cone. Because, the school-a-the-plosok, they're being out-dor-all-caught, more, can, because of the things like that justro, apollosok, plosok,

that's still the cat, and all kinds of, the people are really, really, have much wisdom about how the land that's the part of our life. They're, like,

they know the the thing's, the sunar, the night, like, the, like, the same, they're all the same,

they, so, so, we're, justru, we're making, again, with value, value,

the, they're, there, there, like, like, It's not all, like that's like that. Yeah, time we've got to beckxed,

people, when I was little, when I was little, when they're in the campbong, can, yeah, they can doodos, while, and stuff, that's what we need to again. And this is aligned, with the a bu, Jamanau,

who think the other kid curriculum is Scandinavian, that, yeah, that's, but... Yeah, but, but, but, but, that's, right. Okay. This is specializations in how we can make up probiotic and other,

like, this, how do you know, for we can't virulatitis from COVID and line, or mutation whatever from COVID-19? We've got over a lot. We've got to make, gado-gaddo, more. or what, so that's about diversity and biodiversity is more than the kind of and that'shousal, multiracial, multieth,

multi-agamma, multi-macham, which is very that's very, that's been rewate. It's coming to our own biodiversity, that's that we've consumed and biodiversity that's in the around our body. And it's be able to be able to get it to get a bit more we can't digas the risk of the COVID-19, or virus whatever, like,

that's mutation of COVID-19. How about? Yeah, sir, part. The challenge's number one is, actually, in Indonesia. This, this, all the world now, but I'm going to be able to be able to be inundasia because caravan local we're not evening.

This, really, we're at titic sejara, where people, too, not can't see human-special again. But we're not only bion, we're in the semestan. from the sameisdh, so, yeah, every person is sadder,

oh, I've been a world of thegare that's not to look at, and have to beagamance to beaumannation specious, disbiosis, after a perang, rusack, like that. So, really,

challenge utamination is, sir, pa. Because if we're really, bad, then, we're not, we're not, we're not,

it's more good, then, it's, like, allam, more, the, so, it, sir, This is this isbiosis is not-dained because it's not been given.

This is a bit aback-a-gat-can with concept that was that was a little more too-a-ture. Diojaroos for us to be active-activist in context competition that's sehat, competition that's But now, but now, but the people are you, you if you're going to take on

Tion, you if you're going to, Ptoe, Ptoe, Tiont-Tiong, Untong. Oh, yeah. Cawan, Tion, is the same. You have dominant, you have monopolistic. Yeah, right?

Now, that's not, not kind of, with the smaget-smangat democracy. Yeah, right? Democracy, this is kind, this is kind of kind of comean-a-man-man, yeah, I try to take care of each, but we're talking about how

democracy this is we're looking good so that redistribution capacity, redistribusity, redistribusity, and that's a man. Sohungalism our own, to be able to be surestead and to be sure that

has fair chance yeah, right? We can't? We can't see phenomena that's dissemination information this is aggagued termination

yeah, right? By, on the unsur-un-sure-un-tertentoo or for the of the important of the unesu-unctu-unuchatismuant, yeah, right? In-manymeda-democratization, not-yambung with the idea that's democratization.

If we're to make up to pay up, the education, to make sure they get to make fun-sies and manfa'at from microbiome to mitigate risk risk, the and the result, so that we need,

it's the system to democratization the idea so that's more more than the idea, the people are more than kind of a little bit more than it, but it's very interesting, point,

point, if I'm, disbiosis, that's domination, the garris-menerring, can't be inatt to monopoly, monopoly platform, monopoly, monopoly monopoly, monopoly, or monopoly, or domination, that's, it's,

regrogotty redistribusy, redistribusy idea, which, where we have to be important so that's a community of wealth, to have to pay with ideas, which they can use the idea, to make up to make up to make up to have risk of the risk of any of the risk of that.

That's, I agree very, sir. I'm saying, what, yeah, distribution information, and idea, can, maybe, secalas, think it must have, with more information, more than better idea, that's. But, actually, yeah, yeah, because in the middle of the box,

the name's, the manusia, with otter. So, like, information that's just as faragam. information just as faragam. like that's like that'sra-tok, yeah, yeah, information that, and information that. And then, information's it.

But, yeah, the idea is, that's just out, if we're really, we're getting information that's different. Because idea, it's out of process of a lot of rendering, rendering. So, really, so it's really. So, yeah, because there's...

There's, there, what, yeah? Systeming, can't beinplex, yeah. make connection, make if, and everything, so if, and so much,

yeah, if you're, if you're going to get, it's not, output it's not. But if you're not,

then, then, kind, rendering, right, and it's clear, it's, that,

is, biosis, is, information. Yeah, so, yeah, so,

diversity flora fauna, diversity buda, of the unethnicitism, agamal, it's not just information,

but diversity, but diversity, idea. Yeah, right? And diversities idea has to beaqaqawn with the kaian

and knowledge. Don't knowledge just without the biggartenan because, knowledge is surplus of dejectsane deficit.

Yeah, right? Now, this, if we want narrasica, narration, the narrative we're in the way that we're

based on diversities, this, you know, it's going to be where-monging, if we're going to exist as democracy, and we want to run-landutisting democratization, this is a lot, ganguanguant. Yeah, can? Democry our, can be said, that's been a lot of a lot of episodes

and several of the other, the other than the other than the media social. Yeah, right? Yeah, can? That's asymmetry information, it's amplification with algorithm. Yeah, right? Yeah, right?

That's the one of the algorithm. Right. So, we can't just make up-bebasan berbiccation with amplification algorithm. That's a lot of parker, if we're if we're going to be in democracy,

we have to make make make amplification algorithm that is just information that's information that good so that's chengly, yeah,

can? It's now not chengly. This amplifications only only just happened with whatever

that's disinformation or misinformation or misinformation, not information, not information that's good or better. Now, this is corrective, if it's been abate.

