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I think the one thing that I'm going to take home and start to use more is going negative with sellers.
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All right. So got a hot show for you today using online classified ads to generate leads, right?
Probably heard of this before, and it's not a secret, but you might have even tried it before.
And to no avail. And I just want to know that I want you to know that you can do this.
That's a good source of finding leads if you work or right.
And, you know, what I mean by that is working this array of classified sites online to generate leads for your real estate investing business.
That's what we're talking about.
You know, if you're frustrated that you don't have enough leads, you don't have enough opportunity, if you're kind of limited on your marketing budget, if you're not receiving the income you'd like, or you're a little scared that you're going to be at the job that J.O.B. longer than you'd like.
Or maybe you might have to, you're fearing that you might have to go back and get a job.
I get it. Been there. I understand. More leads, though, it's going to fix this for you.
And working online classified ads to generate leads is one of those low cost, almost free methods
done in a very systematic manner can produce a very low cost lead for yourself. And like I said,
almost free. Because if you get this part right, you're going to have an abundance of leads.
You'll have more opportunity to seize. Your income is going to increase.
It's going to become more consistent.
And ultimately, you're going to start to experience the financial independence that you signed up for as a real estate investor in the first place.
Got it?
All right.
So I've always worked online classifieds for leads, but really got inspired by a podcast listener, a podcast listeners a while back.
And an event where really, I guess, the student became the teacher a little bit.
And it was a few years ago, this couple, the Richardson's.
They came into one of our events.
I believe it was one of the grub and grow rich events in Atlanta.
And they drove quite a ways to meet me that night.
And we were in Atlanta, but I think they're out a couple hours out of it in a suburb or something of Atlanta.
And it was an honor to be that person in their life that they would do such a thing for to drive that far.
So I sat down with them.
I sat down with them to chat, got to learn about their story and why they had driven so far that night.
And it was from what they had learned from the podcast.
mostly how they implemented what they learned.
And with zero dollars, they started working online classified ads, Craigslist specifically.
And it was a slow beginning.
I think they were, I don't know, three months into it or so before they got their first real bite,
a bite that did, in fact, turn into a deal.
But right after number two popped, the number, or yeah, right after that popped,
the number two popped, and the number three popped, and they were on their way.
And I know at the time they were both working full-time jobs.
He was a driver.
I forget what he was driving where he's a delivery guy.
And she was a waitress.
But they were consistent with their activity.
They coordinated their schedule so that at least one of them would be available as best they could be.
And they just answered the phone every time it rang.
That was it.
That was the commitment.
Place the ads and answer the phone when it rang.
And every time that phone rang and that's really all that it took.
Right?
And with zero dollars, zero marketing dollar budget at that.
So their story, it inspired me to double down on classifieds.
You know, I built so what I built an entire system around it, of which is all 100% implemented
by a virtual assistant.
And it accounts for a good number of our deals.
Enough for it makes sense for us to keep on paying that virtual assistant to keep on doing
it for us.
So today what I'm going to do is I'm going to walk you through this system.
And you can certainly have a virtual assistant do it for you.
or like the Richardson's, you can just get started and start implementing it yourself.
It works both ways.
Okay, so to get started, let's discuss these five hot principles to make it happen for you.
Number one, why it might make sense to incorporate this into your marketing plan.
Number two, where you want to implement this strategy, the where.
Number three, how to capture the lead and follow up.
Four, putting together a message that evokes a response from your ideal prospect,
how to put together the good ad that's going to get someone to respond to it.
And then five, how often to do it?
What's the frequency look like?
Okay, so after I cover those five points, I'll go ahead and I'll walk you through an actual action plan.
I walk a step by step so you can go ahead and implement this yourself right away.
So number one, why it might make sense to incorporate this into your marketing plan?
First, it's essentially free.
It's time consuming, for sure, but it's free.
and second, it's a pretty simple process to attract your ideal prospect.
And so it's free, it's simple, and third, it's online.
It's where the people are.
