Erin is the Funny One - Debate Night Pt. 2
Episode Date: November 15, 2021Jack and Erin kick off a wild 21st episode of EITFO with a wine that’s just not buttery enough for Jack - then, put away the quizzes because debate is here for round two! Will there be laughs? Yes. ...Will there be thoughtful discussions? Kind of. Will there be fights? You better believe it! Then, Mad Libs Horoscopes are back and better than ever - so sit back, relax and celebrate the podcasts wild 21st birthday with us! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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                                        Hi, welcome back to a new episode of Aaron is the funny one. That was aggressive. I'm hi welcome back
                                         
                                        I am aggressive because I'm Jack Douglas and you're the other one. I'm two toes up. Hi two toes up
                                         
                                        Welcome to my podcast. Thank you for co-hosting. I am the main host. You are the co-host never agreed to that
                                         
                                        Thank you for coming today. Do you know what number podcast this is?
                                         
                                        It's the one where we can legally finally get drunk. That's right
                                         
                                        It's the 21st podcast welcome to our 21st birthday party for our 21st episode of our first podcast
                                         
                                        It's so excited. It's baby's first 21st and baby's gonna get drunk baby's gonna get drunk
                                         
                                        It's 21st birthday. You kind of have to at least here in the States Jack film. What did you do on your 21st birthday?
                                         
    
                                        Oh, it was really cool. I
                                         
                                        stayed home and
                                         
                                        Then and then you know my sisters. I think they took me out to see like Notting Hill or something
                                         
                                        Oh, you know what you'll like this
                                         
                                        No, no, my sisters took me out to a bar and they I remember this very clearly
                                         
                                        They got really annoyed with me because I got a little tipsy and you know what I do when I get tipsy
                                         
                                        You wouldn't stop talking
                                         
                                        Talking oh my god
                                         
    
                                        You need to have a convo with them because I think they can like they probably remember that but yeah
                                         
                                        Like I remember them being visibly annoyed at how much I talked
                                         
                                        And
                                         
                                        This is something I'm laughing because this is something Aaron
                                         
                                        Constantly argues with me about like I hate when you get drunk because you just talk
                                         
                                        Well, the thing that about it too is that like you lose all sense of caring of if the other person is interested in the conversation
                                         
                                        That is very true. So also very alcohol not only are you talking incessantly, but it's not a care in the world
                                         
                                        Of it's a one-way convo. It's a one-way convo. Yes, you go on monologues Aaron. Yes, what you do for your 21st birthday?
                                         
    
                                        Kind of crazy to think that we met not long after our 21st birthday
                                         
                                        My my roommates at the time
                                         
                                        Through me a birthday party. It was luau themed. It was cute a ton of fun
                                         
                                        We did lemon drop shots nice, which was very fancy for being 21 years old
                                         
                                        And can you remind our listeners what a lemon drop shot is?
                                         
                                        I think that we just used a sky lemon vodka
                                         
                                        I can taste it and I think we may have put a little bit of squeeze a lemon juice in there
                                         
                                        Stop it and that's the fucking shot instead of like the way you like lick salt off your hand
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, we would lick sugar off of our hand. Oh, that's cute. That's appropriate. Yeah, we did a lot of lemon lemon drop shots that night
                                         
                                        It was a lot of fun. I had a wonderful 21st birthday
                                         
                                        I'm trying a great morning after as I had mentioned last week my 20th year sucked sucked beyond belief
                                         
                                        That's right. I got dumped. I had my worst semester in school my first semester. My family dog died
                                         
                                        I got my wisdom teeth out and had a horrible reaction to it. I got mugged. That was hard
                                         
                                        I mean my 20th year will like forever be branded in my mind is like this is the worst
                                         
                                        I mean outside of literally the pandemic. Yeah, neither here nor there
                                         
                                        I'd say all that you described is worse. So ushering in my 21st year with friends. It was a blast
                                         
    
                                        I had a blast. I can imagine like the the sense of relief that must have been. Yeah, it was a lot of fun
                                         
                                        We had very different
                                         
                                        But enough about us is the podcast 21st birthday. Yes, and we're gonna celebrate right now
                                         
                                        How do you think the podcast wants to celebrate today? Do they want to go to a bar with their sisters or?
                                         
                                        Do they want to have a luau themed birthday party with their friends? If I'm being honest?
                                         
                                        I think neither. I think the podcast wants to get right into this week's wine of the week. Oh
                                         
                                        You know what this podcast I knew from the start that it was class. No skyvon
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
    
                                        No, no, no this podcast is oozing with class. I mean you can basically smell the Chanel from here
                                         
                                        Jack film. Yes. What are we drinking today? I'm so glad you asked. We are drinking a
                                         
                                        2016 Chardonnay. Oh
                                         
                                        2016 that was a good year. That was a good year. Wasn't it? Yeah, that was a fun year
                                         
                                        That year at the very end the tail end of 2016. Yeah, and the Chardonnay is titled lulumi
                                         
                                        I think it's lulumi lulumi lulumi Malay lulumi. It's from France
                                         
                                        It's very fancy. It is from France just like our Chanel podcast our podcast is very fancy
                                         
                                        It needs a France Chardonnay. It doesn't do American
                                         
    
                                        Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, no, no, and it's it's only 12 and a half percent
                                         
                                        But that's because it is class. You don't need high alcohol level to have fun
                                         
                                        Also class want that buzz class buzz class buzz. Yes. Also class is its price tag 14 bucks for it
                                         
                                        Well, well at our local. Yeah at our local place at our local wine shop. We paid 1399
                                         
                                        Let's see what the Vivino app says see what the app says. I'll give a taste test of this wine
                                         
                                        Not my favorite
                                         
                                        It's okay
                                         
                                        It's not your favorite because it's too classy for you. Okay. It must be last week's pearls before swine last week's wine
                                         
    
                                        I loved it was buttery. This is not buttery
                                         
                                        It lacks butter and I want my Chardonnay to be filled and stuffed with tubs of butter
                                         
                                        And this one doesn't I would say this is a this is like a five out of ten for Jack film
                                         
                                        According to the Vivino app this it gets there's only 12 ratings and it has a
                                         
                                        3.9 out of five stars and the average price point exactly what we paid for at $13.99
                                         
                                        Good, I wouldn't pay a dollar more for it
                                         
                                        Erin's already sloppily throwing her phone at our wine glasses
                                         
                                        Maybe it's not 12 and a half percent maybe it's like 20% honey
                                         
    
                                        What do you think why don't you give us a little taste test am I too jaded am I too spoiled?
                                         
                                        No, it's fine. It's just not like California. We're used to California
                                         
                                        We're we are used to the California shards, which last week's was a California
                                         
                                        It tastes like totally I mean to our unrefined taste buds speak for yourself. They taste like two very different types
                                         
                                        They just taste like different. They don't taste like two Chardonnay's no
                                         
                                        They're like just two totally different types of wine
                                         
                                        So anyway, but you know it'll do and this is what the podcast wanted what the podcast wants the podcast gets
                                         
                                        Okay, always mcdoy. It's their birthday and they wanted to celebrate with classy French wine and speaking of birthdays. Yes, honey
                                         
    
                                        To help celebrate Scorpio season no to help celebrate the 21st episode of this podcast
                                         
                                        Uh-huh. You just described a very rowdy 21st birthday experience. Oh, I didn't yeah very rowdy was luau themed
                                         
                                        Yeah, you did the lemon drop shots, but we were perfectly well behaved
                                         
                                        It's not like we like got arrested or anything like that like well behaved
                                         
                                        I don't believe that for a second for for what it could have been. We were well behaved
                                         
                                        Nevertheless, I think my parents paid for my 21st birthday. They bought me a round trip ticket to
                                         
                                        Vegas where I celebrated my 21st
                                         
                                        This is like two months later my 21st with my best friend from high school and it was her 21st birthday when we were there now
                                         
    
                                        Let me tell you I literally almost came home with a husband
                                         
                                        Was way more rowdy than my what could have been actual 21st birthday
                                         
                                        We'll have to hear that story someday, but we're getting off track as
                                         
                                        As much as I do want to go into that we are getting off track here because this is the 21st episode of our podcast
                                         
                                        I think it deserves a rowdy one instead of a quiz honey. Should we get it a husband? We should get it a husband Vegas style
                                         
                                        No, no, no, I think it's time to get rowdy. I think for this podcast. We should have another debate night. Oh
                                         
                                        And really get into it. Let's fight. I mean, okay, sure that could get rowdy
                                         
                                        Oh, it will now. I kind of wish we had broken out that 14% wine that way we just get mad
                                         
    
                                        The mad drunk get comes out. I think we'll get mad enough. Okay
                                         
                                        I have a list of debate topics. Some of these are leftovers from the previous debate night
                                         
                                        We had many moons ago, but all of them will be hella feisty for a first subject, honey
                                         
                                        I'm sorry. I feel like this is happening really quickly. This is like happening faster than my Las Vegas engagement. Oh my god
                                         
                                        It's always coming back to the Las Vegas engagement. I feel like well how we're already we're already going into it
                                         
