Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Si Suara Emas Berjiwa Lawas | Endgame ft. Ardhito Pramono (Part 1)

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

Musisi dan pemeran Kale di film NKCTHI dan Story of Kale, Ardhito Pramono punya misi mempopulerkan kembali karya-karya yang sudah banyak dilupakan. Lewat seri Jasmerah buatannya, dia mengaransemen ulang lagu-lagu lawas Indonesia untuk memperkenalkan dimensi lain musik Indonesia kepada generasi sekarang. Ketika warisan budaya yang begitu kaya bertemu dengan kemampuan berinovasi, banyak cerita yang sebenarnya masih bisa kita tuliskan.

Because music is actually is one platform where I can expressy, where I'm going to give the darkest part, the darkest part of Ardito Pramono, the brightest, the sadness part, without I have to say with the words. This is Endgame. Hi, my,

Hi, my friends, we're here we're coming Ardito Pramono, the name that's very known by the people who are great because of the songs that are great, and, at the last, the livear we'll talk about this, and the soon to be released, Kaleh. Dito, thanks, can't come to the acara this.

Thank you so much for having you, I, sir. I, I, uh, I want gali a little about a little bit about the time in Jakarta, in 1995, in the month of May, 22. Right.

Talk about your childhood. How about your childhood? There's things that make you make up you're like now. Actually, I'm from

a community that's very harmonized, can be able My dad's my name of the military. He supplies the military, he supplies the aircraft, what's machine, but he's going to be brought, for more patriotic, like,

kind of, maybe, so it's been quite, so, but not there's a background military? Okay, my father, but I'm not to my father, and then, and I'm not down to my father. Then, I was did didig, with my father. So, so you want, you have to work for that. More than you.

More than a father than the other than you. More than that's more than that. And, Ibu's actually, I'm actually, like, if I'm not sure, if I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm going to rayaing in one complex.

Where is the complex? In my room that's the same, in Duran Sao. And then, then, I mean, if you're just going to be a while you're doing the whole year-a-in, you'll make it just, the other than I made it out of the other.

I called out of the other. Then I made my birthday party alone. No kidding. It was actually pretty fun. With the friends of complex. How are what that? more than 8. Okay.

So, what, innovation is it, that's coming to do, or, you know, a little bit more than creative, or, this, it's just about, it's just, but, but, and, and, and, so,

and then, what, what, then, what, So that, I was in the school in Esed Islamalazar, in Raulamangun at that not even though not even in music. But what unique is, when I was class 6th, sir, Okay, umur 12. Umur 12.

I'm with one guru Bimbel, um, name is Pashikam. He, even gahsatimani, he's even gathers matimata. But I sengad just put on my keyboard in my room at that because I'm going to my friend of my name, I said that when I like music, you have piano, he will play music. Oh, I would love to try music, I would love to learn about music. And that is when I was first I, from a guru Bimble.

I've learned basic chords, C.J.A. Yeah, lago of your music is gay. Because I'm, I'm not going to play in the court that's other. Okay. So, try just the other, but not because this, this, range of vocal. No, no, no. because of the same of the range of C and G,

first and then. So, since that, for the same time for music, come up until S&P. I never learned piano. When I was there, but I was a little traumatized. Why?

I don't go to make a lot of music piano before I was not so on the ballok, that's it's kind of... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, but... Guru's from where, did you?

I'm still not there, yeah, I've got... I've got... ...mitted, look, you know, oh, technique, not that's not that, like,

Warren Buffett, he, used to apply to school business, didot. Wow. Now, it's gigggy-ggy-jari.

Cobra, or, He's more than someone Baffet, who's the manned from the world, but but also, but also, but if you know, if you know, you've got as popular now. But, I'm actually,

I've got a lot of gurus-gour-dhury. Oh, yeah? Talk about it. I'm just and I and my parents amputed to home-schooling because there's a little bit more menackenacted with, with the guru. Ah, that's notal.

