Epic Real Estate Investing - Hey Agents! How to Get Listings & Dominate Your Market | Alina Schumacher | 1024

Episode Date: May 20, 2020

In today’s episode, Matt is rejoined with Alina Schumacher, a coach, a host of The Alina Show Podcast, and the author of the recently published book, How To Get Listings & Dominate Your Market. Apar...t from talking about the current crisis and its impact on the real estate market, Alina reveals the framework of her new book that will help you get a better understanding on how to become the #1 Go-To trusted & referred local agent! Tune in and find out more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:37 Here's Matt. Hey, Epic Investors. It's Matt Terrio from Epic Real Estate, where we show people how to invest in real estate with an emphasis on retiring early. This is the Epic Real Estate Investing Showing. If it's your first time here. Glad you found us. Make yourself at home.
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Starting point is 00:01:08 A returning guest. We've had two returning guests this month as we continue to explore a new world that we're moving into. And hopefully it's temporary, but maybe it's not. So we have to prepare for both. Our guest today helps real estate agents to strategically become the number one go-to, trusted and referred local agents in their market and do it fast. It helps them systemize and scale their business the right way so that they have the freedom and quality of life that they've always wanted.
Starting point is 00:01:37 She's also the host of the Alina Show podcast on iTunes, Spotify, Google Player, or Stitcher, wherever you're listening to your podcast. And she's got a new book out, How to Get Listings and Dominate Your Market, even if nobody's ever heard of you. And she helps you in the book, Master the Ten Skills of World Class Agents, and live the life of your dreams. So please help me welcome back to the show, Ms. Alina Schumacher. Hey.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Right? Ashley, absolutely. Thank you so much, Matt. I appreciate that. I just didn't put the mystery. The intro. Welcome back. Good to see you.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Thanks, Matt. Thanks for having me. Yeah, absolutely. Couldn't wait until we had this. We had a couple blips, but now here we are. So tell me, Alina, you are in, we don't need to go over your whole story again. People can go back to that episode and listen to it. But you're in Canada, right?
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yes, sir. And you coach agents. Is that just in Canada or is that all over the world? Surprisingly, most of my coaching students are actually in the state. So I have a mixed bag against, but, you know, quite a few of them are in America. Got it. So as of us recording this right now, we've been in lockdown here in the States for about eight weeks now. I think we just passed our eight week mark.
Starting point is 00:02:51 How has business changed for you? And what are you doing about it? Well, that's a really good question to start it off. I got a bunch of them, so get ready. It kind of hit me right the week. You know, it's interesting because you and I, when we spoke the first time, I had launched my book digitally. And I've been working on rewriting.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I probably rewrote about 70, 80% of the content, restructured it, really found my voice over this last year, worked so hard to get it going on Amazon. And guess what Matt, the week that it's launching on Amazon, that world shut down. I mean, what's the chances, right? And so I kind of did more of a soft launch. I couldn't really do too much
Starting point is 00:03:32 because everybody's mind was on something different and something else, right? So, and I didn't want to be tone deaf. So for the past, you know, months and I have been working with my existing clients. I've been kind of putting stuff out there. I've been hosting tons of webinars and just kind of providing as much free training as possible to just, you know, be cool, be helpful, you know, and just meet people where they're at right now, which is a lot of them are in the mindset of fear, right?