                                        Yeah, I haven't even had time to like prep my thoughts or anything like that
                                         
                                        Well, there's nothing to prep because I haven't given you any of the topics
                                         
                                        But sometimes I just like to feel like I'm prepared to feel prepared
                                         
    
                                        Well, you can't be prepared because you don't know the topics unlike a quiz
                                         
                                        I'm not gonna give you like that. It's a terry pot or trivia like no, it's debate night. I have topics
                                         
                                        You don't know what they are. Maybe that'll help fine. Just go fine. Just go so honey. Yeah
                                         
                                        Let me know if I'm going too fast
                                         
                                        For our first subject
                                         
                                        I want you to rank the Toy Story movies
                                         
                                        Okay, I don't even know if I remember them there are four of them
                                         
                                        Okay, so first hold on for just as a recap. Yeah, the first toy story movie
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, Sid is the bad guy. That's right
                                         
                                        The second toy story movie the toy shop owner is the bad guy, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah, sort of like he's one of the bad guys
                                         
                                        He's like the owls toy barn or something the third one the big stuff teddy bear is the bad one
                                         
                                        That's right. Yeah, and they almost die. Hey, that's the one where they almost die
                                         
                                        That's the one where there's that really great video where someone like re-edited the movie and then
                                         
                                        Screen it with his folks. So he edited it so that
                                         
                                        In such a way that it ends when like all the toys are about to be crushed or incinerated
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, they'll hold hands and close their eyes and then it fades to black and then the credits are all in here
                                         
                                        Da-da-da-da-da-da and then the parents turn to the guy and they go, that's horrible. Is that how it ends?
                                         
                                        It's one of the greatest videos ever. Okay, but that is the third one
                                         
                                        Wait, who is the other bad guy in the second one? Prospector stinky Pete. Oh
                                         
                                        Oh, we just watched that recently didn't we? We did. Yeah, it was on and then Toy Story 4
                                         
                                        Toy Story 4 was horrible. That was the one. I don't remember shit about Toy Story 4
                                         
                                        I can't get um
                                         
                                        Bo peep goes like G.I. Jane basically. That's that's it. I think she loses an arm maybe or they're detachable
                                         
    
                                        I think she keeps like having to tape her lips or something. She's super tough. She's a girl boss. She's a girl boss
                                         
                                        Great movie, but then Woody. Okay guys literally this is spoiler alert
                                         
                                        So like don't listen to the next minute or something. Yeah, you haven't seen Toy Story 4
                                         
                                        Woody I remember just being pissed at the end because the evolution of their relationship cuz he died felt like hold on hold on hold on
                                         
                                        No, no, no no no no no no no no no no no like it went from zero to a hundred real quick
                                         
                                        You felt it was unerred
                                         
                                        Didn't feel like it was reciprocated
                                         
                                        I didn't feel like she was in the same place
                                         
    
                                        He was and then he ends up leaving his crew for her. Mm-hmm
                                         
                                        I remember growing up and being taught from a very young age like what happens in Greece not okay
                                         
                                        Sandy at the end changing herself. Oh, yeah, so Danny will like her damn. She got hot
                                         
                                        That's not the lesson
                                         
                                        Not the lesson to be taught here, okay, and it's for sure not the lesson that should be learned fellas back me up
                                         
                                        So I guess I'm a little bit like the shoe is on the other foot Woody is
                                         
                                        Simping so hard for Bo Peep. I mean Andy is on Woody's foot. No stop. No, but he simped so hard for Bo Peep that
                                         
                                        He he simped too close to the Sun
                                         
    
                                        If you will a tail is all this time, so I'm gonna say yeah rank him so it's one two three four what order
                                         
                                        Okay, hmm. This is tough. This is this is a tough one. It's actually very easy, but okay
                                         
                                        I'm gonna say two is the best. Okay followed by one. Okay, followed by three
                                         
                                        Followed by four and let me tell you why we were just earlier today
                                         
                                        We were watching Shrek 2 we sure were and the og Shrek 1 mm-hmm
                                         
                                        Okay, and what happens with these types of movies is that while the first movie is just incredible like
                                         
                                        Revolutionary right it's like comedy like you've never seen it before it really it's a game changer. These are you know classic
                                         
                                        Impressive awesome movies. What happens with the second is that that's when they really find their stride
                                         
    
                                        Yes, they lean in they know it like they're like, okay, they introduce new characters
                                         
                                        They see like what they can do with jokes what they can do with the characters
                                         
                                        expand they expand so the second one
                                         
                                        I'm gonna say is the best the first is second best because it was revolutionary for what it was right
                                         
                                        Yeah, the third was very good. Yes, but they were just qualities to the second and first that the third will just
                                         
                                        Unfortunately never live up to it just inherently would never be able to achieve those things through no fault of its own
                                         
                                        No fault of its own
                                         
                                        It's just it came at a later date when things had already been
                                         
    
                                        Invented and it was just kind of following the what's the work like the pattern a little bit by that point
                                         
                                        So it was leaves us to four which leaves us to four which Woody is just a simp
                                         
                                        loser
                                         
                                        Who left his entire support system his bros for somebody who didn't even like him that much back
                                         
                                        We definitely would not have reciprocated that that relationship did seem a bit one-sided
                                         
                                        It was very one-sided if I recall she was not about to come back to them
                                         
                                        No, so he went to her, but she wasn't even that into him. I also I didn't know I never got their relationship
                                         
                                        Was not believable. No, and you know what it also it fell off as much as I'm like
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, the third was just kind of following the patterns of its past the fourth didn't follow the patterns
                                         
                                        There was also a time in the movie where I was like, oh, this is the end and then it continued
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm, and I just remember being like confused
                                         
                                        Syndrome I just wasn't feeling it. So final answer two one three four. Damn it. That's my ranking, too
                                         
                                        I can't how do I debate that? How do you debate it? I was that was I two one three four is my order as well
                                         
                                        My Shreks are two one four three, but toy stories are two one three four
                                         
                                        Yeah, Shrek is definitely two one four, you know, I mean, yeah
                                         
                                        It's and it's like you said the first one revolutionary the second one does like world-building this like
                                         
    
                                        Now that the origin stories been told now that the exposition has been laid down the foundation has been laid down
                                         
                                        Then you can really have some fun. Yes, and that applies for both franchises
                                         
                                        Then you start to run out of story by the third installment and by the fourth installment
                                         
                                        Well, you know, what what is there left to say?
                                         
                                        So really I think what we should really be debating is like why Shrek is such a joke because I don't understand all the Shrek jokes
                                         
                                        It's a fucking fantastic fucking movie. Yeah Shrek jokes have been in for the last like fucking five years
                                         
                                        I don't get it. Honestly, I don't get it. It's amazing amazing movie
                                         
                                        Well, I don't think people are doubting that I don't think people are like mocking it
                                         
    
                                        So what's fun? I don't understand what what is there to make fun a lot of it's nostalgia because that the first movie is
                                         
                                        You know 20 years old now and still holds up by the way guys. I watched it today
                                         
                                        It holds up. I watched it today and so good. Even the animation is not that bad
                                         
                                        You think it'd be like a lot more stiff and wooden but like the textures are there. Yeah
                                         
                                        The gingerbread man looks like an edible gingerbread man. Thank God for closed captions
                                         
                                        I was telling Jack when they do that. Yeah, do lock. Yeah, the do lock little like
                                         
                                        Right, whatever like I remember seeing it in theaters and I had no idea what those things were saying like I understood the like
                                         
                                        Yeah, you got the asterisk sure, but that was it. That was it. No, I thank God for closed captions
                                         
    
                                        It's the best way to watch movies when you're old like us. Okay. I was learning disorder. Okay. It has nothing to do with age
                                         
                                        I've been doing this for like 10 years now once I discovered that I watched television better with closed captions
                                         
                                        I've been doing it since guys. Honestly, try it out if you don't already do it try it out my family
                                         
                                        I will say this my family one time I went home and I turned on closed captions and they were like what the hell is this?
                                         
                                        I'm not watching this with closed captions. Oh my God
                                         
                                        And then no lie now all they do is watch it with closed captions. They're like, all right. You were on to something there
                                         
                                        So try it out guys. It is a game changer
                                         
                                        The downside is I do get distracted reading the closed captions when I should be you know watching
                                         
    
                                        You know three inches up to see the action, but you get a lot more story
                                         
                                        I get a lot more story reading the closed caption
                                         
                                        Especially when things like people are having like phone conversations and you can't always hear like what somebody on the other end of the line
                                         
                                        Sure, but they spell it out for you with closed captions. Sometimes it's worth it moving on. Let's try something else here
                                         
                                        What a shitty I can't believe you picked that it's about okay
                                         
                                        Well, we're gonna move on to increasingly more incendiary debate topics. I don't know what that word means like fight worthy
                                         
                                        All right, like squid game. Mm-hmm 39 million
                                         
                                        reasons to fight
                                         
    
                                        Short just like squid game, baby. Okay, honey. Who is more annoying people or me? No, but yes
                                         
