Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - Beyond the Scalpel: Dr. Jay Calvert on Plastic Surgery, Music, and Hockey

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Renowned plastic surgeon Dr. Jay Calvert, known as the "plastic surgeon's plastic surgeon," joins us for an engaging discussion brimming with fascinating stories and expert insights. From his amusing experience facing an unusual request on the Tyra Banks show to his celebrated lecture at the Vegas Cosmetic Surgery Meeting, Dr. Calvert offers a unique perspective on the balance between professional achievement and personal passions. His journey also encompasses a love for music, nearly signing with Sony Records, and his pivotal role in bringing the Golden Knights to Las Vegas, showcasing his multifaceted interests and contributions beyond the operating room.   We delve into the truths and trends of the plastic surgery industry, uncovering the deceptive practices that some employ, like manipulated before-and-after photos, and stressing the importance of transparency. With Dr. Millicent Ravello by our side, we dissect the medical tourism rise and the potential pitfalls it poses, particularly focusing on hotspots like Turkey. Our conversation also explores the evolving popularity of procedures like Brazilian Butt Lifts and the influence of social media on beauty standards, providing a comprehensive look at the industry's current landscape.   Beyond surgeries and scalpel work, the episode rounds out with practical advice on at-home beauty and anti-aging techniques. From the benefits of medical-grade skincare products to a spirited discussion of red light therapy and dietary choices for longevity, we aim to provide listeners with actionable insights. And in a thrilling narrative twist, we recount Dr. Calvert's involvement in bringing the Vegas Golden Knights to fruition, underscoring the importance of community connection and ambition that propelled this professional hockey team to success. Whether you're interested in cosmetic surgery, music, or sports, this episode promises an engaging exploration into the lives and passions of those who excel across these fields.   CHAPTERS    (00:00) Plastic Surgeon's Journey to Success (04:37) Top Plastic Surgeon in Beverly Hills (13:04) Plastic Surgery Industry Truths (25:12) Global Plastic Surgery Trends and Dangers (35:15) Anti-Aging Health and Wellness Tips (46:00) Creating Vegas Golden Knights (48:59) Las Vegas Golden Knights Success (55:09) Hockey Passion and Fandom   💬 Did you enjoy this podcast episode? Tell us all about it in the comment section below!    ☑️  If you liked this video, consider subscribing to Escaping The Drift with John Gafford  ************* 💯 About John Gafford: After appearing on NBC's "The Apprentice", John relocated to the Las Vegas Valley and founded several successful companies in the real estate space.   ➡️ The Gafford Group at Simply Vegas, top 1% of all REALTORS nationwide in terms of production. Simply Vegas, a 500 agent brokerage with billions in annual sales Clear Title, a 7-figure full-service title and escrow company.   *************   ✅ Follow John Gafford on social media:   Instagram ▶️ / thejohngafford   Facebook ▶️ / gafford2   🎧 Stream The Escaping The Drift Podcast with John Gafford Episode here: Listen On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cWN80gtZ4m4wl3DqQoJmK?si=2d60fd72329d44a9 Listen On Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/escaping-the-drift-with-john-gafford/id1582927283    *************   #escapingthedrift #drjaycalvert #plasticsurgery #plasticsurgeon #beverlyhills #tyrabanks #vegascosmeticsurgerymeeting #medicaltourism #turkey #brazilianbuttlifts #socialmedia #beautystandards #antiaging #health #wellness #skincare #redlighttherapy #dietarychoices #vegasgoldenknights #hockey #communityconnection #ambition #nhl #stanleycup #coreyperry #connormcdavid #leondraisaitl #anzekopitar #aleksanderbarkov #fanculture

I was on the Tyra Banks show one time as an in-off, an in audience expert, and they brought on this model who wanted toe liposuction. And I think, I think I said something like you need to get your head examined. I was like, what? Like, what, what are you talking about? She's like, my toe has like a contour irregularity to it. I was like, your toe. I was like, no, I go, this doesn't,

but she was like, I was kind of like, did you guys really bring me in here for? The like I was like no, I'm not talking about this. That's not happening. Just wear socks And now escaping the drift the show designed to get you from where you are to where you want to be I'm John Gafford and I have a knack for getting extraordinary achievers to drop their secrets to help you on a path to greatness. So stop drifting along, escape the drift, and it's time to start right now. Back again, back again for another episode of the podcast like it says in the opening man gets you from where you are to where you want to be. And today in the studio, ladies, if you're listening, you're

probably going to want to listen to this one. Gents, we're talking about some cool stuff too, but this guy is, let's just call him the plastic surgeons, plastic surgeon. He is the guy that the, like the plastic surgeons you see on TV, when they want a little touch up, they go to this dude. Like this is the guy. He is world renowned as a plastic surgeon. He has one of the top firms in Beverly Hills. He also plays in a Blink 182 cover band and helped get the golden Knights to Las Vegas.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program. This is Jay Calvert. Jay, Doctor, Jay Calvert, excuse me. We're on a first name basis. So I forget the doctor, which, you know, you went to a lot of schooling and earned it, so I guess I just show you that kind of respect. Well, I appreciate that, but it's not necessary,

Jay's fine and happy to be here. This is great, I'm really excited to have a chat and talk about all those things. All those things, dude, I love when I saw that you were coming to Vegas, I was like, or you said you were coming to Vegas, I said, man, I gotta get you on the show. Because today you came in, you did a lecture

for a lot of the local plastic surgeons here in Las Vegas Correct. I did I gave it well, it's it's a it's a pretty big meeting. It's called the Vegas cosmetic surgery Meeting and it's it's been it's it was when I was going to since 2005 Started in Newport Beach then moved to the Bellagio and the guys who ran it in the Bellagio then sold it to a big company And so now this company runs it and this is my first time back since the company bought it Bellagio and the guys who ran it in the Bellagio then sold it to a big company. And so now this company runs it. And this is my first time back since the company bought it. I guess they didn't want me after they want to get rid of the old guard and bring in their own people, but they actually invited me back.

So this was cool. And I gave a rhinoplasty lecture this morning that, um, interestingly is the first time they did this. They, I finished the lecture and they go, okay, let's vote. And they put up a voting for who gave the best lecture on the panel of six lectures. Like while you're there? Like right there, right in front of you. You can see it on the screen.

Oh dude, I'm immediately taken to if you don't watch Love on the Spectrum, if you should. And there was a scene in Love on the Spectrum where a guy with autism is doing speed dating. Right. Yes. You know what I'm talking about? I saw that one. Like my other daughter, she's like, you don't like nature? No.

And they're like, guy, maybe she wait till they're gone before. Did you win today? I won. I couldn't believe it. I won with, I didn't get a majority. I got 44% of the votes. The next in line was about 36%. And then there was one guy that got one.

And my, my assistant who was there said, man, that's rough. If you're the guy that got one vote, it's like, good morning. You suck. Yeah. I was happy to win. It was cool. And you're getting voted on by a room full of your peers. Oh, by the people who just listened to the lectures.