Okay. So, from the SMPI, I'm from here from A from A single from A A SMA that I'd get to receive one SMA that I'd like to get into SMA 8, Ma. Okay. Because, from the SMPP I, in 115, can, they're going to go to the other, um, and then I'm 5.9.

Okay. I'm raced the Rue Goura'n't'cococin'n, and the guru-gurin'n't just not-cocococed, and I'm just to not school. Wow. At that time I'm always I'm going to school, I said I said I'm going to three-bunate for three-bunctr, to learn English in there with my son-in-shaehan. This is what?

16. 16? Probably 16. 16. Okay. Okay. Then, then. She's a lovely person.

She's a lovely person, actually. I was going to Jakarta. I started school national post in Bekasi. because I was going to school, I was going to school, I'm going to go to school. In global prestation school, I'd be term. And then,

I think of the lawgaining gila, even from the SMPA not always been number one in the class in the classroom academic, but when I've been able to be

being a murid that good good good good. I'm not bando. I'm notherit mathes as much as I'm so much as I'm going to but there are other who still can't be

unhargay so. So, the other I want to make PR. Every day, there's

there is pretty pretty much too to work to be a time by time with

to beaunted. I'm I'm not sure. But I'm not even though 2.5. Don't worry, no-were. Not even success in the world, IPA, not too, too, too, too, too,

too, too, and there's no correlation. No, no correlation, not for that. Thank you for that. Yeah. And,

IP, when the S. With the success in the end, that, that's, so, Finally, I was my own work. I made it by myself. I even got back.

I even got back to get it by my P.GADC. I even got back to make PR this. At that, at that, at that was at the other class, he said, he had a little

permalucan me, he said, "'Pantas you not na' class. Wow. But at that, I'm not going to go not going to go to class because I'm going to go to school

for school for school in the last English. I'm going to be very much more than I'm I'm going to run to the room of the school. I said to, I'm going to end my mother's here. Because I've got to go to school again, I said. And surprisingly, my mother is very supportive.

He said, if it's as with every mother. Yeah. True. She's spiritually very supportive. From from the first, and I'm in my opinion for I'm coming in the same I'm out of the same I'm at that. And at that, we're going to try homeschooling. Okay.

Where we're going to get to 10th, at 10, 12, in the same time we can use to studio. And I was at that, I was at radio, so that was a DJ. So, there's a group of a track Smbassadour, where we're in a kid to SMA who's to radio to learn to broadcasting.

And I'm one of the one of the home schooling at that, at that, in that. Wow. And so, so, so... At the... Top 40, or jazz? Okay, top 40.

Actually, it was hit maker. So the lago, the British that is here, it's not there's all around, and it's really that's not the not there's no idea, not the other for, so we're not ever learn that

again. And, and the long story short, I decided to be a radio DJ at that, although the How much? I was 19-I-I-N-O.

I was 17, I guess. Okay, 11-11. Then, in radio, I'm not really appreciated, because I like to get to play guitar in the morning, so I'm going to get my salary first my, my way, that. Okay. Did you have been in PWA,

haven't? No, but... Just more money, Cut. And then, then, then, then, then, after later, I'm going to be able to

I'm going to be in the world in Australia at that time. I'm going to learn music, but there's a bit of the not maloc. Yeah. Now, that's I'm heron. You've got to be given

too, through several episodes, to, to, there's hurdle, yeah, right? Anguplea, heardle-not-Balok. Why not get ineptin,

to learn? Nambil just or what, or you thought you could get away with it? I thought I could get away with it. But, still, still be hanty with a chance that. But it's not that, but it's not all, but in Indonesia, who can't be able to read, not baleck.