                                        But no who who is more annoying people who overly believe in horoscopes or
                                         
                                        Cryptobros crypto bros there's something about the testosterone that just like fucking turns me off so hard
                                         
                                        I explore this but yeah, okay, so people who overly believe in horoscopes. Yeah are
                                         
                                        Looking for I was thinking about this recently actually like reasons why people go to see mediums go to psychics
                                         
                                        Yeah tarot card reading like all that stuff and people who believe in horoscopes and by the way
                                         
                                        I don't not believe in that stuff. I have a very open mind about it
                                         
                                        But I'm pretty like neutral to it
                                         
    
                                        So I'm like I can go with the wind blows whatever anyway
                                         
                                        I have an open mind to it unlike some people who are so like
                                         
                                        Resolute in their beliefs. Uh-huh. Okay. I don't think that people overly believe in horoscopes are annoying at all
                                         
                                        and the reason I think that is because I think that they're looking for
                                         
                                        Something to believe in and something to explain why they are the way they are or explain their behavior in a way
                                         
                                        When my therapist and I were recently talking about attachment styles the way I described it
                                         
                                        She laughed at me, but not at me. Whatever. No, she's laughed at me. I was like, oh, it's like a more scientific
                                         
                                        Horoscope this explains why I am the way I am and she laughed she was like, yeah
                                         
    
                                        I guess because it's based on like life experiences basically not
                                         
                                        Just like what time of day you're born in what season?
                                         
                                        I think that people who attach themselves to horoscopes are really they're looking for like meaning and
                                         
                                        Why things are the way they are? I don't fault anybody for that now
                                         
                                        Cryptobros are those types of people that they say things. Oh, by the way, I'm like super
                                         
                                        Making a lot of assumptions right now and I'm stereotyping much like people who believe in horoscopes go on
                                         
                                        Yeah, sure. I'm stereotyping quite a bit, but I know not crypto bros
                                         
                                        I don't really know many crypto bros at all, but I know the personality of men. Sorry men who
                                         
    
                                        Say things with such confidence. I also know some women that do this as well
                                         
                                        Just to be fair, but they say things with such confidence and they're wrong. They're wrong
                                         
                                        They're factually just like completely uneducated and like do not have an entire viewpoint
                                         
                                        But they say things with such certainty and it's like
                                         
                                        No, but you're missing an entire piece of the equation. Yeah, maybe your answer is correct
                                         
                                        But the way that you arrived at that answer
                                         
                                        Is incorrect
                                         
                                        so
                                         
    
                                        You're missing an entire piece of the puzzle. I hate when people don't do that
                                         
                                        I also hate when people speak with such certainty. They don't leave any room for like other opinions
                                         
                                        I hate that it drives me crazy. By the way, I can't wait for people to take this clip and then show me like show
                                         
                                        Oh my god, right? I am that first. I am the crypto bro
                                         
                                        I am that is me. Anyway. Yeah, fuck them. Okay, fuck that. Fuck those people final answer
                                         
                                        Okay, so I also think that crypto bros are hella annoying. I hate that whole culture. I do you think it's a culture
                                         
                                        Yeah, I do. I really oh, yeah 100% it's a culture. I see it on twitter people just like saying like, you know
                                         
                                        This nft's hella hot, you know, is it an nft type of crypto? Yeah, it is. Okay 100%
                                         
    
                                        It's the stupidest thing ever
                                         
                                        That's why I'm never gonna retire guys because I'm not in the crypto
                                         
                                        Like honestly, I think a lot of is is just an advanced form of like pyramid schemes
                                         
                                        You know, people are just always pushing like this by this art. You know for three aetherium
                                         
                                        It's it. Yeah, because people will resell it in you know, blah, blah, blah
                                         
                                        It's just it's it's really shitty. You should just get into poker. I feel like at least there's like, you know
                                         
                                        Well, hold on. I got a whole I got a whole point here. Okay. Sorry
                                         
                                        So I think it's like, yeah, the whole crypto bro culture
                                         
    
                                        I do hate and it's very much a culture
                                         
                                        Having said that, I think horoscopes, zodiac signs and traits attributed to when you were born, etc
                                         
                                        I do think it's a form of racism. I think it's a form of
                                         
                                        Shut up. You do not actually think that people who are like, I will never as a blank
                                         
                                        You know, pick a pick a zodiac sign. Yeah, because I don't know the relationships cancer. Sure as a cancer
                                         
                                        I will never date a blank cancer. Right. Yeah, we're both cancers. I know
                                         
                                        but
                                         
                                        Stop my whole point
                                         
    
                                        My whole point is like people who say like in their bios like as a scorpio
                                         
                                        I will never date a capricorn or whatever the fuck and they mean it. They don't mean it. No
                                         
                                        You don't think I don't know. You don't think I don't I think they do and those are the shittiest people
                                         
                                        They're like, I will never date someone who is born between
                                         
                                        These two dates that makes no sense and I don't want to defend crypto bros
                                         
                                        But at least they can have like how they can rely on actual like
                                         
                                        Mathematical figures and shit stuff that I don't understand by the way. I don't claim to understand any of it
                                         
                                        But I genuinely do not understand the horoscope people who are like, I'm incompatible with libras
                                         
    
                                        like
                                         
                                        But like it's people like people who overly believe in that shit and like make decisions on like what relationships they they form
                                         
                                        Of racism what a dumb thing to say
                                         
                                        It's a form of discrimination
                                         
                                        Okay, for lack of a better term. It's a form. It's a form of discrimination
                                         
                                        Sure, okay, sure
                                         
                                        I will never so long as I live
                                         
                                        build a relationship with a tourist because I'm a water sign or whatever the fuck
                                         
    
                                        I don't know and I refuse to learn because it's fucking like witchcraft and wizardry. It's like fuck that shit
                                         
                                        It means nothing. Why are you so mad at it though?
                                         
                                        Because people honestly believe it and that drives me insane. It's like no, there's actual like science out there
                                         
                                        So people encouraging others to like literally lose their hard-earned money
                                         
                                        potentially that bothers you less
                                         
                                        Than people who just like are trying to find certainty in the world and find ways
                                         
                                        We're all trying to find certainty. How is it any different than like people saying like, I'm an enft
                                         
                                        I could never date an istj or I'm an enneagram seven. I could never date an enneagram six
                                         
    
                                        Wait, what's the what are those? What's the ladder you just say? Oh, you just invited us to take enneagram tests
                                         
                                        I can't wait. I'm good. No the former
                                         
                                        I think there's more sense in the former argument you made because because it's based on like
                                         
                                        Personality traits, but perhaps there are personality traits associated with signs
                                         
                                        I mean, yes, there are personality traits associated with signs
                                         
                                        If you believe that and I don't I think it's silly to say like why don't you believe it?
                                         
                                        Because I think it's silly to say like as a cancer. I feel this emotion
                                         
                                        I feel this strongly about this that doesn't make any sense to me. You know what doesn't make any sense to me jack
                                         
    
                                        What's that? How about the fact that you claim that you're like an atheist?
                                         
                                        But then every time that like you have a headache, you think you're gonna die and go to hell
                                         
                                        Tell me about hell if you're an atheist help me understand that first off agnostic. Don't get it twisted
                                         
                                        Okay, you've big difference recently changed that because you used to claim that you were an atheist
                                         
                                        Sure, and so I don't know when you've decided to become agnostic. I think it might draw my life
                                         
                                        But back in like 2013. I said I was agnostic probably just because you didn't want to scare your parents
                                         
                                        They were like, oh, no, you'll never be able to come to church with us now
                                         
                                        Now
                                         
    
                                        This is why debate night is so appropriate for the 21st episode. We get rowdy. That's what I wanted
                                         
                                        Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. But also tell me about this agnostic hell. Who opens the the hell gates?
                                         
                                        Who opens the hell gates if you're agnostic? Yeah, we believe in Zeus
                                         
                                        Doesn't that mean that you are like a greek god man person? No, I'm sorry
                                         
                                        Let me rephrase that only toruses can open the gates of hell because they're not a water sign. I don't know
                                         
                                        They're not a water sign. Yeah, there you go
                                         
                                        Can we just agree that both crypto bros
                                         
                                        Don't touch me. Can we just can we just agree that both crypto bros and people who overly believe in horoscopes are both awful?
                                         
    
                                        No, I do not
                                         
                                        I do not believe that people who overly believe in horoscopes are awful. I don't think they're awful people
                                         
                                        I think that they are looking for certainty and I can identify with that because the world and life is so uncertain
                                         
                                        That sometimes it's nice to like feel as though you have a little bit of control and they're not awful people
                                         
                                        They're not awful. Let me rephrase this the people who discriminate against other people for their zodiac signs
                                         
                                        Those people are awful. Those people are
                                         
                                        Awful guided sure it helps them if you believe in astrology. That's fine. Just don't be an ass about it
                                         
                                        Sure. Yeah, same thing. If you think crypto's the future, that's fine. Don't be an ass about it. Yeah
                                         
    
                                        I have a peanut allergy just because you don't don't eat peanut butter in front of me. I will die
                                         