They're all plastic surgeons that do rhinoplasty. So I was like, wait, this is, this is savage. Yeah. It was tough. Put, by the people who just listen to the lectures, they're all plastic surgeons that do rhinoplasty. So I was like, wait, this is savage. Yeah. It was tough. Put that on the resume. Well, let's go back a little bit, dude, because I firmly believe that anybody that excels to the point where you have in your career,

like that got built in you growing up. Like there's something about you that made you strive. I mean, obviously there's talent involved that's innate, but in your field, obviously you've got to develop that and that takes a lot of work and focus. So tell me about young Dr. Jake Calvert. Well, I think it was always my, I was always good at focusing on things I liked. And that's what I realized.

If I chose things I liked, I would get as good as I could at them. You know, I don't know, you know, on any, and I was, I was just, you liked, I would. Get as good as I could at them. You know, I don't know, you know, on any, and I was, I was definitely like an undiagnosed ADHD kid just doing, I was in a band, I played, you know, football. I was, uh, playing, you know, getting ready to play baseball and I wanted to play indoor soccer, and then I also had, you know, a comic book collection. And I just, I was the guy that just did a lot of stuff.

A lot of my people today who hang around with me would say, that hasn't changed. So I like doing stuff that I like. And when I do it, I focus on it and I do it really well. I find that that's one of my toxic traits that I'll see somebody doing something. I'll be like, I can totally do that. And then it just becomes this black hole of obsession for like six to eight months on something. Do you find that to be the case with you as well?

Would you see something you like? There's no thought. You're just like, I'm going to do that. If I like it and I'm inspired to do it, then I'm, I'm going to dive in. And you know, I just, I love surgery. I just, you know, when I was sitting there, there was a very, very crucial turning point in my, uh, in my life in my sophomore year of college, uh, freshman summer, my, my drummer from my high school band and I got together with a guy from, we, we, I grew up in New Jersey and, uh, he was from the next town over in

New Jersey and the three of us made a demo tape. We played out around Passaic, New Jersey in a few places. And the band was called the Sleepwalkers and the tunes were good. So we sent out the demo tape once we all went back to college. I went to Vanderbilt, my drummer was at Columbia and our guitarist was at the School of Visual Arts

in New York. Six weeks in, we get a letter back from Sony Records. Okay, you guys are good. We don't have any money for you. But what we'd like to do is send you out with as an opener to the opener. I think at the time, you know, like people didn't know who the Red Hot Chili Peppers were, but I did. And we're going to be the opener for the opener.

And they said we need nine months and we're going to test you and see how you do. And so there we are like staring it in the face and I'm sitting there with my molecular biology major and I'm sitting there with a letter from Sony records. And we all decided we weren't going to do that. Wow. And it was just like, and not one of us pushed back on it. We all were just like, how, we can't do that.

I, at the time, rock and roll and music was very different than it is today. And I said, if I do this, I probably won't make it to 30. I was pretty sure that that would be it for me. And it was, if you think about that year, it was 1987. I was a sophomore in college. It's quite like a brave time for, yeah. We were right on the front of it, right?

Yeah, yeah. You know, we were right there and had we done it, you know, who knows? I mean, the grunge thing was coming up and as I'm watching these other bands of my peers, basically the guys who are all my age, you know, making it and what they were going through, I was like, I think I made the right choice

because I don't think I could have handled it. And I needed my surgical training to really focus really focus me and to, to bring me, you know, down to earth in terms of my ability to, to succeed and to, to help people and to be a, to be a participating citizen of this world that we live in. And I really felt like my surgical training after that, I finished med school in 1994 and went to the University of Pittsburgh for seven years, seven years. I wouldn't trade for anything. It was the best, the best time for me to become what I am today.

I just got so much good training and so much education and so much, you know, like there was, there was a come to Jesus for me every single day. I walked into that hospital because you checked your ego at the door and you just said, I need to be the best I can be. You know, the best thing about the rock story for me is that all three of you decided not to do it. I had a friend of mine that graduated from college in Tallahassee at Florida

state and graduated with an accounting degree and was in a band playing out in the bars around Tallahassee. And he was like, I got a degree, you guys, I'm going to go take this accounting job and quit the band. And then the band got signed like six months later and it was Creed. Oh yeah. Literally not like an opener for the opener shot. I mean shot to the biggest band in the world, like no time. And dude took, and look, God bless him. He's in a great place now. Still a friend of mine, has an amazing company. He, right, they score movies and television

and all kinds of stuff. But dude, it took a long time to get over that. It's just- That would be tough. Yeah. I mean, you know, like I never, I never felt like I made a bad choice about that. I felt like that was exactly the right choice to make.

I still get to play guitar and, you know, I have a band with my son called 15C and, you know, we play, you know, we do a lot of Blink, a lot of Blink when we do, but a lot of Green Day. Are we calling, so it's not really a Blink when he do tribute band, there's just a lot of Blink in the set. A lot of Blink in the set. Okay, there we go, fair.

A lot of like Green Day and some, we do, and we play some old stuff too, like we do some Cure, and we do some, I'm trying to add a new order tune in. Yeah. But it's really fun I mean, and I love playing my kid. He I mean my son is uh, he is going to be in the business of music So he doesn't have any other distraction other than he's gonna be Playing and producing and and publishing music and he's learning that at a was in Nashville. Yeah, he's in Nashville He's got a strong

University for for that type of thing at Belmont and he's just he's in Nashville. He's got a strong university for that type of thing at Belmont and he's just, he's doing great. It's really cool. Well, let's talk a little bit about how you go from the guy that did your training in Pittsburgh from New Jersey to the top doc in Beverly Hills. Like that seems like, yeah, I'm gonna come out of the farm league in Iowa and then wind up starting for center field in the Yankees.

You know what I'm saying? That's what it seems like. Yeah, I mean, I don't know that I'm top of anything, but I have a... 44% of people today thought you were. That's good, and I am proud of that. That was a huge win. That's a win.

That's one of the biggest wins I've ever had, because I'm sitting there going like, are we voting on this now with me here? I'm still in the room, like stop. But it was really the thing that got me into Beverly Hills was my Pittsburgh training. I was a very reconstructively oriented plastic surgeon. And a lot of people don't understand the differences of types of plastic surgeons there are. For instance, at this Vegas cosmetic surgery meeting, there are plastic For instance, at this Vegas Cosmetic Surgery meeting there are plastic surgeons like me that are certified by the American Board of Medical Specialties Board of Plastic Surgery. That's me, a board certified

plastic surgeon. Then there are ear, nose, and throat doctors that are facial plastic surgeons that are certified by an ENT, otolaryngology, and then they do a some type of training and take a board exam for facial plastic surgery. And that board is not an ABMS, uh, medical specialty. It's just a corporation that says we're board certified. And then there are oculoplastics, which are usually ophthalmologists that do some cosmetic surgery around the orbits, around the eyes and, and brow, et cetera. And so, and then there are other people that are just internists that decided,

I want to make some money and took a weekend course in liposuction and do some threads and, and they're doing cosmetic surgery also. So those are all consider themselves plastic surgeons. I'm a plastic surgeon in the, the sense of the American board of medical specialties, plastic surgeon. So with that said, how do you get there? Well, can I ask, I don't wanna just jump by that. What percentage of people out there doing plastic surgeries are certified the way you are and what percentage is everything else?