That, but I have to learn, If it's, you know, for whatever it's worth, if I can give it an artist, pick up on it. Yeah. I'll. Yeah, right. I'll. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We just have not that we're talking about it, that we're telling us from our own from our own from it. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe the upuasan, Baton, yeah, because you can't because you can't know what you can't even know, but you can't even know, oh, I've got to know, go, do you know? Yeah, right? But it's recermined or to illustraising in notation.

That's, if I'm going to say, aqueousan batin that's better, from to be able to know something you've never get to know but you just true confirmation something you've got to know. That's kind of cool. Look at it from that angle.

from that wrangell. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To be... ...and, it's a... ...and something that's not...

...that I'm not... ...that I'm not... ...that music, actually, ...the music, is actually, ...the... ...the one platform, where I can be expressy... ...the... ...the... ...the darkest part...

...the darkest part of Arito Pramono. the brightest, the sadness part, without I still say I'm saying with a lot of words. This I speak with some authority, as a manan musician. You are still... That's not know if, you'll be able to experiment,

if you're going to learn, bach, not ballok, then you mayan the lag Bach, which is completely out of your usual, That's right, that repertoire or what? I don't you will discover something that's really aha moment.

Holy cow. Cool, cool, this, note this, or progressi this, or or this, or what, it's the end up in abat kiskyan with the abat the 21, there's correlations, and that will take you to a new dimension. And that will beaurek, but that's a number of the dimensions,

and spectrum. And that will be able to beaure. And that's I can't just about, but my friends who are still full-time as a musician, that's if they're being bengong or what, while he's playing metal, like rock and roll or jazz, They pick up Chikosky-Pi, they pick up Mozart, then pick up, who's what's just,

shop-pong, or, yeah, show-pung, or, it's, it's, it's, it's, and, not know how, subconsciously, or unconsciously, or unconsciously, that, the new, it's, there, there, So look at it from that angle.

I would. Yeah, right. And not long, now, now, in YouTube, you can't learn bachanaut balog, it's gampang. You don't have to deal with the same teacher. I don't know. Yeah, right.

Now, make ballon, like, to make what, what, to do, all be able to YouTube. Yeah. That's what the musicians to be a lot of it. To be able to be able to be used to be based on references

by ear. So, I'm like to make a song music in 40 and 50-and-something, because, I'm, in my think, at that, the time that's the data that's, that's actually,

because, when, in our own bedroom, we can make a piece of music, right? Yeah. The story, yeah, about the musicis musicians in the 40s-a-old. Okay. Who's what you're like, from Indonesia, from outside, and stuff like.

Many from Indonesia, sir. Okay. Because I'm a person who, a person who's a person who istano, Wow. Okay. It's Sarwubuning. She's a very sweet grandma right now.

I'm very sweet grandma right now. She's very sang in the song Ismail Marzuki that's made for, sorry, not Rita Zahara, that was the Therasanne, at that time, Sabdalam. Wow. Wow. Top.

Top. I was like digging, I'm from the album of The Cisa Pasar Baru, I'm in the newt. This is a year ago? Or is emma? No, no. Curia.

Curia? Okay. Curia, so, so, so, so, so, actually, even, even, traditional jazz New Orleans,

yeah Louis Armstrong, Billy Holiday, it's got really. And then, he's embraced it, to find one a new account YouTube, name's Padede DeCipta, Mas, NAMS1,

so, random, so. So, he is a random, but he's digitalized

from Platt to YouTube, and mostly, the lago of their legend, All right. Sam Simon from there. So, Teresa Zhen, which I said by the same from Bing Salmat.

And, I think I'm music that music that's music that's the most of the most of the most of the most. Do you sense that they're underappreciated now? No. Yeah. Exactly. And I don't know why, sir.

