Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - Creating Atomic Habits Ep 37

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

The Power Move Episode 37Learn and burn Entrepreneurship from serial entrepreneur John Gafford and his band of mayhem makers. From stripper poles to the oval office, business lessons are everywhere. T...his Week:The Joe Rogan ControversyAdvice for pro athletesHow to Create Atomic Habits.With Chris Connell and Colt Amidan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 from the art of the deal to keeping it real live from the simply vegas studios it's the power move with john gafford back again back again back again for another fun-filled episode of the power move my name is john gafford i am your host i am joined this week always as always by colt lightning boy amadan i can just like the android yeah oh god lightning fast lightning fast to get you get a kick out of text groups lightning what you can't charge your phone and of course chris connell esquire how are you counselor how are y'all are you so so today man what i want to talk about is last week we talked about, when we were going over the book and stuff on stoicism, we talked about creating better habits.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And one of the things that I did mention on that podcast was the book Atomic Habits by James Clear. And a lot of people hit me up in the DMs or hit me up talking about messages saying, yeah, I love that book. You should talk about that book. So have either one of you guys read this book? Have you no you haven't atomic no no it's not a coloring book cold well then you lost me yeah i lost you there's no color you know they have adult coloring books now just found that out that's freaking amazing well is it an adult coloring books or adult
Starting point is 00:01:19 coloring books if you don't know how to color i Never thought of that. That's a solid point. Good, solid point by the counselor. Any coloring book is a book. I feel like now I'm getting ripped off. Charge double. But before we get into that, Atomic Habits, we'll kind of tell you, hopefully the reason you should want to know about this if you haven't read the book is we're going to give you some tips, tricks, advice on how to build better habits in your life that'll help you. Because really your habits, somebody says, show me your habits and I'll show you. Because really your habits, you know, somebody says,
Starting point is 00:01:45 show me your habits and I'll show you your future. And yeah, anything we can do to kind of help you improve that, we want to. So we're going to do that. But there's, hey man, lots of stuff going on. Lots. The one you talk about. So let's dive, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Atomic habits. Well, you know, let's dive right in. The first thing I saw, I mean, let's talk about the big story that's going on right now. The big one, which is Rogan. I think being in the podcast space, I feel like we owe it to ourselves to at least discuss this a little bit. And I really thought about what I was going to say about this a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And I really did. And here's what I'm going to say about it, which is this. When it comes to Joe Rogan, number one, I don't care if I agree with what he said or not agree with what he said. I don't care if you agree with what he said or not agree with what he said. I don't care if you agree with what he said or didn't agree with what he said. I 100% support his ability to say it. He has, this is the United States of America. He has the right to say what he's going to say and interview who he's going to interview and talk about who he's going to interview.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And let's be very clear. I don't think this is about, I don't think it was about COVID covid i don't think it's about race i think it's about power and i think dave portnoy hit it right on the head when he said you know this is what it's about the guy has too much power and people don't like it and they want to tear him down it's too close to the sun too close to the sun and i you know and i saw today where somebody wrote not something i thought was great it's like it's funny how, what's his name? R. Kelly. R. Kelly, who was in jail for what?
Starting point is 00:03:09 Peeing on children. Peeing on children and all his music is still on Spotify. Nobody has an issue with that. Michael Jackson. Yeah, exactly. How quickly we forget those sorts of things. And the fact that he's still getting attacked like this. Now, number one, I think Spotify kind of did the right thing by saying,
Starting point is 00:03:23 look, we have our code of conduct. We have our things, we have our, we have our stuff, but we've pulled the episodes of contention, but I want to say something else. And I think this is, this has gotten real, real quick. And here's the deal. If you are someone that has said, we should cancel this person because we, we should, they should kick them off and ruin their job because I don't like the way they think or the way they say. Fuck you. If you are somebody that has said, we should boycott this place because they wanted me to wear a mask, fuck you. People have a right to run their business.
Starting point is 00:03:58 People have a right to think the way they want to do on both sides of the aisle. There are just as many people on the right that want to cancel people as there are on the left. This is not a right or left problem. This is a desperate for people to agree with my opinion problem. So if I say, oh, we should all not go here. We should all not do this. This person should get fired. We should all do this. And it validates you somehow as a human being for tearing down somebody else. And you know what? From the bottom of my heart, fuck you. It's a low frequency of my heart fuck you it's a low frequency behavior it is it's a low frequency way to understand things but i understand why people do that right i don't understand why people go hey this is bad therefore we should all bandy about and make it go
Starting point is 00:04:36 away right because i don't really want to think about it i don't i don't want to have my you know the two seconds of a snippet i heard one time challenged in my brain i made up my mind already that's how we vote in this country that's how we operate i understand why people do it but it's low frequency very low it's very low frequency it takes it takes a moment of time to go back and hear things in context now i will go on the record very clearly the n-word and its progeny and see i don't want to talk about that because i don't think yes it's it's not something right that i take lightly or that that i have an opinion on in terms of well how come this guy gets to say it's not about that it's but here's what happened
Starting point is 00:05:17 a lot of that stuff is specifically taken out of context now i would never choose to do it but in an academic sense one of the books we were talking about the other day had it in there in context. It was a quote from a powerful black leader, right? So in context, he was reading it. So would you rather people avoided things? What happened in 1984? What was the big thing? You control language, you control thought. The minute you start doing that, I understand that it's now become a mental game of chess where, oh, that's a word. It's made up of syllables. Those ones are off limits, right?
Starting point is 00:05:49 No matter what context, regardless of context, right? And you go, wait a minute. Context has to matter. Yeah. Well, I just think that if you saw, and I love, Dave Portnoy last night, you probably didn't see this, but he actually got the three dudes. There's three dudes that run some kind of a left-leaning super pack or whatever it is, or pack. And they've kind of done these little hits. And they were some of the guys that sort of retweeted some of the stuff about Portnoy. And he kind of put some pieces together like, wait a second, these are the same guys that are now kind of pushing this out front against
Starting point is 00:06:25 Rogan. Right. You know what I mean? So he actually got them on a live YouTube chat, which I thought was interesting. Really? They go with Portnoy, which I mean, look, love Portnoy, hate Portnoy, whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:34 You gotta have some balls to get on with that dude. Cause he's, he's pretty quick on his feet and he's a, he's a blazer. And, and yeah. And it was like, and he's like, look, here's the deal. I don't care that you're, you're calling attention to these things. You're trying to put them to the forefront. None of that matters to me. What matters to me is you only do it to people who have opposing views to you.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Like you don't do this with impunity. And selectively. Yeah, don't paint yourself as a justice warrior, as a freedom warrior, because you selectively target who you attack that's right and i thought that was that again is the problem because it's like anybody that doesn't agree with what i say you're all wrong and i'm going to do anything i can to do that and and and if you want to watch us we talked about this before the show that's how i got down down the rabbit hole right of of good public you know discourse that's how we got to it rabbit hole of good public discourse.