It's very hard to get to a board certified plastic surgeon. If you throw a dart at all the plastic surgery, all the plastic surgeons that call themselves plastic surgeons, the odds are you will not hit a board certified plastic surgeon. There are roughly 7,500 of us. There are probably, I think the last number was, there are 50,000 doctors practicing plastic surgery. Not American Board of Medical.

Now that doesn't mean they're good or bad. And it, because you're a board certified plastic surgeon, doesn't mean you're good or bad. So I'm not going to sit here and disparage any surgeon who is a plastic surgeon by the, by trade or by, you know, whatever they call themselves. Cause there are plenty of people that are good and there are plenty that are not good in all walks of those lives. However, if you'd like to stack the cards in your favor,

then getting somebody who is board certified in the specialty and performs that operation a fair amount is going to give you your best chance of getting a good result. Well, I think that's the key is it's about choosing people. Now, one of the things I think you do on your podcast, which is you have multiple podcasts, but let's talk first about it.

We'll talk about the Beverly Hills plastic surgery podcast first. I think you out people on there that Photoshopped their before and afters. Is that right? Yeah, okay. I thought you did that. Yeah, I couldn't remember exactly.

No, we are. So the Beverly Hills plastic surgery podcast started in 2019. We're coming up on episode 300. I do it with my associate, Dr. Millicent Ravello. She and I do name names. We call it out. We are not bashful because, you know, for the public, there is no way they could possibly

know. They can't possibly know what's going on, you know, behind the curtain of plastic surgery, especially with the marketing tools available to plastic surgeons now. I mean, I tell stories all the time on there about people that are, you know, not only Photoshopping their before and afters,

which to me is fraud, but they're doing things where they stack the cards in their favor. They show a medical before photo of the patient, you know, the day of surgery with no makeup, a surgical gown, their hairs, whatever, cause they just got up. And then they'll put an after photo, oh, my patient sent in this beautiful after photo

that's filtered, that they're wearing hair and makeup's done. And you're just like, and, and then patients will come into me and be like, his before and afters are spectacular. Those aren't before and afters. Those are marketing photos that you fell for hook line and sinker, which is why you're here for a revision facelift. And that happens over and over again. I think we have a story in common about that sort of thing.

So I don't wanna get into details, but it's like, it's crazy what people do. And I think it's unfair. And so we call it out, not because we're trying to nuke any certain plastic surgeon or wanna be plastic surgeon or pseudo plastic surgeon. We do it so that the public can have some idea about what they're looking at and can understand, you know, even like this Chris

Jenner thing. I don't know if you see Chris Jenner's new facelift. Chris Jenner got a great facelift from a very competent plastic surgeon in New York and she looks great. But the images on the internet are photoshopped people. It's like she does look great. And she's got, and Chris is amazing. She's a great woman. She's a huge advocate for plastic surgery. God bless her for naming her plastic surgeon and saying, this is who did it.

Cause I always make jokes. I wish my patients on the red carpet would be like, and my dress is by Valentino and my shoes are by Jimmy Choo. And then my facelift is by Dr. J. Calvert. That's what I want to hear. I want that day to come. Yeah, please. Because that would count.

Well, I think the stigma around getting stuff done has definitely gone away. I think the Kardashians have really led that charge because good Lord, they don't look anything like they did as children. No, they look great because they go to good people, they're smart, they're good consumers of plastic surgery, but they're also, they take care of themselves

and they spend the money it takes to get good surgery. That is a big stopping point. It's a non-starter for a lot of people and plastic surgery is not cheap. I mean, I think we talked about my costs one time. Like here's, here's just a quick blip of trying to understand what it costs now to deliver plastic surgery. I had a one operating room OR before the pandemic and the supply bill every month for the operating room to run, you know, the entire month would typically be about

$5,000 it's now $37,000 to $45,000 a month for the same exact supplies. Yeah. Now we've also added another operating room so you guys can probably put the math, do the math on how much we're spending on like just lap pads and you know sutures and stuff. It's the cost of astronauts. Why have they gone up so much? Because they can? Because during the pandemic, it was open season on medical bank accounts. Like anybody, you needed stuff, oh, you're gonna have to pay. It's the pandemic, look around, where are you gonna get this stuff?

Oh, you're gonna need it, that's right, you'll need it. And they just jacked the prices through the roof because they could. And you know that I know that you know, yeah, it's not coming down Yeah, oh, yeah, once it goes up. It's not that's it down I will say something shocking did happen in Las Vegas today that I just heard and I hope it starts a trend This is nothing to do with you or plastic surgery, but I want to talk about it because that was awesome Which is resorts world the news the new brass there just announced today that they are rolling in free parking all summer, which vote with your wallet.

People stay at Resorts World. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that is the first time I have ever seen a casino shut down a revenue source just because everybody's furious now with the casinos with just the nickel and dime and everything that happens there at the fees, the fees, the fees, it's crazy. Yeah.

Like how much money do you need to make for your shareholder? It's nuts, right? How much? So, but watch, you're gonna see resorts will blow up because of this and then you're gonna force the hand of MGM, force the hand of Caesar's and then hopefully we'll see more a little bit,

you know, it's never gonna be cheap again. It'll become more affordable. I mean, geez, we went to Dairy Queen last night. Dairy Queen, right? A small blizzard for my son, small, the little one, this much, $7. It's absurd. Dude, I'm thinking to myself, I look at my wife and I go,

like, we're pretty much rich. And I'm like, upset about this. How does somebody with a normal job come and do this? It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy out there. The prices have gone crazy. And so plastic surgery, my cost to deliver this care is like,

you know, and I'm never going to compromise safety or cut corners. So it's going to cost more money and that's it. And my patients get that, they pay the money, they understand what they're getting. The value of what they get is really what they're paying for. And so it is, but it's hard.

It's hard to look somebody in the face and be like, you know, 10 years ago, this operation was $8,000. It's now $45,000. It is. And that's the scale of what's happened. What's happened there. Let's talk about this. When you first decided to open in Beverly Hills,

was this a decision of fish where the fish are? Like, I mean. Pretty much. Yeah. If you're going to go, cause I think, I think every woman in America or men or whoever that wants something done, I think the Beverly Hills is, like I said earlier, like the Yankees, it's the equivalent of the thought process and the marketing of that, of just saying you have an office in Beverly Hills.

It's got to be incredibly powerful. It is. And you can't stay there if you're not good. So there is something to that brand. When I was in residency, there was like a news piece in December one year that, and this was probably in 1999 or 2000. And they were interviewing a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. The interviewer said, why does everybody wanna go to Beverly Hills for plastic surgery? And the doctor was very, you know, the surgeon was very cool. He was very like down to earth. And he

just goes, well, you know, we just, we do so much of this here. Like we're really good at it. And I think people just want to like stack the cards in their favor that they're going to get a great result. So people come here for plastic surgery. And I would echo that sentiment today because I look up and down the blocks of Beverly Hills at who's operating there. These guys are good. Yeah.

You know, you say like, oh, I saw this guy for a consult before I saw you. I was like, oh, he's great. You know, I know their work. They know my work. And it's like, you know, you can find a lot of really good plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills, so you can stack the cards in your favor by, by going there. Is it cheap?