Starting point is 00:03:58 And it's very easy to focus on that. And you and I already both know that fear is a virus all in and of itself, right? Yeah, potentially more. deadly. 100%. Yeah. So 100%. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Well, okay. So, yeah, it's interesting how many life events for people will never happen now because of this. You know, just because, you know, graduations and retirements and, you know, I think about all the sporting, all the athletes that were on their last season and they didn't get a proper retirement or those that are making a transition from college to pros and very sports oriented but it's so tragic and you know you go ahead and you got all this plans to launch a book right and all of a sudden it gets thwarted and we had a pretty big live event initiative we're going to
Starting point is 00:04:51 take our our education on a big massive scale and as soon as we had two events and then all of a sudden this live event business was not the business to be in right so it's just and it's impacted so any other ways. That's just my small little world and what I see. I can just imagine everybody's got their own version of that story. But, you know, we got no control over it. All we have is control over how we react, right? So business for agents, really, I see on the news that everyone is doing virtual tours of their houses now. And are you recognized the same thing or is that just media stuff? It was interesting. It's really different in different provinces and states. I have students where they're completely locked down. They weren't able to do anything. My daughter just bought a house
Starting point is 00:05:32 last week, you know, and I know they've been shopping and looking at houses this entire time. And so I guess it's different in every state and province, but, you know, California, I hear there's still lots of sales and people are selling virtually, as you say, in other states as well. So, you know. Right. Have you noticed, you know, in real estate, as we both know, is local, but have you noticed any adjustment at the retail level in prices or average days on market, anything like that? Well, from what I can see, and I obviously don't know everything in every market,
Starting point is 00:06:05 but what I can see here is inventory is obviously much slower. Spring brings about so many new listings, and you can see people are reluctant and whatever is on the market because of people's circumstances in situations, or they were already listed, you know, it's stuff sitting and isn't moving as quickly as it would typically at this time, right? But I do think that things are starting to change. I feel like there's this fresh, almost like people are starting to get a little bit of oxygen again after suffocating for such a long time, you know? I feel like there's things are happening.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And of course, you know, things are opening again. Maybe it's because people are finally able to get a haircut. I don't know. Right. Yeah. It's funny how many days in a row I now wear the same clothes. I probably shouldn't have revealed that. But yeah, just weird things.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Like, you know, you get out of your habits. You get out of your routines and you start doing different things. Yeah, it's so true, which is actually one of the reasons, as we're recording this, not sure when people are going to listen to this, but I just started a 21-day personal power challenge with my realtors exactly for that because of the bad habits that we've, I feel like most of us have acquired, right? And so what we're working on right now was the realtors is every day. We're working on one specific habit.
Starting point is 00:07:25 and the next day we're adding another one. We're coming together every day in a Facebook group and exchanging. And it's like I just feel like there's hope. And I feel like just listening from every realtor in different parts of the North American world here. You know, I feel like things are changing and moving, even just inch by inch, but things are definitely progressing in the right direction. Yep. God willing.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Hopefully we continue to go forward and don't have to take any more pauses. Amen to that. I have real estate agents that listen to my show, but it's predominantly real estate investors. And, you know, over the last few years, maybe several years now that I'm thinking of something, I've been saying this for a while, that, you know, the investors haven't had a whole lot of success
Starting point is 00:08:10 at the retail level because the demand has been so high and a listing gets put up and there's five offers within 24 hours. And so agents haven't really had a need to, deal with investors, the investor-type buyer. And I think that's going to change. I think listings will be sitting longer, and I know as being a former agent myself, that no one likes to have a listing sit, right?
Starting point is 00:08:37 You're spending money on the marketing, and you're holding open houses and the sellers on your back. So do you see that dynamic changing from your end? You know, I'm not sure. If you're asking if prices are going to come down slightly and sellers are going to be motivated to accept potentially lower terms and a lower of, I'm not exactly sure on that. I guess that, again, it is local.
Starting point is 00:09:00 What I see is we came into this extremely strong, right? It was such a shortage of listings. And the reality is I personally believe that most of this is deferred and delayed, not necessarily lost. You know, I think especially coming out of this, because so many people have taken their business, you know, if you're fortunate enough to be able to work for, home. They've taken it home, you know, and I think coming out of this, a lot of people are going