                                        Don't be a fucking dick about it. Like you could say that about anything. I think that's a very you could say that about anything
                                         
                                        Like I am a democrat. You are in the green party. Like just because I oh that was my next question
                                         
                                        Like just because we don't have similar beliefs and I love drinking out of plastic water bottles
                                         
                                        Like don't come at me, bro. Like don't be a jerk to me
                                         
                                        I don't know like you could say that about anything just because I go to church and you don't don't be a jerk to me
                                         
                                        You go to church. I don't go to church. I haven't been
                                         
                                        All right, that was a good debate topic next time
                                         
    
                                        Honestly, we could probably talk about that for the entire time because I wholeheartedly disagree with you
                                         
                                        We could but I think our listeners would rather us move on. I got something pretty juicy here, honey
                                         
                                        Which franchise is more dead? Which franchise is more dead the hunger games or game of thrones?
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        That's a good one. Wow. That's a movie we watched recently too. Yeah, we watched hunger games like a week ago
                                         
                                        We tried to I stopped fell asleep. Yeah fell asleep
                                         
                                        You know what's funny is that I never thought of myself as like one of those people that falls asleep during movies
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, no, that's you and I feel like I'm constantly being like, oh, no
                                         
    
                                        I fell asleep. Well, if you're not falling asleep during movies, you're like you're you're texting through them
                                         
                                        Okay, let me just get real with everybody. I'm really quickly because you haven't been real yet. I always thought
                                         
                                        Game of Thrones was overrated as fuck. I have always thought that is it enjoyable?
                                         
                                        Sometimes not always. Do I think there are too many characters? Absolutely. I agree with that
                                         
                                        It makes it straight up unenjoyable. How many characters there are it would be the equivalent of if you took like dexter
                                         
                                        Yeah, and like every single person that dexter killed you involve their families and keep them in the storyline the entire time
                                         
                                        It game throws is kind of like it eight seasons
                                         
                                        You have to be like, oh, who was that? Oh, that was that guy that you remember season four
                                         
    
                                        Like he killed like four people in that one episode
                                         
                                        But there he remember he was the second guy that he killed in that episode and he put him in a boat and dropped him into
                                         
                                        If you're a real fan, you'd remember. Okay, so game of thrones has always been hella
                                         
                                        Overrated, okay
                                         
                                        I will stand by that the only time that I have watched game of thrones and been like
                                         
                                        Literally like not even like this is great television
                                         
                                        But this is hella like I'm glued to the tv
                                         
                                        I guess like because I can't tear myself away
                                         
    
                                        Season one not even the whole season
                                         
                                        But the beginning where like Cersei and Jaime are first revealed to be together
                                         
                                        By the way, watch that with my brother so awkward
                                         
                                        That's awesome. I didn't know that that's awesome. He read all the books or all the books that are available
                                         
                                        Wow, like when season one came out
                                         
                                        He was all up on the books and shit and like I'm like watching this with oh so so anyway
                                         
                                        And then when uh Sean Bean dies, you know, yeah, and then I was shocking and then the other guy died
                                         
                                        Season one that was a big deal
                                         
    
                                        King something if he doesn't name Barbarathian Barathian. Yeah. Yeah, and then um season three with the red wedding red wedding. Yeah after that
                                         
                                        Oh my like even when John Snow died. I didn't give a shit. Oh, yeah, he knew he'd come back
                                         
                                        Oh, we're gonna kill people but then we bring them back. It's like no, it's kind of like in harry potter
                                         
                                        I always had a lot of questions about how okay wait, so if dumbledore died
                                         
                                        Why can't we just like paint a painting of him and then just talk to the painting?
                                         
                                        Right, right
                                         
                                        Well, I don't get it like all the other paintings would talk
                                         
                                        To you and they'd like travel in between other paintings and go talk to the like other care
                                         
    
                                        I don't know. Anyway, so I'm gonna say that
                                         
                                        I don't think hunger games ever reached the level that game of thrones did and what do they say the
                                         
                                        Taller they are the oh the harder they fall. What is it the bigger they are the bigger they fall the bigger they are
                                         
                                        You're almost there the harder they fall
                                         
                                        Thus because game of thrones was I think way more popular than hunger games ever was
                                         
                                        At least for a much more extended period of time. It fell harder and is way more dead final answer game of thrones
                                         
                                        Okay, that entire tirade. I had no idea which side you're gonna end up on. I'm forced to debate the other side
                                         
                                        Well, no, I mean you haven't been though. You haven't been following that rule the whole time. No, I have not but
                                         
    
                                        I guess you're a little agnostic with the rules too. Just pick and choose what we feel like we're believing in
                                         
                                        I guess I won't believe in god, but I'll believe in hell. La la la la. It's like cafeteria religion. Anyway, continue. Are you done? Yes
                                         
                                        Hunger games
                                         
                                        Jack, what did you think of the hunger games since you recently watched it? Yeah, the first one
                                         
                                        Yeah, I thought it was fine, but I didn't think it was amazing. I thought it was a fun single movie
                                         
                                        Not something to make an entire yeah franchise out of you thought a movie about a bunch of teenagers
                                         
                                        Killing each other. That's fine starving dying being brutally wounded. It's fine for all of
                                         
                                        Literally the world to watch. Mm-hmm. You thought that was fun. It was fun for you. I didn't say fun. I said fun
                                         
    
                                        Fine. No, you said fun. I did. Yes. It was fun. It was a good ride
                                         
                                        But here's the thing. Yeah game of thrones was the hottest show for a very long time until it really wasn't until they just
                                         
                                        Butchered the last couple of seasons and that that ending that whole last season
                                         
                                        But the hunger games it was hot for a much shorter amount of time
                                         
                                        There was a period where the first two movies the second movie was a pinnacle
                                         
                                        The second movie was the peak of its popularity rave reviews. The second movie got I remember that really? Yeah
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, wow that was the one that I was like, oh, I don't want to watch this is stupid
                                         
                                        And then they did that fucking meme where they take the third book very popular movie of the time
                                         
    
                                        Split it up into two movies. Yes the twilight series the harry potter series and then now the hunger games series
                                         
                                        I think that fucking killed it if they weren't greedy if they just kept it all in one movie
                                         
                                        It could be a pretty solid contender. I don't think it would have rivaled like harry potter or anything
                                         
                                        But like I think by the time the fourth and final hunger games movie came out
                                         
                                        No one gave a shit because the third movie was so blah the third movie
                                         
                                        I think the third movie killed the third movie killed the franchise
                                         
                                        You think the third mocking jay part one fourth
                                         
                                        Movie, but the third no because I think the fourth movie was better than the third
                                         
    
                                        But nothing happens in the third. It's all build up for the fourth. I actually think I do remember that
                                         
                                        I read the books
                                         
                                        So watching the movies it's like almost hard to like watch it without being
                                         
                                        Biased a little because you know where the story is going
                                         
                                        For the most part and so it's hard to see it clearly a lot of times because I could see like rewatching the first one now
                                         
                                        I'm like, wow, they're just like they're flying through this plot like it's like bam bam
                                         
                                        And then we're there and then we're there and then we're there and now we're in the now we're in it
                                         
                                        And now we're like doing this and then we're doing that and I remember like in the movie
                                         
    
                                        She was with rue for like four seconds. Yeah, like I literally like went to the bathroom
                                         
                                        Had to see I haven't really met rue yet. All of a sudden I come back from the bathroom rue is dead
                                         
                                        Yeah, like and and you feel nothing because there's no like but like attachment the attachment in the book
                                         
                                        I remember being like really attached to like watching it in the movie the first time
                                         
                                        I remember like I remember feeling it because I knew what rue represented and what that was
                                         
                                        Anyway, so man now we're gonna have to watch all four fucking hunger games movies
                                         
                                        Can we skip the third? I think it's the shrek 3 of hunger games movies
                                         
                                        I don't think anything like because I remember the second movie of the higher games ends with like the promise of revolution
                                         
    
                                        You know, they carry cat and it's out of the biosphere or whatever the fuck and they're like welcome to the revolution mother fucker
                                         
                                        And and you're all like amped up the credits roll and you're like, oh, here we fucking go
                                         
                                        Oh, she's gonna overthrow, you know president snow
                                         
                                        It's gonna be dope pan am right and then the third movie happens
                                         
                                        And it's just build up build up build up build up build up up credits roll
                                         
                                        And you're like what the fuck and then the fourth movie comes out six or higher people actually die in the fourth movie
                                         
                                        They have some cool traps in the fourth movie. Oh, you remember a lot about this. Yeah, but it doesn't matter
                                         
                                        Did we see it together? I think we did. I think we did. No, we did
                                         
    
                                        But it doesn't matter because the third movie killed the momentum. It killed it
                                         
                                        It was the it was the dexter season eight
                                         
                                        Of hunger games movies. Who do we write a letter to who do we write a letter to catness catness everdeen?
                                         
                                        But that's the thing like
                                         
                                        The franchise is dead because we no longer see what's the actress's name. We played cat Jennifer Lawrence
                                         