No. Is it expensive? Yes. Are you going to get great care? Chances are you will. And that, that is really the truth. Even, even when I, I'm the president of the Los Angeles Society of Plastic Surgeons and we were having our meeting a few weeks ago and I was looking

around the room and just the the level of intensity of the desire to be better of those surgeons from LA and Beverly Hills and Santa Monica. I mean it's's unmatched. I mean, these guys really wanna, they wanna just be awesome. They wanna be better, always. Is there a level of competition that runs through that room? Kind of, but not really. There's so many patients in LA.

So you said fish where the fish are. There's like 12, 15 million people that feed in the LA basin. Everybody's eating. You can't find a patient you're probably not very good. So those of us who are any good at are busy. I think the thing that makes, like for example, you look at the law profession, right? There's, and this is very evident here in Las Vegas,

for example, without naming names, there is a very large law firm here in Las Vegas that is everywhere as you look around. Everywhere. You drove past five billboards on the way here. Okay? And yet the main person on the board, if you pull their court record,

their wins and losses in court, they've never tried a case. Not one. Not one. They have a lot of great attorneys probably that work for them that handle all of the work, but the main guy or person will just say has never been in a courtroom. And you can't pull that kind of bullshit off with what you

do. No, I mean, what we do is so personal and it's why like, you know, people try to, you know, you try to bring other surgeons into your practice and things like it's impossible because what you do is so personal and branded and and it's so like your techniques are yours and you know people that want their their patients for all of us who are there in Beverly Hills doing what we do and my patient is not necessarily the patient for my colleagues who happen to

be really good plastic surgeons. They just have a different aesthetic, a different approach. So you wind up with the people, the people that wind up in my office to see me are usually the perfect patients. They've looked at the website, they've listened to the podcast, they've seen another one of my patients, they've been referred by a doctor who knows what I do. That's how people get to me.

I don't have a TV show. It would probably help if I. Not yet. I'm gonna be dead soon. You never know, you never know. Who knows? But the reality is that people that get there get there because they belong there. And that's what I've seen.

And that's what I've seen in, one of my buddies makes people look really, really different. He's such a nice guy and he's a really good surgeon. And I'm not gonna say anything bad about him, but his results are not what I would do. And they're just really extreme. He has a line down the block of people that want what he does.

It's just a very different aesthetic. It has nothing to do with whether he's good or bad, he just does it a different way and my patients wouldn't want that. His patients totally want that and wouldn't want what I do. Well, let's talk about that. The ebbs and flows of beauty trends, if you will.

Like as things become in vogue or whatever, I guess, I was trying to think before we jumped on this today, like what's become on vogue in the last several whatever years, I'm thinking like the BBL thing. It's gotta come out of left field like, okay, what is that?

So what are over the course of your career, what are some trends that you've seen? Like for example, I'm not trying to compare what I do to what you do, but in the real estate and development business, you know, you see some things, you know, like this may become trendy within design right now.

And you're like, bro, that avocado fridge is not gonna look good in a couple of years. It's just not gonna, this is not gonna stay at the test of time. What are some things you've seen in your field that people have requested that you're like, this is not gonna age well? Yeah, well, BBL is one thing that you bring up.

And interestingly, we have a little joke in my family because my daughter who's sitting here with us today that you bring up and interestingly, we have a little joke in my family because my daughter who's sitting here with us today would make a joke where I'd say, you know, I think we're talking about hockey tickets. I was like, you know, L, these hockey tickets are so expensive. You guys better go to these games if we're gonna buy them.

And her answer was, Dr. J, don't worry about it. If you think they're expensive, just do more BBLs and you'll be able to buy them and So we always have make fun of BBLs is like it's the financial winner the driver to the hockey Take a deal. That's how we're doing hockey tickets. So with the BBLs, I used to look at those and be like who? Wants this like is I I get it. There's somebody that loves that Obviously, there's a lot of people that love it because they can't These people can't get their butts big enough

Now I do skinny BBLs where I'll do like 200 300 CCs because truth be told the guy that really kind of And this came up today the guy that sort of Showed that you could do this was a guy named Louie Toledo Now practices in Dubai is Brazilian and at some point in pit when I was at Pittsburgh He came through to try to get a job there Toledo now practices in Dubai is Brazilian and at some point in pit when I was at Pittsburgh He came through to try to get a job there. He was feared for his family's life in Brazil said it was terrible he couldn't he's got a gun everywhere he goes and And when he came through he said never put more than three to four hundred ccs of fat into the buttocks

Well that rules out the window because I got guys in my neighborhood that routinely put 1200 CCS in each butt cheek which is I which I mean you know is your boyfriend a horse like why does your butt need to be this big like what is the deal that it has to be so wide like it's wider than a shopping cart yeah and they want it and it's I just I didn't get it I didn't get it. I didn't get into it. I never, never fell for that. And now like they're doing a little more conservative, like I understand fat and I do

fat augmentation of the buttocks. It's great. You can do a lot of things that you can fix things with it. You can, you know, take care of some dimpling and things that people don't like. So there's a lot that's good about it. Not my trend, not my game.

The, the short tiny upturned nose has made a comeback in Turkey. There's this one TikToker surgeon that puts these things up. To me, they look like war crimes that have been done to these people. It is so ugly and so horrible. I can't even believe how bad these noses look, but she doesn't have one or two on there. It's nose after nose after nose after nose. So somebody wants this. I can't imagine how that's gonna age well. Well, that brings up two points what you just said. Number one is the rise of social media

and all of that imaging and all of that stuff. Do you find, I mean, obviously it has, but to what extent do you think that that has led to like body dysmorphia, people being unhappy with where, you know, the rat, how often do you see, you know, maybe people sometimes where you're like, look, you look great.

Like what's like slow down. You don't need to look like the upturned turkey nose person. Does that happen a lot at this point? Yeah. I mean, people are like, there's stuff that people ask for because they're so, you know, TikTok distorted, you know, and it's just, it's awful because they don't understand what they're asking for

and they think because somebody else has been there, they should do that. And it's not true. It's just not the way that this works. I mean, I came up with a term yesterday and I called it the nonfluencers. You know, they're people that think they're influencers but they really have no clout whatsoever.

You know, synonyms would be like loser, a nobody, a legend in their own mind. And so there's a lot of these like nonfluencers. I resonate with a lot of that. Yeah, you know. I resonate with a lot of that. Yeah. I felt like you just described the show, Jay. That's wonderful. That's perfect. Great. The nonfluencer. All right. Well, I'm happy to be on your nose. So we go. Yes. Yeah. For the four people listening to this. Now I'm just kidding. Keep going.

Well, they'll listen. Don't worry. We're going to pump it out. But the, um, but there are so many of these people that try to, you know, they try to build trends. They think that they are the ones that should be the purveyors of what's beautiful and all that. And I just don't, it's really hard to watch. It's hard for me. I've been around a few years now.