Starting point is 00:09:24 to realize, hey, you know what, I love working from home, but this house is too small. And I think, you know, some people will have to upsize, downsize, move across town, move out of province. I think quite a few people are going to move out of province as well because they've seen political influence, you know, and you're going to have to kind of just follow your, you know, your beliefs, right? And I think, I think there's going to be a lot of moving happening once people are back to more or less freedom. And I think that is going to bring the real estate market faster than any other sector, I think in the marketplace.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I think real estate's going to be the first one to bounce back. So is it going to be good for investors? Here's the deal. It's just like Warren Buffett says. You know, when the tide goes out, you can see who's been skinny dipping. And there's going to be some people who are going to have to sell because they've
Starting point is 00:10:09 been skinny dipping and now they're exposed. And there's going to be investors going to come and pick that up, right? If you're ready for opportunity when it comes, well, good for you. If not, now is the time to prepare. Mm-hmm. Okay. I got that. So let's try this on for size because I've got another way to look at it.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So in your opinion. Okay. All right. And I remember being a real estate agent. We were always super optimistic, right? I do agree with you on one, because we didn't want it to end. It was always like we don't want to, it's always so good. But the one thing I do agree with you is I think there's going to be a lot of real estate
Starting point is 00:10:44 exchanging hands, right? And you said upsizing, downsizing, selling out of necessity, selling out of desire, selling out of convenience. Essentially, it's the same thing, yeah. Right, right. But the volume, I think, is going to increase. So I think things are going to, right? So that I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And so you want to be in the middle of that. Whether you're an agent or an investor, that's how we make our monies, get in the middle those buyers and sellers. The other part of it that I'm thinking about is the world freaked out about this, particularly in America. and that's what I see on the news. I actually don't know anybody personally, so I don't know if I'm being manipulated by the media
Starting point is 00:11:20 or if this is an actual fact. But no, I've seen it at the supermarket, so there's evidence of it. But people are a little bit more freaked out about this than I thought they would be. Right. And so I'm concerned about the consumer confidence. I think someone like yourself is an agent,
Starting point is 00:11:39 myself as an investor, we're in the industry. We're not so freaked out about getting back into business and buying and selling on what we do. But I feel like general consumer is going to be a little bit slow to get back their confidence. How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:11:53 I do agree with that because here's the deal. If you want to control people, we have seen this in history. If you want to control people, you can control them. Either with fear or was giving them hope. And unfortunately, people are more motivated by fear than by hope, right? You can unfortunately move bigger masses by, you're right? in the name of trying to protect them. And I feel like that's what's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:12:18 There's a lot of, unfortunately, and I don't know how to nicely phrase this, but the news network in my humble opinion, the news network and my humble opinion is grossly, grossly misleading the public right now in the name of money, in the name of getting eyeballs on their particular shows. And it's so interesting for me because I am in Canada, and Canadians just have a little bit of a more, you know, neutral approach to things, right? And you can see, I was scrolling through my feed yesterday.
Starting point is 00:12:50 No, I was the day before yesterday. And I see two of the same videos. It was Fauci being interviewed. And it was this whole Ron Paul, you know, telling Fauci, hey, you're not the end of all, Mr. Fauci with all due respect, blah, blah, blah, right? And literally, it's in my feed. The one, the one is coming from a democratic worldview. The other one is coming from the Republican worldview. One of them says Fauci just shut down Ron Paul. And the other one says, Raan Paul just shut down and the funny thing is you can literally go and substantiate whatever you believe
Starting point is 00:13:20 in unless of course you dig a little deeper and once again you know it's going to be very evident probably what side I'm on it's hard to hide it right because I'm an entrepreneur I've lived in socialist country I grew up in communist Russia so I'm a capitalist
Starting point is 00:13:36 and I'm a proud capitalist right so I believe in the free enterprise I believe in being an entrepreneur and an opportunity and I will never be shut down for that. But, you know, like, it's interesting for me because those particular two interviews, if we want to talk about that, one of them was the entire interview and you could watch the whole thing and you can guess what side of the party was presenting that. The other one was just little bits and pieces and it looked really appealing and very convincing if you didn't
Starting point is 00:14:06 know what he said right after, right? And here I am looking, I'm not even an American citizen, right? and I'm looking at this and I'm like, this is brainwashing. This is not even the truth because I just watched the entire interview, right? And so it's just, yeah, you know, one of those. So you can get really, you can get really passionate about it and what happens is people are just controlled by that, right? I stopped watching the news probably about three or four years ago because I would get so upset at it. And I started watching again since we've been in quarantine because I want to be kept up to date with the virus. but I get sucked in with all the other stories and now the different angles and I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:14:43 oh, this is why I stopped watching the news. But yeah, no, I'm right there with you. Here's the other thing that I'm looking at. And I just, I got this is firsthand, well, secondhand or would be firsthand? First hand of information from one of my clients. One of my clients is married to a real estate agent and works for Keller Williams. And Keller Williams has advised their agents, at least in that office. I don't know if it's company-wide or not, but at least in her office, to start brushing up on their