Starting point is 00:07:25 That's how I got to it. And if you want to watch two people that think polar opposite, there's a YouTube clip out there of Russell Brand and Ben Shapiro debating some things. And watching those guys talk. Now, granted, you think it's mental gymnastics with this guy linguistically, but holy crap. Yeah, that guy is – Yeah, you better get a dictionary if you're going to watch that. But watching those guys have a conversation from total polar opposizing views is how it should be.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And nobody said Russell Brand should lose his podcast. Ben Shapiro didn't say – he didn't say – nobody said that. Nobody's trying to cancel anybody. It's like, okay, I respect the way that you think, and we just think differently and we'll move along. Let me ask you a question. Who do you hear saying the concept hey respect the office whoever's president is in power right yeah the minute that switch oh yeah the minute that switch is from one part of the next it's fuck that guy yeah hypocrisy
Starting point is 00:08:17 shit i hate him dance on his grave yeah oh no no no you guys you got to respect the office no it makes it just we got it i hate that like i mean i know me and john have had this talk like we Oh, no, no, no, no. You guys, you've got to respect the office. No, it makes sense. We've got to have short-term memories. I hate that. I mean, I know me and John have had this talk. Like, we respect the office. It doesn't matter who's in there. We respect it. We don't agree with it all the time, but we respect it.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But, you know, the whole cancel culture, they're not even coming after him for the N-word. That's honestly 90% of them are coming after him because he's got the views of the covid and because he is getting what a hundred million people listening to him when yeah the next the top cnn person's getting a million for two hours when you have 1800 podcasts that are three four hours long dude you're bound to say stuff that if you agreed with everything he said you are also part of the project yeah you're blinding whatever i agree so the guy puts out a ton of content right take it or leave it and he's come back and said hey i've i haven't done a great job balancing this i want to take
Starting point is 00:09:13 a look at that and do better at it yeah that should be the end of the conversation that's it that's it well again again i don't i don't care what he says that's what i'm saying but i just i care that he has a right to say he came out publicly i could care less he says hey that is a valid criticism that is fierce ownership do you know how many people say things say things in public i mean dude look at the alex jones guy right how many blatantly offensive things does that guy say i mean they're just once every time yeah so bad john that he's been found guilty in the court of law. Yeah, I know. For saying absolutely offensive things. But unfortunately, in this country, he has a right to say whatever he
Starting point is 00:09:50 wants. Sure. As long as you realize I have the right not to listen to you. Not a slant. But I have the right not to listen. I don't listen to him either. I don't have any interest in listening to him. But you also got to realize that when you're at work, you have the right to say whatever you want, but there is repercussions off of what you say right and there is but i don't think
Starting point is 00:10:09 joe rogan has come at he's apologized everybody that truly knows him like people have known this guy for 30 years right he's been a comedian for how long 20 of them oh my god he's been comedic these guys are together people don't realize that. The comedian crowds, they travel together. They do stuff. They know it. And everybody has his back. It's like, you know, he made a mistake. None of us condone what he said, but we all condone he has a right to say stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Well, I think the biggest problem for me is it's the cancel culture. I mean, look, if you've never – everybody in this room is a business owner. We all own our own businesses, right? We've had the sleepless nights. We've had the balls out there. We've had the slinging it out there to understand what it takes to get to own your own business. And then here's some person that's working at some store, getting a paycheck every week, that jumps on their social media like, don't ever go to this place again because of X,
Starting point is 00:11:06 you know, dude, how dare you try to tear somebody down because, and you've never had the balls to do anything yourself. I mean, and God help you if somebody did it to your boss and you lost your job because of it. Like it just,
Starting point is 00:11:18 they never think about that. I just, I'm so over like in the other day, it said like you can go to McDonald's a thousand times. They screw up every time. You still go back through. But God help the small business owner that forgets to bring your salad, you know, with the little restaurant. You go on Yelp and feel the need to expound your negative experience.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It's like, dude, it's just. How much of this do you think is about power imbalance or is it just a total lack of empathy? It's insecurity. No, it's not empathy. It's not empathy. It's a lack of empathy. It is an absolute, it's attention seeking and self-validation. It's I am so small on this planet.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I am such a small speck of dust on this great cosmic whirlwind, Ron, that I've got to try to stick my chest out to do this. And let's face it, you look at the news cycles back from the beginning of news. If it bleeds, it leads. Bad news clicks. How many times do people say, I had a great experience at this place? Do you really click and read that?
Starting point is 00:12:12 People are like, listen, look at, dude, you want to see what I'm talking about? You know what the epicenter of this? No, not Yelp. Worse. Next door. That is the epicenter of this.
Starting point is 00:12:23 To the asshole that walks his dog on Thursdays at 9 a.m. Dude, it's just a relentless spewing of people that have no validation in their life other than to tear others down. So you can take that on one hand as it's people, men living lives of quiet desperation, men and women, living the lives of quiet desperation, right? Yeah. But in that is embedded in all themes a lack of empathy right is that a throw did you just quote throw right there i did okay nice okay so you call i'm i'm leaving you and catching up with so at the end of the day if people had empathy they'd go look what did he mean hey look where did this person come from and when you look at somebody and you say that is an ignorant person yeah you can go a long way in this world if
Starting point is 00:13:09 you extend a bit of that olive branch of empathy and go i don't agree with the way you do things i don't agree with what you said but why did you say it how do we get you to a place where you learn from it yeah if you empathize with other human being in a filios philosophical sense the way of love, at the end of the day, those things stop becoming so problematic, right? And when you exhibit empathy and love with others, you'll find that you won't walk around with this life of quiet desperation as often. I think for me, just the fact that we own so many businesses, it's like, dude, you're
Starting point is 00:13:39 just, you know, you're just... Everybody makes a mistake. Yeah. It's like, bro, you bro, you're worried that like, ah, don't cancel this guy, and oh, cancel that business, and oh, this is just crazy. How much of that do you actually think does its job? Oh, I think Spotify didn't cancel Rogan. Yeah, but that's because he's so big.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Because if he was average, he would be right. How many small businesses go? How many small businesses go? I mean, you saw that two or three years ago, the NFL guy that owned like a contractor business, the referee that screwed up, they freaking killed his business because he screwed up a call, right? I still think these people are louder than they're impactful.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I think you'd be surprised at that. Well, let's move on from Rogan. Let's talk about something else I thought. I'm thinking of absolutely batshit crazy. I can't wait for this. Okay, first of all, which brings me to this. Number one, let's move into the world of NFL players, which is going to be a nice segue to the next thing.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Dude. Al Kamara? Kamara, man. Dude. Okay, let me ask you a question. Here's a question, and I'm going to ask you, Colt. How many times have you been out in Las Vegasgas too many how many if you had to put a number on you just put a number on it at least 200 no no that thousands thousands right thousands
Starting point is 00:14:52 i was out three four nights a week for a decade yeah so we'll go we'll go thousands there right how many times did you beat someone senseless in front of a nightclub? I'm the wrong person to ask. Jesus Christ. Okay. Less than five. Let's ask him. No, one time. How many times did you get arrested, Colt?
Starting point is 00:15:12 I didn't get arrested because the cops saw me. You're ruining my thing. How many times have you been arrested, counselor? I've never been arrested, but about eight years ago, I did leave a guy outside of a sub-disc. Okay. They didn't find us, though. Regardless of what I'm saying, I don't care guy outside of a sub-desk. Okay. They didn't find it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Regardless of what I'm saying, I don't care if they found the body or not. The point is, it's just not that hard to come to Vegas, go out, have a good time, and not get arrested. I do it literally all the time. The one time I did get in a fight was because somebody spit on girls, and then they attacked me. It was 100% self-defense. But that's because you're Batman, though. I tackled a guy in a Griffin one time. That's because he's Batman.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Did you? You know that whole thing where guys always say, if I saw a guy hit a woman, I would kick the shit out of him. We were in the Griffin one night. And it happened? And a guy smacked his girlfriend. And I was on the other end of the bar. Not that that's funny. I'm laughing at you.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I'm laughing at that situation. I'm laughing at the look on your face. I was doing nothing. They don't know anything. Before I get canceled. I did nothing. And I tackled the other end of the bar. Not that that's funny. I'm laughing at you at that situation. I'm laughing at the look on your face. I was doing nothing. They don't know anything. Before I get canceled. I did nothing, and I tackled the guy into the booth, but I was on the other end of the bar. And everybody was just watching.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And everyone was just standing there. But no, you can get out of trouble, right? Like that's the same situation. Somebody spit on a girl, and then the guy came to attack me. It's not hard. It's not hard. The thing people have to realize, this goes back to, we talked about this in previous episodes, right?
Starting point is 00:16:29 Your friends do not need to keep being your friends. If that's, if that's, if they're going to not change with you, you know, like you can not, you got to leave them behind. You got to leave them behind sometimes. And that's not a bad thing, but you're going to get this guy to lose millions in a settlement if he's lucky and hope that he doesn't get it. I don't watch.
