Endgame with Gita Wirjawan - Tipi Jabrik: Selancar: Magnet Pesohor Dunia ke Indonesia

Episode Date: July 30, 2023

Laut mengajarkan manusia tentang ketabahan. Dari rembulan yang terus mengekang permukaan. Laut mengajarkan manusia tentang kegigihan. Bagaimana gelombang tak pernah letih menyentuh daratan. Laut mengajarkan manusia tentang kesederhanaan. Enggan tunduk pada kesombongan, meski miliknya selaksa kemegahan. Alam selalu punya caranya sendiri untuk selalu mengingatkan betapa kecilnya, silapnya, dan luputnya kita. Kali ini, alam bersuara lewat Tipi Jabrik — seorang peselancar tersohor asal Bali yang bermimpi agar suatu hari nanti olahraga yang digelutinya dapat dicintai masyarakat Indonesia. Dalam percakapan ini, Tipi menggambarkan bagaimana keberkahan geografis dan kekayaan antropologis masyarakat pesisir Indonesia masih belum dimanfaatkan secara optimal untuk pengembangan selancar. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #TipiJabrik ------------------------ Berminat menjadi pemimpin visioner berikutnya? Hubungi SGPP Indonesia di: [e-mail] admissions.sgpp.ac.id wa.me/628111522504 Playlist episode "Endgame" lainnya: Indonesia Matters Wandering Scientists The Take Kunjungi dan subscribe: SGPP Indonesia Visinema Pictures

We have aeg, we have a manik-moyang we're a lot. But we're not-sysir our own that's not-soucernang. Many who don't like to the water. I'd better than the panthe. But if we're going to be Australia, in California, prime location is beachfront. What is their lifestyle?

Beach lifestyle. Ocean lifestyle. Because they're not going to have slogan, I mean, no, they're like, I'm like, Sedanca, there's. This is N-GEL-LIN. Hello,

TAR-T-T-Man. Hello, time we're to get-tankan-a-Raeq, one of Sala-Care-that-N-Nor-N-A-N-Nor-T-Pi-Pi-Pi-Pi-Pi-Pi-Peky-Ey. Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, yeah. I, thank you, thank you, my, thank you,

with you and cabang olaragascar. I want to ask, many of the other than I'm going to know, ah, asal mullagia, that, how much, pithy, then, and then,

can't get in surfing. Um, if you're going to um, background of my my background, I guess a little bit more because,

because of the family, from, actually, from Jakarta, but My katea, kind of katea, so, kind of, cliling, cliling, cliling,

maybe, bapaccai, he'd just like to clioling clioling. One day, he decided to Bally, to be in the early 70s. From there, he, he, like, playing music, hangout, with, pioneers, paeer, buleck, like, that, that was in,

the profession, memosy. If you were, maybe, no, there, Profes. I don't know, profusiness, maybe. Maybe he's given him with the people's about. Abyss to,

then we've got to come to a place in time during the time hangout, namiae, if people, they know kaiuapi. Yeah, they're coming to be able to be together, they have three kids, and then we move to a place in legion. We're likeer, best, it was in legion.

Cuma, from the Panthe, and that's how it's all started. I'm from Austria. Okay. Ketemned in Bali. In Bali, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Then, then. What was the time to, when you, when I'm, came to, Aya. I mean, I mean, she's actually,

life back in Austria. He, he was in 45. Austria, part of Germany. So, yeah, the country that was a,

the country calah perang. So, so, also people who I don't know if you watch this about Arnold he talked about

why he ran away from Austria someone who's born in 45 and like that they want to get away from Austria and one of them is my mom yeah,

yeah, so from Austria to Asia because in Amsterdam there's a thing that they're that they're called hippie trail

So, from Europe, goa, from India. Abyss to Kuala Lumpur, to Bali. So that's her trail. She drive from Europe to Kuala Lumpur. And then from there, go naïk ferry from Medan to Bali, then to get to meet Bapa's my. Wow.

Then, then, where? If you're all go local, yeah. Because of 80s, I'm in the 80s, I wish, I was in the national school or something, but in Bali, in the 80s, we're going to be in the S.D. just the SEDs be able to-room, yeah, S-D-3-Kuta.

From, from class 1 to class 6, S-D. He's not, we'd beckxed to Karangasem. In Karangasem, Keptulang, Keptulang, I'm, bap, my, bapacus. So, bapac-sha-sugue. So, my, my, I've, took, making studio, buy the land, buy the studio

so that's new the room our own, pinnap, pinn't. But I think one of the reasons is my parents want to take us away from the nightlife. Because, can, time 90s, can be nightlife in double six,

like my parents, like, I brought, they're just, from bundle, bundle, it's... To be brought to Karangasem. Jove, Timur. Jove, well, yeah,

about two years. And I'm back back to to school at SMA. I think my education is only until SMA, yeah. Like that's you. You're likeer in 70. 27, yeah. Okay.

Then when when you're going to be planar? I was... Wow. I think I was only like... Six. Five years old.

Wow. Yeah. Because, I, I, I'm, I'm at legion, the house we're just meter

from the Panty. And the other than one of, one of, the, one of, one of, the, one of, yeah, that's, they're like,

see, sunset is, that, the, that's, that they, that's, that,

so, the, the, the, the, there, there, there,

yeah, there, yeah, there, yeah, everything, so, So, from, from the time from the air,

so it's the kind of our own. So, it's got to get down the air, main pasir, main boogie board. I'm not know where the moment I'm going to surfing, that I'm not know. Tibba, I've got to, I've got to, like,

hook on it, and I'm not know, that's because of what, I'm not know. Omer, five, six years, I don't, I think,

not, six years, not, the ecosystem, which, which is not who's not people, not people,

who's not the other people. The other than a second. And we're, we're both, we're doing serving with some of the same. If you're not wrong, maybe there's one of the customer my father, and he's server.

And before he's back, he tariffan slantorna in the room. From there, we bring pampaign every day to the panty. Maybe from there, it's beener. Blurry-bagnan, I don't know. I'm gonna six-tall.

Five-town, six-tawn. And how many times in the week? serving. Because like, like, like, like, in the time of the time of course, we're like, manning when I'm like mantenging. If I was serving, I'm panting.

Siap, sorry, after school, yeah, serving. Not, not there's a thing to be professional or not, but, like, we're playing, yeah,

it's, like, the play, the game of, yeah, serving, and the other, how, the time. When you have you know of 5 years,

then, then, then, there's got to boughambe, there's no, no, there's cataputern, no, there whatever. If I'm, actually,

can, people, people, there's there, kind of, maybe, mitos,

or what, but, I'm, I'm but I'm still em'emeter, but I'm not gethirty because I'm having even tell me

to us. It's not perna. If I'm not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not ever again. We're not ever. We're not,

if, if, if it's, bebas, if it's up to looka or, or what, keep going, not matter. Yeah, not per romeg. It's,

If I've got to Jakarta, I've been to my name of my permission, Permissi, oh, I'm going to ask the Siyah, to the palibuan ratu. The answer, yeah, it's a little extreme. Yeah, it's been a bit. You want to ask my dog my mother? So, so, I'm going to hear, like that. But if I'm not...