If this is I'm more sure that democracy will be more in case process democratization will be more biggisanship. Now, if if you're not people,

make the people make something to do you not too... I'm being about I'm being... I'm making many things to mitigate the risk but this is the

part of the people who are to be pertent and if I'm if I'm partaking, if I'm learning who control technology that,

the philosophy the work is we are We just let's just about if there's amplification algorithm for the importance of information that's not bejohnas, this will be neutralized with amplification algorithm

to be with information that good. But the reality is not a the other than this is more dim, not there amplification, this is that's been amplification. Now, that's, I mean, but because of the because of the people's

commercial. Yeah, right? Bad news sales. Yeah, right? Now, it's to correct. Now, that's maybe, maybe it's just the ranker regulation in the negara, negatia, it's like, they're just,

just because they're co-opathing as much as well as much as but they're not them to make them happen. And the kind of regulation that is it, it's built in era the era digital. So it's not in a

chronological. That this is made a hundred-a-town-tallu, or 10-town-tallel while, and era our era we've already has been evolusis as far significant from era that.

Yeah, that's like, because, The stagmanyl, people who are powerful, they're looking, they're being human species, the world is competition, so he's like to control, predator, he's trying to control,

so he's very pragmatic, like, trust has to be monopoly, and currency is is that is the money, so yeah, so, yeah, all, whatever, like, so, But but the paradigm that's not

human being holobion, and the and the second of our body is microbiome and microbiome is that is gothung with our lingungan we're right. Right. So, we're just to try and we're trying to control at what cost.

Yeah. So, abys diversity of the other. So, the diversity is abyset the ecosystem that collapsed, then we're going to get in the money, Like that's, like, if you golly,

the water, diamble, everything, you know, already, it's back again to him. But, it's the thing that's the same thing that's very good, can. Kek, we're rusak, we're rusk, then when the ecosystem's collapse, we'll want to be able from the land to be made, not there again,

right? That, sir, so, sir, so, I'm sure, really, Indonesia, can be a narrator to mingot-in-it-sel-duner-nobion, if we're holobion, holoogon, we're not human again, we're saling-tacid.

So if pambon policy is like, too competitive, we're negasical climate change, we're not going to putaly with the curusackan ecosystem and other, the end-un-unuching, we're not going to be able to give too, then, and then, you know, we're about about perubhani-clim.

This is a topic that's sering-cally I've suorakal. I'm still I'm not quite much. The world is about topic and substansions. If we're going to acu to the Spakotan Paris,

we have to beurangue emissions carbon as much 50% in the time 20% in 20% in 2014 25% the last in 2050,

I'm more than that'sarer, I'm more than that's actually that's success success-upyance or even technology than policy. Yeah?

Yeah. Yeah, right? Policy, maybe, a got a get-gained because, gap or divergency between

linearity in private sector or exponentiality in private sector, and linearity in public sector. But I'm more confident or with the future and per-tumbole-can technology that can obadi emissions carbon that's

not good-seat, with energy terbharucan, temuan, or not that's mobile-listrict, like solar energy, like, even, even, even if you know-up, because nuclear is scale up

because nuclear is one-sumber energy that's scalable and it can be amanked in, scientific, yeah, right? There are some episodes that not beckon.

Now, how, in order, opinion, in the context in Indonesia and in the context in the context of the world? I'm just too, but, but is the technology is the driver

to make the climate change? That's, if I'm not just too, because the end of the end of the june-uner-ener, as a engineer, as a engineer, too. Like, there are capable, who have idea about, oh, how to get to get from, storage, maybe there's electric

vehicle and all the same, options, too, many. But, apaccault, the people are to be able to make up,

and make sure radical and fundamental that, they're going to get-in-signal from, sir. Now, signal from

this, the, massacacat in general, it, not-ke-be- -be-be-be-to- what, that, that's,

that's, that's, that's, not to beaum, because narrations, that's about, if you're not sure that's what people are people get into the winter, so it's hot, it's just,

or, tibet be hot, just, like that. Now, but although, actually, climate change, this, can, domino effect the panhand, ma'am, from the temperature now, and then,

the cutip utah, virus, the virus is, from the time before. And then there's there. after the virus is there's after we've got to be able to be able to make sure. There's also we're making sure. There's also menternaqa bacteria that resistsatting and opat, can? Pandemy again.

So, after there's not a bit of the other. Then, we're going to be. We're the end. We're the end of the system isack. Now, ecosystem is rusk, it's, bag, there's, there's there's there's got to beaereto. and then, right? Now, what's the impact of the rise of suhu to the end up to the end up?

It's not that's not the same the community umum. But I'm sure, if I'm sure, sir, pa. Because if you're the same thing, film, film conspirative, or alien, or like, in Amazon, too, like, Tomorrow War and stuff,

yambung, co. Yeah, yeah, that's, so. So, yeah, it's, so. So, like, bahas my way, is, for the way, for the way,

for the way, to look like, climate change it's really, the impact of domino, so that's trigger a

certain, so that's the market it really, it's really, yeah, I'm going to be a

electric just, just like, I'm going to see, this energy in apartment this, like,

like grade-a, B, C, and, and, so, so, from the demand of the manned it's really butto storyteller

because, not have been been able to be able to be, man, but then, again, it, it's, it's the same, and then, that, but, yeah, that, I mean, that. I'm sorry.

I, I'm just, I'm not, I was, if I was, that, if you're looking at glass, it's not pern't-setang-possom. And, And maybe I think that's the the problem-upant-a-climb,

is a topic or subject that's not not yet, what we're trying, if we're for politicians, or policy-makers, to be able to

make the issue this, it's kind of actually, it's still a lot. This, this, not,

not to make generalizeer, but, it's observation umum. And even in the Nogamajun, if I look at the people, the policy of their, not nimbun,

with what they're going to do with what that's because they're not not memami. Now, I'm seeing that, the perubaniclim, this can be from civil society. Yeah, right? Eventually, this is going to

to policy-making and to political process. But how we're, Because we as a civil society, can't make up the pola our thinking our own-of-sifat-sifat and sifat-consumptive, become regenerative. Yeah, right?