Starting point is 00:15:12 creative strategies of how to sell houses and how to buy houses. And I thought that was very interesting because that's what we've been talking about here for the last probably 45 days because that's the type of market that we're going into. And I know you deal on the retail level. So our point of reference is very much on the wholesale level, the off-market level. But I thought it was very interesting that they came to validate the things that I've been saying by Keller Williams is suggesting to all their agents to if they want to close more deals when we come out of this to start getting a little bit more creative, which has always been very
Starting point is 00:15:44 anti-agent comment. Right, but what better way to do that than on Facebook, right? You just grab your phone and you start, you know, broadcasting to your ideal audience. Right now, it's easier than ever to understand what everyone is afraid of and what everyone is hoping to get to. And you start speaking to their fears, you start answering the questions they have, in their mind. Just like I'm teaching realtors, it's no different for real estate investors and say, hey, if you're a real estate, if you're a homeowner in this particular area and you're thinking of
Starting point is 00:16:13 selling your home, you're thinking of moving to a different area and you would like to get a whatever, right? Just like that, it's so, so simple to create content, super short videos, run some ads to that, create audiences, remark it. And my goodness, if there's ever been any better way to be creative in marketing, now's the time. And now we have the options and it's so cheap, right? I have a whole chapter on that in my book. Mm-hmm. Right. We'll talk about the book in just a second.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I can't wait. The, that threw me off. See what you did to me? Good. Bad host. All right. So I think you and I are both bullish on the real estate. I think we might have a little bit of a difference opinion on how fast it recovers,
Starting point is 00:16:57 but I think it's going to be just fine. Either way, what do you think are the big risks headed over the next six months? What are the big risks over the next six months? You know, I am such an optimistic person. I think the biggest risk we have right now is for people to still dwell in wrong predictions. I think if there's anything ever been done in terms of injustice to society is all of these wrong models and wrong predictions. Yeah. That have unfortunate a long-term impact on society.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And just as you just said, you know, yes, consumer confidence is probably going to, to you and that's probably the only thing. I'm not sure if you can call that a risk, but that's going to just hold things for a little while, right? But at the same time, you know, I'm assuming that the people are following you are not so much motivated by fear. They're more motivated by risks. They're more motivated by taking advantage of opportunities, right? And so when other people are a little, you know, on the fence about taking action and things start to open up, well, this is when your people go in and snap them and snatch up the great deals, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Because, I mean, look at the financing.
Starting point is 00:18:04 terms right now. It's incredible. Yeah. It's just incredible. What we have right now, it's, it's amazing. I think there's never been a time where a proof for nobody has a crystal ball has ever been more evident. Of course. Because the models and the charts have just been so grossly off. And as of today, watching the TV, they're making this prediction over the next six months
Starting point is 00:18:28 off the new model that they have. I'm like, well, why should we believe that one when your last dozen have been completely wrong? And the reality is this is not the first coronavirus. It's not the second coronavirus. There's been plenty of coronaviruses. And the interesting thing is that we had an influenza in 2017, which had a mortality rate of 7%. It killed a lot more people, and nobody shut down the world over that.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Right now, we have more people dying of flu. In fact, right now we have more people dying of the secondary effects of COVID-19 and not actually of COVID-19. I mean, if you want to go into the numbers, you want to look at what they're actually reporting, a COVID-death. You know, that's a conversation in and of itself, right? And that's where I'm starting to lose confidence in the government or whoever is governing the medical associations because, like, I don't know, it almost feels like they want this to last longer. There I said, I said it out loud and it's...
Starting point is 00:19:16 It's okay. Don't apologize for your opinion. Out of the world now. No apologies aloud here. Speak what you feel. Seriously, right? I mean, you look at those... As long as you don't condemn other people for the way that they feel, that's all.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Oh, my gosh. No. But isn't that the beauty, though? Isn't that the beauty of a free speech and, you know? the expression of being and then the ability of being able to debate and accept each other. And right, like, it's when you start to think that your opinion is to be all and all and everybody else needs to be shut down and censored and removed from YouTube and removed from Facebook, right?
Starting point is 00:19:50 That's when we're having a bit of a problem, which I'm seeing right now. So, interesting. Yep. So based on that, in marketing is kind of how we met. you've got the new book out and it got paused or at least interrupted a little bit when the virus came out. So it's out now though because you're holding up a physical copy or is that the only one? No, no, I have it. You can get it on Amazon.
