Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono: Tanda Engkau Belum Siap Memimpin

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

Memimpin bukanlah jalan semua orang. Bukan pula jalan yang mudah. Butuh ketangguhan untuk melalui panjangnya pengembaraan; butuh ketegaran tuk jalani sepinya perjalanan; serta mesti awas dan cerdik ka...la menyusuri jalur-jalur berbatu nan terjal. Bagaimana seorang pemimpin harus melewatinya? Bekal apa yang harus dibawa? ‘Endgame 200th Episode Special’ mempersembahkan Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. Pada kesempatan yang amat langka ini, kita diajak untuk turut berkelana dalam petualangan kepemimpinan beliau sebagai kepala negara. Percakapan ini mengungkap bagaimana seorang SBY dibentuk, cara beliau bernavigasi pada masa-masa genting, serta peran Almh. Ibu Ani Yudhoyono dalam kehidupan beliau. Pak SBY juga membubuhkan pesan-pesan kebijaksanaan bagi pemuda Indonesia dan pemimpin bangsa generasi mendatang demi masa depan bangsa yang lebih baik. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #SusiloBambangYudhoyono ------------------ Direkam 14 September 2024 dalam konferensi terbesar siniar kami, Endgame Town Hall. ------------------ Gabung Langganan Channel Endgame agar kami dapat terus memberikan konten yang berkualitas: https://sgpp.me/becomemember ------------------ Jelajahi dan diskusikan lebih lanjut episode ini di https://endgame.id/ ------------------ Untuk ajakan kolaborasi dan kerja sama, hubungi kami di sini: https://sgpp.me/contactus

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Starting point is 00:00:05 If capitalism, not sensitive to the humiskinan. The economy of the extreme, not even though, but we're not only moral, the government is partangu-jave. Don't bea-olat-o-o-tubiasa. Not-biasa, the government has to do a peran
Starting point is 00:00:32 part, not too-bearing, not too many. Just right. And the people-impean has been If you can't be able to be able to be able to bempin'aminesia. I trust you all. I trust you all.
Starting point is 00:01:21 The Percion of Siti Tertitaph, five years that is the greatest loss in my life. It's not the same way. Mr. This is a good for ushap. This is a lot of the people who want to hear the perforan from Bapa. We're going to
Starting point is 00:02:05 the unsure the body Bapa. Bapa melewati the military and tell you to
Starting point is 00:02:14 tell you to how the the philosophy BAPA and how that how that's the Pemimping with the Pemimpinca. Mungo.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Bungita, before I'm in response, I'm going to say thank you, and what else in front of us, this is the future of our. As a man, T-Tip, Indonesia. Because, inshallah, Indonesia will be strong nations. at the same now
Starting point is 00:02:52 will be developed country do you're up and people and all contributors for Indonesia to the place that. I trust you all. Good,
Starting point is 00:03:09 Bung-Gitah I'm from Kota Kooten, Pachitan, when that, the area that's very miscar, the back-lawful-a-N-I,
Starting point is 00:03:24 with economy that's-past-pasan, but not not hang hang-hallangy I'm trying to bemimpie. Al-hmmillah, I'm into the military, even in the Academy
Starting point is 00:03:38 Militir, barang-a-lety that that's just learn learning the military, tactic and technique and that's up-itemps, but it's about but it's about
Starting point is 00:03:54 the same-calon-calon-combing in the dunia military-al-al-oan-oil-aul-aul-sale who have leadership, who has managerial-scale, and, this is important and it's important, it's in the part of my of my life,
Starting point is 00:04:11 how much however-a-tenth-aun, I've been around in military, from the academy military, make I'm actually bettombed,
Starting point is 00:04:22 didempa, did-tugasy, to be projurit, and who can't beeruerre, and who, there, and
Starting point is 00:04:32 the line-nil-in-lid-er-juritan I think, Weonged weonged togast, a duty first, a duty first, a country first, not evened not evened that
Starting point is 00:04:48 because of it because, the mentality pantang-mangerer more better back, pull-n-nama from the
Starting point is 00:04:59 gagged in medan-tugas it, It's just to make up, I'm going to do my best, I can't do my best, it's just, it's just but for me, for me,
Starting point is 00:05:17 mission's accomplishment, that's the important. So, there are values, there behavior, there's a way, and also mentality, a person prajured, that's a lot of the military,
Starting point is 00:05:32 that's a lot of the same for the United States for the United States. For 10 years, Bapha, you've been a lot of people that's a sullid, and, as long as I'm being president, for 10 years,
Starting point is 00:05:54 the decisions that you have made to gettasi crisis, How about how about how about how about how about how about how about how? Yeah, I'm going to make sure that I'm going to be able to be able to-apeutic now maybe some kind of storytelling, that maybe, I'm not even I've got to be a value in the way of being the main,
Starting point is 00:06:30 which, I'm nothered in fact that, I was educated, I was trained to be a manned from from the top of the top of the the top of the top of the top of the top of the the top of the same, which is the time of the
Starting point is 00:06:49 normal, and in the case if I'll give there two crises in the United Nations alami in the most the president of
Starting point is 00:06:59 I was tsunami the of the abut in 21 in the one the two
Starting point is 00:07:07 when Indonesia when I'm crisis global the 2008. tsunami that's in Jayapura when the data that's come. Then, not even left information,
Starting point is 00:07:22 masi, she's being sure, I have to beaq right away, directly. Because, for me, I have to go the situation what? After I must be done, I must be done. And then, how much implementation of the conclusion? Al-hmmulah, because the day two, I've got to come to Locked-Sumau-Weh,
Starting point is 00:07:54 in Aceh, Timur, then the days of the next year I putoskutment, crisis. The to curis is better than situation normal.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Barang-kali that's that's the same three people, the operation that can
Starting point is 00:08:16 be able to be done by can't. But, I'm from Almarhumah mennangis because
Starting point is 00:08:22 ribuan genasas the sodara our the person who were born
Starting point is 00:08:29 subami of two-two-but-but-but-one, but I'm going to-hack-shaarous, I have as I have to be able to be able to see. In times of crisis, we're going to make a decision, al-hmudelil, not-sla-h-haputusation, and, and, the process rehabilitation and development of the Acheh and NIAS can be right. That's a good.