How we can be runjack from sifat and sikap that consumptive and to be as a workah? So, we'll give us the task-wap to the planet our linguan our, our human beings, but the end of the end up,

this is the political ownership. And how, so, maybe, some of the millennial, but all of Z, it's more to take ownership about issue this. Without political ownership,

this will not be able to be able. I'm not. I agree. I'm, because of it's, because of the same, because I'm going to be the key of it, is that's the kind of the case of the because when it's, when it's the fact that the world in the

and the impact of the this, they're going to be a putusant with sadar, but to be sadder in Indonesia it, it's, it's, but, at the end of the way we're realistic, because the money is So that's, is that's has got a lot, manrasy Z, is that really

generation Z, is it, oh, okay, great, man, really, that's really, they're really sadder, like, like, like, like, like, skincare or not, just, buttoe, like, just, and, you're, because sustainable fashion, too,

is now, right, that's trend, but, they're, there's a good, But they can't have money, if they're not much, I'm sure they're going to buy trend-treen to that's as well as their advocation of their. But, can, for them become advocate like that, same-a-generation Z, can,

they're just as much, they're not going to be able to be able to be. Or, who's going to start-up, after they're thinking how much, and everything like that. to get in the investor in Indonesia is too, right, how much, that, you know, pa, actually, like,

therebentur, that, but the other, if the other, the better than, the community that's harmony, he's butch what,

and then, they're going to be from, not there, that's, as, what, yeah, as,

as a, yeah, they can, they can't, and, so all the same, and, so,

there, they're, there, the, really, really, really, we're really, this, the people who are in fact that who are called

who are called but if you're like, if I'm a sample better, if I'm going to with the generation Z,

if I'm know, you know, there's, there's a part of, yeah. This, this,

this is this urgency, ownership taking you, so urgen what. I'm that's about 4.6 million that's a lot of 4,600 gigatone, and it's 7,000 gigaton, it's termed only in the tempo 170-tawn,

in contact 4.6 million years. And, every time we emissing we're going to be 60 gigaton carbon. And if I think, if I've got, the, that's the 2,000 to 3,000, gigatone. So we just about 50-a-old, right? Now, if I'm still 18, I'm thinking, no, I'm just

I can't even be able to be up until 6. How this solution? Now, maybe it's able to be mowbha, not only perilaku or guy of life, but for, to be able to scale, I'm going to politicize, because it's not yet

it's not even though, that's political ownership taking. And we're not can be reser from consumerism to regenerationism. We're not can't be geser from consumption to citizenship if not there political ownership taking. How much, how to do you know, to make up to make up the world to get more than livingcungung, more than long, in the time of the long.

Yeah, right? This, this, this, this is the way. Benar, Benar, sir. Bucan, how we picket we're using sedent that's not plastic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bettough, right, right. Yeah, right. I'm like, I'm scared. Taked, I'm gonna'gantor just,

it's just like metaphor. Metaphoria, too, we're just, pa, we're taking a example what has been in Yellowstone National Park. Now, okay. So, there, there's been, had there's it's there's there's there's been there's abetat aramis for serigala.

There's been there, thereorgalanga gala there's tiburagalain's too illang, not there's there, not there's been bludak. Now, padalore, can't be able to beaeramundar, it's room from Serigala, there bison, there bifers, there burrung, there russain, there russain. Now, after the sriagalani, it, illang, the predator atas. Yeah, but, but even though, but rusasiness, it's just so much, like, run-upinged, so,

really, like, tanaman, rumput, the rumpurroup, is all. So, that's all right, it's all right, the impact that's to where, the damper, yeah, what, yeah, bas-in-osia, brang, yeah, who's the mascot of MIT,

who, who, who, who, really, well, ben-asystem engineer, it's, he can't be care, yeah, he's just, can't be able to have to beaughan. Abisahed, then, then, then it's just to usag again. Rusanne, right? Rousa, but then, yeah, just because Rusanne, you know,

Bifernet, not what's up and a-a-pain, butthal, he's an engineer-na. Padal, he's under-a-counterer, like, now, and then-a-usage-a-annibal-a-old, khali-jad just butted, there's just cat. There's sentimentation, d'amana, in many-asystem in the, uh, the sunsuguesk, it's-ikang,

because, right, because of the other, but they're just, but they're just, they're going to be there, no, and then, then, in 1995, the, uh, serigalah's, you know, and again,

reintroduce again, to yellowstone national park, and then, now, and then, there's, there's riga, behavior of the rusa, this, this, so,

it's, so it's, it's not soarangan, yeah, if, All right, it's more tautip, it's more than more than more than more, get more than more than more, he could eat in the people of russain,

so the population russain is to be able to grow. Because it's agaerobut, plant man can't grow again. Biodiversity. Biodiversity. And then, this, sea beaver, brang, luch,

pinter, he can be, he can be a, engineer can be work, he can make dame, and the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, more than more than it, then,

then, then, then, then, after the other, bulimurung the bulim of the back, like, like, like, lagu-sabda-alam, kind. Yeah, that's, like, generation Z, this is not russain, pa, Rousa, this,

I think, in myrination X, pa, russain. Simple. Yeah, just, he just just, he's just, career, aman, so, you know, to have,

you know, how much, where's the world is where it's the way. Like millennial and agency, we have functioned but we can't exist because the ecosystem not even-duking, how much, not-and-and-menducing, that? And they're not Serigalah, yeah? In generation Z.