But it's natural. In benact, many people are the other. If we're not if we're notar If we're notar Or something, we're thinking It's a bigot Yeah, yeah That's what you're

To overcame Apopin, whatever Like mental block Or mental block of the Peopleer, who's the Moregant, or maybe There's been There's been learning

To be able to be What, you know, Whateck-Kutkan Orcautant? So really the most important trust, and if we're sure

if we're sure that's making people not work together not work people, I mean, the people, if they're,

if they're bingong. If not not they're not school, bingum. Mokken, the,

the, I'm just, the, that's, that we're This is What ishapot, what, What about, if we're

Whenop in the benakness of the If we're being able to serveing, can, omagued can. Actually, actually, if people, when, not pack mobile F1. Yeah.

Mobile it's maybe Pake... Yeah. ...mobile that's... Avansa? Or... ...bun... ...bun...

...barrari that's ...that... ...the... ...f-one driver, ... ...but... But, but people, they're often, they're always to see what they're always

something. They're making sure that's something that's different. So, that's how much. We're as a lot, sometimes, yeah, some of the fact, yeah, actually, actually, so, actually. Maybe I want to ask,

you, you know, type of can be able to looker as far as you're going to be able to risk? Yeah. Or you're like, ah, bado'amette. T'gapu'u. Yeah, if you're doing. Yeah, if I'm,

if I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, I'm saying, ah, baudoamette. Actually, serving, can't be able to be fun, but also can be extreme. Yeah. I mean, when I'm under,

I'm also, I, like, push limit too, push the limit, that I was like that's always like that's and the most to put the limit you have to calculate we have to calculate, we have to calculate capacity, the power of our own way,

like environment, if it's all overre predictable, yeah there's natural element that we can't control ocean, that we can't be, the loatham can't we can't control. So, if I, if I was really, I'm not calculate. Before I'm serving, I always try to adapt

with the condition, with the water, with swasana. Because manusia that has been a sense, has a indra. And indra, indra, this can't help us to be able to calculate whatever that we can't do. Many people who think surfing is something that, what, yeah, like, I'm looking like,

I'm not masculine, showing up, equipment, well, not. If I'm not, if I'm not. Yeah, right. If you're going to be a lifestyle, for me, it's more than lifestyle. Surfing is my life.

It's, it's been better. It's better. It's better. If we're going to be lifestyle, the person may be basketball, dribbling ball. That's my lifestyle. like the lifestyle

but I'm like the same thing I think about surfing every day I eat I talk I drive I drive my my wife to become like love to

what I do so it's a precondition yeah it's a it's a journey surfing it's it's my goal one day I want everybody to understand

what is surfing? Because surfing is to do you do not. My goal is to explore all the beautiful places in Indonesia that's my goal. And I think, I don't want to be it. I don't want to understand that. That's amazing.

Yeah. Because many who don't get to, what is surfing, surfing, surfing. It's up to you, perspective of the people about surfing. But for me, it's a journey. You're sharing, is the story of the people

when you're the time of the same time, seven years, and so forth or they're the type of the queque just like that? No, no, they... They're part of this journey. So, they... So, inclusive, yeah,

discursion, yeah. And there's, there is, there? Feedback from them that make... ...ementook spiritualization this. Yeah,

yeah, many, yeah, there's, can, The other people are the other, what I think? Every, every school holiday, like that, they're going somewhere, we're going to. We're getting on a combi, nari omba to Lombok,

we're onba to Sumbawah, we're up to a place, nary, nary, serve spot. Because, for them it's fun. Because they have spiritual journey is traveling. If we're going to surfing, having fun, like that.

Mytow, if I'maugh, if I'maugh, but there's a umbakhs. But, but there's just a batheas pasir, not to the air. Okay. Because to become a good surfer, take years for them. Do you see them as a Sherpa? Yeah. They don't want to...

Yeah, who... ...embowlopang, right? ...and that's what I do now to my kids. Even in the more higher... higher level. If they're down when they're going to the top of the people that's about

people that are potential to make them make, what, yeah, like, pathway their pathwaying for the server is Olympic. It's prestasy. Because if with

prestasy, it brings that individual more than the other. I think like it's for the other than to be maybe one day more than the other than can't

can't look at how that'sbeau as as a pathway too. Talk about what it takes to be a broad-based server. What, the regimen's what? What?

It's, I don't know. Surfing is really, really, really easy. For you, not for me. Dude, I've tried, okay? Because this is more perspective. I've never, I'm trying. What I'm like, oh, adieu, adieu, this is this.

I'm afraid of the same. Bidibu, I'm aghacki Gungu Rhinjani. I was like, wow. That's a tough one. Yeah, and I'm like, in my mind, Gunung Rinjani is platform for mendaki to only 20 centi and it's dropped 3,000 meters.

And then so it's in your mind. But actually, you can run, you can have fun, you can do anything. Same thing, like, like, like surfing, like, the people think of people about surfing, too. Oh, do you know, it's good enough, it's hard. Berenang just, it's hard. What's surfing, this. But if we're like, like, pilah one-one, first,

you just need to walk from the beach to the water. From the water, you just need to push the board. And then you need to lay down. And then expect somebody to push. And then we're up, to be able to beaimbishop five tries, ten tries from one meter

jatto, two meter, it's repetition. So, in one day, to be able to serveing, it's guarantee. Pasti be able. But for the majority

give up. They've got to jubes. They've got to go back. They've got. There's filter. There's filter. It's also, what's, what's, what's natural selection is,

oh, this is, this is, this, this, this, this is, this, this, this, this, this is, this, this is the, there's, there's, yeah. But, what other than, what's it's all over, and reshaparant, and, and the, biggivation.

Right, equipment is one of the, the most important. Because, can, can't, because, can't, if we have financial, the financial, the, can't, financial, it's the best equipment to start with something.

Because of surfing, not perupeak way that. The biggest, the widest, the heaviest surfboard is actually what you need. From there, we can't step up, plump, plam, plen. I don't know,

yeah, belajazz surfing, that's something long. Yeah, I've been... Too natural? I'm serving... I'm over 40 years ago. I forget.

I forget. I've got... I've got to be... Because I get-you-hurted-a-hatan, what's-sare-a-tot-a-oh-can-do-it. But I'm not, you can do it. But I'm not those steps have from the first. There's some of the way. There's some, there's a day-act, there who's gawaring, like that person, see. But, yeah.

But, you know, what I'm concerned, when you're going to be a month-a-half-same-old, until now, that's kind of driving from the right now, right? Yeah, right? Because because of the people who are you not, not, so that's the time? Is it's not?

So it's about the samebaga, you're up, bouldean, duyun. Not too much an exception. Yeah. Not, not many, too, who, that's what you're making what you're doing. Yeah, not many.

Yeah, not many. Because if we, if we're, to take, uh, to, uh, can't, uh, story surfing in Bali, because it's from Bali,

surfing it's from Bali generation first to start, around 6, 9, and that's, that's, generation first serving in Bali.

There, there, there's, there, people, I'm, they've been not serving. Generation two, that they're more than I'm

with my own with me. They're serving from 7, 5, and, up 80s. Generations my generation

that generation the generation of the third the generation of the time that's still serving and the time seabaya and they're all that's given up in their

third to fifth year of their surfing so that career after I'm not a lot yeah and I'm not I don't know why yeah

many who's having because it forty one time so you can't Like that's like that's up to kind of like that's up. I sleep.