Starting point is 00:08:55 how much how much of leadership is done. how much of the same-on. Not be delegations too many in the crisis, and he has the most partung-changue-chap. He is the leader. Now, the second, in the time crisis economy global,
Starting point is 00:09:19 I'm worried, Bung, we're going to be able to be able to beaursive like 1998, 10 years before because, because of the world, I'm in the world, I'm in front of the world, even in the form of the G20, I'd ask for, I'd ask for, the minding of the President America-Sericat,
Starting point is 00:09:43 George Bush, how much the the panang of a person pemmipine Indonesia about G20, forum like what, who's the mission, what's the nation? So, so much the other than before the other than the other than the sameedsdiness, I think, Bung we all right, we all right, wea, I'm going to dolemen, I've done in frontuance, upon the point of the people,
Starting point is 00:10:06 and we're going to anticipate, and yet we're not yet, and, again it's not yet, It's nother, because I'mha because I'm going to happen. Everybody was on board. Pomerentahs, dairah, economists, technocrat, BUMN, private sectors, all right there.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So, so much the same way that, Al-alhamdulilay can't, policy we can't get-segare we take and Indonesia only gotto one-one, from 6% drop to 4.7%, but the year the next year, up again, up again, 6.1, 6.5, and so forth it's the other. What is?
Starting point is 00:10:53 In the case, do you have you can't and quick-upac-upac-and-te-cath. And, again, for a person people-in, hand-on, partang-jave. If you're the people-in who gagal. If it's a man-gagal. If it's been a result, yeah, all that's real. That's two examples, that, I'm not good for
Starting point is 00:11:16 the kids-udadmudan because they're they're the moment of the people. Mr. B., as B. Asb, as a president, has been making many of the legacy or of the legacy that,
Starting point is 00:11:31 that is, that is how you to keep and how you and how and the President Bapak, it's,
Starting point is 00:11:42 menagotan democracy. And the third, how the President Bap and BAPA and BAPA also to build back economy Indonesia. What I think is the other than three of the other than
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah, tantamines is a tough, not ringan, please, back, 20 years, 2004, that,
Starting point is 00:12:07 we're, in six-time we, or Indonesia, to hantam by crisis that's very normal,
Starting point is 00:12:16 normal, we're our economy, social, politics, and, and almost the government must, just be around to the government must, it's going to be right. Now, I'm going tois-bawai, artiness,
Starting point is 00:12:32 the indonesia, the demesia, in the community, there's, there's conflict communal, conflict horizontal, in many of
Starting point is 00:12:42 in Indonesia, from Sampet, POSO, Maluku, Maluku, and many other places, there's conflict vertical. Now, how can we can't get a lot, so there's a condition that good for this to comeally to build economy.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Because stability is important, howan-man-an-an-ment-ment-being-you-demican, and redaminesan. Fockees I'd first, the challenge how much more than the core from the result of the horizontal, but to be right back, not even
Starting point is 00:13:23 there's ever conflict communal that. Al-hmmululah, not ever there's ever since that. Then, I've got focused to make make sense aceh. but
Starting point is 00:13:36 the lastime of the the last year's the last year it's done operation military. I'm perpicker other. Operations military we've done
Starting point is 00:13:46 we've done after 30 years after the government Bung Karno, the government of Parthau, and so forth
Starting point is 00:13:53 it does not work it did not work why we we're not we're not because because I'm because I'm
Starting point is 00:14:02 operation military, the reason why aceh, or conflict can't make sure as far as far as adil and yeah, it's been wucut
Starting point is 00:14:15 that'sa can start to build uph the waylih so I'll build a peace process, political process that
Starting point is 00:14:24 many people but I insist that this is the only way after military, Tuckus'u'u'u'u'n down, for three years, but the puncaking, after there's tsunami,
Starting point is 00:14:40 we'd do, we'll do with a year to beiss process. Artin'n't what? That's a tantan. If that's not been a piece process, the history will be different, both Acheh, and Indonesia.