In the metaphor, in the metaphor, I mean I think there, is there, sirigalani, is what, this? The Rangalani is, you, the people who are the people who are the most of the one of the people that is, Because with the story of the story of it, because of the because of the way, because,

because, no, bo, the hidopredator, there's no, there's not a lot of the ecosystem, it's all that's has been, like in Lion King, Tibba, it's just like in Lion King, Tibati's being vegetarian, not, not, but that, that's not,

the end-u-uh-Undtuk-Undt. Yeah, Raja-U-U-U-UtUtah-Utah Raja-U-U-SAP. Yeah, yeah, like this, like this like Generation Z, millennial, we're all kinds of, we're still trying to part, we're, we're still sensing, we're really, we're sure,

see, singa, bifur, or what, or other, there's a bit, there's some of, and, so much, we're just making, kind, there's being baguagued, maybe he's been agaer, maybe he's been around, maybe he's beener, there who's to be able to bea-mah

to bejaga, there's like gajah, like, but but but but but, but but, but the dominations like now, yeah, same, like the casus of barang-brang that, he's more than-a-bac-a-bac-a-could, not-bisca, pa. He just can't make,

mithet, bertan-hidu. So, in the condition-z-nay-n-n-n-n't-old-n't-old. So, yeah, want to bea-putusan-publican, yeah, ecosystem-hru-sund-up-u-sabre-a-oh, oh, they beaver, or, they're-srigala, like that'serigal, he's naip, because he's going to control, right?

Now, maybe the question I'm like, like, now, if I'm saying, seeing, there's being a lot of russar, but I'm thinking of the amount of russ. This is the anecdote that make comparations

on parisical with Hedgehog. What's that, the language inundasian? Landak, landa. That's the way, but that's right, but that's right,

it's right, he's right, and it's been measenay, but it's going to be the same the way to the way that's the way lander that's just but he, but he, the catamattalanta landa or catamanda kentak or kacemanda korek

I, yeah, yeah. I'm just that the nation building to the narration nation building to the that's where it's every galah. Yeah. Yeah. Intuitive. ...comens, intuition, and everything, is

more than, so that he can mitigate the risk that's more the longer-pankan-pankan. Yeah. Yeah. If the catamattra-na-it, or the way-pand-it,

or parochial, it can't beambung with specialization that, that only, If I'm not so much to mitigate, now this I'm going to be with a book that I've been called, the title of Range, written by David Epstein.

I too already have ever bacharck. Now, it's interesting, where, who can't make sure that's who can't be able to mitigate risk in jangler pangue to mitigate risk in jangue thaningingan who only dimension? Now, this is now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, Now, this is the era that's kind of kind of and to make specialization.

Yeah. Now, this is counter. Bucan it's not that's not, but this is it's just, but this is be imbanging, with generalization, so we can be there serigalas, serigal. I'm just too.

I'm just so much, And we have we have we're noteput this to Bapakabat. Because, back again, we're back, we're just-ah-lucked-law, we're-coulding-cuner.

No, no-gunnation. What, what's-cuh? What, see? Like, now, the people are people, yeah, the child is, life-lark.

So, the life's enough, so, that's-n-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-cichel-mobil, cheap-mobil, quick-n-n-n-n-n-pug-pugia. has had a good, that's the kind of a goodahua,

that's the way of the because of the university that's good with the money that's much, like, acutansi, like, finance, and stuff, and stuff,

from, the way, technique, technique, it's, with the other with the other ,

like, kind of, like, acutansi, you can beaic, So the right, there's been to be used tolacuntan, yeah, even can be AI-can. Yeah, it's not be able to AI-can,

even even if, like, now, doctor just did help, you know, so, byotech, to do that precision diagnostics and all the same like that. Now, back again, like, the process rendering in the idea, it's,

but to multi-input. but to multi-and-and-and-a-and-a-one, and set-a-an-a-half-dir-dhsciate, she's-a-gala, he beaver, he bison, or he burrung, that's-a-oh-tttt, we can't say same. But, can, curiculum school our school,

did generalization, pa, from Saba, Mora, but the plazer matematic-nia, like that. Yeah, can, the plazer matematic-nia, like, that's up, so on-a-a-rata-notes, like, this is diverse, but we're pipelined,

so it's out of the way, yeah, there's not, what, yeah, there's a lot of, like, like, curiculum, it's really, has been wrong back, particularly at least in this, so, like,

indicator-ne-uped-a-buck-a-buck-bac-a-gir-cuitary, good-gur-cissilitati, and, memboskut-a-a-lac-a-laping, He's the way, he's actually specialization the up where, and he can't let's doidering that's on, and he's got to realize how, how to be itchievous. How's how, from interaction, from teamwork, and soft-skill-like-neying. I, too, after a year-air-in-in-a-er-a-er-in-a-er-a-er-er-a-cure how we're

has to make up more about guru. We still have to make up on curriculum and siswa and siswi. But, guru. That's, if I'm learning in Korea Southan, that's given to give us to give you a chance to learn, that they're who lullos top 5% from perguron-tinged. Singapore, 10% to 20% top-n. Now, there's

that's a lot of if someone who's top 20% from the currant he's able to do with a year which is a lot of year but if he's in bottom 20% he's in a year, in a while just can't beaigar a sethsaintopan.

Yeah, if we're in a bitulal of school in zip code that there's a gooder, hockey, but if we're like we're in butchooot, if you're not great, apollo 5%, Seless. Now, this, in Korea,

if people are doing guru, two things are the same, one, compensationship is laic again. He's been given to do Amazon, he'd be given to dolead in a guru, he'd be given to work in bank investations that's great, he'd mainly to be guru,

because the payerance is okay. And then, the status social is very much. He's up to put up. That's how, so, so, the citra guru

in Indonesia, like this. And I, I'm going to look justru, I'm, I'm not to remember, that's

class three S-D. Yeah, right? And, and, guru, I'm from music, I was in the So, I'm not just I'm not uphungan of them all right?