Or maybe, because of too-jave. Underappreciated, not only as a artistic, but maybe, it's actually, right? Right. Right, right, but, you know,

but, yeah, legend-legend-legend, like they're, I don't know, in the commercial, they've been about, from the

intellectual property, right, I mean, I mean, I'm not one of them, I mean it's almost in 50-towns, and many people are now that's going to be able to get to where, because no one of the copyrights, right. But, now I'm just optimistic, because the pipa-pipa-bap-bap-bara-up like YouTube, Spotify, or Anchor, or Apple, that's, they're quite looking for

to beaumatite intellectual property, and structure, right? Yeah, can if you're there's... if you're just, I don't know how it's been to channel of who's what, that, not know how YouTube, to have algorithm

to you, to notifications you, and they're also, that you have got you have you have to get what's worth cent, how music, how much music of the legenda to be able to be able to be able to bepah the pipa that are new, like YouTube and other. And I think you can play a big role to popular- or re-populair-pupilers,

have you ever thought about doing covers? I actually did. I made this program on my YouTube channel. Name is Jaze Mera, Pat. Wow. Sorry, I missed that. I'm sorry, I missed that. I'm going to cover cover it,

I'm rearranged, but not that's very far from the piano the song that's been left. Like, like, just I've covered the song Oslan Hussein, sir, the title Ombaksamudra.

I got a story from a friend. He said, he said, the song of heart of the Thacket Indonesia at that time it, when he was being in Gungkarno, out of the world. And he metaphora, metaphoria, he said, Ombak Samudra.

And I made cover there, and in the backangang there, I'll give a little but like a la RRI, like that's like. And it's a little cultish, see, who like, at least I got some... Man, your cult is big. Thank you.

The other, that's about, 17, 18, 18, jute. That's not a cult, man. That's a nation. Bedea, sir, what's the other than Bitterloff, and who's the movement I. But you can geting. You believe in that? You believe in that.

And I think that's probably with cross over. Yeah, right? I think you can play a big part to gering them who'd like to like 925K, better love, ke, and, like, and, like, that's going to giring to what, yeah, the example, like John Mayer, he wants to play a lago what,

but, he took to Wyoming, uh, to Montana, he'd be recording country. And then the cross-indahed-bate. And that's not-to-gimannes, and the intersection of the two genres that just to meleborking. Not only the rapporteur of your, but the audience-siness,

and cult- or cult-n-or-cult or community. Yeah, right? Now, now, followership is how about, For the YouTube channel that's the other music of the other, that's cover from the other than the other. So, actually, it's from me, so, it's not there's other people or other.

Or, or, or, or, so, because I'm, I'm like with a song that I've discovered. And I've made production of the day and I've made video clip it as a certain that, that, that, you're just, phone only at least I can show my community about my old song that I just found.

Banyakened? Banyakened. Yeah, right. What's been over? Now, the last I cover the song Rudy Rusadi. That's who, who's one who's almost. Wow. Wow.

Soot, who can get, actually, who's who's what, like what, like what, like, many people who are thank-a-bye after,

if I see there are some where you, if you're if you're screw it. Screw it. And

your parents you always support. Yeah, and that, if I mean, that's good. The rebel in you, if in the system,

if in school, ke, or in communities or what, that's not did-dook by the room. That's a bahia. Then you become a runaway. Yeah, right. But you have not become a runaway.

And that, if, I think, that's what I'm going to you, that's, you want to just talk a little bit more, about how that it's progression, so that's got to go to college,

because you're homeschooling, and then not going to learn to not ballok, then, then, then, then, how... ...and then, ...sumphemy ...sumphemy until,

...and then I'm going to ...theircina... ...theircina... ...theirond of the ...broadcasting and music. ...and then I... ...theirphoned campus at that ...I actually,

I actually like music, but I can't note ballok. I like... This is at JMC. At Sydney. In JNC. And I'm actually, but I can't be phicic. So what should I do?

I think I should take film then. Because film, sound music, can, still be able to insinambungan. And I also also with musicians from the same of the film of the same that's the idolat my until now.