Starting point is 00:14:56 That's, if it's a matter of power, If we're democracy, yeah, we're even before euphoria, euphoria, euphoria, is good on the one hand. Because this is sadar, we're going to rexies our own, we're going to reccy, we're not absolute power, because the room for the people, it's sped And we healthy
Starting point is 00:15:18 healthy in the country in we choose with sadder we'll make sure. We're doing authoritarian Tugas of people like I'd look, to keep democratic values. The rule of law.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Not only election, but all. As a series of democracy in a universal. And, we're, we're going on the one hand,
Starting point is 00:15:47 who has be controlled, to be able to beaweights, because power tends to corrupt, absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely. So, because it's there's been some of the power that. Who's who's going to watch, institutions that's not true,
Starting point is 00:16:07 so. So on the one hand, as a memberpin, I'm incegaping, I'm taking abuse of power that's done by the people political. But on the other hand, on the other hand, we also want to make the people in the way not cross the line, not just true, betentangangue with the rule of law, and it's the matter that is. That's the
Starting point is 00:16:28 big and, what's important, don't even get back to era authoritarian, because the history has shown, many other than other than gagal because of the system because of the system the system of the same in the system politically. That's if
Starting point is 00:16:48 democracy, bonkita, if I try to make again about the emulian economy we're, I'm mimping, I'm going to the plumbuance, because of crisis,
Starting point is 00:17:02 because of crisis, it's 11, 99, 98, how much we can't even We have because, because of the non-cate-cate-mobile
Starting point is 00:17:12 without growth, no jobs, no-income, no-income, no-money, no-money, not-purning power. I focus. I focus on how to make-kind-catchezing-comal
Starting point is 00:17:25 abh-a-one-one-one-one-one-old-old-old-old-old- -d-d-d-DP-income, debt-to-GDP-in-cum, utang, we're-persein. Tad to GDP-Rash. down, 24%. There's there's there's uproamph, our economy we can't unassi,
Starting point is 00:17:45 CGI we can bubarked, so we can build economy with concept, with blue-plane, with the plan, with the Rancangin, it's not a process, it's still there, there, there, up and down,
Starting point is 00:18:00 but if I have to recall my memory, memory, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's always there, but at the same time, there's always a solution, there way out. That's, if I can tell you, my challenge when I'm coming up an amana
Starting point is 00:18:16 to make to make a democracy, and, and, and, likewise, mission to come back to make making the economy our. Tupkutank, thank you, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Bap, We all, especially that's more than the same here, make-intingingant, or be a great-intingant-in-a-old-untiked to make-a-old-old-being-a-be-besar. In fact, what's what? This good questions. This is very important issue that we have to know. I'm going to hear. then in 2004-Indonesia
Starting point is 00:19:00 I'mas, I like but we have to there's parasharativist there, imperative-tt that's will be from the I'm more conservative if I'm 4,
Starting point is 00:19:19 Indonesia is developed country to be frank I don't believe. But if if it's strong nation
Starting point is 00:19:28 it is quite possible. Now if we take it through process nation building and national development
Starting point is 00:19:37 to the future in the last of 21 this Indonesia, can be developed country. Now we're member of the G20, we're also the biggest country in ASEAN, but I think that there's a number of
Starting point is 00:19:54 people, there are imperatives I said that I'm saying that. First, we're going to, we must have civilizations that's more much, because if civilization and we're in the world, we're all of the same-generating nation, self-developing nations. That's a prasarrat.
Starting point is 00:20:18 The education is very important, the world technology is very not only in the artian economy but also in artian culture and to civilizations. Now, in that we have to make make sure that transformation
Starting point is 00:20:35 our own, right, with right, with the right we have to transform. Okay, now, al-hmudelilah, we're being
Starting point is 00:20:47 a g-20, but the work our work our we don't have been done, we're going to time to
Starting point is 00:20:54 years, from days of dhasa to and then move, because that I, I,
Starting point is 00:21:00 if I, can't make make a jembattan, there is a bridge. to be a major majean. We've got 20 years to come.
Starting point is 00:21:14 It's got to bottle and again again big. The second, we need strong economy. Not only tumble sumata, but it's up with fundamental that, tumble with adil, and tumble without merusat and we can do that. And we can do that. Strong economy.