And I can't make sure that we're making up to pay a diversity. It's just to be pastiked only in each class. It's a guru that's great. He can't do you guyser and give inspiration that's great-biasa to, or 100 people in class or 100 people in class. It's it's put on at every tip of 500 cabupaten, in the city, wow, dasat.

Not only diversities that's more like, but if, if I'm in the narrative our people, it's more than more. I'm just too, but I just know the battle necker better with the other maybe the other think social media can't help, but I'm not so, so it's going to, so it's this,

so it's the story. The one is, I'm just really, The role is important is really, really. What I'm saying? What I'm saying? Why, yeah, there's idea, good, guru pahawant,

TANPaths. It's kind of wrong. Like, why the idea is it? Without Tanda jasa, what I mean, they're justa-bara-basket-banked. That's one. That's the, that. Like that's like that's

really, I agree with that's really good if you're really, but I'm not yet yet if you're not sure, but not true, sir. Okay. So, because, that's... Yeah, right.

The matter, sir, pa. The thing, man, you know, because, what, yeah, because, what, yeah, I used, I was the guru korean, yeah? When I was, there, there was a guru physical, I was, I was,

So when I'm down the demotivation, I'm going to be able to be able to fission, can, it's true, can. Permanah, shock, but not, abysh, it, it, man, but, but, because the guru's, what, yeah, he, not,

but he's, but he's inspirations. He's been inspirations, like, he's challenged. Yeah, he, too, and he's challenged and, and, to make sense. That's, it's a lot of curiosity. Yeah. Well, what's in our part of our people,

not formulations. But so, but true. But so, but also, so, with the way that non-physicay-n't-khaned, and not-chilin, not-a-pacet and stuff, to make sure, so-you-as, yeah, what's, so. So, after-bos, besie, it's not-nilater,

but, but, but, you, but, you mean, like, guru-kren, is when, the murid-in-it-it-in-gare-old, he can, he can't do you can't do you can't do you can't do you can't, he can't look at the world this with full hope, not he's about it's like that's great. And I'm sure in Indonesia

is really, many people are great, but it's really, he's not recognition with good, so, sir, pa, to make make uprisi for, to make upresiatesi more for gurus who are great, you know, guru-inspirative, that's, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, justa, that's hard, because in the time, there's right, there's right, there's got to watch YouTube, there's TikTok, there's whatever, there's all the same

inspiration from influencer, if, if, if, if, noise, this, not-a-a-da, the kids, too, can't always saling-nobrol, yeah, like, wow, I did gaijari-n, me, with guru-visica, this. I'm getting ready, you.

Or, I'm going to say, yeah, came-a-comas-gut-git-it-git-gut-a-mach-cum. Can, it's-nullar, yeah? then'tar, like, like, like, like, oh, asic, me, in, bimble, this, guru's all the same, all the same, she's all right, much, he'd, he'd beameda, right, right.

Now, now, now, now, there's, there's been, but, although, it's really, like, like, jaman film cartoon, Japan, Jamp, Jamban, yeah, like, I mean, to, Mastor, to, ampani-a-punned, to, you, can,

to learn, that, that, that, that, israxing, in-tank, so, so, I'm... ...enaric, I'm going to go-hapingaping, when I'm going to do that, that's like that,

that's going to bring up to or make uphacken, for the importance of our better-pennedican, and with quality. Yeah, I always mending-kind of our countries and the other than the other than the where, from the, or more,

or more of the more than the more than taking about the more than I'm going to be able to in the I'm going to try to back again to emoterape yeah in microbiome this can if I'm

this, this, bacteria this is very If we look at Gat our 70% is about bacteria and that's almost almost very much more than to be able to or to the cells that's

not-sehate or virus that's not the one of the last the last I read is Akramansia in Junofolia which, that's it could

that could that can't can't even though, can't even if you can't even you, that, in the way that's how to it's really in the,

or penitawing this so we're going to be more people can't get cancer and to the and to be sure it will be sure will be more

much. Well, this is just way very much with mysathex, we're talking about we're talking about it's been a lotobion, but it's. Now, this is actually what is what you're going to be the body of human beings modern. This is biosycees, yeah, miryp, like in National Park Adi, but if at least, if we're

about it, ifaburred, it's like a sungai, that's it bitableness, and stuff, that Tiber, butecca, because biferns, because briborna not-a-shras, because not-a-sri-gala and the number-can-ru-sha, because a-geny, because the bioptery that's been a functioning-masing. If you're also, this researches-basketing, Pai, but what's got to beckoned, the indication is, he really, beeran in-dened in-le-le-man-laping-laping lip-usus. Because if lapisan usususin-cac-larses-in-cac-lid-hid-hocity-dusdus.

Diversity so many. diversity is bigang, and he's like pathogen non-patogen that's imbonged, not pathogen that's important, you know, immunities the spectrums

can be complex. Now, because more complex, everyone has done the problem it, then it's, that,

they're menourin get down. For example, like, bacteria that, it, he, do associational with,

if, if, if, they're less than to inflammatory bowel disease, obesity, and, but like that,

diversity is just it's just a new indication it's more than than the other than the disease the same thing that's important. So, again, we have to do-in-emahman that manusia is single-spacious

that's the most part of the fact is we're holobion and we're with the lingu-an, we're over-lis. Yeah. We get what you give. Yeah. Like that.

So, this really, really, it's really, really, and why, Indonesia that has, I think I'm imping this, because, back again, we're in the different species, too, like,

go to underestimate, want to be under-as-dustin. Mawutte, people, people are also better, I mean, from Achex, from Papua, just,

I'm not-pestimate, ma'amacres. And we really have to monoeuvian this to seantara before we're using to surerunuchamping. Because with like this, we're more able to be able to beaamay with the same people Indonesia. With we can't understand holobean,

we can't be madang the other than our own mathearten, not can't. They're more than we're, we're they're dewy, they're they're up, they're gonna'amble what? And we're, one, we can be able to beamed, right, right, right, right, you know, good, so.