Starting point is 00:20:15 It's been on Amazon since the beginning of March, I think March 5 or something. So whenever we were told to stay home. Right. How to get listings and dominate your market, even if nobody's ever heard of you. Which is my story, which is my story. I got it. And I think it's a book for agents that absolutely should probably resonate with our near all of them, right? Because nobody's heard of most agents.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Right? Okay. So the book, Subtitles, Master the Ten Skills of World Class Agents and Live the Life of Your Dreams. Can you pull out one skill there that someone could implement or start working on today that would have almost an immediate impact? Yeah, all of them are going to have that, but definitely. Can I quickly, instead of saying the one skill, can I give you the framework first? Sure, absolutely. And maybe what prompted me to rewrite the content?
Starting point is 00:21:07 Okay, yes, absolutely. Because it was always 10 skills. Okay. Right? It was always 10 skills. And so when I wrote this a couple years ago, but I was coaching a group of guys last year, and we were going through stuff, and we were just, and I was just seeing how they were hitting a wall, and they didn't understand the market domination plan in and of itself, right?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Because I'm telling them here, this is the plan. We do this. We do this. We do this. We do this. And they're like, well, I'm still not getting it. I'm like, okay, look, it's almost like, it's kind of like. And then I, you know, I unknowingly did pull the Russell Brunson, where Russell Brunson has
Starting point is 00:21:45 his little Epiphany Bridge thing, right, where he said it's kind of like, right? And it's almost like you're trying, like, you know, when you start in real estate, what's the first thing they tell you to do? go prospecting, get a website, get some business costs. Here's the phone book, start down. Exactly. Tell everybody you're in real estate, right? To which everybody's going to say, oh, yeah, you know, yippie, Skippy, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:22:04 list with you. Of course, you got no experience, but who cares about experience, right? And that's the thing. And that's why most agents, you know, really, I believe, fail in business because they jump into stage two and three. I believe there's four stages to the real estate business. There's the host. There is the venue.
Starting point is 00:22:20 There's the invitation. And there's the experience. I'm like, picture, it's almost. kind of like you're trying to invite people over to a dinner experience and you ain't got a stove in your kitchen. There's no curtains, right? You can, you got no flooring in yet. You know, you're not dressed properly as an actual host and the doorbell rings and you're trying to get people in and there's nothing on the table, right? And when I told me- It was like my college, my college apartment.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And and, but that what happens, right? You know, like you, you might even be able to get a couple of leads that way, right? You're going to be the quantity model. That's when your realtors are working on. But the reality is that you're going to provide them as an average experience and you're going to be continuously trying to reinvent the wheel. Whereas if you work on yourselves first and you work on becoming the absolute best, and in the book, I'm giving them an actual plan. Here's what you do every single day. Here's, you know, like step-by-step action plan to answer your question on the habit, right? Here's the kinds of questions to ask. Here's how to understand human behavior. Here's what I do when I meet with a for sale by owner or with a listing or with a buyer prospect, right?
Starting point is 00:23:26 And then you work on that. And then you go to the next stage, right, and you prepare your venue, quote unquote, right? You make sure your brand is sharp. You make sure your message is clear. I'm teaching a concept which is called the one-liner where you tell people very quickly, what should you do, what makes you different, what's your proprietary process? Why should people work with you, right? You get clear on all of that. You get a website.
Starting point is 00:23:47 That isn't just looking pretty, but it actually has a customer. journey that's intentional, where when people come to it, there's a purpose, right? And then you create systems and processes so that you can provide that same consistent experience to every client, right? And then I'm teaching on how to build your team, how to find the right kinds of people, you know, once you've systematized the business, and then take it to the next level and actually scale it. And so, you know, every single one of those habits is extremely practical if you read it. But my favorite one in that where I'm getting a lot of comments on is especially for new agents who I really have a hard for to work with is when they read
Starting point is 00:24:24 the preparation habit where you know here's how to get ready here's your focus intensity with a plan is what the chapter is called they read through that they're like oh my gosh you know this makes so much sense but nobody has ever told me to do this you know and so it's powerful stuff right when preparedness meets opportunity for this expression so prepare i couldn't agree more but not too long right because you You got to get into action and start getting the results. Well, it's practical now. Yep, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Let me ask you this, because I know my real estate agents are closely tuned into the speaker right now. But as my real estate investors who wants to work with a real estate agent or put at least get a real estate agent on their team, if you were sitting in an open house, Alina, and an investor walked in, which has happened to me countless times when I was an agent and my eyes would just roll when they were. walked in. Hang on, hang on. I'll stop you. Why would your eyes roll? Oh, because my whole interpretation of agents or excuse me, investors then was they're going to have me submit a bunch of low ball offers.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And then if I'm going to sell their property, they're going to try and cut into my commission. Those are like my two things. I was like, I don't even want to work with you. Right. And then also none of them knew what they wanted. Just call me when something makes sense. Call me when you find a deal.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Call me when something pencils. Those were all the little phrases that I just. here all the time. And I'd call them and they said, well, this does a pencil. I was like, well, you need to tell me what pencils. So I can, maybe I just answer my own question. See, look what you did to me. All right. So what would an investor have to say to you to be, yeah, I think I'm going to work with this guy. This could be a good relationship for me. Clarity. Just like what you said, I love when people know what people, you know, like, don't beat around the bush. So I tried to pull back because that is my answer. So I just want to like, don't beat around the bush. Tell me what you got to work with.