Starting point is 00:16:50 How much of this comes down to the reckless nature of who we're talking about? You're talking about super athletes that go out on the gridiron. But at what point are you like, okay, this is like. I think what makes you a psychopath on the field, Alvin Kamara is one of the absolute hands-down greatest football players I've ever seen. And he's a super nice dude. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Everybody I know in New Orleans that knows him says he's a great dude. But it's in your genes. I think fighting's in your genes. Like, I grew up with families that they just loved to fight, and you will never get that out of it. I think you might just bring that out of people called. Oh, maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Every time I walked up and drew a shirt. You've got to be a certain level of tough to be an NFL superstar. Yeah, and you've got ego. And your ego needs to be through the roof. Now, you may be nice at football signing day, but in there is a seething cauldron of just rage. You've got to look at, hey, my money. Get a handler. That's what I'm saying. You've got to look at my money. Get a handler.
Starting point is 00:17:47 You got to have friends. Here's the best part too. Talk about not taking the Pro Bowl seriously. That happened at 6.30 in the morning the day of the Pro Bowl. He got in a fight that morning went and played in the Pro Bowl
Starting point is 00:18:01 and got arrested at the stadium. Caesars? Cromwell. Cromwell coming out of Dre's. Cromwell coming out of Dre's. Coming out of Dre's. Don't go. Nothing good comes out of five-a-year. Let's talk about other things NFL players should not do.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Drive, drive. Can we agree at this point? There is a sample large enough that if you are an NFL athlete or an NBA athlete, stay the hell away from the Kardashians. It's not going to end well. Number one. Look, Kanye has officially lost his mind if you haven't seen his. Well, he was on the brink
Starting point is 00:18:35 anyway. I know, he was on the brink, but it's like a succubus of talent and fame, and they just suck it out of you. Humphries. Look, Pete Davidson's going to last two seconds, because honestly, at this point, that dude's more Kardashian than the Kardashians. I celebrate him. He is just knocking through everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Water fights its level. He is. He is. But yeah, I mean, dude, just- Don't have a gun when you travel. I feel like this should be part of the NFL pro players. When they bring the new rookies in, they should be like, look, guys, here's the deal. You need to get a money manager.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You need to invest your money. Don't date a Kardashian. This is just what they should do. This is just going to end poorly for you across the board. It just keeps ending poorly for these guys, and they keep getting in line. It makes no sense. Don't take a gun with you. Wear a condom.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Right, right. If you're going to a club in Las Vegas, get a couple of bodyguards. Yeah. And take an Uber. And take an Uber. here's official proof that he's lost his mind kanye he's just done so donda sports the new sports edition do you see who's now the president of donda sports because because trump because who should who should donald trump no what athlete do you think kanye has selected yes it Is the president of Donde's? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You tag Antonio because there's a solid decision maker. There's a guy that's got it all put together that's going to really take that company to the next level. Can you imagine what one of their play dates would look like? Oh, my God. Do you think they talk to each other in English or is it like kids? That would make me so happy. Absolutely hilarious.
Starting point is 00:20:04 You know, have you absolutely hilarious little toddlers playing they're on the same page but they're not saying anything yeah that's how it is i don't get the whole i mean i feel bad for him doing that guy he just spent he's got dollars on an owner's suite for the super bowl i dude crazy crazy oh you know what else you know what else i forgot to mention this colt there's there'st, there's hope for you. Why? Because apparently, if you guys saw this, apparently you can compete in the Olympics, Colt.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And how's that? Apparently you just have to pick China. Oh. Did you guys? Do you know what I'm talking about? No. I know somebody that is high skating for that. Okay, how do you feel about this? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:40 How do you feel about this? So there's a girl that was born in San Francisco, right? She is a freestyle skier, very, very that was born in San Francisco, right? She is a freestyle skier. Very, very good. Born in San Francisco. American citizen. Mother is Chinese. She is competing for China in the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Smart business. How do you feel about that? I think that happened with a lot of the runners too, right? Ben Johnson was running for Canada, but he was Jamaican born. But here's the point. So was Donovan Bailey. But here's the point. Okay, but here's the point. So was Donovan Bailey. But here's the point. Does Canada have a record for being massively oppressive against Jamaican runners? Because I'm pretty sure China's record on women isn't that great. That's a hard one.
Starting point is 00:21:15 All I see at that, because she's a pretty girl, is money. I mean, she's got modeling contracts and stuff. Oh, yeah. She's Victoria's Secret. I'm sure they're like, hey, come and win us a gold, which she did, and we'll slide you a couple million behind the curtains or something like that. That would not be amateurish. That would not be amateurish.
Starting point is 00:21:32 No, but I guarantee something like that. NIL money. You know what you got to do is go golf with the Saudis. But they're pros. They don't need to. You hear about that? DeChambeau and those guys were offered like $25 million to come play golf. With the Saudis?
Starting point is 00:21:44 Gosh. Well, you see that happen with the birthday parties i mean j-lo or beyonce got paid very heavily like four or five years ago to sing at a birthday party wow i gotta get my level of talent up you gotta get at some point yeah all right well i might be able to get to the knockoff version on fremont i think i think that's got us caught up with current events. Let's actually get into the episode here. We're going to talk about the book Atomic Habits. If you are someone, look, man, if your life is not necessarily where you want it to be and things are not going how they are, your habits is the problem. Everybody sets goals, but habits are what really get you there.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Discipline. I think one of the best quotes I heard about that was, winners and losers had the same goal. Oh, for sure. I like that. Think about that. Think about you got two guys walking into a UFC cage. They both had the same goal to win the fight.
Starting point is 00:22:39 But one of them probably exercised better habits, created a higher skill level that allowed them to win. Unless now we're going to get a jujitsu. Well, not necessarily. You could have got a weird tumble where you got a Camaro and then moved it over there. Why did I pick UFC? I could have done anything there.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I can see the wheels turning when I said this. That's not exactly true. It's a little bit of opposite flavor. There was a saying that all those colored jackets of the dead bodies that were left on Everest were high-functioning, highly motivated people as well yeah no i agree with that but like people do dream boards and they just put their goals on there right like you should really if you're doing dream board you should that's not a plan no no but if you do a
Starting point is 00:23:18 dream board you should say okay well for me it's going to take me to make this much money this much money is this many leads this much much leads going to phone calls. This many phone calls is this. And it should be a whole thing to your dream. People are just like, yeah, you should, right? Like a mini business plan. It can be as simplistic as a dream board business plan. But, you know, too many people just come and say,
Starting point is 00:23:38 well, my dream is to do this. How the hell are you going to get there? You got to plan. People think that if you just, it'll manifest itself by you thinking about it. You need discipline to create habits. Well, let's, let's talk about that. So in the book, atomic habits, you know, it breaks down a lot of things. You know, the number one thing it talks about when you're, when you're trying to build or develop a habit or any habit that you already have really comes down to four key laws
Starting point is 00:23:59 is what it is. And those laws are cue, craving, response, and reward. That's it. Everything you do in your life comes down to those four things. Let's talk about like chocolate chip cookies. What would the cue be? You'd walk in the house, you smell the Oda Spunk and Meyer cookies. You smell the Oda Spunk and Meyer cookie cooking. You smell it. No pump cookie. You smell the Oda Spunk and Meyer cooking and you smell it. That's the cue. All right. The craving is now like, oh my gosh, I want that cookie. The response is you eat the cookie and the reward is you sit there feeling oh that was good cookie and everything you pretty much do across the board it works exactly the same way so changing your habits is understanding how they work and really breaking them down the key way so
Starting point is 00:24:41 you know totally agree yeah i mean what if your rewards are not i mean like i said people always say i want to be rich yeah you can be rich if you want to but the the you know your cues all that the get to that rich the reward might not be i want rich i want time off and if you don't have all those lined up then then you become, you're not getting those goals, right? People want a lot more to do the other things that do than they are to do something they're not doing. Oh, sure. I mean, getting in shape, I'd love to, but the reward and satisfaction. Let's talk about that. We're going to talk, we're actually going to talk about that. We'll break that down and how to actually get there. But yeah, the, you know, but the first thing, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:24 if you look at a couple of insights from this thing, small habits can change and produce outsized effects and improve or degrade the quality of our life. People don't realize the kind of the domino effect that you have when you do things. Like for example, let's say you're a cigarette smoker, which,
Starting point is 00:25:38 you know, Jesus, God help you. If you're still smoking cigarettes, let me, let me make a plea to you right now. Stop smoking cigarettes. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Just stop. It says right on the pack. cigarettes good lord it says right on the pack it says right there right on the pack it says they're bad for you and this is coming from explain why i smoke i smoke cigarettes for a long time when i went in my in my younger days and thank god my wife when i first met her was like yeah no that's not gonna happen and that was the end of that but but yeah if you're still smoking it's just terrible for you but if you stop smoking right you're not you don't even realize all the long-term benefits you're going to have. And let me just walk you through this, right? If you were to quit smoking cigarettes, how much – I don't even know how much cigarettes are now. They've got to be like six bucks a pack or something.
