Escaping the Drift with John Gafford - Escaping the Drift - The Weekly Drop: Unlocking the Power of Controversy

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

Generating buzz might sound risky, but it can be the secret weapon your brand needs to thrive. Join me, Jon Gafford, as I unpack the surprising power of controversy in brand marketing. We'll dissect J...aguar's audacious ad campaign that had everyone talking, and I'll draw connections to the legendary New Coke saga from the 1980s. Discover how these bold moves, despite initial criticism, kept these brands in the spotlight, illustrating that sometimes, breaking the mold can yield the most dramatic results. With insights from the likes of Apple, this episode offers actionable strategies to keep your business at the forefront of public conversation, no matter how fast the news cycle spins. In the second half of the episode, I share my enthusiasm for our latest "Escaping the Drift" content. There’s nothing as rewarding as connecting with our podcast community, and I hope you find as much value and excitement in the episode as I did. Stay engaged by visiting escapingthedrift.com for updates, and help us grow by leaving a five-star review and spreading the word. Let's continue to support each other and expand our reach as we chart new territories in the podcasting world.   💬 Did you enjoy this weekly drop? Tell us all about it in the comment section below!    ☑️  If you liked this video, consider subscribing to Escaping The Drift with John Gafford  ************* 💯 About John Gafford: After appearing on NBC's "The Apprentice", John relocated to the Las Vegas Valley and founded several successful companies in the real estate space.   ➡️ The Gafford Group at Simply Vegas, top 1% of all REALTORS nationwide in terms of production. Simply Vegas, a 500 agent brokerage with billions in annual sales Clear Title, a 7-figure full-service title and escrow company.   ➡️ Streamline Home Loans - An independent mortgage bank with more than 100 loan officers. The Simply Group, A national expansion vehicle partnering with large brokers across the country to vertically integrate their real estate brokerages.   *************   ✅ Follow John Gafford on social media:   Instagram ▶️ / thejohngafford   Facebook ▶️ / gafford2   🎧 Stream the new Weekly Drop here: Listen On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cWN80gtZ4m4wl3DqQoJmK?si=2d60fd72329d44a9 Listen On Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/escaping-the-drift-with-john-gafford/id1582927283    *************   #weeklydrop #johngafford #brandmarketing #controversy #jaguar #newcoke #apple #publicity #fastpacednewscycle #productlaunches #buzz #escapingthedrift #podcastcommunity #loyalaudience #mailinglist #fivestarreview #mutualsupport #chartingnewterritories

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From the podcast that gets you from where you are to where you want to be escaping the drift. This is the weekly drop with John Gafford. No matter what platform you're watching or listening to us on, make sure you like, subscribe and comment. And now the drop. What's up everybody? Time for your weekly drop from my podcast. It takes you from where you are to where you want to be. And I got to tell you, man, I'm a little under the weather today. I'm feeling a little rough, feeling a little like I don't wanna do this. But you know what? Like anything great in life, if you don't wanna do it,
Starting point is 00:00:30 that's when you have to do it. And last week was Thanksgiving, so we didn't do an episode. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna come down to the studio, I'm gonna stuff it out, I'm gonna be there for you guys today. And I wanna talk about something.
Starting point is 00:00:41 You know, as fast as the news cycle moves, I need you guys to go way back in time for me way back in time to last week Because things come in and out of the news so fast I know that but this was pretty big news last week and I really thought a lot about it And I wanted to see what you guys thought so if you didn't see it Everybody did because everybody was talking about it, but Jaguar came out with a new branding package last week that was really bizarre. It was like off the wall, like crazy gender bending, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:18 actors and models and it had nothing to do with a car and just a really artsy super over the top type ad ad they came out that they did and they got blasted and every talking head from Charlie Kirk to Fox and everybody was talking about this everybody was talking about it and they were saying how stupid they were how you know the election was you know proof that the woke culture was done and people don't want this anymore and they you know Why would you do this and this and that and I saw it instantly for something completely different? And this is what I saw it for One of my good friends dallas mccray. I always used to say
Starting point is 00:02:02 Man, you ain't got to worry about how people talk about you. It doesn't matter if you're talking good or talking bad. It's when they stop talking about you, you got a problem. And I looked at that as soon as I, as soon as I saw the Jaguar ad, I thought about that. When's the last time you thought or talked about Jaguar? And the answer is probably you didn't. And if you look at some major companies through the years and over the history of these big companies, sometimes people got to a point where they're like, we need a little bit of buzz. We need, we need some buzz. We got to do something kind of off the wall.