Starting point is 00:21:34 The next is strong democracy. Baganamapumatim democracy is not perfect system. There plus and minuses, there are waccha good and wacchargapy. But to me, dibundingan system politic, I love democracy. Soly, because if democracy, make money,
Starting point is 00:21:52 and make money, with the agenda that I have again, I have a bigger nation. I have given a better nation. A better country. And the prasarat this must be given. Mempain, have to have vision. Mempins us all. All bekerja. Willing to sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But, of the concept that's the right. So I'm going to say that that's the real challenge. I'm garris-bawayings. We have to transform. We have to be able to change. If not be a new way, it's too far as a country and to be a major major major.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Like in the story of the World War II, a bridge too far. It's difficult to make upy it. That's my opinion I. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. President, Mr.B.S.B. that isa
Starting point is 00:22:51 that's one of one of the other than for people who much what they're much what they have to think to actualisizing the vision to the future.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yeah, this is very and I am happy because I am happy because I can say to make them people, people, people, people,
Starting point is 00:23:12 people, people, people, Indonesia, has been a good the from the geography of our, from our identity of our we can be communicates,
Starting point is 00:23:25 we can be communicates with with, with bloc block of the other monop, the of our
Starting point is 00:23:37 good, with breaks, with the countries and the system political that's different also, we can get-out and we can reach out,
Starting point is 00:23:48 any other than good. That's a capital that's a good-peratured, then standing we're getting to be, making more, more, making. Tadding our country that's in crisis in 1998, ten years after, we're being member of the G20, great achievement.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Perasa, percée deities, we're making. If you know what's more than Indonesia, then it comes great responsibility. Who's who's going to film Spider-Man, remember, Nassiat Uncle Ben, to Peter that, there's,
Starting point is 00:24:28 with great power, comes to great responsibility. Same Indonesia. Indonesia has to beduty and be contributory to the world. Atasian, Asia, Asia, and to the world,
Starting point is 00:24:44 and we can't eveninging the part of it. What's important, let's do you play agenda that's there, there's a bit of the power of
Starting point is 00:24:53 Indonesia, and we're saying we can do whatever something, we can't, we can't, we can't
Starting point is 00:24:58 make upure but Indonesia, but Indonesia, we can't be actively engaged in the
Starting point is 00:25:06 in the world-a-a-a-tingara, a lot of Asia-Tegrolet, also can be able to be-duelly and care of peace-reliance and security, we're active in peacekeeping mission around the globe and with performance that good. Lantas, if
Starting point is 00:25:24 the issue, we can't be able. We have forum G20, APEC, ISA, SESA, Asian, and many so many. The whole thing, is here, I'm from China, with China, with Japan, with Korea, with Australia, good, and the region. But with the west, the Timur, Islam, Uttar, South.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Andh, al-hmmuilah, we have standing, we have to have, and it's in our constitution, and it's under the constitution, and the law constitution, and what's clear, proven. Many of the Indonesia, for the, for the young, We have the from the U. from D'Urano, and the rest of the U.N.N.S.
Starting point is 00:26:15 all active. Activnesses. As far as with the power of our our power, our power of our, more more than more than it can't be contributed. And,
Starting point is 00:26:29 it's not that we've in the day, I'maulah, Allah, Kasi usia long, to see, people people, more,
Starting point is 00:26:37 more harrum can't again, of the name of the nation. In the world, Bapa, Bapa, Bapaa, that's about now, this is the era, can be
Starting point is 00:26:51 being multipolar. And it's identical with how the world is making full with
Starting point is 00:26:57 many many many different. Now, what I'm what I can say to people
Starting point is 00:27:04 people, generation mud, that, inshol- can be people, the people
Starting point is 00:27:10 Indian to the this is what they have to make sure to make sure stability and the economy to the next
Starting point is 00:27:21 this is the two elements the people like what? The other can manage can mission this is
Starting point is 00:27:29 to to make stability economy and and make sure it's
Starting point is 00:27:35 making make the people So the mainpimping has been able to make sure. What's going on in our world? So there's the model of the world that's been able to be made up to meeked by the people to help us in Indonesia in Indonesia,
Starting point is 00:28:04 in the world that's more dynamic, and then-men-nors-per-per-upus, because, if we're notherty economy. Economy this, 10-tour-ter-cary-drague, in the condition not stable. Many geolat, many shocks,
Starting point is 00:28:25 many discontinuities. And, And it's even because of COVID-before-before-notes-not-retel from the crisis 2008-2009. Now, in the situation like, it's like what? Indonesia.
Starting point is 00:28:42 The people will be the level anything, not only president, but it's not just we'll make the power. It's a good. Fundamental economy, we're not strong. and and better better than
Starting point is 00:28:59 fundamental economic, if you're not only continuous growth but also the other than employment and make sure not too many penguins,
Starting point is 00:29:12 then just stability of the market and can't make sure that not the problem the endangue but if a lot has got to
Starting point is 00:29:22 make money to make tucupy the day-hurt, that's fundamental. It's not the matter, but the same-fuscal our but the same. To make sure that's the requirement,
Starting point is 00:29:36 the baratting-allet what, the element element, that can't economy we're tumbled again. We're seeing or menonton
Starting point is 00:29:48 debate tapras, debate manap-pun, talk-show, and some other way-sha-o-law-o-o-a-cou, I'm back if we're if we're the bottom 5% if we're going 6% to 7%
Starting point is 00:30:02 don't too far again, can make 1% 6%% 5%% or more more than than more than than
Starting point is 00:30:13 how much than the economy like that for the economy for economists which is the main side economy economy, if the economy willow household
Starting point is 00:30:28 because of the same-tankment, in the world, the world, if there's still, if more than more than the more, menhage to be miskin, it's not good.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's, they're able to , butahal, consumption of the aga component penting down to increase the number one. Tolong policy in
Starting point is 00:30:51 next to the point, and make sure, the work work the better than better than the way of the way of the core of the economic growth. The second is investation. Investation is
Starting point is 00:31:08 there's a lot, there's a lot of but it must be from now. It's the back investas in the country or investment foreign direct investment. What, what, how hard-sult-sult-sely,
Starting point is 00:31:24 investations to Indonesia, and the tendrungation to beckoned than than Vietnam, to India, Tyeongk, and other. Pahomily, in myroupilitar, okay, now this. The amount of good,
Starting point is 00:31:38 than it's better thaning-due. There's also reformation, there, here, regulation, okay-so, so-all. This is important, I think, sir, I think, we know, bung, we also
Starting point is 00:31:55 have, been the same, the power of, the power of, the fact-ation of the law, legal framework. If not bad, they'll say goodbye. But, although we need investment.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Because that's also element of the development in the development. I'maurembergapaghton, I'm nothurted the Pabankaned the law-custian the legal certainty,
Starting point is 00:32:25 legal framework. So, don't even court we, if there's disbue, it's un-a-nap-aned. Who,
Starting point is 00:32:33 want to come to Indonesia. Who must not can't, because factor X there's intervention in the penedialan and the same.