It's where they are with the considerable portion of their time these days, right?
That's where all the attention is.
Everybody's online.
It's where people's attention is.
It could be the place to find the most underpriced attention than anywhere else.
These online classifies, people's attention is online,
and if you can place a free ad and put it in front of them and get their attention,
it's probably the best place you can be because it's all free.
Right?
So that's why you might want to consider it.
Number two, where do you want to implement this strategy?
Where do you want to do it?
Well, the 800-pound gorilla in the room is obviously Craigslist.
I mean, you want to be there.
And there's a lot of noise there, though.
It can be tough to be seen or heard.
It's going to be tough to cut through all that noise.
But you have to be there because it's one of the biggest websites in the universe.
That's where all the eyeballs are.
And what I'm going to share with you,
I'm going to help you cut through that noise, though, significantly.
And with that said, go ahead and run a Google search right after this episode ends,
or you can pause and do it right now.
Run a Google search for websites like Craigslist.
Websites like Craigslist.
And you're going to get another 20 websites that you can work in the same fashion that I'm going to share with you today.
So just don't limit yourself to Craigslist.
You've got to be on Craigslist, but don't limit yourself to Craigslist.
It is where most of your results will likely stem from, however.
but you'll get results with this process from every website,
as long as you execute it,
how I'm going to show you.
Right.
Number three, how to capture the lead and follow up.
Now, not a lot of mystery here, right?
You need a compelling, it's hot today.
I can't believe it's from freaking January,
and I have to take my sweatshirt off and all that fun stuff.
Okay, so let's see.
So you need a compelling call to action,
of which I'm going to share with you in detail in the next principle.
But you can use a website, you can use a phone number, you can use a texting opt-in service or a messenger bot to capture the leads information.
And you want to capture their name, you want to capture their email, and or their phone number.
So you have the ability to follow up, right?
The fortune isn't the follow-up, absolutely true.
So you want to capture that leads information so you can follow up.
Now, depending on what site you use, it's going to determine what type of lead capture system that you can use.
So, and then what I mean by that, some of them don't allow clickable links.
I don't think Craigslist allows that anymore.
They haven't for a while.
But they change things all the time, and I haven't actually been on the site personally.
My VA does it.
So I don't know what she's doing right now specifically.
But when they allow clickable links, we put that in there because it makes it very easy to drive traffic to a website or a landing page or a squeeze page.
So, but some of them don't and some of them do.
So getting them to your website can be sometimes of a challenge and getting people online.
to pick up the phone and dial a number, that can be a real challenge too.
But use everything that the sites allow you to use.
Whatever that website that you're going to be working, whatever that classified website is,
whatever they allow you to use, use it all.
Okay, use everything.
Everyone has a different way that they like to communicate, meaning your prospect.
They all have different ways of what they prefer.
So you're going to want to give a single call to action, but give them as many ways as possible
to take that action.
and as long as whatever method you do give them
will indeed be a lead capture system, right?
And you want to capture their information for follow-up.
Okay, so single call to action,
every single form of communication
that you can offer with that website
and just make sure that those methods of communication
that you do offer, you are actually capturing the information.
So you can follow up, okay?
The all-new REI Solutions has all of this integrated right now
under the one umbrella right now and for the future.
And it's very intuitive and very economically priced.
So RAI solutions, if you haven't checked it out, I'd consider it.
But most CRMs, with that said, most CRMs should be able to do this today.
And they would go out of business probably if they don't start implementing this stuff
right away because it's kind of the way business is run right now, particularly when it
comes to lead generation.
So most CRMs can do it.
Sometimes you need a third-party integration or two, but you can pretty much get it done
with all of the solutions that I think are available today.
I just like RIA solutions because it's plug and play, so to speak.
Okay, so that's number three.
How to capture the lead, how to follow up with them.
Number four, putting together a message that evokes a response from your ideal prospect.
And this is my favorite part because this is what separates success from no success, right?
I mean, if everyone can follow what I've set up to this point and all be equal,
all be on a level playing field and I'll have the equal advantage.