I'm no spring chicken and I've seen a lot of stuff come and go. And some of the stuff is just like, no people that that ain't it. Yeah. That's not good for you is not good. And it's not going to work and it's not going to last. And what are you doing? Well, the second part of what you said that, that I want to talk about was you said it was a doctor in Turkey, which is interesting because a lot of people are now starting to take these plastic surgery

Holidays to other parts of the world. It's like every bald dude. I know winds up on a plane to Turkey It's like hair transplant. You know, I got like the center of the universe for that but how dangerous is that? So Garth Fisher and I I guess I mean Garth was on a pod I haven't seen Garth Fisher in forever and he told a story on a podcast yesterday of these three women that all of us know in Beverly Hills because and he told the story on the podcast and so I can now repeat it because I know the people close to these people these gals went for mommy makeovers in Turkey and one of the three of

them came back decent results whatever was 15 grand each or whatever and one of them wasn't feeling so well and he literally told this like I was listening to him I was like I can't believe he told the story and so went to the doctor got like an MRI and said oh that's interesting were you born with one kidney? Shut up! Scan the other two, all three of them, and their kidneys taken during their mommy makeovers and sold. And you know, they, they called the doctor and, and they're, he's like, well, you know, they have a gun in my head. I have to do this. Like I work for the government. Yeah.

Zero chance you're putting me under anesthesia in Turkey after hearing that story. You just don't know who you're going to. By the way, I have friends in Turkey who are amazing surgeons. They're not the ones on Instagram. And I'm going to tell you a little story why that is because they told me. If you see somebody on Instagram who is a Turkish surgeon advertising for you to come and it's going to be $5,000 for the whole package hotel hospital surgery flight on Turkish Airlines

That surgeon works for the Turkish government and they are allowed to advertise because they work for the Turkish government So they might get two hundred dollars for the rhinoplasty or three hundred dollars for the rhinoplasty and the rest of the money goes towards Turkish Turkish Airlines the hospital etc. So and the rest of the money goes towards Turkish airlines, the hospital, et cetera. So my friends who work there do not work with the government. They charge 20,000 euro for a rhinoplasty like anybody else on that side of the ocean. And they're really good,

but they are not allowed to advertise their surgical practices because they are not in bed with the Turkish government. Doesn't benefit them. Yeah, if they want to advertise, they gotta- in bed with the Turkish government. Doesn't benefit them. Yeah. If they want to advertise, they got to pay the big, that's right. So that's the bottom line. And I did not know that, but it explained a lot to me about why people were getting such, you know, and they're also happy because they got their nose job.

But I've really haven't seen one that's come back from one of those $5,000 deals. I've been like, you know, that's actually pretty good. They've all been like, you know, it's a B minus or C or whatever. I mean, average is fine in plastic surgery. You will find this. I've gotten in so much trouble for saying this. I was in a meeting in Italy with all my colleagues from around the world, you know, 800 super geek rhinoplasty surgeons in the room.

And they're talking about this new technique, preservation rhinoplasty, which I don't really have a lot of to say for or against it. It's a technique. But what I notice is all the noses, the way they do it is they basically cut down the middle posts of the house and drop the house down to get rid of a hump. So if you think about the hump here, instead of shaving it off, they're gonna go inside the nose, take off the major post to the septum, and push the the hump into the face. So it's a way to do it where you don't have to disturb the outside of the nose. Great. Afterwards, the noses are a little wide, they still have a little

hump, they can't breathe. Well, they can they usually can breathe okay because you've taken the wide part and pushed it down Okay, so the nose gets wider and the hump is still there So they have a little bit of a residual hump and so I made the comment I go look You know it is a way to do this All of you guys that are doing it have the ability to get better results if you do structural rhinoplasty Which is what I mostly do I go it's it's not that you can't do it this way. It's faster. It's easier You probably aren't gonna have as many complications, but the noses aren't as good which is what I mostly do. I go, it's not that you can't do it this way. It's faster, it's easier. You probably aren't gonna have as many complications,

but the noses aren't as good. I said, maybe in your zip codes, you can do that. I can't do that in my zip code. My patients won't tolerate it. And they flew off the handle. Oh, you think your results are so much better? I was like, yeah, I do. I think these are really average results.

And now we know who the 66% were. Now we know these guys. I was like, I'm sorry. It's like, you know, it's just, you can, I know they can do better with different techniques. They just don't want to take the time. They don't want to, you know, this, this is, this like, is like, it's like a massive group think gas lighting of themselves. want to, you know, this, this is, this like is like, it's like a massive

group think gas lighting of themselves. Yeah. So that they feel good about what they're doing because it's true. They aren't getting as many contour regularities because they're using the contour that's already available. There's, there's nothing wrong with it.

I'm not here to bag the technique. I'm just saying for my patients, they want more. Yeah. I want more and it's not, it's not good or bad. And then they, they want to, you know, so they, you know, then they don't invite me to the reindeer games anymore. You know, I can't like,

we don't want him to come and tell us that we're not any good at this. I can't get in on their Frank footer roasts, like the sneet is on the beaches. You know, I'm, I'm cut out. I'm out. Somebody will be listening and be like, Oh my God, he just quoted Dr. Seuss, the sneetches on the beaches. The Frankfurt- Yeah, that's right.

There you go. So anyway, that's how it goes. What's the craziest thing somebody's ever asked you to do that you're like, I'm not doing that? The craziest thing? I was on the Tyra Banks show one time as an in-audience expert and they brought on this model who wanted toe liposuction. And I think I said something like,

you need to get your head examined. I was like, what? Like, what are you talking about? She's like, my toe has like a contour irregularity to it. I was like, your toe. I was like, no. I go, this doesn't.

Put shoes on. I was like, I was kind of like, did you guys really bring me in here for this? Like, I was like, no, I'm not talking about this. That's not happening. Just wear socks. Well, like, I was like, no, I'm not talking about this. That's not happening. Just wear socks. Well, let me ask you this, because everybody is trying to do the at home beautification,

longevity, all of those things. So if you had to pick the top three most useless things that everybody, trends that are out there now, that people do, what are three that are just stupid and what are three that are actually effective? I don't know the stupid things because I don't let them take up room in my head. I really don't.

I see them and I go, that's moronic. I was like, that is not gonna do anything. Not doing anything. I will tell you the things that work. There are some things you can do at home that are very simple. First of all, high-end medical grade skincare will make a difference for your skin, period, end of story.

There is no doubt that the high end, you could pick, there are so many good companies out there, we have them all in our office, so if you need references, you can kind of look on the website and see, but high end skincare really makes a big difference. It just, the stuff that you buy in the pharmacy is not good.

It's got a lot of crap in it that you'd want on your face. So that helps. I think using any of the mechanical brushes, there's all kinds of scrubbing brushes for your mechanical scrubbing of the keratin off of your face is really important. I think that's great. My wife swears by red light therapy.