Tidur, but but it's just kind. Yeah, it's like, we're getting aching. Yeah. Like each to, oh,

the ombagna's like going to be able to be surfing, there. There's a drive to Kisana. But, but if we look, we're looking why many who's serving, yeah,

I'm like, I'm in Indonesia, only in Indonesia, there's pre-bashan, there's a parra. I don't know, the language English is what, yeah, Salah Capra. Salah Parkir. In Indonesia,

there's name of Salahra. We have a parahua. We have a person perlough. But, but the area of posisir of our people, many who can't be renang. Many who don't

I'm I'm the land. I'm the I'm the country. But if we're going to go on Australia, in California, prime location is beachfront. What is their lifestyle?

Beach lifestyle. Ocean lifestyle. They're not going to say, no one we're like we're not there. And then I'm not. And in Indonesia, there. So, maybe I'm going to

see, many, in Indonesia, why, what's about about what's about that's something that's should be done from. From, from whatever, that's, whatever, it's, there's a penderonging, if we're going to in the world.

But if, if, if, if, if, I, I don't need to doork. Maybe there, there's, I want to travel, and I want to see the world. And that's my key. I have to be good at something.

And I think surfing can take me places. I'll get there. But what I'm making I'm a bit more is that the of your people, the people in the

world in the that is that is magnet for for social social,

to to be a to the United to India to the other than the name-nama-nama like Kelly Slater, even Lewis Hamilton, that he's to Bali, to, more serving,

not going to be able to. Because he can't make-acquy the data-tarick that there in Indonesia. Yeah, right? Mm-hmm. Now, why this is not belemagicca-to-selorffered to all the men-temn-tina in Indonesia? So we've got to try, we're really

yeah, try with the bigot because if we're going to keepentingan from, from, from, this is we're talking potency,

because the potency, can asset, in Nias, there's obfack, they have had assets. So, so, the,

the, the, if we're, if we're going to talk in, tambang that's the Pemda. Pemda, the most the Pemnedah, the Pemnedah,

if we're talking to a lot of diarah, Mewa, agamak nias. Pemdana's that has been a regrat. Because, if we're talking to Nias, the province, can be in Medan, in Sumat, Rotara. They're not even,

say, let's get, we'll galking Nias. It's, but people in the people in the area Nias, they have been there. So the So the So that's the

We're going to mbaga, we're going to work with PMDA who have people who them to make majoucant

and they have what, yeah, have, got but sometimes if they're

people, they're kind of mender yeah, ah, the place we're not airport, there 8-gam, 6-gam.

But if we're going to talk about server, server not really. They're jabanin. They're not going to be able to jabanin. No matter. Taddy, Patiata, said before Kelly Slater, there's been saying,

Chris Hemsworth, you name it. Selanchard. All to be serving. Because server, it's called, name's one-track-minded. I want to go to Bali,

I want to go to Indonesia to serve. No other thing. They can't ever I want to go to Indonesia to do the other thing not perna. If we're going to surfers

they come to Indonesia in the 70-an they come as a young traveler surfing time

they bring their girlfriend in 1990 they have kids they bring their kids they're kids they travel as a young traveler in the future

this, what, nostalgic, this is a lot of course. not been putous. Not-bis-putus, because they have the connection with the wave. They're, they're going to say,

they're probably going to be banged and say, yeah, Ma'i, I served Uluatu in the 70s. Anakia, the year. In 2000, I want to go to where my dad

feel that they found this happiness surfing Uluatu. the journey's just. it's going to be able to destination. The United States never puttos, whatever happens, not can't make putoos.

There corona, people try, and try to come. There are gunung, agon, glutus, penerbangen, susa, they still come. There, there's cuributant

where, there, there, there's, there, there's, economic crisis, where they still come. They don't care. Because he knows, the wave is always going to be there. Because omacques, not going to be there.

I'm going to be sure. I'm going to be suretive the same. With amplification. So, what is what, pariwisata in Indonesia? Wow, big. That's very. Yeah, that's it from nada-a-a-a-a-a-a-oh. This, like, yeah, like, is a little amplification.

So it's like, like if we're looking like, if we're promiscation, it's just true, lewate sudut, sudut, and not the one. But this, but this low-hanging fruit, it's captive, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Now, what I'm going to ask, if this is amplification,

the number of wisetawan international, to be able to $15,000 a year to be what? If that's not from statistic, that's something that's something that's not because it can't be able to be able to. But it's not only data. Yeah, from the Naluri is. It's a far more big day, can. It's not.

Because what we've gottened is. Weissatawan that we want to be the target market. Lange of stay, long of stay, but hang. Spending power. There.

Yeah. They're not yampahua, not what's not what's not what's notepard, not what's the same thing. Yatine to Oluatu, who has a warangue, um, economic impact, who's sewined motor, the nalayan who sold to warung, the ikandahs, man, the water, the water, the waterer, the water, the water, the water, the water, the porter-bawar-slancer, the papan, selancar, the service papan, the tucang. Accommodasie. To tibre To puttah. To try to make up.

Everybody connected. So, I'm looking at Potency Surfing is something that you don't need to do much. We have it.

Just need to need to, peru what, yeah, the clola with good just. Because, because,

the name we can look at the potency Visata in Indonesia, there's there's modification

manusia. Right, Right. Yeah. This is this. Yeah. For this is a lot of concept that's the same.

If we're to do it something that really good. Like in Jakarta, there's name, Dufan, there's, there name, uh,

the name of, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, if,

if, if, if, if, if, if, if, it's,

bus, can't, it bus, bus, can't, to contain, the samepahedapest, there's the landings there,

it's always to be made this, it's always the way to beauteuartanian desinacea parwitansan. But if desinasi Visita Serving, you don't need to do anything. No need to make a toilet, don't need to make this and that.

Keep it as it is, alami. Smokin'alami, the longevity is more longifety is the longer. Smokiniti is going to find another place. reminiscing what they find before.

So, if we're the more than the if they're the people that's like Fiji, Tahiti, there's many of the city-serving that they leave it as it is they have the number of tourists that they want

always there. We're, yeah, we can't can be able to be abo dutak atik, it's a fact that there effect but there there where we're saying like Raja Ampat, don't touch it!

but and and the other than the tourism is that's like the quantity that we're doinger because if you're going to promosy-in

titic-titit-wisata in Indonesia for the penningan selancher Bali can be to be a insiduci nias to some extent where

which is that can be institutionalization can yeah this is this is this this is this is this is

this is, this is, I this is, this is, Because mypins that is surfing this. D'amon d'u'n't'u'n'n''all'n'em'n'all'g'n't. And when I was when I'm little, people who's having looked at work ah, what's in the way,

just, just nongtrong, doong, the panty, not gawang-a-bottet, at pantee. I'm not. I'm not. But,

the people are you can't even be restirat. But, but people, I'mgap, I'm not. This, this made I,

from, I've put, like, like, doongan, one day, I can make perspective of

Indonesia, that's something that's serving, it's something that's something that'slead. So, so that's a bit of a lot, Indonesia, it's, that's, that's the abutant that's from Acheh. I can't say, from Acheh. From the province Aceh,

in, the, in, the, of the city Aceh, it's only 30 minutes, it's, there's potency, the Namedna. Lo'nangani, when it's kind of tsunami, uptibu, it's about, that's about the in the infrastructure uprored, there's subotunatea, there's cumatara-a-bara-bara-baraa-a-a-pulled. And, it's a...auntas, there's a boughanthoua, there's Kulahua, there's Kulah, there's Kulah, in Gano, in Lampung. Sumatria, yeah, it's been, there's been a lot. So, I think, I think,

In the same position in the embark, PEMDAI's, I think, that's been made, it's been a desination wisata. Because, there's market-ne. Not peru-cuitary, if, there's a-one-dact-out-out-out-out-one?