                                        We don't even see Jennifer Lawrence as catness anymore. What do you mean?
                                         
                                        We see her as like joy from the movie joy
                                         
                                        And that's a deep cut shit
                                         
    
                                        I mean relatively speaking
                                         
                                        No, but I feel like we don't see her as the catness actress anymore. She's her own thing now
                                         
                                        But like she sucked as catness remember we guys we were watching the first movie obviously as I've said
                                         
                                        Some of the lines in the movie are so cringy. She's such a bad actress in them
                                         
                                        I'm like, how did she get this job? Like she was like come here little duck. Let me right you in little duck
                                         
                                        Yeah, we make fun a little duck every day
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        So cringe. I'll say this one other thing to support my argument that the hunger games is the deader franchise
                                         
    
                                        Religion game of thrones demon thrones was extremely meme worthy at its absolute peak. There were so many there were red wedding memes
                                         
                                        There were a king in the north memes. I uh, oh my god, so many fucking memes. I can't even remember
                                         
                                        I don't remember a single hunger games meme. Is that an exaggeration? I don't think so
                                         
                                        There are names. No, they're I don't know but there you don't there were memes
                                         
                                        They definitely made fun of that cornucopia and something
                                         
                                        You don't even know you don't even know there were memes. They were for sure memes
                                         
                                        Even at its peak it didn't hold a candle off the top of my head
                                         
                                        I'm like we could totally make a meme out of pita throwing a loaf of bread at sure that is a meme
                                         
    
                                        You know what that's fair. Yeah, like tossing it in the rain or whatever like yeah fend for yourself
                                         
                                        Sure, that's hilarious great meme moment, but you don't see it
                                         
                                        It is dead game of thrones died, you know, and there's gonna be a new um
                                         
                                        I forget what it's called like house of dragons or something all about like the origins of the targaryen family
                                         
                                        I don't give a shit. I will not be watching it because I just don't care anymore
                                         
                                        HBO is trying to get us to care again about the game of thrones franchise to me makes that more dead than anything else
                                         
                                        Is that like you guys killed something that was so great? Yeah, quote unquote
                                         
                                        I know i'm feeding into your argument right exactly. I win. I win this debate game of thrones is way deader
                                         
    
                                        I don't know it has lost its giant millions millions millions people audience
                                         
                                        That's how dead that shit is listeners if you have an opinion on which show is more dead
                                         
                                        Or any of the other things that we're debating. Please call our hotline at dad hug me 10
                                         
                                        That way I can text you and harass you if you disagree with me. That's not funny, but true
                                         
                                        very true
                                         
                                        Okay, honey. Yeah
                                         
                                        Who has better music taste you or me me times 1000
                                         
                                        Let's explore that like you don't even know music you literally only know music that was present
                                         
    
                                        If you could see my face jack jack jack jack jack jack jack jack who showed you
                                         
                                        Dave matthews band who showed me like how did you become involved with dave matthews band?
                                         
                                        I guess my sister. How did you become involved with ben folds? I don't recall like i'm trying to remember
                                         
                                        He came to my college. How did I get involved with ben folds?
                                         
                                        Wow, it must mean a lot to you. Oh, I oh it may have been my sister first girlfriend in college
                                         
                                        Okay, what other music do you even listen to like do you listen to music?
                                         
                                        Okay, here's that. Yeah, huh? Well, I'm into little nausex. No. Yeah, how how into little nausex industry babies a jam
                                         
                                        it's about um and uh, you know, I like some doji cat if it were for me being on tiktok
                                         
    
                                        You wouldn't fucking know anything about little nausex
                                         
                                        Just wait until you get to your music tastes, but I like for not chili peppers, you know
                                         
                                        They're older stuff, of course
                                         
                                        Look, it's it's less about how good my music tastes are and much more about how bad your music tastes are
                                         
                                        Tell me to describe. Please. I'm so excited. Describe how bad my music taste is
                                         
                                        I would love to hear why you think that I do hold on
                                         
                                        Can we just like do you actually think I have bad taste in music?
                                         
                                        Why did I include it?
                                         
    
                                        I am so bad right now. Are you kidding me? I knew you would be you think I have bad taste in music
                                         
                                        Not bad, but worse than mine. No, you don't have taste in music
                                         
                                        You don't have any music that you listen to. Can I pay a picture music that you listen to?
                                         
                                        I introduced you to can I that is not a taste in music
                                         
                                        Can I paint a picture for our listeners? Every single song that you write sounds exactly the same. Whoa
                                         
                                        Yeah, I said it. You have no taste in music. All right. It's not that you have bad taste. You have no taste
                                         
                                        It doesn't exist
                                         
                                        So when we drive to and from the gym that we go to
                                         
    
                                        place
                                         
                                        the same
                                         
                                        Five songs. That's not true. That's not true. I have my entire
                                         
                                        I it's Britney Spears. It's backstreet boys. You okay. Yes. Great. Great Hamilton. Great
                                         
                                        Um, maybe Christina Aguilera great just more very like oh, oh, you're just gonna stop there. You know
                                         
                                        Why do you you say that like it's a bad thing? That's not bad music. That's amazing music. That is fantastic
                                         
                                        Tell me you don't get pumped for the gym on the ride over. Tell me you don't tell me. I'm sorry. I forgot and wop
                                         
                                        Certified freak man. Yeah seven days a week. It's a great song. It's the same five song. That's not true
                                         
    
                                        That's not true. That's not true. Who introduced you to five baby when the lights go out. Not you. Yes. Yes, huh?
                                         
                                        I knew that song when I was in middle school. Yes, I reintroduced it to you. Who introduced you to faded
                                         
                                        Who introduced you to soul decision faded you you did who introduced you to Jackson brown?
                                         
                                        Oh, you did. Yeah, huh? Yep
                                         
                                        What are you looking up? What are you looking at? I'm looking at my itunes
                                         
                                        I'm looking up what I most recently played on itunes. Who introduced you to Olivia Rodrigo
                                         
                                        Tick tock who introduced you to Lil Nas X who introduced you to Duleepa
                                         
                                        Hold on who introduced you to doja cat. You did not me me me. I didn't introduce me to Lil Nas X
                                         
    
                                        Yes, I did. Did you? Yes, I did. How from tick tock. You didn't know who he was before tick tock
                                         
                                        I don't know about that. Yes. Yes. And by the way, it's not just the same five songs
                                         
                                        You may have named five artists and yes, they are very frequent art. What about Kelly Clarkson? Love Kelly Clarkson
                                         
                                        Oh my god. What about the mistletones? Yeah, huh? Yep. Yep. Yep. What about Keith urban?
                                         
                                        We listed a Keith urban the other day and carry under one we listed a herd the other day Taylor Swift
                                         
                                        You didn't even name Taylor Swift. You know, oh my god, you know that shit's good
                                         
                                        I didn't mention Taylor Swift. You're right guys. I think Aaron is genuinely mad
                                         
                                        I am because your music taste consists of things my sister introduced me to no or my
                                         
    
                                        Ex-girlfriend from my first year in college both sides that you have zero taste in music
                                         
                                        You don't have any exposure to new music
                                         
                                        Everything that I've introduced you to has opened up your world to new things and yeah, Hamilton is
                                         
                                        Fucking amazing musical and it's great music as is wicked as I forgot wicked. Okay, all great things
                                         
                                        It is a lot of wicked. What about Adele? We've got some Adele here
                                         
                                        I've got Amy Winehouse
                                         
                                        Ariana Grande
                                         
                                        Ashley Simpson we listened to that the other day try talking shit on her bb. Matt. I would love to touch it on Ashley
                                         
    
                                        bb. Mac Billy Eilish Billy Eilish. Okay. It's got some bush. What's bush bush the band? I'm drawing a blank
                                         
                                        You don't know bush. What do they do that song shallow that I sing not the oh not shallow swallowed swallowed
                                         
                                        Oh, okay. What the hell's wrong with you, man? Good Jonas brothers
                                         
                                        You know, that's some good shit. Oh, oh, I don't even need to go on
                                         
                                        I win you have horrible taste in music. I have amazing taste in music
                                         
                                        Look, I may have not thought this uh topic of debate thoroughly. Yeah, we're gonna move on and pretend it didn't happen
                                         
                                        Are you having an identity crisis because you realize you don't actually have any taste in music?
                                         
                                        Like you're like, I don't listen to music. I guess. Do I okay screw you
                                         
    
                                        Aaron yes, what is the perfect Christmas movie?
                                         
                                        Oh, that is tough perfect for what it's not tough. It is it's so tough
                                         
                                        There's so so many there are but there's a nostalgia factor. Sure. There's a comedic factor
                                         
                                        Of course, there's a heart always heartwarming always heartwarming. You have to pick one though
                                         
                                        There's snow on the ground even though it like nobody ever like has actual snow
                                         
                                        Except if you're like in alaska or something bonus points if you can tell it's fake snow. It's the best. Oh my gosh. Those are the best
                                         
                                        The lifetime movie is the fucking best when it's a blanket of cotton janks. It's the best
                                         