Starting point is 00:26:17 In Canada, they're like $19 a pack. Oh, Jesus. All right. So if you're – okay, let's say you're a – let's go with a pack-a-day smoker in Canada. Here, let's say they're $8. $8. Okay, let's say you're an $8-a with a pack a day smoker in Canada. Here, let's say they're eight. Eight dollars. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Let's say you're an $8 a day smoker. I mean, now you're talking about picking up 365 times eight. Yeah. It's about 3,400 bucks. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's, I mean, now you may not have, now that may not, you may not look at that as that much money.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Over 20 years. But hang on. No, no, no, no, no. But let's say you save, you save $3,000 a year now because you're not buying cigarettes all right so now maybe you can afford a little bit nicer car so maybe you're not as stressed out as you were because your bills are a little easier to pay you don't really notice it but it's there now let's figure out the part where you say like maybe now you don't reek like cigarettes. Yeah. Then people that smoke, I don't care what you do.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You reek like cigarettes. Awful. I don't care what you, you stink. I'm sorry. You do. Apology to anybody. No,
Starting point is 00:27:12 I'm a huge cigar smoker. Like I was at a cigar bar Saturday and some lady was smoking a cigarette and everybody in the cigar bars, like looking at her, telling people, get her out. But you don't realize that affects your business. Somebody, you don't do business. your business. You don't smell like God, but that
Starting point is 00:27:27 almost makes me want to start smoking cigarettes just to go to the cigar bar, clear all those guys. Because I hate those. Look, I don't mind guys. No, listen, I don't mind that. Cigar bar, fine. You're there for that. I hate the jackasses in the casino walking around carrying a cigar. Don't walk to a casino with a lit cigar.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Obnoxious. It's obnoxious. Just because you're here, it's not like somebody just had a baby. You don't have to light up a cigar. Don't walk to a casino with a lit cigar. It's obnoxious. It's obnoxious. Just because you're here, it's not like somebody just had a baby. You don't have to light up a cigar. Are those the best cigars? But again, let's move it. So now you don't smell bad. So maybe, maybe you attract a better mate.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Maybe you go to a job interview because I promise you, I have not hired a lot of people that have walked in my office because they smell like cigarettes. Yeah, it's really bad if you don't i just have not maybe now you get a better job but these are all little intangible things when most people are just thinking about the health benefit that i have if i stop smoking you don't think about all the other little intangible things they're losing psychologically yes all they worry about is the
Starting point is 00:28:21 crutch the real the real quick crutch that happens crutch that happens when they are going to light that cigarette or not light that cigarette. And you know what you learn? The number one thing you learn after quitting smoking cigarettes? What's that? That you don't even like smoking cigarettes. No, you don't. You're addicted to a drug.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Right. But it's not even that. No, no, no. I don't think that. It really is. I think you're reinforcing a drug all the time. You think, oh, this is what's relieving my stress, this action, this habit, this behavior. Oh, I'm social.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I need to go out and do this with my friends. None of that is true. But people are, I think people, now granted, nicotine is addictive. And I'm not saying it's not. But I'm also going to say that I think people are more addicted to the ritual of cigarettes. That's right. I eat a meal. Now I smoke a cigarette.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I get a cocktail. Now I smoke a cigarette. I take a break. Now I smoke a cigarette. I get in my car. I take a cigarette. I get a cocktail, now I smoke a cigarette. I take a break, now I smoke a cigarette. I get in my car, I take a cigarette. I get in the morning, I smoke a cigarette. And the ritual reinforces the drug. Absolutely, the ritual is there.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And that's why I don't miss it at all. And I thought I would. I thought I had this big, oh, it's a part of my personality. It's not that I don't miss it. I don't even think about it. Think about it because it's not a reinforced habit. It doesn't even occur to me. Other than when I'm sitting at the bar and I'm that jerk.
Starting point is 00:29:24 The person next to me at the bar. Oh, I'm that person. I'm the worst. Oh, I hate cigarettes. I'll never be that person. But I do understand non-smokers. I am totally that person. Next point is habits are intertwined with their personal identity.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Now, what I mean by that is based on who you are as a human probably has a lot to do with the habits that you keep. For example, if you are someone that is Mormon, you avoid caffeine, you avoid stimulants. You try to, if you are someone that is Muslim, you pray several times a day, a religion, people that are religious have an overwhelmingly impact on their life, on their personal habits and the things that happen. So I, you know, when I, when I So when I went back to this in the book and I read this part, and really it was based on religion. If you are someone that tithes,
Starting point is 00:30:10 it's just part of who you are and it's people that tithe tend to be more caring about others and it just becomes part of your habit and part of your ritual. I am not an overly religious guy. I am spiritual but not church-going religious. I mean, I like church.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I grew up Catholic. The nuns maybe beat that out of me a little bit. Kids go to Catholic school. But yeah, I am spiritual. I mean, I believe in God. I'm all about it. We go to church. I like going to church when we go, but I'm not. I don't feel like I have to be in a church to be spiritual, if that's a good way to put it. But when I say that, I also started thinking, I don't have a lot of limitations on my daily routine that are brought about by religion. Like I don't have a daily prayer moment. I don't have anything in my life.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Do either one of you guys have anything based on religion? So I'm not religious either. If anything, I actually once in a while go to a Buddhist monastery in town. I have like an hour meditation. Okay. And I like yoga. I like those times. It's good to shut your phone off.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Unplug. And you literally sit there for an hour. It's not religious. It's not doctrinal. But it's a practice. Yeah. Right? And there's this really great YouTube video called Atheism 2.0.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And it's this guy that gives a breakdown of all the sort of things that atheists miss, right, in religion, that religion provides. Ritualistic behaviors, right? The ritual of a moon coming around, that cycle of a harvest celebration. Sermonizing, listening to somebody with pure attention as they speak. Now, who that is, we get it from podcasts, we get it from audiobooks. But I will sit and listen to somebody who's learned it on a topic, right? And that's a part of sermonizing. And that's something that gets missed. So church and religion and all these things have positive benefits.
Starting point is 00:31:54 They have negative benefits, which aren't the point of this conversation, right? No. Let's not steer into it. Let's not steer into that part. Let's not steer that part. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is a mistake that people have made, right? So culturally, gatherings, being aware of other people, things like tithing, things of being grateful for what you have, moments of reflection.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Those are very positive things that it behooves everybody to build into their own life in their own way, but as a habit. But I think it's not just about religion though in this one your personal day i think if you look at for example like why did i ever smoke cigarettes like why did that even happen and the answer is because the answer is because i was in the service industry and everybody did that in the service industry in itself yeah and the sir and the service i had a fire guy once because i got him smoking weed outside. He was like, he was standing there arguing with me saying, well, they get a smoke break. Why don't I get a smoke break?
Starting point is 00:32:50 That's what I'm laughing at. Fair point. Mike Duda in St. Louis, Missouri, if you're listening to this, buddy, I still think about that. And I still remember your name because of it. It was a solid argument back then. Anyway. Jesus. But it's true. But that tribe that you're in
Starting point is 00:33:08 right and that's why because what everybody did so if you don't like a lot of your habits if you don't like a lot of the things that you're doing maybe stop and take a look at your tribe because maybe your tribe you're surrounded with is feeding a lot of those bad habits is feeding a lot of those things and if you're not getting where you want to get, maybe it's part of that. Show your friends. Yeah, we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be back in a second. We're going to keep discussing the book Atomic Habits by James Clear. And, yeah, probably whatever else is going to get us canceled.