The other, the other, what, you know, it's the impact that's the way that's important, the time, and, like, yeah, like, yeah, in the Newark, yeah, come,

down, so, ma'am, just, ma'am, just, man, You know, like, that's about, that's about how, oh, man, it's about variation and seimbang.

It's, it's not bad, pa. It's just because not disragamined. Imagine, you know, it's justragan, it's not going to

import, import, import, import, that. So, that's every person that has been varari, that's all the

course of busantara, we're trying, with the So it's important. And why, it's important to mapping, dimetting, like, interaction between microbiome

and geneticing, how, so that we're getting, we're getting, we're getting, like, oh, the badan say, this is, or the dehuman-a-a-a-i-a-i-s?

This is in a condition symbiosis or dysbiosis. If it's, effect can't get to what, then, what, what is reintroduce again? Now,

that's, like, collection of the multiboyam for usantara to be worthed, pa. It's really good, parloria, parloria. Because from, from there's problem for pandemic, pandemic the next year, what other than the pandemic antibiotics resistant bacteria,

like that. So, this, it's, it's important. So we have to holo-bion. Concretely, for people-aw-aw-am? Compact, What's what? So, if it's a solution modern, yeah. So, because bacteria, bacteria in the body,

it's more okay, the more we can be sure. Combination prebiotic, probiotic, postbiotic. And three components, there are the solution modernly, like, you know, like, minimum capsules, capsule, and things.

There's also the natural. The natural, what? Yeah, all the food. Yeah, all the food. Like in tomato, tomato, tomato that, probiotic is complete, because of the same. Mankymanent-mecana-segare, it's even good for us. And then, if you're notheritin'boh-biotic-tambhan,

usually there's a lot of shan-cern-kind. Now, now, I'm not sure that's natural. I can't say that's leek, because there's bribingia, but I also can't say that it's good for everyone. Because, again, every other profile in the ususus is different. If I'm in the cariburansilus,

I mean, co-boh-bacilus, yeah, okay, even but if you're not puto-butthus, or, it's been a bigotibusia, it's justia, it's just biosellis, yeah, there's, maybe, it's hard, so, pa,

so, like, so, we can't, we can't say, oh, this one solution that's all the person person, that's a combination, but that's combination, combination of personalized product. So, because it's kind of trending is kind of,

like, diagnostic, it's self-diagnostic. We're really, better paham. So, we're the same thing the DNA-neuronging how, from the way, from the way to be able to be how, what can be able to beer, what can be able, And this is the different is universal index that's really, what, yeah, index this is made game between, like,

the company, assurances, and the government so, yeah, yeah, yeah, because, right, because, I know, like, this, I'm just like, I think, in Jakarta, microbiome my microbiome, disbiosis, because it's pollution, because of logam, berat, pencemaran,

and, and, like, like that's like, I've been clean eating, but but still just dysbiosis. Apocas I have to buyer premiums that's mahal because this is the lingquine, that's aggall demystain? Beda don't, risk of microbiome dysbiosis, because of the environment in Malang, and Jakarta, bad, right?

Now, who who has to buyer? Oh. I, or product, product provider, and, and, like, and, with the index that we can get this, Like this, this is like to be fair game, sir. I mean, it's just as well.

But is, if you're not. But if you're not going to price risk. Oh, price risk? No, no, but it's,

it's kind of murgubourable, data not much, that's that's much, that's, that's, it's the future,

like that. Manarick. Application AI is AI how in the AI in the in the way ofobium or or whatever, is there? There, is, there, there, there, there,

there, there, that's, there, there, like, in Nusatik, we also, we've made AI, it's called Maxwell, that's like that. So, just, like, Like, like, like, oh, there AI, all right. But how they're going to do you,

if data's not much, if you're not diverse, and so much. Now, the thing is, you know, to gumpuling data, like, Indonesia, that's being able to,

with sampling. Yeah, what we're doing. Yeah, that we're doing, that's PR. PR's there, that's, it's, it's,

the, uh, AI, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, It's... Gaping data now. And we're climate change, again, later in front of pandemic because drug-resistant bacteria, if database not we're not from now,

yeah... We've already talked to be a topic, I'm going to talk to... Maybe it's not relevant, not yamble, but... Uh-huh, the end-uguinginging is, that's the gusenjangangue.

If this, if I've got COVID-webucking, this isleasing the deceleration of the economy. The more deceleration is, it's more difficult to redistribusaystribusiscihattraan. If it's more difficult to redistribusity the ratio this is up. It's been like.

And deseration per-economyan or pertumbuant economy, maybe exposure we're one, two years, minimum. Pandangana, how about the casegown that's going to be seengarten? Dikarna can be a bit of a variable, one of the one of the COVID, yeah, right, that's making sure, to redistributioning the chastrichter.

The first, I see, I'm going to look like dysbiosis today, sir. All right to dysbiosis. So, all the disbiosis. So that's the samejong-bucked, right? Yeah, he's been trying. He's not, even though, even though, even though, so,

so, so many people are the same thing, so much, evening gayser to the ecosystem economy, that, where, really, really, it's really, it's polarization, that,

the, not-mampu-mampu-b-b-b-a-mamp-a-mamp-gut, not-map-a-map-gut, not there, no-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-lang, that. Now, If I'm the question is, the gala again, like,

where's the way, right, this can, really have been able to have been able to control, you, until, the game that's level again. What,

what, kind of, kind of, what else, yeah, same, this, if,

if, if I'm going to about, uh, distribution, redistribution, that, um,

the, What I'm not what I'm like what I'm more than what I'm getting here, like that. But you know, but to do you want to make up to get a gigaithing and like that. How do you can't? It's a panang, sir. I mean, I'm just being,

but now, now, when we're really, if we're making take extreme, this is there's a lot of, but he's going to be able to live, he wants to pandemic five years, but it's. But there's also, yeah, there's just, I'm not,

I'm not about about about about I'm not only about science with you. But I don't know how much, it's resoundung. Yeah, sir. Science can't just go out of the money. If you're going to be on the economy, can, in the end of the world is full-luss, right?