Starting point is 00:02:40 So today what I'm going to talk about is why I think Jaguar did that and how important it is in some ways that you can create buzz for whatever your So today what I'm going to talk about is why I think Jaguar did that and how important it is in some ways that you can create buzz for whatever your company is and what every company is doing and how to do that now. So the very first thing I thought about when I saw the Jaguar ad was new Coke. And for those of you that are younger and youngins, if you will, you won't probably remember this but back in the early 80s when we had horse-drawn carriages and whatnot no I'm just
Starting point is 00:03:09 kidding but back in the early 80s there was Pepsi started doing these taste tests everywhere these blind taste tests against Coke and they were heavily advertising these taste tests because people kept picking kept picking in a blind taste test they would pick Pepsi, which had a higher sugar content in it than Coke did. So Coke comes out and says, for the first time in a hundred years or whatever it was, we're going to reformulate our product and we're launching new Coke. And then they put out this new completely different tasting formulation
Starting point is 00:03:46 of what they had they discontinued the original stuff I got rid of it and everybody started talking about coke I mean it was every people like this is not as good blah blah blah and it went up it was like upheaval over new Coke but everybody was talking about Coke and this before the internet is for all that stuff. So this was literally just like mouth to mouth, hand to hand, you know, the TV would talk about it, but whatever it was just such a huge buzz over this product. And then what happened was this.
Starting point is 00:04:17 So now you got this, this huge company that's created all this buzz, maybe not for the right reasons, but you know, people are buying the product to try it and they're more mainly so they can just bitch about it but then you have this giant like outcry for like we miss the old coke we miss the old coke and then coca-cola comes out and says you know what people we hear you we listen to you we understand you we're gonna launch classic coke and this was pretty close behind it wasn't that far and then they released classic coke and I can remember as a kid Right. I had some friends down the street the Adamsons and there was always like coke at their house Right and I can remember like it was their mom Maybe that like the day that classic coke came out cuz they they kind of I don't remember if they said it was gonna be like
Starting point is 00:05:04 They kind of, I don't remember if they said it was going to be like a limited edition deal or not, but the day it came out, she went out and bought like 12 cases of like classic Coke because people thought they were going to have to like hoard it. It was so funny. But that little exercise, you know, eventually new Coke became a footnote. They got rid of it and then they pushed forward, but it turned the tables on that Pepsi war. It got nobody talking about Pepsi anymore. Everybody was just talking about Coke. And over the long run, it changed their brand
Starting point is 00:05:30 because that's how the value of buzz can help whatever it is you're doing. If you look at Apple, like think about Apple. Apple launches all of their products on one day, like they have the big Apple announcement. Now I get it these days, it's not as exciting with Steve Jobs gone because let's face it. A, you know, it now weighs 0.10th of a gram less and has a little bit faster processor.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It hasn't really been anything great from Apple in a hot second, but there are still people that like wait for that countdown and wait for that show because they start to promote it as this big event. And then they just drop it all. Like it's a big drop. And it creates a tremendous amount of buzz. And there's a book called Contagious, How to Build Word of Mouth in the Digital Age.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And in that it talks about one of the most important things to create buzz is having some exclusivity. And again, if you are a person or a service or a product and you're for everyone, then you're for no one. And you'll hear big companies think that way a lot. If you try to be for everyone, then you're going to be for no one. And so by having an exclusivity part to whatever it is you do, like for example, when I, when I talk about real estate, me personally selling real estate anymore, I specifically tell people when I talk about real estate, if I'm going to work with somebody buying or selling a home,
Starting point is 00:06:52 I only work with high net worth clients. That's what I say anymore. That, that's where I'm at in my career. I only do this. And then I really do only do that because it creates some exclusivity to work with me. You know, if you look at Tesla, who Elon Musk has just become a master at creating buzz around things, it doesn't always have to be good. Like, just like the new Coke thing, right? If you think about what Tesla got the most buzz for in the last several years, it was when he tried to sma- he was when he took that hammer, walked up to the cyber truck and broke the window there wasn't supposed to be breakable but who
Starting point is 00:07:29 do you think was pushing that out harder than anybody else Tesla was because it was everywhere and everybody was talking about it and nobody remembers that window break breaking but they were talking about Tesla so lean into your imperfections lean into those things that make you remarkable because like there's a book called the purple cow by Seth Godin, where it talks about businesses excel when they stand on being unique or remarkable and remarkable doesn't always have to be remarkably good. It can just be remarkably interesting, remarkably funny, remarkably top of mind. You know,
Starting point is 00:08:06 my good friend Steve Sims always created a lot of buzz around him and his brand by doing one simple stupid thing. And that was, he would go into back when they had the Sky Mall magazines on the airplanes and he would go into the Sky Mall magazine and he would find that if you remember what those were, they had just, it was a collection of goofy stuff, right? And he would go into those magazines and we'd find like the, the weird, like big foot, you know, statue that you put in your yard that you know, nobody's ordering.