Starting point is 00:33:36 We'll see. We'll be back in a minute. Hey, it's John Gafford. If you want to catch up more and see what we're doing, you can always go to thejohngafford.com. We'll share any links of things we talked about on the show, as well as links to the YouTube where you can watch us live. And if you want to catch up with me on Instagram,
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Starting point is 00:34:17 I'd appreciate it. Every little bit helps out. But again, we're talking about Atomic Habits, the book by James Clear. If you don't like where your life is, you don't like how things are going, man, might be time to start taking a look at your habits. And hopefully some of these tips today that we're going to give you will help you analyze some of the stuff you're doing and get it better. So moving right in, now that we kind of analyzed figuring out what's wrong with ourselves and what we're doing that might be damaging ourselves.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I am kind of mad that this is Olympic week. Yeah. And we're just going to gloss over that i already said no we already said here's the deal you could have just gone and done something for china we talked i could but winter's winter olympics is way harder than no you think so 100 oh i think i think you would have been fine in the in the uh what is it the did you see that luge why couldn't he be in the luge you know know, I actually. We strap him to it and send him down.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I almost went to. A bobsled competition? Dude, those guys are like 6'4", 240. They're middle linebackers. Yeah, they are. And they run 4'3". Those are fast. What about when you're one of the guys that just gets in.
Starting point is 00:35:18 No, the skeleton. We're strapping to that thing. I almost went to a tryout for that. My brother was on a U.S. ski team. We're onto something. I'm more and more convinced that Colt may be onto something here. Because the bobsled does all the work. Yeah, but you got beat fast and big.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'm kidding. Those guys will fight you. I'm pretty sure I can beat up every equestrian out there. Oh, God. Anyways, I was looking at it. It's on NBC. The peacock is the peacock, not the greatest male version of a species? Chris?
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's not bad. Right? Name a better male version of a species. Well, first off, a male lion does nothing. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, they're the worst. But have sex and come steal the food of the women that got caught. Best male version of a species.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I think a lot of male lions got it pretty easy. No, but peacock's beautiful. He's saying just rock and roll. He's saying just better than the example. What about the mating habits of the blue-tailed skrouse? Colt, have you ever looked into the blue-tailed skrouse? That was number six. That mating dance was spectacular.
Starting point is 00:36:22 You think I'm kidding. That was number six. Look at the blue tailed scruffs okay all right what are we talking about oh yeah we're talking about habits that's right that's right yeah shocking case you were wondering if i didn't know what my favorite mating dance of a it was the number three people that want to break a bad habit may wish to use a commitment device which is a preventative measure that limits future actions. Now, we have done this before when we did the Fit Club, which we never did at dinner. We should, but it worked.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Where essentially, you know, we talk about all the time that you will run further, you will run faster away from pain than you will towards pleasure. So if you want to do something to model yourself, accountability is huge in developing new habits. I mean, get an accountability partner. Find somebody else that wants to accomplish the same things you do get together and say look every time that i don't do what i'm supposed to do i'm going to give you 10 bucks or whatever it is have a negative consequence for not doing what you want to do i think that's perfectly perfectly acceptable i think that um i was a pretty good accountability buddy because You were? Because I had to put zero dollars in that kitty.
Starting point is 00:37:27 You did. We worked out in Egypt. That was strong. We worked out in Egypt. In Egypt. I didn't join. But do that whole process through everybody. There was, I mean, guys like Gorton.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Ah, whatever. Put my money in the kit. Whatever. That's all good. I'm not working out there. I'm like, why wouldn't you get up and walk for 15 minutes and just go count it? Just to not have to do it. Because I don't want the W.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I don't want the L. I want the W. Well, I think the biggest one right now, and if you haven't done this, I think this is a good idea, is every single app phone, I don't know, Android maybe, I'm not sure, but every single phone has screen time limitations where you can set limitations on how long you can be on certain apps. I know on my kids' phones, they're all limited. I'm just not going to do the 12-hour staring at the screen thing.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I mean, especially if you have kids that have phones, do that. Do that for them today. Set up some parental controls. Limit how long they can stare at YouTube. Limit some of these things for them. I promise you, it is a gift that will pay off. It's amazing that people, they are so addicted. Like, I watch people flip over in instagram
Starting point is 00:38:26 they're looking at the same shit they looked at five minutes ago it's like no like i know i i sit there and it's a habit it's a reinforced it is it's a dopamine it's a bam bam i have found myself and i was doing that i have found myself at times sitting on the couch scrolling compulsively yeah like i can't you know Like I can't put the phone down. I'm scrimm-timed myself, John. Yeah, I'm scrim-timed too. I'm scrim-timed myself because I didn't realize how much I was doing it. I turned that into like I got on Twitter is an amazing thing if you use it right.
Starting point is 00:38:57 There is a real estate Twitter forum group, and I'm telling you this thing, you learn more in a weekend with this group than you would in an mba class for real estate like there's certain ones like that i i'm on my phone like reading stuff but yeah you get on i like a year ago i'm like the hell do i keep looking at this the same damn picture looking up real estate and how to improve in your profession and all that stuff that to me i think it's obnoxious where we give virtue to paper books, right? We think that it's okay to sit down and play.
Starting point is 00:39:30 My son plays three hours of chess tonight. Whoa. No, that's excessive doing that. Your son is a savant. Yeah. But my kid plays three hours of Minecraft tonight. Your kid's an asshole. Your kid's a lazy sack of shit.
Starting point is 00:39:42 The kid playing chess, you're still playing games, right? So I don't buy into the whole knowledge needs to be from a a dusty tome yeah well but it can be your twitter and you can spend a significant time if you're learning and improving yourself yeah but but i'll say this though too even you know we had the issue with my son last week we got in trouble so he lost his electronics and, dude, he is such a better dude when he's not plugged in, man. He's just a better human being. My oldest son went that way. I like being around him more.
Starting point is 00:40:11 He's more engaged. He's more motivated. I mean, like things that I haven't seen, like musical instruments got busted out this week. And I was like, oh, yeah, right on. Great. You know, it's amazing because they get so addicted to it. It's terrible. So limit your kids, but having those things that are good.
Starting point is 00:40:27 But again, setting some sort of consequence on yourself if you don't perform your whatever your new task is, is good. Now, let's get more into process. And I like this, too, which is one of the problems with Western society is we are so caught up in instant gratification. Everything is instant, instant, instant. If you are a if you are a heavy person, you didn't get fat one day. I did not.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I have a countdown on my phone right now because we're going to Cabo for my birthday, and I have a countdown on my phone. I know exactly how many days to leave to defat myself with my weigh-in on it and how many days. And every time I go to eat or look at any food, I look at that countdown. I'm like, bro, I got 51 days to make weight. I got problems. I days to make weight i got problems but every it's it didn't take me one day to get like this like this was a steady you know your bad habits add up and i think a good way to look at it what people understand is we're so caught up in instant gratification you have to understand that you didn't get in the predicament
Starting point is 00:41:21 you're in overnight right you're not going to get out of it necessarily overnight. And little changes either way will guide you to where it is. And how you determine the quality of a habit, and I thought this was really interesting, as you're analyzing the things that you do as you go along, how you analyze the quality of a habit is if it has short-term, quick, good, good, but long-term bad, it's a bad habit. Most good habits have short-term challenges, but long-term bad. It's a bad habit. Most good habits have short-term Challenges but long-term benefits long-term benefits, you know You're not gonna get in shape unless you go to the gym every day
Starting point is 00:41:52 That might be a sacrifice you have to make you can't eat ho-hos or whatever else it is But man, if you sit around any cupcakes man that instant good. Well, that was great. You know, it's so funny You talk about building up on habits. You're 100% right. I Prefer actually eating good food. My wife's an angel. She'll prepare good food every night. So we have a lean protein, asparagus, all that stuff. I feel a lot better, and I start to like that food more.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Oh, yeah. The more you expose yourself to good food, you're going to crave good food. Yeah. The more you go to the gym, like I was in jujitsu this morning, and I was sitting there thinking, sometimes I get up, and I don't want to go do it, and I'm sitting here thinking to the gym like I was in jujitsu this morning and I was sitting there thinking Sometimes I get up and I don't want to go do it And I'm sitting here thinking about the privilege that I have I get to to be able to go roll around a jiu-jitsu I had a great class learned a couple techniques. I've never really used before. I just felt so good about it Like why this isn't a sacrifice. No. Well, well the thing
Starting point is 00:42:41 But it's how you talk to yourself, right? I mean again That's why I love a really quick change you can make in your life. If you want to make a huge impact in your life is change the word have to to get to. Yeah. Oh, man. It's that I have to make all these calls. I have to go prospect.