Yeah. I can't quite see exactly what it does, but she spends probably 30 minutes a week doing red light therapy, and she wouldn't do it if it didn't help. I know that. She doesn't waste her time. So the fact that she continues to do it,

my dad's got a red light therapy, everyone I know, I don't do it because I don't have any time for it, but I think red light therapy is probably real. Yeah, it's so funny. You look at your daily routine and mine just got so ridiculous. You're like, oh, you gotta be on the grounding mat for 20 minutes and you gotta get on the EWAT trainer

with the oxygen, then you gotta get on the red light. It's like, dude, I gotta go to work at some point. I gotta stack some of these things, but my wife has got the contraption with the grounding mat and then the red light goes over, so she's like, I can stack these two things together and do all that stuff. Are you all like a, when it comes to anti-aging stuff,

are you like a peptide guy, are you big with that? I'm big on medication. So for me, I personally take growth hormone on a little bit of testosterone. I take supplements. I'm always checking my vitamin levels and things like that. So, you know, and I, I, I kind of eat a balanced diet. I, I'm not a, you know, I think veganism is, it's fine,

but you have to, you have to supplement heavily if you're gonna be vegan. I think vegetarians fine I think those those dietary choices are great as long as you understand what they are and I think people like I'll never forget this case at the University of Pittsburgh this patient was vegan since she was like 16 just decided she was never gonna You know nothing with any animal proteins nothing like and she got the rip it is worst breast cancer I've ever seen for a 32 year old and we did her tram flaps where we you know reconstructed her with her abdominal muscles and it fell apart like we never sewed it together she never healed the wounds like she was so like

deficient and then then we worked her up and like she had vitamin, you know, there, there's so many deficiencies that you can't even understand. Probably ones we don't even know about by not eating a balanced diet. And so I think diet wise, you know, like I'm 56 years old. I feel like I'm playing with house money. So I don't like sit there and go like, Oh, what can I do to live long? I've lived longer. I'm I didn't made it past 30 as I thought I would be dead

from rock and roll. And you've given up, Jay, you're on the downward slide. You've given up. You've given up. I'm all in. Like, I, you know, I eat well. Like I'll be like, oh, I should eat some collard greens. I should do this.

And I, and I, and I do kind of mix and match kind of, I don't eat a lot of food like I used to. I take Wigovy cause I'm, you know, staving off diabetes from my family, my rip in family history of diabetes. My mom was on insulin by the time she was 60. And a couple of years ago, my hemoglobin A1C, which is a measure of how sugar coated your blood cells are, uh, popped up to 5.9, you know, just got into the like, Ooh, you're going the wrong direction.

So I took an aggressive approach and got onto a govi. I don't take trisepatide, which is one that causes the monger. It's just sick. It does. And it makes you lose a lot of weight. And I don't need to lose a lot of weight. I'm fine being, you know, like the dead bod works for me. I'm good with it.

And, you know, I go to the gym, I work out. I think those things are all important. Drink a lot of water. The things that you can do to really, I go to the gym, I work out, I think those things are all important, drink a lot of water. The things that you can do to really, really increase your longevity for, alcohol's like one of the things that you can, if you eliminate alcohol, it's a big deal.

I don't eliminate alcohol because I kinda like my beer and stuff like that. All things in moderation. And it's in moderation, so that's fine. But I think those things can make a big difference for you. I think hyperbaric But I think those things can make a big difference for you. I think, you know, hyperbaric oxygen, I think has some, I think that could be an anti-aging thing I'm into. I think that helps a lot.

I use it for my patients a lot. My buddy, Ari Rastegar, who they call him the Oracle of Austin, and GQ did an article on him about biohacking, and I became friends with Ari. Oh, no way. Yeah, a huge guy in Austin Austin in the real estate space. And I became friends and I text him when they asked, all right,

what's all this stuff, right? I get my blood work done. I'm like, you know, peptides, we got all this stuff going. What's the thing? And he just said, the best thing you can do for your health egos do eight, eight, two atmosphere or more two to two atmosphere, more eight sessions, back to back as fast as you can is the best thing you can do for your health I think I think it helps yeah I think the the hyperbaric oxygen is great so all those things yes do them but you know you have to also like live your life and yeah you

know I see people sometimes chasing stuff that kind of makes them sick you know I think you can do too much so I think think if you're, if you're doing well, like stick with it because, uh, you know, the, what you're doing is going to, going to help you in the long run. Um, but don't, don't push it. I think when you push things and you go to extreme, then, then you can make big problems. The reason I'm laughing is cause you know, like on Facebook or whatever, like a memory will pop up from like six years ago, something you did. Of course, dude, I watched this, um, documentary on Netflix called nearly fat and dead or whatever, like a memory will pop up from like six years ago, something you did. Of course. Dude, I watched this documentary on Netflix called Nearly Fat and Dead or whatever it was. And it was a dude that was like all totally out of shape and just miserable. And

he did a juice cleanse. Like he just went on all straight juice. So I'm like, I'm going to try the juice cleanse. Right? Oh yeah. So I did like a straight, like 10 day juice cleanse. And dude, I was making this video from six years ago talking about how great I felt and the advantages from the juice cleanse. I look like I was in the oncology ward. I just, I look so terrible in this video. I'm like, oh my God, I'm talking about the benefit,

the health benefits from this thing. I did like- And you look like you need to check into the hospital. Oh God, I did. I showed my, I showed Gidget. I was just laughing so hard. I'm like, I'm never going to talk about yeah. You just never in the moment,

it seems like a good idea, but it just isn't. Yeah. I mean those juice cleanse is rough too. And they, they, you know, I don't know that they're good for you. I'm not sure about that, but I do. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's like when you become, you know, when you get that thin and that, that's sort of, that's not a good thing. But there's also, we know that there, there are no fat old people, you know,

when you're really heavy, you don't live that long. That's a big problem. So I think if you can keep your, your weight in, in a reasonable kind of realm and, you know, and your cholesterol can be 200 or 210. It doesn't have to be 176. I mean, there's, like, I don't know that everybody needs to be on a statin.

This is the other thing, too. You know, there's a- They're terrible for you. They're horrible for you. And there are people that argue the other side of it, though, I will tell you. You know, my, one of my fellows is like uncle who died from cardiac disease, father with cardiac disease, brother with cardiac disease, and he's like, uncle who died from cardiac disease,

father with cardiac disease, brother with cardiac disease. And he's like, I'm going to get cardiac disease. It's in my family history. He believes that everyone should be on a statin. And I just, I've never been on a statin. My cholesterol is, you know, 201. My HDLs are like 75 or something crazy high, which is cardio protective.

There's no history of cardiac disease in my family whatsoever, even with the diabetes. So it's like, do I need to be on a statin? I don't think so. So that's where evaluation of all these techniques and thoughts and medicines, and really putting it into perspective for yourself, getting a doctor that you can kind of talk about it with

is really key. Yeah, I think now you're starting to see it. I think, uh, Gary Brekow at 10X health really made getting genome tests to look at your genome factors and trying to adjust vitamin deficiencies to that, to what you really needed at your gene level, I think has really become in vogue. I mean, I think that's if you have means, like if you can do it and afford it And I know it's not I know it's not cheap

But I think the best thing you can do or the best thing I started doing was getting that blood work done every three Months, you know, I used to do it every six months Maybe every ten months now literally ever every three months looking for deficiencies. Yeah and where I am I think has been I change my supplements every three months Yeah, you can custom tailor it, and you should. And that's because setting things, you know, like remember the Ronco guy, set it and forget it?

Yeah. That doesn't work. That doesn't work in medicine, because things change. It's a dynamic system. And you have to be paying attention to those changes. How do you think, switching gears a little bit, obviously everything now is AI, right?

Everything is AI, AI? Everything is AI AI. How do you think AI is going to affect your business? Already has. It's great. Okay. I'm all in. I'm Mr. I love tech.

So like you, you can't keep me away from technology. And I was like checking out this AI stuff and where I was going to use it. I mean, first of all, now when a patient calls for a consultation, they've already had a full conversation with an AI chatbot. That's basically my words of what the answers are. And they're convinced that they're in the right place, but I didn't have to do it. And so the intake into my practice now has been incredible.