People-Ombang-N-T-Wabot. So, in Jawa-Ban, Bantan, to Jawa-T-Mour, that we'rea Jhajagan, Bali, Ntb, Nt, Papua. Papua, where? Papua, in,

in, Jaya, in, Dekhya, there'sa, and in Saurong, also there. Wow. So, we're in Moraatai. Wow. We're in the Aoutan Indian, there's a loiteran pacific. If we're like,

actually, there's in the, in the Gulfwana-Natuna. If we're... Anambas? If we're... If we... There's seasonal because they're monsoon season. Because in the ocean south,

there's a bombak, past like bad day. But monsoon season is not a good season because it's wet, it's not a fun surfing destination if we're in Indonesia. Pazes, it's not the time. It's notariness. What's the swastah can do?

Pemda, inshawal. Swastah, to help out of Indonesia this is a plushanceran local and non-local. So, really, super easy, if we have the heads of swastah, we can't look at BOMN, it's, it's,

it's important thingy so. If we're talking about parwisata, swastah, if we're looking, the biggest institution that I can see is telecommunication. Big part of tourism is promotion. We're noting to Nias. Uphoria can't be happy

I want to share this moment but telecommunications they cannot share the moment on their social media because the best feeling that we can share is on the moment connectivity

Yeah so I think telecommunication is a big part of opening this new area big part of tourism The two, infrastructure. It's how to get there. It's the time of the time. I mean, I'm seeing

see that every PMDA has been able to be able to bandarra. But PMDA not has been airlines. So,

so many people, titic, titic, the, the dayerah, but penerbagan, not. So there's there's something that's link up with the carapai penerbangan because

one of the people want to get there quick They don't want to waste time Yeah Bayan from Singapore I'm expat in Singapore I only have one weekend to serve I want to go Friday to travel

From from from from to Medan I want to go to Nias But penerbangan not I don't have all day to I don't have all day to know from medan to the Sibolga,

to go to the air to sea ballade to be able to work. So, so one of the most important thing on, what to parisata

is how to get there. And, I mean, I think, if we're going to talk in about swastat, there's

there's many other things, I mean, maybe, yeah, one of the biggest thing, yeah, I don't know,

yeah. I've got to a lot of the area. Okay, like, we're not as to say but... Yeah, they're going to say to be able to do. I'm going to be able to... Lampu-watt, not y'allat. I'm not... Bukapuat, this, not...

Not baysa, right now, he'll... ...alonged with director PLN in the province, ...a... ...aily, I think, I'm... ...is, one essential. Because, I, in my... ...that...

Listricks, telecommunication, it's it's been to be a package. Fondasinesses, it's just like to polas. If there's obak, if we're not there omoback, yeah, we're going to monging to something different. You have a keyakiness. If you have connectivity, to Mentawai, or to Nias,

or to Marotai, Chris Hamsworth, Louis Hamilton, back on to that or they're like to bali oh no they're looking like something high level high level accommodation

because because we're going to be it this is really this infrastructure yeah yeah so if there's there's been a lot of serving destination to

there like nihiwatu in sumba it's high level ombakn'bucking good character character withatawan that's that's not too, people,

people who are people who are you but if we're going to until Louis Hamilton to comeentauai, it's very much even though. But they also need the schedule padatnia.

If he can'tawey surfing during the weekend, when there's slot from after he has raised in Singapore, he will go. He will go, guarantee. Because Mentawai is the Disneyland of surfing.

So everyone People want to want to want to be And one day One day is going to go serve in Indonesia Yeah, this is a person They have to go serve in Indonesia Before they die It's like a pilgrimage

That's just It's a pilgrimage That it's It's already It's already It's pasty, you know Okay Okay

This is, this It's been Yeah narrations or story line. If we've got heard that weasatawan from Australia, this is a member of the

next big wave that's from Hongk. Tjongok, that yearn't, maybe pre-COVID, he'd give him 150,000 visitors to all over the world. Yeah. Can't bea if 50,000

come to Indonesia? three of it, serving all. How do you see the future of Chinese or Chinese surfers potentially be able to Indonesia

to make medallowing object of visita. If we talk in potency withatawan from China is really, it's scary because they have the capacity.

Yeah. And buying power And buying powering good. Like Australia, like captive, yeah. The second, I see, I think it's in Hong Kong. If I'm in reality,

if I'm looking at visitawan from from China, they're going to be to beclaw with a way different. Because,

because of numbers. If, if a number, if some, I think, not can't be able to accommodate the penningmentment

their. It's not to Mantawai, to Mawai, to survey, to be able to serve me, not even be too. Terely much, or? Terely much, and they're something instant. I see. They want to see, they want to feel it, they want to go, and that's it. That's it.

It's not the same people. It will be the next gembong. There are 5, yeah, muter just this. But the repeating, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, if I'm Australia. Yeah, if I'm not suret of Tijuana, this is for example to be able to pengement

king of king of king, yeah. That's in Jakarta, who has been capacity to make wave pool. Because wave pool this can be made in the area, dairah, which is controlled. Bissor do fun do fun of it, but because, because,

because technology wave pool is there. In and out. in and out. Come with buses. The food, the wave is there. They serve, they feel it. They go to China and tell to their friends. Those friends come.

But these people who've been surfing there might not come. Because they already experienced it. Because if I'm going to the market China, it's to educate if for surfing. Because of the instant serverer's, like the zone of wave pool this. Bisa can do you do Jakarta, can do it's in Surabaya, can't do titic,

titic that international direct flight is. Because, because if we're doing jombang, yeah, not choic. Because no, not there, not choic. It's not in,

the kota, the city of the country that's right, from Jakarta Yeah, yeah, we're in the we're in the character the tourist. Yeah.

Yeah. Don't, you know, we're coming for every character of tourists. Casian we're in Indonesia. We're a negara that's been be becky with God,

jaga, don't. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's sad. What, what story that we can, what, like, legacy to our next generation, if everything is open,

For more exploitation. For me, for me, it's not something that we should exploit. It's something that we need to take care. If it's even, demand that's naik, I think everything has to be half-quota. Bali is a suburb of a world that has capacity

to But can't know, some of the bottom-hmm I don't know. But, but it's the way of them can't be able to beaugh-as-as. So, I think, for mewisata, so bignaut, we have to make a mapping, we have to be blueprint.

What do we want? Not every market is for us. That's just for us. That's a bit sad, but that's the truth. Okay. We've already This is about object

We've been about we're talking about We're not we're doing prospect to win emas in the olympiade

in in 10 years to the time? It's very There's not there. Okay. Because

because there surfing this there there a little what, yeah,

a little insight story, the only sports in the world, except the last night skating, who three jura dunya jost, then the first the Australian's men, I don't know. Yeah.

So, serving it, every athlete have 50-50 chance. If you're still in the... Regardless of ranking. Regardless of ranking. There's a chance of 50-50. Why? Because...