Starting point is 00:42:54 It's like, dude, I get to. I'm not going to Walmart to stand there and ring people out. Ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching. While I'm soullessly losing my life for $14 an hour. You get to do those things. You get the opportunity for those. You get to go to the gym where there are people with screwed up discs or backs that can't do that, that would give anything.
Starting point is 00:43:14 That was always one of the problems that I had when my mother-in-law was living with us, man. And my mother-in-law, God bless her, but she just does nothing, man. She just wants to sit there and watch television. and when my dad was going through his final days and he was laying in those bed and he couldn't get up i he would have given anything just to be able to get up and just go outside 100 you know what i mean and i had to sit here sit there and watch her sit in a room and watch murder shows and waste her life and i was like bro they just it made me resent her so much because of that so the things that you may be looking at is you have to go do, you get to go to other than leg day. I'm not going to preach about leg day Wednesdays, Wednesdays. You got to look at your business same way as you're looking
Starting point is 00:43:56 at your weight loss, right? Like you're, you start cold calling. I had somebody go, I cold called the whole week. Nothing. Okay. Well for a whole week. Yeah. I'm sitting there like 52 of them in a year. Yeah. I'm sitting there like, yeah. And if you went and worked out for a week, you would see zero. You'd gain zero, which I have this week. But no, you, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So business and weight loss, like it'll take three, four months before you start seeing results of stuff. It might take three years of, I mean, you look at the Gortons, right? Like that took five, six years. Yeah. The, the break into that. Well, not only that, but when people, when people just start in real estate, when they first get in, I always tell people the same thing, which is like, look, this real estate is like a 10 speed in between gears. Like if you get on and, you know, and we give people a solid plan of process. And really what this book about is about atomic
Starting point is 00:44:44 habits at its core is falling in love with the process and not the goal. Like if you love the process, if you enjoy the process, you have the right to be happy right now. The obstacle is the way. Yeah, the obstacle is the way. You don't have to wait until your goal comes to conclusion to be happy. You can be happy right now if you fall in love with the process. And when people come to work for us with our team, we them a great process to follow we give them a great system to follow We give them everything they need to be successful and all they have to do is pedal
Starting point is 00:45:13 And as long as you pedal that 10-speed as long as you just pedal it every single day on day like 90 now people You drive that people come in pot million dollar deals the first week, but that's not the norm What I tell people is on about day 90, the gears are going to click. And if you just keep working consistently and keep pedaling, that bike will take you as far and as fast as you want to go. But you've got to continue pedaling. It is hard. But that's why people shake out.
Starting point is 00:45:39 If everybody was ultra motivated, it would be a lot more difficult to compete in the landscape like let's be honest if everybody did what you told them to do yeah and they followed with it and they followed the program every single agent there's 13 14 000 agents 20 000 20 000 agents nevada what if every single one of them were good and all the process crushed it make there would be 5 000 let's do let's do the math half of them don't sell one house a year. So that's 10,000. 10,000. We're down to that.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Of the 10,000, 3,000 are on the way out. Yeah. So that's 7,000. Of the 7,000, probably 4,000 to 5,000 of those do maybe one. So now we're down to 2,000. Of the 2,000, I'm going to call it, we'll call it 1,000 of them do a living, a good living. And then the top 1,000, that's it. Crushing, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And then maybe you got 200 that are crushing. So you got 5%, so you got 1%. That's not true. Maybe you got probably 1,000 are really killing it. So between 2% and 5% of agents. Nothing. What would happen, though, if every single agent was just a killer? No, you know what happened people would stop cancel cancel
Starting point is 00:46:49 culture would be over because instead of trying to tear the people's buildings down everybody would be building the tallest one that's what happened yeah so those two things honestly go hand in hand which is which is 100 why that's just like the horse race right that's why you put blinders on a horse so they just focus on running, not bust around them. It's just one of those things where I don't think, I don't know if anybody is really, were you given the tools? Like who gives you the tools? It comes from your parents?
Starting point is 00:47:13 Like how do you know? So here's the thing. It's in your genes, man. This is what I struggle with all the time. A lot of times people say, oh, these people pulled themselves up by your bootstraps, right? Nah, not always so. There are a lot of people that don't even know how to look for bootstraps
Starting point is 00:47:26 to pull themselves up. I think there's a lot of people that would if given good direction or opportunity, right? There's a mentor, somebody in their life that helps them see the way, right? There are prisons full of people that didn't have appropriate mentorship, that didn't have people that really cared about them, or somebody that was at home teaching them these lessons, right? This is where your kids are advantaged.
Starting point is 00:47:47 This is where your kids are advantaged. Well, I think that, and I think also, I think that's probably true. I think that, you know, when I was in the restaurant business forever, you know, it was one of my buddies that was always like, bro, what are you doing? You know, yeah, you're doing okay, but you're murdering yourself over this. What are you doing? You know, and that's what kind of got me out of that. Yeah, you're doing okay, but you're murdering yourself over this. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:48:07 And that's what kind of got me out of that. And I think, again, changing your environment, man, who you're around, I think, is such a huge thing. Which is why, like you look at Simply Vegas, like why do we guard who gets to work here so carefully? Like why do we not just let everybody with a real estate license and a pulse come over the breath? No, for this reason. Negativity. For this reason, dude. Negativity will bring you down. you know my whole tribe like my whole life was hospitality it's what i did you know running bars only bars what we always did
Starting point is 00:48:31 and so you're surrounded by a bunch of bar people there's nothing wrong bar people god bless you bartender love you love each one of you you're all so much fun but it wasn't really until you know i'd gotten out of that and then even starting my own companies that we did and then i got on the apprentice and then i got around all those people. And you know, you're living around 18, super high functioning, high driven type a personalities. Well, it dwindled as we were there. How many people were there, but still the idea is the same. And all of a sudden it's like, wait a second, have I not been, have I not been striving for what I've been striving? So I think a lot of it, honestly, is not internal. I don't think it's internal with
Starting point is 00:49:05 people. I think it's who you're around. I would say who you are around is more important than what's inside of you. Because I think inside of you, if you go to the gym and you're the fat guy and everybody's super fit, you suck your stomach in. Whether you plan on doing 1,000 squats or not, you suck your stomach in because you don't want to be that guy. Plenty of rooms I walk into and I'm like, okay, there we go. There it is. Good.
Starting point is 00:49:35 You do that. And I think if you're around a bunch of people that are succeeding, I think you'll be surprised at what you're finding in yourself. It's true. But like I said, I'm a nature-nurture hybrid kind of guy. I do believe that people are kind of the way they are. You have a personality type, right, that won't be affected.