If I've been a few times I'm going to be reader to the PDD, it's still in 50% in Indonesia. Sedangan ratio of money in the country and maju , in Singapore, it's 125% to the other.

If you're going to talk about for the fulis has to make money for the value of the ability, after that, the production. Yeah, this is a systemic, is to be able to bea-badars, and if the money be redarerable, that it can be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to

from out, the foreign direct investment. Or, and the other, mutang from out, mutang from it from it from it from it's only. Just to be it either this or it or combination, the two-douin.

Now, this, is, in the world, in the country, maju, the money, this, is more, big, liquidity, there's $100 trillion dollar,

M2, U.M2 is, UMM2 is the world in the per-economy in the per-economy in the government-majou. Yeah, Bo, some of that, it's come, but this, but it's not, what, what, kind of, if, if, I think,

I think, it's, it's, but, but, there's time-like. If I see, this, omnibus, this design-in-in-a-inded, to make indahed-regal regulation agar sectors'aqaic, it's more of the open.

Asing, it's too, if sector-sector-execor economy, to be more there a good sign. That's a good sign that, it's a good sign, that we've done to reconstructs the cranks or e-clim investation with omnibus,

yeah, yeah, yeah, or the way up again, I don't know, we're just but, but it's the kind of

because it's because it's not, we're like we're atu with the if we're we need,

we have to we needem yeah, so, so, people, to be convenient store, buy

instant, buy bread, and everything, and shu-souk, people can't get to the fabric again, and he'llas, but this is a

there's a betterbatass because it's because it's the demand side and this is the supply side. But it's structural

it's structural it's to to make make economy. Now, if we talk about in context, how we can't look more russarer than the regalanya, right?

Right, right, from the catamata biodiversity, from the catamata ecosystem. But from the economy, actually, we can use metaphor that same. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right? But if,

I'm the most structural, is how we can but buhawk more backer more than and teilogyn limited, back again with science and technology I mean, if you're looking at from, kacemata, how,

think by the e-esioling, for example, if in the ecosystem, I'd goate to investor like burrung, purrung, sir. They're on the task I'm gonna, yeah,ự, kind, from where it's inbary to barring, you know, from where it's about it, UNVAN, you know, that'ser's like that'serun-bun-bun-dhs, because, yeah, how if the ecosystem that's rusk,

they also think, like, I'm gonna'niz in there, no more than that's tumbled. Right, that's, because, like, technology, is aming about, with investors, because technology, is, even, to make upuribank, like the bank-bering wifers, like, but, but,

I'm not, why investor why, the indusoryeathe, in Indonesia, how, how, like, look, about about about about the project dammedy only manned, pa. Same, man, barang, even making project engineering

just mankrak. Same, right. In here, can, too, like, that's, how we're ready, so. So, I mean,

I think, so, the money, it, will come, if it's, if, even,

in the, the, there, there, there's riguel, one, two, got,

the, the russain, the, the biferns, the biferns, can be able because of work and stuff, make them damn and

everything else, so that the other people can be asthustil, but there's burskna there's goth, so yeah, so, yeah, we're going, we're saying, we're doing,

that's not, that's but, but... But, okay, yeah. Cob, yeah. Cobah, we're optimist, yeah, right? Yeah, right.

Oh, I'm optimistic, pa. I'm optimistic, pa. Amin. But, optimism is to what?

The last we've got about interesting, but I think about the samepulant now is better or even even to amplification

that. Yeah, I see, now, but, but, but, but,

I'm still optimistic, but I'm still still optimistic, but I'm still time of the time. Like, like, the cyclose politic, there's in 2004, there in 2009, there five years'lige of the next

and all the other things like that. Tadigua, from our own, kind of, like, for things the kind of course.

Right. Like, Perubaniclim, consenangan, inclusion of money. Yeah. Same, maybe this is also

the other people of the young He's likeer, he's abelianned the people, Nantamilch, too, Dicholns, too, protested and all the same kind of but, actually, it's still at a half,

he, making sense of this word, like, yeah. He's testing, getting, got-in info that diverse, to find inspiration in many-mana, that's not, that's atop that,

that's nirap. Now, but that, that, that, too, 10 years if you know-you-belin, not too much than to-der-dendor-than-a-old because they're in-as-as-a-stage to life next year,

which is to challenge self-dier and make-macharine. Bany, like, entrepreneur that, I, I, I'm sorry, or like, I have a son-a-oldeer, he's a person who's-ta-tambach-a-tombed, but, though, before me, consultant-top, that,

that, yeah, and, you know, and, he's been-sach-mach-a-old, They're really, they're really, and they're actually making make-you-can. They're like to be, because, because it's not, because it's about the government, yeah? So, right, yeah, just, like, make what, yeah, make zone-naman-send-send-named, there's-one-nagreland, there-in-le-cash-a-old, and everything, really-beenar action. Maybe make hydroponic, maybe make-tambach,

making-a-up, and everything, but full-feeling, for them. But at the same the same time, after the same is the same as far as far as now, there's the name of ecosystem, there's name of regulation, yeah, in the endok-me-un-un-un-y-ach-you-n. This is like to belajure, Pa.

So I'm sure if I'm going toerpain like many ofossock muda that really be a good-resadern political with the intention that's to move to politics, but in 2009, they're they're who are really memorandum of their own,

who really look at realita, to the area, and everything like that, they're going to be able. They're going to be able. They're like to find out of jathing, or rusa or beaver, like that. So, 2012, 19, I'm optimistic, I'm optimistic, ma'am.