Starting point is 00:32:41 This I'm going to We've got to make up. We've got to make sure. We've got togastrichter, and tugue, and tugue set up state this this is a lot
Starting point is 00:32:53 in the world business. Legal certainty in the politics, democracy, and the and this unfinished agenda for Indonesia
Starting point is 00:33:04 to fix our legal system, make it more Now, the third is about the third of the third-taughting don't too much utang.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Before we've got to turn-korned, don't do you know-knotic-knot. So, if the work fiscal-necalfeck, if it's enough, agenda that's been can, do-cuit-can. If not from where, the money,
Starting point is 00:33:33 the way-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-regard-n't-regn't. Agenddare-n't-a-n't-n't. But we have no money. because of the lawless fiscal with good. Government matters. Even government spending that can't
Starting point is 00:33:47 make sure that's a lot of work new. There connection between policy and job creation. That's also important.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Last part, not least, is the solution export and import import we need to be jagged. Pandey-Langelah mannally passar
Starting point is 00:34:05 what competitive advantage our age, if we're saying with Vietnam, India, China, how we're going to be. If it's not, if we're going to to be able to take it, that's important. That's for me, ma'amie, pa, five years to the that's what need to ghenjot. If in the long run, it's, it's been a good demand side of the economy, but it's more the supply side, about human capital, innovation, technology,
Starting point is 00:34:33 but it's just to be it just to be it's just, it's just make we'll make up to move because of the way to make sure and I'm sorry to see that's middle class to poor community or
Starting point is 00:34:48 near poor. It's not really. So, moral, the government be responsible. Don't give to bea-lata
Starting point is 00:34:54 not-biasa. If capitalism not sensitive to the humiskinan. The economy pastor-an- extreme, not-pud-douly
Starting point is 00:35:03 to the topangang, but buttaping, but we're due to make make sure not too much, not too much, just right, so by that that,
Starting point is 00:35:18 to get, um, and making up-and-a-misskine, and, which, and, to build the economy,
Starting point is 00:35:27 that's stumbed. That's my on economy, especially about stimulating economic growth in the years to come. Wow. Serasa, like in master class. And I'm not only only by theory. I've said I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:35:49 I'maamundrailah, 6% of the for us. Good for this nation. Bapha, a little bit of philosophy and the propimpinpinpinan. In the history and this long this, we've seen many inventor,
Starting point is 00:36:08 the people think of the same thing about how muchacate with identity of the beaithasan and democracy. How much P. P.S.B.E. can define-definition and menjaga the beabasan and democracy
Starting point is 00:36:26 in context Indonesia. Yeah. This is a thing. Maybe not all but I'm sorry. we do I do concern with freedom and also democracy this. Freedom is
Starting point is 00:36:44 the power of manusia because the most the most important in life we can't we can choose we can't choose, whatever we can't democracy is what? It's actually
Starting point is 00:36:59 the righter who is the people are that people who are the people who are to make themimpeen to election, to make themmenue harapan, harapeshapparerment, and the constitution is adornate, system also, and sopathy, and sogain. If the human in the country, the
Starting point is 00:37:21 it's heard and do-wucutelytive, democracy is alive. So because that if we're not yet how we're noticaping and how we're not around freedom and democracy this. So I think I'm as much as much as much as much as much. Absolute power tends to corrupt. So power must not go unchecked. has the power by the other than the president
Starting point is 00:37:57 the B. Everyone's the B.D. M.P.R., the P.D.M.P.R., the P.L.L.E.O., social society, NGO, including massaract, luas. So, it's like, siang, malam, decontrol, in,
Starting point is 00:38:11 the, the, the, it is good. Because I'm not to get god to un-gunakan the power. Artin the right there is control. That's important. But butableness, that's the line,
Starting point is 00:38:26 that's not good. Liberty to corrupt. Absolute liberty can corrupt absolutely. Now, the way not with repressy, not with decedoc, not that but de-ingoted by-accidant your freedom based on our rule of law. There's batasiness. And that's not a problem. It's about it's about
Starting point is 00:38:52 people to be back back so that's about democracy and freedom it's, in my opinion, it's a question of the government. Sahabat my Barack Obama said, in order democracy to prevail,
Starting point is 00:39:09 we have to fight for, we have to fight for, we're to be jake, Indonesia has to be able to begues, That's new democracy And so, now,
Starting point is 00:39:19 because that I think to the time to keep in front, I have given I'm sure that if all the values of democracy and the
Starting point is 00:39:32 constitutions the country we can continue be on the right track to build the right
Starting point is 00:39:40 to make sure. The next again. Again, again, I still also, more senior, we're more than more than more than more than we have to
Starting point is 00:39:55 democracy or economic development. Duralu, if you're not going to make freedom, you know, it's not safe. Pillar security or to believe freedom. That's as I'mgap mythos. Mythos to mingle us long as well. And I can prove it. when I'm going to bea a manh
Starting point is 00:40:16 democracy, also is still economy too much the way. Artinia the mythos that don't be made
Starting point is 00:40:27 dahlih to not to not be a democracy. Demikin also can't we can't we can't
Starting point is 00:40:34 keep in unforex from hoselter conflict in where Aceh Selesai Pabua has be controlled
Starting point is 00:40:41 with good now this, while the adelaide and the gooderat our gooderate in Papua. But point I am, we can't be two-douan-a-timore.