Starting point is 00:26:19 tell me where you're looking, tell me what you're looking for, and tell me the time frame. Like, is this now? Like, if I'm going to call you, it's a good deal tonight, are you ready to move? Right. Those kinds of things. Yeah. And for agents, you know, I have an entire chapter here on open house strategies, and I call it the million dollar question.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Here's how you get a client. I mean, I'm not sure if it will work on an investor, but I don't see why not. You know, if an investor walks through the house and is about to exit the house and they're kind of ready and you're asking them, so what do you think? And they're going to give you just a nice little, yeah, it's nice. It's a nice place, you know. And I really want to know, tell me what you really think. Are you going to write on this?
Starting point is 00:26:54 And so why not? What's bothering you? What's the problem? What's, right? What else are you looking for? What do you ask them? Right? And the question I teach my agents to ask is this, right?
Starting point is 00:27:03 After I'm asking, so is there any feedback I can pass on to the sellers? And they're going to say, yeah, it's nice. It's nice. May I ask one more question? Sure. Sure. If you had a magic wand and you can change just one thing about this place, what might it be? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And then you shut up and you listen. And now they're going to tell you exactly what they're looking. looking for and why they're not going to buy this house. And now I teach my agents in the focus intensity with the planned chapter number four. I'm teaching them to, it's a strategic, you know, getting to know your market. We're creating a binder. I have a worksheet for them that they can actually download if you're buying the book. You get a ton of bonuses online. And they work through that whole thing. They take that binder to the open house. Now I can flip this open and say, look, I've got this and this and this if that's what you're looking for. In fact, this one just
Starting point is 00:27:48 came on the market. Did you see it? And then I have a whole list of questions they're supposed to answer through every listing. And then whether that's an investor or whether that's a home buyer, you know, is going to look through this and say, I have never seen an agent knowing their stuff like this and having done their homework like this, you're the real child I want to work with because you're thorough, you know, your stuff. And this is like, this is freaking unbelievable, right? And that's how you get a client, right? But then don't take it, then I would take it to the next level and this might really work for your investors and they might already be doing. I'm not be telling them anything new because I, you know, I work.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I got a lot of my investor stuff from being an agent. So go ahead and let's compare. I work with newer agents, obviously. So, but my strategy now, this is all the stuff I used to do. Okay. This is how I got clients, Matt. You know, I would go through the open house that asked them a million dollar question. They would tell me, well, if it had the extra bedroom, you know, if it had the basement,
Starting point is 00:28:38 if it had a garage, it had a shop, if it had a bigger yard, if the neighbors weren't that close, right, then I know, okay, but because I've done my homework and I know my market, I can say, well, have you seen this one? Have you seen this? And they'll say, yeah, we kind of, you know, this one we haven't seen. What would you like to go see it after the open house or tomorrow? What works better for you? Is there anything else I can show you?