I'm very, sir. I, too, in the process of politics, it's a encouragement of talent in a systematic, yeah, right? Because I think we're back to the topic of the way,

that's democracy. Democracy is, how, system, it, can, democratization, talenta. If we look, talenta, talented in Indonesia,

now that's not to the world, yeah, right? There are some sectors that ogah, talenta, that's good, that's just to want to be able to be a few sectors. I think, this, they want to move to all the sector. Not private enterprise, not to social enterprise,

or to public enterprise. Public enterprise that's butchalent, yeah, right, to the talenta talenta that brilliant, so that they can't make upangun the banksa. Yeah, right? Now, I think it will be more than it, not it's not, but I'll be able to be,

I think, I'll be able to be in the future. Now, it's probably with issues, issue, issue, which is the fact-in-cource, not appetizer, if you're a goodtimore he's illam to rubyclim. And he tibba tibbut nettrum, like to be

laban, or like to d'idur, or like to be a friend's, or anglota of the cargaghani, want, I have to be I have to take position politic so that the society loas, want to go out, you know,

right? Now, if you're going to process politic like that, that's because he's because of crusader. Not to refocation. Yeah, right? That's great, though, process politic. I'm sorry, I'm going to commentarine it. I'm going to say, I'm going to.

I'm going to, sir. Yeah, sir. So, this, today's not there's no-in-in-law, to talk politic, But we're going to be more macro. Yeah, but, so, I'm going to, I'm sure, like, like, the kinginanity, there's, there's in many hearts,

the kids'bundah, it, but, can, back, they're pragmatism. Pragmatism is, because signal-signal that's-ignal that's-knap. Maybe, the first is, no-dut-a-dut-lid-n't-a-kha-a-tac-a-tac-a-tac-cuh-cuechew-a-cuh-cuh-cuechew-cuh-cure-cuh.

where, it's really, more than it's more than it's more than it, more than it's more than the other. But there's the other, pa, is it, pa. Is it a lot more than that? This is a signal that, I don't know, I actually not know, yeah, ispacar protest,

that's right now, amman or not. But signal, many people, can, from the obroa and people, that are, oh, no, ah, no, a, serm, serm, that, I mean,

because, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see, I know, I know, this is wrong, but I'm not going to, tinkingingesaw, the way, that's right, right, but this real, you know, pa, so, so far, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not safe, because,

yeah, what I'm, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, back, yeah, like, like, Rusa, so, yeah, because there, uh, yeah, so, yeah, yeah, the, so, yeah, the behaviorerer, yeah, Because there's riga where, yeah, yeah, where,

meskipun, even, even, even, even, but he can be able to be carea, like, yeah, yeah, this, like, yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah, so, like, yeah, to make sure the path of it, because, because, yeah,

because, yeah, yeah, yeah, where, uh, yeah, ibarium,

that, like, , di-d-d-a-sac-a-a-sac-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s, so, it, so, and, like, bacteria that, because,

because, if you're even if we're even if it's even if you're just, it's just, to make sure, but because predictive, it's just like, it's like,

it's just, it's gonna, but it's gonna, but, like, what doesn't kill you make you stronger, like, there's resistance, that, right? Exposure.

Yeah, right, creates resistance. Yeah, yeah, kind of like that. Yeah, But that's like, what, with people, because

for protest, it's kind of in Indonesia is a lot, you know, like, in Twitter, like, the protest, that's just,

like, yeah, the account, like, in the country like, in U.S., the sounderer

more diverse. Because in this is itbaratna, if it's the about, if you know, if you're , if you're getting, there

anti-biotic resistance and, and, again, the kunchiness, is, is, we have, we're,

we're, we're, to bea'uadry... soarer. So, what's the way that's the same thing, he abysed drama Korea Netflix that... Crazlending on you?

No, crazlending on you, Pa. Tiber, he's still gonna bea. Oh, gila, Coy, Cora, okay, too, and then, and then, that's just, I'mericant. Because, Korea-U-U-U-Tura, can, how, if, if,

if, if, if, if, he's... If, he's... ...and, you're not... ...that, we're... ...that, we're... ...that... now, disbiosis, where, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, about the diversity, that, that's not, not-samean-emotally not safe to make-out-endaping. In-al-hattie, there, there-bago-a-bago-a-basket. The moral of the story is, we if we're democracy, we have toggis-kanked and tequick-smanet biodiversitas and diversities.

In context of whatever? Right, right, right, right, I'm not, I'm not really like democracy, it's, I mean, it's not, I'm not looking like that. I'm more than,

democratization, it means, we're gonna'est, binaicatungal Ika, where, each, mass, specious, it, he has had to be the right

self-n't, and to bealankan function, it's, really to arras it, to, and it's the, The way, butchungu-yugn-a-tung-I-K-K-K-I-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K, that's really,

want to be bi-gol-gboh-gboh-i-same, that's all, pa. Because, like, now, what, yeah, as it's not-sadar, if, if, don't too democratize, not, what, don't even, not that,

not, that, like, like, the, sound-a-cata-cata, that out of lids, that, There's the noise that, the end up,

but the functioning. This beafering, or the beavering, is not? Or biferns to beavers, more than to beaugh-as-susage, because, like, that. Yeah, I mean, that's as far as, that's as far as,

but, like, and, like, Rousa, and, so-o-souan like SRIGala. It's, pa. So, yeah, so, so, so-sue, function, like, we know what,

we're doingsue-in-in-in-a-cuh-in-a-cuh-lis-a-lis-a-cuh-old. We're-gare-a-old-a-old-old. I'm optimistic. Serigalana's already but we're gonna be more. There's... There's a lot, don't know, don't get a bigot.

Cucup to be able to re-balance the ecosystem. Thank you, thank you, very, thank you, very, so much. Fascinating, as always. Thank you, ma'am. Man, that's Charleney Putri,

founder of Nusannex. Thank you. Ingeen