Starting point is 00:49:49 So you would have bet against Eddie Murphy in Trading Places? You would have bet against him? I would have fully won that bet. You know Thomas Hobbes? He had that old, I think it was Thomas Hobbes. Yeah. Please, somebody fact check me.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Give that poor man a ten pence and a top hat and you'll see a completely different animal yeah right yeah give somebody you know an opportunity to be in this world that's why everybody strives for that world they know that i think at the end of the day if you're around it it's going to have a multiplier effect so people crave it so much that's why we have a tinder swindler out there who can make people feel like they they're going gonna get to enter this world right yeah i need to watch that every i turned it on fell asleep but no i i agree maybe it's not 50 50 but you need to have mentors and if you are somebody that when you don't if you're young and you you have family members that maybe are you know government workers or work for this system,
Starting point is 00:50:45 and you don't want that, you can't find that within your family. So go find a mentor that's in that to drive you towards that and show you the way. But I agree when you're around people, people with money, you're like, God, I need to make more money. People with, when you're out of shape, same thing. That's why I love the real estate business. Give me your tired your poor your hungry give me whatever you got give me any education level give me what it is if you've got a certain amount of panache to you you got a certain amount of personality you get with the right people you make you can make it in this business oh yeah i mean you can absolutely there
Starting point is 00:51:18 is no the barrier to entry is as much as is you you are your own barrier you don't have to be you don't have to you just. You don't have to. You just have to. You have to have a personality. Yeah, that's it. You just got to have something about you that shines a little bit and the willingness to earn. And I've seen people, man, I've seen this business change the lives of so many people, which is why, honestly, I love it so much. You know, people ask, you know, why do you still have a team?
Starting point is 00:51:43 Why do you do that? Because at this point with all of the other crap we have, I could have, I could have gotten rid of my team years ago, but I love it because that's the closest that I am on a day-to-day basis of developing others and changing lives. And that's what I love. And that's why I keep that. So, um, but let's talk about new habits. So how you talk about a new habit, even in themselves affects its implementation.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Again, we just talked about, I have to, versus I get to. I get to do this. If you thought a new habit, like, for example, if you were like, I want to get more sleep. The idea- Get an aura ring. Yeah, but I'm saying, no, but I'm saying if you're like, my goal is to get more sleep. The idea of that turning into reality is very slim and none, because there's no real process in that statement. Now, if you say, my goal is to get another hour of sleep a night, so I'm going to start winding down every day by 9.30, that's going to give you a high probability of actually turning that into something, of actually turning it into success. And you've got to create a relationship with
Starting point is 00:52:39 your good habits, and you've got to create a bad relationship with your bad habits. You've got to be very real and understanding that is good as frozen nutter butters are. And really should have been my number one cookie last week. Cause if you've ever had another butter, you put one in the freezer, it's a whole nother level. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Yeah. And we're talking about the worst part of this was creating a good environment in a minute, which my wife is against me daily when it's come to make weight as there's two things of frozen nutter butters in my freezer right now but no you know as good as that is i gotta understand where that's going i mean that you know that you know being out of shape leads to those times we've all had in the closet when you're standing there and like all of your clothes are on the ground in the closet because nothing looks right on you when you're like my clothes are all terrible no dude you're fat that's why
Starting point is 00:53:24 everything looks bad on you stupid that's why and, my clothes are all terrible. No, dude, you're fat. That's why everything looks bad on you. Stupid clothes. That's why. And we've all done. I don't know anybody that probably hasn't done that. Where you walk in and just like, nothing is right today. Nothing looks good. Nothing is going to work.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And all of that leads to those moments. So you've got to start attaching like my nutter butter habit with that. Like I don't want to go in the closet and not have anything to wear. I don't want to deal with that. I don't want to go in the closet and not have anything to wear. I don't want to deal with that. I don't want to see the pictures for my 50th birthday when I'm showing out, you know, the GDP of a small third world country for this event. And then be looking at the pictures.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Like, I don't want to see these pictures because I look like I'm fat and all these photos. I don't want to do that. To me, it's more important. Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:00 we're not going to Mardi Gras this year because of how dangerous this is in New Orleans. And I'm super disappointed about that. But on the flip side of that, I'm thinking I'm also not going to do a fouras this year because of how dangerous this is in New Orleans. And I'm super disappointed about that. But on the flip side of that, I'm thinking I'm also not going to do a four day Cajun food bender, which I would have. I have never come back from that trip less than 10 pounds ever because it's just not possible to do so.
Starting point is 00:54:17 So in my opinion, that's kind of like something I'm really upset about not getting to go to Mardi Gras. I'm like, ah, you know, it's okay. Cause I won't do that.
Starting point is 00:54:23 It'll keep me on my track to get to my big goal, which is to look as good as I can on my actual 50th birthday, which is coming up. To your other point though, to what helps in all that process is having your tribe help you out, being accountable by making open public statements about it. Yeah. Right. If you, if you put it out there, that's going to reinforce that whole process too. But at the same time though, you don't be one of those people that talks about it be about it i mean i hate those i hate those there's nothing worse than people that always talk about what they're gonna do here's what i'm gonna do so i'm gonna do you know don't be that person if you if if you have ever told somebody you were gonna do something and then you didn't do it just stop
Starting point is 00:55:02 telling them stuff just start doing stuff don't be that person never tell them again no what i'm saying is once you do put it out there though like if a couple starts talking around other couples about them getting a divorce they're high their likelihood of divorce is very high right right like if you oh because it's out there now because it's out there so when it's out there all of a sudden if you do care about what people think about you and you say i'm gonna do 75 hard john cole and i we're gonna do 75 hard we put it out there and you publish it on your facebook everybody goes and puts it on their facebook you are probably at a greater likelihood of high motivated people to actually follow through if the shame the feeling of not doing it is now you have to face public reprimand and consequences
Starting point is 00:55:39 for not doing what you said you nothing doing. Nothing worse than... Sometimes you got to let your tribe know what your goals are, right? Like my wife, I'm like, I need to lose weight, so please don't buy that crap. You know, and she will. Does she listen to you? No. No.
Starting point is 00:55:56 No. I have to say, my wife's like, you need to have some moniker of self-control. Why should it affect everybody else? I'm like, fatty? But my wife, I'm the only one that eats Oreos. Me and Giovanni. like yeah my wife will at least like so we've cut out because like i said january is where you start to cut yeah you bulk all year december then and i mean like intentionally but then january cut so we started cutting out a breakfast.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So she'll make shakes in the morning of Greek yogurt, spinach, chia. It tastes good. Yeah, sure. Of course. It all tastes very good. So she's willing to do that. So I have a very helpful partner. And like you said, you feel so much better when you eat better.
Starting point is 00:56:40 You don't realize how crappy food like again it gives you the instant like you eat that wendy's burger and the fry you're like oh so good and then 10 minutes later you're like i'm exhausted i don't know why this is so strange this is yeah this is so weird but when you eat good you know maybe it's not as instantly instantly rewarding as what you feel bad but during the day you feel energized you, you feel good, you feel great, and it goes on as it is. A new habit is more likely to become ingrained if it's easy. You've got to make it easy for yourself.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I mean, I try to remove, when I'm trying to develop a new habit on something, I try to remove anything that's going to come in the way of that. For me, like example, it is very important that I have a gym in my house if I'm going to work out because, for me, I don't mind working out. I like working out. But just it's the process of getting to the gym and doing that and life gets in the way. Like now I get up, I come downstairs, I go to the gym. Nothing can get in the way of that.
Starting point is 00:57:38 There's no side turn. There's no this. And other people are like, well, you can do that anyway. No, no, no. My phone was ringing this morning at 615 with a $ 000 problem i had to solve this morning thank god it got solved and it was okay but at the same time and like i don't get a there's no right there's no quiet time yeah so you don't find that having like a gym membership see for me not for me not for me on monday wednesday friday and it's the accountability okay that's that's better that
Starting point is 00:58:02 see that's a different thing for you see you have you have to hire, like for you, that's your thing. That's what makes it easy. You're like, well, I have to go because I have to go because I'm paying this guy to be there. 100%. He's there waiting for me. I have to go. That's what makes it easy for you.
Starting point is 00:58:17 So easy can be about convenience, like it is for me going downstairs, or it can be about another level of commitment that you can't get out of necessity, which is what you've done. But make your hats somewhat easy. I mean, look, if you want to eat better, buy better food. Have a plan. Have a system. Don't wake up with no food in your house and think, I'm going to eat better today. And you know, you can see leftover pizza and like Kentucky fried chicken is the closest place to your house.
Starting point is 00:58:43 You know, the probability of going there. So you've got to make it easy for yourself to achieve all those things and get that better'm going to eat that. You know Kentucky Fried Chicken is the closest place to your house. You know the probability of going there. So you've got to make it easy for yourself to achieve all those things and get that better food in front of you. And a habit takes, what, 23 days of consistently doing it before it starts? What is that? What it would be? Covey, right? Covey?