Starting point is 00:40:51 We've got to matthews that. So, the whole is important. Democracy, yes, the peace-eas, and, the people are,
Starting point is 00:41:02 we're not being able to be able to be able to bea-miped a government. That's, I think, Thank you. Bapa.
Starting point is 00:41:11 It's about you've been over the matter of the this. This is a bit philosophical. But, in front Bapa, it's arti from leadership, or arti from the compimpinpinman. That's what, and application it's what? Yeah, leadership is,
Starting point is 00:41:30 the definition that's the most is how much more than how much of the same, the same thing that's the same together, parantingatigua, many people, with vision,
Starting point is 00:41:50 to make a At the topathe's more, the topatheaval the same. The leadership. So how to influence the people positively to make the decision? Now, at the time, the first,
Starting point is 00:42:22 pastikan, the claim that good, the life of a country, berbanks, with tatananan that, with system that is under, that is to be jakea, Tugas the people's after the same-building. Melancho-Defiolpment,
Starting point is 00:42:39 then the mainstrapin with vision, with strategy-neutral to make sure-as-and-it-it-to-wecure. And then, this is the most I like, the, the people, don't too many medigasical, even not even micromanaging.
Starting point is 00:42:59 This is right, but if you know-safe, if you're notherap if you're notherst, you know, then, the people can't come out from track it, can't beer, it's not productive, it's not effective.
Starting point is 00:43:19 So, because it, yeah, the people are, the same thing, of responsibility, sense of mission, I doa, I'd bea-upon, I'm as a lota-deged to do you, the people-upon, profession whatever, with the way that day,
Starting point is 00:43:39 have tanguangu-jawap, have vision and decedarsan, willing to work together, to work hard, to sacrifice, withsama-same, that if it's true, even though,
Starting point is 00:43:53 even though there's always there, There's setback but trust me, Indonesia will move to the right now if the right if it's not even even to the place wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:07 That's the essence of leadership if we're application it's a way to but backal to basic the people who are the same and then make sure the other to make sure that's the same thing
Starting point is 00:44:22 Now, if there's a system, there, yeah, in the corridor that, don't be able to behast, Sala, tabrass in. Pah, Phaq, Phaarque, Bha, Phaarque, Pha, Pha, Fah, Fah, Bha, Pah, Mawani, has been back to Rhattulah, about five years.
Starting point is 00:44:43 This is about the power of history. What's many so many times in here is, is how much peran-a-oh-Buh-Buh-Ni, to the president of the president of the president of bach, and also, and also,
Starting point is 00:44:57 the part of Bapac, in this right now. Tell you. Yeah, this, yeah, I'm just as well, the Pursuant, the first year-tlene-the-lusts in my life.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I'm not and time I'm notherstom I'm notherstaking I'm overbiasa and the same as long as carinduance also that's amazing but I think in the
Starting point is 00:45:32 new the she's I'm a new year that, I'm new, I'm I'm sure I'm sure I don't want to be in the sedition and the I do believe she wants me. move on to back.