I do a ton of facelifts, a ton of rhinoplasty and a ton ton of very difficult breast surgery. Those are my three core areas that I operate on. I do lots of different operations in all of those. But the reality is, is that finding qualified patients for my practice, my prices are crazy high. You know, if you're in Toledo, Ohio, and you're thinking about a facelift, and you call the offices of Dr. Jane Calvert and you just saw your local guys.

You better be sitting down. Yeah. It's it's like, the difference is a six figure difference. Yeah, it is. It's like the, the facelift in Toledo might be $15,000 and it's $125,000, $145,000 to do it with me. And that's, you know $145,000 to do it with me. And that's today in 2025. I say that because if somebody's listening in 2028,

it's gonna be triple. You said it was only this. I have that. I have people that said like, oh, you said, I saw a YouTube video that you said that your rhinoplasty is $8,500. I was like, that's from 2008. I had no gray hair. I had no gray hair. I looked like, yeah, I also didn't have gray hair then. That's from 2008. I had no gray hair.

I had no gray hair, I looked like a kid. And like, it should be 8,500 bucks if I'm doing that. Yeah, I was doing it out of the back of a van at that point. Well, I've actually never done that, but so far so good. But you never know, there's still time. But I think that's the thing is that, you know, you have to kind of, you gotta look at it from all different perspectives.

Yeah, well, let's shift gears hard now. Let's go hard because you told me this story off the air and I wanted to share it, which I thought was great. If you live in Las Vegas, like so many of us do, if you live anywhere else in the country, you probably hate them, but, or in Canada, you definitely hate them. But our golden nights here are,

like if you live in Vegas, you gotta understand, this is our team. Like, yes, we have the Raiders here, but they're Oakland's team. We're getting the A's. They're Oakland's team. The Knights are our team, right? Born and developed here in Vegas.

And you, my friend, were actually instrumental in making that happen. So can we talk about that? Yeah, I mean, for sure. I mean, so in addition to the Beverly Hills Plastic Surgery podcast, the way I got into podcasting was the Dr. Hockey podcast. And that happened after I helped the Maloof brothers

write the pitch for the Vegas Golden Knights. And it was a very interesting story. I sat there with Joe at lunch one time. We were at the Four Seasons. It was when I was out for this meeting and we were having lunch at at the Four Seasons and I said, you know, you guys got rid of the the Sacramento Kings. Like the Maloo family doesn't have a professional sports team. What are you guys gonna do? You know, and Joe looked at me and goes, well, Doc, you know, we're thinking about getting into hockey. I was like, hockey? Like, I'm your guy. Like, this

is my, this is my core competency other than plastic surgery. Like what do you, what do you, what are you guys gonna do though? Like well we're pitching Betman, you know, the commissioner and you know we're going up against some other big cities that want teams. I think Seattle was gonna be there, etc. I said well give me your pitch and so he tells me the pitch and and it just falls flat with me. It's like about like, we're building a stadium and we're going to make jobs. It was about impact on the city. Yeah. Like financial impact of the city. Yeah. I was like, Hey Joe, not for nothing. Like if you give that pitch,

you're not getting the team. He's like, Oh, we're not getting the team. I go, you're not getting the team with that pitch. He goes, Oh, well what would you do? I said, well I'd walk in there. It's a very simple pitch. I just, Oh, well, what would you do? I said, well, I'd walk in there. It's a very simple pitch. I would just walk in and say, Mr. Bettman, we would like have a team in Las Vegas. Cause we want to win the Stanley cup and bring it to Las Vegas. That's it.

He goes, that's it. I go, that's your pitch. That's all you have to say. And then I said, I'll tell you the other things you need to do. You have to honor the community approach. Like I went through all the things that he had no idea about how hockey worked. It's a community sport.

You have to cultivate it from- Develop the youth leagues. You have to develop. I said, you already have a fan base here. He didn't even realize that the Runnin' Rebels had a bitchin' hockey team. Yeah. Which they did.

They do. They do and they did then and they had a fan base already. And so I walked through all that. I said, you're going to put practice rings open to the public. Da da da da da. I went through the whole deal and he's like, well, write it up and send it to me. And I'll show it to Foley, who was the, the money man behind, you know, the, the whole thing and not the blue, the moves or not, but he was the majority,

uh, shareholder for this pitching crew. And they went and they pitched it and Joe called me from the room. He said, we got the team. He goes, you were totally right. He said, he told me that when they said, Mr. Bevin, we wanna have a team in Las Vegas because we wanna win the Stanley Cup and bring it to Las Vegas.

He said his face lit up. He goes, tell me more. He's, they knew they were in. He was like, Jay, he's like, you were totally right. And it was really cool. Cause then Joe invited me to the first game, which was by the way, like it was right after what happened, you know, outside the shooting, you know, all the shootings and it was, and they handled it so well, like whoever did that first game night nailed it.

They just, they just, it was like, you know, people's tears were streaming down everybody's face. They were just feeling the effects of what happened in Las Vegas and, and it wasn't their first game as a team. They had played their first game in Dallas, I think, or a couple of games before. This was the first home game. And it's just been such a pleasure to watch that team and, and they've done great.

It's awesome. And the, and you know, and the big thing that I told them about their pitch is I said, and I don't know if you can curse in here, but I said, first of all, this is a small market team. This is for the 1.4 million people that live, work, breathe in Las Vegas. I go, all those tourists that come through, eff them.

They are not part of this. Do not make that, not the tourists are coming through, they're gonna go, all those tourists that come through, F them, they are not part of this. Do not make that, not the tourists are coming through, they're gonna go, they're not, they are not part of this team. They are not to be mentioned in your pitch. I said, this is not about the tourists. I know there are 40 million people through here every year, whatever it is.

This is for the 1.4 million, this is a small market team, just like Pittsburgh. This is, it's smaller than Dallas. It's smaller, you know, even like, it's sort of the Columbus Blue Jackets, which is a small market team. Like you have to look at it that way. And that has made the difference because this,

everyone that I talked to in this town who lives here feels like they are the number one fan of the Golden. Everyone feels that way. That's our team, yeah, that's our team. And they are, number one fan of the Golden. Everyone feels that way. That's our team, yeah, that's our team. And they are, and it's the best. And I just, I think it's so great. And they won the cup and they made it to the cup the first year, it was amazing.

I know, amazing. Yeah, I think that, you know, that first puck drop at that first game, because of what the team did in between the shooting and that game, like there were people in the stand that had no idea what hockey was, that were fans because of how they reacted

to that situation. It was incredible. It was so well done. And I just, I commended everybody. It was like unbelievable how I said, you guys nailed this. It was so classy and it honored the victims and honored the first responders. And it was nuts. It was so good and it honored the victims and honored the first responders. And you know, it was, it was nuts.

It was so good and so, so well done. And just, it just showed such class. I'll say, I'll say this as a season ticket holder, and I feel like there's a mistake that they're doing at the games right now. I know that that first season they went out and hired the production people from WWE cause they had no clue what product was going to be on the ice. They said, we got to have a show here. Right. This is going to be an event to come to a game here. And dude, it was,

it was like, it was celebrity after celebrity across the, across the jumbotron. It was just, it was an event to go to this. It was awesome. And I think after the cup win, I think Foley has kind of said, I want the product to just be the ice. Right. And really dialed back all want the product to just be the ice, right? And really dialed back all of the arena stuff. But to me, that's what makes that the best home ice event in the game.