                                        Okay, but that is not necessarily like what makes it. No, no, but it also needs a good plot
                                         
    
                                        Like let me just share some of my favorite Christmas movies not including a very girl boss Christmas
                                         
                                        Which is still of course, which is still being written and worked on as as we tape this
                                         
                                        So some of my favorites, uh my big christmas carol hilarious
                                         
                                        That's a very good heartwarming a classic tale and a retelling of a classic tale
                                         
                                        There is some music involved some and great actors and there's just the adorability factor
                                         
                                        It's a very cute movie, but then there's also the family stone
                                         
                                        Which has a wonderful cast also set in a very snowy massachusetts town. It's infinitely quotable
                                         
                                        Infinitely quotable. We I was just quoting it the other day. You sure what will you always do? Yeah great cast great storyline
                                         
    
                                        Honestly, I have literally seen that movie over 250 times. Oh, yeah
                                         
                                        I used to watch it going to sleep at night in college over and over
                                         
                                        You can like a gun to your head. I think you could write out the entire
                                         
                                        Script from memory line by line. I could that's like one of the movies
                                         
                                        I could probably like if I wanted to fall asleep at night instead of counting sheep
                                         
                                        Yeah, just try to like piece the movie back together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, that's one of them
                                         
                                        Okay, so my big christmas carol family stone obviously the mistletones
                                         
                                        I love it because it involves bright colors
                                         
    
                                        I love bright colors. You do love your bright colors upbeat music a romance subplot. Is it the perfect christmas movie though?
                                         
                                        I'm not sure. Okay, but then then there's also
                                         
                                        Stalling my god
                                         
                                        What are some other favorite christmas movies of mine? Uh window wonderland. Oh, that's a great one. That's a good one
                                         
                                        That's a you see you even you really like that one. Yeah, that was a good one
                                         
                                        Didn't the actor from that like tweet at you or something when you tweeted at him
                                         
                                        I think he either retweeted or liked my tweet quote tweeted or something
                                         
                                        But I was talking about how much you were like this movie probably sucks and then you're like wow
                                         
    
                                        This actor is actually super good. Like he's so good. Why isn't he in more things?
                                         
                                        By the way guys, if you guys come across window wonderland, I think it was a lifetime original movie. Yeah
                                         
                                        The main actor in it is so good
                                         
                                        Um steals the show steals the show. He's like a young. What's the guy from community's name? Uh, joel mackayl joel mackayl
                                         
                                        He's like a young joel mackayl. Oh, I agree. Yeah, they kind of look alike
                                         
                                        They have a very similar demeanor kind of mannerism. Yeah. Yeah. All right
                                         
                                        You have to pick one and then I get to pick it apart and tell you why you're wrong
                                         
                                        Perfect christmas movie muppet christmas carol final answer. It's an extremely strong contender. I too enjoy muppet christmas carol
                                         
    
                                        It's michael kane at his absolute best michael kind you see him at his grumpiest and you see him at his jolliest
                                         
                                        It's a beautiful wide range
                                         
                                        Right
                                         
                                        Another very quotable movie to be sure
                                         
                                        But if i'm being honest, uh, it was never much of a muppets fan. What I never got like
                                         
                                        I love that movie. I never got the whole like, oh, I love the muppets. I never got the muppets craze
                                         
                                        I never grew up with this like warm fuzzy
                                         
                                        Feeling for the muppets, which is why partially not why but like my perfect christmas movie
                                         
    
                                        Don't you dare in fact the perfect christmas movie
                                         
                                        It would be a little diddy called national ampoules christmas vacation. Oh my god. Are you scared?
                                         
                                        I thought you were gonna say scrooge
                                         
                                        And I was about to fucking throw down now. Wait a minute. I
                                         
                                        was about to throw down because
                                         
                                        It's a scrooge is a very close second. I love scrooge and I will defend it to my deathbed
                                         
                                        It's bill murray at his bill murray. It's not heartwarming though. It's not a heart. It is. No. No, it's not. Have you seen it?
                                         
                                        It's there's so much darkness before you get to any
                                         
    
                                        You need you need darkness to see the light erin. It takes you to the depths of hell
                                         
                                        It is like here's your christmas
                                         
                                        Let me take you to the depths of hell show you dead bodies
                                         
                                        Literally make you watch me do all top seas on people
                                         
                                        But then you find out that like oh, but the cat from next door lived
                                         
                                        That's the equivalent of how much of a heartwarming story scrooge is
                                         
                                        Scrooge is the worst worst christmas movie. I mean not worst worst, but like it's it is probably a lot of fun
                                         
                                        No, it's not. It's not a lot of fun at all. It's terrifying. It is nightmare inducing
                                         
    
                                        How about like the ghost that like takes him through like the stages or whatever and she's like is played by that
                                         
                                        Lillian chick from um unbreakable. I'm unbreakable. Can we schmidt? Yeah terrifying
                                         
                                        Not terrifying terrifying. I think it's a little cringy. They overdue the slapstick in those scenes
                                         
                                        And that's why like some of the slapstick gets a little annoying if i'm you know
                                         
                                        Going to be a stickler for it. So it gets knocked down a couple of pigs for the overuse of slapstick. No, um, she's great though
                                         
                                        She's wonderful. No nightmare inducing it will literally give you nightmares
                                         
                                        But my top favorite not at all, you know
                                         
                                        Rose glass is tinted with nostalgia and seeing it with my family million times not at all is uh national ampoune's
                                         
    
                                        Christmas vacation and here's why but jack. Have you seen the sequel?
                                         
                                        Uncle eddie's too soon island vacation too soon
                                         
                                        No, but i've seen the whole red letter media review on that one
                                         
                                        And it's a delight. It's amazing. They pick it apart in a beautiful way or is it cousin it?
                                         
                                        Whatever, anyway, I think cuz yeah, you're right
                                         
                                        Not uncle cousin because I made the same mistake in that podcast. Yeah, here's why I have to defend myself, right?
                                         
                                        So yes, I am a bit um a biased in that this is 100 a family movie
                                         
                                        It's just it's something that we always watch together every christmas for the last, you know
                                         
    
                                        20 fucking christmases at least and I'm sure we'll see it again this year at some point
                                         
                                        But it's our family stone. We can quote it forwards and backwards
                                         
                                        Yeah, I enjoy it because it is laugh out loud funny. It's edgy, you know for a family friendly christmas movie
                                         
                                        It's got some edge like chevy chase like flips to do it off. It's great
                                         
                                        You couldn't do that in a pg movie now, but you couldn't the 80s was a different time
                                         
                                        It's got the single greatest rant. I believe ever recorded ever filmed, you know
                                         
                                        You brainless dickless hopeless, you know blah blah. Oh and he's telling off his boss
                                         
                                        He's telling off his boss and he ends with like, you know, where's the tylenol? It's amazing. It's this amazing rant. It's just it's beautiful
                                         
    
                                        I don't know. I don't think he compares to vegas vacation though. Oh my god. Don't fucking get me started on your obsession
                                         
                                        with vegas vacation
                                         
                                        The inferior national ampoum movie, um, but I need to defend this more. Why does this movie work so well?
                                         
                                        It's cousin eddy at his absolute best. No vegas vacation and and and his subsequent island adventures where he's at his best
                                         
                                        No, they're so wrong at the heart of this movie is this family man being pushed to his absolute
                                         
                                        limit and everything like his cousin and kids staying with him and uh,
                                         
                                        Not you know, I'm waiting. Oh, no, no
                                         
                                        Waiting and waiting and waiting for his boss to give him this raise
                                         
    
                                        That's just kind of like he's just dependent upon this raise and when he gets to that pushing point when he snaps
                                         
                                        Because things don't go his way. Everything falls apart. It's amazing
                                         
                                        The movie turns from great to amazing and it still retains the christmas spirit and it's funny
                                         
                                        First and foremost above all else. It's funny. You know what else is funny
                                         
                                        What's that?
                                         
                                        I'm up at christmas carol and it's sure act nobody flips anybody off and it's still funny
                                         
                                        And you know what? You don't need to be edgy to be funny jack. This is christmas. You don't seem to be wholesome
                                         
                                        Okay, it doesn't need to be wholesome. It does. No, that's what christmas is all about is god. Remember?
                                         
    
                                        It's jesus's birthday. We must be wholesome for jesus
                                         
                                        This isn't about flipping people off or being upset with what's given to you. You need to be grateful
                                         
                                        Hey, look it's a deer. We need to be grateful for what you have in national ampoune's christmas vacation
                                         
                                        Is the antithesis look chevy chase horrible man amazing in national ampoune's christmas vacation
                                         
                                        No, amazing. I'm gonna go ahead and say I win this one. It is fun for the whole family includes classics such as a christmas carol by
                                         
                                        What's this? Who wrote a christmas carol dickens?
                                         
                                        Orc twain rl stein
                                         
                                        But but it's a musical not everyone likes musicals
                                         
    
                                        Some people think musicals are cringe. You even admitted. It's barely a musical
                                         
                                        They cut a whole fucking song from a muppet's christmas carol because it was too sad because it was too cringe
                                         