If Argentina, Argentina, it's a chance of Argentina, it's been made. But if... Indonesia has a chance. If you're Yawaita later, the chances is always 55. Because there's Factor that we don't even control. The nature.

Okay, ombak. Ombak. Nobody can control it. We have a time 30 minutes. Ombucking is to get into it. When the gillirang of the time it, it's not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no borgasca. It happens. So, it happens.

So, we, we're always, we're still, we're still, say, You, you, there's a lot, there's 50-some, ma'amously. So, so we're always berpegagan with that. But, in the world, the other than athletes in Indonesia isago, jago, jago. There's what, other than Rio?

Okay, give me names. In-baugh, there's been much, there's got got, there gettugus, there Bronson-Medi, there, there Nathan Johannes, there Philip Duke, There's Aditya Aditya Soma

There's a lot of I'm looking for 10 names Give me 10 names There's 7 There's much There, there Dafa, there There, there

some, there Jasper Glouce Banyak, there is, it's just in Bali just, but there's there other than.

That tier 1stu, in Indonesia. What's? Tier 1, Oh, that's junior. That's the time. Rio, um,or 22. Yeah.

Okay, which, that's about... If we were... If we were... If we're talking about the tier-near-year, yeah, I can't gettugus. There's bronzen-mede,

like that. But, but the problem... There's X-Factor that Rio has been... ...and the athlete-lain is not not-punned.

He's so focused. There are some... ...can-make it. There athlete that... ...a-gago-bank-gago-bank-a-bank-a-gago-bank... But don't have the X factor. All athletes, it's always there.

But if we're looking at athletes Indonesia have potency, it's very much. Because we're always there. I've been, we've got to gobble and over with PBB other. One of the perforages

other than other than facilitation is a place place and time. We're going to what, I don't know, yeah, maybe baseball, not softball. There's always there

the landmongan it's not community not much it's not in the water for the path for the path subpac ball community community cannot

community cannot can't be able to say we can't we're gonna buy land 10 a row we can't make lander, we can't but if we're serving

there access that we don't need access that we're I don't know maybe olaragal like bridge or what not peru not peru

chatur too not matter but if serving not not peru. Investation is zero. Swel.

The glombang that's just. Investasiness is zero. What? What can be doing to do? It's about 10

people young people so that they can get emas per rungu in the olympiado. So, this is a

one that's one that we're doing in P.B. What we can do? for athletes, to the uphaphanes, there's there's a lot of

to make sure to make them make sure professional. Because, if we're talking about ball, about, I'monging basketball America, America is I don't know, I don't know

if it's true or not, but the, the, NBA is the strongest basketball league in the world. No question about that. We're going to make, uh, sepac balla, there Premier League, there's Spaniel, Liga this,

Liga this, and Liga this and Liga this, man. because in Liga this a platform that's a lot of them build up to competitive the best way the best way is a leaguea because Liga

there's schedule in between the Pertanningan they have time to get better TANpa Liga program program this is a little abstract yeah, eh, eh, yeah, yeah, yeah, two years. But if they're, their mental strength

has been, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, , uh, uh, uh, the, uh, the, league, league, goal's, it could be world champion, it could be Olympic. So, so, yeah, if we can't be able to be able to be able to, is we have to build upend uproo. Because, Mr. Jokoy, I'm coming to say, and he's going to be able to ligament.

And this, maybe, yeah. But, but to do it. Yeah, if we're doing, this is something that, we want to be able to see something as a sub-potency

to be collaboratively with us. Because, because, I'm not, And Alaraga is one of the best way

is one of the whatever brand that you do in the world want to telecommunication, want to be in the best way. We're going to write bull. What do they do? They associate with sports. They don't associate with

other things. They have football team. They have F1 team. They have all the sportsmen. What are like, ag adventurous. Right. Right. So, right. So, right.

So, I think I'm going to develop what we want. And what can't do you want to make. Because, it's like, many potensy potentsy companies,

companies that have capacity for sponsorship or mandanai, they look something that a little out of reach. I,

I, I, I want, don't, to help outaeraguer, but the otheragherstations way down. For capacity to caputuritism

to get to very hard. But serving that to make the haraping, but we don't never been deliric. Maybe the alasance

because they're not aghap, oh, the oloragia not priority, oh, the pominatness and all things like that. Modal is,

per athlete, for he, for the Olympiada, in 5-10-10-a-10-year, what's it's about per-bun-a-athlete, or per-a-a-a-a-lactly. Yeah. With a chart, he has puttensy, yeah?

Yeah. Yeah. If I, I'm... I'm... ...Iribati, this, can, from Olympiada Tokyo, I've got to be... ...weealick,

this... ...it we've got to look ...their-the-the-ohlipy-2-3-2. We have to projectioninging 2, ...if... ...if... ...if... If 2004, it's in Paris, there's nothing we can do.

There's too too, too, too, 8, it's in LA. Olympic, that's potensically, maybe we've got to, but 2032, is the kids from 10 years now, for 232. So, we nurture them. If we're going to talk in the conversation of investi to them, What we need is maybe investasks per year

if you know, if you're going to gojointed to win in other country. I see, I see, the potential athlete until 15 years,

$10,000 to $20,000 just to give them a chance to, then if they've got to pressurried per athlete, per month. That's per year, that's a small.

But if they're, 18-toll $10,000 per year. Sorry, $10 per month. That's the For traveling. Yeah. Because traveling is the... One of the most one that's traveling.

And for the group first, there's, there's, 5 to 10? To beibitin. I mean, I see, there's around... One loo-in, maybe, 12 people.

Oh, yeah? Yeah. from six people, six this ishap. Yeah. This is really it's just kerabba, yeah,

to beaang. Very big. And this is just about some of the people people who are people who are that,

who ownership taking is there. To be a repentinkan their and the people people

people people people. Yeah. Because Everybody wins. Everybody wins. It's

of my one of the server vision, I also share knowledge of my not only in Indonesia I share knowledge of my Thailand, in Taiwan,

in China, and be a other other because I've got people people, Indonesia,

could not can be could the surrounding it's we're having a healthy competition around us us's a lot of ushala a lot of australi, but they're just to land

but in the area we have to beaughed too. How do you know team national sepac ball in Asia can't. If Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, not quite. So, so.

Competition. Competion should be in the region of our so. So, the capacity our, we have,

we're, we're going to India, it's very much, to help out of the areas of our area,

we're, we're taking to Malaysia, to help them, and bimbitan, them give them direction.

So, malha-da-negad-secitar that's learning from us. They take advantage of our knowledge, and this, and this

opportunity, opportunity will go to the other way. Apollary if China. Pick this as a sport they want to dominate. Like we've already look atang,

tank, gays, and and like, right? Yeah, right. China is a threat. And you were saying earlier the Chinese are actually practicing here. Yeah. If we're talking China,

when surfing was to Tokyo Olympic, so China, they want to become the domination, dominating nation

in any sports. When they hear, when they hear, when they hear, They're going to the Olympiada, they're like the program serving program serving their they're making

them bring a time to people in China to make up again working serving. At the time they said, I'm skeptical

so, I'm skeptical so, yeah, just they're just they're making program serving. Because, because,

in China, it's, some of the profession is landlock. But for four years, all those landlocked province, they've got got bribed bids in Indonesia. They're notang to come to this. And now, I'm not doing the right thing,

that's the right thing, that's the, I mean, if we're talking to the other than gymnastics, they've ever had madegaping medalli in gymnastics, in Olympia. China, they got a medal in the Olympic on gymnastics. Because they're the that's actually the other than adletes. It's always

for years. You will be good at it. You're good at it. And they're good at it. And that's what they do in surfing. And that's what they do in surfing. They're gajarin to athletes-atlet-neeming from

from 6-year-old from 18-year-old. Keep doing what you're doing and you will good at it. And it's proven. Because there backing up financial. If you can do all those things without any supply for, you know, nutrition, education,

the platihan, they're not going anywhere. But they're making on from government's really, really big. You can't beaugh? You can't be able to be able to be able to. Plus, athlete from Bhutan, athlete from Afghanistan. Platian in Bali, then they're who won't win olympiade. It's sad. It's sad.