But right here, putting together this message that's going to get your prospect to respond,
this is what separates success from no success.
So if you go through the classifieds, you'll see just about every person doing the same thing.
And in my opinion, doing it wrong.
You know, people are essentially just with their ads.
They are screaming at their prospects.
And they're all about, hey, prospect.
This is what I need you to do for me.
That's what all of these ads say.
That's the context of those ads.
That's the feeling.
That's the vibe of the ads.
And that approach, it's futile.
This is why it doesn't work for so many people.
And I don't know why they continue to do it over and over and over it.
It's been that way for at least a decade since I started working this strategy.
Don't do that.
You've got to change your message so that it's all about what's in it for the prospect, not what's in it for you.
I mean, it's such a common concept.
What I just shared with you is not anything new.
It's not even my idea.
And it's, you'll find, it's, you'll be hard pressed to find someone that will disagree with it.
But amazingly, very few people focus on it and implement it.
So just do it.
Forget about you.
Focus on your prospect.
Give your prospect what they want.
Don't focus on what you want.
Give your prospect what they want.
If you give them what they want, they're going to give you what you want.
And so to do that, you have to identify what it is that they indeed want.
For example, if you're looking for sellers, they want quick, they want easy, they want cheap, they want no hassle, they want fair, they want competent, they want some discretion, they want someone that's going to get the job done without any overwhelming burdens to them.
So you want to make that the dominant portion of all of your classified postings, both in the headline,
and then get into detail in the body of the posting or the ad.
But still, don't ever shift that focus onto you.
Keep that focus on them.
So if you're looking for buyers, what do they want?
Well, buyers, they want equity.
They want return on investment.
They want cash flow.
They want opportunity.
They want a deal.
They want a screaming deal.
They want to fricking gold.
So you want to make that the dominant portion of all.
all of your classified postings, both in the headline and in the body.
Focus on your prospect, what they want.
And here's a tip for this.
Try to create both your headline and the entire body of your classified postings
without ever using the word I.
You can't use the word I.
Try and do that.
Every time you feel the need to do so, ask yourself,
how can I reword this by using the word you instead?
Try and swap out all the eyes for use.
Another tip, avoid the big use of adjectives, like, amazing deal, or this cute little house,
or this cute flip, or this unbelievable deal.
It's all BS.
No one gives a crap about that.
Focus on the facts, particularly the facts that your prospect wants.
You know, an example headline for sellers might be something like, get a cash offer quickly,
easily, that will close as promised.
that would be something that they would want, right?
That could be a good headline.
Get a cash offer quickly, easily, that will close as promised.
An example headline for buyers might be something like 25% below market, investor liquidating inventory.
Okay, so 25% below market, that suggests equity, investor liquidating inventory.
This seems like it's an opportunity.
This is a deal.
This person, there's probably something to get here.
Right?
So that could be the headline.
So focus on your prospect and what they want.
in your ad. Try not to use the word I at all. And anytime you feel that you have to use it,
just step back. How can I reward this using the word you? And take it easy on all the hyperbole,
all the big giant adjectives. Okay. No one's buying it. Right. It's, you just sound like,
like, like, huckster. And you sound like you're, you're selling snake oil or something like
that. And you're blending in with all the other people that are screaming at their prospects as to what's
in it for them. Like, this is what I want you to do. Okay. Good. So, number five, how often
How often do we do this?
A lot of you aren't going to like this answer,
but the answer is daily.
That's the short answer, daily.
If anything I've said here implies that all you have to do is place a few classified ads
and you can sit back and watch the money roll in.
If anything I said implied that, that's my bad.
That's not what I'm saying.
That's not what this strategy is.
This is a strategy of frequency.
And like any other marketing strategy, strategy, it's a strategy of consistency,
and it's a strategy of persistence.
So if you're not prepared to do that, if you're not prepared to be consistent and exercise
this strategy with persistence or you don't have someone to do it for you in that manner,
don't start.
Don't even do it.