                                        No, because it was too sad the kids in the theater are like, yo, this is fucking cringe, dude. You're supposed to cringe
                                         
                                        No, go on youtube. You guys can see the video. It's a beautiful song. It's a beautiful song for a children's movie
                                         
                                        It's fucking slow as shit. You're slow as shit. What is it's like something with love like Jesus?
                                         
                                        What a downer I want to shoot myself. It's so like, oh my god. Can we get back to the muppets?
                                         
                                        Listen, he had been treating her like shit because he was too focused on money
                                         
                                        Wow, it sounds so fun and he tried to say like i'm doing this for us and it's like bullshit
                                         
    
                                        Don't gaslight me bro. Wow. Where can I rent this fun movie? It is so funny
                                         
                                        Gonzo as charles dickens is amazing like the lamp not the rat like the lamp not the rat
                                         
                                        It's adorable. You guys will laugh out loud
                                         
                                        Turn on subtitles though so that you can make sure you understand every line
                                         
                                        Sometimes they speak very quickly or in like, you know, they're character voices. So it's hard to understand
                                         
                                        You know in beaker talks, you know, it sounds like he's saying
                                         
                                        But it's actually saying, you know, she experienced a little cool. It's adorable. Michael kane at his best
                                         
                                        It is Michael kane is his best. I I agree. He is the highlight of that movie. It's amazing. Please
                                         
    
                                        I win this one muppet chris of scarol forever
                                         
                                        I think he recently said that that was his favorite roller at least the role he had the most fun with
                                         
                                        Honestly, it's amazing. You can tell you can tell because he you can tell do you think chevy chase was like
                                         
                                        National ampoules christmas vacation yet. I was definitely my favorite role of all time. I don't know
                                         
                                        Of course. I don't really care because he's an asshole. Of course not. Of course not
                                         
                                        I hope it was hell for him because it's a great delivery. Of course not that
                                         
                                        That rant probably took a million takes that couldn't have been easy to film. It doesn't matter. I'm up at christmas carol forever. Goodbye
                                         
                                        All right tick tock
                                         
    
                                        All right, all right
                                         
                                        Honey elephant falls in the forest. Did you hear it? What?
                                         
                                        That's what they say that's what she said. What was that?
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        So dumb
                                         
                                        Oh my god, I hate myself. Okay. I can't choose between two
                                         
                                        Topics and we have to choose. There can be only one left. So okay, I'm going to ask you these two questions
                                         
                                        You have to tell me which one you would rather answer. Okay. All right. What I'm gonna tell you is which which one I feel strongest about
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that's that's fine. Okay question one of two question one. Who would you rather fuck banjo or kazooie?
                                         
                                        No, we're not doing that one question two
                                         
                                        Nope. Nope. I'm not doing that. Who's hotter
                                         
                                        Minions with two eyes or minions with one eye
                                         
                                        Really? Really? We have we have we have other questions. Really jack? You don't like either of those?
                                         
                                        No, I don't like either of those. All right. I hear here's another one
                                         
                                        Which sequel is more forgettable? And by the way, we have seen both of these movies hunger games three. No, no, no
                                         
                                        In fact, it's actually specific. Which picks our movie
                                         
    
                                        Sequel is more forgettable monsters university
                                         
                                        Or Incredibles 2 we've seen both. I think we have seen both. We have seen both. Okay. So here's the thing
                                         
                                        Oh, okay. I like this one. I know one really talks about either. I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this. Yeah, let's go
                                         
                                        Okay, I doubt you will there's not really a strong fandom for either. No, uh, I disagree
                                         
                                        I think a lot of people like love the Incredibles. Well the first one sure tell me here's the thing
                                         
                                        I think both Incredibles movies. Oh, here we go. Incredibly overrated. Disgusting
                                         
                                        Incredibly overrated, but but go on it. Um, you know, really no
                                         
                                        Embellish no emotional interests in the Incredibles or their weird family at all at all. They're not weird. They're gifted. No, they're weird
                                         
    
                                        They're weird and how dare you I don't appreciate that family. Oh, yeah at all the only good character
                                         
                                        I heard you go the and I wanted you to say what was that
                                         
                                        The only good character is that small little fashion lady. Sure. Edna. Yeah, something. Edna mode mode. Yeah, Edna mode. I think yeah
                                         
                                        Dolly. Um, yeah, I think actually anything to do with the Incredibles one
                                         
                                        Hello cringe
                                         
                                        Incredibles
                                         
                                        An incredibly forgettable. Good one great pun incredibly
                                         
                                        Me I remember more about the movie mega mind than I do about Incredibles or Incredibles 2
                                         
    
                                        Okay, now, let me tell you a little something about monsters university. Okay, that is an underrated movie
                                         
                                        I think Pixar did that movie dirty because it did not get the hype that they've given
                                         
                                        Other Pixar movies. I don't think they marketed it the same way that they don't think no, I think that that's interesting
                                         
                                        I think that they thought it was a throwaway movie for some reason
                                         
                                        Sure, and I don't think they gave it the oomph that it deserved and I remember very much enjoying monsters university
                                         
                                        And I will say the original monsters ink
                                         
                                        Great movie great movie. We're not one of the that's irrelevant. No, it's not irrelevant
                                         
                                        It's not irrelevant because they are tied together. They go hand in hand and it's a sequel
                                         
    
                                        The first Incredibles being meh and the second Incredibles being extra meh
                                         
                                        Monsters university would not have been as good as it was if monsters ink wasn't as good as it was together
                                         
                                        They are a tag team
                                         
                                        Super duper duo and monsters university way better than Incredibles 2 final answer and way underrated
                                         
                                        Here's why you're wrong for the following reasons the hype for Incredibles 2 was actually quite immense because people
                                         
                                        Wanted a sequel for the Incredibles very much so people felt much more strongly for the Incredibles than they did for monsters ink
                                         
                                        The best thing about Incredibles 2 was the Pixar short bow that played in the beginning of Incredibles 2
                                         
                                        Forgot about that. That was a good one. The family lives on in Incredibles 2 honey
                                         
    
                                        Did you know that Disney plus currently has a monsters ink tv show? No, I try not to spend that much time on you didn't
                                         
                                        Plus yeah, but you didn't know no, I didn't I don't spend that much time on Disney plus
                                         
                                        And that's because no one gives a shit about the monsters ink universe anymore
                                         
                                        Excuse you. Is John Goodman still a voice actor? Yes
                                         
                                        He voices solely and you didn't even know that he still voices solely no because I told you
                                         
                                        I don't spend that much time on Disney plus
                                         
                                        I try not to also you changed the password and ruined all the devices and then I changed it back
                                         
                                        Still ruined all the devices because that's how good of a man. I log them all out selfish
                                         
    
                                        Oh, I can't get on Disney plus. I've just changed the password and not tell anybody you're slander of the original Incredibles movie
                                         
                                        Really like left a a pit in my heart honey a real dark spot. It was not that good a movie
                                         
                                        It's it was extremely good movie. I would say it was like the same as inside out
                                         
                                        Which was also just a meh movie. Absolutely not. No, this is what Pixar does
                                         
                                        They get people with like oh if we just make it bright colors and cute little characters
                                         
                                        They won't even care about what the fuck the plot is if we just make it visually interesting
                                         
                                        That's what they did with soul. It was both a loving homage and a witty parody of the golden age of comic book
                                         
                                        Superheroes. I'm gritting my teeth. No that you you thought it was overrated. It was over. I'm so mad
                                         
    
                                        No, you're not spit. Are you even
                                         
                                        Shut up. You're not even mad. You don't care because you agree. I should quite liked it
                                         
                                        I saw a movie theaters the first Incredibles. I didn't when I was a young little boy
                                         
                                        I saw it with my then girlfriend uh in high school. You didn't have a girlfriend in high school
                                         
                                        I did you didn't we I don't remember if we held hands during the movie, but we could have didn't
                                         
                                        Ew so sweaty so much sweat. Oh, I would have been a nervous boy if she took my hand then I remember liking the movie a lot
                                         
                                        I thought it was like really clever because it was no what came first
                                         
                                        Was Incredibles like I think incredible Incredibles came after monster sink. Really? Yeah, I think monster sink came first
                                         
    
                                        Okay, and then at some point the monster sink was so much better. It's a great movie monster sink. It's great
                                         
                                        No, it's fantastic. Do you remember what happens in monster sink too? You mean monsters university? Yes. Yeah, they go to college
                                         
                                        Yeah, but like what happens though. I don't remember. Yeah, of course not
                                         
                                        I don't remember what happens in any but either of the Incredibles though. So there you go
                                         
                                        You said you liked Edna. She's a tiny little lady. Who'd you like in um, who'd you like in uh, uh monsters university?
                                         
                                        I would say that Mike Wazowski is my favorite character. Oh, yeah, what's your favorite line? He says in the second movie
                                         