I'm because because because because because because because because because because because of the bigot bigot. So, yeah, we're going to, more than, uh, because,

for, for the problem with, the decanan with financial or or kind of, it's not about what you know,

it's about who you know. Yeah. We, we don't know anybody. Yeah. We just serve. We just say hello. Hey,

is that guy? But there's a zero potential. because we're not even though we're in the but we're in Jakarta, we're more than the right people to help us. But what I'm seeing, the community surfers, it's tight-magnan. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. that's manifestation in the kind of the kind of the kind of pertemannan. Right. To do you know

it's not in the lawyote just yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're sharing the same value.

They love traveling. They appreciate the nature. They want to keep surfing on the clean ocean, clean beach. They have the same value. And for

continuing the job, journey, there's they're the they're there's little bit more than there's a little bit more than we're going to be able to be able to I'm going to be able to serving in LA yeah same, I'm going to be able to LA

from LA can't be Mexico from Mexico, to Chile, to Brazil, whatever. So they're sharing the same kind of way of life that's not that. You're not my type. There's no my type or your type in surfing. Everybody sharing the same value. Lintas, that, the country.

Yeah. Yeah. Lintas every. From Mexico, gettimore, I'm from Somalia, gettimore, in the

they're like they're like that's I'm going to be I'm going to give them my connection with them is I love reggae but I can talk to these people without talking about his culture of reggae

I can talk about surfing what kind of wave do you have in your country sharing knowledge that we all have the same frequency the same energy That that that that server, that we're that's the value that we're talking. The value that we're talking about

those energy, yeah. Last question on this as a sport. From 20-an name, that is. What, is it? Who have been really, have a plowang? Who's worth investing?

To be in Paris, or even though, or the other than the other than in 2003, for now, Paris and LA, all money is still on Rio. Okay. Rio need to get full support. Beyond Rio, that's not.

One or two, that's worth investing? Worth taking a chance? If I said, if I... This is for the audience. Yeah. Because I, I'm, because I'm not. That's about it's Yeah, jubla.

There's a There's a lot. I think 12 is a good number. 12 people. 6 girls? That's too. Oh,

to come back nurture? To be able to medalli. I think one. One. One beyond Rio. Or Rio do-oan. Right now is only

Rio. For right now. You're more for 2nd. 232, yeah? 2nd2, more potential. Potency.

What's, if you're really, focus, be ced-cure abyss, did-ducing abyss. Two girls and two boys. Wow. Not bad. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're, now, now, um, um,

um, um, um, 15 and 10 and 12. Wow. Yeah. And, not,

bali, um, the cutulan, many of the half Japanese, half American. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, that's one. But, but they're in Bali, because of Bali, because of the pathway, because industry is there equipment is up there, the time of the time when we we're still,

equipment, to know, two-torn-one-second if you're not one on Australia, there's that put-a-kind-uped-a-kind game before, and now, Okay, let's pivot.

You're now a businessman. Yeah, right? Telling, de. Jualan what, brand what? Philosophy is what? Nama brand is what? Earth Island. Earth Island.

Yeah. And then. Organic. If organic, it's, you have to have, we have, we have like a good we need to be like we need to care about

something that we create. We can't we can, what, yeah, not puttooli from where the thing is the product with, so,

so, maybe to, what, yeah, there's a word for it, more conscious product just, yeah, more conscious product,

yeah, where the idea comes from, because of the world, I go to Hawaii, I go to Australia, I go to America, I go to Europe, I go everywhere in the world. And they have always something that represent their own surf spot, for example. We want to, what, yeah,

Like in Hawaii, in Australia, there's Australia, there's Mambalver, there's biblabong in Australia, in America, there's better, when they back to Indonesia, why who's the same industry, those international brand, there's something wrong. Those people come to Indonesia,

pasting that's something that they bring back home, something that original from Indonesia as simple as that that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, my, I'm,

know, I'm, know, man, that's a good name. But, not has trademark. How did he amb- past trademark, it's,

that's been, maybe I'm gonna get-cred-offer, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, there,

there, no, there, the, the, om-bbb- Ah, not-b- not-b-b-s.

Not-b-s, There's there, there, there, there, there's something that's cool, but it's global. Omba, but not be able to, Kempark, yeah, but we're on the island too, where we are. We're an island in this one planet. I think the best planet in the world

is Earth. Because we have wave. Don't go to Mars or Pluto. There's no wave there. I don't want to go with Elon Musk. No way. There's no wave there. I'm not going with them. So,

Earth Island, it's, yeah, philosophy's more than. So, we're doing. So, we're doing people who, that's not, we're going to be able to make sure if we're taking, it's not a sticker in papana, it's making me believe

boost. Oh, I got sponsored, like that. Productions, where? As a big of the city, in Bali, all, see.

Yeah. There's in the world country? No, In Indonesia? 100% This is 100% in Indonesia. Make what?

Merchendise just Just for now, just t-shirt, slana surfing, bagu, hats. So, product is still limited because

because we're like to- to-go to-kongue. Toko-koy-in-in-in-a- it is I want to make a destination

surfing in Indonesia. So, the people to Bali, what I can't, what's going to Bali, they can go to culinary in Bali, like, we have everything for the culinary, to eat Italy, to Japan, to anywhere, but in Bali, but in the United, even Japan, so that's about it's about it's about by the bala but in balaaciannaw

if you have what I'm going to be ablechia there, but I also think the people who get down to Bali they need to understand surfing is a big part of this island come to Earth Island you learn

at there we're also, we're also we also there library, there book we've got a book history about surfing There's cafe there's there's we're having to make education about surfing to the place we're at Earth Island

without bragging like this is the best shop in the world no it's not but we want to become like we want to become like a global brand people know about Indonesia surfing I want them to understand Earth Island is part of... Do you feel it? Is it globalizing?

Yeah, I think so. I have to have to faith because there's a brand in Amsterdam. I know you have the faith, but do you feel it already? For this, serving. Not. My brand. I think so. Okay.

My partner is global. He's from the world of the world. I think it's global. What's the next milestone? For this. For my brand? Yeah, man. I want to probe on this on your brand.

The next thing is collaboration. with other big brand. The only reason why Palace, the only reason why Supreme are beyond their skating foundation, because they do collaboration. They collab with, I don't know. First, they maybe collaborate with musicians, with DJs, who knows. And then they

end up collaborating with Louis Vuitton, for example. So I think collaboration is a big part. The small thing is collaboration with the surf community for us first. And then Beyond that, we're looking for global partnership for collaboration with whoever. We don't know. Because this is great brand local, that's making the keypentingan local and buddhaia local.