Okay?
I mean, it's certainly possible, and I would even say not uncommon, to do a deal right away.
That happens all the time.
But if you can see yourself carrying this strategy out and in 60 days saying, this doesn't work,
then don't start.
If you think that's a possibility for you to do this for 60 days with no results and like,
that didn't work.
I'm going to try something new.
Then don't even start it because that's not what type of strategy this is.
It's for the long run.
This is high frequency, high consistency, and with persistence.
You know, as I look at my results and as I shared with you earlier, the results of the Richardson's in Atlanta,
you know, they went 90 days with nothing until they had something.
And then it started to happen consistently.
and that's because they were consistent with their activities of posting classified ads.
And as they experienced the same that I've experienced, the strategy, it starts to snowball.
It compounds.
Because after some time, and you're doing this exercising the strategy, you've got ads all over the internet.
And for most sites, they tend to live somewhere on the internet.
And they live forever.
You know, you might not be able to find your ad when you go and search for it.
But things happen all, I mean, they sit there and they live forever.
And you're going to recognize this as you're doing deals with people that found one of your ads.
And you're going to find a certain number of people that found your ad because they were looking for what you had to offer.
And boom, that's how you found them.
Some are going to, you're going to do business with people that found your ad totally accidentally.
And what I get so often is you get people that you do business with and like, you ask them, so how did you hear about me?
Why me?
Why now?
And you go through your little script of when you're talking to buyers and sellers.
And you get this so often.
You know, I don't really remember where I found you.
I was just kind of clicking around and I saw your number.
I wrote it down and, you know, came back to it later.
It's pretty amazing.
That's what it's going to mostly be.
And that happens for you because you've done this for a long period of time.
You've been consistent with it.
And like I said, that happens pretty darn often.
But none of that's going to be available for you unless you commit to this practice.
You've got to put in the work.
Everything works, nothing doesn't.
Deal?
You know, what I've said before is you can do this business fast by buying your way in.
Or you can do this business for a really long time by earning your way in.
One of them takes some money, takes dollars, the other takes sweat.
And so those are kind of your two options.
I don't know if one is better than the other.
I like the way, how you earn your way in, but you just have to adjust your expectations
that you might get your results a little bit slower.
up front. So if you have the means, do both. But don't start one, then once that wears out,
then start the other. Start them both at the same time. So you're prepared. And you do this
activity consistently. You're not going to need a marketing budget at some point. All right. So let's
recap. Number one was why it makes sense to incorporate this into your marketing plan. It's probably
the most bang for your buck. And what I mean by that is you can reach a lot of people
where it costs no bucks. Okay. That's where it's really underpriced attention.
And when it's free, you can't get much underpriced in that.
Number two, where you want to implement this strategy?
Of course, Craigslist, but there's a lot of other online classifies out there.
You hear about back page.
There's the eBay classifieds.
And just go and search websites like Craigslist, and you're going to get 20.
You get 30 different blog posts that have 20 different ones on each one of them.
Number three, how to capture the lead and follow up.
Typically, it's going to be through either a website or a phone number.
You could use a texting feature or a buy.
something like that, depending on what the tools that that particular website is going to allow you to use.
But you want to capture that.
And once you capture their information, make sure that you have your follow-up system in place so that starts happening automatically.
And then number four, you want to put together a message that evokes a response from your ideal prospect.
So take the focus off of what you want.
Don't be like everybody else.
If you want what everyone else has got, then you can go do what they do.
But if you want what the few have that have the deals, that have the wealth, that are living the dream,
We've got the independence.
They're getting the results.
Then you want to do what they do.
And what they do is they focus on what's in it for the prospect.
That famous quote, that famous saying, if you give enough people what they want,
they'll give you back what you want.
So focus your ads in that regard.
Five, how often to do this?
You need to do this with high frequency, consistently, and with persistence.
For example, when I say high frequency on Craigslist,
If you go and post an ad right there right now,
and it's the perfect ad with the perfect offer,
and you've done everything correctly,
you put it on there right now,
that ad will probably be invisible within the next three or four hours.