And I think they got to get back to some of the, this is Vegas, razzle dazzle. I'll never forget that first year of the cup run, right? Like- It's crazy. Like they would go to, when we go to Washington, they'd go there and they'd be like, okay The national anthem will be sung by

Sergeant Major so-and-so and like our Pat Sajak is gonna come out and you come here and like little John's repelling So it's like it was showtime here. It was great and they should get back to that because that's what makes it Vegas And and I thought it was awesome. Yeah, they had like Carrot Top doing the like, the etiquette video of how to watch a hockey game. It was great. It was great. It was magic. Speaking of hockey, something happened last night

and I just want to know what your feelings are on it. Jesus touched a trophy last night. Yeah. What are your thoughts on that? I think he's going to lose. Me too and I can't wait for him to lose. I think, well, nevermind that. I think they're, I'm sorry, the Florida Panthers

are so deep. So good. They're so good, and I never wanna play hockey against Sam Bennett. The guy's just scary to me. But the reality is that the Oilers lost Zach Hyman to a wrist injury, and I think it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna show up in the in the in the cup I mean McDavid

and and and dry Cytl and Evander Kane I mean look at Corey Perry's 40 years old he's playing on the first line with dry Cytl and McDavid and contributing like he's like he's a 20 year old goal scorer. He's just gotta lay a stick in front of the ice and McDavid will hit it from 70 feet. And Perry's big. He's six foot four and he can plant right in front of the goal tenor, he's got it.

I am looking forward to watching Marcian torture Vander Cane in the finals. He will, he will do that. Because he's just, I read the best quote about him. But I've never been a big Marcian fan, but I hope you saw the story I read the best quote about him, but like I've never been a big Marchand fan But now if you saw the story I read the other day talking about when I was in youth hockey we were sitting there and the coach of our team and like like

14 year old hockey he says the coach of our team says there is a there's kids like you everywhere There's thousands of you everywhere and there is a point a 1% chance. You're gonna make it to the NHL and he says dude I wasn't the best person on my team. I'm thinking if I'm not the best person on this team, like I got no shot. It says they had a game against this kid and this kid was like a bigger Ford and he went at his brother and like smashed his brother. And he's like, you know, it's my brother. You come in and become me.

So it was, I went out and I just started terrorizing this guy. Every time he touched the buck, I was just, I was relentless. Like as soon as the rest would kind of like the other way, I'm chopping at him. And eventually he got so mad, he took a, he took a swat at me and the ref saw it. He goes in the box, we score a goal and win the game. And he was like, I just found my way.

He's like, you can love me or hate me, but just understand something. I will do whatever it takes to win. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. That's my game. I would have never made it here if I didn't think like that.

And I was like, you know what? You gotta kind of respect that a little bit. Everybody's got a role to play. You know, there are certain players that have the touch and have the gift of goal scoring and can see the net and find it. And you've got others who play different roles, which are, I need to take this guy off the ice with me I need to I need to be in this guy's way I mean

I I always talk about Anjay Kopitar is one of my favorite players in the NHL and probably one of the most like not talked about guys just because the the West Coasters don't get the the airtime that the East Coast they're on late they're on late so people don't see him but Kopitar is a guy that can, he morphs his game to whatever the game needs that day. He's beyond talented, but beyond, but oh, that the, so much more than that, he's able to read the room, like his hockey IQ off the charts, but he's able to know today I need to be a goal scorer today.

I need to be a distributor today. I need to block up the middle and stop these guys from coming in our zone. And he changes his game in a way that just, he makes it, that's the guy you want on your team and I want Sam Bennett on my team, that's for sure. Cause I don't want to play against him. But you know, like I think Kopitar and Barkov like Barkov is so good. The guy is just, you know, everybody talks about how underrated he is. There's not a guy in the NHL that thinks

Barkov's underrated. I could take that guy. They're terrified of playing against Barkov because of how good he is. He's amazing. And that's where I think, you know, hockey is, the more you watch it, the more you know about it,

the more interesting it is to kind of get into the guts of it. And I've been very fortunate because of my other podcast, my hobby podcast. Beverly Hills Plastic Surgery gets me patients, gets information out there. The hockey podcast is just plain old fun and it's a blast. I love that.

Are your tickets for Anaheim or for LA? Anaheim. You have Anaheim. Dude, I gotta tell you something. You mentioned something earlier. You were talking about, don't mention the opposing fans coming to Vegas, right? I saw something Monday night

I've never seen in my entire life. It was shocking to me and I'll tell you what it was. So in Vegas, in hockey, like, yeah, sometimes you'll get a gaggle of opposing fans and you'll start to hear the, let's go Oilers. And that gets booed down and eliminated in like two seconds. It doesn't, it's done. I went to the angels game Monday night against the Yankees.

You would have thought. You're in New York. You're in New York. I've never seen anything like, it was the yet, let's go Yankees echoing through the entire stadium. It was, I almost felt bad for the angels. I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm booing, I'll boo Judge when he goes up,

just to try to like something here. Just try to help. Yeah, I'm just trying to help. I'm like, where are you people? I've never seen you like that. Yeah, the Yankee fans are rabid fans. Wild. They are really, they're very into it.

And there's a lot of New Yorkers that live in California that were there. I mean, here's an East Coast guy. I used to go to all the Yankee games. My dad had season tickets and used to sit on the third base line and watch, you know, the, the legends of the game now, you know, like, I mean, it goes back to a key and peel joke where he says, yeah,

you're so old that in your history class, you just wrote down what you was doing. So that was me. Like I watched Mickey rivers and Reggie Jackson and all these people that people now talk about as like legends of the game. I was like, Oh, I watched them when they were playing. So I'm really old play, but the Yankees, forget it. They're, they have a fan base. That is just, it is, it's extraordinarily huge. And they are rabid fans. They want our team to win.

I could say the same thing about you, my friend. And if anybody wants to find you, where do they find you? Jack, the website or Instagram, drcalvert.com, drjcalvert on Instagram. I've got a tick tock that I'm working on, which is dr.jcalvert because somebody already pilfered my name somewhere along the way. I took it. And it's just sitting there doing nothing, but those. But those are the easy places to find me. I'm all over the place.

YouTube channel, Dr. Calvert TV. Yeah, all of our podcasts go on Beverly Hills Plastic Surgery Podcast, Dr. Calvert TV. So all that stuff is really easily easy to find. I love that. We're always welcome back here. Next time you come back, we gotta work on that 66% that voted against you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we gotta do that. That's a good idea. You can do that. All right, welcome back here. Next time you come back, we gotta work on that 66% that voted against you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta do that. That's a good idea. You can do that. All right, well guys, if you picked up anything from today, like I think the number one thing is this, find something you love and go all in on it.

And if you go all in on it with everything you got, maybe one day you can be a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. See you next time. What's up everybody. Thanks for joining us for another episode of escaping the drift. Hope you got a bunch out of it or at least as much as I did out of it. Anyway, if you want to learn more about the show, you can always go over to escaping the drift.com.

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