The underrated. Yeah. Yeah, can? Cabang, elaragga, that underrated. That's where the pran is, it's been a big to come to the people from the world. Yeah. because,

I think I'm in fact that's surfing, we have everything. If we have the Bally we have the surf food, we have the surf accommodation, we have the surf facility, whatever. We go to California, there's even thing called surf music. Do you have everything?

I don't know if you, in any other sports, do you have a... No, no, chess music. No, there's a... No, there's a... Serfing has. everything it's almost like capture a lot of things and this is something that that's something that's not there's not there's the

destination like that's just so yeah there's has a lot of you know what I've done for promosic can serving yeah I'm actually, company that's who's who's

about serving. so we're doing so much the time 2001. At the in Bali, there's

very much there there's serving. So, I'm think, adoh,

I have for event, me, for people, the people in Bali, in Indonesia,

so that's like, like, there's spotlight for them. Company can measure their, eh, this is the givera? He can't getcha 10,000 per month. So, there's measuring meter. Alasance why company this I did, the way the company this is for that. But, long-clam, from 2001, until now, we've already running World Championship Tour in Indonesia.

There's about five events, from the Kramas, the Uluatou, and the last in Gaghan, the Gaghan, we're doing event in Taiwan, in Maldives,

the, in China, in Malaysia, in Thailand, in Korea. So, the company I have a movement

in Asia, the namemaging Surfco. Asian Surfcoe this, we've made because, because we're

not there's we're not deliric, so, so, so company this It's

Now, Asian One of our mission is to work with a lot of stakeholders. Apaka they're PEMDA, do you know, corporate company who made sure

in the area of their, who have potential to activate the community there. So, our company is almost like the engine to keep this sports going. So this is the mission of the

the Asian Surfco. Selain PEMDA, the stateholder line. There's self-industry, there PMDA, there Kementryan, there corporation,

there community, there kids, professional, everybody. That's our ecosystem in EAC. So far, how? ownership taking. What is that? What is that?

What is that? What's that? Really high. We're really high. We're, to come back to make a one of a

olaragia that has had the name um, uh, accelerations for serving skills of an athlete is to give them instant information while they're still in their

competition. What I'm trying to say is, jama'amun d'u'all. If I'm You score you see the score. So that's one of the one of the because we're not being bodoie their way of the way that's backward. So, the getelibatant stakeholder to the AAC movement is 100% full support. If I can feel it,

many sounds, swaras suras umbang, because they're not happy, but so far we just keep doing. Consistency will take you where you, wherever you want. This is for the Indonesia just as a regional

involvement in the regional but for Indonesians need because other need to be strong to make us strong

This is this this is really part of budae and country Yeah complete the circle for us

That's a part of spiritual. Bucan perjalan atletous, perjalan apap. Then, from 5 years, up to 4,6, made up-lang buanna, now, has been boughed toco to promote product in the country

that kental with buddaya local, but also ramalinkungan. Ispacalization of Pacti, because of the because of the other than I'ma being a lot of Indonesia I'm being around the people of Indonesia.

And I think Indonesia always be in Indonesia for 2000 years not like has a problem with because Indonesia is really there's really not a problem we can't do something. We can't We can't

We can't We can't We can't make sure We can't As a lot of people can Don't be a lot of Because we're gonna'nation Because we're

Because, We're We're We're percaya We're to We're to be We're looking It's a banksaeerer, we're backerer

not in the other so much sysayanked. I'm quite I'm quite I'mant, uh, audiencey in Jakarta there's there's,

but India is not Indonesia is a country tuiting nothawai I'm just the way it's just like

intellectual or as far as far goblok goblok can if if they're intellectual I have used javasin. Bahawaii

that's just only three months. Only during winter season from November to January. In other it, ombagia is flat in Hawaii.

In Indonesia, we have all year around. So there is no question if any other country bigger than Indonesia. No, there is no any other country in this world that's bigger than Indonesia. To be more.

want to bea indonesia. There's about there's been banding Indonesia. Because character Indonesia, we in the

world, in the, we, we are a suburb Catholic Tiwa and unique.

Not the people who are being here. This is the creation. If we're being made this,

we're always banged, don't, don't waste it, don't, don't, don't, don't,

don't, don't, this I'm about serving. Not that's not going to be about if we're going to be able to from the Pras from Puerto from Rotay

this is something asset not peru we're trying to find a emas that has to sell slurry to go to another. We don't have to do anything casian just if we're

just to make to make the world inundas, while we have the money, and we have to be able to make up, and it can't be able to make upholinging and better, can't be able to beacquotamian that more than the other pesisir. The number of Indonesia,

the person persisir, is the people that's the lastoramines renda. And that's make me sad. And that's what happened with me when I was five years old. People look at me, eh,

what's why in you do Panty, surfing, do'l'clock, you? no, no, no other, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's make who, that drove you. Yeah. And that's make me, like, have this drive until now. People want to ask about surfing, I just abandoned. If you're going to be in life, oh, that's not my part.

You guys do what your part? Wow. Yeah. You know, that, that captures, what, yeah, essencey from the country of our country. Yeah. as a big of Indonesia. And, and what I like is,

you bleed it. You live it. Yeah, right? If you're like, you're going to be able to be it, it's like, this is your sovereignty. This is your godality.

And this is, it's not going with the country we're. And we're so much can, what, yeah, projectsick can

soft power. It's allure the other than the other than we have. There's no other than we have this one of the other than we've it's proven, it's a fact ask anybody in the world.

Let me paint a picture for you. In 2004, Indonesia, can get a time 150 jutsu-witouisat-a-wit-wisat-wan-asing by-bending 15-gut Pra-COVID. Yeah.

2005, from 20032, turut-turb, too, we're too-a-o-olympi-a-do and the jueraned in the world. Mo medallimas, ke, kei-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-poh. Possible, not possible? And you wouldn't regret it. That's only 155-juta usitawan-a-a-sing to Indonesia,

Because of the day-I'mat-taregamesia as... I'm not going to regret it. I'm not regret, can't? It's e-emassan, right? Yeah. Because, in 2004-5, there technology. Yeah. I mean, has to have wave pool.

Yeah. Don't Bali just. Sulawesi, Kalimantan. Dara, dera, that not there that not even... They have potential. Technology is there. Even when people can't To be able to Komenadeghur

To be able to be able to beaithful Yeah, the potential is there But, but Yeah, but what we want If we're talking about Prestation, I can't about something that's the same thing Because serving can surfing can't

Alaragang, we've got Perestation At least, at least There, there's a lotlete I think I'm not we're about perspective if I'm not

I'm not know about Bung Karno who pernong one of the one one's one the song the country

being the the the country that the athlete Indonesia is perist in

the endang Duny so so the resident that's to as

Tamu in the other The other than I'm not there. If I'm inundasia India is quite wadip to make-draget our country with

Ola-Raga We're waging We're up to be We're gonna be a national Indonesia, because team

Sepa Bola Indonesia Pernahua Indonesia ever the world Yeah Argentina they're very banga, they're very much more than Maradona.