Starting point is 00:28:57 By the way, you know, here's how I work. You can explain to them your terms. And then what I do with the next level stuff is I want wanted ads in the local reals in the local community paper. And everybody's like where most agents nowadays are like, wanted ads in a community paper who reads the paper nowadays, people that have money. they do people still do that's where you have your sports news that's where you have your local rezoning petitions and all that kind of local stuff right every community has has that kind of a newspaper and i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:29:30 go where the classified section is i put it on page inside two or three which are both in color and i would have and when you get the book you actually get a whole bonus section where i'm giving you the exact examples of my ads whether you have listings or you have no listings yet here's what it looked like. Here's the exact verbiage, right? And we never pretend. But what I would say, you know, if I had this couple and they're looking for a house in Springfield up to 350, has to have an attached double garage, I'd say, hey,
Starting point is 00:29:57 or gently wanted in Springfield up to 350, you know, blah, blah, blah, just a quick little blur, right? Not too much. And now what happens is all the people that are thinking of selling in two, three months, right, and are kind of still thinking about it, oh, I still need to paint the living room before I'm going to list. I still need to clean out the basement or the garage or whatever, right? or fix the roof.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Well, now they come out of the woodworks and they call you and they're like, well, I've seen your ad and, you know, I've kind of thinking of selling it two, three months, but if these people give us what we want, we might be willing to move faster. And now you have access to listings that other people have, don't even realize exists or aren't market yet. Nice. And that's always been my strategy and I have plenty of papers to prove it, right? And I love it.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And, you know, I had a gal who actually emailed me and said, this is stupid, she says. This will never work. And I'm like, okay. You know, imagine. I guess it all the time. Listen, listen, listen. I'm like, imagine if every local realtor was going to run wanted ads.
Starting point is 00:30:54 It's not going to work. So this is good. That means more listings for me, right? It's cool if you don't believe in it. Just keep doing what you're doing. Yeah. I love it when people, tell me what I'm doing isn't working. I'm like, okay, go good.
Starting point is 00:31:07 You go do what's working for you. I'm going to continue doing what's working for me. Yeah, exactly. All righty. So what's in. the future, Alina, that you're most excited about? Oh, I love coaching. I love one-on-one coaching. I love group coaching. You know what? I love creating groups of people and showing them what's possible for them and just, you know, many times realtor, I'm not sure how investors are, but realtors many times tend to be
Starting point is 00:31:30 loan growth, right? Like they're like not sharing. They're so afraid somebody's going to copy them. They're so afraid somebody, you know, could steal something from them, right? Whereas I'm hoping to bring a completely different, you know, a vibe into. this whole industry. I love coaching. I love working with people one-on-one and in groups. That's kind of my thing that I'm excited about. Perfect. So if someone wanted to get in touch with you, what would be the best way for them to do that? Well, hey, elinabook.com. It's the first place. That's where you get the book for free and you just pay the shipping and you can get it to your doorstep delivered probably in about a week and you can get started on your journey.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Awesome. Alinabook.com. You got it. That's a very clever domain name. How did you call? I have a feeling you might know. Yeah, I have so many domain names, and they're all birthed by an amazing idea I had in the shower or in the middle of the night or something. And then you go to try and find the domain names and you just look for the short, easy ones that are easy to remember, easy to spell.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And you got one, so congrats. Because they're getting fewer and further between these days. So alinabook.com, if you're out there being a real estate agent or have the ambition to B1, highly recommend it. I know Alina very well. She knows her stuff. And as you can tell, she's very passionate about it. That's what I like about her most.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Thank you, Matt. You bet. Thanks for being here. And let's do this again. 100% if you'll have me third time. Yes. No, I always have the good people back. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:05 In fact, when's the last time you had another woman on your show? Because I've been going through your feet and I'm like, is this all guys? is what's happening here. That's interesting. Well, Mercedes, my wife does the Tuesday show. She'll show all the eyes. Yes, definitely. We did a show together for our 1,000th episode, which was fun.
Starting point is 00:33:25 But that's a good point. I don't know why. It's not a conscious effort. I think it's just what comes across in my inbox for the requests. And most of my stuff is monologue. Most of it's me. So I can't do much about that. Well, you know, I definitely appreciate and feel very,
Starting point is 00:33:43 privileged to have been on your show a second time. So thank you for that. Glad to have you. All righty. So if you found this episode valuable, there's a good chance that you know someone else who would as well or if you know a real estate agent. And who do you know? When that name comes to mind, if you think about it, share this episode with them. And then ask them to click the subscribe button when they get here. I'll take great care of them. All righty. That's it for today. God loves you. So do I. Health, peace, blessings, and success to you. I am Matt Terrio. Living the dream. Yeah, yeah, we got the cash flow.
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