Starting point is 00:08:31 He would rip that statue out. He would write, I saw this. And I thought of you put it in an envelope and send it to one of his clients. And he said, the value of that was my clients would get it. Be like, no more. Why am I getting this number two they would be at a dinner party and they would share it because it was remarkably interesting hey this guy Steve Sims sent me this thing and said hey you know it's a Bigfoot statue like why why would he have thought of me when he saw this and now the whole table is talking about Steve Simms.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And if you look at what Elon Musk has done, not just with breaking a window along those things, but he did something, and this is where now building a buzz becomes a little bit easier. Because for the last several years, everybody that I know in business that has a big business, we've been a little terrified of getting canceled of saying the wrong thing of doing the wrong thing being perceived to be the wrong thing and getting canceled and it was a real
Starting point is 00:09:34 fear with business owners than I know I know that for years I've taught you know don't talk politics because half of the people you do business with aren't gonna agree with you you know it's just one of those things where you're so scared of doing this. But again, it goes back to that thing of if you're not for like, if people don't know what you're for, then you're for no one. You can't be for everybody. No product is for everybody. You've got to be for something.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And I think Elon Musk, if you talk about one of the two, what launched that dude into the stratosphere in my opinion, and in the recent times of being everyone's hero is when he sat on the stage after he bought Twitter and that reporter asked him at that press conference, what do you have to say about all the advertisers pulling out or threatening to pull out because of you buying this? And he looked right at the camera. And he said, what do I think? I think go fuck yourself. I think he goes, you're going to blackmail me with money. Like something I literally have more of than anybody on the planet.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's how you're going to blackmail me. Go fuck yourself. And right there, that dude became an absolute hero to so many people that I know, me included. I was like, whoa, this is, he does not care. He literally doesn't care. And that moment of becoming for something and becoming this is who I am, take it or leave it, got him a tremendous amount of buzz just a huge amount of buzz and you don't necessarily have to be in that I think that's a good lesson
Starting point is 00:11:11 that you don't have to be create buzz around what you're necessarily good at or what you do I mean you look at Red Bull you know yeah they got their stupid little cartoon commercials are out there but But how does Red Bull create buzz? How do they create buzz around their product? Well, it seems like every time I'm going through the internet and I'm seeing some absolutely insane thing happening, like a dude jumping off a hot air balloon that's going to land in a biplane and then, you know, drop in on a half pipe and then serve Malibu all in one move. It's all got Red Bull logos all over it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 pipe and then serve Malibu all in one move. It's all got Red Bull logos all over it. They are sponsoring things that they that are impossible to do because they're attaching their brand to these crazy feats because they want you to think that every crazy athlete in the world is drinking Red Bull because wouldn't you like to be a crazy athlete too even if you don't have the cojones to jump off the side of a hot air balloon. They're attaching themselves to these things to create buzz. So if you're just the average person or your small business owner, whatever you are, I would say the first thing you got to do is start being you. I think the days of having to worry about getting canceled are kind of behind us right
Starting point is 00:12:21 now. Thank God. And so don't be afraid to have an opinion. Don't be afraid to share that opinion. Don't be, you can't have fear that half of your people are going to leave because you have an opinion. Cause I would rather have half of my audience really gravitate to who I am and really connect with me and lose half of my audience that doesn't,
Starting point is 00:12:47 then have a hundred percent of my audience lukewarm and have no real feeling about me because it just doesn't make any sense. So with that being said, man, I hope you guys have a great week. We got some unbelievable guests coming through the studio, coming up in the next little bit. It's crazy. Um, Chris Voss will be here next week. Super excited about that. Uh, we just had, um, Sean Mikey, who is incredible. His episode will drop on Tuesday. I this coming up Tuesday, just incredible guests continue to come through the podcast and a couple of things I'm starting to do a newsletter.
Starting point is 00:13:19 If you don't have time to listen to us all the time, I'm going to start doing a newsletter where I recap the best moments of the week, where I recap everything that's happened on the show, where I recap notes from stuff I'm reading, events that I'm going to, things that I think are cool. So if you wanna hit the newsletter, do me a favor, jump on, click the links in the bio of wherever you're watching this or you're listening to this
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Starting point is 00:13:57 Thanks for joining us for another episode of Escaping the Drift. Hope you got a bunch out of it or at least as much as I did out of it. Anyway, if you wanna learn more about the show, you can always go over to escaping the drift.com You can join our mailing list, but do me a favor if you wouldn't mind though of that five-star review Give us a share do something man. We're here for you. Hopefully you'll be here for us But anyway in the meantime, we will see you at the next episode

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