Starting point is 00:45:49 That's what I'm doing in healing process I'm quite struggling, but I have to do day by day, day, night after night. Atchern, we're getting stronger. And, while I'merhumah, I'm doing what can
Starting point is 00:46:10 make sure of my life. And I'm still think many people are being impinged by Ibu Ani that's my message and my mother, and my son-stice to mewit-to-say to make sure that the impiked that.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Then, if you're if they're asked, what is the peran-I-Ni to the SBA? I'm before I've been to be president, for the last 30 years, and it's long,
Starting point is 00:46:39 full with succaduka also. Terbanting in there, here, three years, in the three years in
Starting point is 00:46:46 the area in the war, so, so, the children in terror, because
Starting point is 00:46:51 it's still the situation of the war that, but he's he's always, he never mengeluk,
Starting point is 00:46:59 he, he's, We're atonged-harmal, and the risk-a-hattangue, and the time-noting, the time, the time I'm going to bea-kindle-indon-Indonesia, I think the people are chacchee and be-pudgy. Many-as-cali-court-cuit,
Starting point is 00:47:15 kind of fidna, in the time I have to bea-bac-bac-a-d-dha-harm. and makewatraxathe, and, ahamrilla, and, ahemned, we're in the kentapah, has to bepahed, has togare, and yet there's pepata, we're not beingepa, what adder. So, that's all right, we're taking,
Starting point is 00:47:36 but, we'llurus, we'llurus, we're allurend that this the the government has done, and will do not do so much. It's also, be both, and doca, so that's saleming making uphurted our hearty our humah, doctrine we're two,
Starting point is 00:47:54 the separaten both, activities a woman-negara, inso-organis'-organis'-propan, not into two things. Don't move-will-wilic-practice, don't make-massoukis. So, because I dook, I'm-ducing,
Starting point is 00:48:09 who's very creative to make-embang-dunct-dunuch-old for the for the too-bentor-pintar, mobile-pintar, motor-pintar, and so-gain. Then, the lingquemingan, the land of pliara pohond, in many-mara-pohaned, in the micro, in the room-divant, to help, to have creativity,
Starting point is 00:48:46 they've been good. That's the part of that, and I'm sure that done by al-Marhumah, d'u, with other, that's still valid. It's still, still, maybe, maybe,
Starting point is 00:49:03 to the contribution from a first lady that positive, and constructive, and, and there's the other than that's about it. Thank you. Bapak, Bapa, Bapa, many people of the almarumma, Buhany. Kira, what can be able to generation muda, who's now,
Starting point is 00:49:33 this, especially the female, Yeah. When I'm iniqued I'm in I'm in I'm one person, I'm being captain, not being general,
Starting point is 00:49:55 lieutenant, the life's also not much but, but, the wife who who,
Starting point is 00:50:03 who, who, when we're in the house-to-to-to-reyshue can with profession, the family, the power of the power and the batas-companpani-sum-pani. I'm in the contribution,
Starting point is 00:50:20 that's the contribution in the life-tang-a-lars-sponsor, this to the children, women, menacah-and-a-mach-d-a-poh-mah what can do a person-o-o-o-o-many. of the
Starting point is 00:50:35 don't, don't more than that. it's a different. Tukaran, the other than Indonesia's what, so that's, so it's a bit of, so. Yeah, the second, it's true,
Starting point is 00:50:48 if you're going to if you're two books, there are two books, Kepakshaya, Putri-Prajure, and 10-ton-perjalan-hated, will tell in that,
Starting point is 00:50:58 that, that, I'mean, strong. not even more than more than more than the same-dhappah
Starting point is 00:51:05 gajiness pass-past-an yeah enjoy not-mellos same-secally he's a-general I'm a-law-litt-n but
Starting point is 00:51:14 in what-n-n-a-n-n-n-cath-a-cath-a-cann-a-cuh-old-a-cunus, we can't bea-mas-ocibly allan, without so much of the whole, so on the other than what'sry that's strong, it's very muchnessed perjured to a family, muciskshire,
Starting point is 00:51:38 mrs. Shebetulner, I'm not going to be four-bunuch in four-bulan in the room-sacit in the night when I'm at the banku in the room per-wattan,
Starting point is 00:51:51 because there's not other. I know, she has I know, but he's but he's gothers, but her, cancer, is very aggressive, so that I'm not able to be able to be able to be able to be able to survive, to keep, but up, but but God menactedrican again. So, in that that's to be respect to my late beloved wife.
Starting point is 00:52:23 and the other than Ibu Annie active, creative, organization for what is good. But, but never melupacquakean, not ever melanching the task as a person, and and children and children. and also, for me, she is very helpful. Not only for me, but also for the people who are good, and with what
Starting point is 00:52:57 what you're doing, I think, in the batheas of the power of the first lady there is that it's beenpanked for the people of Indonesia. I think that, Bung, we can't tell us. I'm going to I'm more than I'm I'm going to beaubes. I'm going to beaacca book of the book that's. Ibu Annie,
Starting point is 00:53:19 the person's straight forward. What had it? Not ever leapsed to makegang handpun, until, yeah, it's just, time 2 o'clock, because I have to respond. So, whatever. So, sometimes, subpo,
Starting point is 00:53:32 has been born, respond. I'm more much to read SMS, the people, I've got it, I've got it, I'm I'm back, I'm gonna'bara me respond, I'mbacca, lewate handpun that. Artinia, I'm
Starting point is 00:53:46 it's called, what, what, name, the, and, and, everyone who are being embalan, in Indonesia, both,
Starting point is 00:53:55 swaminess, and upon hisriy. What I'm, what I'm, you're gonna, now, with the pergian homeruma.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Yeah, if we Frank, if we have been frank, I don't have hope. Waddo, this 43 years with barren, especially if Mahrib, that, biazzae, and we're together, gone, there's not again. So,
Starting point is 00:54:33 so, every titic in my room, there, there's even though, I'm batheaval to the part of the same because I've been memory that's amazing
Starting point is 00:54:44 with al-mahumah. But, al-hmma, butchidtuh, I'm more and it's more more good to the one. One, if you
Starting point is 00:54:58 the problem the person, the person, that's, I'm back, that I'm sure, yeah, with character
Starting point is 00:55:05 Annea not even she's not even because of the United Godhurt of course if I'm out out of ringcaran and
Starting point is 00:55:19 she will be very happy if I'll be very happy if I'm sure and al-hmilis, it's good for me and yeah and yeah if you're still can be able to make sure can talk to juju-cuc so I'm
Starting point is 00:55:39 so I'm sure I'm at least if we're pension we're barren gnatur gnatur Cucucs, and sogainn't even after Cucucucs, and soagely but but but I'm backerick to the other than I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:55:54 I'm in my name after this maybe what I'm going to control emotion I'm after this this is I've been doing activities that
Starting point is 00:56:11 part of melukis and the club bollafoli which name is Lavani why
Starting point is 00:56:22 The time of my time, I'm a man, I'm having, men, I'm having, men, I'm going to be I'm doing. I'm in
Starting point is 00:56:32 jurorsan matematica. Sema Paccita from a hundred people, only one of one of them one of them one of them.