Because that's the volume that happens on Craigslist,
and as more people put their ads up,
yours continues to be shoved down to the bottom.
So consider that.
So on Craigslist, that one specifically,
you know, 8 a.m., 12 p.m., 5 p.m.,
three times a day.
and it'll be a little time-consuming up front,
a little tedious work up front,
because you've got to put all those ads together.
But once you've got a good circulation of those ads,
all you have to do is log in once a day
and click a button to repost.
Okay?
So it'll be a little bit of work up front,
but then it gets pretty easy to post several times a day.
And that you can give a virtual assistant to.
Say you set up all the ads,
you post them all the first time around.
That might run you through, you know,
four or five days.
And now you just give the VA,
the authority to just go,
go ahead, log into your account and click repost once or three times a day.
Okay.
And you want to kind of consider that based on the activity level of all the other websites as well.
So that's what this is about.
High frequency, consistency, and with persistence.
All right.
So now let's look at your game plan.
Right?
Let's create some actual action steps out of this.
So first thing, get your lead capture tools in place.
You need your phone number on your website.
You need both of those at least.
Second, you want to identify your prospect and make a list.
of what they want.
What is your ideal person?
The person you're looking for, what do they want?
Okay.
Number three, I want you to create at least 10 headlines that include what your prospect wants, right?
Particularly, it would be a good idea to make sure that you can deliver it as well.
But you want to focus those headlines based on what your prospect wants.
Number four, I want you to create at least three ads.
So we're going to do 10 headlines, the 10 headlines, and then three bodies, three ads, the actual body of the ad.
That includes more and more detail of what your prospect wants.
And I didn't touch on this, but in many of the online classified ad sites, this is why you want 10 headlines, three ads.
Because if you post the same ad over and over and over again, a lot of the websites, they have an algorithm in place, and they'll detect duplicate
content and they don't like duplicate content.
So you want to mix stuff up.
You don't want to get your account shut down.
You don't want to get your ad to disappear or anything like that without you knowing it.
So you want to mix up your headlines and body so that the computer algorithm doesn't
detect it as a duplicate posting.
Okay?
So you want to mix that up.
And also with Craigslist, there's a lot of community policing in the Craigslist.
and even if you post a good ad and it's not a duplicated ad,
the community can go ahead and flag it and have your ad removed.
So with that said, keep in mind the people that are looking at your ad,
and if you look like you are overpromising,
even if what you're promising is actual,
but if you look like you're overpromising or you're selling a little too hard,
you can still get flagged by the community.
Okay, so keep that in mind.
And then step five, after you've created your three,
create your 10 headlines, create your three ads, boom, post three times a day.
And then go pick the next website and repeat the process.
Got it?
Don't pick more websites than you can manage consistently.
And if you can't take on the commitment that it takes for this to work, then maybe this
isn't a marketing strategy that belongs in your toolbox.
So choose something else, whatever it is that you can do consistently.
This is just a way to do it.
And it's a way to do it that costs little to zero money.
Sometimes you can boost ads and you can give them a higher, higher visibility.
And I think some of them are like a dollar.
You get a highlighted headline or $5, you can get boosted up to the top every three hours, something like that.
So all these little different features.
But you can do this for essentially no cost at all.
It just takes some sweat on your end.
So if you're not prepared to do that, don't use this one.
What's the best marketing strategy?
I'm going to give you the best marketing strategy out there.
It's the one that you're going to do consistently.
Okay, it's one you're actually going to do
and the one that you're going to do consistently.
So keep that in mind.
You want multiple lines in the water.
You want multiple marketing lines in the water
to attract those leads to you.
So don't pick any more than you can implement consistently.
All right.
Got it.
Now you know.
Time to do.
All right.
So that's it for today.
God bless and to your success.
I'm Matt Terrio.
Live in the dream.
Yeah, yeah, we got the cash flow.
You didn't know home boy, we got the dash low.
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