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah, Covey says I think it's like 27 days of consistently to build a new habit, I think is what it is. But yeah, again, I think it's just about- Do you think it's less than that no i don't know because again i think it's about i think if you look at it in the terms of trying to develop a habit that you don't like that just becomes a grain in you that's fine but i think if you develop a process and fall in love with the process i think you could do it much faster i think if the why that you're doing it makes sense but what happens to addicts yeah they do this thing they're in a different environment right yeah so they got three months at betty ford and they come out there they're
Starting point is 00:59:33 healthy their skin looks went from green to you know went from green to back to bright like that and and they're exercising and they they were reading books and because they're in the they're in the yeah they're in a bubble control they get home yeah start going on the same shippers that they were at and then falls apart falls apart because those things so you have to permanently do a hard delete well that's yeah that can be simplistic as like you know we're not all on the same level of certain things and you might have a buddy that's got a shitload of money that wants to go have two hour lunches every day or something like that. You have to remove people like that. So you don't get away from your habits. I mean, you cannot have people that are in
Starting point is 01:00:15 different, you just got to be careful, right? Like just like an addict, you can't go out with the same people if they're not, you know, having the same goal as you sometimes. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's probably the most important part of this. It says environments can be designed to better support good habits. So, yeah, you've got to design an environment to foster that. I mean, you've got to set yourself up. You've got to set yourself up for success. And, again, like you said, coming out of rehab and going back down to the corner and expecting to hang out with your friends again is nuts.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I don't understand. It's always so odd to me. My wife said this the other day. We were watching, I don't know, whatever she was watching, Vanderpump Rules or something, what it is. And one of the people who quit drinking and was hanging out dating somebody that still drinks. And she's like, I still don't understand how that works.
Starting point is 01:00:57 It doesn't. I don't think it does. How difficult is that? If this person had a problem with alcohol and then there were this person, this person is hammer time. Right. I mean, wouldn't that become, it's either got to become incredibly tedious for the person with the issue or. Or you have a designated driver and it's the bomb.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Yeah. Okay. See, there you go, Chris. It's not a have to, it's a get to. There you go. It's a positive and light. And I'm not, look, I'm not, if you're listening to're listening to this and you're somebody that is sober, God bless you. And I'm not saying, whatever, man.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I think that's awesome. It just seems to me that, again, being in a good environment and being in an environment that is pushing you towards your goals or supporting your goals or not tempting you to go back over is so important. I mean, maybe, you know what it is? I digress. I'm going to digress. Look how quickly I educate myself quickly because I'm going back to smoking. Because I don't even, I mean, dude, because I got a lot of cigarettes next to me. I could care less.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I don't even think about it. So my guess would be at a certain point, if you don't drink anymore, you haven't drank in years, you don't even think about it. I spent a majority of my life not drinking. Yeah, I got to believe. See, look at that. I educated myself in one fell swoop really in my 20s before i was because i'm in canada you could drink early and
Starting point is 01:02:09 i was stubborn and all like you know and it just was like i'm not doing that whatever they're like quinceaneras and uh what do they call it hammered get hammered like here's 15 17 angle yeah your environment's everything and i know a lot of people that are sober, and they have to be with sober people to keep where it's at. But there is, to a point, like, but everybody's different. Everybody has stronger mentality than others. I want to ask you a question, though. This is something that I've always thought was kind of really high level
Starting point is 01:02:40 as a concept, right? So you, now, again, I may be completely full of shit on this one ultimate discipline is not quitting drinking ultimate discipline is to have a drink and go home i see i think drinking is a bad example because i think people have i think certain people react chemically with alcohol in a way they should i'm not sure we all know people that have drank we know people are drinking right now that you're like, bro, that guy should not drink. You shouldn't drink. You shouldn't get drunk.
Starting point is 01:03:08 No, but I'm saying. How about if one drink turned in? They can't because it's a chemical reaction with the way their brain physiology works. So I'm not necessarily sure. Pick a different habit because I think drinking is a tough one. The science on that, I'm actually not sure if it's Bob has a drink. Bob lacks the discipline. No, I think alcohol trigger.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I think alcohol triggers the chemicals in Bob's brain differently than it triggers yours. Of course, everything, everything comes to dopamine receptors are a little different. I think that's something that is very repeated in AA and alcoholics, whatever. No,
Starting point is 01:03:38 I'm, I have a disease, right? You hear that all the time. Again, I've heard other people and chemical experts and doctors of addiction if you look at carl hart if you look at all these things a lot of that is unaddressed trauma a lot of it is things that are outside of i don't know that drinking a beer right ever makes
Starting point is 01:03:56 anybody so chemically fucked up dr jekyll mr hyde makes their mentality of what that back right let me let me ask you this let me ask you are there people that you know that are the general size and general weight that you are right that off of the same amount of alcohol that would make you just have ho-hum i'm gonna find and they are they're they're they're one of us they want to wrestle drunk there's something there's something different oh god i hate the one but there's something different in that i think that people react differently but what i'm saying is this there's nobody who's drunk after a beer right so it's so to me i think that this is a great way to be if you're an alcoholic
Starting point is 01:04:36 and it causes you problems in your life right don't drink right yeah the ultimate discipline though of human mastery right if you get to that mental space where you truly master who you are and have the discipline or whatever wouldn't it be something where you go yeah i have a beer socially every now and then because i that's i can say no to the second cookie i can say no a lot of people can't a lot of people can't can't they when it comes to food i tell you i struggle so do i do I, man. Stress eater. I am. I'm a stress eater.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Like I have a piece of pizza. I'm like, I eat healthy a lot of times. But then like this weekend, ate a pizza. Dude, I probably ate a 16-inch pizza by myself. And then the next day, I'm like, why did I do that? I want to throw up. And then I saw leftovers. What did I have for lunch?
Starting point is 01:05:23 Like it goes down to it. Well, for me, for example, this morning, 6, 15, whatever it was, when I got the message that we may have a $400,000 problem that we don't, what do you think the first thing I did was? Eat. Butter, butter. Up in the fridge. I didn't eat anything because I caught myself, but the very first thing I did when I hung up that phone was up in the fridge.
Starting point is 01:05:41 But again. And I was like. But do you see what I'm saying? Do you see what I'm saying, though, i'm saying though about not everybody's disciplined ultimately disciplined yeah because you can have a glass of wine but i hang on but i caught myself opening the fridge because i'm currently in the mood where i'm trying to trying to get somewhere my just if it was if it was over this and i was just like what i've been doing for six months i would have grabbed something out of the fridge and just grab a string cheese and just eat it. Dude, because that's just what I was doing.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Now I'm catching myself because I have a goal attached that is creating discipline. But my standard just operating procedure was just stress, eat, stress, eat, stress, eat. The wife and I like to have a glass of wine at night, so we're trying to cut that out, right? So Monday to Thursday, you're not drinking.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah, just straight whiskey. It's harder for me to have a glass of wine than it is to not drink when i want to drink it's easier to not drink at all oh i agree with that easier i agree with that totally than it is to have a glass of wine and i'll have a second no i'm going to i have to get an internet night at hanks all right i'm bringing water i already said i'm just i'm not even because i don't want one i'm just because i got a lot to do tomorrow. Because you've made a decision. Yeah. The problem is when you open a door, right? The problem with discipline is the door that gets opened.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yeah. Right? If you're stuck on a thing where you, no, I go to the gym at seven, every day at seven, all of a sudden something happens where it's 8.30. Well, now the door is open. You've passed seven. So that's the hardest part of being disciplined is to go i'm not throwing the baby out the bath water here yeah yeah it deviated from my hard line plan but i'm so disciplined that i'm going to bring it back in you know on this next round or whatever i go from
Starting point is 01:07:16 when i think disciplines everything and i think that we're all pretty disciplined people but we all we all know a lot of people that are not disciplined. Amen. Like I, I could, I could rattle out probably 75% of people I know are not that. I know Colt. I've seen you with your ammets around Japanese vending machines. Oh Jesus. Not good.
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