They're who'sia. They're not like, they're sports? They're not there's ever played in the jueranguania sepac ball? I know, but still in the

bowing of the West Indies. But what in the front of the matter is, only there are there a bitabanker a loteraguer just, blue tankis,

panahan, up-bats, and it's slantir. The other than that prospect, but more has more than the longer. Yeah. It's more than it, this is there in the part of the matter

and slantar, too, we can produce the four-nama, for two two two in atas Rio. Yeah, right? Tipi. We, we've,

we've got complete the circle, this, the perjalan spiritual, and from the um, Maybe I should ask you this. What you would you have done differently? From the age five years from now. What I would do differently, yeah?

Would you have become a painter like your father? No. I wouldn't change anything for surfing, yeah. Wow. Because I don't know. Would you die as a surfing? My friend just died as a surfer like a couple of days ago. And he died as a legend.

Wow. No, but I don't want to die now. I have kids. I mean, I'm not saying, you know, I'm a personer that's legendaryist in Indonesia. That would be a cool hashtag. I don't know, yeah. I cannot stamp anything on myself.

I just want to do good. I just want to touch people and, hey, T.P., I understand what are you trying to say. I understand what are you trying to do. It's enough for me. I don't want to be, I want to be a legend, it's that. It's up to people, whatever they want to say. If I say, everywhere that I go, all I talk about is surfing.

I don't know why. Because I see every single human that I see in Mantauai, like in dao, young and they're not doing surfing. Because of a sudden, he had putiansy. surfing, there's a serving, whatever, because surfing, because surfing,

a profession. You can become a chef. A surf chef. You can become like a wellness industry. You take care of the wellness of the surfing, the surfers. Whatever, musician, you can play

play for the lifestyle. There's enough like a music fest that In Byerang, you know, you know, whatever, whatever. So, so it's a profession. You don't have to become a professional surfer. You can become anything. So, because sometimes I look at people who have potential.

Because there's a lot of day. Yeah, I'm doing surfing there. I go to. I donate. And when I'm donate, I think that moment people capture that I'm donating this. So other people doing the same thing. They also donate.

because donating of development. because there's hard on the Pappan. Right. Right. Whatever I do. I just want to... I don't know.

I think of racunin them surfing. Because there's more good than bad. I don't know. If I'm playing music, I know, I'd be able to guitar just. But let me ask you this.

Surfing, this is. Serving is, the universal. Would you regard surfing in Indonesia as serving

better thaning surfing that's serving that's Puerto Rico, Mexico Hawaii, Japan, anywhere, would you

regard surfing in Indonesia as if it's that is serving with Indonesian characteristic? Very much.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because in Indonesia, we have to have buddaya, we have culture, we have character. In Indonesia, we have,

there's deva, there's Dewa-Dha-Law-Kidul, that is that's, as a person, the other in the other than

there. In Australia, not there, the name's, like, Dewa-Law-Law-S, not. Muckin,

maybe in Guatemala or in Dada-D-D-D-L, Maybe there is there. this is something that we are rich on. It's obakia good. Buda y'n't really. What's the way. I must have to say what?

I'm going to say, but we're going to be, paguta. Kind of like, ah, ah. It's true, it. It's really. I don't know what to do, but, but the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the,

but I'm going to stop. Surfing this is going to trotasies, there's a economy. Economy is going to help the prestation. Prestation is

making what we want. I don't know. I was asked to ask politicus, that's to go to that's going to

my part. But if you're not my part. But if you see you see you serve, what he said I'm first

one thing for sure. He'll be a lot of you're very you're very lucky you're very lucky. You live in Indonesia the best place in the world to be a server. That's the first thing.

Lucky. Right. It's enough for us to realize what we have that we have. That's we take for granted. Take for granted.

I've got to three Mr. Mr. Mr. about the same thing. Surfing, don't, un-kart. Oh, not-bisage. Serving, can't be a priority.

Okay, not, help, don't, surfing, is there in-manyahs, in scale of priorities of ari-wisata? Oh, surfing, to turn-outesu-nata-bahary. Oh, Wisata-Bahari, is where, positioning? Positioning.

If we're going to talk about positioning, Where we want to be. oppositioning is serving is okay, Indonesia's not question about that. In about culinary, okay, we have a lot of good food. In about, what, what, what, what that,

no question about that. But in the Wisata Bahari, we're not priority, Pat Tipi. Atas'aughting, it's there's there's there's there's diving, but on the atasnation, it's a lot of mancing. For me, like, come on. Mancing, not be able to do you make sure to be able to do get into some agenda promosy for Visata.

Everybody is mancing, you know, if it's bavisar. So something that put me like... It's such a no-brainer. Yeah. We don't want to make film Avengers. Chris Hamsworth, Datteng to come to this. Yeah.

Pouan-a-Polouan. Yeah. Lewis Hamilton, Datteng to come to this, Pouan, in Uluwatu a month. Yeah. So, so

brainer, okay, like, we're Okay, la, we're amplification narration this in a waygarten. Yeah. Yeah, right? Yeah, right. And,

I'm surely, but surely, this will be heard. Mudah, we're gonna. This is great about, discussion spiritual. Yeah,

there, there, there, there, there, there, Pesan, Pesan, I have nothing

against Mancing. I love Mancing. I'm not so. I'm notharmaties. But I'm going to make sure of course. And this, if I'm in front I'm underappreciated.

And this is very able to be redayalcan to make up what upon that that's positive for we can. Yeah,

maybe the pesan the I was, at the because we're the other we're always we're always

we're always connect one of the one one of the first of the person that I want to we're injaga alam we're

only there in Indonesia though we've got there name Ocean View House view-house view it's they're to the land

not to the the water's the out of the out of the they're the watered amaz land-termontam-smu, all that's going to adept to the janehia but in the world country, perspective they're back.

Ocean view is something that they can enjoy they can't cutorin. So, muddhawn we're there, there, there there, there, there, there's a problemer samplah with good and benar. Because this effecting to us. Wisata, big

big factor the because of the bestisanship. Yeah. If we're not nice, spectacular because in

Indonesia, there's been there Naraai is a place in Indonesia. If you're in the world

country, Naurai is a million dollar view. Yeah. And, some of sampeh from aller from from

river, and every the water, every light, the world's potency, namely serving potential. If we're puttonsie, our future to be Olympian, and the place he russo, because of

people, this is there who's been wrong to be job. Because not, not we've got to be potency, but be disusack by the manusiness

itself. So, the person I'm, maybe to the time. Let's take care. Jaga Indonesia, to keep Indonesia, keep Indonesia to be always Indonesia.

We don't want Indonesia to become as simple as that. Apapot all the way. What is that my word? Everyone has perspective with words with words. But Indonesia in the 70s. Indonesia in the 60s.

Indonesia in the 60s. So, before Maséhi. That's Indonesia. The real Indonesia. Maken longer than to the future. Indonesia is making hellen. Yeah. The kind of the besthandshihan,

we need to always identify Indonesia as Indonesian. Don't even to be around not Indonesia. Bucan, not means we'll be able to learn from people, but keep Indonesia as Indonesia. Indonesia has value.

Indonesia has richness of everything. That's my person. Amen. Yeah, that's my word of all. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, Not, not many,

who are people who are you know, who's about serving 1, 30 minutes, 20 seconds. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Tuman,

that's the Pia Bricelan, Cran, very Indonesia. Thank you. This is end game. You don't want to have... You striked me as a guy who would die as a server.

You wouldn't die as a game. Please don't die. I'm going to be sentfer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, political science. I guess like that, but I'll be research, just something. Okay. So, thank you, Santa.