Starting point is 00:56:41 But, I just through I, I'm just through I in arena the arena I'mper, I'mpict,
Starting point is 00:56:48 gamelan, and make boise, that I'm going to bea I was very active, so I'm not only I'm not even though I'm taking academic I'm, but I more than glute the world, energy, energy, energy, from the olivoli, traveling,
Starting point is 00:57:10 mempian, organization with with people, because, I mean, I think I, it's very good in the progenal of the life to the upon, and that's what I'llami. And, if we're back now, I'm still today, I'm looking at the Bula Folly Indonesia is good. Insha'allah can be big five in Asia.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Now we're big 10, number 7, 8 a lot, and 1, 1,000,000,09,000,000,000,000,000-being-furtainment-futable -furtletalian-atletalitinian-a-plitology-enar, can't be there. Pro-liga now, where Lava, is, be in the it's more good, quality-performance
Starting point is 00:57:50 muttoning. And Lafani, I give you name Lafani because Love Ani, Sinta Ani. I've been taken six months after his Miningal Dunia and as a newcomer has two times
Starting point is 00:58:11 become a year national. Comearin, leaps, to be a joy of two, but, inshallelah, nancy a lot, to the next to be able to be able to be able to be able to do with later, I'm going to be, I'm going to give motivation, I'm saying, and they're trying, not because of talk about I, but they're I'm
Starting point is 00:58:41 I'mbina I'm free of the many of the people there's a tukang becac there's a masoning there burrubbred, there tambal ban now become
Starting point is 00:58:53 top at the national for me that I'maq and they know I'llihka in per currant so they're
Starting point is 00:59:01 also have a lot of the past so that so that when above Bula Folli and it's
Starting point is 00:59:07 also not even before I've done before I'm going to pass top of Osar 20 October, October then. Some of the other people, my farewell speech in PBA, I've got to go ahead and I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:59:26 a book book, to buy alat-lucisan, canvas, cuas, set. But, it's very, It's not there's not even though after that I'm not yet. I'm sure that's making sure my owningsings again. And
Starting point is 00:59:47 when I'm elucous, there's a cuteduan in heart of my. Now, with the sun we've got, and what did, I've got, I have hope. Harry esok. I can't make something. Because if you're not without hope, not there's good for the future of my
Starting point is 01:00:07 so much of my opinion of my life. So, I'm going to be there's going to in this country, to do something that for me after not being president again. This is at the this is the end of the other
Starting point is 01:00:26 this, this is a question bonus. It's been there's been what's lukesan that you've Lookis. One other, Bapagos, what makes you happy?
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah. Lugisans, I'm dug that's now, more in gallery in Patzita. I've given name Gallery, Annie Yudoyono. Some of the Gallery mini-s, I'm at CGS. Sampeky-Hast, about 300 lookisans. I'melukes, I'melucis. I'm about three years,
Starting point is 01:01:04 in the world of artir. I'maticer, I'm also beginner, the first of the luskis, oh, Bapha, three years, how's this, progressing, yeah, maybe from my inner power, I'm back,
Starting point is 01:01:20 Ammanah, al-Marhumah, so I'm working like that. So, around 300 paintings, to the day every day. I have every every day. And then in the
Starting point is 01:01:30 other than I'm inelisaking one of life. Every single day. So, so, with
Starting point is 01:01:39 with I mean, God. And then, if what made me I'm happy, I'm happy, I have been
Starting point is 01:01:46 75 years, I'm, three per four abat. For me, I'm, I have be healthy.
Starting point is 01:01:55 healthy. The other, I have something. Something. I have something. I have a pran that I've made can. Like, because this, berbaki people
Starting point is 01:02:09 with talent, colon people people of the people who are the people who are people who I'm going to be able to speak about. I'm still have rules. I'm not active in day-to-day politics. Not again. I've already in there, but I'm gulutie the one this. And if that I'm doing, I am pursuing my happiness.
Starting point is 01:02:35 So my happiness is, you can traveling, that was that was like that was like that. It's a lot of money, then you can't even make suretick, uh, Kira kind of like that. And I try to do my best for that. Bapa, it's an honor.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Thank you. Thank you. Happy birthday for PASB. Thank you. Thank you. This is NG.

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