                                        Hey, Shalene get over here. Yeah fucking dipshit. I did like that line
                                         
                                        classic John Goodman
                                         
    
                                        No, that's billy crystal. Oh billy crystal says that. Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. I'm sorry. He's Mike Wazowski
                                         
                                        Hey, shalene. Yeah
                                         
                                        Fucking dipshit get over here. Waka. Waka. We're in college. I love that scene
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Can we just call it a day and like just say I won I won I won debate night your choices suck
                                         
                                        You don't even remember Incredibles 2. I will say this. I remember more. I'll tell you what happened in bow
                                         
                                        But I don't I can't tell you what happened in Incredibles 2
                                         
                                        How about this? I will concede defeat and say that you are a generally much better debater than I am
                                         
    
                                        You're much feistier and more passionate and I have a way even when you're wrong better taste in music than you do
                                         
                                        by far
                                         
                                        It's not that you have a better it's that I can't defend myself
                                         
                                        Nearly as well as you can defend yourself because you literally what tell me about what music you have on your phone
                                         
                                        Like do you even have music on your phone? No, I don't because music has changed drastically
                                         
                                        The the digital distribution has changed dramatically in the last 15 years. Okay. Let me let me tell you a little bit about my
                                         
                                        I want to resurrect my old iPod nano. Oh, you mean you want to switch to an apple product that contains all of your apple music
                                         
                                        We're not talking about android versus apple. That was our previous debate night, which i'm still salty about you
                                         
    
                                        Literally just said I want to resurrect my iPod nano like you're like I loved that thing
                                         
                                        It was a great product because it's an apple product
                                         
                                        And it's now owned by apple music. It was a steve jobs era apple product
                                         
                                        It's apple now look at him the products. I mean excuse you. Yeah gone to shit may he rest iphone 13 more like iphone been there
                                         
                                        Done that he's gone to the grave not shit jack. Okay god. It's not
                                         
                                        Funny you had so many problems with your new ipad erin just got a new like no no no no so many problems
                                         
                                        No, let me tell you what I figured it out
                                         
                                        Tell me it was because I was transferring the information from my old ipad
                                         
    
                                        My old ipad was connected to my work through a vpn the work vpn is what screwed up my old ipad
                                         
                                        So i'm not connecting my new ipad to my work anymore
                                         
                                        Can I say I love vpns and everyone should check out norvpn.com
                                         
                                        It's a different type of vpn. It's a stupid company owned vpn that I can't do anything with oh you should try mine
                                         
                                        This isn't interesting. Okay, we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on wait move on to what honey
                                         
                                        We're moving on to our second week of madly the harvest school
                                         
                                        It's not spooky season anymore. We're well into Thanksgiving season
                                         
                                        So embrace the loving warm charming
                                         
    
                                        Orange and brown colors
                                         
                                        red
                                         
                                        brown
                                         
                                        The leaves are dead and falling
                                         
                                        It's we're embracing the the cornucopias and fall and the heat being turned on and it being chilly and having
                                         
                                        It's comfy season everybody. I love comfy season pumpkin this week. Ah those fucking gods man
                                         
                                        They still they have their out of office turned on they won't answer phone calls. They never even got their pto approved
                                         
                                        Jack, what does pto stand for? Uh pretty tangy oasis. Oh, that's right. Okay. So this week
                                         
    
                                        We will be once again doing a mad libs horoscope for our friends
                                         
                                        Scorpio and jack will you please i'm gonna ask you for a number of things words phrases. Yes
                                         
                                        Say them with your mouth
                                         
                                        Out loud. God. I married such a poet
                                         
                                        A true wordsmith
                                         
                                        Say
                                         
                                        Honey, you should have been a writer
                                         
                                        I am a writer
                                         
    
                                        Oh, that's a shame
                                         
                                        Okay jack film i'm gonna ask you
                                         
                                        Give me a number of things
                                         
                                        And just give up to me and then you are going to be
                                         
                                        Today's god if you will
                                         
                                        When it comes to always wanted to be today's god
                                         
                                        When it comes to
                                         
                                        Scorpio's horoscope. Okay. Okay. Give me an adjective frumpy. Give me another adjective
                                         
    
                                        Wet give me a curse word. Shit. Can you give me a curse word in the form of an adjective?
                                         
                                        Like like so it'd be like shit tea. Fucky. What is something you'd call someone to insult them?
                                         
                                        Mouth breather
                                         
                                        I feel like i'm in the hot seat of like the hundred thousand dollar pyramid or something
                                         
                                        What is a measurement slash like period of time or unit of time nanosecond
                                         
                                        Could you give me a descriptor of a personality type?
                                         
                                        Like how might you describe somebody's personality? Gotcha. Um, uh, uh mousy
                                         
                                        Give me a flavor vanilla. Give me another zodiac sign capricorn. This is fun
                                         
    
                                        I like being on this side of it last week. I was on the other. It was a nice change of pace
                                         
                                        Could you give me a bodily function ending in ing?
                                         
                                        Literally anything that a body does at all oozing b1. Sure. Okay. It's just a good word
                                         
                                        Could you give me the name of a fictional character dobby? Could you give me something that dobby would say?
                                         
                                        Dobby is free so
                                         
                                        Classic dobby, you know what i'm saying listeners. You get it. Could you give me the name of a youtuber? Dave days
                                         
                                        Could you give me the name of a tiktok star? Oh god?
                                         
                                        I'll try. Um, who's the makeup person? Oh, mackayla
                                         
    
                                        uh
                                         
                                        Aguero no or something mackayla mackayla, uh, neguero mackayla mackayla. Hold on. Let me look up her name really. Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        No, guera mackayla
                                         
                                        No, no, guera. No, guera mackayla. No, guera. Okay. Could you give me the name of an electronic assistant?
                                         
                                        Or a virtual assistant? Yeah, uh, siri. Could you give me a celebratory exclamation? Poggers
                                         
                                        Could you give me a verb?
                                         
                                        Present tense. Yes kick could you give me an article of clothing?
                                         
    
                                        Skirt and could you give me another measurement or period or unit of time time? Yes epoch what no
                                         
                                        Um fortnight. Are you ready?
                                         
                                        Jack film. I am ready. I am scorpio
                                         
                                        This scorpio season is turning out to be quite frumpy. Don't you think I do it's comfy season after all
                                         
                                        That's how I feel anyway. You know what else I feel that scorpios are taking up too much of our time
                                         
                                        And energy those wet fucking mouth breather
                                         
                                        One more nanosecond with mousy scorpio and that's it
                                         
                                        Then they have to leave the planet because we're working under a tight time frame
                                         
    
                                        Let's make this week's horoscope vanilla this week scorpio. You will be forced to hang out with capricorn
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        Everyone knows this is the worst time of year to hang out with capricorn as this is when they do the most oozing
                                         
                                        Not only that
                                         
                                        But they've picked up this weird habit where they won't stop talking like dobby. They're all like
                                         
                                        Dobby is free sir all the damn time
                                         
                                        I
                                         
                                        Wait, why can't I stop speaking like dobby?
                                         
    
                                        Scorpio, did you say that old adage? I'm rubbing your glue. Whatever you say sticks back on you
                                         
                                        Jesus scorpio, you know, that's a powerful spell
                                         
                                        Well, how about this spell for ya? I'm dave daze your macaela
                                         
                                        Nukera whatever you say will be recorded and kept as a record by siri and may be used against you in a court of law
                                         
                                        Oh my god, it works. The spell is broken
                                         
                                        Poggers, I can't wait to kick my skirt once again. See you in a fortnight
                                         
                                        God damn it. You made me talk like dobby for like half a paragraph that fucking sucked
                                         
                                        That was fun
                                         
    
                                        That was fun great horoscope and there you go scorpios remember that
                                         
                                        Someday the gods are going to come back from their extended 30 day
                                         
                                        Whatever vacation that jack film awarded them when he hired them and um,
                                         
                                        We'll have horoscopes for all the signs. I haven't forgotten that but at the meantime
                                         
                                        This is the way that we are able to do it and scorpio. It sounds like you end up on the winning side
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's one way to interpret and we freed dobby once again once again dobby is the head again of free elf
                                         
                                        Thank you guys so much. That's our 21st episode for tuning in. I was doing lemon drop shots the entire time
                                         
                                        I don't know about jack film over here, but and she didn't even use sugar. It was you know, you don't need it
                                         
    
                                        I'm sweet as sugar. It's in me. You know, that's what you want to believe. Yeah, honey guys. Thank you so much for listening
                                         
                                        Debate night once again. We're here. I won debate night again. Please you are a better debater
                                         
                                        I hate to admit it, but you are I'm mostly just louder. Um
                                         
                                        Keep tuning in and if you have any more debate topics for us or just other things you want us to quiz each other on or talk about
                                         
                                        Please call us on our hotline at dad hug me 10. Can't wait to hear from you guys
                                         
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                                        Whatever it is. She will respond. I will I it's creepy 99% of the time. I will respond. Thank you so much
                                         
                                        I can't wait to talk to you guys again. Again, also hotline number dad hug me 10. Don't forget. Mm-hmm. See you guys next week
                                         
    
                                        dobby is free
                                         