And, and I took film in college. And then, it's turned to film, it also can gavung can't from the script that to be a lyric. That's what happened in 9-to-5, actually. I've had had a pen-to-five

and I just couldn't get it out from my mind. That's that, you know, ma. And, and then, so, it's a lago, so the film's very big-and-a-five, so the film's very big-and-a-thing-you-look-the-desk. But, in that video, you looked like you were enjoying it, you know, being behind the desk. But I can't see you can't get you can

be medmati, you're in the back of meja. Yeah, right? Yeah, there, there part like that's a paradoxical. There, there part that, ma. There's... Because I've done in the... ...theidacted in the entertainment, too.

Some MCN YouTube company. And I'm being creative. Because I'm thinking, like to make-miky and... ...succa be innovation. Creative thinking. And... ...pad that, both I said,

you can music, you can't music department just. Oh, there's that I think that's not just to from music. So, I think I was doing part-time between music as a singer and as a music director in my ex-company. And then, then, how was the same?

Lose at Sydney? Lurgymc Academy. I think I was 19. It was a diploma. Diploma. Okay. School, two, three-treat-tawn. Two-ta-ta-tthree-tawn.

Two years. You're all right now, that's about that year. I'm going to say that. I'm back to Jakarta, I'm working in the company that. And, after that, I try to, okay, I have to be full-timeization. No, there's distraction again from other than other than I placed my heart.

I placed my heart in New York. I placed my heart in San Francisco. I love my heart. I love my heart. So, I was there, I was being in the same of the same time, I got to try R&B, after school,

because trend in Sydney, R&B, electronic music, in 2014, when back, back, there's a friend who, there's a man that Actually, you like Kornra, you like Louis Am Strong, Tom Waits.

You like more than more cunuch, than kind of contemporary. Yeah. You're a classic. Yeah. So there's something actually in Boubley's song. Like... A got a contemporary?

Yeah. And mixing mastering is too pop, I think, because there's David Foster in the back. Yeah, okay, okay. Foster, can, he's very concemporar-can. Yeah. Although background classic and everything, it's quite, like.

Yeah. I was I'm going to to go to the genre that's really, from the old I've taken, unconsciously. Okay. And then?

Then, So, after now, uh, finally, in the way just, although it's not the technique, but I kind of enjoyed it. I kind of enjoyed it.

Now, will be it not the kind of, genre this? Or genre that you may in, the,

will be it's like that, but it's going to be it right? It's like it. Okay. Even though... Whalopun, you're bestok, bachanot-ballok, then the dosa,

playing the lagu of the debussy, then, then, to make, to make, a bit, cross to the place to the place.

Wow, that will be be, that. That will be. It would root for that. It will be. Because, I think I'm like history of music,

even though I'm often I'm having from people who are from students who are at college. You think about Debussy? He's really with Gamalan, that's great. That's great. And I also,

I also, podcast, Agita, with you, man. This show is about you, man. But it's like, wow, gila, and I'm going to ruseing Yeah. Yeah.

Then, I was looking at the Oxford music. Trenate, in there, even though I'm not so I'm not so I think I would go for that in the traditional music in Indonesia. Are you sort of on a mission of, what, yeah, rehabilitati or popularing ulang of the same,

yeah? Yeah, of course. Yeah, right? Yeah. Not musing musk of from 40-an in Indonesia, like, in the years,

in America, or in where, even, even, even, even, Gamelan, though. And I never

had come with my my, I got to come about real. Because from there, maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe I'm playing um,

to make the new generation music that's music that's been un-drewed-during because there's many, I'm about the musicians of 80-a-tenth-a-tenth-a-tment

about it, they choose to not talk about it, and I don't know why. Or they're not not know. Probably. Yeah, most likely. Yeah, right.

And what's the other than what they're probably just about it's just about it. I'm not even to say, name, this is endgame. The episode Endgame ... From the penguanglement

like that I've learned Baja many, if it's most likely everybody loves my work and music. But they don't really care about my thoughts. Thanks.